WEBVTT - Fall-ing Into the Finale | RHOA Recap with Dustin, Claudia & Blue 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:06.760 Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:10.239 I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:13.520 favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:17.360 and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:23.040 Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:27.680 Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:31.680 addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:40.920 scripted as well. It does bother me that we even 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:43.199 have to talk about this, but it also goes to 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:48.159 show you the dangerous side of social media. So ay, 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:51.959 and when I say this, I'm not dissing the outlet 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:56.440 or dissing this term, because that's not what it's about. 0:00:56.760 --> 0:01:00.200 But this blog posted an AI flow. 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:06.720 Stating that Niani Leaks was coming back to season eighteen 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:09.880 of the Real Housewives of Atlanta and that. 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:15.720 Shemiah was out. So what I saw right, So when 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:19.200 I saw this, not sure what the three of you did. 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:23.600 I kept scrolling to look at what my algorithm shows me, 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:28.080 which is anyway. So then I'm like, this is nothing right, 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:34.280 this is nothing true story. A few reality stars texted 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:36.199 me and said, is this true? 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:40.080 And my response was you got to be shitty. 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:44.160 Like you believe this, And they're like, well, you know 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:45.080 people are saying it. 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:46.720 I'm like, there's no credible source. 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:50.480 And then it literally became a news today to the 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:54.240 point where Andy Cohen had to go on his radio 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:59.160 show and say that he is pretty much fine with 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:02.920 the current cat as of season eighteen and that there 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:06.360 are no changes to the current cast of season eighteen. 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:12.480 TMZ reported that Nini Leeds did not receive a contract. 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:15.960 I did not think this was going to spread. No 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:19.400 pun intended to Dustin's Weekend, but I had no idea 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:22.600 this is going to spread, but instead it became like 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:23.480 big news. 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:24.440 But it made me. 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:28.800 Scared about that you can literally put out anything anything, 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:31.320 no matter no matter the source, but outlet how many. 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:35.160 Followers you have and it will create a story. 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:37.880 Claudia Jordan And when you first saw this story that 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:41.000 Nini Leagues was replaced in Shmia, did you buy this? 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:42.120 No. 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:45.919 They do this every year, and part of it is 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:47.880 wishful thinking from a lot of people that would love 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:50.280 to see Ni back on the show. That's understandable. But 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:53.160 this season, compared to last season, was so much more 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:56.400 together and fun and off the chain and better. They'd 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:58.679 be a damnful to stop this momentum. They need to 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:01.080 keep it exactly as it is, don't add, don't subtract 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:03.400 anybody from the show, and let anybody come back next 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:05.200 season and see what it is. We just finally getting 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:08.760 into her, getting comfortable. They're they're you know, getting up 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:10.880 from out from up under portion's shadow. 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:12.800 She's become her own housewife. 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:16.600 There's now beefs between the ladies that they had their 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:19.239 own issues with each other, some of them kind of 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:23.000 quite swiftly and kind of fake swept them on the 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:24.959 rug onder the carpet, and we kind of want to 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:26.880 see a little bit more of that next season. This 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:30.440 story there's now there's things that uh, storylines that follow now. 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:32.760 I think I think it'd be crazy to shake that 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:35.840 up again. And let's let this cook for a little while, 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:37.960 let it marinate, let it cook, let it cook. 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:43.600 Okay, Yeah, you know I'm old, so I'll come from 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:46.440 the school in the days of the Sun and and 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:49.160 the nationally inquirer and shit, you know what I'm saying. 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:50.040 All the stuff we. 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:52.680 Knew was bullshit, and we we knew that we could 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:57.160 separate that from actual, credible, legitimate media outlets that we 0:03:57.160 --> 0:03:59.840 could trust, right, But with the influx of the inner 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:03.720 and all the goddamn misinformation. It's I think it's funny 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:07.880 that I'm actually grateful that we can use this as 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:12.960 an example to show people the importance right of discernment 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:17.360 and of fact checking information, right, because this can actually 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:21.560 bleed over into some very real areas of our life 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:25.000 when it comes to information and misinformation and the difference 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:25.680 between the two. 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:27.799 So just use this as a lesson. 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:29.720 As much as we all would love to see Nieny 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:34.239 leaks back on The goddamn Housewives, it ain't happening next season, okay, 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:37.719 And we know that we have a flat out confirmation 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:41.360 from Andy Cohen on our hands. Let's let it go, 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:43.839 you know what I'm saying, And let's just leave it there. 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:46.840 I think that it's just something that people really want. 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:49.839 But I don't want to be dumb and gullible, you. 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:50.520 Know what I'm saying. 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:52.800 So because of that, my ego don't want me to 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.080 be that way. So when I read certain shit, I 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:58.840 look at where it's coming from, cross reference that I 0:04:58.960 --> 0:04:59.920 fact checking, and shit. 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:01.600 I don't want to see some shit like that and 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:04.080 oh a needy come back. You know what I'm saying. 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:06.920 I don't want to be like that, so I encourage 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:07.880 others to do the same. 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:10.920 Blue. 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:12.960 I agree with everything being said. I just think it's 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:20.520 so interesting how you choose my words unintelligent. The audience 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:22.640 is slowly becoming look at that, look at that mean 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:25.920 learning tactic. I don't even think it's misinformation. I think 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:30.239 it's disinformation for those Disinformation is intentionally telling a lie. 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:32.480 Misinformation means I made a mistake. I didn't check it. 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:35.160 Disinformation means I'm a harbinger of chaos, was putting out 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:39.320 bullshit to create more noise. And I think the reality 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:43.039 TV disinformation is actually the name of the game for 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:46.000 some reason that Andy's having the same cast, because even 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:50.039 angry rage bait engagement is still engagement, right, I tell 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:51.480 this show all the time. I think I was talking 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:53.560 to you calls. I said. Whenever I'm doing like a 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:55.840 Love Island review or Married at First Sight review, people 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:59.520 get mad at me. My income doubles like people getting 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:01.799 pissed at me literally puts to me another tax bracket. 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:03.919 And I hate that, by the way, I mean I like, 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:06.400 but I hate that that's the way that it's done, 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:09.120 because if you don't have integrity, what does that do 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:12.479 to your brain chemistry that you know that if you 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:15.280 get people mad, even if it's disinformation and a flat 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:17.880 out lie, you could pay your rent next week. So 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:20.080 I think we're entering into a sinister time where it's 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:23.200 no longer people are just stupid and trying to not 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:24.680 fact check because it's you know, a lot. I don't 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:27.160 care who tell it. I think folks are intentionally creating 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:29.720 rage bait because a life pays the bills. 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:34.880 And that is yeah, somebody needs to be I agree. 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:38.600 And no one ever apolgiz fake information. They don't ever say, 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:40.680 you know, they never want to like clean it up, 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:43.080 and if they do post uh when they have to, 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:47.840 like you know, fast up that they mess up. Small attraction, Yes, 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:51.000 thank you, No sleep too much, Houka and lemon pepper 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:56.360 wings this weekend, I was very ghetto. Yeah yeah, yeah, 0:06:56.520 --> 0:07:00.520 retraction that word. Uh, it's always so small. I'm like, 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:03.360 you know, it's really really small. They don't really make 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:04.960 a big deal out of it. They don't the same 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.560 blog as I've run with it. They never say my bad, 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:10.480 and that happens time and time again, we've all probably 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:12.760 been victims of that. They will run their mouth about 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:14.200 something and then when you clear it up with proof 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:17.720 and evidence, this is quiet in the creek, okay, and 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:19.320 no one's saying nothing about nothing. 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:21.440 No one want to even say, oh my bad nothing. 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:26.320 So yeah, yeah, And let's be clear, when or if 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:31.960 Lenithia Monique Johnston Leaks is returning to the Real Housewives 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:35.720 of Atlanta, it will not be an AI generated post 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:39.360 that reveals that. Okay, it will be a big deal 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:44.080 that will be embargoed until something else happens. And in 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:48.400 regards to Shamia, look love Shamia or hate her when 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:50.440 the concert season eighteen, to meya. 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:53.000 Is not going anywhere. 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:55.640 So I'm not sure if you guys are trying to 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.760 start this campaign to get rid of her. I'm not 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:02.440 here to say anything else outside of what they have said. 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:06.480 But all I will say is what Andy said. 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:10.720 Is what he said, Okay, So you know it also 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:13.400 goes to show you and it's what you guys are saying. 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.040 I'm happy with this cast. 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:21.920 I'm happy with that, and I do feel like I 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:25.400 do feel like if you guys really look. 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:27.280 At what's about to happen season eighteen. 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:31.800 We all should be celebrating that everyone is coming back like. 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:35.040 That's a big deal. It hasn't happened. 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:38.560 I can't tell you the last season where everybody came 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:43.160 back and nobody got let go demoted. Everybody's coming back 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:46.600 and everybody deserves to come back. And I'm looking forward 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:49.439 to what I'm seeing. And once again, if you did 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:51.839 not hear A Month and a Live, it is not 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:56.680 true because oh okay, because yeah, Month and I Live 0:08:56.840 --> 0:09:01.320 is a credible source. We are the TMZ of scripted television. 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:03.959 You haven't heard it here first. We will always eat 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:07.400 the sores, just like Claudia did when she revealed Pinky 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:08.040 was pregnant. 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:14.160 So Claudia, you can tell we don't rehearse. I'll never 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:15.959 be ready. Okay. 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:25.760 Oh, Laudia Jordan is mendicated once again because the Real Housewives. 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:30.920 So thank you, Blue. I'm loving here too, babe. 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:40.760 So the horse disappeared to the shrubs, so. 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:47.600 Claudia, Barbara Walters, Diane Swayer, Opra Gramm for Landa Watts, Jordan's. 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:51.040 She revealed exclusively on Month and Alive. 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:54.640 Thank you Claudia for bringing it home that somebody was pregnant. 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:56.359 On Atlanta Housewives. 0:09:56.960 --> 0:10:00.280 The first look of the reunion that's airing this they 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:05.040 drop it is not revealed that Pinky coll is pregnant 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:08.440 with her fourth baby. Claudia, what do you have to 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:11.199 say about that news besides. 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:13.880 Congratulations? 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.040 I already said what I needed to say, and bitch 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:21.640 is you're welcome. And for the record, I did not 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:25.320 say Pinky was pregnant. I said someone on the show 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:28.160 says that they are on the show. There's a big 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:30.839 difference between me blowing up the spot and saying who 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:33.320 if I said what I knew from the reunion team. 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:39.640 But you know, there's levels to intelligence and understanding and 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:41.880 common sense and I get it. 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:48.240 So again, when I Frank Graham was my editor. 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:52.160 At the Providence American newspaper back in nineteen ninety five, 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:53.559 nineteen ninety. 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:55.880 Six, Resident Frank Graham. 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:58.400 And he told me if we can't if we can't 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:00.800 prove it, we can't print it. And that has been 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:04.599 something that is my journalistic integrity have stayed. 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:08.600 A great slogan, Claudia, if you can't prove it, you 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:10.760 can't print it. 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:14.480 I mean, I just if y'all don't want me to 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:17.240 continue to give you all the truth. This level, I 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:21.320 can make my life way easier. But I serve you, 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:25.679 the people, the viewers, the person out there that just 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:27.839 wants to, you know, escape their real life and come 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:30.560 here get teached to everybody else's business. But when I 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:33.600 say it, it's a problem, I don't have to say 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:34.120 anything else. 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:37.600 If you can't prove it, you can print it on. 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:43.360 I would like to challenge the audience. I would like 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:48.280 to challenge the audience to please name one time that 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:49.679 I was wrong or I was lying. 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:58.960 I will drink way awful, awfully awful at. 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:05.119 The rage. Thoughts are gagging with the year ninety. 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:09.120 Pull out the nineteen hundreds for this, I said, not 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:10.000 the horse and buggy. 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:14.960 Now, listen, back in the day, we had to use 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:17.080 white out when we would type up on a type 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:22.000 run right out. I was one of the only female 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:25.880 journalists at the million Man March in nineteen ninety five 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:29.000 at our nation's capital, Brothers for days. 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:31.199 Yes, it was amazing, and. 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:33.880 Yes we used have to use water and type and 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:35.960 do our research with no Internet back. 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:41.719 Then, paper roll maps, yeah, rep quest, oh my god, quest. 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:45.240 Absolutely drunk. 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:47.599 I'm not drunk. I was drunk last night though, but 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:48.439 I ain't drunk today. 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:49.719 No lawyas good. 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:50.360 That's good. 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:52.760 So Dustin and Blue, What do you guys think about 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:54.559 Gankkey being pregnant? 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:57.880 And what were your thoughts on the reunion trailer? 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:00.880 Go ahead, boom I the. 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:04.280 Reunion trailer makes me excited for next season because it 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:07.160 feels like, like I said for the penn ultimate episode, k 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:10.280 Michelle said, I've arrived, like she finally came off of 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:12.600 being thought out right the came a show. I've seen 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:15.000 the the last two episodes and the Cay Michelle that 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:17.440 I saw in the preview. I'm excited for next season. 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:21.040 Andy is giddy. He is in Messy Bitch Heaven. It 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:24.560 is like he's squealing on the couch like I just 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:28.679 and also too because somebody refreshed my memory. Why is 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:33.760 it that Michelle is so mad at Drew still? I 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:37.080 don't understand why. Like every year, I'm confused about why 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.080 people are so mad at Drew, Like, explain to me, 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:44.360 like I'm five so many people at now and Drew's 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:47.920 the only person that she's still so angry. I'm just 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:50.160 so Claudia, do you know you have the tea? You're 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:52.720 the man on the street. Why is k Michelle still 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:54.079 so angry at Drew. 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:59.760 Specifically because they've all squashed their beasts with Portia. Uh huh, 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:01.360 and and you gotta have someone to be mad at, 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:02.720 and Drew is the easy target. 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:04.480 Like easy target. 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:06.440 It's like you know when you see a herd of 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:12.360 antelope crossing a river and there's a alligator right, an 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:14.160 alligator that's like, oh my god, I'm hungry. I haven't 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:16.400 eat in two weeks. They're gonna go for the one 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:19.360 that's lagging behind. That everyone's just kind of thinks is 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:21.280 a week link and they're not always the weekly. They 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:24.360 go after those those ankles and those Achilles hendons. They 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:27.600 think that Drew is the slow running antelope. 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:28.000 She's not. 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:28.880 She's not. 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:38.480 She's not stop, miss not gendering, miss miss speaking, she's. 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:41.280 Miss speaking her. She's not an. 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.160 Antelope that's slow, and you're gonna get her in the 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:45.480 creek once again, Clive the creek leave her. 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:52.080 Through a low Yeah, so yo. 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:54.320 They just think that, I think because like it don't 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:56.800 make sense, like cameras show and Drew will be doing 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:58.160 to see what they'll say, I love you, I love 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:00.680 your girl, And then five minutes later they read someone 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:02.360 it's like a mean ass comment or in. 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:08.960 A green spin like wait, what happened? I don't get it. 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:13.120 I'll say this in my in my opinion, in my opinion, 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:16.720 because we'll get to this later as we recap the finale. 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:19.560 So I'll just start by saying this and we'll finish 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:21.960 it later. I think. 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:27.200 I think drews a Door and Kay Michelle have both decided. 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:32.320 We like beeping with each other. I think, to me, 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:34.240 to me, and I'll get to this later. 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:38.800 Drew kind of started it, so I've made up my 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:43.880 mind that they are sort of our Kenya Portia. There's 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:49.600 sort of our remember Jazzy and Potomac and Okay, just 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:50.400 two women. 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:53.120 We'll get to it if we go into it. We're 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:57.600 gonna do what we're gonna do, because I definitely I'm 0:15:57.600 --> 0:15:59.520 gonna get you for that. When we talk about the show, 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:06.120 did that starting? We can't start no story in the middle. Well, 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:10.160 go ahead, go ahead, he did, We'll there went out there. 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:19.680 Yeah, I like, I love Yeah, let's go and the worst. 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:22.480 In the words of Claudia Jordan's Blue I'm gonna land 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:24.000 the plane in a second. 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:31.320 I love your lamp plans. But we'll get to that. 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:36.560 We'll get to that, Okay, Like Karen, well, well, Karen, honey, 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:39.440 they were actually friends, that's why they're different. 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:42.880 But talk about the junior trailer. 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:45.320 I will say this, I will say this and me 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:49.000 and that's will get into it later. I will say this, Brava, 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:53.120 brava to the season seventeen girls. 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.920 You ladies exemplified. 0:16:57.120 --> 0:17:03.240 All I mean all eight plus Cynthia right, it's it was, 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:08.879 it was. I was proud watching that trailer because for me, 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:13.679 it was the first time in a long time that 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:18.280 I felt everybody clocked in and everybody's meant to be there. 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:22.160 And and that's why it disturbed that you guys, not 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:23.160 not you guys. 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:28.119 That that that that that blog took a momentum of 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:33.120 us concentrating on the excellence that these ladies brought on 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:37.159 that reunion and try to make casting changes and what 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:38.360 I do want you guys. 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:39.760 To understand and listen. 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:42.280 I I will say this to the producers of Season 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:45.120 eighteen is you, which was. 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:45.560 The great thing. 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:48.000 By the way, you guys have a big challenge in 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.960 a great way because you get to be able to 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:55.320 take these different stories and and and do some amazing 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:58.160 television with it. I think there's so much pressure now 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:00.360 if I'm if I'm speaking honestly. 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:03.440 For the girls, because you guys have now. 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:06.640 Cultivated up a relationship, and I think now the work 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:10.520 is done to see like how can we appear next 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:15.560 season in our authentic selves with these new relationships. 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:18.640 So I'm I have no note for that re union. 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:20.840 I agree. 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:26.440 I think that, Like I said, the reunion trailer made 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:28.439 me excited to watch all three parts. 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:29.640 It didn't seem like there were going. 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:33.080 To be any like lulls or valleys in it. It 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:34.919 didn't seem like there was gonna be a lot of 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:37.119 filler and fluff. You can always tell based on the 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:41.320 trailer and that reunion everybody was quote unquote activated and 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:47.520 speaking up and offering opinions and continuing the conversation moving forward. 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:49.240 So I'm excited. It looked good. 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:53.639 Portie and Drew both made comments about k Michelle that 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:57.560 were nasty after cay Michelle made comings, so were nasty 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:00.119 about them. So listen, once the gloves are off, that 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:02.919 means we're gonna get some good ass television. And the 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:06.399 gloves were definitely often what we saw. So I'm excited 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:07.880 and everybody looked nice too. 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:11.080 Oh yeah, yeah yeah. 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:16.120 Look at her face. Hit on a gray. 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:18.960 I thought they all looked pretty well. 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:22.000 Mean you didn't like everything? What would you think. 0:19:23.800 --> 0:19:28.119 We like aism button? I look, man, choices were made 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:31.639 mm hmm, and it looked like the uh the stuff 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:33.719 that didn't use for wicked. For some of the outfits, 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:39.080 it was it was given. It was, it was given 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:43.440 yellow a nick road. It was hit or miss. There 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:46.080 was hits and ne were misses. So I cannot tell 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:48.200 a lie, but shout out to all the hits and 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:51.720 the rest of y'all know some of them looked crazy. 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:53.440 I'm sorry. I'm about break the fourth wall, I said, 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:55.080 calls a picture like cars? What the is this? 0:19:55.400 --> 0:20:04.800 And so I just this is the face one were bad? 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:06.080 Tell me I can say. 0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:09.840 I just I was you have a good poker face. 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:11.240 I was waiting for you to blue. 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:17.280 I am dragged by my Come on now, who didn't 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:17.720 look good? 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:21.040 Just one of the couches was touched by an angel. 0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:26.920 I didn't know what it's one, okay, like pregnancy, it's 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:27.600 just an outfit. 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:38.239 That's fashion show with no fashions. How dreadful. I was 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:41.720 visually insulted by Okay, okay. 0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:46.480 Can you tell us are you comfortable telling us at 0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:49.399 least what your favorite look was and what you're not 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:51.960 so favorite look was, only if you're comfortable. 0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:55.720 I'm comfortable saying that green is a pretty color. 0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:56.719 M hm. 0:20:56.840 --> 0:21:01.359 Okay, So the girls in green, I do remember saying, oh, 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:03.400 that's a nice shit of green against black skin. So 0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:06.679 the girls in green looked good. I'm just gonna say this, 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:09.600 I think every woman on the show is pretty. I 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:12.639 actually think every woman on the show is try I 0:21:12.680 --> 0:21:15.680 think some of them need to fire their makeup artists. 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:19.119 Because there was a drag hand. It was given drag 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:22.359 race more than Reunion of Housewives, and so the drag 0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:25.879 hand was a little bit heavy with some of the girls. 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:28.840 And as a girl who I'm a face queen. So 0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:30.880 when you're out for this costume and you're and you're 0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:33.160 blushed to your the back of your neck, I'm gonna 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:33.680 notice that. 0:21:34.280 --> 0:21:37.440 I'm gonna say that's not just in the reunion, because 0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:39.879 there was a few episodes where faces were a totally 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:40.800 differentult than the neck. 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:42.520 And if I say one of the names, y'all gonna 0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:43.000 say I'm hating. 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:44.919 But y'all can just like read between the lines, and 0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:46.000 I'm not talking about Porsche. 0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:47.560 She looked good. 0:21:47.680 --> 0:21:51.679 There's someone that is a repeat offender, like the last 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:56.520 three or four weeks where this and this is you 0:21:56.560 --> 0:21:58.720 can go with this that. 0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:01.040 Yeah, with that. 0:22:01.320 --> 0:22:03.880 I wish to get with this and not getting with that. 0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:09.160 All this mixed matching is not where it's at the 0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:10.480 New York Kransit line. 0:22:11.200 --> 0:22:12.560 Have to have me out hate being on want time 0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:14.480 the truth. I'm not. 0:22:14.600 --> 0:22:16.720 I'm gonna start leaving clues because I don't like the 0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:18.119 blunt and sometimes so. 0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:21.080 Y'all listen, go back at the last one. 0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:25.639 It was like a it was almost like maybe the 0:22:25.680 --> 0:22:28.040 makeup was from two different makeup bags, like maybe one 0:22:28.200 --> 0:22:30.040 was for like the day makeup and then one from 0:22:30.080 --> 0:22:30.920 the cadaver bag. 0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:33.399 Somebody didn't pay the invoice, Claudia, And that's how passive 0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:35.480 aggressive makeup artists do you You don't pay the invoice 0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:40.120 and she starts getting real sick around the cheeks. 0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:44.159 That was on the episode. I don't know what I 0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:45.720 gotta go in the reunion, so. 0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:46.399 But I was. 0:22:47.480 --> 0:22:51.919 I appreciate the ladies for the candid commentary. Dathin. I 0:22:51.960 --> 0:22:55.080 cannot talk about looks when it comes to we talk. 0:22:54.960 --> 0:22:57.399 About making the makeup. 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:01.920 Of God, but the makeup. 0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:06.320 Freedom Beat my face for the Bell Collective, for Union, 0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:10.840 and I was happy with his work. Yes, Freedom on 0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:15.200 the Beat, Yes Freedom or for Juice Door. I will 0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:18.080 say this, I'm gonna move on to Bell Collective, Juice 0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:18.480 of Dora. 0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:20.560 The way you. 0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:24.760 Look at the finale at Ky Michelle's listening party, keep 0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:30.800 that hair, makeup squad, whatever you have never looked bad. 0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:32.679 You're already a bad a bad ship you are. 0:23:33.400 --> 0:23:35.160 I think druse A Door is one of the most 0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:37.640 beautiful women of Bravos. 0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:40.040 She's always been very pretty. 0:23:40.080 --> 0:23:45.760 Yeah, drews Doors face in person is gorgeous. It's nothing 0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:49.040 to be played with. So the fact that your team drew, 0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:50.760 I don't know if it was Freedom of the Beat. 0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:51.200 I don't know. 0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:51.560 Child. 0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:54.520 All I can say to you is you at the 0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:56.760 fucking Caym Michelle listening party. 0:23:57.760 --> 0:23:58.280 Gorgeous. 0:23:58.800 --> 0:24:03.840 You almost turned me straight. You look that's good. Oh 0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:07.840 and y'all don't have a thing for Portia. I'm just saying, Drew, really. 0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:11.200 We haven't noticed his hearts look pretty falling and getting 0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:14.359 back up Drew, So it's aerodynamic. Whatever they did it 0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:18.480 down he came back up and you were still snatched anyways. 0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:27.840 Uh well, according to fans, I'm a flip flopper, but. 0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:28.879 I love. 0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:32.640 When it comes to high school of yours. 0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:35.679 A little bit. 0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:38.400 The only woman that could top me is thy Young 0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:39.800 and I believe it at that. 0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:46.800 Oh lord, well not the first. 0:24:47.640 --> 0:24:50.520 Oh we'll get to this latter sway, maybe number two. 0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:55.400 This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King. 0:24:55.920 --> 0:25:02.600 Let's get back into the show. Anyway. Let's the theaster 0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:04.639 finale of the Real Husmas of Atlanta. 0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:10.360 So the episode kicked off with Kym, Michelle, Pinky and Shamiya. 0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:16.320 They well, Pinky and Shamia with her daughters. They're talking about, 0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:20.359 you know, catching up those things. In this scene, Pinky 0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:23.280 did say that she does miss the light that Shamiya 0:25:24.359 --> 0:25:27.080 has and she misses Shamia having fun, just based on 0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:29.800 what happened in Scotland, based on what happened in the 0:25:29.920 --> 0:25:31.359 last episode. 0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:35.920 As Shamiya's Halloween party when she got into with Angela 0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:41.520 starting with you Blue, do you think that the spark that. 0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:47.800 Shamia had starting this season did it dissipate towards the 0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:50.440 end and it's Pinky picking up or something. 0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:54.680 Yeah, I'm gonna be honest even though we well, I 0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:56.800 won't be I want to speak French. I know that 0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:58.440 when the girls are having a moment a good moment, 0:25:58.520 --> 0:25:59.800 I clap. And when I think she is laying my 0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:04.119 said lame. I miss happy Shemiah, like I really do 0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:08.440 miss when Samiyah was giddy and frolicking and being fabulous 0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:11.120 and doing a whole stuff and having on running jokes 0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:13.600 like I missed that Samiyah. I love when came a 0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:16.160 show last episode said that I can see it's being dimmed. 0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:18.840 Pinky's picking up on it as well. I actually hope 0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:20.919 that what we're seeing on camera with the girls pointing 0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:23.640 that out, that they're being just if not more loving 0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:26.680 and compassionate and honest with her behind the scenes, because 0:26:26.680 --> 0:26:28.639 I want the old Shemiah back when we start next season. 0:26:29.160 --> 0:26:31.760 I really, really really do. The show is more fun 0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:34.439 when Shamia is having fun. I know ratings don't care 0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:36.240 if you're having fun, because even if they're beating you up, 0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:38.879 people are gonna hate watch. But I just as a viewer, 0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:42.440 actually enjoyed the show more when Shamia is having a 0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:45.080 good time. And even at that scene towards the end 0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:49.399 when they were talking about Andrew was saying, Shami, are 0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:51.399 you in Portia, Africa? And Porta's like, I'm good exactly 0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:53.680 where I am. I hope Shemiah mixed peace with that. 0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:56.720 I hope she just mixed peace with it and pivots. 0:26:56.960 --> 0:26:58.440 That's what I'm rooting for. So yeah, I think the 0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:00.600 girls were onto something, and I think I'm seeing a 0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:04.359 glimmer of her coming back out. I almost feel like, 0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:07.400 and I hate to say this, if there's a new 0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:10.760 person or a new tension that gets her attention off 0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:13.680 of Porsche, I think there's a likeness to anybody but 0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:16.120 Porscha fissing her off, that will bring back the old 0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:18.800 fun Shamir that we saw. It's like, let's say, you know, 0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:20.960 Pinky step on her toe something. I don't even care. This, 0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:24.200 the horse shot on her front porch, I don't care something, right. 0:27:24.680 --> 0:27:26.479 I think as long as it's not Porscha, we'll get 0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:28.000 the old Shamia back. So I'm hoping for that. 0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:30.320 Yeah, I stould agree with you. 0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:34.840 I definitely think por Shamiya, well we fell in love 0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:39.879 last season when she sort of was this honestly like 0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:42.960 last season, Shemia, at least in the first episode, right, guys, 0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:44.880 she was like the anchor, like she was the one 0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:47.639 that she was the one that literally told us like 0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:50.880 I'm friends with this person, that these preople are friends here. 0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:54.200 So Shamia was the anchor last season, at least in 0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:57.280 the beginning, and she did have this lightness and the 0:27:57.359 --> 0:27:58.600 Shamia that I know in real life. 0:27:58.600 --> 0:27:59.720 Samia is a fun woman. 0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:02.399 When I saw her at the Hawks game before the 0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:04.800 season started, I do remember asking her. 0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:07.359 That's why I feel comfortable sharing it. It's not a secret, but. 0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:10.760 I remember asking her, like how the season, and she 0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:13.000 made a face that made me realize it was a 0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:13.840 tough one for her. 0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:18.679 And even even then. 0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:22.520 Because she wrapped the show in an air, I saw something. 0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:28.840 The light wasn't off, but it was dimming. And anybody, right, Claudia, 0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:32.360 after you film reality show, the season may be over, 0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:36.359 but you're still filming the residue from it. My hope 0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:39.280 is that she does get back to enjoying herself. I 0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:41.760 agree with you, I agree with Pinky, I agree with 0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:47.720 Kim Michelle. I think that I do believe that Shmia 0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:51.200 finally get it, gets it. I think she gets it 0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:53.840 now the same way we all and I can say 0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:56.720 this candidly, the same way we all have said, Kim 0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:58.680 and show got it like she got it. 0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:01.000 She got it, and I ain't said. 0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:03.800 Yeah, it was like too other. 0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:06.840 It was like I have not said that episodes. 0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:08.760 It was too good episodes. 0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:15.120 Truly, well, yeah, too many BLO episodes. She was the 0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:15.640 last too. 0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:16.880 At least at least there's an up. 0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:19.560 And I mean the first fifteen was in the toilet. 0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:22.680 Come on, friend, any job where you do good the 0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:25.160 first two days and then you have twelve days of 0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:27.840 not good and then the last two your boss will 0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:29.080 be like, I know you fucking line. 0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:32.520 But that show she has the potential. 0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:35.000 She has it in her because she did it and 0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:37.760 we've always known that, which is hints to the disappointment 0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:39.080 right with the performance. 0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:41.800 But my bad, I ain't mean to step on your girls. 0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:43.880 Are holding out hop Yeah. 0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:50.240 I should a follow Blues mandate and not spoke French 0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:51.640 and said we I should have said. 0:29:53.520 --> 0:30:00.640 Yeah, we don't. 0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:06.560 Okay, Okay, God forbid the aries agreement with Carlo and Blue. 0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:24.600 So listen, here's the deal, k Michelle and I will 0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:27.280 go to bat for this. I said it. 0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:29.000 And one thing about me, y'all know, I don't change 0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:32.760 I feel I have said it from the beginning. Ky 0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:36.240 Michelle was used to another show that she was on 0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:41.280 for ten plus years. It's operatedly Clauda can attest to that, right, Claudia, 0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:47.120 you Dumbo shows. It is two extremely different productions, And 0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:49.400 I think she finally got it at the end. 0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:52.960 Whether or not it was too late, I think it's 0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:53.760 it's it's here. 0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:58.480 And I do see her now reunion trailer like, that's 0:30:58.480 --> 0:31:01.680 the That's the Chemist show I met two thousand and eleven, 0:31:01.880 --> 0:31:04.280 Like I was proud of her at the reunion trailer. 0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:08.920 So when it comes to Shamia, I do though Blue, 0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:14.320 I think Shemiah today. I think today she does not 0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:19.080 want to be friends with Porsche. I think she doesn't 0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:23.480 miss Porsche. I think she's accepted the reality. And I 0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:26.880 do see a lightnings. I was watching her two weeks 0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:31.560 ago on Watch What Happens Live? Who Shamiyah was on 0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:34.920 the On her last appearance on Watch What Happens Live? 0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:39.680 She was first of all gorgeous. She looked absolutely it was. 0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:44.719 Funny, she was funny, she was laughing, she had her 0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:46.720 the spark was back in her eyes. 0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:49.360 I'm telling y'all, I think Season eighteen could be one 0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:52.040 for the books. Because Samia's back. Shamia is back, and 0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:53.920 I think she's now saying fuck these hoes. 0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:56.600 Know, I know you're right. The day that Porscha sent 0:31:56.720 --> 0:32:00.360 that message on that tweet and I said, do you 0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:02.120 think Shmiah's gonna respond, you were like, of course she is. 0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:04.120 I was like, I hope she doesn't. And I didn't 0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:06.480 see her go ape shit the way y'all warned me. 0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:09.920 That felt like growth to me, Like that felt like 0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:12.440 she the old Shamiyah when she was in the trenches 0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:15.160 of feeling victimized. It would have been a back and forth, 0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:17.760 the whole melee nasty, you go lo, I go to hell. 0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:20.360 The fact that she had that restraint, that's what I've 0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:22.320 been wishing for this entire time, the little bit of 0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:25.160 the restraint that Pusha shown previously. I want Shmia to 0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:27.280 have it so that they're they're equals. Like it's not 0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:30.560 one person deregulated and the other person's strategic. I want 0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:33.680 two strategic girls who are now veterans, who have learned 0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:35.560 their hard knocks and who are here to play ball 0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:37.320 and catch a check. That's what I want to see next. 0:32:37.160 --> 0:32:37.680 Season from them. 0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:38.760 Yeah, so. 0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:45.120 I think that Shemiyah is getting a bad rap from everybody, right, 0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:48.040 because who the fuck? And I love Pinky, love Pinky, 0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:50.760 love her family, love her on a personal level, right, 0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:52.680 But as far as the show, who in the hell 0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:55.800 is Pinky to tell Shemiah that her light is damned? 0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:58.440 If I was Shemia, even though they're right it has damned, 0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:00.520 I would have cussed their ass out for saying some 0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:03.000 shit like that to me. You know what I'm saying, Like, 0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:03.959 what the fuck you mean? 0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:04.160 Yo? 0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:06.320 You better worry about jo Bob. You know what I'm 0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:10.040 saying stuff worrying about mine? So and that's the level 0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:12.920 of not giving a fuck. I want Shemiah to unlock, right. 0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:18.200 I think she's under what far more intense scrutiny than 0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:23.000 everybody else. I think everybody is monitoring Shemiah's behavior and 0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:25.600 what she does and doesn't do in a way that 0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:28.360 they're not monitoring. And take Porscha out of this, because 0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:31.480 I'm not talking about I'm not looking at Shemiah's experience 0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:34.640 versus Porscha's, I mean versus the rest of the cast. 0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:37.280 I think Shemia is getting a hard time right now, 0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:42.360 and I'll just leave it there. So I like the 0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:45.240 fact that she's speaking up for herself. I like the 0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:48.640 fact that next year, next season, like I believe, I 0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:51.920 agree with you, Carlos, season eighteen, we're gonna get something 0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:55.720 good because now these ladies are unlocking a level of 0:33:55.920 --> 0:34:01.760 transparency and of honesty right and and and blunt honest 0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:05.320 communication that is making for a thrilling watch. But I 0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:10.120 do believe that Shamiah is under more intense scrutiny than 0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:10.720 the rest. 0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:12.279 Of the ladies. And I don't know really what that's 0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:12.800 all about. 0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:17.240 Well, well, because she said the last night, go ahead, Brisia, baby, 0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:20.160 Brisia Webb, last night love that. 0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:24.560 I think you are. We are more than welcome to 0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:26.160 and bite you to join the four of us. 0:34:27.120 --> 0:34:28.640 Rista you you clocked it. 0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:33.399 So let me tell you watching this, this Shamiah has 0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:36.440 lost her light. And why where is the bubbly Shamida 0:34:36.480 --> 0:34:39.960 of yesteryear. I wish anyone would be in the position 0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:43.440 to be everyone's punching bag, whether you earned. 0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:43.560 It or not. 0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:46.319 Human nature is gonna make you shut down a little bit. 0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:48.279 You're not gonna be as bubbly because then. 0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:50.760 When she was bubbly, y'all was calling a corny y'all's 0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:53.080 calling herm notxious. She just irritates me. I don't know, 0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:55.160 she's just doing too much. She's doing too much. 0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:57.800 They all do too much in some regard, But for 0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:01.000 some reason I agree she is just on a different 0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:05.320 measuring sick or different ruler than everybody else. And I 0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:08.239 will say this when you really think about it. Every 0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:11.520 time someone has a scene with smiir they bring up 0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:15.440 Porsche to her. And Shemiah has tried on multiple occasions 0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:16.000 to say. 0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:17.719 I don't want to talk about her, I don't want 0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:19.239 to talk about her, but they keep bringing her up. 0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:21.560 And then when she does respond, oh, you can't stop 0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:23.640 keeping you got Porsche's name in your mouth. They don't 0:35:23.680 --> 0:35:26.200 do that to Porsche. Every single scene with Porsche they're 0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:27.040 allowed to talk about. 0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:29.239 Why do you think that? 0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:32.359 Well, first of all, she's she's not on the call 0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:35.200 sheet now, right, So there's that, and they have other 0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:35.959 things to talk about. 0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:37.320 They have other things they talk about. 0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:40.640 It's like a fuller friend experience with Porsche, right, They'll 0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:43.160 talk about kids, they'll talk about dating, they'll talk about life, 0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:46.480 they'll talk about everything else. But with Shemia, they only 0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:49.560 want to make her existence on the show be about Porsche. 0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:53.160 When she's over here trying to have a boy manage it, 0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:54.960 her marriage, failing out, our business. 0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:56.320 But that's still a storyline. 0:35:56.360 --> 0:35:58.200 There's other things they can ask her about, but they 0:35:58.360 --> 0:36:01.879 choose to always bring a Porsche. And I love Drew 0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:03.960 and I love Angela, but they do bring her up 0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:06.960 every time. And then, of course as I won't see 0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:09.840 inexperience because she's been around for a while. It's a 0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:13.800 huge difference. I need people to understand. He moongests difference 0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:16.719 from being a friend of the show than being main 0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:21.040 character housewife. It's two different experiences. A friend the show, 0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:22.719 you are a plus one. You only can do a 0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:25.600 scene when you the person you're attached to. You're the 0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:27.759 satellite of that person, right, The person you're attached to 0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:30.479 has their storyline and you chime in. It's never about 0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:32.560 your life. So when you're it's about you, it's different. 0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:36.280 It's just different, y'all. And so it's like an abuser 0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:39.879 whooping their wife's ass, right, an abusive husband and then 0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:41.560 being like, bitch, why don't you smile like you said 0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:44.839 when we first got together, and you're like, but there 0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:48.000 you go, complain it again. It's crazy to me, Like 0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:52.840 and again, I'm not saying sham is guilt free and innocent. 0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:56.000 She's done her stuff, but honestly, everyone on the show, 0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:58.320 we can find something where people got caught in lies, 0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:02.120 putting ten on twenty, not giving for multiple episodes and 0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:05.120 a manch of time, okay, Michelle Phaedra, and they're always 0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:09.120 forgiven for way worse offenses. I keep saying, what is 0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:10.719 the what do they hate her so much? 0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:11.160 Oh? 0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:13.560 Because she talked about her friends you with Porsche when 0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:16.520 all these people will do They've done so many things 0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:18.839 on the show and they've managed to somehow get over 0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:19.680 it right. 0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:22.960 And the plus one is probably why they in her 0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:25.040 mind because we said to the plus one and it 0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:27.440 dropped something. Do you do the fact that for so 0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:30.759 many years, the better part of her decade, Shamillah was 0:37:30.880 --> 0:37:35.320 seen as Porsche's friend. That's why people can see Porsche 0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:37.240 as a singular being but have a hard time seeing 0:37:37.560 --> 0:37:40.319 Shamia without taking a Porsche. Because I have a friend 0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:43.840 that I've reached to my friend group and they constantly 0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:47.480 bring me up around this person because I like, to them, 0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:50.640 that's Blue's friend, right, And I started saying, I want 0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:52.840 you all to text her without me. I want you 0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:55.400 all to talk to her without me. She's her own person. 0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:58.080 I don't want to be involved. I had to explicitly 0:37:58.120 --> 0:38:00.239 say it because it wasn't menacing. It was just like 0:38:00.600 --> 0:38:02.279 that's blue friend who brought her into the group. So 0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:04.719 I'm wondering, Yes, there's maneuvering, but do you think there's 0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:06.920 also a part of them that always thinks of Shemiah 0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:10.839 as Porscha's plus one, And now that they've fallen out, 0:38:10.920 --> 0:38:13.200 maybe next season it'll be easy to see them as 0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:15.200 through separate beings because the thought was so heavy. 0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:18.040 Maybe, And let me just say, I think Shemia, you know, 0:38:18.360 --> 0:38:22.680 on one regard she's called she's accused of being Porscha's representative, 0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:26.680 lap dog, dick rider, all these things, but then also 0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:29.040 being a hater. You can't be two things at once. 0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:31.520 I'm sorry with this. I think she went so hard 0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:33.640 for her friend. She put her own feeling to the back, 0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:36.000 and let herself get clowned by her in other years, 0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:38.560 and forgave stuff that she shouldn't have forgiven her four 0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:41.160 years ago, and overlooked things because I think Shemiah had 0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:42.480 a lower self esteem than Porsche. 0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:45.040 I really do think that too. I agree and I 0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:47.480 think you have friends. We can tell one can like 0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:49.480 get away with a lot of stuff that the other 0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:50.960 one would not be able to get away with. Like 0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:54.160 when they remember Porsha and Shmi. 0:38:54.000 --> 0:38:56.560 Were at a lunch or something, met up and Shami 0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:58.719 was trying to express herself how she felt about something, 0:38:59.040 --> 0:39:01.120 and the way that she was just like, are you done? 0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:04.080 Like it was not even considering her friend's feelings. It 0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:07.080 showed such an imbalance and that relationship and that happens, 0:39:07.320 --> 0:39:10.360 and Shamiah Levy, girl, but that was your bad for 0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:12.799 letting someone disrespect you for all the for way too 0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:15.520 long and seeing you as a be character when you 0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:18.840 saw yourself as finally like, oh we're we in this together. 0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:21.279 I would like nothing else. A secure person will like 0:39:21.320 --> 0:39:22.960 nothing else in their bestie to come on the show. 0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:25.840 You'll imagine you're like someone that you really rock with 0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:27.799 and you love. Were gonna run these girl were gonna 0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:30.239 run circles together. Only one of them thought that, and 0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:33.080 that was Shamiyah. Porchia was like, hmmm, not too much 0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:35.160 on my job, not too much on my situation. But 0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:37.560 it's not Porscha's show. She's not the executive producer She's 0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:39.680 not any common and she's not Bravo, so you can't 0:39:39.719 --> 0:39:40.239 dictate that. 0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:42.520 You may feel a way, but I don't know. 0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:45.480 I think that people are being unrealistic and what they 0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:48.239 expected from Shamiyah to take the beats and the hits, 0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:52.560 whether earned or not, and also have the audacity to 0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:54.799 not be chipper. I would be chipper either. I would 0:39:54.840 --> 0:39:57.359 not be chippy being ignored by someone I still probably love. 0:39:57.440 --> 0:40:00.600 I'm still hurt by that. Shit hurts, It hurts. It's uncomfortable. 0:40:01.239 --> 0:40:04.160 Yeah, and I want to say congratulations to her and 0:40:04.280 --> 0:40:10.719 Geryl for the Sarah GETSI there as of I think 0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:11.759 they said it was three months. 0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:17.160 Yeah, anything, that's wonderful news. 0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:19.959 That means okay, that means that we know the stork 0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:20.319 is coming. 0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:23.440 If Claudia can't say anywhere, wonderful yeah yeah. 0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:26.600 So shout out to Gerald and Shamia. They are expecting. 0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:30.400 So that that's great news and I can't wait to 0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:34.360 see it. And not so great news, Drew. SOI doorra 0:40:34.560 --> 0:40:37.960 shot a Seama her mother, and she's looking for a 0:40:38.040 --> 0:40:42.120 new house. The house is one point three million, it 0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:46.800 is over seven thousand square foot, have six bedrooms, and 0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:51.800 she's looking for a new home because as we know 0:40:52.000 --> 0:40:54.359 now right, so at the time of filming, they were 0:40:54.400 --> 0:40:56.279 getting ready to go to court. What we do know 0:40:56.480 --> 0:40:59.920 as of now, as of today, although it could be contested, 0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:04.160 but as of now wrap allegedly it but is in 0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:09.920 the document, was awarded full primary custody of the kids 0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:15.879 and he also gets to keep the house and Drew 0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:19.719 has to move out. So in this theme, which was 0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:23.319 so it was so sad because look, I have been 0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:25.480 hard on Shemia her first couple of seasons. I told 0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:28.040 Shemia to her not Shemia, I'm sorry. I've been hard 0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:31.120 on Drew her first couple of seasons. I've told Drew 0:41:31.200 --> 0:41:33.920 to her face. It was giving me Tala Perry tes 0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:37.560 some of the acting and the production her rap did. 0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:40.200 She swore up and down to me, she said, Carlos, 0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:42.680 I think that's hilarious. It was real, like I promise 0:41:42.719 --> 0:41:45.520 she was real. I will say this was the realest 0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:49.399 scene I've ever seen from Juice Dora. I honestly felt 0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:51.520 bad for her as she was breaking down crying to 0:41:51.600 --> 0:41:55.040 her mom because in this moment she is talking about 0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:58.880 how Ralph does want full custody of the kids, starting 0:41:58.920 --> 0:42:03.080 with you Blue do you think, Look what we have 0:42:03.320 --> 0:42:06.600 seen the core documents was that allegedly, you. 0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:08.120 Know, rap said that. 0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:14.520 The kids were missing a lot of school, a lot 0:42:14.680 --> 0:42:19.480 of school in addition to some other things, he did 0:42:19.560 --> 0:42:24.759 get awarded full custody. As of now, what are your 0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:30.439 thoughts on that, because the thing is it's not every 0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:34.960 day that a mother gives rebuilt her rights of primary custody. 0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:38.040 Yeah, I have a lot of questions, I hope. I 0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:40.520 don't know if we know somebody who's read over the 0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:44.279 entire transcript of what happened in court. I know, number one, 0:42:44.320 --> 0:42:46.879 they usually side with the mother, so it is really 0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:49.880 rare in extenuating circumstances for them to side with the husband. 0:42:50.120 --> 0:42:52.200 But my first question was if the kids are missing school, 0:42:52.200 --> 0:42:53.759 you in the basement, why is that not your fault too? 0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:58.359 So I had confusion around that also to I will 0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:03.800 say this, being a visible public figure who is perceived 0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:08.359 to be a celebrity or a somebody who's well known 0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:11.480 as a woman is the same thing as being a man. Unfortunately, 0:43:11.560 --> 0:43:14.440 in the eyes of many, like women who are considered 0:43:14.520 --> 0:43:18.280 boss babes are seen like absene fathers because the assumption 0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:20.200 is you can't have at all. And since you want 0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:22.040 to be a boss baby, couldn't possibly also be a 0:43:22.080 --> 0:43:24.680 good mother. I've always thought that was a really unfair 0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:26.239 thing to do, because we don't do it to men 0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:28.080 when they're good fathers. Like if a man's a good father, 0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:30.040 if he just like pushes a bike, we all want 0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:33.080 a clap for him. So I was sad when she 0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:36.759 said that he was weaponizing her actual career against her 0:43:37.400 --> 0:43:40.319 as a way to stack the deck. And because they're 0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:45.520 in Georgia, where savvy around entertainment, you would think, but 0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:47.759 places like Georgia are very conservative when it comes to 0:43:47.920 --> 0:43:51.120 family law. Don't mistake the fact that Atlanta is seen 0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:53.360 as a hub for entertainment for the judicial system. The 0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:57.120 judicial is actually incredibly conservative at times in Georgia. And 0:43:57.239 --> 0:43:59.839 if he was speaking like, look, I make good money. 0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:02.600 She's always running around in lays front and on yachts 0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:05.040 and going to different things with a camera crew. I 0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:07.040 can see how an old school judge who doesn't have 0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:10.759 any cultural competency would be swayed by the picture that 0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:13.960 he drew, even though we know better. And I hate that. 0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:16.440 And one thing that she said that broke my heart is, 0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:18.560 how do you think it feels to know that the 0:44:18.680 --> 0:44:20.440 man that you tried to do life with thinks you're 0:44:20.440 --> 0:44:24.719 a bad mother. That like, I really almost cried when 0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:27.880 she said that. And so I think of everybody that 0:44:27.960 --> 0:44:31.520 we've seen this season. I know it's funny to say, Pink, 0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:33.440 you do something more than work. And I know we 0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:35.520 all have strong emotions about what's happening with Shin, me 0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:37.799 and Portie. I think silently, the person who's been going 0:44:37.840 --> 0:44:40.560 through the most of the season is actually Drewe and 0:44:41.080 --> 0:44:42.080 it actually breaks my heart. 0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:44.399 And what I do want to say, I'm gonna get 0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:45.960 to you next, Dustin. What I do want to do 0:44:46.160 --> 0:44:48.640 is read what reportedly. 0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:55.200 Has been awarded to rap So Druse Door temporarily lost 0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:59.799 primary physical custody of her two children the court ling 0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:04.040 in April of this year. The temporary change occurred during 0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:09.480 their ongoing divorce proceedings. A judge awarded Wrap primary physical 0:45:09.560 --> 0:45:13.400 custody during the school year after claims were raised regarding 0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:18.239 excessive school absences and tardiness while the children were induced care. 0:45:18.800 --> 0:45:22.960 Both parents continue to share joint legal custody of the children. 0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:29.480 Drew was granted parenting time on alternating weekends, and the 0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:33.600 Representatives for Drew emphasized that the ruling was part of 0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:39.920 an interim temporary order and not a final, permanent custody decision. 0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:44.320 Because of that, though, as of now, that same order has. 0:45:44.280 --> 0:45:49.480 Instructed Drew to vacate the home, and Drew defile court 0:45:49.600 --> 0:45:55.560 documents expressing excuse me concern over the timeline and financial strain, 0:45:55.920 --> 0:46:00.080 noting that the ongoing litigation was still moving. 0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:06.080 Through the child support arrangements. So that's the latest. But 0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:07.560 that's some of your thoughts on it. 0:46:07.600 --> 0:46:09.960 I mean, look, a lot of people have said that 0:46:10.120 --> 0:46:12.120 Ralph's the bad guy and all of this because of 0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:14.239 what man would do it to a woman. There are 0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:17.279 some people also who have said, look, if what they're 0:46:17.280 --> 0:46:20.200 reading is true, Ralph has every right as the father 0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:24.239 to invoke something if it relates to the childcare of 0:46:24.320 --> 0:46:25.440 his children going to school. 0:46:26.320 --> 0:46:26.520 Yeah. 0:46:26.760 --> 0:46:29.360 Well, I don't have no damn kids, but I know 0:46:29.440 --> 0:46:31.160 one of the worst things you can do is call 0:46:31.280 --> 0:46:35.719 someone with kids a bad parent, especially in this patriarchal 0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:38.440 ass society we live in. It's even worse for women, 0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:40.319 you know what I'm saying. If you call a woman 0:46:40.400 --> 0:46:44.520 a bad mother, that's worse than probably anything that you 0:46:44.600 --> 0:46:47.360 can use to insult them right in their character, and 0:46:47.520 --> 0:46:52.600 so it is rare that you see a father paint 0:46:52.680 --> 0:46:54.520 a mom out to be a bad mother when you 0:46:54.680 --> 0:46:56.879 haven't seen I mean, we only get a glimpse into 0:46:56.920 --> 0:46:59.880 their personal life, right, but we've seen you be adoting 0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:03.680 attentive mother to her children on camera multiple times, even 0:47:03.719 --> 0:47:05.480 when they've been on trips. We've seen her make sure 0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:11.080 she's face timing, bringing up specific occurrences that are happening 0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:13.680 in the children's lives. So we haven't seen her be 0:47:13.760 --> 0:47:16.239 a bad mom. So it's kind of jarring to hear that. 0:47:17.160 --> 0:47:19.680 But those kids need to go to school. And if 0:47:19.719 --> 0:47:22.520 the kids had excessive absences and relph is in a 0:47:22.600 --> 0:47:26.560 better position and make sure that they are not truant, right, 0:47:27.080 --> 0:47:30.440 then great, maybe that's where they need to go, you know, 0:47:30.560 --> 0:47:32.640 eat breakfast and go to school in the morning. From 0:47:33.160 --> 0:47:36.279 But attacking her motherhood is something that I'm sure is 0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:39.160 devastating to her on a personal and emotional level in 0:47:39.239 --> 0:47:42.759 ways that I can't comprehend. So it's kind of like 0:47:42.840 --> 0:47:45.239 a final blow when it comes to going back and 0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:48.160 forth or trying to take a jab at somebody. I 0:47:48.200 --> 0:47:52.399 don't really know what motivated Ralph beyond what we've ascertained 0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:56.160 from the court documents about the children missing days of school. 0:47:56.800 --> 0:48:01.440 I'm not sure what motivated him to that boundary, across 0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:04.040 that line with her when it comes to them being 0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:07.640 combative with one another. I'm not sure what motivated him 0:48:07.680 --> 0:48:09.759 to go that far to paint her as a bad mom. 0:48:10.440 --> 0:48:14.760 So I just wish peace for their children. The children 0:48:14.840 --> 0:48:18.040 have always appeared to be well taken care of, well adjusted, 0:48:19.120 --> 0:48:23.440 bright personalities, So I hope what I hope the children 0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:27.840 get the best outcome. And like I said, that's crossing 0:48:27.920 --> 0:48:32.000 the line for sure, So hopefully masculated. 0:48:31.640 --> 0:48:33.800 Dustin't because you know what men feel masculated, They suddenly 0:48:33.800 --> 0:48:36.479 they get real nasty. I'm wondering if I was thinking 0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:39.200 that calling them with a bad mother is like the 0:48:39.280 --> 0:48:41.200 feminine equivalent to masculating a. 0:48:41.200 --> 0:48:42.359 Man mm hm. 0:48:42.840 --> 0:48:44.520 And so it's almost like there were so many jokes 0:48:44.520 --> 0:48:45.719 about him being emasculated. 0:48:45.760 --> 0:48:48.160 It almost in the basement and not working and shit, 0:48:48.320 --> 0:48:49.720 and look back. 0:48:49.640 --> 0:48:51.320 To like, yeah, well you're gonna attack my manhood. I 0:48:51.360 --> 0:48:53.359 want to attack your womanhood. That's nasty work. If that's 0:48:53.360 --> 0:48:54.880 what's happening in legislation. 0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:58.239 Yeah, well one thing, but even with that, right, Because 0:48:58.239 --> 0:49:01.120 when you think back to like season fifteen, when Drew 0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:06.279 was on the reunion and she was acting aloof to 0:49:06.400 --> 0:49:08.680 kind of like summ of Ralph's tactics or whatever, and 0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:10.279 she was saying how he had beat the I R. S. 0:49:10.719 --> 0:49:15.080 Drew never painted Ralph as shiftless and unemployed, right, I 0:49:15.120 --> 0:49:18.360 don't remember remember her doing that. If anything, I remember 0:49:18.400 --> 0:49:22.480 her painting him as cunning and strategic and you know, 0:49:23.280 --> 0:49:26.919 a person who would go the extra mile through work 0:49:27.000 --> 0:49:30.160 related means to get things done. She painted him as 0:49:30.200 --> 0:49:34.400 a high earner. So it's just it's odd to me. 0:49:34.480 --> 0:49:38.440 I do think that the two character assassinations are akin 0:49:38.520 --> 0:49:43.160 to one another, right, But yeah, that's just a lot 0:49:43.239 --> 0:49:44.840 to me to say, your kids, Mama, don't give a 0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:45.600 fuck about him. 0:49:46.280 --> 0:49:46.640 I don't know. 0:49:50.239 --> 0:49:52.920 It's hard to know the real with these cases. 0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:55.879 And if you all have friends that are going through 0:49:55.960 --> 0:49:58.960 like a nasty, custy battle with their ex, whether they're 0:49:58.960 --> 0:50:02.600 not on good terms one partners mad that it didn't. 0:50:02.360 --> 0:50:03.839 Work out or whatever their issues are. 0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:07.360 There's so many ways to weaponize the system, especially in 0:50:07.520 --> 0:50:11.759 the South. My eyes have been so open living down 0:50:11.840 --> 0:50:12.520 here in Texas. 0:50:12.560 --> 0:50:13.440 Well, I'm in Rhode Island now. 0:50:13.520 --> 0:50:17.040 But when I was living in Texas, living in Georgia, 0:50:17.120 --> 0:50:19.720 and I have friends in Florida going through like nasty 0:50:19.840 --> 0:50:23.760 Cussey battles, and the ways that they lean towards the fathers. 0:50:24.120 --> 0:50:25.800 You would think it'd be towards the mothers, it's not. 0:50:26.640 --> 0:50:28.480 And they do, like Blue said, they are very really 0:50:28.520 --> 0:50:31.400 conservative judges. And a lot of times the female judges 0:50:31.400 --> 0:50:33.359 are even worse than the men because they don't want 0:50:33.360 --> 0:50:34.920 to do what they can ad buy it to the mothers. 0:50:34.960 --> 0:50:36.520 And a lot of times they're a lot hotter on 0:50:36.600 --> 0:50:38.400 the mothers than they are on the fathers. When a 0:50:38.440 --> 0:50:41.799 father misses appointment after appointment, have to pick up after 0:50:41.840 --> 0:50:44.200 pick up at the date, and says I had to work, 0:50:44.440 --> 0:50:46.520 and then when he does the minimum, it's well, he's 0:50:46.560 --> 0:50:50.160 trying to be a good dad. And then when a 0:50:50.280 --> 0:50:52.880 mom is trying to balance motherhood and having an actual 0:50:52.960 --> 0:50:55.480 career and working and not just leaching out this man, 0:50:55.880 --> 0:50:58.520 you know, she's unfit. She's not prioritizing her children because 0:50:58.520 --> 0:51:01.680 they still have his idea in America, in the world 0:51:02.120 --> 0:51:04.960 that a woman's first and only priority should be the 0:51:05.080 --> 0:51:06.839 children and work is work. 0:51:07.000 --> 0:51:08.839 Goals be damned. I mean look out. 0:51:08.960 --> 0:51:11.640 They dragged Ice of Curry for having the audacity to say, 0:51:12.120 --> 0:51:14.880 sometimes I just happen to wonder what I could have been, 0:51:15.360 --> 0:51:16.719 not saying I hate my life. 0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:17.400 I just wonder. 0:51:17.800 --> 0:51:18.600 They dragged her. 0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:20.600 They say she wants to be with other men, And 0:51:20.960 --> 0:51:23.000 this is how I look at this broad They drag her, 0:51:23.480 --> 0:51:26.160 and I think I have a friend that a really 0:51:26.200 --> 0:51:29.160 good friend that I'm witnessing the way that this man 0:51:29.239 --> 0:51:32.919 will her baby, will miss phone calls with the daughter 0:51:33.360 --> 0:51:36.279 and ask her to switch dates, and she'll always accommodate. 0:51:36.640 --> 0:51:39.160 But the one time she'll asks, he won't do what 0:51:39.239 --> 0:51:41.120 he refused, or he'll set her up to get a 0:51:41.320 --> 0:51:44.520 missed phone call, and then that goes on her record 0:51:44.560 --> 0:51:46.920 and they build a case against you. It's also they 0:51:46.920 --> 0:51:49.799 don't have to pay you child support, right, it ain't 0:51:49.840 --> 0:51:52.080 really about the well being of the kid. A lot 0:51:52.120 --> 0:51:53.960 of times, not saying a round, but a lot of 0:51:54.040 --> 0:51:56.840 times they will weaponize the system against the moms. 0:51:56.920 --> 0:52:00.479 Now, and yes, the pendulum it does swim both ways. 0:52:00.640 --> 0:52:01.920 Maybe there are a lot there were some women that 0:52:01.960 --> 0:52:04.399 were abusing the system, but damn it, let's not act 0:52:04.480 --> 0:52:05.799 like there are men that do the same. 0:52:05.880 --> 0:52:08.440 Not saying Ralphis. But let's keep off. 0:52:10.680 --> 0:52:12.439 Yeah, and when I say both on me Drew Raph, 0:52:12.480 --> 0:52:14.719 I don't know nothing about Drew and Ralph situation that 0:52:15.239 --> 0:52:17.600 you know. Listen, drews appealing and we'll see what happens. 0:52:18.080 --> 0:52:20.520 What I will say, based on my knowledge of other people. 0:52:20.680 --> 0:52:22.879 Once again, this is not related to jew and Ralph. 0:52:23.719 --> 0:52:26.880 I will say that, Claudia. Unfortunately from my experience with 0:52:27.000 --> 0:52:32.479 other women who I know I have, I know women 0:52:33.520 --> 0:52:41.000 who have used the system to make their men appear 0:52:41.120 --> 0:52:45.279 to be non active bothers. I know women who have 0:52:46.400 --> 0:52:51.000 encouraged a lot of things, and it is it is 0:52:51.160 --> 0:52:54.560 unfortunate too, because I do want to say this, there 0:52:54.680 --> 0:52:58.880 are some men who actually want to be in their kids' lives. 0:52:59.440 --> 0:53:03.200 You know this, this whole stereotype that you know black 0:53:03.280 --> 0:53:05.880 men are diaby dad. Statistics have shown that that's not 0:53:05.960 --> 0:53:06.560 the case. 0:53:08.120 --> 0:53:11.960 Present white father's. That's my favorite stat Black men marry 0:53:12.200 --> 0:53:15.080 women more Black men are better fathers, and so we 0:53:15.200 --> 0:53:19.000 were conflating marriage with fatherhood than they're different exactly. 0:53:19.480 --> 0:53:21.239 So I will say that. 0:53:21.400 --> 0:53:24.000 And again this is once again because no clip this, 0:53:24.480 --> 0:53:26.960 I'm not talking about you and round. What I am 0:53:27.080 --> 0:53:32.200 saying is I personally know, women who have lied under oath. 0:53:32.719 --> 0:53:35.760 That's awful to paint their. 0:53:37.200 --> 0:53:42.800 Child father as a bad person because they wanted to 0:53:42.960 --> 0:53:46.680 teach him a lesson. And what I do think is 0:53:46.960 --> 0:53:50.960 it is happening. Like Claudia said, the pendulum has ship swifted, 0:53:51.080 --> 0:53:55.120 for sure. But I do think what is unfortunate is 0:53:55.239 --> 0:53:58.800 for both parties. What has what has been lost in 0:53:58.920 --> 0:54:01.000 all of this is what's best for the kids. 0:54:01.239 --> 0:54:01.839 Do you know what I mean? 0:54:02.800 --> 0:54:05.520 And and and that's what makes me sad because your 0:54:05.760 --> 0:54:08.560 children and this is this is what I don't think 0:54:08.600 --> 0:54:09.440 parents understand. 0:54:09.920 --> 0:54:13.719 I don't care if they two or twelve, they will 0:54:13.840 --> 0:54:15.680 always remember what you put them through. 0:54:16.200 --> 0:54:18.960 Absolutely, my parents all the time. 0:54:20.320 --> 0:54:23.879 Sh yeah, it's yeah. 0:54:24.280 --> 0:54:28.200 I had some experience being around Drew, of course outside 0:54:28.200 --> 0:54:29.759 of Housewives, but I'm not on that. But like, just 0:54:29.800 --> 0:54:32.040 so like we had to like spend a lot of 0:54:32.200 --> 0:54:34.600 time together last year when we were promoting our movie Run. 0:54:35.280 --> 0:54:37.800 And when I tell you that girl was working herself 0:54:38.040 --> 0:54:40.439 damn at her death and trying to be all things 0:54:40.480 --> 0:54:43.279 that everyone trying to be on set. She would leave 0:54:43.400 --> 0:54:46.920 one set, she would leave the movie, fly back to Atlanta, 0:54:47.200 --> 0:54:51.440 do something with her kids. Film Uh, you know, film 0:54:51.520 --> 0:54:53.840 some scenes over there, come back. She was working herself 0:54:54.120 --> 0:54:56.759 so hard and going back and forth that she got pneumonia. 0:54:56.920 --> 0:54:59.440 She went to the hospital more than once, and she 0:54:59.640 --> 0:55:01.640 was really, really sick, and I remember being like, damn, 0:55:01.680 --> 0:55:05.319 she was facetimon She was like she was not sitting down, 0:55:05.440 --> 0:55:06.440 and it almost. 0:55:06.120 --> 0:55:07.840 Felt she was frantic, like I have to do this. 0:55:08.040 --> 0:55:09.800 I got to miss school. 0:55:10.640 --> 0:55:11.680 Yeah, probably. 0:55:15.400 --> 0:55:18.120 He's back. I had a Fatia was about to drop. 0:55:18.200 --> 0:55:19.080 Here it comes Dustin. 0:55:19.400 --> 0:55:23.160 Go ahead, Claudia, And I remember being the er and 0:55:23.239 --> 0:55:25.920 I was like, damn, so imagine that. And then you 0:55:26.000 --> 0:55:28.400 got this guy yeah before. 0:55:28.920 --> 0:55:30.319 Just waiting for you to fuck up so he could 0:55:30.360 --> 0:55:30.920 tell the judge. 0:55:34.320 --> 0:55:37.560 I want to make a note here, right, just because 0:55:37.760 --> 0:55:42.040 Drew does not have traditional custody or whatever the specifics 0:55:42.080 --> 0:55:45.600 of their agreement is, we are living in twenty twenty six, 0:55:46.280 --> 0:55:49.000 that does not mean that that she loves her pildren 0:55:49.000 --> 0:55:51.960 any less. They can have a different family structure that 0:55:52.640 --> 0:55:55.960 that that does benefit the children beds and maybe that 0:55:56.160 --> 0:55:58.680 does look like Ralph taking him to school. 0:55:58.680 --> 0:55:59.960 We don't know what the fuck that means. 0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:02.160 You know what I'm saying, But I just don't want 0:56:02.200 --> 0:56:06.240 to shame Drew, and I don't want people to misunderstand 0:56:06.360 --> 0:56:09.400 the fact that that judgment or whatever that does not 0:56:09.680 --> 0:56:12.520 then equate to Drew being a bad mom. That's just 0:56:12.600 --> 0:56:15.360 what their family structure looks like right now. And I 0:56:15.480 --> 0:56:17.160 just want to I don't want to conflate the two. 0:56:17.400 --> 0:56:19.680 You know what I'm saying, Yeah, I want I. 0:56:19.719 --> 0:56:23.160 Want to say again represent to Tiest for Drusi, Doorra 0:56:23.920 --> 0:56:27.360 said and I quote that the ruling was part of 0:56:27.480 --> 0:56:35.520 an interim temporary order and not a final permanent custody decision. 0:56:36.080 --> 0:56:39.239 So Reps for Drusi Dora said that this is not 0:56:39.960 --> 0:56:44.040 a final permanent but just one in the meantime. 0:56:44.400 --> 0:56:46.520 I say that because the scream made it looked like 0:56:46.560 --> 0:56:48.239 she was going to like the screaming, it looked bad. 0:56:48.760 --> 0:56:51.960 Well, well, the thing is this, Well reason why I 0:56:52.040 --> 0:56:54.640 was like, damn, you want to jail? Like yeah, and 0:56:54.800 --> 0:56:57.520 the reason right, no real talk and the reason why 0:56:57.520 --> 0:56:59.279 I wanted to. I want to make it very clear 0:57:00.239 --> 0:57:03.360 the court documents have stated everything we talked about, and 0:57:03.480 --> 0:57:06.840 I want to make clear that drews Raps outside of 0:57:06.920 --> 0:57:10.520 what we read the court documents, Drews Reps said that 0:57:10.719 --> 0:57:13.120 what we read is just temporary. 0:57:17.520 --> 0:57:19.120 Back to the thing, about the South cast is I 0:57:19.200 --> 0:57:21.480 am thank you for the ladies in the comments that 0:57:21.520 --> 0:57:23.640 are saying they are going through similar things in the 0:57:23.720 --> 0:57:27.160 South and sharing like how the system really is really 0:57:27.560 --> 0:57:28.000 not fair. 0:57:28.120 --> 0:57:32.480 Right, I know someone I know, y'all you have a 0:57:32.520 --> 0:57:33.400 story for everybody. Listen. 0:57:33.480 --> 0:57:35.439 I'm fifty three, I have I've lived a lot of life, Okay, 0:57:35.440 --> 0:57:36.360 I got a lot of people, I got a lot 0:57:36.400 --> 0:57:41.160 of friends that the baby daddy right was how to 0:57:41.200 --> 0:57:44.600 take a psychological test and was diagnosed as a sociopath, 0:57:45.360 --> 0:57:49.400 and that was not enough to stop to stop them 0:57:49.440 --> 0:57:52.280 from handing over way too much time to this man. 0:57:53.200 --> 0:57:54.919 They said it was one of the worst cases they've 0:57:54.960 --> 0:57:58.560 ever seen. Okay, one of the worst cases they ever seen, 0:57:59.040 --> 0:58:02.320 and they still let unsupervised visits happened. And my friend 0:58:02.480 --> 0:58:04.640 was fighting, fighting, fighting, fighting, and it was horrible. She 0:58:04.800 --> 0:58:07.640 was she she was drained her all her money going 0:58:07.720 --> 0:58:09.480 through this. But then when you don't have money to 0:58:09.520 --> 0:58:11.760 fight and against one of these motions and you lose 0:58:11.880 --> 0:58:14.600 because of that, on paper, it looks like, oh, you 0:58:14.720 --> 0:58:16.360 lost custody, or you're a. 0:58:16.400 --> 0:58:17.560 Bad mom, you're unfit. 0:58:17.800 --> 0:58:20.800 No, it really goes deep in that there's so much 0:58:20.960 --> 0:58:24.000 financial abuse that happens, especially if the one parent has 0:58:24.080 --> 0:58:27.360 way more money than the other. They can like beat 0:58:27.440 --> 0:58:30.040 you on paper. You know, they can piss the whip 0:58:30.080 --> 0:58:32.640 you through lawyers and fees and you can every time 0:58:32.680 --> 0:58:34.960 they file in emotion. You gotta respond. And when you 0:58:35.040 --> 0:58:37.000 run out of money, you stop responding, you try to 0:58:37.040 --> 0:58:39.520 represent yourself, you start losing, and then they'd be like, oh, 0:58:39.680 --> 0:58:43.000 unfit mother, and you can't say anything publicly about that 0:58:43.160 --> 0:58:46.320 person or they will that be another ding against you. 0:58:46.400 --> 0:58:47.800 And it happens to others all the time. 0:58:47.800 --> 0:58:49.520 There's so many women that have their kids taking away 0:58:49.520 --> 0:58:51.720 from them and put in danger and custody with these 0:58:52.040 --> 0:58:54.480 these abusive fathers or mothers. 0:58:55.440 --> 0:58:58.400 And it's really bad, y'all. We need a whole overhaul 0:58:58.440 --> 0:58:58.840 in Ron. 0:58:58.800 --> 0:59:01.840 DeSantis, in Florida, Marble and a lot of states in 0:59:01.920 --> 0:59:07.120 South greg abb in Texas and Georgia is not too 0:59:07.200 --> 0:59:09.160 far behind with some of these wats. I'm telling you, 0:59:09.160 --> 0:59:13.160 they are letting kids be handed over to abusive parents. 0:59:13.800 --> 0:59:15.840 So because they're so afraid of what we don't want 0:59:15.840 --> 0:59:16.200 to keep. 0:59:16.080 --> 0:59:21.000 That you know, we're not talking about yeah, because you 0:59:21.080 --> 0:59:21.760 know what they're gonna do. 0:59:22.000 --> 0:59:25.720 And I'm not clumping Southern men. I'm saying the system, y'all, 0:59:25.840 --> 0:59:28.240 and there's also unfit mothers. I'm saying, the system is 0:59:28.440 --> 0:59:28.960 very skewed. 0:59:29.680 --> 0:59:30.520 You just can't run with. 0:59:30.680 --> 0:59:33.760 Kim's ghetto ass. Kim's Osiak Prime. 0:59:34.520 --> 0:59:39.240 You know, don't damn money going with that lady husband. Now, 0:59:39.320 --> 0:59:41.880 there's always some ghetto shit going on in that camp. 0:59:42.200 --> 0:59:43.120 You've seen the ladies. 0:59:43.640 --> 0:59:46.120 She's going with some ladies husband, and now the lady 0:59:46.240 --> 0:59:48.640 allegedly going with Croy again. 0:59:49.120 --> 0:59:54.000 Oh yes, the parking lot. Her new boyfriend's ex and 0:59:54.240 --> 0:59:57.000 Croy were spotted making eyes at each other in the 0:59:57.040 --> 0:59:58.560 parking lot like they had a wife swap. 0:59:59.000 --> 1:00:00.680 Got a fuck the too, if I was. You know 1:00:00.720 --> 1:00:06.080 what I'm saying, I've. 1:00:03.720 --> 1:00:07.280 Done that for real. So I've looked at clean life, 1:00:07.360 --> 1:00:08.200 but I have moments. 1:00:09.080 --> 1:00:13.760 Yeah, that's we need love and country. 1:00:14.520 --> 1:00:15.160 You know what I'm saying. 1:00:16.080 --> 1:00:18.760 To follow and let them cameras follow Kim and Kroy 1:00:18.840 --> 1:00:21.400 and all them goddamn cheering, you know what I'm saying, 1:00:21.440 --> 1:00:23.720 all them them children running them up over there in 1:00:23.760 --> 1:00:24.600 that house. 1:00:25.320 --> 1:00:27.800 See do you see that his car said hide me Jesus. 1:00:28.360 --> 1:00:32.520 Yeah, because we're talking Kim, that's why you like you 1:00:32.600 --> 1:00:33.040 love him? 1:00:33.960 --> 1:00:34.280 You love. 1:00:34.840 --> 1:00:40.160 So one thing that happened in this episode, that's sort of. 1:00:43.400 --> 1:00:43.600 Him. 1:00:44.280 --> 1:00:45.200 I want to get. 1:00:45.720 --> 1:00:47.720 Figure out Bazosia. Do you love him? 1:00:48.240 --> 1:00:50.439 Not Kardashian Zosiac. 1:00:50.400 --> 1:00:53.560 So that's that Kardashian. No, I think he. 1:00:53.680 --> 1:00:55.480 I know he likes Kim Kardashian, but I want. 1:00:55.320 --> 1:00:57.040 To make sure we love. 1:01:00.560 --> 1:01:02.400 Tell them one this guy young we need love and 1:01:02.480 --> 1:01:03.440 blue Grass. 1:01:07.640 --> 1:01:10.560 We love and cigarette. 1:01:12.160 --> 1:01:16.000 I love your child first of all, not gonna say 1:01:16.040 --> 1:01:18.760 love in new Ports. I can't rock. 1:01:22.280 --> 1:01:23.960 I love me too. 1:01:24.760 --> 1:01:27.320 So I love all the girls. 1:01:29.600 --> 1:01:31.760 You know, man, we can't talk. 1:01:32.440 --> 1:01:35.880 But honestly, little quick story, I was talking to it 1:01:35.960 --> 1:01:40.600 about girls today and we were just I just wanted 1:01:40.640 --> 1:01:45.880 to talk to her, and long story short, she was like, 1:01:46.160 --> 1:01:47.280 I know you love us, and. 1:01:47.320 --> 1:01:48.520 I said, I love all your girls. 1:01:48.760 --> 1:01:52.320 And she said, I know you have a hard job 1:01:52.400 --> 1:01:55.440 to do sometimes. And I said, you know what it is, 1:01:55.680 --> 1:01:57.680 what it is, I said, I want all you girls 1:01:57.720 --> 1:02:00.920 to know. I stick to the episode and I'm my 1:02:01.040 --> 1:02:02.280 business and it is. 1:02:06.960 --> 1:02:11.560 Atlanta. I won't say this. The thing is, I'm no longer. 1:02:14.440 --> 1:02:15.080 I'm no longer. 1:02:15.080 --> 1:02:16.880 I think it's hard. It used to be hard. And 1:02:17.000 --> 1:02:19.200 Claudia doesn't know this. Blue It used to be very 1:02:19.240 --> 1:02:21.440 hard for me. But I will say this, I have 1:02:21.600 --> 1:02:26.040 made a decisions now because listen, I don't know what's 1:02:26.040 --> 1:02:29.280 having my life, Carmen Jennifer Hudson. I am changing dream 1:02:29.320 --> 1:02:33.720 Girl soundtrack. The thing is, I feel like as long 1:02:33.760 --> 1:02:37.800 as I stick to the episode, even if if you 1:02:37.920 --> 1:02:40.760 if you're mad at me for talking about the episode, 1:02:41.360 --> 1:02:43.240 then there's nothing I can to help you. 1:02:44.160 --> 1:02:49.520 So I mean that's I'm being nice about it. I don't, 1:02:49.840 --> 1:02:54.240 but I will say, Hi, Kim Zosiak and Kardashian. So 1:02:54.840 --> 1:02:55.960 I want to get to Cather. 1:02:58.320 --> 1:03:00.360 She ain't here that she had the casino. 1:03:02.240 --> 1:03:02.920 Where Scooter. 1:03:03.400 --> 1:03:06.560 So speaking of what's going on with dad, Kelly met 1:03:06.600 --> 1:03:14.000 with Pedra. So Claudia Phedra is Kelly's attorney. Sorry, go ahead, 1:03:17.520 --> 1:03:21.080 we all just work here. Go ahead, carls oh So, 1:03:21.600 --> 1:03:22.360 Dustin you good? 1:03:23.280 --> 1:03:34.240 Mm hmmm. This Kim Zosi texting me, I. 1:03:34.320 --> 1:03:35.040 Bought up okay. 1:03:35.320 --> 1:03:40.520 So Caedra is representing Kelly as they are going through 1:03:41.240 --> 1:03:48.040 you know, Kelly's custodial situation, child support, back, child support, 1:03:48.440 --> 1:03:49.960 you know her with her ex husband. 1:03:51.400 --> 1:03:59.640 Pedra is at the law firm, she has her she 1:03:59.760 --> 1:04:00.920 has a team of people. 1:04:02.880 --> 1:04:03.160 I'm not. 1:04:03.600 --> 1:04:05.120 I'm not doing it to day. I'm not. 1:04:05.200 --> 1:04:07.160 I'm not why you make that face. So I wasn't 1:04:07.200 --> 1:04:09.560 gonna say that you make that face. 1:04:10.080 --> 1:04:11.680 In order for me not to laugh, I have to 1:04:11.760 --> 1:04:13.200 breathe and breathe out, okay. 1:04:14.400 --> 1:04:21.240 Or was it like an actual law office? Okay, your 1:04:21.280 --> 1:04:22.840 producer just want into the logistics. 1:04:24.560 --> 1:04:25.439 That was a real team. 1:04:26.720 --> 1:04:28.440 I would have had that ship at the funeral home 1:04:28.520 --> 1:04:29.320 if follows her. 1:04:31.520 --> 1:04:35.160 Dead Blue asked if Phaeder was working out a we work. 1:04:36.040 --> 1:04:37.160 I just I just want to know. 1:04:37.440 --> 1:04:39.040 I want to learn from you as a producer. 1:04:40.200 --> 1:04:42.480 Notice, I'm not saying anything. It's Blue. Y'all be mad 1:04:42.520 --> 1:04:43.720 at her. Don't be mad at me this week. 1:04:44.040 --> 1:04:44.840 I don't care for it. 1:04:46.320 --> 1:04:50.280 Then I got to say I so. 1:04:50.600 --> 1:04:56.320 Phaeda followed emotion, followed the motion for child support payments, 1:04:57.760 --> 1:04:59.880 and she also followed the emotion to have a kids 1:05:00.000 --> 1:05:05.280 shut on TV. Kelly looked busily sad what was going on? 1:05:05.920 --> 1:05:09.480 In the end, Phaedra bought her a Breastplate of Righteousness, 1:05:10.560 --> 1:05:14.840 which was a gift bag with a brawl Blue to 1:05:14.960 --> 1:05:17.160 loose mup? What did you think of dress scene with 1:05:17.240 --> 1:05:19.960 her legal team and buying Kelly? 1:05:20.120 --> 1:05:35.720 A video review? Nineteen I will limp it. 1:05:37.120 --> 1:05:43.240 Look, but God give Bobby Brown, so let me blue 1:05:43.280 --> 1:05:48.400 to not okay? So, I mean Kelly looked nice and 1:05:48.520 --> 1:05:52.880 she is Brown lawyer at Onesie. I didn't realize they were. 1:05:52.840 --> 1:05:57.600 That close by the way up Blue. Kelly says, Hi, No, 1:05:57.760 --> 1:05:58.920 she didn't said she liked pink. 1:06:02.240 --> 1:06:07.880 I got people to don't play with Look, Kelly, I'm 1:06:08.120 --> 1:06:10.800 you being offended by objective reasoning doesn't surprising me. It's 1:06:10.800 --> 1:06:15.640 the cases. So I look, man, I. 1:06:18.240 --> 1:06:18.520 Curls. 1:06:18.640 --> 1:06:19.919 You can't you turning red? Friend? 1:06:19.960 --> 1:06:22.760 You turn I don't know what's first of all, I 1:06:22.800 --> 1:06:27.160 don't know if the spirit of justice hire tonight and 1:06:27.400 --> 1:06:30.480 I am turning red. I've never seen a red nipples 1:06:30.520 --> 1:06:31.120 on the black man. 1:06:31.240 --> 1:06:32.360 Yes, go ahead, friend. 1:06:33.120 --> 1:06:37.120 He gonna do menopause. The menopause that he's gonna do. 1:06:37.200 --> 1:06:40.080 The menopause should be going to you know who you hire, sir? 1:06:40.280 --> 1:06:42.480 If you adjusting his are you adjusting a penis? 1:06:42.800 --> 1:06:43.000 Yes? 1:06:43.240 --> 1:06:43.960 Because it was. 1:06:49.960 --> 1:06:50.560 Exercise. 1:06:50.920 --> 1:06:52.919 You a lie. She did a whole lie. 1:06:54.200 --> 1:06:55.240 She did not say that. 1:06:56.240 --> 1:07:01.400 He literally didn't say all little back, ask Claudia the 1:07:01.680 --> 1:07:03.160 hands what they just did to you? 1:07:04.000 --> 1:07:08.000 They have me the Claudia. They want to go under 1:07:08.040 --> 1:07:13.760 a housewart pages, Claudia said, fuck you bitch, and look 1:07:13.880 --> 1:07:17.400 I'm gonna like Clauia did not say that now she 1:07:17.480 --> 1:07:20.840 said this, but no, I actually. 1:07:20.600 --> 1:07:22.440 Don't have any beef for Kelly. In fact, I went 1:07:22.560 --> 1:07:25.760 back and watched episodes. There's episodes where me, Claudia, and 1:07:25.920 --> 1:07:27.720 Dustin are all saying she needs to say because she's 1:07:27.760 --> 1:07:28.520 working for her check. 1:07:28.960 --> 1:07:31.520 I personally yes, the fact that we. 1:07:31.600 --> 1:07:34.680 All echoed each other repeatedly. What I think is happening 1:07:34.760 --> 1:07:36.640 is she probably first away by when I said about Shamiyah, 1:07:36.680 --> 1:07:39.240 and she's being protected from her friend. And as someone 1:07:39.280 --> 1:07:41.400 who's had friends be attacked publicly and I protected them, 1:07:41.400 --> 1:07:43.400 I can't hate on that. I'm prussell bridge of Kelly. 1:07:43.440 --> 1:07:45.240 You talk about her now we got we got beef. 1:07:45.400 --> 1:07:48.200 So I'm not a hypocrite. I understand the game. So yes, 1:07:48.320 --> 1:07:50.800 keep liking Pink. So like I was saying about Kelly, 1:07:50.880 --> 1:07:54.840 and and and I think that a broken clock is 1:07:54.920 --> 1:07:57.640 right twice a day. And despite what Claudia might have 1:07:57.720 --> 1:07:59.960 informed us, being a journalistic, you know from the night 1:08:00.000 --> 1:08:05.200 teen hundreds about Bobby Brown's that maybe in this instance 1:08:05.800 --> 1:08:08.600 Phedro could actually figure that out and do something with 1:08:08.680 --> 1:08:13.160 a living body, right, So yeah, I you can't be 1:08:13.400 --> 1:08:15.280 a standard and a hand me down. 1:08:15.360 --> 1:08:18.800 But so I'm I'm a living. 1:08:20.640 --> 1:08:27.960 You know, I'm trying. Okay, I'm doing my best. 1:08:28.280 --> 1:08:29.280 What are you trying then? 1:08:31.600 --> 1:08:34.480 What are you trying trying to the standards? 1:08:35.840 --> 1:08:37.800 The standards if Marlow Hampton didn't happen. 1:08:38.640 --> 1:08:45.439 So remember two ways ago Blues and I have nothing 1:08:45.479 --> 1:08:48.479 against Kelly have everything Kelly. 1:08:48.600 --> 1:08:50.200 No, I have nothing against Kelly, but I also have 1:08:50.320 --> 1:08:54.760 Wi Fi and I watched I also have Wi Fi. 1:08:58.240 --> 1:09:04.720 Right, I'm gonna give. I'm gonna give as you. 1:09:04.800 --> 1:09:07.800 Deserve an Emmy because the way you just kept your 1:09:07.840 --> 1:09:15.639 face in one piece, the lies, the lies you almost 1:09:15.680 --> 1:09:21.679 broke that lady kept talking and Carlos just kept counting 1:09:21.720 --> 1:09:23.680 backage from one hundred, and you saw his spirit leave 1:09:23.760 --> 1:09:26.200 his body. He's like, it's gonna be the best clip. 1:09:26.360 --> 1:09:31.400 I'm gonna give five billions. Kelly paid the way for 1:09:31.479 --> 1:09:35.040 it for Kelly. So no, I will say this. Here's 1:09:35.080 --> 1:09:37.320 the thing that I think is gonna sound crazy. I 1:09:37.439 --> 1:09:39.559 actually a part of me wishes that Kelly and Drew 1:09:39.640 --> 1:09:42.439 could figure out how to do a truce because they're 1:09:42.439 --> 1:09:46.000 both going through similar things right now, like have you 1:09:46.080 --> 1:09:48.599 noticed that, Like they're both going through husbands who are 1:09:48.760 --> 1:09:51.599 are doing weird things with children and the footage, they're 1:09:51.640 --> 1:09:53.439 both going through a dark knight of the soul. They're 1:09:53.479 --> 1:09:55.479 both sting his weak links will get picked on a lot. 1:09:55.640 --> 1:09:58.120 They're both feisty and hard to kill. I kind of 1:09:58.240 --> 1:09:59.920 like a bitch that you y'all know. I don't like 1:10:00.040 --> 1:10:02.479 anybody who's pussy. The one thing I will give Kelly, 1:10:02.640 --> 1:10:04.080 even if she comes up my leg and tries to 1:10:04.160 --> 1:10:08.439 drag my wig. I like her spunk. I like her. Yes, yes, 1:10:08.520 --> 1:10:10.439 if Kelly was in the room, she and I would 1:10:10.439 --> 1:10:12.160 be going back and forth. I like that shit. I 1:10:12.280 --> 1:10:16.080 respect it right. So I'm kind of hoping that Fader 1:10:16.160 --> 1:10:18.639 can get that once in a lifetime look that she's 1:10:18.680 --> 1:10:20.360 been waiting for recently, help. 1:10:20.240 --> 1:10:22.479 Her like winning a case. 1:10:23.080 --> 1:10:26.400 Yes, broken clock twice, it's six fifteen twice a day. 1:10:26.800 --> 1:10:29.439 And I'm hoping that if Fadri can you know, pull 1:10:29.600 --> 1:10:31.760 a rabbit out the hat, that Kelly can go back 1:10:31.840 --> 1:10:34.840 to being, you know, the lucid, fancy free girl. We 1:10:34.920 --> 1:10:37.479 loving her T shirt and her panties, setting the standard 1:10:38.120 --> 1:10:38.960 and hangs her way. 1:10:40.280 --> 1:10:45.800 Didn't and I hate to say this, you know, I 1:10:45.880 --> 1:10:48.639 hate compliment. I hate compliment and a fake ass dish. 1:10:49.439 --> 1:10:51.599 But didn't she do actually some good? 1:10:51.720 --> 1:10:53.519 Like didn't she get her like able to let the 1:10:53.600 --> 1:10:56.479 kids film and all that like she made some she 1:10:56.760 --> 1:10:58.600 you know what now this. 1:11:00.760 --> 1:11:05.040 It's not like you did good good good? 1:11:06.120 --> 1:11:06.320 Yeah. 1:11:06.400 --> 1:11:09.320 And not only did that shout off to Parks Esquire, 1:11:09.920 --> 1:11:11.479 she got the kids to film. 1:11:12.080 --> 1:11:13.000 Are going too far? 1:11:13.120 --> 1:11:13.200 Now? 1:11:13.360 --> 1:11:19.919 Drug that's her name, shout out to Favor Squire. 1:11:20.240 --> 1:11:21.200 Well, I'm a doctor too. 1:11:21.360 --> 1:11:22.840 I got one of them honorary to give all the 1:11:22.880 --> 1:11:25.360 Atlanta celebrities, mey tyres. 1:11:25.840 --> 1:11:30.320 Everybody was taking. We all had that same black and 1:11:30.400 --> 1:11:31.080 red gown on. 1:11:31.240 --> 1:11:31.680 And had this. 1:11:34.120 --> 1:11:36.400 That was all my show and we all okay. 1:11:37.000 --> 1:11:41.840 Graduated, be graduated from law school? 1:11:42.240 --> 1:11:43.240 Which which one? 1:11:43.240 --> 1:11:43.639 Which one? 1:11:44.840 --> 1:11:48.520 I believe? If it's okay, what are the bulldogs? 1:11:48.640 --> 1:11:51.280 Is that the University of Georgia Georgia? 1:11:51.400 --> 1:11:52.240 Right? Actually? 1:11:52.600 --> 1:11:55.479 Blue, I heard you, Blue, I heard you say I 1:11:55.600 --> 1:11:59.400 was looking to shut up mean shady. 1:12:00.120 --> 1:12:02.280 It's my tism. I didn't medicate today. 1:12:02.400 --> 1:12:08.160 Man, we are Anyways, not only did she get awarded 1:12:08.240 --> 1:12:11.720 the kiss at film, she was also able to have 1:12:11.920 --> 1:12:16.719 which is Look, it's unfortunate that from what Bravo said 1:12:17.360 --> 1:12:22.120 at the end credits that unfortunately, or how do you 1:12:22.160 --> 1:12:24.439 want to see it, the husband have to go to 1:12:24.560 --> 1:12:27.400 jail until he was able to pay back thirty one 1:12:27.439 --> 1:12:28.640 thousand dollars. 1:12:29.800 --> 1:12:31.040 In back top support payments. 1:12:31.760 --> 1:12:33.439 So you know what, we give her a hard time, 1:12:33.520 --> 1:12:34.800 but when you're right, you're right, and we got to 1:12:34.800 --> 1:12:36.320 get props. She did that on that and I and 1:12:36.439 --> 1:12:37.880 I believe did she do it for free? 1:12:39.040 --> 1:12:39.200 Yeah? 1:12:39.720 --> 1:12:40.760 And that's and that's dope. 1:12:40.840 --> 1:12:45.200 Listen, Pedra, your makeup may not match, but you did 1:12:45.240 --> 1:12:46.720 it on this scene like you really did. 1:12:46.960 --> 1:12:50.120 Like, oh, I wasn't suposed to say that ship you did? 1:12:50.640 --> 1:12:51.519 Hold up for the shows? 1:12:54.800 --> 1:12:56.680 Where's my degree from? I don't have to have an 1:12:56.680 --> 1:12:58.920 agree to talk shit about people on reality TV. 1:12:59.040 --> 1:13:00.800 If you think that, I'm sorry. I got a bridge 1:13:00.840 --> 1:13:03.960 feed to buy, Like, get out of here with that. Anyways, 1:13:05.200 --> 1:13:06.439 I'm giving the lady props. 1:13:06.520 --> 1:13:09.000 Don't tell me off here. She did good that. I 1:13:09.040 --> 1:13:09.599 think that's great. 1:13:09.840 --> 1:13:12.559 It was nice that she offered to do it, whether 1:13:12.720 --> 1:13:14.559 for the cameras or not, she's still put in the work. 1:13:14.600 --> 1:13:17.680 She did it and having a successful result after all 1:13:17.760 --> 1:13:19.720 the fat shade with losing case and all that kind 1:13:19.720 --> 1:13:22.639 of stuff. Listen, when when she's doing right and doing good, 1:13:22.680 --> 1:13:24.080 you gotta give it to her. And that's dope that 1:13:25.360 --> 1:13:27.920 I'm not mad that I think this is actually super dope. 1:13:28.000 --> 1:13:30.840 I really do. But we don't have we don't huh No. 1:13:31.520 --> 1:13:33.280 The one thing I'll say that my mom's a scorpio. 1:13:33.320 --> 1:13:36.439 Scorpios like Chris Jenner, they will do anything and involve 1:13:36.479 --> 1:13:39.200 their kids. I think the mother and Pedra stood up 1:13:39.240 --> 1:13:40.920 for the mother and Kelly, so I actually do believe 1:13:40.960 --> 1:13:45.160 that's sincere. I always sincere. But I think mother to mother. 1:13:45.280 --> 1:13:47.120 I think that's what was probably the emphasis for her 1:13:47.160 --> 1:13:51.320 to show up Cala like that exactly, Nica, not doctor 1:13:51.360 --> 1:13:52.120 Claudia girl. 1:13:53.800 --> 1:14:01.560 So what are we all so saw? Was that a 1:14:01.760 --> 1:14:04.280 therapist is so doctor. 1:14:04.120 --> 1:14:09.960 Ken because the way he was ribbing on her stuff. Okay, 1:14:10.200 --> 1:14:10.559 this is some. 1:14:10.600 --> 1:14:13.360 Real shit and and listen, I don't know doctor can 1:14:13.720 --> 1:14:17.000 and it is what it is, and we listened. I'll 1:14:17.040 --> 1:14:19.719 speak for myself because like Blue said, this ain't French. 1:14:20.680 --> 1:14:22.639 I wasn't say, well, who told my girl? Should mea 1:14:23.000 --> 1:14:25.200 don't you ever once again in your life to work 1:14:25.800 --> 1:14:27.000 at a conference. 1:14:26.640 --> 1:14:27.800 Room in a business meeting. 1:14:28.040 --> 1:14:31.439 Yes, enough, doctor Ken, I don't know you my brother, 1:14:32.280 --> 1:14:37.000 to be on camera as a doctor while you're there 1:14:37.280 --> 1:14:41.680 to celebrate Drew's mother. And the way you sort of 1:14:43.160 --> 1:14:47.520 hugged Phaedra for the extended period. 1:14:47.200 --> 1:14:48.439 Of time that you did. 1:14:49.600 --> 1:14:55.080 I I thought that was just beyond inappropriate. I thought 1:14:55.120 --> 1:14:58.679 about the wrong place. I thought it was the wrong time. 1:14:59.280 --> 1:15:00.640 I thought it was the. 1:15:00.720 --> 1:15:04.400 Wrong sort of situation to put Phaedra in. I honestly 1:15:04.479 --> 1:15:07.280 felt bad for as a woman having to. 1:15:10.400 --> 1:15:17.400 Oh well on the dead homies. That's a fact. That's 1:15:17.439 --> 1:15:18.280 a Fendi fact. 1:15:18.360 --> 1:15:23.800 He definitely made us think about Syne Bryant's foolishness. Don't 1:15:23.840 --> 1:15:31.320 say well, I will, I will. He made us all 1:15:31.439 --> 1:15:35.000 think about fake doctors, doctor Taye, the nigga from season four, 1:15:35.439 --> 1:15:40.320 and Rai's car party. Yeah, Doctor Francis would never ever, 1:15:42.360 --> 1:15:43.920 and neither would doctor Sherry. 1:15:44.520 --> 1:15:48.360 You that song is in my head, that woman brace 1:15:48.479 --> 1:15:50.120 claud You know that song? I want to grab you 1:15:50.280 --> 1:15:54.720 in Chris brother, it felt very sexual. I feel like 1:15:55.000 --> 1:15:57.800 his little peep slid up a little bit. And here's 1:15:57.800 --> 1:16:01.280 the thing. To think it was fat is something that 1:16:01.400 --> 1:16:03.880 I do. There's a thing called fight or flight, but 1:16:03.920 --> 1:16:07.400 people don't talk about freezer Fawn where you say something 1:16:07.800 --> 1:16:10.400 like fawnish and cute and then slither away so that 1:16:10.439 --> 1:16:13.160 the man doesn't have a violent reaction. Favor fawns when 1:16:13.200 --> 1:16:15.840 she's nervous. Sometimes I do it too, sometimes right like, well, 1:16:15.880 --> 1:16:17.760 I see you, Fred, get him off of me. She 1:16:17.920 --> 1:16:19.680 was trying to keep it cute because she didn't want 1:16:19.680 --> 1:16:22.400 to embarrass him, but I could tell she was uncomfortable. 1:16:22.400 --> 1:16:26.080 She was uncomfortable and listening about faiths a scorpion. 1:16:27.120 --> 1:16:31.040 If you watch the show Old Faedra definitely lean into 1:16:31.240 --> 1:16:32.280 like the flirty stuff. 1:16:33.120 --> 1:16:35.400 But it was just it was something in that moment 1:16:35.520 --> 1:16:38.080 that I and and again maybe it was just me. 1:16:38.800 --> 1:16:44.559 I felt uncomfortable for her, like she did not look comfortable. Now, look, 1:16:45.439 --> 1:16:47.559 it's maybe they know each other, and that's how I. 1:16:49.120 --> 1:16:50.439 She She didn't look comfortable to me. 1:16:51.479 --> 1:16:53.000 Watching the same show that she was. 1:16:56.320 --> 1:16:56.360 No. 1:17:00.960 --> 1:17:12.160 Beyonce exactly is lie and act like I was moaning. 1:17:12.400 --> 1:17:14.880 I don't moan when I'm gonna come when Steven Seagal 1:17:15.040 --> 1:17:17.719 tried to sexually harass me in his house with his hair. Plus, 1:17:18.000 --> 1:17:21.519 I didn't moan. I certainly did not moan. And yes, 1:17:21.640 --> 1:17:22.840 we all react differently. 1:17:22.560 --> 1:17:22.640 But. 1:17:25.840 --> 1:17:29.880 Okay, I may freeze you're right A freeze one thousand said, 1:17:30.120 --> 1:17:33.560 but not a shimmy and a a shimmy and a 1:17:33.640 --> 1:17:34.479 titty bump. 1:17:34.439 --> 1:17:37.639 No fee. I'm a fonner, though I'll crack a joke 1:17:37.840 --> 1:17:40.320 to like, man, I'm not about to do with y'all. 1:17:40.720 --> 1:17:41.000 I'm not. 1:17:41.920 --> 1:17:42.639 I'm not listen. 1:17:44.080 --> 1:17:46.280 Let's stop at giving her props for helping Kelly. 1:17:46.360 --> 1:17:46.920 That was dope. 1:17:47.240 --> 1:17:49.800 She had some great confessional looks this season. She finally 1:17:49.920 --> 1:17:52.960 woke up at second last episode. She did great in Scotland. 1:17:52.960 --> 1:17:55.040 I'm giving her props, but what I'm not gonna do 1:17:55.240 --> 1:17:57.519 is act like she was this victim in that moment. 1:17:57.760 --> 1:18:00.600 He was a creep, yes, and she lean into it 1:18:00.680 --> 1:18:07.200 because loves you to think she's so sexual. And that's 1:18:07.280 --> 1:18:10.120 my I'm sticking to what I said. I don't give 1:18:10.120 --> 1:18:11.320 the damn who agrees with me. 1:18:11.439 --> 1:18:12.040 I don't. 1:18:13.439 --> 1:18:13.679 Don't. 1:18:14.320 --> 1:18:16.679 Yeah, And to be fair, we haven't heard her say 1:18:16.960 --> 1:18:19.120 that the man made her feel uncomfortable. 1:18:19.960 --> 1:18:21.639 Carlos was just saying that's. 1:18:21.479 --> 1:18:27.760 True to him, she was uncomfortable. They think she she 1:18:28.560 --> 1:18:29.919 know I would. 1:18:29.800 --> 1:18:32.400 Say she looked uncomfortable uncomfortable to me, but like doesn't 1:18:32.439 --> 1:18:36.519 said And Doctor King's defense and his defense he was 1:18:36.560 --> 1:18:42.760 a per he was, and and that's why I said, 1:18:43.520 --> 1:18:46.880 I don't know their relationship, you know, like like like 1:18:47.080 --> 1:18:49.720 me and Dustin, we have a little thing and it's 1:18:49.880 --> 1:18:54.320 innocent and it's fun naked eye to look whatever. So 1:18:54.560 --> 1:18:57.880 that's what I'm saying. Perhaps that's that's their thing. I 1:18:58.120 --> 1:19:02.439 just felt that I thought of and listed. Maybe it 1:19:02.560 --> 1:19:03.400 made me uncomfortable. 1:19:03.479 --> 1:19:05.800 I don't know, but and that's fine for you to 1:19:05.880 --> 1:19:06.439 say that too. 1:19:07.920 --> 1:19:11.960 Si Vader did not say anything about this scene raindrops 1:19:12.000 --> 1:19:14.720 laying on the comments. But I don't think Padre has 1:19:14.760 --> 1:19:17.880 me in a comment about that particular moment he was. 1:19:18.040 --> 1:19:20.320 He was get asked wrong, no matter what her reaction 1:19:20.479 --> 1:19:23.320 was though her neck, he was And then he went 1:19:23.360 --> 1:19:24.160 and did it with someone else. 1:19:24.240 --> 1:19:25.519 It was like her and someone uh. 1:19:27.040 --> 1:19:30.599 Was like, yeah, you're my therapist. 1:19:31.640 --> 1:19:34.400 It was two women that he rolled up on and 1:19:34.520 --> 1:19:37.599 that really with her and someone else, who's the other one? 1:19:37.680 --> 1:19:40.360 He was like in their air, he was gross. 1:19:40.840 --> 1:19:43.599 Yeah, I don't think he if he's a therapist, I don't. 1:19:44.760 --> 1:19:47.000 Here's the thing, discernment, right, The thing about being a 1:19:47.080 --> 1:19:49.479 therapist is it's one of the few jobs no matter 1:19:49.560 --> 1:19:51.960 how good you are, how you are socially is a 1:19:52.040 --> 1:19:55.240 direct correlation time, but you can be trusted professionally. One 1:19:55.240 --> 1:19:57.600 of those jobs where you actually cannot separate them. So 1:19:57.960 --> 1:20:01.800 I feel the itck deeply doing that. I would fight 1:20:01.880 --> 1:20:02.280 his nigga. 1:20:02.600 --> 1:20:03.439 That's right, Porscha. 1:20:03.560 --> 1:20:05.040 He was with her and porstch of shout out to 1:20:05.120 --> 1:20:07.280 you because you did check him a little bit like 1:20:07.400 --> 1:20:08.800 you was like and I like. 1:20:09.200 --> 1:20:12.559 Fight and Fadris Faun. They've always been fight versus fun 1:20:12.640 --> 1:20:13.040 those two. 1:20:13.680 --> 1:20:15.400 Yeah, that was just a little weird moment. 1:20:16.600 --> 1:20:20.200 Speaking of Porscha, though, Porsche and Sway had a conversation 1:20:21.400 --> 1:20:24.080 about the state of the relationship. What we saw last 1:20:24.160 --> 1:20:28.160 week Dustin but the Blast told Porscha that he's in 1:20:28.280 --> 1:20:31.000 love with her in this episode. 1:20:32.320 --> 1:20:33.880 How do you keep saying that? Carlos, he. 1:20:36.240 --> 1:20:38.640 Said, sitting up there looking at them Lego people with 1:20:38.760 --> 1:20:43.120 that drawing in Beard talking about talking about so I 1:20:43.200 --> 1:20:47.360 think I'm out with that sponsored by Please. 1:20:48.040 --> 1:20:49.320 He's probably a great person. 1:20:49.439 --> 1:20:54.400 But as a former client of Beijing Products, I will 1:20:54.560 --> 1:21:03.360 say that myself, Sway and Porsche a ive seen to 1:21:03.960 --> 1:21:07.920 update each other on the state of the relationship. I 1:21:08.000 --> 1:21:12.080 will say this, Ty Young is number one. Sway is 1:21:12.120 --> 1:21:16.960 a close number two. Sway to me, it's a fine, fine, 1:21:17.400 --> 1:21:23.840 fine woman. Before I move on as the only pant 1:21:23.920 --> 1:21:28.800 sexual on the panel, Blue, what did you think of 1:21:28.960 --> 1:21:30.960 Porsche and Sways dynamic? 1:21:31.520 --> 1:21:34.439 Because I know my girl, I don't. 1:21:34.240 --> 1:21:36.639 Care what anyone says, and we can disagree on this one, 1:21:36.760 --> 1:21:38.280 and we could. I will fight y'all on this. 1:21:39.040 --> 1:21:42.559 I know Porsche. Porsche is in love and in lust 1:21:42.680 --> 1:21:45.679 with Sway. And now this Way took off the glasses. 1:21:45.800 --> 1:21:47.680 I said, Oh Porsche, I get it. 1:21:49.320 --> 1:21:54.040 I mean it. I've been got it. Oh yeah, Look man, 1:21:54.640 --> 1:21:57.680 I've said this before. The right stud can digmatize you, right, 1:21:58.240 --> 1:22:02.000 So I just I have said it before. I know 1:22:02.200 --> 1:22:07.120 the markers of someone who knows what they're doing. Sway, No, 1:22:07.520 --> 1:22:09.680 she right, she pronounces just want to be respectful? Is 1:22:09.720 --> 1:22:11.800 that she pronounced? Y? 1:22:13.520 --> 1:22:15.640 Always says she when she no. 1:22:16.040 --> 1:22:19.040 Sway has that thing that would make you yeah, Sway 1:22:19.120 --> 1:22:20.760 has that thing that have you howling at the moon. 1:22:21.600 --> 1:22:25.120 And here's the thing someone who is swaggy in that way, 1:22:25.240 --> 1:22:28.200 who is secure, And it's called masculine center. Right, So 1:22:28.280 --> 1:22:30.040 you can be a woman and still be a queer 1:22:30.080 --> 1:22:32.400 woman and be centered in your masculinity. That happens all 1:22:32.400 --> 1:22:34.160 the time because they don't subscribe to the gender binary 1:22:34.280 --> 1:22:39.639 the same way. Sometimes, ironically, queer people are more secure 1:22:39.640 --> 1:22:41.680 in their masculinity than straight man and I hate it here, 1:22:41.800 --> 1:22:45.000 right and so I think Sway might be the man 1:22:45.080 --> 1:22:47.120 of her dreams, but is a woman. And I think 1:22:47.600 --> 1:22:50.760 there's something around being someone who is secure a masculinity 1:22:51.280 --> 1:22:54.360 and also secure with their queerness and not in the closet. 1:22:54.760 --> 1:22:57.960 And I saw Sway on my YouTube Sway got money. 1:22:58.680 --> 1:22:59.000 M h. 1:23:00.000 --> 1:23:02.440 I didn't realize swear was that rich money money. 1:23:02.280 --> 1:23:05.200 Hey in her mansion developing other wings. I said, oh, 1:23:05.240 --> 1:23:08.640 you got money money, And I've been informed by a 1:23:08.640 --> 1:23:11.000 little bird that you know porsia life people who are 1:23:11.040 --> 1:23:12.960 financially and fiscally responsible. 1:23:13.560 --> 1:23:14.599 Where would you get that from? 1:23:15.080 --> 1:23:16.679 Just birds? 1:23:17.200 --> 1:23:25.840 So and so Stray is fine, got money, secured the masculinity. 1:23:26.200 --> 1:23:28.519 I know she good with the sex. You see how 1:23:28.600 --> 1:23:30.879 she hold her hands. The hands are imported with the lesbians. 1:23:31.040 --> 1:23:33.080 So yeah, I porscha. I love this for you, child, 1:23:34.200 --> 1:23:35.160 And Sway got a cousin. 1:23:35.320 --> 1:23:38.920 I might tap back in, Oh okay, so Sway, if 1:23:38.960 --> 1:23:44.760 you're listening, if you have a gay cousin, oh my bad. 1:23:46.400 --> 1:23:51.719 At Blue Centric, Claudia Jordan did did Porsche finally find 1:23:52.160 --> 1:23:52.639 the one? 1:23:52.880 --> 1:23:55.920 When it comes to Sway, I'm sorry, I'm so distracted 1:23:55.960 --> 1:23:57.640 by your titties this whole show, Like every time you 1:23:57.720 --> 1:23:58.360 put your hands up. 1:23:58.360 --> 1:24:04.000 I see both aeros and it's like, yeah it did. 1:24:04.600 --> 1:24:09.960 Yes, our Carlos around they're red. 1:24:09.840 --> 1:24:13.519 Because it's local eggs and local eggs are brown. 1:24:24.520 --> 1:24:26.040 Is a motherfucking fool? 1:24:28.120 --> 1:24:32.040 Love me? What isn't the air tonight? 1:24:32.120 --> 1:24:32.479 I love it? 1:24:33.240 --> 1:24:33.439 Oh? 1:24:33.800 --> 1:24:39.479 Ship swearing here Tuesday? 1:24:40.760 --> 1:24:43.280 Well, don't ask me about saying because that it was 1:24:43.320 --> 1:24:44.920 in my tagline and it didn't work out. 1:24:46.360 --> 1:24:48.759 It was it wasn't my choice. 1:24:48.840 --> 1:24:50.560 They made me say that ship. I didn't say that. 1:24:51.439 --> 1:24:52.439 I knew it was a set up. 1:24:52.840 --> 1:24:57.160 Anyways, Enough about that. So I think Sway wants to 1:24:57.240 --> 1:24:59.840 be there to stay. I think Sway is very much. 1:25:00.000 --> 1:25:02.240 I feel like Sway is when thousand. 1:25:01.920 --> 1:25:05.479 Percent in love. And I don't know. I'm not Porscha's friends, 1:25:05.479 --> 1:25:06.680 so I don't know how she talking. Man. 1:25:06.720 --> 1:25:10.479 You know, Carlos is convinced, but it could be lest 1:25:10.520 --> 1:25:12.280 In the beginning, lust feels just like love, or it 1:25:12.280 --> 1:25:12.720 could be love. 1:25:12.920 --> 1:25:13.280 We don't know. 1:25:13.439 --> 1:25:15.120 Time will tell on that. I hope it is love. 1:25:15.400 --> 1:25:16.920 They do seem the light up around each other. But 1:25:16.960 --> 1:25:20.080 I also feel like Porsche loves love. We've also felt 1:25:20.080 --> 1:25:23.120 that about I mean about Simon, you know what I 1:25:23.200 --> 1:25:25.439 mean Like, I also felt with him like they seem 1:25:25.479 --> 1:25:27.080 to have some chemistry when they were out, when she 1:25:27.240 --> 1:25:29.599 was had that man in them club at three o'clock 1:25:29.600 --> 1:25:29.960 in the morning. 1:25:30.040 --> 1:25:32.800 He was tired, he was past his bedtime. He's exhausted. 1:25:33.800 --> 1:25:35.280 Nah, what. 1:25:36.920 --> 1:25:38.000 What was you gonna call him? 1:25:38.240 --> 1:25:44.920 Yeah, we all heard it, Claudia, you know what the 1:25:44.960 --> 1:25:47.240 gaslight me on a live television. 1:25:51.000 --> 1:25:51.920 A celebrity lookalike? 1:25:52.000 --> 1:25:52.120 Though? 1:25:52.160 --> 1:25:53.320 Who's his celebrity lookalike? 1:25:54.120 --> 1:25:54.240 Oh? 1:25:54.360 --> 1:26:03.720 They had said, yeah, oh wow, oh that's what they say. 1:26:05.400 --> 1:26:07.760 Why why why, that's how he was. We got the 1:26:10.320 --> 1:26:13.439 bad I fucked up the joke. Damn, damn, damn. Now 1:26:17.080 --> 1:26:19.160 there was a time that I remember seeing the you know, 1:26:19.200 --> 1:26:20.840 the clips. It was all over the internet. There was 1:26:20.880 --> 1:26:23.760 the clubs and they was beaming, smiling. The wedding, they 1:26:24.000 --> 1:26:26.320 both they it wasn't just him looking happy. They're both 1:26:26.439 --> 1:26:28.920 really happy. But I do think that there is something 1:26:29.000 --> 1:26:29.840 that seems. 1:26:29.720 --> 1:26:33.600 Very real about her and sway they do seem like 1:26:34.080 --> 1:26:37.640 they there is They're very very into each other. I 1:26:37.840 --> 1:26:41.719 I really do think that, and I hope for Sway's 1:26:41.720 --> 1:26:44.320 sake that Porch's series and it's not just lust and 1:26:44.479 --> 1:26:47.120 something different. But I think Porsche has been leaning towards 1:26:47.200 --> 1:26:48.479 us for a while, you know what I mean. So 1:26:48.680 --> 1:26:51.280 I hope it's real because I think they're adorable together. 1:26:51.400 --> 1:26:55.120 I think Sway comes off like the right amount of 1:26:55.320 --> 1:26:59.640 like confidence and cool and not like thirsty for a 1:26:59.680 --> 1:27:03.840 ten doesn't seem it does. I detect zero traces of 1:27:04.120 --> 1:27:07.919 using Porsche to get on. It does seem like very authentic, 1:27:08.400 --> 1:27:11.160 and for that, I hope it is for real, for real. 1:27:11.320 --> 1:27:13.719 It would be nice to see any of these relationships 1:27:13.800 --> 1:27:15.360 kind of like ride off into the sunset and be 1:27:15.520 --> 1:27:17.519 like they're forever, you know what I mean. Like I 1:27:18.360 --> 1:27:20.200 I love to see people that are happy, whether I 1:27:20.800 --> 1:27:23.040 friends or not. But I just love seeing black love 1:27:23.160 --> 1:27:25.320 and I think it'll be dope. And it also kind 1:27:25.360 --> 1:27:29.320 of takes a stigma off of the l in the 1:27:29.479 --> 1:27:32.479 in the community. You don't really see many representations of 1:27:32.520 --> 1:27:35.400 that on television. You really don't, you know, you really 1:27:35.520 --> 1:27:38.320 hardly ever see it. You see bisexual, but you made 1:27:38.520 --> 1:27:41.639 people on lesbian relationships and and in a place where 1:27:41.680 --> 1:27:44.080 it's not used for fodder for jokes, you know what 1:27:44.120 --> 1:27:45.080 I mean, Like you don't. 1:27:45.880 --> 1:27:48.400 The boys so especially yeah, the. 1:27:48.360 --> 1:27:49.760 Boys the front and center of the girl. You never 1:27:49.760 --> 1:27:52.360 see lesbian relationships kind of being featured on any real show. 1:27:52.439 --> 1:27:55.160 And and Judy that's like the only one. 1:27:55.320 --> 1:27:57.479 Yeah, and if people still make fun of it and 1:27:57.600 --> 1:27:58.080 talk shit. 1:27:58.240 --> 1:27:59.960 But I think this could be one of the ones 1:28:00.080 --> 1:28:02.320 that kind of like kind of blaze kind of blaze 1:28:02.360 --> 1:28:02.639 the trail. 1:28:03.280 --> 1:28:05.759 Yeah, I'm happy for Porsche. 1:28:06.200 --> 1:28:08.560 She seems genuinely happy her and so like doing a 1:28:08.720 --> 1:28:11.600 thing they live in life and then making memories and 1:28:11.880 --> 1:28:13.280 Porscha's daughter look happy. 1:28:13.560 --> 1:28:14.400 You know what I'm saying. 1:28:14.920 --> 1:28:18.200 Dennis is a nice person, you know what I'm saying. 1:28:18.600 --> 1:28:21.479 I feel like they figured it out, and they're figuring 1:28:21.560 --> 1:28:23.960 it out, and I'm happy for Porsche. And I actually 1:28:24.000 --> 1:28:26.080 admired that in fact, that Porscha don't give a fuck. 1:28:26.360 --> 1:28:30.120 Porscha is going to chase her happiness until she secures it. 1:28:30.479 --> 1:28:33.280 And I actually think that's something that, in a healthy way, 1:28:33.400 --> 1:28:36.400 we could all do well to mimic. You know what 1:28:36.479 --> 1:28:39.479 I'm saying, Like, focus on your happiness and chase that 1:28:39.600 --> 1:28:42.439 ship and don't give a fuck. With nobody say, I like, 1:28:42.560 --> 1:28:43.719 I'm happy about Porsche. 1:28:46.000 --> 1:28:47.719 Would you ever entertained? 1:28:49.680 --> 1:28:51.960 I like Dick too much? And I like a nice 1:28:52.160 --> 1:28:56.519 arm and a strong back, and I like I like 1:28:57.080 --> 1:28:57.879 I like Peenie. 1:28:58.920 --> 1:29:02.760 I like how ploral penises what penis is two or more? 1:29:03.680 --> 1:29:06.360 Well, I'm just not thinking of one particular one. 1:29:06.479 --> 1:29:08.040 So okay, I said that, friend. 1:29:08.600 --> 1:29:10.280 And then I like how it feels when it first 1:29:10.360 --> 1:29:11.719 goes inside you and it's new. 1:29:16.880 --> 1:29:17.519 At the beginning. 1:29:19.240 --> 1:29:20.280 You know what kind of. 1:29:21.880 --> 1:29:23.280 Any quiet for a second. I love where you go. 1:29:26.120 --> 1:29:28.680 I like that hold your sister right and you're like 1:29:28.760 --> 1:29:30.800 you're bracing for Oh, I love it. 1:29:34.640 --> 1:29:36.360 Not the model kicked one. 1:29:38.760 --> 1:29:39.200 I know this. 1:29:39.479 --> 1:29:42.040 I know this new bitch ain't trying me already, Jamie, 1:29:42.200 --> 1:29:45.040 you knew here. I know you ain't doing like that. 1:29:45.560 --> 1:29:50.240 We just didn't know each other. I know a new 1:29:50.280 --> 1:29:56.400 bitches not just take me off the screen. I'm gonna 1:29:56.400 --> 1:30:01.960 do to get you. You can have yours out and 1:30:02.080 --> 1:30:02.519 I can't go. 1:30:03.400 --> 1:30:09.719 Claudia, this is like fine, okay, Carlos. 1:30:09.880 --> 1:30:11.000 He said, first of all, this. 1:30:13.040 --> 1:30:15.320 You have, Jamie, I don't called you out your name 1:30:15.320 --> 1:30:15.880 and it wasn't even you. 1:30:17.160 --> 1:30:20.840 I agree with your Claudia me and Dustin Jamie, I 1:30:20.960 --> 1:30:21.200 love you. 1:30:23.600 --> 1:30:24.240 What do you think. 1:30:25.880 --> 1:30:28.439 I said? We agree with you. Me and Dustin like 1:30:28.560 --> 1:30:30.960 hearing that, so so. 1:30:31.280 --> 1:30:34.679 I'm I'm giving it. Shout up from the other side. 1:30:34.760 --> 1:30:36.080 That's me. I'm telling you like. 1:30:37.600 --> 1:30:38.800 I'm somewhere in the middle of l. 1:30:41.439 --> 1:30:44.160 Although this is not about black love the way Sway 1:30:44.320 --> 1:30:47.160 and Portia is, there's another lesson relationship that we got 1:30:47.240 --> 1:30:50.040 to get into, and that is Angela's daughter, Amari. 1:30:53.800 --> 1:30:57.400 What we all know is Angela Oakley and her daughter 1:30:57.520 --> 1:30:59.760 Mari am A so beautiful and so sweet. You can 1:30:59.760 --> 1:31:03.200 tell she's like a really good good girl. So sean 1:31:03.720 --> 1:31:08.320 love for raising such a smart, brilliant girl. They are 1:31:08.400 --> 1:31:12.320 having a family meeting. Charles Oakley is there, and what 1:31:12.439 --> 1:31:16.000 we learned is Angela said that when they eloped her 1:31:16.080 --> 1:31:21.200 daughter and the wife, that she never spoke to her 1:31:21.320 --> 1:31:25.960 daughter's wife about this. Then we learned from Charles that 1:31:27.520 --> 1:31:30.880 Angela feels left out because she is close to MARII 1:31:31.439 --> 1:31:33.760 and feels like she kept a secret for so long. 1:31:34.439 --> 1:31:38.479 Amari then facetimes her wife and. 1:31:40.080 --> 1:31:40.960 A lot of people on. 1:31:41.000 --> 1:31:43.880 Social media reacted because they did not expect a wife 1:31:44.000 --> 1:31:48.479 to not be black and were wondering if that had 1:31:48.560 --> 1:31:52.240 anything to do with the hurt that you see in 1:31:52.439 --> 1:31:55.840 Angela's eyes, which I don't think that. I think is 1:31:55.920 --> 1:31:59.160 what Charles said. I think that Angela is close to 1:31:59.240 --> 1:32:06.280 her daughter, and no mother wants to know that. I 1:32:06.439 --> 1:32:09.120 thought we were close, but we weren't close enough to 1:32:09.200 --> 1:32:12.120 where you did not inform me that this girl who 1:32:12.240 --> 1:32:14.160 you said was your friend and was cool with the 1:32:14.240 --> 1:32:17.839 family or siblings, is somebody that you ended up marrying. 1:32:17.920 --> 1:32:20.760 That's what I think of it. But Blue, were you 1:32:20.840 --> 1:32:23.920 surprised when you saw the revelation of who the wife was? 1:32:24.200 --> 1:32:26.240 And what do you think the real deal is? 1:32:27.120 --> 1:32:30.160 I was surprised, not in a neutral way. I just 1:32:30.720 --> 1:32:33.880 wasn't what I expected. I actually did expect more of 1:32:33.960 --> 1:32:37.600 like a Sway or someone black. I will say this, 1:32:37.720 --> 1:32:39.560 and I will shoot some belts of parents, even the 1:32:39.640 --> 1:32:45.160 most loving parent, when their child comes out, finds themselves 1:32:45.280 --> 1:32:48.120 having to mourn what they assumed their child's life would 1:32:48.160 --> 1:32:50.880 look like to make room for something else. I have 1:32:50.960 --> 1:32:53.560 a lot of clients with queer children who come to 1:32:53.680 --> 1:32:56.559 me who are very supportive but still have to mourn. 1:32:57.320 --> 1:33:00.320 So I think show aside. Can we just be for 1:33:00.360 --> 1:33:02.840 a second and say, any parent has to be like, 1:33:03.240 --> 1:33:05.040 this is not what I envisioned, and I have to 1:33:05.120 --> 1:33:06.840 warn all of that before I make space for what 1:33:06.880 --> 1:33:07.800 you're about to tell me next. 1:33:08.200 --> 1:33:08.439 Yeah. 1:33:08.560 --> 1:33:12.559 Also, in any relationship where you care about somebody finding 1:33:12.600 --> 1:33:14.320 out the entire time that you were not in on 1:33:14.400 --> 1:33:16.400 the joke and there was a premise that you didn't understand, 1:33:16.479 --> 1:33:19.840 it's still also jarring. Right, there's the morning the fact 1:33:19.880 --> 1:33:21.559 that what I thought for you is not going to happen. 1:33:21.880 --> 1:33:24.599 And also this entire time I was the only one 1:33:24.600 --> 1:33:27.759 who wasn't in on this. It is isolating, it is hurtful, 1:33:27.800 --> 1:33:30.479 and it's not homophobic to feel those feelings. And I 1:33:30.560 --> 1:33:33.240 think we sometimes act as if you're not doing cartwheels 1:33:33.240 --> 1:33:35.360 with a rainbow sticker on your ass, then you must 1:33:35.400 --> 1:33:37.920 be a homephed person. There are gay people who still 1:33:37.920 --> 1:33:40.360 have to figure out how to fight the internalized feelings 1:33:40.400 --> 1:33:42.760 around themselves about mourning. When I fell in love with 1:33:42.840 --> 1:33:44.600 a woman and thought I might end up with a 1:33:44.680 --> 1:33:47.519 woman I'm mourned having a traditional wedding, I was like, 1:33:47.600 --> 1:33:50.599 oh my god, if we do this, there are things 1:33:50.600 --> 1:33:52.160 that I am visioned for myself that I'm gonna have 1:33:52.200 --> 1:33:52.920 to revisit. 1:33:53.360 --> 1:33:57.320 So I was your mom cool when you came out, Like, 1:33:57.680 --> 1:34:00.320 did your mom have that same feeling? Like she still 1:34:00.320 --> 1:34:12.200 don't know. I just assume because your public figure. 1:34:12.800 --> 1:34:17.639 Okay, she don't they tell her that I'm funny. She don't. 1:34:18.520 --> 1:34:23.080 Oh my dad, look mother, My mother's only met I 1:34:23.160 --> 1:34:24.920 was in a serious relationship. 1:34:25.880 --> 1:34:29.040 I didn't mean an ore blude, Oh dare you. 1:34:33.280 --> 1:34:34.160 Well since we're here? 1:34:34.760 --> 1:34:35.120 Fuck it. 1:34:35.560 --> 1:34:38.160 No, she she met one girl who she thought was 1:34:38.240 --> 1:34:40.839 my friend. I was the daughter. She loved her, invited 1:34:40.880 --> 1:34:43.000 her on family vacations. When we broke up, she was like, 1:34:43.320 --> 1:34:45.439 why can't you keep any friends? She didn't know. She 1:34:45.520 --> 1:34:48.479 was just mean, wait, wait, no, no. 1:34:48.560 --> 1:34:49.719 I'm not I'm not being funny. 1:34:50.640 --> 1:34:53.720 I now understand what Angela's going through because I think, 1:34:53.920 --> 1:34:55.759 so you get it, that's that's exactly. 1:34:56.000 --> 1:35:00.360 I was the daughter, So I get it. She loved 1:35:00.479 --> 1:35:03.120 my ex and treating her like a daughter and didn't 1:35:03.120 --> 1:35:06.519 know what we were hunching. And so what happened, I mean, 1:35:06.640 --> 1:35:10.080 it happens, right, I'm paying sexual for real. But what 1:35:10.240 --> 1:35:13.280 happens is though there is a grief that happens on 1:35:13.400 --> 1:35:15.320 both sides. And I have friends who have come out 1:35:15.439 --> 1:35:16.960 the reason why I hadn't come out though, is because 1:35:17.000 --> 1:35:19.000 right after that relationship, I ended the following with a 1:35:19.000 --> 1:35:20.360 guy who waste a lot of years of my life. 1:35:20.720 --> 1:35:22.080 And so that was I'm gonna say at that point 1:35:22.080 --> 1:35:24.080 because it was a nigga showing up, right. But I 1:35:24.160 --> 1:35:28.360 will say this. I love the fact that focused Carlos. 1:35:28.680 --> 1:35:29.519 I love the. 1:35:29.680 --> 1:35:32.040 Fact not you out of cat members we're speaking of 1:35:32.200 --> 1:35:42.559 hr that this. I look, Claudia is the journalist. You's 1:35:42.560 --> 1:35:46.800 second notes. Thank you, Claudi, Yeah, I got notes. I 1:35:47.320 --> 1:35:49.639 love the fact that Angela is like, look, I don't 1:35:49.640 --> 1:35:51.400 care how you get here, get here if you can. 1:35:51.560 --> 1:35:54.280 She's like, at this point, I just want my daughter back. 1:35:54.560 --> 1:35:56.439 I just want to feel close with you. Fuck what 1:35:56.560 --> 1:35:58.439 I thought? What I hope fun? How we messed up? 1:35:58.720 --> 1:36:00.760 How do we fixed this? To me, that's the best 1:36:00.800 --> 1:36:03.320 case scenario for this. So one thing I will say, 1:36:03.439 --> 1:36:05.320 I have not seen a single bad mother on the show. 1:36:06.520 --> 1:36:08.559 That's one thing. Can we all put that off limits? 1:36:08.600 --> 1:36:10.960 I know Mama's was a topic. Can we all admit 1:36:11.040 --> 1:36:13.200 that they're good mothers. I think they're all good guys. 1:36:13.720 --> 1:36:17.360 Me's daughter, I don't. I think they all are great matriarchs. 1:36:17.400 --> 1:36:20.120 And I think sometimes we have so much fun making 1:36:20.200 --> 1:36:22.760 them argue like little Barbie dolls, we forget that they're 1:36:22.760 --> 1:36:28.080 real people. So yes, Daughter, Yeah you too, Kelly. Okay, 1:36:28.280 --> 1:36:36.680 you two girls. 1:36:32.880 --> 1:36:33.240 On the A. 1:36:34.680 --> 1:36:36.439 I don't even know if it has anything as much 1:36:36.479 --> 1:36:39.839 to do with the sexuality, you know, her being lesbian 1:36:39.960 --> 1:36:43.080 or not. Have you ever had a friend right that 1:36:43.720 --> 1:36:45.679 you think is your best friend or a really close 1:36:45.720 --> 1:36:49.320 friend and they get married or they get into a 1:36:49.320 --> 1:36:51.759 relationship but they stop sharing stuff with you. It hurts 1:36:51.880 --> 1:36:54.080 like not being left out of something that's so important 1:36:54.120 --> 1:36:56.040 to someone that you love. So imagine being a mother 1:36:56.120 --> 1:36:59.120 on top of that. And yeah, also throwing the fact 1:36:59.160 --> 1:37:02.400 that you thought that she'd have a traditional marriage with 1:37:02.479 --> 1:37:04.720 a man and maybe he'd be grandkids and all that. Yeah, 1:37:04.840 --> 1:37:06.559 I could see why she would be hurt. I could 1:37:06.560 --> 1:37:08.559 see both sides. And I also see why Daughter would 1:37:08.600 --> 1:37:10.599 feel like how bluefelt. Didn't want to disappoint the mom, 1:37:10.680 --> 1:37:12.080 and you know you don't want to you want to 1:37:12.120 --> 1:37:13.040 kind of keep it to yourself. 1:37:13.080 --> 1:37:16.519 I get it. So I like that we can see 1:37:16.520 --> 1:37:19.160 different family dynamics and different situations on these shows this season. 1:37:19.240 --> 1:37:20.800 I think that's what's up. I think it does a 1:37:20.880 --> 1:37:24.719 great service to a community. Once again, the lesbian community. 1:37:24.800 --> 1:37:26.960 You don't really get to see the ins and outs 1:37:27.000 --> 1:37:30.679 of that. We just really scratch the surface of gay 1:37:30.760 --> 1:37:32.439 men and how they are with their families. 1:37:32.720 --> 1:37:33.519 We're not even all. 1:37:33.439 --> 1:37:37.000 Over there yet, but we really never really hear anything 1:37:37.000 --> 1:37:40.080 about lesbians and like how they you know, that whole 1:37:40.120 --> 1:37:43.599 dynamic of disappointing in families mourning that their daughters will 1:37:43.640 --> 1:37:46.960 not give them most likely won't give them grandkids. 1:37:47.040 --> 1:37:48.880 So I thought it was a great I thought it 1:37:48.920 --> 1:37:49.800 was great that we saw that. 1:37:52.400 --> 1:37:55.840 Okay, so so yes, I think Angela Oakley is a 1:37:55.920 --> 1:37:57.479 great mom to her daughter, Amari. 1:37:57.760 --> 1:38:00.120 You know what I'm saying. And I didn't get have 1:38:00.200 --> 1:38:03.240 a very very keen I got a hound dog nose 1:38:03.280 --> 1:38:06.880 when it comes to homophobia, you actually do you know 1:38:06.920 --> 1:38:07.360 what I'm saying. 1:38:07.360 --> 1:38:10.400 I could sniff it out. So but I haven't had 1:38:10.439 --> 1:38:13.040 that feeling about Angela. In fact, it's been the opposite. 1:38:13.680 --> 1:38:18.160 And I now we're not gonna pretend like her daughter 1:38:18.560 --> 1:38:21.120 and her wife didn't look like them. We TV as 1:38:21.880 --> 1:38:23.599 love after lock up as couples. 1:38:23.640 --> 1:38:24.400 You know what I'm saying. 1:38:24.520 --> 1:38:27.960 That that is you know, it did look like a 1:38:28.520 --> 1:38:32.320 life after lock up dass relationship. You know what I'm saying. 1:38:32.439 --> 1:38:35.960 I think that that may have getting Angela some of 1:38:36.040 --> 1:38:39.080 her pause. You know what I'm saying, Like her wife 1:38:39.200 --> 1:38:40.719 did look like we TV. 1:38:41.160 --> 1:38:44.519 You know what I'm saying, Like it was very juvy energy. 1:38:45.040 --> 1:38:46.040 Yeah, very much. 1:38:46.120 --> 1:38:48.080 I could just see the two faces and that that 1:38:48.280 --> 1:38:49.840 fence from love after lock up. 1:38:49.880 --> 1:38:53.960 You know what I'm saying. I'm married, Hawaii. I could 1:38:54.040 --> 1:38:54.880 just see it, you know. 1:38:55.600 --> 1:38:58.400 But then you know, a car scene, she was all 1:38:58.520 --> 1:39:00.559 in the phone and ship like you know what I'm saying, 1:39:00.720 --> 1:39:03.080 just very love after lock up. But I did not 1:39:03.320 --> 1:39:07.400 get homophobic from Angela, and thank God for that. If anything, 1:39:07.479 --> 1:39:09.519 she's putting this shit, I think that is It's a 1:39:09.680 --> 1:39:11.000 very important. 1:39:12.800 --> 1:39:13.160 Journey. 1:39:13.280 --> 1:39:16.120 I hate using such a cliche term, but to share right, 1:39:16.320 --> 1:39:20.880 figuring out understanding and figuring out peace amongst a mother 1:39:21.000 --> 1:39:23.840 and daughter and queer daughter, and I think that that 1:39:24.000 --> 1:39:26.680 is something that's really brave for the show, both of 1:39:26.720 --> 1:39:29.040 them being here being from Chicago, and shit, y'all know 1:39:29.080 --> 1:39:33.160 how niggas from the Midwest are. I am niggas from 1:39:33.200 --> 1:39:35.600 the Midwest, you know what I'm saying, So y'all know 1:39:35.720 --> 1:39:37.800 how we are, and it's very hard. They are very 1:39:38.000 --> 1:39:41.760 they hold fast traditional gender roles and and and what 1:39:41.960 --> 1:39:44.639 you wanted for your kid whole time, your daughter's eating pussy. 1:39:45.040 --> 1:39:47.000 So you know what I'm saying. So you have to like, 1:39:48.520 --> 1:39:50.400 we have to wake up a little bit. And I'm 1:39:50.439 --> 1:39:52.840 glad that they are moving forward. It's good to see 1:39:53.479 --> 1:39:56.439 them finding that journey to peace. But that d wife 1:39:56.600 --> 1:40:03.120 and Amari, y'all know, damn well, it ain't even Amory. 1:40:03.120 --> 1:40:05.320 Because Amri is a beautiful girl. She looked just like her, 1:40:05.400 --> 1:40:08.320 Damn her pretty ass mama. She looked just like Angela. 1:40:08.400 --> 1:40:11.160 And I loved them also. I loved them doing that 1:40:11.320 --> 1:40:12.360 confessional together. 1:40:12.760 --> 1:40:13.920 I thought that was so dope. 1:40:13.960 --> 1:40:16.240 It made me I don't just felt like throwback Real 1:40:16.280 --> 1:40:19.520 House Whiles of Atlanta. But when they did her, when Amari. 1:40:19.360 --> 1:40:21.800 Held their phone, what she said, She's like, somebody wants 1:40:21.840 --> 1:40:23.599 to say hi to you. Some people want to say 1:40:23.600 --> 1:40:24.120 they miss you. 1:40:24.640 --> 1:40:26.800 She turned that phone around and all he's seen was 1:40:26.840 --> 1:40:31.000 that girl wife, her wife looking like we TV. 1:40:31.320 --> 1:40:33.160 That's what it looked like. You know what I'm saying. 1:40:33.479 --> 1:40:36.040 It wasn't extreme close up. It wasn't extreme close up. 1:40:37.800 --> 1:40:40.960 It was so you're saying that if the wife trying 1:40:41.000 --> 1:40:42.599 to like more swaggy, like a sway. 1:40:43.200 --> 1:40:45.840 No, no, no, I don't even think because Angela, she 1:40:46.040 --> 1:40:49.720 wasn't mistreating them. I just upon first glance, I. 1:40:49.800 --> 1:40:51.720 Know, I was a little like, do you think it 1:40:51.800 --> 1:40:53.880 looks like how someone looks has a little bit? 1:41:00.439 --> 1:41:00.880 I think what. 1:41:02.640 --> 1:41:04.719 If the wife like had a different look. 1:41:06.800 --> 1:41:09.080 That wasn't so we TV? Do you think it'd be 1:41:09.479 --> 1:41:10.520 will easily digested? 1:41:11.960 --> 1:41:14.880 No, because I'm just talking about me, really, my lands, 1:41:17.479 --> 1:41:18.839 are you talking about Angela? 1:41:19.320 --> 1:41:21.920 I know I'm trying to Hey, I'm just doing my job, 1:41:21.960 --> 1:41:24.519 trying to keep the show shady. It's been very shady tonight, Like. 1:41:27.600 --> 1:41:29.400 I need to move on. 1:41:29.640 --> 1:41:32.439 Okay, Carlos as nipples. We are in for a show. 1:41:32.479 --> 1:41:33.880 It's really Carls his fault, you. 1:41:34.000 --> 1:41:40.240 Know, really really really okay, che Michelle. 1:41:44.439 --> 1:41:46.720 Jesus and Whiskey, Carlos, Jesus and Whiskey. 1:41:46.920 --> 1:41:50.559 Ca Michelle Jesus and Whiskey and uh Kee. 1:41:50.640 --> 1:41:55.240 Michelle album is out I think in October, if I'm 1:41:55.280 --> 1:41:56.040 not mistaken. 1:41:57.320 --> 1:41:58.559 So look, they're at a party. 1:41:59.280 --> 1:42:04.160 The girls show up, Shamia brings receipts, and the receipts 1:42:04.600 --> 1:42:12.040 dustin our hoa finds for juice, Adurra bringing a horse 1:42:12.920 --> 1:42:18.320 with her rented friend that dressed up like jay Z 1:42:18.800 --> 1:42:20.120 from the Reasonable Doubt. 1:42:20.000 --> 1:42:25.240 Album cover, and the horse shited on the ground. The 1:42:25.400 --> 1:42:27.479 feet was over two thousand dollars. 1:42:28.200 --> 1:42:32.920 Drew said, if you needed help PingER taxes Shamia, just 1:42:33.400 --> 1:42:38.479 say that Dustin, did you think that Shamia was out 1:42:38.520 --> 1:42:42.360 of bounds for bringing the hoa receipt for the horse 1:42:42.720 --> 1:42:48.120 that allegedly Drew rented to be surprised by this guy 1:42:48.479 --> 1:42:49.719 that used to date. 1:42:50.160 --> 1:42:52.639 A former Atlanta housewife allegedly. 1:42:53.479 --> 1:42:55.400 I know he looked like he and Juvie, don't he? 1:42:56.960 --> 1:42:58.920 Every time I say, I'm like, why does this niggas 1:42:58.920 --> 1:43:03.240 look like a miscreant? You know what I'm saying, Nigga 1:43:03.280 --> 1:43:05.840 looks wayward every time I see it. I don't know, 1:43:05.920 --> 1:43:09.800 you just look like a bad and you know what else, 1:43:09.920 --> 1:43:12.040 black don't crack. So that's probably why he looks. 1:43:11.920 --> 1:43:13.479 Young like that, you know what I'm saying. 1:43:13.520 --> 1:43:17.479 We just we don't age as fast. But it was 1:43:17.600 --> 1:43:21.040 typical housewivalry. Of course Smia would give that bit because 1:43:21.040 --> 1:43:22.160 I believe it was a real. 1:43:22.040 --> 1:43:22.920 Fine from her ho a. 1:43:23.040 --> 1:43:25.880 Everybody knows h oo A's are a pain in the ass, 1:43:26.479 --> 1:43:29.240 so you know they will do something like that. 1:43:29.840 --> 1:43:31.080 It just makes no sense. 1:43:31.600 --> 1:43:33.400 And of course she brought it to the show, as 1:43:33.479 --> 1:43:36.080 she should have. I thought it was just typical housewife 1:43:36.240 --> 1:43:38.800 y and it gave us a little scuttle butt, you 1:43:38.880 --> 1:43:39.519 know what I'm saying. 1:43:39.560 --> 1:43:40.040 And that was it. 1:43:40.400 --> 1:43:42.719 Yeah, yeah, yeah, Claudia. 1:43:45.360 --> 1:43:48.200 Y'all know, he looked like he latched key stop playing, 1:43:48.400 --> 1:43:50.120 y'all y'all know, damn yeah. 1:43:52.320 --> 1:43:53.800 He was. He was uh. 1:43:56.360 --> 1:44:00.280 He was hm hm hm. 1:44:00.760 --> 1:44:03.400 You know when you go to see your maybe your 1:44:03.479 --> 1:44:05.360 niece or your nephew in a school play and you 1:44:05.439 --> 1:44:07.280 know they can and you know they can't act, they 1:44:07.320 --> 1:44:10.599 can't sing, but you gotta be like, oh they could. 1:44:12.080 --> 1:44:14.240 It was that kind of jay Z I was. I 1:44:15.439 --> 1:44:16.840 was girl, drew you in danger? 1:44:16.920 --> 1:44:17.560 Girl? What is that? 1:44:18.600 --> 1:44:18.640 What? 1:44:18.800 --> 1:44:18.840 What? 1:44:19.120 --> 1:44:19.680 What was that? 1:44:20.080 --> 1:44:26.880 I I I I'm sorry. 1:44:29.320 --> 1:44:35.960 If that's jay Z, I'll keep saying that in what were. 1:44:42.400 --> 1:44:44.799 I'm gonna I'm gonna excuse my I'm gonna give myself 1:44:44.840 --> 1:44:45.560 a doctor's. 1:44:48.360 --> 1:44:54.000 Okay, just just back away, back away. Second. Yeah, it was. 1:44:57.240 --> 1:44:59.240 But like a lot of things, I can't say because 1:44:59.640 --> 1:45:01.080 certain communities will come after me. 1:45:01.680 --> 1:45:13.320 Okay, leave it right there, Blue, thank you. Maybe you 1:45:13.360 --> 1:45:19.120 know what to do with. Claudia will come after me. 1:45:19.400 --> 1:45:30.880 I'm doing good, not nothing blue blue your thoughts? 1:45:32.840 --> 1:45:32.880 What? 1:45:33.880 --> 1:45:34.240 Okay? 1:45:36.120 --> 1:45:36.360 Yes? 1:45:37.680 --> 1:45:38.200 Nothing fit? 1:45:39.400 --> 1:45:44.439 Look man, mm hmm okay call you. I understand now, 1:45:44.960 --> 1:45:47.960 so you know right, we. 1:45:49.960 --> 1:45:51.200 Don't understand Claudia. 1:45:51.240 --> 1:45:51.880 That's the problem. 1:45:51.960 --> 1:45:53.559 Why you don't need to say nothing. 1:45:59.160 --> 1:46:04.400 You know what you get another girl? I got a 1:46:04.560 --> 1:46:09.640 mother like that horse got it. N I can't say that. 1:46:09.840 --> 1:46:12.000 I can't say that. But then you want me to talk. 1:46:12.120 --> 1:46:14.519 I don't know what you what you want? 1:46:14.720 --> 1:46:18.920 The community? God, you don't even know the word. 1:46:18.960 --> 1:46:24.000 I was gonna say, we all what does it begin with? 1:46:24.600 --> 1:46:38.200 Go ahead, baby, Okay, I'll meeting myself. 1:46:38.520 --> 1:46:39.320 It's no fun. 1:46:40.360 --> 1:46:51.240 Look man, not everybody is able. And remember me different, 1:46:51.800 --> 1:46:57.639 Please remember me different. It's for super Chatz girlos Okay, 1:46:57.960 --> 1:46:58.200 So the. 1:46:58.280 --> 1:47:04.360 Last why would you have the autistic girl? Go last 1:47:05.120 --> 1:47:06.520 read the room, Carlos. 1:47:11.240 --> 1:47:15.080 Everyone's autistic. So we're no. 1:47:15.240 --> 1:47:18.280 I got diagnosed book me for a long time. 1:47:19.880 --> 1:47:21.040 I'm going back on mute. 1:47:22.200 --> 1:47:24.400 Okay, So I want to move on. 1:47:24.640 --> 1:47:25.240 I want to move on. 1:47:26.560 --> 1:47:28.360 So came. 1:47:28.400 --> 1:47:34.720 Michelle performed her new single Jesus and Whiskey, and she 1:47:35.000 --> 1:47:37.840 also performed her hit B S O. 1:47:38.000 --> 1:47:39.360 P I love. 1:47:39.439 --> 1:47:41.120 When she gave the mic to the the girls, the 1:47:41.200 --> 1:47:45.639 other girls are singing, yeah, Drew Sodor's turn juice adorous, 1:47:45.680 --> 1:47:48.120 like I don't know the words, and I love to 1:47:48.160 --> 1:47:50.519 see like Cay Mishelle, like Drew, I love you. It's 1:47:50.520 --> 1:47:53.240 all good, like whatever, And I thought all the girls 1:47:53.320 --> 1:47:57.519 had fun. But what happened in the end when all 1:47:57.560 --> 1:47:58.720 of a sudden. 1:48:00.640 --> 1:48:05.400 Which which it just it happened so fast where Drew 1:48:05.479 --> 1:48:10.080 and ky Michelle were exchanging pleasantries and like, you know, 1:48:10.240 --> 1:48:12.320 I love you, I love you to a good job. 1:48:13.120 --> 1:48:15.840 You know, we had our issue at the beginning, and 1:48:16.000 --> 1:48:18.400 then the thing of Black was brought up, and then 1:48:18.640 --> 1:48:23.040 Drew got out her phone to prove with the receipt 1:48:23.800 --> 1:48:29.599 that Cay Michelle was responding to Black somebody that she said, 1:48:29.680 --> 1:48:31.000 Kim Michelle acted like. 1:48:31.040 --> 1:48:32.000 You to know this person. 1:48:32.600 --> 1:48:34.800 Drew brought it back all the way to the season 1:48:34.880 --> 1:48:38.920 premiere and said, even at Porsche's house during her event, 1:48:39.720 --> 1:48:43.400 you saw Black on FaceTime and acknowledge him. So they 1:48:43.520 --> 1:48:47.600 get into it and Drew falls on the floor and 1:48:50.800 --> 1:48:56.360 baby ky Michelle was taken away by security. Claudia, what are. 1:48:56.240 --> 1:48:59.679 Her thoughts on all of this? Because it literally came 1:48:59.840 --> 1:49:00.599 out of nowhere. 1:49:03.160 --> 1:49:06.519 M there's a lot of crazy going on here, like 1:49:06.640 --> 1:49:08.840 you just never know what came to show. You just 1:49:08.960 --> 1:49:10.840 never know what you're gonna get. Like it's calm, that 1:49:10.880 --> 1:49:13.240 it's not that it's up, then it's not, it's down. 1:49:13.320 --> 1:49:16.760 And it's like I would never feel settled or able 1:49:16.800 --> 1:49:18.920 to relax because you just never know where it's gonna 1:49:18.920 --> 1:49:21.840 go right, And I'm like, do they cut something out? 1:49:22.680 --> 1:49:23.720 Did they cut something out? 1:49:24.280 --> 1:49:29.960 The Hennessy huh? Allegedly allegedly, I'm so sorry, go ahead, 1:49:31.720 --> 1:49:34.120 we need to wrap up. I'm so sorry. 1:49:39.600 --> 1:49:41.839 I'm meeting myself because I'm so used to being silence 1:49:41.920 --> 1:49:42.840 on this platform. 1:49:46.560 --> 1:49:50.880 They when the light is green, I'm on when it 1:49:50.960 --> 1:49:53.519 goes red. Someone tried it, Okay, I'm gonna let you 1:49:54.040 --> 1:49:55.799 do this, Okay. 1:49:56.560 --> 1:49:58.400 So like they'd be saying I love you and stuff 1:49:58.439 --> 1:50:00.519 and then like a second later, like they've beyond ten. 1:50:00.640 --> 1:50:02.439 I'm like, what is this? What is the reason? 1:50:03.000 --> 1:50:06.639 Like I would be nervous, like always in that situation 1:50:06.720 --> 1:50:10.000 where you just never know what's gonna go left. I 1:50:10.000 --> 1:50:14.080 don't know why Black is so triggering for for kmashell, 1:50:14.240 --> 1:50:16.200 for both of them. Actually, why is he so triggering, 1:50:16.880 --> 1:50:20.040 Like they turn up over this dude that allegedly no 1:50:20.080 --> 1:50:23.400 one even messed with. You know what I'm saying, right, 1:50:24.200 --> 1:50:27.040 that's true, Like they really like Black is really a 1:50:27.439 --> 1:50:28.680 They need to go ahead and give him a half 1:50:28.720 --> 1:50:30.719 a peach or at at least a peach pit something 1:50:31.120 --> 1:50:34.439 because the way he is like able to activate, like 1:50:34.600 --> 1:50:37.200 they will be saying I love you, and then two 1:50:37.400 --> 1:50:40.600 it's like ten seconds later, black thing gets brought up, 1:50:40.680 --> 1:50:44.120 all held broke, loose, people falling on the ground, getting 1:50:44.160 --> 1:50:45.639 back up, people being vindicated. 1:50:45.680 --> 1:50:47.519 It's a lot, and I just don't know why, Like 1:50:48.320 --> 1:50:50.120 we need to dive deep into that next season. 1:50:50.560 --> 1:50:53.040 Well, I think the reunion that somebody mentioned, I think 1:50:53.080 --> 1:50:56.559 Andy's gonna mention his cases or whatever's pending. Here's the thing. 1:50:56.600 --> 1:50:59.160 I will tell Caelle some bail because I think for 1:50:59.200 --> 1:51:01.240 the most part I was on Drew side because k 1:51:01.320 --> 1:51:03.479 Michelle was, you know, shadow boxing. I kept on comparing 1:51:03.560 --> 1:51:06.000 her lady arguing to the empty chair on the train. 1:51:09.560 --> 1:51:12.479 It I lose it. No, But like this one time 1:51:12.680 --> 1:51:14.880 ca Michelle made sense because she said I was just 1:51:15.000 --> 1:51:17.400 being warm, Like when I see people, if I've even 1:51:17.479 --> 1:51:19.400 seen you in passing, I'm be like, hey, love and 1:51:19.479 --> 1:51:22.439 I'll like, that doesn't mean that we're close. And I 1:51:22.520 --> 1:51:25.400 think when ky Michelle said just because we were being 1:51:25.479 --> 1:51:27.360 warm this we were being close, a part of me 1:51:27.560 --> 1:51:31.200 was like, do we want to believe this? But then 1:51:31.680 --> 1:51:33.800 she said, hey, handsome, and then I was like, ooh, 1:51:33.880 --> 1:51:36.439 that that does feel a little bit off, came Michelle. 1:51:36.479 --> 1:51:38.200 I'd be wanting to root for her. I'm biased in 1:51:38.280 --> 1:51:42.599 her favor, but then she keeps talking, you know when 1:51:42.640 --> 1:51:44.719 you're rooting for somebody. And if they would just stop 1:51:44.800 --> 1:51:48.280 that sentence there, we could all agree that the fine, we'll, we'll, 1:51:48.320 --> 1:51:49.080 we'll take that sis. 1:51:50.800 --> 1:51:51.760 Yeah, I know all about that. 1:51:54.520 --> 1:51:58.080 Relationship you're talking about, by the way blue, and then. 1:51:57.960 --> 1:52:01.559 They keep talking like okay, wow, I don't know we're 1:52:01.560 --> 1:52:03.280 gonna end up here. That's came a shot for me. 1:52:03.320 --> 1:52:05.360 All season. I've been so close to her that she 1:52:05.439 --> 1:52:06.719 gets stuck and I'm like, damn. 1:52:08.200 --> 1:52:10.200 First of all, came Michelle started it. 1:52:11.160 --> 1:52:16.080 She started, I'm talking about season one, season seventeen, episode one, 1:52:16.560 --> 1:52:19.720 the minute that they were on that not even episode one, 1:52:19.800 --> 1:52:21.559 but at the beginning of the season, when they were 1:52:21.840 --> 1:52:25.400 in Dallas I believe it was or yeah, they were 1:52:25.439 --> 1:52:27.280 in Dallas and they were in the Sprinter and when 1:52:27.400 --> 1:52:31.000 when the comment was first made, Cay Michelle started this 1:52:31.080 --> 1:52:35.160 shit about Black. She started, He's the person who created 1:52:35.240 --> 1:52:38.320 an issue over Black. We all were like, where is 1:52:38.400 --> 1:52:41.400 this vitriol and this energy coming from for her? Why 1:52:41.520 --> 1:52:44.760 is she so passionate and upset about this? And Drew 1:52:44.880 --> 1:52:48.000 it felt misplaced. None of it Land or that Yoda 1:52:48.040 --> 1:52:50.479 like yo like he who or whatever she was saying, 1:52:50.520 --> 1:52:53.320 all of that shit, it just all felt misplaced. And 1:52:53.479 --> 1:52:57.240 so Drew has been sitting this season the whole time 1:52:57.360 --> 1:52:59.320 like why is this girl on my ass like this? 1:52:59.560 --> 1:53:00.160 Why is she? 1:53:01.439 --> 1:53:01.599 Why? 1:53:01.720 --> 1:53:02.720 Where is this coming from? 1:53:02.800 --> 1:53:05.120 And Drew defended herself and you can't get mad at 1:53:05.160 --> 1:53:08.240 her to me for pulling up a receipt that that 1:53:08.600 --> 1:53:12.719 that blatantly highlighted a lie that ca Michelle told because 1:53:12.800 --> 1:53:15.639 she do know who Black is and she did act 1:53:15.720 --> 1:53:18.120 familiar with Black when they was at Porsa's house on 1:53:18.240 --> 1:53:20.920 that phone, she acted like it was an old friend. 1:53:21.000 --> 1:53:23.200 Shout out to Phyllis Hymon. You know what I'm saying. 1:53:23.240 --> 1:53:26.360 She acted like it was an old friend on that phone, Okay, 1:53:26.840 --> 1:53:29.360 And she acted very like everything I just said. 1:53:29.760 --> 1:53:31.880 I tried very familiar. 1:53:32.120 --> 1:53:35.600 She did get Drew for pulling the ship up at 1:53:35.640 --> 1:53:38.840 the finale. I don't matter when I get my lick back, 1:53:38.880 --> 1:53:39.479 I'm gonna get you. 1:53:40.160 --> 1:53:42.360 And that's what it is, and that's fair. 1:53:42.880 --> 1:53:45.479 But the thing is this, I think there's a difference 1:53:45.520 --> 1:53:49.160 between I'm familiar with somebody and I know them, and 1:53:49.280 --> 1:53:51.600 I do think was a game of some mantics. I 1:53:51.720 --> 1:53:55.719 think Michelle was like, I'm aware of who he is. Listen, 1:53:55.880 --> 1:53:57.560 I'm aware of who Black is. It doesn't mean I 1:53:57.680 --> 1:54:03.880 know him Black because Tamar, I know Black because he 1:54:04.000 --> 1:54:07.200 sponsors ads on Shade Room for his his Because so 1:54:07.400 --> 1:54:10.320 I'm familiar with Black, I don't. I don't know Black, right, 1:54:10.680 --> 1:54:13.760 So I thought that came Mischelle was saying from that 1:54:13.920 --> 1:54:14.599 fascist point. 1:54:14.800 --> 1:54:17.400 Hey, look but I agree with you. You can't tell 1:54:17.439 --> 1:54:20.280 somebody went to bring receipts and and that's why for me, 1:54:20.800 --> 1:54:23.479 I will give Drew this. Drew was doing her job. 1:54:24.520 --> 1:54:29.320 It's a finale, and she knew finales are meant to 1:54:29.439 --> 1:54:32.840 be explosive and she wanted to prove her before the 1:54:32.920 --> 1:54:36.560 season ended. I am mad at Drew for it, right, 1:54:37.520 --> 1:54:42.839 I am mad that Drew slipped. I blame the culprit. 1:54:43.720 --> 1:54:47.280 I still would say, although doing her job, I do 1:54:47.440 --> 1:54:48.400 think Drew started it. 1:54:48.840 --> 1:54:51.920 No, wait, hold on, sister, because we got to get 1:54:51.920 --> 1:54:55.880 to the bottom of how do you I'm talking about Claudia. 1:54:56.560 --> 1:55:00.280 I'm talking to me talking. 1:55:01.000 --> 1:55:04.600 Yeah, but remember Blue, I'm a messy queen. You remember, 1:55:05.520 --> 1:55:05.800 got it? 1:55:06.400 --> 1:55:13.640 Like, ah shit, The point is okay, See, the point 1:55:13.880 --> 1:55:15.960 is you know what I'm saying. The point is. 1:55:18.160 --> 1:55:19.520 Right right, daddy. 1:55:19.560 --> 1:55:23.720 It was like, yeah, Claudia, point is Cay Michelle was 1:55:23.840 --> 1:55:28.520 lying and she started fucking with Drew all season long. 1:55:28.600 --> 1:55:30.480 She been fucking with Drew out of nowhere. I'd have 1:55:30.560 --> 1:55:31.120 left field. 1:55:31.960 --> 1:55:35.880 It never saw resolved that all them pleasantries they were 1:55:35.920 --> 1:55:38.840 exchanging was being ky. Michelle was being fake as hell, 1:55:39.320 --> 1:55:41.720 talking about she loved you, Drew and all the other stuff, 1:55:41.760 --> 1:55:44.160 knowing she can't stand Drew. She talking about her singing, 1:55:44.280 --> 1:55:47.240 talking about personal things like how much how far she's 1:55:47.320 --> 1:55:48.919 gotten in her career and shit. 1:55:49.040 --> 1:55:51.200 When they're on the exact same show. So that never 1:55:51.280 --> 1:55:53.800 made sense to me. But talking about how far Drew 1:55:53.880 --> 1:55:55.880 didn't get in all this just horrible stuff that you 1:55:55.960 --> 1:55:56.400 can say to. 1:55:56.400 --> 1:55:59.120 Somebody who's pursuing the career in the arts. And Cay 1:55:59.160 --> 1:56:02.520 Michelle has crossed all kinds of lines of seriousness. Right, 1:56:02.880 --> 1:56:06.480 she's went into a territory that takes it from like, oh, 1:56:06.640 --> 1:56:08.200 let's just have a little band turn and go back 1:56:08.200 --> 1:56:12.480 and forth to now character assassinations, all that shit. So 1:56:12.920 --> 1:56:16.880 now drew wrong she was, she restarted and reignited the beef. 1:56:17.000 --> 1:56:17.720 No she didn't. 1:56:17.760 --> 1:56:19.920 She called out, came a shell like and by the way, 1:56:20.320 --> 1:56:22.200 you've been lying this whole time, because here go a 1:56:22.280 --> 1:56:25.760 text message back from February when you called this nigga handsome, 1:56:26.120 --> 1:56:28.480 which is specific and that means you laid your eyes 1:56:28.560 --> 1:56:32.200 on him and and and identified his beauty as an 1:56:32.280 --> 1:56:37.120 identifying marker in it, in who he is, you know him? 1:56:37.440 --> 1:56:40.760 You lying, you started it, It didn't go nowhere, and 1:56:40.960 --> 1:56:43.879 now we're left with these this this rubble and debris 1:56:44.360 --> 1:56:46.080 from a beef that never even was. 1:56:46.680 --> 1:56:49.000 And Drew then fell on the floor trying to prove, hey, 1:56:49.080 --> 1:56:50.040 you a damn liar. 1:56:50.560 --> 1:56:52.960 She went down, but when she came back up, she 1:56:53.080 --> 1:56:56.160 had that phone out and she had that message from February. 1:56:57.840 --> 1:57:01.080 Okay, she had that phone out that said, hey, handsome, 1:57:01.160 --> 1:57:03.320 thank you so much. And when came Michelle seen him, 1:57:03.360 --> 1:57:03.680 she got. 1:57:03.640 --> 1:57:05.200 Hey, good to see you. 1:57:06.160 --> 1:57:11.680 It's good to see you too, green suit, soig up 1:57:12.400 --> 1:57:12.960 like came and. 1:57:17.480 --> 1:57:21.600 I agree because in the beginning wasn't like when Drew 1:57:21.720 --> 1:57:23.520 mentioned him what's her name? 1:57:23.760 --> 1:57:23.800 Ca? 1:57:23.920 --> 1:57:26.080 Michelle was quick to be like she knew him, right, 1:57:26.520 --> 1:57:29.400 But then when Drew held a narrator and said you 1:57:29.520 --> 1:57:31.080 know him, then it was I don't know him. 1:57:31.480 --> 1:57:33.040 So I'm like, which is it? 1:57:33.120 --> 1:57:35.320 And maybe she mean biblically like I think because she 1:57:35.440 --> 1:57:37.280 acted the second time like it was like like there 1:57:37.360 --> 1:57:39.040 was sauce on it that I didn't understand, but she 1:57:39.160 --> 1:57:39.800 was hearing voices. 1:57:39.880 --> 1:57:41.280 But d you didn't say they smashed. 1:57:41.400 --> 1:57:42.160 She just said and. 1:57:43.720 --> 1:57:45.000 She's back on that train clubby. 1:57:45.200 --> 1:57:47.640 Drew did not say she smashed. I feel like Michelle, 1:57:48.000 --> 1:57:50.000 it was almost like a guilty conscience, like are you 1:57:50.080 --> 1:57:50.400 trying to. 1:57:50.400 --> 1:57:52.480 Say that nowhere? 1:57:52.520 --> 1:57:54.440 People were like and that made it weird if she 1:57:54.760 --> 1:57:58.440 just said you knew him. Listen, Atlanta is small, and yes, 1:57:58.520 --> 1:57:59.920 people do being dms and black. 1:58:00.160 --> 1:58:00.440 Listen. 1:58:00.520 --> 1:58:03.720 He sends people cases of those foot hookers all the time. 1:58:04.080 --> 1:58:06.360 He's like, they're they're really good. 1:58:06.640 --> 1:58:08.760 No, I've had one, but I was like a case, yeah, 1:58:11.360 --> 1:58:11.880 they're really. 1:58:12.040 --> 1:58:16.200 Like yeah, and so like I didn't see like, I 1:58:16.320 --> 1:58:18.760 feel like it was Kay that escalated that to make 1:58:18.800 --> 1:58:22.000 it a bigger deal. When Judn say, oh, we have 1:58:22.120 --> 1:58:26.080 something in common, we both shared a man, she just said, yeah, 1:58:26.200 --> 1:58:28.400 I know, you know, like you know him. And and 1:58:28.520 --> 1:58:30.560 the fact that Kay was pushing so hard against she 1:58:30.640 --> 1:58:32.680 didn't when she started off saying she did. I get 1:58:32.760 --> 1:58:34.680 why you would be frustrated, and it may seem petty 1:58:34.880 --> 1:58:37.280 to bring it up seventeen episodes later, but I would 1:58:37.280 --> 1:58:39.360 probably be the same way, like, Yo, the entire time, 1:58:39.400 --> 1:58:41.600 you try to make me like I'm tripping. You made 1:58:41.680 --> 1:58:43.680 this big fight with me in Dallas, because I remember 1:58:43.720 --> 1:58:46.120 getting the calls from Dallas like, Yo, some shit happened 1:58:46.120 --> 1:58:48.040 on set of the you know we all heard about that, 1:58:48.160 --> 1:58:50.560 right with Yeah, the blogs like that something went down, 1:58:50.840 --> 1:58:52.560 and then you watch them like damn, why did the 1:58:52.720 --> 1:58:55.560 estate so crazy over this? Like it got to where 1:58:55.560 --> 1:58:57.960 it looked like they was about to fight over knowing 1:58:58.080 --> 1:58:59.880 a guy and not knowing guy, and neither one of 1:59:00.200 --> 1:59:03.040 aren't even accusing each other of being physical and intimate 1:59:03.160 --> 1:59:04.760 or him getting the draw, So why is this such 1:59:04.760 --> 1:59:06.400 a big deal? That's why I think there's more to 1:59:06.520 --> 1:59:08.600 it that even if there wasn't it makes us think 1:59:08.600 --> 1:59:10.720 there is And kay, I think you handle it wrong 1:59:11.000 --> 1:59:14.440 by reacting like that, because now something in your celebrity 1:59:14.480 --> 1:59:16.040 mad people are gonna say they know you that don't 1:59:16.040 --> 1:59:18.240 even really know you like that. That happens every single 1:59:18.320 --> 1:59:21.360 day to anyone that's even mildly famous, never mind someone 1:59:21.400 --> 1:59:24.200 who was really famous. Right, So like her reaction did 1:59:24.320 --> 1:59:26.000 not really fit, Like I'm like, why would you tripple 1:59:26.080 --> 1:59:27.800 like that? You could be like, oh yeah, girl, you know, 1:59:28.000 --> 1:59:29.640 I mean people all the time they be my DM 1:59:30.080 --> 1:59:31.320 and it just got it seemed. 1:59:31.080 --> 1:59:32.960 Now it seems like I want to dig now when 1:59:33.040 --> 1:59:35.120 I didn't. I shouldn't. We shouldn't be thinking that. 1:59:35.520 --> 1:59:37.280 But Claudia, what about that scheme? Do you think that 1:59:37.520 --> 1:59:40.520 maybe whoever? And we're not gonna say it, Shamia, because 1:59:40.520 --> 1:59:42.960 you know this lost speculation. But the difference between the 1:59:43.000 --> 1:59:44.560 first episode, cause I like where this is going. You know, 1:59:44.720 --> 1:59:46.080 I love to me some dateline, So this is like 1:59:46.120 --> 1:59:47.760 we have a little thing on with the lines with 1:59:47.840 --> 1:59:52.160 the record. The only thing that's changed from the first 1:59:52.200 --> 1:59:55.200 episode where knowing him wasn't a problem. So the episode 1:59:55.240 --> 1:59:57.360 in Dallas were suddenly just mentioning him. I didn't talk. 1:59:57.680 --> 2:00:00.400 What's going on, like she freaked out. Was by the 2:00:00.480 --> 2:00:04.280 time Dallas happened, somebody, according to Kate, Michelle said there 2:00:04.360 --> 2:00:06.960 was a scheme against her. So now if you think 2:00:06.960 --> 2:00:09.080 there's a scheme against you, suddenly things that might have 2:00:09.120 --> 2:00:13.080 seen benign previously have you on edge? Do you think 2:00:13.240 --> 2:00:15.320 that the scheme To this day we still know who 2:00:15.320 --> 2:00:17.120 the health if it was k or the voices or somebody, 2:00:17.200 --> 2:00:19.320 We don't know who told her the scheme, right, But 2:00:19.440 --> 2:00:22.240 I do think the addition of the scheme storyline, whether 2:00:22.240 --> 2:00:24.920 it was true or not or in her imagination, suddenly 2:00:25.280 --> 2:00:27.040 makes it feel like everything you did was seen with 2:00:27.080 --> 2:00:29.720 a different lens. At that point, it was have you 2:00:29.800 --> 2:00:30.440 heard about the scheme? 2:00:30.480 --> 2:00:33.600 Po scheme? I think she told us how the scheme? 2:00:34.280 --> 2:00:34.600 Yikes? 2:00:34.880 --> 2:00:36.840 No, Like, I don't think. I don't think that. 2:00:37.520 --> 2:00:40.360 Explain what did you say? Okay, maybe maybe something will come. 2:00:43.160 --> 2:00:47.640 Yeah, I definitely think somebody told her that a scheme 2:00:47.760 --> 2:00:49.920 was taking place. I definitely I don't think she made 2:00:49.960 --> 2:00:53.160 that up. But I do think I do think to 2:00:53.280 --> 2:00:56.640 Drew's point, and I will I will say this again. 2:00:57.200 --> 2:00:59.720 When came Michelle joined Atlanta House, while she was entering 2:00:59.800 --> 2:01:04.960 some thing that was new for her, and I do think, obviously, 2:01:05.160 --> 2:01:09.520 like anybody, you're pairing away, right, And I do believe that, 2:01:09.680 --> 2:01:15.400 perhaps to Blue's point that in her being new to 2:01:16.680 --> 2:01:19.600 see that this Black thing could have been something big. 2:01:20.120 --> 2:01:23.040 I definitely think, like Lewis saying, there could have been 2:01:23.280 --> 2:01:25.680 some thoughts in her mind, like are you trying. 2:01:25.440 --> 2:01:28.160 To add bodies to my situation? And I know that's 2:01:28.160 --> 2:01:33.120 a stretch, that's a stretch, but I think reality, like 2:01:33.240 --> 2:01:34.160 love and hip hop. 2:01:34.920 --> 2:01:37.000 Well you've been a love and hip hop, you do 2:01:37.200 --> 2:01:39.280 go into scenes thinking like when is the shoot on 2:01:39.320 --> 2:01:39.600 the draw? 2:01:39.800 --> 2:01:43.760 You have PTSD for sure, but here's my thing, Like again, 2:01:43.960 --> 2:01:47.400 my parfation with this cast once again is the same 2:01:47.640 --> 2:01:51.880 energy as not being kept for the same worst offenses, 2:01:52.000 --> 2:01:54.720 like this whole scheme about Black where no one's even 2:01:54.760 --> 2:01:57.040 accusing of him getting the draws right, But then there 2:01:57.120 --> 2:02:00.440 was Oystergate, right, and how quickly she is able to 2:02:00.520 --> 2:02:01.160 move on from that. 2:02:01.520 --> 2:02:03.920 But with Drew, it's an easy kill. It's an easy 2:02:04.040 --> 2:02:07.440 like tagging each other coming for her career saying she 2:02:07.520 --> 2:02:07.920 ain't shit. 2:02:08.320 --> 2:02:11.040 Listen, both ladies are talented in their own areas. Drew 2:02:11.160 --> 2:02:13.360 is a fantastic actor and she is a good singer 2:02:13.600 --> 2:02:15.360 ky Michelle. I don't know about her acting, but I 2:02:15.480 --> 2:02:17.520 can say she is a one I don't know because 2:02:17.520 --> 2:02:19.400 I don't have never seen her in acting, right, she 2:02:19.600 --> 2:02:23.080 is one a fantastic, exceptional singer. 2:02:23.280 --> 2:02:24.880 There no need for either of them to be dragging 2:02:24.880 --> 2:02:25.800 each other when it comes to town. 2:02:25.880 --> 2:02:26.840 Like they both agree. 2:02:27.120 --> 2:02:29.440 I thought those are very cheap shots being made and 2:02:29.480 --> 2:02:30.800 I don't think that shit was cute at all. And 2:02:30.800 --> 2:02:32.600 I think they need to stop, like knock that ship 2:02:32.640 --> 2:02:33.280 out because. 2:02:33.040 --> 2:02:35.120 I'm sick of I love you one scene than being 2:02:35.160 --> 2:02:38.840 a key a confessional gangster or saying stuff later and 2:02:38.960 --> 2:02:40.280 I just want to get everybody together. 2:02:40.440 --> 2:02:43.200 You don't it's given. It's like I don't know what 2:02:43.280 --> 2:02:44.480 to expect today tomorrow. 2:02:44.600 --> 2:02:46.920 Like I'm medicated, it's giving un meeticated a little bit. 2:02:47.040 --> 2:02:47.600 Yeah, I want to go. 2:02:53.000 --> 2:02:54.879 I think all these girls are insane. 2:02:55.440 --> 2:02:59.400 Well no, I and look, I will say that what 2:02:59.560 --> 2:03:02.240 we were able to see us the girls in me 2:03:02.320 --> 2:03:05.880 and take a picture. Like Claudia said earlier in the 2:03:06.400 --> 2:03:09.400 in the Live you know Angela asked me, are you 2:03:09.480 --> 2:03:10.240 in Portia good? 2:03:10.960 --> 2:03:13.080 And you know you could tell they wanted to get 2:03:13.080 --> 2:03:15.120 a moment. In the end, it fell flat. 2:03:16.320 --> 2:03:18.040 And look, that was that. 2:03:18.480 --> 2:03:23.520 But I will say this, bravo to the season eighteen cast. 2:03:23.880 --> 2:03:27.400 You know, this season, this season was talked about in 2:03:27.480 --> 2:03:29.720 the way that I haven't seen a very long time. 2:03:31.680 --> 2:03:35.240 It was really very entertaining and we all had a 2:03:35.320 --> 2:03:37.480 good time recapping it. 2:03:40.080 --> 2:03:45.920 So they drained me. Marlow Hampson shout out. 2:03:50.360 --> 2:03:52.440 So thank you you rain drops. 2:03:52.520 --> 2:03:55.320 I love you guys, I love you Claudia, welcome back, Dustin, 2:03:56.600 --> 2:03:59.600 I love you Blue, And I will see you guys 2:04:00.040 --> 2:04:00.440 next week. 2:04:01.440 --> 2:04:03.160 By you know, Joe