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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Norri with you.

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Speaker 2: Dougal Fraser back with us. Internationally renowned psychic author cosmic coach.

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Speaker 2: He utilizes color therapy, clairvoyance, intuition, empathy, interior design, and

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Speaker 2: practical advice to help people assess and attain their goals

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Speaker 2: and dreams. He's a regular featured blogger for the healf

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Speaker 2: of Huffington Post. An author of several books. He and

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Speaker 2: Radley Valentine got together to put together Angels and Aura's

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Speaker 2: Oracle cards. We'll tell you about that in a moment. Dougal,

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Speaker 2: welcome back.

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Speaker 3: Hey George, thanks for having me. So good to hear your.

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Speaker 2: Voice you too, have you been?

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Speaker 3: I've been really good. It's been an exciting couple of years.

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Speaker 3: How have you been?

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Speaker 2: All is good here and the world has turned upside

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Speaker 2: down and hopefully one day we'll be able to get

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Speaker 2: through it all.

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Speaker 3: Huh it had, indeed, it has. Indeed, it's certainly been

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Speaker 3: a splash of cold water in the face for lots

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Speaker 3: of us.

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Speaker 2: See Auras, don't.

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Speaker 4: You I do? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: When I hear the sound of someone's voice, I immediately

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Speaker 3: start to see color and energy. Now my perspective of

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Speaker 3: that is that I'm seeing the aura and the soul body.

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Speaker 3: The scientific community would say that I have something called

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Speaker 3: synesthesia where two senses in the brain overlap. But when

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Speaker 3: I hear sound, I see color.

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Speaker 2: Do different colors represent something different for that person?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely well, I mean it's interesting.

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Speaker 4: We all have sort of.

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Speaker 3: A personal relationship with color. One of the reasons I

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Speaker 3: love it as a body of.

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Speaker 4: Work, especially in the spiritual community, is that it's tangible.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter what country you go to, what age

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Speaker 3: you are. If I ask someone what their favorite color

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Speaker 3: is to have an answer for it. So people certainly

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Speaker 3: have their own personal perceptions and meanings of colors. But

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Speaker 3: as someone that's done nearly ten thousand readings, if not more,

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Speaker 3: I started to sort of gather information and saw personality

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Speaker 3: traits that would repeat themselves, and then even some scientific

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Speaker 3: studies that are pretty fascinating where my definitions of color

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Speaker 3: energy matched some research that has been done. So I

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Speaker 3: think for a really long time, color has been an

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Speaker 3: influence from marketing, the spirituality and religion. It's a powerful tool.

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Speaker 3: It's a really really incredible body of work.

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Speaker 2: Doogel, do you ever see more than one color for

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Speaker 2: an individual at the same time?

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Speaker 4: Love that question, George.

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Speaker 3: So if you think of things like numerology, right, if

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Speaker 3: you do your numerology, everybody gets their life past number.

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Speaker 3: Or with astrology, everybody knows their sun sign. That is

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Speaker 3: a fixed system of work. With auras, your energy is

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Speaker 3: constantly changing based on the topic, based on the environment.

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Speaker 3: A new question comes up, a new color will come up.

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Speaker 3: So a lot of people when they get a reading

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Speaker 3: for me, they really want to be one color, and

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Speaker 3: they are not. We are multifaceted beings. We have one

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Speaker 3: personality type with our family. We have one personality type

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Speaker 3: in our business. So it will constantly evolve and change.

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Speaker 3: What I will say is occasionally a color will lead, like,

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Speaker 3: for example, when I hear the sound of your voice, George,

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Speaker 3: I see blue. Blue is the color of truth and wisdom.

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Speaker 3: It's information. I always see stacks and stacks of books

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Speaker 3: when I see blue. Because this person, forgive me for saying,

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Speaker 3: there is a little bit of an information junkie. You

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Speaker 3: love information, You're going to research it, You're going to

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Speaker 3: read five books about it. So I might see a

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Speaker 3: personality color that sort of leads in a reading or

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Speaker 3: what I'm connecting to someone. But there are various colors

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Speaker 3: around us in any given moment.

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Speaker 2: Is there a color difference between somebody who is good

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Speaker 2: as opposed to somebody who is a bad person?

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Speaker 3: Uh, that's kind of interesting. From the sole perspective. From

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Speaker 3: an energy perspective, there is no good and or bad.

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Speaker 4: It's vibration. It's energy.

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Speaker 3: Colors do have what I call a shadow side, and

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Speaker 3: everybody has an experience where they get a shadow moment

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Speaker 4: You might be insecure, you might.

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Speaker 3: Feel like your ego is leading. So if a color

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Speaker 4: To me.

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Speaker 3: It's a little bit thicker. I can't see through it.

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Speaker 3: Shout outside isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's not negative,

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Speaker 3: but it does mean that we're getting some work done.

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Speaker 4: You know. Think of it like your vitamins. Think of

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Speaker 4: it as of like eating your greens.

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Speaker 3: It's the nutrients. But I can't necessarily describe it as negative.

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Speaker 3: It's more like you're working through something in that moment.

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Speaker 2: Interesting take, now, does everybody have an aura?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: Every living thing has an aura. Although here's the weird thing.

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Speaker 3: I could wrap my head around the fact that I

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Speaker 3: can see color and energy around living things. I see

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Speaker 3: it around animals, I see it around people, I see

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Speaker 3: it around plants. But sometimes I will see it around

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Speaker 3: an inanimate object. And what I've learned to figure out

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Speaker 3: is that's where psychometry comes in. Psychometry is, let's say

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Speaker 3: you've got your grandmother's ring, right, and she wore it

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Speaker 3: for years, and then you've worn it for a long time.

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Speaker 3: That object can actually pick up energy, and intuitive can

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Speaker 3: hold it and pick up the vibration. It's not not

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Speaker 3: really the life force of the object. But we leave

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Speaker 3: imprints in a room. So you can walk into a

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Speaker 3: room where people were giggling and you might see energy

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Speaker 3: heavy and thick. So every living thing has energy. But

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Speaker 3: then more importantly, we leave imprints in the world, which

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Speaker 3: I think is interesting. It sort of helps us be

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Speaker 3: accountable to how we treat people, how we behave, and

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Speaker 3: how we move through life.

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Speaker 2: John zapfis the paranormal expert that Google has been an

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Speaker 2: expert in objects that have been possessed or are haunted

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Speaker 2: or are just generally nice, like the grandmother's ring or

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Speaker 2: something like that. But he he contends spirits attach themselves

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Speaker 2: to objects, just like you mentioned.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And so my thing is, like I never used

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Speaker 3: the word possession just because I'm like a little bit

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Speaker 3: of a word nerd, and like battery, comes at it

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Speaker 3: from like sort of like an intense perspective. So I

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Speaker 3: would say there's imprints of energy, there's memories there, in

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Speaker 3: the same way that if you pick up a photo

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Speaker 3: and it reminds you of someone that you love so dearly,

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Speaker 3: you're moved by emotions, or in the same way if

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Speaker 3: you picked up a photo with someone that you've had

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Speaker 3: challenges with, you may be haunted by them. But my

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Speaker 3: job always as an intuitive is to try to play

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Speaker 3: with language and see how we can come at it

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Speaker 3: with energy or as are fun. Everybody perceives energy. They

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Speaker 3: may not think they're doing it, but we say things

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Speaker 3: like we have chemistry with each other, we had a

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Speaker 3: great vibe, we connect. That's you connecting with energy. I'm

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Speaker 2: Can you train people to see ours?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, every single person on the planet can see energy.

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Speaker 3: It's a money back guarantee. If you're in a workshop,

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Speaker 3: I can get anybody to see energy.

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Speaker 4: What's interesting is.

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Speaker 3: That the physical eye is what we normally use for

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Speaker 3: depth perception and facial recognition and the way we connect

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Speaker 3: with people. It's through simple tools of meditation. You can

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Speaker 3: use the oracle deck, which we'll be talking about, but

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Speaker 3: simple tools of distracting your mind so that you can

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Speaker 2: And you mentioned the oracle deck Angels and Aura's oracle cards.

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Speaker 2: It's a forty four card deck and a guidebook that

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Speaker 2: is included with that, which I found very very helpful.

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Speaker 2: But how did you and Radley come.

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Speaker 1: Up with this?

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Speaker 3: So? Radley is an incredible friend of mine. He is

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Speaker 3: an amazing teacher. Radley is all about angels and their

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Speaker 3: meanings and the history of them and how we can

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Speaker 4: Radley and I.

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Speaker 3: Would do tandem readings with callers where I would pick

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Speaker 3: up a particular color. Let's say I would say, oh,

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Speaker 3: I see pinker on this person, and I'd start talking

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Speaker 3: meanings of pink which is about self love and sometimes

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Speaker 3: being critical. And Radley would say, that's so interesting. I've

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Speaker 3: got our angel Joe Fiel here, who presents in a

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Speaker 3: pink energy. I didn't know angels present in colors, and

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Speaker 3: they do, and the meanings of the angels were very

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Speaker 3: similar to my definitions of aura colors. So we did

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Speaker 3: an online class, we did workshops, and you know, four

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Speaker 3: years later it became a deck. And it's the blending

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Speaker 3: of work that I think is so beautiful in every

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Speaker 3: body of spirituality. It's not just using one belief system,

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Speaker 3: it's really pulling from different bodies of work and making

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Speaker 3: it your own. So we like to think of angels

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Speaker 2: Now that they're not Tarot cards though.

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Speaker 3: Right, no, no, no no. So tarot cards are a

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Speaker 3: oracle deck is when a collaborator or an author like

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Speaker 3: Radley and myself come together and we create new images

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Speaker 3: and new meanings. We have some nods to traditional tarot cards.

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Speaker 3: So in Taro there's the major artana and our deck

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Speaker 3: nod to the major artana. The rest are message. But

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Speaker 3: we wanted to teach people how to use colors, how

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Speaker 3: to connect with angels. And then there's lots of tips

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Speaker 3: in your practical life. So if you pick orange, you

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Speaker 3: can then use orange in your clothing or lighting a candle,

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Speaker 2: Tangible, fascinating. Now do you pick up araras just by

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So, I actually have to hear the sound of

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Speaker 3: your voice. I can't do it through a letter or email.

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Speaker 3: I actually hear the sound of someone's voice, so literally, George,

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Speaker 3: when I hear you speak, I see shades and shades

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Speaker 4: It sometimes leans a.

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Speaker 3: Little bit towards purple when you trail off at the

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Speaker 3: end of your voice. But yeah, I have to hear

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Speaker 3: someone's voice so often. When we take calls tonight, which

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Speaker 3: caller to say their name three times for me. Doesn't

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Speaker 3: have to be your actual names. You could say Scooby

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Speaker 3: Doo if you want. But I'm just listening to the

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Speaker 3: sound of your voice, and that's how I see energy.

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Speaker 2: And you'll be able to tell them about their aura

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Speaker 2: and what it means. Absolutely job, that's fantastic. How Let's

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Speaker 2: say somebody standing up and you see their aura. How

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Speaker 3: It depends on the person. So I talk about what's

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Speaker 3: fun dinner party, guest, George?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I've bet people invite you all over the place,

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Speaker 2: oracle book and people will go crazy. Exactly can people

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Speaker 3: So again, energy the aura is not a fixed system.

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Speaker 3: So one of the things that I've learned through color

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Speaker 4: Part of what I teach.

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Speaker 3: And this is scientifically proven with certain colors as well.

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Speaker 2: That is truly remarkable. If you don't see an aura

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a real problem. Don't be an aura. We haven't,

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Speaker 4: This is always interesting to me, George.

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Speaker 2: Interesting. Interesting when somebody says my favorite color is red

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Speaker 4: So let's take blue.

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Speaker 2: When we saw biblical pictures depicting Jesus, yeah, well we

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Speaker 4: That's crack.

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Speaker 3: Our first documentation of aura and energy, and most major

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Speaker 3: religions have some version of that. That's exactly right, And

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Speaker 3: at psychic fairs or health expos But yes, absolutely, you

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Speaker 2: How is he able to Jesus being illuminate his aura

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Speaker 3: So everybody can illuminate their aura. It's not just reserved

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Speaker 3: There's a very basic belief system that energy follows thought

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Speaker 4: Of my being.

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Speaker 3: So every single person does this.

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Speaker 4: We do it on a.

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Speaker 3: First date, we do it in a job interview. When

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Speaker 2: How can somebody who who is let's say they're evil,

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Speaker 3: I don't again, I would never use the word evil.

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Speaker 3: If I've ever felt someone that was heavy or negative,

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Speaker 3: It presents in that way. It doesn't present from a

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Speaker 2: It is fascinating. Angels in auras oracle. Where do you

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Speaker 2: get these?

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Speaker 3: So you can get these on Amazon that just came

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Speaker 3: out on October thirty first. They're really really beautiful for

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Speaker 3: people that are interested in seeing energy, You can let

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Speaker 3: colors will come up. You can learn about color and energy.

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Speaker 3: They'll be in metaphysical books to or major retailers, but

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Speaker 3: Amazon is probably a great place to go.

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Speaker 4: Right now.

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Speaker 3: You can actually go to aaoracle dot com. We have

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Speaker 3: some freebies for people that register and buy through that website.

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Speaker 2: We're talking with Dougal Fraser. In a moment, Radley Valentine

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Speaker 2: expert on the angelic realm, isn't he?

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Speaker 3: He is an incredible person. And not only that, he's

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Speaker 2: Fantastic Dugal, How did you get involved in all this?

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Speaker 4: You know, it's funny.

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Speaker 3: When I was standing in the crib, my parents used

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Speaker 3: My mother was fascinated by it and took me to

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, absolutely, but I was very lucky.

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Speaker 3: My parents encouraged me to talk about it. About my

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Speaker 2: Would you always tell your friends you saw colors around them?

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Speaker 2: What color is around you?

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Speaker 3: So most people see red and orange around me. I

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