1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: all of you out there listening and hanging out with us. 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: We have got a bevy of stories to dive in 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: with all of you today. Congressman Chip Roy, great State 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: of Texas will join us at one thirty Eastern time. 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 1: David's wide who I would say Buck of the left 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:30,159 Speaker 1: leaning media may have been the most honest person in 8 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: the way that he covered COVID for New York Magazine 9 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: if I remember correctly back in the day. And he's 10 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: got a book out that is just savaging the decision 11 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: to shut down schools that he wrote about for some time, 12 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: masking all of the chaos that came out of COVID, 13 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: and I think we will enjoy that conversation with him, 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: and I hope that his book, which is designed to 15 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: be an early version of the historical record of what 16 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: we went through with COVID, will become a clarion call 17 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: for those who are pursuing truth going forward on the 18 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: historic record, because one thing you and I have been 19 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: talking about for years now is not only we knew 20 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: you and I early on that much of the COVID 21 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: failures were inexcusable. But what is the lesson that will 22 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: be drawn in the decades ahead for people who are 23 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: studying this era of history. And I hope we are 24 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: starting to get some of that truth out into the 25 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: public record. As you know, you read the book, the 26 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: Great Influenza Book that everybody suddenly started buying up during COVID, 27 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: and much of the way that we responded to the 28 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: influenza epidemic the Spanish flu back in the nineteen nineteen 29 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: ish era, unfortunately, was reflected one hundred years later. And 30 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: one of the things that you saw, Buck, and we'll 31 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: dive into this a little bit later with David Zwaig, 32 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: but just off the top here, one of the things 33 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: that you saw was people just didn't want to talk 34 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: about it. They just kind of put it in the 35 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: background and pretended that it hadn't happened at all. Now, 36 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: that was much more traumatic in general, because the percentage 37 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: of people who died was higher. The people who died 38 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: from the Spanish flu tended to be much younger, whereas 39 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: the people who had COVID issues in this country thankfully 40 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: tended to be on the older end of the spectrum. 41 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: I say thankfully because you didn't have otherwise fully healthy 42 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: people dropping who otherwise would have had decades of life. Thankfully, 43 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: COVID did not have hardly any impact at all on 44 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: the young. Because if you had reversed this and COVID 45 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: had had the same impact on the super young that 46 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: it did on the age, I think the way that 47 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: America and the world responded would have been very different. 48 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: But this book that he is writing, I've got a 49 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: copy of it in my house and I've already started 50 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: to read it a little bit, is I think, an 51 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: important historic record. 52 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: So we will talk with him at two. Speaking of 53 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 2: important historic records, all of the books are now being 54 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: written that we told you would be written in the 55 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: wake of the twenty twenty four election having to do 56 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: with Joe Biden, and the mental and physical lies about 57 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 2: him being at the peak of his abilities are now 58 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: being exposed. You can go back in time. We told 59 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: you they would try to protect him as long as 60 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 2: they could. They would argue that he was sharp as attack. 61 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: Now even Jake Tapper, who tried to argue that any 62 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: attacks on Joe Biden for his mental and physical health 63 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: were cheap fakes. Now even he has written a book 64 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: that is going to be out I think in the 65 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks, and even the left leaning media 66 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: are now holding their politician's feet to the fire when 67 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: they do interviews. This interview that I want to play 68 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: for you guys is of Elizabeth Warren. Buck does a 69 00:03:54,960 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: very good Elizabeth Warren impersonation, if I must say so myself. 70 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: This they this is uh. I want to make sure 71 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: that I give credit because I got an email from 72 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,119 Speaker 1: these guys saying, hey, we're an independent podcast and can 73 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: you if you're going to share this. This is on 74 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: the Talk Easy podcast. This is Sam Gregoso interviewing Elizabeth 75 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: Warren and they have this exchange about Joe Biden's Did 76 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: I mispronounce that? 77 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 3: Did you say? 78 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: Greg I think it's Fredoso right the way I have 79 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: it written here is Grugoso. But it's possible our team 80 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: changed the got the name wrong. But Fragoso or grug Goso. No, it' scrugoso. 81 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 3: You're right. 82 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 2: I should just shut my face keep going uh. This 83 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: is this is the podcast that it's from. I just 84 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 2: wanted to give them credit. Elizabeth Warren being held accountable 85 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: for her lies and listen to how she responds to 86 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,799 Speaker 2: the questions about Joe Biden's physical and mental well being. 87 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 2: This is cut one. 88 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,679 Speaker 4: Do you regret saying that President Biden had a mental acuity, 89 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 4: he had a sharpness to him. You said that up 90 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 4: until July of last year. 91 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 5: I said what I believed to be true. 92 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 4: And do you think he was as sharp as you? 93 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 5: I said, I had not seen decline, and I hadn't 94 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 5: at that point. 95 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 4: You did not see any decline From twenty twenty four 96 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 4: Joe Biden to twenty twenty one Joe Biden. 97 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 5: Oh oh, I said that, you know what the thing is? 98 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 5: He Look, he was sharp, He was on his feet. 99 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 5: I saw him live event. I had meetings with him 100 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 5: a couple of times. 101 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 4: Senator on his feet is not praise. He can speak 102 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 4: in sentences is not praise. 103 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 5: Fair enough, fair enough. 104 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: What you have to remember here is that I was 105 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 2: he an out and out vegetable. 106 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 6: No, he was not. 107 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 3: He was able to open his eyes and blink. 108 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 7: And I did not see an S O S coming 109 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 7: from him, and. 110 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 2: So Clay Clay, I saw one of his feet is 111 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: an all timeline. He was able to stand is an 112 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 2: unbelievable DESI by. 113 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 7: This is like the conversation you would have about somebody 114 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 7: who was declining and like changed their will in the 115 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 7: last days. 116 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: Were they of sound mind or not? Well, he was 117 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 3: on his feet. 118 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 7: We're talking about the president of the United States, the 119 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 7: commander in. 120 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:35,679 Speaker 2: Chief, and she is saying, essentially, he wasn't a full 121 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: blown vegetable. So don't blame me. I just kept going 122 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 2: with the rest of the crowd here. She's not alone. 123 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 2: All the rest of them did this too. And I 124 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: think that more than anything, what happened here, Clay, was 125 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 2: that the anti Trump media became so it was like 126 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 2: a river that could only flow in one direction, and 127 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 2: nobody was ever Nobody was ever told what you're saying 128 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 2: is too crazy. And I mean nobody at MSNBC, nobody 129 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 2: in the Democrat Party, New York Times, New York Times, 130 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 2: Washington Post. Whatever you said about Trump, he's Hitler. He's 131 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 2: worse than Hitler. He's a monster. Whatever it was was 132 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: actually supported by the infrastructure of the Democrat Party. The 133 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: apparatus was cheering for it. So all corrective mechanisms were gone. 134 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: And so when you have that, you can have a 135 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: situation like exactly what transpired, where they just knew there's 136 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: no upside to speaking the truth about Biden. Anything that 137 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: is going to go against Trump is incentivized within our 138 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 2: own ecosystem, and so they all just had their marching 139 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: orders as crazy as I was going to say, like Lemmings, 140 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: But as you will see in my new book, which 141 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 2: has finally been cleared by the CIA, Lemmings don't commit 142 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: mass suicide everybody. That's a crazy story. But there's other 143 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 2: things that you talk about in the book that you 144 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: will like as well. Yes, Clay, this was something that 145 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 2: they now have to take some degree of accountability for 146 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: when there's really no pain politically for them, because they 147 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: can't move on without addressing it at some level, because 148 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: people like you and me able just keep on dunking 149 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 2: them under the water on this. 150 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 3: As we should. 151 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: You know, I thought it was interesting too. I saw 152 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: a graphic I think it was from Axios this morning 153 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: that the coverage of misinformation and disinformation has basically ended 154 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: on CNN and on MSNBC. They're not trotting out their 155 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: fact checkers anymore. I would submit to. 156 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: You, Buck that the Joe Biden cover up ended the 157 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 2: misinformation and disinformation era. Now Trump winning obviously had a 158 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 2: substantial impact on that as well. 159 00:08:58,559 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 3: But when the. 160 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: Entire left wing media, legacy media wind up together, and 161 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: I think you're right that maybe the most devastating single 162 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: statement that anybody made was Joe Scarborough basically lighting his 163 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: entire career on fire when he said this was the 164 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: best version of Biden. 165 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: His show hasn't recovered and those networks haven't recovered from this. 166 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 2: So here's the thing, Elizabeth Warren is trying to rewrite 167 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 2: history in real time here in this way. It's not 168 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: clay that they said. The narrative at the time go 169 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 2: back to exactly what you brought up with Joe Scarborough. 170 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 2: The narrative at the time wasn't Biden isn't as bad 171 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: as they say. He's semi coherent and maybe we can 172 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: push him across the finish line and then have VP 173 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 2: kammaa takeover. That would have been somewhat disingenuous or you know, 174 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 2: that would have been dishonest, But on a scale of 175 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 2: one to ten, dishonesty level six or seven, they went 176 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 2: to dishonesty level eleven, which was Biden is the best 177 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 2: he has ever been. Biden is in fact the sharpest 178 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 2: version he has ever been, which just goes to show 179 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 2: the desperation in the lie. 180 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 3: You know that that's what it really was. 181 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 2: It wouldn't be enough to try to just soft pedal 182 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 2: it and say, look, he's lost his fastball, but you. 183 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 3: Know, I think he can still get it done. That's 184 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 3: not what they were saying. 185 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 2: There's like Biden's fine, how dare you bring anything up? 186 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: It was Stalinism level propaganda. It was this guy. It's 187 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: like Kim Jong ill and on and Kim Il sung 188 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: who can all hit holes in one every time they 189 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: play golf. You know, it was that level madness. Let me, 190 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 2: by the way, you were correct. It is Sam Forgoso. 191 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 3: Oh oh, look at the buckster he thought, you know, 192 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 3: I got a sharp ear. 193 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to help so our staff, who I'm 194 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: immediately gonna throw under the bus. I wouldn't they write it. 195 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: They wrote it as Sam Grugoso. But is Sam Fragoso 196 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: who had that interview? And I do give him credit 197 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: because anyone who said that Biden was able to serve 198 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: as president in a fully honest media they should have 199 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: to answer for that. They should have to explain why 200 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: they said that, and not only the not only politicians. 201 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: Have you ever heard Joe Scarborough be asked or pushed 202 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: in any way on that viral clip where he argued 203 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: that this was the best version of Biden that had 204 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: ever existed, has held him accountable. 205 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 2: To be fair, I think that he is just trying 206 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 2: to ride out things and wait and wait so that 207 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 2: by the time anyone asks him about like I don't 208 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 2: think he's putting himself in a position where even Elizabeth Warren, 209 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 2: because she's not as bad based on the soundbites with 210 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 2: this as some of the others, she's trying to take 211 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 2: the medicine. 212 00:11:58,679 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 3: Now. 213 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 2: I think Barborough knows that it's it's brand annihilation that 214 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 2: he faces if the wrong person gets him on the 215 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: hot seat and asks him this question, you can't come 216 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 2: back from that. Why should someone listen to Joe Scarborough 217 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 2: about anything? If he's that dumb or that dishonest, Why 218 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: would you care what he thinks about a single thing 219 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 2: and exists. 220 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 3: I don't want to. 221 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 2: I don't care what ice cream flavor he thinks is best. 222 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: Yours answers Pistacio, which is, by the way, maybe even 223 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: worse than Joe Scarborough's answer would be to be fair, You. 224 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 2: See that Pistascio lovers get from Clay and just flute 225 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: playing ways outrageous. 226 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: Well, take some of your calls on this. I do 227 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: think that these conversations that we're gonna have with David 228 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: Swig are important. And if you are out there and 229 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: you argued that this was the best version of Biden, 230 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: the two by four is coming for you because these 231 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 1: books are coming out and everyone in the legacy media 232 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: is trying to cover their backsides on this, and so 233 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: they're now covering the release of the books in every 234 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: little detail. For instance, I'm reading that Biden was supposed 235 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: to do his prep work from Camp David and he 236 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: got too tired and he just went outside by the 237 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: pool and fell asleep, which but remember they were telling 238 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: everybody his prep has been amazing, and then they tried 239 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: to say, well, he has a little bit of a 240 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: cold after the debate performance. Imagine you're trying to prepare 241 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: the president for debate and he's like, I'm tired, and 242 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: he just goes outside by the pool and falls asleep. 243 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: That's a story that's out there right now. 244 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: You know, there's a movie, The Death of Stalin that's 245 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 2: actually pretty clever for what it is, and it's a farce, 246 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: right but it's what does everyone do when Stalin dies 247 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 2: around him? The Fall of Biden movie that you could 248 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 2: make where you basically go weekend at Bernie's. I mean, 249 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: you just it would be if if anyone in Hollywood 250 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 2: wanted to take this idea, it would be utterly hilarious 251 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 2: and I think everybody would want to go see it, 252 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: and you could base it off of the real stories here. 253 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: By the way, I will say, as we go to break, 254 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: imagine what Jill Biden saw. Imagine what the wife of 255 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: the president, the first lady, what she saw. I still 256 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: think she is maybe the biggest villain here because she 257 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: was willing to drag his basic corpse right across the 258 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: finish line so she could keep living in the White House. 259 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 3: I mean she is. I imagine I. 260 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 2: Have a I want to just because I feel like 261 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 2: fighting with Clay today. I have a very different take 262 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 2: on Jill Biden that I would like to share when 263 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: we come back. I have a very different take than 264 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: you on that I do not expect. She is to 265 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 2: me the worst villain here. 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We'll talk about the fight over Abrego 294 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 2: Garcia's deportation. We'll get into the kerfuffle over at the Pentagon. 295 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: Pete hegg Seth's still SEC deaf today, going to be 296 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: SEC deaf going forward as well as we knew media 297 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: trying an op not successful against him, but something's going 298 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 2: on over there. But first up, Clay, just to give 299 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 2: you a quick a scorching take, because I liked I 300 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: like to do scorching takes. Clay says that Jill Biden, 301 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 2: as we're all now looking at the Democrats scrambling for 302 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: cover on the on the giant and absurd lie that 303 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: Joe Biden was of sound mind not just to run 304 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 2: for reelection, but for the final year of his presidency. Really, 305 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 2: I would argue the final two or three years. But 306 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 2: they're all scrambling for cover. Jill Biden, Clay says, is 307 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: the chief villain. I just want to offer this different 308 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 2: take on it, Jill Biden. Yes, in the view of 309 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 2: the American people and her responsibility as a citizen, what 310 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 2: she did is outrageous. However, Clay, she had to make 311 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 2: sure that he stayed in the saddle long enough to 312 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: give the Biden family all their pardons to negotiate an 313 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 2: exit to You know, I think that she may have 314 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 2: known that things were all crashing down around her and 315 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: she had to keep the charade going as long as 316 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 2: possible for her immediate family, for her son, her son Hunter, 317 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 2: and for the rest of the crew. That's my take 318 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 2: on this. I think she knew and was scrambling. Oh, 319 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: this is a fun this is a fun topic. I'm 320 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 2: going to come back and tell you why she is 321 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: the most heinous person in America. But I don't think 322 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 2: your defense of her is an awful one. So that 323 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 2: is so generous of you. Yeah, thank you, You're welcome. 324 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 2: Clay's in a generous mood today. Steak dinners are fantastic. 325 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: You know, my family's coming down, Grandma and Grandpa Sex 326 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 2: and they want to meet the guy. So I'm planning 327 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: a big steak dinner this weekend and it's catered basically 328 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 2: by Good Ranchers, because that's what all the steaks are 329 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 2: coming from. 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Good Ranchers, American Meat delivered. 345 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show. 346 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 3: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 347 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: Rolling through the Tuesday edition of the program, all Right, 348 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: Buck made a defense of Joe Biden as hey, she 349 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: knew things were coming unraveled, and she wanted to make 350 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: sure the family at large was taken care of, whether 351 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: it's Hunter's pardon, whether it's the pardon for Joe Biden's brother, 352 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: whether it's the pardons for Biden corrupt family, inc. 353 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 3: I don't disagree with that defense. 354 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: My argument, though, would be all of that could have 355 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: happened even if Joe did not have to run for reelection. 356 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: So to me, Jill better than anyone, had to see 357 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: Joe behind closed doors, when he wasn't shot up with drugs, 358 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: when he wasn't at his best ability to remember he 359 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: was bad in public, But that was probably the best 360 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: version of Joe they could put forward. Imagine all the 361 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: things that she saw, as any spouse would. That showed 362 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: how rapidly Joe was declining. And unfortunately, I know some 363 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: of you have probably had to go through this. It's 364 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: usually the spouse that recognizes dementia before anybody else does, 365 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: because the spouse, either the husband or the wife, is 366 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: interacting far more than anybody else would be, and so 367 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: they pick up on these signals before anybody else would, 368 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: and sometimes they will help to cover because they don't 369 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: want to admit what they're seeing. But to me, Jill, certainly, 370 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: by twenty twenty two, I think it was reckless for 371 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: them to run Joe, and I think Joe Biden's mental 372 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 1: and physical decline would have revealed itself buck if COVID 373 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 1: hadn't happened, because I don't think they would have been 374 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: able to hide him. And I think on the campaign 375 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: trail he would have given away his decline in a 376 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: way that he didn't when they were having him in 377 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: the basement campaign. 378 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 379 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 2: Look, I don't want us to go too deep into 380 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 2: into bidenology at this phase. 381 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 3: He's a complete political irrelevancy. 382 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: And you know, we got some big things that Trump 383 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 2: is handling right now in this moment, I would just say, 384 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: I think that Jill saw this whole thing as the 385 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 2: family business extended through old man Biden, and wanted to 386 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 2: maximize the leverage for him and the family going forward. Clay, 387 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 2: I think if they had, if she had talked about 388 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 2: it too early, there would have been pressure on him 389 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 2: to step down. That's the other part of this, right 390 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 2: there would have been press and pressure to step down 391 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 2: and not do the part in be you know, think 392 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 2: about it, right, let's say it's January twenty twenty four. 393 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 2: Finally she says, look, you know Joe Biden is and 394 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,719 Speaker 2: that would have been late, but not super late as 395 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 2: what they did. If my husband is having you know, 396 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 2: health issues whatever, well if he's not, if he's not 397 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 2: healthy enough in January to run, he's not healthy enough 398 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 2: to stay as president, he gets pressure to step Downamala 399 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 2: as sends, then they'd say, well hold on, you will 400 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 2: totally hurt Kamala's chances if the corruption of the Biden 401 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 2: family is front loaded into the election cycle. So I'm 402 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 2: just I'm just saying, look, is Jill ruthless and awful? Absolutely? 403 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 2: Was she play in the hand that she was dealt 404 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 2: pretty reasonably? I don't know a little. I sound like 405 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 2: the Biden family lawyer over here, but I think I 406 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 2: can see how this went down. 407 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 3: I had this conversation with my wife, and I believe 408 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 3: I've said it on the. 409 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 2: Radio before, Yeah, that you wouldn't that she wouldn't let 410 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 2: you go and make a total jackass of yourself. Knowing 411 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 2: Laura pretty well, I think that is one hundred percent accurate. 412 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: If you start, I told her, if you start to 413 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: recognize that, given the job that we have and given 414 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: the jobs when we're talking in public, if you start 415 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: to recognize behind the scenes that I am losing it, 416 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: you need to be the person who says, hey, we're 417 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: starting to dial back what we're doing publicly. 418 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 3: Now. 419 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: Laura actually made my wife a really interesting point that 420 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: I think could actually work towards your Biden. 421 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 3: Family defense argument. Here. 422 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: Her defense of Jill was, she knows how bad he is, 423 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: but she has bought into the idea that Trump will 424 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: destroy the country, and so even though her husband's brain 425 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: was scrambled eggs, she was thinking to herself, for the 426 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 1: benefit of the country. I think this is maybe how 427 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: she rationalized it. I have to prop up Joe because 428 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: Trump is so awful. But then Buck the debate happened, 429 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: and then I think she shifted her anger from Trump 430 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: is going to destroy the country to I hate everyone 431 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: that's coming after my husband, Nancy Pelosi, Barack Obama, probably 432 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: Kamala because we've seen the frosty relationships between the two 433 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: of them, and it seems like a lot of times 434 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 1: the spouse is the one who is angrier. Joe Biden 435 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: can get over people being mean to him. Donald Trump 436 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: may be able to get over people meaning being mean 437 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 1: to him. It seems quite clear that they can. I 438 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: bet Malanya, and I bet Jill, and some of these 439 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: political spouses don't get over it anywhere near as well. 440 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: And they're actually the ones that want to gut the 441 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: adversaries metaphorically speaking, I'm sure, I'm sure you have this 442 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: in your own life, and I'm sure many of the 443 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: guys listening to this the same thing. I can walk 444 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: off even a cheap shot, far more easily than my 445 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: wife will walk off somebody else's cheap shot of me 446 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: of me right, same thing with you right in media 447 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: that Laura would I would not want them to be 448 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: in the same room with her because of things. 449 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 3: It's a different deal. 450 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 2: Like you and I and I might be like, look, 451 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 2: you know whatever, but like the wife in the background 452 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 2: is like, oh, I've got your number, like they don't. 453 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 3: It's the same thing here. 454 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: And so I think what happened was her anger at 455 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: Trump pivoted to her anger at the Democrat Party because 456 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: she thought they were more disloyal to him than even 457 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: Trump was. And Buck when you read those pictures, she 458 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: looked pretty happy when Trump came to visit the White House. 459 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: I'm sorry she didn't look like somebody who felt as 460 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: if she were turning over the keys to the mansion 461 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 1: to Adolf Hitler. I think, I really do. She wore 462 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 1: the red dress on election Day. 463 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 3: Do you remember this? 464 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 2: Well, that was after Biden had been completely humiliated, and 465 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 2: in her mind, I think, be great. I also think 466 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: that again, I'm not the consolieri of the Biden family. 467 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to look at it from their side 468 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 2: of the poker table. You know, a little devil, a 469 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 2: little Biden devil's advocate here. I think Clay that she 470 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 2: gets to walk away from this whole thing now and say, 471 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 2: Kamala completely screwed the whole thing up. You shouldn't have 472 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: bailed on my Joe. He could have taken it across 473 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 2: the finish line. And again, Biden's record, want to know, 474 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 2: against Trump, people can say that's insane, that's in whatever 475 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 2: that is actually the historical record, and Jill I think 476 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 2: sees it that way too. At least that's the narrat Look, 477 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 2: people tell themselves whatever they want to believe. 478 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 3: We all need our and they will argue. 479 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: And I think this is going to be argued for 480 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: years and years to come that the Biden people will argue, 481 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: I think more so in the years to come than 482 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 1: they even are now. Hey, picking Kamala was a disaster. 483 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: We could have dragged Joe across the finish line. Yes, 484 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: that will be the argument. People get you and I 485 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: can sit here and argue about that as we have before. 486 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: But there will certainly be a Biden camp that says 487 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: that because you can't you can't prove otherwise. And we 488 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: know Kamala got just Kama got crushed. By the way, 489 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: I don't believe any of the stuff that says Kamala 490 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: they want her to run again. You know, we can 491 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: mark this down, mark this down, buck prediction. All right, 492 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: there's no way, no way Kamala is going to be 493 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: their nominee the next time around. But I know that's 494 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: a ways out. So here's the other thing. I don't 495 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: hear anybody defending eighty one million votes anymore. Have you 496 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: noticed how that story just kind of vanished? And I mean, 497 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,959 Speaker 1: I'm just finished the new book that I was writing. 498 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: When you go look at the eighty one million votes 499 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: in the context of the last ten years, twelve years 500 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: of American politics. 501 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,719 Speaker 3: There is no way on the plant. 502 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: Not even Democrats now are looking around like Joe Biden 503 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: getting eighty one million votes is the craziest. Now, look 504 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: the rig job COVID. Did they maximize every possible way 505 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: to get ballots? And yes, did they harvest like crazy? 506 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: But there's no way buck eighty one million votes ever happened. 507 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:38,719 Speaker 3: I'm gonna bring us. 508 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna bring us now clay into present day, okay 509 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 2: with Donald Trump this morning, the following, and you could 510 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 2: take this and run with it. How can Biden let 511 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 2: millions of criminals into our country totally unchecked and unvetted, 512 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,959 Speaker 2: with no legal authority to do so? Yet I in 513 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 2: order to make up for this assault to our nation 514 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 2: and expected to go through a lengthy legal process separately 515 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 2: for each and every criminal alien as usual, two different 516 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 2: standards only leading to complete and total destruction of the USA. 517 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 2: And then I love it in all caps, make America 518 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 2: great again. I think this is the fundamental question that 519 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,719 Speaker 2: faces the country right now, more so even than the 520 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 2: tariffs and the economy stuff, which I know is getting 521 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 2: a bit of focus again, because you know, the market 522 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 2: is sea sawing down yesterday up today. Put that aside 523 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 2: for a moment. We'll get back to it. Clay, What 524 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 2: does it mean if, even when you have a Republican administration, 525 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 2: the Democrats can flood the country and there's no way 526 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 2: to unflood it, which is really essentially what the courts 527 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 2: are going to be deciding here, or at least that's 528 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 2: what the courts are aligning themselves up for. I don't 529 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 2: know what to tell people. I don't know what the 530 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 2: answer is. If Trump can't actually do the deportations of 531 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 2: the I'm talking just Biden arrivals now, not talking about 532 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 2: you know, someone's abuela who's been here since nineteen ninety two. 533 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 2: I'm talking about the people that just arrived illegally as 534 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 2: part of this game. We could talk about that other 535 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,479 Speaker 2: thing later if Biden, I mean, if Trump can't get 536 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 2: rid of them, what do we do? We have a 537 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 2: country really that is worthy of the name of What 538 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: is this place? 539 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 8: No? 540 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 2: I mean, this is what I said yesterday, and I 541 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 2: probably should just make it simple. It's a math problem. 542 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 2: You cannot deport right now. We're doing around three hundred 543 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 2: and fifty thousand people a year. If that is the 544 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 2: rate by which we will deport illegal immigrants just in 545 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 2: the four years that Biden let ten million plus in, 546 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 2: it will take us about thirty years to get those 547 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 2: people out. That's presuming that there's not going to be 548 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 2: some other Democrat who opens the borders wide open again. 549 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 2: That was their gamble. Their gamble was once these people 550 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,479 Speaker 2: get here, they're never going home, and eventually there's going 551 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 2: to have to be a solution for them. They're playing 552 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: a game that's generational in nature, and Trump is trying 553 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 2: to fight back against it, and the state and that 554 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 2: he's allowed to fight with are completely different than the 555 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 2: ones that Biden was allowed to put in place, which 556 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 2: is why why the Abrallo Garcia story is interesting. 557 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: It's not really about him. It's about what are the 558 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: protocols and processes by which Trump can accelerate the deportation 559 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: from people inside the country, not rejecting people at the 560 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: southern border, which he is satisfied and now solved that problem. 561 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: The next equation here is how do you get the 562 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: ten million plus in the last four years out and 563 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: to say nothing of what was the number I gave 564 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: you twenty five million and you came up with a 565 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: number of thirty million. We don't even know what the 566 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: total number of illegals living in the country right now 567 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: actually is. 568 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting. I just told my brother today. 569 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 2: I said, we've got a great new sponsor on the shows. 570 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 2: You know, my older brother and I were just shooting 571 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 2: this past week and we go shooting a lot together, 572 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 2: and he is somebody who can steal care. He can 573 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 2: steal carries all the time. He's just a big believer 574 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 2: in it. And I said, Mace, I'm gonna get you 575 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 2: signed up. You've got to try us CCA. It's so funny. 576 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 2: He goes, I've been a USCCA member for years. 577 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 3: Buck, I don't even realize. 578 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 2: He goes, look, if you're if you're gonna be concealed 579 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 2: carrying as much as you try to make sure. 580 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: You wanted to make sure he was covered, and I 581 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: want to make sure about this everything. 582 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 3: And he's been covered for years. 583 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,479 Speaker 2: Me laughed at me. He's like, I've been covered by 584 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 2: USCCA for years. He's like, you should have asked me 585 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 2: about this before. I said, well, you know, they're I 586 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 2: just learned and they're a sponsor and they're amazing. So yeah, 587 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 2: Mason has been a us CCM member for for years 588 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 2: already before they ever partner with us on this show. 589 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 2: I'm a member now because now I realize I've only 590 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 2: been in Florida for a couple of years, so I 591 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 2: haven't been able to conceal carry for very long. And 592 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 2: obviously you can't just do that in New York and 593 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 2: get arrested. So USCCA, though, is something you got to 594 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 2: have if you're a gun owner, because remember, it's not 595 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 2: just about concealed carry. If you use a firearm in 596 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 2: defense of your home, your family, you need. 597 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 3: To have USCCA. 598 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 2: Tens of millions of dollars in legal fees have been 599 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 2: covered by uscc four u s CCA members who have 600 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 2: acted in self defense. Every member also gets access to 601 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 2: a twenty four seven critical response team and attorning network 602 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 2: in the event of a self defense incident. When I 603 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 2: was taking my concealed carry class down here, which isn't 604 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 2: even necessary in Florida anymore, but I wanted to do 605 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 2: it anyway so I could go over the fundamentals of 606 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,479 Speaker 2: the law in this state, my instructor said, I think 607 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 2: you guys should all get USCCA. I'm just telling you, 608 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 2: he said, that, and he said that one of the 609 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 2: guys that he knew that had to defend himself had 610 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 2: to call lawyer and guess what he called the lawyer 611 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 2: from the USCCA network. But you got to be a 612 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 2: member to get these benefits. One hundred percent satisfaction guaranteed. 613 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 2: Your membership is backed by the USCCA thirty day one 614 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 2: hundred percent money back to bulletproof guarantee. Download the free 615 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 2: Concealed Carry and Family Defense Guide at this website USCCA 616 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 2: dot com slash buck. That's USCCA dot com slash buck. 617 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 2: If my own brother has had this for years and 618 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 2: says you absolutely have to. If you're going to carry 619 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,959 Speaker 2: or just be a firearms owner, trust me, you need 620 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,719 Speaker 2: to get USCCA too. Go to u USCCA dot com 621 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 2: slash buck. 622 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 8: Patriots radio hosts a couple of regular guys, Clay Travis 623 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 8: and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app 624 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 8: or wherever you get your podcasts. 625 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. Have you 626 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 2: ever tried Mushroom Coffee? I toldally we have exciting new 627 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 2: products now at Crocketcoffee dot com and Mushroom Coffee. A 628 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 2: lot of you're discovering this. It's delicious. It has a 629 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 2: lot of really cool benefits in addition to you know 630 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 2: that pick me up of the caffeine. Of course, it's 631 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 2: lower in the level of caffeine than your standard coffee. 632 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 2: So here's what I would offer to you, especially if 633 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 2: you want that cup in the afternoon. Look, I'm drinking 634 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 2: Crockett right now and I've had I'm on my second 635 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 2: cup of the day. But if you want to try 636 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 2: something in the afternoon, they'll give you a little boost, 637 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 2: but not quite as much so you don't have to 638 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 2: worry about it affecting your sleep later. Plus, if you've 639 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 2: never just tried mushroom coffee, it's really interesting. All the 640 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 2: benefits from it. It's delicious. Go to crocketcoffee dot com 641 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 2: check out the mushroom coffee and also just subscribe for 642 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 2: your normal coffee and you will be big fans if 643 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 2: you use code book. By the way, you're still going 644 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 2: to sign copy of Clay's American Playbook? Have we gotten 645 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 2: rid of almost all of the American Playbook? 646 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 3: Signan Travis. 647 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what the fun the number is right now, 648 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: but I will tell you this, My wife is so 649 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: ready for these books to be out of my garage 650 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 1: that when they are gone, she is going to throw 651 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: a party. I think I don't know what the exact 652 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: number is. There are still several hundred in the garage, 653 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: but you need to get them because we're in the 654 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 1: process of moving. And I'm telling you she I don't 655 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: think she's a book burner, but I think she would 656 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: gladly burn these books. She wants them out of the 657 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: Travis house, and so you need to get them. I'm 658 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: autographing them all, Katie, my awesome assistant is sending them out, 659 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: so they are rapidly dwindling. I see the stack in 660 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: the garage every time I drive in and out, and 661 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of them left. 662 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 2: Let's take some calls here and some talkbacks. Laura in 663 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 2: Pennsylvania has a story to share. 664 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 6: What's up, Laura him getting back to talking about the 665 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 6: ridiculousness of people claiming they didn't see the decline of Biden. 666 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 6: It was five years ago when my child was twelve 667 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 6: years old, and we're listening to either debate or speech, 668 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,879 Speaker 6: and Joe Biden was up there and her not even 669 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 6: paying attention. Twelve years old knows nothing about politics. She 670 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 6: stops and she says, Mom, why does she sound like 671 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,919 Speaker 6: pop Hoop? I said, honey, because you like pop pop. 672 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 6: There's a twelve year old child who was able to 673 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 6: see all the signs, the blank stairs, the rise and 674 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 6: anger quickly. And you're telling me that grown adults. I 675 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 6: didn't see this years ago. And for Joe Biden to 676 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 6: allow that to happen, and the rapid decline, knowing all 677 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 6: the stress, everything, I find it despicable because I did everything. 678 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 6: I did everything in my power to protect my father 679 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 6: from anything, anything and everything. And I just find it 680 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 6: sick named that she stood by and watched it happen. 681 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 2: Laura, thank you so much for calling in Clay And 682 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 2: it is true. I even said the same thing on 683 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 2: the air that the Biden some of the stuff reminded 684 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,240 Speaker 2: me of my maternal grandfather, who's a great American, a patriot, 685 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 2: a war you know, a guy who was a veteran, 686 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,439 Speaker 2: but when he got to a certain age, you could 687 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 2: just see it. We all saw it with Biden. Everyone 688 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 2: a twelve year old that Laura just talked about, her 689 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 2: daughter saw it. If he hadn't debated on June twenty seventh, 690 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 2: they would have legitimately tried to get him re elected, 691 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 2: one which is wild to even think about. Keep rolling here, 692 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 2: we get some great guests for you. 693 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 3: Next hour. Chip Roy Congressman Texas