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Speaker 1: Duel more ways to win. Hi, everybody, Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Friday Morning Podcast. We have Bruce Feldman to talk about

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Speaker 1: the clown show that is college football right now, no

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Speaker 1: centralized voice and this is what happens in a five

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Speaker 1: billion dollars annual business. Chad Millman and I have our

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Speaker 1: official best over unders. I've bet all of them. I

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Speaker 1: love all of them. Let's first address the Russell Westbrook

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Speaker 1: to the Lakers for KCP, Kyle Kuzma, Montrez Harold and

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Speaker 1: a draft pick. Initially, you know I'm not a huge

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Speaker 1: Westbrook fan. I've said this that Cam Newton's game is

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Speaker 1: an NFL quarterback, in Westbrook's game as an NBA player,

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Speaker 1: the game has moved away from them. In the NFL

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Speaker 1: right now, it's about efficiency, that's not Cam. In the NBA,

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Speaker 1: it's about shooting that's not Westbrook. And he would have

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Speaker 1: that's not really his strength. He's not a shotmaker, He's

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Speaker 1: a playmaker. But I thought a lot about this. Is

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Speaker 1: Lebron James thinking, because you know you okayd this listen.

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Speaker 1: I know Westbrook. We work out at UCLA. Westbrook, by

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Speaker 1: the way, has a house about three miles from Lebron.

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Speaker 1: They're friends, they respect each other. Is Lebron saying number one,

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Speaker 1: nobody plays harder than Russell Westbrook and I have got

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Speaker 1: to get Regardless of his inconsistency. I mean, Westbrook's not

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Speaker 1: even the best version of Westbrook anymore, but he plays

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Speaker 1: absolutely is completely, utterly committed to basketball. He's often said,

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Speaker 1: my best friends the ball. From a psychological standpoint, do

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Speaker 1: you bring Westbrook in a D watches his commitment, he

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Speaker 1: sees Lebron's commitment, and there's a feeling like, hey, I

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Speaker 1: gotta get my shit together. Okay, I can't let these

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Speaker 1: two down. Like we know Westbrook's a flawed player. We

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Speaker 1: know we can't hit three pointers. Even his free throw

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Speaker 1: shooting has dramatically dropped in recent years. But I think

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Speaker 1: there's a psychological play here. Westbrook plays as hard as

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Speaker 1: anybody in the league. Lebron plays as hard as anybody

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Speaker 1: in the league. That's the knock on Anthony Davis Listen, Kuzma, KCP, Montres,

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Speaker 1: Harald and a draft pick. Those are marginally talented players

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Speaker 1: who are inconsistent. Lebron's thinking, why not get a Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame player that's inconsistent, Right, Like when you get

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Speaker 1: into a baseball playoff. Not everybody can be Kurt Schilling

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Speaker 1: great possessions. Kuzma, KCP, Montrese, Harrold, a draft pick and

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Speaker 1: a twenty year old don't really so I think people

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Speaker 1: could say it's it's smells of desperation. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: let's be honest here. You know, you could have said

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Speaker 1: this year, by going and getting PJ. Tucker and Drew Holliday,

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee had to win, or Budenholzer was out of work,

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Speaker 1: or Janis, you know, was going to be seen as

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Speaker 1: just a guy who couldn't win the big game. Everybody

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Speaker 1: in the NBA. It's a year to year league. There's

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Speaker 1: a little desperation everywhere, right Daryl Morey's trying to get

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Speaker 1: be thinking, I control the offense anyway, Westbrook's not going

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Speaker 1: I just need his occasional greatness. I think that's the

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Speaker 1: I got a house in La two. We're way better

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Speaker 1: the overwhelming headline, right, what are you doing here? It

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Speaker 1: the move, but I get the move, and you know Lebron. Okay,

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Speaker 1: this it's Friday, so it's time for fake questions, real answers.

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Speaker 1: These are questions I want to answer, but don't want

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Speaker 1: to wait for somebody to ask me them. Here we go, Colin,

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Speaker 1: what did you make of the NBA Draft last night? Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to break it down. I think everybody

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Speaker 1: realizes it's a good draft with four or five potential stars.

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Speaker 1: But I thought it was remarkable that after Kade Cunningham

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Speaker 1: No problem with any of those picks. Jalen Suggs went fifth,

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Speaker 1: after Scotty Barnes at Florida State to Toronto. Scotty Barnes

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Speaker 1: can't shoot. He can't shoot. When I say Florida State basketball,

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Speaker 1: that define their program? Jalen Suggs has virtually no hole

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Speaker 1: He's twenty four. Jalen Suggs a baby, but a point

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Speaker 1: Isn't that what everybody in the league is dying to get?

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Speaker 1: You know, people look at Jannis and go, oh, Biggs,

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Speaker 1: But in the end, Drew Holliday was so valuable to

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Speaker 1: Remember during the season when Yannis missed games and Drew

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Speaker 1: Holliday was so effective Without Yannis. You need somebody that

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Speaker 1: a massive risk taking. Scottie Barnes, a Florida stay athlete.

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Speaker 1: just think that's a huge risk. Jalen Suggs is about

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Speaker 1: Evan Mobile is good but below Scottie Barnes, Wow, Toronto.

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Speaker 1: That is a huge risk. Dear Colin, do you remember

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Speaker 1: and does any of that have relevance to what's happening

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Speaker 1: with athletes today. Yes, of course, Michael Jordan acknowledged that

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Speaker 1: in the past. Dak Prescott, Cowboy quarterback admitted he was

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Speaker 1: depressed or in the pandemic after dealing with his brother's suicide.

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Speaker 1: Golfers and tennis players opt out all the time. You

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Speaker 1: just don't know about it. And it's significantly worse for

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Speaker 1: Olympic athletes because they're younger. They're representing the country, and

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Speaker 1: shit is stressful. Dear Colin, I know you've been saying

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Speaker 1: that you actively root against? Well? I root against cheap owners,

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Speaker 1: dysfunctional owners. I rooted against Marge Shot, former owner of

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Speaker 1: Al Davis, who was living by a nineteen seventies mantra

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Speaker 1: his last decade with the Raiders, Mike Brown, Cincinnati's cheap

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Speaker 1: net worth than their net results winning and losing. Dear Colin,

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Speaker 1: the NFL preseason is now three games long, from four.

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Speaker 1: be more strict regarding you. Folks. Leagues and teams do

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Speaker 1: Where if you're an unsigned free agent after a half

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Speaker 1: or Google, where if you're not vaccinated, you're not working.

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Speaker 1: One of the things I love about betting my favorite

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Speaker 1: sports I'm always finding new player props or game props

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Speaker 1: I like. And what's cool about the fan Duel sports book.

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Speaker 1: You can combine those props with other bets from the

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Speaker 1: Dame is definitely one of those places that it would

425
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Speaker 1: just seem like you really want to get into this

426
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Speaker 1: end of the pool. Seems to me, with all this chaos,

427
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: it could push back a twelve team playoff. Doesn't it

428
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Speaker 1: get in the way of this? I mean, you can't

429
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Speaker 1: be building a playoff when you're not even sure who's

430
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Speaker 1: playing in what league? Right, So there's two pieces of this,

431
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 1: and some of my colleagues that the Athletic could reported

432
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Speaker 1: on this from you have a new commissioner in the

433
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Speaker 1: in the ACC and Jim Phillips who came from being

434
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Speaker 1: the ADA at Northwestern, brilliant guy. You have, as you said,

435
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: very very new commissioner in the PAC twelve and pretty

436
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: new commissioner in the Big ten. And the other part

437
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,479
Speaker 1: of the power five is you have a really pissed

438
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: off and a guy who feels like he's been totally

439
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: betrayed and stabbed in the heart Bob bowlsby by Greg Sanky.

440
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: So let's take a side for a minute. Just how

441
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: many dominoes? Because now all of a sudden you have this.

442
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: The lawyers are going to be really involved in what

443
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: happens with the exit of Texas and OU from the

444
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 1: Big twelve. There's a lot of instability there. Who knows

445
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: how quickly they could get out. We know it's going

446
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: to be messy, but is it two years. It's not

447
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: like you can just slip a switch and all of

448
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: a sudden have a scheduling model and everything in transition

449
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 1: hit the ground running. We know they're going to be

450
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: there in twenty one. I think it's a stretch. I

451
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: think they could get out for twenty twenty two. So

452
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: how does this model work going forward? Also? How do

453
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Speaker 1: you put some of the toothpaste back in the tube

454
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Speaker 1: of this? And this is something that I don't feel

455
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Speaker 1: like a lot of people thought about too much. Last

456
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,719
Speaker 1: week you had a small working group that was really

457
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: kicking around ideas for the playoff expansion. That was four people.

458
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Speaker 1: It was a commissioner of the Mountain West, Craig Thompson,

459
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Speaker 1: who kind of represent a group of five interests, was

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Speaker 1: the ad of Notre Dame, Jack Swarbrick, and then two

461
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,719
Speaker 1: other guys, Greg Sanky from the SEC Bob Bowlsby from

462
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: the Big twelve. How does Bob Bowlsby feel about They

463
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 1: had all these meetings that were supposed to be in

464
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: secret amongst themselves about this FP and the guy who

465
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: he's been looking across the table from and on all

466
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: these zooms with has been basically gutting his business without

467
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 1: him knowing it. Like you go forward from that, I'm

468
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Speaker 1: not saying they won't because the alternative isn't good for

469
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: Bob Bowlesby either way. But I think that kind of

470
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Speaker 1: really juicy, salacious aspect of this is hard to get past.

471
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Speaker 1: I want to ask you an NFL question. You're writing

472
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Speaker 1: about it in The Athlete. Bruce Feldman joining us here.

473
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Speaker 1: I got into a discussion the other day with a

474
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Speaker 1: buddy of mine who's a diehard NFL guy. He knows

475
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Speaker 1: he works on my show. He really has a great

476
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: deal of insight, and he said, it's amazing to watch

477
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 1: the love affair with Joe Burrow. He's like, you guys

478
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: played like ten eleven games. Everybody loves him. Mike Sando

479
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: just had him in Tier two of his quarterbacks above

480
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, Jimmy Garoppolo, Jared Goff, and you're writing a

481
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: story on The Athletic about Joe Burrow and something now

482
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: that is being used in his camp. Yeah. So a

483
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Speaker 1: few weeks ago I went down to Orange County Jordan Palmer,

484
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Speaker 1: who we both know pretty well, Carson Palmer's younger brother,

485
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Speaker 1: who is really created quite a niche in the quarterback

486
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Speaker 1: private coaching space. And so I went down to Orange

487
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Speaker 1: County basically to see a couple of college quarterbacks that

488
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Speaker 1: I thought were going to be there. When I got there,

489
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen from the Bills was there working out. And

490
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Speaker 1: I knew Josh Allen a little bit because my crew

491
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Speaker 1: at Fox we have done a Bill's game as a rookie,

492
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Speaker 1: and so you know, saw him and Jordan Palmer was

493
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Speaker 1: kind of walking me through some of the really specific

494
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Speaker 1: tweaks they were working on this offseason to take a

495
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: guy who had gone from being a big question mark

496
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Speaker 1: accuracy wise coming into the league too. I completed sixty

497
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Speaker 1: nine percent of his passes last year, and Palmer says,

498
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Speaker 1: with the work that they think they've done on a

499
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Speaker 1: couple of specific throws, he thinks he can complete in

500
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Speaker 1: the mid seventies this year. And as we're talking on

501
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: the sideline, they have literally about a quarter million dollars

502
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,719
Speaker 1: worth of high tech. A lot of it is the

503
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Speaker 1: same kind of software that you would see in Hollywood

504
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: with like Marvel movies, and so it is things about

505
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: that kind of relate to the biomechanics work. And as

506
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: we're talking, he said, listen, Joe Burrow is going to

507
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Speaker 1: be a huge story this season. And here's why. It

508
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: started to explain how they have tweaked Joe Burrow from

509
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: basically he said, I want you to come out here,

510
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: and this is a Joe as after he got cleared

511
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: from his from his doctors from his knee injury, and

512
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: he said, when you come out here, I want you

513
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: to show, you know, basically tell me the throws that

514
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: you felt really off on. And so it basically was

515
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Speaker 1: like one or two. They looked at him and Jordan said,

516
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: you know, without him telling me, I wouldn't have been

517
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: able to really ide him because they're really subtle. But

518
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: when you go through it, and then they put him

519
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: on they have these um these plates that they're on.

520
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: They're like like kind of platforms that really test the

521
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Speaker 1: force into the ground when somebody throws. And so it's

522
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: really high tech um intel you're getting from it. And

523
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: so some of those things that they were able to

524
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Speaker 1: register and show Joe Burrow with a couple of subtle

525
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: tweaks and also as As Jordan said, his lower body

526
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: and his core has never been stronger because when you

527
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: go through the rehab product, just like he did, that's

528
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: the biggest area you really developed. And he said, so

529
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: the first time he started throwing, he goes there was

530
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: about five balls where and on this software, they have

531
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Speaker 1: nine security cameras that basically surround the quarterback as they're throwing,

532
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: and so they're getting all kinds of readouts. And he said,

533
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: by the fifth throw, he goes. This is a guy

534
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: who never registered higher than forty eight point five miles

535
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: per hour as great as he was in college, and

536
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: as the first pick of the draft, you know, people

537
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: loved how smart he was. They loved that he was accurate,

538
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: that he was pretty athletic. But the thing that was like, well,

539
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: he doesn't have like that. Wow, arm never registered more

540
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: than forty eight point five miles per hour EGGIT velocity.

541
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Speaker 1: When they showed him, they're like, hey, you're at fifty four.

542
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Speaker 1: He's like fifty four? What? And then they another one

543
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Speaker 1: fifty four and all of a sudden, Joe burrows, like,

544
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Speaker 1: give me a ball, and all of a sudden he

545
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: is throwing it. Not just a little better, he is

546
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: throwing it a profound difference in the velocity. And this

547
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: guy who has Palmer says, is like a computer. And

548
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: you know, I was around him a lot in his

549
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: last year at LSU when there on that title run

550
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: for working on a book about LSU's run, and he

551
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: is different in terms of just how he is as

552
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: a processor. I mean just from knowing what I know

553
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: about him and how his coaches feel about him, and

554
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: I was teammates feel about him. I expect him to

555
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: have a huge year from this based on how much

556
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: better his arm is now. As long as he stays healthy,

557
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: I think he has a chance to be really special there.

558
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: All right, Bruce, Chad Milman's around the corner. It's great

559
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: seeing you. Thanks for the updates. We both love college football.

560
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: I keep my fingers crossed. Thanks buddy, all right, thanks,

561
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: all right, Let's bring in Chad Milman, my buddy, the

562
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: Action Networth, the CEO. All right, So these are officially

563
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Speaker 1: my over and unders. Now, I bet a lot of

564
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: money Chad on over and unders. I love betting games,

565
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: but I futures over unders are my thing. And you know,

566
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: some guys like plan poker, some guys some guys bet

567
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: at halftime over unders. To me or fascinating. And because

568
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: I feel like I have to be a little bit

569
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: of a GM, I have to see into the future.

570
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,719
Speaker 1: I have to project how good rookies and free agents

571
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: will fit. And I've said before, if I didn't do

572
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: this for a living. My dream job as general manager

573
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: of an NFL team, which is, you know, not realistic,

574
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: but either is my life. All right, So here we go.

575
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Speaker 1: We both have six over unders. You did. What's interesting?

576
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: We both have three unders and three overs and we

577
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Speaker 1: have two. We didn't know this before that we share. Yeah, okay,

578
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: so let's start. I'll give you my six, but let's

579
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: start with the two that you agree. Okay, I have

580
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: Tennessee under nine. Yes, I think. I think the loss

581
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: of Arthur Smith as a coordinator is substantial. There's this

582
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: feeling that Ryan Tannehill is a new quarterback, and I

583
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: would say, no, go look at Matt Ryan. Matt Ryan's

584
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: been as good as his coordinator. Is that Ryan Tannehill

585
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: loses a one of the top two or three coordinators

586
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 1: in the league. This is also a team that still

587
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: has major deficiencies on the defensive side. And I just

588
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: wonder how many innings you know what they say, like

589
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: when a baseball team has a pitcher a pitching staff

590
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: that throws multiple guys in the two hundred innings the

591
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 1: following year, you have armed fatigue bet against the team

592
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: that wins the World Series. Well, how many we have

593
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: a running team here. How many carries can Tennessee's you know,

594
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: top back have before there's fatigue. I mean, we're getting

595
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: into an absurd I think they're going to become overly

596
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: reliant on the run in the game. I think Tannehill

597
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: steps back. I think the Jags are a live six

598
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: seven win team. I think the colt to the class.

599
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: So I'm going Tennessee under nine take it away, completely

600
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: agree with. I have fewer concerns about Derrick Henry in

601
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: the long term. Yeah, Like the guy's headed for a

602
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: brilliant five to seven year career, not a great to

603
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 1: undeniably Hall of Fame ten to twelve year career, no

604
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: matter how big you are, and he is a goliath, Like,

605
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: you can't carry the ball that much, get beat up

606
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: that much, and he gets beat up a lot, and

607
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: sustaining in the NFL, it's just physically impossible. I don't

608
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: think we can underestimate the impact Arthur Smith had on

609
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill. And thank you and Ryan Tannehill was a serviceable,

610
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: big armed quarterback when he was in Miami. He was

611
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl quarterback with a Hall of Fame caliber

612
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 1: running back for the number of seasons. He's been there

613
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: in Tennessee and a and an officers the coordinator who

614
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 1: understood both his limitations, what he was exceptional at, and

615
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: how to make him succeed. And by the way, let's

616
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: look at the playoffs last year when Ryan Tannehill had

617
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: to be the guy trying to beat up the Ravens,

618
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: That's not how they could win that game. It had

619
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: to be Derreck Henry and he was stoppable in that game.

620
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,479
Speaker 1: And look what happens right, So to me, like Arthur

621
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: Smith being in the driver's seat in Tennessee, that's what

622
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: was the difference maker for Ryan Tannehill if you'd only

623
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: have Arthur Smith. And then also, don't forget this defense

624
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: was pretty dreadful. And they've made some signings, but I'm

625
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,959
Speaker 1: not entirely convinced on both their signings and their draft

626
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: picks that they've proven to me, all right, all of

627
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 1: a sudden, they are a team that is going to

628
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: be better than the Colts in the AFC South. So

629
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Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. I think losing Arthur Smith

630
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: is a huge, huge loss that needs to be accounted for,

631
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: and the public certainly isn't going to think about that

632
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: it's why you're seeing the number as high as it is.

633
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the other one we agree on,

634
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: and I think the chances if we have two we

635
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: both agree on. I think they're pretty good bets. Colts

636
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: over nine and a half. Here's my reasoning. You know,

637
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: there's always been this feeling and betting that bet against

638
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: the team that won Monday Night Football the week before

639
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: because they're overvalued because everybody watches the game, and the

640
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz drama was so highly public. They were a

641
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: very public team there. You know, they're a blue blood,

642
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles. There was so much press regarding it

643
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: that a big chunk of betters and the public just

644
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: think Carson Wentz is no good. He's very good. He

645
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 1: had an awful year, And so I think people look

646
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 1: at the Colts and they don't see Carson Wentz as

647
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: perhaps anything better than Philip Rivers. It's a much bigger, stronger,

648
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: younger athlete who had a horrible year in a now

649
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 1: clearly learned dysfunctional mess in Philadelphia owner GM coach. So Carson.

650
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: I'm betting on Carson Wentz, who I think is a

651
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: beaten down stock, and that he will return to B

652
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: to B plus form and we know that this line

653
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: protected Philip Rivers, who is about as mobile, is an

654
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: end table. So I think they're getting a big energy

655
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 1: athletic boost at quarterback. And I think they're young players.

656
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor Pittman were emerging as stars late last year.

657
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: And let's be honest, this is a weak division. Houston's

658
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: never been worse. I think they could be a twelve

659
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: win team. I think twelve and five. So this to

660
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: me is the best over bet in the NFL this year.

661
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: So it's funny. You know, on my podcast The Favorites

662
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: on the Volume podcast Network, we've talked about the season

663
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: win totals and I asked two of our experts one

664
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Speaker 1: and professional better one, one of our analysts who does

665
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: this for a living as well. We were looking at

666
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: the double digit season win totals for the AFC. You

667
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: had the Chiefs, you had the Colts. I forget who

668
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: else would have been in there. You had Baltimore, you

669
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: had Buffalo. Right, So of all of the teams that

670
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: we talked about that had double digit win totals set

671
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 1: by the by the bookmakers, the Colts were the team

672
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: that the professional betters loved the most to go over

673
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: their double digit season win total. And look, it's the

674
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: it's the book end to what we were just talking

675
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: about Frank Reich with Carson Wentz. This is when Carson

676
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: Wentz was at his best when Frank Reich was his

677
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: quarterback coach. It was his coach in Philadelphia. That's when

678
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: he was having his MVP caliber year. That's when he

679
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: was the most deadly on third downs. That's when he

680
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: was the most confident. Right, But Frank Wright does he

681
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: goes to Indie and he has turned that into a

682
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: playoff team regardless of who's playing quarterback, right, Andrew Luck

683
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 1: and he's still doing it with Jacobe Brissette and Philip Rivers.

684
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Speaker 1: So you get Carson Wentz, who's still athletic, He's still

685
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: six five and built like a truck like. It's a

686
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: guy who if he has the right confidence, he's going

687
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: and he has the right plays called for him, and

688
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: he has someone who he believes believes in him. He's

689
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: going to play with more confidence. He's going to make

690
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 1: better throws, he's going to believe he can do things

691
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: that he has proven in the past he can do.

692
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: And just hasn't had the success to in the past

693
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Speaker 1: couple of years because it's not easy to do that

694
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia when everyone's against you. And by the way,

695
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 1: we're seeing all over the world right now, the best

696
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 1: athletes in the world, they are not immune to pressure,

697
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: they are not immune to struggling with confidence, they are

698
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: not immune to all these things, right, and so why

699
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: should Carson Wentz be any different? And I think the

700
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: ability to be buoyed by Frank Reich is massive, and

701
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: it's it's the opposite side of the coin from what

702
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: we're talking about with Ryan Tannehill and Arthur Smith. So

703
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: for that reason, plus they've got an incredibly good offensive

704
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: line because of what you said about Jonathan Taylor, because

705
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: as I really believe in their defense, they were three

706
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: plays and a call from beating Buffalo last year in

707
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: the playoffs, right, yeah, And so people forget that. The

708
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: reason why, Bookmaker, why is guys look at the box

709
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: scores of all of these games. The reason why they

710
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: dissect the plays, it's because fans look at the final score.

711
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: Why is, guys look at the details, and the details

712
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: show you that the Colts had every right to win

713
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: that game against the Bills in the playoffs last year,

714
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: and there'll be a better team this year. Now, I'm

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00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: going to give you my remaining four just a sentence,

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Speaker 1: agree or disagree, giving me a short sentence, Denver, I've

717
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: got under eight and a half. And here's why. Because

718
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs and the Chargers could be two

719
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: of the top four to five teams in the league.

720
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: They're going to go oh and four against them, meaning

721
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: they need nine wins in their remaining thirteen games. I'm

722
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: going to bet the under. Your thoughts so to me,

723
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: Getting Courtland Sutton back, having Ted Bridgewater likely be the quarterback,

724
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: having a defensive improvement makes me think yet eight and

725
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: a half is the way to get. Going over eight

726
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: and a half is the way to go. But I'm

727
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: not touching over a ten foot pall because there's so

728
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: many better options out there and too many factors I

729
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: can't anticipate. In addition to you what you don't know,

730
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: you can't anticipate yet, Buffalo over eleven, this is a

731
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: simple one. The quarterbacks in that division are going to

732
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: be Mac Jones, Tua and Zach Wilson. Potentially. If that's

733
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: the case, maybe cam starts their six and own division.

734
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 1: They have I believe solved their primary issue, pass rush.

735
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: I think this has a chance to be my best

736
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: team in the league. I'll take the over Buffalo eleven

737
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: as sentence. Your thoughts, hate it, hate it, hate it,

738
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: runaway regression, regression, regression. This is, by the way, betting

739
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: the team that won on Monday Night football. That's what

740
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: you're doing. You think, oh my god, this team they

741
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: made it to the to the AFC Championship Game. What

742
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: do we just say they were lucky to get by

743
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: the Colts in the opening round. I like New England

744
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: in this division. I think they are a fun sort

745
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: of dark horse by to win the division. I like

746
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: Miami in this division. I am not a seller on

747
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: TWA yet. I like what we're hearing about training camp,

748
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: both from him and from Jalen Waddle. I think this

749
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: offense could be much more dynamic than it's been to

750
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,439
Speaker 1: go with a really good defense. So I actually hate

751
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: your pick Minnesota over eight and a half. Why Detroit's

752
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: worse bears will start a rookie quarterback. Green Bay's got

753
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: tension in the building this morning. Forget about during the season.

754
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: This is a nine and seven team to me, don't

755
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: love it, but it feels like the right side. Yeah.

756
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 1: I guess what I would challenge you on is sure

757
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: it feels like the right side. Again, you're you're saying

758
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: they're over eight and a half, you think they're in

759
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: nine and seven. Team, there are thirty two teams that

760
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: you could potentially make choices on, and you're going with

761
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: a team you think might be half a game better

762
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: than what you're projecting it at. Because like, if you're

763
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: saying it's nine, you're not giving yourself much of an edge, right,

764
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 1: you can find better edges to bed on season win totals.

765
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: I agree with you, though. I was high on Minnesota

766
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: last year, and I think Mike Zimmer is a great coach,

767
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: and they were one of those teams last year where

768
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: I felt like they lost so many players on defense

769
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: in free agency and they basically used the first four

770
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: games of the year as their own training camp, right,

771
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: And I think Mike Zimmer knew that going in. And

772
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: then in the middle of the year they got hot

773
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: and Kirk Cousins started playing really well, and I really

774
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: thought this was going to be a team that could

775
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: challenge and make a run deep into the playoffs. And

776
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: then they sort of faded and a lot of different

777
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: things happened, and we were all proven wrong. But I

778
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 1: think what we saw in the middle of the year

779
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: with his team, how Mike Zimmer could coach this defense up,

780
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: and how he learned who his players were and how

781
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: to sort of utilize all of and I think you

782
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: put Kirk Cousins in better spots than he had. Plus

783
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: you've got Justin Jefferson, who I think he could lead

784
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: the league in receiving yards and Davin Cook, like they've

785
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: just got a powerhouse offense. I like what you're saying.

786
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: I'm only skeptical because I'm also pretty high in the Bears.

787
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: Finally Saints under nine. First of all, they've scaled back

788
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: their roster to get under the cap. They don't know

789
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: who the quarterback is. Michael Thomas and Sean Payton are

790
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: publicly feuding. He'll miss at least six games. And the

791
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 1: truth is Atlanta with Kyle Pitts and Arthur Smith will

792
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: be more dynamic. The Panthers with Matt Rule, Sam Darnold,

793
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: Chuba Hubbard, with McCaffrey good receiving corps, found a left

794
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: tackle in the draft, will be more dynamic. Those won't

795
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: be great teams, but they'll have juice, they'll score points,

796
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: you'll get into shootouts. I think New Orleans is in

797
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: a rebuild mode more than Hey Loomis and Sean Payton

798
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: have done this before. Those before when when Drew Brees

799
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: was taking the big money they had rebuilding years. I

800
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: just don't think they're close to his athletic and deep

801
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 1: as they were two years ago or a year ago.

802
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 1: I think it to rebuild Europe for the Saints. I'll

803
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: take the under nine. Yeah, I agree with you. I'm

804
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: not I'm not sold on. If we're going to say

805
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith was the key with Ryan Tannehill, right, imagine

806
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: what he can do with Matt Ryan right well, and

807
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: that's head coached to coordinator though we you know how

808
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: a lot of coordinators don't true, totally true. But I

809
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: also think Matt Ryan with Calvin Ridley though, like Calvin

810
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: Ridley right now, if you look at the odds on FanDuel,

811
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: if you look at the odds, he's the guy who

812
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: has the lowest odds to lead the league in receiving yards.

813
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan is at about twelve to one, fourteen to

814
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 1: one to lead the league in passing yards. I think

815
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 1: this offense can be just undeniably great. The challenge is

816
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: going to be can they stop anybody? Right? And like,

817
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: are they going to be able to keep up with

818
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: the Bucks? Probably not? But I do like the Saints.

819
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: I do like the Saints under bet because I am

820
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 1: big on the Panthers and who knows what sam Donold

821
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: is going to be, right, but he's still a very

822
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: young quarterback. And I am a huge, huge fan of

823
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: Matt Rule as a coach, So I like the Saints

824
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 1: under largely because you just don't know what you're getting

825
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: under center right right, Honestly, One of the bets that

826
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: professional betters love right now is who will be who

827
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: will take the first snap for the New Orleans Saints

828
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,439
Speaker 1: in Week one. You've got a lot of people saying

829
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 1: it's going to be Jameis Winston. He's the minus money

830
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 1: right now, He's the favorite, but there's still Taysom Hill

831
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: is about plus two twenty. And I know a lot

832
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 1: of wise guys you think that Sean Payton is going

833
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: to come out with Taysom Hill just to do a

834
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: trick play the first time they line up under center

835
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: this season. So like when you have that kind of uncertainty,

836
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: I think, when you're getting a team that you're asking

837
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: to win at least two more games than they are

838
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: backed too, or at least one more game than they

839
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: are expected to, I think it's a good bet to

840
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: play the under. All right, let's go to Chad's six

841
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: over under picks. We both agree Tennessee under nine Colts

842
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,479
Speaker 1: over nine and a half are two strongest plays. So

843
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: let's go to your four remaining picks. Give me, you know,

844
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: forty five seconds to a minute on each. I'll give

845
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: you my reaction. All right, Number one Texans under right now,

846
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: I think what you got him on FanDuel Texans under

847
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: five five, I think there are five, but we can

848
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: double check. I don't care. Honestly, you're right. I don't

849
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: care if it's five. I don't care if it's four

850
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: and a half. I don't care if it's four. This

851
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: team is a train wreck on fire driving to a

852
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: nuclear waste dump built over a landfill. Like this is

853
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: as bad a franchise as you can have. In the NFL.

854
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: There is chaos and ownership. There is chaos in the

855
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 1: front office. There is chaos and coaching where it feels

856
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 1: like they hired a guy who was in an also rand,

857
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,439
Speaker 1: who hasn't had a chance in thirty five years, who

858
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: nobody knows, who probably took the job because it's the

859
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: last chance to get a head coaching gig Oh, and

860
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: did we mention Deshaun Watson? So is Deshaun Watson going

861
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: to play? Is he showing up in practice just not

862
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: to get fined? Is he going to be punished? Is

863
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: he going to be in the middle of a trial?

864
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: Is he going to be traded? All of these things

865
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: could happen. So you're telling me your take a roster

866
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: that last year was terrible, a defense that was terrible,

867
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: and they're expected to win four games. Who are they

868
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 1: going to beat? Who's going to be their quarterback? Tell

869
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: me about this head coach that nobody could name in

870
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: a million years and what his style and philosophy is.

871
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: I love this Texans under. I can tell you that

872
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: every wise guy know who loves this Texans under and

873
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: thinks this team could go down as one of the

874
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 1: worst teams in NFL history. Okay, only concern, I agree.

875
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 1: Only concern is bad teams don't know they're bad until

876
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: about Week five and two of the first three games

877
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: are Eggs at home and Panthers at home, and they'll

878
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,760
Speaker 1: have a fighting chance because they'll have the best player

879
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: on the field and Shaun Watson. Mostly agree with your pick.

880
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: Next one. Here's the thing they may not do. We

881
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: know if de Shaun Watson's going to be suspended. I'm

882
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 1: betting he's gonna play so but but I'm I'm betting

883
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 1: the under because I don't know if he is, and

884
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,720
Speaker 1: I don't think they do have a shot against the Jags.

885
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: I don't think they do have a shot against the Panthers.

886
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: Next one, Next one, Lions, Lions under five. Come on,

887
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell's a meathead. I can't bet on him. I'm

888
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 1: sorry like this, this is another team. The roster is terrible.

889
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia did an unbelievably bad job coaching this team,

890
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: building a roster, finding talent. It's why they are now

891
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: stuck with Jared Goff, who two years after getting a

892
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: massive deal. Even Sean McVeigh was saying, I gotta get

893
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: out of this player. So I am not to be

894
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: going anywhere near the Lions. In addition to I will

895
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: get to them next high on the Bears, High in

896
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: the Vikings, high in the Packers. All right, fair enough,

897
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 1: let's go to your next Well, let's start with the Bears.

898
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: You have over seven and a half wins. I'm a

899
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: little concerned based on I just don't know if Justin

900
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 1: Fields Mike Zimmer is a very good coach. I feel

901
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: like Matt Lafleur is a fairly proven coach. I just

902
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: don't know what I'm gonna get. I don't think he's

903
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,959
Speaker 1: a can't miss. I think he's a can miss if

904
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: he's rushed into action early, and with Andy Dalton, he

905
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 1: will be. Chicago's a big, pressure ized city. They're gonna

906
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: want to see Justin Fields play, and I worry that

907
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna get rushed into it, and I worry he's

908
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: gonna be a little over his head. They're gonna lose

909
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: twice to Zimmer. He can't win a shootout with Aaron.

910
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: I worry about they go oh and four against the

911
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: Vikings and Packers, so I'd stay away. I don't dislike

912
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: the pick, But why do you like it? Well? I

913
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 1: think their defense is really really strong number one, number two,

914
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, you need that

915
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: as much as anything else. I am a buyer on

916
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: David Montgomery in the backfield. I thought he had a

917
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: tremendous year and they were finally figuring out how to

918
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 1: use him to relieve the pressure on the quarterback, even

919
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: though the quarterbacks last year weren't any good for the

920
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: Bears at all. Obviously, look, Ryan paces is building a

921
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: team to save his job. Matt Nagi is coaching to

922
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: save his job. At the end of the day, it's

923
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: about do you believe in Justin Fields or not? And

924
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: I am one hundred percent all in on Justin Fields.

925
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: I think he has proven it at every single stage

926
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 1: of his career. He was a superstar in high school,

927
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: he was a superstar in college. If you talk to

928
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: most experts, they would tell you that they are surprised

929
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 1: he wasn't the second quarterback taken in the draft this year.

930
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 1: To get him on the field, to have him land

931
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: in the lap of the Bears that and then have

932
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 1: the Bears be smart enough, the Bears be smart enough

933
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 1: to trade up to get him, to give up assets

934
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: that know are important to make the right call and

935
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: get a potential game change or a quarterback. To me,

936
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: this reminds me of a few years ago when for

937
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: whatever reason, Deshaun Watson was falling in the draft ended

938
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: up going to the Texans, and it was the Bears

939
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: who passed on Deshaun Watson. I think this was their

940
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: ability to say, whoops, my bad. I'm going after a

941
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: guy we believe can be a can't miss prospect and

942
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: he's proven it. Like I'm a firm believer that the

943
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: number of games you play in college is incredibly important

944
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: as a predictor of success in the NFL, and he

945
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 1: played a lot of games. He played a lot of games,

946
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: and he won. So I'm not worried about him, and

947
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: I do think, look, it's probably going to be three

948
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: or four weeks before he gets in, but I am

949
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: very confident that with a seventeen game season, that is

950
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:53,959
Speaker 1: going to give them a window to find a way

951
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: to get eight wins and finally, Chargers over nine and

952
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: a half. You've loved this for three months. I couldn't

953
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: be more in on the Chargers right now. You have

954
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: season tickets at the Chargers right listen. I bought my

955
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: business manager season tickets because I'm a good guy and

956
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: at the forty yard line, so I'm gonna go to

957
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 1: a couple with him. I had one of my best

958
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: friends here in LA has season tickets. Justin Herbert has

959
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: a There's really has this magnetic quality. People in Los

960
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,439
Speaker 1: Angeles who really know their football are like, is this

961
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: guy one of the top? Is he Marino like with

962
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: less publicity? And I'm not sure they're wrong. Yeah, I

963
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: feel like what he did last year forget about the

964
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: yardage and forget about sort of the wins. He was

965
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: preternaturally poised and and he did that in the NFL

966
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 1: as a rookie, unexpectedly playing with a terrible old line,

967
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: terrible offensive line. But more than anything, his handicap was

968
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 1: the coaching, the play calling and the decision making right.

969
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: And so this is a team, again to refer to

970
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 1: the wise guys, this is a team where they were

971
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: handicapping against Anthony Lynn. They were expecting him to make

972
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 1: bad decisions late in the game, they were expecting him

973
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: to screw up the clock management, and Justin Herbert was

974
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: finding ways to overcome all of that. It's hard enough

975
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: to overcome the defenses you have to play when you're

976
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: a rookie in the NFL. It's hard enough to try

977
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: to figure out what the schemes are hard enough to

978
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 1: try to figure out the playbook to have to then

979
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: do all these things and overcome bad, consistently bad decision

980
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: making and clock management from your coach. This guy being

981
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: untethered from that is going to be miraculous for this team.

982
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,479
Speaker 1: And then then at in they improve the offensive line

983
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: ad In, I think Keenan Allen is probably one of

984
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 1: the best receivers in the NFL that nobody ever talks about.

985
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: At in Derwin James coming back at in Bosa being healthy,

986
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you've got a new team just

987
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 1: by virtue of guys getting healthy and getting rid of

988
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 1: your coat. So like, if not for the Chiefs, and

989
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: I am already very invested in the Chargers on our

990
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: over and very invested in the Chargers to win the

991
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, not for the Chiefs. This is a team

992
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 1: that people have to take more seriously in the AFC.

993
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 1: His name is Chad Milman. Action Network. Follow us at

994
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,400
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995
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00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 1: Milman over unders to start really the preseason A couple

997
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Speaker 1: of weeks out. Good talking to you, buddy, See you man,

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