1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:04,559 Speaker 1: Damn Smith about the football. Let's picked to fund williams 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: Hetty said, for the touchdown, kinds of time for Taylor 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: and he's got spils Hey, he's in the in zone. 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: It's Mark check it off. Yes, he takes it home. Smith, 5 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: he lost the handle and hands come down. I'm gonna wins. 6 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: In one of the most challenging games in NFL history 7 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: for color blind people, the Bills stuck a fork in 8 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: the around the NFL crew. They took the fork out 9 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: of their back, and they beat the New York Jet 10 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: two to seventeen in MetLife Stadium. I'm Greg Rosenthal. I'm 11 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: here with Chris westleyn We're gonna get to Dan Hansas, 12 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. We're gonna preview all the week ten games soon. 13 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: We're even gonna get Connor or on the phone live 14 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: from MetLife Stadium in just a couple of minutes. But first, 15 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: west let's talk about this game. What what was your 16 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: big takeaway watching the Bills get a huge road win. 17 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,919 Speaker 1: It was a game that could have gone other either way, 18 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: but the big plays came out into Bill's favor. The 19 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: Devin Smith fumble on a kickoff return was a killer, 20 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: and then a couple of bad drops from Brandon Marshall 21 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: and the third down drop from Eric Decker. Uh Kellen 22 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: Davis wasn't on the same page with Ruyn Fitzpatrick on 23 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: a fourth down play in the end zone that could 24 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: have put the Jets in the lead late in the game. Yeah, 25 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: I don't think that Bills necessarily looked like a much 26 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: better team. It looked like to even teams, and the 27 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: fourth down players are what I'm thinking of. There was 28 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: the drop by Decker, There's also you know this that 29 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: set up the fourth down call where they throw it 30 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: short of the sticks to Brandon Marshall. There was a 31 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: lot of throwing short of the sticks from both teams, 32 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: and then of course the play to Davis. I liked 33 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: that Todd Bowles was aggressive throughout the night, but that 34 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: play call doing in some sort of rub route throwing 35 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: it to a guy with one catch all year was curious, 36 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: And then I think it was telling when the Bills 37 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: got the ball back. The Jets had all three time outs, 38 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: but the Bills ran the ball pretty well. There. They 39 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: get the big third down to Sammy Watkins, who had 40 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: tough time with roou Revas all night, but he turned 41 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: revas around and he's got to remember that play for 42 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: a long long time. That was a key playing the game. 43 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: And then you know, Lashawn McCoy had thirty one rushing 44 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: yards on that last drive. So just getting rid of 45 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: those time outs, burning some clock and basically ending the 46 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: Jets chances. We really screwed up and forking the Bills. 47 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: I did especially well when we forked them. We did. 48 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: I had them in the playoffs before the season, and 49 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: I was arguing for them that whole show, and then 50 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: I just gave up. Well, they've got this playmaking trio now. 51 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: When we forked him, no one knew when when Lashawn 52 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: mcquill will be back, when Sammy Watkins will be back, 53 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: when Carlos Williams will be back. It was our fault 54 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: for just assuming they would be injured longer than they were. 55 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 1: But these guys are carrying that offense right now and 56 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: really it's hard to shut them down. Well, Tyrod Taylor 57 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: had one of his worst games. It was not a 58 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: good game for either quarterback. I would say Ryan Fitzpatrick 59 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: played one of his worst games of the year. Two 60 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: He made some nice throws in the in the second 61 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: half on the comeback trail, but really did not play 62 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: well overall, missed a lot of throwers. Chris Ivory looked 63 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: like Chris Ivory again. But uh, while we're talking, let's 64 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 1: just get our friend Connor Roar on the line here. 65 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: Who's down in the bowels somewhere of MetLife Stadium. Connor? 66 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: Are you there, buddy? What's happening everybody? It's good great 67 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: to have you on a post TNF game. You watch 68 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: this game in person. You're coming from the locker room 69 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: and the Rex Ryan press conference. Tell tell us a 70 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: little bit about what's going on after the game there. 71 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Rex just he he went full 72 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: Rex on everybody. You know, I mean that was um. 73 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: I mean that that was the performance of a life time. 74 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, he's calling out reporters from like 75 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: three years ago. Stories they wrote about them in New 76 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: York and like headlines that were you know, made to 77 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: poke fun of him. But he was here. He still 78 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: remembers it like it was unbelievable. And then he equated 79 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: um being fired by the Jets to being dumped by 80 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: a hot girl. And then he said that, uh, but 81 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: every now and then the girl calls you, but she 82 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: can't have you back and like it was just like 83 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: this unbelievable, like you could almost sell he was kind 84 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: of holding back some real emotion, Like you know, there 85 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: was another level to this, but I was holding back. Yeah, 86 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: I did not look like a man holding back. He um. 87 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 1: You know, I think there was another level to that. 88 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: I think there were some things that he probably wanted 89 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: to say that he couldn't, But I mean, he he 90 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: was fired up. It was it was it was pretty incredible. Well, 91 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: you were running down to the locker room, so I 92 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: don't know if you saw it. I mean, he was 93 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: pretty fired up at the end of the game with Uh. 94 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,119 Speaker 1: It wasn't hard to read his lips what he said 95 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: over and over f yeah, yeah, over and over at 96 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: the end of the game. And I would not blame 97 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: Dan Hansis if he skipped the start of this podcast 98 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: or this podcast in general, because I think this is 99 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: gonna be a very tough one for the Jets fan 100 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: and Dan in general to watch too, to see the 101 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: Jets lose this game in a typical painful Jets fashion, 102 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: and then to watch Rex kind of just enjoying every 103 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: minute of it afterwards. It was I mean, you know, 104 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: I think that definitely what you said, kind of the 105 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: the icing on the cake was the full on headset 106 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: and hatch spike afterwards. I mean it was just like 107 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: you know that that was just like singing the end 108 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: zone afterwards, and uh, you know it was incredible. I mean, 109 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: you know, you know that the guy wore his hard 110 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: on his sleeve. He didn't even show up um during 111 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: the pregame. He stayed in the locker room for the 112 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: entire pregames. So I mean that's just you know, this 113 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: was such an emotional endeavor for him, and you could tell, 114 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, he was he did not want 115 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: to lose this game. And you know, I think he 116 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: put the Patriots the head of the Jets during the 117 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: press conferences, but you could tell it was the other 118 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: way around. He wanted this one in the worst way. Connor, 119 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: these teams are both five and four. The Bills seemed 120 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: to be, uh have momentum in their favor, but the 121 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: Jets have an easier schedule in the next month. Do 122 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: you get it? Do you have a sense now of 123 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: which team is in better shape? I think we'll we'll 124 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: really be able to tell, you know, even if they 125 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: lose to New England on Monday Night next week, just 126 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: based on how well the Bills can play them a 127 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: second time. And you know, if you know, Tyrod seemed 128 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: to be limping a bit today. I mean, we'll see 129 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: how his health comes out. But for the Jets, yeah, 130 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: I mean, they've got an easier schedule of their play 131 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: calling has to get better. I mean, you know, they 132 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: they put themselves in some really bad situations tonight and 133 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: you know, I think Greg was talking about it right 134 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: before I came on, But there's a couple of calls 135 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: that are gonna be really difficult for them to explain 136 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: this week, and and that that's got to get better. 137 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: If you think about this game, though, they stopped the 138 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: Bills four straight three and ounce in the second half, 139 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: the Jets turned the ball over four times and the 140 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: Bills didn't turn it over at all, and yet it 141 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: was still down to the last drive of the game. 142 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: The Bills average four point four yards per play, which 143 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: is a really low number. Overall, I think the Jets 144 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: defense probably had a better night than the Bill's defense, 145 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: So I don't I don't think Jets should feel like 146 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: like their season is somehow going downhill after this game. 147 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: They I think they look maybe slightly like the better 148 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: team or or very even teams tonight. But but it's 149 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: gonna be a tough one. You can only blow so 150 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: many of these opportunities in the division. I think the 151 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: Jets have to wonder what their identity is. This is 152 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: two out of three weeks where they've been run all over. 153 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: They couldn't stop Latami's Murray, they can't stop Lashawn McCoy 154 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: and Carlos Williams. Yeah, And I mean I think that 155 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: was kind of the intent. I mean, you know, if 156 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: you're talking about the Bills, I mean that's the design. 157 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: I mean, Rex, you know, he knows he's not a 158 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: good in game coach. I mean he knows he's like 159 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: like this week where there's ten minutes left, no challenges, 160 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: But this is a team that is kind of built 161 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: not to negate these situations. But I mean, you know, 162 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: he wanted a power running team in the worst way 163 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: every year that he's been in the NFL, and I 164 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: feel like this is the closest thing that he's had 165 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: two to the offense that he's wanted, right down to 166 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: the coordinator. And I say, I feel like we're starting 167 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: to see kind of what his his vision was initially. Yeah, 168 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: that's true, and I think they'll get better in terms 169 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: of the pass rush when Mario Williams gets healthy. Thank 170 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: you Connor Uh for calling. We're gonna send this over 171 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: to Dan and everyone and start previewing the rest of 172 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: the week ten games. But before before I do that, 173 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: I just gotta mention no, no more of the color 174 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: rush uniforms, just making it tough for all us color 175 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: blind people out there. You couldn't tell what was going 176 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 1: on during the game. So enough with the color rush. Now, 177 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: let's get onto the Week ten games. D Around the 178 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: NFL podcast, now available in Pumpkin Spies. Welcome back to 179 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name 180 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: is Dan Hansus and I am joined Byram Felder, heroes, 181 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg Rosa. What's up? Boys? 182 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: Hey da? Wow? When the when the show starts and 183 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: you do your little intro, Now I I can think 184 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 1: of are those two charming Australian girls, right Australian. Yes, 185 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: that's sent into Australia. Oh yeah, actually let's listen to 186 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: that right now. Hi, I'm in Gowery and I'm Calliope. 187 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: Aware from Australia. We have no interest in NFL, but 188 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: our dad listens to the podcast every single week, So 189 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: this is our impression of the introduction. Welcome back to 190 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: another edition of the y Around the NFL podcast. My 191 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: name is Dan Hansis and I'm joining room filled with heroes, 192 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 1: Mark Sussler, Chris Westling and Greg Rosenthal. What up, boys, Dan, 193 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: isn't that nice? I love that. That's awesome. They were 194 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: great and glory and Calliope, Calliope. Sent posted by Jeremy 195 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: Rice on YouTube. Fans all over the world, Mark on 196 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: top of the world. Even though you're under the weather, 197 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: you're on top of the world. You get that. Yeah, 198 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: it's not accurate. I mean the under the weather part 199 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: is not. On top of this is this is Mark 200 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: Sessler's flu game. Someone should write a profile in a 201 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: men's magazine called Mark Sessler has a Cold. I like 202 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,719 Speaker 1: the idea that I feel like you've made this flu 203 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: game analogy before in this very podcast studio. I think 204 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: with Mark I have could be wrong. It was with me, okay, 205 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: with a glass when I came back from wherever, I 206 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: was all right, it's will from the airport. How are 207 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 1: you feeling, Mark, I, I don't know. I'm on a medication. 208 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: I've not really I don't take medication, and I took 209 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: uh a heavy dosage this morning, and I have no 210 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,719 Speaker 1: idea who I am aware, I will. I'm going to 211 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: share this just because this is a safe space. On 212 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: the podcast, we were recording our now hit and after 213 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: one of the hits busted because of graphics are Mark said, 214 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: with a straight face, I got three more in me total. 215 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: That's a total and it had nothing to do with 216 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 1: just that was Sydney behind the glass? Did you take 217 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: that as a threat from the talent challenge? I stopped, 218 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: and I stopped Sittney after to make sure that she 219 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: knew it was not not trying to be hostile. You've 220 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: actually said that same sort of thing almost every Sunday 221 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: night anyway, so it's not too well. It just felt 222 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: real this time. But we do admire you for coming in. 223 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: We know you're under the weather and it's just not 224 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: the same without you. Mark. I'm happy to be here. 225 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: Oh oh I am. I could have decided not to. 226 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: I couldn't be happier to be here. Okay, good, there 227 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: we go, the whole families together. Greg It's so great, 228 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: so happy. And I saw Greg today on NFL Network 229 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 1: on the around the NFL television program High Tide Lifts 230 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 1: All Boats. Is that what they call it? Yeah, thanks 231 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: for being the star that we all look up to. 232 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: You're welcome. Somebody's gotta do it. So we got gotta 233 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: take the pressure a lot, a lot to get to today. 234 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: Of course, this is our Thursday early Friday, depending when 235 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: you hear it preview show before that we get into 236 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: those games. Uh, and let me just go over what 237 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: we have ahead Investor's two teams, four teams on by 238 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: means teams fourteen games to talk about? West, can we 239 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: take the volume down on the laptop and be a 240 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: pre and but before we get into all those it 241 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: was the math right there. You were correct, And you 242 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: heard at the top of the show of course, Uh, 243 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: West and Greg talk about the Jets and Bills. And 244 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: the good thing about this is we taped this show 245 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: before the Thursday night game. Um, so I don't know 246 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: if the Jets one or not. If the Jets would 247 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: have lost and then we taped it, I probably would 248 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: not have been in a good mood. But you're in 249 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: a great but I'm in a great mood because I'm 250 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: getting ready to see my team of Thursday football. Don't 251 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: let me down. Go confidence level one through one out 252 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: of one. Uh, that's not very strong. Well that's why 253 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: you know I'm always on guard as a Jets fan. 254 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: But yes, that game is in the past for the 255 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: listener right now, and now we moved to the future. 256 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: Like I said, we have thirteen games to talk about. 257 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: Let's start talking to out him and we'll get going 258 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: in order from the early earliest game to the latest game. 259 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: The Jacksonville Jaguars. Let's get started against the Baltimore Ravens. 260 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: And Uh, this is a game I know you guys 261 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: are very excited about. And and I will say this, Greg, 262 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: you I think you brought it up in the last 263 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: podcast that there's some talk, some buzz in the Crescent 264 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: sitting on the Crescent City. What do they call Baltimore 265 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: Charms City? Thank you please, that there is a potential 266 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: playoff run. You know you don't think it's Charms City, Bore, Well, 267 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: they can call themselves that. I get Brown's fan that 268 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: coming from. I get that. But there's been buzz Greg 269 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: that the Ravens think they got a playoff run in 270 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: them if they could just get going. But if you 271 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: don't like the Ravens, I suggest don't don't read the 272 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: Baltimore Son this week. The level of confidence from the 273 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: Ravens players that they are just uh an inch away 274 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: from making a run and shocking everyone and going to 275 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Just the confidence John John Harbor must have 276 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 1: been preaching this throughout their bye week or whatever it was, 277 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: because they came back and they're like, well, of course, 278 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: of course we're gonna make a run. You know, there's 279 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: no there's no doubt. We totally consider ourselves in the mix. 280 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: And if you look at their schedule and you look 281 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: at the it's it's not the craziest thing in the 282 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: world to see them go on a little bit of run. 283 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: They got the Jags, they host, the Rams, at Browns, 284 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: at Dolphins, Like, none of those games are games where 285 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: you think they don't have a chance. I think they're 286 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: about to lose on Sunday to the team that actually 287 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: could go on a run. There's a lot more going 288 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: on with with with the Jaguars right now than the Ravens. 289 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: And I think that we've talked about this all week 290 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: with what happened with Andrew Luck one of these other 291 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: teams in the South if anyone wants this division, there's 292 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: no evidence of that that Jacksonville is a good chance 293 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: to be that team with Blake Bordle's playing away is 294 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: Can I just say the little gravel in your voice 295 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: is a little bit sexy? I honestly, I feel like, 296 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: have you ever woken up in a weird house and 297 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: within four or five minutes you remember where you were? That? Well, 298 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: it's hours later and I still don't know where I am, 299 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: So I don't know what to tell you west here feelings. 300 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: I've woke up in somebody's strange basement one time on Tybee, 301 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: but not a shock. Your thoughts on the yet, I 302 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: think you've woken up in every strange basement there isn't 303 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: tye and attic and on the beach and yeah, alright, 304 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: go ahead. Your thoughts on the Jaguars was incredible. How 305 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: much more firepower the Jaguars have on offense. The Raven's 306 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: number one receiver is a special teamer named kamar Kean, 307 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: and the Jaguars have in Robin's Allen Robinson and Alan Hearns, 308 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: the first wide receiver duo since uh the two thousand 309 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: seven Rainey Moss West Welker. They have six hundred yards 310 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: and six touchdowns by mid season. And I still I 311 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: don't think that Julius Thomas is untalented. He just hasn't 312 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: gotten on track yet. So they've got three weapons. They 313 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: are better than anything to race. But that makes them 314 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: fun to watch, and they are, but it doesn't make 315 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: them good. They are a better fantasy team than they 316 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: are reality. And Bordles is a better fantasy quarterback than 317 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: he is reality. It's the Bordles coaster. When you watch him, 318 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: it's like it's almost exa Stein. At this point, he's 319 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: got the rights matchup because Joe Flacco is the most 320 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: roller coaster quarterback in the NFL for the past few years. 321 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: That's that's totally fair. I mean the game against the 322 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: Jets was a perfect example. He had about seven or 323 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: eight outrageous plays in that game. Great throws, runs, athleticism, 324 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: throws under pressure. But he also had a fumble near 325 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: the goal line. He also had an interception. He had 326 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: an interception that Daryl Rivas should have had for a 327 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: pick six. And it's a lot of just ups and 328 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: downs with Bortle. He's never the same quarter to quarter. 329 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: And the difference I think is the stories come out 330 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: of Baltimore as the DNA of the Ravens are. They 331 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: do believe they can do this, and they've come back 332 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: from the dead before their Super Bowl season that record 333 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: at one point, they came back from the absolute grave 334 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: to win that thing. And Jacksonville Blake Bortles had quotes 335 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: this week saying, you know, we're just still a step 336 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: away from learning how to win these close games. They're 337 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: mentally somewhere different. So that's the difference with Baltimore. Mean, 338 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: maybe they out. Maybe with Baltimore, they because they speak 339 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: with confidence like they're their old Rave, but they're not 340 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: the old Ravens. It's almost like they think ray Lewis 341 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: is still on the team. And speaking of ray Lewis Sydney, 342 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 1: I would like to hear Ray Lewis's snippet of the 343 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 1: new single that he released on his Instagram page. Uh, 344 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: the name of the song is a strange name. It's 345 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: called can You Stand the Rain? No question Mark? So 346 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: how would you even stress out? Is that can you 347 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: stand the rain? Can you stand the rain? How do 348 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: you do without a question, without no question marks? Says, 349 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: can you stand the rain? Don't stress? Yeah, just put 350 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: the question mark and let's hear the snippet. That's what 351 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: I mean for women. That's why women, Women's wolves. And 352 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: that's it. That's the snippet. In other words, he released 353 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: eighteen seconds of the song and he said, I'm going 354 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: to release the best eighteen seconds of my new album. 355 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: Your thoughts West it's terrible? Or why would anybody listen 356 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: to that? This is not someone that I need more 357 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: of in my life? I agree with that is it's 358 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: the situation with Ray Lewis where he's got enough handlers 359 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: around him. I would assume this is what it is 360 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 1: that have told him that he's a great rapper. Uh 361 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: that now he believes he's the next big contemporaries it 362 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: even rapper and we don't even get to that. Or 363 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 1: is it like R and B or what when I 364 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: and the around the NFL post I called him a 365 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: rising contemporary R and B stark he should just go 366 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: by Ray Ray if he's gonna do it. Sure so? 367 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: Not a good not good ratings on that song, Give 368 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: it a give it a grade. I would take rising 369 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: and Star out of the sentence you wrote, I could 370 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 1: not understand the incomprehensible jubble mess coming out of his 371 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: mouth to know what to think of the song. He's 372 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: terrible as far as that game goes. I think, I 373 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: think if you're gonna pick, you know a new music 374 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: released this week, Missy Elliot, it's really the better bet 375 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: than than ray Lewis. That's how I'd go. I tweeted 376 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: that I listened to the Missy Elliot song right after 377 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: the ray Lewis song and it was jarring. The Missy 378 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: song is very good. Yeah, and they look at our 379 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: picks for the week, uh Mark Sessler with the hero 380 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: pick while we stop hero picks until Greg stopped making that, 381 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: you could still keep doing it. Where's the burlap sack? 382 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: By the way, we need a studio hind your computer monitor. Yes, 383 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: remind me next week the Jaguars, uh Mark has him. 384 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: I believe it. Mark believes, well, you don't believe in 385 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: the Ravens and you like the Jaguars. That makes it's 386 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: not a bad Hero pick at all. I think it's 387 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: I think the Ravens are right for the picking this week. 388 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: Mark convinced me I'm going to change my pick. By 389 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: the way, if you if you watch this, can treat 390 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,719 Speaker 1: yourself to the Jared Odrick peee Herman sack dance if 391 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: he gets another sack, best sack dance in the game. 392 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: Moving on, the Detroit Lions, um just fresh off their 393 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: number thirty two ranking in the Around the NFL Power Poll, 394 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: now have to head to the Green Bay to face 395 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: an angry Packers team. Not a great situation for the 396 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: Lions and Aaron Rodgers, who uh really, you would think, 397 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: unless there's something seriously wrong with that offense, that he's 398 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: gonna break out sooner rather than later, and this would 399 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: seem greg to be the game where it happens. It is, 400 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: but there is something seriously wrong with that offense. The 401 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: last good front to back game Aaron Rodgers had was 402 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: Week three. That was the last time the Packers offense 403 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: looked like the Packers offense. We were talking about Aaron 404 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: Rodgers having a historical season right now, He's not. He 405 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: would admit that he's not playing confidently. He meant when 406 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: he missed Cobb on that key fourth down, he said 407 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: after the game, he was indecisive, and I think that's 408 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: been the scared he said, yeah, And he also said 409 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,479 Speaker 1: he's been hesitant, and he's I think he's thinking too 410 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: much right now because receivers aren't getting open and he's 411 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: not confident throwing into into tight windows. For them, Well, 412 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: they don't have Jordy Nelson, and they also just don't 413 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: have Eddie Lacy, who's essentially, you know, sabotage this camp 414 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: pain because he can't get in shape. Hey, football, he 415 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: said this week, and James Starks is now ahead of 416 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: Lacy on the depth chart. His quote to the media 417 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: this week is, I don't know what is hindering might play. 418 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: So unless he's uh, you know, playing koy, he doesn't 419 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: think it has anything to do with the way he's 420 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: physically built right now. He's just not performing well and 421 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: not getting opportunities. Yeah, back to Greg's point on Rogers, 422 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: I know in your quarterback ranks you kind of ripped 423 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: on him for missing throws. I thought against the Panthers 424 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: he made a series of some of the most incredible 425 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: throws in the second half. It's because his receivers aren't 426 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: getting open he has to pull off incredible He missed 427 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: about six open throws in the first half, which you 428 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: just don't see. You're right. The second half he was outstanding. 429 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing still playing pretty well, but 430 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: he missed a lot of open wasn't that throw to 431 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: the cop touchdown in the first half. Now that was 432 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,479 Speaker 1: the first drive of the second half. That was an 433 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: incredible but before that, Greg is correct, and watching that game, 434 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: before that Cob play happened. No matter what the score was, 435 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: Green Bay's offense look completely disjointed. Then they got on 436 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: tracked and and his final numbers, look, they don't look 437 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 1: like the game that I saw on the field. But 438 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: Rogers made a good point. He said we He said 439 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: that was schoolyard football in the second half and that 440 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: they can't rely on that. That he felt they were scrambling, 441 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: They're making improvised, improvisational plays. He's making that they need 442 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 1: to have some structured offense that's working, and he even 443 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: said that's that's not working for them right now. He 444 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 1: really seemed to be introspective after the game in this 445 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: week about what's wrong. Maybe it will be a turning 446 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: point because the schedule sets up nicely for them. They 447 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: get the Lions twice over the next month, they get 448 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: the Bears coming up soon too. I wouldn't see what 449 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: Jim Bob Cooter does with this lines off came out. 450 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: I believe Mark wrote it where he said he wants 451 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: to get a mere Abdola more involved. But they haven't 452 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: really gotten anything out of Golden Pate this year. Calvin 453 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: Johnson hasn't played up to his talent level. They have 454 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: all of these weapons and they're not They're not really 455 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: getting anything out of them. They also seem weak to week, 456 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: Like in the Abdulla article, I went and looked at 457 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: his touches over the last five games and they're all 458 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: over the map. And Calldwell basically said, well, it comes 459 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: down to the matchup week to week. Well, you know what, 460 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: how about the fact that you stink you have one win. 461 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: You have an explosive rookie. Why are you giving him 462 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: one touch against the Chiefs? Sessla in the cold Medicine 463 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: he's spitting, well, I just think it's like you have nothing. 464 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: There's some teams that are still playing coy about their 465 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: young players always. You know, we're still in this race. 466 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 1: There's no reason for Detroit not They're gonna blow this 467 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: machine up to find out what you have maybe the 468 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: perfect cure not for your cold. Unfortunately, Mark, it's hard 469 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: to pinpoint a cure for the humans basic cold, but 470 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: for a mere Abduela's inability to have a breakout game 471 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: is the Green Bay Packer defense got it out because 472 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: I hold in my hands right here the two thousand 473 00:23:52,080 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: fifteen season Week ten research notes, there's lantism set West. 474 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: You're asking where she's been? There she is. She's the 475 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: theme song of the research notes this week number on 476 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 1: the Greatest Breakup Songs Ever list. She's also dressing up 477 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: like a chicken on Jimmy Fallon in case you're wondering 478 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: where she Also, I think it's it's twenty at the 479 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: anniversary of that album coming out. Is that way you 480 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 1: brought it up the other week or no, it was 481 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: just just recently was I think West brought it up 482 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 1: on Tuesday's show because that it was the anniversary. So 483 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: it's a big moment really for West and all the 484 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: more more, what do you call yourself an Atlantis Morris 485 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: heads Morris senate head. I'm I'm the one who said 486 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: the other day that Beck is way better than you're 487 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: one of the Morriss Senators. Lots more set, by the way, 488 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: while we're here, had a very nice career it wasn't 489 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 1: just that album. She just never reached those heights. When 490 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: you saw twenty five million albums in your first out, 491 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: it's hard to match she did find Yeah, yeah, ironic, 492 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: what an all time American classic. I don't know what 493 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: that has to do with anything. You're such a music snob, 494 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: Greg by the way, you ought to know. Have you 495 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: noticed a little play into the research else? Yeah, it's 496 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: nailed it perfect. The Packers defense is beginning torched in 497 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: its last three games after allowing three sixteen yards per 498 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: game UH total yards per game through the first five games. 499 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: The Packers have allowed four point seven total yards per 500 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: game in three seventy five through the air in three weeks. 501 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: So while it makes sense to just bury the offense 502 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: because you expected so much more, the defense is not 503 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: helping out. Yeah. I remember an Olier season conversation when 504 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: the Packers played the Rams and there was a debate 505 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: but who had the better defense? I think we can 506 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: settle that one. We took the Packers across the board 507 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: to get off the schneid. That's not snid schneid from 508 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: it's an old Gin term from playing cards. Thank you, 509 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: Christopher the Mailman. Moving on to another one pm game. 510 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: The Miami Dolphins, humbled in the Dan Campbell or after 511 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 1: to defends two decisive losses, now travel to the Philadelphia 512 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: area to face the Eagles. The Eagles come off that 513 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: big win in overtime against the Cowboys, and I think 514 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: be around the NFL group believes that the Eagles are 515 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: the favorite in the NFC East. Now. Now all they 516 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: have to do is start stacking some wins and taking 517 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 1: care of the Dolphins on on their home turf. Mark Sessler, 518 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: that's what you gotta do, right, I mean, this is 519 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: the kind of game, and if we're gonna take the 520 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: Eagles seriously on any level, and I'm not quite sure 521 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: I do that, you've got to go in and just 522 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: roll the Dolphins team. Well, we know it won't be 523 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: close in the end, whoever wins. The Dolphins have not 524 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: played in a game this season that was decided by 525 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: thirteen points or less. In a season where games are 526 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: closer mathematically in terms of the margin of victory than 527 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: ever before in NFL history, the Dolphins haven't had one 528 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: remotely close game yet. As boring as it's not, the 529 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: season against it all fell apart total misinformation campaign see 530 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 1: that's why you ask a research notes to me seventeen 531 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: to ten the week one, leave it to me, buddy. 532 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: They had to come back and beat the Redskins. Greg's 533 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: greater point is intact, now everything has fallen apart, everything 534 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: is dark. It's mostly happen apparently it was just the 535 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: last six or seven weeks. Well, in the Campbell era, 536 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: you're not wrong there, you go alright, is one of 537 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 1: those guys that starts doing a lot of TV work 538 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: and side podcasts and then he starts losing the big picture. 539 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: Is that true? It was off a CBS graphic. It 540 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: was interesting scapegoat Greg quickly pointing figures at a neighboring network. 541 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: We'll see and DeMarco Murray, who was getting a ton 542 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: of heat earlier in the season, and he deserved. He 543 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: wasn't playing well. Had a really nice game last week. Uh, 544 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 1: and that's a couple of nice games in the last 545 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: um a few weeks. So you would think if he 546 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: is running the ball much better now, you know, we 547 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: like Ryan Matthews. It's all to me, Bradford. Ultimately, he's 548 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: got to be consistent well, and this is a perfect 549 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: matchup for you, boy, Murray and Ryan Matthews in Miami. 550 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: That was one of the most listless, soft performances by 551 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: any defense all year. They just were steamrolled by the 552 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: Bills from snap one until the end of the game. 553 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you just don't see in the NFL a 554 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: team have passing the ball twelve times because they just didn't. 555 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 1: They could do whatever they wanted on the ground the 556 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 1: entire time. It was an embarrassing game for the Dolphins defense. 557 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 1: These offenses are kind of mirror images. You've got laser 558 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: comes from the Chip Kelly offense running the Dolphins. They 559 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: both have burgeoning Russian attacks. Lamar Miller has been on fire. 560 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: Ja AGII looked really good and and could a had 561 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: a power element. The Eagles rushing attack has been on 562 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: fire as well. And then I think Bradford and Tannehill 563 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: are back to back in the low twenties on Grigg's 564 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: quarterback ranks, and they're both playing a little better recently. 565 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: Even Tannehill played financing. But it's not gonna get you excited. Yeah, 566 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: I mean, out of everybody on your quarterbacks list, I 567 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: bet he's the only hundred million dollar quarterback in that tier. 568 00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: I want to see how the Dolphins run the ball 569 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: in this scheme because they're You're right, there are a 570 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: mirror of the Eagles and the Eagles defense two d 571 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: four yards let up two weeks ago, a hundred and 572 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: thirty four last week. Typically really good front seven, but 573 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: it's not been the same past couple of games. We 574 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: all took the Eagles to take care of business and 575 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: moved to five and four. Next up to Cleveland Browns, 576 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: who are uh at two and seven, another lost season 577 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: in Cleveland. They now travel to Pittsburgh to face the Steelers. 578 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: And you know, there was the belief, the general belief 579 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: as of us going upstairs, was that Landry Jones is 580 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: going to be the starter in this game. But Ben 581 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger is making a push to get on the field 582 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: on Sunday. He's out of his walking boot. His plan 583 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: was to practice on Thursday, limited in practice on Thursday, 584 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: and when he was asked before practice about his chances 585 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: of playing on Sunday, he said, quote, I hope. So 586 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: that's how he said it too. So we might see 587 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,479 Speaker 1: Big Ben in this game. Uh, Mark, would it make 588 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,479 Speaker 1: a difference? Do you think the Browns could pull off 589 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: the upset on the road if Big Ben's out in 590 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: the picture or is this a Steelers win. Either way, 591 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: I think it's a huge difference for any team facing 592 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: the Steelers. A big Ben is replaced by anyone else 593 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: at quarterback. But I'm not sure it matters as much 594 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: with this Brown's defense because they've really not stopped anyone 595 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: since beating the Titans in Week two. But's the only 596 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: time we've seen a pass rush from this defense. The 597 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: players that were playing well last year are not playing 598 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: well this year, which is a bad sign for this 599 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: coaching staff that I would not be like, do you 600 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: mean Krueger? Yea mingo who was not great last year? 601 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: But but but Krueger, for instance, was their number one 602 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: pass rusher and they have him dropping. It's the same 603 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: thing we see in Buffalo. Hayden has been hurt, but 604 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: Hayden has not also given up almost a perfect quarterback 605 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: rating on throws in his direction. I don't think he 606 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: came into your healthy bottom line. I have to wonder 607 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: because it just sounds everything that you read coming out 608 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: of Cleveland is that this game means a lot to 609 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: Jimmy Haslum. He is the former minority owner in the 610 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: Steelers organization and You've got a coaching staff in the 611 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: front office that are come completely at odds, every report 612 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: coming out of their hands, a total toxicity. Jim. If 613 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: you if you want to have these big games and 614 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: have these big special uh feeling happy god feely moments, 615 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: you gotta put a good team on the field if 616 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: you want a good results well, and you need unity 617 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: between your players, the people who picked the players in 618 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: your coaches, and that's not happen. I wonder if this 619 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: is the end for Patton, if they don't win this 620 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: I really did, right, So there's a bye week next week. 621 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: That That's what I was gonna ask. You think that 622 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: there could be some sort of movement either with Petton 623 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: or Ray Farmer. I I think the Farmers winning and 624 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: this is strange, but I I just get the sense 625 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: that Farmers winning the tug of war inside the building 626 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: with certain people. That's crazy to me because they were 627 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: seven and four last year. It's only pett and second season. 628 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: To to dump him in the middle of his second 629 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: season seems Oh. I think it's a bad idea, but 630 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: I could see it happening. And part of the problem 631 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: is they were they're refusing to play the young players, 632 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: and I think there's just a divide and that's the 633 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: exact opposite of what the Steelers are. No matter all 634 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: the chaos that's happened to this year, look where they are. 635 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: I mean, Mike Tomlin deserves a nod for you know, 636 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: he's not always been the best coach, but to get 637 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: them to this place is a remarkable effort on their part. 638 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: We have the Steelers across the board and that one 639 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: moving on. The Chicago Bears um travel to the Edward 640 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: James Almost Home and I hope, by the way, I god, 641 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: I hope that they've covered the concrete at the Edward 642 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: James Almost Home now because they had a couple of 643 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: weeks to figure it out. Reggie Bush, there's reports that 644 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: he's following a a mega lawsuit against the city of St. 645 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: Louis after slipping on that concrete. That's the biggest storyline 646 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: for me, concrete gate. But as far as the game goes, 647 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: you have the St. Louis Rams who are sitting at 648 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: four and four. You know, they gotta start We talked 649 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: about it last week. I believe they gotta start stacking 650 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: some winds up and the Bears, they're coming off that 651 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: win over San Diego on Monday night. So a short week. St. 652 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,239 Speaker 1: Louis at home. They're the superior team. Damn it, Greg, 653 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: take care of this. Rams win some games, let's go. Yeah, 654 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: they should, and they won't win by much because the 655 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: style that they play just doesn't allow them to do so. 656 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: We've talked to Jake Cutler. Is playing pretty well, you know, Robert. Yeah, 657 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: people just look past last week, Robert Quinn and Chris Long. 658 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: We're not on the field. I mean, that's that's a big, 659 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: big difference for a Rams defense that's still playing pretty well. 660 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: I do think they will take care of business, but 661 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to pick or else they have to 662 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: put the sack. And I am just so everyone knows. 663 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: I am getting a lot of tweets people snitching on 664 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: Greg saying all these picking games on another podcast. I 665 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: don't care. You don't need to snitch on that. Uh, 666 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: that's it. I just want a little announcement. Stop telling 667 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: me that Gregg's picking games on his other podcast. I'm 668 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: not picking all the games. It's it's a bit of 669 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: a bit one time for a couple of games. It 670 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: sounds funny. I mean, you do it with a world 671 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: renowned comedian. I'm sure it's a hilarious show, so there 672 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: will be bits of plenty. It's a bit that we 673 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: had on this shot. Wasn't that a candy for the eighties? Honey? 674 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: Bunches of bits? The game of bits mark you. Without 675 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 1: getting into the specifics, there's over in the old NFL 676 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: now Mothership. Somebody's stealing some bits from this podcast on 677 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: there too. Huh wow, taking out a lot of personal Well, 678 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: I mean we see now, you see the fingerprints all 679 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,280 Speaker 1: over the place. I don't even know. Am I supposed 680 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: to get into it? No? No, no, no, no, no, 681 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: I just absolutely right. You're absolutely correct. Do you want 682 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: to talk about this game at all? Sure? Well, all 683 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: Sean Jeffrey has a quad. Indury did not practice Thursday, 684 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: and I don't think the Bears have a chance if 685 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 1: he doesn't play. When your whole offense, when your whole 686 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: passing attack is throwing off your back foot to one player, 687 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: how can you stop it? You love picking these one 688 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: little things that happened out when when he hit literally 689 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: like five third and longs that were normal throws in 690 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 1: in the in the last of that game that Zach 691 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: Miller bails him out one time, and that that was 692 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: the first was the first down play, which was an 693 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: absolutely great play by Zach Miller. But if he doesn't 694 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 1: catch that, they're still in great position. With great position 695 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: for Cutler, the throw's usual pick six on the It 696 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: really differs from quarterback to quarterback because another quarter get 697 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: credit for Hey, I know Alshon Jefferies better than everybody 698 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: else on the field. I'm gonna give him chances to 699 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: go get the ball. But with Jay Cutler it's like 700 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,439 Speaker 1: he's getting lucky thrown. Why has Jake Cutler earned any 701 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: of this? Well, the only thing I don't like is 702 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: that everyone is going crazy given Adam Gaze a crazy 703 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 1: amount of credit. Wow, he's done such a great Jobler. 704 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: People are gonna be lining up. No, this is the 705 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: Jake Cutler we've seen forever. People just change whether they 706 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 1: like or or not based on the narrative and expectations 707 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: and the fact that Adam Gaze is friendly with every reporter, 708 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: and give me a break on that. It's November, So 709 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: Gaye gets to be the hottest coaching candidate until the 710 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: interview time comes and nobody wants it h or he 711 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,280 Speaker 1: decides he doesn't want it. Or, by the way, Jeff Fisher, 712 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,479 Speaker 1: you're a total scoundrel for running the ball on third 713 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: and ten last week. I didn't notice till I re 714 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: watch this game third and ten with a minute fifty 715 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: five to go to set up. I think it was 716 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: like a fifty yard field goal to tie the game. 717 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: You're not even trying to throw on third and ten 718 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: with one do a better chance of a tan yard 719 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: game with Todd Gurley than you do with Nick Foles. 720 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: They might agree with you, but Rams reporters were going 721 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 1: absolutely crazy on Fisher about that exact. But the third 722 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 1: down issues in St. Louis have been a disaster all season. 723 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 1: What falls, By the way, I don't know who throws 724 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: the ball six yards in the air easier than Nick Foles. 725 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: Sometimes he's got he's got a big hose and they 726 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: should use it. Excuse me, It just lands, you know, 727 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: seven to ten yards away from the receiver. Nick Foles 728 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,399 Speaker 1: averaging six point seven in attempt and Todd Gurley only 729 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:44,280 Speaker 1: averaging five point six per tat pretty close last week's game, especially, 730 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: they were girly struggling to pop off some big ones. 731 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: We all took the Rams in this showdown too much. 732 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,720 Speaker 1: Confidence in St. Louis. I agree. Moving on, the Dallas 733 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: Cowboys have now lost six in a row. Will that 734 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 1: street come to an end on Sunday against the Tampa 735 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:08,280 Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers. This game being played at Wes Raymond James Stadium. 736 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: Back has really been studying up the stadium names. I've 737 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: been to Raymond James Stadium really? Yes? Why when I 738 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: first moved to Tybee, I met a bunch of Cincinnati friends, 739 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,439 Speaker 1: like thirty guys down there? I drove down to Tampa. 740 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 1: Did you go in the ship? No, you moved to 741 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: Tybee and meet thirty guys? Wait, Chris Sims, Era Bucks 742 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 1: or what? I don't recall. It was a Bengals game. 743 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: I remember hush manz Otto was still playing for the 744 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: Bengals because I was actually wearing Ruden. Maybe Cruden was 745 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 1: on that. It would have been Gordon's quarterback of the year. 746 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: He changed when he had a new one every year. 747 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: Was there were there any women in this group? No? 748 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: Isn't all guys trip? It was like all the guys 749 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,320 Speaker 1: that played softbo with way back. When do you travel 750 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: in like with thirty guys and a bus? Is it 751 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: a various cars? I drove my car from Tybee to Tampa. 752 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: They came down in a cruiser of some type. I 753 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: don't know. You can smell the farts from here on 754 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: that cruiser. This guys are gassing. You guys have never 755 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: going on a guy's trip anywhere. No, I never went 756 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 1: to Vegas, never did anything. We all how to crew 757 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: that big that that was seems daunting. I'm impressed. I 758 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: think was a bachelor party of some type. I don't know. Uh, 759 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,720 Speaker 1: in your common man credentials once again proving your common 760 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,439 Speaker 1: I don't have to prove mine, you do. I paid 761 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 1: union dudes before. This has been a big debate uh 762 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 1: in the office all week because Greg tried to put 763 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 1: me at the bottom of the common man power rankings, 764 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: which was a ludicrous thought, and put him above anyone. 765 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: I put myself fifth and you were six. Exactly. The 766 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: guy that drew a strawberry truck and gave Tennis lessons 767 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: on Martha's vineyard is ahead of It's a debate two 768 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: of you and nobody. I worked. I worked when I 769 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: was fourteen years old, the dishwasher forever, non stop. You 770 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: know you're off counting here? What do you? What do 771 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: you do? I was a cashier at shopright in Pearl River, 772 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: New York, getting fired because I couldn't like that you 773 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 1: make a long haul driving job somehow could she? Well? 774 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: What we're making up at five in the morning driving 775 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: for fifth What were delivering strawberry than at a grocery store. 776 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: I was the guy that had to take the carts 777 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,240 Speaker 1: from the the gigantic parking lot and put them stacks 778 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 1: outside and see that stuff. Worry And not to get 779 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: off topic too far, but you talk with your wife 780 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 1: about this very topic last night, Well, she had an 781 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 1: interesting skip Bayliss like contrarian take where she actually ranked 782 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: Dan number one and I was number two. But amost 783 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: she understand the concept coming up the whole group? Well 784 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 1: that is utter nonsense. Um, well, I think I think 785 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: Mark was lasting wasn't the only one to have I 786 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 1: don't have a problem with that. It's just that she's 787 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,240 Speaker 1: basically just saying that you're not the most common man person. 788 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 1: She's taking anyone she can to put above. You know, 789 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,800 Speaker 1: she said and was number one. That's what I'm saying. 790 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 1: I don't think she understands the controt. Have a chip 791 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 1: is missing here? Not being a you know, a family 792 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: man that was part of it. That that was that 793 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: was a big She's a smart woman, that's why he 794 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: married her. That is that was disastrous. I got a 795 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:20,879 Speaker 1: text at like a disastrous text, A smart, charismatic, beautiful woman. 796 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: Where were we? Oh? Yeah, West, You'll like this. Darren 797 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,840 Speaker 1: McFadden has been enjoying a career resurgence in Dallas. His 798 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: last three games resembled DeMarco Murray's production last year. Murray 799 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: average twenty four and a half carries a hundred and 800 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: fifteen yards per game rushing and four four point seven 801 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: yards per carry. McFadden is averaging twenty five carries, a 802 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 1: hundred and eleven yards rushing and four point yards four 803 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: point four yards per carry over his last three games. 804 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 1: He's the Marco Murray net. What a valuable nugget you 805 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: use that I'm hearing you correctly. You're basically saying that 806 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 1: Darren McFadden is offensive player of the year material around. 807 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: Here's what this Mark Murray one offensive one three game 808 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 1: stretch where they didn't win again, He's got to put 809 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: it together. That's the level he's playing. This is the 810 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: only thing that well. He's carrying this Cowboys team to 811 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,359 Speaker 1: six straight losses. This, This is all that angers me. West, 812 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 1: and you'll agree with me on this because I know 813 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: where you stand on the Cowboys is that if McFadden 814 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: finishes out the year like this, that means the Cowboys 815 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: are right, with all that patting themselves on the back 816 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,320 Speaker 1: in the off season, that they could let Murray go 817 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,399 Speaker 1: and find someone else to plug in. I don't want 818 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: that to happen. It also means I was right because 819 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: I said offseason that mc McFadden could just be plugged in. 820 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,839 Speaker 1: Never there was a time for West's drop. It's right there. 821 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,800 Speaker 1: It's about me, thank you. Yeah, they're running games. Certainly 822 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 1: hasn't been the problem this year, even with Randall. Mark, 823 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: what why are you pointing to me? Mark's in a 824 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 1: cough medicine coma right now, listen, I really I'm enjoying 825 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 1: listening to this debate that has waged on for seven 826 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: months about two running backs that are completely average except 827 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: for the one I get. I get that he's playing well, 828 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: but both the old Juser and the renegade connor Or 829 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 1: have picked the Cowboys to win Cowboy with the Devil again. 830 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 1: Huh yeah, Well, this is the last Tony Romo game. This, 831 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: this sneakily might be like the biggest game. If they 832 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 1: can win one game without Tony Romo, and you think 833 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: they would have a chance against the Bucks, then it 834 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: sets up for a possible run at least with I 835 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: get to two and seven. I I agreed to fork 836 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:30,320 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. It was a political move, uh, mostly because 837 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,320 Speaker 1: I think they're absolutely in the mix if they just 838 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: can take out one team before Roman gets back. But 839 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 1: times aren't out now. Moving on, the Carolina Panthers are undefeated. 840 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:40,879 Speaker 1: As you may have heard, and you may have heard 841 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,439 Speaker 1: someone say, Kim Newton m VP candidate. Yeah, of course 842 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: he is. But bring it up all the time. What 843 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 1: are people trying to get at Greg? We get it, 844 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,240 Speaker 1: he's one of the candidates to be an MVP. There's 845 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 1: only one candidate. It's not a yeah, it's not where 846 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 1: you vote for more than one player. So that's the thing. 847 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 1: If there was a vote right now, Tom Brady might 848 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 1: be unanimous, and old Mike Dobsy who had his banners 849 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,240 Speaker 1: stolen by Cam Newton, he exited the news cycle, nowhere 850 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 1: to be seen. It's not right speaking at Karma. They 851 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 1: head to Nashville to face the Tennessee Titans a matchup 852 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 1: between Cam Newton and Marcus Mariotta, who I believe I 853 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 1: saw an ALIAS research note. Uh, no Alantis for this. 854 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 1: This is Alias, not the NFL media group. Uh. That 855 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,240 Speaker 1: Mariotta became the first rookie ever to have two games 856 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,319 Speaker 1: of four touchdowns and no interceptions. That's also in our 857 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 1: NFL notes, is it? Yes? Okay, well it's hold off 858 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 1: on the song anyway. Um So, Mariotta has been a 859 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 1: gem obviously. Now he's got to put it together and 860 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 1: be a little more consistent. He hasn't put two good, 861 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 1: two really great games together in a row. I mean, 862 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,919 Speaker 1: it makes me excited to watch this team again seeing 863 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 1: what he did last week. This could be the best 864 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 1: one o'clock game out there. Sneakily, I think it could. 865 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,359 Speaker 1: I think that there could be a lot of big 866 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 1: upsets this week in this this certainly wow. So if 867 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 1: I hear you correctly, you are predicting the Titans to 868 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 1: beat the Panthers. I think the Titans and the Chiefs, 869 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 1: they're both the two big upsets I took this week 870 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 1: that I like, We'll get to that later. I think 871 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 1: it's just with with tennessee how different they are with 872 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 1: Mariota on the field. That how what better way to 873 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 1: advertise his value to this franchise. That Mike mullarkey looked 874 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 1: like a good coach last week down the stretch once 875 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 1: by the time Dan Campbell looked good too. He's got 876 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 1: to give these things a couple of weeks. Well, I 877 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 1: would take Mariota over Ryan Tannehill in a New York minute. 878 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,359 Speaker 1: Really I would too. Well, you know what, we could 879 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,280 Speaker 1: be wrong about these things because we'd say this about 880 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks two or three years in. Right, 881 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 1: we were about Derek Carr, don't pull back the curtain. 882 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 1: But but with Mariota, to me, I just from watching him, 883 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 1: he's so fun to watch that you're right about the 884 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: potential upset because we just don't know what the ceiling 885 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 1: is with him on the field yet he's not played enough. 886 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 1: Of course that was against New Orleans. Yeah, and this 887 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 1: is one of the best defenses in the league, certainly 888 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 1: one of the best secondary. So if he can he 889 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: can look good in this game, that that really shows 890 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 1: you something. Yeah, I think it's I can't pick the 891 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,800 Speaker 1: Titans to win this game because just because the Panthers 892 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 1: are so much of a stronger team. Like you said, 893 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: it's night and day one from the Saints to the Panthers. 894 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 1: The Saints right now are one of the worst defenses 895 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 1: in NFL history. I mean because what one of these 896 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 1: narratives was, Oh, Malarkey came in and he just fixed 897 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 1: that offensive line a lot of patches and look at 898 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 1: no sacks. Well, you played a team that doesn't really 899 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: get at the quarterback. You're gonna if you can get 900 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 1: out of the Carolina game with one or two sacks, 901 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,760 Speaker 1: that's realistic. Then we do know the line is playing differently. 902 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,800 Speaker 1: He did do some legitimate things in terms of his lineup, 903 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 1: like playing Dorial Green Beckham that look perfect targets for 904 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 1: the first time the field, and he's going to be 905 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 1: a factor. He'll only run about his routes correctly. But 906 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 1: that's but at least you m a cod back in 907 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,360 Speaker 1: the lineup. Yes, I was about to say this is 908 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,839 Speaker 1: stil fat David Cobb or is he dat back to normal? 909 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 1: We took the Panthers across the board in this game. Yes, 910 00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 1: and it was a good news bad news situation for 911 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 1: the Round. The NFL pod cast this week is David 912 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:06,879 Speaker 1: Cobb was activated off r boomerang. But to make room 913 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 1: for David Cobb, we had to say goodbye. In Nashville. 914 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:20,720 Speaker 1: Clipboard Jesus. Charlie Whitehurst, who's run as the charismatic backup 915 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 1: quarterback and for the Titans, has come to an end 916 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 1: after several years. The man that was named to one 917 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 1: of the hottest bachelors in Nashville a few years ago 918 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 1: in a magazine, Uh, no longer can that be accurate 919 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 1: because Nashville Lifestyles Lifestyles magazine, and now he'll have to 920 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:45,399 Speaker 1: Now Ladies in Indianapolis claimed on Waivers on Thursday, he'll 921 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,919 Speaker 1: be directly backing up Hasselbeck forty years old. Clipboard, Charlie 922 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 1: could see some bus. He'll always those sweet licks that 923 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 1: he laid down on the Glysyene track. That's always knna 924 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 1: he should be alive. Yeah, we the reason if if 925 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,440 Speaker 1: you're a new listener, because that wouldn't make any sense. 926 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 1: I just realized, Um, Charlie Whitehurst. I always thought he 927 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 1: was a guy that had so much time and was 928 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,319 Speaker 1: a laid back dude that he probably is learning how 929 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,799 Speaker 1: to play acoustic guitar. In the first song you probably 930 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 1: learned was Glysserene because it's an easy song to learn 931 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 1: by Bush, and then we read like a few weeks 932 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,960 Speaker 1: later that he was in fact learning how to play 933 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 1: the acoustic guitar. I don't know about the Bush thing, 934 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 1: but she try to get him on the podcast takes 935 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 1: a lot of flak. He has figured out he may 936 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 1: be one of the smartest people in the NFL. You 937 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 1: want to be a good quarterback, but not too good. 938 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 1: Drafted in two thousand six, doesn't register a stat until 939 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,800 Speaker 1: two thousand and ten, and continues he was not on 940 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 1: the breadline for more than twenty four hours. And interesting, right, 941 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:43,960 Speaker 1: he will work for that. He cannot be killed. He'll 942 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,520 Speaker 1: work for the next five years. He's made millions of 943 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 1: dollars and pretty much critique free. We know he stinks, 944 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter. He keeps getting work. But you 945 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 1: know who also will be playing for the next five 946 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 1: or six, like Aaron Rodgers and Philip Rivers with all this, Yeah, 947 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,799 Speaker 1: but so of that interesting window into the Sessler mind 948 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,480 Speaker 1: that you would rather be Charlie Whitehurst than Philip Rivers. Well, 949 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,239 Speaker 1: it's interesting into the mind of Greg Rosenthal putting words 950 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 1: in someone's mouth that would never want to be Charlie Whitehurst. 951 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 1: I'm just saying. I'm saying there's someone that probably recognizes 952 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,839 Speaker 1: that he's not a premier quarterback. He has carved out 953 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 1: a perfect niche and a lot of backup quarterbacks do 954 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,440 Speaker 1: well for themselves. Isn't this a double standard you have 955 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:28,960 Speaker 1: with Charlie Whitehurst and Matt Flynn. That's Matt Flynn bothered 956 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,240 Speaker 1: me for one specific reason. And it was even earlier 957 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 1: this summer when people were saying, and I'm not going 958 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 1: to say who was someone in NFL media crowing about 959 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 1: how they take Matt Flynn over Mark Sanchez or anyone else. 960 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 1: And it's like Matt Flynn's arm has not been healthy 961 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 1: for half a decade and he keeps getting paid. Charlie Whitehurst, 962 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,280 Speaker 1: he just doesn't have a good arm. It's not because 963 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,360 Speaker 1: if he's not healthy, he's he knows what his limit is. 964 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 1: It is. It is a tad shaky, But both of 965 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,279 Speaker 1: these guys get paid way more than their worth, and 966 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 1: that's to them, to their credit. Me see your point, 967 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 1: Nobody is propping up Charlie Whitehurst as some kind of 968 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,480 Speaker 1: new generation great backup quarterback like they are with Matt Flynn. 969 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,920 Speaker 1: One random guy downstairs now there are a lot of 970 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 1: people that every time Matt Flynn's name come up, people 971 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 1: act like he's still a great quarterback. I know exactly 972 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,719 Speaker 1: who you're talking about. I don't want to say his name, 973 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,480 Speaker 1: but acting like he has two thousand and eleven you're 974 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 1: talking about. Just like early in the season, this was 975 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,279 Speaker 1: this guy who works for NFL media was acting like 976 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 1: he's a great back. To full whoever you are, mhm, 977 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 1: super Bowl champion, I believe. Al Right, well, that's a 978 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 1: lot of people that that doesn't narrow it down any 979 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:42,480 Speaker 1: other hints. Who's the big Matt Flynn supporter in this Oh? 980 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:47,960 Speaker 1: I know who it is? Probably next topic, alright, moving 981 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,359 Speaker 1: on the New Orleans Saints. Uh, you know, coming off 982 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:55,759 Speaker 1: a bad loss, now travel to Washington to face the Redskin. 983 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 1: So it's a four and five Saints team. They need 984 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,480 Speaker 1: this win, they need to stay in that the mix, 985 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,359 Speaker 1: the playoff mix. The Redskins. I don't know. I think 986 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 1: they stink. Really, they're just playing for you know, that 987 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 1: old Washington pride if you will not really I mean 988 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 1: the only one game back, yeah, column, But if you 989 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,319 Speaker 1: want to look at it that way, yeah, sure, go ahead, great, 990 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,880 Speaker 1: get excited about the Redskins. No, I'm not excited at all. 991 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 1: They're getting what they deserved, and uh, this is this 992 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 1: is not a big game, but it's a big game 993 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 1: to these two teams because the winner of it can 994 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,719 Speaker 1: still convince themselves and still feel like they're really in 995 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,000 Speaker 1: the mix, whereas the loser of this game is really 996 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 1: far back at this point and hard to really imagine 997 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,359 Speaker 1: making any sort of run. Well, I think what West 998 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,839 Speaker 1: and I liked about the Redskins earlier in the year. 999 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 1: The first four games they ran for about a hundred 1000 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 1: and fifty five hundred and sixty yards a game and 1001 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,880 Speaker 1: looked much tougher than anyone expected. And also on defense, 1002 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 1: last four games, they're averaging under fifty yards rushing and 1003 00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,840 Speaker 1: that's putting more pressure on Kirk Cousins. And the offense 1004 00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 1: is just sort of crumbling, and your so called playmakers 1005 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,680 Speaker 1: are not living up to the promise. You're referring to 1006 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,759 Speaker 1: the version of the Redskins before Matt Jones went off 1007 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 1: to live in the woods somewhere like Sure, when it 1008 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 1: seemed like they had two serviceable backs, an exciting offense 1009 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,320 Speaker 1: and Kirk Cousin just needed to do just enough. And 1010 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,800 Speaker 1: now everything's gone south. We did a hit on NFL 1011 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,200 Speaker 1: Network where we debated whether Matt Jones was gonna be 1012 00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,400 Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year, and well, we were pretty optimistic 1013 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,359 Speaker 1: about that possibility. I burned the tape. Maybe that's why 1014 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 1: he took us off NFL Network. He might be back 1015 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 1: in the race after this matchup. Oh, I like that 1016 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,120 Speaker 1: Matt Jones come back right here. Well, anybody in the 1017 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 1: Redskins could get healthy in this game. I mean, the 1018 00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,720 Speaker 1: Saints are just did you guys see that Deshaun Jackson 1019 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,800 Speaker 1: gave j Gruden a purple nerple in Redskins practice? That 1020 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,759 Speaker 1: was one of my favorite moments of the season. An 1021 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:53,120 Speaker 1: old twister kim edging like Ray Nitchy coming up and 1022 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:57,359 Speaker 1: doing that. The Vince Lombardi No, somebody downstairs and might 1023 00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 1: have been us said, what if of Grant did that too? 1024 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,800 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick? I said, Well, Bill Belichick's nipple would be 1025 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:11,720 Speaker 1: ripped off, an old nipple pinch from the gronk wouldn't 1026 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,080 Speaker 1: be fun. If West is right and this happens, I 1027 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 1: don't like to go down this road, but this could 1028 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:18,799 Speaker 1: be the end of Rob Ryan. They have a bye 1029 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 1: week after this game, and this guy's feels like he's 1030 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 1: about on the thinnest ice around, right Sean Payton this week? 1031 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 1: Maybe the analogy if your student gets a dion A test, 1032 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,719 Speaker 1: at some point you gotta say, did you do a 1033 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 1: good enough job teaching the subject matter. It's a lot 1034 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,400 Speaker 1: like your children. If you're seeing them at the grocer, 1035 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,319 Speaker 1: you see the same kid at the grocery acting up 1036 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,880 Speaker 1: five times, at some point you gotta start looking at 1037 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 1: the parent and my kids. I'm thinking he's talking about 1038 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,200 Speaker 1: Rob Ryan, of course, but he really should be thinking. 1039 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 1: I'm the teacher. You know, I'm the parent. I keep 1040 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,960 Speaker 1: hiring these defensive coordinators that have no idea how to 1041 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 1: fix things. I keep, you know, blaming my defensive coordinator. 1042 00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,600 Speaker 1: Spagnola has the worst one in NFL history. Rob Ryan 1043 00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,239 Speaker 1: has the worst one in NFL history. And now you 1044 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 1: know what's the commonality. It's Sean Payton. That's fair. Let's 1045 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,759 Speaker 1: throwing Greg Williams, who gets you a franchise into a 1046 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 1: turmoil that goes you know, it takes you down for 1047 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 1: three I got you one of those rings. They would 1048 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 1: take that trade. Sure. I was the only one in 1049 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 1: the group to take the Saints in this game. Wow, 1050 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. Fan consensus went Saints. That's always 1051 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,080 Speaker 1: nice to get a hero pick on a fan consense. Yes, 1052 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,839 Speaker 1: and there's also another hint to common man regular Joe 1053 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:29,799 Speaker 1: status moving efficacy right there, You and the fans are 1054 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 1: on the same first. Moving on the to the late 1055 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,239 Speaker 1: games in the Minnesota Vikings or six and two, and 1056 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,560 Speaker 1: it could be debated if they are a a good team. Well, 1057 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,399 Speaker 1: they're a good team. I don't know if anybody's gonna 1058 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,439 Speaker 1: not debate that, but are they are really a true 1059 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 1: six and two team that would be considered a great team? 1060 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,800 Speaker 1: Who knows? They have a nice test though on on 1061 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,360 Speaker 1: Sunday against the Oakland Raiders. This game will be played 1062 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,400 Speaker 1: at the Black Hole. And uh, to me, this is 1063 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,160 Speaker 1: one of the games of the week because it's two 1064 00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 1: teams where we're still trying to figure out who they 1065 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,839 Speaker 1: are are. Are they teams that are ready to make 1066 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,520 Speaker 1: the leap or are they not ready? I got a 1067 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,279 Speaker 1: feeling one of these teams is gonna make a big 1068 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,919 Speaker 1: statement on Sunday. What about us? Yeah? I I can't 1069 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,799 Speaker 1: think of a player where we were more wrong about 1070 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,080 Speaker 1: than Derek Carr. And when I watched him, and and 1071 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,200 Speaker 1: he's got everything. Last year he couldn't move the offense, 1072 00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 1: and now he's got touch, he's got a cannon arm, 1073 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,200 Speaker 1: he can move in the pocket, he can throw on 1074 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 1: the run, he can throw from the pocket, he can 1075 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 1: make every throw on the field and makes guys like 1076 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,560 Speaker 1: Michael Crabtree better. Crabtree's played awesome this year. You know 1077 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,800 Speaker 1: what the lesson is, and it's not just us, but 1078 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,080 Speaker 1: everyone is to let a rookie be a rookie is 1079 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,319 Speaker 1: think it's a long game with these quarterbacks, and he's 1080 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 1: showing really major growth in year two. When I wrote 1081 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 1: a piece over the offseason redrafting the quarterbacks from this class, 1082 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,320 Speaker 1: I had Bridgewater number one by a long shot. That 1083 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 1: was very conventional wisdom. Bucky Brookstead, a redraft of the 1084 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:55,399 Speaker 1: entire two thousand and fourteen draft, put Bridgewater number one. 1085 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,480 Speaker 1: I had Car way back. I was way wrong on 1086 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,399 Speaker 1: Car and had him very low at quarterback. And you're 1087 00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,200 Speaker 1: right for all those reasons and at this point though, 1088 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,160 Speaker 1: but at this point, he is so far ahead of 1089 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,319 Speaker 1: Bridgewater and Borders is what I was that I wanted 1090 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,080 Speaker 1: to say. But it's also a lesson that scouts and 1091 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 1: coaches have their jobs for a reason, because they were 1092 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,280 Speaker 1: almost unanimous in thinking that Car was the best rookie 1093 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,279 Speaker 1: of all those guys. I think it's just you're not 1094 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:23,920 Speaker 1: wrong to have looked at Car unfavorably after last season 1095 00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,240 Speaker 1: based on that season. But when we write these guys 1096 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,520 Speaker 1: off and just say it's done well, no one said that, well, 1097 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,359 Speaker 1: but there is I'm not saying we did, but there's 1098 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 1: a lot of that in general. Players that are you 1099 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 1: know in the first, second, third season that if they 1100 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,080 Speaker 1: haven't produced, and a lot of times it's on teams, 1101 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,680 Speaker 1: a lot of chaos going on, that they're done there 1102 00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,800 Speaker 1: would have no value, and then they're proven wrong. It's like, 1103 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,640 Speaker 1: maybe these players deserve a little bit longer of a 1104 00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,880 Speaker 1: leash than this. I think Bill Musker is doing a 1105 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,239 Speaker 1: great job. I mean he's seen which is surprising. He's 1106 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:56,120 Speaker 1: having open receivers. I mean he's finding open receivers. He's 1107 00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,240 Speaker 1: very common the pocket and he goes through the secondary 1108 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 1: receivers and the offense of line, which played really well 1109 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,520 Speaker 1: for him last year. I thought that was one of 1110 00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 1: the reasons why I was down on Cars because people 1111 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 1: people were wrong about his protection. He got protected very 1112 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,520 Speaker 1: well last year he's he doesn't get sacked. He's in 1113 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,480 Speaker 1: the top five in the NFL since he entered the 1114 00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,320 Speaker 1: league in the fewest amount of sacks per snap and 1115 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,960 Speaker 1: the fewest amount of interception. So that's what a veteran does. 1116 00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,920 Speaker 1: This game is interesting because obviously Oakland's offense has is 1117 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:23,960 Speaker 1: fun to watch and it's not been the case in 1118 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 1: a decade, but Minnesota's defense has flown under the radar 1119 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 1: as well. And you know, it's a team that we 1120 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 1: we look at what they've done six and two and 1121 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:34,919 Speaker 1: it's quick to write them off. But if they're gonna 1122 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:36,920 Speaker 1: hang around, I think it's gonna be because of their defense. 1123 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:38,960 Speaker 1: There's no question they have a much better defense than 1124 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,520 Speaker 1: the Raiders, who just gave up their most points enfranchise 1125 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,839 Speaker 1: history at Pittsburgh. And then with the Vikings, you got 1126 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:48,640 Speaker 1: Harrison Smith, Lynn, Joe lyn Vaal Joseph who's Joe one 1127 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,799 Speaker 1: of the best nose tackles in the NFL, and Anthony Barr. 1128 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,240 Speaker 1: So you've got some really good young talent in Minnesota. 1129 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,640 Speaker 1: Involt Joseph's coming off one of the best games any 1130 00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:00,080 Speaker 1: players had at any position all season. He looked like 1131 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:06,000 Speaker 1: a man. Dren unbelievable performance. We all took the Raiders 1132 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,520 Speaker 1: except for Connor or the Renegade went with the Vikings. Um. 1133 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,520 Speaker 1: So we'll see how that plays. And it does look 1134 00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,359 Speaker 1: like Teddy Bridgewater, who has not been i would say 1135 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,560 Speaker 1: playing his best this year, has not kept up the 1136 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,560 Speaker 1: momentum from the end last seas. It does look like 1137 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,440 Speaker 1: he's gonna play despite having been concussed last week. Do 1138 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:28,040 Speaker 1: you see the Mike Zimmer NFL films. Yes, Uh, he 1139 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:32,560 Speaker 1: had one of my favorite quotes. I won't um, we'll 1140 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,000 Speaker 1: be able to say it because I don't want to 1141 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,480 Speaker 1: make Sydney do any more extra work today. But his 1142 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,360 Speaker 1: quote was because I'm going to use it in the 1143 00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,800 Speaker 1: end around, which you could read on Friday morning everybody 1144 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:48,640 Speaker 1: NFL dot com slash there you go. Uh. His quote 1145 00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,919 Speaker 1: was f you f me, he screamed after he first 1146 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:55,560 Speaker 1: saw the hit and ran on the field. I didn't 1147 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,520 Speaker 1: even know what it meant, but he was like, he's 1148 00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,600 Speaker 1: fired up. That's he's the man. We love that guy. Uh. 1149 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,640 Speaker 1: Moving on, the Kansas City Chiefs are three and five. 1150 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,520 Speaker 1: You know, we're talking them out. We're saying they're frisky, 1151 00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna really give some team some trouble 1152 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,760 Speaker 1: down the stretch. Well, how about banged up Denver Broncos team. Uh, 1153 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:13,880 Speaker 1: coming off their first loss of the season, did not 1154 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,280 Speaker 1: play well and the loss to the Colts. Uh. And 1155 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,120 Speaker 1: they will be without a keep to leave obviously, uh 1156 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,480 Speaker 1: their corner who was suspended because of the eye gouge. 1157 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,439 Speaker 1: They will be without DeMarcus Ware who has the lower 1158 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,000 Speaker 1: back injury that's gonna cost him some time. Uh. So 1159 00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,800 Speaker 1: this is a team, especially on the DEFENSEI defensive side 1160 00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,160 Speaker 1: of the ball that is not a top strength. Uh. 1161 00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,320 Speaker 1: Do you smell a upset, Greg Rosenhal, I do. I 1162 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:38,960 Speaker 1: think the Chiefs are gonna find a way to win 1163 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:42,160 Speaker 1: this game. They were playing, they're playing really well before 1164 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,560 Speaker 1: the bye there somehow their two best performances of the 1165 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,920 Speaker 1: season on offense came without Jamal Charles in the lineup. 1166 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 1: And I think the defense we've been talking up really 1167 00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 1: all year, really the last month of the year. I 1168 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,200 Speaker 1: would they guess throw away September, But the last month 1169 00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,760 Speaker 1: of the year, their defense has been a top five 1170 00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,360 Speaker 1: type of defense. Yeah, they were picked on, they had 1171 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,760 Speaker 1: their nickelbacks picked on early. But now that Sean Smith's 1172 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,680 Speaker 1: been back. There hasn't been a real weakness back there, 1173 00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,120 Speaker 1: and they get past rush and they and they've been 1174 00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,320 Speaker 1: stopping rushers to which they didn't earlier year. They should 1175 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 1: have beaten Denver the first time around in Kansas City. 1176 00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 1: They really outplayed them, but they turned the ball over 1177 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,160 Speaker 1: with four or five times in that game. Uh So, 1178 00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,680 Speaker 1: I think this is a very even matchup between similar 1179 00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:24,440 Speaker 1: teams and weak armed quarterbacks who moved the ball slowly 1180 00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,280 Speaker 1: down the field, playing who are both playing a little 1181 00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,640 Speaker 1: better lately, and and really good defenses. I know that people, 1182 00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:35,400 Speaker 1: Uh there was a quick backlash because we I mentioned 1183 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,760 Speaker 1: and I thought this Denver defense could wind up being 1184 00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,320 Speaker 1: the next version of the eighty five Bears and the 1185 00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,640 Speaker 1: two thousand Ravens, and maybe that was premature, But I 1186 00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,720 Speaker 1: think that last week is going to be viewed more 1187 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,840 Speaker 1: as an aberration than a trend for their for their defense, 1188 00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,480 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna bounce back. The eight five Bears 1189 00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,920 Speaker 1: had a stretch where they gave up four hundred and 1190 00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,560 Speaker 1: forty five yards, three hundred and seventy six and three 1191 00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,320 Speaker 1: hundred seventy three, and they had other games where they 1192 00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:04,120 Speaker 1: didn't look so hot that season. I had a lot 1193 01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,800 Speaker 1: to do with their playoff push, which was utterly dominant 1194 01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:10,720 Speaker 1: and completely same with the Ravens. So I have no 1195 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,760 Speaker 1: problem with defense getting solved. A couple of weeks during 1196 01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:18,000 Speaker 1: the campaign, Denver's defenses heads and tails above other teams, 1197 01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 1: and nothing about the Chiefs offense tells me that they're 1198 01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:24,440 Speaker 1: going to be the team that's gonna come do what 1199 01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:29,960 Speaker 1: the Cults did last week. Travis Kelsey. Maybe I like Kelsey, 1200 01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:31,800 Speaker 1: we all do, but you need but they've had them 1201 01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:36,240 Speaker 1: all season. Kelsey has been a little bit disappointing this year, especially. 1202 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,960 Speaker 1: He started off really well and he's having a nice 1203 01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,120 Speaker 1: enough season, but this is by no means been the 1204 01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,680 Speaker 1: next taking the Leap season where he's heads the shoulders 1205 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:48,680 Speaker 1: over everyone that's not named Gronk for over a thousand 1206 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,360 Speaker 1: yards for a tight end. That's a great season. Yeah, 1207 01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:53,560 Speaker 1: but has he blown you away on a week to 1208 01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,440 Speaker 1: week basis. He's got Alex Smith throwing to him, right, 1209 01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,480 Speaker 1: I think he's part of it is the product of 1210 01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,120 Speaker 1: that offense, which is going to If you put Kelsey 1211 01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,320 Speaker 1: on the Patriots, we'd all know who he is, well, 1212 01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,920 Speaker 1: we all do, but other people with Alright, moving on, Uh, 1213 01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:14,760 Speaker 1: this is a kickoff the eight no New England Patriots. Oh, Greg, 1214 01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:19,080 Speaker 1: another another great feast of the eyeballs on the old 1215 01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:23,280 Speaker 1: throne of ease. They now travel They got some revenge 1216 01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,880 Speaker 1: on the mind because they're traveling to the Meadowlands to 1217 01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,600 Speaker 1: face the New York Giants. Who here's a little I 1218 01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,560 Speaker 1: don't need the research guy for this, West West and 1219 01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,720 Speaker 1: Greg Mark, They last two Super Bowl losses for the 1220 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:40,160 Speaker 1: Patriots have been to Eliman, Tom Coughlin and the New 1221 01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:44,200 Speaker 1: York Giants. That is that's just history, baby. I think 1222 01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,360 Speaker 1: those are the only two people from that two thousand 1223 01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,880 Speaker 1: seven teams still on the Giants. There's been a lot 1224 01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:52,800 Speaker 1: of turnover. Um, so yes, historically these two teams will 1225 01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,360 Speaker 1: always be linked. But the Patriots are a much better 1226 01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,880 Speaker 1: team than the Giants. So it's not gonna have been 1227 01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,439 Speaker 1: a close game, is it, Greg? Look, the Giants will 1228 01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,000 Speaker 1: always have me a little spooked as a Patriots games. 1229 01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,360 Speaker 1: They also beat him during the regular season in two thousands. 1230 01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,080 Speaker 1: Great game that I would think. I think you're thinking 1231 01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,320 Speaker 1: a two thousand seven games. I'm thinking the two thousand 1232 01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,320 Speaker 1: and eleven game. Was it about a mid season game? 1233 01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,920 Speaker 1: Twenty four twenty? Yeah, it was a good game. They 1234 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:18,800 Speaker 1: were both right. I love that game so much. Why 1235 01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,919 Speaker 1: don't you marry it? Uh? This is a game where 1236 01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,000 Speaker 1: Jason Pierre Poss should loom large if he's a pass 1237 01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,360 Speaker 1: or if he's back to being himself even a little bit. 1238 01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,320 Speaker 1: They're down to their number four and their number five 1239 01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:32,840 Speaker 1: tackles right now, so you're saying the throne of ease. 1240 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,520 Speaker 1: They're missing their top three tackles. They're missing Louis, they 1241 01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,720 Speaker 1: might be missing Jamie Collins, and I think they're vulnerable 1242 01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:40,760 Speaker 1: to a pass rush at this point if if someone 1243 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,920 Speaker 1: can get one going. Yeah, the Patriots are missing all 1244 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,040 Speaker 1: of that stuff and the Giants are missing pass rushers. 1245 01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,200 Speaker 1: I think if you talk to the Giants, they'll say 1246 01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,440 Speaker 1: they were happy with what they saw from JPP, and 1247 01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,840 Speaker 1: the fact that he played so much tells you a lot. 1248 01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,480 Speaker 1: I guess it's gonna be this would be like you're saying, 1249 01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,440 Speaker 1: it's a good test if he if he's is a 1250 01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,480 Speaker 1: mismatch physically against some these Patriots lines, but let's see 1251 01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,480 Speaker 1: if he can still play with basically one hand. I 1252 01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,920 Speaker 1: think he looked as good at the end of the 1253 01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,840 Speaker 1: game as he did at the beginning, although nothing was 1254 01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:10,920 Speaker 1: super special about him, but who was asking that in 1255 01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,400 Speaker 1: his first game back? For me, that what I want 1256 01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:16,880 Speaker 1: to watch is because after the Dean Lewis, the role 1257 01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:22,120 Speaker 1: that he played, they've got James White and you know McDaniels, 1258 01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,600 Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels said this week he's prepared. We've prepared him 1259 01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,720 Speaker 1: for this like he's still gonna be he We're gonna 1260 01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:29,880 Speaker 1: still use that role as a big part of our offense. 1261 01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:34,000 Speaker 1: I need to see it first, because nothing that I've 1262 01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,800 Speaker 1: ever seen from James White suggests that he's even one 1263 01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,520 Speaker 1: eight of Dean Lewis. Well, they already had a game 1264 01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,920 Speaker 1: like this earlier this season. Dean Lewis missed the game 1265 01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,240 Speaker 1: against the Jets. I believe it was that was and 1266 01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,240 Speaker 1: James White had that role and he didn't impress. He 1267 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:48,960 Speaker 1: didn't do a lot book it. Though James White will 1268 01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:53,600 Speaker 1: have a touchdown of this game, A touchdown him, I 1269 01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,440 Speaker 1: don't work. I don't think the defense that gave up 1270 01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:58,640 Speaker 1: seven touchdown to Drew Brees is gonna be the one 1271 01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,000 Speaker 1: to hold the Patriots under thirty. I'm gonna throw this 1272 01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:02,800 Speaker 1: out there. I got that I had a settler on this. 1273 01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:04,640 Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago. I'm gonna throw it out 1274 01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:16,120 Speaker 1: there again, west Odell Beckham, those spoilers. O. D. B 1275 01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,360 Speaker 1: is gonna go nuts again and make this a game. 1276 01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,040 Speaker 1: I agree, Patriots are way better than the Giants. But 1277 01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,840 Speaker 1: what are the great things about Beckham? You know, it's 1278 01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:25,440 Speaker 1: a little too much with the off the field stuff, 1279 01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,240 Speaker 1: and you know the Wall Street Journal profile this week 1280 01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,800 Speaker 1: that he's doing everything lefty off the off the field 1281 01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,960 Speaker 1: to become more ambidextrous. Cute buddy, but you know, just 1282 01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,040 Speaker 1: enough is enough. But I will say this one thing 1283 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:38,840 Speaker 1: I do love about him as a players. He does 1284 01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:42,520 Speaker 1: seem to rise uh and get better when the spotlight 1285 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:44,360 Speaker 1: is brighter. And this will be a game against the 1286 01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,200 Speaker 1: mighty Patriots where I expect him to thrive. Let's say 1287 01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:53,440 Speaker 1: one seventy one seven catches and two touchdowns. I'll go 1288 01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:57,120 Speaker 1: like Tang and catches for a hundred and seventy two touchdowns. 1289 01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:59,520 Speaker 1: He made one note though, He said that if all 1290 01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:01,800 Speaker 1: the team is that they play, that when you go 1291 01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,760 Speaker 1: watch all the film on New England's defense, that with 1292 01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:06,720 Speaker 1: other teams, that prepares you for what you're going to 1293 01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:10,000 Speaker 1: see on the field, and that with New England, no 1294 01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,680 Speaker 1: idea that they're going to find a way to play 1295 01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,040 Speaker 1: him in a way that he's got no evidence of 1296 01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,000 Speaker 1: going into the game. That would be the counterpoint to 1297 01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:20,480 Speaker 1: Dan and me that Bill Belichick specializes in taking away 1298 01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:23,400 Speaker 1: the one thing in offense does. Well, perhaps you're gonna 1299 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,080 Speaker 1: do to stop him. I was gonna Malcolm Butler and 1300 01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:28,680 Speaker 1: Devon McCarty. Maybe a game. Who else is gonna beat us? 1301 01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,080 Speaker 1: With the other guys, where's cruise? I don't think will 1302 01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,240 Speaker 1: Tie is gonna beat you. Well, one way to stop 1303 01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:34,920 Speaker 1: them is to get up thirty to nothing, and it 1304 01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,840 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what Odell Beckham doesn't garbage time, I think 1305 01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:39,760 Speaker 1: this is gonna be a close game. I was thinking 1306 01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,200 Speaker 1: about that's when s Beckham stats are coming in. Garbage 1307 01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,000 Speaker 1: does no win game really for the Patriots, because you 1308 01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,439 Speaker 1: know you would, really, except for the victory, they're gonna 1309 01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:49,720 Speaker 1: have to lose to the Giants. Well, but it doesn't. 1310 01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:54,280 Speaker 1: It's gonna feel empty. It's not gonna change anything. Two eleven, Well, 1311 01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:56,720 Speaker 1: I love the concept of nine and oh feeling empty 1312 01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,800 Speaker 1: when we get there, Dan and I as Jetson Brown's 1313 01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:01,840 Speaker 1: fan to like you know how it feels, Yeah, exactly, 1314 01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:05,880 Speaker 1: We all picked the Giants. Now next, just kidding, making 1315 01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:07,360 Speaker 1: sure you guys are on your toes. We all picked 1316 01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:11,960 Speaker 1: the Patriots, moving on the Arizona Cardinals and the Seahattle Seahawks. 1317 01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,479 Speaker 1: One of the best Sunday Night games of the year. 1318 01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,760 Speaker 1: Al Michael's and Chris Collinsworth with the call on NBC. 1319 01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:23,520 Speaker 1: You got miss Blondie what's her Name? Singing the intro song, 1320 01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:28,720 Speaker 1: Oh what's her faith? Hill? No, No, no, No, Carry Underwood? 1321 01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,200 Speaker 1: Thank you the same, Miss Blondie. You were the one 1322 01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:35,000 Speaker 1: leading the carry Underwood bandwagon a couple of years. That 1323 01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,000 Speaker 1: is surprising. You were one of the few people that 1324 01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:42,160 Speaker 1: enjoyed that. You've been enjoyed her listless performances, um and 1325 01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,680 Speaker 1: awkward dancing. They need to get rid of the waiting 1326 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:47,840 Speaker 1: all day for Sunday night song. They got a scrap 1327 01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,000 Speaker 1: agree more. There's a reason why the Monday you know, 1328 01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:53,600 Speaker 1: just to get a sidetrack a little bit here. There's 1329 01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,280 Speaker 1: a reason why the Monday Night Football with Hank Williams Jr. 1330 01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,840 Speaker 1: It did well because people liked the song on some level, 1331 01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:01,680 Speaker 1: at least a segment of the population, and it had 1332 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,560 Speaker 1: some legs. Culturally, no one likes the waiting all day 1333 01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:07,320 Speaker 1: for Sunday Nightland song. So just scrap it and get 1334 01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:11,280 Speaker 1: another song if you maybe Carrie Underwood will benefit from it. 1335 01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:14,960 Speaker 1: It's the same reason why Prianka's song Come to My 1336 01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:17,560 Speaker 1: City was such a big hit and that people loved 1337 01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,880 Speaker 1: it on NFL network because just that're literally the only 1338 01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:23,760 Speaker 1: person that even remembered that in my city. It was 1339 01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,680 Speaker 1: terrific liked it. We were on board with Prianka before 1340 01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:28,360 Speaker 1: anyone else. Now she has like a hit show on 1341 01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:31,520 Speaker 1: ABC UM and she's also the biggest Bollywood star on 1342 01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:33,400 Speaker 1: the planet, I believe, But we were ahead of it. 1343 01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:37,640 Speaker 1: Nothing for us. Our old producer Ky Ridge spent like 1344 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,520 Speaker 1: multiple man hours trying to set up a interview with 1345 01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,440 Speaker 1: her with us, but it didn't happen anyway. So here 1346 01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,840 Speaker 1: is the game of NFC West really on the line, 1347 01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,800 Speaker 1: because if the if the Seahawks don't hold court at 1348 01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:53,160 Speaker 1: home here and uh and the Cardinals moved to seven 1349 01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:56,840 Speaker 1: and too, goodbye division unless there's some type of Carson 1350 01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:00,480 Speaker 1: Palmer calamity around the corner. Uh. And also, if the 1351 01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:03,600 Speaker 1: Cardinals win this game in Seattle, that is Mark Sessler 1352 01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:06,760 Speaker 1: a statement by the Cardinals, who we already know are 1353 01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,120 Speaker 1: a very very good team. They knock off a desperate 1354 01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:15,760 Speaker 1: Seattle team and they're great. I think it's very possible, 1355 01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,200 Speaker 1: and I'd give a lot of credit to Steve Kim, 1356 01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:21,760 Speaker 1: the general manager, became Last year at this time after 1357 01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:24,559 Speaker 1: eight games, you were up on the Seahawks by two games. 1358 01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:28,479 Speaker 1: But the stretch run had no Carson Palmer and they 1359 01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:31,599 Speaker 1: couldn't run the ball. Their offense completely went into the trash. 1360 01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:34,559 Speaker 1: This year, look how different it is. Carson Palmer's back 1361 01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,200 Speaker 1: playing the best football of his life, and you are. 1362 01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,360 Speaker 1: You are a three pronged run attack that can hit teams, 1363 01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,200 Speaker 1: and defense is in a different way. This team is 1364 01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,479 Speaker 1: built to go to the end of the season. This 1365 01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,800 Speaker 1: had forget what happened last year when Seattle beat them twice. 1366 01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:51,240 Speaker 1: They're gonna split with them. I guarantee that, and it 1367 01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:53,559 Speaker 1: may come with a win right here on Sunday. Carson 1368 01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:56,479 Speaker 1: Palmer said Thursday that the Cardinals are ten times better 1369 01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,879 Speaker 1: than they were the last time they went into Seattle. 1370 01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:05,040 Speaker 1: That's not true, but it's because it's literally ten times better. Yes, 1371 01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:08,479 Speaker 1: that would be basically robots from the future that are 1372 01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,920 Speaker 1: unable to make them drastically better. Can I introduce you 1373 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,760 Speaker 1: to Ryan Lindley's work about you know one and a 1374 01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,720 Speaker 1: half times better two times? All right, go ahead, well 1375 01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:20,120 Speaker 1: look at look at this matchup. Where do the Seahawks 1376 01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,920 Speaker 1: have the advantage in one place pass rush? Other than 1377 01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:26,439 Speaker 1: that the Cardinals are better and everything shot at the 1378 01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:29,320 Speaker 1: legion of boom. Well, look, they have great names and 1379 01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:31,640 Speaker 1: they've played pretty well, but the Cardinal secondary has been 1380 01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:34,760 Speaker 1: better this year. Patrick Peterson has outplayed Richard Sherman and 1381 01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:38,639 Speaker 1: Tyron Matthews outplayed Earl Thomas. I do think the Cardinal 1382 01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:40,559 Speaker 1: secondary is best in the league right now. If if 1383 01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:42,160 Speaker 1: you had to rank them, they would be number one. 1384 01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:45,000 Speaker 1: To your point about the skill all over the field 1385 01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:48,560 Speaker 1: for Arizona and particularly their skill positions on offense and 1386 01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:50,760 Speaker 1: NFL history, there has never been a team with a 1387 01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:55,000 Speaker 1: QB R B W R trio that's a triplet all 1388 01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,800 Speaker 1: over the age of thirty to amass four thousand passing yards, 1389 01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:01,960 Speaker 1: one thousand rushing yards, and one thousand receiving yards. Carson Palmer, 1390 01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:07,320 Speaker 1: Larry Fitz and Chris Johnson on pay yards all ready 1391 01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,559 Speaker 1: to do that. Potentially he lost me at R two 1392 01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:13,880 Speaker 1: D two three. That's a triplet. Quarterback running back, wide receiver. 1393 01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,599 Speaker 1: You say that the Cardinals have the advantage everywhere, including 1394 01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:20,160 Speaker 1: I would assume the running game, which is amazing to 1395 01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:22,439 Speaker 1: think about. I mean, that's the thing I'm looking at 1396 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,679 Speaker 1: from the Seahawks that Marshawn Lynch went into the by 1397 01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,840 Speaker 1: still not quite getting it done. I think he's looked okay, 1398 01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:31,360 Speaker 1: but it's the line. It's just the whole team. They 1399 01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,720 Speaker 1: couldn't run the ball at all against Dallas. That was 1400 01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:37,880 Speaker 1: a disappointing performance I thought, especially offensively, Russell Wilson didn't 1401 01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,400 Speaker 1: really have one of his best games, made some bad decisions. 1402 01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:42,640 Speaker 1: Like I would agree that the Cardinals do have the 1403 01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:44,200 Speaker 1: edge for the most part, and I would include that 1404 01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,360 Speaker 1: at quarterback. Even though Russell Wilson, I think, is having 1405 01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:48,600 Speaker 1: a better season this year than a year ago, you 1406 01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:51,080 Speaker 1: really can't compare what he's doing to what Carson Palmer 1407 01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,599 Speaker 1: has been. Carson Palmer's having a better season than Cam Newton. 1408 01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:56,160 Speaker 1: And nobody talks about Carson Palmer not being an MVP. 1409 01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:00,960 Speaker 1: He remember two on the old QB and Next Party. 1410 01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:04,000 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer is this legit a m VP candidate as 1411 01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,080 Speaker 1: outside of Tom Brady, any quarterback in the league he 1412 01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,519 Speaker 1: doesn't fit people's agenda though, so he doesn't get thrown 1413 01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,519 Speaker 1: And I think they would argue that he has a 1414 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,160 Speaker 1: ton of weapons and a lot of help around him, 1415 01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,479 Speaker 1: and that's the difference between him and Cam Newton if 1416 01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:19,200 Speaker 1: you were was also true of Aaron Rodgers a year 1417 01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:23,600 Speaker 1: ago and with Newton Shore. But Newton's numbers aren't m 1418 01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:26,240 Speaker 1: v P numbers. What he's done with the team are. Yeah, 1419 01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:30,839 Speaker 1: we uh had a split on this game. Mark Sessler 1420 01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:35,040 Speaker 1: and Chris Westling have taken the Cardinals the old zeus Er, 1421 01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:38,200 Speaker 1: connor Or and Kevin Patrick all with the Seahawks. Who's 1422 01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:40,320 Speaker 1: gonna Who's gonna cover Jimmy Graham in this game? The 1423 01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:44,040 Speaker 1: old user is an apostate. They talked about just leaving. 1424 01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:49,479 Speaker 1: That's a good point. Kevin Minter basically said, Jimmy Graham 1425 01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:53,560 Speaker 1: just won't Diombig Cannon cover him. He basically plays that 1426 01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:56,439 Speaker 1: safety line with lineback. Well, they don't know. Maybe it's 1427 01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:58,760 Speaker 1: Tyrann Matthew because Jimmy Graham. That was one thing that 1428 01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:01,759 Speaker 1: the Seahawks had going before the bye was Jimmy Graham 1429 01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:04,360 Speaker 1: was finally a big part of the offense. Dion Bickannon 1430 01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:07,360 Speaker 1: is playing a new position. It's called money backer. It's 1431 01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:09,920 Speaker 1: a dollar sign in front of LB on their depth chart. 1432 01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,800 Speaker 1: That sounds cool. I know I want to pay money back. 1433 01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,200 Speaker 1: He should be a rapper named that's something with ow 1434 01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:21,280 Speaker 1: offensive weapon that Uh. Finally, the Monday night football game. Uh, 1435 01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:24,000 Speaker 1: this should be a very one sided affair, but you 1436 01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:27,000 Speaker 1: should watch it anyway if you're a real football fan. Yeah, 1437 01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:30,439 Speaker 1: there's a challenge. The three and five Houston Texans traveling 1438 01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:34,280 Speaker 1: to Cincinnati to face the undefeated Bengals at eight and oh. 1439 01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:38,040 Speaker 1: Uh so, yeah, unless you really think of Brian Hoyer. 1440 01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,920 Speaker 1: Uh is going to shock the world. Uh. He's been 1441 01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,679 Speaker 1: playing pretty well this season. But the Bengals are really 1442 01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,479 Speaker 1: have hit their stride. They are playing great football and 1443 01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:49,920 Speaker 1: they're beating everybody. So why would this be a game? 1444 01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:53,240 Speaker 1: What's the beautiful city of Cincinnati and back to back 1445 01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:58,040 Speaker 1: weeks getting national love, national television hosting this game. What 1446 01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:01,760 Speaker 1: a revitalized area downtown Cincinnati. Good for them that they 1447 01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,320 Speaker 1: get everybody coming in there. They'll have all the lights up, 1448 01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:07,320 Speaker 1: it'll that good show and they'll wipe the floor with it. 1449 01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:09,479 Speaker 1: And you know it's great. It's starting to erase the 1450 01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:13,040 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton can't win in prime time. The football gods 1451 01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,839 Speaker 1: are saying, Okay, you got your hair in order. Everything 1452 01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:17,920 Speaker 1: is working out well for the Bengals. What we're gonna 1453 01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,759 Speaker 1: do is serve you up the Browns and the Texans 1454 01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:22,960 Speaker 1: on a platter that will get rid of this whole 1455 01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,639 Speaker 1: prime time stink for you, and then you can move 1456 01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:29,519 Speaker 1: on forward with some confidence. What better way to get 1457 01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:32,639 Speaker 1: rid of the demons than to exercise the demons against 1458 01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,040 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans who beat them in the first couple 1459 01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:37,720 Speaker 1: of West Office. That's a great point, good call, and 1460 01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,320 Speaker 1: you know what would make the people and region Cincinnati 1461 01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:43,120 Speaker 1: even more happy, West because if you came back to them, 1462 01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:47,960 Speaker 1: not move. But I love Allegiance Cincinnati. I I have 1463 01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:50,840 Speaker 1: many good friends and family there. And yeah, you wish 1464 01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,160 Speaker 1: to the team, you wish for heartbreak for so many 1465 01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:56,559 Speaker 1: of them that love their Cincinnati Bengals' only football. I'm 1466 01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:58,920 Speaker 1: saying you should go back to the team. Was what 1467 01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,120 Speaker 1: better to tell that a mark on a Sunday when 1468 01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:04,519 Speaker 1: the Browns are losing. Alright, So I hope for their 1469 01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,479 Speaker 1: sake they have more in their lives than football. Andy Dalton, 1470 01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,120 Speaker 1: by the way, he was on the cover of ESPN 1471 01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:12,559 Speaker 1: the magazine this week, and uh, he will not say 1472 01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,080 Speaker 1: he would talk to the media on Thursday, will not 1473 01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,559 Speaker 1: say the product that he uses in his hair, which 1474 01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,360 Speaker 1: really shows a little bit of hair insecurity. Uh. And 1475 01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:22,600 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I'll do right now. Um, I 1476 01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:26,960 Speaker 1: use Redkin molding paste, which you could pick up. He 1477 01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:30,280 Speaker 1: would do a Google search. Great product and using exclusively 1478 01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:35,679 Speaker 1: for about five years now. My wife Emily, she podcast sponsor. 1479 01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,880 Speaker 1: She orders it in bulk. Call us Redkin and listen. 1480 01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:40,840 Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm just saying they do a great work. 1481 01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:43,599 Speaker 1: And I'm just saying, go get it. Don't worry about 1482 01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,800 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton hiding his secrets. That's all I'm saying. I 1483 01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:48,880 Speaker 1: don't I'm not quite sure how to take what just 1484 01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,679 Speaker 1: happened here, but good for you. I wish I wish 1485 01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:54,840 Speaker 1: you could wager on things. I know we're not allowed 1486 01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:57,120 Speaker 1: to do that the NFL. But I saw a headline 1487 01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:00,640 Speaker 1: today on the around the NFL pay age. Dan, do 1488 01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:03,719 Speaker 1: you remember what the headline was exactly? It was Andy 1489 01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:07,280 Speaker 1: Dalton won't share product that lifted hair game. And you know, 1490 01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,160 Speaker 1: I just saw the headline and I was thinking, what 1491 01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:12,479 Speaker 1: would the odds have to be for this to not 1492 01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:16,240 Speaker 1: be Dan's post? Would it be one to one trillion 1493 01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:20,120 Speaker 1: like one, like, like, what were the chances that Dan 1494 01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:23,439 Speaker 1: was not the author of this? Like ke right, I 1495 01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:25,400 Speaker 1: clicked on the link and I was just hoping to 1496 01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:29,320 Speaker 1: be weirdly surprised that, like Chris or Mark randomly, I 1497 01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:31,760 Speaker 1: knew it wouldn't be the true. I just wanted life 1498 01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:34,680 Speaker 1: to be surprising you. You say, right, what you're interested in? 1499 01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,920 Speaker 1: What right? What grabs you Mark? That? Uh? Greg, that's 1500 01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:41,400 Speaker 1: one of like the ethos of the rent. And I 1501 01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:43,400 Speaker 1: was glad you've been on fire today. I think you 1502 01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:45,759 Speaker 1: would win the m v P Award for today between 1503 01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:50,160 Speaker 1: this and you're DeShawn Jackson Purple Nerple post you ever? Really, 1504 01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:53,000 Speaker 1: this has covered the landscape. There's gonna be a thirty 1505 01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:55,120 Speaker 1: for thirty on this day, like the o J thing. 1506 01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:58,000 Speaker 1: It's gonna be It's gonna be the old Juice or 1507 01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,400 Speaker 1: November twelve. I got ten hours of sleep last night, 1508 01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:03,560 Speaker 1: and I think it's really paid up. Um, that's it. 1509 01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:07,640 Speaker 1: We all took, of course, Cincinnati to remain undefeated in 1510 01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:12,320 Speaker 1: this game. That is it for uh. Thursday Friday edition 1511 01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:14,360 Speaker 1: of the Around the NFL Podcast we'll be back, of 1512 01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:18,679 Speaker 1: course on Sunday night, our flagship show, the Great Colleen 1513 01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:21,439 Speaker 1: Wolf County Fox will stop bye and we'll go over 1514 01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:23,720 Speaker 1: all of the games that we just previewed. So make 1515 01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:27,880 Speaker 1: sure you check that out mark feel better, buddy, Thank you. Okay, 1516 01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:31,000 Speaker 1: get get healthy. Um that's it for now. This is 1517 01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:36,000 Speaker 1: Dan Hansis signing off for Quiet Storm, The Mailman, the Boss, 1518 01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:42,200 Speaker 1: La Side, behind the glass, behind the glass, behind the glass, 1519 01:16:42,400 --> 01:17:01,000 Speaker 1: behind the glass until Sunday s