WEBVTT - Uncut Gems: The Great Diamond Hoax

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous. Crime is a production of I heart radio. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>Elizabeth Doutton, do you know it's ridiculous? Oh, I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>glad you asked. I do. It's actually human arrogance, like no,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean for real, like you know, we always think like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're so special, but it turns out like if you

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<v Speaker 1>really look around and you investigate, like animal research, you

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<v Speaker 1>find that animals are just like us. Like, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>did you know that it's been noted in captivity that

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<v Speaker 1>killer whales can learn to speak bottlenose dolphin? Really, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and not only that, sperm whales in the wild, like

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<v Speaker 1>in the Caribbean, they speak with an accent that other

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<v Speaker 1>whales can't. Do they when they speak Dolphin? Are they

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<v Speaker 1>speaking in a heavy whale accent? I wonder, but sperm

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<v Speaker 1>whales speak with their own specific Caribbean accent exactly like.

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<v Speaker 1>I just would love to hear what that sounded like.

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<v Speaker 1>And Cats, you know, like we think like Oh, cats

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<v Speaker 1>don't really like speak English like like well, it turns

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<v Speaker 1>out they do. They understand their name, they just choose

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<v Speaker 1>not to respond. They just ignore you when you say

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<v Speaker 1>their name. But they do. And then also, like, for instance, cows, right. Cows.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know that they love Cool Jazz? Yeah, cows,

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<v Speaker 1>if you played cool jazz, they will produce one point,

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<v Speaker 1>one point five more pints of milk per day for Jazz.

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<v Speaker 1>For Yeah, well, for any like. You know, Cool Colm Jazz,

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<v Speaker 1>smooth jazz, Cool Jazz, really calming music, often warm. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the quiet, quiet, wow, some animals are just like us.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody always thinks that we're so special. Human arrogance. Telling

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<v Speaker 1>your ridiculous agreed, that is ridiculous. Do you know what

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<v Speaker 1>else is ridiculous? Oh, you got one. Yeah, throwing a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of gems on the ground, calling it a motherload.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like some one of my uncles would do.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably this is ridiculous crime. A podcast about absurd and

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<v Speaker 1>outrageous capers, heists and cons. It's always murder free. And

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<v Speaker 1>guess what ridiculous? I've talked about the California Gold Rush

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<v Speaker 1>in the eighteen fifties before in my life, and also

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<v Speaker 1>talking to you here, Um, Shanghai, Kelly and all that

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<v Speaker 1>great episode to the UK. Right, yeah, and I've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the Yukon gold rush eighteen sixties, soapy Smith. Today

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<v Speaker 1>I have the story of a diamond rush sort of.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know there were such a thing as diamond rush.

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<v Speaker 1>This sort of by the eighteen seventies, right, the golden

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<v Speaker 1>silver rushes of forty and fifty nine respectively had petered out.

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<v Speaker 1>In the late eighteen sixties, diamonds were discovered in South

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<v Speaker 1>Africa and so optimistic prospectors started looking around North America

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<v Speaker 1>figuring look, we got gold, we got silver, diamonds were amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>So a few were actually found near Plasserville, California, in

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<v Speaker 1>gold country. There were a few verbal accounts from Western explorers,

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<v Speaker 1>but no one found like a huge mine a big

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<v Speaker 1>load of them. Enter Philip Arnold. No, I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>know about where you find diamonds, like in the what

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<v Speaker 1>type of rock strata or like you know gold, you

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<v Speaker 1>need certain granite qualities, right, you need certain rock formations

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<v Speaker 1>with diamonds. Do we even have the geology? Isn't there

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<v Speaker 1>one where you look for courts somewhere? Yeah, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that was with gold. Yeah, basically like streaks. Of course

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know diamonds. If there's a distinct smell, it's

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<v Speaker 1>an ore. Right, you gotta Break Open the Rock and

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<v Speaker 1>see the diamonds inside. So how are you going to

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<v Speaker 1>know anyway. I just wonder what they were looking for.

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<v Speaker 1>You look for Cay Jeweler's in the in the wild.

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<v Speaker 1>Philip Arnold. So he was born in Kentucky in eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nine. Does it really matter when? But as a

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<v Speaker 1>young man he dropped out of school and he wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to apprentice as a hatter, but he found that it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't suit him. So what did he do? He ran away.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna became cobb when you take a job

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not a good fit, you just straight everyone

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<v Speaker 1>to abandon every flee arms of flaylan. So he lied

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<v Speaker 1>about his age and enrolled in the army and he

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<v Speaker 1>served in the Mexican war. So he was out by

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight and after that he goes to California to

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<v Speaker 1>work as a gold rush forty niner. This guy's hitting

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<v Speaker 1>all the big marks. Totally doesn't strike it rich, runs

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<v Speaker 1>away arms flaalan. So he worked on all these Um,

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<v Speaker 1>he worked on various mining expeditions in the West for decades. Right. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>he did go back to Kentucky in eighteen fifty five

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<v Speaker 1>and he got married and then he went back again

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<v Speaker 1>in eighteen sixty two to buy some property he went

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<v Speaker 1>back during the war. Wanna say suspicious timing. Property going cheap.

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<v Speaker 1>I met this real cheap property in Kentucky right about now, colonel.

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<v Speaker 1>He's an opportunist. So he goes to Arizona and there

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<v Speaker 1>he meets another dude from Kentucky named Asbury harpending. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a hell of a Kentucky name. He's one of California's

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<v Speaker 1>foremost financiers. I Bet Asbury harpending. Is it harpending harpending?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't ask him, he's dead. It's all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>So in the mid eighteen sixties he goes to work

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<v Speaker 1>for Harpendings Lincoln Gold Mine Company in Plaster County California.

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<v Speaker 1>So PLASTERVILLE, plastic. One of the board members is an

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<v Speaker 1>associate of harpendings and he is a dude named George Roberts.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you writing all of this down? Taking copy's notes?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank God, because I'm not. In a two thousand four

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<v Speaker 1>article in Smithsonian magazine, which, by the way, is amazing. Shout.

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<v Speaker 1>I love so many magazine it's really good. It's amazing. Roberts,

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<v Speaker 1>in the article was described as, quote, the sort of

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<v Speaker 1>businessman described in newspapers as prominent, but his was a

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<v Speaker 1>prominence earned by moving fast and not asking too many questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Move fast breaks down. So by eight seventy arnold goes

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<v Speaker 1>back to San Francisco. He's working at the diamond drill

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<v Speaker 1>company as an assistant bookkeeper. So he's mining adjacent right,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not actually out there in the field. James Cooper

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<v Speaker 1>also worked at the Diamond Drill Company and Arnold knew

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<v Speaker 1>him from earlier prospecting days. So Cooper teaches arnold about

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<v Speaker 1>diamonds and gems. Well, yeah, and they're just, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're working at the company together, yapping about diamonds. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it was allegedly cooper who first brought up the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of as salting a piece of land with gems. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you know what that means? I'm guess. So you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>pepper round, you're gonna salt it, sprinkle it, sprinkly, sprinkle me.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't. He, Cooper didn't participate in the impending hoax,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's just like, you know, be really cool. You

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<v Speaker 1>guys being Super Fun for us to do. Just get

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of the Earth Hannibal Styles. So there's this

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<v Speaker 1>book called diamonds in the Salt and it's written by

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce Woodard. He said that Cooper also gave Arnold a

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<v Speaker 1>starting collection of leftover gems from the shop. So he's

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<v Speaker 1>got he's got little scrappings, he's cut scrabblings from the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of the bin. It's like how it like fried

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<v Speaker 1>chicken places they sell popcorn chicken, which is just the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that fell off the regular chicken and the Fryer.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my dairy or like in a butcher's shop, like

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff that comes off the table gets turned into

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<v Speaker 1>hot dogs. He's got the hot dogs of gems. Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's like, I'll give you all these scrabblings and Um,

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<v Speaker 1>enter John Slack, names, John Slack. Okay, Um, Cooper slack

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, so one note to go back a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>That this Dude Arnold, he likely purchased some of the

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<v Speaker 1>non diamonds, which would be like rubies, sapphires, etcetera, from

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<v Speaker 1>native Americans in Arizona. Okay, so they had more than like.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just supposition on People's part. Okay, okay. I was wondering,

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<v Speaker 1>do they have these emeralds down in the southwest? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I know they have, like you know, yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what if, like Arkansas, there's a lot in Arkansas.

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<v Speaker 1>There's all those places where you have the caverns. John

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<v Speaker 1>Slack so arnold needs help, so he brings in his cousin,

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<v Speaker 1>John Slack Action Slack Um. He was nine years older.

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<v Speaker 1>He's also from Kentucky, is his cousin, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>also a minor, forty niner. So cool if he was

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<v Speaker 1>nine years old from his nine year old cousin for

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<v Speaker 1>his tiny fingers to dig in the dirt. The idea, man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so good. The plan. How could it fail? November eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>Seventy Arnold and John Slack Um they go to George

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<v Speaker 1>Robert's office. The cousins are looking all weather beaten and

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<v Speaker 1>they said well, Hey, George, we got something really valuable.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like okay, Um, now it's too late in the

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<v Speaker 1>day to go deposit whatever they have at Bank of California.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're hoping that, Hey, can you store this for us?

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<v Speaker 1>We missed the bank is closed and it's just like

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<v Speaker 1>a bag. Can you store this for us, which, if

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<v Speaker 1>anyone comes to you and says can you hold this form, no,

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<v Speaker 1>the answer is no, especially if it's dripping especially if

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<v Speaker 1>it's dripping Um. So they're like, well, we got some

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<v Speaker 1>like rough diamonds, but we don't want to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>where we got them. We just have a bag of

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<v Speaker 1>rough diamonds. So, you know, Robert says, I'll store it

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<v Speaker 1>for you, and they said, please, don't tell anybody about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Their plan. Get him to tell one exactly. They

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<v Speaker 1>know that if you say don't tell anyone about this,

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<v Speaker 1>this man is going to turn around and tell everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>So what does he do? He Turns Around and he

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<v Speaker 1>tells William Ralston, the founder of Bank of California. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, check it out, William, these dudes, these two

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<v Speaker 1>Ding Dong's, came in bag of diamonds. I'm holding onto it.

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<v Speaker 1>We got fresh marks in town. Who else does he tell?

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<v Speaker 1>As very harpending? Yeah, so Ralston is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>richest guys in California and he made his fortune mostly

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<v Speaker 1>from like the silver bananza in Nevada's comstockload. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>was discovered in eighteen fifty nine Sara, Nevada's that's why

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<v Speaker 1>Nevada is called the silver state. That comstock looad kicked

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<v Speaker 1>off all the exploration for silver in Nevada. UTAH. That

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<v Speaker 1>cool weird town of Tonapon, Nevada exists because of the COMSTOCKLOAD.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of the big names in the California gold

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<v Speaker 1>rush had a piece of this action too. Switched over. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so Roberts brings in more interested parties. He's not supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be telling anyone. He tells all the big names.

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<v Speaker 1>He tells William Lent in general. George Dodge lent had

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<v Speaker 1>been a major investor in the comstock load. So this

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<v Speaker 1>group comes together and they want to buy the cousins out.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're they're doing exactly what the cousins thought. We

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<v Speaker 1>want to buy you out. They're like no, no, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>these are our special loose diamonds. We're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you where we got him. Slack, John Slack. He

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<v Speaker 1>he says, okay, I'll make you deal. Give me fifty

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<v Speaker 1>dollars now and then fifty dollars when we come back

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<v Speaker 1>to our from our next visit to the quote unquote field.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's like, acts like he's doing this side deal.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to please, I'm begging you to keep

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<v Speaker 1>in mind that fifty dollars then is like one point

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<v Speaker 1>two million dollars now. So he goes to them and says,

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<v Speaker 1>give me one point too cool, and I'll come back

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<v Speaker 1>to you after I've gone and check the field and

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<v Speaker 1>make sure there's more diamonds out there worth it. And

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is like saying yeah, because I at the

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<v Speaker 1>inside angle, like I'm planning, I'm buying this. Wasn't it

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<v Speaker 1>for him? He's thinking that this, if they've located a

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<v Speaker 1>place where there's all this these rough diamonds, are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to open a diamond mine. And they're

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<v Speaker 1>thinking these guys are marks and they can make me

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<v Speaker 1>move over on them. They don't realize what they've had.

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<v Speaker 1>That okay with you. So July one that Arnold and

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<v Speaker 1>slack they decided to go to London to buy more

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<v Speaker 1>uncut gems, like London, London, London, London. So Arnold's calling

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<v Speaker 1>himself Ondo. They're taking steamships to go buy Lord. I

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<v Speaker 1>love this. They like flap their wings, and then slack

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<v Speaker 1>uses his middle name, bircham. So they use these aliases.

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<v Speaker 1>They buy twenty dollars with rough diamonds and rubies. So

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<v Speaker 1>they come back to California. They got sixty pounds pounds.

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<v Speaker 1>Legitimately they've I'm imagining they put them in a crate

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<v Speaker 1>like a chess and so it's like a cartoon. You

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<v Speaker 1>open it up and he's like yeah, although they're rough.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like rocks Um. So they have the diamonds

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<v Speaker 1>and the rubies, sixty pounds. They smuggle them back in

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<v Speaker 1>and then they show Roberts and they're like, look what

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<v Speaker 1>we found in the field, sixty pounds. So they said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go back. We're going back to the field

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<v Speaker 1>and they told the businessman we're going to bring you

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<v Speaker 1>back a couple of million dollars worth of stones. So

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<v Speaker 1>if they're talking millions, then think about the value. Now

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<v Speaker 1>that's where we are right now. So we have huge

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<v Speaker 1>crates of stones that everyone thinks is getting pulled out

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<v Speaker 1>of the earth somewhere in the West field, undisclosed location.

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<v Speaker 1>When we come back from this break, I'm gonna let

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<v Speaker 1>you know how that delivery of precious stones went. And

0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:09.880
<v Speaker 1>and we're back hey, our pants on. I still got

0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:13.280
<v Speaker 1>all my teeth when we left off Arnold and slack.

0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Remember those two? Uh, they'd promised George Roberts, a board

0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:24.000
<v Speaker 1>member of Kentucky Creep, Asbury Harpendings, Lincoln Gold Mining Company

0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:31.680
<v Speaker 1>Plaster County California. George Roberts slippery businessman. So he says

0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:34.280
<v Speaker 1>he's beat. He'll be quiet about the gems. Turns around

0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:37.720
<v Speaker 1>tells the President of the Bank of California, tells Asbury,

0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Arnold and slack. He basically goes back into the smoky

0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:44.240
<v Speaker 1>dark room and says, Hey, guys, I got a live one. Well,

0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.840
<v Speaker 1>they're all doing all sorts of other illicit deals and

0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:49.880
<v Speaker 1>the exploiting people and they're like, Oh, time out on

0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:53.720
<v Speaker 1>this exploitation. We've got another one coming in Arnold and slack.

0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:57.200
<v Speaker 1>They go to a remote spot in southern Wyoming. What

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<v Speaker 1>they've decided is the field and that's where they salt

0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:03.720
<v Speaker 1>the ground. So they have like they're like flower girls

0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:08.680
<v Speaker 1>at a wedding, just tossing like little like fabric petals

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<v Speaker 1>all over the ground. They were wearing little pinafores and

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<v Speaker 1>it was wild. SOTYO history, like Wyoming, abbreviated wyo history

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<v Speaker 1>dot org. Quote. Arnold and slack had salted the Mesa

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<v Speaker 1>which straddles the Wyoming Colorado border, about forty four miles

0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:32.920
<v Speaker 1>south of rock springs, Wyoming territory, with low grade diamonds

0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:36.440
<v Speaker 1>and other gemstones. To this day, the Mesa is officially

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<v Speaker 1>marked on US Geological Survey Topographic maps as diamond field.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if you could go out there and still

0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:46.680
<v Speaker 1>find a loose rock to they maybe, I mean if

0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:49.240
<v Speaker 1>they spread around wide enough. But yeah, so it's just Oh,

0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:52.440
<v Speaker 1>diamond field, that's where the diamonds are. So Arnold chose

0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:55.280
<v Speaker 1>the location because it was so remote and the weather

0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:58.240
<v Speaker 1>was so bad. No one's gonna want to go out there.

0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:00.200
<v Speaker 1>No one's gonna pop in, you know, just like I

0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:01.680
<v Speaker 1>was in the neighborhood, just a loot to check out

0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:04.160
<v Speaker 1>diamond field, taking a walk and with my dogs and

0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh my look, Dang kids get a pail. So they

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<v Speaker 1>even so right, they still don't want anyone tracking them.

0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:14.120
<v Speaker 1>So they keep the trail hidden by wrapping the horses

0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:18.280
<v Speaker 1>hoofs in Canvas and they wore moccasins. Damn, that's going

0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:21.640
<v Speaker 1>the extra mile. They don't want anyone. I've never heard

0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:23.800
<v Speaker 1>of anyone wrapping a horse's feet like that. I do

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<v Speaker 1>it all the time, but go to the store. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to know. That's commitment. Thank you. So back

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<v Speaker 1>in California, Um hardpending, Asbury harpending, he meets him at

0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:40.640
<v Speaker 1>the train station when they come back, and he said, quote,

0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:43.920
<v Speaker 1>both were travel stained and weather beaten men and had

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<v Speaker 1>the general appearance of having gone through much hardship and privation.

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<v Speaker 1>Slack was sound asleep, but, Arnold said, grimly erect, like

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<v Speaker 1>a vigilant old soldier with a rifle by his side.

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<v Speaker 1>Also a bulky looking buckskin package. So they come back

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like and see, like they're in character, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're just lounging in the train. We're getting

0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:09.800
<v Speaker 1>close to the station, rumful up those one to three

0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:14.639
<v Speaker 1>sleep pretends. So in the package, in that bulky looking

0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:19.679
<v Speaker 1>buckskin package, large collection of diamonds. The cousins said they

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<v Speaker 1>had originally had two bundles but they lost the other

0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:25.760
<v Speaker 1>one crossing a river. So it's like, you think, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a lot more guys, much more of what a trip?

0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:32.159
<v Speaker 1>So way too many just to carry. I love how

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<v Speaker 1>they're playing these guys. Oh, they're amazing. So the Group

0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:38.000
<v Speaker 1>of investors, they decided to get the diamonds inspected by

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<v Speaker 1>a third party. You think they bring ten of the

0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:45.080
<v Speaker 1>gems that Arnold had given them to New York and

0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:49.480
<v Speaker 1>they head over and talked to none other than Charles Tiffany, damn,

0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:52.320
<v Speaker 1>founder of the eponymous tiffany. Go right to the top.

0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:57.760
<v Speaker 1>The New York meeting participants also included civil war generals

0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:03.119
<v Speaker 1>George McClellan and Benjaminer, the coward, George mcquean. That's what

0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:08.600
<v Speaker 1>he's doing. He got into the Emerald Business. So Benjamin Butler,

0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:12.439
<v Speaker 1>he's a US representative from Massachusetts. He was recommended as

0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:16.439
<v Speaker 1>someone who could help with issues regarding the land, like

0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I can grease those wheels, um. And then Horace Greeley coune.

0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:24.119
<v Speaker 1>He was there, but who knows why? Well, you know,

0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:27.719
<v Speaker 1>chrony is m he just liked to watch. So Um

0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:35.480
<v Speaker 1>tiffany praises the stones corruption. It's my cank. Tiffany appraises

0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:38.040
<v Speaker 1>the stones at a hundred and fifty thousand dollars, which

0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:42.119
<v Speaker 1>is three point six million dollars today. Yeah, that's a lot,

0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:45.720
<v Speaker 1>that's a fair bit. And please remember, I'm begging you,

0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:49.280
<v Speaker 1>please remember, these are just ten percent of a collection

0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:53.320
<v Speaker 1>that had been purchased in London for dollars exactly. This

0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:56.000
<v Speaker 1>isn't incredible. It's quite the come up. So these New

0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:58.880
<v Speaker 1>York jewelers that they're having, like, is there any way

0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:01.640
<v Speaker 1>that they're in on this. No, they can't be. No,

0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:04.240
<v Speaker 1>they have no idea. That bad at their jobs completely

0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:08.800
<v Speaker 1>and they're rough. So it's not like I can tell

0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:12.840
<v Speaker 1>that these were cut somewhere or whatever. So, Um, it

0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:16.439
<v Speaker 1>was later revealed because tiffany's expertise was in cut stones,

0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:20.200
<v Speaker 1>not in uncut ones. But still, I mean like it's

0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:22.359
<v Speaker 1>like if you're a farmer and you grow corn and

0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:24.960
<v Speaker 1>I bring you baby corn and you're like, oh, that

0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:27.440
<v Speaker 1>looks just like corn. I mean like you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to Parse a couple of these things. I

0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:34.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't know, but you know what act

0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:36.680
<v Speaker 1>like you know. That's what tiffany's up in there acting

0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:41.200
<v Speaker 1>like he knows. So the group values the most recent

0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:43.920
<v Speaker 1>bounty brought in at one point five million and then

0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:47.840
<v Speaker 1>officially forms the San Francisco and New York mining and

0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:52.320
<v Speaker 1>commercial company when in doubt form a company. December eight

0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:56.040
<v Speaker 1>seventy one arnold goes back to London. It was like,

0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:58.960
<v Speaker 1>come on, I need somewhere. I'm good. Jumps Dude. He

0:19:59.119 --> 0:20:02.680
<v Speaker 1>spends there between eight thousand and thirty five thousand dollars

0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:05.600
<v Speaker 1>on uncut gems. We know how this is going. To

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<v Speaker 1>come right. I'm wondering, like there's obviously no communication between

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<v Speaker 1>London and New York. That's what surprising me is that

0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:14.399
<v Speaker 1>they're not like they're going over there making a major

0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:16.520
<v Speaker 1>purchase and they don't. None of this is filtering ring

0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:21.280
<v Speaker 1>back across the Atlantic. has either from just well still though,

0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:23.480
<v Speaker 1>a major purchase. I mean like the jewelers. You think

0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:25.760
<v Speaker 1>there'd be some like, you know, price change, like, oh,

0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:29.040
<v Speaker 1>we got a big plant. There's this whale in London constelling,

0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:30.800
<v Speaker 1>buying up jewels. Why don't they come to New York?

0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Who are they? Whatever? Good questions. And if they're Americans

0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:36.159
<v Speaker 1>going to London, the Brits would know that. Maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>used fake accents. That would be amazing. Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>any diamonds? And then people trying to speak French to

0:20:45.840 --> 0:20:52.160
<v Speaker 1>them and they all UM, okay. So they start this company,

0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:55.440
<v Speaker 1>legal paperworks in place. They decided to take their first

0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:57.600
<v Speaker 1>visit to the diamond field. I mean it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>You've now created this diamond field. So they hire a

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<v Speaker 1>well respected mining engineer named Henry Jannon to come along

0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:10.880
<v Speaker 1>for the ride. Hop in Henry Jannon, total protogists. Yeah,

0:21:11.160 --> 0:21:15.280
<v Speaker 1>he had inspected hundreds of minds really conservative in his

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<v Speaker 1>assessments as well. So he's like Hurst or like the

0:21:18.960 --> 0:21:22.520
<v Speaker 1>color talks to him. No, I think he's like science

0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:27.040
<v Speaker 1>guy and because he'd done all these conservative assessments so

0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:29.760
<v Speaker 1>that the owners would wind up getting way more than

0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:32.560
<v Speaker 1>a thought out of all of these minds. So it's

0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:33.959
<v Speaker 1>like a good guy to come in. He's not going

0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:38.040
<v Speaker 1>to overstate it. He's basically internationally known for being the

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<v Speaker 1>final boss of mine inspection. They bring in the final

0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:50.200
<v Speaker 1>boss Spring of Eighteen, Seventy two, Arnold John Slack, harpending, Asbury, Jannon,

0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:54.520
<v Speaker 1>a general dodge, and then a British acquaintance of harpending's

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<v Speaker 1>named Alfred rubery. They get together in St Louis and

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<v Speaker 1>they head on a train to Wyoming. Now, fun fact

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<v Speaker 1>Asbury and rubery they first met in the United States

0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:10.399
<v Speaker 1>during the civil war. Both were sympathetic to the south.

0:22:10.960 --> 0:22:14.479
<v Speaker 1>They outfitted a schooner in San Francisco Harvard to plunder

0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:21.920
<v Speaker 1>ships for the cause of confederacy. However, that went overwhelm

0:22:22.000 --> 0:22:24.360
<v Speaker 1>I bet the San Francisco whalers and gold ships are

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<v Speaker 1>just like, Oh yeah, come with it. So well, they

0:22:27.119 --> 0:22:29.440
<v Speaker 1>could both get arrested and convicted of trees. I was

0:22:29.480 --> 0:22:31.960
<v Speaker 1>going to say that did not last long. Harpending did

0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:35.520
<v Speaker 1>ten years. Well, he was sentenced to ten years in Alcatraz, damn,

0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:39.680
<v Speaker 1>and after four months he was released, though, because Lincoln

0:22:39.720 --> 0:22:42.639
<v Speaker 1>granted amnesty to all political prisoners who would agree to

0:22:42.720 --> 0:22:47.159
<v Speaker 1>take and keep the oath of allegiance. So rubery was

0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:50.480
<v Speaker 1>also sentenced to ten years, also pardoned. So he gets

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<v Speaker 1>by on the whole, mouth towards none. So here we have.

0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:57.520
<v Speaker 1>This is who we're dealing with here. Um Anyway, Arnold

0:22:57.600 --> 0:22:59.760
<v Speaker 1>and slack. They're about to head this group up to

0:22:59.800 --> 0:23:04.359
<v Speaker 1>this spot where they say that they've just been picking gems. Willing, Willy, Um,

0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:07.359
<v Speaker 1>they purposefully take the group on the super roundabout path

0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:11.760
<v Speaker 1>to the field, trying to confuse them about the exact location. Finally,

0:23:11.760 --> 0:23:15.480
<v Speaker 1>on June four, after four long days on horseback, they arrive.

0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:20.240
<v Speaker 1>The group they begin digging. They find gems almost immediately because, yeah,

0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:25.800
<v Speaker 1>there's like everywhere, harpending Asbury. Harpending later writes, quote, I

0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:28.040
<v Speaker 1>had not been on the ground three minutes before I

0:23:28.040 --> 0:23:33.040
<v Speaker 1>found a large diamond. I got off my horse. That

0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:37.960
<v Speaker 1>day we got over five hundred diamonds, rubies sapphires and emeralds.

0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:40.360
<v Speaker 1>Arnold would generally tell me where the best places were

0:23:40.359 --> 0:23:46.159
<v Speaker 1>to dig for the gems, the Easter egg where. This

0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:47.639
<v Speaker 1>is right in front of the cage, like, I don't know,

0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:52.520
<v Speaker 1>look under that room. So over the next few days

0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:58.760
<v Speaker 1>the group continues to look successfully surprised gems. Jannen, don't

0:23:58.800 --> 0:24:02.919
<v Speaker 1>forget final bosses. He surveyed three thousand acres, although the

0:24:03.000 --> 0:24:06.679
<v Speaker 1>salted area was only like an acre. So he surveys it.

0:24:07.240 --> 0:24:09.840
<v Speaker 1>They head back to San Francisco. They left slack and

0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:15.160
<v Speaker 1>rubery to guard the grounds. Right unknown reasons, who knows

0:24:15.560 --> 0:24:18.359
<v Speaker 1>those two? They bail out after a few days. The

0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:22.440
<v Speaker 1>ones guarding it. Slack, he had been paid his hundred thousand.

0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Remember the fifty and then fifty. He was never seen

0:24:25.080 --> 0:24:29.480
<v Speaker 1>by the group again. So smart he's like, I think

0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:32.720
<v Speaker 1>I've gotten as much as I can. I'm going to

0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:39.080
<v Speaker 1>tap out now. So Jannon, though, he submits a report

0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:42.600
<v Speaker 1>of his findings to the group. He estimates the value

0:24:42.600 --> 0:24:47.160
<v Speaker 1>of the company's stock at around forty dollars share and

0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:51.960
<v Speaker 1>the property at least four million. Right. So, as part

0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:55.399
<v Speaker 1>of his deal, Jannen, who just assessed the value of

0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:59.320
<v Speaker 1>the stock, he purchases a thousand shares at ten dollars each.

0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:01.280
<v Speaker 1>He's saying that the shares or forty, but they're going

0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:03.199
<v Speaker 1>to let him buy a thousand at ten. Yeah, so

0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:05.280
<v Speaker 1>this is his like payback from the group. It's like

0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:07.000
<v Speaker 1>he gets in on the ground and then he sells him.

0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:09.840
<v Speaker 1>He later sells him. He gets around thirty grand and

0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:15.480
<v Speaker 1>becomes the only non swindler to profit from this scam. Oh,

0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:18.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad the honest man made an honest profit. Everyone

0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:23.119
<v Speaker 1>was sure that this diamond field was legit. We know better, Saron,

0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:29.000
<v Speaker 1>do we ever? Yea. So let's listen to some ads.

0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Just hear him out, okay, just listen to him and

0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:33.359
<v Speaker 1>when we get back I'm going to tell you what

0:25:33.440 --> 0:25:36.199
<v Speaker 1>happened when it's discovered that a gem rich field in

0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:38.960
<v Speaker 1>the middle of nowhere is in fact to legit to

0:25:39.040 --> 0:26:07.959
<v Speaker 1>quite well, hello, Hey, I'm back. Hey, where was I? Ah, yes, French, yes, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was decided, based on an assessment by legendary

0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:16.959
<v Speaker 1>mining engineer Henry Jannon, that the field was indeed swollen

0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:21.560
<v Speaker 1>with gems, just like a tick, and everything was on

0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:23.720
<v Speaker 1>the up and up. I mean, I was just kind

0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:26.040
<v Speaker 1>of surprised Jannon went for the like. You know, if

0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:28.840
<v Speaker 1>he knows this industry, he knows how rocks are, he

0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:31.359
<v Speaker 1>knows like where you're gonna find gem fields. When you

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:33.720
<v Speaker 1>go out and you find like diamonds three inches into

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:36.359
<v Speaker 1>the dirt or maybe just sitting there, lightly custed but

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:38.680
<v Speaker 1>covered with dust, you have to be like, this is

0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:42.000
<v Speaker 1>not normal. We didn't have to like get out axes

0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:45.280
<v Speaker 1>and cut into yeah, like, where's my Rock Hammer? What Thee?

0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:48.879
<v Speaker 1>Where are the children I can send down this hole? Um?

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:53.119
<v Speaker 1>So remember Jann and he says the stock in the

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:55.560
<v Speaker 1>company's worth forty is share and then he buys it

0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:59.400
<v Speaker 1>at ten. Arnold was paid hundred and fifty thousand dollars

0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:02.119
<v Speaker 1>for his fine and then he also got three hundred

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:06.600
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars worth of stock right which he sold off.

0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:09.400
<v Speaker 1>He sells it to Asbury. In all he makes about

0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:13.720
<v Speaker 1>five hundred fifty thousand dollars. Take away the thirty five

0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:16.800
<v Speaker 1>or to fifty he spent on gems in London. So

0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 1>he makes five and fifty thousand dollars in eighteen seventy

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:24.800
<v Speaker 1>two is something like thirteen point three million dollars today. Damn.

0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:30.399
<v Speaker 1>That's liked by this point the news of the find

0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:34.119
<v Speaker 1>and Jannon's report becomes public. No one knows where the

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:38.960
<v Speaker 1>land is still and although many tried unsuccessfully to guess

0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 1>its location and send their own parties out there to look.

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:44.639
<v Speaker 1>So people are sneaking around. In the fall of eighteen

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 1>seventy two men from the San Francisco and New York

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 1>mining and commercial company and Jann and they made another

0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:54.360
<v Speaker 1>trip to Wyoming to try and secure the land. Hie

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Up loose ends and then they purchased this land. Yet

0:27:57.200 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. Okay, Arnold sides not to join them.

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:04.600
<v Speaker 1>He's like you guys, go ahead. He's already moved back

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:07.400
<v Speaker 1>to Kentucky. At this point he's like, you know, I'm

0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 1>going home. On the train back to the bay area,

0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Jannon runs into two geologists, Samuel Emmons and James Gardner.

0:28:16.520 --> 0:28:20.959
<v Speaker 1>Now those who worked for Clarence King, a recognized geologist

0:28:20.960 --> 0:28:25.119
<v Speaker 1>who some years before had persuaded the US government to

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 1>fund a survey of the land between the rockies and

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:31.639
<v Speaker 1>the SIERRAS. So this guy, he's got the government looking

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 1>at stuff. He and his team, including Emmans and Gardner,

0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:38.400
<v Speaker 1>surveyed the fifty miles on either side of the parallel.

0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:43.440
<v Speaker 1>So they know this area. They are, you know, they're

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:46.360
<v Speaker 1>like the final final bosses. They're quite intimate. This is

0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 1>like the back of their hand. So emmans and gardener right.

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:52.400
<v Speaker 1>They suspect that Jannon and his crew are coming from

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 1>the mysterious gem field that everyone's been talking about and

0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 1>they wondered if the field was near the land that

0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 1>they surveyed. So they asked the group like kind of,

0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:03.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, innocent, innocuous questions. So where are you coming from?

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 1>What did you do there? What longitude and latitude of

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 1>you guys coming from? What was the quality of the

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:11.320
<v Speaker 1>dirt where you were hanging out? Um, and they're able

0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:13.280
<v Speaker 1>to figure out where the field is based on all

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 1>their secret questions. So then they go back and they

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 1>tell Clarence King, the geologist, final final boss, about this

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:24.960
<v Speaker 1>encounter they had on the train. King says, you know what,

0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 1>let's go look for ourselves. I think I can find

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 1>the land. I want to corroborate Jannon's findings, just, you know,

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 1>academic expertise. A big discovery, but I mean, if you

0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 1>think about it, this is a revolutionary thing that there's

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:43.880
<v Speaker 1>this incredible not just diamonds but rubies and Sapphire, everything

0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 1>you can imagine. Just he's like, I want to see this.

0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:50.240
<v Speaker 1>Native population had noticed it in the thousands. They had

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:52.960
<v Speaker 1>been there. But you know, you know as you do.

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:56.960
<v Speaker 1>So the group sets out right. They didn't tell anybody

0:29:57.000 --> 0:30:00.520
<v Speaker 1>else about the real purpose of their trip and instead

0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 1>they were telling people that they were going to look

0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 1>for carboniferous fossils instead of diamonds. That's one of the

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 1>scientific non laws. So they get to Wyoming, they get

0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 1>off the train. They continued on for a few days.

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 1>They find the site. Zaren, I want you to close

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:22.000
<v Speaker 1>your eyes. I was wondering my eyes over here permanently

0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>open and stuff. Okay, one second. Are Closed. I want

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 1>you to picture it. Yes, the three geologists, Samuel Emmons,

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:38.080
<v Speaker 1>James Gardner and their boss, Clarence King, stand in Rock Springs,

0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 1>Wyoming territory. They've stepped off the train and have secured

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:46.480
<v Speaker 1>horses for their forty odd mile trip into the desolate distance.

0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 1>The Sky is so incredibly vast. Above and before them,

0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:56.160
<v Speaker 1>the hills are like a mustard gold velvet, the shrubs

0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 1>and grasses all crisping in the fall air, just waiting

0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:02.600
<v Speaker 1>for that cold ight of winter. The wind howls around

0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 1>them as they set off dust swirls. They consult the

0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 1>rough map they've drawn up of the approximate location of

0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 1>this so called gem field. After a number of days,

0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:16.320
<v Speaker 1>they locate the spot. They tie up their horses, they

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 1>get out their equipment, they begin their search. This is

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 1>a most American moment, people looking at a barren, deserted

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:29.000
<v Speaker 1>or silently empty landscape before them, hoping beyond hope to

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:32.080
<v Speaker 1>find fortune where others would just walk on by. But

0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 1>these guys are part of a most modern American moment.

0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 1>They are the cynics, they're the specialists who want information

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 1>confirmed before they'll believe anything, and these are, unfortunately, the

0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:49.520
<v Speaker 1>very rare Americans. So one of the men stoops over,

0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:53.200
<v Speaker 1>scraping away at this arid soil. He finds gems. The

0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:56.959
<v Speaker 1>other men dig they find the same gems. It seems

0:31:56.960 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 1>to them that these came right from the ground beneath them,

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 1>the product of Wild Wyoming. They were thrilled, they were surprised.

0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 1>They logged their fines into the evening and they bedded

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 1>down for the night. I can only imagine that the

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:12.640
<v Speaker 1>sky above them, so clear on an autumn evening, was

0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:15.719
<v Speaker 1>just thick with stars, the Milky Way Tucking him in

0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 1>the endless night full of diamonds reflecting back to the

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:23.880
<v Speaker 1>riches that slept underneath them in the dirt. However, looking

0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 1>more carefully the next morning, they realized there's kind of

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 1>a pattern to how these gems are distributed. For example,

0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 1>this is my favorite. King found a diamond, quote perched

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 1>precariously under a slender rock. So like tossed a diamond

0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:41.200
<v Speaker 1>on the ground that set a rock on top of it.

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Like ya trying to catch a mouse with a diamond,

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:51.080
<v Speaker 1>you put a little rock. Yes, so they're like how,

0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:54.560
<v Speaker 1>how could this have been like this for hundreds, nay thousands,

0:32:54.600 --> 0:32:58.160
<v Speaker 1>of years? A scientific mystery. And there also seemed to

0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:01.320
<v Speaker 1>be sort of a uniform ratio of one diamond found

0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:04.200
<v Speaker 1>with around a dozen rubies. Yes, are also what I

0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 1>imagine is that there is a pathway if you follow it,

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:11.040
<v Speaker 1>and they kind of are cast from that pathway side. Um,

0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:15.280
<v Speaker 1>they also found gems in ant hills, but they were

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 1>only in the ant hills that had footprints, are disturbed

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 1>dirt near them. So all this dangerous? Well, first of all,

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:25.480
<v Speaker 1>why would there be in the middle of an ant

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:29.520
<v Speaker 1>hill wouldn't the ant hill is unearthed. They would move

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 1>the earth around. Yeah, that's part of the earth they'd

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 1>be kicking out anyway. Um, so the geologists they go

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 1>further afield. They dig holes where diamonds should be based

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 1>on what they've been seeing. But the earth is clearly

0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 1>undisturbed and they found no diamonds. That's all. So king

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:51.320
<v Speaker 1>concluded quote summing up the minerals. This rock has produced

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:57.600
<v Speaker 1>four distinct types of diamond, a few oriental rubies, garnets, spinels, sapphires,

0:33:57.640 --> 0:34:02.080
<v Speaker 1>emeralds and Amethysts, an association enough minerals of impossible occurrence

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:05.520
<v Speaker 1>in nature, and some mimerals that are only found in India,

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:08.560
<v Speaker 1>some others only found in Iran. It's very curious. It

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:11.799
<v Speaker 1>is fascinating. So a few days into their work, a

0:34:11.840 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 1>man on horseback approaches them. He introduces himself as JF

0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:19.319
<v Speaker 1>Berry from New York City. He'd followed them there and

0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:25.719
<v Speaker 1>been watching them. Creepy the whole time. He's like hiding,

0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:29.640
<v Speaker 1>he's like so he says like hey, you guys found gems.

0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Creepy one of them. Let slip that the site is

0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:36.239
<v Speaker 1>a hoax. He's exhausted, he's been digging in ant hills.

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:38.600
<v Speaker 1>He's like yeah, we found gems and it's all garbage.

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 1>He's nursing his hand blisters. So then, but then they're

0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:43.759
<v Speaker 1>like they get worried that the news is going to

0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:46.240
<v Speaker 1>blow the whole thing wide open and put their colleagues

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:49.359
<v Speaker 1>at risk. So the geologists they high tail it back

0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:51.840
<v Speaker 1>to San Francisco so that they can tell the mining

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:57.080
<v Speaker 1>and commercial company what they've discovered. More November, seventy two

0:34:57.120 --> 0:35:01.400
<v Speaker 1>they arrived in San Francisco. Now K out of respect,

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:04.200
<v Speaker 1>first goes to Jannon, not the company. I like that

0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:08.240
<v Speaker 1>night things that in terms of like respect for your colleague.

0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 1>That's done because he knows this is going to ruin you.

0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Many like man, you may want to go to India

0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 1>look for the gems there. So Jannon, at first he

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:19.400
<v Speaker 1>stands by his findings and he's like no, I you

0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:21.279
<v Speaker 1>know this is I know what I saw. So then

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:24.920
<v Speaker 1>they talk all night and finally Jannon accepts like he

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:28.840
<v Speaker 1>was duped. That's got to be hard. You know, people

0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 1>get really tired. It's really hard for most people to

0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 1>admit mistakes or admit they don't know. It's also really

0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 1>hard to use reason and rationality to correct emotions. Those

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:42.360
<v Speaker 1>are two different languages, so you can't use one to

0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 1>usually correct the other. You can use belief to correct emotion,

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:47.440
<v Speaker 1>but you usually can't use fact to correct emotions. If

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:50.360
<v Speaker 1>he's committed himself to it, he will not be swayed. No,

0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:52.520
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's like, that's a really hard moment.

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:54.520
<v Speaker 1>I could see how it takes all night to bring

0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:58.399
<v Speaker 1>him to that point. Um So, the next morning, King

0:35:58.480 --> 0:36:00.960
<v Speaker 1>and Jannon, they go to the mine and commercial company

0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:04.600
<v Speaker 1>directors and they tell them you have been victims of fraud.

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:07.799
<v Speaker 1>I hate to break it to you. The directors asked

0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:10.400
<v Speaker 1>King the geologists to take a few of them out

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:13.359
<v Speaker 1>there with Jannin. Go out to the field they go.

0:36:14.440 --> 0:36:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Now they're seeing it all with new eyes. They have

0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:19.040
<v Speaker 1>all this new information. They're like, Oh my God, how

0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:21.839
<v Speaker 1>do we not this is totally a hoax, as there's

0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:28.560
<v Speaker 1>like one gem perched on top of it's in a

0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:31.200
<v Speaker 1>plastic Easter, like, how did this get out her? We

0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:35.360
<v Speaker 1>don't have plastic yet. Um So, the newly hired general

0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:38.600
<v Speaker 1>manager of the company said he saw ruby scattered in

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:41.919
<v Speaker 1>such a way that, quote, it would have been impossible

0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:44.520
<v Speaker 1>for nature to have deposited them. As for a person

0:36:44.600 --> 0:36:47.319
<v Speaker 1>standing in San Francisco to toss a marble in the

0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 1>air and have it fall on the Bunker Hill monument right,

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:56.439
<v Speaker 1>he's painting a beautiful picture. So the directors like, raise

0:36:56.480 --> 0:36:58.960
<v Speaker 1>your hand if you want to dissolve the company. All

0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:01.799
<v Speaker 1>the hands went up. Some people raised two hands and

0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:04.960
<v Speaker 1>a foot. So Arnold and slack they get indicted for

0:37:05.040 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 1>fraud by a grand jury. Case never goes to trial.

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:11.560
<v Speaker 1>They indicted in mcentia but they never went to trial.

0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Arnold gets sued by William lent remember, he was the

0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:17.839
<v Speaker 1>big investor in the comstock load, the big money man.

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:19.880
<v Speaker 1>They settled out of court for a hundred and fifty

0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:24.600
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars, though he said Um he paid. Arnold says

0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:26.960
<v Speaker 1>he paid not because he was guilty but because the

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:29.239
<v Speaker 1>lawsuit was time consuming and he wanted to move on

0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 1>with his life and he was tired of the Pinkerton's harassing.

0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:38.400
<v Speaker 1>He's like here's your one fifty boring A. I'm onto

0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 1>greener pastors. You guys. Back in Kentucky Arnold had bought

0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:45.320
<v Speaker 1>a house, obviously from the money he made the hoax.

0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:51.400
<v Speaker 1>The House had marble fireplaces, had really crazy, chandeliers, high ceilings,

0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:56.480
<v Speaker 1>beautiful wallpapers, always very nice, good touch. To this day

0:37:56.520 --> 0:37:58.479
<v Speaker 1>there are locals who are convinced that there are still

0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:01.800
<v Speaker 1>diamonds buried in the basement a house. Such a typical

0:38:01.880 --> 0:38:04.880
<v Speaker 1>local Lord exactly. You know, there are kids who like

0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:08.759
<v Speaker 1>stare from the bushes of the he also bought five

0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:12.120
<v Speaker 1>acres in his wife's name where he bred thoroughbred horses

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:14.920
<v Speaker 1>and he raised sheep. There's a real wealth in this story.

0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:18.799
<v Speaker 1>We know about the Horse Trade. There he invested in

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:22.839
<v Speaker 1>real estate, became a banker. He became what he was

0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 1>trying to take down. Um in the spring of eighteen

0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:29.719
<v Speaker 1>seventy eight, he was in dispute with another banker, but

0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:34.240
<v Speaker 1>that banker had insulted Arnold in a letter, doubting his trust,

0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:37.720
<v Speaker 1>trustworthiness because of the possible involvement in the diamond hoax.

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:41.560
<v Speaker 1>There was a shootout and Arnold was hit in the shoulder.

0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:44.600
<v Speaker 1>It did not kill him, but in the winter of

0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:47.160
<v Speaker 1>eighteen seventy nine he caught pneumonia and he died in

0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:49.880
<v Speaker 1>the hospital in February eight. So was that like a

0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:55.399
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky Colonel Duel like so I write in a letter.

0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:58.440
<v Speaker 1>So you insulted me and I think you're a fraud,

0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:01.680
<v Speaker 1>and drop a white glove and you smell like dukie

0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:06.000
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, well, I never and then so what

0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:10.600
<v Speaker 1>about slack? What about John? After abandoning his duty guarding

0:39:10.640 --> 0:39:14.360
<v Speaker 1>the field, slack went to St Louis. He worked. What

0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:17.239
<v Speaker 1>would you do if you had the money that he had?

0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:21.040
<v Speaker 1>You bailed out on guarding the supposed diamond field. You

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:24.800
<v Speaker 1>go to St Louis. What would you do? M Go

0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:30.080
<v Speaker 1>to St Louis late eighteen hundreds by a stockyard. He

0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:33.600
<v Speaker 1>worked as a carpenter at a coffin company. What not

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:37.640
<v Speaker 1>in my top one choices. And then he eventually became

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:41.040
<v Speaker 1>president there he worked his wing did I'm not kidding.

0:39:41.600 --> 0:39:44.279
<v Speaker 1>Then he goes to New Mexico and the job he

0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:47.040
<v Speaker 1>had in New Mexico was adjacent. He became an undertaker.

0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Now he didn't get into the Topaz business. No, he

0:39:49.719 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 1>became an undertaker. He died in eighteen ninety six, at

0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:56.759
<v Speaker 1>the age of seventy six. So Arnold pretty much pulled

0:39:56.800 --> 0:39:59.520
<v Speaker 1>it off. Slack would have too, but he cut and

0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 1>ran and wound up doing a lot of death work.

0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 1>He still had a little bit that Szaren, what is

0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 1>your ridiculous takeaway here, Oh man, Um, one that rich

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:13.479
<v Speaker 1>people are easy to scam, especially if you can tell

0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 1>them that you're dumb. You know, I just don't know

0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:18.799
<v Speaker 1>these things, but a big, strong, strap and gentleman such

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:21.359
<v Speaker 1>as yourself, you probably could. You know, like you play

0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:24.920
<v Speaker 1>that up, but like, in terms of finances, I think

0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:26.520
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna go. They'RE gonna go for it, and this

0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:30.120
<v Speaker 1>apparently has been true for aons. I mean, you can

0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:32.600
<v Speaker 1>just goes back. You know, this is exactly the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that we saw in the DOT com boom. This was

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that you see in real estate scams. Is

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<v Speaker 1>the thing you saw in l a, the Owens Valley River,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like everywhere you go you will see this,

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<v Speaker 1>like somebody comes along necks like, I just don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what to do, and then they scam these rich people

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<v Speaker 1>who are so certain. So usually, I mean it's the

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<v Speaker 1>it's the traditional act of the confidence artists. They work

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<v Speaker 1>on your confidence. So it's it's a flawless scheme. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just so surprised that these people who, you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>know money, they know wealth, but they don't know anything

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<v Speaker 1>about jewels or gems and they don't stop to think.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just struck by how many times they had

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<v Speaker 1>to go out there with experts before they could actually

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<v Speaker 1>see the truth, because they're so convinced by what they

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to believe. But they think they're pulling a scam

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<v Speaker 1>to what I'm saying. So they're like, oh, we're getting

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<v Speaker 1>one over on them. So they're so busy thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>the scam that they don't actually check their own beliefs.

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<v Speaker 1>Their scam is based on a faulty belief, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>nobody looking at the greed that they don't check that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like that's the parts. That's ridiculous. I'm like, come

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<v Speaker 1>on now, how did you get wealthy? Right, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>said it earlier about that being the most American moment.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when Americans are at their best, at their

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<v Speaker 1>most sort of Whitman esque, they see possibility everywhere. They're

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<v Speaker 1>expansive in thought, they're curious, adventurous. Yeah, they don't get

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<v Speaker 1>sidetracked by the like base animal tribalism of wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>just be with people that look and think and sound

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<v Speaker 1>and believe like they do right or do things in

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<v Speaker 1>the old way. Yeah, they're open, they're eager. Life is vast,

0:41:57.719 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 1>it's exciting, it's full of possibility. That's the America, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the dream America, the sort of fiction. So in this

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<v Speaker 1>story we have like the sad underbelly of that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the one driven by greed. I I like Arnold

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<v Speaker 1>and slack, right. So they used the big wigs greed

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<v Speaker 1>against them, the bank owners, the mining magnets. They're so

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<v Speaker 1>eager to get money off the backs of individual miners,

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<v Speaker 1>just like they've been doing. It's what made them so

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<v Speaker 1>unbelievably wealthy. I mean, like it is so hard to

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<v Speaker 1>comprehend how much money these guys got, all the like

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<v Speaker 1>the big four, all the railroad barons, everything, like you

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<v Speaker 1>talked about that with old billy minor, the train robber. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So the fat cats in this case, they didn't think critically,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said. They never asked. They thought greedily and

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<v Speaker 1>then they acted in haste because they're so quick to

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<v Speaker 1>take advantage of Arnold and slack and, as I used

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<v Speaker 1>to exploiting people, and they see someone and they go

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<v Speaker 1>a quick read. It's like, Oh, we can exploit this person. Yeah, well, surprise.

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<v Speaker 1>So once again I'm not being too critical the criminals

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<v Speaker 1>here at all. No one was hurt or killed. Are

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite. They just lightened the pockets some fat cat

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<v Speaker 1>and then the cool scientists cracked the case, that they

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<v Speaker 1>got out there and actually like, Oh hey, let's just

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<v Speaker 1>go walk this and see what we find. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think those are like the true winners here, even

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<v Speaker 1>that they walked away with no money. They won. They

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<v Speaker 1>beat them, they beat everything. That's it. That's all I have.

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