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Speaker 1: What's that at the foot of my bed. It's spooky,

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Speaker 1: Hey jooky, I'm really sure it's dead. It's coming this way.

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, I'm ghosted.

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Speaker 2: I'm nandaz.

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Speaker 1: Pe. Hey boo, it's me Ross and welcome to Ghosted

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Speaker 1: by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to people

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Speaker 1: that I like about the baron normal. I got a

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Speaker 1: real special one for you today, this one. This one

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Speaker 1: today goes out to Oh the ladies. I am joined

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Speaker 1: by Rachel Scanlon, the hilarious stand up comedian and ah, oh,

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Speaker 1: you'll just have to listen before we get to that,

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Speaker 1: I have it goes story from a listener. This one

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Speaker 1: comes from Lacey. Lacey Wrights, the family farmhouse I grew

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Speaker 1: up and was built by my great aunt and uncle

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Speaker 1: in nineteen sixteen. It is a lovely two story house

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Speaker 1: set out on flat open farmland in south central Kansas.

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Speaker 1: There is a stranded, lonely feeling out there, and it

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Speaker 1: lends itself to an eerie atmosphere I grew up in.

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Speaker 1: I've always had trouble sleeping. I would have vivid nightmares

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Speaker 1: or lay awake terrified of shadow figures lurking in the

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Speaker 1: was eleven years old, I turned on my closet light

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Speaker 1: to keep my imagination from seeing nightmarish figures in the shadows.

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Speaker 1: I lay in bed with my eyes closed, drifting in

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Speaker 1: and out of the hypnagogic state, imagining a small, red

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Speaker 1: eyed demon sitting outside my window throwing rocks at the glass.

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Speaker 1: I could actually hear something small pinging off the storm windows.

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Speaker 1: I was terrified and tried to lay as still as possible,

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Speaker 1: pretending to be asleep, hoping the dream demon would go

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Speaker 1: away if I could ignore it. As I lay there,

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Speaker 1: As the warmth began to wash over me, I felt

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Speaker 1: like someone was holding my left hand. I could feel

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Speaker 1: the pressure on my palm, though I could not see

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Speaker 1: flesh or bone. I opened my eyes a crack just

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Speaker 1: as I felt the left edge of the mattress compress.

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Speaker 1: I saw a bottom sized depression. Yes, if someone was

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Speaker 1: sitting next to me. I blinked tears out of my eyes,

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Speaker 1: but fell asleep before even understanding what I had just experienced.

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Speaker 1: I slept through the rest of the night without incident.

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Speaker 1: When I woke up the next day, I was convinced

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Speaker 1: I kept to myself until I was a freshman in college.

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Speaker 1: My mom, brother, and I were sitting in the living

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Speaker 1: my mom mentioned my great grandmother lived in my bedroom.

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Speaker 1: For some reason, I told her about my strange dream.

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Speaker 1: She told me that my great grandmother went missing from

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Speaker 1: our house in nineteen eighty four. One dark night during

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Speaker 1: summer harvest. The men were cutting the fields south of

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Speaker 1: any sight of my great grandmother. Over one hundred people,

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Speaker 1: throughout the night without finding any trace of her. It

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Speaker 1: would be five years before her body was found. A

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Speaker 1: neighbor was pheasant hunting when he spotted something pink in

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Speaker 1: the hedgerow. It was the skeletal remains of my great

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Speaker 1: grandmother laying in the embankment of a drainage ditch less

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Speaker 1: it was a David Politis Missing four one one style disappearance.

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Speaker 1: I don't know the reference. I am less sure what

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Speaker 1: the feeling of warmth that soothed my nightmares that night was.

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Speaker 1: Oh it was your great granny. Well shit, I am surprised.

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Speaker 1: Is uh the only time you had a spooky experience

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Speaker 1: like that? Thank you Lacey for sending that in. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it is time for my conversation with I'm gonna say

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Speaker 1: three time, maybe four time guests Rachel Scanlin and with

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Speaker 2: Rozzie there, get your morning juice.

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Speaker 1: It's my go go juice. Remember honey boo boo?

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Speaker 2: Of course, of course, I feel like she was on

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Speaker 2: that mountain dewshit. Also, I want you to know that

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Speaker 2: a lot of people when I first moved to La

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Speaker 2: thought I was honey boo boo. That's not true, Roz.

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Speaker 2: I was a cashier at a coffee place and multiple

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Speaker 2: people were like, are you honey boo boo asked me.

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Speaker 1: Did you say yeah? Of course, yeah, you have.

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Speaker 2: To yeah you oh yeha this is my go go juice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. You gotta give them a little something, right.

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Speaker 2: I want tourists to see like they're like go home

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Speaker 2: with a story.

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Speaker 1: Yeah we met a famous Britain.

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Speaker 2: Yeah we met Honeyboobu, who's now a barista.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I love her. We have the same agent.

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Speaker 1: WHOA I don't have an agent, but it feels like

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Speaker 1: that would have been right to say hello, Hi. I

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Speaker 1: am joined today by a dear friend, the most say

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Speaker 1: it dynamic comedian I know, the most famous comedian I know,

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Speaker 1: very good, never not working, but we got today in

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Speaker 1: the studio, Rachel Scanlon. Thank you, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: I'm so over here. Does everyone know that we're movie friends?

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Speaker 1: I would hope so, I would hope so. Yeah. The

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Speaker 1: two of us go to see movies together, scary ones,

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Speaker 1: although you did just see one without me.

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Speaker 2: It was a mistake and I regret it.

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Speaker 1: But we're also the busiest person in America.

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Speaker 2: As are you.

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Speaker 1: No, ros I'm not as busy as you. You're on

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Speaker 1: a flight every other day. Yeah, you do like forty

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Speaker 1: seven shows yeah per city. Yes, you work very hard,

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Speaker 1: as do you?

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Speaker 2: You and I were very busy. We're working, we're writing books.

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Speaker 2: We're staying in queer spaces in parts of the country

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Speaker 2: that you wouldn't think had queer spaces. What they do?

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Speaker 1: They are when we're there, exactly.

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Speaker 2: We bring together communities ros We're changing the world. You

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Speaker 2: and I.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we are. And just to think where we met.

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Speaker 1: We met at a comedy club and probably twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 2: Yep, truly, truly, people are doing this twenty sixteen throwback,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, take us back to twenty thirteen thirty. Well,

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Speaker 2: why did I look like honey boo boo oh?

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Speaker 1: Now that I think about it, listen, I look like

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Speaker 1: Mama June Bag. Sounds so Lisa Babes. You've had at

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Speaker 1: least I don't know, over a year since the last

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Speaker 2: Really, I feel like I'm always kind of here periodically.

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Speaker 2: It feels right for me. Yeah, it feels right for us.

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Speaker 1: But we've given you enough time to come up with

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Speaker 1: some pretty good stories.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot happening, a lot. Well, and I

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Speaker 2: didn't even tell your producers this, but just yesterday I

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Speaker 2: got a reading from a very famous astrologer named Channy.

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Speaker 1: Stop Yes, Channy Tatum, Yes, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and she is queer and it went crazy.

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Speaker 1: Really, Now, what do you think it is about the

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Speaker 1: LGBT that these people seem to have gifts? Right?

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Speaker 2: Well, I would say I think specifically in the sapphic world,

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Speaker 2: knowing your chart, knowing your big three, and subscribing to

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Speaker 2: kind of the mysticism that is astrology is kind of

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Speaker 2: a part of the dating process. Don't you think, like you're.

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Speaker 1: Not gonna dating. I forget that it's a dating thing.

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Speaker 2: Right, Like you want to match? Like my wife and I.

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Speaker 2: I'm a cancer. She's a scorpio written in the stars

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Speaker 2: to work.

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Speaker 1: Oh really? Yes? Oh I didn't know that.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but anyone else with a scorpio or even

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Speaker 2: like a Gemini policeman, that could be bad news.

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Speaker 1: I'm libra. What does that mean for you and I?

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Speaker 2: I think we're meant to be as well? Yeah? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Oh wow? Okay, So and you really take this stuff seriously?

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Speaker 2: Well, I take it as seriously as when it I mean,

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Speaker 2: it feels right to me. I don't know enough about it.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know my big three yesterday when I went

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Speaker 2: into this reading with this amazing astrologer who was incredible.

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Speaker 2: I had no idea, but she basically sat me down

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Speaker 2: and was like, your ruling house planet is Mercury, which

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Speaker 2: is like the most queerest and non binary planet that

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Speaker 2: there is. She looked at me and she was like,

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Speaker 2: she described basically that I as a comedian. She's like,

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Speaker 2: be received by the world. You verbalized to process and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, of course, of course, of course. And then

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Speaker 2: she's like, basically, your planet is two things at once

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Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, it's in the planet, like it's

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Speaker 2: the fluidity of Mercury.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm not gonna go against what the planet is.

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Speaker 1: I can't. That's their planets.

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Speaker 2: You can't go against. And this woman was, I, here's

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Speaker 2: what it is. Do I believe in astrology? Maybe? Do

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Speaker 2: I believe whatever? A beautiful woman tells me?

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, then you're in for a treat today. What

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Speaker 2: Channy?

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Speaker 1: What you call me?

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Speaker 2: Oh, Channy Tatum is really funny.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, my phone is on vibrate and it won't stop.

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Speaker 2: Who's calling you?

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Speaker 1: I think it's actually my man.

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Speaker 2: I'm missing my DMV callback because they're calling me back

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Speaker 2: at one thirty six.

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Speaker 1: Do you need to take that? That's why it's.

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Speaker 2: Gonna take twenty minutes. I can't. My life's over.

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Speaker 1: I wanted, man, do you have any ghost stories for us?

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Speaker 2: I don't have any ghost stories.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's fine, because I prepared an episode for us today.

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Speaker 1: And you know the way that I do this always,

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Speaker 1: I have a bunch of different topics. I do it

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Speaker 1: like like you know when they pull lottery and there's

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Speaker 1: like the little ball and it goes yes. Okay, of course,

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Speaker 1: I write down a bunch of different topics and I

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Speaker 2: And.

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Speaker 1: So it's all very random. Okay, doesn't matter, Okay, but

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Speaker 1: it just so happens that all of these are about less.

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Speaker 2: Incredible and that's that's fate though, that's a mercury.

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Speaker 1: So I do want to say, for the first time

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Speaker 1: in history, we are doing a lesbian episode.

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Speaker 2: Sh people going wild?

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Speaker 1: You know, I love is that lesbian that's like watching sports? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that video and she's like she's like she's like doing

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Speaker 1: love that.

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Speaker 2: I love that. I love that we're all lesbians here,

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Speaker 2: right or still aspiring?

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Speaker 1: You need to tell Channy to put a spell on

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Speaker 1: me or something, because it's not happening. I will, but

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Speaker 1: maybe this will all change, because if there's one thing

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Speaker 1: I would love to be, it's a lesbian ghost. And

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Speaker 1: you know I'm a huge ally. Yep.

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Speaker 2: I love lesbians, yep, and lesbians I may speak for

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Speaker 2: the entire community love you.

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Speaker 1: Uh? Is there like a term for like someone that

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Speaker 1: hangs out with lesbians? But isn't one?

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Speaker 2: You mean, like the teeth all my friends in college?

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Speaker 2: What do you call it? I don't think there's a

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Speaker 2: term yet. I mean there must be. There must be,

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Speaker 2: but it hasn't come across my desk yet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well I want to be I'm that.

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Speaker 2: I mean the equivalent of like, yeah, like a hag

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Speaker 2: for dykes.

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Speaker 2: I what did you say?

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Speaker 2: Like three? No? You guys got anything back?

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Speaker 1: Anyway? It doesn't matter, You're that whatever that is. That's okay.

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Speaker 1: So I have some stories, and honestly, I'm very proud

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, first.

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Speaker 1: Up, lesbian ghost. Did you know in Seattle there's a

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love sea. Of course it's Seattle,

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Speaker 1: Seattle is one of my favorite places in the world.

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Speaker 2: Me too.

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Speaker 1: Where do you perform when you do that?

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Speaker 2: The Neptune Theater often? Oh yeah, yes, fancy.

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Speaker 1: So let me tell you a little bit about Alice b.

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Speaker 2: Tocless, Alice be Tokeless.

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Speaker 1: Alice be Token. This is from Seattle terrors dot com.

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Speaker 1: It is said that Alice Btokeless can be seen in

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Speaker 2: Alice B. Tribban We like it.

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Speaker 1: Alice be Tokeless is people see her in the Sorrento

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Speaker 1: Not only that, this is pretty fun fact about her,

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Speaker 1: She was studying music. Her family would reside close to

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Speaker 1: She actually died in Paris. Anytime this kind of thing happens,

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Speaker 2: That the ghost because because they died so far away?

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Speaker 1: And to spend eternity in Seattle, that's not bad.

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Speaker 2: That's not bad.

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Speaker 1: So Yeah, she was a marijuana activist, and she is

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Speaker 1: it is Alice Betoken?

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Speaker 2: Alice Betoken?

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Speaker 1: It is unlikely that she ever what Seattle terrors it says.

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Speaker 1: It is unlikely that she ever walked the halls of

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Speaker 2: She's alive, hasn't even been there in her living life.

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Speaker 1: However, with that being said, she still has a strong

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Speaker 1: They hosted a dinner in twenty eighteen in her honor. Oh,

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Speaker 1: they would also use recipes that were in her cookbook

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Speaker 2: Here's what I'll say, as somebody who's never been to

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Speaker 1: The grounds, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: That is interesting, don't you think, like where's a place

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Speaker 1: Little as Fair?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: That'd be fun? Yeah? Yeah, I guess like there is

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Speaker 1: that kind of magical belief of like I'm I'm dead now,

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Speaker 2: Or where your spirit is being called to.

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Speaker 1: That could be maybe somebody did a seance trying to

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Speaker 2: Best right, She's like, I like.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to stay here. So she was partner of

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Speaker 1: Gertrude Stone, and while Alice was an art lover, she

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Speaker 2: So she was in proximity.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she wasn't far away. I guess. People believe that

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Speaker 1: it is said that you can hear a piano playing

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Speaker 2: Not booked, she's hearing come too lo Wind.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. You know I love Melissa athreve God,

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Speaker 1: she gains it, you know what I mean. No, she

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Speaker 2: Here's faint, faint sounds of Melissa Ethrige outside the window.

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Speaker 1: Okay, here's another one I've been wanting to talk about

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Speaker 1: for a long time. It's the Lady's of Lngo.

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Speaker 2: Limb, the la the later whoa of Lego land, the

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Speaker 2: ladies of Lango Lamb. Wow, it feels like lingus when

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Speaker 1: The Larry.

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Speaker 2: I love that you're rolling your l's the ladies.

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Speaker 1: It's a weird word, but it's the ladies of Lengo

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Speaker 1: Rolled Lango renn. Whoa there very ladies of Lango ren Whoa.

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Speaker 1: Can you show us a picture of the ladies of

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Speaker 1: Lego Lamb please?

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Speaker 2: Ros, those are the ladies of these ladies? If these

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Speaker 2: ladies ain't my fashion sense. I feel like I'm looking

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Speaker 2: at my long last twins. Doesn't that look like me?

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Speaker 2: Curly short hair? And then on the left of the right, well,

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Speaker 2: first of all, but that was on the left is

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Speaker 2: curly hair, and then a little too formal dapperware.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she does not look Neither of them look very happy.

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Speaker 1: But and you're that cat and they have a cat. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's me. They they were in love, they were real

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Speaker 1: for but I love that now? Is that common?

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Speaker 2: It's people don't fetishize it as much, but it happens, right,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, It's out there. Of course,

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Speaker 1: Now since there's like lipstick lesbians. What do they call that?

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Speaker 2: Is that? Chap? Oh? These are? I mean I would

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Speaker 2: These are two old school, classic dapper butches. Yeah, for sure,

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Speaker 1: No, that really is God. We need a lesbian president

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Speaker 1: so bad.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying.

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Speaker 1: Please. So they lived in a famous house together the

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Speaker 1: there's an article that was written by Ken Summers. Shout

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Speaker 1: out to Ken Summers, who he he wrote. He wrote

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Speaker 1: and he actually was on this podcast a number of

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Speaker 1: I don't know where it is. I was trying to

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Speaker 2: Where's the book?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. So if anyone out there stole my

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Speaker 1: Queer Hauntings by Ken Summer's book, I will find you.

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Speaker 1: I don't know where it is disappeared. But luckily there

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Speaker 1: for which Them Them Love Them, a great website that

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Speaker 2: The lady the limb, Yeah, and their lovers, right, you're saying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, can't you just feel the love Palpitato.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I can't see where their hands are, but

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Speaker 1: Okay. So these two, yes, they would wear men's.

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Speaker 2: Fashion, incredible, it so hot.

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Speaker 1: This is in Ireland and we're talking about Sarah Barah

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Speaker 1: Ponsimbe and Eleanor Butler.

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Speaker 2: Top about I'm Marnin Doya.

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Speaker 1: Sarah and Eleanor.

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Speaker 2: I mean, or their couple name.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. Looking at this picture, I would

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Speaker 2: Right, you would see. I mean, they're definitely could pick

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Speaker 2: I feel like this is like a classic. I mean,

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Speaker 2: being like it's it's Eleanor. It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with that. I love that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's a tales all. It's Mother Nature's trick

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Speaker 1: But there's something so powerful about it. I just love it.

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Speaker 1: Of course I love it. It's me. So the two

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Speaker 1: seventeen seventy eighth.

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Speaker 2: Pre pride, pride, Oh.

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Speaker 1: My god, may before pride, honey. They didn't the L

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Speaker 2: Which that's nice.

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Speaker 1: Now are you and your wife respected by the townsfolk

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Speaker 2: Hmmm, here's what I hate to admit. There is a

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Speaker 2: stronger I know them. You're just stronger, hotter, more powerful

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Speaker 2: I watch her hold court like they do Easter egg

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Speaker 2: women with husbands like ditch their husbands at like block

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00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 2: parties to go like get close to her. She draws

439
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 2: them in and she's got this like very cool short haircut,

440
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 2: and she doesn't really give a shit, you know what

441
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 2: I mean. Like her Bach energy is way more calm, collected, powerful.

442
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 2: My Boach energy is a lot more like are there here?

443
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 2: Like people don't respond to me the same way they

444
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 2: respond to her, And she's directly across the street.

445
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 1: So sorry than you. Yeah, well I don't think that

446
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:03,959
Speaker 1: there was that case.

447
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 2: Well they're sounding well, yeah, Eleanor and Sarah.

448
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: I think they moved in first. They were they were

449
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: definitely your neighbor in this situation.

450
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 2: Ros, I have to tell you, I found out the

451
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 2: place that I just moved into, there were two lesbians

452
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 2: living there together for fifteen years. They were best friends.

453
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 2: They lived in that house. One of them past were

454
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 2: a couple. They were a couple.

455
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: They were a couple of friends.

456
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 2: Some people in the neighborhood are like, they were best friends,

457
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 2: and then some people neighborhod are like they were lovers

458
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 2: and they lived there for fifteen years and they used

459
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: to do like house parties. They met at Elvis's party,

460
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 2: and they fell in love, and they lived together in

461
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 2: the place I live in right now. They die, one

462
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 2: did lesbian and the other one is still living. And

463
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 2: sometimes my neighbors would be like, get her, I get

464
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 2: their mail, I get their mail. The two women they

465
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 2: lived together, and I'm too scared.

466
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: You don't want to lesbian ghost?

467
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 2: No, I don't, can't. I can't handle that. I can't

468
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 2: even handle a real lesbian across the street. Is that

469
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 2: crazy you want to tell you that?

470
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: No? I really am not happy about this. But okay,

471
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: So they were welcomed in the church locally, and they

472
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: routinely had opportunities to host the rich and famous in

473
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: their stately home. Right, they were buried together in the

474
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: church cemetery, and they're legs together.

475
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 2: It was a really long box, powerful.

476
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: Legs open wrapped around each.

477
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 2: Other's open cast it casket. Legs. Really well respected in

478
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 2: the church.

479
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: Their home has become a museum. Okay, So anyway, let's

480
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: get to the ghost part. So the cast of the

481
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: British paranormal reality series Most Haunted filmed an episode at

482
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: this house in two thousand and eight. They did not

483
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: shy away from mentioning the couple's relationship great the standard

484
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: paranormal fare of misty forms. I used to do shows

485
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: with her. I think that's crazy. Misty forms, lights, cold spots,

486
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: and unexplained wrapping like my name is Ella nor I'm

487
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: here to say so, you know, tapping that's been long

488
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 1: documented by visitors, often centered on the Oak Room with

489
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: its exquisite wood carvings. Of course, Eleanor and Sarah's presence

490
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: has unnerved some guests, yet they are mostly described as

491
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: having an overwhelmingly welcoming and inviting feel. Encounters are commonly

492
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: reported around Christmas, when the ladies of Llangoline would surround

493
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: themselves with family and friends, both old and new.

494
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 2: WHOA wow, I liked that they were so liked in

495
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 2: this town. Yeah, like these Lesbos.

496
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: Were so seventeen hundreds right, yeah, oh I love that.

497
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about another one now, this one

498
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: up for debate. Okay, if she was a lesbian or not?

499
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: All right, Actually, I'll let you borrow my gavel and

500
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: if you think that she was a lesbian, you are

501
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: free to use that thing.

502
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: Okay, Lizzie Borden, have you looked into this. I've seen

503
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 2: some movies.

504
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, that's one way to see your former boss.

505
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: Oh really, Kristen Stewart, that's right, she did that movie.

506
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: It was pretty hot.

507
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 2: It was I know, I think they fucked in a barn, right,

508
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 2: I remember them.

509
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: I remember a bar.

510
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean at that time, Barnes were kind of

511
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: made for Yeah. I remember there being violin a pile

512
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 2: of hay. Yeah, some prolonged eye contact.

513
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: So Lizzie Borden, do you know much about her?

514
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 2: I mean I I saw the movie. That's all I know.

515
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: And that's the thing. This rumor of her being a

516
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: lesbian has really caught on over the years. So her

517
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: Bed and Breakfast, which is in Fall River, Massachusetts. That place, yeah,

518
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: you can go, you can go, rent it, you can go.

519
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a bed and breakfast. It's still and

520
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: it is where her parents were murdered. Now, the thing is,

521
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:29,239
Speaker 1: do we know who murdered her parents? Technically no, it

522
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: was never solved.

523
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 2: Would you stay there?

524
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: I would go ghost hunt there. I'm not going to

525
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: sleep there. I can't do eighteen hundreds the murder. No,

526
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: I don't like that. So this is an article by

527
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: Courtney Hardwick in magazine Dot C a Canadian. Okay, So,

528
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: in eighteen ninety two, she Lidsey Borden was accused of

529
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: killing her stepmother Abbey and her father Andrew. This was

530
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: the true rile of this century, honey, and she was

531
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: found not guilty, still technically unsolved. She was thirty two

532
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: when she was first arrested. She had no desire to marry,

533
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: which was pretty unusual. Now, there's a novel that came

534
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: out in nineteen eighty four called Lizzie by Ed McBain,

535
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: and that was the first time that it was floated

536
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: around that maybe she wasn't murdering people, but she was murdering.

537
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 2: That pussy Lezzie Part two.

538
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: That was the first time that people had talked about this.

539
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: The book claimed that it's possible she had an affair

540
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: with the family's made Bridget Sullivan very hot. Bridget is

541
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: a hot.

542
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: Name, you think, so Bridget?

543
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: Have you ever remember Bridget? That was not a ten

544
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: out a time.

545
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: I mean, here's the thing, I can't remember the last

546
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 2: time I saw a Bridget. I'm sure I would be

547
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 2: attracted to her basis.

548
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: The girls next door. She's sat right there, she has

549
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: sat right there.

550
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: Of course she sat here. Oh yes, she has I

551
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 2: eat the chair.

552
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:19,239
Speaker 1: So the theory is that the parents found out that

553
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: she was that she was a thirty two year old

554
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: having an affair with the family's maid. Yeah, and that's

555
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: why she killed them. That's a theory that some people have.

556
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: Now there was no mention of her sexuality in any

557
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: of the trial, or there's really no like hard evidence

558
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: and now okay, no, from what I from what I'm

559
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: reading here. After she was acquitted, Lizzie and her older

560
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: sister Emma, used their inheritance to buy a new house

561
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: in a different part of town. They were generally reclusive,

562
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: but Lizzie made friends with a stage actress named Nance O'Neil.

563
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 2: Come on, come on Nance.

564
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: According to news reports, Emma did not approve the sister

565
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: did not approve of the relationship, and eventually moved out.

566
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: Rumors that Lizzie and Nance had a sexual relationship swirled.

567
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: Of course, Now here's the thing. Nance was an out lesbian.

568
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: Oh very cool.

569
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: So I mean the fact that it's like she's like

570
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: to her sister, like, hey, just so you know, my

571
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: lesbian friend is moving in with me and we're gonna

572
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time together just the two of

573
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: us feels pretty I mean, at the very least she's

574
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: an ally.

575
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: Right well, and I think it's gay by association. But

576
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 2: also I mean the writing's kind of on the wall

577
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: in blood.

578
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,719
Speaker 1: In blood, it is still based on rumor and conjecture

579
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: that the two of them may have possibly had a relationship,

580
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: but it's certainly added to the theory. Right. The Lizzie

581
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: Borden House m hmm, super duper well known in the

582
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: haunted community. People are going to this place all the time.

583
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: They do tours, fun, they do Victorian murder mystery, you

584
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: know things, and you could stay the night and you

585
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: can have your bed and breakfast and there's this. The

586
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: website is actually really well done because I look at

587
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: a lot of haunted websites, yes, and this is a

588
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: place that's like, yes, or the place where where that

589
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: Lizzie boredom come on in, which I think is great.

590
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: They embrace it. But yeah, very mysterious. Oh. The Morse

591
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: Room is where they say a lot of the stuff happens,

592
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: which is the murder room. This is where Abby was

593
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: found murdered in the morning of August fourth, eighteen ninety two.

594
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: That's a room. You can just you can just book that.

595
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: There's also the Lizzie and Emma Suite, the Andrew and

596
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: be Sweet, the Bridget Sullivans Sweet, the Andrew Jennings. Who's

597
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: Andrew Jennings. Oh that was her defense lawyer. He had

598
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: his own room.

599
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: Oh shit, that's suspicious to me.

600
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: But either way, very haunted, very haunted. So do you

601
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: think that she's I think so. I'm gonna say she

602
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: was a strong ally. I think this.

603
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 2: If you're why would of that age that time to

604
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 2: be like, I just don't want to be married?

605
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: Okay, had you met men?

606
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 2: Not really?

607
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: Okay, this one is great. Okay, this one needs to

608
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 1: be talked about. Lesbians thirty minutes from here abducted by

609
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: aliens Oh shit, yep, Oh my god in nineteen fifty three.

610
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: Whoa recent ish compared to the seventeen hundreds.

611
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, compared to the seventeen hundre is. But also we're

612
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: a young country.

613
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 2: Here, Yeah, we're at so close Valley.

614
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: Honga, Tonga.

615
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 2: Uh huh, Oh my god.

616
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: There's a great article on LAist you know LAist dot

617
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: com of course, that talks about like this is a

618
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: story that none enough people know about it.

619
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 2: Right, I haven't heard about lesbian's in the fifties being

620
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: an abduct Actually, the.

621
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: First time I think I ever heard of it was

622
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 1: Demie Vados short lived UFO show. Oh, they like briefly

623
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 1: talked about this because there's a book written about it.

624
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: But I found this story on LAist dot com. It

625
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: was written in twenty twenty four by Robert Goova, and

626
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: it says this little known alien abduction case happened in

627
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: LA's backyard Your Guide to the UFO Hotbed in Big

628
00:36:54,600 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: Tahunga Canyon long title so In an isolated cat two

629
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: women were terrified by an experience they had beginning around

630
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 1: two am on March twenty second, nineteen fifty three. According

631
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: to the women, bright lights and a deathly stillness were

632
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: followed by an alien abduction in which one of them

633
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: said they were taken on board a UFO by slender

634
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: entities with elongated mask like faces. Both women's accounts and

635
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: several others are described in detail in the book That

636
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: Took Hanga Canyon Contacts by Anne Droffel and d Scott Rogo.

637
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: To protect them from backlash, the pseudonyms Sarah Shaw and

638
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: Jan Pussy Jan Whitley. To conceal their identities, they changed

639
00:37:49,239 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: their name to Jan Beatty Beaver, Jan Pussy now Jan

640
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: Whitley were they're fake names in the book which was published,

641
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: and it published in nineteen eighty. So Shaw and Whitley

642
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: would undergo regressive hypnosis oh shit in order to try

643
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: and pull recollections of the incident from their memory. Shaw

644
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: had her hypnosis led by doctor Martin Reisner, who founded

645
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: the LAPD Behavioral Sciences Services in nineteen sixty eight.

646
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 2: Okay.

647
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: In a second hypnosis session with a different doctor by

648
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: the name of Bill McCall, Shaw recalled her abduction experience

649
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty three. This is what Shaw said. It

650
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: started to float. It started to float. I'm starting to

651
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: float towards it. This she's recollecting. I'm starting to float

652
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: towards it. And then the doctor says, what do you

653
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 1: mean you're starting to float towards it? And she says, well,

654
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: they're walking with me, but my feet aren't on the ground.

655
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: And then the doctor says, they were on the ground

656
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: when you came out of the house. How come they're

657
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 1: not on the ground now. And then she says, well,

658
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: there's a beam of light it's like it's like it's

659
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: almost like a and then the doctor says, now you

660
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: see a beam of light. And then she says, I'm

661
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: on the beam of light. That's an excerpt from the

662
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: book from her hypnosusception.

663
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 2: I felt like I was there.

664
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: She would go on to recall being examined aboard the

665
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: spaceship by entities with some type of scanner. She said

666
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: that they imparted to her a cure for Cancer's good,

667
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: that cure. All the women who came forward with their

668
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 1: stories from this incident around this area were part of

669
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: the LGBTQ community, and most, if not all, had some

670
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: connection to Whitley, the one lady. That's pretty standard. That's standard.

671
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: They all knew each other.

672
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 2: Now they're intertwined.

673
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: Yep, there's a tree. While Shaw and Whitley's initial encounter

674
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: took place in the fifties, it wasn't until the seventies

675
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: that they brought their story to this author. So that's

676
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: something that's.

677
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: Incredible to lesbians being abducted. I like that for honestly

678
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 2: research purposes. I feel like research here on earth is

679
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 2: always done on like straight men. Let's have some lesbians

680
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 2: scan some more lesbians.

681
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: I'm happy that we don't hear about lesbians getting taken

682
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: up there too much, because I think that the aliens

683
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: would be like these ones are superior. Yes, we're keeping them.

684
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 2: Yeah ours now ours, ours keepsies. Yeah, no back sias

685
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 2: for the lesbians.

686
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm afraid of. Right.

687
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 2: There is something to be said for superior being being

688
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 2: the lesbians on Earth.

689
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: Because otherwise it's typically just some dumb dumb man.

690
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 2: Right, they took me up, they probed, Hey, they probed me.

691
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, they stock the.

692
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 2: Memo also homophobic. They don't even want to know. If

693
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 2: I sucked up a street man, it's spin them back out,

694
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 2: you suck up a lesbian. Let's learn, Let's learn what's

695
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: going on here on Earth.

696
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,919
Speaker 1: So just one more thing, it's a honorable mention. Since

697
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: we're kind of going through all the different topics of

698
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 1: the paranormal. One of the hosts of Finding Bigfoot the lesbian,

699
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: open lesbian Renee Hollins. And she's fierce, and she's very skeptical,

700
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: and she's she comes at it from like a scientist's standpoint,

701
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: and that's.

702
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 2: Like her career lesbian and stem I.

703
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 1: Think so honestly, she could be. She is a research biologist, conservationist, author,

704
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: and speaker. Yeah, and I just I love that representation.

705
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: It's nice to have. We need more queer researchers. Come on,

706
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 2: she's so pretty little hot she is.

707
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's pretty hot.

708
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 2: Geez.

709
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: So if that can't get Bigfoot out, I don't know.

710
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: I don't know Bigfoot's real, right, Okay, can I show

711
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: you some haunted dolls?

712
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 2: Please do?

713
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: It's time for the dolls are living? Okay, So I

714
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: go to Ebrey. Yeah, I find out haunted dolls. Of

715
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: course this is always also.

716
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 2: Random, sure, completely random, just sucked up.

717
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 1: I did find a two for one deal. Okay, there's

718
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: two dolls conjoined into one. Oh wow, and for thirty

719
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 1: seven dollars and thirty five cents, you could go home

720
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: today with Harper and Andy Showeth Harper and Andy. Jiha. Okay,

721
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 1: so that's one of them. Okay, Now here's the thing.

722
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: It's kind of a situation. Uh huh. Can you show

723
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: us the situation because they're I love now scroll down?

724
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: Yoh oh oh oh.

725
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: So these two were buried like the ladies.

726
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are our two ladies. There they rest happily.

727
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: It's one of these situations. If you're only listening, if

728
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: you're if you could to Instagram and go to the

729
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: story that says Dolls twenty twenty six, you'll see you'll

730
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: see what I'm talking about. But it's one of these

731
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 1: things where it's like a doll with a dress sound,

732
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: and then if you lift the dress, Oh, there's a

733
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: lady under there, and wow, they're they're kind of.

734
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 2: Like they're joined at the pelvis.

735
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: You'd think at the pelvis. Yeah, right, how do they go?

736
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 2: Body? It can't be it can't be good, it can't

737
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 2: be pretty pretty.

738
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. So let's keep in mind that

739
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about the ghosts that are inside

740
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: of this doll. Yeah, or dolls, I don't really know.

741
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: I mean that one on the bottom, I mean not

742
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 2: to say that that one is a bottom, but just

743
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: physically is on the bottom looks more like a ghost.

744
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 2: I know the ghost is within.

745
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well there's actually two spirits. Oh yes, there's two

746
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: spirits that have inhabited this doll that's currently on sale

747
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 1: for thirty seven dollars and thirty five cents a deal.

748
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 1: Here's the bio that the seller wrote down. God, it's

749
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: kind of a long one. Okay, So Harper was twenty

750
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: seven and Andy were thirty was thirty two. They were

751
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: in a same sex relationship for four years up until

752
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five.

753
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 2: Wow.

754
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: Harper worked at an animal shelter and Andy was a

755
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: manager at a fast food restaurant. Okay, and you know

756
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: she ran the Arby's.

757
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: Like a fucking naval battleship exactly.

758
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: They met by chance when Andy came to the shelter

759
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: in search of a rescue dog. It was a slow

760
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: day and Harper had lots of time to spend showing

761
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: Andy all of the dogs and puppies that were up

762
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: for adoption. They hit it off right away. Okay, blah

763
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: blah blah. Andy chose a German shepherd.

764
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: Cute.

765
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 1: They would listen to music together, have cocktails, and watch

766
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: their dogs play. Already know where this is going? Right?

767
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: Oh my god. As Andy leaned into kiss Harper for

768
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: the first time, she felt a little conflicted. This is

769
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: like the next like heated rivalry.

770
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 2: Ye.

771
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: Flash forward four years to August of nineteen eighty five.

772
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: There's still a happy couple. They were headed home from

773
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: an Atlantis Morisset concert. They were driving down the interstate.

774
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 1: A semi truck driver who had been awake for far

775
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 1: too many miles fell asleep. He drifted across the lanes

776
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: and jerked awake to the sound of horns blaring. Harper

777
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: and Andy were blessedly lifted from their bodies an instant

778
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: before impact. Hand in hand, they stood.

779
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 2: I love that they were lifted before impact.

780
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: Their spirits left.

781
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 2: Before they died. I thought you would die, and then

782
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 2: the spirits left.

783
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: I know, but I wonder if there's a thing where

784
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: it's like your soul knows, like time to just get

785
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: out of here. You don't want to see this part.

786
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: I like thinking that that's how it goes. So they

787
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: stood at the precipice of the brilliant bright light. Harper

788
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: could see her beloved childhood dog, Wookie. Now, how did

789
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 1: they get all this information? This is a long she bored.

790
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: More So, basically, Harber and Andy found this strange doll.

791
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: They laughed as they possessed it together, happy with the

792
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: close quarters of the two of the dolls. You know,

793
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: they joked that it was the first time Andy had

794
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: ever worn a dress. Andy is the open eyed doll.

795
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: Carper's eyes are closed. I see now in this realm.

796
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: They have many things that they want to do. They

797
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 1: make vision boards. Probably they have goals here. They are

798
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: excited to find a friend or family. They would prefer

799
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: LGBTQ adoption, but it's not a deal breaker for them.

800
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: They see no color, no age, no gender. They probably

801
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: have that sign in their front yard except all of everybody.

802
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: So they are spiritual advisors, able to give life advice

803
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: from their spectacular vantage point. They're very positive. They're both

804
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 1: animal lovers. Oh my god, what it says. They love

805
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: to laugh and joke. Some of their jokes are on

806
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: the dirty side. Ask them about quote sissoring into eternity.

807
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: I mean, if you want a good laugh.

808
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 2: Of course, of course I do.

809
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: Communicate with pendulum dowsing rods and Ouigi. I haven't tried

810
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: a spirit box, but I bet they are a riot.

811
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: I have heard girls laughing and seeing a double orb

812
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: with an almost rainbow iridescence like a soap bubble in

813
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: the light.

814
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 2: I feel like you do a Ouiji board on these

815
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 2: two freaks, and they just go six nine six nine

816
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 2: six nine six nine and gigle in themselves.

817
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, cracking each other up over there. No

818
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: negative attachments as always, background dolls and photoprops are not included.

819
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: Don't even ask.

820
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: So if you want that flannel, that's mine and I do,

821
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: and I was gonna ask.

822
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 2: I was about to ask about that.

823
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean this is the They sound like

824
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: a who.

825
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 2: I mean, they're definitely like right up our alley, Like

826
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 2: if we and I were going to get a doll.

827
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 2: I feel like this would be the one scissoring into

828
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 2: infinity internity eternity. Uh huh the name of my next hour?

829
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: That would be great. Yes, Can I believe some ghost voiceless? Please?

830
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: It's time for EVP or ev pase. Okay, So I

831
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: go to YouTube, I find ghost voices and people post.

832
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: I want you to tell me what you hear, and

833
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: then I'll give you an ABC D option. Okay, So

834
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: this first one we've actually had before on the show.

835
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: But I liked it and I want it. She got

836
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: the call back. This was posted by Jason seven to

837
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: Dash one Dash I ate s it was recorded at

838
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: a place called Levin's Hall. I believe this is British.

839
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 1: What is this ghost saying? Rachel Scanlon? Okay, it definitely

840
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: sounds like either a seagull and distress or it kind

841
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: of sounds like remember like recorders, like those flutes, Yeah,

842
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: those little flute things. Yeah, yeah, sounded like that.

843
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:26,959
Speaker 2: Ah ah, yes, much clearer that time.

844
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: Do you have any guesses?

845
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 2: I think it's like I am not here, as he

846
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 2: gets a little weird at the end.

847
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: Well, did Jason sevent to dash I eight s think

848
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 1: that it was a ah, nice to meet a lesbian? B? Wait, stop,

849
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: I love you? C Hey, Jane, I called to you?

850
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: Or D scissoring for it's one of those Okay, I.

851
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 2: Want to say D, but I think it is C

852
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 2: like when you said that I'm.

853
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: Here, Jane, I called to you.

854
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

855
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: They believe that it was a it's nice to meet

856
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: a lesbian.

857
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, it's nice to me a lesbian. I'm

858
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 2: always saying that I'm You're always saying I.

859
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: Always say that. Okay. Here is one more. This is

860
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 1: from Creatures of the Night paranormal and it was taken

861
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: at the Losey Bourdon House. Hello, what is this one saying?

862
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 2: Dancing? Sing?

863
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: Yeah? Maybe? Well did they think it was a I

864
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: want seafood, B I don't see you see I won't

865
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: sleep here? Or D that's gay? If you have me,

866
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 1: kid's one of those.

867
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 2: That's gay?

868
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,439
Speaker 1: Do they believe it is? See, I won't sleep here.

869
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: I won't sleep here.

870
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 2: I won't sleep here.

871
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that one ghost, I won't sleep

872
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Speaker 1: there either. Well, we're pretty much done. Oh sh and

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Speaker 1: we've heard all your beliefs. That's usually how we end this. Okay.

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Speaker 1: The one question that I've added recently that is my

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Speaker 1: new favorite conspiracy theories. Are there fun conspiracy theories?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: That you subscribe to? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I don't know if there? What are some crazy ones?

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Speaker 1: I mean, have you ever heard the one about Garth Brooks? No? Now,

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00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: I do know that he's aware of this theory and

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Speaker 1: does not like it. Okay, I believe he's gotten litigious

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00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 1: about it. Okay, but not to me because I am

883
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Speaker 1: just reporting the news. Okay, this that this has been

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Speaker 1: a theory. It's wild. Basically, I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 1: have all the details pulled up, but essentially what the

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Speaker 1: theory is is that every place that he has toured,

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Speaker 1: a mysterious unsolved murder has happened in every single city.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that would be crazy.

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00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,919
Speaker 1: And there's people that have gone through Like we're talking

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Speaker 1: the nineties, like every single city.

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Speaker 2: I heard that, and I do kind of believe that

892
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 2: Katie Perry's robot. Have you heard that? No? Yeah, I

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00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 2: fell down that rabbit hole on TikTok like a year ago.

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Speaker 1: That's the first.

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Speaker 2: The proof is her glitching out on stage multiple times.

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Speaker 2: And I've seen the videos and this is like at

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Speaker 2: first you're like, that's crazy, and then you watch ten

898
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 2: more videos and you're like, I kind of think it's true. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because she basically is on stage having like her eye

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Speaker 2: and then it blinks and then she kind of goes

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Speaker 2: like you know, firework.

902
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: But like those lights can be crazy.

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Speaker 2: But it looked exactly like a robot. It looked robotic,

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Speaker 2: like in a like a robot. And then for I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm still kind of like I'm on the fence if

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Speaker 2: she's human a robot.

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Speaker 1: No, that's fine. Yeah, there are not to talk about

908
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: lesbians this whole time, but well there are lesbian conspiracy

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Speaker 1: theories like pop stars that.

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I mean I'm a galer truther at times.

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00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, Taylor's Lift.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well with Diana Agron as well, and like Diana Agron,

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Speaker 2: she's she plays Quinn for Bray and Glee, the blonde.

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Speaker 1: I don't know any other words. You just used.

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Speaker 2: Glee, are you not? You didn't watch glow?

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Speaker 1: Uh the lead blonde?

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Speaker 2: Okay, her name is Diana Agron and they were all Agron.

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Speaker 2: This could be my accident.

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Speaker 1: She really does zach egg mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So people, I know I've been deep into the

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Speaker 2: Taylor Swift like gay rabbit hole as well part of

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Speaker 2: the job.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever heard Dolly?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: I had conspiracy.

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Speaker 2: That was one that I didn't hear about until I

927
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 2: started touring more and people would pull me aside and

928
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,479
Speaker 2: be like, Dolly Parton's a lesbian and I didn't. I'd

929
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 2: never heard it until in real life, which is fun

930
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Speaker 2: to hear her. I love conspiracy theories that you see,

931
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Speaker 2: like obviously we see them on our phones a lot,

932
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 2: but I love queer people in real life being like

933
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 2: have you heard this?

934
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: Exciting? And I've got a PowerPoint.

935
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 2: Yes, I got a lot of things like sit down,

936
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 2: I got a lot of shit about Dolly. I need

937
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 2: to tell you about.

938
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Speaker 1: You're on to cancel your play?

939
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you wouter sit down for a while. You better

940
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Speaker 2: scissor me intil eternity until I tell you about this.

941
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, well I guess that's it. Wow.

942
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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me Roz.

943
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: I'm so happy you did this. I love to getting

944
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: to see you anytime me too.

945
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me back, and let's go see a

946
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 2: movie soon.

947
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 1: Please tell people where to find you and stuff.

948
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 2: Well, I'm at Rachel Scanling Comedy. I'm on tour right now.

949
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 2: I've just dropped like ten more cities. I'm going to

950
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 2: be doing my hour in Los Angeles in March. You

951
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 2: can get tickets at Rachel Scanlincomedy dot com.

952
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: Where Where what where are you doing in LA.

953
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 2: At the main room of the Improv And then I

954
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 2: got five shows in Seattle coming up as well, which

955
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 2: they're gonna be really really fun. So come get at

956
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:45,959
Speaker 2: the Neptune Theater at this other one, the Emerald City

957
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 2: one short day. And I have a podcast that comes

958
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 2: out weekly called Two Dikes and a Mic. I host

959
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 2: it with Mackenzie Goodwin. If you want to listen to that,

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00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 2: it's at Two Dikes and a Mic. But come see

961
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 2: me do a live show because that's the best.

962
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yay. Well you are my favorite Lydia.

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00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 2: Thank you, You're my favorite lad Well.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Rachel Scanlan. Hey, just another reminder.

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Speaker 1: You could see me in Los Angeles on Cinco de Mayo.

966
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: That's the fifth of May. If you don't speak Espanol.

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00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: I will be at the Troubadour in West Hollywood doing

968
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Speaker 1: a stand up show with some friends. Oh, who's going

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00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: to join me? Mystery? All right? I love you all,

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Speaker 1: both living and dead. But if I didn't ask you

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Speaker 1: to haunt me, don't haunt me came back. This has

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Speaker 1: been an exactly right production. Want to share your paranormal

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Speaker 1: experience on the podcast. I read stories out loud and

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Speaker 1: sometimes I'll even call you, so email me at ghosted

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Speaker 1: by Raz at gmail dot com. You can send a

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Speaker 1: DM or voice message to the show's instagram at ghosted

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Speaker 1: follow me Roz on Instagram at roz Hernandez and on

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Speaker 1: is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer is the alarming

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Speaker 1: Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and sound designed by

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Speaker 1: Patrick Kottner. My theme music is by the spine chilling

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Speaker 1: Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky Vanessa Lilac. Photography

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Speaker 1: by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the Chilling

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