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Speaker 2: We're on the cus.

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Speaker 3: They're hungry to get better.

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Speaker 2: Peers running rice, spend to barrels. This way down on

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Speaker 1: We want to run by Piers.

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Speaker 4: These are the type of guys, the type of men

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Speaker 2: Tenter tap, pitch Christ Jed Harris.

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Speaker 5: Game day is every day.

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Speaker 2: Love the energy nicked by state Ley p Trey. Texans

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Speaker 2: have the ball on the pet and if you want it,

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Speaker 2: you gotta go working now.

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Speaker 5: It's Texans All xys.

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Speaker 4: Back from Dallas and ready to roll on a Thursday

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Speaker 4: night edition at Texas All Access from the Honday Texans

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Speaker 4: Radio Studio. John Harris got John McClain here. We're gonna

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Speaker 4: get Mark linked up. Technical difficulties, and if you know

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Speaker 4: anything about my radio career, you know technical difficulties have

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Speaker 4: followed me since two thousand and seven. So we'll get

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Speaker 4: it figured out and get Mark on the air, because

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Speaker 4: I know Mark's got plenty to talk about. But we

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Speaker 4: got the general joining us. John mcclan, how are you

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Speaker 3: My friend, I'm great. We don't need Mark. Tell him

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Speaker 4: I mean he took over the night last night because

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Speaker 4: I ended up going to Dallas to Big twelve Media days,

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Speaker 4: and your buddy Dave Randa had some really nice things

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Speaker 4: to say about Jalen Petrie. I'll start right there in general,

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Speaker 4: I've talked to so many Baylor grads and the first

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Speaker 1: You know we love him at Baylor.

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Speaker 4: Is he one of the more revered players john that

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Speaker 4: athletes that have been as revered as Jalen Petrie.

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Speaker 3: every Baylor football fan athletic fan knew the kid from Houston,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I got a feeling he's going to be general week.

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Speaker 3: First of all, the guy who made him play the

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Speaker 3: roy Drake's podcast. I'll read about it, but I don't

435
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Speaker 3: have the patient to sit through podcast unless it's the

436
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Speaker 3: Utopia Football podcast with Sean Pain and Me, Sean Payne,

437
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Speaker 3: Sean Pender guest in me.

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Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, I knew, I knew what you met. Well Mark, Yeah,

439
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Speaker 4: he'll love that.

440
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Speaker 1: He'll love that.

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Speaker 4: You need to bring that up with him. Uh, Mark's

442
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Speaker 4: not playing hooky, He's on the line.

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Speaker 1: I believe Mark.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I'm not playing hookey. The Poltergeists have somehow gotten

445
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Speaker 6: into the sports radio six ten the studio control room.

446
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Speaker 2: So here I am.

447
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Speaker 6: And by the way, Netflix, I know Johnny was talking

448
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Speaker 6: about the quarterbacks thing. But you got to watch the

449
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Speaker 6: Arnold Schwarzenegger documentary, which Johnny recommends to me, and I

450
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Speaker 6: think I can get a recommend it to the world.

451
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Speaker 2: It's so good.

452
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Speaker 6: Everybody should watch it, kids, adults, no matter what you

453
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Speaker 6: do in life.

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Speaker 2: You need to watch this documentary. But General, I got

455
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Speaker 2: a question for you.

456
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Speaker 6: So we had Frank Francie, voice of the Jaguars on

457
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Speaker 6: last night, and I asked him this.

458
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Speaker 2: I'll ask you this.

459
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Speaker 6: Who's the biggest threat to the Jaguar quest to repeat

460
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Speaker 6: as division champion in the AFC South.

461
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Speaker 3: The Titans because they have Derrick Henry and nobody as

462
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Speaker 3: a player like Henry. And last year when Ryan Tanneo

463
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Speaker 3: was healthy, they were five hundred six and six. So

464
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Speaker 3: you think if Tannehill were to duplicate that and the

465
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Speaker 3: Jaguars don't run away with it, then they would be

466
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Speaker 3: the team. They still have a good defense, the receivers,

467
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Speaker 3: says beg rebuilt offensive line, but it looks to me

468
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Speaker 3: like they may give Derrick Henry the ball more than

469
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Speaker 3: he's ever had in his career. And remember early in

470
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Speaker 3: his career he didn't get a lot of carries. You know, Texans.

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Speaker 3: I've written stories about, you know, how he's dominating him latantly.

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Speaker 3: He didn't do squad against him his first two or

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Speaker 3: three years. So I think we're gonna see more Derrick

474
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Speaker 3: Henry than we've seen of him at any time. Because

475
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Speaker 3: you talk about the ultimate throwback football. Mike Rabils gonna play.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Derreck, Henry DeMarco Murray was in Yeah. De Marc

477
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Speaker 4: Murray was there the first three years. He had one

478
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Speaker 4: hundred ten attempts, one hundred and seventy six attempts two fifteen,

479
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Speaker 4: and then at twenty nineteen that's when it took off

480
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Speaker 4: three h three three seventy eight and he got hurt.

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Speaker 4: He had two nineteen through half the season, and then

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Speaker 4: he had three forty nine.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's a lot of carries, and yet he's

485
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Speaker 4: physical enough to pull it off.

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Speaker 1: General, what do you got going on on.

487
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Speaker 4: Your various platforms and things as you try and get

488
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Speaker 4: a vacation as we can hear the seagulls in the

489
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Speaker 4: background right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sitting on the porch on the chest peak

491
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Speaker 3: bay of our house up here. We're gonna be up here,

492
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Speaker 3: going to Baltimore one day, Minneapolis one day, DC one day,

493
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Speaker 3: And right now I'm sitting on the ports on the

494
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Speaker 3: water drinking Natty Bou beer. That's probably why I said,

495
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Speaker 3: Sean Payne and I'm about to I'm about to write

496
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Speaker 3: an Astro's column.

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Speaker 4: I think, all right, well, stay busy on your vacation

498
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Speaker 4: and we enjoy every single minute we get a chance

499
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Speaker 4: to spend with you in general.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 4: Sicken Bears was great talking to David Randon. I was

502
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Speaker 4: thinking about you the entire time, my friend. Enjoy your time.

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Speaker 4: John McClain, thank you, sir.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. John. It was a lot of fun.

505
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Speaker 3: And Mark, thanks being on time next time?

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Speaker 6: Will you no problem?

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Speaker 1: The general throwing daggers on the way out. All right,

508
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Speaker 1: who's better?

509
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Speaker 4: I got a feeling is coming up on the other

510
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Speaker 4: side as we take you through Texans All Acts is

511
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Speaker 4: in a wonderful but hot Thursday evenings.

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Speaker 1: Stay right where you are. We'll be back in a minute.

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Speaker 5: Tixans All Access continues in a moment. Ticksans Radio is back.

514
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Speaker 6: We are hanging out on a Thursday night. Mark Vandermin

515
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Speaker 6: and John Harris, John McClain was with us, and Poltergeist

516
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 6: continue to plague the program.

517
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Speaker 2: But we will prevail. We will win no matter what.

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Speaker 6: All right, Johnny got back from Big twelve Media Days,

519
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Speaker 6: and Johnny, I want to know your biggest takeaway from

520
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Speaker 6: Big twelve Media Days. What's the first thing that comes

521
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Speaker 6: to your mind besides you posing in a pick with

522
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Speaker 6: Andre Ware and make me jelly that I was not there.

523
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I thought about it later. I was like, man,

524
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Speaker 4: you should have come. Man, we could have done radio

525
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 4: from there. You know, we could have gotten some coaches

526
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Speaker 4: from there. So that was something we need to think

527
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Speaker 4: about in a few because that would have been that

528
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Speaker 4: would be a good day. You know, Dan Hogerson was there,

529
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Speaker 4: you know, David and I mean all these you know

530
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Speaker 4: coaches I ended up getting soundbites from, you know, we

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Speaker 4: could have.

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Speaker 1: Got interviews talking about their guys. It was good.

533
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Speaker 4: The one thing I took out of there was Mike

534
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Speaker 4: Gundhy's an angry little elf.

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Speaker 1: He is an angry elf. He was asked, and.

536
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Speaker 4: I don't even know if if if it's I think

537
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 4: it's maybe gone beyond that now. But with Texas and

538
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Speaker 4: no you moving to the SEC in twenty twenty four,

539
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 4: Oklahoma State and Oklahoma, I mean Bedlam is one of

540
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Speaker 4: the great robberies in all of sport.

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Speaker 1: Well, that game is the game is dead. It's done.

542
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Speaker 4: They're not gonna play at the SEC, is gonna go

543
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Speaker 4: to a nine game schedule, They're only playing twelve regular

544
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Speaker 4: season games. Oklahoma is not gonna say, hey, let's take

545
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Speaker 4: one of these games and play Oklahoma State. So that

546
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 4: rivalry is basically dead. And Mike Gundy is Oklahoma State

547
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 4: threw and through. I mean, he played there and now

548
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 4: he's a coach there. But his press conference and I

549
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Speaker 4: missed part of it because I was talking to I

550
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Speaker 4: was talking to Dave Randa, so I missed part of

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Speaker 4: the press conference. But when I got back in and

552
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Speaker 4: I listened to the rest of it, I'm like, oh man,

553
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Speaker 4: he is not holding back at all. So this swan

554
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 4: song for Texas and Oklahoma in the Big Twelve is

555
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 4: gonna be bitter. I mean, there's not gonna be this

556
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 4: pat on the back. Hey, let's let's you know, hey Texas, thanks,

557
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 4: thanks are coming in. You know, no, it is not

558
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Speaker 4: it is not gonna be like that at all. And

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Speaker 4: I guarantee you the first time that that Texas or

560
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 4: OHU has some calls that go against them in a game,

561
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Speaker 4: whether they win or lose, oh it's gonna be on.

562
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Speaker 4: Texas fans are gonna internalize that. Oh you fans are

563
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 4: gonna internalize that it is going to be nuts this

564
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 4: year in the Big Twelve because of that, and you

565
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Speaker 4: know everybody can say to they're blue in the face.

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Speaker 4: Oh look, Texas is gonna you know, they're moving on.

567
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Speaker 4: We're gonna be fine. We're gonna be fine. And look,

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Speaker 4: I think the Big Twelve is gonna be is gonna

569
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Speaker 4: be fine when you lose Texas, know you though, and

570
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Speaker 4: that's gonna be tough. But I think U of h B,

571
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Speaker 4: y U U c F and Cincinnati coming to the

572
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Speaker 4: conference makes it a really good football conference. It's gonna

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Speaker 4: make it a really good basketball conference too. And Brett

574
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Speaker 4: your Mac, the commission of the Big Twelve, said yesterday

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Speaker 4: He's like, we think we have the strongest conference in

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Speaker 4: the country.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: I don't totally agree with that from a football standpoint,

579
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Speaker 4: it's the SEC or Big Ten.

580
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Speaker 1: But the Big Twelve is a sports conference.

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Speaker 4: Is gonna be stout at the two major sports in

582
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Speaker 4: football and basketball, and that I think is going to

583
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Speaker 4: help the profile. I think your Ma's got a really

584
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Speaker 4: good feel for where the Big Twelve is, where it

585
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 4: wants to go. He's done a great job promoting They're

586
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 4: taking a group of Big Twelve basketball coaches up to

587
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Speaker 4: Rutger Park this summer. I believe maybe the next couple

588
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 4: of weeks are going up to Rutger Park to really

589
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 4: just expose you know, the Big Twelve to Rutger Park,

590
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Speaker 4: Rutger Park.

591
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: To the Big Twelve, et cetera. So really really need

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Speaker 1: what they're doing.

593
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Speaker 4: But the bitterness that is there in Texas and ou

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Speaker 4: leaving is it's it's palpable. And there were there were

595
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Speaker 4: some snide comments thrown in even today. I was back

596
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 4: today here in Houston, but the Deputy Commissioner of the

597
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Speaker 4: the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 1: Was like, well, you know, it was asked, well, why

599
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: do you think Texas do you want to eve?

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Speaker 4: And they're like, well, they probably want to get beat

601
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 4: up by Alabama, just like they got beat up on

602
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 4: by Kansas State. Like whoa, So there's not gonna be

603
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 4: this like pad on the back, you know, see you

604
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 4: hugs and all that. This is gonna be kicking you

605
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 4: out the door. Don't don't let the door hit you

606
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 4: where the good Lord split it. It is gonna be

607
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 4: vicious this year in the Big Twelve, which makes for drama,

608
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 4: which makes for excitement, which makes for a lot of

609
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 4: fun watching college football this year.

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00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,479
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's no question about it.

611
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 6: And what you described this is like getting divorced, but

612
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 6: you still have to go to all the neighborhood parties

613
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Speaker 6: together for a while.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's no question there's gonna be bitterness.

615
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Speaker 6: I think a lot of people people know, but you

616
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 6: sometimes forget. This is gonna be a conference that's in

617
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 6: good shape. Like you mentioned, I mean, who won the

618
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Speaker 6: Big Twelve championship. Everybody in football Kansas State. They knocked

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Speaker 6: off TCU right as well as TCU did playing for

620
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Speaker 6: the national championship, So that bodes.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think.

622
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Speaker 6: And when you add UCF, when you add b obviously

623
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Speaker 6: the Coogs are going to benefit from this. But look,

624
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 6: the Koog's are the kind of team, sort of a

625
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 6: sleeping giant, that they could help the conference an awful lot.

626
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 6: I mean, they could if they grow to the status

627
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Speaker 6: that they had in the Bill Yeomen era or even

628
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Speaker 6: after that Andre Wearing company knocking off Texas sixty something

629
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Speaker 6: to very little when they played back in the Southwest

630
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Speaker 6: Conference days and Drey was doing so well win the

631
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Speaker 6: Heisman Trophy, and the days before that, obviously in the seventies.

632
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Speaker 6: I think that this is going to be really interesting

633
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Speaker 6: to follow us. So I'm glad you went up there

634
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 6: and I know you connected with some people we're gonna

635
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 6: hear from tomorrow night related to Houston Texans currently on

636
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 6: the roster, because we do have some big twelve influence there.

637
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I had a chance to catch up with I

639
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 4: caught up with TCU players.

640
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Speaker 1: I talked to linebacker Jamoy Hodge.

641
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 4: I talked to Bud Clark, safety and also cornerback Josh Newton,

642
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Speaker 4: and I just was like, Hey, give me y'all thoughts

643
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 4: on Dylan Horton, and they're.

644
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Speaker 1: Like, oh, man, I mean they just they were.

645
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 4: Interested to talk to you. They really appreciated him. Then

646
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 4: I talked to Dan Horgerson about Tank Dell. He had

647
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,239
Speaker 4: some really interesting stuff to say about Tank. And then

648
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 4: I caught up with Dave Randa, head coach at Baylor,

649
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 4: and I kind of had to work for that one.

650
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 4: I kept trying to find him at different spots, and

651
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 4: brent Ingram, whose assistant ad and is the basically the

652
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 4: Omar Maju for Baylor football. He was just awesome and

653
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 4: he was like, look, we got to go to this

654
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Speaker 4: thing on the other side, you know, kind of in

655
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Speaker 4: the corridor.

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Speaker 1: Can you meet us over there?

657
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Speaker 4: I said yeah, and I said you know, will coach

658
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Speaker 4: want to talk about Jalen Petrie because there's some guys

659
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Speaker 4: when they graduate or move on, coaches are like, man,

660
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Speaker 4: I'm glad that guy's gone. When coach Randa found out

661
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Speaker 4: I wanted to ask him about Jalen Petrie, He's like,

662
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Speaker 4: I got all the time you need, and so I

663
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Speaker 4: you know, I didn't want to take too much time,

664
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Speaker 4: but he gave me some great stuff. And I'll give

665
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Speaker 4: you this little nugget mark about Jalen Petrie and Dave Brandon.

666
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Speaker 4: Dave was, you know, he was telling me all these

667
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Speaker 4: off the field things and I was like, Okay, my

668
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 4: second question will be on the field. Well, he just

669
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Speaker 4: jumped right in and said on the field. He started

670
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Speaker 4: talking about what they did with Jalen at Baylor, and

671
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Speaker 4: you know how he stuck around, you know, after the

672
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Speaker 4: changing coaches and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: You get a lot of credit to Matt Rule.

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Speaker 4: And he said, you know, in his last year Baylor,

675
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Speaker 4: he said, you know, they they allowed Jalen to do

676
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Speaker 4: some you know, some things he hadn't done before, but

677
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Speaker 4: he didn't always kind of know how to do them.

678
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Speaker 4: He just kind of reacted and so he would do

679
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Speaker 4: different things in particular, like when he would rush or

680
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Speaker 4: blitz from the outside, he wasn't supposed to go inside,

681
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 4: but he would go inside sometimes when he wasn't supposed to.

682
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 4: And he said, just like the Pistons came up with

683
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Speaker 4: the Jordan Rules for when they faced Michael Jordan, Dave

684
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 4: dr Anna and their defense came up with what they

685
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Speaker 4: called the Jalen Rules for Baylor football for the defense

686
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Speaker 4: in how they would react when Jalen would just do something.

687
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Speaker 4: So it allowed Jalen to just kind of go and

688
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Speaker 4: do his thing, kind of like JJ did JJ Watt

689
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 4: did here in Houston, and everybody would kind of play

690
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Speaker 4: off of that. So Jalen would just go and do

691
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 4: his thing, and everybody had had these rules that were

692
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 4: baked into their responsibility based on what Jalen did on

693
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 4: that particular play. I thought that it was pretty cool,

694
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Speaker 4: and you'll hear him talk about that tomorrow night. And

695
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Speaker 4: then finally, and this is a good one, I caught

696
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Speaker 4: up with Bruce Feldman from the Athletic and Bruce was

697
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Speaker 4: really really high on CJ.

698
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Speaker 1: I mean tru.

699
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Speaker 4: I heard a clip probably a couple weeks for the draft,

700
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Speaker 4: and he was talking about how he thought CJ was

701
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Speaker 4: the number one guy.

702
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: He thought he was above Bryce. He had seen him

703
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Speaker 1: at the Altar and eleven.

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Speaker 4: He had seen him at the opening that was up

705
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Speaker 4: in Dallas when Gerra Johnson was coaching him. And he

706
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Speaker 4: gave me great background on CJ.

707
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Speaker 1: Stroud.

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Speaker 4: He gave me great stuff on Will Anderson. And he

709
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Speaker 4: tells a great story about Demiko Ryans. He uncovered Demiko

710
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Speaker 4: when he was playing, but he got a chance to

711
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Speaker 4: meet Demko at a National Championship game out in Santa

712
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Speaker 4: Clara a few years ago, and so Bruce has got

713
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Speaker 4: a really great story about that. So you'll hear all

714
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 4: that on tomorrow night's show. That I was able to

715
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Speaker 4: procure from Dallas or Arlington during Big twelve media days,

716
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Speaker 4: talking about the Texans young guys, Demiko Ryans.

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Speaker 1: It was a good time.

718
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 4: I'm glad, But next year we got to plan for

719
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Speaker 4: both of us to go up there. We can even

720
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 4: get a lot more do our radio show from up there.

721
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Speaker 4: It's a really it's the first one. You know, media

722
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 4: days are gonna be taking place all next week. You

723
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Speaker 4: got big, you got the sec you know the Big

724
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Speaker 4: ten after that, which you get interesting, got packed twelve.

725
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 4: So you got all that going on, but it was

726
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 4: good that the Big twelve kind of kicked it off.

727
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Speaker 1: Arlington and Mark.

728
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Speaker 4: I hate to say this, but I'm gonna you know

729
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 4: how Andry and John have confessions. I'm gonna confess that

730
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 4: building is tremendous. Man A fine to say that that

731
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Speaker 4: at and T Stadium is just tremendous.

732
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Speaker 2: I mean, well, I'm gonna tell you something though that building.

733
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Speaker 2: Here's my take. Here's my take on Jerry World.

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Speaker 6: It is a phenomenal facility, and I don't think it's

735
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Speaker 6: a great home field advantage, and I think both things

736
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Speaker 6: can be true. Right, It's a great place to go.

737
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Speaker 6: It's a spectacle. It's a giant football mall. It's got

738
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Speaker 6: the big screen, it's got the dancing girls. I'm not

739
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Speaker 6: calling the Dallas Cowboy Year later leaders dancing girls. They

740
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Speaker 6: have other dancing girls there, and they have live bands,

741
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 6: and they've got all the entertainment. Now, a lot of

742
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 6: the new stadiums a lot, there's so many, but there

743
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 6: are several, Like the Raiders Stadium out in Vegas. I

744
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 6: got a sort of cowboy vibe except in Raider Black.

745
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 6: You know from that stadium and I just think it's

746
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 6: a great facility in Dallas. I really do in Arlington,

747
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 6: but I don't think it's a terrific home field advantage.

748
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 6: It's weird how you can have the home team driving

749
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Speaker 6: into the blinding sun at the end of the day

750
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Speaker 6: when they're trying.

751
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: To get a winning drive mounted. I think that was

752
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Speaker 2: a mistake too.

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Speaker 6: And look, there's probably more to it that I know

754
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 6: to position it that way, But whatever, I love going there.

755
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 6: The booth is terrific for us. It's fun. There's a

756
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 6: bathroom in the broadcast booth, Johnny, that's amazing. I could

757
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 6: have a sweet party in the broadcast booth. So I

758
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 6: love that place, except I don't think it's a great

759
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 6: home home field advantage. Now, both games that Texans have

760
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 6: played there have gone into the final moments. One went

761
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 6: into overtime, the other. Didn't they get it on fourth down?

762
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Speaker 1: Johnny?

763
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Speaker 2: Did they get it on fourth down?

764
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Speaker 6: The Cowboys got their winning TD on fourth down.

765
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Speaker 4: It wasn't on fourth down, but but I think they

766
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Speaker 4: had to convert.

767
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Speaker 1: It was it was third or fourth down they had

768
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Speaker 1: to get in.

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Speaker 4: And I was standing right at the spot that Zeke,

770
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Speaker 4: you know, ran past me and I was just like

771
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 4: reliving it, Like, oh, I was talking to somebody at

772
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 4: that point and I was like, yeah, you know, we're

773
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Speaker 4: talking about the season, we're talking about that game. And

774
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 4: I was like yeah, man, I was like, I was

775
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 4: standing right here when Zeke scored a touchdown, you know,

776
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 4: right in front of me. So yeah, it's oh gosh,

777
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 4: those two games. Of course you think about that. I've

778
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 4: thought about that yesterday is I'm going in this in

779
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 4: this building, and I'm like, we've never beaten him up there.

780
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 4: And the two games that I've been on the sidelines

781
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 4: for have been unbelievable football games. I mean, incredibly emotional

782
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 4: football games, and they've gotten us both times.

783
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Speaker 1: And it's just a killer.

784
00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 2: Yeah it is. It's tough.

785
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 6: But next time here, let's do business, all right, Coming

786
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,479
Speaker 6: up next, I want to do this with you. Gut

787
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 6: reaction to a few things, including, but not limited to,

788
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 6: I listened to a Ringer podcast. I made the mistake

789
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 6: of listening to a national podcast about the AFC South,

790
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 6: and the stuff they said about the Texans was was

791
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 6: largely incorrect. And I'm not talking about the opinion stuff either.

792
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 6: We'll get to that next here. On Texans Radio, back.

793
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 5: To the show they teach you plugged in with the

794
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 5: Houston Texans.

795
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Speaker 6: All right, Mark Vandamar and John Harris with you some

796
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 6: gut reaction stuff, some stuff that I reacted to regarding

797
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 6: a national podcast. But Johnny Quinn Williams signing with the Jets,

798
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 6: no big surprise here. He gets one more million guaranteed

799
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 6: that Aaron Donald's deal. That's the stuff I look out for.

800
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Speaker 6: What's guaranteed? I guess it's sixty six versus sixty five.

801
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 6: Thoughts on Quentin Williams Texans likely to see him December tenth.

802
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was hoping that they wouldn't, but you know,

803
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 4: you're gonna get it done with their stud players.

804
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: And he is an absolute monster. I mean he's you know, when.

805
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 4: You look at this, I think it's the sixth highest

806
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 4: paid interior defensive lineman. You know, guys have just gotten

807
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 4: paid recently, Jeffrey Simmons.

808
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: Being one of those, are on pain Jonathan Allen.

809
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 4: Of the six, I think Quinn's the most He's the

810
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 4: most high. He's the highest paid, I believe, and I

811
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,720
Speaker 4: think Chris Jones will go above him when Chris Jones

812
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 4: gets a deal done here soon. But point being of

813
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 4: the sixth right now of the highest paid four of them,

814
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 4: the Texans had to face all I think back to

815
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 4: back to back to back.

816
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Speaker 1: Last year, Williams was not one of them.

817
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 4: But they will see him in December, and I think

818
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 4: he is the key to what they do defensively, everything

819
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 4: they do defensively, he's the key.

820
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Speaker 1: So good for the Jets getting that done.

821
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Speaker 4: They won't have any drama, as it pertains the hard

822
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 4: knocks with that, So that'll be kind of interesting the

823
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 4: fact that they get that deal done and now Chris

824
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 4: Jones are the Chiefs, will see what he gets based

825
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 4: on what Quinn Williams got.

826
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Speaker 6: Betting favorite to land DeAndre Hopkins is the Tennessee Titans.

827
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 6: Also the team that Frank Frangie boys at the Jaguars

828
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Speaker 6: and the General John McClain think is the biggest threat

829
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Speaker 6: to the Jaguars bid to repeat as AFC South champions.

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Speaker 2: Do you agree on both fronts?

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Speaker 4: I think so and General sen Derrick Henry and you know, look,

832
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 4: it depends on a little bit how long Ryan Tannehill

833
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 4: could stay healthy and how long he can stay effective.

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Speaker 1: So that's gonna be an interesting one to watch right there.

835
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Speaker 4: But when you can turn around, you can the ball

836
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 4: Derrick Henry and do it over and over and over again.

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Speaker 4: We'll see whether Tim Kelly wants to do that. Tim

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00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 4: Kelly new offensive coordinator, play caller for the Titans. We'll

839
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Speaker 4: see if that's something that he wants to do on

840
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Speaker 4: a regular basis.

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Speaker 1: Now here's the other thing. That offensive line is not

842
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Speaker 1: gonna be in great shape.

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00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 4: Derrick Henry is running behind Taylor Luan, Ben Jones, Rogers saffold.

844
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Speaker 4: There are some dudes up there. They don't have dudes

845
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Speaker 4: on an offensive line anymore. So Derek Henry's going to be,

846
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 4: you know, pounding his head against a lot of concrete

847
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Speaker 4: if he's gonna run it three hundred and seventy five

848
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 4: four hundred times this year. So it's not gonna be

849
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Speaker 4: the free running downhill lanes he used to get. And

850
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Speaker 4: I think that's gonna be a big, big factor for

851
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 4: Tennessee if they can provide some openings for him. Okay,

852
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 4: things changed, but I don't know that they're going to

853
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 4: get there. But that defense is stout. I mean that

854
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 4: defense is legit. So that defense will keep him in games.

855
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 4: And watching the Quarterback documentary on Netflix, that's one of

856
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 4: the things Patrick Mahomes spent a lot of time talking about,

857
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Speaker 4: I think in episode three or four, can remember, which

858
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 4: talking about the Tights defense and how tough that Titans

859
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 4: defense makes it on them, And obviously we know the

860
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Speaker 4: Tights defense makes a tough on everybody.

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Speaker 6: Hey, do you think they drafted Taj Spears because they

862
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 6: were unhappy or maybe not thrilled to say to say

863
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 6: it lightly about Hassan Haskins and his performance last year

864
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,439
Speaker 6: in not a ton of action, but he did see

865
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 6: action and they got a good look at him.

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00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they just needed something different.

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Speaker 3: Mark.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Dereck Henry is, you know, he's the He's

869
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 4: an F three to fifty, whereas Taj Spears is you know,

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Speaker 4: he's an Alpha Romeo. I mean, they're they're completely different cars.

871
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Speaker 4: Whereas Hassan Haskins was just a he was a beat

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Speaker 4: up F three fifty. It's kind of the same thing

873
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Speaker 4: as Derrick Henry. So I think they wanted diversification in

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00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 4: that offense, to be honest, and I think what they

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00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 4: see with Taj Spears is And we talked about this

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00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 4: during the game a lot in the game at Tennessee

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Speaker 4: in particular, what did Dre bring up a lot in

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00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 4: that game? Why do they keep taking Henry out on

879
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 4: third down and they're going to Haskins. Well, Haskins can't

880
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 4: give him anything on third down. Taj Spears can give

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00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 4: them something on third down. And so now they get

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00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 4: value on third down with Taj Spears and give Derrick

883
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 4: Henry a rest, and that I think is going to

884
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 4: help that offense that much more, especially when Ryan Tannehill

885
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 4: comes back. So I think Spears, you know, coach London.

886
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 4: London got a really good up close look at Taja

887
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 4: Spears when he was there coaching the Senior Bowl, So

888
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 4: they I think that's a really kind of sneaky you know.

889
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 4: Texas went and got Devin Singletary. Uh, they went and

890
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Speaker 4: got the rookie version of Devin Singletary and Taja Spears.

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Speaker 3: Hey.

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Speaker 6: So I was listening to the Ringer NFL podcast and

893
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 6: they broke down the AFC South.

894
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Speaker 2: It was pretty interesting.

895
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Speaker 6: They went Jaguars, predictable, Titans. They disagreed on second place, Titans,

896
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 6: Cold Simmons wasn't doing it, and then the Texans then fourth.

897
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 6: But they were talking about the Miko Ryans and they

898
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 6: said Yeah, he gained a lot by playing for Nick

899
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Speaker 6: Saban and he also played for Romeo Crenell. And I thought,

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Speaker 6: oh my gosh, please stop and look, I don't want

901
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Speaker 6: to call people out for that.

902
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 2: I've made mistakes too, but not like that. Uh So

903
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 2: I just did. It's terrible something got a fact check that.

904
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Have you listened at all to Jordan Rodrieg's from the

906
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Speaker 4: Athletic Her Play the Play Caller podcast.

907
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: No, I need to. I know I heard me talking

908
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 2: about it with mc Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I talked about it with him a little bit.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I had, you know, seven and a half

911
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 4: eight hours of drive so I could finish you know,

912
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 4: five episodes. It was really interesting and there's it's interesting

913
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 4: to Texans fans too because they talk about their time

914
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 4: in Houston all together and what they what they were doing,

915
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 4: and Mike McDaniel was really interesting his impact on all

916
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 4: of their schemes, and Mike's a really interesting guy. And

917
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 4: he talked about how Kubiak fired him and it was

918
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Speaker 4: the best thing to happened in his career. So, I mean,

919
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 4: you don't love, you know, pumping up other people's podcasts

920
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 4: and such, but this one is really Jordan Ruder did

921
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 4: a hell of a job talking about it, and of

922
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Speaker 4: course with Bobby Slowe coming into the offensive coordinator for

923
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Speaker 4: the Texans, you listen to what they're talking about and

924
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 4: how they're going about it, and you're like, okay, well.

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Speaker 1: How is Bobby gonna is his offense gonna be more like.

926
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Speaker 4: McVeigh, mfloor, McDaniel or Shanahan which one? And I know

927
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 4: he's with Shanahan, but this to evolve into one of

928
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Speaker 4: the others because mcvay's offense. He thought it was gonna

929
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 4: be more like Shane Hans, but then when he got

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00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 4: to La it was like whoa. They scrapped it all.

931
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Speaker 4: They didn't want to be a twelve personal team. They

932
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 4: ended up being a eleven personnel team because they had

933
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 4: the receiver the receivers in one of the guys. They

934
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Speaker 4: talked about Robert Woods and how important he was to

935
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Speaker 4: what they did. So there's a lot of good stuff

936
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Speaker 4: in that podcast as it retains to the Texans by

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Speaker 4: Jordan Rodriguez the athletic.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, you know, Bobby Slowik is really happy Robert

939
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Speaker 6: Woods is on this team.

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Speaker 2: I mean he will use Robert Woods, who can.

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Speaker 6: Blockcatch, do a whole bunch of stuff for you that

942
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Speaker 6: don't underestimate the blocking part of it. All Right, Tomorrow

943
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Speaker 6: a lot of your Big twelve stuff will be on

944
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Speaker 6: the show.

945
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Speaker 2: We'll get to some other stuff as well.

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Speaker 6: I've got an article today seven one three day. We

947
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Speaker 6: got a lot of fun seven to one to three

948
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Speaker 6: stuff on Houston Texans dot com and the Texans app.

949
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 6: I wrote something and it lists all the players who

950
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Speaker 6: ever wore seven or thirteen or seventy one or three,

951
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 6: and I have little comments on all of them.

952
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Speaker 2: So go check that out. It's fun.

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Speaker 6: If you're a Texans fan, this is enjoyable. I mean

954
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Speaker 6: the threes alone, because you have Chris Brown, you have

955
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Speaker 6: sad of Weedon who wore three for a bit. I mean,

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Speaker 6: it's fun stuff to digest. Anyway, Johnny, thanks so much.

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Speaker 6: We'll do it again tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Have a great night. Thank you Joe for producing Go Texans.