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Speaker 1: So I actually recorded a mail bag earlier today that's

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Speaker 1: we're so damn deep. We'll bring Lindy Waters in. He'll

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: So it's like that's kind of the process with the

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Speaker 1: he had this, like really truly reliable, dependable number two

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Speaker 2: He was plus twenty in this game. Had hit a

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Speaker 1: But like, if you had just one more guy that

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Speaker 1: You went cold late and sometimes, you know, sometimes you

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Speaker 1: I'm not worried about them in the big picture. One

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Speaker 1: Then they have Porzingis as they're like real rim protector,

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Speaker 1: I think the Celtics are smart to continue to take

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Speaker 1: But again, as I said, there are stretches in this

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Speaker 1: going to tomorrow do another breakdown of this game after

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Speaker 1: see you guys there on YouTube tomorrow. It's always a

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Speaker 1: sincerely appreciate you guys, and I'll see you then. The

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