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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the forty Niners You've Got Mail Podcasts

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Speaker 1: presented by Manscape. I am glad to be joined by

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Speaker 1: I like to call her one of my very good friends.

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Speaker 1: I actually talked about her on a podcast earlier this week,

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Speaker 1: talking about my history with the forty Niners and one

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Speaker 1: of the first faces for myself to need and really

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Speaker 1: grow close to, uh covering this team. Jennifer lee Chan

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Speaker 1: from NBC Sports Bay Area. Jennifer, how are you doing

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Speaker 1: in this like weird time that we're in waiting to

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Speaker 1: hear some news but not quite yet. How is this

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Speaker 1: time of year going for you? It really is kind

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Speaker 1: of like a time of limbo, Like this season hasn't

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Speaker 1: really ended, but it end a long time ago, but

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Speaker 1: yet the new season hasn't started yet, so we're all

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Speaker 1: just kind of hanging out waiting for it all to

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Speaker 1: get rolling. We're waiting, but we're coming up close, which

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Speaker 1: is the perfect time and why I believe you are

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Speaker 1: one of the perfect pople to have on this specific

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Speaker 1: podcast because we're entering into the time of free agency

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Speaker 1: and you and I were talking, I feel like you

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Speaker 1: are very burst in this year's free agency. For a

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Speaker 1: number of reasons, Karen, explain what you're working on. I

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Speaker 1: just finished writing about twenty five free agents that would

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Speaker 1: fit with the ns ranging from steals the splurges. Out

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Speaker 1: of eight hundred guys, my task was to pick twenty five.

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Speaker 1: It was quite an ordeal. Okay, So this is perfect

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Speaker 1: because I'm gonna need a little bit of your knowledge

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Speaker 1: and your wisdom on some of these free agents that

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Speaker 1: could be potential fits with the forty Niners and how

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Speaker 1: they might fit with what this team is trying to

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Speaker 1: do moving forward and some of those changes that are

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Speaker 1: coming up. But before we get into that, it's so crazy.

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Speaker 1: We're only in the month of March. Um. Usually you

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Speaker 1: and I were in the combine. We're at the combine

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Speaker 1: back in February. We're probably just now getting back now

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Speaker 1: starting to prep for free agency. Instead, there wasn't one

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Speaker 1: this year, which was extremely unfortunate. But now as we're

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Speaker 1: sitting back and we're kind of watching things unfold, you

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Speaker 1: see certain signings happening, You're seeing certain trades happen. How

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Speaker 1: would you describe this NFL offseason so far? I guess

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Speaker 1: it's kind of similar to what last season was, other

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Speaker 1: than the fact that you know, we did get to

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Speaker 1: But it'll be interesting with you know, pro Days being virtual,

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Speaker 1: We've got a list to follow each day as another school,

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Speaker 1: so it's a lot to manage. It's you know, I've

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Speaker 1: got to write everything down. I've got a whole list

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Speaker 1: have to cross reference where I'm supposed to be and

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Speaker 1: what I'm supposed to be listening to. It's it's much

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Speaker 1: more challenging a test and having all those guys at

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Speaker 1: one big event like the combine. And I think what's

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Speaker 1: more challenging for the teams is that all those medicals

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Speaker 1: medicals of the combin and everybody goes to the same

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Speaker 1: all that information now from different pro days and different

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Speaker 1: going to be interesting for teams to try and get

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Speaker 1: all that information and get accurate information on guys that

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Speaker 1: are coming out in the draft. Well, in this podcast,

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Speaker 1: obviously we have to talk about free agency, and before

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Speaker 1: own locker room, I want to talk about a free

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Speaker 1: agent that actually recently hit the market, and that's a

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Speaker 1: former forty Niners wide receiver, Emmanuel Sanders was released by

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Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints. Was just what the forty Niners

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Speaker 1: presence in that personality. What did he bring from what

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Speaker 1: you saw to this locker room? And when I asked this,

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Speaker 1: what did you see that Sanders brought to this team?

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Speaker 1: His effect on the locker room was immediate. You know,

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Speaker 1: know Kyle Shanahan was really disappointed to let go back

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Speaker 1: maybe he would be an affordable option. I'm sure Shannahan

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Speaker 1: know he's a big fan of Emmanuel Sanders. Yeah, Kyle Shannon,

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Speaker 1: it was obvious He talked about that when he did

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Speaker 1: forty Niners based the Saints last year, talking about uh,

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Speaker 1: kind of reflecting on what Sanders brought to the locker

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Speaker 1: that's the guy that you know is on the market.

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Speaker 1: Could he be an option for the forty Niners. Yet

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Speaker 1: to tell. But as we're talking about free agency, I

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Speaker 1: forty Niners, a whopping thirty eight players when going into

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Speaker 1: this offseason hitting the open market having expiring contracts, forty

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Speaker 1: But looking at this long list of free agents that

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Speaker 1: You know. Daniel Jeremiah talked about it this week, saying

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Speaker 1: There's really no one. I mean, there's two guys that

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Speaker 1: they're a year out of football. Trent Williams brings athleticism,

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Speaker 1: that really sets Kyle Shanahan's offense open and really enables

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Speaker 1: is a tough division just because of all the different

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Speaker 1: players that have come to the NFC West recently, and

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Speaker 1: they've got to have that consistency and I think those

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Speaker 1: two players are huge keys in Kyle Shanahan's offense. That's

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Speaker 1: that's what Kyle Shanahan likes to do. It's a run

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Speaker 1: the success doing that. But what about on defense? Anybody

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Speaker 1: standouts on defense? I think that Jason Barette and Kawan

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Speaker 1: Williams are the two guys that the foreigners want to

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Speaker 1: hold onto. But you know, you look at at Robert

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Speaker 1: Sala going to the Jets. Kawan Williams is a New

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if the foreigners are going to have

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Speaker 1: enough money to pay both of them, but if they

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Speaker 1: could keep one of them, I think that would be good.

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Speaker 1: Good thing is that in this year's draft class there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of good corners, especially in the first and

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Speaker 1: second round. I know you asked Daniel Jeremiah about the

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Speaker 1: two guys and that he likes the best, and you know,

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Speaker 1: they can get one of those guys with their top

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Speaker 1: two picks. But if they could keep one of them,

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Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a lot of new faces

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Speaker 1: on the forty Niners secondary, and keeping at least one

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Speaker 1: of those guys would be very key to you know,

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Speaker 1: continuity and leadership in that secondary, which I think is important.

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Speaker 1: I want to go back to one of the first

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Speaker 1: are pretty essential for this team to return. There's been

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Speaker 1: news around Jason Varrette over the weekend and his free

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Speaker 1: agency decisions, and forty Niners took last year another chance

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Speaker 1: on him, resigning him to a one year deal. He

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Speaker 1: after dealing with so many injuries throughout his career. We

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Speaker 1: know that cornerback is an immediate need for the forty

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Speaker 1: Kello Witherspoon, Emanuel Sanders. You have Richard Sherman question coming

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Speaker 1: from MO wants to know what type of contract do

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Speaker 1: you think that Verrette will get with his injury history

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Speaker 1: and is a return to the forty Niners a likely situation.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it's likely. As long as they offer

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Speaker 1: be willing to stay. I mean, I think he's He's

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Speaker 1: tweeted a few kind of I don't know, maybe cryptic

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Speaker 1: and the fact that the foreigners are part of it

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Speaker 1: there's always I think a little bit of loyalty there

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Speaker 1: for a guy who to his team, who took a

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Speaker 1: and you know, really got a lot out of him

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Speaker 1: in his second contract, which was just really about a

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Speaker 1: million dollars for one year, which is really a steel

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Speaker 1: for a guy who you know, was the first round pick.

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Speaker 1: I think there's that. But if he can get more

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Speaker 1: is you know, looking at a possible run in the postseason,

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Speaker 1: I don't see why he wouldn't take that chance. But

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Speaker 1: He's liked locker room. But you know, there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: quite a few different faces this year, so it depends

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Speaker 1: It's it's interesting now, it's not something that used to

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Speaker 1: with each other. It's it's you know, it happens in

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Speaker 1: the NBA, it's now happening in the NFL. It's it's

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Speaker 1: kind of a different kind of environment, and you know,

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Speaker 1: so you never know what's going to happen. But I

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Speaker 1: tweets weren't anything against or having It wasn't anything that

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Speaker 1: had to do with communication with the team. Um, everything

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Speaker 1: is proceeding as normal and they you know, there's talks

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Speaker 1: being on this roster with everything that you've heard and

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Speaker 1: that that you've seen, what do you make of all

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Speaker 1: of this Jimmy gar Popolo news and how do you

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Speaker 1: believe the front office feels about that quarterback. You'll look

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Speaker 1: at what the foreigners have available to them money wise,

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Speaker 1: and the draft picks they have, and really the logical

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Speaker 1: thing is that Jimmy Garoppolois the starting quarterback. They don't

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Speaker 1: have a lot of money to spend. They really have

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Speaker 1: other needs on the roster. You look at Jimmy Grappolo's

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Speaker 1: performance and while he hasn't been available for a lot

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Speaker 1: a ton of games in his kind of you know,

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Speaker 1: multi year era with the ford Enners, when he's been available,

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Speaker 1: he's been good. He took the team to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: So you really can't deny the fact that he is

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Speaker 1: in the top ten, top fifteen of all the quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: in the league. And really, if you look at it,

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Speaker 1: there there aren't that many guys who can do it

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Speaker 1: all that can carry a team on their back. There's

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Speaker 1: maybe five or six. It's there's not many guys in

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Speaker 1: the world that can do that job. And he does

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Speaker 1: it well enough to take a team to the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: which is saying quite a bit. So I just don't

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Speaker 1: think that the Foreignitors can make a change there that's

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Speaker 1: going to be one of the ones that you know,

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Speaker 1: has kind of sparked all the rumors across the interwebs

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Speaker 1: ver sa um without breaking the bank and really harming

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Speaker 1: the team in the long term in regards to other positions.

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Speaker 1: So I think I would say it's a high percentage

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Speaker 1: chance that Jimmy Garoppolos stays. I think that what they

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Speaker 1: should do is upgrade the backup position because if you

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Speaker 1: look at last year, everybody was still productive, but if

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Speaker 1: you and if you didn't have the turnovers from the offense,

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Speaker 1: they actually probably would have made the postseason, and you know,

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Speaker 1: very likely far into the postseason. Looking at the play

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Speaker 1: of a lot of different teams, it's always a what if.

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Speaker 1: But really, securing the ball was a huge issue for

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Speaker 1: the Fourgnitors last year. I think about it was that

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Speaker 1: stat and it was a stretch and they had so

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Speaker 1: many games in a row with at least three turner

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Speaker 1: of turn turnovers in the game, and it my mind

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Speaker 1: goes right back to that New Orleans game where I

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Speaker 1: think coming out of the first quarter it was ten zero,

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Speaker 1: and you really felt this. I feel like there was

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Speaker 1: kind of like this fire under the team to prove

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Speaker 1: the naysayer is wrong. I think they had that below

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Speaker 1: five record and we're playing relatively well, specifically on defense,

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Speaker 1: and it was just those turnovers continued to haunt that team.

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Speaker 1: It was two muck punts and you know, I feel

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Speaker 1: like that was the forts demise in that game. But um,

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Speaker 1: but you're right, You're You're absolutely right. And another thing

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Speaker 1: that comes to mind when you're talking about Jimmy Garoppolo

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Speaker 1: is I think about how there's that narrative that Kyle

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Speaker 1: Shanahan has one of the most complex offenses in the league,

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Speaker 1: and you have a guy who knows this offense, who

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Speaker 1: has been here for more ultiple years. Now, just how

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Speaker 1: quickly do you think making a switch at quarterback, how

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Speaker 1: quickly will that quarterback be able to adjust, be able

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Speaker 1: to kind of build that rapport with this locker room.

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Speaker 1: And I know these guys have a lot of respect

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Speaker 1: for Jimmy. You hear them, uh in every interview they do. Kyle,

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Speaker 1: you check is steadily defending Jimmy Garoppolo, whether he's going

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Speaker 1: into free agency, or not. You always hear Kyle youth

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Speaker 1: Check speaking highly if Jimmy Sam goes for your tight

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Speaker 1: end George Kittle, and that also what kind of messages

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Speaker 1: that giving to this team? You know that your your

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Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. Am using my air quotes. But this team

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Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl but still is expendable at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day. So I think there's a lot

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Speaker 1: that goes into the team's decision to stick with Jimmy

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Speaker 1: or to move on from Jimmy, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: those variables. I do think play apart culture is a

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Speaker 1: big thing that Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch continue to preach,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's something that they want to continue

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Speaker 1: to stand on, especially when bringing free agency or and

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Speaker 1: and getting this team to play for one collective goal.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think you know, the one

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Speaker 1: quarterback that I thought they might have a chance at

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Speaker 1: getting was Matt Stafford because he wouldn't be as high,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have as high of a price tag as all

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Speaker 1: the rest of the quarterbacks that are out there that

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Speaker 1: are starting caliber. But obviously that didn't happen. He went

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Speaker 1: to the Rams for an incredibly huge blockbuster trade, but

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Speaker 1: I think the rest of the quarterbacks that are out

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Speaker 1: there would just be too cost prohibitive. And like you said,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think the locker room believes in Jimmy.

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, it does send a message to

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Speaker 1: the team that you know, we're going to stand by

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Speaker 1: our guy, and you know, it's it's really important for

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Speaker 1: players to believe in their franchise and believe in their

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Speaker 1: front office in that way, and standing behind Jim and

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Speaker 1: Garoppolo really does send an important message to everybody. I

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Speaker 1: have one last question for you, Jennifer, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: let you go. You brought up Matt Stafford, so I

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Speaker 1: have to ask what is the biggest threat to the

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Speaker 1: Fortys that has happen and so far this offseason. Is

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Speaker 1: it the Rams trade for Matt Stafford or is it

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals acquiring J. J. Watt? Who those are pretty

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Speaker 1: big ones and they're pretty evenly matched on different sides

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Speaker 1: of the ball. Um. I think, you know, if the

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Speaker 1: for Dinners retain Trent Williams, I think that helps facing J. G.

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Speaker 1: Watt and uh Nick Bosey being healthy will definitely help

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Speaker 1: with uh facing Matt Stafford getting to him kind of

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Speaker 1: you know, making him off center off balance. Uh, so

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Speaker 1: you've got two guys that really need to be on

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Speaker 1: the roster and be healthy to kind of combat those

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Speaker 1: uh opponents. But man, both of those the NFC West,

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Speaker 1: you know, always looks just like the toughest division in

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Speaker 1: the league, and both those players are going to make

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Speaker 1: it even more so. I say it every year. I

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Speaker 1: believe the NFC West is one of the toughest divisions

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Speaker 1: in the league. I thought I said that last year

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Speaker 1: when he saw DeAndre Hopkins coming to the Cardinals and

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Speaker 1: each team I feel like steadily trying to top the

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Speaker 1: other team making certain acquisitions and trades. But it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be an exciting offseason, especially for the forty Niners what

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Speaker 1: they decided to do with There are a large amount

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Speaker 1: of free agent sets open market on March seventeen, and

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Speaker 1: hopefully we get some news soon reporting from uh Jennifer

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Speaker 1: lee Chan from NBC Sports Bay Area hopefully given us

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Speaker 1: some updates on what's coming down the pipeline when she

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Speaker 1: hears it. But Jennifer, appreciate having you here on the

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Speaker 1: podcast answering some of these fan questions, giving us a

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Speaker 1: little preview our free agent Whiz on what's to come

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Speaker 1: up in the next couple of weeks, but it was

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Speaker 1: an absolute pleasure and thanks for joining us. Absolutely always

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Speaker 1: a pleasure talking to Kiana. Thanks for having me on