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Speaker 1: And Huddle is a production of the NFL in partnership

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. What's Up, Everybody? Welcome into the inaugural episode

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Speaker 1: of Hell Huddle alongside m J. I cost about I

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Speaker 1: am merely merely Will Selva MJ. We did it computer troubles.

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Speaker 1: I have been wanting this to happen. Literally before the

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Speaker 1: launch of this podcast, had massive computer problems needed. Uh

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Speaker 1: what is it? The geek squad? I needed you name

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Speaker 1: it just to get this thing launched. Just beforehand too.

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Speaker 1: Never had a computer issue until the launch of the podcast.

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Speaker 1: It never fails. But one thing about us will We're resilient.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna make it work. We're gonna figure out a way. Yes,

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Speaker 1: yes we do. We figure out We find a way. Um,

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Speaker 1: I find I found a way to get this show launched.

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Speaker 1: I've been thinking about it for a year and this

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Speaker 1: is going to be a podcast that is going to

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Speaker 1: reflect us. We are part of this very diverse Latino

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Speaker 1: fan base of the NFL. You and I we learn

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Speaker 1: to speak Spanish, first first generation. A lot of our

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Speaker 1: fans the NFL, they are just as diverse. We are

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Speaker 1: a kaleidoscope tapestry colors, sizes, shapes the whole thing. And

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Speaker 1: I know that you're proud. I'm proud, and on this program,

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Speaker 1: we want to reach this audience and hine is we

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Speaker 1: like to say, right, and I think we will, you know,

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Speaker 1: in talking to those Latino voices that cover the game

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Speaker 1: part of the game, and we're gonna get a chance

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Speaker 1: to talk you know, pop culture or music, fashion, some

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Speaker 1: of my impressions will be in there as well my

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Speaker 1: favorite right, thank you audience of one hopefully more. But

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Speaker 1: you know, we really just want to connect because I

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Speaker 1: know that was something that you and I talked about

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Speaker 1: and we wanted it to make it happen. And here

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Speaker 1: we are. It is happening. And the best part, I

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Speaker 1: think is I really want people to know how this

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Speaker 1: came together. Again. Will has been sort of this is

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Speaker 1: his brainchild of the past year trying to put this together,

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Speaker 1: and he literally stopped me in the hallway. I think

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Speaker 1: it was like coming out of the bathroom at NFL

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Speaker 1: Media and said, hey, EDMANA we got to do this.

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Speaker 1: There's this podcast we're trying to put together. Are you

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Speaker 1: in And I said, say less, let's get this going.

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Speaker 1: And now here we are. I mean, it's it's so

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Speaker 1: exciting to see it actually happening. There's no turning back now,

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Speaker 1: will we go? No, no, bamanos, Let's do this. Let's

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Speaker 1: get down to it. Let's get down to business, because

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Speaker 1: a lot, a lot has happened. We're starting week six

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Speaker 1: of the NFL, and of course we've been keeping tabswell

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Speaker 1: and you and I have been having our own little

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Speaker 1: side chats, text message back and forth. I just came

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Speaker 1: back from the London Games. There's still one more left

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Speaker 1: in London before we head over to Munich. So a

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Speaker 1: lot of things happening, the Packers taking a loss over there.

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Speaker 1: One of the big pieces missing from that office offense

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Speaker 1: DeVante Adams now with the Raiders. DeVante made pretty big

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Speaker 1: headlines this week, of course, after that Raider's loss to

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs. You saw him leaving the field, going into

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Speaker 1: and DeVante shoved him there. And now there are misdemeanor

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Speaker 1: assault charges that have been filed for pushing that cameraman.

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Speaker 1: This is intense and there's so many layers to it.

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Speaker 1: Will Initially, I think we all saw it and we said,

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Speaker 1: sparked when he and Hunter Renfro had collided and then

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Speaker 1: he threw his helmet. And you and I have been

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Speaker 1: And it just happened that this, this credentialed media member

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Speaker 1: But he got into the locker room and he apologized

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Speaker 1: MJ's there's a lot This is such a big conversation

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Speaker 1: it was definitely a shock, like whoa tay, what are

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Speaker 1: you doing? Especially if you ever interacted with Davante and

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Speaker 1: you know he's not a bully, Like he's not a

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Speaker 1: speak for this person. I wasn't there. I didn't get

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Speaker 1: pushed to the ground, right, So it's not my person's

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Speaker 1: nat how he feels about the situation. But it feels

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Speaker 1: to me like an over overcorrection of the situation. It's

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Speaker 1: not like he was pinpointed like you, I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: no better time for a bye week for the Raiders

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Speaker 1: little interesting back and forth over Twitter between OBJ and

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Speaker 1: free agent? Right? Yeah? But you know what though, you

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Speaker 1: We also had a chance to speak with von Miller

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Speaker 1: so OBJ. He has been going to the Saint Sees,

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Speaker 1: already a week longer. Right. Oh see, that's what we

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Speaker 1: the end of the play. Right, that's the strategy that

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Speaker 1: I am still of the mindset that the Bills are

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Speaker 1: for me. I'm watching Dak. Remember initially Jerry Jones like

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Speaker 1: the thing is like with Dak, I don't think I've

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Speaker 1: over the past two weeks. There's something about Grip's strength, right,

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Speaker 1: needs to spin that ballpression and and he is sponsored

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Speaker 1: by a Stamp song by the way, so um um,

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Speaker 1: to prepare for for an NFL team and you're not wrong,

420
00:25:28,966 --> 00:25:33,726
Speaker 1: will barely not wrong. I get it, I got it.

421
00:25:34,006 --> 00:25:37,406
Speaker 1: But on the other end of the spectrum, there's somebody

422
00:25:37,406 --> 00:25:42,006
Speaker 1: you're definitely watching to be your procho. Yeah, so so

423
00:25:42,446 --> 00:25:45,966
Speaker 1: bero Macho. That is something in Nicaragua that my mom

424
00:25:46,046 --> 00:25:49,606
Speaker 1: had said, like Macho, we talked about like he's got

425
00:25:49,606 --> 00:25:52,246
Speaker 1: that dog in them. That was really a pro macho

426
00:25:52,686 --> 00:25:56,566
Speaker 1: in Nicaraguay. You know, um a little inebriated when that

427
00:25:56,646 --> 00:26:02,606
Speaker 1: was said. He said, like, ah, you know, so uh

428
00:26:02,726 --> 00:26:06,286
Speaker 1: that aside, So that's that's where Perromatra comes from. For me,

429
00:26:06,326 --> 00:26:09,966
Speaker 1: it's Jalen Hurts. We touched upon it before with the

430
00:26:10,046 --> 00:26:13,366
Speaker 1: Cowboys and the Eagles. I think watching his development has

431
00:26:13,406 --> 00:26:15,886
Speaker 1: been so much fun just to see how he now

432
00:26:15,926 --> 00:26:20,846
Speaker 1: has just tremendous anticipation, sees the receivers they're coming out

433
00:26:20,886 --> 00:26:23,846
Speaker 1: of break and just delivers the ball like that and

434
00:26:23,926 --> 00:26:26,726
Speaker 1: before you would wait for guys to be open. And

435
00:26:26,846 --> 00:26:30,606
Speaker 1: I think this Sunday night game against the Cowboys will

436
00:26:30,686 --> 00:26:34,806
Speaker 1: maybe cement his MVP candidacy. And I also think m J.

437
00:26:35,286 --> 00:26:38,846
Speaker 1: I also think that if he wins, this is gonna

438
00:26:38,846 --> 00:26:41,606
Speaker 1: be a signature one for him. And I think then

439
00:26:41,646 --> 00:26:43,886
Speaker 1: the Eagles will say, you know what, we've got our

440
00:26:43,966 --> 00:26:48,846
Speaker 1: quarterback who who? That's big praison. You know who would

441
00:26:48,846 --> 00:26:52,766
Speaker 1: agree with you? Jalen Hurts the entire Eagles nation. I

442
00:26:52,846 --> 00:26:56,366
Speaker 1: love that. No, he's he's been superb all season long.

443
00:26:56,446 --> 00:26:59,206
Speaker 1: And I love it because he even gave a little

444
00:26:59,286 --> 00:27:02,086
Speaker 1: dig at the local media like, no, no no, you don't

445
00:27:02,126 --> 00:27:03,886
Speaker 1: want to talk to us when we had a losing record,

446
00:27:03,926 --> 00:27:05,766
Speaker 1: don't talk to us now that we're undefeated. And remember

447
00:27:05,766 --> 00:27:08,926
Speaker 1: when they were so quick first season in jail is

448
00:27:08,926 --> 00:27:11,726
Speaker 1: not the answer. Get him out of here. Now. What's

449
00:27:11,806 --> 00:27:16,486
Speaker 1: up though? What's up? Yeah? Yeah, And he's totally um

450
00:27:16,646 --> 00:27:19,646
Speaker 1: and he's totally a leader. Everybody's rallied around him. So

451
00:27:19,926 --> 00:27:23,926
Speaker 1: big big fan perromacha from him. Um. You know. The

452
00:27:23,966 --> 00:27:27,326
Speaker 1: other thing that that I love with working with you

453
00:27:27,446 --> 00:27:29,406
Speaker 1: is your name is MJ. And we're gonna have to

454
00:27:29,446 --> 00:27:31,966
Speaker 1: get into this at some point in time about your

455
00:27:32,046 --> 00:27:35,326
Speaker 1: name and my name. I've got some some takes on

456
00:27:35,406 --> 00:27:38,326
Speaker 1: my name, um, and I'm curious about yours, but we'll

457
00:27:38,326 --> 00:27:41,126
Speaker 1: do that at a later pot. But I think MJ.

458
00:27:41,486 --> 00:27:44,286
Speaker 1: I think you, and I think Michael Jordan. All I

459
00:27:44,326 --> 00:27:50,046
Speaker 1: think Michael Jackson. MJ means greatness to me. So being

460
00:27:50,086 --> 00:27:54,886
Speaker 1: as great as you are, who is your MJ. Who

461
00:27:55,086 --> 00:27:57,806
Speaker 1: is the one that you're gonna be looking at this

462
00:27:57,886 --> 00:28:01,646
Speaker 1: week that you say, ah, they can match me Michael

463
00:28:01,686 --> 00:28:05,966
Speaker 1: Jordan and Michael Jackson, you know, And this might not

464
00:28:06,046 --> 00:28:09,766
Speaker 1: be a name that people are expecting. Gino Smith go

465
00:28:09,846 --> 00:28:14,366
Speaker 1: on out there and have a day. He was the

466
00:28:14,606 --> 00:28:18,686
Speaker 1: NFC Offensive Player of the Week. He's been doing his

467
00:28:18,846 --> 00:28:22,646
Speaker 1: job lighting it up. And remember when Russell left Seattle,

468
00:28:22,886 --> 00:28:26,046
Speaker 1: all of us were thinking, hey, Pete, you're gonna bring

469
00:28:26,046 --> 00:28:28,566
Speaker 1: in another guy? Oh no, it's either gonna be Drew Locker,

470
00:28:28,606 --> 00:28:30,606
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Gino Smith. And then Gino was named

471
00:28:30,646 --> 00:28:33,926
Speaker 1: the starter and everyone was like, oh, are you sure

472
00:28:33,966 --> 00:28:36,726
Speaker 1: about that? We talked about this on Total Access earlier

473
00:28:36,766 --> 00:28:39,166
Speaker 1: this week. How smart does Pete Carroll look? Right now?

474
00:28:39,326 --> 00:28:41,166
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm sorry, what was that? What's going on?

475
00:28:41,446 --> 00:28:44,126
Speaker 1: What's going on with Gino? What I hope is that

476
00:28:44,166 --> 00:28:46,526
Speaker 1: he keeps this going. What I always want to see

477
00:28:46,526 --> 00:28:49,126
Speaker 1: from him is that consistency. This is your moment. R.

478
00:28:49,886 --> 00:28:52,606
Speaker 1: How many guys get a chance after being a backup

479
00:28:52,606 --> 00:28:55,126
Speaker 1: to be the starter and then play the way that

480
00:28:55,126 --> 00:28:58,206
Speaker 1: he has for a team that was so overlooked this season.

481
00:28:58,246 --> 00:29:00,246
Speaker 1: Everybody said, you know what, the Seahawks are done. They

482
00:29:00,326 --> 00:29:02,646
Speaker 1: still got a lot of work to do. But Gino

483
00:29:02,806 --> 00:29:06,606
Speaker 1: have a day, Man, have a day. Jano Smith? Yeah,

484
00:29:06,726 --> 00:29:09,366
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna say Packard Patrick mahomes. Um.

485
00:29:09,926 --> 00:29:11,766
Speaker 1: I think that we have a really good Um, we

486
00:29:11,846 --> 00:29:14,286
Speaker 1: have a good offense. I think me and Travis, I mean,

487
00:29:14,326 --> 00:29:16,446
Speaker 1: I think we're really good and uh, you know a

488
00:29:16,566 --> 00:29:20,046
Speaker 1: coach read I think I I'm m Jay. I think

489
00:29:20,046 --> 00:29:22,726
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna get over again, uh and make it

490
00:29:22,806 --> 00:29:27,046
Speaker 1: one and four for uh, for Josh Allen. Uh. I

491
00:29:27,086 --> 00:29:29,166
Speaker 1: think that we have what it takes. We don't need Tyreed.

492
00:29:30,166 --> 00:29:32,246
Speaker 1: I just want everybody to know. These are the first

493
00:29:32,246 --> 00:29:34,926
Speaker 1: times I'm hearing except for the Jerry Jones impression. So

494
00:29:34,966 --> 00:29:38,766
Speaker 1: this is in real time reaction. That's phenomenon. I change

495
00:29:38,806 --> 00:29:41,166
Speaker 1: my greatness, I change it to you and the impressions,

496
00:29:41,166 --> 00:29:59,086
Speaker 1: Oh my god. And this is how you kick off

497
00:29:59,206 --> 00:30:01,446
Speaker 1: a huddle. We got a chance to sit down with

498
00:30:01,686 --> 00:30:04,686
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Tony Gonzalez as he gets ready for

499
00:30:04,886 --> 00:30:08,086
Speaker 1: another week of Thursday Night football. All right, a very

500
00:30:08,326 --> 00:30:12,846
Speaker 1: very huge and huddle. Welcome to Hall of Famer, one

501
00:30:12,886 --> 00:30:16,526
Speaker 1: of the best to ever do it, Tony Gonzalez joining us. Tony,

502
00:30:16,566 --> 00:30:19,046
Speaker 1: thank you, oh well, thank you for having me. I

503
00:30:19,086 --> 00:30:22,726
Speaker 1: appreciate it. You know you've done it all, my friend,

504
00:30:23,006 --> 00:30:25,886
Speaker 1: a master of the game in the NFL Hall of Famer,

505
00:30:26,046 --> 00:30:31,486
Speaker 1: excellent broadcaster and alice and excellent actor as well. By

506
00:30:31,486 --> 00:30:34,326
Speaker 1: the way, I just saw you in MVP with Nate

507
00:30:34,406 --> 00:30:37,366
Speaker 1: Boyer's film, which is very close to my heart. My

508
00:30:37,446 --> 00:30:40,526
Speaker 1: husband is actually part of the Merging Vets and Players organization.

509
00:30:40,886 --> 00:30:44,406
Speaker 1: It was phenomenal. I wanted to ask you quickly on

510
00:30:44,406 --> 00:30:46,766
Speaker 1: that as we got going here, how it was not

511
00:30:46,886 --> 00:30:49,806
Speaker 1: just knowing the organization, but then creating this film with

512
00:30:49,886 --> 00:30:52,326
Speaker 1: Nate Boyer. For those who don't know, merging Vets and

513
00:30:52,326 --> 00:30:55,406
Speaker 1: Players as an organization that brings together former athletes and

514
00:30:55,486 --> 00:30:58,166
Speaker 1: former service members sort of bridge that gap in that

515
00:30:58,206 --> 00:31:01,766
Speaker 1: familiarity of life after the uniform. Yeah, well, you know,

516
00:31:01,886 --> 00:31:05,166
Speaker 1: it's it's tough. It's tough when you leave the NFL.

517
00:31:05,246 --> 00:31:09,166
Speaker 1: Obviously I can't speak from a military perspective, but I

518
00:31:09,246 --> 00:31:12,086
Speaker 1: know that's part of what the group is. It's it's

519
00:31:12,166 --> 00:31:15,406
Speaker 1: it's saying, hey, you've done something your whole life, and

520
00:31:15,486 --> 00:31:18,406
Speaker 1: now it's gone, and it's over, and you've been through

521
00:31:18,446 --> 00:31:22,206
Speaker 1: so much with it, and you get depressed. You get

522
00:31:22,246 --> 00:31:25,326
Speaker 1: feelings of loneliness, you get you get you know, feelings

523
00:31:25,326 --> 00:31:27,206
Speaker 1: of being vulnerable. You're like, what do I do now?

524
00:31:27,246 --> 00:31:29,846
Speaker 1: How do how do I make this work? And uh?

525
00:31:30,246 --> 00:31:35,166
Speaker 1: And obviously the military guys they've seen some atrocities, uh sometimes,

526
00:31:35,246 --> 00:31:38,926
Speaker 1: and so it's it's all about bringing us together and

527
00:31:39,046 --> 00:31:44,126
Speaker 1: telling our stories and and helping each other through that process. Okay,

528
00:31:44,206 --> 00:31:46,286
Speaker 1: of turning that page and going to the next chapter

529
00:31:46,326 --> 00:31:48,166
Speaker 1: in life. And so that's kind of what the that's

530
00:31:48,166 --> 00:31:51,126
Speaker 1: what the movie was about that Nate did and uh,

531
00:31:51,166 --> 00:31:53,126
Speaker 1: you know, they did it at we shot the scenes

532
00:31:53,126 --> 00:31:56,446
Speaker 1: that Unbreakable. Unbreakable is a gem owned by Jake Glazer

533
00:31:56,766 --> 00:31:59,366
Speaker 1: and he's a big proponent of of bringing the guys together.

534
00:31:59,566 --> 00:32:03,446
Speaker 1: So it's just a really really cool intense organizations. They

535
00:32:03,446 --> 00:32:05,486
Speaker 1: come together, they work out, and then and then they

536
00:32:05,486 --> 00:32:07,846
Speaker 1: sit in a circle, which was was showed in the movie.

537
00:32:07,926 --> 00:32:10,886
Speaker 1: All that stuff is real, that happens. Obviously we're acting

538
00:32:10,926 --> 00:32:13,366
Speaker 1: in the movie, but that stuff goes on all the time,

539
00:32:13,366 --> 00:32:16,526
Speaker 1: and it's such it's it's it's so beneficial to our

540
00:32:16,566 --> 00:32:19,446
Speaker 1: psyche as players and and and guys that have left

541
00:32:19,486 --> 00:32:21,046
Speaker 1: the military. And now I have to figure out, Okay,

542
00:32:21,086 --> 00:32:24,686
Speaker 1: what's next. You know, Tony, this is quite the departure

543
00:32:24,926 --> 00:32:29,486
Speaker 1: from uh Triple X the return of Xander Cage. Uh

544
00:32:29,806 --> 00:32:33,086
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you have this career

545
00:32:33,646 --> 00:32:35,886
Speaker 1: or even able to do different things. I know you

546
00:32:35,926 --> 00:32:39,006
Speaker 1: want to do more when it comes to your acting career. Yeah,

547
00:32:39,006 --> 00:32:42,286
Speaker 1: I do. I do. I shot a show last year

548
00:32:42,366 --> 00:32:45,886
Speaker 1: called Long Slow Exhale. I did eight episodes of that.

549
00:32:46,286 --> 00:32:50,166
Speaker 1: I just shot a movie called Fantasy Football. Uh with

550
00:32:50,446 --> 00:32:54,286
Speaker 1: Omari from from From Power if people know him. Uh,

551
00:32:54,366 --> 00:32:56,486
Speaker 1: it's a great movie. Yeah, yeah, the NFL is all

552
00:32:56,526 --> 00:32:58,366
Speaker 1: behind it. Tony Romo and Jim NaNs are in there

553
00:32:58,406 --> 00:33:01,926
Speaker 1: during the commentaries. Really cute Nickelodeon Paramount Plus movie. I

554
00:33:01,926 --> 00:33:04,446
Speaker 1: play a coach, uh, and you know, I'm just doing

555
00:33:04,446 --> 00:33:07,246
Speaker 1: things like whatever I can get my hands on, I'll

556
00:33:07,406 --> 00:33:09,046
Speaker 1: do it because I love acting. It's such a It

557
00:33:09,166 --> 00:33:11,326
Speaker 1: reminds me of football a lot in that sense, like

558
00:33:11,326 --> 00:33:13,446
Speaker 1: you learn your lines like you learn your plays, and

559
00:33:13,486 --> 00:33:15,366
Speaker 1: then when you go out there, you got to you

560
00:33:15,366 --> 00:33:17,486
Speaker 1: gotta let go. You can't be worried about what happened

561
00:33:17,486 --> 00:33:19,806
Speaker 1: before or what happened after. It's so in the moment,

562
00:33:20,446 --> 00:33:22,846
Speaker 1: kind of like live television with broadcasting too. I like

563
00:33:22,966 --> 00:33:25,686
Speaker 1: those moments that make me extremely uncomfortable that you like,

564
00:33:25,806 --> 00:33:28,206
Speaker 1: you better do it or you're gonna get made fun of.

565
00:33:28,246 --> 00:33:31,726
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. Well, I mean we know, yeah,

566
00:33:31,766 --> 00:33:34,006
Speaker 1: no question, and you are a little bit uncomfortable and

567
00:33:34,086 --> 00:33:38,046
Speaker 1: maybe just cold. On TNF over in Kansas City a

568
00:33:38,086 --> 00:33:40,126
Speaker 1: couple of weeks back. I feel that I can't be

569
00:33:40,206 --> 00:33:42,966
Speaker 1: in anything that's below sixty degrees or like my fingers

570
00:33:42,966 --> 00:33:46,646
Speaker 1: are done done wrap for me. But other than the

571
00:33:46,726 --> 00:33:49,246
Speaker 1: cold weather, and we know that's something that's just sort

572
00:33:49,246 --> 00:33:51,446
Speaker 1: of part of the gig. How has it been with

573
00:33:51,486 --> 00:33:54,246
Speaker 1: this new TNF crew? I mean Sherm and Fits and Caissa,

574
00:33:54,286 --> 00:33:56,966
Speaker 1: who's phenomenal. I mean, it's a cast of thousands out there.

575
00:33:57,126 --> 00:33:59,686
Speaker 1: We've really enjoyed watching it on Prime video. How has

576
00:33:59,686 --> 00:34:01,686
Speaker 1: it been for you now that you guys are off

577
00:34:01,686 --> 00:34:04,606
Speaker 1: and running. Oh, it couldn't be going better. You know

578
00:34:04,806 --> 00:34:07,286
Speaker 1: the beginning when they're like, hey, you got Richard Sherman,

579
00:34:07,326 --> 00:34:10,566
Speaker 1: and Ryan Fitzpatrick and Andrew Whitworth. These guys, first of all,

580
00:34:10,566 --> 00:34:13,086
Speaker 1: they're fresh off the field, so everybody knows them from

581
00:34:13,086 --> 00:34:16,166
Speaker 1: their playing days. And you know what, you always get

582
00:34:16,206 --> 00:34:18,486
Speaker 1: a little uncomfortable because I remember I did the same thing. Obviously,

583
00:34:18,526 --> 00:34:21,286
Speaker 1: I retired. I went right into television. I think these

584
00:34:21,366 --> 00:34:23,886
Speaker 1: young guys, I call them young, they're they're older now,

585
00:34:24,086 --> 00:34:27,086
Speaker 1: but they have an advantage because when I came into

586
00:34:27,086 --> 00:34:29,566
Speaker 1: the league, if they put a microphone in your face,

587
00:34:29,726 --> 00:34:32,046
Speaker 1: the coach was always like, shut up, don't say anything.

588
00:34:32,326 --> 00:34:34,846
Speaker 1: We don't talk too much, you know, And I think

589
00:34:34,886 --> 00:34:38,006
Speaker 1: nowadays with social media and you saw Richard when he

590
00:34:38,086 --> 00:34:40,246
Speaker 1: was playing, and Ryan the same thing. Like these guys

591
00:34:40,246 --> 00:34:42,286
Speaker 1: were out there, they didn't care like they were dressing

592
00:34:42,366 --> 00:34:46,606
Speaker 1: up in costumes. Obviously Ryan had his chains and the

593
00:34:46,926 --> 00:34:49,726
Speaker 1: beard and a stuff. These guys are coming in TV ready,

594
00:34:49,766 --> 00:34:51,526
Speaker 1: which is what you have to have where you cannot

595
00:34:51,606 --> 00:34:53,806
Speaker 1: worry about what anybody else thinks and you have to

596
00:34:53,886 --> 00:34:56,446
Speaker 1: just go. And these guys have been phenomenal. And then

597
00:34:56,446 --> 00:34:59,606
Speaker 1: we have obviously Chris and Thompson. She's she's my sister,

598
00:34:59,726 --> 00:35:03,646
Speaker 1: like she's she's the best, just making everybody comfortable guiding

599
00:35:03,686 --> 00:35:06,046
Speaker 1: the desk and it's but couldn't ask for a better team.

600
00:35:06,126 --> 00:35:09,286
Speaker 1: And I think the other thing too, is, uh, are

601
00:35:09,366 --> 00:35:12,286
Speaker 1: we have no ego? That was that was Look if

602
00:35:12,326 --> 00:35:14,806
Speaker 1: we can disagree with each other, but we'll do it respectfully.

603
00:35:14,926 --> 00:35:17,206
Speaker 1: But the name of the game here, let's have some fun.

604
00:35:17,406 --> 00:35:20,246
Speaker 1: If if it's like we have a drink on that desk,

605
00:35:20,286 --> 00:35:22,006
Speaker 1: but we don't have a drink, But that's what it

606
00:35:22,046 --> 00:35:26,326
Speaker 1: is like, it's us having a conver where do you

607
00:35:26,366 --> 00:35:28,846
Speaker 1: have it? Where's the stash? It's okay that underneath I

608
00:35:28,846 --> 00:35:33,166
Speaker 1: got my little Well, it looks like you guys do

609
00:35:33,286 --> 00:35:36,526
Speaker 1: have a lot of fun. And I look at Fitzpatrick

610
00:35:36,686 --> 00:35:39,846
Speaker 1: and how he dresses. Sometimes I think he's Alan from

611
00:35:39,846 --> 00:35:41,966
Speaker 1: the hangover and he's gonna bust out, Like you know,

612
00:35:42,086 --> 00:35:44,606
Speaker 1: we are the three best friends we've ever had, were

613
00:35:44,646 --> 00:35:47,006
Speaker 1: the three pass friends we've ever had. Like he feels

614
00:35:47,046 --> 00:35:51,406
Speaker 1: like the zach Alfinachus of the group. Is he yes?

615
00:35:51,486 --> 00:35:55,126
Speaker 1: He yes, he's a funny guy. Yes, okay, absolutely, these

616
00:35:55,126 --> 00:35:59,926
Speaker 1: guys are really smart too. I mean, Richard's a Stanford

617
00:35:59,926 --> 00:36:05,006
Speaker 1: graduate and Mind's a Harvard graduate. LS you graduate it.

618
00:36:05,046 --> 00:36:07,566
Speaker 1: I can make fun of him though, because LSU. But

619
00:36:08,446 --> 00:36:10,686
Speaker 1: I I'm the only one who didn't graduate. Put it

620
00:36:10,686 --> 00:36:12,326
Speaker 1: that way. I'm the dumb one on the desk stopping.

621
00:36:13,846 --> 00:36:18,326
Speaker 1: I went to Berkeley, but I never graduate. I love it.

622
00:36:18,646 --> 00:36:20,846
Speaker 1: What have been some of the observations from let's start

623
00:36:20,886 --> 00:36:25,086
Speaker 1: with your former teams Kansas City, Atlanta, UM, and just

624
00:36:25,206 --> 00:36:28,886
Speaker 1: how this year has been unfolding already, because through several

625
00:36:28,926 --> 00:36:32,326
Speaker 1: weeks it's still a little hazy on on who's going

626
00:36:32,406 --> 00:36:34,606
Speaker 1: to run with it and which conference is actually stronger.

627
00:36:34,646 --> 00:36:37,366
Speaker 1: What we thought was real wasn't in a lot of

628
00:36:37,406 --> 00:36:40,126
Speaker 1: these aspects. Let's start with the chiefs. Well, the chiefs

629
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Speaker 1: obviously Tyreek Hill, That's that's the big story losing him.

630
00:36:43,766 --> 00:36:45,446
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? How are you gonna make

631
00:36:45,446 --> 00:36:48,406
Speaker 1: it work without him? And you bring a couple new

632
00:36:48,446 --> 00:36:51,126
Speaker 1: receivers juju, And when you have a guy like like

633
00:36:51,206 --> 00:36:55,806
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, a generational player, that's the luxury you have.

634
00:36:55,886 --> 00:36:57,526
Speaker 1: It's kind of like with Aaron Rodgers. You've seen all

635
00:36:57,526 --> 00:36:59,646
Speaker 1: those years where Okay, we don't need first round picks

636
00:36:59,686 --> 00:37:01,646
Speaker 1: to surround him because he's so great. He's gonna make

637
00:37:01,646 --> 00:37:04,006
Speaker 1: everybody else around him so much better. And I think

638
00:37:04,046 --> 00:37:06,246
Speaker 1: you're starting to see that that offense is really starting

639
00:37:06,286 --> 00:37:09,726
Speaker 1: to click. Now. Obviously you missed that explosiveness from Tyreek,

640
00:37:10,046 --> 00:37:12,126
Speaker 1: but you still got the best tied in league or

641
00:37:12,166 --> 00:37:14,926
Speaker 1: one of the best Tide is Travis Kelcey. You still

642
00:37:15,006 --> 00:37:19,606
Speaker 1: got Andy Reid call and plays divas the spagnolia. The

643
00:37:19,646 --> 00:37:22,566
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator is still calling up great defense, Chris Joneses

644
00:37:22,606 --> 00:37:25,006
Speaker 1: on that defensive side of the ball. They have players

645
00:37:25,046 --> 00:37:27,606
Speaker 1: to go back to the ANC Championship Game, to go

646
00:37:27,686 --> 00:37:29,726
Speaker 1: back to the Super Bowl, and I wouldn't be surprised

647
00:37:29,966 --> 00:37:31,806
Speaker 1: if they make it there. Now with the with the

648
00:37:31,886 --> 00:37:34,446
Speaker 1: with the Falcons, did you ask me about them? Yeah,

649
00:37:34,566 --> 00:37:37,406
Speaker 1: because I feel like they've been in so many close ones, right,

650
00:37:37,606 --> 00:37:40,046
Speaker 1: I think they've been playing better than expected, just not

651
00:37:40,166 --> 00:37:42,206
Speaker 1: being able to close out. But I think people are

652
00:37:42,206 --> 00:37:44,806
Speaker 1: overlooking them a little bit. Yeah, I think they are two,

653
00:37:44,886 --> 00:37:47,686
Speaker 1: aren't there. Smith the head coach, I love him. I

654
00:37:47,726 --> 00:37:50,406
Speaker 1: think he's great now. He's doing the most he can

655
00:37:50,526 --> 00:37:53,446
Speaker 1: with the talent on that team. Nothing gets Marcus Mariota.

656
00:37:53,766 --> 00:37:56,926
Speaker 1: But we know what Marcus Mariota can do. Good quarterback,

657
00:37:57,006 --> 00:38:00,446
Speaker 1: but obviously not like on that Patrick Mahomes, that super

658
00:38:00,486 --> 00:38:02,846
Speaker 1: Bowl caliber guy that could take you to the super Bowl.

659
00:38:03,366 --> 00:38:07,726
Speaker 1: But the players Cordel Patterson, who was a receiver really

660
00:38:07,766 --> 00:38:09,766
Speaker 1: and it's always played that kind of you know, that

661
00:38:09,926 --> 00:38:13,846
Speaker 1: that army Swiss, army knife type guy. But using him

662
00:38:13,846 --> 00:38:15,766
Speaker 1: more at that running back position now and using him

663
00:38:15,766 --> 00:38:18,166
Speaker 1: out of the back, it's been genius. I love watching

664
00:38:18,286 --> 00:38:20,366
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith when he was at Tennessee. He would come

665
00:38:20,446 --> 00:38:21,926
Speaker 1: up with these great schemes. He reminds me of a

666
00:38:21,966 --> 00:38:24,526
Speaker 1: young Andy Reid really, the way he's able to come

667
00:38:24,566 --> 00:38:26,966
Speaker 1: up with some of these offensive, scripted plays. And they

668
00:38:27,006 --> 00:38:28,646
Speaker 1: just need players, I think. I mean, I think it's

669
00:38:28,686 --> 00:38:30,286
Speaker 1: the guys there, but you need a couple more players

670
00:38:30,286 --> 00:38:32,326
Speaker 1: to go with their really good players, and they're a

671
00:38:32,326 --> 00:38:35,046
Speaker 1: team that I think could build for the future. Now

672
00:38:35,086 --> 00:38:37,406
Speaker 1: you look at those coaches, Arthur Smith, and you mentioned

673
00:38:37,406 --> 00:38:40,766
Speaker 1: Andy Reid as well. You had a prolific career as

674
00:38:40,806 --> 00:38:42,846
Speaker 1: a tight end, one of the best ones the game

675
00:38:42,886 --> 00:38:46,326
Speaker 1: has ever seen. Hall of Famer. When you look at

676
00:38:46,406 --> 00:38:49,406
Speaker 1: some of these play callers and you look at the landscape,

677
00:38:49,966 --> 00:38:53,086
Speaker 1: and you said to yourself, boy, I could have probably

678
00:38:53,086 --> 00:38:56,326
Speaker 1: had any more yards than what I had before. Do

679
00:38:56,366 --> 00:38:58,286
Speaker 1: you ever say that to your stuff, Like I could

680
00:38:58,286 --> 00:39:01,606
Speaker 1: do some damage here if Maholes was my quarterbacks. Well,

681
00:39:01,646 --> 00:39:03,206
Speaker 1: if you want to ask my wife that question, you'd

682
00:39:03,206 --> 00:39:07,526
Speaker 1: probably take yes. Shut up, stop start complaining. I'm that

683
00:39:07,606 --> 00:39:09,966
Speaker 1: old guy, like, yeah, you know what, I could have

684
00:39:10,046 --> 00:39:12,806
Speaker 1: done the bones with Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes or

685
00:39:13,326 --> 00:39:16,526
Speaker 1: Tom Brady or Peyton or whatever. I mean. Uh, but

686
00:39:16,606 --> 00:39:21,206
Speaker 1: you know, I make no, I don't have a problem

687
00:39:21,246 --> 00:39:23,446
Speaker 1: with with my career obviously. I think I did pretty

688
00:39:23,446 --> 00:39:26,486
Speaker 1: well no matter what. But yeah, it would be quite

689
00:39:26,566 --> 00:39:28,566
Speaker 1: nice to see, you know, to play with one of

690
00:39:28,566 --> 00:39:30,486
Speaker 1: those guys, to play one of those coach, especially with

691
00:39:30,486 --> 00:39:33,566
Speaker 1: the rules that that's the biggest thing that I would

692
00:39:33,606 --> 00:39:35,526
Speaker 1: love now, because you, I mean, come on, it's an

693
00:39:35,526 --> 00:39:38,766
Speaker 1: offensive league. People want to see points. You can't touch

694
00:39:38,806 --> 00:39:41,206
Speaker 1: the quarterback anymore when you go over the middle. They

695
00:39:41,246 --> 00:39:43,606
Speaker 1: can't grab you anymore. And they can't they can't hit

696
00:39:43,646 --> 00:39:46,246
Speaker 1: you in the head, thank god, you know, And which

697
00:39:46,246 --> 00:39:47,846
Speaker 1: is honestly, when I was coming in, that's what they

698
00:39:47,886 --> 00:39:49,206
Speaker 1: were trying to they were trying to knock you out

699
00:39:49,246 --> 00:39:52,926
Speaker 1: of the game. So the rules have changed to help

700
00:39:52,926 --> 00:39:54,846
Speaker 1: the offense go out there and scored more points. And

701
00:39:54,926 --> 00:39:58,766
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. I love watching Travis, watching Kittle,

702
00:39:59,046 --> 00:40:01,606
Speaker 1: watching Kyle Pitts down there in the Lanta. I want

703
00:40:01,606 --> 00:40:04,126
Speaker 1: to see these guys explode that tight end to make

704
00:40:04,166 --> 00:40:06,206
Speaker 1: it even better. Because I'm a big believer. I know

705
00:40:06,246 --> 00:40:08,686
Speaker 1: I'm biased, but if you don't have a great tight end,

706
00:40:09,126 --> 00:40:11,406
Speaker 1: I don't just look at the Super Bowl teams, you

707
00:40:11,526 --> 00:40:13,526
Speaker 1: probably is gonna be very, very tough to go out

708
00:40:13,526 --> 00:40:15,286
Speaker 1: there and have that complete offense that could take you

709
00:40:15,326 --> 00:40:17,686
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. I love that you brought up

710
00:40:17,726 --> 00:40:20,326
Speaker 1: those guys because as we're looking at this next generation

711
00:40:20,406 --> 00:40:22,926
Speaker 1: of the tight end position, right you mentioned the Kittles,

712
00:40:22,926 --> 00:40:25,966
Speaker 1: you mentioned Travis Kelsey. I'd love to throw in Darren

713
00:40:26,006 --> 00:40:27,886
Speaker 1: Waller and what he's been able to do the last

714
00:40:27,926 --> 00:40:31,166
Speaker 1: couple of seasons. Who are you excited to see continue

715
00:40:31,206 --> 00:40:33,926
Speaker 1: to develop and take the tight end position to the

716
00:40:34,006 --> 00:40:36,646
Speaker 1: next Yeah, don't forget about Mark Andrews over there in Baltimore.

717
00:40:36,686 --> 00:40:41,046
Speaker 1: Think he flies extreaming under the radar. I think right now,

718
00:40:41,086 --> 00:40:42,846
Speaker 1: if you took it right right now, he's the best

719
00:40:42,846 --> 00:40:45,806
Speaker 1: tight end in the league. That combo TI, blocking and catching,

720
00:40:45,846 --> 00:40:48,606
Speaker 1: he does it all. Dallas Goddard, Dallas Gardard is another

721
00:40:48,726 --> 00:40:50,446
Speaker 1: guy who's been a league for a while, but he's

722
00:40:50,446 --> 00:40:52,846
Speaker 1: really starting to find his footing out there. Yeah, other guys,

723
00:40:52,886 --> 00:40:57,606
Speaker 1: Darren Waller phenomenal. These guys are taking that athletically, especially

724
00:40:57,646 --> 00:40:59,726
Speaker 1: Oh Kyle Pitts. Don't get me going about that guy,

725
00:40:59,806 --> 00:41:02,926
Speaker 1: Like he's next level athleticism. We'll see if he can

726
00:41:03,006 --> 00:41:04,806
Speaker 1: keep putting it together. He already went over a thousand

727
00:41:04,926 --> 00:41:08,846
Speaker 1: yard as a rookie. Uh. But these guys, like I

728
00:41:08,846 --> 00:41:11,286
Speaker 1: said before, if you don't have that tight end, you

729
00:41:11,686 --> 00:41:14,366
Speaker 1: will not have that complete offense. You you you won't.

730
00:41:14,766 --> 00:41:16,326
Speaker 1: You won't be able to go to the super Bowl.

731
00:41:16,366 --> 00:41:18,086
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like it works. I mean, it's very

732
00:41:18,166 --> 00:41:20,806
Speaker 1: rare that that that it can work without that complete

733
00:41:20,846 --> 00:41:22,966
Speaker 1: It's because it's a mismatch every time. I mean you

734
00:41:23,006 --> 00:41:24,726
Speaker 1: put a dB I mean, I'm a bigger and stronger

735
00:41:24,726 --> 00:41:27,126
Speaker 1: than him. You put a linebacker on mean, I'm gonna

736
00:41:27,126 --> 00:41:29,566
Speaker 1: I'm gonna outquick him and get out the break faster

737
00:41:29,686 --> 00:41:32,126
Speaker 1: and him. So, uh, these guys are taking it to

738
00:41:32,206 --> 00:41:35,646
Speaker 1: the next level. I love it. Uh. Well, one one

739
00:41:35,686 --> 00:41:37,366
Speaker 1: team that's not taking it to the next level, at

740
00:41:37,446 --> 00:41:40,086
Speaker 1: least from the offensive side, has to be right now,

741
00:41:40,486 --> 00:41:45,126
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos that game obviously, you guys have televised

742
00:41:45,126 --> 00:41:49,646
Speaker 1: it between them and the Cults and that offense. I

743
00:41:49,686 --> 00:41:52,446
Speaker 1: mean even even Al Michaels was bored, right, I mean

744
00:41:52,526 --> 00:41:54,846
Speaker 1: he was even like struggling to come up with things

745
00:41:54,846 --> 00:41:58,326
Speaker 1: for this, right, And so you had said that Russell

746
00:41:58,366 --> 00:42:01,926
Speaker 1: Wilson was like Aladdin, like he was trying to be

747
00:42:02,206 --> 00:42:06,886
Speaker 1: something that he's not. Why is this thing not working?

748
00:42:07,126 --> 00:42:10,846
Speaker 1: Is it that the blame should be more on Russell

749
00:42:10,966 --> 00:42:14,606
Speaker 1: Wilson and he should take more of a role in

750
00:42:15,406 --> 00:42:18,526
Speaker 1: what plays are called, or is it more on Nathaniel

751
00:42:18,566 --> 00:42:22,166
Speaker 1: Hackett where right now the thought is that he's in

752
00:42:22,286 --> 00:42:26,646
Speaker 1: over his head so far, given the problems that they've

753
00:42:26,686 --> 00:42:31,766
Speaker 1: had trying to get plays in the clock management. Where

754
00:42:31,806 --> 00:42:34,166
Speaker 1: do you fall on that, is it is it Russ,

755
00:42:34,726 --> 00:42:38,486
Speaker 1: Is it more on Hackett or a combo of bo Well,

756
00:42:38,486 --> 00:42:40,086
Speaker 1: I think at the beginning, I would say it was

757
00:42:40,126 --> 00:42:42,326
Speaker 1: a combo of both. If you look at the last

758
00:42:42,366 --> 00:42:45,446
Speaker 1: three games, the clock management has been fine. It was

759
00:42:45,446 --> 00:42:48,766
Speaker 1: a problem at the beginning. Nathaniel Packet coach Hackett, admitted that,

760
00:42:48,886 --> 00:42:50,646
Speaker 1: and we spoke to him before the game. He's like, yeah,

761
00:42:50,646 --> 00:42:52,406
Speaker 1: it was a problem. You know, get the clock's going

762
00:42:52,446 --> 00:42:55,926
Speaker 1: faster this year for whatever, the way they start the

763
00:42:55,966 --> 00:42:57,846
Speaker 1: clock and all that stuff. So so he's like, we

764
00:42:57,926 --> 00:43:00,486
Speaker 1: had a problem. I hired a clock coach. It's fixed.

765
00:43:00,526 --> 00:43:02,086
Speaker 1: It hadn't. We haven't had a problem, and they haven't

766
00:43:02,086 --> 00:43:04,686
Speaker 1: in the last three games. I think from a play

767
00:43:04,846 --> 00:43:09,326
Speaker 1: calling perspective, at this point, I'm putting the blame way

768
00:43:09,326 --> 00:43:13,166
Speaker 1: more on Russell than I am on coach Hackett, because

769
00:43:13,286 --> 00:43:15,086
Speaker 1: like at the end of the game, that last fourth

770
00:43:15,086 --> 00:43:17,126
Speaker 1: and one when they when they lost that game, that's

771
00:43:17,166 --> 00:43:20,046
Speaker 1: a play that Russell won it. Nathaniel coach Hackett came

772
00:43:20,046 --> 00:43:22,366
Speaker 1: out and said that, and I agree with that. You

773
00:43:22,446 --> 00:43:25,006
Speaker 1: pay this guy that much money and you put the

774
00:43:25,006 --> 00:43:27,086
Speaker 1: ball in his hands and a play that he wants

775
00:43:27,086 --> 00:43:28,846
Speaker 1: and that's the play that he wanted. He didn't make

776
00:43:28,886 --> 00:43:31,406
Speaker 1: the play and he had guys wide open. I'm looking

777
00:43:31,446 --> 00:43:34,806
Speaker 1: at Russell. Russell came. He wanted out of Seattle and

778
00:43:34,846 --> 00:43:37,846
Speaker 1: he was having all that all those problems there because

779
00:43:37,846 --> 00:43:40,286
Speaker 1: he wants to be like it seems it seems like

780
00:43:40,286 --> 00:43:42,606
Speaker 1: he wants to be like Aaron. He said it, Aaron Rodgers.

781
00:43:43,126 --> 00:43:44,526
Speaker 1: He wants to be Peyton Man. He wants to be

782
00:43:44,606 --> 00:43:46,726
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, wants to be those guys, and it's like,

783
00:43:47,166 --> 00:43:49,006
Speaker 1: you're not that guy. It would be kind of like

784
00:43:49,086 --> 00:43:51,766
Speaker 1: me saying as good as I was at tight end

785
00:43:51,926 --> 00:43:54,646
Speaker 1: because Russell, make no mistake about it. Guy's a phenomenal player,

786
00:43:55,046 --> 00:43:57,486
Speaker 1: but he has a style that he plays like. It's

787
00:43:57,486 --> 00:43:59,646
Speaker 1: like if I'm a tight end and I'm one of

788
00:43:59,686 --> 00:44:01,766
Speaker 1: the best tight ends in the league, and back when

789
00:44:01,766 --> 00:44:03,406
Speaker 1: I was playing, it's like me saying, I want to

790
00:44:03,406 --> 00:44:05,246
Speaker 1: be like Randy Moss. I want to be like t

791
00:44:05,486 --> 00:44:07,246
Speaker 1: O I could be like that. It's like, no, Tony,

792
00:44:07,366 --> 00:44:10,046
Speaker 1: like stay, you're tight end and you're very good at him,

793
00:44:10,086 --> 00:44:12,166
Speaker 1: So don't try to be something that you're not. It's

794
00:44:12,206 --> 00:44:14,486
Speaker 1: good enough. And Russell it needs to get out on

795
00:44:14,526 --> 00:44:16,846
Speaker 1: those boots. You need to get out on those those

796
00:44:16,846 --> 00:44:18,806
Speaker 1: plays where he's making plays with his legs. That's where

797
00:44:18,846 --> 00:44:21,126
Speaker 1: you shine. You are not you're a good You're a

798
00:44:21,126 --> 00:44:23,526
Speaker 1: good pocket passer, You're not a great gun one at it,

799
00:44:23,526 --> 00:44:25,566
Speaker 1: and it's shown it's been that way throughout his career.

800
00:44:25,646 --> 00:44:28,566
Speaker 1: So I think right now it's a it's a case

801
00:44:28,566 --> 00:44:31,806
Speaker 1: of mistaken identity for him right there, and the players

802
00:44:32,286 --> 00:44:34,766
Speaker 1: are on his team are gonna start giving it to him.

803
00:44:34,806 --> 00:44:37,206
Speaker 1: You saw it on the on the film that I've

804
00:44:37,206 --> 00:44:39,206
Speaker 1: been on that you do not want to be in

805
00:44:39,246 --> 00:44:42,046
Speaker 1: that locker room where Okay, we know that right now

806
00:44:42,046 --> 00:44:43,846
Speaker 1: you're trying to be something you're not. We don't want

807
00:44:43,846 --> 00:44:46,526
Speaker 1: to hear that raw ross stuff. We're losing you. Get

808
00:44:46,526 --> 00:44:48,246
Speaker 1: it corrected, and get it corrected now, and get back

809
00:44:48,286 --> 00:44:49,486
Speaker 1: to that guy that we know you can be and

810
00:44:49,486 --> 00:44:51,566
Speaker 1: that we paid you all that money for. Otherwise it's

811
00:44:51,566 --> 00:44:54,006
Speaker 1: gonna hit the fan, and I'm anxiously all this thing

812
00:44:54,286 --> 00:44:56,126
Speaker 1: turns out. Do you think it already has? Do you

813
00:44:56,126 --> 00:44:58,846
Speaker 1: think that it's already hit the fan? Yeah, it already has,

814
00:44:58,926 --> 00:45:00,446
Speaker 1: but it could. But we got a long season. We

815
00:45:00,526 --> 00:45:03,006
Speaker 1: got way more games to play, and so maybe he

816
00:45:03,046 --> 00:45:05,126
Speaker 1: can get it corrected. I know he had to about

817
00:45:05,126 --> 00:45:07,886
Speaker 1: his arm. Now, I'm like, okay, is that I believe you?

818
00:45:08,006 --> 00:45:11,926
Speaker 1: But I mean, does it really inhibit Does it inhibit

819
00:45:11,966 --> 00:45:14,806
Speaker 1: you that much? I don't know. Maybe that's the problem then,

820
00:45:14,846 --> 00:45:18,246
Speaker 1: But his throws have been awful, as reeds have been awful,

821
00:45:18,686 --> 00:45:21,366
Speaker 1: and I'd like to see him get it, like we all.

822
00:45:21,406 --> 00:45:24,486
Speaker 1: I like russ Us is a good dude, but right now,

823
00:45:24,806 --> 00:45:27,406
Speaker 1: like that ra ra and go Broncos country. Even at

824
00:45:27,406 --> 00:45:29,246
Speaker 1: the end of that people, it just turns people off.

825
00:45:29,286 --> 00:45:31,206
Speaker 1: I hope that he can look in the mirror and go,

826
00:45:31,286 --> 00:45:32,886
Speaker 1: you know what, man, I gotta get back to being

827
00:45:32,966 --> 00:45:35,206
Speaker 1: that that old guy, that old guy that I was,

828
00:45:35,286 --> 00:45:38,326
Speaker 1: that third round draft choice that grinded, that that made

829
00:45:38,366 --> 00:45:41,126
Speaker 1: plays with his legs, that was so calm and smooth

830
00:45:41,166 --> 00:45:44,446
Speaker 1: in the pocket. Because right now it looks it looks awful. Yeah,

831
00:45:44,566 --> 00:45:48,166
Speaker 1: let's ride. How about let's not about let's hide it.

832
00:45:49,326 --> 00:45:52,206
Speaker 1: Let's go back to what we know you can do.

833
00:45:52,446 --> 00:45:54,606
Speaker 1: Um And of course, Tony, we know that you kill

834
00:45:54,646 --> 00:45:57,406
Speaker 1: it in every aspect of your career. Thank you so much.

835
00:45:57,446 --> 00:46:00,646
Speaker 1: We are so proud to see you continue to well.

836
00:46:00,686 --> 00:46:03,206
Speaker 1: You're one who has reinvented himself over and over and

837
00:46:03,206 --> 00:46:05,846
Speaker 1: over again, but still true to who you are. Tony Gonzalez,

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming through. We appreciates appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: M J. Tony Gonzalez fantastic guests so much that we

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Speaker 1: could have delved in with him. Also, probably didn't know this,

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Speaker 1: but he loves getting up at taking cold showers. That

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Speaker 1: is yeah, so so burning off my skin. No, no,

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Speaker 1: me too. And there's a reason why he wore those

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Speaker 1: gloves in Cleveland or whatever it was for for for

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Speaker 1: Thursday night football. So great having him on. We're going

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Speaker 1: to have a lot of Latino voices like that who

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Speaker 1: are part of the game, who make this game so special, players, broadcasters, entertainers, etc.

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Speaker 1: So that's what we hope to achieve on this podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm also hoping to achieve a computer that works as well.

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Speaker 1: Thank goodness, Thank goodness that we were able to get

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Speaker 1: this off the ground at least, I have no doubt. Well,

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Speaker 1: no technology, retro mercury, retro gade is going to stop

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Speaker 1: us getting this got on. We're too hard, We've been

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Speaker 1: waiting too long, so we will always find a way

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Speaker 1: to get on here. I'm so excited for what's to

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Speaker 1: come the rest of the season as we continue to

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Speaker 1: incorporate other voices from like you mentioned, the different areas

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Speaker 1: in entertainment and music, of course, those who love and

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Speaker 1: even those who cover the game from our perspective and beyond.

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Speaker 1: It's very collaborative. We're very inclusive and that's what I

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Speaker 1: love about us. All Right, everybody, I hope you enjoyed

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Speaker 1: our first episode. We will be back every Thursday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: el Huddle everyone, Yes see Everybody and Huddle is a

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