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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth do Thearon Burnette. I love it when you're here, me,

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Speaker 2: I love it when I'm here too. I've been wandering around.

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Speaker 2: I got this question in my head, and your only

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Speaker 2: prison I know who can answer that question is no.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what's ridiculous? Yes?

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Speaker 3: I do know it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: What is it? Elizabeth? It's here, I'm ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: The iconic track suit? What do you love track suits?

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Speaker 3: You we legitimately you wear Adidas tracksuits all the time.

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Speaker 2: All the time. You're wearing half of one.

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Speaker 3: Half of one now, okay, just the top half, tolf

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Speaker 3: nothing underneath.

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Speaker 2: I'm not porky normal Okay.

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Speaker 3: So you know who else makes an iconic tracksuit? Give

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Speaker 3: me who else used to the coke sportis.

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Speaker 2: Juicy Coto? There?

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Speaker 3: It is there? It is? They had like the the

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Speaker 3: lore ones? Right, yes, so they have not really, although

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Speaker 3: she should.

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Speaker 2: Be about Ben Affleck Is he doing one?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 3: They have a limited edition set and it's a one

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Speaker 3: hundred and sixty nine dollars track.

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Speaker 2: Suit okay, and it's it's a lot for tracks, a.

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Speaker 3: Tomato red color, too red, and it has the Diamante

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Speaker 3: detailing the custom crystal Dimante, like where it says it

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Speaker 3: across your your rump, okay, juicy, sure, although this time

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Speaker 3: it doesn't say juicy.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm paying for, Elizabeth. It says juicy or

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Speaker 2: oh juicy okay, next level Okay, yeah, rebooted it. I

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Speaker 2: got it, and you.

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Speaker 3: Know it's a mashup. You know it's across is it?

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Speaker 2: Did it have to be? Yes? But we just stop here.

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Speaker 2: It's so good, so far, so good.

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Speaker 3: You know who they're working with.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't want to Red Robin. No.

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Speaker 3: There, it's the Red Robin Juicy couture mashup. You can

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Speaker 3: only buy them on the Red Robin Instagram shop one

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Speaker 3: hundred and sixty nine dollars. As I said, No, all

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Speaker 3: sales are final, no returns or exchanging. You know why,

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Speaker 3: because you'll never buy another.

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Speaker 2: You took it. They're like here, that's it.

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Speaker 3: That's the juicier juicy on the caboose and then up

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Speaker 3: on the breastical area it says red Robin in rhinestone,

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Speaker 3: and I want all tracking information. I think it also

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Speaker 3: has that on their hip. They're not very good about

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Speaker 3: showing like full pictures of these tracks.

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Speaker 2: Shore the button the chesticles.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it says juicier on the back. I think

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Speaker 3: to whatever. And so anyway, I want a full list

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Speaker 3: of everyone who purchases this and that's going to be

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Speaker 3: my special watch list.

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Speaker 5: It's your list, but just watching them on these little

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Speaker 5: Google How did.

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Speaker 2: You hear about the newsletter? Do you get read it?

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Speaker 3: What do you We have the most amazing network. People

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Speaker 3: who have dudes who you know, They clew us in,

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Speaker 3: they let us know. This one came off of Instagram.

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Speaker 3: I think it us Yeah, and it came from esther faith.

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Speaker 3: She wanted She wanted to know what our budget was

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Speaker 3: because she wanted Dave. She said, look, I screencapped this.

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Speaker 3: What's the budget for Dave to take this one and

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Speaker 3: get both of them a set? I bet Elizabeth would

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Speaker 3: say she hates it but actually love it. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: told you I love cozy. This is probably cozy. Although

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Speaker 3: I feel like I like breathable fabrics. I don't really

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Speaker 3: wear synthetics, and I feel like that would make me

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Speaker 3: feel like I was gonna choke to death.

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Speaker 2: I trade mine for a ride to Stockton.

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Speaker 3: I think you get a free ride to Stockton when

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Speaker 3: you you know that's where they do it for the clubs.

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Speaker 2: Of course, you know I'm going to do it for.

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Speaker 3: The club Okay, and I'm done.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's ridiculous. It's also ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: Tell me, it's.

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Speaker 2: Gonna take me longer in a second. Yeah, do it, Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: This is the story of your people. Oh yeah, special investigators.

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Speaker 3: Like that could be a lot of group.

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Speaker 2: I left that for you to fill in, Like, what

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Speaker 2: kind of my people? Okay? It's nineteen eighty three, right,

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Speaker 2: and one of the most wanted men in Europe was

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Speaker 2: a thirty five year old millionaire playboy, a Danish actor,

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Speaker 2: a man known as a master of disguises. They called

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Speaker 2: him the rubber Faced Man. Yes, my people right. His

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Speaker 2: criminal co ringleader and mastermind was a wealthy son of

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Speaker 2: the Royal Navy. Oh yes. And both men were brought

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Speaker 2: down by your people, a bunch of nosy Welsh lobster

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Speaker 6: Oh yes, oh my goodness, yes, enjoy.

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Speaker 2: This is This is a ridiculous crime A podcast about

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Speaker 2: absurd and outrageous capers, heist and cons. It's always ninety

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Speaker 2: nine percent murder free, ay and ridiculous. Yes, yes it is.

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Speaker 2: Now this Elizabeth is the story of the drug baron

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Speaker 2: as I'm calling him and the rubber face man.

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Speaker 3: Wait, you're going to tell a story about drug.

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Speaker 2: I know, right, I was shocking.

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Speaker 3: I never heard such a thing.

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Speaker 2: I swear to god. I was not looking for a

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Speaker 2: drug story. I was looking for a story of like

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Speaker 2: about like a master of disguise, and I found the

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Speaker 2: rubber face man and I was so excited. I was like,

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Speaker 2: what's he doing? They're like drug smuggling.

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Speaker 3: I was like, you heard the word and you're like,

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Speaker 3: oh well.

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Speaker 2: It's this one's more than just cocaine. And Pablo Escobar

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Speaker 2: will make no more appearances after me saying his name

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Speaker 2: right now, Okay, that's it, Okay, okay. So the co

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Speaker 2: rigging leaders were two men. Soren berg Arnbach he's the Dane, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and Robin Boswell, the brit Now Boswell's you might have

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Speaker 2: you know guessed the Englishman. Okay. So he's from London

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Speaker 2: and for a living he was quote the master kind

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Speaker 2: of the drugs ring in London proper. He was known

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Speaker 2: to be quote ingenious, intelligent and determined. Could you get

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Speaker 2: a little picture of him?

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Speaker 3: Not really?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Now Boswell, son of a wealthy English family. As

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Speaker 2: I told you, his father royal Navy officer. Okay, right,

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Speaker 2: so he's you know, you would imagine some level of

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Speaker 2: discipline and upright for right, Yes, exactly.

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Speaker 5: A lot of whistles now for school and coats for days.

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Speaker 5: Nice sharp look, but the callers turned up, popped up

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Speaker 5: whistle like Dylan Thomas over here. Now you gotta make

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Speaker 5: a poetic anyway, this cabbing. He attended the ultra exclusive

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Speaker 5: Marlborough School. You know, it's like one of the private schools.

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Speaker 3: Like them roll the cigarette.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they teach him to roll smokes. So after that

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Speaker 2: he went to university and he was really good at

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Speaker 2: rolling smoke, so he said, why don't you study biology?

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Speaker 2: So he did, and then after graduation he went off

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Speaker 2: you know, he travels widely, extensively. Then he comes back

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Speaker 2: he's like, oh, that was amazing, world changing. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: but at that time notting Hill was basically London's hate Ashburys,

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Speaker 2: right nineteen eighty three, Well, this is the seventies. Okay,

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Speaker 3: That's like a cool little place to must be nice

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Speaker 2: Buy a place. Yeah, not just that, but one in

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Speaker 2: a known drug scene. Or you're like, oh, I can

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Speaker 2: go anywhere. They can come right here, they're down the street.

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Speaker 2: So basically my point is this is before Julia Roberts

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Speaker 2: apparently fake CD right CD drugs. Anyway, Boswell he had

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Speaker 2: the ultra wealthy in the UK, as in he was haughty,

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Speaker 2: had no lips, not not not physically stood demeanor Elizabeth

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Speaker 2: hat He quote, was evidently used to having his own way.

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Speaker 2: So he was a spoiled brat right. Yeah, he was tall, slim,

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Speaker 2: So he was someone of a you know, an outdoorsman,

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Speaker 2: I guess, and he quote lacked nothing in poise. He

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Speaker 3: Him underpants the Lady diapers.

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Speaker 2: What I don't I'm unfamiliar with this product. Is that

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Speaker 2: a mashup? I don't know this one. But basically this guy,

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Speaker 2: he's a rich kid from old money. He likes boats,

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Speaker 2: he likes acting superior to others. He wouldn't be much

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Speaker 2: you up, right, Okay, so that's Robin Boswell. Yeah, now

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Speaker 2: there's co conspirator. Sore In berg Arnbach. He was known

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Speaker 2: as the rubber face man, right, our Danish master of disguise. Now,

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Speaker 2: as a young man berg Arnbach he had been an actor,

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Speaker 2: but by the time he's thirty five, he was like

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Speaker 2: he's like now, basically a knock about playboy.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Now, when I say knock about playboy, Elizabeth, I mean

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Speaker 2: this cat bought himself a castle near the Italian port

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Speaker 2: city of Genoa. He also owned a palatial villa in Switzerland.

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Speaker 2: Dude was living clean. Wait what Yeah, he was also

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Speaker 2: one of Europe's most wanted drug smugglers, so that's how

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Speaker 2: he was paying for this. It's not like and he'd

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Speaker 2: been on the run for a decade. That's his nickname,

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Speaker 2: the Master of Disguise. That was not from his acting days.

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Speaker 3: So oh, I thought maybe he was like an early

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Speaker 3: Jim Carrey rubber faced man.

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Speaker 2: No, it was more like he wore rubber face masks

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Speaker 3: But he just would like make a crazy face trying

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Speaker 3: to get through customs.

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Speaker 2: Just try to hold it, like are you part dinosaurs?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like oh yeah, like you.

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Speaker 2: Know your old man mask. You scare me with the

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Speaker 2: the full face mask. Imagine that it was done. Well,

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Speaker 2: that's not horrifying anyway. So the rubber Face Man that's

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Speaker 2: his nickname, right, doesn't that sound like a nineteen thirties

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Speaker 2: horror film, like one of the comedy duo, Like like,

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Speaker 2: what is it a Abbin Costello meet the rubber face Man. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: back to our Danish arco trafficker, sorenberg Arnbach. He'd personally

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Speaker 2: seen the dangers of illicit drug use right, this cat

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Speaker 2: had lost a brother to a heroin.

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Speaker 3: Overdose and he goes around selling drugs.

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Speaker 2: Didn't stop him at all. He goes smuggling. He's like,

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Speaker 2: you know, it hurt my family's probably hurt other families.

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Speaker 2: But I love castles. Yeah, that's why he became a

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Speaker 2: narco baron Elizabeth. Also, he also loved yachts he happened

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Speaker 2: to be. And I when I say yachts, I don't

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Speaker 2: mean like big boats, I mean like I want you

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Speaker 2: to picture him on a ship, right, a ship that

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Speaker 2: was quote bigger but otherwise identical version of the Danish

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Speaker 2: royal yacht with an onboard chef who hosted Denmark's most

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Speaker 3: So he's not like guy Fiery yes on his boat.

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Speaker 2: Just poaling around with him like doing blows.

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Speaker 2: So for a partner he picked Robin Boswell. Smart choice, right, Boswell,

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Speaker 3: He'll fit right in in a Welsh fishing.

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Speaker 2: So, according to the book Drug War by Peter Welsh,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fun fact, yo, producer, Dave. You're a man Alfred

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Speaker 2: the Great. He mentioned Guildford in his will. Whoa last Kingdom? Shoutout?

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Speaker 2: What saved him is that the drugs he smuggled mostly

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Speaker 2: watching another episode and you or one of the interns

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Speaker 2: gives me that annoyed look when you hear that intro

433
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 2: song piping to Live and you're like, again, huh, Well,

434
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Speaker 2: I want you to know I learned a lot from

435
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Speaker 2: that show.

436
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Speaker 3: I know you probably have.

437
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 2: For instance, I know that if you're going to hide

438
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 2: things in a cave, there are inherent risks with that.

439
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,200
Speaker 2: I would imagine maybe it work brilliantly. No, don't get

440
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 2: me wrong, it can. Obviously if you plan to bring

441
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,160
Speaker 2: boats close to shore, there's gonna be problems with that

442
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,399
Speaker 2: part of it, right r under the cover of darkness.

443
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 2: That also adds an element if you're there to offload goods,

444
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Speaker 2: another element of danger because you don't want to lose

445
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 2: your goods. But if you got a hardy crew, it

446
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 2: can be done. Pirates did it back in the day.

447
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 6: Yeah.

448
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Speaker 3: But also you talked about the high water mark. That's

449
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Speaker 3: like an average high water mark.

450
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Speaker 2: There you go. Sea is not consistent. No, no, the

451
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 2: sea is a harsh doun forgiving mistresses. Yeah, and she

452
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,360
Speaker 2: will turn on you when you least expect it. Never

453
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,919
Speaker 2: turned your back on the ocean. In nineteen eighty two,

454
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Speaker 2: in the autumn month of November, a ship smuggling bales

455
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Speaker 2: of pot came in to offload some some contraband. Right now,

456
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 2: some of the marijuana gets lost in the rough seas.

457
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Speaker 2: Forty kilows of pot gets lost. That's about eighty eight

458
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Speaker 2: pounds of jazz cabbage just washing onto the coast of Wales.

459
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Speaker 2: Oh boy, now you see Elizabeth. As the sea taketh away,

460
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 2: so doth the sea giveth somewhere else down the coast?

461
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 3: Right, this is like those Garfield phones.

462
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, wash totally, the rubber duckies and the Pacific on

463
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 2: the Oregon coast. Yeah, this the pot equally buoyant, and

464
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 2: so like rubber duckies bobs along and the bales wash

465
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Speaker 2: ashore in a place called Newport, Okay, right, The locals

466
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Speaker 2: confused by this sudden gift of eighty eight pounds of

467
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 2: pot from the sea. So the local authorities are called

468
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Speaker 2: to look into this, like, what's going on?

469
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Speaker 4: Is it?

470
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Speaker 7: You know?

471
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Speaker 2: Is it the French? What's going on? So one month later,

472
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Speaker 2: Boswell he deposits three quarters of a million pounds sterling

473
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Speaker 2: into a bank on the Isle of Man. He just

474
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Speaker 2: walks into the bank with two suitcases and inside the

475
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Speaker 2: two suitcases is seven hundred and fifty seven thousands, never suspicious, yeah,

476
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 2: in notes in cash right, So boswell, he's been now

477
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 2: making some small mistakes. Yeah yeah, right, he's getting sloppy,

478
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 2: he's losing bales of pot, he's walking in with briefcases

479
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 2: of cash. So it was only a matter of time

480
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Speaker 2: until the drug baron and his buddy, the rubber face

481
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Speaker 2: man were both doing something that they had not been

482
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Speaker 2: doing for a decade, which she's getting caught. Yeah all right.

483
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 2: So it wasn't exactly their fault though when it did

484
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 2: start to go wrong, it was their men. You see.

485
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 2: They had brought their men with them to this small

486
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Speaker 2: Welsh fishing village.

487
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

488
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 2: Well imagine how some hard men who are used to

489
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 2: international drug smuggling are doing down at the pub, right,

490
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Speaker 2: and this town has like four thousand people. Oh it's small,

491
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 2: it's small, small, right, yeah, yeah, it has like it's

492
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,959
Speaker 2: separated down to the fishing village part and then up

493
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,479
Speaker 2: the road, a really steep road is the new modern

494
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 2: section of towns. They have any money, you live on

495
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 2: the hill, and everybody who works in the water and

496
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Speaker 2: around the.

497
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Speaker 3: Water, everybody knows everybody exactly.

498
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

499
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

500
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Speaker 2: So in June nineteen eighty three, local police were alerted

501
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Speaker 2: after a bunch of men were described by the locals

502
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Speaker 2: as quote a gang, and they kept dropping big bills

503
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 2: in the local pub. And by big bills, I mean

504
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 2: fifty pound notes. They're like, who's got all the money

505
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:47,479
Speaker 2: over there?

506
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Speaker 3: Usually?

507
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So Sue Warner, that was a young woman

508
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Speaker 2: at the time. She lived on the family farm near Newport,

509
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 2: and she recalled how quote, there were guys staying in

510
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 2: Dinah's Cross and spending an awful lot of money paying

511
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 2: for drinks with fifty pound notes, and lots of partying

512
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 2: going on, lots of money and nice big cars. People

513
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 2: just started to put things together. Now, I know that's

514
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 2: not a Welsh accent. I can't do a Welsh accent, right, So, yeah,

515
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 2: I'm not going to Elizabeth. You spent considerable time in Scotland.

516
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 2: I've never been to Scotland, but I have been to

517
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 2: England and I've spent some time in Wales. Yeah, I'm

518
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 2: guessing that based on your time in Scotland, you like me,

519
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 2: aren't surprised that these locals were suspicious of outsiders. Not

520
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 2: in the least, right, I mean, this is like it's

521
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 2: par for the course from what I.

522
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 3: Spend a small town in the United States, I can

523
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 3: tell you like, yeah, outsiders come in and then radar

524
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 3: goes up.

525
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:34,679
Speaker 2: What do you think they started doing next? Once the

526
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 2: radar goes.

527
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 3: Up, i'd keeping track of them. What would you do?

528
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 2: They start surveiling them, right, So they start snooping on

529
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 2: an Elizabeth style and suite. Back to Sue Warner, our

530
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 2: young local farm girl. So one night my dad decided

531
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Speaker 2: to camp up on the cliff top with neighbors. They

532
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 2: found two men sleeping close to the side of where

533
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 2: the gang we're planning on keeping the drugs, and then

534
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 2: things started to unravel. So now the cutting man camping

535
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Speaker 2: on the hilltop watching them off low drugs.

536
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Speaker 3: Especially because it's not just like who's this new family,

537
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 3: they're a little weird.

538
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 2: This is like, yeah, who look rough and yeah they

539
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 2: don't wear like sweaters and we've.

540
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 3: All seen those kind of like Jason State the movies.

541
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 3: You don't want to shoot out in the main town

542
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 3: with the cars driving over sidewalks and the whatnots.

543
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 2: Don't need to keep that to yourself. Take that back

544
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 2: to Guilford.

545
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't do that here.

546
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 2: So okay, these land lovers were not the only ones

547
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 2: who were suspicious. The fishermen and the lobstermen who worked

548
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 2: the craggy coastline.

549
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

550
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 2: They started watching these yachts and these boats coming close

551
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 2: to the shore and offload something into smaller dinghies and

552
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 2: then these the zodiac style inflatable boats. Right, so they

553
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 2: get nervous these guys are trying to like poach their catch.

554
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 6: Yeah.

555
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 2: They're like, wait, we're got competition, right, is it the French? Anyway,

556
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 2: So they contact the local authorities and they're worried about

557
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 2: these men who are working at night and they think

558
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 2: they're trying to their poachers, right, So they tell the

559
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 2: cops you got to watch these guys. And then some

560
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 2: of the lobstermen handle ourselves. So they go down and

561
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 2: they confront the men on the beaches who are offloading

562
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 2: the bales of pot. Wow, man, what are you doing

563
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 2: in Wales?

564
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 7: Right?

565
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 2: And so the drug smugglers they're like, oh, oh, calm down, no,

566
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: well we're not from here. They're like, yeah, we know.

567
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 2: What are you doing. They're like, we're filming a documentary,

568
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 2: you know, a nature movie. Everybody loves nature movies, right,

569
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 2: they tell them, Yeah, our movie is about seals and

570
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 2: whales and stuff in the ocean. And we're gon, we're

571
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 2: planning on filming in Greenland, so we're practicing off loading

572
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 2: and loading up equipment for the documentary. We take to

573
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 2: get really good at this because we're gonna be in

574
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Speaker 2: a rural place. And the guys were like, uh huh yeah.

575
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 2: So basically the local fishermen, the lobstermen, hey, like they're like,

576
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 2: that's a festering pack of lies. I'm not buying a

577
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: single bit of that. Like, trust me, mate, I'm a fisherman.

578
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 2: I know when something is fiscally unsound. Now you thought

579
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 2: I would say fishy, didn't you know, Elizabeth. Fisherman know

580
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 2: how to be fiscally sound. They have to be if

581
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 2: they're gonna make it. And a documentary crew practicing for

582
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 2: months to offload equipment is hinky and not fiscally sound.

583
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 2: So anyway, the locals they go to their dified powe's

584
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 2: maybe pronouncing that incorrectly, apologies Welsh, but it's d y

585
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 2: fowys okay, that place their police department, and reported what

586
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 2: all they'd seen, right, and what the men on the

587
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 2: beaches and the boats in the yachts were actually doing

588
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 2: was to prepare the pirate code for a major load

589
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 2: that was coming in on a consignment sale. It wasn't

590
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: even their dope a huge day. They're gonna like, oh,

591
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: we got this thick, great thing running in Wales. Just

592
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,239
Speaker 2: give us your big load and we'll offload it for you.

593
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: And the connect. Yeah, high stakes deal entered DCI Don

594
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: Evans of Diffid Poe's Police. Now. DCI Evans led the investigation,

595
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 2: which was dubbed Operation Seal Bay. Really imaginative, took title

596
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: right anyway, the cops they get to work. And he

597
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 2: wasn't alone, Elizabeth. You see, he didn't call in some

598
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 2: crack team of investigators. He didn't establish some war room

599
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 2: to catch these drug smugglers. Nope, not him. Instead, he

600
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: knew he had all the local amateur talent he needed. Yeah,

601
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 2: your people, Norsey busy bodies who say things like I

602
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 2: just want to take a look and see what they're

603
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: doing over there. Yes, right, your people. So DC I

604
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 2: haven't seen knew with my special army of special investigators,

605
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 2: I can get this task done. So we went out

606
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 2: and he spoke with them and DCI Don Evans. He

607
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 2: told the press, quote, these villains totally underestimated the local

608
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 2: people and how observant they were, and all we took

609
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 2: five hundred and forty statements from people living in the area.

610
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: There's like thirty eight hundred people, so I'm pretty much

611
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 2: every seventh person's like, oh my got something. So many

612
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 2: people are children, so obviously you discount the children to

613
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 2: people who are like house bound, they don't leave, they

614
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 2: don't have Almost every adult had something to say anyway.

615
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 2: So the police they follow the clues from the five

616
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 2: hundred and forty witness statements, they determine a zone of

617
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 2: interest to investigate. They're like, oh, pretty much centered around

618
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,239
Speaker 2: these two beaches. Then the cops go out and they

619
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 2: walk the coastline, searching through the sand the pebbles for

620
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 2: signs to drug smugglers. They also have like people with them,

621
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 2: But you were like, no, right over here, look right there, right,

622
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 2: there's this one farmer. He leads a pair of officers

623
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 2: over to the mouth of a cave and he wanted

624
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 2: to show them what he'd found. He's like, no, no, but

625
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 2: you got to see what I found. It's very importantright

626
00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 2: he drags him over there. He picks up a stone

627
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: and tosses into the cave. They're like, what are you doing,

628
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 2: old man? And all of a sudden, it doesn't make

629
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 2: the expected sound. Anybody would think that a stone going

630
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: into a cave would make. Instead, you hear this really large,

631
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 2: hollow sounding metal tung kind of like yeah. They're like,

632
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: wait a minute. And even the police are curious, so

633
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 2: they investigate the ground. They part's pushing around, They push

634
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: back sand, they move pebbles and everything out of their way. Boom,

635
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: they find something. What if they find Elizabeth a hatch

636
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 2: like a submarine kind of hatch, right, the cops they

637
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: twist the handle and they open the hatch. They can't

638
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: see the bottom. Farmer grabs another stone. He's like, gosh,

639
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 2: this chucks it in there. Boom once again. It takes

640
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 2: a while to hit the bottom of When it does,

641
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 2: their rings, they're like wait a minute. They go down,

642
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: they climb in. It's an enormous subterranean chamber. The police

643
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,239
Speaker 2: climb in and find all sorts of stuff in this

644
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 2: hidden drug smuggling bunker. DCI don Evan said quote, it

645
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: had obviously been a long time to build it was

646
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 2: held up with timber and totally lined with fiberglass. Resin

647
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 2: would have taken ages to dig out the sand and

648
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 2: rock and build, and they would have had brought all

649
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 2: the materials in by boat.

650
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 3: Wow.

651
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, like you're building.

652
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 3: When you were talking about fiberglass earlier, I was like,

653
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 3: did they just like bring a camper shell and like

654
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 3: shove it in a cave and.

655
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: Force it into the earth. Now? No, they dug a

656
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 2: huge cave hole for themselves under a cave and then wow,

657
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: plastered it all in. Essentially. Now that the police they go,

658
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 2: they find all the equipment that you would need for

659
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: a modern professional drug smuggling operation.

660
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 7: Right.

661
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 2: For instance, the cops discovered quote a gargantuan inflatable that

662
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 2: could carry twenty four men and six tons of equipment,

663
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: powered by a two hundred and thirty five horsepower outboard motor.

664
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 3: Wow.

665
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 2: The chamber was large enough that an average sized man

666
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 2: could stand up at full extension comfortably. Yeah. And since

667
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 2: this is nineteen eighty three, the local Welsh police did

668
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: not immediately assume this was international drug smuggling. Instead, they're like, IRA, right,

669
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 2: this is IRA, this is a weapons cash right, So

670
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 2: they assumed with all these you know, this would be

671
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 2: a brilliant place to launch an attack on the English

672
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 2: coast side, so no one would see it coming from

673
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 2: whales anyway. They did notice though, some cops like, wait,

674
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: what remember the eighty eight pounds of pot that washed

675
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: up down the shorty thing? They might be related. And

676
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: somebody's like, that's a good point. Wait to go, dcibob

677
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: now all the reports of offloading of larger boats and

678
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 2: yachts and so forth. It filters in and they go, okay,

679
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 2: bounce that against the IRA gun running. Okay, probably drugs,

680
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 2: and they give up on the IRA gun running right,

681
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: and the police investigate. And then as they're investigating that

682
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: big load that I told you before that they were

683
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: planning for, it comes in and uh the one when

684
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,959
Speaker 2: it arrives. It arrives on a seventy five foot fishing

685
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 2: trawler named Minnow Okay and Elizabeth. On that night, the

686
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: seas were stormy and pitched the ocean angry like an

687
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 2: irishman who's been mistaken for an Englishman. Now in those

688
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 2: dangerous and storm rexes came this fishing trawler. No fisherman

689
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: in his right mind would be out there in those

690
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 2: waters at night, right, So that alone makes it suspicious.

691
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 7: Right.

692
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 2: Then they get close to the rocky stars that like,

693
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 2: are they an idiot or is this like a criminal

694
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: And they're like, it's definitely criminals because they also I

695
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: forgot to mention Hurricane four winds. Oh god, yeah, like

696
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: this pushing the boat around like a child's toy. Right,

697
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: So the drug smugglers are fighting against the sea, fighting

698
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 2: against the winds, trying to deliver their load to shore.

699
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 2: They've got eighty bales of pot loaded onto two zodiac

700
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,719
Speaker 2: style boats. That's what they meant. That's the progress they

701
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 2: managed before things go afoul. The ropes tying the boats

702
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: to the fishing trawler they give way in the storm.

703
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 2: The sea's iron froth takes the boats, flips them. The

704
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 2: heavily overloaded with pot, right, so it's easy to flip,

705
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: yea flip. Now they've got eighty bales of pot sprinkle

706
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 2: into the ocean. Oh that's just it's like rubber duckies,

707
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: just imagine. Anyway, So along with all this snoop spinach,

708
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 2: the spugglers also watched a couple of them overseas, right,

709
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 2: So now we got people in the water so the

710
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 2: police are like, oh, crime, I need do we need

711
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: to save them, but we're under cover. We can't go

712
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: and save them. It'll blow our cover, right, So they're

713
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: trying to decide what they should do. They decide, we

714
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 2: got to reveal our investigations. So the cops watching this beach,

715
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 2: they rush out. They decide to do the right thing.

716
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: Dci Ron Davies, he was on a twelve hour shift

717
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 2: out there in the cold and the wet and the

718
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 2: dark of that night. He remembers the decision that they

719
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 2: tried to make about should we save the drug smugglers

720
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 2: or not? And I quote when the Dinghies broke free,

721
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 2: we had to break cover and rescue the gang members

722
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 2: that were in the sea. When rescued, both were in

723
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: a poor condition and there's no doubt in my mind

724
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 2: that they were left to drown. The crew of the

725
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 2: boat made no attempt whatsoever to rescue them. They were

726
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: regarded as being expendable. Yeah, so the police were like,

727
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 2: we can't have that, all right, let's go save the underlings.

728
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 2: Who wants to grab some henchmen? So they go out

729
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 2: there and then a couple other beachcombing cops they grab

730
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 2: a couple of guys who get washed ashore. All in all,

731
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 2: the cops now they also try to run and gun

732
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 2: and grab the actual boat. Maybe we can catch the minnow.

733
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 7: Right.

734
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 2: Also, they go racing off to London because they've been

735
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: told by the guys they capture some names. So the

736
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: cops just start scattering trying to take these leads and

737
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 2: do whatever they can.

738
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 6: Right.

739
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: So, as I told you, the minnow is starting to

740
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 2: get away as the cops are headed to London to

741
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 2: grab people who are in homes who don't know what's

742
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: gonna happen. Because they don't have cell phones, they can't

743
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: be warned. Right. They also have to call to the RAF.

744
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: They're like, launch a helicopter. Yeah. The refs like, oh blimey,

745
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 2: let's do it, right, So they send out helicopter to

746
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 2: chase this fishing trawler, the minnow.

747
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 3: The minnow wasn't that the Gilligan's Island?

748
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 2: Yes, this is a French one because it ends in

749
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:22,280
Speaker 2: a year, Yes, exactly. They launch a sea king helicopter.

750
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: It's a big helicopter, doesn't matter, and so yeah, imagine a.

751
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 3: Big long day in the visual.

752
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: So it's given chase, right, The fishing trawler. Imagine like

753
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 2: a big seventy five foot like a boat you t

754
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: off the coast of Alaska, right, okay, okay, So that

755
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 2: thing's just hauland as fast as it can, but it

756
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 2: can't go that fast. But it manages to slip away

757
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: in the night because it's that foggy and dark the

758
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: helicopter cannot. Finally, weather's absolutely terrible. It does manage to

759
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 2: get spotted the next day at Cork Harbor in Ireland,

760
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 2: so power over, it went that way, okay, exactly. So

761
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 2: the same night though, Robin Boswell doesn't know any of

762
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 2: this is going down, and so he gets arrested when

763
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 2: he when he does see cops coming for him, he

764
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: tries to make a run for it, or so it seems,

765
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 2: because two young boys and their mother spotted him and

766
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 2: they phoned the police. So he's like out in the town,

767
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 2: like walking along. The cops a catch up to him easily.

768
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,919
Speaker 3: See. I'm like a mind where everyone should just mind

769
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 3: their own business, except for you know, their times when

770
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 3: under discretion you realize, no, I can't mind my own business.

771
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: Well you just you keep saying it your own business.

772
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: This town is their business business. There you go. So

773
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,959
Speaker 2: they're minding their own anyway, DCI Evans. He recalled how, quote,

774
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 2: Robin Boswell was arrested, a man who gave us seventeen

775
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 2: false names and addresses. He was a mystery man and

776
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: clearly not up to any good. It transpired after arresting

777
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 2: Boswell that he wasn't going to tell us anything. So

778
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 2: these poor cops, they're up against her, right. So, of course,

779
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 2: to a veteran cop like DCI Evans, this is no

780
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,439
Speaker 2: real big surprise. But he was kind of hoping maybe

781
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 2: they'd be you know, forthright.

782
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

783
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 2: However, as he put it later on, but what was

784
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 2: unique he was wearing walking boots with specs of fiberglass resin.

785
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 2: So now boom, they've connected ron CSI Yeah, exactly. Oops,

786
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 2: the fibers gave me away. As d c I Evans

787
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 2: puts it, quote, we thought that's what we needed to

788
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: link him to the bunker at the cave. Right, So

789
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: now they've got d c I Evans. Now, however, he

790
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: was still denying Boswell, still denying that he was the

791
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: man they were looking for, so instead he insisted he

792
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: was an innocent property developer who happened to be out

793
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 2: on a walk looking for new investments on a rainy, stormy.

794
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 3: Night, because you want to see it under its worst

795
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 3: condition exactly.

796
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: I want to see if there's any rain damage that's

797
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 2: happening right now. So the cops were like, that's a

798
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 2: cute story. You have any others. So his co conspirator, Elizabeth,

799
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 2: the rubber face man, what's up with him? He's still

800
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 2: on the run right soon, Well, let's take a little

801
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 2: break and after that I'll tell you about sorenberg on

802
00:36:43,120 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 2: bach Ak, our master of disguise, Elizabeth. Yes, Saren, we're back. Hi.

803
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 2: I promised you a manhunt. Yes you did. Yeah, you're

804
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 2: ready to get stupid? Where? Yes? Where is the rubber

805
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 2: face man? Okay, are you really really ready? Ready?

806
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 3: I'm ready ready.

807
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,959
Speaker 2: No, if you're that ready, I'd like you to close

808
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 2: your up a clue. I'd like you to picture it. Ike, Elizabeth,

809
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 2: you are a body an English copper Johnny Law and

810
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: the Land of Lords and Ladies. You're a member of

811
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 2: the Flying Squad. Oh my god, ess DC I Dutton

812
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 2: to investigate as part of a multi agency task forse

813
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: the Flying Squad send out their best, which is you.

814
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 2: At the moment, you're near the Welsh coastal town of Fishguard.

815
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: It's a brisk night, A stiff wind chops at the

816
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: waves and blows a cold, wet breeze on shore. A

817
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 2: storm is a bruin. You can tell you're a good

818
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 2: detective now. In Welsh the town is called Abergwan, which

819
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 2: means the mouth of the River Gwan. It's a tiny hamlet,

820
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 2: a fishing village situation in a deep v in the

821
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 2: hills that runs down to the coast. There's not much

822
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 2: to this town. Their main business district is called High Street.

823
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: There's a parish church and that's about it. There are

824
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 2: thirty two hundred souls that call Fishguard home. You've learned

825
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: from the locals that there was a nineteen fifty five

826
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 2: film version of Moby Dick' darring Gregory Peck that was

827
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 2: shot in Fishguard. Huh right, the lo cow. It's idyllic

828
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 2: if you want to imitate New England or you know,

829
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: show the reality of the rough and royal coast of Wales. Anyway,

830
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 2: a manhunt is under way. You are a crack member

831
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: of the Flying Squad, sent out here, as I told you,

832
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 2: from London, and you always find you're a man You're

833
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: like Tommy Lee Jones and the Fugitive, only you have

834
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 2: an English accent, and unlike mister Tommy Lee Jones, you

835
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: do care. Your police radio crackles and sounds. A pair

836
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 2: of bobbies has spotted a man with a rocksack heading

837
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 2: out of town. You huff it. You run, your feet

838
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: slap at cobblestones as you race against the wind, which

839
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 2: is now growing quite lusty. Then you see something, or

840
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 2: rather someone, walking along a fence. You spy the stranger

841
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 2: with the rocksack. You call out to them. You there stop.

842
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 2: The stranger is the rubber face man, Sorenberg on a bach.

843
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 2: He looks back, takes one good eye full of you,

844
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: and then turns and sprints in the other direction. Berg

845
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 2: Armbach is in good shape for a middle aged drug smuggler.

846
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 2: He tosses his rucksack, hops a low fence and sprints

847
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: across the fields. You radio in his position and his

848
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 2: direction of escape. Then you hop the low fence, splash

849
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 2: down in a mess of fresh mud. You regain your

850
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 2: footing and chase after the rubber face man. He's running

851
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 2: at full speed. He approaches the edge of the farmer's field.

852
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: There's a line of hedges. Standing low and squat like

853
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 2: a thick leafy fence. The rubber face man heads for

854
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 2: the hedges. When he draws closer, he spies the barbed

855
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 2: wire fence that runs along the hedges. At full stride,

856
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 2: the rubber face Man leaps up and over the hedgerow

857
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 2: and the barbed wire fence. You are also at full pace,

858
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 2: charging after him. The rubber face Man disappears over the hedges.

859
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 2: You lose sight of him in a moment. You're at

860
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 2: the hedges. You pull up, though uncertain if you want

861
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 2: to go leaping into the unknown. You look over the

862
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 2: hedges and thank god you did. You spy on the

863
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 2: other side a sheer drop seventy feet straight down into

864
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 2: a quarry.

865
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 3: Oh.

866
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 2: Then you hear some dirt and soil ship pebbles come loose.

867
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 2: That's followed but grunts and the sound of a man

868
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 2: desperate not to die hill. He shouts. You look over,

869
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 2: and you spy the rubber face man hanging there off

870
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 2: the side of the cliff, clutching at a thick exposed

871
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 2: tree root. The cliff face runs below him. You tell

872
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 2: them to stay calm and you'll radio back to the

873
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 2: other coppers and the man hunt. You tell them where

874
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: you are and who you've got trap Hanging above the quarry.

875
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 2: The tree root is strong, but not strong enough. As

876
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 2: you direct the cops to the bottom of the quarry,

877
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 2: you hear the snap. Your head spins fast, and you

878
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: catch sight of the rubber face Man as he falls

879
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: and plummets into the quarry. Luckily for him, he hits

880
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 2: the sloping cliff face and he bounces and rolls harmlessly

881
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,720
Speaker 2: down the quarry wall until he comes to a rest

882
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 2: at the bottom of the old quarry. Waiting officers rush

883
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 2: over and arrest him. Nice work, DCI Dutt't hey, once again,

884
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: you got your man. DCI Pickles would be so proud. Yes,

885
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 2: now this arrest ends sorenberg Arnbox eleven year run as

886
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 2: a wanted man.

887
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 3: Wow.

888
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 2: After the cops, yeah, nabbed old rubber face Man. They

889
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 2: search his backpack, or as the British press would call it,

890
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 2: a rucksack, and they I have to admit, that's a

891
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: much more fun word, rucksack. I'm like, I want to

892
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 2: call it. I don't want to be pretentious. Americans were like,

893
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 2: who are you trying to be? Burnette feel like I'm

894
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 2: being me. It's rucksack like the Germans taught it to me.

895
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 2: Is that cooler anyway? So the cops they go tearing

896
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 2: through dude's rucksack and they open up and they find

897
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: a short band radio. The cops were like, oh, this

898
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 2: looks like fun. You want to see if it works.

899
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 2: Come on, Nigel, and they go on up and they

900
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 2: climb to the highest hill in the area and they

901
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: set up the short band radio. They flip it on,

902
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 2: they listen, nothing, They listen some more more nothing. They

903
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: keep listening though, because they're British, and finally, after a

904
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 2: few hours of plucky determination, the radio does indeed crackle

905
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 2: to life. Back to DCI Evans, the radio equipment came

906
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 2: to life in the words mother, mother, I want to

907
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,240
Speaker 2: come in and to get the dirt off my hands

908
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 2: were heard. That communication was enough. We knew there was

909
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 2: a vessel out in the bay wanting to come in

910
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 2: and to get rid of the drugs that were on board.

911
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: So now the cops they searched the horizon of the seat.

912
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 2: There's a boat out there. Yeah, So they're like they're

913
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 2: scanning it like like someone walking the Widow's walk.

914
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 3: Right, Well, if you're like, I'm sorry, but if you're

915
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 3: the if you're going to come up with code, the

916
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 3: kid is like, mother, but like no, like you're not

917
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 3: going to listen to a radio and hear that. You

918
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 3: have to say something like, you know, I got like,

919
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 3: however much fish, all this mackerel whatever, fresh load of

920
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know, speak the language of the people.

921
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 2: Mother. I want to come in, get the dirt off

922
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 2: my hands.

923
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's what kids radio their moms all the time,

924
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 3: Crackley radio. She's all come in over like a.

925
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 2: Whiskey soak voice to come in. So dark and stormy

926
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 2: and foggy as that night was and where they were,

927
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 2: they could not see the boat on the horizon right now,

928
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 2: Quincy deadly. Not long after this one thousand pounds of

929
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: primo Lebanese hash washed up on the sandy beaches of Scandinavia.

930
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 3: Oh that's so interesting, all the currents that would take

931
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 3: right Yeah, I.

932
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 2: Thought you'd dig that. So the cops assumed that the

933
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: smugglers must have just dumped their load of a gold

934
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: hash at sea. Now that they had their two masterminds

935
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 2: and their mini underlings and associates the local police, they

936
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 2: follow the threads of this network, right, they go, this

937
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 2: has got to go lots of places. The connection they

938
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 2: spanned from this tiny Welsh like fishing village, they connect

939
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 2: to London, then over to France, to Denmark, to Spain.

940
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 2: They start going around the international real quick, right. As

941
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 2: one local detective put it, it was a coup for

942
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 2: the smallest police force in the country to take on

943
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,439
Speaker 2: the biggest drug gang at the time.

944
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 3: Wow.

945
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 2: So Operation Seal Bay phenomenal success. Waiting go guys, good

946
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 2: for them. Now, as the cops chase leads, they also

947
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 2: followed the money trail, right, and this led them back

948
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 2: to the Isle of Man And I remember how I

949
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 2: told you Boswell walked into that bank with the two suitcases. Correct,

950
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 2: Remember how memorable that was? Yes, it was for the

951
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 2: p at the bank too, imagine. So they went to

952
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 2: the bank staff and DCI Evans is like, hey, yeah,

953
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: so you guys have anything strange you want to tell

954
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 2: us about. We've been following bank records and they all

955
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 2: lead to your bank. And as he put it, quote,

956
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 2: we asked the bank manager why he didn't think of

957
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 2: reporting it to the authorities, and his face reddened and

958
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 2: he said, mister Evans, it's not unusual for people to

959
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 2: come in carrying a shopping bag with fifty pounds in cash.

960
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,919
Speaker 3: Oh, then i'm the cops. I'm like, well, I'm gonna

961
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 3: set up shop out here, right, it's happening.

962
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: Well, Nigel, you're staying here. Eventually, the cops they get

963
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 2: all their charges in order. Boswell gets charged with conspiring

964
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 2: to import large quantities of Class B drugs. During his

965
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 2: arrest period, police kept finding heidi holes of cash. While

966
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 2: they were going through all the stuff. They found money

967
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 2: buried under gardens and drugs hidden in smaller underground chambers.

968
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 2: They also seized lots of his cars. They grabbed a

969
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,720
Speaker 2: rolls Royce, a ranger over, a Ferrari, his wife's portia,

970
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 2: his cars, his boats for that matter as well. They

971
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 2: often had hidden smuggler compartments. Right, So this was all

972
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 2: brought up during his lengthy trial in nineteen eighty eight,

973
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: and Boswell he had a ready answer for him, like,

974
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: I know this looks suspicious, guys, but let me explain,

975
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 2: And he said, and I quote, Look, I'm a wealthy Englishman,

976
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: so of course I'm also a bit of an eccentric.

977
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 2: The reason why my boats and cars all have smuggler

978
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 2: compartments is I was trying to hide Nazi gold. Wait, what,

979
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 2: that's not a direct quote. I made that up. Oh

980
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 2: that was his plan. He went in and he said,

981
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 2: basically went in doubt, Elizabeth. If you're a certain age

982
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 2: of England, you're like, oh, it's muddy the waters with

983
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: some Nazi gold. People will believe it. It's kind of

984
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 2: like we have in the in California, like Spanish gold.

985
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: So they have Nazi goldis everywhere on this coast and

986
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 2: everyone's like, oh yeah, I totally get that. Boswell. He

987
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: claimed that he'd hired all these men and dug all

988
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 2: these holes and built the secret chamber and had ships

989
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 2: offloading trial runs for when he finally found the gold.

990
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 2: He was searching for unsunk in Nazi U boats from

991
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: World War Two, right, and you see old chap. But

992
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 2: the reason I kept to so hush hush it because

993
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 2: the notts a gold player may not have been legal

994
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 2: to scavenge. Come on, obviously, you know it's all been

995
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 2: a terrible misunderstanding drugs. Now, the judge and jury in

996
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: the Crown Court, they listened to his side of the story,

997
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 2: and then they unanimously decided to not listen to a

998
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 2: single word he was saying. All right, the judge, mister

999
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,919
Speaker 2: Justice Mars Jones, can I pause for a second to say, hot, damn,

1000
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 2: that's the name and a half, mister Justice Mars Jones.

1001
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 2: Mars Mars like as in the planet mister just me.

1002
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: He sounds like he's a black man and he's got

1003
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 2: like one of those white wigs on, mister Justice Boss Jones. Now, okay,

1004
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 2: back to it. Justice Mars Jones ruled in almost record

1005
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 2: speed guilty. Then he told Boswell, you also have lots

1006
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 2: of money, of which I have no general power to

1007
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 2: deprive you. Only wish I could, now, my man, mister

1008
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 2: Justice Males Jones, he sentenced the ring leader Boswell to

1009
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 2: ten years in prison. Oh he was thirty seven at

1010
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 2: the time, gonna miss out on some of the best

1011
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: years of his life. Now was co ring leader, the

1012
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 2: man on the run, the rubber faced man aka sorenberg Arnbach.

1013
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 2: He gets jailed to eight years. Okay, yep, finally caught

1014
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: Boom and now Boswell, of course, being a true old

1015
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 2: money britt, what does he do. He appeals the rule,

1016
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: expecting it to go his way, always gets his way.

1017
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 2: Elizabeth of course, after his appeals court trial, the court determined, quote,

1018
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 2: the mind boggles at what might have been happening in

1019
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 2: that lonely places the months and years rolled by if

1020
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: this conspiracy had not been uncovered. So they basically has

1021
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 2: the original prosecution stated, and I quote, these greedy schemes

1022
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 2: were brought to light because of the neighborliness or nosiness

1023
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 2: of local people, the interest and curiosity shown by decent people. Yes,

1024
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 2: aka your people, Elizabeth, Yes, nosy lobstermen and fishermen and

1025
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 2: farmers daughters. Yes, So there you go, Elizabeth. What is

1026
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 2: your ridiculous takeaway from this tale?

1027
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 3: My ridiculous takeaway is, if you are going to smuggle

1028
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 3: something out of Lebanon, it should be white gold. And

1029
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 3: by that I mean tomb.

1030
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 2: Could you imagine garlic spread?

1031
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, like how much beauty be sharing in the world.

1032
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 3: Of course, Lebanese tombs.

1033
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 2: I don't think that's technically illegal, No, but you know,

1034
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 2: I don't.

1035
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 3: Really need to smuggle it with all sorts of exercise

1036
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 3: taxes and who knows, and you know whatever. That's my

1037
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,479
Speaker 3: ridiculous takeaways there, And what is your ridiculous Are.

1038
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 2: You feeling all right? Yeah? Okay to give me a second.

1039
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: It feels really nice. Feel heard if you listened to

1040
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: hang my ridiculous take away, Elizabeth, the rubber Face man

1041
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 2: really disappointed me because he's got this great name. You

1042
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 2: think he's gonna do stuff, and all he does is

1043
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 2: just nothing. He's like, got I got a plan. I'm

1044
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 2: gonna hide out my buddy, and my buddy's gonna rubber face.

1045
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 2: Come on, rubber face man, when you try to get away,

1046
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 2: you just try to walk out of town.

1047
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just like he's a disappointment.

1048
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 7: Right.

1049
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 2: I'm a developer. Yeah that's a ticket mother. Okay, So

1050
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: I got a question for you. Yeah, you have in

1051
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 2: the mood for a talk back? Yes, Producer Dave hit it.

1052
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1053
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 5: I w.

1054
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 7: Hi Elizabeth and Zarin. My name is Rachel. I'm from

1055
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 7: Fort Worth, Texas. I love your podcast. I think y'all

1056
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 7: have such a great report together. You're so funny, Elizabeth.

1057
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 7: I found a mash up today while I was walking

1058
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 7: in Target. It's Native Times Girl Scout cookies. Do you

1059
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 7: order it body wash, shampoo, et cetera? That smells like

1060
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 7: Girl Scout cookies? I found it highly ridiculous.

1061
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 6: I love it.

1062
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 3: If you feature it. Bye girl, I'm gonna let you

1063
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 3: do it per gross.

1064
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 2: There you go. That's how I feel.

1065
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 3: Every time to be on the receiving.

1066
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 2: You're just like, why is that pile of mess in

1067
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 2: my lab?

1068
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 3: I like to be the mischief maker, the mischief taker.

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Speaker 2: There you go. Girls just too sweet.

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Speaker 3: I don't like sweet scents like that.

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Speaker 2: No, I want to smell like butter.

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Speaker 3: I want to smell like an angel's sneeze.

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Speaker 2: Well you can find us smelling sweet like angel sneeze

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Speaker 2: is online always a Ridiculous Crime on Twitter, Instagram and

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Speaker 2: all the other socials. Maybe who knows. Good luck trying

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Speaker 2: to find us. We have a website though. You can

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Speaker 2: find us at ridiculous Crime dot com. Go there, hit

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Speaker 2: it up. We got all sorts of little tricks and

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Speaker 2: treats for you. Also, as you can tell, we love

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Speaker 2: your talk back, So please go to the iHeart app

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Speaker 2: and hit us up there, or you can email us

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Speaker 2: if you like, at Ridiculous Crime at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 2: As always, it's dear Elizabeth and then say whatever you want.

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Speaker 2: Once again, thanks for listening and we'll catch you in

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Speaker 2: next crime. Ridiculous Crime is hosted by Elizabeth Dutton and

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Speaker 2: Zaren Burnett, produced and edited by the vegan Leatherface Man

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Speaker 2: Dave Kuston. Research is by Marissa the Drug Baroness Brown

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Speaker 2: and Andrea the Pirate Queen of the Smugglers. Song Sharpened

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Speaker 2: Tear our theme song is by Thomas Shortman Radio Lee

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Speaker 2: and Travis Cbe Radio Dutton. The host wardrobe provided by

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Speaker 2: Botany five Hundred. Executive producers are Ben the Welsh Beachcomber

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Speaker 2: Boldlin and Noel notting Hill is a Good movie.

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Speaker 4: Brown, Ridicous Crime, Say It One More Timequeous Crime.

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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio. Four more podcasts

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