1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Best of the Herd podcast. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: Sports Radio in noon to three Eastern nine am to 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: noon Pacific. Find your local station for The Herd at 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: or FSR. 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowhert 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 3: Hello and welcome. 11 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 4: It is a beautiful Thursday in Los Angeles. It's me 12 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 4: Jason McIntyre in for vacationing Colin Cowherd. 13 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 3: He's in parts unknown. 14 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 4: I've not heard from him yet, but I don't think 15 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 4: he's gonna be wearing skis. I'm joined today by Rachel Nichols, 16 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 4: fresh from Milan at the Olympics. 17 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 3: Rachel, great to have you. We are going to talk 18 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 3: Olympics on the show. 19 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 4: There's some interesting storylines percolating overseas. 20 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 5: I've been back for less than twelve hours and the 21 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 5: first place i wanted to come was here with you. 22 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 4: Oh, of course, and the topics the morning meeting. Yeah, 23 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 4: heeded knock down Dragon. 24 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 3: House study this morning. This is be a great show. 25 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 3: We got great guess folks, I'm fired up. 26 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 4: I know people say this is a slow week, now, 27 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 4: you know, I'm like, God, there's a ton of stuff. 28 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 3: You know, let's dive right in. 29 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 4: We are going to get to Giannis and these crazy 30 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 4: comments that he made. We'll get to those, but I 31 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 4: need to start with this Lebron James situation. 32 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys had heard, but. 33 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 4: Over the last week, probably the biggest story in the 34 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 4: NBA is what's gonna happen with Lebron after the Lakers 35 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 4: losing the playoffs because nobody outside of me think that 36 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 4: they're a legitimate contender in the West. And you know, basically, Lebron, 37 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 4: everybody's nailed it down to Okay, he's got three options, 38 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 4: so he can stay with the Lakers cheaper than that 39 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 4: max deal that he's making. 40 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 3: Now. He ain't sniffing fifty mil we know that. 41 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 4: Or you know, maybe he goes to Cleveland on the 42 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 4: cheap and a bunch of folks in Cleveland have already 43 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 4: broke it down, and hey, you know what Lebron minimum 44 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 4: deal Cleveland, James Harden, Donovan Mitchell. 45 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 3: Maybe he talks himself into that, and then there's. 46 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 4: Door number three, which is just he could straight up retire, 47 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 4: right Bron just walk away, which does kind of seem 48 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 4: random for Lebron, I can't see that. You know, the 49 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 4: all time greats, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, 50 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 4: they got farewell tours. How could Lebron, a guy who's 51 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 4: played longer than all those dudes, how could he not 52 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:15,839 Speaker 4: get a farewell tour? 53 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 3: And so at the All. 54 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 4: Star break they asked Lebron, Hey, so, Lebron, you know 55 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 4: you got an uncertain future. Really, this is the first 56 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 4: time in your career that that's been the case. What 57 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 4: what does the future hold? Have you given any thought? 58 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 4: Are you going to retire? And listen closely and look 59 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 4: at the body language of what Lebron James said. 60 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 6: Here, I want to live when I know you guys know, 61 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 6: I don't know. I have my idea, just want to 62 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 6: just want to live us all. And how is your 63 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 6: personal uncertainty for the summer and beyond for your career 64 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 6: play as a factor in your urgency? 65 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 7: Here? 66 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 6: N this we gain is we gearing up to this 67 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 6: towards the postseason? So has nothing to do with that 68 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 6: same same motivation, same e fact they're just you know, 69 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 6: this is we've got past the marathon and now just 70 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 6: the sprint is about to start. 71 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 3: Hmmm. 72 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 4: Spoken like a true poker player, very good poker faith 73 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 4: there from Lebron, almost like he's playing chess. You know, 74 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 4: my son plays competitive chess now, and you know the 75 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 4: players he's facing, they're locked in, right, they're not showing 76 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 4: no tells and they're reading the board five, ten, fifteen 77 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 4: plays in advance. 78 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 3: Chess is so great, great game. 79 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 4: And you know, historically Lebron's always been a few steps ahead. 80 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 4: You know, for the longest time in the NBA free 81 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 4: agency was hey, are you gonna stay? 82 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 3: Are you gonna go? 83 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 4: And I'll never forget back in the day Grant Hill 84 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 4: and Tim Duncan, they were two big name free agents, 85 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 4: and they took a tour and they met with other teams. 86 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 4: Ultimately thing and that they're not leaving. Interestingly, Lebron said, 87 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 4: I'm not doing any of that. I'm going to host 88 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 4: a special, a TV special to announce that I'm leaving 89 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 4: in Cleveland for Miami. And oh, by the way, I'm 90 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 4: bringing Chris Bosh. Totally flipped free agency on its head 91 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 4: a seminal moment in the NBA. 92 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 3: No player had ever done that. Okay. So then time runs. 93 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 4: Out in Miami and he says, you know what, I'm 94 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 4: gonna go back to Cleveland, okay, and oh, by the way, 95 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 4: I'm gonna bring Kevin Love. He Lebron flipped everything because 96 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 4: he knew what was coming. He was ahead of the 97 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 4: curve and he didn't stop there. He said, I'm now 98 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 4: going to go to the Lakers, move my family to 99 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 4: LA and he could see, he could read the tea leaves. 100 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 4: He knew Anthony Davis was coming. He had Anthony Davis 101 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 4: in his back pocket. A year later, Ad comes and 102 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 4: the Lakers wins another title. Lebron just wins wherever he goes. 103 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 4: So what could he have in store for us this summer? 104 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 4: And the theory is starting to make headwaves on the internet. 105 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:50,799 Speaker 4: It seems like perhaps Lebron's idea of playing at age 106 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 4: forty one forty two is maybe he does take a 107 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 4: lot less money from the NBA. But on the side, 108 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 4: is there a world where Lebron says, you know what, 109 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 4: I saw that last dance from Michael Jordan. What twenty 110 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 4: years after he retired twenty five, what if I had 111 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 4: a camera crew following me around from a peacock, Amazon, Prime, Apple, 112 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 4: one of these streaming services, and I signed a developmental 113 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 4: deal where they pay me, I don't know, fifty million 114 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 4: over five years to produce some fun stuff for a 115 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 4: streaming service. And oh, by the way, my farewell tour 116 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 4: and we air that after we win the title. Now, 117 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 4: remember I mentioned Jabbar had a farewell tour. I think 118 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 4: they lost in the second round of the playoffs. Michael 119 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 4: Jordan with the Wizards farewell to you guys. Remember that 120 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 4: didn't make the playoffs. Kobe Bryant's obviously was very famous 121 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 4: deer basketball and that ended. You know, obviously he had 122 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 4: an amazing final game, but they didn't make the playoffs. 123 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 3: Why would Lebron do all this? 124 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 4: Well, what if he takes a lot less money and 125 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 4: the Lakers can now trade for Yannis and we're gonna 126 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 4: get to Janis shortly because he's saying some stuff that's 127 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 4: starting to sound like he's out. And if the Lakers 128 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 4: can get Luca Jannis and Lebron James and there is 129 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 4: a world where they keep Austin Reeves in this scenario, 130 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 4: you're telling me that isn't the ultimate farewell tour where 131 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 4: Lebron gets a super team because of his generous sacrifice 132 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 4: taking less. So the Lakers can now bring in Giannis 133 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 4: to join forces with Luca. You've got the best team 134 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 4: in the league. You've got a super team. He goes 135 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 4: out with a super team and a title. Come on, folks, 136 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 4: that's the stuff dreams are made of. That right, there 137 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 4: is a streaming show everybody is watching. Now. I want 138 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 4: to pivot to the NFL and kind of a troubling 139 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 4: situation on the home front. So we know this draft 140 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 4: is really only a one quarterback draft. We've had Daniel 141 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 4: Jeremiah on lanzer Lyne on universally, Fernando Mendoza is the guy, 142 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 4: and maybe Ty Simpson is a second round pick and 143 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 4: works out, maybe Nussmeyer, maybe Club Nick. You hear a 144 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 4: lot of maybees, not a lot of love. So I 145 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 4: came into the morning meeting and I was like, guys, 146 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 4: I'm looking around at the league and I think I 147 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 4: got seven teams maybe eight, that don't have a quarterback. 148 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 4: And I'm not even including the Raiders because we're pegging 149 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 4: them to get Mendoza. So wait a minute, we got 150 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 4: seven teams without quarterbacks. There's maybe one free agent that 151 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 4: people are interested in, Malik Willis, who I'm not gonna 152 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 4: put an asterisk by him because all the stat guys 153 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 4: love what he did. Yeah, so I love what he 154 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 4: did with a great receiving core in Green Bay and 155 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 4: a great coach okay in Lafloor. Okay, Yeah, Willis look great. 156 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 4: In a small sample size, he looked terrific. I mean, 157 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 4: you know, guy fills in for a few games, Yeah, 158 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 4: you can look outstanding. 159 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 3: So what does that mean? 160 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 4: You're gonna give him thirty mili You give him the 161 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 4: Sam Darnold special. You're gonna give him the Baker deal, 162 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 4: the Daniel Jones deal, off that body of work with Lafleur. 163 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 3: So now it gets a little scary. Let's move Willis 164 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 3: to the side. 165 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 4: You're telling me teams like the Jets who have no quarterback, 166 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 4: the Miami Dolphins, who are to unload Toua. It's clear 167 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 4: that he's not in their plans and it's gonna be 168 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 4: quinn yours. 169 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 3: You tell me the Arizona Cardinals, who are. 170 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 4: Desperate to get off Kyler Marie though he's gonna trade 171 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 4: him or cut him. According to every reporter on the planet, 172 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 4: you told me that Cleveland Browns, who don't have a quarterback, 173 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 4: may decide between I don't know, Dylan Gabriel, Shaduur and 174 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 4: Deshaun Watson. I mean, folks, you look down the list. 175 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 4: We got a lot of teams with no quarterback next year. 176 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 4: That's just the tip of the iceberg. I mean, I 177 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 4: could talk to the Atlanta Falcons in there is it, Michael 178 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 4: Pennox is that Kirk Cousins. Folks were in a weird 179 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,599 Speaker 4: place in the NFL. There are thirty two teams and 180 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 4: we don't have enough good quarterbacks. Look at this list 181 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 4: of free agent quarterbacks. Daniel Jones is coming off an Achilles. 182 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 4: Everybody thinks he's staying an Indy. I can't see anybody 183 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 4: making a move. Justin Fields has no market. Aaron Rodgers, 184 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 4: you want to wait for his latest darkness retreat to 185 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 4: end before you make a move on him. I'm sure 186 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 4: GMS cannot wait. Oh yeah, Aaron, take all the time 187 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 4: you need darkness retreat. You want to go surfingsk do 188 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 4: your thing. Bro, We'll catch up with you. And oh yeah, 189 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 4: the draft's coming up. Russell Wilson, I'm gonna remind you 190 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 4: that free agent. Quarterbacks are a huge risk that Denver 191 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 4: Broncos traded for Russell Wilson, then gave him like two 192 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 4: hundred and forty five million, had to pay another team 193 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 4: to take him. 194 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 3: Be a buyer. 195 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 4: Beware Kenny Pickett. I don't know what that guy's doing. 196 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 4: Jimmy Garoppolo, is he going to be a starter next year? 197 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 3: Really? 198 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 4: And then Mitchell Trubisky, Tyler Huntley, come on, what are 199 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 4: we doing? So folks, you look at these teams and 200 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 4: it's like, what are the Minnesota Vikings gonna do? They 201 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 4: got to bring in a quarterback because JJ McCarthy was 202 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 4: the GMS guy, and it's pretty clear Kevin O'Connell's lukewarm 203 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 4: on him. All these stories coming out of Minnesota. I mean, 204 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 4: you keep going down the list, folks. There are not 205 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 4: enough good quarterbacks in this league. And my big thing is, okay, 206 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,359 Speaker 4: free agency. So Sam Donald was a hit amazing. Hey, 207 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 4: if Seattle can find Sam Donald and win a Super 208 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 4: Bowl with him, why can't other Look at the Colts 209 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 4: went and it got Daniel Jones and they were at 210 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 4: one point seven to one. Well, let's take a quick 211 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 4: little twenty second time out here. Daniel Jones top ten pick. 212 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 4: He had some pedigree. I mean, guy was a top 213 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 4: ten pick. Sam Darnold was a top five pick. 214 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 3: He had a lot of pedigree. 215 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 4: The guys on that list that we just showed you, 216 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 4: uh huh. Kenny Pickett, he went twenty and was criminally overdrafted, 217 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 4: has shown you nothing. You tell me what any of 218 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 4: these guys have shown you to prove that maybe it's 219 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 4: worth taking a flyer on or do you want to 220 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 4: get stuck with the next Derek Carr? Do you remember 221 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 4: the Saints they gave up a lot of money to 222 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 4: Derek Carr. Woud that result in total train wreck and disaster? Okay, 223 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 4: Atlanta Falcons, we're all in on Kirk Cousins. Yeah, how 224 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 4: did that end up? I'm just telling you these free agents, 225 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 4: I know the saying is one man's trash is another 226 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 4: man's treasure. 227 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 3: Okay, and sure some of. 228 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 4: These guys will occasionally hit. But for every Sam Darnold 229 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 4: and Baker Mayfield to hit in Tampa and got a 230 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 4: playoff win, it's littered with Geno Smith's. Remember Pete Carroll 231 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 4: pounding the table last year for Gino Smith. Yeah, Pete 232 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 4: Carroll blown out, dusted, look at the Atlanta Falcons front 233 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 4: office and coaches who were all in on Kirk Cousins. 234 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 3: They're gone. 235 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 4: I mean, folks, it is a major roll of the dice. 236 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 4: And I know the NFL doesn't like the word tanking, 237 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 4: but if you look at the list of potential quarterbacks 238 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 4: for next year in the draft, and I know we 239 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 4: do this every year, Oh my gosh, quarterbacks are so good. Hey, 240 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 4: take a look at that Notre Dame quarterback. Go see 241 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 4: what they're saying about him. Okay, it's more than just 242 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 4: arch Manning. I do believe Jets, Dolphins, some of these 243 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 4: teams are going to be incentivized to not go out 244 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 4: and spend a lot of money in free agency now 245 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 4: so they can draft high next year and hopefully find 246 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 4: their franchise quarterback. So, Rachel, we got a monster show today, NFL, NBA, 247 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 4: A little Olympics. 248 00:11:58,800 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm fired up. 249 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 4: Wait overall, like you, you've been to the Olympics before. 250 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 4: I've never been ninth Olympics. 251 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 3: I just went ninth. Yeah, man, would you give it 252 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 3: incredible mediocre? Like this is? This was a good one. 253 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 3: It is a good one, and it was. 254 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 5: The setup is unusual because it's the furthest spread out Olympics, 255 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 5: but it all worked and some of the competition we've 256 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 5: seen and some great stories. Women's curling team just made 257 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 5: it into the playoffs and curling HU. Yeah, I'm on 258 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 5: the board at USA Curling. Jason fun fact about me. 259 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 3: I did not know that until two hours ago. 260 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 5: But you know, gold medal hockey game tonight for the 261 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 5: women's US Canada. I mean there's all kinds of great 262 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 5: stuff going on. I mean good controversy. I got all 263 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 5: kinds of Stuf'm. 264 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 3: Excited to talk about that. 265 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 4: But coming up next year, there's an NBA star who 266 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 4: opened his mouth over the weekend, said a lot, and 267 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, fans and maybe the front office 268 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 4: are panicking. 269 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 3: That's next year. 270 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 8: On the Herd. 271 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 2: One more Heard. 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Jason 286 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 4: McIntyre in for Colin Cowherd. It's a it's been a 287 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 4: fun morning so for only one hour in the book's 288 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 4: two hours left enjoyed by Rachel Nichols, and I don't 289 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 4: think people are gonna like us. Rachel wants to start 290 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 4: talking about mister Darren Peterson of Kansas. Fun topic, we 291 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 4: will talk to Miles Simon. Honestly one of Jim Nantz's 292 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 4: best calls ever. Simon says championship back in the day 293 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 4: when Arizona won an awesome national championship. Miles Simon will 294 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 4: join the show in about five minutes. He's a Fox 295 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 4: Sports college hoops analyst. You know, I love college basketball. 296 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 4: Rachel loves college basketball, so we'll talk about that. But first, 297 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 4: the NBA second half of the season starts tonight. Kudos 298 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 4: to the league for a good, good matchup on paper tonight, 299 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 4: and I have some hot takes on the second half 300 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 4: of the season going forward, so we've narrowed them down 301 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 4: to five. My five predictions for the NBA second half. 302 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 7: Here we go. 303 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 4: Number one, the Cleveland Cavaliers will get the number one 304 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 4: seed in the East. Now they are seven games back 305 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 4: at Detroit. I know you're gonna say, Mac, You're crazy, 306 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 4: that's insanity. It's all about the schedule, baby, and also 307 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 4: the fact that Donovan Mitchell now has James Harden. They 308 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 4: had no practices together and looked awesome. What's gonna happen 309 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 4: when they can actually work together with some time under 310 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 4: their belt. 311 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 3: This is a damn good team when you get Mobley, Allen. 312 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 4: Mitchell and Harden and the schedu is loaded with teams 313 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 4: that are tanking. 314 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 3: I know we don't like that word, but the Detroit 315 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 3: schedule is much more difficult. I think the Knicks kind of. 316 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 4: Start to maybe rest guys a little bit down the 317 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 4: stretch to be fresh for the playoffs. I have the 318 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 4: Cabs stealing the number one seed in the East. Number two, 319 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 4: the Oklahoma City Thunder will not get out of the 320 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 4: second round. Of the playoffs. I can hear the laughter 321 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 4: at America, folks. As a reminder, no defending NBA champ 322 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 4: has gotten past the second round of the playoffs in 323 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 4: six straight seasons. Some of that is just circumstance, some 324 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 4: is injuries, some of it is unlucky. But I think 325 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 4: there's something here. And what a great stat from our staff. 326 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 4: So okase started twenty four and one. Remember there was 327 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 4: all that nonsense about seventy four wins. They're eighteen and thirteen. 328 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 4: Since that's it. They're like slightly above league average. No, yes, 329 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 4: they've had a ton of injuries. But if you drill 330 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 4: down a little, Ja Dubb not playing great, Alex Caruso 331 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 4: might be their second best player right now, SGA, it'll 332 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 4: hurt folks. 333 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 3: The Thunder are not in a great place. 334 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 4: There is that lack of hunger that some teams have 335 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 4: the year after winning the title. 336 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 3: Just keep an eye. 337 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 4: I think they go down to Denver or the Spurs 338 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 4: third up. Sorry, Boston, I don't think the Celtics will 339 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 4: get out of the first round of the playoffs. 340 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 7: Now. 341 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 4: A large part of this is I don't know if 342 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 4: Jason Tatum's coming back, but everybody and their mom thinks 343 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 4: he is. Here's the problem. The Celtics have gotten right 344 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 4: here in the last few weeks, largely against bad teams, 345 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 4: but also they move Peyton Pritchell to the bench, they 346 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 4: ship out Simons and Jalen Brown is clearly their number 347 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 4: one guy. He's playing at an all NBA first team level. 348 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 4: So now you're gonna thrust a star like Tatum in. 349 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 4: I think there's gonna be a learning curve. And I 350 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 4: don't know when he's gonna come back. Do you start 351 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 4: him off the bench? Is he on a minute's restriction? 352 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 4: Does that kind of mess with the. 353 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 3: Good vibes in Boston? 354 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 4: And I do believe that if they're the three and 355 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 4: they have to face a six, or they're the two 356 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 4: and they have to face. 357 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 3: Dangerous Charlotte folks. 358 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 4: I listen, I love me some Tatum, but I don't 359 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 4: know how this is going to work if he comes back. 360 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 3: I got Boston bounced in the first round. Number four, 361 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 3: I do not like this one at all. 362 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 4: You know, I love Cooper Flag. I'm predicting Khan k 363 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 4: Nipple is going to steal the Rookie of the Year 364 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 4: for two reasons. 365 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 3: Number One, I mean Charlotte. 366 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 4: They're playing out of their minds right now with Kanniple, Folks, 367 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 4: He's shooting forty three percent from three, best among rookies, 368 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 4: shooting forty eight percent from the field. He's averaging eighteen 369 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 4: and five shot creation, playmaking. He's a total package. Now, 370 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 4: you know, I'm a Cooper Flag guy. Love Cooper Flag. 371 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 4: Think he's the future of the league. I do wonder 372 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 4: if Dallas, which has lost nine straight, decides, hey, hey, 373 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 4: in the best interest of our franchise, we just announced 374 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 4: Kyrie Irving. We're not bringing it back. Remember there was 375 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 4: all that hope. We're not bringing Kyrie back. Do they say, Cooper, 376 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 4: let's power down. Let's say you played thirty five games 377 00:17:58,840 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 4: last year or whatever. 378 00:17:59,680 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 3: Duke. 379 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 4: Now we're at like fifty five and we don't want 380 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 4: to get any injuries, and they shut down Cooper Flag 381 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 4: in the effort to tank and get a high draft pick. 382 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 4: Can you imagine Cooper Flag alongside Dabansa or Boozer from Duke, Folks, 383 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 4: it's the smart move. 384 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 3: I know you don't want to hear that, but. 385 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 4: That's why I look at conkinent Wile winning Rookie of 386 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 4: the Year and finally my NBA Finals prediction, Nicks from 387 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 4: the East and the Spurs in the West. Love me 388 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 4: someone Ben Yama. I liked that Rachel's all over web 389 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 4: Minyama be in. 390 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 3: The face of the league. I think this is the year. 391 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 4: For my next ye know, I'm in Nick Lakers fan, 392 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 4: which is not allowed, but I don't really care. That's 393 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 4: who I root for. I think Jalen Brunson and company 394 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 4: get it done. They show we don't need the honest, 395 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 4: which is good good news for the Lakers and the Spurs. 396 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 4: I just love this team. Stephan Castle is already one 397 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 4: of my like five favorite players in the league. 398 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 3: I haven't seen a dude that confident. 399 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 2: You know. 400 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 4: I went to the Lakers Spurs a little while ago 401 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 4: and we had really good seats. And if you just 402 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 4: watch Castle walk around, dap people up in warm ups, 403 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 4: there's no nervous energy, there's no second year jitters. Castle 404 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 4: essentially looks like the truth. He looks like a guy 405 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 4: who's gonna be a big time star in this league. 406 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 4: He could guard anybody. Look at him. Shut down SGA 407 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 4: in their regular season meetings. They own the thunder already. 408 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 4: Love me some Castle, Spurs Nicks in the NBA Finals. 409 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 3: All right, let's bring in our. 410 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 4: Guest, Miles Simon, Fox Sports College basketball analyst. 411 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 3: I got to meet Miles back in the day. 412 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 4: Obviously an amazing basketball player at Arizona. Tremendous run you 413 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 4: guys had, Miles, We're going to start to write in 414 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 4: the deep end. We're tossing you, dude. This Darren Peterson 415 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 4: stuff is everywhere. Miles, I'll take a deep breath. 416 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 3: He had an. 417 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 4: Amazing first half last night and then he cramped up 418 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 4: second half. 419 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 3: The numbers are staff put it together. 420 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 4: He's had a hamstring, an ankle, an illness, cramping, He's 421 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 4: missed fifteen of twenty six games. But he is a 422 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 4: really talented basketball player. What do you make of this? 423 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 9: There's a lot of concerns about Darren Peterson, obviously, and 424 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 9: NBA teams are going to have to do a very deep, 425 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 9: deep dive into one his injury history, his mental makeup, 426 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 9: because when you can't get through a college season, the 427 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 9: amount of money the NBA teams are about to invest 428 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 9: in this guy as a top three pick, possibly number 429 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 9: one pick, is very concerning. You have the anti flu game, Okay, 430 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 9: Jordan had the flu game where he showed up in 431 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 9: the finals and he puts up amazing numbers, and Darren 432 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 9: Peterson has the number one team in the country in 433 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 9: Arizona in his building, goes through warm ups and sits 434 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 9: out with the flu and doesn't even give it a shot. 435 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 9: That's super concerning for not only the Kansas Jayhawks this 436 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 9: year because that's what they're focused on, trying to win 437 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 9: a national championship, but for NBA teams going forward. Man, 438 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 9: you know that's going to be tough. It's knocking him 439 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 9: down in my opinion, from the number one spot. 440 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 4: Interesting. So, the Texas Tech game was in he hits 441 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 4: two threes. Here's one of them. I mean, unbelievable two 442 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 4: threes in the final ninety seconds. They come back and win. 443 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 4: Then he skips the Arizona game and they win without him, right, 444 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 4: And I don't know you. 445 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 3: You probably know Bill Self. 446 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 4: I'm sure he recruited you back in the day at 447 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 4: some point, but like you know, you look around at 448 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 4: Bill self is even like answering questions after the game 449 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 4: last night, he was like, I don't. 450 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 3: Really know what happened. I mean, it was just very 451 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 3: I can't recall a story like this. 452 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, Bill Self, was baffled last night. 453 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 9: And I think you remember, like even a week ago, 454 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 9: he really defended the kid as he should. It's his player. 455 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 9: He probably he cares for him a lot. But last 456 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 9: night you saw the clip where Peterson pulls himself out 457 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 9: of the game and Bill self says, you know, I 458 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 9: thought we were good to go. I thought he was 459 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 9: good to go, and then all of a sudden, you know, 460 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 9: he I think he has twenty points or something in 461 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 9: the first half, and the talent just it's it's tantalizing, 462 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 9: and it's teasing because he's so good and you just 463 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 9: want to see him perform, you know, thirty to thirty 464 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 9: five minutes a night. And this Kansas team like they're 465 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 9: on the brink. They win that game, like you said, 466 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 9: against Arizona, number one team in the country, without him, 467 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 9: and they just want to see the complete package. If 468 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 9: you're a Kansas fan, if you're Bill self, and if 469 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 9: you're his teammates, but many the guy is not not 470 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 9: coming on the court quite enough, and you got to 471 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 9: be on the court to win the national title. 472 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 4: So the only corollary I could find, and it's not 473 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 4: an apples to apples, is do you remember Jalen Johnson 474 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 4: at Duke. I think it was the second year of COVID, 475 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 4: so he was another I'm going to three or four 476 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 4: high schools, which is fine, that's like the new thing 477 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 4: for all these elite, top guys. And then he kind 478 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 4: of quit on coach k remember in I think it 479 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 4: was February. He just basically was like, I'm done, We're 480 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 4: not going anywhere. I'm quitting and he got blasted by 481 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 4: the media, but you could see the talent was there. 482 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 3: So he fell a little bit in the draft, the 483 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 3: Hawks get a steal. 484 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 4: Here we are like what four years later, Jalen Johnson 485 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 4: is like one of the maybe an All NBA player. 486 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 8: He's an All Star. 487 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 4: So I mean, I know you said you're backing off 488 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 4: a little, but seeing a guy like Jalen Johnson does 489 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 4: that maybe make you think, like, hey, it's the talent. 490 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 9: Well, he's not dropping past like three in the draft, 491 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 9: like to me. To me, there's a clear top three. 492 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 9: He's not going like twenty like Jalen Johnson because he's through. 493 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 9: It's gonna be Devansa and then Boozer and then him 494 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 9: because then you're talking about Caleb Wilson and Kingston Plembings, 495 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 9: those guys, Keaton Woggler, those are like, you know, four 496 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 9: or five six at some point. Still, the talent is 497 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 9: going to override because he's better than He's better than 498 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 9: those guys, So he's not He's not going past three 499 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 9: in the draft. But man, is it scary for those 500 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 9: NBA teams, you know, once they do all their homework, 501 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 9: because the guy can't get through a college season, his 502 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 9: first college season healthy. 503 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 4: Let me ask you about Michigan. One of the best 504 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 4: teams in the country, if not the best. I may 505 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 4: have a couple bucks on them to win the title. 506 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 4: They have a great game against Duke. 507 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 3: This is it. 508 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 4: It reminds me of the Remember the Fab five back 509 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 4: in the day, Yes you do. They had a couple 510 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 4: of games against Duke in the regular season. Those were like, 511 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 4: Holy who are these guys? I don't know if this 512 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 4: game will have that cachet, but Michigan Duke. 513 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 3: You mentioned Boozer. I kind of like Michigan in this game. 514 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 3: It's Saturday. Is a great day for college basketball. 515 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 9: Yeah, Saturday is a great day, and that is going 516 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 9: to be an unbelievable matchup. And Cameron Boozer's he's the 517 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 9: clubhouse leader for National Player of the Year right now. 518 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 9: Like he's been a steady hand for this Duke team, 519 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 9: has kept him in the top five all season long. 520 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 9: He's one of the most versatile players in the country. 521 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 9: And you know, he doesn't have the flash of Peterson 522 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 9: and the Banza or even like a Kingston Flemings, but man, 523 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 9: he can post up. He's a he actually is a 524 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 9: very underrated passer. Okay, he can shoot the three. He 525 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 9: can shoot the three. He's a good athlete and he's 526 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 9: an excellent defender. He's like everything that you want, and 527 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 9: you know what you're going to get from him, night 528 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 9: in and night out. He's going to show up thirty 529 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 9: to thirty five minutes. He's going to give you the 530 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 9: twenty two points, nearly a double double, all all those things. 531 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 9: But he's gonna have a heck of a matchup on 532 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 9: the other side. Yaxell Lindeborg is going to be a 533 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 9: first or second team All American. He's probably gonna be 534 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 9: a first round draft pick. And if you don't know 535 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 9: Yaxell Lindenborg, get to know that name. I got to 536 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 9: spend some time around that guy this summer at the 537 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 9: Nike Basketball Academy where like a lot of the top 538 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 9: players in the country, Braiden Burry's, Braden Smith, Thomas Howe 539 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 9: from Florida, they were all there, and Jaxvill Lindenborg man, 540 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 9: he's a special type player. And if you watch the 541 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 9: way Dusty Dusty May uses him all around the floor. 542 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 9: He gets to handle the ball. He's six', nine he, 543 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 9: shoots he shoots. Threes he's a switchable that he's a switchable. 544 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 9: Defender i'm really looking forward to, that to that matchup right, 545 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 9: there of those two guys getting some head to head 546 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 9: action against each. 547 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,479 Speaker 4: Other, yeah it's. INTERESTING i Love. LENDENBORG i didn't realize. 548 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 4: THIS i just looked it. Up mile he's twenty. 549 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 8: Three twenty three. 550 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 3: Years old here losers. Eighteen that's five year age gap For. 551 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 3: LINDENBORG i Like michigan this weekend to win the. 552 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 4: Game but that's, LISTEN i know you played up playing Aau, 553 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 4: listen an eighteen year old against the twenty. 554 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 3: Three that's a humongous. 555 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 4: Gap that is kind of a new thing in college, 556 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 4: hoops but you don't usually get elite guys Like. Lindaborg 557 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 4: tell me about This Nike. Camp did he did he dominate? 558 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 3: Everyone, yeah he. 559 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 8: Was one of the best players. There he really. 560 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 9: Was Braden smith was probably the best player at That nike. 561 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 9: Camp he like he like he Dominated Braden smith's, teams 562 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 9: like won like all the scrimmages just because he's so 563 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 9: smart and he could set guys. Up But lindeborg just 564 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 9: showed this like elite skill set of shooting the, basketball 565 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,479 Speaker 9: handling it at his, size the, athleticism and then like 566 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 9: THINGS i look for is kind of like some, intangibles 567 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 9: like how hard you play all the, time how you, 568 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 9: compete how you. 569 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 8: Go about your work in the in the drill. 570 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 9: Work because it's like it was really like two a 571 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 9: day sessions and he just brought the whole package for 572 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 9: the three days that we were out in A Thousand oaks. 573 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 9: Area and he's become obviously one of the best player 574 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 9: in college basketball this. Year And Dusty may has really 575 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 9: unlocked his unlocked his talent with the way that he uses. 576 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 4: Them, DAMN i got to get an invite to that 577 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 4: next that's not that far from, me AND i. 578 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 3: Love me Some polish. 579 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 4: For. 580 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 3: Sure, yeah on The big ten real. 581 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 4: Quick so it looks like there are Four big ten 582 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 4: teams in the top ten In Ken. 583 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 3: PUMP i Like illinois a. Lot they've got a stack. 584 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 4: Roster do you think we'll definitely see one or Two 585 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 4: big ten teams in the final? 586 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 9: Four, YEAH i definitely think. THAT i Think michigan's one of. 587 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,239 Speaker 9: THEM i think THEY'LL i think they'll get. There and 588 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 9: then you mentioned the other. ONE i think ILL i Think. 589 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 9: ILLINOIS i had The illinois game Against purdue At Maci, 590 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 9: arena and that was The Keaton Woggler show. 591 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 8: Where he put up for where he put, up where 592 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 8: he put up forty six. 593 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 9: Points and this, freshman here's a guy that's from the 594 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 9: state Of, kansas, right and he doesn't end up At 595 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 9: kansas Or Kansas state where he he was a back 596 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 9: to back state, Champion, okay a back to back state 597 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 9: player of The, year and he escapes the state Of 598 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 9: kansas and ends up In. Illinois but the THINGS i 599 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 9: love About illinois they they went on a run here 600 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 9: over the last few weeks without one of their best. 601 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 9: Players boswell was out with the with the injured. Hand 602 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 9: he just came back within the last couple of. Games 603 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 9: they blew out usc last night With boswell he's been 604 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 9: back in the lineup the last couple of. Games But 605 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 9: illinois is a big, team like basically when they Start 606 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 9: woggler at the, point they Have, stojakovic the. 607 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 8: Vs bro The vsitch, brothers both at seven. 608 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 9: Feet one plays inside and block, shots the other one shoots. 609 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 9: Threes Brad underwood ones like a spread ball screen type of. 610 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 9: Offense like they're really really fun to. Watch and then their, 611 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 9: size it's hard to it's hard to score over. Them 612 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 9: SO i think those two. Teams nebraska has taken a 613 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 9: little bit of a dip as of, late so they 614 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 9: struggled a little. Bit purdue obviously got beat at home 615 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 9: By michigan this. WEEKEND i think there maybe a. SECOND 616 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 9: i think they're probably like a second weekend, team and 617 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 9: that's mostly Because Braden smith is so good and he 618 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 9: can lead you to winning like a couple of. GAMES 619 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 9: i don't know that they're deep enough or can score 620 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 9: enough as to get to get to the, final to 621 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 9: get to the pinal. 622 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 4: Four, hey it's not on our sheet, here BUT i 623 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 4: just remember The Mick cronin video from this. Week i'm 624 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 4: sure you've seen. IT ucla coach kind of ejects his. 625 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 4: PLAYER i don't know we can cut it up on the, 626 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 4: screen but we did talk about it this, week and you, 627 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 4: know we watched it multiple. Times, miles you played a 628 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 4: lot of. Basketball it didn't look like a dirty play 629 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 4: to me when you slow it. Down but down twenty, 630 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 4: five guy in the, air Maybe cronin. 631 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 3: Overreacted did you have a take on mc cronin? 632 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 7: THERE i. 633 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 9: Do and the kid was making a play on the. 634 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 9: Basketball when you watch that, play, Okay Like i've been, 635 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 9: Coaching i've been coaching for a long. Time Like i'm 636 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 9: a former, player But i've been coaching for the last 637 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 9: eighteen to twenty years at all. Levels and things that 638 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 9: you ask players to do at all, Times, okay whether 639 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 9: you're up twenty five or down twenty five is play 640 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 9: as hard as you. 641 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 8: Can. 642 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 9: Okay so they're down twenty Five Michigan, state and this 643 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 9: kid is, sprinting sprinting his butt back on defense to 644 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 9: try to make a play and not give up a. 645 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 9: Dunk there was nothing they called a, flagrant but, man 646 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 9: he was making a play on the. Ball, yeah, Okay 647 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 9: and and and it was a good. Play and this 648 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 9: kid played hall Like i'm sure in, Practices Mick cronin 649 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 9: and asked not only that young man but the team. 650 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 8: To, like, hey, compete play hard at all. Times that's 651 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 8: what he was. 652 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 9: Doing AND i didn't think it was right that he 653 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 9: ejected the kid from the. Game, like, yeah they called 654 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 9: it a, flagrant BUT i thought the kid was was, 655 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 9: hustling as was hustling his butt off to like like play, 656 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 9: hard and that's the. Thing that's that's the things you 657 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 9: ask from a player as a. Coach SO i don't 658 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 9: think it was right that he that he got, eject 659 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 9: that he got ejected by his. 660 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 8: Coach, yeah in that. 661 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 9: Moment, yeah, YEAH i didn't think that WAS i didn't 662 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 9: think that was right at. 663 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 4: ALL i, mean at full, speed it looks, dangerous but 664 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 4: when you slow it down and then, realize, like, oh 665 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 4: there's no ill ill intent, here there was no there. 666 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 8: Was, no there was No it was not The Providence 667 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 8: Saint John. Sinaria, no that was let's put it that. 668 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 9: Way AND i think maybe that was like maybe what 669 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 9: Coach cronin was, stinking but it's not it's not even 670 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 9: close like The Providence Saint john's thing was like he 671 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 9: got hit in the face and like not to the 672 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 9: ground and then there's a melee and all this, Stuff 673 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 9: but this was a kid playing hard at the end 674 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 9: of the, game down twenty down twenty seven. POINTS i 675 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 9: would ask that kid to do that thing one hundred more. 676 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 7: TIMES i. 677 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 4: Agree you see on the Screen miles one in AN 678 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 4: nba title with The lakers as an assistant coach who 679 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 4: contractually obligated to ask you About. 680 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 3: Lebron first of, all how was your run with The? 681 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 4: Lakers and THEN i don't, know have you given any 682 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 4: thought to what you Think lebron may or may not do? 683 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 8: Here my run with The lakers was. 684 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 9: Amazing, OBVIOUSLY i was fortunate enough to win the championship 685 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 9: in twenty twenty as an assistant coach With Frank vogel 686 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 9: and all the great players that we, Had, Lebron Anthony, 687 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 9: Davis Raijon, Rondo Kyle, Kuzma, caruso all these, Guys, LIKE i, 688 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 9: mean amazing time As lakers, coach AND i mean nothing 689 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 9: more special than winning winning the. Championship by the, way 690 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 9: it was the hardest championship in the, bubble no disputing 691 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 9: that on my. End appreciate the backing the backing of, 692 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 9: that So lebron, like it's amazing what he what he's 693 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 9: doing like year twenty three and still putting up these 694 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 9: type of numbers and like competing at the highest level 695 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,719 Speaker 9: like nobody's, nobody nobody's done, that just like special special, 696 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 9: Guy like my time around him was was, Unbelievable just 697 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 9: like how meticulous he is in his preparation to stay 698 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 9: at this high level for this long has been. 699 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 4: Unbelievable, yeah all, Right Miles, Simon Fox Sports College Basketball. 700 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 4: Analysts great, stuff, Man and uh look forward to your. 701 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 3: Gate what are you? Game you Got? 702 00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 8: Saturday i'll actually be where You're i'll be in studio this. 703 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 9: Weekend. Ok, Yeah i'm in studio this weekend and then 704 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 9: the next one i'll. Have i'll Have Aj debonsa next. 705 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 8: Week. 706 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 4: Yeah we barely got to ask you about De, bonsa 707 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 4: but a tremendous. Player and keep up the good, Work. 708 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 4: Miles thanks, man appreciate. 709 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 8: It thanks for having. 710 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 4: Me all, Right Miles, Simon Fox Sports College Basketball. 711 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 3: Analysts you guys KNOW i love college. Too, RACHEL i 712 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 3: try so. 713 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 4: Hard crowbarred in the, Show cowhard's a little reluctant on. That, 714 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 4: listen you AND i will Talk Darren peterson in like 715 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 4: twenty minutes, YEAH i can't wait to get into. 716 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 3: That and, hey real quick, THOUGH i saw you getting. 717 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 4: Excited you were, like, yeah The Bubble. 718 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 5: Championship it trives me. Crazy can you people put an 719 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 5: asterix next to, This, like here's how you know how 720 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 5: hard it. Was the teams were so like unhappy and 721 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:47,959 Speaker 5: overwhelmed by how difficult it. 722 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 3: Was they wanted to go. 723 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 5: Home they. Voluntarily, basically there was a. Vote do you 724 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 5: remember That there was a vote about whether they should. 725 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 5: Leave among the, players it was so hard in there 726 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 5: that players were, like, Nah i'm, good Maybe i'll try 727 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,239 Speaker 5: for AN nba title next. Year guys who professionally are 728 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 5: the best of the best at wanting to win a. 729 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 5: Championship there were a huge block of them who were, 730 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 5: like it's not even worth. 731 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 3: It this is so. 732 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 5: Difficult it was the toughest Championship i've seen in a long. 733 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 5: Time one With miles one hundred percent and great guy 734 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 5: by the, way. 735 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 4: Yes Miles, Simon all, right coming up, Next rachel's gonna 736 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 4: tell us if an all time great should hang them 737 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 4: up in THE. 738 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 3: Nba that's next. 739 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 2: Year on The, herd be sure to catch live editions 740 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 2: Of The herd weekdays in Noon easter not a Em. 741 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 2: Pacific Fox Sports radio was taking Over YouTube and you 742 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 2: can be a part of. 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Year 756 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh steelers in My New York, Jets, willy how you doing? 757 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 7: Man what's? 758 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 4: Up? 759 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 7: Brother you look? Good look at? Us who would have, Thought. 760 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 4: YEAH i, KNOW i remember doing stuff with you back 761 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,959 Speaker 4: in the day out here IN la AND i would 762 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 4: love to pick your brain because you're A jets. Guy 763 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 4: tough times for Our. JETS i know the staff will 764 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 4: be upset That i'm starting. 765 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 3: HERE i gotta start with The. Jets we don't have 766 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 3: a quarterback next. 767 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 4: Year we've got an embattled coach In Aaron, glenn we 768 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 4: got a weak quarterback market in free. Agency ain't Getting 769 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 4: Fernando mendoza. One what are we doing at? Quarterback and 770 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 4: for The. 771 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 10: Jets, well that's a good question to just have to 772 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 10: find their way out of quarterback. 773 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 7: Purgatory as you mentioned right. 774 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 10: Now for, ME i know, YOU i just heard you 775 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 10: talk About Malik. WILLIS i would take a shot at 776 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 10: him right. NOW i think The jets really just need 777 00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 10: competent quarterback. 778 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 7: Play you, Know Aaron glenn got the. 779 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 10: Position he Told Jet nation And jet, fans we're gonna 780 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 10: have a physical. Outfit we're gonna go out, there play 781 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 10: rough and, tough and we're gonna win, games and you're 782 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 10: gonna be proud of. 783 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 7: Us outside Of week. 784 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 10: One of last year against The Pittsburgh, steelers there's nothing 785 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 10: to be proud. Of Right, like when we saw The 786 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 10: jets go against The steelers and the way they, Played i'm, like, oh, 787 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 10: man if this is what he's talking, about sign us. 788 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 7: Up none of that fell into fruition. 789 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 10: After that, game solely because of the quarterback play was so. 790 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 10: Poor if you're The jets right, NOW i understand you 791 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 10: don't want to go out there and take a long. 792 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 10: SHOT i MAYBE i don't Know Malik willis Or, mariota 793 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 10: but at the end of the, day you can't survive 794 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 10: the way you survived last. YEAR i, mean this team 795 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 10: finished with three and fourteen and it was just. Bad 796 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 10: this team was done Before, halloween so they got to 797 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 10: figure that. 798 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 7: OUT i also, think you. 799 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 10: Know you have two you have this second pick and you 800 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 10: have the sixteenth. Pick you have to dive into the. 801 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 10: Defense go get you an edge, rusher maybe get some 802 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,760 Speaker 10: help in the, secondary use those picks, defensively and, overall, 803 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 10: man you just got to get back to being a 804 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 10: competent football. 805 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 7: Team they're not. Competent it something to whole all over this. 806 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 10: Team it's gonna be it's gonna take a long road 807 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 10: to kind of fill those. 808 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 7: Voice but, nevertheless starts. 809 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 10: With the, quarterback to find some help defensively in the, 810 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 10: draft and hopefully this thing can turn around for, YOU J. 811 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 3: Mack and look at. That look at that stat on the. 812 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 4: Screen games with zero offensive touchdowns since twenty, fifteen The 813 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,760 Speaker 4: jets by a mile are number. 814 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 3: One and then at the bottom of the. 815 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 4: Screen Woody johnson interferes With jets defensive coordinator. 816 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 3: PLANS i, mean they're a dumpster. Fire it. 817 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 4: Stinks you, know here's my only problem with going After 818 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 4: Malik willis or whoever you're Not you're gonna be too 819 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 4: good to get like a top three Pick, willie AND 820 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 4: i believe they need to JUST i know you don't 821 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 4: want to hear, this And Aaron glenn certainly. Doesn't but 822 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 4: the only way to get that great quarterback or get you, 823 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 4: Know Arch banding or. C. 824 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 3: J carror, whoever is to be. TERRIBLE i, mean look 825 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:53,399 Speaker 3: at The. Raiders they essentially. Down, huh like they've been. 826 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 7: TERRIBLE i love you want to be. 827 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 10: Terrible the REASON i like The Milik willis pick up 828 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 10: is because you Have Frank, wright who's A oc who 829 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 10: has the ability to develop young. 830 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 7: Quarterbacks you have a good office. Line you're gonna have 831 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 7: to Chain Breese hall to the. 832 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 10: Building that seems like he wants, out but he's your 833 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,280 Speaker 10: best offensive weapon outside Of Garrett. 834 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 7: Wilson you also have an office. 835 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 10: Line once, again who can protect a young guy like? 836 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 10: That so for, me it just makes sense that you 837 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 10: have somebody who's a plug and play quarterback that can 838 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 10: at least give you some hope On, sunday right like 839 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,399 Speaker 10: The jets have no. Hope we were sold That Justin 840 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 10: fields was going to be the guy like he had 841 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 10: changed everything, around you, know LIKE i, Know. 842 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 7: Justin fields is a. Rap let's pack him, up. 843 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 10: Right and so if you're The, jets you need an 844 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 10: adult at the. 845 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:35,919 Speaker 7: Position if they. 846 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 10: Can get that in the offseason or at least by 847 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,959 Speaker 10: time until the next year's draft where the quarterback draft's 848 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 10: supposed to be, better hopefully there's hope. 849 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 7: There but right now you need. 850 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 10: Something you can't go into the season and looking at 851 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 10: having this offense look like what they looked like. 852 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 3: Last year and last one on The. 853 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 4: Jets can you even envision a scenario where the owner 854 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 4: is meddling with the defensive game, plan which is what's 855 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,760 Speaker 4: being alledged right Now Aaron glenn to hire a certain 856 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 4: guy and then he was told them the owner has 857 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 4: a defensive game plan that doesn't align with what you. 858 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 3: WANT i, mean it's. Rough. 859 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,800 Speaker 10: Man, WELL i don't know if all that's. TRUE i honestly, 860 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 10: THOUGH i think it. Comes this is WHAT i. BELIEVE 861 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 10: i Believe Aaron glenn was hired to be a defensive 862 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 10: massive mind on top of a head. 863 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 7: Coach, right AND i think. 864 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 10: The job he did In detroit was so significant That 865 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 10: Woody johnson's, like, hey, Man i'm paying you twelve million, dollars. 866 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 7: Right you lead our? Defense, right you figure it? 867 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 10: Out why would you bring like a guy Like Link 868 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 10: martindale somebody else in the building to do what Ultimately 869 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 10: i'm hiring you to. Do so my, mindset If I'm, 870 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,399 Speaker 10: Woody i'm Like, doug it's time for you to show. 871 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 7: Up, RIGHT i was. 872 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 10: Whole you're not only a Former jet you know the. 873 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 10: Market you've been able to survive the media. Firestorm we 874 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 10: need you to show up and make this defense. Relevant 875 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 10: they have pieces now they need, more, right they need 876 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 10: to be able to stop the. Run they gotta find 877 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 10: some help on the back. End but, nevertheless, Man Aaron, 878 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 10: glenn we were told was a savant defensively show up 879 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 10: for Ust Aaron lynn in that department because, honestly J, 880 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 10: mg like you, said you're A jets, fan, dude can 881 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 10: you point out what's arangling superpower as a head? 882 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,439 Speaker 3: Coach, no as of, now we don't know at. All 883 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 3: you know that's not? 884 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 4: Great, yeah let's go to the other team you played, 885 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 4: For William Pittsburgh. 886 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 3: Steelers, listen they're not in great shape right. 887 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 4: Now Aaron rodgers is, Waffling mike McCarthy may or may 888 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 4: not want to get back in bed with. Him and 889 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,839 Speaker 4: then there's Been Ben roethlisberger's. Stuff Big ben's been gone 890 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 4: for a, minute and now. 891 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 3: There's all this. Beef you know The, Steelers you, Know Big? 892 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 3: Ben do you have you picked a side yet in this? 893 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 7: ONE i hate? This do you want? Me is that 894 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 7: what you're looking? 895 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 10: For you're looking for me to, SAY i hate, THIS 896 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 10: i don't like, THIS i don't like this is a, 897 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 10: brotherhood this is a, family and somehow family business is 898 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 10: now on the. Street that's not to steal away and 899 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 10: that's not how we handle ourselves when you leave this 900 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 10: still in the locker. Room we're all considered ambassadors of the. 901 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 7: Brand And i'll say, this. 902 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 10: And it's tough Because i'm trying to like be careful 903 00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:57,799 Speaker 10: with my. 904 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 7: Words you, Know Ben roethlisberger's like a brother to. Me he's. 905 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 7: Family Joey porter is. 906 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,359 Speaker 10: Somebody WHEN i was drafted in two thousand and six 907 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,320 Speaker 10: to The Pittsburgh, steelers he. 908 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:07,399 Speaker 7: Was the alpha male in the locker. 909 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 10: Room he was the lead DOG i used to seek 910 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 10: VALID i wanted to seek validation through him because he 911 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:13,919 Speaker 10: was the guy that say that's a stealer and that's 912 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 10: not a. Stealer James harrison is like my brother as, 913 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 10: well SO i have close ties to all these. 914 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 7: Individuals that's a part of this. 915 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 10: Story, NEVERTHELESS i think it's important to Give Ben roethlisberger, 916 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 10: grace right BECAUSE i think when he retired and he 917 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 10: stepped away from the, GAME i think he's openly, Admitted hey, 918 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 10: MAN i could have handled situations. 919 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 7: BETTER i could have been better with. 920 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 10: Teammates now that he's in his forties and a father of, 921 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 10: two he understands. 922 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 7: His wrong and, rights AND i think all. 923 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 10: That needs to be handled a conversation that is behind closed. 924 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,879 Speaker 10: Doors because thing about, this J. Mac three guys went 925 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 10: into The Steeler hall Of fame this. Year you know 926 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 10: who they, Are Ben, Roethlisberger Joey porter And Marquise. Pouncy 927 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 10: whatever gripe you had With Ben, roethlisberger you could have 928 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 10: had that behind The Great steeler. Curtain So dow does 929 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 10: That does that Mean Joey porter shouldn't have said anything 930 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,799 Speaker 10: or he doesn't Have No Joey porter HAS g five 931 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 10: classification to speak on, anything, present past and. Future he 932 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 10: is an iconic figure and a steal their. History, nevertheless 933 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 10: there's a certain way we have to conduct hold, ourselves 934 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 10: if you, will as Former steelers and even President. Steelers 935 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 10: still a business belongs in steel a house lighting now. 936 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:21,799 Speaker 7: In a public on a. 937 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 10: Podcast valet Was Cam haywi's. Podcast you, know we just 938 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 10: got to be more. CAREFUL i got a lot of 939 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 10: love for all those. BROTHERS i just wish you didn't go. 940 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 4: Public, YEAH i don't know If Big ben started, it 941 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,320 Speaker 4: But i'll Ask, willie do you think there's a racial 942 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 4: element to This Big Ben Tomlin? 943 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 7: Porter, No, no that's. NONSENSE i. 944 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 10: KNOW i don't even know what that component would be. 945 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 7: Like you would have to help. ME i don't EVEN i. 946 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 4: Would ben seems to be taking a lot of shots 947 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 4: At tomlin on his way out the, door And i'm 948 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 4: just like Why tomlin was beloved and Then Big. BEN 949 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 4: i don't want to say he started, it you know, 950 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 4: whatever but he seemed to go After tomlin a little 951 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 4: bit down the. Stretch we need to voice in the 952 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 4: locker room and unable to win postseason. Games it just felt. 953 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 3: Weird. Tomlin, again nobody goes After. 954 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 10: TOMLIN i, mean the Reason i'm confused about the racial 955 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 10: component because there's another person who's An African american who's 956 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,880 Speaker 10: been very vocal About Mike, tomlin and That's James, harrison, 957 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,319 Speaker 10: Right and so that's Why i'm confuse with the. 958 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,320 Speaker 7: Statement, nevertheless, man it's. 959 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,799 Speaker 10: Okay to have gripes about how you felt about the 960 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 10: Great Mike, tomlan whether you think he was great or 961 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:30,840 Speaker 10: you thought he simply was handed the keys to a 962 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 10: porch and he was told not to crash. 963 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 8: It. 964 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 7: Whatever the man's a winner very. 965 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 10: Much HOW i Perceived Ben, roethlisberger he's a runner very 966 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,359 Speaker 10: much HOW i Perceive Joey porter And James. 967 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:40,359 Speaker 7: Harrison we're all. 968 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 10: Winners we lived in an area still a football where 969 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 10: it was, great it was prime and it was. Real 970 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 10: now that we're all older men stepped away from the, 971 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 10: game we all have media. SPOTLIGHTS i Know james has this, 972 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 10: podcast so Does. 973 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 7: Ben i'm out here In fox with. You we're doing our. Thing. 974 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 10: Man sometimes we tend to have theater of the, mind, 975 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 10: right and we got to step back and be a 976 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 10: lot more careful about how we talk talk about form 977 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 10: history or our time in the locker, room because with that, 978 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 10: history there's a name attached to, that and if you 979 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 10: love the man that has that, name let's just be 980 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:09,360 Speaker 10: conscious of. 981 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,760 Speaker 4: It, yeah let me ask about The raiders And Max. 982 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 4: Crosby weird situation unfolding In. Vegas crosby tatted up with The, 983 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 4: raiders tats on, him and now he wants. Out raiders are, like, no, no, no, 984 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 4: man we need you for our. 985 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 3: Culture. 986 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 4: Here they're going they're starting to rebuild With mendoza seemingly 987 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 4: through the. Draft But crosby's going on, Podcasts he's kissing 988 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:29,959 Speaker 4: up To Caleb. 989 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 3: Williams just all very. Strange obviously he's still an elite defensive. 990 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 3: End what do you think The raiders do? 991 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 7: Here, well they dont beg him to. 992 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 10: Stay but If I'm Max, CROSBY i went, out you, 993 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 10: KNOW i, think, YEAH i took the bag AND i 994 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 10: told YOU i wanted to stay WHEN i signed my 995 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 10: name on that. Contract but how do you see this 996 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 10: team evolving the next couple of. Years it's going to 997 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 10: take some. TIME i don't know If Max crosby has that. 998 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:55,880 Speaker 7: Time, Valley he's. 999 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,360 Speaker 10: Been able to be one of he's been able to 1000 00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 10: be one of the most elite past rushers of this. 1001 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 7: Time but he wants to go. 1002 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 10: Win and if you're able to go play with a 1003 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 10: quarterback who you're fond of In Caleb williams and a 1004 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 10: defense that needs you because they need a, Closer Mass 1005 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 10: crosby is a, closer and you have an opportunity to 1006 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 10: play in a city where if you win A Super 1007 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 10: bowl In, chicago forget about, it like you won't have 1008 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 10: to pay for Another dinna in A chicago for the 1009 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 10: rest of your. Life Max crosby at this in my, 1010 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 10: eyes has done all he can for The raid of. 1011 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,320 Speaker 7: Organization he's been the ultimate. 1012 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 10: Teammate he's playing through anything and. Everything he's quiet the 1013 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 10: noise in the locker, room he's kept the band. Together 1014 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 10: he's produced here after. Year if you Love Masx, crosby 1015 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 10: you send him down the, road SAY i get, it 1016 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 10: thank you for your. Time and if you're The, raiders 1017 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 10: hopefully you get A Dj moore that can help your 1018 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 10: receiver cord or if you're going to bring a young, 1019 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 10: quarterback that can help your young quarterback. Out but If 1020 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 10: I'm Max, CROSBY i would feel like my time is 1021 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 10: done and send me off To. 1022 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,320 Speaker 3: Chicago i'm just curious about The mendoza. 1023 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:58,240 Speaker 4: Angle you, know you Played, Pittsburgh Big ben, Obviously jets multiple. 1024 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,760 Speaker 4: Quarterbacks what do you Make? Mendoza he feels a little. 1025 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,319 Speaker 4: Different i'm a huge. FAN i like EVERYTHING i hear 1026 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 4: and read about. Him his story is, Amazing but it 1027 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 4: does seem like there are some doubters based on some 1028 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 4: reports out, there specifically In. Vegas based on what you've 1029 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,359 Speaker 4: read and what you know About, mendoza what are your 1030 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:17,360 Speaker 4: thoughts on him coming into the. 1031 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 10: League you, KNOW i think it's tough for any quarterback 1032 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:21,400 Speaker 10: of his. 1033 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 7: Caliber step And flippo. 1034 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,959 Speaker 10: Organization to the right side, thing meaning like they don't 1035 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 10: have an office. Line they have the thirty first ran 1036 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 10: office line of. Football they don't have a defensive, line 1037 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 10: they don't have a receiving. Court they Send Jacobe myers To. 1038 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,319 Speaker 10: Jacksonville now it valid they have Brock bauers and, gent 1039 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 10: but there's a lot needed there In Las. Vegas you're 1040 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 10: asking a young man to come in there and do 1041 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 10: what with what? Right i've covered The New York. JETS 1042 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,560 Speaker 10: i know what this story looks like and we're still. There, 1043 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,759 Speaker 10: like rebuilds take a long, time and it takes a 1044 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 10: team to come. Together and if You're Clint kubiak and 1045 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,840 Speaker 10: you're joining the system and you just came from winning 1046 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,240 Speaker 10: A Super bowl seeing one of the most complete teams 1047 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 10: in football win, one you know what a winning outfit looks. 1048 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 10: Like and if you feel like a young quarterback is 1049 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 10: going to give you that edge or set you in 1050 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 10: the right, trajectory it's okay, saying, hey let's trade out 1051 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,239 Speaker 10: of this number one, pick let's build our team, up 1052 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,400 Speaker 10: and then next year where the quarterback draft it is 1053 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,799 Speaker 10: supposed to be more excuse me, better if you. Will 1054 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,840 Speaker 10: and in some, regards let's take a shot. There on 1055 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,879 Speaker 10: this other, mindset you put a lot you can burn 1056 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 10: out on your own quarterback early if you put a 1057 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 10: lot on his shoulders waiting for the rest of the 1058 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,400 Speaker 10: team to kind of catch. UP i feel like you 1059 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,880 Speaker 10: build a team, up plug him in, there and, boom 1060 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 10: you're off and. 1061 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,359 Speaker 7: RUNNING i think he's a competent. QUARTERBACK i don't think 1062 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 7: he's very. 1063 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 10: ATHLETIC i think he struggles off. Script but when you 1064 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 10: have the receivers he, had the office line he, had 1065 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 10: and he was coach really, well LIKE i think his 1066 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,880 Speaker 10: quarterback coach Was Chris whitmeyer that was once with The, bucks, 1067 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 10: right so kind of developed. HIM i think HE'S i 1068 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 10: think he's the best this draft has to. 1069 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 7: Offer there's still a lot to see in my. 1070 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,640 Speaker 4: Regards all, RIGHT, willi we could wrap up with This 1071 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,760 Speaker 4: Kenneth walker. Situation So Jack Zach shermane goes, Down Kenneth, 1072 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 4: walker fills in, admirably Wins Super BOWL, mvp looks, awesome 1073 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,959 Speaker 4: and then THE gm at the parade is, like, yeah 1074 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,759 Speaker 4: he wants more. Money and then it was like dead, 1075 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,799 Speaker 4: silence and it's, LIKE, Whoa, well they're going to tag, him, 1076 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 4: right and then you look and start reading and they're 1077 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:17,839 Speaker 4: like they may not tag. 1078 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 3: Him i'm a little surprised. 1079 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 4: By, this but we have seen Other Super bowl MVPs 1080 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,400 Speaker 4: teams move on from, Them Malcolm, Smith Dexter, jackson some 1081 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:27,760 Speaker 4: of these other guys who. 1082 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,279 Speaker 3: WON mvp but the team didn't want to pay. 1083 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 4: Them what's your take On Kenneth walker? 1084 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 7: HERE i, MEAN i, UNDERSTAND i understand the want to keep, him. 1085 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 10: RIGHT i think he was highly, productive especially within this, 1086 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 10: offense AND i thought he was big in a CHAMPION 1087 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 10: Nfc Championship. GAME i thought he set the tone for The. Seahawks, 1088 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 10: ultimately Will will kind of stabilize that. Offense Allowed Sam 1089 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,960 Speaker 10: darnold to win that, game and he obviously had a 1090 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 10: Big Super bowl. Game but he's not a good pass 1091 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,840 Speaker 10: catcher right AND i think he's great in between the. 1092 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,360 Speaker 10: Tackles he's. Shifty, nevertheless there's the younger guys WHO i 1093 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 10: think who can do better the. OFFENSE i think you 1094 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:02,839 Speaker 10: ship him down the. Road if there was one guy 1095 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 10: that would keep Is Rashid. Shahied he's THE x factor 1096 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 10: for that. Offense what he does on special, teams what 1097 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 10: he asks at our receiving. Corps you don't want to 1098 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 10: see a guy like that go somewhere. 1099 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:12,920 Speaker 7: Else and Make. 1100 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,880 Speaker 10: HEY i think you Get Zach charbonnay. Healthy you go 1101 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 10: into the, draft find a hungry young runner back who's 1102 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 10: willing to put his head in that fan and go 1103 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 10: get you extra, yards and then you continue on to. 1104 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 10: FORWARD i think The seahawks have a great chance of 1105 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 10: repeating next. YEAR i don't think they it holds them 1106 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 10: back if he's not a part of the. 1107 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 3: Offense Wow BOLTH i like. 1108 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 4: It Willie cologne FORMER nfl Player Steelers jets catch him 1109 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 4: on first Things, First, willie thanks a, Lot, Buddy thanks 1110 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:37,399 Speaker 4: jav