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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema.

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Speaker 3: This is Rob Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick, and it's

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Speaker 3: Mech Day on Weird House Cinema. Rob. Is this our first?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: Wait what am I asking? I was gonna say? Is

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Speaker 3: this our first full on mech movie? But we did

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Speaker 3: Robot Jocks that's like an all time fave.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is coming. This would be our second

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Speaker 2: mech film. It's gonna be what our second Japanese film?

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Speaker 2: And in a very broad sense, I guess it's like

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Speaker 2: what our second cyberpunk film.

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Speaker 3: I guess it depends on what you count as cyberpunk.

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Speaker 3: So today we're going to be looking at the nineteen

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Speaker 3: eighty nine Japanese cyberpunk movie gun Head aka gun Hato

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Speaker 3: and gun Head. I know what you're thinking. Is that

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Speaker 3: spelled No, it is spelled with an hed instead of

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Speaker 3: an hcha D like that. Isn't there a band that's

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Speaker 3: called like head P or something. I don't know anything

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Speaker 3: about that band. I remember them from when I was

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Speaker 3: in high school and they also spell it CHD. No comment,

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Speaker 3: there nothing interesting about I.

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Speaker 2: Have nothing to add on that I don't know anything

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Speaker 2: about p head, though a gunhead with the AGD spelling

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Speaker 2: would be a great name for a band.

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Speaker 3: It would be, Actually, I was just thinking that. Not

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Speaker 3: only that, the logo for the movie, where the title

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Speaker 3: is rendered in the full on screen font, looks like

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Speaker 3: a band logo, looks like the van Halen logo or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now some of you might be wondering, especially if

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Speaker 2: you're going to this episode's sight unseen, Is this about

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Speaker 2: a Is this a Japanese cyberpunk film about a guy

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Speaker 2: with a gun for a head? No, even though that

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Speaker 2: would be a perfect perfect plot device for a Japanese

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Speaker 2: cyberpunk film.

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Speaker 3: Sure, Like a guy who gets some kind of virus

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Speaker 3: inside him that causes his head to fu is with

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Speaker 3: a gun and it's all about like his identity changing

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Speaker 3: as his mind is taken over by the gun mind.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be totally an expected plot device. In fact,

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Speaker 2: it may exist. But no, gunhead stands for something.

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Speaker 3: That's right, it's your classic acronym. This stands for rob.

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Speaker 3: You dug this up, so I have to trust you

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Speaker 3: on this one, But I think you're correct. It stands

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Speaker 3: for gun unit of heavy eliminate device.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of those kind of cheap acronyms where

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Speaker 2: they get two letters from the second word. So if

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Speaker 2: we were being really strict about it, it would be

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Speaker 2: goo head instead of gunhead. But you know, gunhead sounds cooler.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, it's like those government bills that are called

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Speaker 3: like the Opportunity Act or something. An opportunity is an acronym,

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Speaker 3: and they're grabbing three letters from here and one letter

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Speaker 3: from there in the middle of a word. It's just

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Speaker 3: all over the place. They're back engineering the actual name

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Speaker 3: from the acronym.

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Speaker 2: So again, this is a nineteen eighty nine film. And

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Speaker 2: for those of you out there who you know follow

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Speaker 2: like Japanese media, maybe a little bit enough to just

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Speaker 2: know to have picked up on the title at times,

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Speaker 2: are two different video games, nineteen eighty nine's gun Head

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Speaker 2: for PC and Gunhead The New Battle for NES. It

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Speaker 2: might make you wonder, like what came first? Is this

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Speaker 2: a movie based on a video game? Is it a

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Speaker 2: movie based on a manga, which is certainly something you

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Speaker 2: see a lot of these days, But no, this film

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Speaker 2: is original IP and these are all things that were

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Speaker 3: God, I love a sci fi movie that's original. IP,

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Speaker 3: it's a beautiful Unicorn.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this, yes, especially today, but yeah, this

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Speaker 2: You even found us some screenshots from these games.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's right. So I found that. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if it was ever released for the Nees in the

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Speaker 3: United States or internationally, but it was released for the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my rough understanding. I'm not really an expert

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Speaker 3: At least the version I found as a Famicom game

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Speaker 3: called Gunhead. I guess this was Gunhead the New Battle

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Speaker 2: Yeah, with some kind of amusing looking sprites.

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Speaker 3: I like these now, based on what I saw within

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Speaker 3: the game, this would not be based within the same

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Speaker 3: be the prequel to the movie. I think this would

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Speaker 3: take place during the Robot War that is the background

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Speaker 3: I also read on the internet that the Gunhead I

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Speaker 3: don't know that this is true because I really don't

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Speaker 3: claim that there is a Turbographics sixteen game called Blazing

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Speaker 3: It's one of these vertical scrolling space shoot them up

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Speaker 2: I'm glancing at footage from it now, and yeah, I

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Speaker 2: don't see a lot of shared DNA, but maybe that's

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Speaker 3: I never had this game, but I did have a

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Speaker 3: Turbographics sixteen. I had one of those weird off brand

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Speaker 3: consoles that I remember playing games like Bonk's Adventure, which

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Speaker 2: So this is a system that didn't have Mario, didn't

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Speaker 3: It had Bonk and perhaps dubious gunhead rip off ip okay.

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Speaker 3: I was trying to write the one line elevator pitch

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Speaker 3: must be reflected in my actual pitch, which is, in

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Speaker 3: the future, armored mechs will be so advanced that humans

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this, I have to add the caveat here.

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Speaker 2: So first of all, I'm not the initial intended audience

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Speaker 2: most of the time. So I found myself watching the

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Speaker 2: film while also checking regularly checking in on the Wikipedia

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Speaker 2: plot summary for the film, which didn't really This didn't

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Speaker 2: It just kind of made it more. It's like reading

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Speaker 2: to see what's being discussed, like, all right, what are

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Speaker 2: Because if I just had to go on the movie itself,

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Speaker 3: I would argue that this was only really a problem

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Speaker 3: for us because we're having to record a podcast about it.

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Speaker 3: I think if I had just been watching this movie,

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Speaker 4: Nevertheless, this is a goot.

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Speaker 2: Like in terms of just recommending this movie, I highly

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Speaker 2: visuals in this are wonderful. The visual world of this

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Speaker 2: movie is very rich. But yeah, if you're watching it

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Speaker 3: Actually, when I was reading about this movie before we

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Speaker 3: Anyway, let's hit some trailer audio.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, look at this junk.

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Speaker 5: Give it up, Brooklyn ten seconds to contacts cross fire.

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Speaker 2: Gun Head.

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Speaker 3: Now in the English language trailer. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: Well, actually no, I stand by my original comparison. He

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Speaker 3: sounds like Duke nukemb I don't know who did that voice,

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Speaker 2: Well, let's start where we normally start. Let's talk about

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Speaker 2: the people of note the connections here. The first connection

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Speaker 3: There were like seven companies listed yeah on the yeah.

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Speaker 2: But the big one, the one that instantly gets our

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Speaker 2: attention is of course Toho the best. Yeah, legendary film studio,

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Speaker 2: films of Kira Kurosawa. But it was founded in nineteen

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Speaker 2: thirty two as the Tokyo Takarzuka Theater Company. It controlled

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Speaker 3: Every time I see the Toho logo at the beginning

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Speaker 3: because I know I'm about to watch something I adore.

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Speaker 3: I know Toho must put out bad movies too, but

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Speaker 3: I guess somehow the bad ones just never make it

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Speaker 3: to me in my personal brain archives. It's either going

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Speaker 3: to be like a lovely Kaiju meet Slam or a

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Speaker 2: the great results. So anyway, like I was saying, they

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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about some of the actual humans

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Speaker 3: Interesting why is that so often such a pleasing turn

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Speaker 4: I do not.

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Speaker 4: Didn't you know? Something went really bad?

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Speaker 3: Now, I guess this would post date Godzilla Versus Mecha Godzilla, Right, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you, James Bannon for whatever role your giant

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, And then we have another major character,

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Speaker 2: giggle inducing to American audiences and maybe you know, works

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00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 2: a little more seriously in the Polish context, or I

439
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe maybe the you know, it's Polish inventors

440
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 2: are also having a laugh. I don't know that there's

441
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of satire and works with

442
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 2: this nature.

443
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 3: For sure, I will say that the atmosphere in Gunhead

444
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 3: looks sufficiently polluted to be set in a world where

445
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 3: Texas is a major international player.

446
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 2: All right, So the character is Texas Air Rangers Sergeant Nam,

447
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 2: played by Brenda Baki. If she sounds familiar, that's because

448
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 2: she was in Tails from the Crypt Demon Knight, which

449
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 2: we previously discussed, though we didn't really discuss Baki enough.

450
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 2: I think we were too distracted by the other cast members.

451
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Billy Zane, Jada Pinkett, William Sadler. There are a

452
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 3: lot of people sucking up screen oxygen here.

453
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, though she was perfectly fine in that. She played Cordelia.

454
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 2: If you remember, she's one of the regulars there at

455
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 2: the down and out hotel that used to be a church,

456
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 2: and she's kind of a mid film victim of Billy

457
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 2: Zane's Demon crew.

458
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 3: I believe she's the one who sets Thomas Hayden Church's

459
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 3: nipples on fire.

460
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 2: Yes, with the electrodes.

461
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 4: Yes.

462
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, she's good in that. And I remember

463
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 2: watching some of the the behind the scenes features where

464
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 2: various cast members were talking about how she was just

465
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 2: super nice and a pleasure to work with. But yes,

466
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 2: in this she plays Badass Texas Air Ranger Sergeant nim Now.

467
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 2: Other than these two films, I guess her biggest screen

468
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 2: roles were in La Confidential, where she played Lanta Turner,

469
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 2: Hot Shots Part Due, and also Under Siege two Dark Territory,

470
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 2: which we've also mentioned on the show before, not.

471
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 3: Because we watched it. It seems there's a lot of

472
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 3: intersection there. We keep coming up against actors and directors

473
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 3: who worked on that film.

474
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Baki's worked a lot in TV and film,

475
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 2: but we should probably highlight her work in Death Spa

476
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 2: from nineteen eighty nine, and interestingly enough, her first screen

477
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 2: credit was a nineteen eighty six comedy that I've not

478
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 2: seen called Last Resort, which also featured Charles Grodin, Megan Malay,

479
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 2: John Lovett's Garrett Graham. Gary Graham, Yeah, who pops up

480
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,919
Speaker 2: in a lot of B films. He was in Chopping

481
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:01,719
Speaker 2: mall hm.

482
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 3: But he was also Beef in Fan of the Paradise.

483
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mario van Peebles whoa and Phil Hartman whoa. Yeah,

484
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 2: so interesting. I don't know anything about that film, but

485
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 2: that's quite a quite a cast to kick off with,

486
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 2: and I don't think it was a bit part for

487
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 2: I think it was a fairly you know, decent part

488
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 2: in the film.

489
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 3: Now, I do think it's an interesting choice that they

490
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 3: make the representative of Texas in this movie, not a

491
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 3: character like texts in Robot Jocks, who's just you know,

492
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 3: Buck Strickland from King of the Hill. That instead they

493
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 3: make the representative of Texas this kind of cool, unflappable

494
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 3: air cavalry lady.

495
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's There's not really much I guess you'd say

496
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 2: t exploitation going on with this character. She's not even

497
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 2: wearing a cowboy hat.

498
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 3: She doesn't even have an accent.

499
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 4: No, no, I.

500
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 3: Mean it's not a Texas accent. She might have writ

501
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 3: more kind of West Coast sounding.

502
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's you know, she's good. I guess she's kind

503
00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 2: of Ripley esque without you know, being that like strong

504
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 2: screen presence at all. But you know, she does a

505
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 2: good job. She's kind of a fun character as much

506
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 2: as any human in this film as a fun character,

507
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 2: but as far as other characters in the field. So

508
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,239
Speaker 2: there's a there's a whole crew. We'll discuss this as

509
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 2: we go. There's a there's an initial crew in the

510
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 2: film that gets weeded out pretty quickly, but there are

511
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 2: some some fun actors in it, at least initially, and

512
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 2: one of them is this guy, Mickey Curtis. Sometimes that's

513
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 2: spelled Mickey, like Mickey Mouse in English. Other times you

514
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 2: see it spelled with more with a I guess kind

515
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 2: of a Japanese kind of spelling in English fonts M

516
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 2: I K I. But this was one of those guys

517
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 2: that I had no clue about this guy previously, but

518
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 2: watching this film force me to look him up, and

519
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,719
Speaker 2: he's a super interesting character in this He plays the

520
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 2: weird pilot Captain banshow but in reality he's a Japanese actor, singer,

521
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 2: and media personality. Born in Japan to English jazz and

522
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 2: his parents, and he's been in a lot of things

523
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: over the years and is still active to this day.

524
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: Born in thirty eight but still acting in things. Seems

525
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 2: like he's one of these guys who's kind of just

526
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 2: continually recreated himself and tried different things, like I think

527
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 2: he's done country music more recently. But he apparently rose

528
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: to fame initially, at least in part as a member

529
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: of the avant garde rock band Mickey Curtis and the

530
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: Samurai in the late nineteen sixties. They started out as rockabilly,

531
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 2: but then they switched to more of a prog rock

532
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 2: kind of sound, and their nineteen seventy one album Kapa

533
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: is said to be a masterpiece of heavy progressive rock

534
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: in Japan, at least according to proguarchives dot com.

535
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 3: According to the Proguetologist.

536
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, I'm no prog rock expert or anything, especially

537
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: within the context of the Japanese music scene, but I

538
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 2: looked this up. I wasn't able to find it on Spotify.

539
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 2: It's listed on Discog's certainly listed on prog archives dot com.

540
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 2: I was able to find the full album on YouTube.

541
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 2: I was streaming it there. I'll include it on the

542
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 2: post for this episode at simmutamusic dot com. But it

543
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 2: sounded really cool to me. I was really enjoying this album.

544
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 3: Well, I will say, as a licensed and accredited progtologist

545
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 3: that this is really good stuff. You know. It has

546
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 3: some elements that will sound familiar from a lot of

547
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 3: the sort of heavy psych of the late sixties early seventies,

548
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 3: things that will remind you of like Blue Cheer, Iron Butterfly,

549
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 3: but it also very much has its own sound. I

550
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 3: like it.

551
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, the last track on the album, though, is a

552
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 2: twenty minute percussion instrumental piece, so just be ready for that.

553
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 2: But you know that's the last track on the album.

554
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: By the end, you're already won over or you stopped listening.

555
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 2: I was looking at some of the liner notes on

556
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 2: this album and I noticed that they are dubbed. In

557
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 2: the liner notes, the band is dubbed as Japan's water Children,

558
00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 2: I guess owing back to the Kappa theme on Oh.

559
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 3: Oh Like the Cop. But the monster, the water monster

560
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 3: we've talked about that reaches up what was it? It

561
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 3: reaches up through your anus and removes your liver.

562
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and causes the body to bloat in all you know,

563
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: a spirit a monster of drowning, a rural folk belief

564
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: in Japan. And there's actually the cover art for this

565
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 2: album is a representation of that monster.

566
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Speaker 3: So I will say one of my main complaints about

567
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 3: this movie is that the rest of the cast does

568
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 3: not survive longer to sort of fill it out with

569
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 3: their with their different personalities, because very quickly this movie

570
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 3: kind of narrows it down to a to a small

571
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 3: core of characters who survived to the end. I kind

572
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 3: of wish we got to see more of the salvage

573
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 3: slash heist crew. Some of these characters only have a

574
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 3: couple of lines before they get iced.

575
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Captain Bancho seems great. I mean he's

576
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: he's got all this charisma. He's such a weird cat.

577
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: I want to see more of him. But yeah, he doesn't.

578
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: He doesn't last too long. It's like if if you

579
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: had that whole rag tag bunch in I don't know,

580
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: a film like like Aliens, you know, and you just

581
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: wiped them all out within a few minutes. And then

582
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 2: you know, Aliens does wipe them all out, but it

583
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 2: takes its time.

584
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it gives you a taste of them first. Yeah,

585
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 3: and then by the time there is a massive attack

586
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 3: and many of them are killed, like you really have

587
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 3: started to cherish the characters who do survive, and so,

588
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 3: like you know Vasquez by that point, you know Hudson

589
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 3: by that point.

590
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

591
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: But in this one, like there's scenes later where Brooklyn

592
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 2: is talking about like he's reminiscing about banshow and we're like, oh, yeah,

593
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 2: ban Show. He seemed interesting. Too bad he died like

594
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: five minutes into the film.

595
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, So about the other characters in this crew. There

596
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 3: is one who is played by an actress named Aya

597
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 3: in Joji, who is depending on It sounded like there

598
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 3: were different parts where she was either being called Babe

599
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 3: or Babe in the English translation. I feel like I

600
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 3: heard both, but they anyway, I should explain, all of

601
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 3: the thieves have like cute nicknames that start with B.

602
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 3: So it's like band show Brooklyn, Baybay, Boxer, Boomerang, Bombay.

603
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 3: But I think Bombay is not like the city Bombay.

604
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 3: It is like bomb Bay as in on an airplane.

605
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 4: M Okay.

606
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 3: That's all in the English version. I'm not sure how

607
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 3: that'll translates in the Japanese. But anyway. Bebe, one of

608
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 3: the main thieves, is played by Aya en Joji, who

609
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 3: is a Japanese film and TV actress. She was born

610
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 3: in nineteen sixty. I don't recognize a lot from her filmography,

611
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 3: but she's still working as of recent years. She's done

612
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 3: a lot of stuff in this She plays this character Bebe,

613
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: who's kind of a no nonsense cyber thief with like

614
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 3: an implant. She's got sort of a cyber eye, and

615
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 3: it seems like she is in a leadership role in

616
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 3: this gang. She might be like second in command under

617
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 3: Captain Banshow I.

618
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 4: Think, yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

619
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, but anyway, looking around through her filmography, it looks

620
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 3: like another one of the big things that n Joji

621
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 3: did was a TV series in the nineties called gto

622
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 3: col and Great Teacher Onie Zuka. Uh And I just

623
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 3: want to read the description quote. One Zuka, a former delinquent,

624
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 3: finds himself in the role of a high school teacher,

625
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 3: facing students who behave just as he used to. Using

626
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 3: unusual methods, he manages to reach through to his students

627
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 3: and help them with their problems.

628
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 4: Delightful.

629
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 3: I know I've seen an exact version of the story before,

630
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 3: but I can't remember what it was. Is that what

631
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 3: happens in the principal?

632
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 4: Oh? Wait?

633
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 2: Is that the principle is that the one with what's

634
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 2: his name? Tom? Not Tom? He's got a Bearringer in it,

635
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 2: Tom Berenger.

636
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 3: Bearringer could be Tom Behringer. He was like, I was

637
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 3: a sniper.

638
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's that kind of Maybe I'm thinking of

639
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: a different film then that one. It's like he's like

640
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 2: a former Special Forces guy who comes in and like

641
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: fights back against the punk kids, you know. It's kind

642
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 2: of a Hell City Hell School film from I guess

643
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 2: probably the nineties or the early two thousands.

644
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 3: Okay, I guess I've never seen it. I think maybe

645
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 3: I saw commercials for it on TV when they were

646
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 3: going to like play it on TNT or whatever.

647
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, the idea of like the former troubled

648
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 2: student becoming the teacher who reaches out the troubled kids,

649
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: I feel like that's a common enough trope, but it's

650
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: in the sort of film that I either don't see

651
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: or certainly don't remember.

652
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you could look at that kind of like

653
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 3: the role of the gun Head Machine itself in this story.

654
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 3: You know, he's got experience from the past where he

655
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 3: didn't do so well, and then the Gunhead Machine sort

656
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 3: of shepherds the humans through their final conflict with the

657
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 3: Chiron five.

658
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I guess.

659
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 3: I'm reaching here. Okay. I was just looking at a

660
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 3: couple more of the actors from the main crew. You've

661
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 3: got a guy named James Brewster Thompson who plays a

662
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 3: character named Barabbas also gets killed very quickly in the movie.

663
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 3: But this guy was an actor and a competitive judo practitioner.

664
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 3: It looks like He was also in the movie Lion

665
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 3: Heart with Jean Claude Van dam Okay, and then I'll

666
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 3: give a shout out to Jay Kabira who plays Bombay.

667
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 3: Kabira was also so Japanese actor, born in nineteen sixty

668
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 3: two in Okinawa. Looks like Gunhead was his first movie.

669
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 3: He's still acting. Don't recognize anything from his IMDb, but

670
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 3: he provides some nice levity in the first third of

671
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 3: this movie.

672
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember him being kind of a fun care

673
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: another fun character that died too soon. Yeah, all right, well,

674
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 2: let's get into the plot of this film. It begins

675
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 2: with that beautiful toe hoo title screen, which, like we

676
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: said already, just is beautiful and invites you in. It

677
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 2: gleams like the sun.

678
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 3: It's gorgeous. I'm salivating, My brain is salivating. But anyway,

679
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 3: that is a short prelude to what in this film

680
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 3: is a I'm just going to say, a ridiculous amount

681
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 3: of opening exposition and backstory. You get opening text, you

682
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 3: get voiceover, narration, you get all kinds of stuff. But

683
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 3: I think we should actually go over the open texts

684
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 3: because that will set the scene for the world in

685
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 3: which this movie takes place and we can comment as

686
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 3: we go on. But the first thing you see is

687
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 3: you know, you're getting I think the first thing is

688
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 3: just on a black screen and you see text that says.

689
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: In the early twenty thirties, Mankind discovered a new substance,

690
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 3: text Mexium, which enabled the entire world to be controlled

691
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 3: by a new generation of supercomputers. Now, this text mexium

692
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 3: is a major plot point, and I love it.

693
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love a good fake element in a sci

694
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 2: fi picture. I mean, whether you're talking about unobtainium or

695
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: what have you. But but text mexium has to be

696
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 2: the absolute best I have ever heard. I mean, maybe

697
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: the creators of this were not as familiar with text mes,

698
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 2: you know, the American slash Mexican culinary tradition. But it

699
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 2: also seems impossible because text mes has itself kind of

700
00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 2: spread around the world.

701
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were trying kind to make sense of this name.

702
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 3: Why is it called tex Mexium? Now we know there

703
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 3: are some plot elements in the movie that involve Texas,

704
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 3: maybe as like its own country, And there are also

705
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 3: mechs as in mechs, which I guess you could shorten

706
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 3: to ex So is that I don't know, is that

707
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 3: how it's coming together here?

708
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 4: I guess I don't know.

709
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 2: I think maybe it's just an ultimately an example of

710
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: something that has more appeal to like non Americans or

711
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 2: even non English speakers, Like it's I mean, and this

712
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 2: goes both ways. You see this, of course plenty of

713
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 2: times with where American creators or English speaking creators take

714
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 2: something that they think sounds cool in another language and

715
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 2: applies it to their fantastic visions. So you know, it

716
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: goes both ways. Ye, but yeah, Text Mexium initially made

717
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: me laugh, though after a while I kind of got

718
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,439
Speaker 2: over the humor of it and kind of like bought

719
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 2: into it. It's like, okay, it's text mexium, it's important stuff.

720
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 3: Well I never got over the humor, but I love

721
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 3: it anyway.

722
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, but okay.

723
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 3: The opening text goes on. It says, because of the

724
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 3: danger for its misuse, supplies of tex mexium were kept

725
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 3: under heavy guard at the hyper nuclear facilities that power

726
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 3: every major city. At the same time, Mankind's continued depletion

727
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 3: of Earth's natural resources has resulted in a scarcity of

728
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 3: the materials necessary to build the all powerful computers. Conductive

729
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 3: plastics and computer chips are more valuable than gold, and

730
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 3: a new breed of treasure hunter has evolved to fill

731
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 3: the demand, seeking machine parts lost or discarded by earlier generations.

732
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 3: These soldiers of fortune will brave any danger in their

733
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 3: quest for chips, even the forbidden zones.

734
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 2: And that already is awesome. Like, I was instantly interested

735
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 2: after absorbing this opening text, and ultimately I think this

736
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 2: is one of the things that this movie does really well,

737
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 2: Like it establishes an interesting sci fi world.

738
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 3: Oh yes, these renegade thieves rummaging through the trash of

739
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 3: the wars of ages past to find computer parts that

740
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: can be repurposed into the technology that we now need

741
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 3: to run places like I guess Japan and Texas. Okay,

742
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 3: so you think after all that you're done with the

743
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 3: opening exposition, but nope. After that you get voiceover narration

744
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 3: as we pan overshots of a flaming battlefield full of

745
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 3: machine wreckage and dead bodies in power armor, and the

746
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 3: narration goes in the year two thousand and five on

747
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 3: a tiny volcanic island designated simply eight Jo. It's the

748
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 3: number eight Jo, located one thousand miles from the Asian coast,

749
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 3: the Cybor Tech Corporation. That's Cybor with an oar. The

750
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 3: Cybor Tech Corporation built the world's first fully self contained

751
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 3: industrial complex. Its purpose to manufacture the most advanced robots

752
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 3: ever known. At the heart of this complex a computer

753
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 3: more advanced, more powerful than any other that came before,

754
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 3: the Chirn five. Chiron five controlled every aspect of its world.

755
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 3: For twenty years, everything appeared to run smoothly. A handful

756
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,240
Speaker 3: of technicians and their families were stationed on the island

757
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 3: as custodians, but the cruel fact was human beings were unnecessary.

758
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 3: On July fourth, in the year twenty twenty five, Chiron

759
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 3: five declared war on the world. The Allies dispatched a

760
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 3: gun head battalion to eight Jo The Great Robot War began.

761
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 3: Level three eight nine, Chiron's last line of defense air robot.

762
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 3: I think I got all that as a direct quote. Now,

763
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 3: we have not been told anything about gun heads before this.

764
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 3: This is like the opening narration. But the gun head

765
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 3: battalion is there. And then we get some more texts

766
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 3: that tells us where at this three hundred and seventy

767
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 3: third day of battle, and we see this giant cyber

768
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 3: tank crashed through some facility wall, and you've got heavily

769
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 3: armed ground troops apparently human, marching in all around it.

770
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 3: The tank, I believe is one of the gun head units,

771
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 3: and the text on the screen tells us that on

772
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,919
Speaker 3: this day, the beleaguered gunhead battalion pushed ahead for one

773
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 3: final attack, and we see how it all went down.

774
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 3: It's mech versus mech. So you've got these different types

775
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 3: of giant armored tank type vehicles advancing on each other,

776
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 3: exchanging fire. So it's the human allied gun head tanks,

777
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 3: which look kind of like the giant Skynet kill tanks,

778
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 3: like the Hunter Killer models from the future and Terminator,

779
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 3: but they're more complicated than that. They've got this combination

780
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 3: of legs and wheels and a bunch of different guns

781
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 3: pointing off of them in all different directions. And those

782
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 3: are the gun heads. Those are the good guys, and

783
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 3: they're against the aerobot, which I was trying to think

784
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 3: of how to describe. It has a characteristic front facing

785
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 3: triangle orientation of three glowing eye spots that shoot energy beams,

786
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 3: and then on top of that it has these arching

787
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 3: claw arms that hang down in front of the vehicle,

788
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 3: sort of like a drooping sauropod neck. So imagine a

789
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 3: metal brachiosaurus with multiple necks and heads that has this

790
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 3: triangle of blaster eyes.

791
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 4: Yeah.

792
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 2: These for anyone out there who is who follows like

793
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 2: mech fiction and Japanese science fiction, these this sort of

794
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: design will look familiar because you've seen variations on this

795
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:39,439
Speaker 2: theme plenty of times. You know, they're beautiful looking, though,

796
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 2: especially Gunhead, Like Gunhead is just this really well designed,

797
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 2: cool looking sci fi tank, and arrow Bot is this

798
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: other sci fi tank. It's maybe less interesting looking, but

799
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 2: different looking, so we can tell them apart in battle,

800
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 2: and you know, and also kind of cool good.

801
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 3: Joyce with the three eyes in the triangle, it helps

802
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 3: you to distinguish which one is which when you know

803
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 3: you're seeing the models clash at each other.

804
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 4: And boy did they clash. Oh yeah, they clash a lot.

805
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they're shooting at each other. One of the

806
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 3: gun heads sort of looks like it has a gun

807
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 3: that's blasting highly focused jets of steam. I don't know

808
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 3: if that's what it was supposed to be, but if so,

809
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 3: that's that's a cool idea. And things are not looking

810
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 3: so hot for the gun Heads in this battle. The

811
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 3: aerobot is a tough cookie, and in the end it

812
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 3: seems like the aerobot smashes the Gunhead battalion and the

813
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 3: human allied forces. And then finally you get your title

814
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 3: screen just says gun Head in the in the Van

815
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 3: halenesque kind of font.

816
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

817
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 2: So ultimately this is all still set up. We haven't

818
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 2: even really gotten in proper movie yet. This film spends

819
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: a lot of time prefacing the core plot. But like

820
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: I say, the world creation in this film is one

821
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: of its best attributes. It's really it's, in my opinion,

822
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 2: really wonderful. It takes a bit to set up. They

823
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 2: use all these different gimmicks to do it, but the

824
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 2: result is a perfectly grimy cyberpunk future set in the

825
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 2: aftermath of a supercomputer seemingly failed rebellion against the human race.

826
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 2: And I guess, to a certain extent, the human race

827
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: is sort of ambiguous victory over the computer threat. You know,

828
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 2: it's kind of a it's kind of a rough, inconclusive

829
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 2: ending to a terrible conflict. Now, when I say cyberpunk,

830
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: I should stress that this is cyberpunk in the Japanese sense,

831
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 2: which certainly has a lot in common with the Western

832
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 2: concept of cyberpunk, shares many of the same elements. You

833
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 2: see a lot of interplay between the two. Likenk American

834
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 2: and Western cyberpunk may in many cases be inspired partially

835
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 2: by Japanese models. Likewise, Japanese cyberpunk will draw inspiration from

836
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 2: from key pieces of Western cyberpunk sci fi. But Japanese

837
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 2: cyberpunk is sort of in general more hard industrial and

838
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 2: often features a more disturbing and even nightmare interpretation of

839
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: human machine synthesis.

840
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, to oversimplify, I might say that where American cyberpunk

841
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 3: is more likely to have laptop bikers, latex bodysuits, and

842
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 3: glossy dusters, perfect emo hair, Japanese cyberpunk is more likely

843
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 3: to be choking on eruptions of metallic robot tumors.

844
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 4: Yeah.

845
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 2: It can definitely lean more into body horror and kind

846
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 2: of a surreal nature. So some of the key examples

847
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 2: of Japanese cyberpunk include nineteen eighty nine's Tetsuo the Iron Man,

848
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 2: which is a very kind of Lynchian Cronenburger kind of a.

849
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 3: Film, very metal tumors.

850
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 2: Again, Yeah, Akira the anime from nineteen eighty eight, and

851
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: then another name that often comes up is chosen Fukuoi's films,

852
00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 2: particularly nine sixty four Pinocchio from nineteen ninety one. That's

853
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 2: one I've seen, that one. That one is also wild,

854
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 2: very very similar in tone to Tetsuo the Iron Man.

855
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 2: But other films that are also noted that I haven't

856
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 2: seen include nineteen eighty six Death Powder in nineteen eighty

857
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 2: two's Burst City. I wanted to mention those because those,

858
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 2: of course, are two examples that pre date Gunhead, whereas

859
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 2: we have this weird situation where we can't say that

860
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: the Gunhead was inspired by Tetsuo the Iron Man because

861
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 2: it came out the same year and it only comes

862
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: out a year after a Kira. So it seems to

863
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 2: be a film that was very much a part of

864
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 2: this this sci fi esthetic movement in Japanese media at

865
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 2: the time, a.

866
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 3: Very nineteen eighty eight eighty nine cyberpunk zeitgeist.

867
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: You might say, yeah, so there's strong elements of Japanese

868
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 2: cyberpunk in gun Head's visual universe, as well as elements

869
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 2: of the plot. It's difficult to really sum up Japanese

870
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: cyberpunk as a whole, because of course it's not a

871
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 2: whole thing composed of individual films and individual works by

872
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: individual creators and media companies and toy companies, et cetera.

873
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 2: But you can suffice to say it has its own

874
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 2: elements and themes that stand apart from Western cyberpunk.

875
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 3: Right of course, with all the continuous back and forth

876
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 3: cross fertilization. Yeah, So to get back to the movie,

877
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 3: picking up after the title screen, you might think we're

878
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 3: done with narration, but nope. At this point I was

879
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 3: literally laughing out loud because there was more voiceover narration.

880
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 3: So we get like the camera sailing over some clouds

881
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 3: and we're watching lightning flash out of the fog, and

882
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 3: then we hear for thirteen years, a deep silence has

883
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 3: surrounded the island. It has existed under a veil of mystery,

884
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 3: almost forgotten by the world until now. So now I

885
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 3: think we're finally into the plot.

886
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and ultimately watching this, you know, if you're watching

887
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: this for the first time, you might be relieved that

888
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 2: the narration ends. But looking back on it, I kind

889
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 2: of wish it had universal narration throughout. I missed the

890
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 2: narrator telling me what was happening.

891
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 3: So, yeah, we're with this futuristic airplane that is soaring

892
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 3: through the Gauntlet of thunder, and we see that the

893
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 3: plane is called the Mary Ann and then we're inside

894
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 3: meeting the crew. They try to do some intros. Honestly, again,

895
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 3: most of these characters get killed pretty fast, so you

896
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 3: don't have a lot of time to get to know them.

897
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 3: Some of them I really can't identify much about them,

898
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 3: but some I can. So you got Captain Banchow, that's

899
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 3: the guy we mentioned. Mickey Curtis, who is He's great.

900
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 3: He's a rowdy rock and roll air wizard wearing a

901
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 3: leather bomber hat with it with a light seasoning of

902
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 3: George Carlin.

903
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 4: Sauce I would say, yeah, yeah.

904
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 3: And then you've got Brooklyn. He's gonna end up being

905
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 3: one of the main heroes of the movie. I guess

906
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 3: in the end the main heroes are Brooklyn and Sergeant

907
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 3: Nim But Brooklyn again is played by Masa hero Takashima,

908
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 3: and they identify Brooklyn immediately as a mechanic. When we

909
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 3: first meet him, he is flying the plane because Captain

910
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 3: Banshow has apparently bullied him into flying the plane. But

911
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 3: it's clear that Brooklyn is not supposed to be piloting

912
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 3: the plane and does not feel good about it. He's

913
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 3: having some kind of severe anxiety about piloting, and this

914
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 3: will go on to be a major plot point throughout,

915
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 3: and Bancho is sort of gently harassing him. I think

916
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 3: he's joking that, like, hey, if you get air sick

917
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 3: and throw up on my plane, I will make you

918
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 3: eat your vomit, which is cute. But Brooklyn is kind

919
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 3: of a spiky haired, initially taciturn young man in sunglasses

920
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 3: with a scarf over his face, and he is holding

921
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 3: a carrot in his mouth like a cigar.

922
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, which I get kind of maybe this is

923
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: a bugs bunny kind of thing. I don't know, but yes,

924
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 2: it becomes clear that Brooklyn loves carrots. He is perhaps

925
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 2: growing carrots on the airplane. I'm not certain on that.

926
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 3: There's one part where we see a giant colander full

927
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 3: of enormous carrots.

928
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they brought him at any rate, Like carrots

929
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 2: are important. I mean, if you have carrots in the

930
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 2: post apocalyptic or semi post apocalyptic cyberpunk world, him eat them.

931
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,240
Speaker 2: You know, they're good for you yeah.

932
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 3: Oh, and Brooklyn keeps playing with a revolver underneath his coat.

933
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 3: It's like when you know, you know those guys who

934
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 3: like they play with a knife. They've got a pocket

935
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 3: knife and they just fiddle with it a lot and

936
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 3: open it and close it and stuff. But he does

937
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 3: that but with a gun.

938
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

939
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 2: Bancho is quick to remind him that this is bad luck.

940
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, like that that's the problem. It's bad luck. And

941
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 3: then of course, also we meet Babe played by Aya

942
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 3: and Joji, who is in some she's some kind of

943
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 3: leadership role. She's like the lieutenant. I think she does

944
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 3: not tolerate any horsing around. She might be the most

945
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 3: like just straight to business character. And then you meet

946
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 3: Barabas that's played by James Brewster Thompson, the judo guy.

947
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,479
Speaker 3: He seems to be like the tough guy, the heavy

948
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 3: gun hero of the crew. You meet Bombay, who is Jacobira.

949
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 3: He is I would call him the goober of the bunch.

950
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 3: Like he's dressed in a funny way. He's covered in

951
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 3: peace is of flare, like he's got a hat that

952
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 3: studded with all kinds of little pins. There was one

953
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 3: part where I paused it to try to see if

954
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 3: I could recognize what any of the pins are. But

955
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 3: they're I don't know, you know, like pins you would

956
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 3: wear on your lapel. But he's got tons of them

957
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 3: all over his hat. And then he's wearing a duster coat,

958
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 3: and inside the coat there are like a thousand spoons

959
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 3: or if I don't know what they were, some little

960
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 3: metallic objects just dangling inside his coat flaps. But anyway,

961
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 3: I was wondering, what do you call this character type?

962
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 3: It seems like something that's an archetype that's common enough

963
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 3: you need a word for it. It is the character

964
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 3: who is the funny, cowardly but somehow still lovable complainer,

965
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 3: very much like Bill Paxton and Aliens.

966
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, or to a even more comedic extreme. You

967
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 2: had the sidekick of El Santo in the Dracula movie.

968
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 2: We discussed in a recent episode.

969
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, what was his name, Cabayo or something.

970
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 2: It was, I know it was parakeet in Spanish?

971
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 3: What was it periico? Yes, yeah, And then there were

972
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 3: some other ones. There is Boomerang, who I think she

973
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 3: does like radar and tracking stuff. And then there's a guy. Yeah,

974
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 3: there's a guy named Boxer, who we don't really get

975
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,240
Speaker 3: to know very well at all. I think maybe he's

976
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 3: I can't remember if he's the same guy who you

977
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 3: see with a bunch of grenades on him. But there's

978
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 3: one thing I noticed on the Marianne. The've almost got

979
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 3: like a mess hall on the plane in the Marianne,

980
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 3: and they've got a refrigerator full of guns, just like

981
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 3: in split second.

982
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, I noticed that's that's an interesting touch. I don't

983
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 2: know why that is. It just seems like you're dealing

984
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 2: with a bunch of props, especially in kind of a

985
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 2: cyberpunk or dystopian future scenario, why not just use that

986
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 2: old refrigerator for gun storage.

987
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 3: So the Marianne is closing in on this island eight Jo,

988
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 3: and we know the thieves are there to recover those

989
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 3: conductive plastics and computer chips that we read about in

990
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 3: the opening text, and the plain spots giant complex with

991
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 3: the landing pad on top of this three hundred story

992
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 3: central tower, and they go into land on top of

993
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 3: the tower. And where I noticed that the Marianne is

994
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 3: a fixed wing VTOL aircraft because it doesn't have to

995
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 3: do a horizontal runway landing. It just kind of jets

996
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 3: down like a helicopter.

997
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, ultimately it benefits from being a model airplane. Yeah,

998
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 2: they could despite how it looks, they can just make

999
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 2: it land however they need it to land. I mean,

1000
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 2: but it's an impressive model. The models look good in

1001
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 2: this film.

1002
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess you got the Harrier jets and stuff,

1003
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 3: so maybe this is a descendant of that sort of thing.

1004
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1005
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 2: I mean it's a specialized technology that it's quite complicated.

1006
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, this film, I mean, this particular airplane does

1007
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 2: not really look like a Harrier jet or an ospray

1008
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 2: or anything like that.

1009
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 4: So I don't know.

1010
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 2: It's kind of a mystery how it's achieving this. But yeah,

1011
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 2: sci fi, you let it go.

1012
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 3: Right. So they're doing all their initial scanning and assessment,

1013
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 3: they pop out of the belly of the plane, like

1014
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 3: coming down through a hatch. They don't even have a

1015
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 3: ladder or stairs or anything. Why is that, Like, how

1016
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 3: do they get back into the plane? They just drop

1017
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 3: out through this hatch in the bottom of the plane.

1018
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 3: And they already know, of course about the computer and

1019
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 3: everything on the island. They know there's a Chiron five.

1020
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 3: They're talking about it, so they're not in the dark here.

1021
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 3: I think they know what they're getting into. And while

1022
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 3: they're scoping the place out, they see a crashed helicopter

1023
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 3: on fire. They look at it through binoculars and see

1024
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 3: that it is a helicopter of the Texas Air Rangers.

1025
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 3: So I suppose their jurisdiction includes the Pacific Ocean, and

1026
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 3: they don't quite know what to make of this, but

1027
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 3: they're like, oh okay, now. Bombay, in his role as

1028
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 3: the Hudson of the movie, the Bill Paxton of the movie,

1029
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 3: is of course afraid. Once he sees the crashed helicopter,

1030
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 3: He's like, let's go to Borneo. I got a great

1031
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 3: tip on a club medsite plastic he wouldn't believe. But anyway,

1032
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 3: A portion of the crew breaks off to head inside,

1033
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 3: while I believe Boomerang and Boxer stay up by the aircraft,

1034
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,439
Speaker 3: and pretty much as soon as they are left alone,

1035
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 3: they're like immediately killed unceremoniously. The defenses of the Chiron

1036
00:53:58,520 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 3: five just slaughter them.

1037
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, because even though the supercomputer here was seemingly defeated

1038
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 2: or there was enough of a stalemate where it's no

1039
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 2: longer a threat, it still has a threat to the

1040
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 2: outside world anyway. It still has these very active self

1041
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 2: defense mechanisms that are quite lethal.

1042
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 3: Right. So, the breakoff part of the crew is wandering

1043
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 3: around inside the facility. They're trying to figure out how

1044
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 3: to get to the chips they're looking for, and Captain

1045
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 3: Banchow is musing about whiskey. He says, it sure would

1046
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 3: be nice to have some of that two thousand and

1047
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 3: one whiskey right now. I hear it was shipped here

1048
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 3: a long time ago, used to make the robots dance.

1049
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 3: So he claims he's going to find some. But I

1050
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 3: wonder if that will come back later in the plot.

1051
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 4: Oh, you know, just my.

1052
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 3: So the infiltration continues. While they're wandering around in the facility,

1053
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 3: there is a wonderful Pepsi machine jump scare, and I

1054
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 3: will say this is a huge improvement on the standard

1055
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 3: cat in a closet jump scare, Bombay gets freaked out

1056
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 3: when a Pepsi machine lunges out of him, lunges at

1057
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 3: him out of the dark, and they start talking about this.

1058
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 3: They're like, wow, robo Cola, and Brooklyn says, robo cola

1059
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 3: Pepsi type. It was produced in twenty twenty three on

1060
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 3: Island eight jo it's precious, and the reference to it

1061
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 3: is precious. It actually reminds me of a very poignant

1062
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 3: scene in Cormick McCarthy's The Road where they drink a

1063
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,720
Speaker 3: scavenged Coca cola and they talk about how good it does.

1064
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 2: I think about that every time I think about having

1065
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 2: a coca cola. Yeah, or I guess in this case

1066
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 2: of pepsi, well, you.

1067
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 3: Think how much better it would be if if there

1068
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 3: were there were nothing this sweet in the world anymore?

1069
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you haven't had one in a while,

1070
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 2: there's nothing that sweet in the world, yeah, anymore? Right, Yeah,

1071
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 2: so yeah, imagine that the sweetest thing you've had is

1072
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 2: a carrot, and then you're going from that to robocola

1073
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 2: pepsi type. I also love that this eyes or maybe

1074
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 2: more than imply, it's explicitly states that pepsi in the

1075
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 2: future is made in the same facility.

1076
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 4: As the robots mex kill people.

1077
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, robots to kill people, but also this extremely

1078
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 2: volatile you know, super element tex Mexia or mex.

1079
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 4: Texia, tex mex mexium, tex mexium.

1080
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,879
Speaker 3: Yes, that's a good point, but I was also like,

1081
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 3: does this robo cola. Does this mean it's for the

1082
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 3: robots to drink or is it just robo cola like

1083
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 3: the monoail cafe in North Haverbrook, you know, is it

1084
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 3: just like everybody's got robot fever? So you know when

1085
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 3: you go into the store, everything is called that, it's

1086
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 3: you know, robo glue, and I don't know what people

1087
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 3: buy in the future.

1088
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 4: Robo chips.

1089
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just took it to be the The cola

1090
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 2: delivery system is robo cola, and this one has pepsi,

1091
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 2: so it's pepsi type. It feels good looking back. I

1092
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 2: think I'm correct here, Joe, And this may be the

1093
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 2: last element of the film that I've fully understood. Of course, yes,

1094
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 2: kept rolling on.

1095
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.

1096
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 3: So the team starts going down an elevator and Brooklyn

1097
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 3: suggests because he realizes that part of the robot war

1098
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 3: took place here, He's like, hey, what if we were

1099
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,760
Speaker 3: to harvest gun head parts here instead of chiron chips?

1100
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 3: He says gun heads are very valuable, but a Captain

1101
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 3: Banchow says, no, we are here for the chips. We're

1102
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 3: here for the conductive plastic. We do not want gun

1103
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 3: head parts.

1104
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 4: Very sensible.

1105
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 3: Yes, Brooklyn and Bancho have a face off here where

1106
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 3: Banchow he it's kind of like the part in Jaws

1107
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 3: where Quinn crushes his narragantic can and then Hooper crushes

1108
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:40,919
Speaker 3: his styrofoam cup. But instead it's that Banchow pops open

1109
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 3: his cool ancient cigarillo case and then Brooklyn opens up

1110
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 3: his cigarette case, except it's full of carrot sticks.

1111
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1112
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 3: But then right after this light moment, there is a

1113
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 3: disaster because something attacks them in the elevator. I think

1114
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 3: it's the defenses of the Chiron five ban show. Captain

1115
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 3: Banchow are our lovely rock and roll fly boy. He

1116
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 3: is killed, Barabbas is killed. When Barabbas gets like a

1117
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 3: pipe shoved through his guts, Bancho just gets dropped down

1118
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 3: a three hundred story shaft. And now the original team

1119
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 3: is down to just Brooklyn, Babe and Bombay. And after

1120
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 3: the attack, they immediately pretty much meet Brenda Baki, the

1121
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 3: Texas Air Ranger Sergeant Nim and Babe immediately realizes who

1122
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 3: she is. She you know, knows, okay, this is a

1123
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 3: ranger from the crashed helicopter, and Brenda Baki plays her

1124
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 3: like she's just you know, too cool for school. She's

1125
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 3: sitting there with a major injury. I think she has

1126
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 3: also been attacked by Chiron five's defense programs. But she's

1127
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 3: just sitting there, like bleeding, lying against a wall, and

1128
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 3: she's got a cigarette in her mouth and she's like

1129
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 3: got a light. So it's that kind of thing.

1130
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's a cool, cool cucumber.

1131
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 3: One thing I noted that I thought was interesting she

1132
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 3: has some kind of medical spray. So there's a wound

1133
00:58:56,600 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 3: on her body, and after Brooklyn he helps her like

1134
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,439
Speaker 3: I think, unstick herself from some kind of thing she's

1135
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 3: like stabbed into on the wall. She just heals herself

1136
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 3: by spraying something out of a wd foty type can

1137
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 3: all over her wound, and then she seems fine. And

1138
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 3: isn't there I think there is first aid spray in

1139
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 3: the Resident Evil games? Isn't that the medical thing you

1140
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 3: get in there?

1141
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 2: I haven't played a lot of those, but I know

1142
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 2: I've encountered this sort of thing in other pieces of

1143
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 2: futuristic media, the idea that there's some sort of spray

1144
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 2: or goo that can just be applied to the wound

1145
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 2: that does some sort of advanced healing.

1146
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. So anyway, Nim reveals her backstory. She is there

1147
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 3: on the island chasing a biodroid that went berserk in

1148
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 3: Texas and killed its colleagues at a hyper nuclear facility.

1149
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 3: And she has tracked the droid here to eight to

1150
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 3: Island eight Jo, but kyn five crashed her helicopter, killed her,

1151
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 3: her partner or her partners, her colleagues, and now she's

1152
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 3: all on her own. But she still determined to catch

1153
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 3: that droid.

1154
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and unfortunately narration guy is not here to tell

1155
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 2: us exactly what a biodroid is. But when we finally

1156
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 2: get better, looks at it like there's no question, like

1157
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 2: this is a this is a very Japanese cyberpunk creature.

1158
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 2: It's you know, this kind of like bioorganic mass of

1159
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 2: what might be flesh, what might be mushroom, what might

1160
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 2: be mechanical parts, So you know, you get this this

1161
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 2: biomechanical confusion from it. That is I don't know, you

1162
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 2: could compare it to geeker, but not very gegery, very

1163
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 2: like there's a very based in Japanese cyberpunk. And it

1164
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 2: looks good, it looks creepy.

1165
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 3: I love the biodroid. I mean the biodroid is a

1166
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 3: is a humanoid shaped engine oil coated nightmare with binoculars

1167
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 3: for a head.

1168
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it is.

1169
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 2: It is at the heart of Japanese cyberpunk because it's

1170
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 2: not just like the Western idea of becoming a machine,

1171
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 2: you know, will damage your soul. It's more becoming a machine. Well, yeah,

1172
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 2: it'll damage your soul, but it'll also just make you

1173
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 2: really gross. We'll do gross things to your body.

1174
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 3: Right, Like I could imagine the biodroids human friends might

1175
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 3: be like, hey, you know you smell bad and you

1176
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 3: are covered in engine grease? Could you take a shower

1177
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:17,919
Speaker 3: before you hang out with us? And it would say,

1178
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 3: why would I need to do that? I am perfectly

1179
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 3: lubricated for maximum optimized efficiency.

1180
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1181
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 2: So on paper, at this point, the plot's rolling pretty well.

1182
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 2: You know, we have this fabulous setting, we have this

1183
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 2: we have outside an outside force here, we have this

1184
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 2: outside enemy. So we have multiple pieces on the table.

1185
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 3: Right now, they continue their journey. Nim is looking for

1186
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 3: the biodroid and the three remaining thieves are looking for

1187
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 3: the computer chips. But then there is a there are

1188
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 3: a number of attacks. There is an attack by sound

1189
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 3: activated minds that are part of the Chiron five's defense system,

1190
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 3: and they get attacked by the biodroid, and Bombay is

1191
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 3: killed by the Biodroid when he is knocked onto a

1192
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 3: hook dangling from a chain in the room of the

1193
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 3: Lament Configuration, which is in the Chiron five facility for

1194
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 3: some reason. But eventually Brooklyn, Babe and Nim make their

1195
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 3: way into the heart of the Chiron five level three p.

1196
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 3: Ninety the Chiron Dome, and I loved this set. So

1197
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 3: there was like a control room full of computer monitors

1198
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 3: with just skeletons sitting at them. I guess these are

1199
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 3: the former custodians of the facility who have been killed,

1200
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 3: but their bodies are still sitting there at their workstations.

1201
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 3: And then inside the core itself there is a lime

1202
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 3: green lake and there's a vial of text mexium, this

1203
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 3: precious substance at the Chiron Core. I believe the Biodroid

1204
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 3: brought it here. This maybe something I'm misunderstanding, but I

1205
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 3: was trying really hard to follow. I think the Biodroid

1206
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:53,919
Speaker 3: stole the text mexium from the hyper nuclear facility in

1207
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 3: Texas and for some reason brought it here to Island eight.

1208
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 3: Jo to put into the core of the Chiron five.

1209
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 3: Maybe because the Chiron five needed text mexium for some reason.

1210
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess it's the power source or something, right,

1211
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 2: like it needs it to fully activate itself again, right.

1212
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 3: And then while they're in there in the room, I

1213
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 3: think the biodroid is like swimming around in the like

1214
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 3: it's swimming in the lime green liquid and jumping out

1215
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 3: at them like killer croc. And it ends up knocking

1216
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 3: Babe into the Limeurita lake and that that of course

1217
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 3: is not good for her because obviously no human can

1218
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 3: survive this liquid. But who knows what could come of

1219
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 3: this submergement. And then only Brooklyn and Nim are left.

1220
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 3: It's just down to these two and they start fighting

1221
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 3: over the vial of text mexium. They end up falling

1222
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 3: through a shoot down into some warehouse are There are

1223
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 3: multiple shoot surfing scenes in this movie.

1224
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of shoots, a lot of elevators. Like

1225
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 2: ultimately they again, they do a great job of creating

1226
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 2: this this enormous industrial environment. There's just this other worldly

1227
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 2: world that is the result of supercomputer and its robots

1228
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 2: just doing its own thing without really much concern at all.

1229
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 2: For humans for decades.

1230
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. Now, at some point in here they get attacked

1231
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 3: by the dreaded aerobot with the triangle of three eyes

1232
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 3: and it's coming after them, and I think they escape

1233
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 3: it by going down yet another tube, so tube surfing

1234
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 3: yet again, and at some point when they get to

1235
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 3: the bottom, they are rescued by children. So finally we

1236
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 3: have a couple more human characters. Again, there are two kids.

1237
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 3: They are the only surviving kids of the original humans

1238
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 3: who took care of the Chiron five. So I guess

1239
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 3: maybe their parents or grandparents or whatever were the people

1240
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 3: sitting at those consoles at the heart of the Chiron five.

1241
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 3: And the two kids are named seven and eleven. Seven

1242
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 3: is the younger brother and eleven is the older sister. Now,

1243
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 3: when we first meet them, the kids are could you tell,

1244
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,919
Speaker 3: are they supposed to be dressed as robots like they're

1245
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 3: trying to blend in in the facility, or are they

1246
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 3: just wearing some kind of protective suit.

1247
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't shure on that either, if it was

1248
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 2: environmental gear or what.

1249
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 3: But anyway, Brooklyn and Sergeant Nim get to know these

1250
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 3: two kids, seven and eleven, and they talk about ways

1251
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 3: to escape the island, and they conclude the only way

1252
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 3: to get through the island's defenses is to go through Chiron,

1253
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 3: And so they start salvaging parts from the robot war

1254
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 3: gun head parts because they decide that they need a

1255
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 3: fully functioning gun head in order to defeat the aerobot

1256
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 3: so that they can get through Chiron five to get

1257
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 3: back to their airplane and escape. And Brooklyn thinks that

1258
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 3: he can repair a gun head, but he's very clear

1259
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 3: he needs someone else who can pilot it, because I

1260
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 3: think the implication is that he is still afraid of

1261
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 3: piloting vehicles and maybe one of the kids would have

1262
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 3: to drive it or something.

1263
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's not going to work. Clearly, he has

1264
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 2: to he has to summon all of his courage. He

1265
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 2: has to find a way to not only fix the

1266
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 2: gun head but pilot it feet the aerobot with the

1267
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 2: gun head so that they can escape.

1268
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1269
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 3: And meanwhile, back at the Chiron Core strange things or

1270
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 3: afoot we see some kind of like weird creature busting

1271
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 3: out of the lime green pool and there's a computer

1272
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 3: screen which presumably has just been showing this cybor tech

1273
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 3: screensaver for seven years or however long it's been. Suddenly

1274
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 3: it changes and it says irregular vibration detected, which is

1275
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 3: my favorite Beach Boys song. I'm picking up irregular vibrations,

1276
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 3: and of course that's because it's the biodroid. Mock two,

1277
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 3: we get the new Biodroid reveal, because I think what

1278
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 3: has happened is that the Biodroid somehow absorbed or merged

1279
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 3: with Babe.

1280
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1281
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 2: And this again, this is very Japanese cyberpunk. The idea

1282
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:49,919
Speaker 2: that you could just sort of slip and fall into

1283
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 2: a puddle of cyberpunk and become cyberpunk very good.

1284
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 3: So they end up getting the human characters end up

1285
01:06:56,560 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 3: getting some plot exposition from a computer screen, and I

1286
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 3: think the computer screen is supposed to be the central

1287
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 3: computer of a reactivated gun head. But we learned that

1288
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 3: the Chiron five went dormant after the Robot War in

1289
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 3: order to give humanity the time to develop what it

1290
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 3: would need in order to conquer the entire world, and

1291
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 3: what it needed was text mexium. So I think the

1292
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 3: idea is like, it's like, Okay, I can't win right now.

1293
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 3: I'm just going to settle down and stop fighting, and

1294
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 3: I wait for I don't know this hypernuclear facility in

1295
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 3: Texas or whever to get enough text mexium that I

1296
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 3: can have it stolen and brought to me and then

1297
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 3: I'll take over the world.

1298
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1299
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 2: I mean we kind of discussed this in recent episodes

1300
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 2: of Stuff to Blow your Mind this week about AI, Like,

1301
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 2: if you're any mortal AI, time doesn't matter, you could

1302
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 2: do things like this and be like, well, let's just

1303
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 2: push pause on this war, and once technology is improved,

1304
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 2: I'll steal it and then I will be in a

1305
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 2: better position to win.

1306
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 3: Now, eventually, the Humans part Ways is again. I was

1307
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 3: finding it hard to follow exactly what's going on here,

1308
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 3: but I think Nim and eleven, the older sister, they

1309
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 3: go off on one mission to do something with the

1310
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 3: Chiron core, and then Brooklyn and seven are there trying

1311
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 3: to build, trying to restore the gun head and get

1312
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 3: it working. And of course this movie is, you know,

1313
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 3: like any good movie of this type, it's a good

1314
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:27,679
Speaker 3: scrap fest, so great sets, full of compelling, shattered garbage.

1315
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 3: The characters are crawling over and picking through.

1316
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1317
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 2: I no matter what was going on with the dialogue

1318
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 2: or the plot, I always bought the setting and the

1319
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 2: props and the various robots and robot effects. As Gunhead

1320
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 2: eventually becomes able to talk and have long conversations with

1321
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 2: our hero. There's like one scene where Gunhead is represented

1322
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 2: by just like one of these arms or tentacles of

1323
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 2: Gunhead and he's having a conversation with it, and it

1324
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 2: was a pretty fun scene.

1325
01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:58,919
Speaker 4: I love the practical effects.

1326
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 3: I love what a standup guy Gunhead is. Once he

1327
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,480
Speaker 3: finally starts talking and we get to know him, Gunhead

1328
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 3: is so positive. He's such a good friend. I mean

1329
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 3: it's heartwarming.

1330
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1331
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:13,480
Speaker 3: I also like, while they're doing the Gunhead assembly, Brooklyn

1332
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 3: is still eating carrots, and I'm thinking, how does he

1333
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 3: still have carrots? After all he's been through. Where are

1334
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 3: these carrots coming from?

1335
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 2: I mean, how would he survived this long without carrots?

1336
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 2: I mean he must just have him secreted on his person.

1337
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 2: He's got him like duct taped to his leg and

1338
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 2: stuff underneath his clothing.

1339
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess Brooklyn has all kinds of means for

1340
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:33,560
Speaker 3: getting carrots through customs.

1341
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1342
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 3: But like I said, once the Gunhead is rebuilt, it

1343
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 3: starts talking to Brooklyn and seven and it's this very

1344
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 3: positive presence in the movie, it's just so affirming. It

1345
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 3: really gives you, it really gives them confidence, and it's

1346
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 3: a great friend. But of course this comes down to

1347
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 3: I think one of the character conflicts in the movie,

1348
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 3: which is that Brooklyn is afraid of piloting things, but

1349
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 3: he must face his fears and pilot the gun head.

1350
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 3: Now when that happens, he starts piloting it. And I

1351
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 3: don't even know how to describe all the different ways

1352
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 3: that the gun head moves. Like, the design of these

1353
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 3: robots is beautiful, practical effects work, all the models they

1354
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 3: must have built, I don't know exactly what scale they

1355
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 3: were working, But the movie in a way is kind

1356
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 3: of murky. I mean, like it doesn't give you really

1357
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 3: like clean clear looks at everything, but as much as

1358
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 3: you can see, it looks really good. The models are awesome.

1359
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, the models were great. I think the problem, and

1360
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 2: of the reasons that I wasn't very invested in the

1361
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 2: big battles that take place is that, for one thing,

1362
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 2: it's kind of just like two robot tanks exploding at

1363
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 2: each other and running into each other for what seems

1364
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 2: like forever. But then also the environment of the very

1365
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 2: environment here is just unreal. It's like, how do I

1366
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 2: relate to this as a human being? A world where

1367
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 2: tanks are moving up like vertically yea for stories and

1368
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 2: stories and then battling each other in long haulways and

1369
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 2: like just industrial cathedral spaces.

1370
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:04,679
Speaker 3: Yeah. So at this point in the movie, tank time

1371
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 3: has come, and a lot of what happens from here

1372
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 3: on out is just tank play, you know, there is

1373
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 3: it's tank versus tank, mech versus mech, and we're seeing

1374
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 3: the different types of like you know, gun head weapons

1375
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:20,680
Speaker 3: or defenses versus Chiron five weapons or defenses.

1376
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, it basically becomes tank'sploitation yea in the latter stages

1377
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:25,560
Speaker 2: of this film.

1378
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 3: Though, I mean just several A lot of the things

1379
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 3: about the gun head are great, Like I love how

1380
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 3: it doesn't it's not purely wheel powered or leg powered.

1381
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:37,639
Speaker 3: It has sort of a combination of legs and wheels,

1382
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 3: kind of like rolling track legs. Sometimes it sort of

1383
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 3: walks like an enormous metal turkey with guns all over it.

1384
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 3: Other times it has tracks and rolls like a tank.

1385
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it has different modes I guess to deal

1386
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 2: with different terrain types.

1387
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting. So I know, big thumbs up to

1388
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 3: the gun Head. I like the gun Head, But anyway,

1389
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:58,640
Speaker 3: what's going on with the humans at this point? I

1390
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 3: think there's I don't know. Again, it's it's not exactly

1391
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 3: the easiest to follow right here, but the biodroid, I think,

1392
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 3: is supposed to be returning the text mexium to the

1393
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 3: Chiron core, but is also just injecting itself with text

1394
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 3: mexium along the way, like it's using heroin. So it's

1395
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 3: taken it up to the core, but then like it

1396
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 3: stops to have a little taste.

1397
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 4: It earned it. It earned it. There's also a.

1398
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 3: Lot of cute stuff with Brooklyn and Seven bonding during

1399
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 3: their gun Head quest throughout the facility at this point, Like, well,

1400
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 3: there are some things where like Seven is trying to

1401
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 3: help and he's playing around underneath Gunhead's feet and I'm like, Seven,

1402
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 3: stop doing that. That is very dangerous. But other times

1403
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,719
Speaker 3: there's like one part where it's Seven points a gun

1404
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 3: at Brooklyn, a real gun and he makes it, you know,

1405
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 3: pewpw shooting sound, and Brooklyn warns him not to do

1406
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 3: this because in a callback it is bad lucky. I'm

1407
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:54,840
Speaker 3: not sure that's the main problem with it. But I

1408
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 3: don't know, maybe there's like a dubbing translation issue. I mean,

1409
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 3: I could imagine like bad luck being another way to

1410
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 3: say that it's dangerous or something.

1411
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure. I think that the scenes with

1412
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 2: the kids tended to be the scenes where I was

1413
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 2: cross checking on Wikipedia to see what the plot was

1414
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 2: doing at that point.

1415
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I agree, those were some of the hardest

1416
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 3: to understand.

1417
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1418
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,799
Speaker 3: Now, now I've talked about how Gunhead is like really

1419
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 3: really motivating and really confident and positive. There's a great

1420
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 3: part where Gunheads starts doing this extended baseball metaphor to Brooklyn, Yes,

1421
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 3: about the Brooklyn Dodgers. He's talking about some baseball game

1422
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 3: where they were behind but then they they fought through it,

1423
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:37,679
Speaker 3: And I thought that was really funny. There's a part

1424
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 3: where the Gunhead has to be refueled using we find

1425
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 3: out that he can refuel with any ethanol based something.

1426
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 3: You know, basically alcohol can refuel him. And what do

1427
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 3: you know, here's that salvage whiskey that Captain Banchow was

1428
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 3: talking about.

1429
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you look at the images of that Gunhead

1430
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 2: model kit that I referenced earlier, there is a whiskey

1431
01:13:58,640 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 2: cask attached to its leg.

1432
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 3: Beautiful. Now there's another thing that I didn't fully understand,

1433
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 3: but I enjoyed at least visually. There's some kind of

1434
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:10,679
Speaker 3: double cross with the older sister with Eleven. At some point,

1435
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,759
Speaker 3: light starts coming out of her mouth. I like this effect.

1436
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 3: But then she like locks up Sergeant Nim and her

1437
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 3: brother and she's going to initiate control for the Chiron five.

1438
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 3: I think she has some kind of computer implant controlling

1439
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 3: her behavior, like she's a double a sleeper agent for

1440
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 3: the AI. Yes, and then we get this a big

1441
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 3: gun Head versus Aerobot showdown. Aerobot is overpowered, but Gunhead

1442
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 3: has a strategy, and his strategy is to take out

1443
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:45,719
Speaker 3: Errobot's three triangle eyes, and eventually Brooklyn and the Gunhead

1444
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 3: are victorious. They destroy the aerobot. Meanwhile, somehow Sergeant Nim

1445
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 3: stops Eleven from doing something with the text Mexium vile.

1446
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:57,639
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what it was, but she was trying

1447
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 3: to do something bad in the Chiron five qu and

1448
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:03,839
Speaker 3: Nim she gets in there and stops it from happening.

1449
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 3: And then the Biodroid is in the mix here, and

1450
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 3: I couldn't exactly follow what's going on. But at some

1451
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 3: point the biodroid like vaporizes itself. I don't know if

1452
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 3: she has a It's like the babe part of the

1453
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 3: babe part that is now absorbed into the biodroid has

1454
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 3: a crisis of conscience when it sees Brooklyn and the

1455
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:28,720
Speaker 3: kids there and Sergeant Nim and it's like, no, what

1456
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,679
Speaker 3: have I become? And then just like turns to light.

1457
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, something that it probably could have used more

1458
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 2: fleshing out the really buy it. It kind of comes

1459
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 2: out of left field here, but yeah, but fair enough.

1460
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 3: But anyway, you get a standard escape sequence. Elevin is

1461
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:46,680
Speaker 3: somehow cured of her chiron glowing mouth. I don't know

1462
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 3: what happens to fix that, but now it seems like

1463
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 3: she's okay, and the four humans all scramble to escape

1464
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 3: to the Marianne and they fly away. Oh and then

1465
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 3: the best thing of all with the ending is as

1466
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 3: they're flying away, they get a message on the computer

1467
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 3: screen in the plane. They say Gunhead has sent a

1468
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 3: message to us. In fact, they thought he was destroyed,

1469
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:08,599
Speaker 3: but he's alive back on the island, and he says

1470
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 3: the Gunhead Battalion has completed its mission, and then we

1471
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 3: get a very charming carrot chomp from Brooklyn right at

1472
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:16,599
Speaker 3: the end.

1473
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 2: And that is Gunhead. It's, like I say, I think

1474
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 2: a great film to put on in the background, given

1475
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 2: how wonderful the visuals are. It was not that surprising

1476
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 2: to learn that Canadian electro industrial band Frontline Assembly used

1477
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 2: with permission, Gunhead footage as the basis for their nineteen

1478
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 2: ninety two music video mind Phaser. And they didn't just

1479
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:45,680
Speaker 2: use the film's excellent footage. They actually shot themselves in

1480
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 2: costumes that looked like they belonged in Gunhead and inserted

1481
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 2: themselves into the world. So look that up mind Phaser

1482
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 2: if you want to see just flashes of this film.

1483
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:58,600
Speaker 3: Oh interesting. I hope one of them became a biodroid.

1484
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 2: I think they all be come biodroids. It's kind of

1485
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 2: the electro industrial dream, right.

1486
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. I love the biodroid. I love it.

1487
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1488
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, the biodroid is good. And I think the biodroid

1489
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 2: is ultimately more relatable because it is humanoid that the tank.

1490
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 4: I mean.

1491
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 2: I love sci fi tanks, you know, I love movies

1492
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 2: with sci fi tanks in them. I build sci fi

1493
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 2: tanks sometimes but it was just I was kind of

1494
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 2: hard to get behind these admittedly cool sci fi tanks

1495
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 2: in this film. And I was thinking about this, I

1496
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 2: was trying to think, well, why is that? And then

1497
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 2: I had to ask myself, well, what tank movies do

1498
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 2: I actually like? And I think, for me, the best

1499
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:41,879
Speaker 2: tank heavy movie I can think of is Kelly's Heroes.

1500
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 3: I've never seen it.

1501
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:45,880
Speaker 2: Oh it's good. It's you know, World War two kind

1502
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:51,839
Speaker 2: of a heisty situation. You know, rogue characters, heavily involves tanks.

1503
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 2: The tanks are important to the plot, but not more

1504
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 2: important than the people, you know, And I guess it

1505
01:17:57,920 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 2: kind of comes down to sort of the reality of

1506
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Speaker 2: tank war fair too. Like tanks cannot exist on their own,

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01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:06,800
Speaker 2: tanks need uh support from from from human beings as well,

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Speaker 2: both inside and out. And that can be said for

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Speaker 2: the plot of a film as well. Because when I

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Speaker 2: started looking at lists of tank movies, granted there were

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Speaker 2: many that I had not seen, but there were others

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Speaker 2: where I'm like, oh, that that was no good.

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Speaker 4: I did not like that.

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Speaker 2: You have had a sci fi tank, but it wasn't

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Speaker 2: that good. The sci fi tanks are best, in my opinion,

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Speaker 2: when they're they're utilized within the film, like they show

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01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 2: up in a couple of scenes, but they're not the

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Speaker 2: whole deal.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I like the I like the digital tanks in Tron.

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Speaker 2: Those were good tanks. Yeah. I think another thing about

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Speaker 2: like mech combat and in this case mech tank combat,

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Speaker 2: is that, like I said, when they were battling each other,

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Speaker 2: it were just kind of exploding at each other.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Robot Jocks, which granted, is more about more humanoid robots

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Speaker 2: in those battles, like everything they did mattered, like they

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01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 2: were setting up particular moves as being important and there

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Speaker 2: was discussion about what they were. Uh, so we saw

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Speaker 2: less of that in this for sure.

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Speaker 3: I'd say the color palettes of robot Jocks versus Gunhead

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Speaker 3: are entirely opposite. Yeah, Robot Jocks is dominated by bright

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01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 3: light colors and takes place in broad daylight where you

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Speaker 3: get a very clear picture of exactly what you're looking

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Speaker 3: at to an almost comical extent, whereas Gunhead is very

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Speaker 3: it's more, you know, the dark, gritty, cyberpunk thing where

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Speaker 3: everything in the movie looks kind of like muddy and

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Speaker 3: grimy and dimly lit, so you never get a really

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Speaker 3: clear look at anything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's still it's beautiful in its own way.

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Speaker 2: I absolutely love the look of the film. All Right,

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Speaker 2: you're probably wondering, well, where can I see Gunhead? Well,

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Speaker 2: it looks like it has streamed recently on Prime, but

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Speaker 2: it's not currently available to us anyway at this point

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01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 2: on Prime. There's a DVD that is available from Section

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01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 2: twenty three Films in the United States, and that's how

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01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 2: we watched it. We actually rented it from Video Drome

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01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 2: are Video store in Atlanta Videodrome dot TV, so that's

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Speaker 2: how we got to see it. But I believe there's

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01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 2: also a copy of this on archive dot org as well.

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Speaker 3: For future historians to refer to.

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01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but of course stuff comes and goes on streaming platforms.

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01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,720
Speaker 2: For instance, when we reviewed Robot Jocks, it was not

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01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 2: available on Amazon Prime. Now it's on Amazon Prime as

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Speaker 2: of this recording, so you know, just be patient. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: in these films pop back up.

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01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,639
Speaker 3: We were told when we reviewed Robot Jocks by several

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01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 3: listeners that it was quite coincidentally available on a platform.

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Speaker 4: Called to B to B Yes tub I Yes.

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Speaker 3: If you haven't listened to our Robot Jocks episode, go

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01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 3: listen to that, you'll understand the joke.

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Speaker 2: All right, We're going to go ahead and close it

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Speaker 2: out here. But obviously we'd love to hear from everybody

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01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 2: out there, people who saw this film back in the day,

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01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 2: people who saw it because we mentioned it on the show.

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Speaker 2: We'd love to hear from anyone out there who's more

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01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 2: versed in, say, Japanese cyberpunk, Japanese science fiction in general.

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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on this film and it's in

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Speaker 2: Japanese cinema. What are your thoughts on tank movies? Do

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01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 2: you have a favorite example of tank exploitation? If so,

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Speaker 2: let us know.

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Speaker 3: Huge thanks as always to our excellent audio producer Seth

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01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:13,679
Speaker 3: Nicholas Johnson. If you would like to get in touch

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01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:15,800
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1575
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 3: to suggest topic for the future, just to say hello,

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01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:21,000
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