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Speaker 1: Hey Colts fans, I'm JJ Sakavitzen. Welcome in to another

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Speaker 1: episode of the Cult Show. We are an Indianapolis Colts

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about a topic that I think

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Speaker 1: is widely known but maybe not deeply understood. Consider this

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Speaker 1: your refresher on the franchise tag before we get into that. Though.

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Speaker 1: a lot of good stuff on the feed over the

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Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. I had a great chat with

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Speaker 1: Colts offensive line coach Tony Sperano Junior, learned a lot

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Speaker 1: about o line play, about coaching philosophy, and then we

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Speaker 1: pivoted a story about the time a plane crashed into

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Speaker 1: the Cult stadium after a playoff game. I think we

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Speaker 1: might be the only football podcast out there that could

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Speaker 1: pivot from a plane crash to something technical like the

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Speaker 1: franchise tag in successive episodes. But that's why I love

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Speaker 1: doing this show. The goal of this show is to

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Speaker 1: talk about all things cults and keep our fans and

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Speaker 1: our listeners and our viewers up to date and informed

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Speaker 1: and interested in everything about the team and what is

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Speaker 1: going on with it, whether it's past, present, or future.

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Speaker 1: All right, so let's talk about the franchise tag because

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday, the day we're recording this, it's sort of

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Speaker 1: the soft launch to the NFL off season. It's like

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Speaker 1: eight days after the Super Bowl and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: now teams that have been pending unrestricted free agents can

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Speaker 1: place the franchise tag or the transition tag on them.

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Speaker 1: What that means is it's a mechanism. It's a lever

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Speaker 1: this guy around. You have. Teams have until four pm

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday, March third, So this is about two weeks here,

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Speaker 1: But teams have to decide do we want to do

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Speaker 1: to get into here, so we all know, we all

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Speaker 1: have seen the franchise tag. Certainly It is a Again,

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Speaker 1: it's this kind of lever that when when you tag

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Speaker 1: someone for the most part, you're gonna keep that guy,

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Speaker 1: you don't need that. There are two different types of

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Speaker 1: franchise tags you don't really need to worry about. The

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Speaker 1: exclusive franchise tag. That's the tag that you would give

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Speaker 1: someone to prevent them from negotiating with other teams. I think,

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Speaker 1: like pretty much you'd only use it on a like if,

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Speaker 1: like say, for some reason, Josh Allen was about to

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Speaker 1: That's to the level you would use that if receiving

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Speaker 1: two first round picks in return for a guy is

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Speaker 1: not fair compensation for losing him. So it's it's a

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Speaker 1: very high bart of clear Not many teams use it.

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Speaker 1: It's only been used for time since twenty fourteen. I

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Speaker 1: think the most recent one might have been Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 1: The more common tag is the non exclusive franchise tag.

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Speaker 1: This means that when you're on the tag, you can

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Speaker 1: A player on the tag can go negotiate with other

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Speaker 1: that team has to a have the cap space necessary

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Speaker 1: just doesn't happen, Like you don't see guys do this.

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Speaker 1: The last player to have the non exclusive franchise tag

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Speaker 1: that doesn't really happen. If you get the franchise tag

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Speaker 1: team that did it. Sometimes you see like tag and trades,

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Speaker 1: So why am I talking about this? The Colts have

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Speaker 1: So if you put the tag on Daniel Jones and

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Speaker 1: he signs that tender, he's earning for a guaranteed forty

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Speaker 1: he's earning a guaranteed twenty eight point eight million in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. Now these are from over the cap.

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Speaker 1: But the cap has gone up again, so the franchise

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Speaker 1: direct experience with the transition tag. It's only been used

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Speaker 1: six times in the last ten years. The Steelers used

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Speaker 1: it in twenty fourteen on Jason Worlds. The Browns used

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Speaker 1: it also in twenty fourteen on center Alex Mack. The

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Speaker 1: Dolphins used it in twenty fifteen on tight end Charles Clay.

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Speaker 1: Here's where it comes in for me. The Bears used

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Speaker 1: what happened when they put the transition tag on Kyle Fuller.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Fuller was a guy who underperformed first round expectations

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Speaker 1: He played at a really high level. Going into his

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Speaker 1: So like if you put the franchise tag on a

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Speaker 1: we're gonna start at twenty eight point eight million per year,

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Speaker 1: The transition tag costs you less, but you don't get

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Speaker 1: in a way that you don't with the franchise tag.

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Speaker 1: So the transition tag for a quarterback is forty point

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Speaker 1: seven it's really about forty point eight million according to

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Speaker 1: over the Cap. For a wide receiver, it's about twenty

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Speaker 1: five million. So that's a big difference in average annual value.

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Speaker 1: If you think about it this way, that three point

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Speaker 1: You can't use the franchise tag and the transition tag.

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Speaker 1: You have to pick between the franchise tag or the

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Speaker 1: transition tag, and you can only use it once per

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Speaker 1: off season. That would allow them to and this is

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Speaker 1: all hypothetical, This is no inside information. This is more informative.

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Speaker 1: If the Cults were to use the transition tag on

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Speaker 1: sign an offer sheet somewhere else, the Colts could say,

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Speaker 1: huh okay, So we weren't able to figure out what

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Speaker 1: his market value was, or we weren't able to work

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Speaker 1: The market is now dictated what his value is. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go ahead and match that. No, we're going

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Speaker 1: to decline and match that. It's pretty rare for a

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Speaker 1: Looking at it, only two players played on the transition tag,

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Speaker 1: So it's really rare for a guy to be given

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Speaker 1: the team that offered them the transition tag. Excuse me,

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Speaker 1: It could happen. Certainly, but it's the sort of the

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Speaker 1: to be a placeholder for an extension. This is what

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Speaker 1: the Colts did in twenty twenty four with Michael Pittman

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Speaker 1: Junior when they use the franchise tag on pitt and

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Speaker 1: it's that placeholder for an extension. Same probably for the

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Speaker 1: come say hi. I would be happy to chat talk ball.

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Speaker 1: I'll be kind of roaming around downtown Indianapolis, making my

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Speaker 1: way down from my home in Carmel, spending a lot

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Speaker 1: of time in downtown India this week. I can't wait.

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Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite weeks of the year. You

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Speaker 1: gain so much knowledge, you gain so much insight, you

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Speaker 1: talk so much football, what could be better? And you know,

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Speaker 1: I'll probably have a stake or two down at Santomos.

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Speaker 1: So anyways, that's gonna do it. For this episode of

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Speaker 1: The Cult Show, we are presented by Microsoft Surface co

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Speaker 1: Pilot plus PC. Talk to you next week here on

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Speaker 1: The Colt Show in Indianapolis. Colts Podcast So Long