1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Ridiculous. Crime is a production of I heart radio. Hey, 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Doutton, do you know it's ridiculous? Oh, I'm so 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: glad you asked. I do. It's actually human arrogance, like no, 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: I mean for real, like you know, we always think like, oh, 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: we're so special, but it turns out like if you 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: really look around and you investigate, like animal research, you 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: find that animals are just like us. Like, for instance, 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: did you know that it's been noted in captivity that 9 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: killer whales can learn to speak bottlenose dolphin? Really, yeah, 10 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: and not only that, sperm whales in the wild, like 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: in the Caribbean, they speak with an accent that other 12 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: whales can't. Do they when they speak Dolphin? Are they 13 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: speaking in a heavy whale accent? I wonder, but sperm 14 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: whales speak with their own specific Caribbean accent exactly like. 15 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: I just would love to hear what that sounded like. 16 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: And Cats, you know, like we think like Oh, cats 17 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: don't really like speak English like like well, it turns 18 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: out they do. They understand their name, they just choose 19 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: not to respond. They just ignore you when you say 20 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: their name. But they do. And then also, like, for instance, cows, right. Cows. 21 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: Did you know that they love Cool Jazz? Yeah, cows, 22 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: if you played cool jazz, they will produce one point, 23 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: one point five more pints of milk per day for Jazz. 24 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 1: For Yeah, well, for any like. You know, Cool Colm Jazz, 25 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: smooth jazz, Cool Jazz, really calming music, often warm. Yeah, 26 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: the quiet, quiet, wow, some animals are just like us. 27 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: Everybody always thinks that we're so special. Human arrogance. Telling 28 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: your ridiculous agreed, that is ridiculous. Do you know what 29 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: else is ridiculous? Oh, you got one. Yeah, throwing a 30 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: bunch of gems on the ground, calling it a motherload. 31 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: It sounds like some one of my uncles would do. 32 00:01:43,040 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: Probably this is ridiculous crime. A podcast about absurd and 33 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: outrageous capers, heists and cons. It's always murder free. And 34 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: guess what ridiculous? I've talked about the California Gold Rush 35 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: in the eighteen fifties before in my life, and also 36 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: talking to you here, Um, Shanghai, Kelly and all that 37 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: great episode to the UK. Right, yeah, and I've talked 38 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: about the Yukon gold rush eighteen sixties, soapy Smith. Today 39 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: I have the story of a diamond rush sort of. 40 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: I didn't know there were such a thing as diamond rush. 41 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: This sort of by the eighteen seventies, right, the golden 42 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:48,119 Speaker 1: silver rushes of forty and fifty nine respectively had petered out. 43 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: In the late eighteen sixties, diamonds were discovered in South 44 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: Africa and so optimistic prospectors started looking around North America 45 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: figuring look, we got gold, we got silver, diamonds were amazing. 46 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: So a few were actually found near Plasserville, California, in 47 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: gold country. There were a few verbal accounts from Western explorers, 48 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: but no one found like a huge mine a big 49 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: load of them. Enter Philip Arnold. No, I don't really 50 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: know about where you find diamonds, like in the what 51 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: type of rock strata or like you know gold, you 52 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 1: need certain granite qualities, right, you need certain rock formations 53 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: with diamonds. Do we even have the geology? Isn't there 54 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: one where you look for courts somewhere? Yeah, I thought 55 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: that was with gold. Yeah, basically like streaks. Of course 56 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: I don't know diamonds. If there's a distinct smell, it's 57 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: an ore. Right, you gotta Break Open the Rock and 58 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: see the diamonds inside. So how are you going to 59 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: know anyway. I just wonder what they were looking for. 60 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: You look for Cay Jeweler's in the in the wild. 61 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: Philip Arnold. So he was born in Kentucky in eighteen 62 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: twenty nine. Does it really matter when? But as a 63 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: young man he dropped out of school and he wanted 64 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: to apprentice as a hatter, but he found that it 65 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: didn't suit him. So what did he do? He ran away. 66 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: I was gonna became cobb when you take a job 67 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: and it's not a good fit, you just straight everyone 68 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: to abandon every flee arms of flaylan. So he lied 69 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: about his age and enrolled in the army and he 70 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: served in the Mexican war. So he was out by 71 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: forty eight and after that he goes to California to 72 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: work as a gold rush forty niner. This guy's hitting 73 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: all the big marks. Totally doesn't strike it rich, runs 74 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: away arms flaalan. So he worked on all these Um, 75 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: he worked on various mining expeditions in the West for decades. Right. Um, 76 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: he did go back to Kentucky in eighteen fifty five 77 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: and he got married and then he went back again 78 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: in eighteen sixty two to buy some property he went 79 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: back during the war. Wanna say suspicious timing. Property going cheap. 80 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: I met this real cheap property in Kentucky right about now, colonel. 81 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: He's an opportunist. So he goes to Arizona and there 82 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: he meets another dude from Kentucky named Asbury harpending. That's 83 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: a hell of a Kentucky name. He's one of California's 84 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: foremost financiers. I Bet Asbury harpending. Is it harpending harpending? 85 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: I can't ask him, he's dead. It's all of them. 86 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: So in the mid eighteen sixties he goes to work 87 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: for Harpendings Lincoln Gold Mine Company in Plaster County California. 88 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: So PLASTERVILLE, plastic. One of the board members is an 89 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: associate of harpendings and he is a dude named George Roberts. 90 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: Are you writing all of this down? Taking copy's notes? 91 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: Thank God, because I'm not. In a two thousand four 92 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: article in Smithsonian magazine, which, by the way, is amazing. Shout. 93 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: I love so many magazine it's really good. It's amazing. Roberts, 94 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: in the article was described as, quote, the sort of 95 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: businessman described in newspapers as prominent, but his was a 96 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: prominence earned by moving fast and not asking too many questions. 97 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: Move fast breaks down. So by eight seventy arnold goes 98 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: back to San Francisco. He's working at the diamond drill 99 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: company as an assistant bookkeeper. So he's mining adjacent right, 100 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: he's not actually out there in the field. James Cooper 101 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: also worked at the Diamond Drill Company and Arnold knew 102 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: him from earlier prospecting days. So Cooper teaches arnold about 103 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: diamonds and gems. Well, yeah, and they're just, you know, 104 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: they're working at the company together, yapping about diamonds. Now 105 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: it was allegedly cooper who first brought up the idea 106 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: of as salting a piece of land with gems. Do 107 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: you know what that means? I'm guess. So you gotta 108 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: pepper round, you're gonna salt it, sprinkle it, sprinkly, sprinkle me. 109 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: He didn't. He, Cooper didn't participate in the impending hoax, 110 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: but he's just like, you know, be really cool. You 111 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: guys being Super Fun for us to do. Just get 112 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: a bunch of the Earth Hannibal Styles. So there's this 113 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: book called diamonds in the Salt and it's written by 114 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: Bruce Woodard. He said that Cooper also gave Arnold a 115 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: starting collection of leftover gems from the shop. So he's 116 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: got he's got little scrappings, he's cut scrabblings from the 117 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: bottom of the bin. It's like how it like fried 118 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: chicken places they sell popcorn chicken, which is just the 119 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: stuff that fell off the regular chicken and the Fryer. 120 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: That's my dairy or like in a butcher's shop, like 121 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: the stuff that comes off the table gets turned into 122 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: hot dogs. He's got the hot dogs of gems. Yeah, exactly. 123 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: So he's like, I'll give you all these scrabblings and Um, 124 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:06,239 Speaker 1: enter John Slack, names, John Slack. Okay, Um, Cooper slack 125 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: and yeah, so one note to go back a little bit. 126 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: That this Dude Arnold, he likely purchased some of the 127 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: non diamonds, which would be like rubies, sapphires, etcetera, from 128 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: native Americans in Arizona. Okay, so they had more than like. 129 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: That's just supposition on People's part. Okay, okay. I was wondering, 130 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: do they have these emeralds down in the southwest? I mean, 131 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: I know they have, like you know, yeah, and I 132 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: don't know what if, like Arkansas, there's a lot in Arkansas. 133 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: There's all those places where you have the caverns. John 134 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: Slack so arnold needs help, so he brings in his cousin, 135 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: John Slack Action Slack Um. He was nine years older. 136 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: He's also from Kentucky, is his cousin, and he was 137 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: also a minor, forty niner. So cool if he was 138 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: nine years old from his nine year old cousin for 139 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: his tiny fingers to dig in the dirt. The idea, man, 140 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: it's so good. The plan. How could it fail? November eighteen, 141 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: Seventy Arnold and John Slack Um they go to George 142 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: Robert's office. The cousins are looking all weather beaten and 143 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: they said well, Hey, George, we got something really valuable. 144 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 1: They're like okay, Um, now it's too late in the 145 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: day to go deposit whatever they have at Bank of California. 146 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: So they're hoping that, Hey, can you store this for us? 147 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: We missed the bank is closed and it's just like 148 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: a bag. Can you store this for us, which, if 149 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: anyone comes to you and says can you hold this form, no, 150 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: the answer is no, especially if it's dripping especially if 151 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: it's dripping Um. So they're like, well, we got some 152 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: like rough diamonds, but we don't want to tell you 153 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: where we got them. We just have a bag of 154 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: rough diamonds. So, you know, Robert says, I'll store it 155 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: for you, and they said, please, don't tell anybody about this. 156 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: Is Their plan. Get him to tell one exactly. They 157 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,599 Speaker 1: know that if you say don't tell anyone about this, 158 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: this man is going to turn around and tell everybody. 159 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: So what does he do? He Turns Around and he 160 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: tells William Ralston, the founder of Bank of California. Yeah, 161 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: he's like, check it out, William, these dudes, these two 162 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: Ding Dong's, came in bag of diamonds. I'm holding onto it. 163 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: We got fresh marks in town. Who else does he tell? 164 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: As very harpending? Yeah, so Ralston is one of the 165 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 1: richest guys in California and he made his fortune mostly 166 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: from like the silver bananza in Nevada's comstockload. Yeah, that 167 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: was discovered in eighteen fifty nine Sara, Nevada's that's why 168 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: Nevada is called the silver state. That comstock looad kicked 169 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 1: off all the exploration for silver in Nevada. UTAH. That 170 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: cool weird town of Tonapon, Nevada exists because of the COMSTOCKLOAD. 171 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: A lot of the big names in the California gold 172 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: rush had a piece of this action too. Switched over. Yeah, 173 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: so Roberts brings in more interested parties. He's not supposed 174 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: to be telling anyone. He tells all the big names. 175 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: He tells William Lent in general. George Dodge lent had 176 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: been a major investor in the comstock load. So this 177 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: group comes together and they want to buy the cousins out. 178 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: So they're they're doing exactly what the cousins thought. We 179 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: want to buy you out. They're like no, no, sorry, 180 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: these are our special loose diamonds. We're not going to 181 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: tell you where we got him. Slack, John Slack. He 182 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: he says, okay, I'll make you deal. Give me fifty 183 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: dollars now and then fifty dollars when we come back 184 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: to our from our next visit to the quote unquote field. 185 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: So he's like, acts like he's doing this side deal. 186 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: I want you to please, I'm begging you to keep 187 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: in mind that fifty dollars then is like one point 188 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: two million dollars now. So he goes to them and says, 189 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: give me one point too cool, and I'll come back 190 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: to you after I've gone and check the field and 191 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: make sure there's more diamonds out there worth it. And 192 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: this guy is like saying yeah, because I at the 193 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: inside angle, like I'm planning, I'm buying this. Wasn't it 194 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: for him? He's thinking that this, if they've located a 195 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: place where there's all this these rough diamonds, are going 196 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 1: to be able to open a diamond mine. And they're 197 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: thinking these guys are marks and they can make me 198 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: move over on them. They don't realize what they've had. 199 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: That okay with you. So July one that Arnold and 200 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: slack they decided to go to London to buy more 201 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: uncut gems, like London, London, London, London. So Arnold's calling 202 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 1: himself Ondo. They're taking steamships to go buy Lord. I 203 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: love this. They like flap their wings, and then slack 204 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: uses his middle name, bircham. So they use these aliases. 205 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: They buy twenty dollars with rough diamonds and rubies. So 206 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: they come back to California. They got sixty pounds pounds. 207 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: Legitimately they've I'm imagining they put them in a crate 208 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: like a chess and so it's like a cartoon. You 209 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: open it up and he's like yeah, although they're rough. 210 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: So it's like rocks Um. So they have the diamonds 211 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: and the rubies, sixty pounds. They smuggle them back in 212 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: and then they show Roberts and they're like, look what 213 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: we found in the field, sixty pounds. So they said, okay, 214 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna go back. We're going back to the field 215 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: and they told the businessman we're going to bring you 216 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: back a couple of million dollars worth of stones. So 217 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: if they're talking millions, then think about the value. Now 218 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: that's where we are right now. So we have huge 219 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: crates of stones that everyone thinks is getting pulled out 220 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: of the earth somewhere in the West field, undisclosed location. 221 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: When we come back from this break, I'm gonna let 222 00:13:42,760 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 1: you know how that delivery of precious stones went. And 223 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: and we're back hey, our pants on. I still got 224 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: all my teeth when we left off Arnold and slack. 225 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: Remember those two? Uh, they'd promised George Roberts, a board 226 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: member of Kentucky Creep, Asbury Harpendings, Lincoln Gold Mining Company 227 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: Plaster County California. George Roberts slippery businessman. So he says 228 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: he's beat. He'll be quiet about the gems. Turns around 229 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: tells the President of the Bank of California, tells Asbury, 230 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: Arnold and slack. He basically goes back into the smoky 231 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: dark room and says, Hey, guys, I got a live one. Well, 232 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: they're all doing all sorts of other illicit deals and 233 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: the exploiting people and they're like, Oh, time out on 234 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: this exploitation. We've got another one coming in Arnold and slack. 235 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: They go to a remote spot in southern Wyoming. What 236 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: they've decided is the field and that's where they salt 237 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: the ground. So they have like they're like flower girls 238 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: at a wedding, just tossing like little like fabric petals 239 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: all over the ground. They were wearing little pinafores and 240 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: it was wild. SOTYO history, like Wyoming, abbreviated wyo history 241 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: dot org. Quote. Arnold and slack had salted the Mesa 242 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: which straddles the Wyoming Colorado border, about forty four miles 243 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: south of rock springs, Wyoming territory, with low grade diamonds 244 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: and other gemstones. To this day, the Mesa is officially 245 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: marked on US Geological Survey Topographic maps as diamond field. 246 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: I wonder if you could go out there and still 247 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: find a loose rock to they maybe, I mean if 248 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: they spread around wide enough. But yeah, so it's just Oh, 249 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: diamond field, that's where the diamonds are. So Arnold chose 250 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: the location because it was so remote and the weather 251 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: was so bad. No one's gonna want to go out there. 252 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: No one's gonna pop in, you know, just like I 253 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: was in the neighborhood, just a loot to check out 254 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: diamond field, taking a walk and with my dogs and 255 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: Oh my look, Dang kids get a pail. So they 256 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: even so right, they still don't want anyone tracking them. 257 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: So they keep the trail hidden by wrapping the horses 258 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: hoofs in Canvas and they wore moccasins. Damn, that's going 259 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: the extra mile. They don't want anyone. I've never heard 260 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: of anyone wrapping a horse's feet like that. I do 261 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: it all the time, but go to the store. I 262 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: don't want to know. That's commitment. Thank you. So back 263 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: in California, Um hardpending, Asbury harpending, he meets him at 264 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: the train station when they come back, and he said, quote, 265 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: both were travel stained and weather beaten men and had 266 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: the general appearance of having gone through much hardship and privation. 267 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: Slack was sound asleep, but, Arnold said, grimly erect, like 268 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: a vigilant old soldier with a rifle by his side. 269 00:16:55,760 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: Also a bulky looking buckskin package. So they come back 270 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: and they're like and see, like they're in character, like 271 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: you know, they're just lounging in the train. We're getting 272 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: close to the station, rumful up those one to three 273 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: sleep pretends. So in the package, in that bulky looking 274 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: buckskin package, large collection of diamonds. The cousins said they 275 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: had originally had two bundles but they lost the other 276 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: one crossing a river. So it's like, you think, this 277 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: is a lot more guys, much more of what a trip? 278 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: So way too many just to carry. I love how 279 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: they're playing these guys. Oh, they're amazing. So the Group 280 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: of investors, they decided to get the diamonds inspected by 281 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: a third party. You think they bring ten of the 282 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: gems that Arnold had given them to New York and 283 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: they head over and talked to none other than Charles Tiffany, damn, 284 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: founder of the eponymous tiffany. Go right to the top. 285 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: The New York meeting participants also included civil war generals 286 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: George McClellan and Benjaminer, the coward, George mcquean. That's what 287 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: he's doing. He got into the Emerald Business. So Benjamin Butler, 288 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: he's a US representative from Massachusetts. He was recommended as 289 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 1: someone who could help with issues regarding the land, like 290 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: I can grease those wheels, um. And then Horace Greeley coune. 291 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: He was there, but who knows why? Well, you know, 292 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 1: chrony is m he just liked to watch. So Um 293 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: tiffany praises the stones corruption. It's my cank. Tiffany appraises 294 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: the stones at a hundred and fifty thousand dollars, which 295 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: is three point six million dollars today. Yeah, that's a lot, 296 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: that's a fair bit. And please remember, I'm begging you, 297 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: please remember, these are just ten percent of a collection 298 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: that had been purchased in London for dollars exactly. This 299 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: isn't incredible. It's quite the come up. So these New 300 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: York jewelers that they're having, like, is there any way 301 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 1: that they're in on this. No, they can't be. No, 302 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: they have no idea. That bad at their jobs completely 303 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: and they're rough. So it's not like I can tell 304 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: that these were cut somewhere or whatever. So, Um, it 305 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 1: was later revealed because tiffany's expertise was in cut stones, 306 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: not in uncut ones. But still, I mean like it's 307 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: like if you're a farmer and you grow corn and 308 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: I bring you baby corn and you're like, oh, that 309 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: looks just like corn. I mean like you've got to 310 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: be able to Parse a couple of these things. I 311 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know, but you know what act 312 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: like you know. That's what tiffany's up in there acting 313 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: like he knows. So the group values the most recent 314 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: bounty brought in at one point five million and then 315 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: officially forms the San Francisco and New York mining and 316 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: commercial company when in doubt form a company. December eight 317 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: seventy one arnold goes back to London. It was like, 318 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: come on, I need somewhere. I'm good. Jumps Dude. He 319 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: spends there between eight thousand and thirty five thousand dollars 320 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: on uncut gems. We know how this is going. To 321 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: come right. I'm wondering, like there's obviously no communication between 322 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: London and New York. That's what surprising me is that 323 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: they're not like they're going over there making a major 324 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: purchase and they don't. None of this is filtering ring 325 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: back across the Atlantic. has either from just well still though, 326 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: a major purchase. I mean like the jewelers. You think 327 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: there'd be some like, you know, price change, like, oh, 328 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: we got a big plant. There's this whale in London constelling, 329 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: buying up jewels. Why don't they come to New York? 330 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: Who are they? Whatever? Good questions. And if they're Americans 331 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: going to London, the Brits would know that. Maybe they 332 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 1: used fake accents. That would be amazing. Do you have 333 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: any diamonds? And then people trying to speak French to 334 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: them and they all UM, okay. So they start this company, 335 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: legal paperworks in place. They decided to take their first 336 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: visit to the diamond field. I mean it makes sense. 337 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 1: You've now created this diamond field. So they hire a 338 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: well respected mining engineer named Henry Jannon to come along 339 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: for the ride. Hop in Henry Jannon, total protogists. Yeah, 340 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: he had inspected hundreds of minds really conservative in his 341 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: assessments as well. So he's like Hurst or like the 342 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: color talks to him. No, I think he's like science 343 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: guy and because he'd done all these conservative assessments so 344 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: that the owners would wind up getting way more than 345 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: a thought out of all of these minds. So it's 346 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:33,959 Speaker 1: like a good guy to come in. He's not going 347 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: to overstate it. He's basically internationally known for being the 348 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: final boss of mine inspection. They bring in the final 349 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: boss Spring of Eighteen, Seventy two, Arnold John Slack, harpending, Asbury, Jannon, 350 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: a general dodge, and then a British acquaintance of harpending's 351 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: named Alfred rubery. They get together in St Louis and 352 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: they head on a train to Wyoming. Now, fun fact 353 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: Asbury and rubery they first met in the United States 354 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: during the civil war. Both were sympathetic to the south. 355 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,479 Speaker 1: They outfitted a schooner in San Francisco Harvard to plunder 356 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: ships for the cause of confederacy. However, that went overwhelm 357 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 1: I bet the San Francisco whalers and gold ships are 358 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: just like, Oh yeah, come with it. So well, they 359 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: could both get arrested and convicted of trees. I was 360 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: going to say that did not last long. Harpending did 361 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: ten years. Well, he was sentenced to ten years in Alcatraz, damn, 362 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: and after four months he was released, though, because Lincoln 363 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: granted amnesty to all political prisoners who would agree to 364 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: take and keep the oath of allegiance. So rubery was 365 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: also sentenced to ten years, also pardoned. So he gets 366 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: by on the whole, mouth towards none. So here we have. 367 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: This is who we're dealing with here. Um Anyway, Arnold 368 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: and slack. They're about to head this group up to 369 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: this spot where they say that they've just been picking gems. Willing, Willy, Um, 370 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: they purposefully take the group on the super roundabout path 371 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: to the field, trying to confuse them about the exact location. Finally, 372 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: on June four, after four long days on horseback, they arrive. 373 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: The group they begin digging. They find gems almost immediately because, yeah, 374 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: there's like everywhere, harpending Asbury. Harpending later writes, quote, I 375 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: had not been on the ground three minutes before I 376 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: found a large diamond. I got off my horse. That 377 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: day we got over five hundred diamonds, rubies sapphires and emeralds. 378 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 1: Arnold would generally tell me where the best places were 379 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: to dig for the gems, the Easter egg where. This 380 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: is right in front of the cage, like, I don't know, 381 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: look under that room. So over the next few days 382 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: the group continues to look successfully surprised gems. Jannen, don't 383 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: forget final bosses. He surveyed three thousand acres, although the 384 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 1: salted area was only like an acre. So he surveys it. 385 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: They head back to San Francisco. They left slack and 386 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: rubery to guard the grounds. Right unknown reasons, who knows 387 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: those two? They bail out after a few days. The 388 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: ones guarding it. Slack, he had been paid his hundred thousand. 389 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: Remember the fifty and then fifty. He was never seen 390 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: by the group again. So smart he's like, I think 391 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: I've gotten as much as I can. I'm going to 392 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: tap out now. So Jannon, though, he submits a report 393 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: of his findings to the group. He estimates the value 394 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: of the company's stock at around forty dollars share and 395 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: the property at least four million. Right. So, as part 396 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: of his deal, Jannen, who just assessed the value of 397 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: the stock, he purchases a thousand shares at ten dollars each. 398 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: He's saying that the shares or forty, but they're going 399 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 1: to let him buy a thousand at ten. Yeah, so 400 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: this is his like payback from the group. It's like 401 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: he gets in on the ground and then he sells him. 402 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: He later sells him. He gets around thirty grand and 403 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: becomes the only non swindler to profit from this scam. Oh, 404 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: I'm glad the honest man made an honest profit. Everyone 405 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: was sure that this diamond field was legit. We know better, Saron, 406 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: do we ever? Yea. So let's listen to some ads. 407 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: Just hear him out, okay, just listen to him and 408 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: when we get back I'm going to tell you what 409 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 1: happened when it's discovered that a gem rich field in 410 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere is in fact to legit to 411 00:25:39,040 --> 00:26:07,959 Speaker 1: quite well, hello, Hey, I'm back. Hey, where was I? Ah, yes, French, yes, okay. 412 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: So it was decided, based on an assessment by legendary 413 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,959 Speaker 1: mining engineer Henry Jannon, that the field was indeed swollen 414 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: with gems, just like a tick, and everything was on 415 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: the up and up. I mean, I was just kind 416 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: of surprised Jannon went for the like. You know, if 417 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: he knows this industry, he knows how rocks are, he 418 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: knows like where you're gonna find gem fields. When you 419 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: go out and you find like diamonds three inches into 420 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: the dirt or maybe just sitting there, lightly custed but 421 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: covered with dust, you have to be like, this is 422 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: not normal. We didn't have to like get out axes 423 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: and cut into yeah, like, where's my Rock Hammer? What Thee? 424 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: Where are the children I can send down this hole? Um? 425 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: So remember Jann and he says the stock in the 426 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: company's worth forty is share and then he buys it 427 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: at ten. Arnold was paid hundred and fifty thousand dollars 428 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: for his fine and then he also got three hundred 429 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: thousand dollars worth of stock right which he sold off. 430 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 1: He sells it to Asbury. In all he makes about 431 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: five hundred fifty thousand dollars. Take away the thirty five 432 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: or to fifty he spent on gems in London. So 433 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: he makes five and fifty thousand dollars in eighteen seventy 434 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: two is something like thirteen point three million dollars today. Damn. 435 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: That's liked by this point the news of the find 436 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: and Jannon's report becomes public. No one knows where the 437 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: land is still and although many tried unsuccessfully to guess 438 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: its location and send their own parties out there to look. 439 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: So people are sneaking around. In the fall of eighteen 440 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: seventy two men from the San Francisco and New York 441 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: mining and commercial company and Jann and they made another 442 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 1: trip to Wyoming to try and secure the land. Hie 443 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: Up loose ends and then they purchased this land. Yet 444 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: I don't think so. Okay, Arnold sides not to join them. 445 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: He's like you guys, go ahead. He's already moved back 446 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: to Kentucky. At this point he's like, you know, I'm 447 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: going home. On the train back to the bay area, 448 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: Jannon runs into two geologists, Samuel Emmons and James Gardner. 449 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,959 Speaker 1: Now those who worked for Clarence King, a recognized geologist 450 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: who some years before had persuaded the US government to 451 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: fund a survey of the land between the rockies and 452 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: the SIERRAS. So this guy, he's got the government looking 453 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: at stuff. He and his team, including Emmans and Gardner, 454 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: surveyed the fifty miles on either side of the parallel. 455 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: So they know this area. They are, you know, they're 456 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: like the final final bosses. They're quite intimate. This is 457 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: like the back of their hand. So emmans and gardener right. 458 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: They suspect that Jannon and his crew are coming from 459 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: the mysterious gem field that everyone's been talking about and 460 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: they wondered if the field was near the land that 461 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: they surveyed. So they asked the group like kind of, 462 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: you know, innocent, innocuous questions. So where are you coming from? 463 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: What did you do there? What longitude and latitude of 464 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: you guys coming from? What was the quality of the 465 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: dirt where you were hanging out? Um, and they're able 466 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: to figure out where the field is based on all 467 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: their secret questions. So then they go back and they 468 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: tell Clarence King, the geologist, final final boss, about this 469 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: encounter they had on the train. King says, you know what, 470 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: let's go look for ourselves. I think I can find 471 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: the land. I want to corroborate Jannon's findings, just, you know, 472 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: academic expertise. A big discovery, but I mean, if you 473 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: think about it, this is a revolutionary thing that there's 474 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: this incredible not just diamonds but rubies and Sapphire, everything 475 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: you can imagine. Just he's like, I want to see this. 476 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: Native population had noticed it in the thousands. They had 477 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: been there. But you know, you know as you do. 478 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: So the group sets out right. They didn't tell anybody 479 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: else about the real purpose of their trip and instead 480 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: they were telling people that they were going to look 481 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: for carboniferous fossils instead of diamonds. That's one of the 482 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: scientific non laws. So they get to Wyoming, they get 483 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: off the train. They continued on for a few days. 484 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: They find the site. Zaren, I want you to close 485 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: your eyes. I was wondering my eyes over here permanently 486 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: open and stuff. Okay, one second. Are Closed. I want 487 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: you to picture it. Yes, the three geologists, Samuel Emmons, 488 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: James Gardner and their boss, Clarence King, stand in Rock Springs, 489 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: Wyoming territory. They've stepped off the train and have secured 490 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: horses for their forty odd mile trip into the desolate distance. 491 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: The Sky is so incredibly vast. Above and before them, 492 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: the hills are like a mustard gold velvet, the shrubs 493 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: and grasses all crisping in the fall air, just waiting 494 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: for that cold ight of winter. The wind howls around 495 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: them as they set off dust swirls. They consult the 496 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: rough map they've drawn up of the approximate location of 497 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: this so called gem field. After a number of days, 498 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: they locate the spot. They tie up their horses, they 499 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: get out their equipment, they begin their search. This is 500 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: a most American moment, people looking at a barren, deserted 501 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: or silently empty landscape before them, hoping beyond hope to 502 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: find fortune where others would just walk on by. But 503 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: these guys are part of a most modern American moment. 504 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: They are the cynics, they're the specialists who want information 505 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: confirmed before they'll believe anything, and these are, unfortunately, the 506 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: very rare Americans. So one of the men stoops over, 507 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: scraping away at this arid soil. He finds gems. The 508 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,959 Speaker 1: other men dig they find the same gems. It seems 509 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: to them that these came right from the ground beneath them, 510 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: the product of Wild Wyoming. They were thrilled, they were surprised. 511 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: They logged their fines into the evening and they bedded 512 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: down for the night. I can only imagine that the 513 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: sky above them, so clear on an autumn evening, was 514 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,719 Speaker 1: just thick with stars, the Milky Way Tucking him in 515 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: the endless night full of diamonds reflecting back to the 516 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: riches that slept underneath them in the dirt. However, looking 517 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: more carefully the next morning, they realized there's kind of 518 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: a pattern to how these gems are distributed. For example, 519 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: this is my favorite. King found a diamond, quote perched 520 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: precariously under a slender rock. So like tossed a diamond 521 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: on the ground that set a rock on top of it. 522 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: Like ya trying to catch a mouse with a diamond, 523 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: you put a little rock. Yes, so they're like how, 524 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: how could this have been like this for hundreds, nay thousands, 525 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: of years? A scientific mystery. And there also seemed to 526 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: be sort of a uniform ratio of one diamond found 527 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: with around a dozen rubies. Yes, are also what I 528 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: imagine is that there is a pathway if you follow it, 529 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: and they kind of are cast from that pathway side. Um, 530 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: they also found gems in ant hills, but they were 531 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: only in the ant hills that had footprints, are disturbed 532 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: dirt near them. So all this dangerous? Well, first of all, 533 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: why would there be in the middle of an ant 534 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: hill wouldn't the ant hill is unearthed. They would move 535 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: the earth around. Yeah, that's part of the earth they'd 536 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: be kicking out anyway. Um, so the geologists they go 537 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: further afield. They dig holes where diamonds should be based 538 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: on what they've been seeing. But the earth is clearly 539 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: undisturbed and they found no diamonds. That's all. So king 540 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: concluded quote summing up the minerals. This rock has produced 541 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: four distinct types of diamond, a few oriental rubies, garnets, spinels, sapphires, 542 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: emeralds and Amethysts, an association enough minerals of impossible occurrence 543 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: in nature, and some mimerals that are only found in India, 544 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: some others only found in Iran. It's very curious. It 545 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: is fascinating. So a few days into their work, a 546 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: man on horseback approaches them. He introduces himself as JF 547 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: Berry from New York City. He'd followed them there and 548 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: been watching them. Creepy the whole time. He's like hiding, 549 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: he's like so he says like hey, you guys found gems. 550 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: Creepy one of them. Let slip that the site is 551 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: a hoax. He's exhausted, he's been digging in ant hills. 552 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: He's like yeah, we found gems and it's all garbage. 553 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: He's nursing his hand blisters. So then, but then they're 554 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: like they get worried that the news is going to 555 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,240 Speaker 1: blow the whole thing wide open and put their colleagues 556 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 1: at risk. So the geologists they high tail it back 557 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: to San Francisco so that they can tell the mining 558 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: and commercial company what they've discovered. More November, seventy two 559 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: they arrived in San Francisco. Now K out of respect, 560 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: first goes to Jannon, not the company. I like that 561 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,240 Speaker 1: night things that in terms of like respect for your colleague. 562 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: That's done because he knows this is going to ruin you. 563 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: Many like man, you may want to go to India 564 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: look for the gems there. So Jannon, at first he 565 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: stands by his findings and he's like no, I you 566 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: know this is I know what I saw. So then 567 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: they talk all night and finally Jannon accepts like he 568 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: was duped. That's got to be hard. You know, people 569 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: get really tired. It's really hard for most people to 570 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: admit mistakes or admit they don't know. It's also really 571 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: hard to use reason and rationality to correct emotions. Those 572 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: are two different languages, so you can't use one to 573 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: usually correct the other. You can use belief to correct emotion, 574 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: but you usually can't use fact to correct emotions. If 575 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 1: he's committed himself to it, he will not be swayed. No, 576 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: and I think that's like, that's a really hard moment. 577 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: I could see how it takes all night to bring 578 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 1: him to that point. Um So, the next morning, King 579 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: and Jannon, they go to the mine and commercial company 580 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: directors and they tell them you have been victims of fraud. 581 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 1: I hate to break it to you. The directors asked 582 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 1: King the geologists to take a few of them out 583 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 1: there with Jannin. Go out to the field they go. 584 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: Now they're seeing it all with new eyes. They have 585 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: all this new information. They're like, Oh my God, how 586 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 1: do we not this is totally a hoax, as there's 587 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: like one gem perched on top of it's in a 588 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: plastic Easter, like, how did this get out her? We 589 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: don't have plastic yet. Um So, the newly hired general 590 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: manager of the company said he saw ruby scattered in 591 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,919 Speaker 1: such a way that, quote, it would have been impossible 592 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: for nature to have deposited them. As for a person 593 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: standing in San Francisco to toss a marble in the 594 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: air and have it fall on the Bunker Hill monument right, 595 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,439 Speaker 1: he's painting a beautiful picture. So the directors like, raise 596 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: your hand if you want to dissolve the company. All 597 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 1: the hands went up. Some people raised two hands and 598 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: a foot. So Arnold and slack they get indicted for 599 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: fraud by a grand jury. Case never goes to trial. 600 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: They indicted in mcentia but they never went to trial. 601 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 1: Arnold gets sued by William lent remember, he was the 602 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 1: big investor in the comstock load, the big money man. 603 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: They settled out of court for a hundred and fifty 604 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: thousand dollars, though he said Um he paid. Arnold says 605 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: he paid not because he was guilty but because the 606 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: lawsuit was time consuming and he wanted to move on 607 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: with his life and he was tired of the Pinkerton's harassing. 608 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 1: He's like here's your one fifty boring A. I'm onto 609 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: greener pastors. You guys. Back in Kentucky Arnold had bought 610 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 1: a house, obviously from the money he made the hoax. 611 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 1: The House had marble fireplaces, had really crazy, chandeliers, high ceilings, 612 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: beautiful wallpapers, always very nice, good touch. To this day 613 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,479 Speaker 1: there are locals who are convinced that there are still 614 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,800 Speaker 1: diamonds buried in the basement a house. Such a typical 615 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: local Lord exactly. You know, there are kids who like 616 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: stare from the bushes of the he also bought five 617 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: acres in his wife's name where he bred thoroughbred horses 618 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: and he raised sheep. There's a real wealth in this story. 619 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 1: We know about the Horse Trade. There he invested in 620 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 1: real estate, became a banker. He became what he was 621 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: trying to take down. Um in the spring of eighteen 622 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: seventy eight, he was in dispute with another banker, but 623 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,240 Speaker 1: that banker had insulted Arnold in a letter, doubting his trust, 624 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,720 Speaker 1: trustworthiness because of the possible involvement in the diamond hoax. 625 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: There was a shootout and Arnold was hit in the shoulder. 626 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 1: It did not kill him, but in the winter of 627 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: eighteen seventy nine he caught pneumonia and he died in 628 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: the hospital in February eight. So was that like a 629 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:55,399 Speaker 1: Kentucky Colonel Duel like so I write in a letter. 630 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 1: So you insulted me and I think you're a fraud, 631 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: and drop a white glove and you smell like dukie 632 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: and he's like, well, I never and then so what 633 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 1: about slack? What about John? After abandoning his duty guarding 634 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 1: the field, slack went to St Louis. He worked. What 635 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: would you do if you had the money that he had? 636 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: You bailed out on guarding the supposed diamond field. You 637 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 1: go to St Louis. What would you do? M Go 638 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: to St Louis late eighteen hundreds by a stockyard. He 639 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: worked as a carpenter at a coffin company. What not 640 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: in my top one choices. And then he eventually became 641 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: president there he worked his wing did I'm not kidding. 642 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 1: Then he goes to New Mexico and the job he 643 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: had in New Mexico was adjacent. He became an undertaker. 644 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: Now he didn't get into the Topaz business. No, he 645 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: became an undertaker. He died in eighteen ninety six, at 646 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: the age of seventy six. So Arnold pretty much pulled 647 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: it off. Slack would have too, but he cut and 648 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: ran and wound up doing a lot of death work. 649 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: He still had a little bit that Szaren, what is 650 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: your ridiculous takeaway here, Oh man, Um, one that rich 651 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,479 Speaker 1: people are easy to scam, especially if you can tell 652 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: them that you're dumb. You know, I just don't know 653 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 1: these things, but a big, strong, strap and gentleman such 654 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 1: as yourself, you probably could. You know, like you play 655 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: that up, but like, in terms of finances, I think 656 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna go. They'RE gonna go for it, and this 657 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: apparently has been true for aons. I mean, you can 658 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: just goes back. You know, this is exactly the thing 659 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: that we saw in the DOT com boom. This was 660 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 1: the thing that you see in real estate scams. Is 661 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 1: the thing you saw in l a, the Owens Valley River, 662 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 1: I mean like everywhere you go you will see this, 663 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 1: like somebody comes along necks like, I just don't know 664 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: what to do, and then they scam these rich people 665 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: who are so certain. So usually, I mean it's the 666 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,399 Speaker 1: it's the traditional act of the confidence artists. They work 667 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 1: on your confidence. So it's it's a flawless scheme. I'm 668 00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 1: just so surprised that these people who, you know, they 669 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 1: know money, they know wealth, but they don't know anything 670 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: about jewels or gems and they don't stop to think. 671 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: So I'm just struck by how many times they had 672 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: to go out there with experts before they could actually 673 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: see the truth, because they're so convinced by what they 674 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: wanted to believe. But they think they're pulling a scam 675 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 1: to what I'm saying. So they're like, oh, we're getting 676 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 1: one over on them. So they're so busy thinking about 677 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 1: the scam that they don't actually check their own beliefs. 678 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 1: Their scam is based on a faulty belief, but there's 679 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 1: nobody looking at the greed that they don't check that. 680 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 1: I'm like that's the parts. That's ridiculous. I'm like, come 681 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: on now, how did you get wealthy? Right, well, I 682 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 1: said it earlier about that being the most American moment. 683 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 1: You know, when Americans are at their best, at their 684 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: most sort of Whitman esque, they see possibility everywhere. They're 685 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:46,359 Speaker 1: expansive in thought, they're curious, adventurous. Yeah, they don't get 686 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 1: sidetracked by the like base animal tribalism of wanting to 687 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 1: just be with people that look and think and sound 688 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 1: and believe like they do right or do things in 689 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: the old way. Yeah, they're open, they're eager. Life is vast, 690 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: it's exciting, it's full of possibility. That's the America, that's 691 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:06,919 Speaker 1: the dream America, the sort of fiction. So in this 692 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,720 Speaker 1: story we have like the sad underbelly of that moment. 693 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 1: That's the one driven by greed. I I like Arnold 694 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: and slack, right. So they used the big wigs greed 695 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: against them, the bank owners, the mining magnets. They're so 696 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,320 Speaker 1: eager to get money off the backs of individual miners, 697 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 1: just like they've been doing. It's what made them so 698 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: unbelievably wealthy. I mean, like it is so hard to 699 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 1: comprehend how much money these guys got, all the like 700 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 1: the big four, all the railroad barons, everything, like you 701 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: talked about that with old billy minor, the train robber. Right. 702 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,280 Speaker 1: So the fat cats in this case, they didn't think critically, 703 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 1: like you said. They never asked. They thought greedily and 704 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: then they acted in haste because they're so quick to 705 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,399 Speaker 1: take advantage of Arnold and slack and, as I used 706 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 1: to exploiting people, and they see someone and they go 707 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: a quick read. It's like, Oh, we can exploit this person. Yeah, well, surprise. 708 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 1: So once again I'm not being too critical the criminals 709 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 1: here at all. No one was hurt or killed. Are 710 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 1: My favorite. They just lightened the pockets some fat cat 711 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 1: and then the cool scientists cracked the case, that they 712 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 1: got out there and actually like, Oh hey, let's just 713 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 1: go walk this and see what we find. Yeah, and 714 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,359 Speaker 1: I think those are like the true winners here, even 715 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,359 Speaker 1: that they walked away with no money. They won. They 716 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,839 Speaker 1: beat them, they beat everything. That's it. That's all I have. 717 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 1: Thank you. You can find US online at ridiculous crime 718 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 1: on both twitter and instagram. Got A tip for us 719 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: about a ridiculous crime you want to hear about? 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