Speaker 1: It's nine oh gene one engine with Jenny Garth and
Speaker 1: Tory Spelling. This is actually going to be a pretty
Speaker 1: big episode. I totally agree. This is season eight, episode
Speaker 1: twenty three, Making Amends, aired March eleventh, nineteen ninety eight,
Speaker 1: gives the synopsis synopsis.
Speaker 2: Donna comes clean and gets the axe at work, David
Speaker 2: gets a beach house as a music business perk. Kelly
Speaker 2: wants to adopt a teen mom's baby. Brandon finds out
Speaker 2: David's manager is Shay Bady. Valerie can't forget a night
Speaker 2: she can't remember. Steve falls for a pen pal but
Speaker 2: doesn't know the sender.
Speaker 1: Directed by Joel J. Big Inva, written by L Treatman.
Speaker 1: That's a new writer.
Speaker 2: There's so much confusion. I'm just gonna jump off with
Speaker 2: a few things and then we'll dig into it. Number one,
Speaker 2: the whole Steve thing, I couldn't even follow. I was like,
Speaker 2: what's happening?
Speaker 1: Who's dead? I don't know who's dead?
Speaker 2: And why is he responding to the letters? And it's
Speaker 2: just that made no sense to me. I was like,
Speaker 2: I cannot follow this. Then all of a sudden, I'm like,
Speaker 2: are you kidnapping a baby again?
Speaker 1: Again, I like babies. I want to tell you, like what.
Speaker 2: Is happening there? Like they just they don't. That's not
Speaker 2: how it works. They wouldn't just let you have the baby.
Speaker 2: And also you sort of took the baby.
Speaker 1: Well, it was on the doorstep, and what am I
Speaker 1: she did? It's nighttime, so she takes it home. I
Speaker 1: would do the same thing, honestly, if I found a
Speaker 1: newborn baby outside my door, I'd pick it up and
Speaker 1: I take it home. It takes more of it. I'd
Speaker 1: be so happy.
Speaker 2: Bird are the teens of America just itching for a
Speaker 2: storyline about Paola? Like, I don't even understand why they thought, like,
Speaker 2: you know what, people are gonna really be into us
Speaker 2: just having a radio station.
Speaker 1: It's just like, oh my god. Yeah, Well I was
Speaker 1: excited because David, you know, he's well on his way
Speaker 1: to being just a huge musical success.
Speaker 2: And then we find out Bump Bump bum it's not real.
Speaker 2: Their label is up to shady, no good tricks.
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean his music wasn't great. And you know,
Speaker 1: record label labelable, labelable. I love that song, it's so catchy.
Speaker 2: My thing was this episode again, could have been great,
Speaker 2: but it was also so confusing. Can we start with
Speaker 2: the pen pal stuff because that, to me was the
Speaker 2: dumbest part.
Speaker 1: Okay, so he's he Steve falls for a girl named
Speaker 1: Jill who was writing love letters basically to Ted, who
Speaker 1: we have no idea who Ted is. And then so
Speaker 1: Steve pretends to be Ted.
Speaker 2: So are the letters coming to the paper's office?
Speaker 1: I guess, so maybe she has the wrong address. But
Speaker 1: also isn't it illegal? Yeah, it's illegal for him to
Speaker 1: read the letters.
Speaker 2: It's like a full crime. Maybe they've been dropped off
Speaker 2: and he's also perpetrating someone like he's like replying like
Speaker 2: he's him. Why wouldn't he just clap put on their
Speaker 2: return to send her and off they go?
Speaker 1: Because they smell good?
Speaker 2: Yeah, first of all that was super confusing too. I
Speaker 2: was like, what are they talking about? And each letter
Speaker 2: had like a different scent.
Speaker 1: And apparently Steve is so hard up that he that's
Speaker 1: enough for him.
Speaker 2: Letterly quite dumb, I have to say, like that storyline,
Speaker 2: and then he meets her at the end and it's
Speaker 2: going to tell her the truth and then doesn't.
Speaker 1: But it's not because she's beautiful, shocking, Yeah, he sees
Speaker 1: what she looks like and on the spot he pretends
Speaker 1: again to just go through a betead.
Speaker 2: And then we just it's like three company, like we
Speaker 2: just have to keep so next week I have to
Speaker 2: deal with this again.
Speaker 1: I just am not into it. No, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's kind of reminds me of like the storyline when
Speaker 1: when the characters were in Palm Springs and he falls
Speaker 1: in love for the with the woman that's not so yeah.
Speaker 2: So here's what I'm gonna say. It's not trophy. It's repetitive,
Speaker 2: like we're just doing the same storylines over and over again.
Speaker 2: Because I also find David's storyline, even though it's like
Speaker 2: slightly tweaked, to be the same same. Yeah, it's like
Speaker 2: we've done this. Oh, David's got a record deal. Somebody's
Speaker 2: shady a little. The record deal's gone. Oh he better
Speaker 2: pick his friends over his music.
Speaker 1: Like it's just like, oh my gosh, yeah, let's talk
Speaker 1: about that one then, because David is getting the star treatment,
Speaker 1: but Brandon comes in out of nowhere and wants to
Speaker 1: expose the shady side of the music business.
Speaker 2: Just is so like, first of all, around the River
Speaker 2: and through the woods, like we had to get rid
Speaker 2: of Jasper why he was cute. I don't know why
Speaker 2: we even had to do that. Then there's suddenly a Porsche.
Speaker 1: I didn't know why Jasper was back in the first place,
Speaker 1: because didn't he leave before?
Speaker 2: I thought that was the other guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they all kind of look alike. I gotta be honest.
Speaker 2: Yes, And it's so convoluted where you're like, I can't
Speaker 2: follow this. Then suddenly he's got this top hit. But
Speaker 2: it's so mysterious. Why so many spins?
Speaker 1: Like it's just like, yeah, he has his record exec
Speaker 1: kind of a slimy guy, slimy buttering him up, giving
Speaker 1: him a beach house, giving him a new car.
Speaker 2: And the thing that's confusing is, Okay, you don't need
Speaker 2: to butter up the artist. If there truly is like Paola,
Speaker 2: they'd be giving the Porsche to the station person.
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 2: Like it's so confusing. I actually went back on Wikipedia
Speaker 2: because I was like, was this one the big payola
Speaker 2: thing was in the news. So do you remember Elliot Spitzer. Oh,
Speaker 2: he was sort of like a some sort of politician
Speaker 2: and he cleaned up sort of any kind of stuff
Speaker 2: like this with record labels. But then he got in
Speaker 2: trouble for something like arrested for something. Later he was
Speaker 2: sort of like a New York congressman or something. I
Speaker 2: don't know, he's some politician that got in trouble, like
Speaker 2: you know, sort of one of those stories, right, So
Speaker 2: I thought, oh, maybe this was at the same time,
Speaker 2: and that's why they're doing this because it was a
Speaker 2: topical story. Nope, that happened many years later.
Speaker 1: Maybe he got the idea from watching this episode.
Speaker 2: Literally, that's literally he was like, you know what, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna get those labels anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I want him to have that new
Speaker 1: beach pad, I really do.
Speaker 2: And then he gives it all up for the like
Speaker 2: why did he give it all up? There was some
Speaker 2: sort of righteous thing.
Speaker 1: Right well, because Brandon tells him that the radio guy
Speaker 1: is couldn't you know, keeping his song in strong rotation
Speaker 1: because he's getting paid to play the song or the
Speaker 1: radio station is getting paid to play the song? What
Speaker 1: is thank you? But if it weren't for Brandon, what
Speaker 1: we would never know And he's a cute need to
Speaker 1: dig deep into the journalistic side of things, and we
Speaker 1: would never have known it. Just and it's such a
Speaker 1: coincidence that it's timed out.
Speaker 2: Just perfectly and with his best friend. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: care for it. I'm not gonna lie. I did not
Speaker 2: care for this story.
Speaker 1: Wait that they're gonna go play at a loose lizard?
Speaker 1: Is that? Was that a real place?
Speaker 2: Again? I'm watching this and like you guys, I'm not
Speaker 2: distracted when I watch this. I have my spaghetti and
Speaker 2: my salad, and I'm watching it and I cannot follow
Speaker 2: what's happening. So that's my main problem is like I
Speaker 2: actually was watching it and I can't follow it.
Speaker 1: And then wait, Steve advises Brandon not to run the
Speaker 1: story because she's concerned that it'll make Brandon seem jealous
Speaker 1: of David's success. Okay, more convoluti.
Speaker 2: I don't know what's happened. I don't run the story
Speaker 2: because no one cares. It's like we don't No, I care.
Speaker 2: I care about that song. I like that song. I
Speaker 2: would like to listen to that song right now. It
Speaker 2: was should we talk about Donna now or or you
Speaker 2: or Valerie?
Speaker 1: I talk about Donna and the drug? Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: So then she does do the right thing and goes back.
Speaker 1: Wait she does the right thing by odee.
Speaker 2: No, Well that was terrible. But was she still in
Speaker 2: the hospital when this episode started.
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: So she started.
Speaker 1: Kelly or make it out on the couch and it
Speaker 1: costs a Walsh and they get the call from Noah.
Speaker 2: Okay, that was I'm gonna have to like throw a
Speaker 2: flag on the play on like the acting. I was
Speaker 2: very jarred. At one point, Brandon's like, don't worry about it,
Speaker 2: We'll be right there. Don't worry about it, like she's
Speaker 2: in a coma.
Speaker 1: Or of course, and Kelly's reaction was as tad slow,
Speaker 1: like they couldn't tighten that up in editing, so like
Speaker 1: she looked more concerned about her best friend.
Speaker 2: And I have a real problem with David blaming Noah
Speaker 2: for all of the David, you were in the car
Speaker 2: when the car accident happened, which is where she hurt
Speaker 2: her back, which is why she had to take the
Speaker 2: drugs in the first place. You're not clean.
Speaker 1: No, that's got nothing. He didn't do anything, and I
Speaker 1: still no one didn't either. This is where the problem
Speaker 1: was is at the end of that scene, he says, well,
Speaker 1: Josh isn't the one that cheated on her, And I'm thinking, dude,
Speaker 1: you cheated on her. What I mean, right in the
Speaker 1: limo with the I remember.
Speaker 2: Geryl back in the same storyline. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I got I was like,
Speaker 1: come on, guys, and then Donna, I don't have a problem.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, you do have a problem. And it happens.
Speaker 1: Where is her mother? I guess not available.
Speaker 2: They make a mention of it. She's in a She's
Speaker 2: like in a on a trip.
Speaker 1: I mean, I come home probably if my if my
Speaker 1: daughter was o ding and in the hospital, in the
Speaker 1: er getting herself.
Speaker 2: And then she was asking for you. She's asking for you, Well,
Speaker 2: of course she's And then you guys have that hard
Speaker 2: to heart yeah.
Speaker 1: Where Kelly gives her a pep talk and says she
Speaker 1: needs to break up with Noah if if if she's
Speaker 1: doing drugs when he when she's with him, But it
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with Noah. Kelly, she didn't ever
Speaker 1: do the drugs when she was with Noah because she
Speaker 1: hasn't been with Noah, because Noah's left with val Well
Speaker 1: and they've been broken up.
Speaker 2: It's his brother given supply in her It's really.
Speaker 1: I feel like this is a new writer that we've
Speaker 1: never heard from before she was thrown this script, or
Speaker 1: maybe she came in with the concept and got to
Speaker 1: write it and nobody like fact checked it, nobody.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's better been messy. My whole thing is this,
Speaker 2: Everything about this episode is just like messy, right where
Speaker 2: there's a seed of something that's actually kind of interesting,
Speaker 2: and then it's just like googlegg. That's how it seems
Speaker 2: to me that it like came out because it's like,
Speaker 2: I don't I'm not following what's happening.
Speaker 1: And then she's at the beach house going through withdrawals
Speaker 1: and Noah comes over and tosses her pills down the sinc. Oh,
Speaker 1: thank goodness. She couldn't have done it without him doing that.
Speaker 2: And then I think she actually shouldn't have lost her job.
Speaker 2: That was weird too.
Speaker 1: Well, what if someone came to you and said, I
Speaker 1: know I've been producing this podcast for you, but everything
Speaker 1: i've been doing is someone else's work. Or basically I've
Speaker 1: been only using AI to come up with these interview questions.
Speaker 1: How about that? That's pretty relevant, isn't it? Totally?
Speaker 2: I get it. It's all bad.
Speaker 1: It's just all.
Speaker 2: Bad, and the guy's so calm the boss. He's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: thanks for sharing. You're not gonna be able to work
Speaker 2: here anymore.
Speaker 1: By I don't know. Every time I see that guy
Speaker 1: that was Donna's boss, I think I know he lives
Speaker 1: in the valley, like I.
Speaker 2: Can take he looks like that guy.
Speaker 1: He's married to somebody, has maybe one small kid, yeah,
Speaker 1: and maybe a teenager from his first marriage something.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's just every single thing feels undeveloped.
Speaker 1: Is that the right word? Not developed? Like underdeveloped?
Speaker 2: Under Yeah. It's like we don't really know about the
Speaker 2: we don't really care, we can't really follow what her
Speaker 2: job is. This record label guy came out of nowhere.
Speaker 2: We don't really understand what's happening there.
Speaker 1: But I gotta be honest, I don't want to develop
Speaker 1: it further. I'm pretty okay with it being underdeveloped. Let's
Speaker 1: get past this, Like when's this going to change?
Speaker 2: I feel like what they need to do is just
Speaker 2: like have Bobby Ewing in the shower and be like,
Speaker 2: what what are you talking about? And like Victoria Principal
Speaker 2: just dreamed the whole season.
Speaker 1: Oh god, somebody should have dreamed season eight. I think it's.
Speaker 2: Rough it's just swirly mess. Jessica Alba looks exactly this.
Speaker 1: Okay, this is Interjessica Alba. This is her first episode.
Speaker 1: She is a pregnant teen and she comes in and
Speaker 1: she has barely any baby bump.
Speaker 2: And her mother doesn't know. And then the baby.
Speaker 1: Popped out and the baby came out. We don't even
Speaker 1: know how, right, Like, she leaves, she like birthed in
Speaker 1: the alley or something, and.
Speaker 2: She was pregnant when she came in to see you.
Speaker 2: She leaves and then the baby shows the baby and
Speaker 2: she's like in a hoodie at her mom's house with
Speaker 2: no problems.
Speaker 1: And I mean, that's a pretty big lie. But you
Speaker 1: know that's happened for sure.
Speaker 2: We hear about those stories all the time when the
Speaker 2: high school kid doesn't know and then has a baby
Speaker 2: in the bathroom of the gym.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, but what would you do if a
Speaker 1: baby showed up on the doorstep call on one one
Speaker 1: and it's already nighttime?
Speaker 2: Anyone works at night?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, not Kelly.
Speaker 2: Immediately I'd be like, there's a baby on my front porch. Uh,
Speaker 2: there's a baby, that's what. There's a baby on my
Speaker 2: front porch. I don't even know, because like, how do
Speaker 2: you and you're not a doctor, you don't know that
Speaker 2: the baby's fine. Of course I imediately calling nine to
Speaker 2: one one immediately. You're right, you're right to do. I'll
Speaker 2: just keep it.
Speaker 1: It's totally fine. Yeah, Brandon, pick up a six pack
Speaker 1: of diapers. A that's not gonna be enough. And then
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm applying to take it on. Yeah, why
Speaker 1: she wants to adopt the baby because the baby mommy
Speaker 1: doesn't want it. It doesn't work like that, by the way,
Speaker 1: I'm just like, version, come.
Speaker 2: On, But Jessica album comes back. This is not her
Speaker 2: only episode.
Speaker 1: Right, She's in two episodes, I think, and she is
Speaker 1: like next week, very convincing playing this sixteen year old
Speaker 1: scared girl that does not want.
Speaker 2: To be a mom. She's totally you get why you're like,
Speaker 2: Jessica Alba's no wonder she became a big star.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: It's so funny that just watching her, her daughter looks
Speaker 2: just like her. And I just was watching them on
Speaker 2: TikTok do a dance and they all look exactly like
Speaker 2: they do. Here. The daughter could be in this episode
Speaker 2: and Jessica Alba was still the same.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well this was I mean, I don't get it.
Speaker 1: This was like the controversy that everyone mentions that somebody
Speaker 1: requested that Jessica Alban not look them in the eye
Speaker 1: or something on set, And I'm thinking it wasn't me, Like,
Speaker 1: but it couldn't have been me, because we're in scenes together. Correct,
Speaker 1: You're going to be like a very nice experience.
Speaker 2: Here's what I think is interesting about those kind of rumors.
Speaker 2: How many times have we heard the same rumor that
Speaker 2: such and such celebrities said, don't look me in the eye.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard that about Prince for the first time,
Speaker 1: and I was like, that's.
Speaker 2: A thing that seems so strange that that it's like
Speaker 2: the only green eminem's or whatever, like you know, it happens,
Speaker 2: can't be real.
Speaker 1: Here's what happens. Somebody at the top tells somebody at
Speaker 1: the bottom take care of this person for the day,
Speaker 1: stay on them, keep with them, and like intervene with
Speaker 1: don't let anybody bother them, don't let but like come
Speaker 1: into their eyeline weather they're working whatever. And then the
Speaker 1: PA or whoever it is that's wrangling that person for
Speaker 1: the day, the like you know, sweet pa Is like says, oh,
Speaker 1: don't look them in the eye, right to the person,
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh okay, and then they leave and
Speaker 1: they say say, oh my god, I was told not
Speaker 1: to look Jenny Garth in the eye when I was
Speaker 1: on set.
Speaker 2: Like it's just right. It's like it's like a it's
Speaker 2: a game of telephone.
Speaker 1: Jessica Albut never said that that Tory remember this. I
Speaker 1: don't remember because I don't really care. But Jessica Albut
Speaker 1: said it wasn't a fun experience I think, or something.
Speaker 2: Some Yeah, it was kind of lightweight.
Speaker 1: What she said.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing that I think is that people came
Speaker 2: into a show as a guest star and barely a
Speaker 2: guest star, right, do you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 2: she's a minor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like separate from the group she's not.
Speaker 2: And they don't know anybody. And she's significantly younger now
Speaker 2: than you guys. Do you know what I'm saying? Like
Speaker 2: she's young and you all are now in your twenties.
Speaker 2: People are thirty, I am is probably thirty. So it
Speaker 2: looks seriously, I'm not gonna be it probably was. So
Speaker 2: there is sort of like a thing like I'm trying
Speaker 2: to think of an example, like, say you're a temp
Speaker 2: worker at a you know office, You're not gonna be
Speaker 2: best friends with everybody. They're gonna be like there for
Speaker 2: two days. Correct, So it's like I think that, and
Speaker 2: maybe your impression of them could be like why I
Speaker 2: didn't eat with them at lunch? Well, of course you
Speaker 2: didn't eat with them at lunch, Like what like they
Speaker 2: don't know you yet? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: That always happens, Like I'll tell you this. When when
Speaker 1: you work all day, every day at day after day
Speaker 1: after day, and it's lunchtime, and yeah, people are hanging
Speaker 1: out sitting around eating together. I'm freaking tired. I go
Speaker 1: to my trailer and lay down while it's like lunchtime.
Speaker 1: And then that looks like, oh, Jenny doesn't want to
Speaker 1: eat with anybody or whatever. It looks like I don't know,
Speaker 1: but people make assumptions. That's the problem.
Speaker 2: Like, Okay, so I just think about our office, right,
Speaker 2: there's like two hundred people that work there. I'm not
Speaker 2: lunch with all two hundred people. I sort of have
Speaker 2: lunch with the people I know that are in my
Speaker 2: like littler group. And that doesn't mean I don't love
Speaker 2: everybody at the office. I'm just having lunch with the people.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: It is awkward because, like specifically, when you're on the location,
Speaker 1: they set up the long tables and the chairs and
Speaker 1: you get your catering and you sit down to eat
Speaker 1: your food, and like I said, oftentimes I need a break.
Speaker 1: I need a break from talking. I need just like
Speaker 1: to shut my brain down for a minute and then
Speaker 1: I will let It's awkward to walk by all the
Speaker 1: crew and casts that are hanging out mingling and I'm
Speaker 1: like bee lining for my trailer because I just have
Speaker 1: to like shut her down for a minute. Right. I
Speaker 1: always remember thinking, I hope they don't think I'm a
Speaker 1: bitch I eating with them, but I just I need
Speaker 1: half an hour of me time.
Speaker 2: I get it. And I think that they might think, oh,
Speaker 2: Jenny's not nice because she doesn't want to hang out
Speaker 2: with us. But really, you're like, I just got to
Speaker 2: like reset my nervous system totally.
Speaker 1: I need a moment of silence. Yeah, and I want
Speaker 1: to take off these uncomfortable pants for a minute. Yeah, whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, Like, and I mean.
Speaker 2: I understand how people could misinterpret, right, That's what I'm
Speaker 2: saying too, is like the new person might be like
Speaker 2: the cool kids didn't include me at the lunch, and
Speaker 2: you're just like what, like do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like it could all be misinterpreted. And I also think
Speaker 2: there is such a game of telephone. If one person
Speaker 2: is instructed like one thing, by the time it goes
Speaker 2: through nine people, you know it's the old And then
Speaker 2: she answered a banana like when, really have you never
Speaker 2: played telephone to me? That's just like how it happened,
Speaker 2: like when and then it gets back to you and
Speaker 2: you're like, yeah, I never said that. I have to
Speaker 2: do that all the time.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I absolutely never said that. What But well,
Speaker 1: here's the thing too, in my situation, I can't remember
Speaker 1: if I said it, so like sometimes I'm like, hmm,
Speaker 1: did I say that? I don't know at all.
Speaker 2: I just don't think you told a guest star that
Speaker 2: was a young teenager to not look at you.
Speaker 1: I definitely never did that. That just doesn't sound like
Speaker 1: I don't know who she was referring to. Maybe there
Speaker 1: was some other cast members around or would she I
Speaker 1: have no idea. I have no idea.
Speaker 2: Well, and even this is the thing that I'll say too.
Speaker 2: Even if that PA said, oh, don't look the core
Speaker 2: cast in the eye, that doesn't mean any of you
Speaker 2: actually instructed it.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's weird. You know, Tory would have a
Speaker 1: different take on this. I wish she was here, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, she's not with us today. Ob Yeah,
Speaker 1: she'll be back hopefully soon. But she would probably have
Speaker 1: her perspective of it. But she was, to my knowledge,
Speaker 1: not in any of the scenes with this character Leanne.
Speaker 2: No. And that's what I'm saying, is this Jessica I
Speaker 2: was only in like three scenes that I can remember.
Speaker 2: The scene at the house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, the scene at the clinic yep.
Speaker 2: And is there even one more? There might only be two.
Speaker 1: Oh, there's two in this episode. But then she's in
Speaker 1: another episode, so what happens in that one?
Speaker 2: Also, it's work. That's the other thing too. I think
Speaker 2: that Hollywood gets kind of like bamboozled because you're at work.
Speaker 2: You're at work, you might have to go memorize your lines.
Speaker 2: I don't know whereas like nobody in an office building
Speaker 2: is like you know, Bob, he always just shuts his
Speaker 2: door and you know, reads all his you know documents. Well, yeah,
Speaker 2: because Bob's a lawyer, and Bob has to read the documents.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I get it, and I feel for
Speaker 2: her too, because I'm not saying that her experience wasn't
Speaker 2: what it was.
Speaker 1: To be truthful, you don't know what her experience was,
Speaker 1: because she's never really said anything other than like what
Speaker 1: I can't I'm gonna misquote her, but it wasn't great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lorraine, what's the exact quote?
Speaker 3: On the set of nine o two and No, I
Speaker 3: couldn't even make eye contact with any of the cast members,
Speaker 3: which was really strange. When you're like trying to do
Speaker 3: a scene with.
Speaker 1: Them, you're not.
Speaker 3: It was like, you're not allowed to make eye contact
Speaker 3: with any one of the cast members or you'll be
Speaker 3: thrown off the set. That was the quote on the
Speaker 3: Hot Ones.
Speaker 1: If she looked at or spoke to the stars. But
Speaker 1: this isn't a quote. I don't think this is a
Speaker 1: quote from Jessica.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what she said that on Hot Ones. I
Speaker 2: find that to be the strangest.
Speaker 1: I am the fuddled. First of all, I don't think
Speaker 1: anybody was ever thrown off the set of our show.
Speaker 1: Let'st they were a weird, crazy person and.
Speaker 2: It's the whole cast. So I think it's a tale
Speaker 2: of Look. I believe Jessica Alba was told this, but
Speaker 2: I believe someone told her that totally incorrectly. This is
Speaker 2: my making this up from what.
Speaker 1: I have heard of us from back in the day,
Speaker 1: and most of the people, ninety eight percent of the
Speaker 1: people had a great experience on our show. Every co
Speaker 1: star that came in, every background actor, like we were
Speaker 1: nice people. I mean, I had my moments where I'd
Speaker 1: be whatever, but I have since grown from that and
Speaker 1: acknowledged it and like, I'm sorry about it, But I
Speaker 1: never would have been like, don't look me in the eye.
Speaker 1: That's just I'm not like that.
Speaker 2: But I believe somebody, like you said, somebody said somebody
Speaker 2: to somebody, to somebody to somebody to somebody to somebody.
Speaker 2: And by the time it got to Jessica Alba, who's
Speaker 2: just a you know, day day player basically like two episodes,
Speaker 2: a guest star, guest star. But is she even like
Speaker 2: a guest star. I feel like she's just a yeah,
Speaker 2: she's is that? But not everyone's a guest star?
Speaker 1: Are they?
Speaker 2: Oh? I don't know, See what I'm saying, it's like,
Speaker 2: to me, Jasper is a guest star because he's in
Speaker 2: like many episodes.
Speaker 1: I think she's a guest star because she was in
Speaker 1: two episodes.
Speaker 2: All right, so she's called a guest star. Maybe someone
Speaker 2: mistakingly said something to her, like I'm saying she probably
Speaker 2: was told something strange, but that the person that said
Speaker 2: it was a game of telephone. Right, So by the
Speaker 2: time it gets to the PA that's in charge of
Speaker 2: Jessica Alba, it's completely changed from what actually was said.
Speaker 2: Because look, there may be could have been something like, oh,
Speaker 2: hey they're working, so like don't take photos.
Speaker 1: Like we do that.
Speaker 2: Right, say we're doing a big event and there's a
Speaker 2: big celebrity, we have to tell people like, hey, they're working,
Speaker 2: so don't stop them for photos or whatever. Right, it
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that that person said.
Speaker 1: I'm not taking photos. Is this is weird.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's a game of telephone that by
Speaker 2: the time it got to her, it got misconstrued.
Speaker 1: Well, Jessica, if you're listening or anybody who know is
Speaker 1: listening and telling you this, I love to have you'll
Speaker 1: be on I choose me my podcast and we can
Speaker 1: talk about it because I think it's interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be really interesting.
Speaker 1: It would be Yeah, how these kind of things happen?
Speaker 1: And also who gives a patuity?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure she doesn't now, but at the time
Speaker 2: maybe it was.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it just felt awkward. Or if somebody told
Speaker 1: me not to look a person in the eye, I
Speaker 1: would I would absolutely immediately look them in the eye
Speaker 1: and then be like, oh my god, I did the
Speaker 1: rock I look them in the eye with them.
Speaker 2: Because I think of you went on to a show
Speaker 2: like Friends, right where those people were very close with
Speaker 2: each other and guest stars came in, and what if
Speaker 2: some pa mistakenly says to you, like, do not look
Speaker 2: any of the core six in the eye? You would
Speaker 2: believe it and you'd be like, oh my god, and
Speaker 2: then you'd be scared.
Speaker 1: Be scared. Well, either well no, or we'll never know.
Speaker 1: I'd love to know more. Do you buy that now?
Speaker 1: Donna's addiction is just over.
Speaker 2: No, Well yes is yes and no because I believe it,
Speaker 2: because that's how we do it on this show. It's
Speaker 2: definitely over. But the whole thing is just every storyline
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie is annoying. Every single one. Every
Speaker 2: single one is annoying. They're annoying.
Speaker 1: My favorite part was at the end when Kelly confesses
Speaker 1: to Brandon that she still thinks about the baby they lost,
Speaker 1: and I fully get that.
Speaker 2: Are we sure you were pregnant?
Speaker 1: You were asking me to remember something.
Speaker 2: I remember it as you thought you were pregnant, but
Speaker 2: then you weren't, and then you find out you can't
Speaker 2: have kids. Oh you were, okay, Lorraine has corrected me.
Speaker 2: You definitely were. Then you had a miscarriage, and then
Speaker 2: you find out it's going to be challenging to carry
Speaker 2: a baby.
Speaker 1: I think that's what it was. Yeah, and that sets
Speaker 1: off all kinds of weirdness. Yes, I can imagine being
Speaker 1: in her position. I've been in her position where you know,
Speaker 1: you've had struggles with getting pregnant or losing children, but
Speaker 1: to miscarriage and then you see a baby or you
Speaker 1: get to hold a baby, it just like rips your
Speaker 1: heart out.
Speaker 2: I think that's why, if you've got a baby on
Speaker 2: your porch, you would keep it.
Speaker 1: That's right, damn straight, I'd keep that baby. You know
Speaker 1: my favorite line about a baby from any movie ever,
Speaker 1: it's a bar baby in a bar? What's that from
Speaker 1: Sweet Home, Alabama. I think, oh my gosh, none, which
Speaker 1: one raising Arizona. Oh yeah, She's like, I want that baby.
Speaker 1: I want that baby. It's my favorite part. And now
Speaker 1: anytime my husband and I say it all the time,
Speaker 1: I want that baby. I don't know. I didn't care
Speaker 1: for this episode. You gave it a five. I gave
Speaker 1: it a ten. That's quite a difference. I'm doing the math.
Speaker 1: You gave it half of what I gave it.
Speaker 2: There's absolutely no way you're giving this episode a ten.
Speaker 1: But that's fine. Tell us what's happening in the world
Speaker 1: of podcast amy, give us a down the well.
Speaker 2: It's a very it's a very crowded space. There's just
Speaker 2: a podcast to day coming out, and a lot of
Speaker 2: podcasts are having video now, which we could talk about and.
Speaker 1: I should talk about that, but it just seems like
Speaker 1: there's so.
Speaker 2: Many podcasts, and I think podcasts are going to become
Speaker 2: TV shows. That's my take. That suddenly like there won't
Speaker 2: be as many talk shows on TV because the talk
Speaker 2: shows that you like on podcasts will become you will
Speaker 2: watch them on television.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you're sitting down with a private interview. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: and that's how it always works. And then what will
Speaker 1: happen after it becomes TV. This is the thing I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: This is the thing we need to figure out if
Speaker 2: we want to be super successful and wealthy. If we
Speaker 2: could figure that out and then make it happen, we
Speaker 2: would be so wealthy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to get ahead of it.
Speaker 2: You always have to be ahead of it. And I
Speaker 2: don't know because I'm not like so techy. That's my problem.
Speaker 2: I don't I'm not so techy that I know where
Speaker 2: tech is going.
Speaker 1: You live in San Francisco.
Speaker 2: You should never take surrounded by all these tech people.
Speaker 2: But like I don't know, and like I barely understand AI.
Speaker 2: Do you understand AI?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Great? Do use chap GBT. I don't have one
Speaker 1: on my phone because I don't like that tracking thing,
Speaker 1: but I use it on my computer sometime, and I
Speaker 1: use it to like learn things or you know, like
Speaker 1: plant the right plants for my zone or whatever. Isn't
Speaker 1: that just like googling? It is kind of for me.
Speaker 2: I still like the idea that I write it. When
Speaker 2: your creative comes from me, I don't care for it,
Speaker 2: like yeah, because it always sounds like AI. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: when I see those AI songs on TikTok, even though
Speaker 2: I like the songs the video, immediately are like.
Speaker 1: Hmmm, that's definitely AI. Yeah you can tell like the
Speaker 1: young Yeah, I don't think i'd be able to tell. Honestly,
Speaker 1: Yes you would.
Speaker 2: I saw like things where I'm like that celebrity did
Speaker 2: not say that, and then you're like, yeah.
Speaker 1: That's like fake AI. Would you ever use AI for therapy? No?
Speaker 2: No, but I google. I'll Google and be like here's
Speaker 2: all my symptoms? What is this? And they're like, well,
Speaker 2: so I do that.
Speaker 1: No, but like what if I my best friend does
Speaker 1: it want to be friends with me anymore? Because never
Speaker 1: should I handle this and the best way for both people?
Speaker 2: Never? No, I would never use AI for that. I
Speaker 2: would use a therapist, but I would use a book now.
Speaker 2: I do enjoy a book that gives me answers, or
Speaker 2: I would watch a real video or read a real article.
Speaker 2: But no, I don't want to just like ask a
Speaker 2: computer to tell me.
Speaker 1: What to do. Would you? I think AI has become well,
Speaker 1: there's two sides to it. Of course, there's the good
Speaker 1: side and the bad side. But I think it's all
Speaker 1: the knowledge of any book you've ever read or that's
Speaker 1: been written. It's all the knowledge from all the world,
Speaker 1: from all time ever m hm, that's been programmed into
Speaker 1: these AI platforms. So you're getting like the best of
Speaker 1: the back. And I really learned this when Deepak Choper
Speaker 1: was on my podcast when he was telling us that
Speaker 1: he was starting his own AI platform, and he said,
Speaker 1: you can get my I can be your personal like
Speaker 1: therapist kind of person, and you get everything that I've
Speaker 1: ever written about in any of my nine hundred books.
Speaker 1: He's written so many books. It's all there right there
Speaker 1: at your fingertips, and it's in my voice. So he's
Speaker 1: recorded every word in the language of any of his books,
Speaker 1: and now the computer can make it form senses of fact.
Speaker 2: No, I think I'd rather just ask you, like literally,
Speaker 2: do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: Like I don't.
Speaker 2: I think for me, it's the it's sort of the
Speaker 2: like what do you think?
Speaker 1: What do you feel?
Speaker 2: And I just don't know that AI can feel it
Speaker 2: the way you could feel it what I'm saying, and
Speaker 2: I could be right. I mean, that's where I'm at.
Speaker 2: I'd rather get like shitty advice from you.
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm here for you.
Speaker 2: I'd rather if you go. I'm not sure. One time
Speaker 2: I think maybe I had a similar thing happened. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure, but I think and this is what I
Speaker 2: think I did well.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's it's useful for business
Speaker 1: models and people entrepreneurs starting out who need creative assistance,
Speaker 1: or like.
Speaker 2: Jenny, I missed the old days. I missed the nine
Speaker 2: two one oh days when I had a cassette player
Speaker 2: in my car and I had to rewind it. I
Speaker 2: missed the old days. I miss when I could go
Speaker 2: into the bank.
Speaker 1: Wait, do you still say, like when you're watching something
Speaker 1: and you want to go back and rewatch a part,
Speaker 1: you say, rewind it? Can you just rewind that part?
Speaker 1: And I also say, did you videotape it? Me too,
Speaker 1: Let me get a video of you're saying that. But
Speaker 1: that's that's okay, still a video, but a video tape.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of other weird, old timey things
Speaker 2: I say like that, which is like weird that we're
Speaker 2: the old timers, But like I do have a few
Speaker 2: things like that where the word is totally antiquated.
Speaker 1: I mean, I love old timer lingo. Tory would tell
Speaker 1: you like I can pull up some of the funniest
Speaker 1: like eighty year old woman slogan sayings.
Speaker 2: I want a lollygag all day long too, jomny, I
Speaker 2: want to sit around and lollygag.
Speaker 1: I know, lollygag.
Speaker 2: And it's gonna be a real hairdoo if that happens.
Speaker 1: See you got it, you know totally.
Speaker 2: I'm like, ah, we're gonna get into real hairdoo if
Speaker 2: that's what.
Speaker 1: We're dealing with. Oh, I want that, grandma.
Speaker 2: Yeah, old timey stuff is the best I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Gosh, gosh, I love being old. Look at your cheeks.
Speaker 2: Are all I know. I'm so very hot right now.
Speaker 2: I think it's because I'm in the garage and the
Speaker 2: fires going.
Speaker 1: Fireplaces on. It's putting off a lot of heat. You guys.
Speaker 1: She has the fire on her TV behind her.
Speaker 2: And I typed in yule log even though it's June
Speaker 2: and you can still get a us okay, just and
Speaker 2: it does look like I have a Christmas tree over there.
Speaker 1: It really does, but I don't.
Speaker 2: But anyway, wait, Jenny going on vacation, so I won't
Speaker 2: see you for a full week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's a work trip. It's not a vacation.
Speaker 2: But oh I thought it was for fun.
Speaker 1: No, two days of it is fun. Where are you going?
Speaker 1: I'm going to Paris for doing the show A thing
Speaker 1: for No, not a thing for cosmetics. I knew what
Speaker 1: you were doing, that's right. I was just about to
Speaker 1: say yes. I'm so excited about that. I love that partnership,
Speaker 1: and Lolla and I are going a couple of days
Speaker 1: early to do some brand shopping and inspo searching.
Speaker 2: Oh that's cool for your line. Yeah, wait, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: So wait, you'll go and see what's in Paris and
Speaker 2: then you'll make it for me by Jenny Garth.
Speaker 1: Well you'll you'll get inspiration, yeah, and you'll get ideas
Speaker 1: about what colorways or patterns are going to be because
Speaker 1: everything starts in Europe, on the runways in Europe, and
Speaker 1: then it trickles over to America.
Speaker 2: Can we bring back low low rise?
Speaker 1: I don't know. No, I don't I please. I can't
Speaker 1: do high rise. I know I can't do it. You seriously,
Speaker 1: you're telling me you still wear low rise jeans.
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, and I'm not like wearing them like
Speaker 2: where everyone sees. But I can't do anything pressing up here.
Speaker 2: I can't I can't stand that like low rise and
Speaker 2: elastic waste.
Speaker 1: But you I've if everything I'm making now is got
Speaker 1: some sort of stretch or elastic, you know, because once
Speaker 1: you go there, you don't want to go back correct.
Speaker 2: And what's so crazy is like parts of me are fine,
Speaker 2: but then parts of me are weird, and so the
Speaker 2: stretch makes it so just all works.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying? It all it pulls
Speaker 1: it all together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like put put it, put likra in there.
Speaker 1: These pants got a lot of the last.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's exactly good.
Speaker 1: I like what you're wearing. Are you gonna wear that
Speaker 1: on QVC? Yes? This is a new idem we're selling
Speaker 1: it today, a brand new set.
Speaker 2: I mean we might as well say it. How do
Speaker 2: you How do you find your stuff on QVC? Can
Speaker 2: you go on qvc dot com and type in me.
Speaker 1: If you go to qvc dot com you type in
Speaker 1: the search bar me or me by Jenny Garth or
Speaker 1: Jenny Garth, it'll come up. It'll come up, and you
Speaker 1: can go to our socials too, which we have so
Speaker 1: much fun doing creatively with my god.
Speaker 2: I have a request before we go I have a
Speaker 2: request before we go. You want us to make something
Speaker 2: more homes goods again. I just want home stuff again.
Speaker 2: Can you do stuff coming out?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, great because I really called me home?
Speaker 2: Is it really yeah? Oh my god, that's amazing. Even
Speaker 2: that's what I want really bad, that's what I really
Speaker 2: really want.
Speaker 1: I will buy your home stuff was so good before
Speaker 1: I knew that, I really that stuff was great.
Speaker 2: It was so good that bar Kard, the acrylic bar cart.
Speaker 2: If you if you watch enough podcast, you're gonna see
Speaker 2: that acrylic bar.
Speaker 1: I've seen it. Have you seen our stuff on every
Speaker 1: uh ihearts I walk on, I'm like, oh, there's our
Speaker 1: pillow or.
Speaker 2: We are not afraid to reuse because we had to
Speaker 2: buy stuff once you supported us, Yes, and then we
Speaker 2: just reuse it, reuse it, rease it. Everybody can go
Speaker 2: and see if you can find Jenny's barkart in multiple shows.
Speaker 1: If you're seeing that, which is something we got to
Speaker 1: work off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll talk about that. But just so people know,
Speaker 2: the Jonas brothers are using the BFF parkart. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: so it's getting a lot of use.
Speaker 1: Okay, have a great week, everybody with a view