WEBVTT - Ep. 245: Render - All About "Granny" 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:16.200 My name is Clay Nukeleman. 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:19.400 This is a production of the Bear Grease podcast called 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:23.759 The Bear Grease Render, where we render down, dive deeper, 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:28.240 and look behind the scenes of the actual bear Grease podcast, 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:33.920 presented by f h F Gear, American made purpose built 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:37.599 hunting and fishing gear that's designed to be as rugged 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:39.320 as the place as we explore. 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:46.400 Brice Brince knows as he's got an oversized noteized I 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:47.680 stuff tomorrow. 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:54.640 Man, Hey, I've been looking forward to this particular render 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:59.120 for a while. I really have, because as Misty Misty 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:03.360 will tell you, I like beg people to tell me, 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:06.399 you know, just to like talk to me about the podcast, 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:08.360 and uh, and she gets. 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:08.800 Tired of it. 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:12.039 Josh has to talk to me about the podcast because 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:15.440 it's his job. So I call him between the hours 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:17.240 of eight and five and can talk to him. 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:20.839 But if it's like, if it's later, he's like, well, Clay, 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:23.600 maybe I'll talk to you tomorrow about it. So I'm 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:26.720 glad you're all here so we can talk about this. 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:27.119 Uh. 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:31.959 This episode with with Granny Henderson, we have some very 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:39.679 distinguished guests. We have aligned everybody Todays, so it's the exploiters. 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:43.000 Versus the preservationists. Hey, we're on the outsiders. 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:45.400 Wait wait a minute, now, I don't know if y'all 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:48.440 in this context for the outsiders or not, but uh, 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:51.559 and the locals. But no, that kind of just happened 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:55.120 on its own. We have Lake Pickle from all the 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:58.080 way from the great state of Mississippi. You are our 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:04.080 UnBias like outsider. Officially he's the outsider. 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:07.240 Yeah, I'm ten out of ten and outsider in this situation. 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:09.359 You never heard this story before. 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:11.919 No, I I yeah, I went into it completely because yeah, 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:13.200 I had nothing to base it off of. 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:17.360 So yeah, yeah, yeah, Well I want to hear your thoughts. 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:21.040 And then we have Kyle Plunkett. So good to have 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:22.800 you from the Those Are podcast. 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:24.680 I'm moderately biased. 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:25.720 Moderately biased. 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:27.160 Yeah, well it's fair. 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:30.720 And I wanted to invite you because I first heard Misty, 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:34.800 who I'm about to introduce on your podcast. And uh 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:38.360 and and so anyway, you guys had done some stuff 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:42.480 on the redesignation of the river and so good to 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:43.160 have you, man. 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:43.760 I appreciate it. 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:46.000 And now you're tell us about your podcast. 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:46.960 What do you want to know? 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:47.280 Plug? 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:50.280 Little plug? Just yeah, well a couple. 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:53.520 Of years ago, we were Kyle Vett and I were 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:56.040 really getting into bow hunting and bear hunting and fishing, 0:02:56.400 --> 0:03:00.320 and realized that all of the media and all the tacks, 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:03.000 we're not for here, and so that kind of kicked 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:06.000 us into this whole world of trying to figure out 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:07.880 how to kill big deer and how to kill big bear, 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:09.799 and how to catch big fish in the Ozarks. And 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:11.960 one thing led to another, and we started uncovering the 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:14.840 history and the people and the conservation and the stories 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:18.080 and realized the Ozarks are way more than just a 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:21.400 pretty place to recreate in. It's a really really amazing 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:24.200 place to live and a really really amazing place to 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:26.760 come from. So we're both I think we're six and 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:30.480 seventh generation Ozarkers, so like years and years of family 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:32.400 heritage in this area, all that kind of stuff. And 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:34.960 so we interview guests who talk about the Ozarks pretty 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:37.400 much anything we find interesting, we go find somebody talk 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:38.880 to in that interview. 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:40.880 So, well, you guys are doing a good job. I 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:43.240 appreciate it, but we don't want anybody to move here. 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:46.720 So stay where you're at. This is a terrible place. 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:49.160 Good to have you. 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:53.640 Kyle thanks, Misty Langdon, you're really the guest of honor, Missy. 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:56.280 Well true true story, true story. 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:57.640 Careful you let it go to my head. 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:01.480 No, So, Misty was on on the was on the 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:06.880 on the feature guests on. Josh is really jealous of 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:10.920 people that are feature guests on because he never has been. 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:12.000 Still. 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:17.600 Has pustache, has a T shirt. 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:19.680 But to be able to be a feature, to be 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:23.599 a feature guest means that you like have like, you know, 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:28.479 a fairly substantial contribution to the to the to an episode. 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:30.839 Clay hasn't figured out what I can contribute. 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:35.720 But but Misty was. So you were on both of them. 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:37.840 You were on both episodes. And and I told this 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:41.320 to Misty beforehand. I was I want to hear any 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:44.080 place I got it wrong, any place. 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:46.560 That uh, there's any you know you brought the story. 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:52.880 The story needs some fixing. Yea, she has, Uh, she has, 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:55.720 she has a few things, I'm sure, but uh. And 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.800 and my wife, Misty will tell you that you were 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:01.400 the person I was most I was most like man. 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.520 I hope, I hope Misty is okay with this. It's true, 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:06.400 it's true. 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:08.040 Maybe maybe you think I'm the meanest. 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:12.120 No, I just, I just you're not too afraid. 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:13.760 Maybe maybe that's it. 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:15.279 He's scared of girl's name, Missy. 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:18.719 There's a lot of misty power. There's a lot of 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:19.320 Misty power. 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:20.960 There's so many of us. 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:24.839 No but but Misty's from Newton County and uh and 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:27.159 so she has a lot of real personal connections to 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:29.760 this story, big time personal connections. 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.320 And so it's it's great to have you, Thank. 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:33.640 Yous for coming, thanks for having me. 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:35.640 And then I have all these folks, I have my 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:38.560 lovely wife, doctor mister new great to have you, thank 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:42.240 you here, Josh Lambridge, Spillmak Brent Reeves. 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:46.200 Man, I just want to say that that this render 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:48.200 better be good because it's gonna be hard to live 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:49.200 up to the last one. 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:51.919 Yeah, you guys did a great job. 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:53.640 Yeah we did. 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:58.280 We did, of course did a great job without Yep. 0:05:58.279 --> 0:05:59.479 We should make a habit of that. 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:04.400 I would love to not be here sometimes we would. 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:08.800 Okay, everybody in we're in. 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:15.479 Uh uh So you left off one guest, Oh Tim. 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:17.880 I'm not sure if on the video he can't figure 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:20.520 out whether or not see Tim, Tim the squirrel dog. 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:21.360 Uh. 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:22.880 Let me tell you a quick story about Tim the 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:27.200 squirrel dog. Since we're all here, this dog was bought 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:31.200 at the same time as another squirrel dog of similar 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:36.000 similar lineage. You'll like this, like because your dog man, Brent, 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:40.960 your dog man, uh, and the other dog was way better, 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:44.520 like way more natural ability, to the point that we 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:46.320 had to keep her up, you know, kind of had 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:48.440 to pend her up because she would she would run 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:51.440 off and hunt and she would be gone. This lazy 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:56.200 dog stayed, stayed around the house and like worked its 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:58.599 way into becoming like the favorite dog in our family. 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:02.680 Well it's waiting to becoming an actual member of the family, yep. 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:07.839 But because of this dog's the dog never goes in 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:13.000 the pen, because of its exposure to squirrels around here, 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:17.600 this dog is in a really good squirrel dog, tim 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:22.000 you see, almost as good as like the Michael Jordan dog. 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:24.800 And that's an exaggeration, but for me, the Michael Jordan 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:25.360 dog I had. 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:27.040 So the take home. 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:31.400 Is is that exposure and practice, Like that dog knows 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:34.320 what a squirrel's thinking right now, Like he knows that 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:36.240 that squirrel that lives over there will be down at 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:39.680 four point thirty to eat you know, horse apples out 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:40.040 of that bow. 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:40.840 Dark over there. 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:44.960 Tess is like Michael Jordan, tons of ability, great nose, 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:51.480 great instinct, great tree power, great drive. So exposure can 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:56.680 almost with just like natural talent. And that's where Brent 0:07:56.760 --> 0:08:00.400 comes in, because Brent has no natural talent. 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:02.920 Just a. 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:06.640 Yeah, but I beat all those charges. 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:12.720 The moral of the story, anybody can succeed. That's right, Abody, Yeah, 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:13.280 that's right. 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:13.560 That's right. 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:13.680 Now. 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:15.120 I had to give Tim a plug. 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:19.760 There lebron So you've got Michael Jordan's and. 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:23.880 Lebrony just there you go, there you go. So Phelps 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:25.800 is coming out with a new deer call. 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:30.040 That's a great segue. Yeah, yep, left turn. 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:34.000 Talking about Michael Jordan. Yeah, this is uh so last 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:38.280 year we came out with the Akron grunner spelled the 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:42.600 correct way a k e r n akron grunner. And 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:44.600 uh it's the it's the first call in the market. 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:49.360 That's the inhale exhale bleat and grunt call or grunt call. 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:52.000 I love a bleat call, like the like the old 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:55.800 primost can. I mean he's called in so many deer. 0:08:56.920 --> 0:08:58.960 A lot of guys just carry a grunt call. This 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:04.480 has an inhale ex hell. You can adjust the reads. 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:07.840 You flip it and the call is opposite. 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:08.880 Like there's one. 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:10.800 Way where when you blow and it's a grunt and 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.120 you suck and it's a it's a fawn bleat or 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:16.240 dope blea. You flip it and you blow and it's 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:18.080 a bleat and you suck and it's a grunt call. 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:23.280 The tones are slightly different, but I constantly am using 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:25.720 a bleak call and don't want to carry two calls. 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:28.120 And so anyway, this is the acren Pro. 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:31.120 And it's the it's h it's from Phelps and it's 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:34.880 an acrylic call and you can you know, like totally adjustable. 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:37.680 So anyway, these are coming out like real soon, the 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:40.120 acren Pro, the acorn Pro. 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:44.760 Fancy you want some free marketing on that one, Clay, Yeah, 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:48.440 I have to give it to you. No, No, I 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:52.040 used your your wooden acron Oh yeah, but the one. Yeah, 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:53.440 I was one of the guys that you got on 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:55.240 the it's limited, you got to get it quick, and 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:57.600 I was like that, I'm buying it. It's happening, yeah, 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:00.480 And I used it to call up that big ozark 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:04.200 buck I killed. I heard him down on the on 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:06.320 the ledge and was bleating at him. I mean it 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:08.600 was like peak right was starting. He was he sounded 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:10.800 like a train coming through the woods, and he turned 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:11.160 and came. 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:11.679 Right up the hill. 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:12.880 Really, you bleeded at him? 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:13.160 I did? 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:16.960 You didn't ground at him. See, I think that that they. 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:18.560 Didn't know which end of the call he had. 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:18.960 So I. 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:21.800 Was just breathing through it. 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:22.679 What was going to happen? 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:23.760 What happens? 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:27.800 We got to bleed? He turned and came right up 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:31.320 I mean his opening rifle, dad, I mean perfect. Oh yeah, 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:32.920 that's a good plug. I saw that it was. 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:34.480 How big was that deer? 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:37.880 Thirteen points one hundred and sixty three inches. That's a 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:39.000 big Deer's the biggest deer. 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:40.920 I remember that one from Instagram. 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:43.000 Yeah, it kind of made its round. This is like, 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:44.040 this is this is weird. 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:46.440 I never posted something on social media and everybody's clapping, like, 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:47.719 you did a good job killing that thing. 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:49.160 Appreciate it. 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:53.680 Yeah, Oh, that's very fun funny story about akorn. Just 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:56.080 to you know, since I saw it spelled out there 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:59.560 this I guess in the last two weeks, wordle the 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.720 New York Times game had the word of the day, 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:05.040 Like the first word was akron or I don't. 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:05.800 I don't play the game. 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:11.719 Oh, akron was the word and everybody a k a O. 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:15.439 But Clay's niece couldn't get it even though she knew what. 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:17.680 The word was. 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:21.400 And everybody and we got so many messages that day 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:25.200 like your favorite word and everybody else. Uh, there's a 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:28.600 family thread where Clay's ants and his mom they all 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:30.800 play they all play it together and they were like, 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:33.960 it's Clay's favorite word, and everybody was like akron and 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:34.920 his niece couldn't get. 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:35.560 It right, because. 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:40.200 We're educating the whole generation. 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:43.160 Great one direct sounds like it one direction? 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:49.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, man, I think enough with 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:53.080 all the maloney. 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:55.199 We need to we need to talk about this episode. 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:59.800 This Uh, this episode to me is like if at 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:02.360 this point and I get excited about every episode, like 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:05.480 anyone that I'm doing is something that I'm like really 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:08.600 interested in, and so in a given time. 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:11.000 Period, you would be like, hey, Clave, what are you 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:11.559 thinking about? 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:14.440 And I'll be like, man, we just I'm doing the 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:16.920 most interesting research I've ever done in my life, and 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.200 I'll talk about the episode that I'm working on. 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:22.040 But this one is different. This one. 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:25.960 I told Misty just a little bit ago that in 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:31.720 the original Bear Grease list of potential episodes that I 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:33.719 did before the podcast ever started, that was one of 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:34.800 the exercises that we did. 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:36.600 It's like, okay, you're going to start a podcast. Okay, 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:41.080 mock out episodes, and all it was was a title. 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:43.840 But I wanted to do an episode on Granny Henderson. 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:45.680 And that was four years ago, and I really didn't 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:48.120 know much about her at that time. I just knew 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:50.960 what probably a lot of our Kansons know is just 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:53.679 that you know, she lived on the Buffalo, she she 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:56.640 had to leave. You know, I didn't know much, but 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:59.880 I knew that that was a good story. And then 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:03.440 the way that this all came about, and I just 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:05.880 told I told Misty this just a little bit ago 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:11.079 was I hadn't quite figured out the angle on it, 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:14.760 and it wasn't even on my mind actually, But I 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:18.640 was riding mules with Justin House, a friend of mine, 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:22.360 friend of Misty's, over on the Buffalo River and just 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:25.000 me and him were riding that day and for eight 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:29.240 miles down the river. He was telling me stories of 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:32.280 all the different home places and he knows it exceptionally well. 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:34.840 Justin's a pretty young guy. I think he's like twenty 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:39.440 six or something. And man, he knew just like every story, 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:44.600 every home place, every every little detail of who owned 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:47.280 the land that is now the Buffalo National River. So 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:51.240 we're riding through, you know, just big woods, and it's like, well, 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:53.400 there's a home place there, and he'd take me up 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:55.600 and show me a barn or a footing of a 0:13:55.640 --> 0:14:00.000 house or this, or a smokehouse or And I came 0:13:59.880 --> 0:14:01.800 home that night and I told my daughter. 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:04.280 River, who's on the last episode. I said, Man, da 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:05.040 da da da da dada. 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:06.600 I started telling about the river, and she said, you 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:10.920 need to make a podcast about that, and I immediately did. 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:11.760 Started. 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:16.440 Some of these episodes were doing like the preparation really 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:20.480 is is a year in the making, honestly, like and 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:23.320 not that I researched something for a year, but. 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:27.440 The next episode, that's serious, that's going to come out. 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:30.520 I read the first book about that over a year 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:34.680 ago and it just kind of stews. This one like came. 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:36.960 Up quick, but it had been brewing for a long 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:43.400 time and uh. And I was able to get in 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:47.360 contact with the right people, one of which was Misty, 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:49.920 and then Misty helped me get in touch with Jane Kilgore, 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:57.040 who is Grant Henderson's granddaughter, and then uh, just just 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:59.720 all the pieces fell in And I say all that 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:03.920 to say, this episode to me is kind of like core. 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:08.120 I feel like I love some of these that I 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:11.360 don't know, they just they there's there's. I've been trying 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:13.600 to figure out what it is I really like about 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:17.200 certain stories, but this one's close to the top of 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:18.520 the list, I think. 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:19.280 Ye. 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:24.400 But what's a what's a good way to to start 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:25.040 talking about this? 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:30.480 Misty, doctor misty? 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:33.560 Okay, thanks for the help. 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:36.960 I remember that. I remember that National Geographic. 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:38.120 Yeah, do you really? 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:42.840 My grandfather had all my life he had a subscription 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:46.000 the National Geographic that was given to him for Christmas 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:50.280 every year by my uncle, his his son, and I'm 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:52.880 I'd love to get and my grandfather would. 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:53.760 He was. 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:58.920 Not highly educated formerly, but very well educated, very well 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:01.800 read man, very smart man, and he would read a 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:04.760 National Geographic from cover to cover. Anything that he could 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:07.440 pick up and read, if it was a popular mechanics 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:12.200 or the instructions on how to build something, he read everything. 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:15.560 And I tried to emulate that and read that, and 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:20.280 I can remember that in US talking that National Geographic 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:22.800 and another one that highlighted some stuff from where we 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:25.960 were from in Bradley County. I remember talking to him 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:29.040 about those, but that was one of them that I remember. 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:32.080 I don't remember. I didn't remember Granny Henderson's name. I 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:35.120 remember that from later on in life learning about it. 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:39.360 But in seventy seven I would have been eleven years 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:41.400 old and I remember that story. 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:45.160 Amazing photographs. Yeah, I think they did a great job 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:50.240 kind of capturing who she was and her lifestyle just 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:52.280 by that handful of photographs. 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:56.040 Yeah, that portraits the little famous one, isn't it. 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:57.000 Yeah, it's a good one. 0:16:57.440 --> 0:17:01.400 Now, Misty, have you seen the other There's other photos 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:05.640 I think from this photo shoot that weren't in this magazine. 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.480 I've seen a few that I think Jane had let 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:11.600 me look at, probably when I was a kid at church, 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:14.679 that she she'd let me see a few. I have 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:17.280 a few that she let me copy, and some of 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:19.760 them have the National Geographic stamp on the back. And 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:24.000 then there's some others. Blair Deetering did a book called 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:29.520 Down the Compton Road, and it highlighted her. It highlighted 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:32.480 ev and all of her neighbors, it's a really good 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:35.959 Did I give you that one clay House? I think so. 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:37.879 I think it's there on the bottom, and that's a 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:40.719 black and white copy, but it's got all of her 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:45.040 neighbors in it, and it's a really good. Yeah, Gertie 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:47.479 stud of then you just passed her. That was EV's 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:50.639 best friend. And there are a couple of oral history 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:53.280 recordings that have the two of them together. 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:58.040 Oh really those are camo. 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:01.840 Ca Yeah, little Jones, what do you call them? 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:02.080 You know? 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:06.560 Side note, My Grandpa Boyd, he always wore camouflage. I 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:09.800 mean it was constant. That's all he ever wore. That 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:11.679 was his uniform unless he went to church and then 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:13.920 it was britches and a and a button up shirt. 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:17.240 But I still have some of his coveralls that are 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:20.960 the old pattern, the old cameo before they started getting 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:22.000 the crew. 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:22.720 Back in the day. 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:26.440 That was pretty progressive though that camo probably first came 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:29.439 out in the sixties and seventies. So Granny there'd be 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:31.800 like Granny wearing like bottom land. 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:36.560 First, like cash, she's got converses on it, I mean, yeah, 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:37.480 also pretty good. 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:40.240 I guarantee if somebody gave her that hat, and I'd 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:41.520 love to know who gave it to her. 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:44.119 I asked Jane if she still had that, and she 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:44.960 said they didn't. 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:50.560 Austin Williams is a great grandson of Ev and he 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:53.760 called me after the first episode landed and he said 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:56.560 that when he was a little boy and he would 0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:59.520 take her shirt that's in one of the pictures that 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:02.679 they have to kindergarten to show and tail, and he 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:05.240 showed all the kids at school, so anytime they would 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:07.159 have a show and tail that he would bring something 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:09.200 of his grandma's. I thought that was really. 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:20.560 A sweet Josh, we're gonna play some trivia. 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:25.040 Yeah, okay, we kind of we kind of have a ring. 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:27.800 Yeah, here's the questions you want to do him? 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:30.000 Yeah, I'll do them. I'll do them. 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:31.480 You already know the answers. 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:32.800 Okay. 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:38.480 The way this is gonna work is, uh, how about 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:40.280 we just do the first person to. 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:45.200 We kind of have a kind of have a ringer. 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:46.480 I love trivia. 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:48.120 Single the two of us out though. 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:53.600 I think I think is fair game because because it's now, 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:54.359 you didn't put. 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:57.800 The answers on here, Josh, you knew the answers. I've 0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:06.400 already forgot that. 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:04.120 That would be part of the game is Clay has 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:06.320 to answer it to Oh, well. 0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:12.800 It's easy for you and I have to talk about 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:13.320 this layer. 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:16.840 Okay, all right, So the first person that blurted out 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:22.840