1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 2: Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, Buddy. 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: Well a happy, happy, happy Fox Football Saturday. Another great 4 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: weekend is upon us after an amazing game last night 5 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: where the Fellas broadcasting live from the tire rack dot 6 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: Com studios. Tyrack dot Com. We're gonna help you get 7 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: there an unmatch selection, fast free shipping, free roadhas protection 8 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: over ten thousand recommended installers. Tire rack dot Com the 9 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: way tire buying should be Fellas Jason fits I'm Anthony Rigato, 10 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: Kevin Figures. We got our support, our crew. That's right 11 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 2: to Shay and Mighty Mark with us every Saturday right 12 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: here in Fitsie. The lead is last night stunning, stunning 13 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: comeback by Stanford. You heard Figgy talk about it, Bernie 14 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: talked about it a little earlier. It's it was wild 15 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: last night in Boulder because you thought that Colorado would 16 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 2: roll Stanford struggling and uh, they're up, you know, early 17 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: twenty when you got that kind of lead in the 18 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: first half, Stanford can't do anything in the first half, 19 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, it's amazing. They just 20 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,279 Speaker 2: storm back. And I heard Bernie say that's fitzy about 21 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: you know, it's why you play the games and all, 22 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: and it's the truth. It is the greatest realities. They're like, 23 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: it's twenty nine to nothing at halftime and you're going, 24 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: all right, and I don't know how many people stayed 25 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: with it, and then you kind of checked your phone 26 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: and saw that it was a game. You went, oh 27 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: my god, at Fitzy, this is the beauty of college football. Yeah. 28 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: And by the way, I'm one of those people that 29 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: thought it was done, and you know, being on the 30 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: other coast, I was like, all right, early snooze for me. 31 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: So I wake up this morning and say, what what 32 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: happened exactly? And the problem is not that they lost 33 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: the game. The problem is that, because of everything else, 34 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: love it or hate it, Colorado has become such a 35 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: spectacle this year that, let's be real, that means everybody 36 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: pays attention to every single thing. Now, Blowing a lead 37 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: is part of college football culture. I don't know if 38 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: you can be a big program until you've done it, frankly, 39 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: but because they did it, and it's you know, only 40 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: a week removed from should who were talking to his 41 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: smack to a very bad student section like Arizona State. 42 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: You beat them, you're up there, you're holding the wrist up. 43 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: It's become this cultural phenomenon. Now, once you're a cultural phenomenon, 44 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: whether you're in sports or music or entertainment, once you're 45 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: a cultural phenomenon, you got as many people rooting for 46 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: you to fail as you do to succeed. Sometimes, so 47 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: this only fuels the fire of people that will now 48 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: continually say, well, Colorado's overrated. I just want to remind 49 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: everybody Colorado's already won more games than anybody expected that 50 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: they would. Yes, they should have won this football game. Yeah, 51 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: you'll hear all of the isms. We're going to learn 52 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: from this, We're going to be better from this, all 53 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: of these things that you know, coaches and players always say. 54 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: But if you're Colorado that this is this is sort 55 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 1: of a worst case scenario because Colorado's relevance is good 56 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: for college football. 57 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: Oh, it's great for college football. It's why people watched 58 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: last night and you know the ratings. I'm sure were 59 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 2: you know all about it because they want to see Prime. 60 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: They want to see Colorado and look, I mean I 61 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: think you see you see what they can be dynamic 62 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: and I think what what Prime does can work. You know. 63 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: The issue with them is, and we talked about this before, 64 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: is defensively, they're not very good. They're not good up front, 65 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 2: especially defensively, and they get manhandled. That's why in the 66 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: run game you can gash them. So I mean, I 67 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: think there's you know, there's clearly it. I mean, look 68 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: of offensively, they're just a blast to lots. I mean 69 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: they are and Shikour look, I mean when you when 70 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: you're that dynamic and you're that big of a you 71 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: talk THEO, there's that much noise that's around you. Hey, man, 72 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: you know there's going to be haters. I mean that's 73 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: a part of it. That's good. You gotta embrace it. 74 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: By the way too, as you were talking and you 75 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: just mentioned, hey, this defensive line can't really get after anybody. 76 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: I just it's the biggest truism. I'm going to make 77 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: that a word. I'm not really sure if it is, 78 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: but it's the biggest truth right now in all of football. 79 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: That is so simple, and we over just over, we 80 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: gloss over it every week. And I don't care what 81 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: level we're talking about. I don't care if we're talking 82 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: about your kids. I don't care if we're talking about 83 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: high school, college or the NFL. Like, it's very simple. 84 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: If your defensive line can't win and your offensive line 85 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: can't win, you can't win. Like it's just as complicated 86 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: as we make it. And as much as we talk 87 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: about quarterbacks, like, football is won from the inside out. 88 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: And the problem is, there aren't enough offensive linemen even 89 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: in the pipeline that can really play. There aren't enough 90 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: good offensive linemen up and down the board that can play. 91 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: It's why there are so many bad NFL teams. It's 92 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: why there's so many inconsistent college football teams. Like, it's 93 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: just Colorado is weak in the two places. You can't 94 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: be weak and win with the biggest of the best 95 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: in college football. They're week on the offensive line there, 96 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: week on the defensive. 97 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 2: Fits your spot on, man, I mean all can decide, right, 98 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: Just to simplify the game, it's all about that. It's 99 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: all about up front. It's it's you know, people go 100 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 2: O line, O line, but you know it's also the 101 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: hardest position. I think to now when you're drafting, when 102 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: you're evaluating young players, I think the O line more 103 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 2: than the D line. The O line is really hard 104 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: to project. It's really I mean, we've seen for as 105 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 2: many you know, we talk about quarterbacks and bus at 106 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 2: all because it's the glimbor position. But if you go 107 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 2: through the history of the draft, you're gonna see way 108 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 2: more bus in the first round with offensive linemen than 109 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 2: any other position because it's just it's so difficult. But 110 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: you're right, you just win. I go through, you know, 111 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: go over the last few Super Bowl teams, right like 112 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 2: when Patrick Mahomes struggled in the second Super Bowl when 113 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: they lost. If you remember that, what was the problem, Well, 114 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: they lost both tackles. When you lose both tackles, that's 115 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: that's what happens. All of a sudden. People go, well, 116 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 2: it's Mahomes, that's good. It was his second year, I remember, 117 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 2: and his for rookie year. He's amazing and the whole thing. 118 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: Then they come back and it's because their line struggled 119 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: to block. So as crazy as Patrick Mahomes is, you 120 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 2: gotta have guys who can block up front. I mean, 121 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 2: I think, look, they still testimony to the Chiefs, they 122 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: still got back there. But when they lost both tackles, 123 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: it didn't make any read a bad coach. It made 124 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 2: any read a guy who lost two tackles and that's 125 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 2: killed them. Yeah. 126 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: Well, and I'd argue right now, if you look across 127 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: the NFL every Sunday, there are not thirty two capable 128 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: left tackles in the league. It's not even close. Right, 129 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: it's hard for fans. And I get this hard for me, 130 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: Like I that's why you know, in life, I always 131 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: say one of the things you got to do if 132 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: you want to be smart about football is have four 133 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: or five fat friends, right, Like, you gotta have fat 134 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: guys that played offensive line that can tell you, oh, no, 135 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: this is good and this is bad because we're all 136 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: still trying to figure it out. Like the Schwartz brothers 137 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: have done a great job of explaining where the false 138 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: start line is and isn't how people react to it, 139 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: like we don't know that stuff. Like so I'm perfectly 140 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: capable of admitting that it's hard for fans to figure 141 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: out offensive line. What's struggling. What's stunning to me is 142 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: you're right, it is so hard for professional you know. Like, look, 143 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: if I go back to my music days and you 144 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: tell me to watch thirty bands, I'm gonna be able 145 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: to figure out, Okay, this drummer is good at this, 146 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: this guitar player is good at this, Like that's just 147 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: part of what you can do. I can't figure out 148 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: why scouts can't just look around and me like, no, 149 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: that tackles a bust or the number of times covering 150 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: the draft they're like, this guy could go inside or 151 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: outside and we're not really sure. And it's like, well, 152 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: that's how you're not sure, Like what it's your job 153 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: to be sure, you know. So I don't know why 154 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: teams struggle to do it, but I feel sometimes for 155 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: modern college football because for the longest time, the answer 156 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: was just get the ball out of the quarterback's hands 157 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: as quickly as possible, or run the ball, because offensive 158 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: lineman can do that. Now in these weird concepts, spread 159 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: offenses that are all over the place, you got quarterbacks 160 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: running around down there, back there. You know, for their lives, 161 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna see more and more how bad offensive linemen 162 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: aren't college football. 163 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: But no, and that's what you nailed. I mean, you 164 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: nailed it with the offense, right, Like when you think 165 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 2: about you know, those offenses and pass blocking versus run blocking, 166 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: and you know, are you going downhill right the whole 167 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: you know, it's all about that, right, It's very rare 168 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 2: that you get an offensive line. Like you know, I'm 169 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: in Philadelphia, so I watched the Eagles, and look, because 170 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 2: of their line play. They won their super Bowl in 171 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, was the twenty seventeen season into into January, 172 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 2: February twenty eighteen. That was a only because of their 173 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 2: line play. Their line play was amazing. Look at the Rams. 174 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: The Rams would a super Bowl, right, like Jason Donald 175 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: and you look at I mean Aaron Donald, and you 176 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 2: look at you know, all the line play that they had. 177 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 2: Good line play. They had one little soft spot the 178 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 2: Super Bowl year and it was interior, right in the 179 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 2: interior spot. But once they fortified that they won. But 180 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 2: then the following year they were decimated along both fronts 181 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 2: and it was a lost year. And that's true only 182 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 2: because of their line play. 183 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I even think back to this year watching 184 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: my beloved Raiders, and there's so many conversations about what's 185 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: wrong with the offense. They can't score twenty points, And 186 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: what's wrong with the offense is so simple, like the 187 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: offensive line is just hot garbage. This year, it's playing 188 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: like hot garbage right this year. It played better last 189 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: year than anyone expected this year, it's not so everyone 190 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: all fantasy owners out there saying what's wrong with Josh Jacobs, Well, nothing, 191 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: but like a couple of weeks ago, Jimmy g actually 192 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: got sacked on a handoff, like he was trying to 193 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: hand the ball off and went to the ground, And 194 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: so you started thinking about what it means triggle down 195 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: ef fact to the way we view the quarterbacks, what 196 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: it means to the way we view the running game. 197 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: All of these things that we say are wrong when 198 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: realistically and this is what Colorado faces, right, Like, you know, 199 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: we live in a world where in college football twenty 200 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: nine point Yeah, that's my movie voice, I'm going cential 201 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: good like that trailer voice. The but like twenty nine, 202 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: nothing ain't safe, like in college football the half twenty 203 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: nine Nothing is never safe, especially if your team that 204 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: can't play defense. So you know, for Colorado loses game 205 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: forty six to forty three, I think like the biggest 206 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: thing that we have to remember there is that they 207 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: blew the lead. Their weaknesses again, we're exposed. You put 208 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 1: too much on their offense. Like the theme of Colorado 209 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: this year is pretty easy if we just take all 210 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: the noise away and look at who they are as 211 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: a football team. 212 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's true. Figgi good morning. Uh what the gentlemen? Goodhead? 213 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 2: I'm curious. You know you pack twelve. Man, it's twenty 214 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 2: nine and nothing a halftime? 215 00:10:58,440 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 3: What are you doing turning it off? 216 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: Exactly? 217 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 3: That's exactly what I'm doing, finding something else to watch. 218 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 3: I was like, hey, you know this Fresnoe State Utah 219 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 3: State games coming down to the wire. Let me go 220 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 3: back to that one. 221 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 2: That's great. I love your blood. It's probably I love it. 222 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 2: I love it. It's it's a breath of fresh air. 223 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 1: And how could you not. 224 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 3: I mean, I've been watching most of the first half 225 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 3: Stanford and by the way, just watching them a little 226 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 3: bit this year or just atrocious. I mean he lost 227 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 3: the Sacramento State Twy's Harris former team earlier this year, 228 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 3: and just for Colorado to collapse that way in the 229 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 3: second half, all credit in the world, by the way 230 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 3: to Stanford. You can't have a great comeback without you know, 231 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 3: a great collapse, not a great comeback, but to you, 232 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 3: guys's point, and it takes me back to something that 233 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 3: Deon Sanders said early on. I don't know if it 234 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 3: was just before a week one or just after their 235 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 3: first victory against TCU, but he says, everyone talks about 236 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 3: building inside out. I want to build outside in. We 237 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 3: got to have great cornerbacks, We got to have great 238 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 3: skill position players. Not totally issueing the interior play, but 239 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 3: to your point, if you're gonna win at at a 240 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 3: high level, you gotta have some big boys up front 241 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 3: that can move people. Like, if you're asking me which 242 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 3: I'd rather have, I'd much rather just have a dominant 243 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 3: offensive and defensive line and average skill players because I 244 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 3: kind of find guys that can fill in those roles. 245 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 3: Of those roles if I'm opening up holes up front, 246 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 3: you know, an average running back can get me some 247 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 3: good yards. An average quarterback and make some throws downfield 248 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 3: with a guy if he has all day to throw. 249 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 3: It is just so vitally important that you have dominant defensive, 250 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 3: offensive and defensive linemen. Those are the teams that are 251 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 3: generally successful on a year in, year out basis, even 252 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 3: if they don't have the greatest skill position players. 253 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's so true. It's so true. Well, Fellas, 254 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 2: we got a lot to do today, and we gotta 255 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 2: go over some baseball today fightings. How about the fighting 256 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 2: Phillies fitsy. 257 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: I am so impressed with your professionalism. I never could 258 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: have done what you just did. You led with something 259 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: other than where I thought we were going to go 260 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: off the top, because man, my heart was full for you. 261 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: My heart was just absolutely just bursting open because last 262 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: week I sat here and said, I pity, I pity 263 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: the fool that's out here having to watch that. And 264 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, bam, what do you get? 265 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,599 Speaker 1: You get a win out of this series, a dominant 266 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: win out of this series, and I just look, I'm 267 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 1: gonna be the non baseball conformistier. I just have to 268 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: tell you, as I was thinking about you this week, 269 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: I love the Major League Baseball playoff format so much, 270 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: and anybody who says it's broken has lost their damn mind, because, 271 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: like I don't care. At some point, once you've gone 272 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: through the entirety of the season. You watch the regular 273 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: season because you love baseball and because you love the 274 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: process and the marathon, But once you get to the playoffs, 275 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: everything restarts, and it feels like this is the only 276 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: sport that is finding a way to sit here and 277 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: complain about the greatest playoff you could possibly ask for. 278 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: Like in hockey, which I love, you go through the 279 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: whole regular season and we all know a hot goalie 280 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: can win you a Stanley Cup even if your team 281 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily deserve it, and that's part of the joy 282 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: and charm of it. Like we live in a world 283 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: where the Giants, being barely good enough to make the 284 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: playoffs take out the Patriots who are undefeated, and we 285 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: celebrated is the glory of the NFL playoffs. Now we 286 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: sit in this glorious moment for baseball where it was 287 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: the one thing you never want your playoffs to be. 288 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: It accomplished the think your playoffs have to accomplish. It 289 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: was not predictable. This is a glorious thing for the sport. 290 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: And instead my social media is blown up people saying 291 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: this is stupid, this is broken. It is not stupid, 292 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: It is not broken. In fact, it's good for the game. 293 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: Look at college football. When you don't have predictable top fours, 294 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: people watch more like this is exactly what baseball wants needs. 295 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: I cannot believe people are complaining about it. 296 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 2: Well, if I if I take my Philly set off, 297 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: and it's been you know, kind of parently planted on 298 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 2: my head. But if I take it off, I have 299 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 2: to tell you the if the Dodgers, the Rays, the Orioles, right, 300 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: and whom I missing fake the Orioles, the Dodgers, the Rays, 301 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 2: and and the Braves excuse me the sorry score. I mean, 302 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: win up four hundred and four games in the regular 303 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 2: season and then win one in the playoffs, I gotta 304 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 2: think there's something up. I mean, look, I you know, 305 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 2: I think that I think the Braves wilted. I don't 306 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: think that that was uh, you know, being you know, 307 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 2: having sat or anything like that. The brave the Phillies 308 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 2: are you know, you know. I mean, I've attained it 309 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 2: all year. I think the Phillies are a really really 310 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 2: good team, and the Braves wilted in that yard. I 311 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 2: mean I watched they just want to know, part of 312 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 2: the Phillies. You could see it, and they're they had 313 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: a couple of glaring issues with their pitching staff. And 314 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 2: the Phillies are the better team. I mean, that's just 315 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 2: the truth of the matter. But when all four of 316 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 2: those teams lose, I don't know, there's got to be 317 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 2: more than a you know, it's more than just coincidence, are. 318 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: You Yeah, But here's the thing, and I don't disagree that. 319 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: Maybe you look at it and say, wow, I just 320 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: think that right now, if all the number one to 321 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: three seeds in the NFL Playoffs this year were eliminated 322 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: and we were suddenly looking at AFC and NFC championship 323 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: games they were all wild card teams, it would be 324 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: the talking point of why the NFL playoff is undefeated? Right, Like, 325 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: this is the hardest thing. 326 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if I agree with that. 327 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 2: I don't know if I would feel that way. Man, 328 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 2: I don't I don't know. I mean, like, if all 329 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: if there were no good I mean part of the 330 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 2: you watch all year for the greatness, Like you know 331 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 2: you're a fan of greatness. 332 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, if that's the case, how about you'd 333 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 3: be great when it matters. 334 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll go back to I'll go back to 335 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: the Patriots. The Patriots are undefeated, and all of a sudden, 336 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: it's one of the most celebrated Super Bowl victories of 337 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: all time that an undefeated team lost. Because at the 338 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: end of the day, we don't want predictable greatness, right Like, 339 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: I'm with you, and I think maybe the best example 340 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: for your point would be the March Madness situation, where 341 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: ratings will show you on TV that what we really 342 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: want are upsets in the first round of blue bloods 343 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: in the final four, right like, we've seen that, and 344 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: and maybe there's some truth to that that the elimination 345 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: of a couple of those teams and not all of 346 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: those teams will be you know better. But I think 347 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: at some point, you know, this is I'll go back 348 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: to the college football portion of this. The fact that 349 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: it's been the same four teams basically every year for 350 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: most of the college football playoffs has been a bad thing. 351 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 2: The fact that your great point, Listen, it's a great point. 352 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 2: Let's debate it. We've got to take a quick time 353 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 2: out and I'll just talk about not what is what 354 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 2: people like, but more in the essence of fairness. So 355 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 2: let's let's dive into this. I think it's a really good, 356 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,239 Speaker 2: good conversation. But look, man, I'm loving it because I 357 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 2: got my phillies. Man, it's been a great time. Phillies 358 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 2: diving backs to the NLCS Houston Texas and the AL 359 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: that's pretty cool. We'll get to everything. NFL College. We 360 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 2: got a big day ahead of us where the fella 361 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 2: is just getting started right here, and we're brought to 362 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 2: you by, of course, Progressive Insurance. Progressive makes bundling easy 363 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 2: and affordable. Get a multi policy discount by combining your motorcycle, RV, boat, 364 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 2: ATV whatever. You got all your protection at one place, 365 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 2: bundled safe Progressive dot Com. 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Don't forget football fans, 380 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,479 Speaker 2: be sure to tune into Fox Sports Radio every Saturday 381 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 2: morning beginna get nine am Eastern six am Pacific for 382 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 2: Countdown to Kickoff, presented by bet MGM, Brian no my Man, 383 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 2: Rich Hornberger, betting analyst Jared Smith. Got you covered three 384 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 2: hours before college kickoffs every Saturday morning, listing Countdown and 385 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 2: Kickoff presented by BETMGM. Right here on Fox Sports Radio 386 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 2: and the IRT Radio app. All right, Jason Fitz, I'm 387 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 2: Anthony Gargano. We got Kevin Figures Crew Shade Mighty Mark 388 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 2: with us, and let's get into it because we're talking baseball. 389 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 2: I love you, know, Fitz. He's a man of chaos. 390 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 2: You enjoy chaos. 391 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: I think that's probably pretty fair. Actually, yeah, I am 392 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: a man ca I am a man of chaos, and 393 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 1: that that probably skews him. I will. I'm grown up 394 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: enough this morning to admit that that will probably skew 395 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: my opinion on this. Yes, my friend. 396 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Figure's a man of bluntness that says, if you're good, 397 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 2: then play good, and that's it. Either you know, play 398 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 2: well or be gone. And that's all four of those 399 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 2: teams are gone. 400 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's the name. 401 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 2: Of the game. 402 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 3: I mean, this is the only time. When does anybody 403 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 3: ever complain about having too much rest? You know, usually 404 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 3: players say, oh, I'm banged up. I love having me 405 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 3: a little bit of a bye, a little bit of 406 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 3: time off. I mean, heaven forbid you have extra time 407 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 3: to set up your starting rotation and give guys arms 408 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 3: a bit of a rest. I mean, when is that 409 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 3: a bad thing? 410 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 2: I will say this, and I just think it's the 411 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 2: nature of the sport. You can't hitting is important for rhythm, 412 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 2: Like you can't take off, you can't be off all 413 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 2: that time. I think it just affects timing. I really do. 414 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 2: I think that piece of it. Now, look to your point. 415 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 2: It does help your arms right in a big way. 416 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 2: I think it disrupts your bats in a big way too. 417 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 2: I think, to me, like the fix of the playoffs, 418 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 2: it's to me, just make this round seven games. I've 419 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 2: been yelling for seven games. Yeah, because seven games is truism. 420 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 2: Like if you know, the Diamondbacks beat the Dodgers in 421 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 2: seven games, and the Phillies beat the Braves in seven games, 422 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 2: then that's just sobe it. The best team of wins 423 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 2: in seven short series can be funky, right, but seven 424 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 2: gamer seven gamers to choose to get back to Fitzi's truism, that's. 425 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 3: True, yes, But also I think to Fitzi's point, you know, 426 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 3: the fact the five game series brings the element of randomness, 427 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 3: in the fact that you could potentially have an upset, 428 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 3: that's kind of the exciting round. I wish the NBA 429 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 3: would have stuck with the first round being five games. 430 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 3: Most of the time the higher seed ends up winning, sure, 431 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 3: but it kind of eliminates the possibility of an upset because, yes, 432 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 3: the truism is the better team most times eight times 433 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 3: out of ten is going to win a seven game series. 434 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,239 Speaker 3: In a five game series, you just never know. And 435 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 3: I think that's the fun and exciting part about the 436 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 3: divisional series round. 437 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: I think that's the problem is that if what you 438 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: end up with is the better team wins, it's just 439 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 1: after the marathon of the regular season. I keep using 440 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: that word, But one hundred and sixty two games, right, 441 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: it just becomes sort of why, like, what's bringing everybody 442 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: in to watch the chaos? And if you don't love 443 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: playoff baseball, and maybe baseball fans don't care about that, 444 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 1: I understand that. But to me, any sport, I don't 445 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: care what we're talking about. Good comes from lack of predictability, 446 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 1: you know, so good comes from great stories. And so 447 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: for whether it's because the dominance becomes the big story 448 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: and everybody has to talk about it, as was the 449 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: case for most of the year with the Braves, or 450 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: if it's the fall of dominance, which we seem to 451 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: as a society love whenever we can see it. I 452 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: don't know why we love to watch great and as humbled, right, 453 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: And so for whatever reason, when you get that, though, 454 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: I don't think you make wholesale changes to everything, because 455 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: this year was a weird year where the best teams lost. 456 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: I think you instead just embrace that, Hey, this is 457 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: a year where there's absolute chaos and an unpredictable team 458 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: is going to win. And by the way, that's also 459 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: something that next year, in the middle of the season, 460 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: when it looks like somebody's running away with it, you say, yeah, 461 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: but what about last year? Right like it? It breeds 462 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: generational hope for people that will say, yeah, but I 463 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: watched that playoff that year and look at what they did. 464 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: So you know, I don't know that I want a 465 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: system that makes it more difficult for the Phillies to 466 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: beat the Braves and for the Dodgers to lose. Like, 467 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: I don't know that I need that much. 468 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you can't devalue one hundred and sixty two 469 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 2: games and that's what you do. 470 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: I mean, isn't that in essence what we Isn't that 471 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: in essence what they do in hockey? Though, like because 472 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: the top seed simply never wins and not like like 473 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: I said earlier, the old adage everybody knows is that 474 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: a hot goalie will win you the Stanley Cup. Right, So, 475 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: and we love that. We love this whole long second 476 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: season of the Stanley Cup playoff and what it means 477 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: to get to the opportunity to win it. 478 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 2: Well, I think there's I think there's great parody too, though, 479 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 2: I think there's, like, listen, Boston, you know the Bruins 480 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 2: make your point. This past year, I was gonna bring 481 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 2: them up. Havel had that epic season and the whole thing, 482 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 2: and then you know, our complete flop in the playoffs. 483 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 2: But I've seen teams go you know that were great, 484 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 2: great teams that won, right, They had great regular seasons 485 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 2: and they won in the playoffs. I think it's more 486 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 2: of a more of a parody. 487 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,479 Speaker 3: Sure, I mean Houston did that last year. The Houston 488 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 3: had a bye last year in the MLB postseason and 489 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 3: they won the World Series. So I mean it's not 490 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 3: And I never agree with Rob Manfred on anything. You 491 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 3: know how I feel about Rob Manford. Anthony guys a dope, 492 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 3: but he made a great point. He says it's been 493 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 3: two seasons of this. Last year the top seeds were 494 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 3: two and two, as far as the teas that added 495 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 3: by this year was one and three. I do think 496 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 3: we need a bit of a larger sample size before 497 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 3: we have a knee jerk reaction to off of just 498 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 3: a two season sample size of this. Maybe it's something 499 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 3: that I do think they revisit, and if they do 500 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,479 Speaker 3: end up making a change, Anthony, I do think they 501 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 3: will possibly think about just extending the NLDS and making 502 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 3: it seven to seven seven. Independent of that, I don't 503 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 3: know what else you could do. I saw one theory 504 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 3: where you can have games one and two of the 505 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 3: Wildcard Series be double headers to shave an extra day off. 506 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 3: Maybe that's something they look at. I'm not sure, but 507 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 3: I do think you need a larger sample size than 508 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 3: two seasons before you say we have to blow this 509 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 3: entire model up. 510 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you guys this real quick though. 511 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 1: If we had had chalk all the way across the board, 512 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: would we have opened this morning show talking about Major 513 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: League Baseball in the playoffs? I don't know, like we would, 514 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: Well that's fair to you, but like, but you get 515 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: my point, nor conversations created from it. 516 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 2: Please the game, yes, but the the like you put 517 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 2: it as, like, do counts at the randomness and you 518 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 2: like then the chaos and yeah, I mean we talk 519 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 2: about it, but. 520 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. 521 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 2: I mean, we're if if the Dodgers beat the Diamondbacks, 522 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 2: like the Phillies, aren't I told they're not an underdog 523 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 2: like they The Braves were great, but the Phillies were 524 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 2: just as good as them, I think, And so it 525 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 2: was Phillies Dodgers. We wouldn't be talking Phillies Dodgers. I 526 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 2: think we would. 527 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: I think you would. But I don't think a lot 528 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: of TV shows like. I don't think a lot of 529 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 1: like I don't think the I don't think it's a 530 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: massive headline that cuts through in the middle of football. 531 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: It's the thing that everybody, like everybody says all the time. 532 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 2: About Texas is a great series, like that's like a 533 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: two offensive powerhouse. 534 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 3: The only reason why fits I'd say it would cut 535 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 3: through is because you have, you know, two big markets, 536 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 3: two major marquee franchises. Arizona is kind of seen as 537 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 3: his upstart, and quite honestly, most people think that Phillies 538 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 3: Phillies really kind of kind of wipe the floor with them. 539 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 3: I don't think that's necessarily gonna happen. I do think 540 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 3: Phillies will win, but it's almost like a FATA complete 541 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 3: at this point in time. Will the Phillies beat Atlanta? 542 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 3: And Diamondbacks shouldn't be here. They're young, inexperience. They caught 543 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 3: the Dodgers at the right time, and the Phillies wild 544 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 3: kind of run them off the field. If it was 545 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 3: Dodgers Phillies or Dodgers brace, I do think people will 546 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 3: be talking about it more. I don't think the NLCS 547 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 3: is getting as much talk as say the ALCS is 548 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 3: getting because I think Houston Texas can really legitimately go 549 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,959 Speaker 3: either way because Arizona kind of just came out of 550 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 3: nowhere and they don't really have the star power that 551 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 3: the Dodgers have. 552 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:36,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. I also to your point, I listen baseball all right, 553 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 2: you talked about it earlier in this whole thing. By 554 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 2: no means, do I feel like, you know, calm right? 555 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 2: Like that series starts next week, and you know they 556 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 2: that Arizona team Carol and Marte and Walker and. 557 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 3: Jelli Gallon and Kelly at the top of that rotation 558 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 3: would pretty scared. 559 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not. 560 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 2: I'm not sitting here, you know, calm right. By any stretch, 561 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 2: I agree with. 562 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 3: You because you were ultra confident last week. I remember 563 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 3: this fits about the Braves. They'll kill the Braves. I'm 564 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 3: not even worried about that. 565 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 2: I knew it, but I knew the matchup, Like here's 566 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: the thing, Like, seriously, I knew that match up inside out. 567 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 2: I also know that Braves team can't handle like Citizens 568 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 2: Bank Park. Yeah, we saw them. I mean in the 569 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 2: year before sure Rcia like freaking out of a twelve 570 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 2: year old? 571 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: What's that? 572 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? 573 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 3: Well yeah, and Ronald Cooley you speaking of a you know, 574 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 3: someone who disappeared and didn't even talk to the media 575 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 3: after being eliminated. Which there's your MVP, folks right there. Yeah, 576 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 3: pretty disgraceful. It busts ps. 577 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 2: I know, man, like, you can't just be a baby 578 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 2: about it, like all of the sudden. You know, the 579 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 2: one thing is you get all the glory right right, 580 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 2: and you shouldn't listen, a guy should get all the glory. 581 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's an amazing player, had a nomenal record breaking year. 582 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 2: Sure, but you know you got a man up. 583 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't dance around and pick up bases and 584 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 3: be all flamboyant when you're when everything is going well 585 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 3: and then you get swept and hit under one hundred 586 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 3: for the season, for the postseason and then disappear. 587 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, he hit that ball. And if that 588 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 2: ball is in all the you know, two feet and 589 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 2: it hits the corner of the outfield, Rojas doesn't make 590 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 2: the catch, three run score and we got a game five, 591 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 2: So like he got he got a lot of that 592 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 2: ball was dead center field. So you know, I don't 593 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 2: know why you gotta be a baby bat when look, 594 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 2: you know Rohat's beats a great play and you know 595 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 2: that's that's that's the sport. Yeah, just that you didn't 596 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 2: play well, right. 597 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: Which everything you're saying is a thousand percent true, and 598 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: it speaks to the fabric and wiring that the Braves 599 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: need to get figured out by the way. But I 600 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: would also say that in this process, again, these are 601 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: the this, this is the epic part of all of this, 602 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: right like as somebody for me, as somebody from the 603 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: outside with no skin in the game, it's that drama 604 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: that drew me to all of this, and if I 605 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: the only way I get that drama is through this 606 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: sort of an upset, through this sort of a moment. 607 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: I'm just y'all are making my point on why this 608 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,959 Speaker 1: is a fantastic Major League Baseball playoff and b why 609 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: it's a conversation point in piece. 610 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I still need to go seven, like I still 611 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 2: need this round to be seven. 612 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: Do you think the Phillies would have won in seven? 613 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 2: Yes? 614 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: Do you think what result would have been different in seven? 615 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if the dog like again the 616 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,479 Speaker 2: Dodgers played differently. Like when you lose the way they 617 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 2: lost and Kershaw gets rocked, I mean it shakes you. 618 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 2: When it's the best of five, best of seven, you 619 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 2: still have a breath, like you know, again, Arizona could 620 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 2: still win, but it's still won. But I think in 621 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: a seven game series, you're not squeezing the bat. It's tight. 622 00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 2: It's just you know, it allowed for the better team 623 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 2: to give him better chance, to give him more of 624 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 2: a chance to win. 625 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 3: It does only Look, we've seen teams come back from 626 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 3: three to one deficits all the time, not not all 627 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 3: the time, you know what I mean, Red Sox, Yankees, 628 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 3: the Dodgers did it to the Braves in the NLCS 629 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 3: in the bubble. You know, it does happen. I think 630 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 3: the Cleveland Cubs World Series that happened. So we've seen 631 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 3: it happen in the past. But you know, even Dave 632 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 3: Roberts said after the Dodgers got swept, he was like, 633 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 3: you know, even if it was a seven game series, 634 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 3: were down three to zero. I mean, now, maybe the 635 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 3: circumstance in game three is different, maybe they win. Did 636 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 3: you to your point, they're not pressing as much? 637 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 2: Who knows? 638 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 3: Because I mean they did some out of character things 639 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 3: in that game. Milkie Bats and Freddie Freeman are swinging 640 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 3: that pitches. I've never seen them swing yet before. Yeah, 641 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 3: so I mean that that tells you something there, But 642 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 3: how big of a difference it would have made, I'm 643 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 3: not really sure. In the grants game, I do think 644 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 3: they will ultimately end up change getting By the way, 645 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 3: it's more money from Ajor League Baseball, So why would 646 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 3: they say no to it? 647 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 2: Exactly? 648 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 3: The big issue before they was like, well, we don't 649 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 3: want the World Series to end in November. Ends of 650 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 3: November anyway, so what's three more free or formal days? 651 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 2: Who cares? Exactly? So you got while you got the 652 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 2: floor it's with I'm trending, all. 653 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 3: Right, Well I go to the wild Finishing college football 654 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 3: from Friday night, Colorado got out to a twenty nine 655 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 3: to nothing halftime lead over Stanford. The Cardinal did storm 656 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 3: back in the second half. They would tie the game 657 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 3: at thirty six with the field goal at the end 658 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 3: of regulation. After the team's traded touchdowns in the first 659 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 3: overtime session, Stanford interceptor Shada Sanders in the end zone 660 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 3: and then proceeded to kick the game winning field goal 661 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,959 Speaker 3: to pick up just their second victory of the year. 662 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 3: The final score was forty six to forty three. Colorado 663 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 3: falls to four and three on the season. Earlier in 664 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 3: the night, Fresno State improved to six and one. They 665 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 3: defeated Utah State thirty seven to thirty two Tulane five 666 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 3: and one. They pick up a thirty one to twenty 667 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 3: one victory over Memphis. Ohio State star receiver a Mecca 668 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 3: Buca will not play against Purdue today with a knee injury. 669 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 3: The NFL, the Giants will be without starting quarterback Daniel 670 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 3: Jones against Buffalo with a neck injury. Browns quarterback Deshaun 671 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 3: Watson will miss his second straight game with a shoulder issue. 672 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 3: Cleveland will host undefeated San Francisco. Detroit will be without 673 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 3: running back Jamier Gibbs for the second street week as 674 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 3: he can and used to nurse a hamstring injury. Back 675 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 3: to the Fellas. 676 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 2: All right, fellas, and we're brought to you by Progressive Insurance. 677 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 2: Progressive makes bundling easy and affordable. To get a multi 678 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 2: policy discount, I can buying your motorcycle, RV boat adv 679 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 2: whatever you got. Oil protects you to one place, buddle 680 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 2: and save at Progressive dot Com. Coming up, FITZI, I 681 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 2: want to ask you about Citizens Bank Park in what 682 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 2: the and the power of fans And I'm dying to 683 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 2: get your take, both you and Figgy on the power 684 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 2: of fans to really affect the game. Where the fellas. 685 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 2: We'll dive into it coming up next right here on 686 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. 687 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 688 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 5: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 689 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 5: dot Com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen. 690 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 2: Live fellas from the tai Iraq dot com studios Jason 691 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 2: fitz Iman to the g Argana, Kevin Figures the Crew, 692 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 2: Shay Mighty mart So, uh, Fitzy, I've listen. It's my hometown. 693 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm a bit. I grew up there and 694 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 2: I love it and it's part of who I am, 695 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:22,720 Speaker 2: so you know, forgive me, but that ballpark and those people, 696 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I swear that they had something to do 697 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 2: with the Phillies winning. Like it's you know, in an 698 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 2: eerror when we think about home field doesn't really exist 699 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 2: in home court and all this stuff. It was to 700 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 2: me palpable that the Braves just really had a tough 701 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 2: time handle and say, this is back park. 702 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the magical things about certain 703 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: parks in certain sports, you know, because I'm not sure 704 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: that that it makes the same difference in every location, right, 705 00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: Sometimes we overblow what home field and home or can 706 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: mean for a game. But I think you're right in 707 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: this situation, especially because of the way playoff baseball feels 708 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: at night, and especially the way certain crowds feel when 709 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: they're right on top of you. And a buddy of 710 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: mine that played for years and the Biggs always told 711 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: me that, Like, there's just certain there are certain atmospheres 712 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: that do absolutely like as a player, you feel it. 713 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: You feel the energy in the crowd, you feel the 714 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: momentum in the crowd. I think it hits differently for 715 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: a baseball game than it does for most home games 716 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: in the NFL. I think when you start talking about 717 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: which sports are most impacted by home field, I think 718 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: baseball and college football are the two that stand out 719 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 1: to me where the crowd can make the biggest difference 720 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: in the way the game actually plays out. 721 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 2: Fig what's your thought about that? 722 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 3: At one hundred percent agree, there are just certain not 723 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 3: even necessarily palaces, but just atmospheres that you feel in 724 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 3: certain sports where the energy from the crowd I think 725 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 3: really affects players and it's an intimidation factor, you know. 726 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 3: I feel like the Boston Red Sox when they had 727 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 3: their runs, you know, was kind of one of those parks. 728 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 3: They can be down nine to one in the fifth 729 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 3: and you know, a guy gets on base and Ortiz 730 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 3: hits a double, and all of a sudden, that crowd's 731 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 3: energized and you can almost feel the other side the 732 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 3: other dugout crumbling a little bit. And I think the 733 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 3: Phillies have that sort of feel to them. There's only 734 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 3: a select number of parks that are like that in 735 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 3: any particular sport. Philadelphia is definitely one of them. And 736 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 3: I think, you know, a place like Finway is one 737 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 3: of those two where you just you never feel like 738 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 3: you're out of a game because that home crowd, once 739 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 3: they get into it, you know, there's an intimidation factor 740 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 3: where it's, man, here we go again. This team's coming back. 741 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 3: They're not gonna quit. 742 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:40,280 Speaker 2: And the people see the people they care so deeply, 743 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 2: Like every fan cares, right, So I'm not telling you 744 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 2: that they care more than other fans, but the sheer 745 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 2: volume of fandom, I think, and their ferocity of their fandom, 746 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 2: I think makes it. You know, on that next level, 747 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 2: is that fair fitsy. 748 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 1: Oh, look one hundred percent. Let me be clear. Having 749 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: lived all over the country in my life, you know 750 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: there are certain areas you move to and you look 751 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: around and say, man, I had no idea, And I'll 752 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: be honest, I didn't know that until I moved up 753 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: into New England at the time. In Connecticut, I was 754 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: really stunned, because you know, you learn different things different markets. 755 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 1: Like when I moved to the South and I looked 756 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: around and I was like, Okay, college football really does 757 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 1: hit differently down here than a does in other places 758 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: that I've lived. When I moved up to New England 759 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: and that area in general, the Northeast in general, and 760 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: you drive around and you see what baseball means as 761 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: a part of society. Like the most stunning thing to 762 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 1: me when I moved up there culturally was that I 763 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 1: had so many adult friends that were like, oh yeah, 764 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,879 Speaker 1: Like I've got a close friend that's going next week 765 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,919 Speaker 1: to a huge adult baseball tournament in Arizona's what he does, 766 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: and like he's taking a kid with him for the 767 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,800 Speaker 1: first time. And it's like the number of adults I 768 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: know that are still playing because they want some outlet 769 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: to play baseball that were former athletes blah blah blah, 770 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,320 Speaker 1: Like all of that lives exist real in that Northeast area. 771 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: I think baseball matters. You know, to use the sec phrase, 772 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: it just means more in that part of the country. 773 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: It just means more when you see the crowds, when 774 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: you see the lifestyle, when you see what it means 775 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: in the middle of the offseason and people are still 776 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: repping their stuff, like that didn't exist in other places 777 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 1: I lived as a kid, one hundred. 778 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 2: Percent well, Boston. Boston's great baseball team. I think you 779 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 2: find that in Saint Louis and Los Angeles. I mean, 780 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 2: I mean, like I make sports like in my town. 781 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 2: It's across the board because you see how they are 782 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 2: the Eagle like they travel took over La La this weekend. 783 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly, and there are certain markets that all sports 784 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: do well. I'm just like I've spent a pretty good amount, 785 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,720 Speaker 1: Like I went to World Series game in Saint Louis, 786 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: Like I've been to games in Saint Louis, and Saint 787 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 1: Louis is a great baseball city. I don't know that 788 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: I was ready until I moved up into the Northeast 789 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 1: in general, for the fact that, like in the middle 790 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 1: of February, somebody's gonna be yelling at you about some 791 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: baseball thing while They're like, it's just the level of 792 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,879 Speaker 1: obsession of different. Yeah, I mean, it's just it hits 793 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 1: different in Boston, Philly, New York, that whole area. The 794 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: passion for the sport hit different. 795 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, fig I agree, you know, having only I've only 796 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 3: been to Boston a couple of times, but I mean 797 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 3: the passion around that team, regardless of the time of year, 798 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 3: is another level that I've never seen. And I grew 799 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 3: up in Los Angeles my entire life, and I know 800 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 3: the passion they have for the Dodgers. It just hits 801 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 3: different at certain levels. To your point, Fitsy about the 802 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 3: feel and the sec about that it's the exact same 803 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 3: way there and there are certain cities in Philadelphia to 804 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 3: your point, because it's the same way or around all 805 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 3: of its sports. That's what makes it so intimidating playing 806 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 3: in a place like that, especially when those teams are good. 807 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's Scott, Like I could tell you, like 808 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 2: we celebrate here like the game day starts. It's a weekend, 809 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:56,280 Speaker 2: like everything weekday, and everything stops, like work stops, productivity stops, 810 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,720 Speaker 2: and in the good in the best way, all violent 811 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 2: prime stops, which is the most beautiful byproduct of this 812 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 2: whole run is I've seen it last year and I've 813 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 2: seen it in the past, and this stuff just brings 814 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 2: people together, and to me, that's the greatest thing ever 815 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 2: to bring us all together. Sports built churches, my friends, 816 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 2: we'll come back, Big hour football coming up right here, 817 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Well, good morning, good morning, good morning everybody. 818 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 2: Well we hope your weekend is off to a great start. 819 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 2: Where the fellas Jason Fitz, Anthony Garganto, my man Kevin Figures, 820 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 2: Mighty Mark and of course my main man Shay, and 821 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 2: we come to you a live from the ti rack 822 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 2: dot Com studios. Tyrack dot com. We're up. You get 823 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,760 Speaker 2: there on matt selection, fast free shipping, free roadhiser protection, 824 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 2: over ten thousand recommended installars, ti rack dot com the 825 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,800 Speaker 2: way tire buying should be. And we're brought to you 826 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 2: by Discover Card Debit. 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Did you see the way the Vegas 836 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 1: Golden Knights started the season. 837 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 2: I'm sticking off your buddy the banner raising. 838 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,800 Speaker 1: Oh. I had all the feels, and I realized that 839 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: I was stupid and should have flown out there for 840 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 1: that game, because yeah, you should, like, Yeah, there's this 841 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 1: moment of like, as somebody that was in the room 842 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: for Game one in the Stanley Cup Final, I had 843 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: the opportunity but didn't go to Game five, couldn't get 844 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,240 Speaker 1: across country for it. And then I went to the parade. 845 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,959 Speaker 1: There's just this moment for me where that I didn't 846 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,439 Speaker 1: realize how special the start of a new season would feel. 847 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,800 Speaker 1: All I was in my fields with the slot machine, 848 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: with the three Stanley Cubs, and all of a sudden, 849 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 1: look old Stanley Cubb and then they lifted all God, 850 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,319 Speaker 1: it felt good. It felt good. Then they went out 851 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,359 Speaker 1: and just just kicked unop. I mean, just a good 852 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 1: way to start this season, Like you want all the 853 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: good feels to last a little bit longer and that 854 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: sort of ceremony definitely accomplished that. 855 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was cool that nobody does like production the 856 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,839 Speaker 2: way the Knights do it. Like their production. It really 857 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 2: is like a like a Vegas show, like it's you know, 858 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,839 Speaker 2: it's you two with this fear right, like it's it's 859 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 2: all that. Man, it really is unbelievable. 860 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,840 Speaker 1: But that speaks to something you were just talking about 861 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 1: about Philly, Like I think the best franchise when we 862 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,359 Speaker 1: look at and say, okay, what makes this franchise work? 863 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 1: Why is why? Why are fans so passionate about it? 864 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: The best franchises find a way to represent the communities 865 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 1: that they're part of. Like it's just they become intertwined 866 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 1: as some fabric. And I think, you know, as a 867 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 1: Vegas kid, that's part of what I think. My beloved 868 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 1: Raiders are still working on a Vegas. Like the Raiders 869 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 1: have their own identity, Vegas has its own identity. How 870 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: do you merge those? It's almost like merging two families, right, 871 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 1: But the Golden Knights were born out of that identity 872 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,879 Speaker 1: and from the outset said I want to be part 873 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 1: of this, like you know, somebody who lived in Nashville 874 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 1: for so long and have followed the Preds closely. Like 875 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 1: I think one thing they've done brilliantly is they've been 876 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 1: very Nashville and everything that they do, and like it's 877 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 1: you know, that's that's what the best ones do, Like 878 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,360 Speaker 1: the Phillies represent Philer, like the Eagles represent Philly, like 879 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,240 Speaker 1: the best places represent their cities. 880 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 2: Well, the athletes also get it right, like so like 881 00:43:55,640 --> 00:44:01,320 Speaker 2: the players have to embrace their chalns. Why like Bryce Harper, 882 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 2: you know, being like he had a sports jacket on 883 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 2: inside was the skyline of the city, like you know, 884 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's just rare that you get, like 885 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 2: you got to embrace your town. Like that's I think 886 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 2: that's part of the pack between especially a superstar in 887 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 2: a city. It's why, you know, I think it's it's cool. 888 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,839 Speaker 2: I think that adds to it all. By the way, 889 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:35,240 Speaker 2: it is a we have like two incredible football games today, 890 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 2: Like I mean, there's a slew of them, but there's 891 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,399 Speaker 2: two that just stand out just in a monster way. 892 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 2: I mean, when you look at Oregon and Washington Battle 893 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,359 Speaker 2: of Unbeaten's three point thirty, I think a big link 894 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 2: who was an original fell at of and I think 895 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 2: Man Washington or again in two stuid squads. That's good. 896 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,760 Speaker 2: That's a great football game thingy. 897 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 3: I mean, the most important matchup these two teams have 898 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 3: had in ever. I think it is the first time 899 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 3: they've ever been in the top ten. The problem is, 900 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 3: when Washington had its great years, you know, back when 901 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 3: Link was there in like the nineties and early two thousands, 902 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,239 Speaker 3: Oregon was terrible. And then when Oregon was kind of 903 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 3: on its rise under Bellatti and Chip Kelly, Washington was 904 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,359 Speaker 3: kind of, you know, muddling in the muck with Kyle 905 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,399 Speaker 3: Whittingham and the likes. So this is the first time, 906 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 3: and it's again We've said it all season long, and 907 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 3: we'll continue to say it, how unfortunate it is for 908 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,359 Speaker 3: the PAC twelve, because this is gonna be a big 909 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,800 Speaker 3: ten game next year and for many. 910 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 1: Years to come. 911 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,799 Speaker 3: You knowable amazingly bad this year is for We've talked 912 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 3: for so many years about how you know, and we've 913 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,800 Speaker 3: had these debates between Anthony and myself and when Lincoln 914 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 3: was here Fitzy about the SEC and how great it 915 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 3: is over the PAC twelve and outside of Georgia. I 916 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 3: don't know if there's another team including Alabama, that's as 917 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,879 Speaker 3: good as Washington or Oregon in the SEC this year. Yeah, 918 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 3: I don't be able to say that. 919 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 1: I think you're right, by the way. I think if 920 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 1: I had a vote right now, this would be one 921 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 1: of the biggest games we could see to figure out 922 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,759 Speaker 1: which one of these teams deserves to be number two, 923 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,400 Speaker 1: number three, number four, somewhere in that range. I mean, like, 924 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 1: what I think people are going to find out today, 925 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 1: in this afternoon with this game. And I love the 926 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 1: fact that it's in the middle of the day. I 927 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 1: love the fact that it's going to get a lot 928 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 1: of eyeballs. What people are going to find out is 929 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 1: that this is not the pack twelve to ten years ago. 930 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 1: We keep saying that on this show. I think you 931 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 1: got to remember that Oregon plays really physical. They can 932 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,760 Speaker 1: just beat you up. But guess what, so does Washington. 933 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,359 Speaker 1: Like you know, the bow Knicks of old, Like I've 934 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 1: spent years saying BO giveth them, BO take it away, 935 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,919 Speaker 1: Like home bow versus road bow is a real thing, 936 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 1: you know, just trying to figure out what that looks 937 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 1: like for Bo Knicks. But Michael Pennix Junior is somebody 938 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 1: that is putting up video game like numbers himself. I mean, 939 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 1: this is really a prove it game for two Heisman 940 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 1: candidates against two really well rounded teams that play solid defense. 941 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 1: I just I don't think either of these teams is 942 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 1: getting the respect that they deserve in the national conversation. 943 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 1: And this is the sort of resume win that will 944 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: create that like it or not? 945 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely right. You're you're right. That is the 946 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 2: resume win that'll be you know, that'll that'll that will resonate. 947 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,800 Speaker 2: I'm curious, like when I look at these two teams, 948 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I think I like Washington in this game, 949 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 2: but you know, obviously Home the whole thing. But they're 950 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 2: so even, and I look at the stage like that, 951 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 2: you know, you got to just death rivals close by. 952 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 2: I mean it, I mean if this is one of these, 953 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 2: like you know, watershed games in college football all year. 954 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 1: FITZI yeah it is. And that's why I mean, I'm 955 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 1: leaning Washington in this one because ty Go's to the batter, right, 956 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 1: ty gos to the better Coulter back exactly, I think. 957 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,359 Speaker 1: But you know, like I said, the hardest part about 958 00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 1: Bo Nicks and this goes all the way back to Bow. 959 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 1: You know before Oregon is that bo at Home is 960 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 1: an American treasure that makes play after play after play, 961 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 1: and Bow on the Road makes play after play after 962 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 1: play for the wrong team. Now that that's gotten better 963 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,360 Speaker 1: this year, but also it's just it's part of the 964 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 1: fabric a big game, Bow in the past on the road. 965 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 1: So I think this is really interesting because of the quarterbacks, 966 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,879 Speaker 1: Like that's that becomes the tiebreaker. It's the reason I'm 967 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 1: over obsessed on it. But man, when we look back 968 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 1: at the end of the year, this is going to 969 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 1: be one of the two or three. You know, they 970 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 1: always talk to Playoff Committee talks about important wins and 971 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 1: game control and all these things in environment, and like 972 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,320 Speaker 1: all of this is factored in to the playoff committee 973 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,720 Speaker 1: when they make decisions. You can't tell me that, especially 974 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,279 Speaker 1: knowing that the first playoff ranking is only a couple 975 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 1: of weeks away, that the Playoff Committee won't overreact to 976 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 1: whatever team wins this game. So I think that's just why, 977 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,360 Speaker 1: like I feel like I'm giving the edge to Washington, 978 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 1: and that's because I'm giving benefit of the doubt to Penix. 979 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 1: But man, this is everything's on the line for these 980 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:55,839 Speaker 1: two teams in this one. 981 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, like I feel or me, if this was on 982 00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,359 Speaker 3: a neutral field, to be honest with you, I would 983 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,360 Speaker 3: take Oregon. I do think they're better, a little bit 984 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 3: better in the trenches. They're a little bitter defensively, and 985 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 3: Washington is not bad defensively. I just think Oregon's a 986 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 3: little better. But to your point, Pinnick's the better quarterback 987 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 3: bo Knicks, and he's shown some moxie. They got down 988 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 3: big to Texas Tech on the road. Not that Texas 989 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 3: Tech is great this year, but you're on the road. 990 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,760 Speaker 3: That's a tough place to play for anybody in any conference, 991 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 3: and they were able to come back and get that victory. 992 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, the margin is just so thin. Like so 993 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 3: if I had to pick somebody right now, would be Washington. 994 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 3: Talk to me in two hours and I might pick Oregon. 995 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 3: It's that close, you know. And one good thing that 996 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 3: we've never been able to say, at least it's been 997 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 3: a long time. Whoever loses this game, I think still 998 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 3: has a chance to make the playoff. They can end 999 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 3: up facing each other again in the PAC twelve Championship. 1000 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,440 Speaker 3: Both of these teams still play, sc still play, Oregon 1001 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,840 Speaker 3: State still play Utah. All those teams are ranked. You know, 1002 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,919 Speaker 3: I think Oregon Washington plays or excuse me, Oregon plays 1003 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,719 Speaker 3: UCLA at some point. So the Pac twelve is so 1004 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,240 Speaker 3: deep this year, you're gonna have a lot of ranked 1005 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,279 Speaker 3: wins under your belt. So if Oregon loses this game 1006 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 3: and that's the one loss and they go back into 1007 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 3: the Pac twelve championship game and play Washington again and 1008 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,879 Speaker 3: get a victory, who's to say they're not the representative 1009 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,200 Speaker 3: one of the teams representing the Pac twelve in the 1010 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,400 Speaker 3: in the national playoff. I think that can actually happen. 1011 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, And by the way, like, how weird is it? 1012 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,880 Speaker 1: Because you mentioned earlier two teams it won't be in 1013 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,360 Speaker 1: the Pac twelve next year, we can say the exact 1014 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,240 Speaker 1: same thing about the eventual I hope we get rematch 1015 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,759 Speaker 1: between Texas and Oklahoma. Oh yeah, two teams that won't 1016 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 1: be in the Big twelve fighting for the Big twelve 1017 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,480 Speaker 1: championship to then make the College Football Playoff. Like it's 1018 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,759 Speaker 1: a weird year, You'll just weird it is. 1019 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:36,880 Speaker 2: It's bizarre. And you know there's another great game tonight 1020 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,240 Speaker 2: seven thirty East to four thirty Pacific, and it involves 1021 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:46,200 Speaker 2: another Pac twelve team as well. For now, Notre Dame USC. 1022 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 2: Like I know IRIS got two losses, I don't care. 1023 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 2: I love this game. I cannot wait to see Caleb 1024 00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:00,239 Speaker 2: Williams in this stage. I think Notre Dame is going 1025 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 2: to be really good. I love its two storied rivals. 1026 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 2: I cannot wait to watch. This is a game that 1027 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,680 Speaker 2: I can't wait. My son has a football game at 1028 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,719 Speaker 2: six o'clock and I just can't wait to come in 1029 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:14,799 Speaker 2: because it's gonna rain. 1030 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 1: Here. 1031 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:19,400 Speaker 2: Nestle in, make a cocktail and then that'sal in for 1032 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,360 Speaker 2: Little Irish USC. 1033 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 3: How about the Irish being two point I think it's 1034 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:25,279 Speaker 3: up to two and a half point four. 1035 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:26,320 Speaker 2: Now look at that. 1036 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, but isn't that all just a statement about the 1037 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 1: fact that USC's defense is just yes, a level of 1038 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 1: garbage like yes hot, like Sam Hartman. I thought would 1039 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,960 Speaker 1: be more explosive. I thought estimate would be given the 1040 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,200 Speaker 1: ball more. They haven't done some of the things I 1041 00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,400 Speaker 1: think they could have done offensively Notre Dame. That is 1042 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,760 Speaker 1: in play calling. But if you can't get right against 1043 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,360 Speaker 1: this defense for USC, then you might as well just 1044 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:50,920 Speaker 1: pack it up and be like, sorry, guys, I'll just 1045 00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,799 Speaker 1: see you next year. Like, this defense is atrocious. Notre 1046 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 1: Dame should be able to run the football on him, 1047 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,759 Speaker 1: should be able to find plays. But the thing of 1048 00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,480 Speaker 1: it is just remember USC knows that, like we were 1049 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 1: talking about earlier, like maybe maybe Coach Prime just doesn't 1050 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,040 Speaker 1: care about the trenches. Maybe Lincoln Riley just doesn't care 1051 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 1: about defense because he doesn't have to because like they're 1052 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,840 Speaker 1: going to put points up on Notre Dames. So, like, 1053 00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 1: I think this is gonna be one of the more 1054 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,080 Speaker 1: interesting versions of this rivalry we've seen in years. 1055 00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know the issue of Notre Dame that you're 1056 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,200 Speaker 3: figuring out the deeper you get, they just don't have 1057 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,439 Speaker 3: the guys at the skill position, players like as great 1058 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 3: as Sam Hartman is, Like none of these receivers they 1059 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 3: thought were gonna be playmakers. Where there's Jayden Thomas, Chris Tyree, 1060 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:28,680 Speaker 3: got a lot of hype from some people. They just 1061 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,680 Speaker 3: aren't making plays. We come back. Michael Meyer had been 1062 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 3: their guy for four straight years and you look up 1063 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,279 Speaker 3: and they're leading receivers another tight end with twenty two 1064 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 3: receptions through six games. They just don't have they they 1065 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,759 Speaker 3: don't have the horses at the skill positions. As great 1066 00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,120 Speaker 3: of a player as Sam Hartman is, you gotta have 1067 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:45,719 Speaker 3: the guys who can make plays for you, and I 1068 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,480 Speaker 3: think that's the biggest thing holding them back. So to 1069 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 3: your guys's point, if ever you're gonna make hey, it's 1070 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 3: gonna be against USC. Every single team US he has 1071 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,799 Speaker 3: played this year, That offense has had its best day 1072 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,839 Speaker 3: every single opponent. So if Notre Dame is actually gonna 1073 00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:03,120 Speaker 3: make offensively through the air, it's gonna be against USC 1074 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:04,080 Speaker 3: later today, you. 1075 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,440 Speaker 1: Know, and quickly I will add to this, Like you mentioned, 1076 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:09,919 Speaker 1: they're letting Hartman down a little bit from a skill 1077 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,319 Speaker 1: position group. This is where the transfer portal can get 1078 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,839 Speaker 1: a little tricky because you only have Hartman for one year, 1079 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 1: Like you needed to get the most out of him 1080 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,200 Speaker 1: this year, because next year you're gonna be diving right 1081 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,279 Speaker 1: back in trying to figure out what you're doing long 1082 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,440 Speaker 1: term quarterback. Right So it's just interesting to see what 1083 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 1: feels like a lost season for Notre Dame. But you know, 1084 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,279 Speaker 1: Michael Junior and my buddy for the longest time when 1085 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:33,920 Speaker 1: he played for Notre Dame, he always told me the 1086 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,920 Speaker 1: whole season doesn't matter as long as you beat usc 1087 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,480 Speaker 1: like that's real for them. I think Notre Dame comes 1088 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,319 Speaker 1: out with the thunder of the gods in this game. 1089 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 1: They're trying. They got to find a way to try 1090 00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:43,920 Speaker 1: and stay competitive. 1091 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:50,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. I like the Irish start, although I cannot wait. 1092 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,200 Speaker 2: I love watching Caleb Williams play. And I think you 1093 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:58,520 Speaker 2: nailed it earlier about the sc defense. But man, Caleb Williams. 1094 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,640 Speaker 2: You know what's funny the scouts. I was every week 1095 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,440 Speaker 2: like there's a new scout who says something that you know, 1096 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:11,359 Speaker 2: they would take Caleb Williams right now over Mahomes over 1097 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 2: where Peyton Manning was at that point. And remember how 1098 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:19,120 Speaker 2: polished Peyton was as a junior. He comes back to 1099 00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,680 Speaker 2: Tennessee for his senior but he, you know, he and 1100 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,480 Speaker 2: Andrew luck were both after their junior years clearly the 1101 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,840 Speaker 2: number one overall and everybody thought that they were the 1102 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:32,200 Speaker 2: most polished quarterbacks. And scouts are saying that Caleb Williams 1103 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:33,640 Speaker 2: is better. Wow. 1104 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 1: I just I want that for Caleb Williams, and I 1105 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,880 Speaker 1: want that for the NFL, and I want all of 1106 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 1: this to work out perfectly. I just also want to 1107 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,439 Speaker 1: remind everybody that you know, it takes a second, because 1108 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,719 Speaker 1: just the way we're talking about Caleb Williams right now, 1109 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 1: it's just it feels like people think he's gonna come 1110 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,960 Speaker 1: in the NFL and all of a sudden, you know, 1111 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,759 Speaker 1: just anoint him as the next great thing. I just, man, 1112 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I want Caleb Williams to 1113 00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,640 Speaker 1: be really good. But also it's even taking a second 1114 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,880 Speaker 1: for Trevor Lawrence to acclimate, right like it took a 1115 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,800 Speaker 1: second for Peyton Manning to acclimate. So I just I 1116 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 1: hope we can all like pull back a little bit 1117 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 1: on this because there are so many fan bases right 1118 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,480 Speaker 1: now obsessing over this kid being a franchise saver. Like 1119 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:15,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, I think that's a lot. 1120 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:19,239 Speaker 2: To pull, but I'll say this to you, and you know, listen, 1121 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,719 Speaker 2: in that league, to bring it back to the start 1122 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,520 Speaker 2: of the show, you got to protect Caleb Williams, like, 1123 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 2: you know, without without a low line that's good. You 1124 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,560 Speaker 2: know you're gonna waste him. So I'm with you that said, 1125 00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,080 Speaker 2: he's his close set. Like when we talk about NBA tanks, 1126 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,440 Speaker 2: right like, you know I'm tanking for this guy, tank 1127 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,280 Speaker 2: for that guy. I would tank for Caleb Williams. 1128 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I remember we talked about Andrew Luck 1129 00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,840 Speaker 3: when he was a sophomore at Stanford, and you know, 1130 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 3: he pretty much came in and excelled from day one. 1131 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,240 Speaker 3: You know, he's kind of getting those same platitudes Caleb Williams, 1132 00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,520 Speaker 3: and he's like even a better you know, mover, you know, freelancer, 1133 00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,560 Speaker 3: more of him, a Homes type player than even Luck was. 1134 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,759 Speaker 3: Holmes wasn't even Mahomes. He was what the tenth pick 1135 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,400 Speaker 3: and they traded up to get him. So yeah, I mean, 1136 00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,759 Speaker 3: this guy's getting a lot of juice. And the majority 1137 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,480 Speaker 3: of the time when someone's getting this much hype, you know, 1138 00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,560 Speaker 3: they end up usually if they go to the right 1139 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,200 Speaker 3: place and they have the right head on their shoulders, 1140 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,640 Speaker 3: which it seems like he does, things end up working 1141 00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,000 Speaker 3: out for him. And absolutely he does. 1142 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,040 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, well if he. 1143 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:20,680 Speaker 1: Goes to Denver, I can't work out for him. I'm 1144 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,239 Speaker 1: just right now. Well, like y'all, there is not enough 1145 00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,000 Speaker 1: alcohol for me to have to take on Mahomes, Caleb 1146 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,440 Speaker 1: Williams and Justin Herbert for the next fifteen years out. 1147 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,680 Speaker 1: I'm done, like me both. Yeah, I'm just gonna put 1148 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,239 Speaker 1: I'll put like sheets over all my Raiders stuff like, 1149 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,800 Speaker 1: you know, just cover it all up so nobody sees it, 1150 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 1: and I'll just wait till the next generation to try. 1151 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 3: Dude, what's wrong? God, dude, No, No, it is the coaching, right. 1152 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,160 Speaker 3: It was the worst coaching job in NFL history last year, 1153 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,960 Speaker 3: right for the Broncos. So that that's what was wrong 1154 00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:50,319 Speaker 3: with him. 1155 00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, but there are seven teams in the NFL with 1156 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,040 Speaker 1: one or less wins, so let's just remember that. There 1157 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,000 Speaker 1: are a lot of teams that are actively out there 1158 00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,800 Speaker 1: that just stink thish. So we'll see how that actually played. 1159 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,240 Speaker 1: The Broncos will screwed up and win someone. 1160 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:05,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1161 00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just just Sean Payton to have the arrogance 1162 00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,520 Speaker 3: of what he said in that USA Today article is 1163 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 3: just getting shoved right back into his face right now. 1164 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:18,480 Speaker 2: No, karma, man, yep, karma. It's amazing, it is. It 1165 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:22,640 Speaker 2: is the truth. Beware my friends, beware of karma. Man. 1166 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,680 Speaker 2: It's the truth, by the way, fellas, brought to you 1167 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:31,520 Speaker 2: by of course, Discover and Progressive. We'll tell you all 1168 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:35,200 Speaker 2: about those. We got lots to get to today and 1169 00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,520 Speaker 2: come it up. I want to get back to the 1170 00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:41,120 Speaker 2: NFL a little bit, and I want to tie into 1171 00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:45,400 Speaker 2: the Niners and see what the Fellas takes on the 1172 00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:50,080 Speaker 2: Niners and if they are the true dominant team. We'll 1173 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,680 Speaker 2: discuss the power of the NFL coming up next. We 1174 00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:59,400 Speaker 2: are the Fellas right here on Fox Sports Radio. Fellas, 1175 00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:09,520 Speaker 2: welcome back, Hey football fans. We are uh, we are 1176 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 2: excited for all this stuff. Man. Every week, man, we 1177 00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:18,080 Speaker 2: get nuts. We love this stuff and uh we get 1178 00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,040 Speaker 2: we get crazy with it. We can't wait. It's so 1179 00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,680 Speaker 2: much fun. Fellas. Brought to you by Discover That's right. 1180 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:31,240 Speaker 2: Progressive makes excuse me, by Progressive insurance. Progressive makes buddling 1181 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,560 Speaker 2: easy and affordable. You get a multi political discount by 1182 00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,240 Speaker 2: combining your motorcycle, RV, boat, ATV whatever, you got, all 1183 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,720 Speaker 2: your production, all your production one place. Buddel save progressive 1184 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,040 Speaker 2: dot com boys. Let me ask you, because you know, 1185 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:50,040 Speaker 2: the Niners making such a dramatic statement right like they 1186 00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:55,080 Speaker 2: just buried the cowboy buried them, and I'm hearing all 1187 00:58:55,200 --> 00:59:00,680 Speaker 2: kinds of love for party and deservedly so are the 1188 00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:05,920 Speaker 2: Niners that you know kind of first half early season 1189 00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:11,400 Speaker 2: power that ultimately will kind of fall by the wayside. 1190 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:13,960 Speaker 2: Are they truly that dominant? 1191 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,560 Speaker 1: I think they're truly that dominant. And you know it's 1192 00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,640 Speaker 1: not just about party. In fact, perty was the great 1193 00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,040 Speaker 1: question mark coming into the season. Sure, but when you 1194 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,320 Speaker 1: think about sort of the way they've looked, when you 1195 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,720 Speaker 1: think about their coaching staff, when you think about their 1196 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,240 Speaker 1: front office, when you think about the aggressiveness last year 1197 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,560 Speaker 1: in acquiring CMC and what that's meant for them this year, 1198 00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,080 Speaker 1: when you think about their roster top to bottom, Like, 1199 00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,040 Speaker 1: if you just start asking yourself the basic question of 1200 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,000 Speaker 1: take my favorite team, how many players on my favorite 1201 00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,440 Speaker 1: team would start on a great team. The answer to 1202 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,040 Speaker 1: that question for San Francisco is most of them. Like, 1203 00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:48,960 Speaker 1: they've got star skill position players. They've got star defensive players, 1204 00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:52,160 Speaker 1: they've got star offensive linemen. They've got a quarterback that's 1205 00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,640 Speaker 1: playing like a star, Like I don't think that there's 1206 00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:55,920 Speaker 1: anything playing like a star. 1207 00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,760 Speaker 2: He is a manager, Like I know sometimes we say 1208 01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:05,760 Speaker 2: that with like the stain bro, you think he's playing 1209 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:06,160 Speaker 2: like a star. 1210 01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,760 Speaker 1: Huh, here's the thing for me, like you know, And 1211 01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 1: again I'll fly my fandom back into this every single week. 1212 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,240 Speaker 1: The day after the Raiders game, somebody rips the All 1213 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,640 Speaker 1: twenty two film up, puts it up there and shows 1214 01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,680 Speaker 1: you the five or six huge plays that Jimmy g 1215 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,200 Speaker 1: just didn't even see on the field. It happens every 1216 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:25,600 Speaker 1: week like clockwork, and most fans have some account they 1217 01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,520 Speaker 1: followed that does the same thing. Try that with the 1218 01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,760 Speaker 1: forty nine ers. Like the funny thing is people keep 1219 01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,080 Speaker 1: talking about the fact that the weapons get so open, 1220 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,680 Speaker 1: But my challenge is, or my counter to that, is 1221 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,920 Speaker 1: that the quarterback still has to find those people, so 1222 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,000 Speaker 1: has to go through those reads, still has to make 1223 01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:40,800 Speaker 1: the right throw to the right guy in the right 1224 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,120 Speaker 1: pattern at the right place, and those are all things 1225 01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,040 Speaker 1: he does. Like I saw some of a Pro Football 1226 01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,360 Speaker 1: focus this week breaking down the fact that they still 1227 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 1: don't think he's accurate enough and his windows are huge 1228 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,160 Speaker 1: to throw to. And I'm just saying, hey, from an 1229 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,320 Speaker 1: acumen standpoint, dropping back and knowing where to go with 1230 01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,400 Speaker 1: the football, he's far ahead of where people are giving 1231 01:00:58,480 --> 01:00:58,960 Speaker 1: him credit for. 1232 01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,280 Speaker 2: Like I mean, I agree with that, I do. I 1233 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,800 Speaker 2: don't think he's some special quarterback. I mean, I got 1234 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,320 Speaker 2: to keep it real with you, and I think he's 1235 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,080 Speaker 2: a He's a good fit for that team as long 1236 01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,160 Speaker 2: as he can stay healthy, stay healthy. I think his 1237 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:17,800 Speaker 2: windows are really good. Like, I think that's true. You know, 1238 01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,680 Speaker 2: you look at like last week and they throw they 1239 01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:24,800 Speaker 2: throw the kittle. Those touchdowns of Kittle, I mean, you know, 1240 01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,479 Speaker 2: I'm not saying they were easy throws, but they weren't 1241 01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:31,320 Speaker 2: as taxing. I think, as dominant as that team is, 1242 01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,000 Speaker 2: he's a great fit for him, I think right though, 1243 01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:36,800 Speaker 2: that where he knows where to go with the ball. 1244 01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:41,560 Speaker 1: I think my first counter to the concept that he's 1245 01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,520 Speaker 1: maybe not good enough is that, first of all, he's 1246 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,520 Speaker 1: better than Jimmy G was in that office, but even 1247 01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:50,200 Speaker 1: above me on that. If almost any quarterback could succeed 1248 01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:53,000 Speaker 1: in that offense, just to save the egg on their face, 1249 01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,200 Speaker 1: Trey Lance would have been the starter. Right like that, 1250 01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,560 Speaker 1: there's this moment of rock parties coming in and doing 1251 01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,960 Speaker 1: what Trey Lance couldn't do. And he's doing what Jimmy 1252 01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,920 Speaker 1: tried to do, but he's doing it better and more efficiently. 1253 01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:04,840 Speaker 1: Like I think there has to be some credit for that. 1254 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,320 Speaker 1: Jimmy G may not be a great starting quarterback, but 1255 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:09,840 Speaker 1: he's been to the Super Bowl. He's played well enough 1256 01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,360 Speaker 1: to get them there. And brock Perty's playing better than that. 1257 01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:18,080 Speaker 1: I think to some degree, most quarterbacks in the NFL 1258 01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,760 Speaker 1: are going to be behold into whatever system they're in. 1259 01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,120 Speaker 1: So the fact that he's in a good system for him, 1260 01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,280 Speaker 1: I'm not really gonna fault him for that, right Like 1261 01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,720 Speaker 1: I just I think there is some element of Jimmy 1262 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,800 Speaker 1: g that he looks to me like he's gonna be 1263 01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,240 Speaker 1: one of those guys that for the next it's a 1264 01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:35,400 Speaker 1: right now, mister irrelevant. Is the story that holds him 1265 01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,640 Speaker 1: back in three or four years. It's going to be 1266 01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 1: part of his story, the same way Brady's story was 1267 01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:41,800 Speaker 1: always about what round he was picked in. He will 1268 01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,520 Speaker 1: be the forever quarterback that we talk about because of 1269 01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,000 Speaker 1: where he was drafted. I think it's gonna become part 1270 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,520 Speaker 1: of the reason people root for him. To me, he 1271 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,040 Speaker 1: looks like a ten to fifteen year guy for the 1272 01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:51,720 Speaker 1: forty nine ers. 1273 01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:57,760 Speaker 2: Wow, I don't know, Figgie, where are you at with party? 1274 01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:00,960 Speaker 3: I agree with everything that fits said. I mean, you 1275 01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,920 Speaker 3: excel in the situation that you're in. That's all you 1276 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,400 Speaker 3: can ask. And as he's playing like I mean, define star, 1277 01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,240 Speaker 3: I mean, he's what top three and complete your percentage 1278 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,920 Speaker 3: top ten in you know, in total yards, I mean 1279 01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:14,640 Speaker 3: our guys wide open shore, but It's not his fault 1280 01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,560 Speaker 3: that he has a good tactical coach who can get 1281 01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,880 Speaker 3: guys open, and he's quick enough to be able to 1282 01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:21,920 Speaker 3: find the open man. I don't necessarily think that those 1283 01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:23,920 Speaker 3: should be knocks against him. I know he doesn't have 1284 01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,000 Speaker 3: the physical measurables, but what does it matter? Are they 1285 01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,400 Speaker 3: in the lead team? They absolutely are. He's thriving in 1286 01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,680 Speaker 3: the situation that he's in and that's all that you 1287 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:33,840 Speaker 3: can ask for him to do. So I'm not going 1288 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:34,600 Speaker 3: to distract from. 1289 01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,640 Speaker 1: Him, like let's pile on in another way too here, 1290 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:41,320 Speaker 1: because you know, I liked Anthony Richardson coming out, but 1291 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,760 Speaker 1: was scared because he hasn't played enough college football and 1292 01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,560 Speaker 1: we don't know if he's going to look consistent. I 1293 01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,520 Speaker 1: know he's injured now. But Shane Stikeing Stiking and the 1294 01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,400 Speaker 1: Colts get a lot of credit for the way they 1295 01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,040 Speaker 1: immediately developed an offense that he could thrive in. And 1296 01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:55,000 Speaker 1: that makes me think back to Jalen Hurts and the 1297 01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,120 Speaker 1: fact that Shane Stikeen did a beautiful job finding the 1298 01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,080 Speaker 1: things that Jalen Hurts does best and really building an 1299 01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:05,160 Speaker 1: offense around that incredibly capable, good player. While he became 1300 01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:06,880 Speaker 1: a better passer, and all of those other things that 1301 01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,240 Speaker 1: people thought he needed to do. I think we were 1302 01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,440 Speaker 1: two down on hurts in the beginning, and Shane Steikendo 1303 01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,920 Speaker 1: gets a lot of credit for where he's developed to 1304 01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,680 Speaker 1: Why is it that we sit there with a quarterback 1305 01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,880 Speaker 1: like that and we say, oh, well, we'll credit the 1306 01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:22,160 Speaker 1: coaches in the way that they developed the player. But 1307 01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,000 Speaker 1: then we sit here with brought party and we say, oh, 1308 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,520 Speaker 1: there's product of the system. Every quarterback has things they 1309 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:28,160 Speaker 1: do well, and you're going to have to figure out 1310 01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,240 Speaker 1: a way to manipulate what you are. 1311 01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:34,080 Speaker 2: I agree that let's examine it further, because I don't 1312 01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:37,880 Speaker 2: know if I completely agrieving with your hurt stuff. Uh fake, 1313 01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,280 Speaker 2: do me a favor. It's with some trending and then 1314 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:41,320 Speaker 2: let's tackle it all right. 1315 01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,240 Speaker 3: Well, we had an epic comeback in the bag twelve 1316 01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,760 Speaker 3: Friday night, Stanford overcame a twenty nine point halftime deficit 1317 01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:50,080 Speaker 3: to pick up a forty six to forty three overtime 1318 01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,040 Speaker 3: double overtime win at that cardinal, picking up four hundred 1319 01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,640 Speaker 3: and eight of its five hundred and twenty three total 1320 01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,640 Speaker 3: yards of offense in the second half, scored on eight 1321 01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:02,440 Speaker 3: straight possessions to complete the biggest comeback in school history. 1322 01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,400 Speaker 3: With that victory over See You. Earlier in the night, 1323 01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,120 Speaker 3: Fresno State improved to six and one. They picked up 1324 01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,440 Speaker 3: a one at Utah State thirty sevens to thirty two 1325 01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:12,640 Speaker 3: to tu Lane a thirty one to twenty one victory 1326 01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,920 Speaker 3: over Memphis after a couple of fourth quarter scores. Foxy's 1327 01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,800 Speaker 3: a Big newing kickoffill feature second Rik Michigan hosting Indiana 1328 01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,440 Speaker 3: later this afternoon. Some news out of the NFL. The 1329 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:24,520 Speaker 3: Giants will be without starting quarterback Daniel Jones against Buffalo 1330 01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,439 Speaker 3: with a neck injury. Tight End Darren Waller is also 1331 01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,720 Speaker 3: questionable in that game, as is Sakwon Parkley. Brown's quarterback 1332 01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,240 Speaker 3: to Shawn Watson will miss his second consecutive game with 1333 01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:34,400 Speaker 3: a shoulder injury. 1334 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:35,080 Speaker 2: PJ. 1335 01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,200 Speaker 3: Walker will get the start there for Cleveland, who will 1336 01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:40,240 Speaker 3: host undefeated San Francisco, who were just talking about. Detroit 1337 01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,240 Speaker 3: will be without running back Jamior Gibbs for the second 1338 01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,200 Speaker 3: week in a row as he continues to nurse a 1339 01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,360 Speaker 3: hamstring injury. However, Ride receiver aman Ross Saint Brown is 1340 01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:49,919 Speaker 3: expected to play back to the Fellas. 1341 01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,360 Speaker 2: I Fellas from the tire Raq dot com Studios. We're 1342 01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:56,360 Speaker 2: brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Progressive makes pumblic easy 1343 01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,040 Speaker 2: and afford to look at the multi policy discount like 1344 01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:01,480 Speaker 2: a bouying your motorcycle, RV boat ATV whenever you got 1345 01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,960 Speaker 2: all your protection of one place bundled safe Progressive dot Com. 1346 01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:09,400 Speaker 2: The pretty conversation is fascinating and I appreciate your take 1347 01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:13,960 Speaker 2: on it Fitsie and I look at it and I'm 1348 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,440 Speaker 2: not that I'm a detractor because I think he's doing 1349 01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:22,960 Speaker 2: I mean, he's doing his job. I don't know how sustainable. 1350 01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:26,800 Speaker 2: I mean, listen, that team's good, so I think they're legitimate. 1351 01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:30,400 Speaker 2: I also thought they were good last year. And while 1352 01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,320 Speaker 2: people go, well you got hurt, he did, but he 1353 01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:37,200 Speaker 2: was already behind the eight ball. He was already like 1354 01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:38,880 Speaker 2: people think that if he stayed the game, it's a 1355 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,880 Speaker 2: different story. And that game was a blowout waiting to happen. 1356 01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:47,000 Speaker 2: He was in serious distress before it, gets hurt and 1357 01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:51,240 Speaker 2: did nothing, So I don't know. Sometimes you have these 1358 01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:56,000 Speaker 2: images and you see these circumstances and I still got 1359 01:06:56,120 --> 01:07:01,240 Speaker 2: to see him in a stressful situation. Is that fair? 1360 01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,000 Speaker 3: That's true, but that also doesn't give the player rooms 1361 01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:07,080 Speaker 3: to improve either, like Brock Party of twenty twenty two 1362 01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:08,960 Speaker 3: is not necessarily going to be Brock Party of twenty 1363 01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,920 Speaker 3: twenty six, correct, So I think you have to account 1364 01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:12,360 Speaker 3: for that too. 1365 01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,960 Speaker 1: And by the way, like just looking quickly in the 1366 01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:19,000 Speaker 1: world of over the cap and you know they look 1367 01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:23,160 Speaker 1: at future numbers of salary cap. You mentioned twenty twenty six. Well, 1368 01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:25,959 Speaker 1: because Brock Party is so cheap right now in twenty 1369 01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,600 Speaker 1: twenty five, we should remind everybody the forty nine ers 1370 01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:30,880 Speaker 1: right now have thirty two million dollars in space. In 1371 01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, they have one hundred and twenty two 1372 01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,800 Speaker 1: million dollars in space. Like, so the ability of a 1373 01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,760 Speaker 1: strong front office to continue to put strong talent around them, 1374 01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we also have to remember that 1375 01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,800 Speaker 1: there are certain teams to forty nine ers, and the 1376 01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,000 Speaker 1: Chiefs come to mind. They don't miss in the draft 1377 01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:49,480 Speaker 1: very often, and because of that, they constantly have young 1378 01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,520 Speaker 1: talent that's playing above their heads. They're playing really well. 1379 01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:55,040 Speaker 1: They have coaches that can turn around and develop them. 1380 01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,160 Speaker 1: So I think he's going to always have good weapons 1381 01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:58,720 Speaker 1: around him because the trust the way the forty nine 1382 01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:02,320 Speaker 1: ers are running, like just if you're San Francisco. Not 1383 01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,680 Speaker 1: only are you out on the quarterback market because you 1384 01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:06,480 Speaker 1: don't need to be in on the quarterback market in 1385 01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:09,240 Speaker 1: any way, shape or form, but like there's a very 1386 01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,760 Speaker 1: real world in a couple of years where you're gonna 1387 01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:14,560 Speaker 1: get brought perty fifty sixty million dollars a year, Like 1388 01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:16,680 Speaker 1: why would you not at this point? Like what are 1389 01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,080 Speaker 1: you looking for in a quarterback that he doesn't have? 1390 01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:21,639 Speaker 1: So you know, well, let's let's. 1391 01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:23,760 Speaker 2: Like hold on, like before I go, I want to 1392 01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,760 Speaker 2: go write that check. You know, there's a lot there's 1393 01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,720 Speaker 2: a lot of football to me that he's got to 1394 01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:33,400 Speaker 2: show me. I mean again, I brought up last year's 1395 01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:37,400 Speaker 2: playoff game and before he got hurt, he looked like 1396 01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:40,200 Speaker 2: a young quarterback, did he not? Yeah? 1397 01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:41,840 Speaker 1: I mean but he how many starts in? 1398 01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:42,160 Speaker 3: Was he? 1399 01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:42,320 Speaker 6: Like? 1400 01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:47,000 Speaker 2: Like, I can't Picky's point said, Vicky says, give him 1401 01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:50,280 Speaker 2: some time to grow, all right. I agree he should 1402 01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:53,560 Speaker 2: have some time to improve. I completely agree. I'm not 1403 01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:57,200 Speaker 2: I'm not telling you he's you're not going to give him, 1404 01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:01,400 Speaker 2: but it'll run. You made the statement that, well, you know, 1405 01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,920 Speaker 2: why wouldn't you give him fifty sixty million a year. 1406 01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:08,840 Speaker 2: Let me see, like how he progresses, because I don't 1407 01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:10,679 Speaker 2: think you think it's a lock. I don't. 1408 01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,160 Speaker 1: I look at all of this and say, combine the 1409 01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,720 Speaker 1: fact that he was barely it wasn't expected to be 1410 01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:20,160 Speaker 1: the starter last year, then he's put into that situation. 1411 01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,720 Speaker 1: Plays that well. I spent all summer saying, no, it's 1412 01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,320 Speaker 1: not a given that perty's gonna be good enough, especially 1413 01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:27,519 Speaker 1: considering the fact that he missed most of the offseason 1414 01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,200 Speaker 1: with a nobow injury. He comes in from that offseason. 1415 01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:33,160 Speaker 1: I mean, he's never lost a game he started. He 1416 01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:36,120 Speaker 1: is never lost at some point being thirteen and oh 1417 01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:37,439 Speaker 1: is still thirteen? 1418 01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:41,080 Speaker 3: He lost, Okay, he was on his way to losing 1419 01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:44,200 Speaker 3: or four passes? I mean how many how many drives 1420 01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,040 Speaker 3: did he even have? I mean it was a quarter. 1421 01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:47,120 Speaker 2: It was a quarter. 1422 01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:49,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, it was a quarter, and. 1423 01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:52,040 Speaker 2: He was already behind the eight ball. All right, it's 1424 01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:55,240 Speaker 2: all it happens. You know, I'm not some presents behind. 1425 01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:01,160 Speaker 2: I'm just saying I'm not. I'm not ging like, I 1426 01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,760 Speaker 2: don't think it's oh yeah, why would you give him 1427 01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:04,639 Speaker 2: fifty sixty million? 1428 01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,200 Speaker 3: Well, they let me give it to him. Now, I'm saying, 1429 01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,400 Speaker 3: if it continues to go this way. And when he 1430 01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:11,880 Speaker 3: said that, no, I'm. 1431 01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:13,400 Speaker 1: Saying, I'm saying it's inevitable he's going to be a 1432 01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:15,800 Speaker 1: fifty million dollar quarterback. We've just clipped that off and 1433 01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:17,479 Speaker 1: we can play that again in a year and a half. 1434 01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,080 Speaker 1: When you're thirteen and oh, you have the smartest coaches, 1435 01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,559 Speaker 1: you have players around you, like, there's just no reason 1436 01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:24,760 Speaker 1: for them at any point to dip back into the 1437 01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:29,080 Speaker 1: ice thirteen. If C. J. Stroud started thirteen and oh, 1438 01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,000 Speaker 1: we would be sitting here saying, oh my god, if 1439 01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:33,920 Speaker 1: if any quarterbacks selected in the. 1440 01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:37,000 Speaker 2: First yes, the round. If he's doing with it thirteen, 1441 01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:38,519 Speaker 2: not with the Niners. 1442 01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:42,760 Speaker 1: If A if mac Jones had been drafted to the 1443 01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:45,920 Speaker 1: Patriots it you know, the middle of the first round 1444 01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:48,639 Speaker 1: and started thirteen and oh, they would have been ready 1445 01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:50,519 Speaker 1: to throw a parade for him down the middle of 1446 01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:52,640 Speaker 1: the street. Like I Just part of it is that 1447 01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:56,080 Speaker 1: Brock doesn't He just doesn't have this impressive thing that 1448 01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,080 Speaker 1: you look at the you're like, oh, that's my quarterback. 1449 01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:02,640 Speaker 3: Its nothing that a traditional star quarterback. You guys are 1450 01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:05,720 Speaker 3: saying is correct, And that's why I think he's kind 1451 01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:07,479 Speaker 3: of discriminated against us like. 1452 01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,960 Speaker 2: I get where your point is, and I and maybe 1453 01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:13,800 Speaker 2: I'm guilty and I'll raise my hand, but I look 1454 01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:15,840 Speaker 2: at him and I still look at him side eyed, 1455 01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:18,720 Speaker 2: like I think he's got on a great team and 1456 01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:21,080 Speaker 2: he's got great I think everything you shaid, Fitz, he 1457 01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:23,479 Speaker 2: was right, like great coaches, great team. 1458 01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you thrive in that situation. I mean, look, 1459 01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:27,360 Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's not. 1460 01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:29,479 Speaker 2: The roll with it, but you know, and we could 1461 01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,080 Speaker 2: talk about it after they win the Super Bowl, Like 1462 01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,840 Speaker 2: then I go, Okay, well, you know your guys are right. 1463 01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:36,920 Speaker 1: But I will say this, like part of the reason 1464 01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,280 Speaker 1: that Mahome and this is this is comforting to Bears fans, 1465 01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:41,639 Speaker 1: I hope, because they hear Bears fans all the time 1466 01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:44,360 Speaker 1: say we should have taken Patrick Mahomes, you should have 1467 01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:47,000 Speaker 1: I get that. But also Patrick Mahomes is who he 1468 01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:49,200 Speaker 1: is because he got to sit for a year behind 1469 01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:52,240 Speaker 1: Alex Smith. He's admitted that repeatedly in interviews that Alex 1470 01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:54,120 Speaker 1: Smith taught him how to be a pro, how to 1471 01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:56,160 Speaker 1: approach his week, how to break down film, how to 1472 01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:58,360 Speaker 1: go through all of the process of being a pro quarterback. 1473 01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,120 Speaker 1: While he learned from Andy read with no pressure on 1474 01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,280 Speaker 1: him from year one, and then he goes into year 1475 01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:06,360 Speaker 1: two and is able to completely accelerate the process. And 1476 01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:08,640 Speaker 1: they were able to invest in him because they had 1477 01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:10,680 Speaker 1: given him the time in the process around him with 1478 01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,080 Speaker 1: the great coaches and at the time great weapons, and 1479 01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:16,280 Speaker 1: now Mahomes is who Mahomes is. We never apologized for 1480 01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:19,120 Speaker 1: that in that situation. What I'm looking at here is 1481 01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:22,040 Speaker 1: a quarterback that is with a great coach. It's very 1482 01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:24,160 Speaker 1: similar to Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid with a great 1483 01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:27,040 Speaker 1: play caller, very similar to Patrick Mahomes with Andy Reid, 1484 01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:28,439 Speaker 1: like this is no different. 1485 01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:31,000 Speaker 2: But he's got no skill sets like Mahomes does. 1486 01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:31,760 Speaker 6: I mean. 1487 01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:36,519 Speaker 1: My point is that my point is that at some 1488 01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:39,360 Speaker 1: point Mahomes is who he is because he developed the 1489 01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:41,879 Speaker 1: way he developed. He is who he is today because. 1490 01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:47,000 Speaker 2: He also is an increased got a ridiculous arm, but 1491 01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:48,559 Speaker 2: he's an incredible athlete. 1492 01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,679 Speaker 1: You really think that if the Bears had drafted Mahomes 1493 01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:53,400 Speaker 1: and thrust him on the field, that he'd still be 1494 01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:55,320 Speaker 1: the Mahomes he is today. I think that's the course. 1495 01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:57,519 Speaker 2: Listen, you know, I listen. Andy Reid a dear friend 1496 01:12:57,560 --> 01:12:59,920 Speaker 2: of mine, so I know what he does for quarter, 1497 01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:03,600 Speaker 2: and I agree with you that it depends on the 1498 01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:07,240 Speaker 2: place that you go to. But Purdy and Mahomes is 1499 01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:09,680 Speaker 2: an apple and an orange. Well, I mean when it 1500 01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:10,840 Speaker 2: comes to skill set. 1501 01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:13,080 Speaker 1: But but what they're asked to do is an apple 1502 01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:17,600 Speaker 1: is apples and oranges too. Like Kyle Shanahan wants somebody you. 1503 01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,599 Speaker 2: Brought up homes of the conversation, I'm blowing. 1504 01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,479 Speaker 1: But the mahomes port of the conversation is simply about 1505 01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:25,120 Speaker 1: the fact that you have to go to the right place. 1506 01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:27,200 Speaker 1: But we don't fault it for like we don't. 1507 01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:30,439 Speaker 2: But my point to you is I look at his 1508 01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,880 Speaker 2: skill sets and I'm still looking at him side eyed? 1509 01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:35,800 Speaker 2: Did you he though? We got to take a time 1510 01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,280 Speaker 2: out and then we'll dive back into I love. 1511 01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:39,720 Speaker 3: It because I have a parallel to draw that I 1512 01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:41,479 Speaker 3: think might make more sense than I think it might 1513 01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:43,040 Speaker 3: drag you more to our side. 1514 01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:46,000 Speaker 2: Here because okay, I love it with a great conversation. 1515 01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:54,519 Speaker 2: This is this is geek out Fellas right here. Fox 1516 01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:59,479 Speaker 2: Sports Radio on the Fellas from the Tire Rack Dot 1517 01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:05,040 Speaker 2: comes to video brought you by Discover Card Debit. If 1518 01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:09,160 Speaker 2: you like using debit over credit shouldn't you also get rewarded. Well, 1519 01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:12,680 Speaker 2: now you can with discover cash back debit to check 1520 01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:15,720 Speaker 2: incount that rewards everyone with cash back when every day 1521 01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:20,280 Speaker 2: purchases no fees period. All right, check out eligibillion terms, 1522 01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:25,040 Speaker 2: discover that comback slash cash back debit discover back member 1523 01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:28,639 Speaker 2: fdi C all right, boys, yeah, I know, Figgy, we're 1524 01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:32,920 Speaker 2: debating party and listen. I mean you guys should bring 1525 01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:36,519 Speaker 2: up great stuff fits you for a great argument. I'm 1526 01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:41,160 Speaker 2: just not on the predy uh party is Montana since 1527 01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:41,880 Speaker 2: train yet? 1528 01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:43,880 Speaker 3: Don't think either of us said that. By the way, 1529 01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:47,640 Speaker 3: just to just to I mean set the record. He's 1530 01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:48,639 Speaker 3: got a checkbook out. 1531 01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,400 Speaker 1: I mean, fifty million dollars pays you for a pretty 1532 01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:53,880 Speaker 1: good quarterback, not meant Montana. By the time he's up 1533 01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,960 Speaker 1: for his contract, Montana could be like Montana Worthy could 1534 01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:58,240 Speaker 1: be like eighty ninety million. 1535 01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:02,200 Speaker 2: Right, I know, I know he got paper fits man. 1536 01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:04,559 Speaker 2: You know you're already right in to check for the kid. 1537 01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:06,800 Speaker 1: Right, I'm out, I'm out here giving that. You know, 1538 01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:09,800 Speaker 1: my fifty cent royalty check still coming in, going straight 1539 01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:13,000 Speaker 1: to Brock party to give him that London Now, like. 1540 01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,080 Speaker 3: I know, he's not as tall and doesn't have as 1541 01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,599 Speaker 3: strong of an arm, but he plays a pretty similar style. 1542 01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:20,840 Speaker 3: How was brock Purty any different than say a Jared 1543 01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:24,880 Speaker 3: Golf and Jared Goff in the right situation, in the 1544 01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,800 Speaker 3: right circumstance got the Rams to a super Bowl and 1545 01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,720 Speaker 3: they could have very easily beaten the Patriots in that game. 1546 01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,680 Speaker 3: So and is having a resurgence in Detroit playing a 1547 01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:37,280 Speaker 3: similar style. Brock doesn't have to be a superstar. He 1548 01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:38,479 Speaker 3: doesn't have to be Joe Montana. 1549 01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:46,679 Speaker 2: Poor man's golf, poor man's golf. I just he doesn't 1550 01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:47,280 Speaker 2: have the measures. 1551 01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:48,479 Speaker 1: I say, he doesn't have the. 1552 01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:51,639 Speaker 3: Measurables which people hold against him. I really, yes, yes, 1553 01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:53,880 Speaker 3: So that is making a poor man's golf. He just 1554 01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:56,640 Speaker 3: doesn't have the measurables. It kind of that's isn't that 1555 01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:57,280 Speaker 3: the definition? 1556 01:15:58,800 --> 01:15:59,479 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. 1557 01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:02,120 Speaker 3: Usually like you lacking intangible when they you're a poor man. 1558 01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:06,120 Speaker 3: Somebody I met more like you know. I guess it's 1559 01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:07,760 Speaker 3: all about how you take that. I mean, neither of 1560 01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:09,640 Speaker 3: those guys are throwing, you know, zipping a ball in 1561 01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,360 Speaker 3: between you know, a key hole between two defenders. 1562 01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:13,240 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? I mean, GOP's got a 1563 01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:14,040 Speaker 2: decent arm man. 1564 01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:16,599 Speaker 3: That's why he was the first overall pick. 1565 01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:18,840 Speaker 2: For sure. Like I think he's got you know, I 1566 01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,200 Speaker 2: think he's got a better skill set than Party. 1567 01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:23,000 Speaker 3: But I know they play a similar style. 1568 01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:24,160 Speaker 2: Is that not right? I agree? 1569 01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:27,960 Speaker 1: But I think the even bigger point here, though, is 1570 01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:32,080 Speaker 1: we continue to talk about certain quarterbacks that thrive, and 1571 01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:34,720 Speaker 1: part of the reason they're thriving are the coaches they're with. Like, 1572 01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:39,439 Speaker 1: I just think that's listen, I listened that aspect of it. 1573 01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:43,759 Speaker 1: I agree with you, But nobody's qualifying to his success 1574 01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:45,680 Speaker 1: and say, well, it's really because I might be like, 1575 01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:49,000 Speaker 1: nobody's qualifying you know, Coffe success again. 1576 01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:50,960 Speaker 2: But like, I can't tell you. I agree with you 1577 01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:55,960 Speaker 2: when it comes to you know, Shanahan and that whole 1578 01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:59,479 Speaker 2: Sanford I think that they're good, incredible code. 1579 01:16:59,479 --> 01:16:59,640 Speaker 1: I do. 1580 01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:02,599 Speaker 2: I think they're a great team because of the coaching staff. 1581 01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:07,760 Speaker 2: We're just talking Party and I go, okay, like I'm 1582 01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:12,519 Speaker 2: not I'm not gushing now, maybe I'm I'm holding it 1583 01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,160 Speaker 2: against them or whatever you want to say, I'm biased. 1584 01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:18,560 Speaker 2: I look at him and I go all right, like 1585 01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:24,960 Speaker 2: the tangibles are more impressive than the skills the himself. 1586 01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:28,360 Speaker 2: But sure, to your guy's point, what more you want? 1587 01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:30,840 Speaker 3: You're five and oh I'd rather have a guy with 1588 01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:33,519 Speaker 3: his stature with the intangibles than somebody who's six foot 1589 01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:34,599 Speaker 3: six with a rocket arm. 1590 01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:35,160 Speaker 2: I had that. 1591 01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:36,559 Speaker 3: His name is JaMarcus Russell. 1592 01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:40,200 Speaker 1: So how dare you break it is too early in 1593 01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:43,080 Speaker 1: the morning to say those two words in one sentence together. 1594 01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:44,600 Speaker 2: Kit you you have a six sixth guy with a 1595 01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:45,840 Speaker 2: big arm. He's not Marcus. 1596 01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:48,479 Speaker 3: I mean those guys are few and far between. They're 1597 01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:51,400 Speaker 3: called superstar quarterbacks. Anthony's don't just grow on trees. 1598 01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:56,599 Speaker 1: I'm also I'm waiting for the moment that I sit 1599 01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:59,120 Speaker 1: there in any of these games for Brock and I say, 1600 01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:03,360 Speaker 1: good God. The forty nine Ers won despite Rock Party 1601 01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:05,840 Speaker 1: doing his best to just throw that game away. Like 1602 01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:11,599 Speaker 1: we see we see good quarterbacks lose the games. When's 1603 01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:14,680 Speaker 1: when have we seen Rock Party lose the forty nine 1604 01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:17,280 Speaker 1: ers a game? And like we've seen Joe Burrow lose 1605 01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:19,200 Speaker 1: the Bengals games. And I'm not saying Joe Burrow is 1606 01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:20,639 Speaker 1: anything less than excellent. 1607 01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:22,639 Speaker 2: The only way the only time he loses the Bengals 1608 01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:24,160 Speaker 2: games because they can't protect him. 1609 01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:30,200 Speaker 1: Percent. But we are used to seeing great quarterbacks have 1610 01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:32,760 Speaker 1: bad games that cost their team a football game. We 1611 01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:34,000 Speaker 1: haven't even seen that yet. 1612 01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:38,599 Speaker 2: Because those great quarterbacks are quarterbacks that the teams rely 1613 01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,200 Speaker 2: on them to win games. We also haven't seen him 1614 01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:42,479 Speaker 2: win a game. 1615 01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:47,000 Speaker 1: Man. But it's not like they're holding the playbook back 1616 01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:50,400 Speaker 1: from him, like it's they're throwing four times, like. 1617 01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:54,400 Speaker 2: The hoes bails your team out. He's not I'm gonna 1618 01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:55,760 Speaker 2: bail you out quarterback. 1619 01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:59,360 Speaker 1: I mean, right now this year. You're right, he's not 1620 01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:01,320 Speaker 1: a bailout quarterback. I mean, I mean, let's fain. 1621 01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:07,400 Speaker 2: Listen because their defense, Like, listen, there's a certain way 1622 01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:10,519 Speaker 2: to play when you're a plane as a front runner, 1623 01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:13,120 Speaker 2: like and when you have a great defense that's been 1624 01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:18,160 Speaker 2: dominant that allows you to play with ease and calm. 1625 01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:21,600 Speaker 2: I'm not saying he doesn't deserve any accolades. I'm not 1626 01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:25,000 Speaker 2: telling you none of that stuff. My only point to 1627 01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:28,920 Speaker 2: you is I I just slow my role with this. 1628 01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:34,000 Speaker 2: You know, party is all that. I just go all right, 1629 01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:36,800 Speaker 2: like he's playing well. I mean, and it's funny because 1630 01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:39,720 Speaker 2: you take it as a slight and I take it 1631 01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:41,799 Speaker 2: as you are gushing. 1632 01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:46,280 Speaker 1: Well, that's I'm right. You're wrong that's all earned. 1633 01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:50,360 Speaker 2: Gonna hang it, fell as. I love it right here. 1634 01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:59,799 Speaker 2: Fox Sports figure well, good morning, good morning, good morningvery buddy, 1635 01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:06,560 Speaker 2: Happy weekend, Happy Fox Sports Saturday. Fellas hanging with you 1636 01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:10,280 Speaker 2: from the tire rack dot Com studios, tiger rack dot Com. 1637 01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,160 Speaker 2: We're gonna help you get there. An unmett selection fans, 1638 01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:15,559 Speaker 2: free shipping, free road has their protection over ten thousand 1639 01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:19,639 Speaker 2: recommended installers. 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I mean, college football today, 1649 01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:56,640 Speaker 2: Ore again, Washington, USC Notre Dame, right, some of the 1650 01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:01,480 Speaker 2: great great you know, college football stuff. Last night, Colorado 1651 01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:04,720 Speaker 2: going down to Stanford up twenty nine and nothing in 1652 01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:07,760 Speaker 2: a halftime. Wow, amazing, just got off a great debate. 1653 01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:09,200 Speaker 2: I love debating with you, Finci. 1654 01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:11,720 Speaker 1: Well, you know what and we do is there's so 1655 01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:14,519 Speaker 1: much love and hugging and or like you feel it 1656 01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:16,720 Speaker 1: like it feels like a good sports talk where like 1657 01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:19,200 Speaker 1: no matter, no matter who wins or loses the debate, 1658 01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:21,240 Speaker 1: we know that we're gonna have another round of drinks. 1659 01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:23,200 Speaker 1: That's why it works, you know. It's just I agree, 1660 01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:24,400 Speaker 1: that's one thing that works. Yeah. 1661 01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:27,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, like figuring and I've perfected that, like we we 1662 01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:29,720 Speaker 2: and I and I got it. I have it with you. 1663 01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:32,320 Speaker 2: It's one of our first real. 1664 01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:35,360 Speaker 1: Debates, like you know, passionate debates. 1665 01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,200 Speaker 2: I loved it. And your spot on man, which is 1666 01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:42,320 Speaker 2: we get to you know, like I don't believe in 1667 01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:44,880 Speaker 2: right or wrong. It's just you know, it's just it's 1668 01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:48,640 Speaker 2: just perview, is what it is. And I know that 1669 01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:50,880 Speaker 2: I you need to know something I made. When it 1670 01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:56,640 Speaker 2: comes to sports. I like like the big arm quarterback, 1671 01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:00,720 Speaker 2: the guy that throws one hundred right, like I like 1672 01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:03,160 Speaker 2: the big fan. I don't I don't like the underdog. 1673 01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:10,599 Speaker 1: You see, here's the thing. I think at some point 1674 01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:13,160 Speaker 1: I learned to root for the underdog, because what else 1675 01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:15,519 Speaker 1: do I have going for me? Like that that there 1676 01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:17,280 Speaker 1: have been very few times when you think about my 1677 01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:19,920 Speaker 1: life as a fan and just is it like even 1678 01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:22,000 Speaker 1: growing up, if you think about my life as a fan, 1679 01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:24,960 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna just ask everybody for maybe four years 1680 01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:28,439 Speaker 1: to eliminate Rich Cannon because Rich Cannon obviously was incredible 1681 01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:31,120 Speaker 1: quarterback for the Raiders. If you if you eliminate Rich Cannon, 1682 01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:34,080 Speaker 1: I've spent the rest of my life rooting for uh, 1683 01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:38,360 Speaker 1: you know, JaMarcus or todm Morenovich or Marcus Duyastasopo as 1684 01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:41,000 Speaker 1: we've mentioned before. Like like the names of quarterbacks I've 1685 01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:43,160 Speaker 1: rooted for have all been so terrible for the most part, 1686 01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:45,640 Speaker 1: Like uh that all I can do is look at 1687 01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:48,360 Speaker 1: the underdog like that, that's my only hope. I'm I'm 1688 01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,720 Speaker 1: basically sitting here like Princess Leah saying he helped me 1689 01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:52,479 Speaker 1: old me one, You're my only hope. Like that's how 1690 01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:54,960 Speaker 1: I am. I'll find a reason to like Aidan O'Connell 1691 01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:56,200 Speaker 1: because what other choice do I have? 1692 01:22:56,280 --> 01:23:01,080 Speaker 2: Come on now, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it. You've 1693 01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:04,120 Speaker 2: been kind of been through it, You've been scarred by it. 1694 01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:06,880 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, man, Like when I was a kid and 1695 01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:09,280 Speaker 1: the Raiders traded for Jay Schrader, I thought that was 1696 01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:10,960 Speaker 1: going to be the single greatest thing of all time. 1697 01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:14,680 Speaker 1: That shows you how marked like I ammirred in mediocrity 1698 01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,120 Speaker 1: at the quarterback position. Like that's why I had one 1699 01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:20,240 Speaker 1: a former NFL head coach one night that was sitting 1700 01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:22,000 Speaker 1: on the tour bus I was on when I was 1701 01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:23,880 Speaker 1: out on the road. He'd had a couple of drinks 1702 01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:25,280 Speaker 1: and he said to me at the time, and I'll 1703 01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:27,760 Speaker 1: never forget this, he said, if you have a quarterback 1704 01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:30,880 Speaker 1: on your team that you know won't lose you the game, 1705 01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,960 Speaker 1: you will overpay that quarterback because what you don't want 1706 01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:35,880 Speaker 1: to do is keep on rolling the dice and get 1707 01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,240 Speaker 1: somebody that will find a way to get you losses. 1708 01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:40,240 Speaker 1: That's how you lose your job. And I think about 1709 01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:42,799 Speaker 1: that all the time from a quarterback standpoint, Like everybody 1710 01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:45,920 Speaker 1: wants the next Mahomes, But like, let me replace that 1711 01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:49,320 Speaker 1: real quick and say the next maybe greatest of all time. 1712 01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:52,040 Speaker 1: If that's what you're asking for, you're asking for maybe 1713 01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:53,080 Speaker 1: the greatest of all time. 1714 01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:56,439 Speaker 2: Or I think that there is a I'm not asking 1715 01:23:56,479 --> 01:24:01,560 Speaker 2: for Mahomes I'm asking for the next wrong dam Like 1716 01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:05,720 Speaker 2: I've already I can see that Patrick Mahomes is a 1717 01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:09,960 Speaker 2: special talent. But like you know, I mean, you know, 1718 01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:13,880 Speaker 2: I enjoy watching quarterback like I enjoy watching Herbert play 1719 01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:17,160 Speaker 2: the game. Herbert's not Mahomes, But like why I like 1720 01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:20,280 Speaker 2: watching him, you know, I like what you know. Look, 1721 01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:22,760 Speaker 2: I love what Hurts has become. Now Hurts needs to 1722 01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:26,280 Speaker 2: become a better, more accurate when it comes to throw. 1723 01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:29,120 Speaker 2: He is throwing this year. But like what I stole 1724 01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:32,360 Speaker 2: last year, I mean, I didn't expect Jalen to turn 1725 01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:35,719 Speaker 2: into that other than he was such a great, tireless 1726 01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:40,360 Speaker 2: worker and Syrianne's a really really good offensive coach, offensive mind, 1727 01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:46,760 Speaker 2: and know one how bright Hurts is and how much 1728 01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:50,000 Speaker 2: of a worker he is. I mean, that's where people 1729 01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:52,800 Speaker 2: should give him room to improve. And I think you 1730 01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:54,439 Speaker 2: guys are saying that about party will give him a 1731 01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:57,400 Speaker 2: chance to improve his skill set as well. I just 1732 01:24:57,479 --> 01:25:00,880 Speaker 2: look at you know, the arm talent, uh kind of 1733 01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:03,880 Speaker 2: what he brings size wise, and I just think there's 1734 01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,320 Speaker 2: a little bit of a ceiling there. But listen, you 1735 01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,479 Speaker 2: guys are spot on when it comes to you know, 1736 01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:11,920 Speaker 2: what more do you want other than you know, the 1737 01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:12,679 Speaker 2: guy's perfection. 1738 01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:15,720 Speaker 1: The funny thing to me is as you say that, 1739 01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:18,160 Speaker 1: and it just as me thinking about Sirianni and how 1740 01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:21,280 Speaker 1: he plays into this conversation we mentioned earlier Andy Reid 1741 01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:23,600 Speaker 1: with the Chiefs, and how he plays into that conversation. 1742 01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:26,920 Speaker 1: When you think about the day a coach was hired, 1743 01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:29,600 Speaker 1: and everybody does the articles about like who won or 1744 01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,400 Speaker 1: lost are best hiring coaches? And I've looked at those 1745 01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:34,439 Speaker 1: several times. I think it's funny how often three or 1746 01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:36,800 Speaker 1: four years later, the person that was at the top 1747 01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:38,439 Speaker 1: of that list no longer has a job, and the 1748 01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:40,280 Speaker 1: person nobody knew about at the bottom of the list 1749 01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:43,840 Speaker 1: is having success. Like as much as we continually talk 1750 01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:46,480 Speaker 1: about quarterback, I think you got to have the right quarterback. 1751 01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:47,599 Speaker 2: Whisper in the room. 1752 01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:51,360 Speaker 1: And I'm not sure we as a society. I'll go back, 1753 01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:53,880 Speaker 1: like when Andy Reid was hired, there were certainly people 1754 01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:56,200 Speaker 1: wanted to define him by his failures right or wrong 1755 01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:59,680 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. When Sirianni was hired, were people really doing 1756 01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:02,200 Speaker 1: car wheels in the street for that. When Mike McDaniel 1757 01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:05,000 Speaker 1: was hired, there was there was some you know, hope 1758 01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:07,439 Speaker 1: but I don't think people had any idea offensively it 1759 01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:09,840 Speaker 1: would look the way it looks. But when Sean Payton 1760 01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:11,680 Speaker 1: was hired, it was like, Oh, this is going to 1761 01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:14,479 Speaker 1: fix the Broncos. When when John Gruden was hired, Oh, 1762 01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:16,720 Speaker 1: he's going to fix the Raiders. Like you look at 1763 01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:18,960 Speaker 1: some of the ways that we approach coaches, like in 1764 01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:22,479 Speaker 1: modern football, I think you need somebody that can relate 1765 01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:24,880 Speaker 1: to a whole team, that knows how to specifically relate 1766 01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:27,000 Speaker 1: to your quarterback. And if they can do those two things, 1767 01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:28,240 Speaker 1: you get the most out of them. 1768 01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:32,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I listen, I hear you. Yeah, And to 1769 01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:36,519 Speaker 2: answer your question, nobody really knew Sirianny and what he 1770 01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:39,040 Speaker 2: was right, Like, you're right about that. Like a lot 1771 01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:43,040 Speaker 2: of these guys that come, you know, as coordinators and 1772 01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:45,120 Speaker 2: assistants from the team, like you don't really know their 1773 01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:48,320 Speaker 2: body of work, especially the you like Sirianni was that young. 1774 01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:51,720 Speaker 2: I remember talking to Howie Roseman about him. He's like, dude, 1775 01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:54,960 Speaker 2: I can't tell you, just really bright. He's got a 1776 01:26:55,120 --> 01:27:00,240 Speaker 2: really grasp of the game, and he's very relatable. And 1777 01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:05,840 Speaker 2: that's kind of the biggest thing with with Sirianne and 1778 01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:07,760 Speaker 2: what kind of what he did and look at him like, 1779 01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:11,000 Speaker 2: you know, it's funny, like we talk about like a 1780 01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:14,640 Speaker 2: team like the Eagles, and look at where he is, 1781 01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:18,000 Speaker 2: Like he comes into the league and second year he's 1782 01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:22,800 Speaker 2: in the super Bowl. I mean, that's that's that's pretty impressive. No, 1783 01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:25,559 Speaker 2: you walk into the league and two years later you're 1784 01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:26,240 Speaker 2: in the super Bowl. 1785 01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:28,800 Speaker 1: Well, and that comes back to the other part of 1786 01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:31,479 Speaker 1: this that you know, when you think about the coaching standpoint, 1787 01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:33,720 Speaker 1: I think you know quicker than ever if you've got 1788 01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:35,519 Speaker 1: your guy. And that's why if I'm a Broncos fan 1789 01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:38,320 Speaker 1: right now, I'm I'm concerned people feel like I'm piloting 1790 01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:40,760 Speaker 1: under Sean Payton. I'm just saying that didn't take long 1791 01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:42,880 Speaker 1: to figure out that Sirianni had something, right, Like, it 1792 01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:45,240 Speaker 1: didn't take long to figure out again, I'll use Mike 1793 01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:48,760 Speaker 1: McDaniel that Mike McDaniel had something. It doesn't take long 1794 01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:50,800 Speaker 1: to look around and say, hey, I mean, look at 1795 01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:53,320 Speaker 1: the way we all reacted to Doug Peterson last year. Now, 1796 01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:55,640 Speaker 1: you know, Brian Dabole might turn out to have been 1797 01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:58,519 Speaker 1: a one year wonder. We don't know, But I'm trying 1798 01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:01,000 Speaker 1: to think of the last New coach that started off 1799 01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:04,439 Speaker 1: really slow and everything was just like new to his team. 1800 01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:08,040 Speaker 1: Everything was in just an abject disaster, and then turned 1801 01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:10,240 Speaker 1: it around. Off the top of my head, I don't know. Somebody, 1802 01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:12,439 Speaker 1: I'm sure on Twitter will tell me the four hundred 1803 01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:13,760 Speaker 1: examples I'm not thinking of. 1804 01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:16,439 Speaker 3: Well, I know Kyle Shanahan won six games and then 1805 01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:19,400 Speaker 3: four games his first two years in San Francisco, so 1806 01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:20,080 Speaker 3: that might apply. 1807 01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:22,280 Speaker 1: And they knew and they knew that was bad from 1808 01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:25,280 Speaker 1: the get coacers. Remember the rebid He and Lynch got 1809 01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:27,880 Speaker 1: six year deals and at the time everybody said, how 1810 01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:30,040 Speaker 1: could you give John Lynch a six year deal when 1811 01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:32,040 Speaker 1: he's never done this before? And it's like, well, I 1812 01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:34,320 Speaker 1: think they knew something there, So you're right. That was 1813 01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:36,519 Speaker 1: definitely a rebuild that took him innute. So that's a 1814 01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:37,080 Speaker 1: good example. 1815 01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:41,800 Speaker 2: That's like, give me a guy that looks like a 1816 01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:47,000 Speaker 2: bubbling fool like Brandon Staley. I turned it around. 1817 01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:49,400 Speaker 1: I can't think of it. 1818 01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:51,920 Speaker 3: I can think of one like that. I kind of 1819 01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:54,120 Speaker 3: took his lumps. Maybe I had to learn on the 1820 01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:56,720 Speaker 3: job a little bit and eventually turned into something that's 1821 01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:57,760 Speaker 3: that's a tougher one. 1822 01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:01,839 Speaker 1: Right, God, this is this is just such an interesting 1823 01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:04,600 Speaker 1: you know, I'll have to I'll spend some time this 1824 01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:07,639 Speaker 1: week trying to deep dive into coaching hires and try 1825 01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:11,120 Speaker 1: and find it, because there is something here to the 1826 01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:14,200 Speaker 1: fact that you know. Frankly, in today's society, I think 1827 01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:16,720 Speaker 1: you know sooner than ever if you really have the 1828 01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:18,800 Speaker 1: guy as a coach. I think we need to give 1829 01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:21,639 Speaker 1: quarterbacks more time. But a coach can win or lose 1830 01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:24,800 Speaker 1: a locker room so quickly. You all know that too, 1831 01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:27,280 Speaker 1: Like it's just it takes so little to lose the 1832 01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:30,439 Speaker 1: locker room, and so you have to be so in 1833 01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:32,880 Speaker 1: tune from day one to win it. I just don't know, 1834 01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:35,400 Speaker 1: for example, if you're Sean Payton and you've put this 1835 01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:37,120 Speaker 1: product out on the field and you've talked to what 1836 01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:39,559 Speaker 1: you've talked, and you've also you know, said the things 1837 01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:41,800 Speaker 1: you've said about your players along the way, like now 1838 01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:44,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to go into full complete rebuild mode. 1839 01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:46,000 Speaker 1: And I just don't know how often that works for 1840 01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:46,840 Speaker 1: somebody like him. 1841 01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:51,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I you know, isn't it weird that a coach 1842 01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:57,080 Speaker 2: can be in a certain situation Belichick obviously with Brady, 1843 01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:01,479 Speaker 2: you see it all like all you know like even 1844 01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:03,519 Speaker 2: a guy like Jimmy Johnson as great as a coach 1845 01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:08,080 Speaker 2: as he was. When you leave certain teams, you know, 1846 01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:14,120 Speaker 2: it's so hard to replicate success, and so for Peyton, 1847 01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:18,960 Speaker 2: it's so hard for him to replicate. That's like, listen, 1848 01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:24,000 Speaker 2: I thought Brian Dable was a really like an incredible 1849 01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:29,200 Speaker 2: mind in Buffalo. He goes to the Giants and that 1850 01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:35,479 Speaker 2: quite frankly, I'm stunned by how inept that he feels 1851 01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:38,800 Speaker 2: to me as a coach. I you know, listen, he's 1852 01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:39,519 Speaker 2: gotten bit by some. 1853 01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:41,519 Speaker 3: Injuries and all but some injuries. I mean, he has 1854 01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:44,400 Speaker 3: no offensive line super talented anyway. 1855 01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:46,840 Speaker 2: Without a doubt, you know, I guess I'm talking about 1856 01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:53,160 Speaker 2: more his talent evaluating, which is really affected, you know, 1857 01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:56,160 Speaker 2: his ability to X and O. But he doesn't feel, 1858 01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:00,200 Speaker 2: you know, you need players. That goes back to all 1859 01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:02,840 Speaker 2: at which is true. Well, look, I mean the players 1860 01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:03,280 Speaker 2: you got. 1861 01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:05,000 Speaker 3: Sure and maybe there's something to be said. And we 1862 01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:07,479 Speaker 3: know the schedule was relatively weak last year. Did he 1863 01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:10,400 Speaker 3: maximize what he had which wasn't much last year either? 1864 01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:12,519 Speaker 3: That does mean last year was a you know that 1865 01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:14,639 Speaker 3: last year was still a very good coaching job for him. 1866 01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:17,600 Speaker 3: The team just wasn't very good. Yeah, it's caught up 1867 01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:17,920 Speaker 3: to him. 1868 01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:20,320 Speaker 1: That's part of the problem though for the Giants this 1869 01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:24,920 Speaker 1: year is that when you over when you over exceed 1870 01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:28,160 Speaker 1: every expectation coming in one year, then the thought is 1871 01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:29,840 Speaker 1: that's where he's going to pick up next year, right like, 1872 01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:33,080 Speaker 1: And so we're viewing the Giants through a much different 1873 01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:36,559 Speaker 1: prism because of last year. I think that's probably last 1874 01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:38,240 Speaker 1: year they weren't as good as their record. This year 1875 01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:40,080 Speaker 1: they're probably not as bad as their record. But what's 1876 01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:42,640 Speaker 1: that mean about Dable? I don't know. If I'm a 1877 01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:45,679 Speaker 1: Giants fan, you know, coming into the season, I felt 1878 01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:48,720 Speaker 1: great knowing that, hey, I've got a quarterback that is 1879 01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:50,840 Speaker 1: okay and a coach that can get the most out 1880 01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:52,800 Speaker 1: of them, and Saquan's coming back, and they had all 1881 01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:54,880 Speaker 1: these reasons to have hope that you could run it back. 1882 01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:56,720 Speaker 1: If you're a Giants fan, I don't know where you're 1883 01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:59,080 Speaker 1: finding your hope now because the team looks lost and 1884 01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:00,640 Speaker 1: then you look at the coach and you're saying, well, 1885 01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:02,960 Speaker 1: do we have the guy like that? That just wasn't 1886 01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:04,240 Speaker 1: even a question three months ago. 1887 01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:07,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, And see, the mistake was believing that Daniel Jones 1888 01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:09,920 Speaker 3: was better than he actually is. And the fact that 1889 01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:12,040 Speaker 3: you signed me to an extension that you didn't have to, 1890 01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:14,559 Speaker 3: because I wonder if they would have allowed Daniel Jones 1891 01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:16,160 Speaker 3: to become a free agent, what kind of market he 1892 01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:18,800 Speaker 3: actually would have had. Even with the successful season the 1893 01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:21,360 Speaker 3: team had. Nobody that watched that Giants team last year 1894 01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:24,120 Speaker 3: thought that Daniel Jones was anything special, right, I like 1895 01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:27,280 Speaker 3: improved marketly. If anything, they used his legs more Brian 1896 01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:29,639 Speaker 3: Dabold use them the correct way to maximize what he had. 1897 01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:32,320 Speaker 3: But no one sees him as a franchise quarterback. At best, 1898 01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:34,280 Speaker 3: He's a backup. And we all knew that. 1899 01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:36,920 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree well like you. 1900 01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:39,040 Speaker 2: You and I talked to Ut Lead in the season 1901 01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:41,479 Speaker 2: fifty figured I would say, like, what do you like? 1902 01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:44,639 Speaker 2: What am I missing? When people would talk about the Giants. 1903 01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:48,120 Speaker 2: I never even understood it because of Daniel Jones. 1904 01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:49,880 Speaker 3: And there's talk and I don't know if this is 1905 01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:53,040 Speaker 3: confirmed or not that it was ownership that wanted Daniel 1906 01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:54,960 Speaker 3: Jones to be locked in, not Brian day Ball. 1907 01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:57,160 Speaker 2: And if that's the case, that it would make more 1908 01:32:57,240 --> 01:32:59,800 Speaker 2: sense to me then because I thought Dabel was a 1909 01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:01,920 Speaker 2: like a great I thought he was going to be 1910 01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:03,840 Speaker 2: a great coach. I think he still could be. 1911 01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:06,040 Speaker 3: He's still a very small sample size. 1912 01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:10,160 Speaker 1: He's going to get that chance too, because if everything 1913 01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:12,439 Speaker 1: goes to if everything continues to go to help for 1914 01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:14,840 Speaker 1: this season, I don't think ownership is going to turn 1915 01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:16,840 Speaker 1: around and blame Dable. They're going to turn around and say, well, 1916 01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:18,760 Speaker 1: you know, that's that's why we did the deal we 1917 01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:19,560 Speaker 1: did with Daniel J. 1918 01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:20,000 Speaker 2: Greed. 1919 01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:21,320 Speaker 1: I would start over. 1920 01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:24,280 Speaker 2: You're right, I was just making I bring up Dable 1921 01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:27,040 Speaker 2: just as a probably a poor example, but more of 1922 01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:30,760 Speaker 2: an example of how circumstances can change around you. Like 1923 01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:36,120 Speaker 2: the Belichick thing. I guess you can argue, is he done? Right? 1924 01:33:36,240 --> 01:33:39,600 Speaker 2: I guess that's what people are talking about, Like is Belichick? 1925 01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:43,960 Speaker 2: Everybody knows that he's a brilliant mind. But is he done? 1926 01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:47,360 Speaker 2: Is the is the question? I guess, you know, but 1927 01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:51,200 Speaker 2: when we look at guys like Sean Payton, you know, 1928 01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:54,440 Speaker 2: it's just hard to replicate success. 1929 01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:58,920 Speaker 3: Well, you know, the Payton situation. I think the problem is, 1930 01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:01,600 Speaker 3: you know, he put this spotlight squarely on himself with 1931 01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:04,840 Speaker 3: that USA Say Today article, the Jared Bell because right now, 1932 01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:06,639 Speaker 3: if he hadn't done that we can say, well, clearly 1933 01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:08,920 Speaker 3: this roster was flawed to begin with. They weren't as 1934 01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:10,920 Speaker 3: good as we thought they were. And this is now 1935 01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:14,040 Speaker 3: going to be a rebuilt situation, and by Sean some time, 1936 01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:15,760 Speaker 3: because we know that he can build a roster like 1937 01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:17,200 Speaker 3: he did in New Orleans when they were coming out 1938 01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:19,439 Speaker 3: of Katrina and turned him into, you know, one of 1939 01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:21,640 Speaker 3: the best teams of the NFC for a decade. The 1940 01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:24,040 Speaker 3: problem is he had to spout off out the mouth 1941 01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:26,360 Speaker 3: and talk about all the issues from last season and 1942 01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:28,080 Speaker 3: had everything to do with the coaching staff and not 1943 01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:30,720 Speaker 3: the talent on the roster, and it looks just as bad, 1944 01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:33,879 Speaker 3: if not even worse. And you have a terrible contract 1945 01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:36,880 Speaker 3: that you can't get out of, you know, with Russell Wilson, 1946 01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:39,800 Speaker 3: and you can trade away a couple of ancillary guys 1947 01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:41,920 Speaker 3: on defense all you want. This is not necessarily going 1948 01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:44,000 Speaker 3: to be a quick fix, but you told us it 1949 01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:45,680 Speaker 3: was going to be a quick fix. So now you 1950 01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:48,479 Speaker 3: end up looking worse. He put himself in this situation, 1951 01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:50,040 Speaker 3: so I really don't have sympathy for him. 1952 01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:53,200 Speaker 2: I know sympathy. I'll be honest here. I find him 1953 01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:59,040 Speaker 2: like detestable, to be honest with like, no, he's not 1954 01:34:59,160 --> 01:34:59,920 Speaker 2: a likable guy. 1955 01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:03,280 Speaker 3: Well, there's an unspoken rule, like you broke the coaches fraternity, 1956 01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:05,360 Speaker 3: you don't say something like that, even if you think it, 1957 01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:06,519 Speaker 3: you don't say that. 1958 01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:09,160 Speaker 1: I also think that we have to remember and that's 1959 01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:12,200 Speaker 1: always the analogy I use, But like remember that, you know, 1960 01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:15,960 Speaker 1: great tag teams have great success because they're great tag 1961 01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:18,479 Speaker 1: teams in pro wrestling, especially in the eighties, right, Like 1962 01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:21,679 Speaker 1: the Megapowers was about having you know, I needed Macho 1963 01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:24,559 Speaker 1: Man and Hall Coogan. And what's happened for that Saints 1964 01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:27,840 Speaker 1: team is that we continually look back at Sean Payton 1965 01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:30,360 Speaker 1: at the time as Hall Cogan, which is fine, but 1966 01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:33,559 Speaker 1: the Mega Powers needed Macho Man too, Like winning without 1967 01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:36,640 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame quarterback is not as easy as 1968 01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:39,080 Speaker 1: people seem to want to make it be, Like there 1969 01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:41,840 Speaker 1: is this level of Belichick is showing us that right now, 1970 01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:45,760 Speaker 1: maybe Sean Payton is too, Like I'm not I don't 1971 01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:48,280 Speaker 1: want to oversimplify this, but you want in New Orleans 1972 01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:49,800 Speaker 1: with the Hall of Fame quarterback. You do not have 1973 01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:51,800 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame quarterback right now, or at least 1974 01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:54,240 Speaker 1: if he is to some voters out there, he's not 1975 01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:56,919 Speaker 1: playing at that level anymore, you don't have a quarterback. 1976 01:35:57,000 --> 01:35:59,920 Speaker 1: And at this point what we've seen is no matter 1977 01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:02,240 Speaker 1: how great the coach is, if you don't have a quarterback, 1978 01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:04,400 Speaker 1: you are not going to be in that same conversation, 1979 01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:07,600 Speaker 1: especially in the modern NFL, where the right now the 1980 01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:10,519 Speaker 1: standard is a great coach in Andy Reid with a 1981 01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:13,160 Speaker 1: great quarterback and Patrick Mahomes, like that is the standard. 1982 01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:16,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna be brilliant. No, you're You're the brilliance 1983 01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:19,360 Speaker 2: of Reid. Like what you could make an argument in 1984 01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:23,880 Speaker 2: Andy is is the best coach in the league with 1985 01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:27,280 Speaker 2: Belichick and over the last twenty years, despite all the 1986 01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:32,559 Speaker 2: Super Bowls, Belichick that he was able to have ridiculous success. Now, 1987 01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:35,360 Speaker 2: I didn't win a Philadelpia, but had went to goes 1988 01:36:35,439 --> 01:36:40,519 Speaker 2: to four championship games Super Bowls, right, and then goes 1989 01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:46,679 Speaker 2: to Kansas City and creates a dynasty in Kansas City. 1990 01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:50,440 Speaker 2: Like that's that's almost unparalleled. 1991 01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:54,960 Speaker 1: And if you're Sean Payton, now you have to realize 1992 01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:57,560 Speaker 1: and this is this is the other difference. You're not 1993 01:36:57,720 --> 01:37:00,439 Speaker 1: only in the same league, You're not only in the 1994 01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:04,479 Speaker 1: same conference, you're in the same division. Is that every 1995 01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:07,840 Speaker 1: single year Sean Payton and his quarterback are going to 1996 01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:11,360 Speaker 1: have to be better than Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes 1997 01:37:11,640 --> 01:37:13,679 Speaker 1: to get the level of credit that Sean Payton wants 1998 01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:15,559 Speaker 1: at this point and the Broncos fans want him to get. 1999 01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:18,599 Speaker 1: Like that is a that you're telling me that you're 2000 01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:21,400 Speaker 1: gonna have to climb Mount Everst and then a week 2001 01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:23,000 Speaker 1: later be like, hey, you know we haven't done in 2002 01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:26,200 Speaker 1: a week climb Mount Everest like that. It is such 2003 01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:28,600 Speaker 1: an impossible task right now in that division, it is 2004 01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:31,160 Speaker 1: no different than being in the AFC East, in the 2005 01:37:31,200 --> 01:37:34,280 Speaker 1: middle of Belichick and Brady, And that's what you're living 2006 01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:36,200 Speaker 1: if you're in the division Sean Payton's in, and I 2007 01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:37,960 Speaker 1: think by the end of it, that's part of what 2008 01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:39,439 Speaker 1: tarnishes this entire chapter. 2009 01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:43,920 Speaker 2: For Yeah, Yeah, it's wild. All right, let's say quick 2010 01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:47,439 Speaker 2: time out, we'll come back. We'll do a little real 2011 01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:50,720 Speaker 2: for Gayzy. We're gonna go round, We're gonna do we'll 2012 01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:52,640 Speaker 2: go beyond just the NFL. 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Fitzie, Let's start off with usc Notre Dame 2032 01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:21,320 Speaker 2: is the second best rivalry outside of Ohio State Michigan. 2033 01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:23,320 Speaker 2: Is that real or fugazy? That statement? 2034 01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:26,439 Speaker 1: No, God, No, that's for gazy. That's all sorts of fugazy. 2035 01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:29,600 Speaker 1: I mean right now, is there a better like? I 2036 01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:34,240 Speaker 1: have a hard time looking past what Alabama Georgia has become. 2037 01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:37,400 Speaker 1: Like I feel like that that hits differently. But think 2038 01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:40,080 Speaker 1: about this, if this game matters so much because of 2039 01:39:40,160 --> 01:39:42,479 Speaker 1: where it is in the calendar also right now, if 2040 01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:44,840 Speaker 1: it was on Rivalry week in a few weeks, in 2041 01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:47,160 Speaker 1: about a month, would we be sitting here talking about 2042 01:39:47,160 --> 01:39:48,639 Speaker 1: it the same way? I don't know, Like I put 2043 01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:51,200 Speaker 1: it on par with even like Texas Oklahoma, Like I 2044 01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:53,600 Speaker 1: think it's one of the better rivalries, but second best now. 2045 01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:57,960 Speaker 2: So I'm talking to you know, and again the historical relevance, no, I. 2046 01:39:58,040 --> 01:40:01,479 Speaker 1: Mean historical relevance of it is important, But I mean 2047 01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:04,000 Speaker 1: is the world going to stop today to watch that 2048 01:40:04,520 --> 01:40:07,320 Speaker 1: if you are the second biggest rivalry Because I'll argue 2049 01:40:07,439 --> 01:40:10,400 Speaker 1: even if Ohio State and Michigan are trash, even if 2050 01:40:10,439 --> 01:40:13,400 Speaker 1: they both only won one game going into that game, Man, 2051 01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:15,080 Speaker 1: that's the game of the weekend. Doesn't matter who else 2052 01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:16,960 Speaker 1: is playing that weekend, right Like, that's the game of 2053 01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:19,720 Speaker 1: the weekend. This right now is only the second best 2054 01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:22,360 Speaker 1: game of today. Washington Oregon is a better game. We're 2055 01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:25,800 Speaker 1: more hyped for it. So it's it's for geatezy, it's 2056 01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:26,640 Speaker 1: free gazy. 2057 01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:31,479 Speaker 3: FIGI I say for real, and I'm probably biased growing 2058 01:40:31,560 --> 01:40:34,120 Speaker 3: up in southern California and knowing the importance of the 2059 01:40:34,479 --> 01:40:37,200 Speaker 3: tradition between Yeah, well, you know what, and I will 2060 01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:39,960 Speaker 3: say historically fits. I mean, it's one of the longest 2061 01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:43,800 Speaker 3: standy rivalries. It's not necessarily by coastal, but Midwest all 2062 01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:46,799 Speaker 3: the way to the west coast. Back when this rivalry started, 2063 01:40:46,920 --> 01:40:49,320 Speaker 3: that wasn't really a thing. Teams didn't really travel to 2064 01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:51,040 Speaker 3: play each other the way the se and Notre Dame. 2065 01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:53,920 Speaker 3: And it's been a consistent rivalry these two teams for 2066 01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:56,240 Speaker 3: a long stretch of time. They both have hit some 2067 01:40:56,360 --> 01:40:59,120 Speaker 3: rough patches here and there, were both consistently great. It 2068 01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:03,200 Speaker 3: used to have championship expectations every single year, implications every 2069 01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:05,479 Speaker 3: single year. So I absolutely believe it's up there in 2070 01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:07,799 Speaker 3: the top three or four rivalries in all of college sports. 2071 01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:10,240 Speaker 1: No, no, it wasn't top three or four, he said 2072 01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:14,000 Speaker 1: number two. Also, Army Navy, the Iron Pole. These are 2073 01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:19,760 Speaker 1: all pet of rivalries. I mean, fat really yeah, oh yeah, yeah, wow. 2074 01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:22,880 Speaker 3: Army Navy did really have significance to you know, over 2075 01:41:22,920 --> 01:41:25,840 Speaker 3: the last i'd say fifty years when football first started. Sure, 2076 01:41:26,640 --> 01:41:29,120 Speaker 3: but from a long standing standpoint I. 2077 01:41:29,120 --> 01:41:33,200 Speaker 2: Mean USC Notre d really like it's still high state Michigan. 2078 01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:36,000 Speaker 3: I go, right, sure, I'll give you a high state Michigan, 2079 01:41:36,400 --> 01:41:39,600 Speaker 3: but yeah, anything else. I think there's a conversation to 2080 01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:41,439 Speaker 3: be had about the Iron Bowl or anybody or any 2081 01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:44,040 Speaker 3: other rivalry, and I would take old Notre Dame USC 2082 01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:45,519 Speaker 3: historically above. 2083 01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:47,840 Speaker 2: The Yeah, I mean how relevant the Iron Bowl now? Right? 2084 01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:51,439 Speaker 1: I mean it's still it's still crushes in the in 2085 01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:54,559 Speaker 1: the concept of college football, like in the lexicon, right, 2086 01:41:54,640 --> 01:41:57,160 Speaker 1: like still crushers in the ratings, So people still pay 2087 01:41:57,160 --> 01:41:59,880 Speaker 1: attention to it like great rivalries doesn't matter if teams 2088 01:42:00,280 --> 01:42:00,680 Speaker 1: I love the. 2089 01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:02,280 Speaker 2: Iron Ball, they'll get me wrong. But I don't know, 2090 01:42:02,479 --> 01:42:05,439 Speaker 2: you know, I mean now, I mean it's. 2091 01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:08,000 Speaker 3: Not like down the door to see Auburn in Alabama 2092 01:42:08,160 --> 01:42:08,639 Speaker 3: last year. 2093 01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:11,840 Speaker 1: Right, So I did a quick Google search here and 2094 01:42:11,880 --> 01:42:14,880 Speaker 1: I typed in the best College Football Rivalries AFLON, which 2095 01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:17,400 Speaker 1: I think does great work cover in college football. Number one. 2096 01:42:17,479 --> 01:42:20,120 Speaker 1: This is article from last year. Number one Army Navy, 2097 01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:24,479 Speaker 1: number two, Alabama, Auburn number three on their list Michigan, 2098 01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:26,639 Speaker 1: Ohio State. I think that's I can find your list 2099 01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:29,320 Speaker 1: for number four. I got in Texas. 2100 01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:34,360 Speaker 2: To pay mushroom pizza over Pepperodi pizza. 2101 01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:36,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, but Aflon does good war covering. 2102 01:42:36,040 --> 01:42:39,960 Speaker 2: God, I could care just take that out of the 2103 01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:42,400 Speaker 2: arg that's the first Google search out to. 2104 01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:46,040 Speaker 1: When you guys, that's the first thing. 2105 01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:47,840 Speaker 3: That pops up on Google, then it must be true 2106 01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:49,280 Speaker 3: and it must be accurate. So you know what you 2107 01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:49,920 Speaker 3: got me? Fitted? 2108 01:42:49,960 --> 01:42:52,519 Speaker 1: Oh man? Okay, pop, so yours on Google? That's that 2109 01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:54,600 Speaker 1: does it to me? And I'm supposed to sit and 2110 01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:57,320 Speaker 1: be like, well, this game was really important in the seventies, 2111 01:42:57,400 --> 01:42:58,120 Speaker 1: so now I care. 2112 01:42:58,200 --> 01:43:00,439 Speaker 3: But it was important the twenties and thirties, forties and 2113 01:43:00,479 --> 01:43:02,559 Speaker 3: sixties and seventies, absolutely. 2114 01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:05,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, And today I don't care point all of those 2115 01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:06,880 Speaker 1: and like, what. 2116 01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:11,479 Speaker 2: Game is bigger today? Alabama Auburn or USC Notre Dame. 2117 01:43:12,840 --> 01:43:17,360 Speaker 1: I think more casuals will watch Alabama Armor. Yeah, you 2118 01:43:17,400 --> 01:43:19,120 Speaker 1: know what, let's say, why don't we go ahead and 2119 01:43:19,160 --> 01:43:20,960 Speaker 1: track this then shake keep keep a record of this. 2120 01:43:21,240 --> 01:43:23,679 Speaker 1: Let's see, let's pull the ratings for this game tonight 2121 01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:26,519 Speaker 1: between USC and Notre Dame, and then we'll pull the 2122 01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:28,320 Speaker 1: ratings for the Iron Bowl and we'll see which one 2123 01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:35,120 Speaker 1: does better. Uh huh, okay, God, you know what, I'll 2124 01:43:35,160 --> 01:43:36,960 Speaker 1: bet I'll bet the show. I'll bet the show a 2125 01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:39,120 Speaker 1: little cup of coffee on this one. Like you know 2126 01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:42,559 Speaker 1: what I'll send I'll send a Starbucks to to everybody 2127 01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:44,120 Speaker 1: involved in this. If I'm wrong, let's go. 2128 01:43:44,280 --> 01:43:46,120 Speaker 3: It's be one of the boogie coffees that you like 2129 01:43:46,160 --> 01:43:47,880 Speaker 3: fits though, yeah, like. 2130 01:43:48,160 --> 01:43:50,719 Speaker 1: You know, like okay, like a ten dollars Starbucks card. 2131 01:43:52,680 --> 01:44:00,760 Speaker 2: One? All right? Real or for gazy? The Cowboys just 2132 01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:04,680 Speaker 2: can't win a big game? Oh that? 2133 01:44:05,080 --> 01:44:05,200 Speaker 6: Oh? 2134 01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:05,439 Speaker 2: Man? 2135 01:44:05,520 --> 01:44:06,400 Speaker 1: Does that feel real? 2136 01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:07,080 Speaker 2: God? 2137 01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:08,000 Speaker 1: That does feel real? 2138 01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:08,439 Speaker 2: Doesn't it? 2139 01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:10,800 Speaker 1: Like I want to say fugazy, but I don't know 2140 01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:15,240 Speaker 1: if I can. Like, Man, i'm gonna say I'm gonna 2141 01:44:15,240 --> 01:44:17,400 Speaker 1: say real on that. I'm gonna say real on that. 2142 01:44:17,840 --> 01:44:20,080 Speaker 1: And it's just I don't. I don't. I'm not a 2143 01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:22,439 Speaker 1: big buyer of the past, Like, well, they haven't done 2144 01:44:22,479 --> 01:44:23,760 Speaker 1: this the next amount of years. I don't think that 2145 01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:25,720 Speaker 1: impacts this year's team that much. You know that, But 2146 01:44:26,439 --> 01:44:28,200 Speaker 1: that doesn't change the fact that we just saw them 2147 01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:29,880 Speaker 1: get the snop beat out of them by the forty 2148 01:44:29,960 --> 01:44:32,560 Speaker 1: nine ers. And I feel like the Cowboys are not 2149 01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:34,360 Speaker 1: as good as people want them to be. When they're 2150 01:44:34,360 --> 01:44:36,040 Speaker 1: good and not as bad as people want them to be. 2151 01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:38,360 Speaker 1: When they're bad, they're just sort of middling. And when 2152 01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:40,920 Speaker 1: you're in the middle, you're gonna need your quarterback or 2153 01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:42,760 Speaker 1: your coach to have a great day to win some 2154 01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:44,760 Speaker 1: of those games. And I don't know that I trust 2155 01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:46,800 Speaker 1: either right now, so I'll say it's real that they 2156 01:44:46,920 --> 01:44:47,760 Speaker 1: just can't win that game. 2157 01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:51,600 Speaker 3: It's one thousand, Yes, fougazy, the Cowboys. 2158 01:44:51,120 --> 01:44:53,519 Speaker 1: Are they look oh the Cowboys are for Gaza. 2159 01:44:53,640 --> 01:44:57,000 Speaker 3: Yes they are. As a team, they're not a true contender. 2160 01:44:57,240 --> 01:44:59,439 Speaker 3: And the problem is, to your point, fits people try 2161 01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:01,720 Speaker 3: to prop them up when they have a solid team, 2162 01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:03,280 Speaker 3: which was which is what they are. But when you 2163 01:45:03,320 --> 01:45:06,680 Speaker 3: play a real team like San Francisco or Philadelphia coming up, 2164 01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:10,479 Speaker 3: they're overmatched. They don't have it up front on either side. Yes, 2165 01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:13,280 Speaker 3: I love Michaeh Parsons. He's maybe already the best defensive 2166 01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:15,640 Speaker 3: player in the league. He's phenomenal, he's excellent. But you 2167 01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:17,839 Speaker 3: need a little bit more than that, and more more importantly, 2168 01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:19,880 Speaker 3: you need more from the head coaching position, which to 2169 01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:23,360 Speaker 3: your point, flawed, and the quarterback position, which he's average 2170 01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:26,960 Speaker 3: and flawed. Head coach in an average quarterback is not 2171 01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:28,720 Speaker 3: good enough to compete for championships. 2172 01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:32,120 Speaker 1: So no, Wow, this is awesome. 2173 01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:36,439 Speaker 2: I love real for Gayzy. Alright, well really for Gayzy, 2174 01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:48,240 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift, Travis Kelcey the biggest celebrity sports like Union ever, 2175 01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:51,800 Speaker 2: who ever. Ever. 2176 01:45:52,840 --> 01:45:56,519 Speaker 1: Okay, So, as I've said in this man, people don't 2177 01:45:56,640 --> 01:45:58,640 Speaker 1: like this take and it's not my favorite music all 2178 01:45:58,680 --> 01:46:01,080 Speaker 1: the time. Nothing against fifties, but I think the Taylor 2179 01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:04,280 Speaker 1: Swift is this generation is Michael Jackson. So now I 2180 01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:07,400 Speaker 1: have to take into account how much popularity Travis Kelcey 2181 01:46:07,439 --> 01:46:09,840 Speaker 1: brings to it. He brings in a ton of X 2182 01:46:10,080 --> 01:46:12,599 Speaker 1: like like just random people watch him. 2183 01:46:12,760 --> 01:46:17,479 Speaker 2: He's got to be a Rod Madonna, right, it was one, Yeah, I. 2184 01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:19,720 Speaker 1: Gotta go fugate. There's got to be bigger. I mean, 2185 01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:22,280 Speaker 1: I gotta go fugazy. It just feels like there has 2186 01:46:22,360 --> 01:46:25,120 Speaker 1: to be a Rod Madonna. Is a really good poll 2187 01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:27,320 Speaker 1: by you, because Madonna at that time. 2188 01:46:27,439 --> 01:46:29,880 Speaker 2: Was you know, she was on the she was on 2189 01:46:29,960 --> 01:46:30,599 Speaker 2: the back nine. 2190 01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:32,599 Speaker 1: Now definitely still she's still Madonna. 2191 01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:32,880 Speaker 2: You know. 2192 01:46:33,000 --> 01:46:36,439 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna say fugazy, but I'm not comfortable 2193 01:46:36,479 --> 01:46:37,679 Speaker 1: with it. Figgy, what do you think of my mind? 2194 01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:38,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. 2195 01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:40,799 Speaker 3: I feel like there's something bigger, but I it doesn't 2196 01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:43,000 Speaker 3: immediately come to mind because there's been plenty of these 2197 01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:46,360 Speaker 3: over the years. Uh, it's the biggest thing right now obviously, 2198 01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:49,000 Speaker 3: And she's obviously the I don't disagree with you, by 2199 01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:51,320 Speaker 3: the way, with the Michael Jackson ever generation, and she's 2200 01:46:51,400 --> 01:46:54,160 Speaker 3: in the social media generation, which makes everything she does 2201 01:46:54,240 --> 01:46:57,599 Speaker 3: even more exaggerated. So I think that helps her from 2202 01:46:57,680 --> 01:47:01,120 Speaker 3: that standpoint. So I'll call for as well. But it's 2203 01:47:01,160 --> 01:47:03,400 Speaker 3: a weak forgazy because I can't give you a concrete 2204 01:47:03,439 --> 01:47:06,160 Speaker 3: example right now. But I think there is a better one. 2205 01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:07,960 Speaker 7: It's Rita Williams and Drake. 2206 01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:12,000 Speaker 2: Was that officially a thing? 2207 01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:14,400 Speaker 3: Were they were together for a little Were they okay? 2208 01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:17,720 Speaker 3: I thought it was rumored I was and stuff? They 2209 01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:20,400 Speaker 3: did they go on a date or did they actually date? 2210 01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:22,960 Speaker 7: They went on a couple of dates, but I mean 2211 01:47:23,080 --> 01:47:25,920 Speaker 7: Travis Kelcey and they've been on a couple of dates too. 2212 01:47:26,040 --> 01:47:26,760 Speaker 2: I can't really see. 2213 01:47:26,920 --> 01:47:29,280 Speaker 8: I mean, they have video. The moms are hanging out 2214 01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:35,400 Speaker 8: like we missing trees for the forest here. They're like, 2215 01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:38,280 Speaker 8: here's the real question. Do we think that this relationship 2216 01:47:38,400 --> 01:47:42,120 Speaker 8: is real or fogazy? There's that because like I don't know. 2217 01:47:42,360 --> 01:47:46,240 Speaker 2: It he's azy type of guy. I think he's legit. 2218 01:47:46,720 --> 01:47:48,880 Speaker 1: But we've seen so many new commercials for like, I 2219 01:47:48,920 --> 01:47:51,719 Speaker 1: don't think there's anything in this for Taylor. I'm looking 2220 01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:52,920 Speaker 1: around and I'm like, man, why. 2221 01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:54,200 Speaker 2: You think he's a social climber. 2222 01:47:54,800 --> 01:47:57,559 Speaker 1: I think that I don't think there are There's two 2223 01:47:57,600 --> 01:47:59,280 Speaker 1: ways I could see this going. I could see where 2224 01:47:59,320 --> 01:48:01,080 Speaker 1: they went to Taylor and said you want to do 2225 01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:03,160 Speaker 1: halftime and she said no, and they're like, well, let's 2226 01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:04,760 Speaker 1: come up with something else, Cleipp that we can do 2227 01:48:04,840 --> 01:48:06,800 Speaker 1: that integrates the two of us together, and they picked this. 2228 01:48:06,920 --> 01:48:09,840 Speaker 1: I could see that as one or two. Either Kelsey's 2229 01:48:09,920 --> 01:48:13,400 Speaker 1: friends with somebody in her camp or her and she's like, hey, 2230 01:48:13,479 --> 01:48:15,400 Speaker 1: let's blow this up. This would be really funny, and 2231 01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:17,439 Speaker 1: then they turn it into this thing. Because it can't 2232 01:48:17,439 --> 01:48:21,360 Speaker 1: be coincidence they were seeing new commercials every single week, 2233 01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:23,960 Speaker 1: because you know as well as I do, commercials aren't 2234 01:48:23,960 --> 01:48:26,000 Speaker 1: filmed right now, Like he's not taking a day off 2235 01:48:26,040 --> 01:48:27,720 Speaker 1: in the middle of the season to film these things. 2236 01:48:28,040 --> 01:48:30,080 Speaker 1: So why is it that all of a sudden, we're 2237 01:48:30,120 --> 01:48:33,599 Speaker 1: seeing commercial after commercial that was probably shot three months ago, 2238 01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:36,760 Speaker 1: all launching week after week while we're paying attention to 2239 01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:39,200 Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey, there's just too many. There's too many what 2240 01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:41,439 Speaker 1: ifs here on the Kelsey side. I think there's some 2241 01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:43,280 Speaker 1: sort of a business play on the backside of it. 2242 01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:45,400 Speaker 2: Not all right? 2243 01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:46,280 Speaker 1: Uh? 2244 01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:52,559 Speaker 2: Real of Fugayzy? Bryce Happer is the greatest MLB player 2245 01:48:53,720 --> 01:48:55,200 Speaker 2: since Ken Griffy Junior. 2246 01:48:57,240 --> 01:49:00,599 Speaker 1: God, that feels like that's fugazy, isn't it? Yeah? I mean, 2247 01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:03,080 Speaker 1: am I missing something like why did you throw it 2248 01:49:03,160 --> 01:49:05,840 Speaker 1: out that way? Like I'm scared to say, like that's 2249 01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:07,479 Speaker 1: so obviously a fugazi? Is that now? 2250 01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:10,360 Speaker 3: I'm scared to say? The greatest player ever. 2251 01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:13,320 Speaker 2: Since Kag Griffy. 2252 01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:16,000 Speaker 1: Explain to me how this is real? 2253 01:49:17,240 --> 01:49:19,080 Speaker 2: What do you mean? How is it not real? How 2254 01:49:19,120 --> 01:49:23,479 Speaker 2: many clutch moments? Like look at this body of work? 2255 01:49:24,439 --> 01:49:27,560 Speaker 2: Am I the only one watching about the playoffs for 2256 01:49:27,680 --> 01:49:30,080 Speaker 2: the last couple of years and watching his career? 2257 01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:33,160 Speaker 1: Who's better? 2258 01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:35,240 Speaker 2: Who's better at him? Today? He's better than Trout? 2259 01:49:36,479 --> 01:49:39,120 Speaker 1: Who is you better? Who's better at him? Wow? 2260 01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:41,760 Speaker 3: That's two different things. I using clutch factor two because 2261 01:49:41,760 --> 01:49:44,320 Speaker 3: I mean the clutch. 2262 01:49:46,760 --> 01:49:49,960 Speaker 1: I mean this just feels like a staggering over like 2263 01:49:50,640 --> 01:49:58,160 Speaker 1: the needle moves right. There's a whole group of people 2264 01:49:58,280 --> 01:50:00,439 Speaker 1: like it didn't matter where you were the world. 2265 01:50:00,280 --> 01:50:04,280 Speaker 2: Against Junior, right like you got Ken Griffy, but he's putting. 2266 01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:08,040 Speaker 1: Him in the same category as griffenomenal. 2267 01:50:08,479 --> 01:50:14,800 Speaker 2: When Junior stops playing till today, who's better you eat Jeter? 2268 01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:20,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if it is better. They 2269 01:50:20,280 --> 01:50:22,000 Speaker 1: all had more Q factor bonds. 2270 01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:26,360 Speaker 2: I'm not talking about Q rating. That's nonsense. I'm talking basically. 2271 01:50:26,360 --> 01:50:30,400 Speaker 3: If you're talking just a few if you're throwing the 2272 01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:33,760 Speaker 3: clutch factor in there, that that changes the metric. Is 2273 01:50:33,800 --> 01:50:35,120 Speaker 3: a better player than Bryce. 2274 01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:35,400 Speaker 1: Harper, but. 2275 01:50:37,200 --> 01:50:40,280 Speaker 2: Way more clutch And when you when you add the 2276 01:50:40,439 --> 01:50:46,120 Speaker 2: degree of greatness and clutchness. I mean, that's why I 2277 01:50:46,160 --> 01:50:49,040 Speaker 2: go back to June. Junior was a clutch player, right 2278 01:50:49,120 --> 01:50:51,200 Speaker 2: Otherwise I was thinking about Reggie Jackson. 2279 01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:55,839 Speaker 3: But no, my god, the way back happening. 2280 01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:58,960 Speaker 1: This is happening. Reggie Jackson is what we're doing now. 2281 01:50:59,000 --> 01:51:02,439 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I mean, I feel like Pooholes 2282 01:51:02,520 --> 01:51:04,360 Speaker 3: was pretty clutch in his day with Saint Louis in 2283 01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:05,240 Speaker 3: his heyday. 2284 01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:09,600 Speaker 2: Price prices, it's better he is. 2285 01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:12,040 Speaker 3: I mean, at the very least, I think they're on 2286 01:51:12,200 --> 01:51:14,559 Speaker 3: par I don't think I can say I don't think 2287 01:51:14,600 --> 01:51:16,639 Speaker 3: I can say that Brice Auter is clearly hands down 2288 01:51:16,680 --> 01:51:22,200 Speaker 3: better than Albert Pooholes. I cannot I shout not No, 2289 01:51:23,000 --> 01:51:23,360 Speaker 3: I'm just. 2290 01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:25,880 Speaker 1: Calling on the whole thing because it feels icky like 2291 01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:28,560 Speaker 1: that's just the only This is micro This is my analysis. 2292 01:51:29,560 --> 01:51:31,960 Speaker 2: Anybody used the word ikey is for gazy. 2293 01:51:31,880 --> 01:51:34,720 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Is gonna be in your mind 2294 01:51:34,760 --> 01:51:38,040 Speaker 1: to rest. You're gonna say ikey at some point when 2295 01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:41,720 Speaker 1: you're watching something today And now, dang it. 2296 01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:44,879 Speaker 2: I'm not saying ikey, man, No, I ain't happening. 2297 01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:46,439 Speaker 1: I'm doing the ikey shuffle. 2298 01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:53,720 Speaker 2: I love it. I love it, all right, Thank you 2299 01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:58,080 Speaker 2: for playing real or for Gazy. Great job boys, as 2300 01:51:58,160 --> 01:51:59,960 Speaker 2: always Figgie taken away with some trending. 2301 01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:04,160 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I forgot about that. We come back to 2302 01:52:04,439 --> 01:52:05,719 Speaker 3: I'm still thinking about. 2303 01:52:07,080 --> 01:52:10,360 Speaker 1: Where we just send this thing. Okay, go ahead, all right, sorry. 2304 01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:12,080 Speaker 3: No, all good, all good, well, come back. 2305 01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:17,000 Speaker 2: It's that toutlandish to say Bryce Harper is one of 2306 01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:18,439 Speaker 2: the best players since Jeter. 2307 01:52:18,600 --> 01:52:21,719 Speaker 3: No, I mean now is one of the best players. Okay, 2308 01:52:21,920 --> 01:52:23,040 Speaker 3: it was the best player. 2309 01:52:23,400 --> 01:52:24,320 Speaker 1: That's real for gazy. 2310 01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:25,040 Speaker 2: Got to make a stake. 2311 01:52:25,120 --> 01:52:28,800 Speaker 3: I just said it was for gazy, all right, was 2312 01:52:28,840 --> 01:52:31,920 Speaker 3: not forgazy is the Stanford Cardinal at least not last 2313 01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:35,800 Speaker 3: night Friday Night. Coming back from twenty nine down to Colorado, 2314 01:52:36,200 --> 01:52:39,760 Speaker 3: biggest blown lead in Colorado history, biggest deficit overcome in 2315 01:52:39,800 --> 01:52:43,080 Speaker 3: the history of Stanford, makes sense to me. Stanford storm 2316 01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:45,320 Speaker 3: back to tie the game at thirty six at the 2317 01:52:45,479 --> 01:52:47,840 Speaker 3: end of regulation after they trail twenty nine to nothing 2318 01:52:47,920 --> 01:52:50,320 Speaker 3: at halftime. They kicked the game winning field goal in 2319 01:52:50,439 --> 01:52:53,600 Speaker 3: the second ot. Forty six to forty three was the 2320 01:52:53,720 --> 01:52:56,479 Speaker 3: final score. Travis Hunter did make his return for Colorado. 2321 01:52:56,520 --> 01:52:59,040 Speaker 3: Of course, he separated the last rated liver in that 2322 01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:02,519 Speaker 3: overtime law or when I should say over at Colorado 2323 01:53:02,600 --> 01:53:05,040 Speaker 3: State thirteen catches one hundred and forty yards and a 2324 01:53:05,080 --> 01:53:07,519 Speaker 3: couple of scores there for him. He was outdone by 2325 01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:10,920 Speaker 3: Cardinal receiver Eric Alamanar, who had a career high two 2326 01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:13,280 Speaker 3: hundred and ninety four receiving yards and three scores a 2327 01:53:13,360 --> 01:53:16,160 Speaker 3: school high school history broke that record two undred and 2328 01:53:16,240 --> 01:53:18,800 Speaker 3: ninety four receiving yards there Fresno State with a victory 2329 01:53:18,840 --> 01:53:21,720 Speaker 3: over Utah State thirty seven to thirty two. Tulane also 2330 01:53:21,800 --> 01:53:24,880 Speaker 3: defeated Memphis thirty one to twenty one. Speaking of baseball, 2331 01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:27,600 Speaker 3: Rangers pitcher Max Scherzer says he's healthy and ready to 2332 01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:30,720 Speaker 3: pitch in the American League Championship Series. The team has 2333 01:53:30,760 --> 01:53:32,479 Speaker 3: yet to announce whether or not he will be added 2334 01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:35,080 Speaker 3: to the roster. He has not pitched in since September 2335 01:53:35,160 --> 01:53:38,599 Speaker 3: twelfth because of a muscle strain in his shoulder. Injury 2336 01:53:38,680 --> 01:53:40,360 Speaker 3: news out of the NFL, the Browns will be without 2337 01:53:40,439 --> 01:53:43,720 Speaker 3: quarterback Deshaun Watson and guard Joel Botonio against the forty 2338 01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:46,519 Speaker 3: nine Ers on Sunday. Giants quarterback Daniel Jones would not 2339 01:53:46,560 --> 01:53:48,719 Speaker 3: play against Buffalo as he deals with the neck injury. 2340 01:53:49,000 --> 01:53:51,759 Speaker 3: The Bears plays running back Khalil Herbert on injured reserve. 2341 01:53:52,120 --> 01:53:54,000 Speaker 3: He may return in four weeks. 2342 01:53:54,520 --> 01:53:56,920 Speaker 2: Back to the fellas, All right, fellas that were brought 2343 01:53:56,920 --> 01:54:01,679 Speaker 2: to you by Discover cardabbit it. If you like using 2344 01:54:01,840 --> 01:54:05,240 Speaker 2: debit over credit, should you also get rewarded? Well, now 2345 01:54:05,320 --> 01:54:10,560 Speaker 2: you can discover cash back. 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So we had a 2356 01:55:04,520 --> 01:55:07,720 Speaker 2: lot of a lot of good spirited, real fugazy debates. 2357 01:55:08,440 --> 01:55:14,240 Speaker 2: And you guys like mocked me with my Bryce Harper 2358 01:55:15,240 --> 01:55:19,839 Speaker 2: the greatest baseball player and that includes talent and clutch 2359 01:55:20,960 --> 01:55:25,600 Speaker 2: since Ken Griffy Jr. And you guys like like here 2360 01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:31,400 Speaker 2: Fitzy like half mocked me. I mean, seriously, I don't 2361 01:55:31,440 --> 01:55:33,240 Speaker 2: think that's that's an outrageous take. 2362 01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:36,600 Speaker 1: It just feels out Okay maybe, and I'll show my 2363 01:55:36,680 --> 01:55:38,880 Speaker 1: age here for a second, But you and I both 2364 01:55:38,960 --> 01:55:42,560 Speaker 1: know that like when Ken Griffy Jr. Was Ken Griffy Jr. 2365 01:55:42,680 --> 01:55:46,280 Speaker 1: Like it just resonated at such a different level that 2366 01:55:46,560 --> 01:55:48,560 Speaker 1: like to me, it was just a little shape. I'm 2367 01:55:48,560 --> 01:55:50,880 Speaker 1: a little shook it by the concept of putting Bryce 2368 01:55:50,920 --> 01:55:53,040 Speaker 1: Harper in that like just the two names in the 2369 01:55:53,080 --> 01:55:53,600 Speaker 1: same sense. 2370 01:55:53,640 --> 01:55:56,440 Speaker 2: I mean, we talked about clutching the whole thing. I 2371 01:55:56,520 --> 01:56:00,080 Speaker 2: gotta tell you, I don't know you're paying attention. I 2372 01:56:00,160 --> 01:56:03,000 Speaker 2: think you're not paying his close attention. So I got 2373 01:56:03,120 --> 01:56:08,000 Speaker 2: to bring on one of my brethren boys. Okay, so 2374 01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:14,200 Speaker 2: my man Emilio from Philadelphia is on the line. Emilio, 2375 01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:15,440 Speaker 2: good morning. 2376 01:56:15,800 --> 01:56:16,120 Speaker 9: What's up? 2377 01:56:16,240 --> 01:56:16,440 Speaker 6: Cause? 2378 01:56:16,520 --> 01:56:17,480 Speaker 9: Good morning? How you doing? 2379 01:56:17,560 --> 01:56:17,680 Speaker 6: Bud? 2380 01:56:19,360 --> 01:56:24,000 Speaker 2: Good bye? Brother? I want you to address FITZI and 2381 01:56:24,200 --> 01:56:25,040 Speaker 2: Figgy right now. 2382 01:56:26,040 --> 01:56:28,000 Speaker 9: Well, I want to make a couple of points here. 2383 01:56:28,560 --> 01:56:30,160 Speaker 9: First of all, I want to say I love listening 2384 01:56:30,160 --> 01:56:32,120 Speaker 9: to this show on the weekend. I think you guys 2385 01:56:32,160 --> 01:56:37,000 Speaker 9: are awesome. But now I totally take a personal obviously, 2386 01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:39,720 Speaker 9: I'm from Philly. When we're talking about Philly and Philly teams, 2387 01:56:39,760 --> 01:56:41,160 Speaker 9: you know, four for four and all. You know what 2388 01:56:41,160 --> 01:56:45,600 Speaker 9: I mean. Because but you bring up Bryce and to me, 2389 01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:49,200 Speaker 9: the intangibles that were missing. Yeah, of course he's the 2390 01:56:49,240 --> 01:56:52,560 Speaker 9: greatest baseball player since Ken Griffy Junior. Because it's a 2391 01:56:52,640 --> 01:56:55,360 Speaker 9: new eraror it's a new time in baseball. Baseball was 2392 01:56:55,880 --> 01:56:58,040 Speaker 9: failing and falling behind and losing viewership. 2393 01:56:58,800 --> 01:56:59,720 Speaker 6: You got a guy like Bryce. 2394 01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:01,360 Speaker 9: As a matter of fact, you have me on hold 2395 01:57:01,400 --> 01:57:03,160 Speaker 9: for a little bit, and I'm hearing all these ads 2396 01:57:03,200 --> 01:57:06,920 Speaker 9: and these commercials of these podcasts about baseball, and they're 2397 01:57:06,920 --> 01:57:09,640 Speaker 9: all bringing up Bryce Harper that's number one. And then 2398 01:57:09,760 --> 01:57:12,480 Speaker 9: I'm sitting here thinking to myself, Well, this guy not 2399 01:57:12,600 --> 01:57:16,440 Speaker 9: only has what we talked about in Ken Griffy, but 2400 01:57:16,600 --> 01:57:19,440 Speaker 9: this guy brought the clubhouse together in such a way 2401 01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:22,160 Speaker 9: that you have never seen before the culture of this club, 2402 01:57:22,200 --> 01:57:27,320 Speaker 9: the intangible of Bryce immersing himself into the city, wanting 2403 01:57:27,440 --> 01:57:29,160 Speaker 9: to be part of it, loving it the way that 2404 01:57:29,240 --> 01:57:31,640 Speaker 9: he does. Has this team for the last two years 2405 01:57:32,200 --> 01:57:35,400 Speaker 9: doing what they're doing, and I think it's unprecedented. I 2406 01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:38,040 Speaker 9: haven't seen a player lift their team like this, that 2407 01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:41,280 Speaker 9: everybody through the lineup just comes through and wants to 2408 01:57:41,640 --> 01:57:44,879 Speaker 9: play so great for each other. Like that's name Tangel 2409 01:57:44,960 --> 01:57:46,800 Speaker 9: I'm talking about. And you didn't get that with Ken 2410 01:57:46,840 --> 01:57:50,200 Speaker 9: Griffy Union, that he lifts his team to that level. No, 2411 01:57:50,360 --> 01:57:53,240 Speaker 9: he carried his team. But this guy is getting others 2412 01:57:53,320 --> 01:57:54,320 Speaker 9: to play really great. 2413 01:57:55,520 --> 01:58:00,520 Speaker 2: That's my I address now, Amelie who of And by 2414 01:58:00,560 --> 01:58:03,840 Speaker 2: the way, check out the Bruno Brothers for all of 2415 01:58:03,960 --> 01:58:07,760 Speaker 2: your Italian uh meat, cheeses and delicacies. 2416 01:58:07,880 --> 01:58:09,200 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that sounds delightful. 2417 01:58:09,480 --> 01:58:12,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, go to the Bruno Brothers dot com. You're gonna 2418 01:58:12,680 --> 01:58:15,760 Speaker 2: go nuts. But the Bilio is one of my oldest 2419 01:58:15,800 --> 01:58:20,160 Speaker 2: friends from from South Philly, so so I had to 2420 01:58:20,240 --> 01:58:25,000 Speaker 2: break of all so answer Melio's question about Bryce Harper 2421 01:58:25,160 --> 01:58:29,520 Speaker 2: almost as a spirit animal for sure. 2422 01:58:30,240 --> 01:58:32,600 Speaker 1: I mean, we're putting the spirit animal puts you at 2423 01:58:32,600 --> 01:58:35,920 Speaker 1: the top of this list, Like I don't know, y'all, 2424 01:58:36,000 --> 01:58:38,160 Speaker 1: Like I think you're under selling a what Ken Griffy 2425 01:58:38,240 --> 01:58:41,400 Speaker 1: Junior meant to Seattle at the time. But I also 2426 01:58:41,480 --> 01:58:43,240 Speaker 1: think that there's just this moment of like, Okay, I'll 2427 01:58:43,280 --> 01:58:45,160 Speaker 1: buy that you brought a locker room together and that's 2428 01:58:45,200 --> 01:58:48,000 Speaker 1: a nifty story, but that doesn't make you. I mean, 2429 01:58:49,280 --> 01:58:54,360 Speaker 1: I'm just by the way, I looked up the MLB 2430 01:58:54,480 --> 01:58:57,000 Speaker 1: All Decade Team for the twenty tens, and Bryce Harper 2431 01:58:57,160 --> 01:58:59,680 Speaker 1: was second Team All Decade. But you know that that's 2432 01:58:59,720 --> 01:59:00,720 Speaker 1: been a few years since then. 2433 01:59:01,520 --> 01:59:03,640 Speaker 2: You like looking up nonsense, don't you like it? 2434 01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:09,440 Speaker 1: I'm an aggregator of information, like like nonsense lists from 2435 01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:16,120 Speaker 1: Google dot com. It's for kazy talent right here. 2436 01:59:16,560 --> 01:59:20,360 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, 2437 01:59:20,400 --> 01:59:28,600 Speaker 2: good morning, good morning, Abody. It is eight am in 2438 01:59:28,640 --> 01:59:30,800 Speaker 2: the east, five in the west. 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And uh, you know, so I had 2457 02:00:39,520 --> 02:00:42,600 Speaker 2: to bring all my main emelia from South Philly to 2458 02:00:43,080 --> 02:00:46,240 Speaker 2: kind of help butcherss my case FITZI. 2459 02:00:46,840 --> 02:00:48,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I liked it, you know, but I countered 2460 02:00:48,920 --> 02:00:52,160 Speaker 1: your buddy from Philly. And with this Price Harper take 2461 02:00:52,240 --> 02:00:55,959 Speaker 1: with the very simple Major League Baseball, you know, announced 2462 02:00:56,000 --> 02:00:58,680 Speaker 1: an All Decade team for the twenty tens, of which 2463 02:00:58,720 --> 02:01:01,720 Speaker 1: Price Harper is on is a team All Decade team 2464 02:01:02,040 --> 02:01:03,120 Speaker 1: member from the twenty ten. 2465 02:01:03,280 --> 02:01:06,440 Speaker 2: Hey, he comes in the end of that decade. B 2466 02:01:07,400 --> 02:01:08,320 Speaker 2: who cares about that? 2467 02:01:09,280 --> 02:01:11,680 Speaker 1: I mean, it's voted on by a group of by 2468 02:01:11,680 --> 02:01:14,560 Speaker 1: a group of established people, so like there has to be. 2469 02:01:15,040 --> 02:01:19,320 Speaker 2: It's not just someone else's opinion. I mean, but let's 2470 02:01:19,840 --> 02:01:23,440 Speaker 2: it gave me athlon when it came to uh U 2471 02:01:23,720 --> 02:01:26,720 Speaker 2: C notre day, and I like trying to discredit that one. 2472 02:01:27,160 --> 02:01:30,520 Speaker 1: I like to go out and aggregate information. So MLB 2473 02:01:30,760 --> 02:01:33,800 Speaker 1: made it clear that they talked to writers, they talked 2474 02:01:33,840 --> 02:01:38,280 Speaker 1: to editors, they talked to people journalists that cover for 2475 02:01:38,760 --> 02:01:40,680 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball. This was voted on by a group 2476 02:01:40,720 --> 02:01:42,800 Speaker 1: of experts, and those group of experts decided he was 2477 02:01:42,880 --> 02:01:45,680 Speaker 1: second team. Nothing wrong with second team. It's just, you know, 2478 02:01:45,880 --> 02:01:48,080 Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with being great. You're just trying to 2479 02:01:48,120 --> 02:01:51,560 Speaker 1: put him in like great great, and I don't You're 2480 02:01:51,600 --> 02:01:54,120 Speaker 1: trying to put him in cultural phenomenon great and. 2481 02:01:54,160 --> 02:01:57,920 Speaker 2: I know ideas not even say cultural phenomenon when you 2482 02:01:58,320 --> 02:02:02,280 Speaker 2: bring that a't you know? I said since since junior, 2483 02:02:04,160 --> 02:02:09,200 Speaker 2: and I said, give you greatness plus clutch. This equals 2484 02:02:09,280 --> 02:02:13,520 Speaker 2: Bryce Harper, by the way, he's one of Is he 2485 02:02:13,640 --> 02:02:15,120 Speaker 2: not one of the biggest names in the sport? 2486 02:02:15,320 --> 02:02:17,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, one hundred percent. No, absolutely, you got show 2487 02:02:18,120 --> 02:02:20,480 Speaker 1: and you got Bryce. Yeah. No, I agree with that. 2488 02:02:21,360 --> 02:02:23,760 Speaker 1: You're you're absolutely right that you know it's show hey 2489 02:02:23,800 --> 02:02:28,160 Speaker 1: and Bryce for sure. I just this is what earlier 2490 02:02:28,280 --> 02:02:30,080 Speaker 1: when we were talking about Brock Party and you were like, 2491 02:02:30,080 --> 02:02:32,520 Speaker 1: they're just parts of me that no matter what, I 2492 02:02:32,680 --> 02:02:34,360 Speaker 1: just look at it. I'm like, that doesn't make sense. 2493 02:02:34,680 --> 02:02:37,080 Speaker 1: My brain doesn't think of Bryce Harper that way. And 2494 02:02:37,520 --> 02:02:39,400 Speaker 1: I don't have a I don't have a real good 2495 02:02:39,440 --> 02:02:41,240 Speaker 1: reason for why he's not thought it that way. 2496 02:02:41,320 --> 02:02:41,520 Speaker 6: For me. 2497 02:02:41,640 --> 02:02:44,360 Speaker 1: It's just it just doesn't. I don't sit there and say, 2498 02:02:44,400 --> 02:02:47,360 Speaker 1: oh my God, like for an entire chapter. Maybe it's 2499 02:02:47,400 --> 02:02:49,000 Speaker 1: because I was a kid when it when it happened, 2500 02:02:49,040 --> 02:02:50,920 Speaker 1: but for an entire chapter, when I think of a 2501 02:02:51,000 --> 02:02:53,960 Speaker 1: player like Ken Griffey Jr. Or you know, a player 2502 02:02:54,080 --> 02:02:55,880 Speaker 1: like Bonds at his peak at that time, you know, 2503 02:02:55,960 --> 02:02:57,120 Speaker 1: when when when you're. 2504 02:02:57,360 --> 02:03:01,520 Speaker 2: Giving you Since then, I haven't, I didn't say he's junior. 2505 02:03:01,680 --> 02:03:05,480 Speaker 2: I mean that's why I stopped it there. Now you 2506 02:03:05,640 --> 02:03:09,440 Speaker 2: got Jeter and you got a Rod, and you know, 2507 02:03:09,680 --> 02:03:12,360 Speaker 2: I mean, since then, you've we talked about shoe Hey, 2508 02:03:12,920 --> 02:03:16,560 Speaker 2: who's uniqueness to being the starting pitcher and a prolific 2509 02:03:16,680 --> 02:03:17,240 Speaker 2: power hitter. 2510 02:03:17,520 --> 02:03:20,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think there's some What's interesting 2511 02:03:20,080 --> 02:03:22,840 Speaker 1: about each of those comparisons is that those are comparisons 2512 02:03:22,960 --> 02:03:26,520 Speaker 1: based on such different styles of player. Like, I think 2513 02:03:26,560 --> 02:03:30,040 Speaker 1: there is a real conversation about what Jeter means meant 2514 02:03:30,080 --> 02:03:32,560 Speaker 1: to the Yankees, right Like, I think that's all very 2515 02:03:32,720 --> 02:03:34,400 Speaker 1: very fair and sort of the way he was viewed 2516 02:03:34,400 --> 02:03:36,320 Speaker 1: in the pressure that comes with being the way he 2517 02:03:36,440 --> 02:03:37,680 Speaker 1: was viewed in the way he played the game. I 2518 02:03:37,720 --> 02:03:40,200 Speaker 1: think that's that's conversation. Hey show Hey is doing things 2519 02:03:40,240 --> 02:03:42,640 Speaker 1: that are so wildly different than everybody. I don't even 2520 02:03:42,680 --> 02:03:44,680 Speaker 1: know how to lump him in with the same as 2521 02:03:44,720 --> 02:03:47,400 Speaker 1: anybody else. Right Like, when you're when you're basically this 2522 02:03:47,560 --> 02:03:50,080 Speaker 1: generation's babe Ruth, what is anybody supposed to do with that? 2523 02:03:50,120 --> 02:03:52,320 Speaker 1: How he's supposed to make that happen? So like, I 2524 02:03:52,400 --> 02:03:54,480 Speaker 1: think each of them fall in their own pot and 2525 02:03:54,560 --> 02:03:55,560 Speaker 1: maybe that's without a. 2526 02:03:55,560 --> 02:03:57,880 Speaker 2: Doubt, without a doubt. And you know, it's funny because 2527 02:03:57,880 --> 02:04:01,840 Speaker 2: I give you the Harper thing because see Harper coming 2528 02:04:01,880 --> 02:04:08,760 Speaker 2: off Tommy John and learns first base and like comes 2529 02:04:09,240 --> 02:04:12,920 Speaker 2: comes back in a lineup months before he should learns 2530 02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:17,120 Speaker 2: a new position, and it's just one of the mos 2531 02:04:17,160 --> 02:04:21,280 Speaker 2: klutch guy I've ever seen come through my town. And 2532 02:04:21,560 --> 02:04:24,360 Speaker 2: I just I mean in awe of Bryce Harper the 2533 02:04:24,440 --> 02:04:27,000 Speaker 2: baseball player. Now that's because I got a front row 2534 02:04:27,080 --> 02:04:31,120 Speaker 2: seat to it. And I'm using all these other these 2535 02:04:31,160 --> 02:04:34,800 Speaker 2: other aspects of it, including him coming off of Tommy John, 2536 02:04:35,360 --> 02:04:38,960 Speaker 2: And that's what makes me gush, that makes sense. 2537 02:04:39,280 --> 02:04:43,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, you're right absolutely a thousand percent. And you know, 2538 02:04:43,520 --> 02:04:46,000 Speaker 1: when you think about also part of what you mentioned 2539 02:04:46,040 --> 02:04:49,000 Speaker 1: there with playing in Philly and like all of that 2540 02:04:49,200 --> 02:04:51,600 Speaker 1: makes sense. I just did not put Bryce Harper in 2541 02:04:51,680 --> 02:04:53,960 Speaker 1: that guy. Maybe I'm rethinking it, like maybe you know, 2542 02:04:54,040 --> 02:04:55,760 Speaker 1: it's like one of those moments where you realize that 2543 02:04:56,160 --> 02:04:58,880 Speaker 1: maybe you should you should restack it. I'm willing to 2544 02:04:58,960 --> 02:05:01,160 Speaker 1: restack it. I just didn't. I didn't have Bryce in 2545 02:05:01,240 --> 02:05:03,240 Speaker 1: that that moment. For me, it feels like in the 2546 02:05:03,360 --> 02:05:05,800 Speaker 1: national consciousness moment. For me, it just didn't feel like 2547 02:05:05,800 --> 02:05:06,760 Speaker 1: a resident's surprised. 2548 02:05:06,760 --> 02:05:08,560 Speaker 2: You gotta be honest, because he's a great ballplayer. Like, 2549 02:05:08,560 --> 02:05:11,840 Speaker 2: I don't know why, but you you don't really see that, 2550 02:05:12,360 --> 02:05:15,000 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't figure do you see Bryce Harper 2551 02:05:15,120 --> 02:05:20,120 Speaker 2: as Do you not see him as a mythical kind 2552 02:05:20,160 --> 02:05:21,200 Speaker 2: of player, you know. 2553 02:05:22,240 --> 02:05:25,560 Speaker 3: Mythical like Babe Ruth. No, is he a great player 2554 02:05:25,760 --> 02:05:26,879 Speaker 3: in this current generation? 2555 02:05:27,120 --> 02:05:29,640 Speaker 2: You get that, you get by your. 2556 02:05:31,400 --> 02:05:34,760 Speaker 3: Trust me multiple time m v P as a perform 2557 02:05:34,800 --> 02:05:37,680 Speaker 3: as well in the postseason. He's a great player. He's 2558 02:05:37,800 --> 02:05:39,480 Speaker 3: I mean, if he stays on this track, he'll be 2559 02:05:39,560 --> 02:05:42,160 Speaker 3: a Hall of Famer. Absolutely. I'm not denying any of 2560 02:05:42,200 --> 02:05:52,600 Speaker 3: that either. No, I don't think fit but like, which 2561 02:05:52,640 --> 02:05:53,879 Speaker 3: is what you're kind of trying. 2562 02:05:55,720 --> 02:05:56,720 Speaker 1: Is he better than cheater? 2563 02:05:57,320 --> 02:05:57,360 Speaker 6: Like? 2564 02:05:58,040 --> 02:06:02,040 Speaker 2: Is more significant than cheeter? Now, significance is different you. 2565 02:06:02,360 --> 02:06:05,600 Speaker 2: You have a way of It's funny I learned the 2566 02:06:05,680 --> 02:06:09,840 Speaker 2: little things about you. You have a way of like 2567 02:06:10,200 --> 02:06:17,760 Speaker 2: historical significance, ratings, like popular opinion. You have a way 2568 02:06:17,840 --> 02:06:23,240 Speaker 2: of defining like I like, so I'm more of a nerd, right, 2569 02:06:23,400 --> 02:06:27,120 Speaker 2: I'm a sports nerd. So I look at things more 2570 02:06:27,320 --> 02:06:30,440 Speaker 2: like you know, it's like I look at the skill 2571 02:06:30,520 --> 02:06:34,800 Speaker 2: set of rock Birdy and I go, yeah, like that 2572 02:06:35,520 --> 02:06:38,280 Speaker 2: you you like you look at you look at athlon 2573 02:06:38,400 --> 02:06:40,480 Speaker 2: and go, well, all burnt out. 2574 02:06:40,400 --> 02:06:43,440 Speaker 1: Of bab no, no, no. I think this is part 2575 02:06:43,480 --> 02:06:46,000 Speaker 1: of Like I'll go back to my music background on this, Like, 2576 02:06:46,320 --> 02:06:49,640 Speaker 1: you can have the most talented musician in the entire world, 2577 02:06:49,920 --> 02:06:51,800 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that they're part of the best band. 2578 02:06:51,880 --> 02:06:53,720 Speaker 1: And you can have the best band in the entire world, 2579 02:06:53,920 --> 02:06:56,480 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean they're great musicians. Like I think you 2580 02:06:56,560 --> 02:06:59,160 Speaker 1: can look at some of the most successful artists of 2581 02:06:59,280 --> 02:07:01,200 Speaker 1: all time and look at them and say, yeah, like 2582 02:07:01,840 --> 02:07:03,760 Speaker 1: that person is good at what they do, but when 2583 02:07:03,800 --> 02:07:06,000 Speaker 1: you put them all together, that's what makes them great. 2584 02:07:06,000 --> 02:07:09,200 Speaker 1: I'm an aggregator of information, so like I will always 2585 02:07:09,280 --> 02:07:11,120 Speaker 1: go to trusted sources, right, I. 2586 02:07:11,120 --> 02:07:12,360 Speaker 2: Don't like that. I don't. 2587 02:07:12,400 --> 02:07:17,320 Speaker 1: I am a stubborn ox and I go to raid don't. 2588 02:07:17,440 --> 02:07:19,680 Speaker 2: I don't care about anybody else what everybody else says. 2589 02:07:20,240 --> 02:07:23,000 Speaker 1: I go to ratings because you know that again that 2590 02:07:23,080 --> 02:07:23,600 Speaker 1: comes back to it. 2591 02:07:23,720 --> 02:07:27,280 Speaker 2: But it's like the popular popular opinion needs nothing to me. 2592 02:07:28,240 --> 02:07:30,920 Speaker 1: Oh well, popular opinion, because I think something. 2593 02:07:30,840 --> 02:07:34,320 Speaker 2: Popular opinion is is what does that mean? But the 2594 02:07:34,440 --> 02:07:36,960 Speaker 2: populace sometimes that's bad taste. 2595 02:07:37,000 --> 02:07:39,720 Speaker 1: Sure, but but it still tastes, it resonates, so like 2596 02:07:40,240 --> 02:07:42,920 Speaker 1: does it at some point if conversation. 2597 02:07:42,680 --> 02:07:47,720 Speaker 2: Your point is that the MLB playoffs are their only 2598 02:07:47,880 --> 02:07:50,520 Speaker 2: success is ratings, and that's it, right. 2599 02:07:50,480 --> 02:07:53,840 Speaker 1: I think, well, the only success, probably not, but one 2600 02:07:53,880 --> 02:07:57,120 Speaker 1: of the main successes. Yeah, like the So the opening 2601 02:07:57,240 --> 02:07:59,560 Speaker 1: line of the song is this country music song. The 2602 02:07:59,600 --> 02:08:02,720 Speaker 1: opening of the song save a horse, Ride a Cowboy. Okay, 2603 02:08:02,960 --> 02:08:05,040 Speaker 1: it says I walk into the room passing out one 2604 02:08:05,080 --> 02:08:07,280 Speaker 1: hundred dollar bills. That's the opening line of that. A 2605 02:08:07,360 --> 02:08:09,120 Speaker 1: lot of people may not know the story that comes 2606 02:08:09,200 --> 02:08:11,360 Speaker 1: from the guy that wrote a John Rich part of 2607 02:08:11,400 --> 02:08:14,040 Speaker 1: Bigger Rich walked into a songwriting class at a local 2608 02:08:14,080 --> 02:08:16,960 Speaker 1: school here, Belmont University, and he passed out one hundred 2609 02:08:16,960 --> 02:08:19,760 Speaker 1: dollars bills to the whole room. And then he gave 2610 02:08:19,880 --> 02:08:22,240 Speaker 1: this example of you can want to make the best 2611 02:08:22,360 --> 02:08:24,320 Speaker 1: music in the entire world, but until you make one 2612 02:08:24,360 --> 02:08:26,600 Speaker 1: hundred dollar bills, you can't make any music. You got 2613 02:08:26,680 --> 02:08:28,920 Speaker 1: to make money to make music. And that's just a 2614 02:08:29,960 --> 02:08:32,840 Speaker 1: core value for me when I think about the fact that, like, 2615 02:08:33,200 --> 02:08:35,840 Speaker 1: when you talk about what's success when you talk about 2616 02:08:35,880 --> 02:08:39,240 Speaker 1: what makes a rivalry resonate, Well, you know, I may 2617 02:08:39,360 --> 02:08:41,920 Speaker 1: not love, like I don't love crunchy peanut butter, but 2618 02:08:42,000 --> 02:08:43,400 Speaker 1: if I look around it and I say, like, I 2619 02:08:43,520 --> 02:08:46,840 Speaker 1: prefer creamy peanut butter. But if and I don't know this, 2620 02:08:47,040 --> 02:08:49,600 Speaker 1: but if the rest of the world prefers crunchy peanut butter, 2621 02:08:49,840 --> 02:08:51,800 Speaker 1: I gotta tip my hand, and I got to be like, hey, 2622 02:08:52,000 --> 02:08:52,640 Speaker 1: I respect it. 2623 02:08:52,760 --> 02:08:54,400 Speaker 2: I don't get it, but that's the way you all 2624 02:08:54,440 --> 02:08:54,960 Speaker 2: going to eat your. 2625 02:08:54,920 --> 02:09:01,080 Speaker 1: People, I feel listen. That's great argument. Fantastic argument. 2626 02:09:02,120 --> 02:09:06,440 Speaker 2: We also had this debate about Kelsey, Travis Kelcey and 2627 02:09:06,560 --> 02:09:14,800 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift as the most profound sports and celebrity couple. 2628 02:09:15,920 --> 02:09:19,040 Speaker 2: But Shay, you got that beat. 2629 02:09:20,200 --> 02:09:23,520 Speaker 7: I actually do, guys. So we had a caller call 2630 02:09:23,640 --> 02:09:27,080 Speaker 7: in and it's Rick from Pennsylvania. So thank you Rick 2631 02:09:27,160 --> 02:09:32,400 Speaker 7: for this. Joe DiMaggio and Marilyn Monroe actually were married 2632 02:09:32,520 --> 02:09:34,240 Speaker 7: for a little bit of time. It was a small 2633 02:09:34,360 --> 02:09:36,680 Speaker 7: amount of time, but they were definitely married, and I 2634 02:09:36,760 --> 02:09:40,400 Speaker 7: definitely think that beats Serena Williams and also the Travis 2635 02:09:40,480 --> 02:09:41,640 Speaker 7: kelce and Swift one. 2636 02:09:42,400 --> 02:09:45,800 Speaker 3: You're right, yep, fellas, I mean, at the top of 2637 02:09:45,880 --> 02:09:48,560 Speaker 3: the food shain and both of their professions for a 2638 02:09:48,680 --> 02:09:51,160 Speaker 3: long period of time. You can't beat that. 2639 02:09:51,880 --> 02:09:55,360 Speaker 1: You're not beating that. Yeah, there's no The minute I 2640 02:09:55,720 --> 02:09:58,080 Speaker 1: heard that, I'd say, yep, I have lost that debate, 2641 02:09:58,240 --> 02:10:00,920 Speaker 1: Like there's there's literally no I think you're gonna say, 2642 02:10:01,200 --> 02:10:03,640 Speaker 1: it's gonna be more meaningful to culture at that time 2643 02:10:03,760 --> 02:10:06,680 Speaker 1: than Maryland was and Demagio was. You put those two together. 2644 02:10:06,760 --> 02:10:09,120 Speaker 1: I don't even know what the modern equivalent of that 2645 02:10:09,240 --> 02:10:12,120 Speaker 1: would be. I mean, I I don't know what the 2646 02:10:12,280 --> 02:10:14,840 Speaker 1: modern Demagio Marilyn Monroe would possibly be. 2647 02:10:15,080 --> 02:10:19,840 Speaker 10: How about Sheryl Crow and Armstrong the bike Bike Rider? 2648 02:10:21,440 --> 02:10:25,520 Speaker 10: That's good, Mark, Yeah, how about Jennifer Lopez and a Rod. 2649 02:10:27,080 --> 02:10:29,120 Speaker 1: I think the problem with JLO is that, I mean 2650 02:10:29,160 --> 02:10:34,760 Speaker 1: the problem, but there's no problem with Jay Lory. I think, 2651 02:10:35,560 --> 02:10:37,480 Speaker 1: by the way, call me Taylor. I think the problem 2652 02:10:38,320 --> 02:10:41,440 Speaker 1: Taylor is that it is like j Loo and could 2653 02:10:41,480 --> 02:10:44,520 Speaker 1: be its own game, Like six Degrees of Separation from 2654 02:10:44,600 --> 02:10:47,800 Speaker 1: Kevin from Kevin Bacon is like she dated too many 2655 02:10:47,840 --> 02:10:49,360 Speaker 1: people for any one of them to stay. 2656 02:10:49,400 --> 02:10:51,840 Speaker 2: You got the well a Rob Madonna too, So he 2657 02:10:51,960 --> 02:10:56,880 Speaker 2: goes back, you know, he goes back to that that's 2658 02:10:56,960 --> 02:10:57,560 Speaker 2: back to back. 2659 02:10:57,880 --> 02:11:01,560 Speaker 1: That's wild, I mean, and that's Pete Davidson like work there. 2660 02:11:01,640 --> 02:11:03,120 Speaker 1: It's it's just like talk. 2661 02:11:03,000 --> 02:11:05,240 Speaker 3: About the savage Pete Davis. And that's that's what I 2662 02:11:05,320 --> 02:11:07,920 Speaker 3: don't get and I never will not that he's not 2663 02:11:08,000 --> 02:11:10,880 Speaker 3: a funny guy. Yeah, I do like him. I don't 2664 02:11:10,920 --> 02:11:13,080 Speaker 3: love him, but I like him, but I that's just 2665 02:11:13,160 --> 02:11:16,800 Speaker 3: that's one of those I don't I don't think I loved. 2666 02:11:17,160 --> 02:11:18,720 Speaker 7: I saw him on a date with Kim actually and 2667 02:11:18,800 --> 02:11:21,960 Speaker 7: cal Vassi's d I didn't get it either. No, Yeah, 2668 02:11:22,000 --> 02:11:24,400 Speaker 7: they go to a sushi place out there all the time, 2669 02:11:24,560 --> 02:11:26,160 Speaker 7: and I grew up there, so I always go to 2670 02:11:26,200 --> 02:11:28,280 Speaker 7: the sushi place too, And we were just sitting there 2671 02:11:28,320 --> 02:11:29,800 Speaker 7: and it was really quiet. There weren't a lot of 2672 02:11:29,840 --> 02:11:31,920 Speaker 7: people in there either. And then I don't know where 2673 02:11:31,960 --> 02:11:34,480 Speaker 7: we just everyone gets super quiet. When the door opens. 2674 02:11:34,600 --> 02:11:37,240 Speaker 7: My back's facing the door, and I'm like, oh, it's 2675 02:11:37,280 --> 02:11:39,040 Speaker 7: going on. Why is everyone being quiet all the time? 2676 02:11:39,640 --> 02:11:41,640 Speaker 7: Say that out loud, and I just I kind of 2677 02:11:41,680 --> 02:11:44,560 Speaker 7: get a puff of some mm hmm and then like 2678 02:11:44,640 --> 02:11:46,240 Speaker 7: a smell of it and then like I just a 2679 02:11:46,400 --> 02:11:49,760 Speaker 7: huge smell just perfume and then long hair and I 2680 02:11:49,800 --> 02:11:52,520 Speaker 7: see Kim Kardashian and I'm like, who's this blonde guy 2681 02:11:52,600 --> 02:11:55,520 Speaker 7: next one? And it's Pete Davidson, who looks even worse 2682 02:11:55,640 --> 02:11:58,240 Speaker 7: than he would usually, which I feel horrible saying, but 2683 02:11:58,760 --> 02:12:00,200 Speaker 7: it's I do not get it. 2684 02:12:00,600 --> 02:12:01,120 Speaker 2: I know what you mean. 2685 02:12:01,160 --> 02:12:03,920 Speaker 1: I do not get it. I think we all went 2686 02:12:03,960 --> 02:12:05,720 Speaker 1: wrong in one spot, like should have just focused on 2687 02:12:05,840 --> 02:12:08,760 Speaker 1: being funny, like right, you know what, I'm gonna go 2688 02:12:08,880 --> 02:12:10,880 Speaker 1: back and invent a time machine. I'm gonna go back 2689 02:12:10,880 --> 02:12:12,320 Speaker 1: to little me and I'm gonna say, put the violin 2690 02:12:12,360 --> 02:12:18,680 Speaker 1: down and just work on jokes, be funny that I 2691 02:12:18,840 --> 02:12:20,160 Speaker 1: love it. I love it. 2692 02:12:20,800 --> 02:12:27,520 Speaker 2: That's fantastic. That's fantastic. All right. Uh, there's I got 2693 02:12:27,640 --> 02:12:29,720 Speaker 2: so many places we've gotta go. We got our betting analyst, 2694 02:12:30,320 --> 02:12:34,120 Speaker 2: the Big Brain coming up as well, so we got 2695 02:12:34,160 --> 02:12:36,160 Speaker 2: a lot to do. But I gotta ask you guys 2696 02:12:36,200 --> 02:12:39,200 Speaker 2: a question, who gets this right? 2697 02:12:41,160 --> 02:12:41,360 Speaker 3: Did you? 2698 02:12:41,840 --> 02:12:45,680 Speaker 2: In the In the movie The Godfather, there's a great 2699 02:12:45,720 --> 02:12:54,520 Speaker 2: Godfather too. There's a great scene where Michael goes goes 2700 02:12:54,640 --> 02:13:01,440 Speaker 2: to the house and he goes and visits he arts Nemesis, 2701 02:13:02,480 --> 02:13:06,640 Speaker 2: who set him up for murder, and there's a football 2702 02:13:06,760 --> 02:13:12,120 Speaker 2: game playing in the background. And he goes, Michael, do 2703 02:13:12,200 --> 02:13:15,839 Speaker 2: you like the football? And the football game is between 2704 02:13:15,960 --> 02:13:22,440 Speaker 2: two teams? Who is it? Do you know? 2705 02:13:23,720 --> 02:13:30,200 Speaker 11: I don't no idea. Actually really nobody knows. No, you 2706 02:13:30,360 --> 02:13:35,560 Speaker 11: stunt me after you would get that? Don't remember? Yeah, 2707 02:13:35,640 --> 02:13:36,680 Speaker 11: I don't remember at all. 2708 02:13:37,720 --> 02:13:40,080 Speaker 3: I remember the scene, but I don't necessarily remember the 2709 02:13:40,120 --> 02:13:41,800 Speaker 3: game or you know. And it's also been a while 2710 02:13:41,840 --> 02:13:44,240 Speaker 3: since I've seen the movie, but I definitely remember the scene. 2711 02:13:46,240 --> 02:13:50,440 Speaker 2: So he said, I'm in Roth's house, right, and Hi'm 2712 02:13:50,520 --> 02:13:54,480 Speaker 2: and roth is. He's like, I like the spots, Michael, 2713 02:13:55,880 --> 02:13:59,120 Speaker 2: We do you know what we were? We like the football? Mike, 2714 02:13:59,240 --> 02:14:02,320 Speaker 2: you like the football? He goes, no, you know, not really, 2715 02:14:03,040 --> 02:14:05,200 Speaker 2: and he's watching the game. They put the game up loud. 2716 02:14:05,320 --> 02:14:14,120 Speaker 2: It's USC Notre Dame, USC Notre Dame. Hiven Rof is 2717 02:14:14,240 --> 02:14:17,879 Speaker 2: watching when Michael comes. 2718 02:14:17,720 --> 02:14:21,360 Speaker 1: Over, which is I did not remember that at all. Wow. 2719 02:14:22,320 --> 02:14:25,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good's that's his story. So that's the 2720 02:14:25,120 --> 02:14:28,640 Speaker 2: historical rivalry that takes place tonight. Two great games, and 2721 02:14:29,240 --> 02:14:32,120 Speaker 2: I only bring that off to transition into the two 2722 02:14:32,160 --> 02:14:35,480 Speaker 2: best games. It's funny because USC Notre Dame and Caleb Williams, 2723 02:14:35,960 --> 02:14:38,360 Speaker 2: who I believe is all that and I would chank 2724 02:14:38,440 --> 02:14:43,760 Speaker 2: for UH is a great game, but perhaps even better 2725 02:14:44,680 --> 02:14:48,520 Speaker 2: is Washington Oregon. And I gotta tell you, I cannot 2726 02:14:48,600 --> 02:14:51,880 Speaker 2: wait for that. That's a great football game, those two teams, 2727 02:14:52,240 --> 02:14:55,280 Speaker 2: and I think they're underplayed. Have you fitsy? 2728 02:14:55,360 --> 02:14:55,520 Speaker 6: Have you? 2729 02:14:55,680 --> 02:14:58,200 Speaker 2: I'm sure you made your trails out there when you 2730 02:14:58,240 --> 02:15:03,640 Speaker 2: were at ESPN to UH to watch it's Washington, right. 2731 02:15:04,160 --> 02:15:07,520 Speaker 1: No, I've been out to Washington and Oregon both on tour, 2732 02:15:07,600 --> 02:15:09,400 Speaker 1: but never we never went out west. We tried to 2733 02:15:09,440 --> 02:15:12,040 Speaker 1: avoid West coast as much as possible. They're out there 2734 02:15:12,080 --> 02:15:15,240 Speaker 1: today for game day, but no, I've actually not been 2735 02:15:15,320 --> 02:15:18,560 Speaker 1: to a game at either Husky Stealing or Yeah or 2736 02:15:19,320 --> 02:15:19,880 Speaker 1: either one of them. 2737 02:15:20,080 --> 02:15:22,440 Speaker 2: I've never probably a few places you haven't been. 2738 02:15:22,920 --> 02:15:25,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like it, but I mean, but you 2739 02:15:25,880 --> 02:15:28,680 Speaker 1: talk about an atmosphere today that's going to be absolutely 2740 02:15:28,800 --> 02:15:32,120 Speaker 1: wild and electric. I did talk to my buddy Harry Douglass. 2741 02:15:32,120 --> 02:15:34,880 Speaker 1: It's always out there this morning at three in the morning, 2742 02:15:34,920 --> 02:15:37,440 Speaker 1: I think his time out there. He said that everybody's 2743 02:15:37,440 --> 02:15:39,320 Speaker 1: already lined up in the streets. That is going to 2744 02:15:39,400 --> 02:15:41,000 Speaker 1: be a wild atmosphere. 2745 02:15:42,360 --> 02:15:46,120 Speaker 2: What side of like fig the UH that like those 2746 02:15:46,200 --> 02:15:50,919 Speaker 2: two because you're you're a PAC twelve expert. Those two schools, 2747 02:15:51,000 --> 02:15:53,760 Speaker 2: how much. What's that rivalry like between those two? So 2748 02:15:53,880 --> 02:15:59,560 Speaker 2: if I remember Lincoln our man, Lincoln Kennedy, the Ducks. 2749 02:15:59,480 --> 02:16:01,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, was big for them up there. 2750 02:16:01,400 --> 02:16:01,680 Speaker 5: It was. 2751 02:16:01,840 --> 02:16:05,000 Speaker 3: So you know, you had your interstate rivalries. You have SEUCLA, 2752 02:16:05,120 --> 02:16:07,400 Speaker 3: you have the Apple Cup with Washington and Washington State, 2753 02:16:08,080 --> 02:16:10,800 Speaker 3: which I feel like it was necessary, not necessarily a 2754 02:16:10,880 --> 02:16:14,120 Speaker 3: hated rivalry between those two. More of respect. I feel 2755 02:16:14,160 --> 02:16:17,200 Speaker 3: like Washington Oregon kind of hate each other. That's more 2756 02:16:17,240 --> 02:16:19,200 Speaker 3: of like the we don't want to lose to them. 2757 02:16:19,280 --> 02:16:22,080 Speaker 3: Let's talk some trash. Let's it's one of those not 2758 02:16:22,240 --> 02:16:25,680 Speaker 3: disrespectful that you're gonna, you know, face somebody's property over 2759 02:16:25,760 --> 02:16:28,120 Speaker 3: it or anything. But it's definitely like one of the 2760 02:16:28,200 --> 02:16:31,960 Speaker 3: more fierce rivalries within the conference. So I would say 2761 02:16:31,960 --> 02:16:35,520 Speaker 3: that that's Washington Oregon was a huge deal, huge deal 2762 02:16:35,560 --> 02:16:36,119 Speaker 3: between the two. 2763 02:16:36,959 --> 02:16:39,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool, man, That's gonna be a great game. 2764 02:16:39,320 --> 02:16:41,520 Speaker 2: All right, we gotta take quick time out. We'll come back. 2765 02:16:42,280 --> 02:16:45,560 Speaker 2: We'll take a look at this the weekend from a 2766 02:16:45,640 --> 02:16:49,240 Speaker 2: betting standpoint with our man, the big Brain. We'll find 2767 02:16:49,240 --> 02:16:52,080 Speaker 2: out what everybody's watching this weekend. We'll get an update 2768 02:16:52,560 --> 02:16:57,640 Speaker 2: on Fitzie's haunted house, which I want to make the 2769 02:16:57,680 --> 02:17:01,440 Speaker 2: pilgrimage too before Halloween. Where the fella is right here 2770 02:17:01,520 --> 02:17:07,480 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio, you follow the football game. I 2771 02:17:07,520 --> 02:17:12,640 Speaker 2: don't know. I enjoy watching football in the afternoon. One 2772 02:17:12,680 --> 02:17:16,240 Speaker 2: of the things I love about this country baseball too. 2773 02:17:16,320 --> 02:17:16,480 Speaker 6: Ball. 2774 02:17:20,040 --> 02:17:26,360 Speaker 2: Oh that's fabulous. And in the background is us is 2775 02:17:26,560 --> 02:17:32,520 Speaker 2: usc Notre Dame as him and Roth says that one 2776 02:17:32,560 --> 02:17:35,840 Speaker 2: of the great films of all tide that God bothered too. 2777 02:17:37,440 --> 02:17:38,440 Speaker 2: Do you like the football? 2778 02:17:38,560 --> 02:17:43,160 Speaker 1: FITSI man, there's just something about you when you say 2779 02:17:43,280 --> 02:17:45,480 Speaker 1: this sounds like you say it sounds cool. If I'm like, 2780 02:17:45,560 --> 02:17:47,960 Speaker 1: do you like the football? It sounds creepy and old 2781 02:17:48,120 --> 02:17:50,120 Speaker 1: you say that it sounds cool, Like there's just something 2782 02:17:50,160 --> 02:17:52,240 Speaker 1: about that. You've got that magic. 2783 02:17:52,720 --> 02:17:55,600 Speaker 2: Yeah you do too. Hey, you know what's good? The 2784 02:17:55,640 --> 02:17:59,560 Speaker 2: magic is our man, the Big Brain. As he comes aboard, 2785 02:18:00,320 --> 02:18:03,119 Speaker 2: he's actually looks at this record two hundred and twenty 2786 02:18:03,640 --> 02:18:08,960 Speaker 2: and one hundred and eighty two on his website. He's ridiculous. 2787 02:18:09,240 --> 02:18:11,360 Speaker 2: I know you like the football, big Brain. 2788 02:18:13,360 --> 02:18:15,560 Speaker 6: Good morning, Anthony. Great to hear your voice, buddy. 2789 02:18:15,920 --> 02:18:18,240 Speaker 1: Yeah you too, buddy. It's benish I got bit a 2790 02:18:18,320 --> 02:18:18,640 Speaker 1: rough go. 2791 02:18:19,959 --> 02:18:24,160 Speaker 6: That Jerry j dt FMI thinks I I send that 2792 02:18:24,240 --> 02:18:26,560 Speaker 6: to you? No, no, I maybe did I send that 2793 02:18:26,640 --> 02:18:29,360 Speaker 6: to you. I watched that like thirty times in a row. 2794 02:18:29,800 --> 02:18:32,160 Speaker 6: I couldn't stop watching it. I enjoyed it so much. 2795 02:18:33,080 --> 02:18:37,960 Speaker 6: I loved it. I loved it. Oh that's awesome, absolutely 2796 02:18:38,400 --> 02:18:40,240 Speaker 6: like I couldn't stop watching it. 2797 02:18:40,920 --> 02:18:41,960 Speaker 2: Oh that's fabulous. 2798 02:18:42,320 --> 02:18:44,280 Speaker 6: That made my day. That made my day. 2799 02:18:45,240 --> 02:18:49,240 Speaker 2: So let me let me let's start off with the 2800 02:18:49,400 --> 02:18:53,400 Speaker 2: college today. We've been talking a lot about USC Notre 2801 02:18:53,520 --> 02:18:58,720 Speaker 2: Dame and Oregon Washington two disc great games. 2802 02:19:00,320 --> 02:19:03,039 Speaker 6: Yeah they really are. Look these are these are two 2803 02:19:03,120 --> 02:19:06,879 Speaker 6: great games. I do lean Anthony, I you know, I listen. 2804 02:19:07,800 --> 02:19:09,800 Speaker 6: Bo Nicks has been great in Oregon. There's nothing bad 2805 02:19:09,879 --> 02:19:15,120 Speaker 6: to say how they've been. They've been absolutely terrific. Look, 2806 02:19:15,200 --> 02:19:19,160 Speaker 6: my numbers made that between Washington right around three and 2807 02:19:19,440 --> 02:19:22,160 Speaker 6: they're laying three. No, it was two and a half 2808 02:19:22,800 --> 02:19:25,280 Speaker 6: for a long time. I do think Washington will win 2809 02:19:25,360 --> 02:19:28,720 Speaker 6: the game. I just trust Pennix and a big spot 2810 02:19:28,879 --> 02:19:31,960 Speaker 6: more than I trust Knicks. For me, I think that 2811 02:19:32,040 --> 02:19:34,240 Speaker 6: think it's gonna be a good game. I like an 2812 02:19:34,480 --> 02:19:38,120 Speaker 6: exciting game, but I do think Washington will get to 2813 02:19:38,280 --> 02:19:40,560 Speaker 6: w But again, I think the numbers more or us 2814 02:19:40,640 --> 02:19:44,080 Speaker 6: about right. The USC game, Anthony is interesting. I just 2815 02:19:44,680 --> 02:19:47,080 Speaker 6: I look at the total in the game, and the 2816 02:19:47,120 --> 02:19:52,000 Speaker 6: totals around sixty points. I just didish USC defense, Anthony. 2817 02:19:52,040 --> 02:19:54,200 Speaker 6: Would your son's high school teams score thirty on them? 2818 02:19:54,879 --> 02:19:55,119 Speaker 2: Yeah? 2819 02:19:56,040 --> 02:19:59,720 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm just I mean, I just can't. I 2820 02:20:00,280 --> 02:20:02,440 Speaker 6: I mean I think I lean Notre Dame and I 2821 02:20:02,560 --> 02:20:07,200 Speaker 6: lean over because look, I think Hartman, now, I mean Hartman, 2822 02:20:07,240 --> 02:20:10,320 Speaker 6: after having to face some tough games, is probably gonna 2823 02:20:10,360 --> 02:20:15,240 Speaker 6: feel like he's back in high school, okay, and he's 2824 02:20:15,240 --> 02:20:17,200 Speaker 6: gonna look like the Heisman Trophy winner again the night, 2825 02:20:17,240 --> 02:20:19,720 Speaker 6: in my opinion, because of who he's going against. And 2826 02:20:19,800 --> 02:20:23,119 Speaker 6: I look, I think Kale Williams is incredible, and I'm 2827 02:20:23,160 --> 02:20:25,520 Speaker 6: sure USC will just score their docap points forty and 2828 02:20:25,560 --> 02:20:28,560 Speaker 6: I think both teams lot success offensively. But I think 2829 02:20:28,640 --> 02:20:31,520 Speaker 6: Notre Dame does win this game. I just don't trust 2830 02:20:31,640 --> 02:20:33,800 Speaker 6: USC to be able to get any kind of stop 2831 02:20:34,640 --> 02:20:36,959 Speaker 6: and a big spot here, my. 2832 02:20:37,000 --> 02:20:39,600 Speaker 1: Friend, you have cracked open the Heisman door. So I've 2833 02:20:39,640 --> 02:20:41,920 Speaker 1: been anxious to ask you this actually all week because 2834 02:20:42,280 --> 02:20:44,320 Speaker 1: I feel like bownecks Michael Pennix feels like one of 2835 02:20:44,320 --> 02:20:46,760 Speaker 1: those Heisman moments. At what point do you look at 2836 02:20:46,800 --> 02:20:48,959 Speaker 1: it and say, hey, now's the right time. The windows 2837 02:20:49,120 --> 02:20:52,240 Speaker 1: enough open, We've seen enough proof it's right to place 2838 02:20:52,320 --> 02:20:54,320 Speaker 1: a wager on somebody in the Heisman race. 2839 02:20:54,760 --> 02:20:56,280 Speaker 6: Well, that's a great question. But if you look at it, 2840 02:20:56,320 --> 02:21:00,720 Speaker 6: the Heisman Trophy last year, Kal Williams up until the 2841 02:21:00,800 --> 02:21:04,920 Speaker 6: last week, if I recall correctly before he like since 2842 02:21:04,959 --> 02:21:06,959 Speaker 6: it in the last week, who was who was gonna 2843 02:21:06,959 --> 02:21:09,800 Speaker 6: win it all? Last year? And then they had a 2844 02:21:09,879 --> 02:21:12,720 Speaker 6: bad last game. They went from the prohibit a favorite 2845 02:21:12,760 --> 02:21:16,039 Speaker 6: to like cal Wins was one of unanimous I'm spacing 2846 02:21:16,160 --> 02:21:19,160 Speaker 6: right now who it was. But if Cale Williams was 2847 02:21:19,400 --> 02:21:22,600 Speaker 6: not Lemery Pete was not even like he was a 2848 02:21:22,680 --> 02:21:26,080 Speaker 6: huge underdog with like two weeks ago, he was not 2849 02:21:26,240 --> 02:21:28,120 Speaker 6: one of the he was not the favorite to win 2850 02:21:28,160 --> 02:21:30,920 Speaker 6: the Heisen Trophy, and then he overcame. I can't think 2851 02:21:30,959 --> 02:21:34,920 Speaker 6: who it was right, Maybe it was Bryce Young, I 2852 02:21:34,959 --> 02:21:38,120 Speaker 6: don't remember, but it was he just cal Williams did 2853 02:21:38,200 --> 02:21:41,520 Speaker 6: overcome it. I feel like it look these narratives of 2854 02:21:41,520 --> 02:21:45,560 Speaker 6: a Hivesan Trophy changes pretty quickly, So I do think 2855 02:21:45,600 --> 02:21:47,760 Speaker 6: that you can have a guy, let's savase right now, 2856 02:21:48,360 --> 02:21:51,760 Speaker 6: the winner of that game Nix and Pennix will probably 2857 02:21:52,040 --> 02:21:56,000 Speaker 6: take the lead. Right But here's the thing. Kale Williams 2858 02:21:56,120 --> 02:21:59,000 Speaker 6: plays you know, I know they you know, let's those 2859 02:21:59,040 --> 02:22:03,160 Speaker 6: tennis wins. Tel Williams plays Washington. Okay, if he gets 2860 02:22:03,240 --> 02:22:06,200 Speaker 6: that win against Washington, then I think he would take 2861 02:22:06,240 --> 02:22:09,320 Speaker 6: that lead again. So to me, I think it's just 2862 02:22:09,520 --> 02:22:12,360 Speaker 6: like I think it's very fluent and changes with the wins. 2863 02:22:12,400 --> 02:22:15,000 Speaker 6: So no, I would not feel comfortable right now. Even 2864 02:22:15,080 --> 02:22:18,360 Speaker 6: if Phone Nicks or Michael Pennix has a career day 2865 02:22:18,640 --> 02:22:20,480 Speaker 6: and there was for four hundred and fifty yards and 2866 02:22:20,600 --> 02:22:23,840 Speaker 6: five touchdowns, I absolutely think someone like Cal Williams can 2867 02:22:23,879 --> 02:22:26,360 Speaker 6: steal it right back if usc where to beat them 2868 02:22:26,600 --> 02:22:28,959 Speaker 6: that team and when those teams are ever really playing 2869 02:22:29,000 --> 02:22:30,240 Speaker 6: the pack in the Pac twelve. 2870 02:22:31,040 --> 02:22:33,720 Speaker 2: Fellas from the Tireck dot Com Studios. We're brought to 2871 02:22:33,720 --> 02:22:36,480 Speaker 2: you by Progressive Insurance. 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I do grow that, 2881 02:23:04,640 --> 02:23:07,600 Speaker 6: but I I look, I think Minnesota is the is 2882 02:23:07,800 --> 02:23:11,199 Speaker 6: just uh, I haven't power rated is you know, significantly 2883 02:23:11,240 --> 02:23:15,360 Speaker 6: better than the Bears. Minnesota is a you know, it's funny. 2884 02:23:15,400 --> 02:23:17,160 Speaker 6: Last year they were the luckiest team in the NFL. 2885 02:23:17,640 --> 02:23:19,760 Speaker 6: This year they've more or less been the unluckiest team 2886 02:23:19,760 --> 02:23:22,920 Speaker 6: in the NFL. They've actually lost a lot of tight 2887 02:23:23,000 --> 02:23:25,080 Speaker 6: games they could have won. Last year they were winning 2888 02:23:25,120 --> 02:23:27,560 Speaker 6: those games. I still think the Bears are just really 2889 02:23:27,640 --> 02:23:29,680 Speaker 6: really poor. I like that line deserves to be over. 2890 02:23:29,959 --> 02:23:34,039 Speaker 2: I agree. I love Minnesota. I love them. I'm sorry, FITZI, 2891 02:23:34,120 --> 02:23:36,879 Speaker 2: I just loved that. I love the Vikings Tomorrow. Flores 2892 02:23:37,400 --> 02:23:40,840 Speaker 2: is a really good defensive coach. I think he I 2893 02:23:40,920 --> 02:23:43,760 Speaker 2: think they dominated. I love Minnesota. I'm sorry. Fits. 2894 02:23:45,200 --> 02:23:48,920 Speaker 1: No good guys, good good. 2895 02:23:51,200 --> 02:23:53,080 Speaker 6: I like Andy and another I'll give you another one 2896 02:23:53,120 --> 02:23:55,320 Speaker 6: that I like. I like a total in a game, 2897 02:23:55,440 --> 02:23:58,320 Speaker 6: and it's interesting and you always have to be going 2898 02:23:58,360 --> 02:24:01,920 Speaker 6: to adjust here and look, Joe Burrow is like be 2899 02:24:02,040 --> 02:24:03,800 Speaker 6: a guy that they've been my favorite guy. And he 2900 02:24:03,879 --> 02:24:06,920 Speaker 6: started off slow right first four games. That Kaffe injury 2901 02:24:07,000 --> 02:24:10,680 Speaker 6: looked like it was still lingering last week against Arizona. 2902 02:24:11,440 --> 02:24:14,120 Speaker 6: Dare I say he looked like Joe Burrow. I like 2903 02:24:14,240 --> 02:24:17,400 Speaker 6: over forty four and a half points from Cincinnati against Seattle. 2904 02:24:17,520 --> 02:24:20,320 Speaker 6: I think both these offensives have success, not just one. 2905 02:24:20,600 --> 02:24:23,480 Speaker 6: I think it's for me a twenty seven to twenty four, 2906 02:24:24,120 --> 02:24:26,120 Speaker 6: you know, kind of get again. My numbers made this 2907 02:24:26,280 --> 02:24:29,240 Speaker 6: line forty seven and a half. I took over forty 2908 02:24:29,280 --> 02:24:32,000 Speaker 6: four and a half. I think there's not nearly enough 2909 02:24:32,080 --> 02:24:36,359 Speaker 6: respect for these offenses. I think Bengals looked much healthier, 2910 02:24:37,400 --> 02:24:39,080 Speaker 6: much better on the offensive side of the ball. I 2911 02:24:39,160 --> 02:24:42,039 Speaker 6: knew Seattle had one hundred and thousand sacks against the Giants. 2912 02:24:42,360 --> 02:24:44,240 Speaker 6: Don't think they're gonna have quite that many this week. 2913 02:24:44,560 --> 02:24:46,400 Speaker 6: I think both teams again do do well on the 2914 02:24:46,440 --> 02:24:47,920 Speaker 6: offensive side of the ball, and I like over forty 2915 02:24:47,959 --> 02:24:48,880 Speaker 6: four and a half quite a bit. 2916 02:24:49,640 --> 02:24:52,000 Speaker 1: So educate me a little bit on what everybody sees 2917 02:24:52,080 --> 02:24:55,080 Speaker 1: in the Patriots, because I've been asked repeatedly this week 2918 02:24:55,480 --> 02:24:58,640 Speaker 1: why the Patriots are such a close rival or close 2919 02:24:58,720 --> 02:25:01,680 Speaker 1: matchup with the Raiders. According to yes, you. 2920 02:25:01,720 --> 02:25:03,720 Speaker 6: Know, it's a great question. Look a lot like I 2921 02:25:03,840 --> 02:25:05,760 Speaker 6: do have a Raiders minus two and a half ticket 2922 02:25:05,840 --> 02:25:08,680 Speaker 6: in my pocket. It's up to three though. Now here's 2923 02:25:08,720 --> 02:25:10,920 Speaker 6: the thing, a lot of it still goes by because 2924 02:25:10,920 --> 02:25:14,480 Speaker 6: we're only in week six, So you're still getting a 2925 02:25:14,640 --> 02:25:18,160 Speaker 6: residue of what the team was power rated before the year. Okay, 2926 02:25:18,879 --> 02:25:21,640 Speaker 6: and the Patriots were rated ahead of the Raiders. Okay, 2927 02:25:22,000 --> 02:25:26,080 Speaker 6: so you're still getting a little bit of that. Okay, 2928 02:25:26,200 --> 02:25:29,520 Speaker 6: this team was still projected to be, you know, a 2929 02:25:30,320 --> 02:25:34,039 Speaker 6: seven and a half win team going into the year. Okay, 2930 02:25:34,560 --> 02:25:37,040 Speaker 6: and yes they're they're one and four right now, but 2931 02:25:37,480 --> 02:25:41,080 Speaker 6: they're still getting what they were supposed to be versus 2932 02:25:41,160 --> 02:25:44,000 Speaker 6: what they've had been. Now come week ten, Week eleven, 2933 02:25:44,160 --> 02:25:47,280 Speaker 6: Week twelve, you know, you're not going to get that anymore. 2934 02:25:47,879 --> 02:25:51,240 Speaker 6: It's going to evaporate. But we're still getting a little 2935 02:25:51,280 --> 02:25:53,120 Speaker 6: bit of that. That is the answer to answer question. 2936 02:25:53,240 --> 02:25:55,640 Speaker 6: Why is you're still getting a little bit of what 2937 02:25:55,760 --> 02:25:59,080 Speaker 6: the teams did previously and what the odds makers thought 2938 02:25:59,120 --> 02:26:02,400 Speaker 6: they were going to be based coming into the season, 2939 02:26:03,440 --> 02:26:06,000 Speaker 6: and that is the only reason is because of that, 2940 02:26:06,360 --> 02:26:08,760 Speaker 6: because it's still early enough in the year that it's 2941 02:26:08,840 --> 02:26:11,920 Speaker 6: not just being completely thrown away that this team was 2942 02:26:11,959 --> 02:26:14,800 Speaker 6: supposed to be on paper deef. But again, you take 2943 02:26:14,840 --> 02:26:18,840 Speaker 6: away the two best players defensively with Judan and Gonzales, 2944 02:26:20,520 --> 02:26:23,200 Speaker 6: this covered pretty bare. This is a non talented team 2945 02:26:23,240 --> 02:26:25,640 Speaker 6: at this point that's firing out of control in a 2946 02:26:25,720 --> 02:26:28,960 Speaker 6: negative way with a horrible quarterback. Now again I'm not 2947 02:26:29,040 --> 02:26:31,680 Speaker 6: saying the Raiders are from bouquet of Roses, but. 2948 02:26:33,400 --> 02:26:34,040 Speaker 2: I do agree. 2949 02:26:34,120 --> 02:26:36,840 Speaker 6: Again, I thought this line deserved to be higher than 2950 02:26:36,879 --> 02:26:37,520 Speaker 6: what it opened at. 2951 02:26:37,560 --> 02:26:42,959 Speaker 2: For sure. A lot of huge lines this week. Miami fourteen. 2952 02:26:44,640 --> 02:26:49,360 Speaker 2: The nine years are up to ten. You got Ram seven, Eagles, 2953 02:26:49,440 --> 02:26:53,840 Speaker 2: six and a half, Bills fifteen. Is there any other 2954 02:26:54,560 --> 02:26:58,359 Speaker 2: upset alerts you spy, any shockers? 2955 02:27:00,400 --> 02:27:02,080 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm not picking anything, but I will say 2956 02:27:02,120 --> 02:27:04,200 Speaker 6: out of the teams that you said, if I had 2957 02:27:04,280 --> 02:27:06,720 Speaker 6: to pick one out of the teams that you said, 2958 02:27:07,840 --> 02:27:09,960 Speaker 6: and again if I'm not going to say the Bills, 2959 02:27:09,959 --> 02:27:13,320 Speaker 6: and I'm not gonna say Miami obviously, but I would 2960 02:27:13,400 --> 02:27:15,480 Speaker 6: lean just because the Eagles have had again a couple 2961 02:27:15,560 --> 02:27:17,960 Speaker 6: as you know Anthony Big, a Philly guy, A couple 2962 02:27:18,000 --> 02:27:20,480 Speaker 6: of injuries to key injuries on the defensive side of 2963 02:27:20,480 --> 02:27:25,320 Speaker 6: the ball. Yeah, I don't think the Jets are got awful. 2964 02:27:25,360 --> 02:27:27,760 Speaker 6: I actually bet I recommend I bet them over five 2965 02:27:27,760 --> 02:27:29,360 Speaker 6: and a half wins. They have to go three and 2966 02:27:29,480 --> 02:27:31,600 Speaker 6: nine for men to lose that bet. Again, I don't 2967 02:27:31,640 --> 02:27:34,440 Speaker 6: think the Jets are three and nineteen. I actually I 2968 02:27:34,560 --> 02:27:38,119 Speaker 6: think they're closer to an average team in the three 2969 02:27:38,160 --> 02:27:40,760 Speaker 6: and nine team. I think that game can be close. 2970 02:27:41,280 --> 02:27:43,520 Speaker 6: I do. Again, I didn't bet it when it was 2971 02:27:43,560 --> 02:27:46,360 Speaker 6: at seven. I was very close six and a half now. 2972 02:27:46,560 --> 02:27:49,840 Speaker 6: But look the Eagles that you know, Look I baited 2973 02:27:49,840 --> 02:27:52,600 Speaker 6: them last week against the Rams. They played I thought, Anthoniel, 2974 02:27:52,600 --> 02:27:53,959 Speaker 6: if you agree with me, I thought that was their 2975 02:27:54,240 --> 02:27:56,000 Speaker 6: I thought that was their best game of the year. Actually, 2976 02:27:56,080 --> 02:27:58,920 Speaker 6: I thought they played really well against the Rams. Team 2977 02:27:58,959 --> 02:28:02,800 Speaker 6: would really good offense, and they just controlled the ball, 2978 02:28:02,879 --> 02:28:05,560 Speaker 6: controlled the clock, and I thought they played a really clean, 2979 02:28:05,680 --> 02:28:09,520 Speaker 6: good game. But if I had to pick one team 2980 02:28:09,600 --> 02:28:13,600 Speaker 6: that I thought maybe could be upset, that was the 2981 02:28:13,640 --> 02:28:16,000 Speaker 6: quote unquote, and the big favorites of your doing survivor 2982 02:28:16,360 --> 02:28:18,280 Speaker 6: the Eagles to be the team, I'd be the most 2983 02:28:18,320 --> 02:28:20,160 Speaker 6: scared of taking this week cause I don't think Frisco 2984 02:28:20,280 --> 02:28:22,000 Speaker 6: is going to lose, and I don't think it's going 2985 02:28:22,040 --> 02:28:23,760 Speaker 6: to be Miami and I don't think it's going to 2986 02:28:23,800 --> 02:28:26,240 Speaker 6: be Buffalo. So I would probably if you maybe force 2987 02:28:26,280 --> 02:28:27,640 Speaker 6: a team, I would say Philly. 2988 02:28:28,440 --> 02:28:31,160 Speaker 1: We got an early morning matchup yet again for more 2989 02:28:31,360 --> 02:28:34,720 Speaker 1: London football between the Ravens and the Titans. What do 2990 02:28:34,800 --> 02:28:37,960 Speaker 1: you like there and how do you let London impact. 2991 02:28:38,000 --> 02:28:39,840 Speaker 1: I feel like I'll ever do is lose money on 2992 02:28:39,920 --> 02:28:41,880 Speaker 1: London bets, So like, what am I supposed to do 2993 02:28:41,959 --> 02:28:43,000 Speaker 1: there at this point? Goold, guys? 2994 02:28:43,040 --> 02:28:45,200 Speaker 6: Well, last week, you know it's interesting. Last week on 2995 02:28:45,280 --> 02:28:49,040 Speaker 6: the show, guys, we talked about why we thought and 2996 02:28:49,320 --> 02:28:51,680 Speaker 6: I know you guys agreed. We talked about the Jaguars 2997 02:28:52,240 --> 02:28:54,640 Speaker 6: against the Bills and one of the versus Jaguars player 2998 02:28:54,680 --> 02:28:57,240 Speaker 6: every year, but we like the fact that the travel 2999 02:28:57,320 --> 02:28:59,840 Speaker 6: is so important in the NFL. But we talked about 3000 02:28:59,879 --> 02:29:02,440 Speaker 6: how the Biddles choose to not get there till Friday 3001 02:29:02,959 --> 02:29:05,680 Speaker 6: and the Jaguars has been there for two weeks. I 3002 02:29:05,760 --> 02:29:09,840 Speaker 6: thought that was a huge advantage. Yeah, and now now 3003 02:29:10,000 --> 02:29:13,080 Speaker 6: now game like this, there's really no advantage that both 3004 02:29:13,120 --> 02:29:16,080 Speaker 6: these teams theoretically are in the exact same spot. Now, 3005 02:29:16,160 --> 02:29:21,760 Speaker 6: this is again another good example of putting in a 3006 02:29:21,800 --> 02:29:24,360 Speaker 6: bed at the right time. My biggest bet of the 3007 02:29:24,400 --> 02:29:27,160 Speaker 6: week is actually the Ravens minus three. But the line's 3008 02:29:27,200 --> 02:29:29,680 Speaker 6: now four and a half, and for anyone listens, oh, 3009 02:29:29,720 --> 02:29:32,160 Speaker 6: it's only a point and a half difference. Well, that's 3010 02:29:32,240 --> 02:29:36,120 Speaker 6: like saying eight four thousand calories versus a thousand calories. 3011 02:29:36,120 --> 02:29:39,520 Speaker 6: There's only a three thousand calori difference. Well, it's quite 3012 02:29:39,520 --> 02:29:43,600 Speaker 6: a bit right like that. That is that is the 3013 02:29:43,640 --> 02:29:46,520 Speaker 6: difference between a winning wager and a new troyager. I 3014 02:29:46,640 --> 02:29:49,120 Speaker 6: made this line for between four and four and a 3015 02:29:49,160 --> 02:29:51,440 Speaker 6: half and I got I got three. I think, look, 3016 02:29:51,440 --> 02:29:53,240 Speaker 6: I think the Ravens was a much better team here. 3017 02:29:53,440 --> 02:29:55,240 Speaker 6: The way they lost the game last weekend for me 3018 02:29:55,480 --> 02:29:58,320 Speaker 6: was I thought one of the I thought were just 3019 02:29:58,879 --> 02:30:01,680 Speaker 6: you know, it's funny, and I I said to a 3020 02:30:01,760 --> 02:30:04,280 Speaker 6: buddy of mine, I go that Raiders Steelers game is 3021 02:30:04,320 --> 02:30:07,440 Speaker 6: going to be I'm sorry that a Ravens Steeers game, Baltimore. 3022 02:30:07,440 --> 02:30:09,880 Speaker 6: If you just don't watch the game, if you bet 3023 02:30:09,959 --> 02:30:12,360 Speaker 6: that game, you bet Pittsburgh, You're gonna watch that game 3024 02:30:12,600 --> 02:30:16,280 Speaker 6: and feel like you're on the wrong side ninety nine 3025 02:30:16,280 --> 02:30:18,039 Speaker 6: percent of the time. But you're just gonna come out 3026 02:30:18,040 --> 02:30:20,480 Speaker 6: of the game winning it. And that's exactly what happened, 3027 02:30:20,520 --> 02:30:24,680 Speaker 6: because Baltimore did everything but cover that spread and win 3028 02:30:24,720 --> 02:30:29,240 Speaker 6: the game. They dominated Pittsburgh's, but they just found the 3029 02:30:29,280 --> 02:30:32,000 Speaker 6: way to lose it. I'm not big on Tennessee. I 3030 02:30:32,080 --> 02:30:35,040 Speaker 6: do think Baltimore is a legitimate playoff team, guys, and 3031 02:30:35,200 --> 02:30:36,760 Speaker 6: I do think they win this game. But a guy 3032 02:30:36,879 --> 02:30:38,640 Speaker 6: can't recommend laying the four and a half when it 3033 02:30:38,720 --> 02:30:41,200 Speaker 6: was sitting at three. But I do think that they 3034 02:30:41,280 --> 02:30:42,040 Speaker 6: do win this game. 3035 02:30:42,879 --> 02:30:44,640 Speaker 2: I hear you. 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Right here on Fox Sports Radio any iHeartRadio. 3042 02:31:04,200 --> 02:31:07,320 Speaker 2: App All right, last thing, big Brain, give me a 3043 02:31:07,879 --> 02:31:13,600 Speaker 2: Tomorrow Astros Rangers, and then tell us how people can 3044 02:31:13,640 --> 02:31:14,200 Speaker 2: get a hold of you. 3045 02:31:15,040 --> 02:31:16,400 Speaker 6: Okay, well you can get a hold of the first 3046 02:31:16,440 --> 02:31:21,760 Speaker 6: on Brad's bets on Twitter Brad's Best That's yeah, it's 3047 02:31:21,760 --> 02:31:24,039 Speaker 6: funny at me. I do have and I'm wondering if 3048 02:31:24,080 --> 02:31:26,040 Speaker 6: I may be the only one who has this. I 3049 02:31:26,120 --> 02:31:28,480 Speaker 6: have a four hundred and one ticket on Arizona. I'm 3050 02:31:28,480 --> 02:31:32,120 Speaker 6: playing the Rangers in the World Series, but I am 3051 02:31:32,160 --> 02:31:36,040 Speaker 6: a huge Phillies fan, so I kind of can't lose 3052 02:31:36,080 --> 02:31:38,360 Speaker 6: either way there potentially, but I do think the Rangers 3053 02:31:38,360 --> 02:31:40,200 Speaker 6: are gonna win. With me, I think the Rangers are 3054 02:31:40,240 --> 02:31:43,680 Speaker 6: better than the Houston Plus with the Max Schurz or 3055 02:31:43,760 --> 02:31:46,760 Speaker 6: news of him, I think it's going to come back 3056 02:31:46,840 --> 02:31:48,920 Speaker 6: here if even in the bullten, I think that's a 3057 02:31:49,320 --> 02:31:52,200 Speaker 6: huge advantage. You can get them in the series plus 3058 02:31:52,280 --> 02:31:55,280 Speaker 6: a dollar twenty plus a dollar twenty five. I think 3059 02:31:55,320 --> 02:31:57,560 Speaker 6: they're better, I really do. I think the Rangers are 3060 02:31:57,600 --> 02:31:59,800 Speaker 6: better than the Astros, and I expect the Rangers to 3061 02:32:01,280 --> 02:32:04,360 Speaker 6: Phillies Diamondbacks. Price is expensive and sitting around at dollars 3062 02:32:04,400 --> 02:32:07,080 Speaker 6: seventy right now, but I think the Phillies are a 3063 02:32:07,240 --> 02:32:10,200 Speaker 6: far better team, and I do mean far better than Arizona. 3064 02:32:11,480 --> 02:32:14,000 Speaker 6: I would be very surprised if the Phillies do not 3065 02:32:14,080 --> 02:32:16,400 Speaker 6: win that series. In the best of seven. But you 3066 02:32:16,440 --> 02:32:18,959 Speaker 6: know what's funny, and do you look at baseball? Arizona 3067 02:32:20,120 --> 02:32:23,240 Speaker 6: was and I that was my biggest investment in futures 3068 02:32:23,680 --> 02:32:26,800 Speaker 6: throughout the year, and I thought I was sitting on 3069 02:32:26,920 --> 02:32:29,600 Speaker 6: dead money. But again, baseball, you know, you just get 3070 02:32:29,680 --> 02:32:32,200 Speaker 6: in the playoffs kind of like hockey. Anything can happen. 3071 02:32:32,520 --> 02:32:34,640 Speaker 6: But I do think it's gonna be plad Olphie against Texas. 3072 02:32:34,800 --> 02:32:37,600 Speaker 6: I think your World Series champions will be the Philadelphia Phillies. 3073 02:32:37,600 --> 02:32:39,959 Speaker 6: I think they are the best team. I think Philaelphi 3074 02:32:40,000 --> 02:32:41,760 Speaker 6: and the Rangers are the two best teams at this point, 3075 02:32:42,080 --> 02:32:43,600 Speaker 6: and I think that that's going to be the matchup. 3076 02:32:44,040 --> 02:32:46,880 Speaker 2: A great stuff, big brain. Good best of luck to 3077 02:32:46,920 --> 02:32:48,359 Speaker 2: you this weekend, my brother. 3078 02:32:49,879 --> 02:32:51,360 Speaker 6: You guys, I good luck. Have one after the Thank 3079 02:32:51,400 --> 02:32:52,040 Speaker 6: you so much, guys. 3080 02:32:52,760 --> 02:32:56,160 Speaker 2: All right, we'll come back where the fell is. Man, 3081 02:32:56,200 --> 02:32:59,039 Speaker 2: it goes by entirely too fast. We'll come by, come 3082 02:32:59,160 --> 02:33:04,160 Speaker 2: back and what everybody's watching this weekend? And uh listen, 3083 02:33:04,520 --> 02:33:07,320 Speaker 2: bid you would do? We love hanging with you every Saturday, 3084 02:33:07,480 --> 02:33:09,720 Speaker 2: fellas right here Fox Sports Radio. 3085 02:33:10,520 --> 02:33:13,039 Speaker 12: The one two to Castianos, swung on, hitting the air, 3086 02:33:13,120 --> 02:33:14,160 Speaker 12: blasted deep. 3087 02:33:13,959 --> 02:33:14,680 Speaker 1: To left field. 3088 02:33:15,040 --> 02:33:18,880 Speaker 12: No doubt about this one into this futt of the 3089 02:33:19,080 --> 02:33:24,280 Speaker 12: second deck of solo home run neck Castiano, So sit 3090 02:33:24,360 --> 02:33:26,440 Speaker 12: a second solo home run of the night, and the 3091 02:33:26,520 --> 02:33:28,200 Speaker 12: Phillies are on top three to one. 3092 02:33:29,440 --> 02:33:36,000 Speaker 2: Nah, I love you guys, Man Mark Shay, Thank you guys. 3093 02:33:36,480 --> 02:33:38,560 Speaker 2: That was to play today. Yes, brought to you by 3094 02:33:38,640 --> 02:33:43,560 Speaker 2: Progressive Insurance. Castiano So the Phillies Radio network going yard 3095 02:33:44,000 --> 02:33:46,959 Speaker 2: four home runs in two days. Amazing. Progressive makes buddling 3096 02:33:47,000 --> 02:33:49,760 Speaker 2: easy and affordable. Get a multi policy discount by abouting 3097 02:33:49,760 --> 02:33:52,440 Speaker 2: your motorcycle, RV, boat, ATV whatever. You got all your 3098 02:33:52,480 --> 02:33:55,880 Speaker 2: protection at one place. Bundle and say Progressive dot Com. 3099 02:33:56,480 --> 02:33:58,400 Speaker 2: All right, we always play what are we watching for 3100 02:33:58,480 --> 02:34:02,240 Speaker 2: the weekend? Let's go through to the crew. Mighty Mark, 3101 02:34:02,400 --> 02:34:06,280 Speaker 2: I start with you, Marky, what are you watching? 3102 02:34:07,240 --> 02:34:09,480 Speaker 10: I guess I have to wait till Monday to pull 3103 02:34:09,600 --> 02:34:12,640 Speaker 10: for the Phillies. But in the meantime, I guess I'll 3104 02:34:12,680 --> 02:34:14,400 Speaker 10: try to figure out what the Bears are doing if 3105 02:34:14,440 --> 02:34:17,279 Speaker 10: they sink or swam this weekend? 3106 02:34:19,320 --> 02:34:23,119 Speaker 2: Bears Vikings? You hate the Vikings as a longtime Bears. 3107 02:34:22,800 --> 02:34:26,680 Speaker 10: Fan, Well, I did like Alan Page because a thousand 3108 02:34:26,800 --> 02:34:30,039 Speaker 10: years ago, during the off season of football, he used 3109 02:34:30,040 --> 02:34:33,080 Speaker 10: to be a lawyer. So there's that trivia above. 3110 02:34:33,200 --> 02:34:37,520 Speaker 2: Oh look at that and the vikings and you probably 3111 02:34:37,560 --> 02:34:42,200 Speaker 2: knew reference the which one the Godfather to referenced that? 3112 02:34:42,560 --> 02:34:45,119 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was watching USC Notre Dame. 3113 02:34:45,240 --> 02:34:47,199 Speaker 10: I didn't know the game, but I remember the reference. 3114 02:34:47,320 --> 02:34:52,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's impressive. Shay, what are you watching, my man? 3115 02:34:53,120 --> 02:34:57,040 Speaker 7: I'm just excited to see Miles Garrett absolutely demolish Rock 3116 02:34:57,120 --> 02:34:58,960 Speaker 7: Party and give that man a rude awakening. 3117 02:35:03,200 --> 02:35:08,920 Speaker 2: That guy's not mister fitz. Wow. 3118 02:35:08,959 --> 02:35:11,440 Speaker 1: Wow, you feel good about that? Shit? You feel good 3119 02:35:11,440 --> 02:35:11,720 Speaker 1: about that? 3120 02:35:12,160 --> 02:35:13,880 Speaker 2: I'm way too confident. You kidding me? 3121 02:35:15,240 --> 02:35:17,840 Speaker 7: Wow, I'm on Twitter right now, just putting up the. 3122 02:35:17,840 --> 02:35:20,520 Speaker 3: Score sixteen thirteen US. 3123 02:35:21,840 --> 02:35:23,760 Speaker 2: Wow. You shock the work. 3124 02:35:23,840 --> 02:35:25,040 Speaker 3: Come on, it's not a shock. 3125 02:35:25,160 --> 02:35:30,879 Speaker 2: Best of the world to shot Watson. That's a shock 3126 02:35:31,000 --> 02:35:31,680 Speaker 2: the world. Peace. 3127 02:35:32,360 --> 02:35:35,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a shock the world. Peace. I'm I 3128 02:35:35,640 --> 02:35:38,040 Speaker 1: won't text you after Cleveland loses by double digits. I 3129 02:35:38,040 --> 02:35:38,600 Speaker 1: won't text you. 3130 02:35:39,280 --> 02:35:40,040 Speaker 7: I appreciate that. 3131 02:35:40,440 --> 02:35:44,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a tough that's a tough one. Hey, don't 3132 02:35:44,280 --> 02:35:49,240 Speaker 2: forget Fellows brother by discoverer. If you like using debit 3133 02:35:49,440 --> 02:35:52,960 Speaker 2: over credit, shouldn't you also get rewarded? Well, now you 3134 02:35:53,240 --> 02:35:58,080 Speaker 2: can discover cash back debit to checking account that rewards 3135 02:35:58,280 --> 02:36:02,640 Speaker 2: everyone with cash back on everyday purchases with no fees period. 3136 02:36:02,800 --> 02:36:06,080 Speaker 2: Check out eligibility terms. Discover dot com slast catch back. 3137 02:36:06,280 --> 02:36:11,480 Speaker 2: Nebbitt discovered BAC member fd I s Oh, my man, Figie, 3138 02:36:11,680 --> 02:36:14,480 Speaker 2: my man, fig were you watching this weekend? We got 3139 02:36:14,560 --> 02:36:15,640 Speaker 2: on tap for the whole weekend. 3140 02:36:15,680 --> 02:36:17,760 Speaker 3: By the way, well, outside of the well, it's all 3141 02:36:17,800 --> 02:36:20,200 Speaker 3: football all weekend. That that goes without saying, you know, 3142 02:36:20,240 --> 02:36:22,840 Speaker 3: outside of the obvious with Oregon, Washington and SC and 3143 02:36:22,879 --> 02:36:25,240 Speaker 3: Notre Dame, another sneaky going in the PAC twelve Oregon 3144 02:36:25,280 --> 02:36:26,160 Speaker 3: State and u c l A. 3145 02:36:26,640 --> 02:36:26,760 Speaker 1: Uh. 3146 02:36:26,840 --> 02:36:28,800 Speaker 3: You know, one of these teams is gonna have two losses, 3147 02:36:28,879 --> 02:36:31,000 Speaker 3: the other will still be very much alive in the 3148 02:36:31,040 --> 02:36:33,080 Speaker 3: PAC twelve championship, right, So that's gonna be a good 3149 02:36:33,120 --> 02:36:34,760 Speaker 3: one tonight. I believe that game is on Fox as 3150 02:36:34,760 --> 02:36:35,920 Speaker 3: a matter of fact, so check out. 3151 02:36:36,040 --> 02:36:40,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that is a It's amazing the PAC twelve. Dude, 3152 02:36:40,920 --> 02:36:43,960 Speaker 2: all these years we've been we've been together, and the 3153 02:36:44,160 --> 02:36:48,160 Speaker 2: PAC twelve was you know, now it's the greatest ever 3154 02:36:48,560 --> 02:36:54,080 Speaker 2: and it's dying at some at something that it really is. Fitzie, 3155 02:36:54,600 --> 02:36:56,520 Speaker 2: what do you got this weekend, and I also need 3156 02:36:56,560 --> 02:36:57,840 Speaker 2: an update on the Horn and the house. 3157 02:36:58,320 --> 02:37:00,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, so here's the thing, you know, I want to 3158 02:37:00,320 --> 02:37:02,280 Speaker 1: get clever here. I usually try to give everybody like 3159 02:37:02,440 --> 02:37:04,879 Speaker 1: something that's not predictable, but let's be real. I think 3160 02:37:04,920 --> 02:37:07,240 Speaker 1: Oregon Washington is the most important game we've seen so 3161 02:37:07,360 --> 02:37:09,800 Speaker 1: far this year in the college football season, so it's 3162 02:37:09,959 --> 02:37:12,880 Speaker 1: must watch. And then I usually try not to just 3163 02:37:12,959 --> 02:37:15,000 Speaker 1: go straight homeer on this, but y'all, I can't. Like. 3164 02:37:15,520 --> 02:37:18,199 Speaker 1: It is rare that I feel confident on a Saturday 3165 02:37:18,480 --> 02:37:21,520 Speaker 1: about my beloved Raiders on a Sunday. I feel confident 3166 02:37:21,600 --> 02:37:24,480 Speaker 1: today about the Raiders taking on the Patriots tomorrow. Given 3167 02:37:24,520 --> 02:37:26,680 Speaker 1: how decimated they are and given how Mac Jones has look, 3168 02:37:27,240 --> 02:37:29,280 Speaker 1: I think the Raiders is gonna win that game pretty handily. 3169 02:37:29,320 --> 02:37:31,520 Speaker 1: And then guess what waking up on Monday. I'm not 3170 02:37:31,600 --> 02:37:33,680 Speaker 1: saying the Raiders are any good, but I got a 3171 02:37:33,760 --> 02:37:36,160 Speaker 1: real shot at waking up on Monday with the Raiders 3172 02:37:36,240 --> 02:37:38,120 Speaker 1: being a five hundred ball club three and three. Like, 3173 02:37:38,680 --> 02:37:40,320 Speaker 1: at some point you gotta look at it and say, hey, 3174 02:37:40,560 --> 02:37:42,520 Speaker 1: if my team's gonna suck anyway, I might as well 3175 02:37:42,560 --> 02:37:45,560 Speaker 1: get to watch some wins. I am excited for Sunday, 3176 02:37:45,600 --> 02:37:47,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit down in the afternoon. I'm just gonna 3177 02:37:47,800 --> 02:37:50,040 Speaker 1: shut off the noise. In the late afternoon game, I'm 3178 02:37:50,080 --> 02:37:52,480 Speaker 1: gonna watch two bad football teams, and I'm gonna stay 3179 02:37:52,480 --> 02:37:54,600 Speaker 1: off social media because while everybody else is gonna say 3180 02:37:54,640 --> 02:37:56,960 Speaker 1: this stinks, I don't care. I don't care. If this 3181 02:37:57,080 --> 02:37:59,360 Speaker 1: game's won three to two. The Raiders are gonna win 3182 02:37:59,400 --> 02:38:01,280 Speaker 1: this football game, and that puts them at five hundred 3183 02:38:01,400 --> 02:38:03,200 Speaker 1: and then I can be a glorious you know what 3184 02:38:03,360 --> 02:38:05,120 Speaker 1: for the next week as we get ready for the 3185 02:38:05,200 --> 02:38:07,760 Speaker 1: next game against the like the Raiders have a real 3186 02:38:07,800 --> 02:38:10,160 Speaker 1: shot at being four and three after they beat Chicago. 3187 02:38:10,240 --> 02:38:12,720 Speaker 1: After this game, let's go. I'm just getting ahead of myself. 3188 02:38:12,760 --> 02:38:12,880 Speaker 2: Now. 3189 02:38:14,040 --> 02:38:17,600 Speaker 3: Wow, I do love the confidence. Yeah, but man, this 3190 02:38:17,720 --> 02:38:21,040 Speaker 3: screams Raider loss all over it doesn't it. No, no, no, 3191 02:38:21,200 --> 02:38:23,880 Speaker 3: it does not scream. You are You're you're a Raider fan. 3192 02:38:24,000 --> 02:38:24,920 Speaker 3: You know how these things go. 3193 02:38:25,520 --> 02:38:27,879 Speaker 1: I am a realistic Raader. I'm usually pretty right about 3194 02:38:27,879 --> 02:38:29,320 Speaker 1: these things. I feel good about it. I said it 3195 02:38:29,400 --> 02:38:31,119 Speaker 1: was gonna be the worst be done in a decade 3196 02:38:31,160 --> 02:38:33,480 Speaker 1: when they took on the Bills. It wasn't that bad, 3197 02:38:33,520 --> 02:38:33,800 Speaker 1: but it was. 3198 02:38:33,879 --> 02:38:34,960 Speaker 3: It was bad like. 3199 02:38:35,080 --> 02:38:37,800 Speaker 1: Look, I feel so like I'm just giving context here, 3200 02:38:38,040 --> 02:38:41,080 Speaker 1: I'm sneaky confident. Here, sneaky confident. It's sad. 3201 02:38:41,080 --> 02:38:43,560 Speaker 3: I's bet my house on the Raiders this week. 3202 02:38:43,600 --> 02:38:45,480 Speaker 1: Get done, all right, don't forget. 3203 02:38:45,640 --> 02:38:49,080 Speaker 3: I'm moving in with you if this doesn't work out there, okay, perfect, 3204 02:38:49,320 --> 02:38:51,240 Speaker 3: perfect movie house exactly. 3205 02:38:52,440 --> 02:38:53,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't have to earn your keep, though, I'm 3206 02:38:53,760 --> 02:38:55,880 Speaker 1: gonna eat you out with the animatronic scaring people. That's 3207 02:38:55,920 --> 02:38:56,520 Speaker 1: what we do right now. 3208 02:38:56,600 --> 02:38:57,360 Speaker 3: It sounds like fun to me. 3209 02:38:57,920 --> 02:39:01,600 Speaker 2: How's how's the big good flow going right to the thirteenth? 3210 02:39:01,640 --> 02:39:03,800 Speaker 1: Last night it was wild, it was chaotic, cousin, I 3211 02:39:04,000 --> 02:39:04,840 Speaker 1: love it. I love it. 3212 02:39:04,879 --> 02:39:08,199 Speaker 2: All right, we're too soon. We love you guys. Thanks 3213 02:39:08,240 --> 02:39:11,240 Speaker 2: for hanging with us, fellas. We'll see you next Saturday.