Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
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Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
Speaker 1: scripted as well. It does bother me that we even
Speaker 1: have to talk about this, but it also goes to
Speaker 1: show you the dangerous side of social media. So ay,
Speaker 1: and when I say this, I'm not dissing the outlet
Speaker 1: or dissing this term, because that's not what it's about.
Speaker 2: But this blog posted an AI flow.
Speaker 1: Stating that Niani Leaks was coming back to season eighteen
Speaker 1: of the Real Housewives of Atlanta and that.
Speaker 2: Shemiah was out. So what I saw right, So when
Speaker 2: I saw this, not sure what the three of you did.
Speaker 1: I kept scrolling to look at what my algorithm shows me,
Speaker 1: which is anyway. So then I'm like, this is nothing right,
Speaker 1: this is nothing true story. A few reality stars texted
Speaker 1: me and said, is this true?
Speaker 2: And my response was you got to be shitty.
Speaker 1: Like you believe this, And they're like, well, you know
Speaker 1: people are saying it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, there's no credible source.
Speaker 1: And then it literally became a news today to the
Speaker 1: point where Andy Cohen had to go on his radio
Speaker 1: show and say that he is pretty much fine with
Speaker 1: the current cat as of season eighteen and that there
Speaker 1: are no changes to the current cast of season eighteen.
Speaker 1: TMZ reported that Nini Leeds did not receive a contract.
Speaker 1: I did not think this was going to spread. No
Speaker 1: pun intended to Dustin's Weekend, but I had no idea
Speaker 1: this is going to spread, but instead it became like
Speaker 1: big news.
Speaker 2: But it made me.
Speaker 1: Scared about that you can literally put out anything anything,
Speaker 1: no matter no matter the source, but outlet how many.
Speaker 2: Followers you have and it will create a story.
Speaker 1: Claudia Jordan And when you first saw this story that
Speaker 1: Nini Leagues was replaced in Shmia, did you buy this?
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 4: They do this every year, and part of it is
Speaker 4: wishful thinking from a lot of people that would love
Speaker 4: to see Ni back on the show. That's understandable. But
Speaker 4: this season, compared to last season, was so much more
Speaker 4: together and fun and off the chain and better. They'd
Speaker 4: be a damnful to stop this momentum. They need to
Speaker 4: keep it exactly as it is, don't add, don't subtract
Speaker 4: anybody from the show, and let anybody come back next
Speaker 4: season and see what it is. We just finally getting
Speaker 4: into her, getting comfortable. They're they're you know, getting up
Speaker 4: from out from up under portion's shadow.
Speaker 3: She's become her own housewife.
Speaker 4: There's now beefs between the ladies that they had their
Speaker 4: own issues with each other, some of them kind of
Speaker 4: quite swiftly and kind of fake swept them on the
Speaker 4: rug onder the carpet, and we kind of want to
Speaker 4: see a little bit more of that next season. This
Speaker 4: story there's now there's things that uh, storylines that follow now.
Speaker 4: I think I think it'd be crazy to shake that
Speaker 4: up again. And let's let this cook for a little while,
Speaker 4: let it marinate, let it cook, let it cook.
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, you know I'm old, so I'll come from
Speaker 5: the school in the days of the Sun and and
Speaker 5: the nationally inquirer and shit, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: All the stuff we.
Speaker 5: Knew was bullshit, and we we knew that we could
Speaker 5: separate that from actual, credible, legitimate media outlets that we
Speaker 5: could trust, right, But with the influx of the inner
Speaker 5: and all the goddamn misinformation. It's I think it's funny
Speaker 5: that I'm actually grateful that we can use this as
Speaker 5: an example to show people the importance right of discernment
Speaker 5: and of fact checking information, right, because this can actually
Speaker 5: bleed over into some very real areas of our life
Speaker 5: when it comes to information and misinformation and the difference
Speaker 5: between the two.
Speaker 6: So just use this as a lesson.
Speaker 5: As much as we all would love to see Nieny
Speaker 5: leaks back on The goddamn Housewives, it ain't happening next season, okay,
Speaker 5: And we know that we have a flat out confirmation
Speaker 5: from Andy Cohen on our hands. Let's let it go,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, And let's just leave it there.
Speaker 5: I think that it's just something that people really want.
Speaker 5: But I don't want to be dumb and gullible, you.
Speaker 6: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So because of that, my ego don't want me to
Speaker 5: be that way. So when I read certain shit, I
Speaker 5: look at where it's coming from, cross reference that I
Speaker 5: fact checking, and shit.
Speaker 6: I don't want to see some shit like that and
Speaker 6: oh a needy come back. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I don't want to be like that, so I encourage
Speaker 6: others to do the same.
Speaker 2: Blue.
Speaker 7: I agree with everything being said. I just think it's
Speaker 7: so interesting how you choose my words unintelligent. The audience
Speaker 7: is slowly becoming look at that, look at that mean
Speaker 7: learning tactic. I don't even think it's misinformation. I think
Speaker 7: it's disinformation for those Disinformation is intentionally telling a lie.
Speaker 7: Misinformation means I made a mistake. I didn't check it.
Speaker 7: Disinformation means I'm a harbinger of chaos, was putting out
Speaker 7: bullshit to create more noise. And I think the reality
Speaker 7: TV disinformation is actually the name of the game for
Speaker 7: some reason that Andy's having the same cast, because even
Speaker 7: angry rage bait engagement is still engagement, right, I tell
Speaker 7: this show all the time. I think I was talking
Speaker 7: to you calls. I said. Whenever I'm doing like a
Speaker 7: Love Island review or Married at First Sight review, people
Speaker 7: get mad at me. My income doubles like people getting
Speaker 7: pissed at me literally puts to me another tax bracket.
Speaker 7: And I hate that, by the way, I mean I like,
Speaker 7: but I hate that that's the way that it's done,
Speaker 7: because if you don't have integrity, what does that do
Speaker 7: to your brain chemistry that you know that if you
Speaker 7: get people mad, even if it's disinformation and a flat
Speaker 7: out lie, you could pay your rent next week. So
Speaker 7: I think we're entering into a sinister time where it's
Speaker 7: no longer people are just stupid and trying to not
Speaker 7: fact check because it's you know, a lot. I don't
Speaker 7: care who tell it. I think folks are intentionally creating
Speaker 7: rage bait because a life pays the bills.
Speaker 6: And that is yeah, somebody needs to be I agree.
Speaker 4: And no one ever apolgiz fake information. They don't ever say,
Speaker 4: you know, they never want to like clean it up,
Speaker 4: and if they do post uh when they have to,
Speaker 4: like you know, fast up that they mess up. Small attraction, Yes,
Speaker 4: thank you, No sleep too much, Houka and lemon pepper
Speaker 4: wings this weekend, I was very ghetto. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: retraction that word. Uh, it's always so small. I'm like,
Speaker 4: you know, it's really really small. They don't really make
Speaker 4: a big deal out of it. They don't the same
Speaker 4: blog as I've run with it. They never say my bad,
Speaker 4: and that happens time and time again, we've all probably
Speaker 4: been victims of that. They will run their mouth about
Speaker 4: something and then when you clear it up with proof
Speaker 4: and evidence, this is quiet in the creek, okay, and
Speaker 4: no one's saying nothing about nothing.
Speaker 3: No one want to even say, oh my bad nothing.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, And let's be clear, when or if
Speaker 1: Lenithia Monique Johnston Leaks is returning to the Real Housewives
Speaker 1: of Atlanta, it will not be an AI generated post
Speaker 1: that reveals that. Okay, it will be a big deal
Speaker 1: that will be embargoed until something else happens. And in
Speaker 1: regards to Shamia, look love Shamia or hate her when
Speaker 1: the concert season eighteen, to meya.
Speaker 2: Is not going anywhere.
Speaker 1: So I'm not sure if you guys are trying to
Speaker 1: start this campaign to get rid of her. I'm not
Speaker 1: here to say anything else outside of what they have said.
Speaker 2: But all I will say is what Andy said.
Speaker 1: Is what he said, Okay, So you know it also
Speaker 1: goes to show you and it's what you guys are saying.
Speaker 2: I'm happy with this cast.
Speaker 1: I'm happy with that, and I do feel like I
Speaker 1: do feel like if you guys really look.
Speaker 2: At what's about to happen season eighteen.
Speaker 1: We all should be celebrating that everyone is coming back like.
Speaker 2: That's a big deal. It hasn't happened.
Speaker 1: I can't tell you the last season where everybody came
Speaker 1: back and nobody got let go demoted. Everybody's coming back
Speaker 1: and everybody deserves to come back. And I'm looking forward
Speaker 1: to what I'm seeing. And once again, if you did
Speaker 1: not hear A Month and a Live, it is not
Speaker 1: true because oh okay, because yeah, Month and I Live
Speaker 1: is a credible source. We are the TMZ of scripted television.
Speaker 1: You haven't heard it here first. We will always eat
Speaker 1: the sores, just like Claudia did when she revealed Pinky
Speaker 1: was pregnant.
Speaker 7: So Claudia, you can tell we don't rehearse. I'll never
Speaker 7: be ready. Okay.
Speaker 1: Oh, Laudia Jordan is mendicated once again because the Real Housewives.
Speaker 1: So thank you, Blue. I'm loving here too, babe.
Speaker 7: So the horse disappeared to the shrubs, so.
Speaker 1: Claudia, Barbara Walters, Diane Swayer, Opra Gramm for Landa Watts, Jordan's.
Speaker 2: She revealed exclusively on Month and Alive.
Speaker 1: Thank you Claudia for bringing it home that somebody was pregnant.
Speaker 2: On Atlanta Housewives.
Speaker 1: The first look of the reunion that's airing this they
Speaker 1: drop it is not revealed that Pinky coll is pregnant
Speaker 1: with her fourth baby. Claudia, what do you have to
Speaker 1: say about that news besides.
Speaker 2: Congratulations?
Speaker 4: I already said what I needed to say, and bitch
Speaker 4: is you're welcome. And for the record, I did not
Speaker 4: say Pinky was pregnant. I said someone on the show
Speaker 4: says that they are on the show. There's a big
Speaker 4: difference between me blowing up the spot and saying who
Speaker 4: if I said what I knew from the reunion team.
Speaker 4: But you know, there's levels to intelligence and understanding and
Speaker 4: common sense and I get it.
Speaker 3: So again, when I Frank Graham was my editor.
Speaker 4: At the Providence American newspaper back in nineteen ninety five,
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety.
Speaker 7: Six, Resident Frank Graham.
Speaker 4: And he told me if we can't if we can't
Speaker 4: prove it, we can't print it. And that has been
Speaker 4: something that is my journalistic integrity have stayed.
Speaker 2: A great slogan, Claudia, if you can't prove it, you
Speaker 2: can't print it.
Speaker 4: I mean, I just if y'all don't want me to
Speaker 4: continue to give you all the truth. This level, I
Speaker 4: can make my life way easier. But I serve you,
Speaker 4: the people, the viewers, the person out there that just
Speaker 4: wants to, you know, escape their real life and come
Speaker 4: here get teached to everybody else's business. But when I
Speaker 4: say it, it's a problem, I don't have to say
Speaker 4: anything else.
Speaker 7: If you can't prove it, you can print it on.
Speaker 3: I would like to challenge the audience. I would like
Speaker 3: to challenge the audience to please name one time that
Speaker 3: I was wrong or I was lying.
Speaker 4: I will drink way awful, awfully awful at.
Speaker 2: The rage. Thoughts are gagging with the year ninety.
Speaker 7: Pull out the nineteen hundreds for this, I said, not
Speaker 7: the horse and buggy.
Speaker 8: Now, listen, back in the day, we had to use
Speaker 8: white out when we would type up on a type
Speaker 8: run right out. I was one of the only female
Speaker 8: journalists at the million Man March in nineteen ninety five
Speaker 8: at our nation's capital, Brothers for days.
Speaker 3: Yes, it was amazing, and.
Speaker 4: Yes we used have to use water and type and
Speaker 4: do our research with no Internet back.
Speaker 5: Then, paper roll maps, yeah, rep quest, oh my god, quest.
Speaker 6: Absolutely drunk.
Speaker 3: I'm not drunk. I was drunk last night though, but
Speaker 3: I ain't drunk today.
Speaker 7: No lawyas good.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 1: So Dustin and Blue, What do you guys think about
Speaker 1: Gankkey being pregnant?
Speaker 2: And what were your thoughts on the reunion trailer?
Speaker 6: Go ahead, boom I the.
Speaker 7: Reunion trailer makes me excited for next season because it
Speaker 7: feels like, like I said for the penn ultimate episode, k
Speaker 7: Michelle said, I've arrived, like she finally came off of
Speaker 7: being thought out right the came a show. I've seen
Speaker 7: the the last two episodes and the Cay Michelle that
Speaker 7: I saw in the preview. I'm excited for next season.
Speaker 7: Andy is giddy. He is in Messy Bitch Heaven. It
Speaker 7: is like he's squealing on the couch like I just
Speaker 7: and also too because somebody refreshed my memory. Why is
Speaker 7: it that Michelle is so mad at Drew still? I
Speaker 7: don't understand why. Like every year, I'm confused about why
Speaker 7: people are so mad at Drew, Like, explain to me,
Speaker 7: like I'm five so many people at now and Drew's
Speaker 7: the only person that she's still so angry. I'm just
Speaker 7: so Claudia, do you know you have the tea? You're
Speaker 7: the man on the street. Why is k Michelle still
Speaker 7: so angry at Drew.
Speaker 4: Specifically because they've all squashed their beasts with Portia. Uh huh,
Speaker 4: and and you gotta have someone to be mad at,
Speaker 4: and Drew is the easy target.
Speaker 3: Like easy target.
Speaker 4: It's like you know when you see a herd of
Speaker 4: antelope crossing a river and there's a alligator right, an
Speaker 4: alligator that's like, oh my god, I'm hungry. I haven't
Speaker 4: eat in two weeks. They're gonna go for the one
Speaker 4: that's lagging behind. That everyone's just kind of thinks is
Speaker 4: a week link and they're not always the weekly. They
Speaker 4: go after those those ankles and those Achilles hendons. They
Speaker 4: think that Drew is the slow running antelope.
Speaker 3: She's not.
Speaker 6: She's not.
Speaker 4: She's not stop, miss not gendering, miss miss speaking, she's.
Speaker 3: Miss speaking her. She's not an.
Speaker 4: Antelope that's slow, and you're gonna get her in the
Speaker 4: creek once again, Clive the creek leave her.
Speaker 3: Through a low Yeah, so yo.
Speaker 4: They just think that, I think because like it don't
Speaker 4: make sense, like cameras show and Drew will be doing
Speaker 4: to see what they'll say, I love you, I love
Speaker 4: your girl, And then five minutes later they read someone
Speaker 4: it's like a mean ass comment or in.
Speaker 3: A green spin like wait, what happened? I don't get it.
Speaker 1: I'll say this in my in my opinion, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: because we'll get to this later as we recap the finale.
Speaker 2: So I'll just start by saying this and we'll finish
Speaker 2: it later. I think.
Speaker 1: I think drews a Door and Kay Michelle have both decided.
Speaker 2: We like beeping with each other. I think, to me,
Speaker 2: to me, and I'll get to this later.
Speaker 1: Drew kind of started it, so I've made up my
Speaker 1: mind that they are sort of our Kenya Portia. There's
Speaker 1: sort of our remember Jazzy and Potomac and Okay, just
Speaker 1: two women.
Speaker 5: We'll get to it if we go into it. We're
Speaker 5: gonna do what we're gonna do, because I definitely I'm
Speaker 5: gonna get you for that. When we talk about the show,
Speaker 5: did that starting? We can't start no story in the middle. Well,
Speaker 5: go ahead, go ahead, he did, We'll there went out there.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I like, I love Yeah, let's go and the worst.
Speaker 1: In the words of Claudia Jordan's Blue I'm gonna land
Speaker 1: the plane in a second.
Speaker 2: I love your lamp plans. But we'll get to that.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that, Okay, Like Karen, well, well, Karen, honey,
Speaker 1: they were actually friends, that's why they're different.
Speaker 2: But talk about the junior trailer.
Speaker 1: I will say this, I will say this and me
Speaker 1: and that's will get into it later. I will say this, Brava,
Speaker 1: brava to the season seventeen girls.
Speaker 2: You ladies exemplified.
Speaker 1: All I mean all eight plus Cynthia right, it's it was,
Speaker 1: it was. I was proud watching that trailer because for me,
Speaker 1: it was the first time in a long time that
Speaker 1: I felt everybody clocked in and everybody's meant to be there.
Speaker 1: And and that's why it disturbed that you guys, not
Speaker 1: not you guys.
Speaker 10: That that that that that blog took a momentum of
Speaker 10: us concentrating on the excellence that these ladies brought on
Speaker 10: that reunion and try to make casting changes and what
Speaker 10: I do want you guys.
Speaker 2: To understand and listen.
Speaker 1: I I will say this to the producers of Season
Speaker 1: eighteen is you, which was.
Speaker 2: The great thing.
Speaker 1: By the way, you guys have a big challenge in
Speaker 1: a great way because you get to be able to
Speaker 1: take these different stories and and and do some amazing
Speaker 1: television with it. I think there's so much pressure now
Speaker 1: if I'm if I'm speaking honestly.
Speaker 2: For the girls, because you guys have now.
Speaker 1: Cultivated up a relationship, and I think now the work
Speaker 1: is done to see like how can we appear next
Speaker 1: season in our authentic selves with these new relationships.
Speaker 2: So I'm I have no note for that re union.
Speaker 6: I agree.
Speaker 5: I think that, Like I said, the reunion trailer made
Speaker 5: me excited to watch all three parts.
Speaker 6: It didn't seem like there were going.
Speaker 5: To be any like lulls or valleys in it. It
Speaker 5: didn't seem like there was gonna be a lot of
Speaker 5: filler and fluff. You can always tell based on the
Speaker 5: trailer and that reunion everybody was quote unquote activated and
Speaker 5: speaking up and offering opinions and continuing the conversation moving forward.
Speaker 6: So I'm excited. It looked good.
Speaker 5: Portie and Drew both made comments about k Michelle that
Speaker 5: were nasty after cay Michelle made comings, so were nasty
Speaker 5: about them. So listen, once the gloves are off, that
Speaker 5: means we're gonna get some good ass television. And the
Speaker 5: gloves were definitely often what we saw. So I'm excited
Speaker 5: and everybody looked nice too.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Look at her face. Hit on a gray.
Speaker 6: I thought they all looked pretty well.
Speaker 3: Mean you didn't like everything? What would you think.
Speaker 7: We like aism button? I look, man, choices were made
Speaker 7: mm hmm, and it looked like the uh the stuff
Speaker 7: that didn't use for wicked. For some of the outfits,
Speaker 7: it was it was given. It was, it was given
Speaker 7: yellow a nick road. It was hit or miss. There
Speaker 7: was hits and ne were misses. So I cannot tell
Speaker 7: a lie, but shout out to all the hits and
Speaker 7: the rest of y'all know some of them looked crazy.
Speaker 7: I'm sorry. I'm about break the fourth wall, I said,
Speaker 7: calls a picture like cars? What the is this?
Speaker 3: And so I just this is the face one were bad?
Speaker 3: Tell me I can say.
Speaker 7: I just I was you have a good poker face.
Speaker 7: I was waiting for you to blue.
Speaker 3: I am dragged by my Come on now, who didn't
Speaker 3: look good?
Speaker 7: Just one of the couches was touched by an angel.
Speaker 3: I didn't know what it's one, okay, like pregnancy, it's
Speaker 3: just an outfit.
Speaker 7: That's fashion show with no fashions. How dreadful. I was
Speaker 7: visually insulted by Okay, okay.
Speaker 1: Can you tell us are you comfortable telling us at
Speaker 1: least what your favorite look was and what you're not
Speaker 1: so favorite look was, only if you're comfortable.
Speaker 7: I'm comfortable saying that green is a pretty color.
Speaker 6: M hm.
Speaker 7: Okay, So the girls in green, I do remember saying, oh,
Speaker 7: that's a nice shit of green against black skin. So
Speaker 7: the girls in green looked good. I'm just gonna say this,
Speaker 7: I think every woman on the show is pretty. I
Speaker 7: actually think every woman on the show is try I
Speaker 7: think some of them need to fire their makeup artists.
Speaker 7: Because there was a drag hand. It was given drag
Speaker 7: race more than Reunion of Housewives, and so the drag
Speaker 7: hand was a little bit heavy with some of the girls.
Speaker 7: And as a girl who I'm a face queen. So
Speaker 7: when you're out for this costume and you're and you're
Speaker 7: blushed to your the back of your neck, I'm gonna
Speaker 7: notice that.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say that's not just in the reunion, because
Speaker 4: there was a few episodes where faces were a totally
Speaker 4: differentult than the neck.
Speaker 3: And if I say one of the names, y'all gonna
Speaker 3: say I'm hating.
Speaker 4: But y'all can just like read between the lines, and
Speaker 4: I'm not talking about Porsche.
Speaker 3: She looked good.
Speaker 4: There's someone that is a repeat offender, like the last
Speaker 4: three or four weeks where this and this is you
Speaker 4: can go with this that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, with that.
Speaker 4: I wish to get with this and not getting with that.
Speaker 4: All this mixed matching is not where it's at the
Speaker 4: New York Kransit line.
Speaker 7: Have to have me out hate being on want time
Speaker 7: the truth. I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna start leaving clues because I don't like the
Speaker 4: blunt and sometimes so.
Speaker 3: Y'all listen, go back at the last one.
Speaker 4: It was like a it was almost like maybe the
Speaker 4: makeup was from two different makeup bags, like maybe one
Speaker 4: was for like the day makeup and then one from
Speaker 4: the cadaver bag.
Speaker 7: Somebody didn't pay the invoice, Claudia, And that's how passive
Speaker 7: aggressive makeup artists do you You don't pay the invoice
Speaker 7: and she starts getting real sick around the cheeks.
Speaker 4: That was on the episode. I don't know what I
Speaker 4: gotta go in the reunion, so.
Speaker 3: But I was.
Speaker 2: I appreciate the ladies for the candid commentary. Dathin. I
Speaker 2: cannot talk about looks when it comes to we talk.
Speaker 3: About making the makeup.
Speaker 7: Of God, but the makeup.
Speaker 1: Freedom Beat my face for the Bell Collective, for Union,
Speaker 1: and I was happy with his work. Yes, Freedom on
Speaker 1: the Beat, Yes Freedom or for Juice Door. I will
Speaker 1: say this, I'm gonna move on to Bell Collective, Juice
Speaker 1: of Dora.
Speaker 2: The way you.
Speaker 1: Look at the finale at Ky Michelle's listening party, keep
Speaker 1: that hair, makeup squad, whatever you have never looked bad.
Speaker 2: You're already a bad a bad ship you are.
Speaker 1: I think druse A Door is one of the most
Speaker 1: beautiful women of Bravos.
Speaker 7: She's always been very pretty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, drews Doors face in person is gorgeous. It's nothing
Speaker 1: to be played with. So the fact that your team drew,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was Freedom of the Beat.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Child.
Speaker 2: All I can say to you is you at the
Speaker 2: fucking Caym Michelle listening party.
Speaker 6: Gorgeous.
Speaker 2: You almost turned me straight. You look that's good. Oh
Speaker 2: and y'all don't have a thing for Portia. I'm just saying, Drew, really.
Speaker 7: We haven't noticed his hearts look pretty falling and getting
Speaker 7: back up Drew, So it's aerodynamic. Whatever they did it
Speaker 7: down he came back up and you were still snatched anyways.
Speaker 2: Uh well, according to fans, I'm a flip flopper, but.
Speaker 3: I love.
Speaker 7: When it comes to high school of yours.
Speaker 3: A little bit.
Speaker 2: The only woman that could top me is thy Young
Speaker 2: and I believe it at that.
Speaker 3: Oh lord, well not the first.
Speaker 2: Oh we'll get to this latter sway, maybe number two.
Speaker 2: This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.
Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show. Anyway. Let's the theaster
Speaker 2: finale of the Real Husmas of Atlanta.
Speaker 1: So the episode kicked off with Kym, Michelle, Pinky and Shamiya.
Speaker 1: They well, Pinky and Shamia with her daughters. They're talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, catching up those things. In this scene, Pinky
Speaker 1: did say that she does miss the light that Shamiya
Speaker 1: has and she misses Shamia having fun, just based on
Speaker 1: what happened in Scotland, based on what happened in the
Speaker 1: last episode.
Speaker 2: As Shamiya's Halloween party when she got into with Angela
Speaker 2: starting with you Blue, do you think that the spark that.
Speaker 1: Shamia had starting this season did it dissipate towards the
Speaker 1: end and it's Pinky picking up or something.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm gonna be honest even though we well, I
Speaker 7: won't be I want to speak French. I know that
Speaker 7: when the girls are having a moment a good moment,
Speaker 7: I clap. And when I think she is laying my
Speaker 7: said lame. I miss happy Shemiah, like I really do
Speaker 7: miss when Samiyah was giddy and frolicking and being fabulous
Speaker 7: and doing a whole stuff and having on running jokes
Speaker 7: like I missed that Samiyah. I love when came a
Speaker 7: show last episode said that I can see it's being dimmed.
Speaker 7: Pinky's picking up on it as well. I actually hope
Speaker 7: that what we're seeing on camera with the girls pointing
Speaker 7: that out, that they're being just if not more loving
Speaker 7: and compassionate and honest with her behind the scenes, because
Speaker 7: I want the old Shemiah back when we start next season.
Speaker 7: I really, really really do. The show is more fun
Speaker 7: when Shamia is having fun. I know ratings don't care
Speaker 7: if you're having fun, because even if they're beating you up,
Speaker 7: people are gonna hate watch. But I just as a viewer,
Speaker 7: actually enjoyed the show more when Shamia is having a
Speaker 7: good time. And even at that scene towards the end
Speaker 7: when they were talking about Andrew was saying, Shami, are
Speaker 7: you in Portia, Africa? And Porta's like, I'm good exactly
Speaker 7: where I am. I hope Shemiah mixed peace with that.
Speaker 7: I hope she just mixed peace with it and pivots.
Speaker 7: That's what I'm rooting for. So yeah, I think the
Speaker 7: girls were onto something, and I think I'm seeing a
Speaker 7: glimmer of her coming back out. I almost feel like,
Speaker 7: and I hate to say this, if there's a new
Speaker 7: person or a new tension that gets her attention off
Speaker 7: of Porsche, I think there's a likeness to anybody but
Speaker 7: Porscha fissing her off, that will bring back the old
Speaker 7: fun Shamir that we saw. It's like, let's say, you know,
Speaker 7: Pinky step on her toe something. I don't even care. This,
Speaker 7: the horse shot on her front porch, I don't care something, right.
Speaker 7: I think as long as it's not Porscha, we'll get
Speaker 7: the old Shamia back. So I'm hoping for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I stould agree with you.
Speaker 1: I definitely think por Shamiya, well we fell in love
Speaker 1: last season when she sort of was this honestly like
Speaker 1: last season, Shemia, at least in the first episode, right, guys,
Speaker 1: she was like the anchor, like she was the one
Speaker 1: that she was the one that literally told us like
Speaker 1: I'm friends with this person, that these preople are friends here.
Speaker 1: So Shamia was the anchor last season, at least in
Speaker 1: the beginning, and she did have this lightness and the
Speaker 1: Shamia that I know in real life.
Speaker 2: Samia is a fun woman.
Speaker 1: When I saw her at the Hawks game before the
Speaker 1: season started, I do remember asking her.
Speaker 2: That's why I feel comfortable sharing it. It's not a secret, but.
Speaker 1: I remember asking her, like how the season, and she
Speaker 1: made a face that made me realize it was a
Speaker 1: tough one for her.
Speaker 2: And even even then.
Speaker 1: Because she wrapped the show in an air, I saw something.
Speaker 1: The light wasn't off, but it was dimming. And anybody, right, Claudia,
Speaker 1: after you film reality show, the season may be over,
Speaker 1: but you're still filming the residue from it. My hope
Speaker 1: is that she does get back to enjoying herself. I
Speaker 1: agree with you, I agree with Pinky, I agree with
Speaker 1: Kim Michelle. I think that I do believe that Shmia
Speaker 1: finally get it, gets it. I think she gets it
Speaker 1: now the same way we all and I can say
Speaker 1: this candidly, the same way we all have said, Kim
Speaker 1: and show got it like she got it.
Speaker 6: She got it, and I ain't said.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like too other.
Speaker 6: It was like I have not said that episodes.
Speaker 7: It was too good episodes.
Speaker 3: Truly, well, yeah, too many BLO episodes. She was the
Speaker 3: last too.
Speaker 7: At least at least there's an up.
Speaker 6: And I mean the first fifteen was in the toilet.
Speaker 4: Come on, friend, any job where you do good the
Speaker 4: first two days and then you have twelve days of
Speaker 4: not good and then the last two your boss will
Speaker 4: be like, I know you fucking line.
Speaker 3: But that show she has the potential.
Speaker 5: She has it in her because she did it and
Speaker 5: we've always known that, which is hints to the disappointment
Speaker 5: right with the performance.
Speaker 6: But my bad, I ain't mean to step on your girls.
Speaker 3: Are holding out hop Yeah.
Speaker 1: I should a follow Blues mandate and not spoke French
Speaker 1: and said we I should have said.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we don't.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, God forbid the aries agreement with Carlo and Blue.
Speaker 2: So listen, here's the deal, k Michelle and I will
Speaker 2: go to bat for this. I said it.
Speaker 1: And one thing about me, y'all know, I don't change
Speaker 1: I feel I have said it from the beginning. Ky
Speaker 1: Michelle was used to another show that she was on
Speaker 1: for ten plus years. It's operatedly Clauda can attest to that, right, Claudia,
Speaker 1: you Dumbo shows. It is two extremely different productions, And
Speaker 1: I think she finally got it at the end.
Speaker 2: Whether or not it was too late, I think it's
Speaker 2: it's it's here.
Speaker 1: And I do see her now reunion trailer like, that's
Speaker 1: the That's the Chemist show I met two thousand and eleven,
Speaker 1: Like I was proud of her at the reunion trailer.
Speaker 1: So when it comes to Shamia, I do though Blue,
Speaker 1: I think Shemiah today. I think today she does not
Speaker 1: want to be friends with Porsche. I think she doesn't
Speaker 1: miss Porsche. I think she's accepted the reality. And I
Speaker 1: do see a lightnings. I was watching her two weeks
Speaker 1: ago on Watch What Happens Live? Who Shamiyah was on
Speaker 1: the On her last appearance on Watch What Happens Live?
Speaker 1: She was first of all gorgeous. She looked absolutely it was.
Speaker 2: Funny, she was funny, she was laughing, she had her
Speaker 2: the spark was back in her eyes.
Speaker 1: I'm telling y'all, I think Season eighteen could be one
Speaker 1: for the books. Because Samia's back. Shamia is back, and
Speaker 1: I think she's now saying fuck these hoes.
Speaker 7: Know, I know you're right. The day that Porscha sent
Speaker 7: that message on that tweet and I said, do you
Speaker 7: think Shmiah's gonna respond, you were like, of course she is.
Speaker 7: I was like, I hope she doesn't. And I didn't
Speaker 7: see her go ape shit the way y'all warned me.
Speaker 7: That felt like growth to me, Like that felt like
Speaker 7: she the old Shamiyah when she was in the trenches
Speaker 7: of feeling victimized. It would have been a back and forth,
Speaker 7: the whole melee nasty, you go lo, I go to hell.
Speaker 7: The fact that she had that restraint, that's what I've
Speaker 7: been wishing for this entire time, the little bit of
Speaker 7: the restraint that Pusha shown previously. I want Shmia to
Speaker 7: have it so that they're they're equals. Like it's not
Speaker 7: one person deregulated and the other person's strategic. I want
Speaker 7: two strategic girls who are now veterans, who have learned
Speaker 7: their hard knocks and who are here to play ball
Speaker 7: and catch a check. That's what I want to see next.
Speaker 3: Season from them.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so.
Speaker 5: I think that Shemiyah is getting a bad rap from everybody, right,
Speaker 5: because who the fuck? And I love Pinky, love Pinky,
Speaker 5: love her family, love her on a personal level, right,
Speaker 5: But as far as the show, who in the hell
Speaker 5: is Pinky to tell Shemiah that her light is damned?
Speaker 5: If I was Shemia, even though they're right it has damned,
Speaker 5: I would have cussed their ass out for saying some
Speaker 5: shit like that to me. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 5: what the fuck you mean?
Speaker 6: Yo?
Speaker 5: You better worry about jo Bob. You know what I'm
Speaker 5: saying stuff worrying about mine? So and that's the level
Speaker 5: of not giving a fuck. I want Shemiah to unlock, right.
Speaker 5: I think she's under what far more intense scrutiny than
Speaker 5: everybody else. I think everybody is monitoring Shemiah's behavior and
Speaker 5: what she does and doesn't do in a way that
Speaker 5: they're not monitoring. And take Porscha out of this, because
Speaker 5: I'm not talking about I'm not looking at Shemiah's experience
Speaker 5: versus Porscha's, I mean versus the rest of the cast.
Speaker 5: I think Shemia is getting a hard time right now,
Speaker 5: and I'll just leave it there. So I like the
Speaker 5: fact that she's speaking up for herself. I like the
Speaker 5: fact that next year, next season, like I believe, I
Speaker 5: agree with you, Carlos, season eighteen, we're gonna get something
Speaker 5: good because now these ladies are unlocking a level of
Speaker 5: transparency and of honesty right and and and blunt honest
Speaker 5: communication that is making for a thrilling watch. But I
Speaker 5: do believe that Shamiah is under more intense scrutiny than
Speaker 5: the rest.
Speaker 6: Of the ladies. And I don't know really what that's
Speaker 6: all about.
Speaker 1: Well, well, because she said the last night, go ahead, Brisia, baby,
Speaker 1: Brisia Webb, last night love that.
Speaker 2: I think you are. We are more than welcome to
Speaker 2: and bite you to join the four of us.
Speaker 3: Rista you you clocked it.
Speaker 4: So let me tell you watching this, this Shamiah has
Speaker 4: lost her light. And why where is the bubbly Shamida
Speaker 4: of yesteryear. I wish anyone would be in the position
Speaker 4: to be everyone's punching bag, whether you earned.
Speaker 7: It or not.
Speaker 4: Human nature is gonna make you shut down a little bit.
Speaker 4: You're not gonna be as bubbly because then.
Speaker 3: When she was bubbly, y'all was calling a corny y'all's
Speaker 3: calling herm notxious. She just irritates me. I don't know,
Speaker 3: she's just doing too much. She's doing too much.
Speaker 4: They all do too much in some regard, But for
Speaker 4: some reason I agree she is just on a different
Speaker 4: measuring sick or different ruler than everybody else. And I
Speaker 4: will say this when you really think about it. Every
Speaker 4: time someone has a scene with smiir they bring up
Speaker 4: Porsche to her. And Shemiah has tried on multiple occasions
Speaker 4: to say.
Speaker 3: I don't want to talk about her, I don't want
Speaker 3: to talk about her, but they keep bringing her up.
Speaker 3: And then when she does respond, oh, you can't stop
Speaker 3: keeping you got Porsche's name in your mouth. They don't
Speaker 3: do that to Porsche. Every single scene with Porsche they're
Speaker 3: allowed to talk about.
Speaker 2: Why do you think that?
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, she's she's not on the call
Speaker 4: sheet now, right, So there's that, and they have other
Speaker 4: things to talk about.
Speaker 3: They have other things they talk about.
Speaker 4: It's like a fuller friend experience with Porsche, right, They'll
Speaker 4: talk about kids, they'll talk about dating, they'll talk about life,
Speaker 4: they'll talk about everything else. But with Shemia, they only
Speaker 4: want to make her existence on the show be about Porsche.
Speaker 4: When she's over here trying to have a boy manage it,
Speaker 4: her marriage, failing out, our business.
Speaker 3: But that's still a storyline.
Speaker 4: There's other things they can ask her about, but they
Speaker 4: choose to always bring a Porsche. And I love Drew
Speaker 4: and I love Angela, but they do bring her up
Speaker 4: every time. And then, of course as I won't see
Speaker 4: inexperience because she's been around for a while. It's a
Speaker 4: huge difference. I need people to understand. He moongests difference
Speaker 4: from being a friend of the show than being main
Speaker 4: character housewife. It's two different experiences. A friend the show,
Speaker 4: you are a plus one. You only can do a
Speaker 4: scene when you the person you're attached to. You're the
Speaker 4: satellite of that person, right, The person you're attached to
Speaker 4: has their storyline and you chime in. It's never about
Speaker 4: your life. So when you're it's about you, it's different.
Speaker 4: It's just different, y'all. And so it's like an abuser
Speaker 4: whooping their wife's ass, right, an abusive husband and then
Speaker 4: being like, bitch, why don't you smile like you said
Speaker 4: when we first got together, and you're like, but there
Speaker 4: you go, complain it again. It's crazy to me, Like
Speaker 4: and again, I'm not saying sham is guilt free and innocent.
Speaker 4: She's done her stuff, but honestly, everyone on the show,
Speaker 4: we can find something where people got caught in lies,
Speaker 4: putting ten on twenty, not giving for multiple episodes and
Speaker 4: a manch of time, okay, Michelle Phaedra, and they're always
Speaker 4: forgiven for way worse offenses. I keep saying, what is
Speaker 4: the what do they hate her so much?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: Because she talked about her friends you with Porsche when
Speaker 4: all these people will do They've done so many things
Speaker 4: on the show and they've managed to somehow get over
Speaker 4: it right.
Speaker 7: And the plus one is probably why they in her
Speaker 7: mind because we said to the plus one and it
Speaker 7: dropped something. Do you do the fact that for so
Speaker 7: many years, the better part of her decade, Shamillah was
Speaker 7: seen as Porsche's friend. That's why people can see Porsche
Speaker 7: as a singular being but have a hard time seeing
Speaker 7: Shamia without taking a Porsche. Because I have a friend
Speaker 7: that I've reached to my friend group and they constantly
Speaker 7: bring me up around this person because I like, to them,
Speaker 7: that's Blue's friend, right, And I started saying, I want
Speaker 7: you all to text her without me. I want you
Speaker 7: all to talk to her without me. She's her own person.
Speaker 7: I don't want to be involved. I had to explicitly
Speaker 7: say it because it wasn't menacing. It was just like
Speaker 7: that's blue friend who brought her into the group. So
Speaker 7: I'm wondering, Yes, there's maneuvering, but do you think there's
Speaker 7: also a part of them that always thinks of Shemiah
Speaker 7: as Porscha's plus one, And now that they've fallen out,
Speaker 7: maybe next season it'll be easy to see them as
Speaker 7: through separate beings because the thought was so heavy.
Speaker 4: Maybe, And let me just say, I think Shemia, you know,
Speaker 4: on one regard she's called she's accused of being Porscha's representative,
Speaker 4: lap dog, dick rider, all these things, but then also
Speaker 4: being a hater. You can't be two things at once.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry with this. I think she went so hard
Speaker 4: for her friend. She put her own feeling to the back,
Speaker 4: and let herself get clowned by her in other years,
Speaker 4: and forgave stuff that she shouldn't have forgiven her four
Speaker 4: years ago, and overlooked things because I think Shemiah had
Speaker 4: a lower self esteem than Porsche.
Speaker 3: I really do think that too. I agree and I
Speaker 3: think you have friends. We can tell one can like
Speaker 3: get away with a lot of stuff that the other
Speaker 3: one would not be able to get away with. Like
Speaker 3: when they remember Porsha and Shmi.
Speaker 4: Were at a lunch or something, met up and Shami
Speaker 4: was trying to express herself how she felt about something,
Speaker 4: and the way that she was just like, are you done?
Speaker 4: Like it was not even considering her friend's feelings. It
Speaker 4: showed such an imbalance and that relationship and that happens,
Speaker 4: and Shamiah Levy, girl, but that was your bad for
Speaker 4: letting someone disrespect you for all the for way too
Speaker 4: long and seeing you as a be character when you
Speaker 4: saw yourself as finally like, oh we're we in this together.
Speaker 4: I would like nothing else. A secure person will like
Speaker 4: nothing else in their bestie to come on the show.
Speaker 4: You'll imagine you're like someone that you really rock with
Speaker 4: and you love. Were gonna run these girl were gonna
Speaker 4: run circles together. Only one of them thought that, and
Speaker 4: that was Shamiyah. Porchia was like, hmmm, not too much
Speaker 4: on my job, not too much on my situation. But
Speaker 4: it's not Porscha's show. She's not the executive producer She's
Speaker 4: not any common and she's not Bravo, so you can't
Speaker 4: dictate that.
Speaker 3: You may feel a way, but I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think that people are being unrealistic and what they
Speaker 4: expected from Shamiyah to take the beats and the hits,
Speaker 4: whether earned or not, and also have the audacity to
Speaker 4: not be chipper. I would be chipper either. I would
Speaker 4: not be chippy being ignored by someone I still probably love.
Speaker 4: I'm still hurt by that. Shit hurts, It hurts. It's uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I want to say congratulations to her and
Speaker 1: Geryl for the Sarah GETSI there as of I think
Speaker 1: they said it was three months.
Speaker 3: Yeah, anything, that's wonderful news.
Speaker 7: That means okay, that means that we know the stork
Speaker 7: is coming.
Speaker 3: If Claudia can't say anywhere, wonderful yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: So shout out to Gerald and Shamia. They are expecting.
Speaker 1: So that that's great news and I can't wait to
Speaker 1: see it. And not so great news, Drew. SOI doorra
Speaker 1: shot a Seama her mother, and she's looking for a
Speaker 1: new house. The house is one point three million, it
Speaker 1: is over seven thousand square foot, have six bedrooms, and
Speaker 1: she's looking for a new home because as we know
Speaker 1: now right, so at the time of filming, they were
Speaker 1: getting ready to go to court. What we do know
Speaker 1: as of now, as of today, although it could be contested,
Speaker 1: but as of now wrap allegedly it but is in
Speaker 1: the document, was awarded full primary custody of the kids
Speaker 1: and he also gets to keep the house and Drew
Speaker 1: has to move out. So in this theme, which was
Speaker 1: so it was so sad because look, I have been
Speaker 1: hard on Shemia her first couple of seasons. I told
Speaker 1: Shemia to her not Shemia, I'm sorry. I've been hard
Speaker 1: on Drew her first couple of seasons. I've told Drew
Speaker 1: to her face. It was giving me Tala Perry tes
Speaker 1: some of the acting and the production her rap did.
Speaker 1: She swore up and down to me, she said, Carlos,
Speaker 1: I think that's hilarious. It was real, like I promise
Speaker 1: she was real. I will say this was the realest
Speaker 1: scene I've ever seen from Juice Dora. I honestly felt
Speaker 1: bad for her as she was breaking down crying to
Speaker 1: her mom because in this moment she is talking about
Speaker 1: how Ralph does want full custody of the kids, starting
Speaker 1: with you Blue do you think, Look what we have
Speaker 1: seen the core documents was that allegedly, you.
Speaker 2: Know, rap said that.
Speaker 1: The kids were missing a lot of school, a lot
Speaker 1: of school in addition to some other things, he did
Speaker 1: get awarded full custody. As of now, what are your
Speaker 1: thoughts on that, because the thing is it's not every
Speaker 1: day that a mother gives rebuilt her rights of primary custody.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I have a lot of questions, I hope. I
Speaker 7: don't know if we know somebody who's read over the
Speaker 7: entire transcript of what happened in court. I know, number one,
Speaker 7: they usually side with the mother, so it is really
Speaker 7: rare in extenuating circumstances for them to side with the husband.
Speaker 7: But my first question was if the kids are missing school,
Speaker 7: you in the basement, why is that not your fault too?
Speaker 7: So I had confusion around that also to I will
Speaker 7: say this, being a visible public figure who is perceived
Speaker 7: to be a celebrity or a somebody who's well known
Speaker 7: as a woman is the same thing as being a man. Unfortunately,
Speaker 7: in the eyes of many, like women who are considered
Speaker 7: boss babes are seen like absene fathers because the assumption
Speaker 7: is you can't have at all. And since you want
Speaker 7: to be a boss baby, couldn't possibly also be a
Speaker 7: good mother. I've always thought that was a really unfair
Speaker 7: thing to do, because we don't do it to men
Speaker 7: when they're good fathers. Like if a man's a good father,
Speaker 7: if he just like pushes a bike, we all want
Speaker 7: a clap for him. So I was sad when she
Speaker 7: said that he was weaponizing her actual career against her
Speaker 7: as a way to stack the deck. And because they're
Speaker 7: in Georgia, where savvy around entertainment, you would think, but
Speaker 7: places like Georgia are very conservative when it comes to
Speaker 7: family law. Don't mistake the fact that Atlanta is seen
Speaker 7: as a hub for entertainment for the judicial system. The
Speaker 7: judicial is actually incredibly conservative at times in Georgia. And
Speaker 7: if he was speaking like, look, I make good money.
Speaker 7: She's always running around in lays front and on yachts
Speaker 7: and going to different things with a camera crew. I
Speaker 7: can see how an old school judge who doesn't have
Speaker 7: any cultural competency would be swayed by the picture that
Speaker 7: he drew, even though we know better. And I hate that.
Speaker 7: And one thing that she said that broke my heart is,
Speaker 7: how do you think it feels to know that the
Speaker 7: man that you tried to do life with thinks you're
Speaker 7: a bad mother. That like, I really almost cried when
Speaker 7: she said that. And so I think of everybody that
Speaker 7: we've seen this season. I know it's funny to say, Pink,
Speaker 7: you do something more than work. And I know we
Speaker 7: all have strong emotions about what's happening with Shin, me
Speaker 7: and Portie. I think silently, the person who's been going
Speaker 7: through the most of the season is actually Drewe and
Speaker 7: it actually breaks my heart.
Speaker 2: And what I do want to say, I'm gonna get
Speaker 2: to you next, Dustin. What I do want to do
Speaker 2: is read what reportedly.
Speaker 1: Has been awarded to rap So Druse Door temporarily lost
Speaker 1: primary physical custody of her two children the court ling
Speaker 1: in April of this year. The temporary change occurred during
Speaker 1: their ongoing divorce proceedings. A judge awarded Wrap primary physical
Speaker 1: custody during the school year after claims were raised regarding
Speaker 1: excessive school absences and tardiness while the children were induced care.
Speaker 1: Both parents continue to share joint legal custody of the children.
Speaker 1: Drew was granted parenting time on alternating weekends, and the
Speaker 1: Representatives for Drew emphasized that the ruling was part of
Speaker 1: an interim temporary order and not a final, permanent custody decision.
Speaker 2: Because of that, though, as of now, that same order has.
Speaker 1: Instructed Drew to vacate the home, and Drew defile court
Speaker 1: documents expressing excuse me concern over the timeline and financial strain,
Speaker 1: noting that the ongoing litigation was still moving.
Speaker 2: Through the child support arrangements. So that's the latest. But
Speaker 2: that's some of your thoughts on it.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, a lot of people have said that
Speaker 1: Ralph's the bad guy and all of this because of
Speaker 1: what man would do it to a woman. There are
Speaker 1: some people also who have said, look, if what they're
Speaker 1: reading is true, Ralph has every right as the father
Speaker 1: to invoke something if it relates to the childcare of
Speaker 1: his children going to school.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, I don't have no damn kids, but I know
Speaker 5: one of the worst things you can do is call
Speaker 5: someone with kids a bad parent, especially in this patriarchal
Speaker 5: ass society we live in. It's even worse for women,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. If you call a woman
Speaker 5: a bad mother, that's worse than probably anything that you
Speaker 5: can use to insult them right in their character, and
Speaker 5: so it is rare that you see a father paint
Speaker 5: a mom out to be a bad mother when you
Speaker 5: haven't seen I mean, we only get a glimpse into
Speaker 5: their personal life, right, but we've seen you be adoting
Speaker 5: attentive mother to her children on camera multiple times, even
Speaker 5: when they've been on trips. We've seen her make sure
Speaker 5: she's face timing, bringing up specific occurrences that are happening
Speaker 5: in the children's lives. So we haven't seen her be
Speaker 5: a bad mom. So it's kind of jarring to hear that.
Speaker 5: But those kids need to go to school. And if
Speaker 5: the kids had excessive absences and relph is in a
Speaker 5: better position and make sure that they are not truant, right,
Speaker 5: then great, maybe that's where they need to go, you know,
Speaker 5: eat breakfast and go to school in the morning. From
Speaker 5: But attacking her motherhood is something that I'm sure is
Speaker 5: devastating to her on a personal and emotional level in
Speaker 5: ways that I can't comprehend. So it's kind of like
Speaker 5: a final blow when it comes to going back and
Speaker 5: forth or trying to take a jab at somebody. I
Speaker 5: don't really know what motivated Ralph beyond what we've ascertained
Speaker 5: from the court documents about the children missing days of school.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure what motivated him to that boundary, across
Speaker 5: that line with her when it comes to them being
Speaker 5: combative with one another. I'm not sure what motivated him
Speaker 5: to go that far to paint her as a bad mom.
Speaker 5: So I just wish peace for their children. The children
Speaker 5: have always appeared to be well taken care of, well adjusted,
Speaker 5: bright personalities, So I hope what I hope the children
Speaker 5: get the best outcome. And like I said, that's crossing
Speaker 5: the line for sure, So hopefully masculated.
Speaker 7: Dustin't because you know what men feel masculated, They suddenly
Speaker 7: they get real nasty. I'm wondering if I was thinking
Speaker 7: that calling them with a bad mother is like the
Speaker 7: feminine equivalent to masculating a.
Speaker 6: Man mm hm.
Speaker 7: And so it's almost like there were so many jokes
Speaker 7: about him being emasculated.
Speaker 6: It almost in the basement and not working and shit,
Speaker 6: and look back.
Speaker 7: To like, yeah, well you're gonna attack my manhood. I
Speaker 7: want to attack your womanhood. That's nasty work. If that's
Speaker 7: what's happening in legislation.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well one thing, but even with that, right, Because
Speaker 5: when you think back to like season fifteen, when Drew
Speaker 5: was on the reunion and she was acting aloof to
Speaker 5: kind of like summ of Ralph's tactics or whatever, and
Speaker 5: she was saying how he had beat the I R. S.
Speaker 5: Drew never painted Ralph as shiftless and unemployed, right, I
Speaker 5: don't remember remember her doing that. If anything, I remember
Speaker 5: her painting him as cunning and strategic and you know,
Speaker 5: a person who would go the extra mile through work
Speaker 5: related means to get things done. She painted him as
Speaker 5: a high earner. So it's just it's odd to me.
Speaker 5: I do think that the two character assassinations are akin
Speaker 5: to one another, right, But yeah, that's just a lot
Speaker 5: to me to say, your kids, Mama, don't give a
Speaker 5: fuck about him.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's hard to know the real with these cases.
Speaker 4: And if you all have friends that are going through
Speaker 4: like a nasty, custy battle with their ex, whether they're
Speaker 4: not on good terms one partners mad that it didn't.
Speaker 3: Work out or whatever their issues are.
Speaker 4: There's so many ways to weaponize the system, especially in
Speaker 4: the South. My eyes have been so open living down
Speaker 4: here in Texas.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm in Rhode Island now.
Speaker 4: But when I was living in Texas, living in Georgia,
Speaker 4: and I have friends in Florida going through like nasty
Speaker 4: Cussey battles, and the ways that they lean towards the fathers.
Speaker 4: You would think it'd be towards the mothers, it's not.
Speaker 4: And they do, like Blue said, they are very really
Speaker 4: conservative judges. And a lot of times the female judges
Speaker 4: are even worse than the men because they don't want
Speaker 4: to do what they can ad buy it to the mothers.
Speaker 4: And a lot of times they're a lot hotter on
Speaker 4: the mothers than they are on the fathers. When a
Speaker 4: father misses appointment after appointment, have to pick up after
Speaker 4: pick up at the date, and says I had to work,
Speaker 4: and then when he does the minimum, it's well, he's
Speaker 4: trying to be a good dad. And then when a
Speaker 4: mom is trying to balance motherhood and having an actual
Speaker 4: career and working and not just leaching out this man,
Speaker 4: you know, she's unfit. She's not prioritizing her children because
Speaker 4: they still have his idea in America, in the world
Speaker 4: that a woman's first and only priority should be the
Speaker 4: children and work is work.
Speaker 3: Goals be damned. I mean look out.
Speaker 4: They dragged Ice of Curry for having the audacity to say,
Speaker 4: sometimes I just happen to wonder what I could have been,
Speaker 4: not saying I hate my life.
Speaker 6: I just wonder.
Speaker 3: They dragged her.
Speaker 4: They say she wants to be with other men, And
Speaker 4: this is how I look at this broad They drag her,
Speaker 4: and I think I have a friend that a really
Speaker 4: good friend that I'm witnessing the way that this man
Speaker 4: will her baby, will miss phone calls with the daughter
Speaker 4: and ask her to switch dates, and she'll always accommodate.
Speaker 4: But the one time she'll asks, he won't do what
Speaker 4: he refused, or he'll set her up to get a
Speaker 4: missed phone call, and then that goes on her record
Speaker 4: and they build a case against you. It's also they
Speaker 4: don't have to pay you child support, right, it ain't
Speaker 4: really about the well being of the kid. A lot
Speaker 4: of times, not saying a round, but a lot of
Speaker 4: times they will weaponize the system against the moms.
Speaker 3: Now, and yes, the pendulum it does swim both ways.
Speaker 4: Maybe there are a lot there were some women that
Speaker 4: were abusing the system, but damn it, let's not act
Speaker 4: like there are men that do the same.
Speaker 3: Not saying Ralphis. But let's keep off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and when I say both on me Drew Raph,
Speaker 1: I don't know nothing about Drew and Ralph situation that
Speaker 1: you know. Listen, drews appealing and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: What I will say, based on my knowledge of other people.
Speaker 1: Once again, this is not related to jew and Ralph.
Speaker 1: I will say that, Claudia. Unfortunately from my experience with
Speaker 1: other women who I know I have, I know women
Speaker 1: who have used the system to make their men appear
Speaker 1: to be non active bothers. I know women who have
Speaker 1: encouraged a lot of things, and it is it is
Speaker 1: unfortunate too, because I do want to say this, there
Speaker 1: are some men who actually want to be in their kids' lives.
Speaker 1: You know this, this whole stereotype that you know black
Speaker 1: men are diaby dad. Statistics have shown that that's not
Speaker 1: the case.
Speaker 7: Present white father's. That's my favorite stat Black men marry
Speaker 7: women more Black men are better fathers, and so we
Speaker 7: were conflating marriage with fatherhood than they're different exactly.
Speaker 2: So I will say that.
Speaker 1: And again this is once again because no clip this,
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about you and round. What I am
Speaker 1: saying is I personally know, women who have lied under oath.
Speaker 6: That's awful to paint their.
Speaker 1: Child father as a bad person because they wanted to
Speaker 1: teach him a lesson. And what I do think is
Speaker 1: it is happening. Like Claudia said, the pendulum has ship swifted,
Speaker 1: for sure. But I do think what is unfortunate is
Speaker 1: for both parties. What has what has been lost in
Speaker 1: all of this is what's best for the kids.
Speaker 6: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And and and that's what makes me sad because your
Speaker 1: children and this is this is what I don't think
Speaker 1: parents understand.
Speaker 2: I don't care if they two or twelve, they will
Speaker 2: always remember what you put them through.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, my parents all the time.
Speaker 3: Sh yeah, it's yeah.
Speaker 4: I had some experience being around Drew, of course outside
Speaker 4: of Housewives, but I'm not on that. But like, just
Speaker 4: so like we had to like spend a lot of
Speaker 4: time together last year when we were promoting our movie Run.
Speaker 4: And when I tell you that girl was working herself
Speaker 4: damn at her death and trying to be all things
Speaker 4: that everyone trying to be on set. She would leave
Speaker 4: one set, she would leave the movie, fly back to Atlanta,
Speaker 4: do something with her kids. Film Uh, you know, film
Speaker 4: some scenes over there, come back. She was working herself
Speaker 4: so hard and going back and forth that she got pneumonia.
Speaker 4: She went to the hospital more than once, and she
Speaker 4: was really, really sick, and I remember being like, damn,
Speaker 4: she was facetimon She was like she was not sitting down,
Speaker 4: and it almost.
Speaker 3: Felt she was frantic, like I have to do this.
Speaker 6: I got to miss school.
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably.
Speaker 7: He's back. I had a Fatia was about to drop.
Speaker 7: Here it comes Dustin.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Claudia, And I remember being the er and
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, so imagine that. And then you
Speaker 3: got this guy yeah before.
Speaker 7: Just waiting for you to fuck up so he could
Speaker 7: tell the judge.
Speaker 5: I want to make a note here, right, just because
Speaker 5: Drew does not have traditional custody or whatever the specifics
Speaker 5: of their agreement is, we are living in twenty twenty six,
Speaker 5: that does not mean that that she loves her pildren
Speaker 5: any less. They can have a different family structure that
Speaker 5: that that does benefit the children beds and maybe that
Speaker 5: does look like Ralph taking him to school.
Speaker 6: We don't know what the fuck that means.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, But I just don't want
Speaker 5: to shame Drew, and I don't want people to misunderstand
Speaker 5: the fact that that judgment or whatever that does not
Speaker 5: then equate to Drew being a bad mom. That's just
Speaker 5: what their family structure looks like right now. And I
Speaker 5: just want to I don't want to conflate the two.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, I want I.
Speaker 1: Want to say again represent to Tiest for Drusi, Doorra
Speaker 1: said and I quote that the ruling was part of
Speaker 1: an interim temporary order and not a final permanent custody decision.
Speaker 1: So Reps for Drusi Dora said that this is not
Speaker 1: a final permanent but just one in the meantime.
Speaker 7: I say that because the scream made it looked like
Speaker 7: she was going to like the screaming, it looked bad.
Speaker 1: Well, well, the thing is this, Well reason why I
Speaker 1: was like, damn, you want to jail? Like yeah, and
Speaker 1: the reason right, no real talk and the reason why
Speaker 1: I wanted to. I want to make it very clear
Speaker 1: the court documents have stated everything we talked about, and
Speaker 1: I want to make clear that drews Raps outside of
Speaker 1: what we read the court documents, Drews Reps said that
Speaker 1: what we read is just temporary.
Speaker 4: Back to the thing, about the South cast is I
Speaker 4: am thank you for the ladies in the comments that
Speaker 4: are saying they are going through similar things in the
Speaker 4: South and sharing like how the system really is really
Speaker 4: not fair.
Speaker 3: Right, I know someone I know, y'all you have a
Speaker 3: story for everybody. Listen.
Speaker 4: I'm fifty three, I have I've lived a lot of life, Okay,
Speaker 4: I got a lot of people, I got a lot
Speaker 4: of friends that the baby daddy right was how to
Speaker 4: take a psychological test and was diagnosed as a sociopath,
Speaker 4: and that was not enough to stop to stop them
Speaker 4: from handing over way too much time to this man.
Speaker 4: They said it was one of the worst cases they've
Speaker 4: ever seen. Okay, one of the worst cases they ever seen,
Speaker 4: and they still let unsupervised visits happened. And my friend
Speaker 4: was fighting, fighting, fighting, fighting, and it was horrible. She
Speaker 4: was she she was drained her all her money going
Speaker 4: through this. But then when you don't have money to
Speaker 4: fight and against one of these motions and you lose
Speaker 4: because of that, on paper, it looks like, oh, you
Speaker 4: lost custody, or you're a.
Speaker 3: Bad mom, you're unfit.
Speaker 4: No, it really goes deep in that there's so much
Speaker 4: financial abuse that happens, especially if the one parent has
Speaker 4: way more money than the other. They can like beat
Speaker 4: you on paper. You know, they can piss the whip
Speaker 4: you through lawyers and fees and you can every time
Speaker 4: they file in emotion. You gotta respond. And when you
Speaker 4: run out of money, you stop responding, you try to
Speaker 4: represent yourself, you start losing, and then they'd be like, oh,
Speaker 4: unfit mother, and you can't say anything publicly about that
Speaker 4: person or they will that be another ding against you.
Speaker 3: And it happens to others all the time.
Speaker 4: There's so many women that have their kids taking away
Speaker 4: from them and put in danger and custody with these
Speaker 4: these abusive fathers or mothers.
Speaker 3: And it's really bad, y'all. We need a whole overhaul
Speaker 3: in Ron.
Speaker 4: DeSantis, in Florida, Marble and a lot of states in
Speaker 4: South greg abb in Texas and Georgia is not too
Speaker 4: far behind with some of these wats. I'm telling you,
Speaker 4: they are letting kids be handed over to abusive parents.
Speaker 4: So because they're so afraid of what we don't want
Speaker 4: to keep.
Speaker 6: That you know, we're not talking about yeah, because you
Speaker 6: know what they're gonna do.
Speaker 4: And I'm not clumping Southern men. I'm saying the system, y'all,
Speaker 4: and there's also unfit mothers. I'm saying, the system is
Speaker 4: very skewed.
Speaker 3: You just can't run with.
Speaker 6: Kim's ghetto ass. Kim's Osiak Prime.
Speaker 5: You know, don't damn money going with that lady husband. Now,
Speaker 5: there's always some ghetto shit going on in that camp.
Speaker 5: You've seen the ladies.
Speaker 6: She's going with some ladies husband, and now the lady
Speaker 6: allegedly going with Croy again.
Speaker 7: Oh yes, the parking lot. Her new boyfriend's ex and
Speaker 7: Croy were spotted making eyes at each other in the
Speaker 7: parking lot like they had a wife swap.
Speaker 6: Got a fuck the too, if I was. You know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, I've.
Speaker 7: Done that for real. So I've looked at clean life,
Speaker 7: but I have moments.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's we need love and country.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: To follow and let them cameras follow Kim and Kroy
Speaker 5: and all them goddamn cheering, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: all them them children running them up over there in
Speaker 5: that house.
Speaker 7: See do you see that his car said hide me Jesus.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because we're talking Kim, that's why you like you
Speaker 6: love him?
Speaker 3: You love.
Speaker 2: So one thing that happened in this episode, that's sort of.
Speaker 1: Him.
Speaker 2: I want to get.
Speaker 3: Figure out Bazosia. Do you love him?
Speaker 7: Not Kardashian Zosiac.
Speaker 3: So that's that Kardashian. No, I think he.
Speaker 7: I know he likes Kim Kardashian, but I want.
Speaker 3: To make sure we love.
Speaker 6: Tell them one this guy young we need love and
Speaker 6: blue Grass.
Speaker 3: We love and cigarette.
Speaker 2: I love your child first of all, not gonna say
Speaker 2: love in new Ports. I can't rock.
Speaker 6: I love me too.
Speaker 2: So I love all the girls.
Speaker 7: You know, man, we can't talk.
Speaker 1: But honestly, little quick story, I was talking to it
Speaker 1: about girls today and we were just I just wanted
Speaker 1: to talk to her, and long story short, she was like,
Speaker 1: I know you love us, and.
Speaker 2: I said, I love all your girls.
Speaker 11: And she said, I know you have a hard job
Speaker 11: to do sometimes. And I said, you know what it is,
Speaker 11: what it is, I said, I want all you girls
Speaker 11: to know. I stick to the episode and I'm my
Speaker 11: business and it is.
Speaker 2: Atlanta. I won't say this. The thing is, I'm no longer.
Speaker 3: I'm no longer.
Speaker 1: I think it's hard. It used to be hard. And
Speaker 1: Claudia doesn't know this. Blue It used to be very
Speaker 1: hard for me. But I will say this, I have
Speaker 1: made a decisions now because listen, I don't know what's
Speaker 1: having my life, Carmen Jennifer Hudson. I am changing dream
Speaker 1: Girl soundtrack. The thing is, I feel like as long
Speaker 1: as I stick to the episode, even if if you
Speaker 1: if you're mad at me for talking about the episode,
Speaker 1: then there's nothing I can to help you.
Speaker 2: So I mean that's I'm being nice about it. I don't,
Speaker 2: but I will say, Hi, Kim Zosiak and Kardashian. So
Speaker 2: I want to get to Cather.
Speaker 6: She ain't here that she had the casino.
Speaker 2: Where Scooter.
Speaker 1: So speaking of what's going on with dad, Kelly met
Speaker 1: with Pedra. So Claudia Phedra is Kelly's attorney. Sorry, go ahead,
Speaker 1: we all just work here. Go ahead, carls oh So,
Speaker 1: Dustin you good?
Speaker 6: Mm hmmm. This Kim Zosi texting me, I.
Speaker 2: Bought up okay.
Speaker 1: So Caedra is representing Kelly as they are going through
Speaker 1: you know, Kelly's custodial situation, child support, back, child support,
Speaker 1: you know her with her ex husband.
Speaker 2: Pedra is at the law firm, she has her she
Speaker 2: has a team of people.
Speaker 7: I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm not doing it to day. I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not why you make that face. So I wasn't
Speaker 3: gonna say that you make that face.
Speaker 2: In order for me not to laugh, I have to
Speaker 2: breathe and breathe out, okay.
Speaker 7: Or was it like an actual law office? Okay, your
Speaker 7: producer just want into the logistics.
Speaker 3: That was a real team.
Speaker 6: I would have had that ship at the funeral home
Speaker 6: if follows her.
Speaker 2: Dead Blue asked if Phaeder was working out a we work.
Speaker 2: I just I just want to know.
Speaker 7: I want to learn from you as a producer.
Speaker 3: Notice, I'm not saying anything. It's Blue. Y'all be mad
Speaker 3: at her. Don't be mad at me this week.
Speaker 7: I don't care for it.
Speaker 3: Then I got to say I so.
Speaker 1: Phaeda followed emotion, followed the motion for child support payments,
Speaker 1: and she also followed the emotion to have a kids
Speaker 1: shut on TV. Kelly looked busily sad what was going on?
Speaker 1: In the end, Phaedra bought her a Breastplate of Righteousness,
Speaker 1: which was a gift bag with a brawl Blue to
Speaker 1: loose mup? What did you think of dress scene with
Speaker 1: her legal team and buying Kelly?
Speaker 3: A video review? Nineteen I will limp it.
Speaker 7: Look, but God give Bobby Brown, so let me blue
Speaker 7: to not okay? So, I mean Kelly looked nice and
Speaker 7: she is Brown lawyer at Onesie. I didn't realize they were.
Speaker 2: That close by the way up Blue. Kelly says, Hi, No,
Speaker 2: she didn't said she liked pink.
Speaker 7: I got people to don't play with Look, Kelly, I'm
Speaker 7: you being offended by objective reasoning doesn't surprising me. It's
Speaker 7: the cases. So I look, man, I.
Speaker 3: Curls.
Speaker 7: You can't you turning red? Friend?
Speaker 9: You turn I don't know what's first of all, I
Speaker 9: don't know if the spirit of justice hire tonight and
Speaker 9: I am turning red. I've never seen a red nipples
Speaker 9: on the black man.
Speaker 7: Yes, go ahead, friend.
Speaker 3: He gonna do menopause. The menopause that he's gonna do.
Speaker 4: The menopause should be going to you know who you hire, sir?
Speaker 4: If you adjusting his are you adjusting a penis?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 2: Because it was.
Speaker 1: Exercise.
Speaker 7: You a lie. She did a whole lie.
Speaker 6: She did not say that.
Speaker 1: He literally didn't say all little back, ask Claudia the
Speaker 1: hands what they just did to you?
Speaker 2: They have me the Claudia. They want to go under
Speaker 2: a housewart pages, Claudia said, fuck you bitch, and look
Speaker 2: I'm gonna like Clauia did not say that now she
Speaker 2: said this, but no, I actually.
Speaker 7: Don't have any beef for Kelly. In fact, I went
Speaker 7: back and watched episodes. There's episodes where me, Claudia, and
Speaker 7: Dustin are all saying she needs to say because she's
Speaker 7: working for her check.
Speaker 6: I personally yes, the fact that we.
Speaker 7: All echoed each other repeatedly. What I think is happening
Speaker 7: is she probably first away by when I said about Shamiyah,
Speaker 7: and she's being protected from her friend. And as someone
Speaker 7: who's had friends be attacked publicly and I protected them,
Speaker 7: I can't hate on that. I'm prussell bridge of Kelly.
Speaker 7: You talk about her now we got we got beef.
Speaker 7: So I'm not a hypocrite. I understand the game. So yes,
Speaker 7: keep liking Pink. So like I was saying about Kelly,
Speaker 7: and and and I think that a broken clock is
Speaker 7: right twice a day. And despite what Claudia might have
Speaker 7: informed us, being a journalistic, you know from the night
Speaker 7: teen hundreds about Bobby Brown's that maybe in this instance
Speaker 7: Phedro could actually figure that out and do something with
Speaker 7: a living body, right, So yeah, I you can't be
Speaker 7: a standard and a hand me down.
Speaker 6: But so I'm I'm a living.
Speaker 7: You know, I'm trying. Okay, I'm doing my best.
Speaker 3: What are you trying then?
Speaker 2: What are you trying trying to the standards?
Speaker 7: The standards if Marlow Hampton didn't happen.
Speaker 3: So remember two ways ago Blues and I have nothing
Speaker 3: against Kelly have everything Kelly.
Speaker 7: No, I have nothing against Kelly, but I also have
Speaker 7: Wi Fi and I watched I also have Wi Fi.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm gonna give. I'm gonna give as you.
Speaker 7: Deserve an Emmy because the way you just kept your
Speaker 7: face in one piece, the lies, the lies you almost
Speaker 7: broke that lady kept talking and Carlos just kept counting
Speaker 7: backage from one hundred, and you saw his spirit leave
Speaker 7: his body. He's like, it's gonna be the best clip.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna give five billions. Kelly paid the way for
Speaker 7: it for Kelly. So no, I will say this. Here's
Speaker 7: the thing that I think is gonna sound crazy. I
Speaker 7: actually a part of me wishes that Kelly and Drew
Speaker 7: could figure out how to do a truce because they're
Speaker 7: both going through similar things right now, like have you
Speaker 7: noticed that, Like they're both going through husbands who are
Speaker 7: are doing weird things with children and the footage, they're
Speaker 7: both going through a dark knight of the soul. They're
Speaker 7: both sting his weak links will get picked on a lot.
Speaker 7: They're both feisty and hard to kill. I kind of
Speaker 7: like a bitch that you y'all know. I don't like
Speaker 7: anybody who's pussy. The one thing I will give Kelly,
Speaker 7: even if she comes up my leg and tries to
Speaker 7: drag my wig. I like her spunk. I like her. Yes, yes,
Speaker 7: if Kelly was in the room, she and I would
Speaker 7: be going back and forth. I like that shit. I
Speaker 7: respect it right. So I'm kind of hoping that Fader
Speaker 7: can get that once in a lifetime look that she's
Speaker 7: been waiting for recently, help.
Speaker 3: Her like winning a case.
Speaker 7: Yes, broken clock twice, it's six fifteen twice a day.
Speaker 7: And I'm hoping that if Fadri can you know, pull
Speaker 7: a rabbit out the hat, that Kelly can go back
Speaker 7: to being, you know, the lucid, fancy free girl. We
Speaker 7: loving her T shirt and her panties, setting the standard
Speaker 7: and hangs her way.
Speaker 4: Didn't and I hate to say this, you know, I
Speaker 4: hate compliment. I hate compliment and a fake ass dish.
Speaker 3: But didn't she do actually some good?
Speaker 4: Like didn't she get her like able to let the
Speaker 4: kids film and all that like she made some she
Speaker 4: you know what now this.
Speaker 3: It's not like you did good good good?
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And not only did that shout off to Parks Esquire,
Speaker 1: she got the kids to film.
Speaker 3: Are going too far?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 2: Drug that's her name, shout out to Favor Squire.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm a doctor too.
Speaker 4: I got one of them honorary to give all the
Speaker 4: Atlanta celebrities, mey tyres.
Speaker 3: Everybody was taking. We all had that same black and
Speaker 3: red gown on.
Speaker 7: And had this.
Speaker 3: That was all my show and we all okay.
Speaker 2: Graduated, be graduated from law school?
Speaker 7: Which which one?
Speaker 3: Which one?
Speaker 2: I believe? If it's okay, what are the bulldogs?
Speaker 6: Is that the University of Georgia Georgia?
Speaker 7: Right? Actually?
Speaker 3: Blue, I heard you, Blue, I heard you say I
Speaker 3: was looking to shut up mean shady.
Speaker 7: It's my tism. I didn't medicate today.
Speaker 12: Man, we are Anyways, not only did she get awarded
Speaker 12: the kiss at film, she was also able to have
Speaker 12: which is Look, it's unfortunate that from what Bravo said
Speaker 12: at the end credits that unfortunately, or how do you
Speaker 12: want to see it, the husband have to go to
Speaker 12: jail until he was able to pay back thirty one
Speaker 12: thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: In back top support payments.
Speaker 4: So you know what, we give her a hard time,
Speaker 4: but when you're right, you're right, and we got to
Speaker 4: get props. She did that on that and I and
Speaker 4: I believe did she do it for free?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And that's and that's dope.
Speaker 4: Listen, Pedra, your makeup may not match, but you did
Speaker 4: it on this scene like you really did.
Speaker 3: Like, oh, I wasn't suposed to say that ship you did?
Speaker 7: Hold up for the shows?
Speaker 3: Where's my degree from? I don't have to have an
Speaker 3: agree to talk shit about people on reality TV.
Speaker 4: If you think that, I'm sorry. I got a bridge
Speaker 4: feed to buy, Like, get out of here with that. Anyways,
Speaker 4: I'm giving the lady props.
Speaker 3: Don't tell me off here. She did good that. I
Speaker 3: think that's great.
Speaker 4: It was nice that she offered to do it, whether
Speaker 4: for the cameras or not, she's still put in the work.
Speaker 4: She did it and having a successful result after all
Speaker 4: the fat shade with losing case and all that kind
Speaker 4: of stuff. Listen, when when she's doing right and doing good,
Speaker 4: you gotta give it to her. And that's dope that
Speaker 4: I'm not mad that I think this is actually super dope.
Speaker 3: I really do. But we don't have we don't huh No.
Speaker 7: The one thing I'll say that my mom's a scorpio.
Speaker 7: Scorpios like Chris Jenner, they will do anything and involve
Speaker 7: their kids. I think the mother and Pedra stood up
Speaker 7: for the mother and Kelly, so I actually do believe
Speaker 7: that's sincere. I always sincere. But I think mother to mother.
Speaker 7: I think that's what was probably the emphasis for her
Speaker 7: to show up Cala like that exactly, Nica, not doctor
Speaker 7: Claudia girl.
Speaker 2: So what are we all so saw? Was that a
Speaker 2: therapist is so doctor.
Speaker 7: Ken because the way he was ribbing on her stuff. Okay,
Speaker 7: this is some.
Speaker 1: Real shit and and listen, I don't know doctor can
Speaker 1: and it is what it is, and we listened. I'll
Speaker 1: speak for myself because like Blue said, this ain't French.
Speaker 1: I wasn't say, well, who told my girl? Should mea
Speaker 1: don't you ever once again in your life to work
Speaker 1: at a conference.
Speaker 2: Room in a business meeting.
Speaker 1: Yes, enough, doctor Ken, I don't know you my brother,
Speaker 1: to be on camera as a doctor while you're there
Speaker 1: to celebrate Drew's mother. And the way you sort of
Speaker 1: hugged Phaedra for the extended period.
Speaker 2: Of time that you did.
Speaker 1: I I thought that was just beyond inappropriate. I thought
Speaker 1: about the wrong place. I thought it was the wrong time.
Speaker 2: I thought it was the.
Speaker 1: Wrong sort of situation to put Phaedra in. I honestly
Speaker 1: felt bad for as a woman having to.
Speaker 6: Oh well on the dead homies. That's a fact. That's
Speaker 6: a Fendi fact.
Speaker 5: He definitely made us think about Syne Bryant's foolishness. Don't
Speaker 5: say well, I will, I will. He made us all
Speaker 5: think about fake doctors, doctor Taye, the nigga from season four,
Speaker 5: and Rai's car party. Yeah, Doctor Francis would never ever,
Speaker 5: and neither would doctor Sherry.
Speaker 7: You that song is in my head, that woman brace
Speaker 7: claud You know that song? I want to grab you
Speaker 7: in Chris brother, it felt very sexual. I feel like
Speaker 7: his little peep slid up a little bit. And here's
Speaker 7: the thing. To think it was fat is something that
Speaker 7: I do. There's a thing called fight or flight, but
Speaker 7: people don't talk about freezer Fawn where you say something
Speaker 7: like fawnish and cute and then slither away so that
Speaker 7: the man doesn't have a violent reaction. Favor fawns when
Speaker 7: she's nervous. Sometimes I do it too, sometimes right like, well,
Speaker 7: I see you, Fred, get him off of me. She
Speaker 7: was trying to keep it cute because she didn't want
Speaker 7: to embarrass him, but I could tell she was uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: She was uncomfortable and listening about faiths a scorpion.
Speaker 1: If you watch the show Old Faedra definitely lean into
Speaker 1: like the flirty stuff.
Speaker 2: But it was just it was something in that moment
Speaker 2: that I and and again maybe it was just me.
Speaker 1: I felt uncomfortable for her, like she did not look comfortable. Now, look,
Speaker 1: it's maybe they know each other, and that's how I.
Speaker 2: She She didn't look comfortable to me.
Speaker 3: Watching the same show that she was.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 3: Beyonce exactly is lie and act like I was moaning.
Speaker 4: I don't moan when I'm gonna come when Steven Seagal
Speaker 4: tried to sexually harass me in his house with his hair. Plus,
Speaker 4: I didn't moan. I certainly did not moan. And yes,
Speaker 4: we all react differently.
Speaker 3: But.
Speaker 4: Okay, I may freeze you're right A freeze one thousand said,
Speaker 4: but not a shimmy and a a shimmy and a
Speaker 4: titty bump.
Speaker 7: No fee. I'm a fonner, though I'll crack a joke
Speaker 7: to like, man, I'm not about to do with y'all.
Speaker 7: I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not listen.
Speaker 3: Let's stop at giving her props for helping Kelly.
Speaker 6: That was dope.
Speaker 4: She had some great confessional looks this season. She finally
Speaker 4: woke up at second last episode. She did great in Scotland.
Speaker 4: I'm giving her props, but what I'm not gonna do
Speaker 4: is act like she was this victim in that moment.
Speaker 4: He was a creep, yes, and she lean into it
Speaker 4: because loves you to think she's so sexual. And that's
Speaker 4: my I'm sticking to what I said. I don't give
Speaker 4: the damn who agrees with me.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 7: Don't.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And to be fair, we haven't heard her say
Speaker 5: that the man made her feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 6: Carlos was just saying that's.
Speaker 7: True to him, she was uncomfortable. They think she she
Speaker 7: know I would.
Speaker 1: Say she looked uncomfortable uncomfortable to me, but like doesn't
Speaker 1: said And Doctor King's defense and his defense he was
Speaker 1: a per he was, and and that's why I said,
Speaker 1: I don't know their relationship, you know, like like like
Speaker 1: me and Dustin, we have a little thing and it's
Speaker 1: innocent and it's fun naked eye to look whatever. So
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Perhaps that's that's their thing. I
Speaker 1: just felt that I thought of and listed. Maybe it
Speaker 1: made me uncomfortable.
Speaker 6: I don't know, but and that's fine for you to
Speaker 6: say that too.
Speaker 1: Si Vader did not say anything about this scene raindrops
Speaker 1: laying on the comments. But I don't think Padre has
Speaker 1: me in a comment about that particular moment he was.
Speaker 4: He was get asked wrong, no matter what her reaction
Speaker 4: was though her neck, he was And then he went
Speaker 4: and did it with someone else.
Speaker 3: It was like her and someone uh.
Speaker 7: Was like, yeah, you're my therapist.
Speaker 3: It was two women that he rolled up on and
Speaker 3: that really with her and someone else, who's the other one?
Speaker 3: He was like in their air, he was gross.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think he if he's a therapist, I don't.
Speaker 7: Here's the thing, discernment, right, The thing about being a
Speaker 7: therapist is it's one of the few jobs no matter
Speaker 7: how good you are, how you are socially is a
Speaker 7: direct correlation time, but you can be trusted professionally. One
Speaker 7: of those jobs where you actually cannot separate them. So
Speaker 7: I feel the itck deeply doing that. I would fight
Speaker 7: his nigga.
Speaker 3: That's right, Porscha.
Speaker 4: He was with her and porstch of shout out to
Speaker 4: you because you did check him a little bit like
Speaker 4: you was like and I like.
Speaker 7: Fight and Fadris Faun. They've always been fight versus fun
Speaker 7: those two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was just a little weird moment.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Porscha, though, Porsche and Sway had a conversation
Speaker 1: about the state of the relationship. What we saw last
Speaker 1: week Dustin but the Blast told Porscha that he's in
Speaker 1: love with her in this episode.
Speaker 7: How do you keep saying that? Carlos, he.
Speaker 5: Said, sitting up there looking at them Lego people with
Speaker 5: that drawing in Beard talking about talking about so I
Speaker 5: think I'm out with that sponsored by Please.
Speaker 6: He's probably a great person.
Speaker 1: But as a former client of Beijing Products, I will
Speaker 1: say that myself, Sway and Porsche a ive seen to
Speaker 1: update each other on the state of the relationship. I
Speaker 1: will say this, Ty Young is number one. Sway is
Speaker 1: a close number two. Sway to me, it's a fine, fine,
Speaker 1: fine woman. Before I move on as the only pant
Speaker 1: sexual on the panel, Blue, what did you think of
Speaker 1: Porsche and Sways dynamic?
Speaker 2: Because I know my girl, I don't.
Speaker 1: Care what anyone says, and we can disagree on this one,
Speaker 1: and we could. I will fight y'all on this.
Speaker 2: I know Porsche. Porsche is in love and in lust
Speaker 2: with Sway. And now this Way took off the glasses.
Speaker 2: I said, Oh Porsche, I get it.
Speaker 7: I mean it. I've been got it. Oh yeah, Look man,
Speaker 7: I've said this before. The right stud can digmatize you, right,
Speaker 7: So I just I have said it before. I know
Speaker 7: the markers of someone who knows what they're doing. Sway, No,
Speaker 7: she right, she pronounces just want to be respectful? Is
Speaker 7: that she pronounced? Y?
Speaker 6: Always says she when she no.
Speaker 7: Sway has that thing that would make you yeah, Sway
Speaker 7: has that thing that have you howling at the moon.
Speaker 7: And here's the thing someone who is swaggy in that way,
Speaker 7: who is secure, And it's called masculine center. Right, So
Speaker 7: you can be a woman and still be a queer
Speaker 7: woman and be centered in your masculinity. That happens all
Speaker 7: the time because they don't subscribe to the gender binary
Speaker 7: the same way. Sometimes, ironically, queer people are more secure
Speaker 7: in their masculinity than straight man and I hate it here,
Speaker 7: right and so I think Sway might be the man
Speaker 7: of her dreams, but is a woman. And I think
Speaker 7: there's something around being someone who is secure a masculinity
Speaker 7: and also secure with their queerness and not in the closet.
Speaker 7: And I saw Sway on my YouTube Sway got money.
Speaker 3: M h.
Speaker 6: I didn't realize swear was that rich money money.
Speaker 7: Hey in her mansion developing other wings. I said, oh,
Speaker 7: you got money money, And I've been informed by a
Speaker 7: little bird that you know porsia life people who are
Speaker 7: financially and fiscally responsible.
Speaker 3: Where would you get that from?
Speaker 2: Just birds?
Speaker 7: So and so Stray is fine, got money, secured the masculinity.
Speaker 7: I know she good with the sex. You see how
Speaker 7: she hold her hands. The hands are imported with the lesbians.
Speaker 7: So yeah, I porscha. I love this for you, child,
Speaker 7: And Sway got a cousin.
Speaker 1: I might tap back in, Oh okay, so Sway, if
Speaker 1: you're listening, if you have a gay cousin, oh my bad.
Speaker 1: At Blue Centric, Claudia Jordan did did Porsche finally find
Speaker 1: the one?
Speaker 4: When it comes to Sway, I'm sorry, I'm so distracted
Speaker 4: by your titties this whole show, Like every time you
Speaker 4: put your hands up.
Speaker 3: I see both aeros and it's like, yeah it did.
Speaker 7: Yes, our Carlos around they're red.
Speaker 3: Because it's local eggs and local eggs are brown.
Speaker 6: Is a motherfucking fool?
Speaker 7: Love me? What isn't the air tonight?
Speaker 2: I love it?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Ship swearing here Tuesday?
Speaker 4: Well, don't ask me about saying because that it was
Speaker 4: in my tagline and it didn't work out.
Speaker 7: It was it wasn't my choice.
Speaker 3: They made me say that ship. I didn't say that.
Speaker 3: I knew it was a set up.
Speaker 4: Anyways, Enough about that. So I think Sway wants to
Speaker 4: be there to stay. I think Sway is very much.
Speaker 4: I feel like Sway is when thousand.
Speaker 3: Percent in love. And I don't know. I'm not Porscha's friends,
Speaker 3: so I don't know how she talking. Man.
Speaker 4: You know, Carlos is convinced, but it could be lest
Speaker 4: In the beginning, lust feels just like love, or it
Speaker 4: could be love.
Speaker 7: We don't know.
Speaker 3: Time will tell on that. I hope it is love.
Speaker 4: They do seem the light up around each other. But
Speaker 4: I also feel like Porsche loves love. We've also felt
Speaker 4: that about I mean about Simon, you know what I
Speaker 4: mean Like, I also felt with him like they seem
Speaker 4: to have some chemistry when they were out, when she
Speaker 4: was had that man in them club at three o'clock
Speaker 4: in the morning.
Speaker 3: He was tired, he was past his bedtime. He's exhausted.
Speaker 7: Nah, what.
Speaker 6: What was you gonna call him?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we all heard it, Claudia, you know what the
Speaker 1: gaslight me on a live television.
Speaker 3: A celebrity lookalike?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 3: Who's his celebrity lookalike?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 6: They had said, yeah, oh wow, oh that's what they say.
Speaker 3: Why why why, that's how he was. We got the
Speaker 3: bad I fucked up the joke. Damn, damn, damn. Now
Speaker 3: there was a time that I remember seeing the you know,
Speaker 3: the clips. It was all over the internet. There was
Speaker 3: the clubs and they was beaming, smiling. The wedding, they
Speaker 3: both they it wasn't just him looking happy. They're both
Speaker 3: really happy. But I do think that there is something
Speaker 3: that seems.
Speaker 4: Very real about her and sway they do seem like
Speaker 4: they there is They're very very into each other. I
Speaker 4: I really do think that, and I hope for Sway's
Speaker 4: sake that Porch's series and it's not just lust and
Speaker 4: something different. But I think Porsche has been leaning towards
Speaker 4: us for a while, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 4: I hope it's real because I think they're adorable together.
Speaker 4: I think Sway comes off like the right amount of
Speaker 4: like confidence and cool and not like thirsty for a
Speaker 4: ten doesn't seem it does. I detect zero traces of
Speaker 4: using Porsche to get on. It does seem like very authentic,
Speaker 4: and for that, I hope it is for real, for real.
Speaker 4: It would be nice to see any of these relationships
Speaker 4: kind of like ride off into the sunset and be
Speaker 4: like they're forever, you know what I mean. Like I
Speaker 4: I love to see people that are happy, whether I
Speaker 4: friends or not. But I just love seeing black love
Speaker 4: and I think it'll be dope. And it also kind
Speaker 4: of takes a stigma off of the l in the
Speaker 4: in the community. You don't really see many representations of
Speaker 4: that on television. You really don't, you know, you really
Speaker 4: hardly ever see it. You see bisexual, but you made
Speaker 4: people on lesbian relationships and and in a place where
Speaker 4: it's not used for fodder for jokes, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, Like you don't.
Speaker 7: The boys so especially yeah, the.
Speaker 3: Boys the front and center of the girl. You never
Speaker 3: see lesbian relationships kind of being featured on any real show.
Speaker 2: And and Judy that's like the only one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if people still make fun of it and
Speaker 3: talk shit.
Speaker 4: But I think this could be one of the ones
Speaker 4: that kind of like kind of blaze kind of blaze
Speaker 4: the trail.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm happy for Porsche.
Speaker 5: She seems genuinely happy her and so like doing a
Speaker 5: thing they live in life and then making memories and
Speaker 5: Porscha's daughter look happy.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Dennis is a nice person, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I feel like they figured it out, and they're figuring
Speaker 5: it out, and I'm happy for Porsche. And I actually
Speaker 5: admired that in fact, that Porscha don't give a fuck.
Speaker 5: Porscha is going to chase her happiness until she secures it.
Speaker 5: And I actually think that's something that, in a healthy way,
Speaker 5: we could all do well to mimic. You know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like, focus on your happiness and chase that
Speaker 5: ship and don't give a fuck. With nobody say, I like,
Speaker 5: I'm happy about Porsche.
Speaker 2: Would you ever entertained?
Speaker 3: I like Dick too much? And I like a nice
Speaker 3: arm and a strong back, and I like I like
Speaker 3: I like Peenie.
Speaker 7: I like how ploral penises what penis is two or more?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm just not thinking of one particular one.
Speaker 7: So okay, I said that, friend.
Speaker 3: And then I like how it feels when it first
Speaker 3: goes inside you and it's new.
Speaker 2: At the beginning.
Speaker 1: You know what kind of.
Speaker 3: Any quiet for a second. I love where you go.
Speaker 3: I like that hold your sister right and you're like
Speaker 3: you're bracing for Oh, I love it.
Speaker 2: Not the model kicked one.
Speaker 7: I know this.
Speaker 3: I know this new bitch ain't trying me already, Jamie,
Speaker 3: you knew here. I know you ain't doing like that.
Speaker 4: We just didn't know each other. I know a new
Speaker 4: bitches not just take me off the screen. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: do to get you. You can have yours out and
Speaker 4: I can't go.
Speaker 2: Claudia, this is like fine, okay, Carlos.
Speaker 7: He said, first of all, this.
Speaker 3: You have, Jamie, I don't called you out your name
Speaker 3: and it wasn't even you.
Speaker 2: I agree with your Claudia me and Dustin Jamie, I
Speaker 2: love you.
Speaker 7: What do you think.
Speaker 2: I said? We agree with you. Me and Dustin like
Speaker 2: hearing that, so so.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm giving it. Shout up from the other side.
Speaker 6: That's me. I'm telling you like.
Speaker 7: I'm somewhere in the middle of l.
Speaker 2: Although this is not about black love the way Sway
Speaker 2: and Portia is, there's another lesson relationship that we got
Speaker 2: to get into, and that is Angela's daughter, Amari.
Speaker 1: What we all know is Angela Oakley and her daughter
Speaker 1: Mari am A so beautiful and so sweet. You can
Speaker 1: tell she's like a really good good girl. So sean
Speaker 1: love for raising such a smart, brilliant girl. They are
Speaker 1: having a family meeting. Charles Oakley is there, and what
Speaker 1: we learned is Angela said that when they eloped her
Speaker 1: daughter and the wife, that she never spoke to her
Speaker 1: daughter's wife about this. Then we learned from Charles that
Speaker 1: Angela feels left out because she is close to MARII
Speaker 1: and feels like she kept a secret for so long.
Speaker 1: Amari then facetimes her wife and.
Speaker 2: A lot of people on.
Speaker 1: Social media reacted because they did not expect a wife
Speaker 1: to not be black and were wondering if that had
Speaker 1: anything to do with the hurt that you see in
Speaker 1: Angela's eyes, which I don't think that. I think is
Speaker 1: what Charles said. I think that Angela is close to
Speaker 1: her daughter, and no mother wants to know that. I
Speaker 1: thought we were close, but we weren't close enough to
Speaker 1: where you did not inform me that this girl who
Speaker 1: you said was your friend and was cool with the
Speaker 1: family or siblings, is somebody that you ended up marrying.
Speaker 1: That's what I think of it. But Blue, were you
Speaker 1: surprised when you saw the revelation of who the wife was?
Speaker 2: And what do you think the real deal is?
Speaker 7: I was surprised, not in a neutral way. I just
Speaker 7: wasn't what I expected. I actually did expect more of
Speaker 7: like a Sway or someone black. I will say this,
Speaker 7: and I will shoot some belts of parents, even the
Speaker 7: most loving parent, when their child comes out, finds themselves
Speaker 7: having to mourn what they assumed their child's life would
Speaker 7: look like to make room for something else. I have
Speaker 7: a lot of clients with queer children who come to
Speaker 7: me who are very supportive but still have to mourn.
Speaker 7: So I think show aside. Can we just be for
Speaker 7: a second and say, any parent has to be like,
Speaker 7: this is not what I envisioned, and I have to
Speaker 7: warn all of that before I make space for what
Speaker 7: you're about to tell me next.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Also, in any relationship where you care about somebody finding
Speaker 7: out the entire time that you were not in on
Speaker 7: the joke and there was a premise that you didn't understand,
Speaker 7: it's still also jarring. Right, there's the morning the fact
Speaker 7: that what I thought for you is not going to happen.
Speaker 7: And also this entire time I was the only one
Speaker 7: who wasn't in on this. It is isolating, it is hurtful,
Speaker 7: and it's not homophobic to feel those feelings. And I
Speaker 7: think we sometimes act as if you're not doing cartwheels
Speaker 7: with a rainbow sticker on your ass, then you must
Speaker 7: be a homephed person. There are gay people who still
Speaker 7: have to figure out how to fight the internalized feelings
Speaker 7: around themselves about mourning. When I fell in love with
Speaker 7: a woman and thought I might end up with a
Speaker 7: woman I'm mourned having a traditional wedding, I was like,
Speaker 7: oh my god, if we do this, there are things
Speaker 7: that I am visioned for myself that I'm gonna have
Speaker 7: to revisit.
Speaker 2: So I was your mom cool when you came out, Like,
Speaker 2: did your mom have that same feeling? Like she still
Speaker 2: don't know. I just assume because your public figure.
Speaker 7: Okay, she don't they tell her that I'm funny. She don't.
Speaker 7: Oh my dad, look mother, My mother's only met I
Speaker 7: was in a serious relationship.
Speaker 2: I didn't mean an ore blude, Oh dare you.
Speaker 7: Well since we're here?
Speaker 2: Fuck it.
Speaker 7: No, she she met one girl who she thought was
Speaker 7: my friend. I was the daughter. She loved her, invited
Speaker 7: her on family vacations. When we broke up, she was like,
Speaker 7: why can't you keep any friends? She didn't know. She
Speaker 7: was just mean, wait, wait, no, no.
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not being funny.
Speaker 1: I now understand what Angela's going through because I think,
Speaker 1: so you get it, that's that's exactly.
Speaker 7: I was the daughter, So I get it. She loved
Speaker 7: my ex and treating her like a daughter and didn't
Speaker 7: know what we were hunching. And so what happened, I mean,
Speaker 7: it happens, right, I'm paying sexual for real. But what
Speaker 7: happens is though there is a grief that happens on
Speaker 7: both sides. And I have friends who have come out
Speaker 7: the reason why I hadn't come out though, is because
Speaker 7: right after that relationship, I ended the following with a
Speaker 7: guy who waste a lot of years of my life.
Speaker 7: And so that was I'm gonna say at that point
Speaker 7: because it was a nigga showing up, right. But I
Speaker 7: will say this. I love the fact that focused Carlos.
Speaker 2: I love the.
Speaker 7: Fact not you out of cat members we're speaking of
Speaker 7: hr that this. I look, Claudia is the journalist. You's
Speaker 7: second notes. Thank you, Claudi, Yeah, I got notes. I
Speaker 7: love the fact that Angela is like, look, I don't
Speaker 7: care how you get here, get here if you can.
Speaker 7: She's like, at this point, I just want my daughter back.
Speaker 7: I just want to feel close with you. Fuck what
Speaker 7: I thought? What I hope fun? How we messed up?
Speaker 7: How do we fixed this? To me, that's the best
Speaker 7: case scenario for this. So one thing I will say,
Speaker 7: I have not seen a single bad mother on the show.
Speaker 7: That's one thing. Can we all put that off limits?
Speaker 7: I know Mama's was a topic. Can we all admit
Speaker 7: that they're good mothers. I think they're all good guys.
Speaker 7: Me's daughter, I don't. I think they all are great matriarchs.
Speaker 7: And I think sometimes we have so much fun making
Speaker 7: them argue like little Barbie dolls, we forget that they're
Speaker 7: real people. So yes, Daughter, Yeah you too, Kelly. Okay,
Speaker 7: you two girls.
Speaker 2: On the A.
Speaker 4: I don't even know if it has anything as much
Speaker 4: to do with the sexuality, you know, her being lesbian
Speaker 4: or not. Have you ever had a friend right that
Speaker 4: you think is your best friend or a really close
Speaker 4: friend and they get married or they get into a
Speaker 4: relationship but they stop sharing stuff with you. It hurts
Speaker 4: like not being left out of something that's so important
Speaker 4: to someone that you love. So imagine being a mother
Speaker 4: on top of that. And yeah, also throwing the fact
Speaker 4: that you thought that she'd have a traditional marriage with
Speaker 4: a man and maybe he'd be grandkids and all that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I could see why she would be hurt. I could
Speaker 4: see both sides. And I also see why Daughter would
Speaker 4: feel like how bluefelt. Didn't want to disappoint the mom,
Speaker 4: and you know you don't want to you want to
Speaker 4: kind of keep it to yourself.
Speaker 3: I get it. So I like that we can see
Speaker 3: different family dynamics and different situations on these shows this season.
Speaker 4: I think that's what's up. I think it does a
Speaker 4: great service to a community. Once again, the lesbian community.
Speaker 4: You don't really get to see the ins and outs
Speaker 4: of that. We just really scratch the surface of gay
Speaker 4: men and how they are with their families.
Speaker 3: We're not even all.
Speaker 13: Over there yet, but we really never really hear anything
Speaker 13: about lesbians and like how they you know, that whole
Speaker 13: dynamic of disappointing in families mourning that their daughters will
Speaker 13: not give them most likely won't give them grandkids.
Speaker 3: So I thought it was a great I thought it
Speaker 3: was great that we saw that.
Speaker 5: Okay, so so yes, I think Angela Oakley is a
Speaker 5: great mom to her daughter, Amari.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. And I didn't get have
Speaker 6: a very very keen I got a hound dog nose
Speaker 6: when it comes to homophobia, you actually do you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I could sniff it out. So but I haven't had
Speaker 5: that feeling about Angela. In fact, it's been the opposite.
Speaker 5: And I now we're not gonna pretend like her daughter
Speaker 5: and her wife didn't look like them. We TV as
Speaker 5: love after lock up as couples.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: That that is you know, it did look like a
Speaker 5: life after lock up dass relationship. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I think that that may have getting Angela some of
Speaker 5: her pause. You know what I'm saying, Like her wife
Speaker 5: did look like we TV.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like it was very juvy energy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, very much.
Speaker 5: I could just see the two faces and that that
Speaker 5: fence from love after lock up.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. I'm married, Hawaii. I could
Speaker 6: just see it, you know.
Speaker 5: But then you know, a car scene, she was all
Speaker 5: in the phone and ship like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: just very love after lock up. But I did not
Speaker 5: get homophobic from Angela, and thank God for that. If anything,
Speaker 5: she's putting this shit, I think that is It's a
Speaker 5: very important.
Speaker 6: Journey.
Speaker 5: I hate using such a cliche term, but to share right,
Speaker 5: figuring out understanding and figuring out peace amongst a mother
Speaker 5: and daughter and queer daughter, and I think that that
Speaker 5: is something that's really brave for the show, both of
Speaker 5: them being here being from Chicago, and shit, y'all know
Speaker 5: how niggas from the Midwest are. I am niggas from
Speaker 5: the Midwest, you know what I'm saying, So y'all know
Speaker 5: how we are, and it's very hard. They are very
Speaker 5: they hold fast traditional gender roles and and and what
Speaker 5: you wanted for your kid whole time, your daughter's eating pussy.
Speaker 5: So you know what I'm saying. So you have to like,
Speaker 5: we have to wake up a little bit. And I'm
Speaker 5: glad that they are moving forward. It's good to see
Speaker 5: them finding that journey to peace. But that d wife
Speaker 5: and Amari, y'all know, damn well, it ain't even Amory.
Speaker 5: Because Amri is a beautiful girl. She looked just like her,
Speaker 5: Damn her pretty ass mama. She looked just like Angela.
Speaker 5: And I loved them also. I loved them doing that
Speaker 5: confessional together.
Speaker 6: I thought that was so dope.
Speaker 5: It made me I don't just felt like throwback Real
Speaker 5: House Whiles of Atlanta. But when they did her, when Amari.
Speaker 6: Held their phone, what she said, She's like, somebody wants
Speaker 6: to say hi to you. Some people want to say
Speaker 6: they miss you.
Speaker 5: She turned that phone around and all he's seen was
Speaker 5: that girl wife, her wife looking like we TV.
Speaker 6: That's what it looked like. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It wasn't extreme close up. It wasn't extreme close up.
Speaker 4: It was so you're saying that if the wife trying
Speaker 4: to like more swaggy, like a sway.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, I don't even think because Angela, she
Speaker 5: wasn't mistreating them. I just upon first glance, I.
Speaker 3: Know, I was a little like, do you think it
Speaker 3: looks like how someone looks has a little bit?
Speaker 6: I think what.
Speaker 3: If the wife like had a different look.
Speaker 4: That wasn't so we TV? Do you think it'd be
Speaker 4: will easily digested?
Speaker 5: No, because I'm just talking about me, really, my lands,
Speaker 5: are you talking about Angela?
Speaker 3: I know I'm trying to Hey, I'm just doing my job,
Speaker 3: trying to keep the show shady. It's been very shady tonight, Like.
Speaker 6: I need to move on.
Speaker 3: Okay, Carlos as nipples. We are in for a show.
Speaker 3: It's really Carls his fault, you.
Speaker 2: Know, really really really okay, che Michelle.
Speaker 7: Jesus and Whiskey, Carlos, Jesus and Whiskey.
Speaker 2: Ca Michelle Jesus and Whiskey and uh Kee.
Speaker 1: Michelle album is out I think in October, if I'm
Speaker 1: not mistaken.
Speaker 2: So look, they're at a party.
Speaker 1: The girls show up, Shamia brings receipts, and the receipts
Speaker 1: dustin our hoa finds for juice, Adurra bringing a horse
Speaker 1: with her rented friend that dressed up like jay Z
Speaker 1: from the Reasonable Doubt.
Speaker 2: Album cover, and the horse shited on the ground. The
Speaker 2: feet was over two thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Drew said, if you needed help PingER taxes Shamia, just
Speaker 1: say that Dustin, did you think that Shamia was out
Speaker 1: of bounds for bringing the hoa receipt for the horse
Speaker 1: that allegedly Drew rented to be surprised by this guy
Speaker 1: that used to date.
Speaker 2: A former Atlanta housewife allegedly.
Speaker 6: I know he looked like he and Juvie, don't he?
Speaker 5: Every time I say, I'm like, why does this niggas
Speaker 5: look like a miscreant? You know what I'm saying, Nigga
Speaker 5: looks wayward every time I see it. I don't know,
Speaker 5: you just look like a bad and you know what else,
Speaker 5: black don't crack. So that's probably why he looks.
Speaker 6: Young like that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: We just we don't age as fast. But it was
Speaker 5: typical housewivalry. Of course Smia would give that bit because
Speaker 5: I believe it was a real.
Speaker 6: Fine from her ho a.
Speaker 5: Everybody knows h oo A's are a pain in the ass,
Speaker 5: so you know they will do something like that.
Speaker 6: It just makes no sense.
Speaker 5: And of course she brought it to the show, as
Speaker 5: she should have. I thought it was just typical housewife
Speaker 5: y and it gave us a little scuttle butt, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: And that was it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Claudia.
Speaker 5: Y'all know, he looked like he latched key stop playing,
Speaker 5: y'all y'all know, damn yeah.
Speaker 7: He was. He was uh.
Speaker 3: He was hm hm hm.
Speaker 4: You know when you go to see your maybe your
Speaker 4: niece or your nephew in a school play and you
Speaker 4: know they can and you know they can't act, they
Speaker 4: can't sing, but you gotta be like, oh they could.
Speaker 4: It was that kind of jay Z I was. I
Speaker 4: was girl, drew you in danger?
Speaker 7: Girl? What is that?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 3: What was that?
Speaker 7: I I I I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: If that's jay Z, I'll keep saying that in what were.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna excuse my I'm gonna give myself
Speaker 4: a doctor's.
Speaker 7: Okay, just just back away, back away. Second. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4: But like a lot of things, I can't say because
Speaker 4: certain communities will come after me.
Speaker 2: Okay, leave it right there, Blue, thank you. Maybe you
Speaker 2: know what to do with. Claudia will come after me.
Speaker 2: I'm doing good, not nothing blue blue your thoughts?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 3: Nothing fit?
Speaker 7: Look man, mm hmm okay call you. I understand now,
Speaker 7: so you know right, we.
Speaker 3: Don't understand Claudia.
Speaker 7: That's the problem.
Speaker 6: Why you don't need to say nothing.
Speaker 3: You know what you get another girl? I got a
Speaker 3: mother like that horse got it. N I can't say that.
Speaker 3: I can't say that. But then you want me to talk.
Speaker 3: I don't know what you what you want?
Speaker 7: The community? God, you don't even know the word.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, we all what does it begin with?
Speaker 4: Go ahead, baby, Okay, I'll meeting myself.
Speaker 7: It's no fun.
Speaker 14: Look man, not everybody is able. And remember me different,
Speaker 14: Please remember me different. It's for super Chatz girlos Okay,
Speaker 14: So the.
Speaker 7: Last why would you have the autistic girl? Go last
Speaker 7: read the room, Carlos.
Speaker 3: Everyone's autistic. So we're no.
Speaker 7: I got diagnosed book me for a long time.
Speaker 3: I'm going back on mute.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I want to move on.
Speaker 7: I want to move on.
Speaker 2: So came.
Speaker 1: Michelle performed her new single Jesus and Whiskey, and she
Speaker 1: also performed her hit B S O.
Speaker 6: P I love.
Speaker 1: When she gave the mic to the the girls, the
Speaker 1: other girls are singing, yeah, Drew Sodor's turn juice adorous,
Speaker 1: like I don't know the words, and I love to
Speaker 1: see like Cay Mishelle, like Drew, I love you. It's
Speaker 1: all good, like whatever, And I thought all the girls
Speaker 1: had fun. But what happened in the end when all
Speaker 1: of a sudden.
Speaker 15: Which which it just it happened so fast where Drew
Speaker 15: and ky Michelle were exchanging pleasantries and like, you know,
Speaker 15: I love you, I love you to a good job.
Speaker 1: You know, we had our issue at the beginning, and
Speaker 1: then the thing of Black was brought up, and then
Speaker 1: Drew got out her phone to prove with the receipt
Speaker 1: that Cay Michelle was responding to Black somebody that she said,
Speaker 1: Kim Michelle acted like.
Speaker 2: You to know this person.
Speaker 1: Drew brought it back all the way to the season
Speaker 1: premiere and said, even at Porsche's house during her event,
Speaker 1: you saw Black on FaceTime and acknowledge him. So they
Speaker 1: get into it and Drew falls on the floor and
Speaker 1: baby ky Michelle was taken away by security. Claudia, what are.
Speaker 2: Her thoughts on all of this? Because it literally came
Speaker 2: out of nowhere.
Speaker 3: M there's a lot of crazy going on here, like
Speaker 3: you just never know what came to show. You just
Speaker 3: never know what you're gonna get. Like it's calm, that
Speaker 3: it's not that it's up, then it's not, it's down.
Speaker 4: And it's like I would never feel settled or able
Speaker 4: to relax because you just never know where it's gonna
Speaker 4: go right, And I'm like, do they cut something out?
Speaker 3: Did they cut something out?
Speaker 7: The Hennessy huh? Allegedly allegedly, I'm so sorry, go ahead,
Speaker 7: we need to wrap up. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3: I'm meeting myself because I'm so used to being silence
Speaker 3: on this platform.
Speaker 4: They when the light is green, I'm on when it
Speaker 4: goes red. Someone tried it, Okay, I'm gonna let you
Speaker 4: do this, Okay.
Speaker 3: So like they'd be saying I love you and stuff
Speaker 3: and then like a second later, like they've beyond ten.
Speaker 3: I'm like, what is this? What is the reason?
Speaker 4: Like I would be nervous, like always in that situation
Speaker 4: where you just never know what's gonna go left. I
Speaker 4: don't know why Black is so triggering for for kmashell,
Speaker 4: for both of them. Actually, why is he so triggering,
Speaker 4: Like they turn up over this dude that allegedly no
Speaker 4: one even messed with. You know what I'm saying, right,
Speaker 4: that's true, Like they really like Black is really a
Speaker 4: They need to go ahead and give him a half
Speaker 4: a peach or at at least a peach pit something
Speaker 4: because the way he is like able to activate, like
Speaker 4: they will be saying I love you, and then two
Speaker 4: it's like ten seconds later, black thing gets brought up,
Speaker 4: all held broke, loose, people falling on the ground, getting
Speaker 4: back up, people being vindicated.
Speaker 3: It's a lot, and I just don't know why, Like
Speaker 3: we need to dive deep into that next season.
Speaker 7: Well, I think the reunion that somebody mentioned, I think
Speaker 7: Andy's gonna mention his cases or whatever's pending. Here's the thing.
Speaker 7: I will tell Caelle some bail because I think for
Speaker 7: the most part I was on Drew side because k
Speaker 7: Michelle was, you know, shadow boxing. I kept on comparing
Speaker 7: her lady arguing to the empty chair on the train.
Speaker 7: It I lose it. No, But like this one time
Speaker 7: ca Michelle made sense because she said I was just
Speaker 7: being warm, Like when I see people, if I've even
Speaker 7: seen you in passing, I'm be like, hey, love and
Speaker 7: I'll like, that doesn't mean that we're close. And I
Speaker 7: think when ky Michelle said just because we were being
Speaker 7: warm this we were being close, a part of me
Speaker 7: was like, do we want to believe this? But then
Speaker 7: she said, hey, handsome, and then I was like, ooh,
Speaker 7: that that does feel a little bit off, came Michelle.
Speaker 7: I'd be wanting to root for her. I'm biased in
Speaker 7: her favor, but then she keeps talking, you know when
Speaker 7: you're rooting for somebody. And if they would just stop
Speaker 7: that sentence there, we could all agree that the fine, we'll, we'll,
Speaker 7: we'll take that sis.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know all about that.
Speaker 2: Relationship you're talking about, by the way blue, and then.
Speaker 7: They keep talking like okay, wow, I don't know we're
Speaker 7: gonna end up here. That's came a shot for me.
Speaker 7: All season. I've been so close to her that she
Speaker 7: gets stuck and I'm like, damn.
Speaker 6: First of all, came Michelle started it.
Speaker 5: She started, I'm talking about season one, season seventeen, episode one,
Speaker 5: the minute that they were on that not even episode one,
Speaker 5: but at the beginning of the season, when they were
Speaker 5: in Dallas I believe it was or yeah, they were
Speaker 5: in Dallas and they were in the Sprinter and when
Speaker 5: when the comment was first made, Cay Michelle started this
Speaker 5: shit about Black. She started, He's the person who created
Speaker 5: an issue over Black. We all were like, where is
Speaker 5: this vitriol and this energy coming from for her? Why
Speaker 5: is she so passionate and upset about this? And Drew
Speaker 5: it felt misplaced. None of it Land or that Yoda
Speaker 5: like yo like he who or whatever she was saying,
Speaker 5: all of that shit, it just all felt misplaced. And
Speaker 5: so Drew has been sitting this season the whole time
Speaker 5: like why is this girl on my ass like this?
Speaker 6: Why is she?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 6: Where is this coming from?
Speaker 5: And Drew defended herself and you can't get mad at
Speaker 5: her to me for pulling up a receipt that that
Speaker 5: that blatantly highlighted a lie that ca Michelle told because
Speaker 5: she do know who Black is and she did act
Speaker 5: familiar with Black when they was at Porsa's house on
Speaker 5: that phone, she acted like it was an old friend.
Speaker 6: Shout out to Phyllis Hymon. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: She acted like it was an old friend on that phone, Okay,
Speaker 5: And she acted very like everything I just said.
Speaker 2: I tried very familiar.
Speaker 5: She did get Drew for pulling the ship up at
Speaker 5: the finale. I don't matter when I get my lick back,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get you.
Speaker 2: And that's what it is, and that's fair.
Speaker 1: But the thing is this, I think there's a difference
Speaker 1: between I'm familiar with somebody and I know them, and
Speaker 1: I do think was a game of some mantics. I
Speaker 1: think Michelle was like, I'm aware of who he is. Listen,
Speaker 1: I'm aware of who Black is. It doesn't mean I
Speaker 1: know him Black because Tamar, I know Black because he
Speaker 1: sponsors ads on Shade Room for his his Because so
Speaker 1: I'm familiar with Black, I don't. I don't know Black, right,
Speaker 1: So I thought that came Mischelle was saying from that
Speaker 1: fascist point.
Speaker 2: Hey, look but I agree with you. You can't tell
Speaker 2: somebody went to bring receipts and and that's why for me,
Speaker 2: I will give Drew this. Drew was doing her job.
Speaker 1: It's a finale, and she knew finales are meant to
Speaker 1: be explosive and she wanted to prove her before the
Speaker 1: season ended. I am mad at Drew for it, right,
Speaker 1: I am mad that Drew slipped. I blame the culprit.
Speaker 1: I still would say, although doing her job, I do
Speaker 1: think Drew started it.
Speaker 5: No, wait, hold on, sister, because we got to get
Speaker 5: to the bottom of how do you I'm talking about Claudia.
Speaker 3: I'm talking to me talking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but remember Blue, I'm a messy queen. You remember,
Speaker 2: got it?
Speaker 6: Like, ah shit, The point is okay, See, the point
Speaker 6: is you know what I'm saying. The point is.
Speaker 2: Right right, daddy.
Speaker 5: It was like, yeah, Claudia, point is Cay Michelle was
Speaker 5: lying and she started fucking with Drew all season long.
Speaker 6: She been fucking with Drew out of nowhere. I'd have
Speaker 6: left field.
Speaker 5: It never saw resolved that all them pleasantries they were
Speaker 5: exchanging was being ky. Michelle was being fake as hell,
Speaker 5: talking about she loved you, Drew and all the other stuff,
Speaker 5: knowing she can't stand Drew. She talking about her singing,
Speaker 5: talking about personal things like how much how far she's
Speaker 5: gotten in her career and shit.
Speaker 6: When they're on the exact same show. So that never
Speaker 6: made sense to me. But talking about how far Drew
Speaker 6: didn't get in all this just horrible stuff that you
Speaker 6: can say to.
Speaker 5: Somebody who's pursuing the career in the arts. And Cay
Speaker 5: Michelle has crossed all kinds of lines of seriousness. Right,
Speaker 5: she's went into a territory that takes it from like, oh,
Speaker 5: let's just have a little band turn and go back
Speaker 5: and forth to now character assassinations, all that shit. So
Speaker 5: now drew wrong she was, she restarted and reignited the beef.
Speaker 6: No she didn't.
Speaker 5: She called out, came a shell like and by the way,
Speaker 5: you've been lying this whole time, because here go a
Speaker 5: text message back from February when you called this nigga handsome,
Speaker 5: which is specific and that means you laid your eyes
Speaker 5: on him and and and identified his beauty as an
Speaker 5: identifying marker in it, in who he is, you know him?
Speaker 5: You lying, you started it, It didn't go nowhere, and
Speaker 5: now we're left with these this this rubble and debris
Speaker 5: from a beef that never even was.
Speaker 6: And Drew then fell on the floor trying to prove, hey,
Speaker 6: you a damn liar.
Speaker 5: She went down, but when she came back up, she
Speaker 5: had that phone out and she had that message from February.
Speaker 6: Okay, she had that phone out that said, hey, handsome,
Speaker 6: thank you so much. And when came Michelle seen him,
Speaker 6: she got.
Speaker 7: Hey, good to see you.
Speaker 6: It's good to see you too, green suit, soig up
Speaker 6: like came and.
Speaker 4: I agree because in the beginning wasn't like when Drew
Speaker 4: mentioned him what's her name?
Speaker 7: Ca?
Speaker 4: Michelle was quick to be like she knew him, right,
Speaker 4: But then when Drew held a narrator and said you
Speaker 4: know him, then it was I don't know him.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, which is it?
Speaker 7: And maybe she mean biblically like I think because she
Speaker 7: acted the second time like it was like like there
Speaker 7: was sauce on it that I didn't understand, but she
Speaker 7: was hearing voices.
Speaker 3: But d you didn't say they smashed.
Speaker 2: She just said and.
Speaker 7: She's back on that train clubby.
Speaker 3: Drew did not say she smashed. I feel like Michelle,
Speaker 3: it was almost like a guilty conscience, like are you
Speaker 3: trying to.
Speaker 7: Say that nowhere?
Speaker 4: People were like and that made it weird if she
Speaker 4: just said you knew him. Listen, Atlanta is small, and yes,
Speaker 4: people do being dms and black.
Speaker 3: Listen.
Speaker 4: He sends people cases of those foot hookers all the time.
Speaker 4: He's like, they're they're really good.
Speaker 7: No, I've had one, but I was like a case, yeah,
Speaker 7: they're really.
Speaker 4: Like yeah, and so like I didn't see like, I
Speaker 4: feel like it was Kay that escalated that to make
Speaker 4: it a bigger deal. When Judn say, oh, we have
Speaker 4: something in common, we both shared a man, she just said, yeah,
Speaker 4: I know, you know, like you know him. And and
Speaker 4: the fact that Kay was pushing so hard against she
Speaker 4: didn't when she started off saying she did. I get
Speaker 4: why you would be frustrated, and it may seem petty
Speaker 4: to bring it up seventeen episodes later, but I would
Speaker 4: probably be the same way, like, Yo, the entire time,
Speaker 4: you try to make me like I'm tripping. You made
Speaker 4: this big fight with me in Dallas, because I remember
Speaker 4: getting the calls from Dallas like, Yo, some shit happened
Speaker 4: on set of the you know we all heard about that,
Speaker 4: right with Yeah, the blogs like that something went down,
Speaker 4: and then you watch them like damn, why did the
Speaker 4: estate so crazy over this? Like it got to where
Speaker 4: it looked like they was about to fight over knowing
Speaker 4: a guy and not knowing guy, and neither one of
Speaker 4: aren't even accusing each other of being physical and intimate
Speaker 4: or him getting the draw, So why is this such
Speaker 4: a big deal? That's why I think there's more to
Speaker 4: it that even if there wasn't it makes us think
Speaker 4: there is And kay, I think you handle it wrong
Speaker 4: by reacting like that, because now something in your celebrity
Speaker 4: mad people are gonna say they know you that don't
Speaker 4: even really know you like that. That happens every single
Speaker 4: day to anyone that's even mildly famous, never mind someone
Speaker 4: who was really famous. Right, So like her reaction did
Speaker 4: not really fit, Like I'm like, why would you tripple
Speaker 4: like that? You could be like, oh yeah, girl, you know,
Speaker 4: I mean people all the time they be my DM
Speaker 4: and it just got it seemed.
Speaker 3: Now it seems like I want to dig now when
Speaker 3: I didn't. I shouldn't. We shouldn't be thinking that.
Speaker 7: But Claudia, what about that scheme? Do you think that
Speaker 7: maybe whoever? And we're not gonna say it, Shamia, because
Speaker 7: you know this lost speculation. But the difference between the
Speaker 7: first episode, cause I like where this is going. You know,
Speaker 7: I love to me some dateline, So this is like
Speaker 7: we have a little thing on with the lines with
Speaker 7: the record. The only thing that's changed from the first
Speaker 7: episode where knowing him wasn't a problem. So the episode
Speaker 7: in Dallas were suddenly just mentioning him. I didn't talk.
Speaker 7: What's going on, like she freaked out. Was by the
Speaker 7: time Dallas happened, somebody, according to Kate, Michelle said there
Speaker 7: was a scheme against her. So now if you think
Speaker 7: there's a scheme against you, suddenly things that might have
Speaker 7: seen benign previously have you on edge? Do you think
Speaker 7: that the scheme To this day we still know who
Speaker 7: the health if it was k or the voices or somebody,
Speaker 7: We don't know who told her the scheme, right, But
Speaker 7: I do think the addition of the scheme storyline, whether
Speaker 7: it was true or not or in her imagination, suddenly
Speaker 7: makes it feel like everything you did was seen with
Speaker 7: a different lens. At that point, it was have you
Speaker 7: heard about the scheme?
Speaker 3: Po scheme? I think she told us how the scheme?
Speaker 7: Yikes?
Speaker 2: No, Like, I don't think. I don't think that.
Speaker 3: Explain what did you say? Okay, maybe maybe something will come.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely think somebody told her that a scheme
Speaker 1: was taking place. I definitely I don't think she made
Speaker 1: that up. But I do think I do think to
Speaker 1: Drew's point, and I will I will say this again.
Speaker 1: When came Michelle joined Atlanta House, while she was entering
Speaker 1: some thing that was new for her, and I do think, obviously,
Speaker 1: like anybody, you're pairing away, right, And I do believe that,
Speaker 1: perhaps to Blue's point that in her being new to
Speaker 1: see that this Black thing could have been something big.
Speaker 1: I definitely think, like Lewis saying, there could have been
Speaker 1: some thoughts in her mind, like are you trying.
Speaker 2: To add bodies to my situation? And I know that's
Speaker 2: a stretch, that's a stretch, but I think reality, like
Speaker 2: love and hip hop.
Speaker 1: Well you've been a love and hip hop, you do
Speaker 1: go into scenes thinking like when is the shoot on
Speaker 1: the draw?
Speaker 4: You have PTSD for sure, but here's my thing, Like again,
Speaker 4: my parfation with this cast once again is the same
Speaker 4: energy as not being kept for the same worst offenses,
Speaker 4: like this whole scheme about Black where no one's even
Speaker 4: accusing of him getting the draws right, But then there
Speaker 4: was Oystergate, right, and how quickly she is able to
Speaker 4: move on from that.
Speaker 3: But with Drew, it's an easy kill. It's an easy
Speaker 3: like tagging each other coming for her career saying she
Speaker 3: ain't shit.
Speaker 4: Listen, both ladies are talented in their own areas. Drew
Speaker 4: is a fantastic actor and she is a good singer
Speaker 4: ky Michelle. I don't know about her acting, but I
Speaker 4: can say she is a one I don't know because
Speaker 4: I don't have never seen her in acting, right, she
Speaker 4: is one a fantastic, exceptional singer.
Speaker 3: There no need for either of them to be dragging
Speaker 3: each other when it comes to town.
Speaker 6: Like they both agree.
Speaker 3: I thought those are very cheap shots being made and
Speaker 3: I don't think that shit was cute at all. And
Speaker 3: I think they need to stop, like knock that ship
Speaker 3: out because.
Speaker 4: I'm sick of I love you one scene than being
Speaker 4: a key a confessional gangster or saying stuff later and
Speaker 4: I just want to get everybody together.
Speaker 3: You don't it's given. It's like I don't know what
Speaker 3: to expect today tomorrow.
Speaker 7: Like I'm medicated, it's giving un meeticated a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to go.
Speaker 3: I think all these girls are insane.
Speaker 1: Well no, I and look, I will say that what
Speaker 1: we were able to see us the girls in me
Speaker 1: and take a picture. Like Claudia said earlier in the
Speaker 1: in the Live you know Angela asked me, are you
Speaker 1: in Portia good?
Speaker 2: And you know you could tell they wanted to get
Speaker 2: a moment. In the end, it fell flat.
Speaker 6: And look, that was that.
Speaker 2: But I will say this, bravo to the season eighteen cast.
Speaker 1: You know, this season, this season was talked about in
Speaker 1: the way that I haven't seen a very long time.
Speaker 1: It was really very entertaining and we all had a
Speaker 1: good time recapping it.
Speaker 7: So they drained me. Marlow Hampson shout out.
Speaker 2: So thank you you rain drops.
Speaker 1: I love you guys, I love you Claudia, welcome back, Dustin,
Speaker 1: I love you Blue, And I will see you guys
Speaker 1: next week.
Speaker 3: By you know, Joe