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Speaker 2: But it's great to be back with you. Because, folks,

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Speaker 2: this means it is on. In less than two weeks,

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Speaker 2: the Browns will report for training camp, and in less

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Speaker 2: to the Greenbrier of July the twenty second to officially

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Speaker 2: kick off Brown's training camp for the twenty twenty three season. So, folks,

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Speaker 2: followed simply we're back. So gibbe, let me just start

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Speaker 2: with you. How was your week? What did you do?

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Speaker 2: How are you feeling? You're feeling recharged?

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Speaker 3: Are you ready?

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Speaker 2: Because for you and I it's go time now. We're

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Speaker 2: running wild, hopefully deep into February.

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Speaker 3: Ahware we go, buddy. I wish I could say the

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Speaker 3: same about the studio. We are, Uh, we're working through

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Speaker 3: some things. There will not be a stream today. I'm

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Speaker 3: hoping that there's a live stream tomorrow, but I'm not optimistic.

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Speaker 3: The construction at the Cross Country Mortgage Campus continues, and

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Speaker 3: I am I might be sitting in sawdust right now,

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Speaker 3: So well.

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Speaker 2: That's not good for it, that's not good for you.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not great. But we're making do and making

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Speaker 3: the most of things here and I can't I told

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Speaker 3: you earlier last night. I'm sitting there and I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I cannot believe ten days went by. Ten days in

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Speaker 3: the blink of an eye, buddy.

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Speaker 3: It is crazy that it's here. I feel like I've

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Speaker 3: got a million things to do over the over the

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Speaker 3: next ten days. Yep, before we depart for the Greenbrier.

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Speaker 3: It is it is here, ready or not? And away

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Speaker 3: we go for the twenty twenty three season. No, you're right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's really what it is. I'm already

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Speaker 3: a year older.

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Speaker 2: I feel older since the last time we talked, and

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Speaker 2: then in fact, I am. It was a great week birthday.

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Speaker 2: Birthday was great. Got to go to the pool, the

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Speaker 2: weather was actually good that day on Tuesday. Uh. And

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Speaker 2: then made a bunch of ribs and some smoked for

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Speaker 2: it was great. We felt very happy to celebrate with everybody,

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Speaker 2: you know, friends and family, and so it was that

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Speaker 2: part of it. It was absolutely wonderful. Nothing wrong with

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Speaker 3: I decided I would play thirty six on the Home

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Speaker 3: of the Yeah, it was hot. It was hot. So

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Speaker 3: is there a birthday gift this year?

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Speaker 2: Is there?

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Speaker 3: Was there a Was there a best moment or best gift?

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Speaker 2: Uh? So we had watched this thing on it's on

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Speaker 2: It's on what's it now? The Disney It's on the

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Speaker 2: Disney app. So we were watching on the Disney app

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Speaker 2: and there's a series with Chris Hemsworth about doing like

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Speaker 2: crazy things, and one of it was taking on these

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Speaker 2: cold plunges. So Kayla got me We're gonna do like

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Speaker 2: curious about it, so that'll be good. My mom always

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Speaker 2: comes through with very nice gifts. And then the kids

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Speaker 2: wrote like for me all At this point, I just

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Speaker 2: They wrote me the nicest card. So that was like,

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Speaker 3: I got youa like that's I'm like, I'm a grown adult.

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Speaker 3: So I totally, I totally understand that. How was the

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Speaker 2: God? Yeah, Monday, though we got rained out. Wednesday I

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Speaker 2: think it's the coolest place. I really do. I think

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Speaker 3: What was the Saturday night festivities?

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Speaker 2: Saturday night we went out to Joe's Stone Crab and

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Speaker 2: It was just cool. It was. It was a cool experience,

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Speaker 2: Like I think it's just impossible. I was delayed going

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Speaker 2: on time. All day the plane I was you know,

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Speaker 3: At least you've got at.

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Speaker 2: Least I got back. I know, I was. I was

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Speaker 2: pretty sure at some point that we were gonna get

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Speaker 2: at Olympia. My buddy has become good friends with Brett Conway,

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Speaker 2: from Penn State. I was the third round pick in

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Speaker 2: seven two thousand and three. But yes, last year he

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Speaker 3: That it'd be a nice little trip down memory lane,

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Speaker 3: especially the two thousands. Yeah, two thousand Browns.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was cool. Got to it was two

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Speaker 3: Weather across the middle part of the country. There's weather

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Speaker 2: Well, and they're coming through Denver, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there could be some there could be some issues.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Denver's not the worst city to get stuck in, however,

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Speaker 3: So I don't know. It's a late day flight, so

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Speaker 3: he was a little concerned about that. I'm like, I

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Speaker 3: don't want to tell you that you shouldn't be, but

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Speaker 2: Yep. Hopefully we wish him a speedy, say, easy travel.

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Speaker 3: Yes, let's hope indeed that's the case. What else?

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Speaker 2: What else did you do? That was pretty much it? Man,

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Speaker 2: did some some hanging out, had a great the night

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Speaker 2: before my birthday, went out with target friend Steven Molly,

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Speaker 2: just had like it was just a great week. It

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Speaker 2: You know that's gonna it was a great birthday week,

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Speaker 2: a great week off. I wish you know, some of

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Speaker 2: the weather was a little iffy dicey, like July third,

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Speaker 2: getting rained out of golf, Like, come on, it can't

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Speaker 2: be it. We can't be having a rain here in

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Speaker 2: July third.

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Speaker 3: See, that's funny because I played Little Mountain no problems.

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Speaker 3: Yeah we could see it to the south, but.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that must have been It's interesting. My club is

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Speaker 2: like a different weather system than even my house, even

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Speaker 2: within ten minutes, there was no evidence of rain and nothing.

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Speaker 2: But it just kind of that's how the front moves through.

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Speaker 2: I guess.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got to play. I played that Friday in

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Speaker 2: We'll be ready. We the humans will be ready. We

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Speaker 3: That doesn't suck, no.

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Speaker 2: So I mean we're a team that is absolutely capable

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Speaker 2: to the Chief twenty seven years old. Twenty seven years

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Speaker 2: handsomely by the Cleveland Browns, but he's also become I

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Speaker 2: think an excellent leader of this football team. Somebody who

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Speaker 2: had a chance for his career to kind of go

435
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 2: one or two ways, put the work in, got it done.

436
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Speaker 2: Coming off the season with fifty eight catches, six hundred

437
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Speaker 2: and twenty eight yards and four touchdowns. Missed a couple

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Speaker 2: of games dude injury, but at the first half the

439
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 2: season he was really on his way. I thought to

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00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 2: having a monster season, and I think he will this year.

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Speaker 2: The six hundred and twenty eight yards eleven shy of

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Speaker 2: his career high. The fifty eight catches were a career high.

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Speaker 2: The four touchdowns tied a career high. It's the fourth

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Speaker 2: time in his six seasons he's had four touchdowns, So

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Speaker 2: I think that he's going to improve on those numbers

446
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Speaker 2: even more this year. But nice to have the Chief

447
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Speaker 2: here twenty seven, still very very young, very young and

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Speaker 2: ascending player for the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and you said it. I think the biggest thing

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Speaker 3: last year obviously his production went up, but the leadership

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Speaker 3: that he's kind of you know, he's taken the bull

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Speaker 3: by the horns and really and truly become one of

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Speaker 3: the more vocal leaders on this football team.

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Speaker 2: And oh yeah, and.

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Speaker 3: Has backed up his play and that is I think

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Speaker 3: that's the biggest thing. And that was the biggest surprise.

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Speaker 3: Maybe not a surprise, but the biggest I would say

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Speaker 3: a surprise from a year ago because Chiefs quietly gone

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Speaker 3: about and done his work.

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Speaker 2: Yep, yees yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean last year became a much more vocal leader,

462
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Speaker 3: was able to back it up, and I think that

463
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Speaker 3: really the sky's the limit for him here this year.

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Speaker 2: I agree. I think Chief's on his way to having

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Speaker 2: a big, big season this year. We're going to throw

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Speaker 2: the ball a lot more. We've got weapons on the outside.

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Speaker 2: The ball might go around more places, but he is

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Speaker 2: our big red zone threat. He's a guy that's I think,

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Speaker 2: because of the other weapons, going to get more space

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Speaker 2: to operate in the middle of the field. And I

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Speaker 2: think he's in line obviously for a big, big season,

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Speaker 2: and I think that will be a great thing. Like

473
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Speaker 2: tight ends can to be a quarterback's best friend, and

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Speaker 2: I think we've got a quarterback who's proven he can

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Speaker 2: certainly get the ball to anybody anywhere on the field,

476
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Speaker 2: and he and Chief together last year were productive. I mean,

477
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Speaker 2: you think about David Njokho caught the first touchdown from

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Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson last season, and it seemed like they had

479
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Speaker 2: definitely down near the goal line. Anyway, they had a

480
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Speaker 2: nice rapport last year and as Deshaun Watson got better, obviously,

481
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Speaker 2: Chief and his ability to find the en Zoni scored

482
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Speaker 2: in that game against Cincinnati. That was his first touchdown

483
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Speaker 2: he played in five games with Deshaun Watson seven for

484
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Speaker 2: fifty nine touchdown that when he scored four for forty

485
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Speaker 2: two in a touchdown in the final game against Pittsburgh

486
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Speaker 2: as well, So you could see that those two can

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Speaker 2: have some chemistry. The two touchdowns in five games and

488
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 2: Chief scored in three of his last six, and of

489
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 2: course the one before that was the incredible one handed

490
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Speaker 2: catch to force overtime against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. So

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Speaker 2: you want to see the Chief get going. Prior to

492
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Speaker 2: his injury last year, nine for eighty nine a touchdown

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Speaker 2: against Pittsburgh, Week three, five for seventy three, six for

494
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Speaker 2: eighty eight, three for fifty eight, seven for seventy one.

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Speaker 2: He never got back above sixty yards even though he

496
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 2: was running those off basically every single week prior to

497
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Speaker 2: the injury. So hopefully back healthy, ready to go, we

498
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Speaker 2: can keep them that way. And I think the Chief

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Speaker 2: has a big, big season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think I think there are a couple

501
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Speaker 3: guys I think Chief, Greg Newsom, Denzel some guys that

502
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 3: got dinged up in training camp the last couple of years,

503
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Speaker 3: you know, and I know Chief Chief's injury came in season,

504
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 3: but you know, if you can get through training camp

505
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Speaker 3: and not get guys behind in terms of getting ready

506
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Speaker 3: and getting their bodies ready for the season. Injuries happened,

507
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Speaker 3: there are moments that are going to happen, but you know,

508
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Speaker 3: if those guys can make it through, and you know,

509
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Speaker 3: I think Greg would tell you. I mean he and Denzel.

510
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Speaker 3: Remember both of those guys last year missed a couple

511
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Speaker 3: of weeks. I don't think they were I don't think

512
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Speaker 3: either one was at the joint practices with the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: No, the guy, Yeah, you're right, gotta gotta be healthy.

514
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Speaker 2: I think he was at the very beginning.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't I'm trying to remember. But then like they

516
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Speaker 3: were out for a couple of weeks. Yeah, and that's

517
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Speaker 3: and that's tough, like even for a veteran. You know,

518
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Speaker 3: we talk about rookies. If rookies get hurt, sometimes it

519
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 3: takes an entire year to catch up. You know, It's

520
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 3: not that way with a veteran, but for a vet

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Speaker 3: to get themselves in a position to be ready to

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Speaker 3: go week one, you know, if you're behind and you're

523
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Speaker 3: not on the field. It definitely hurts, and I think

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Speaker 3: any of those guys would tell you that. So you know,

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Speaker 3: I just knock on wood. We get through the early

526
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Speaker 3: part of camp here and make it through a couple

527
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Speaker 3: of preseason games and really get these guys into good rhythms.

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Speaker 3: So when the regular season comes and boy and the

529
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Speaker 3: bomb start flying, we're going to be ready to go.

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Speaker 2: That's the goal. That's that's the old goal. Get everybody

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Speaker 2: ready and healthy and ready to go when we open

532
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Speaker 2: up this season at home against the Bengals. Right when

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Speaker 2: we come back, we're gonna take a look at one

534
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 2: underappreciated player on every AFC team for the twenty twenty

535
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Speaker 2: three NFL season, looking at guys who just absolutely can

536
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Speaker 2: get the job done, maybe don't get as many headlines

537
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Speaker 2: as they should. Now, I think there are some. I

538
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Speaker 2: think there's certainly some players on this list that are

539
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Speaker 2: very appreciated and well known. Maybe some of them are not.

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Speaker 2: But we'll go through this list and I'll see if

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Speaker 2: you think that these people that are appropriately known or

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Speaker 2: thought of were not. So we'll do that when we

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Speaker 2: come back here. You listen to Clear Browns Daily brought

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by bally Bet coming

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Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome back into Cleveland Brown's Daily. Nathan Skirr

548
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 2: alongside Jason Gibbs as always here getting you ready for

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Speaker 2: the start of Brown's training camp less than two weeks away.

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Speaker 2: Which is a stunning thing that we have gotten to

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Speaker 2: this point less than two weeks away. And so one

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Speaker 2: of the things we're gonna do now is look at

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Speaker 2: one of the most underrated players on each roster, appreciated, appreciated. Well,

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing that's like media underappreciates kind of the same.

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00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 2: I'm thinking it's the same thing. Maybe not, it.

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Speaker 3: Says, and this is from our good friend Cody Benjamin

557
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Speaker 3: at CBS Sports. The NFL is loaded with star power.

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Speaker 3: Some of the biggest names belong to the AFC, but

559
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 3: not every important player is nationally recognized or at least

560
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 3: as much as they should be. That's why we're highlighting

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Speaker 3: some of the conferences most undappreciated talent going into the

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Speaker 3: new year. So yeah, this is definitely media drip aka

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Speaker 3: CBS clickbait.

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Speaker 2: Which is fine, should get right, it's guys that should

565
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Speaker 2: get a little bit of attention, and I think that

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Speaker 2: in many cases that is certainly a very worthwhile endeavor here.

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Speaker 2: So all right, he starts.

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Speaker 3: With, you want to do like, do you want to

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Speaker 3: do like thing or not.

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Speaker 2: A thing if they're underappreciated or not? Yeah, all right, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm fine with that. You want to know it's all right?

572
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 2: So then you want to throw it at me. I

573
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Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 3: I can do that.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's do that then? Perfect.

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Speaker 3: Uh So the Buffalo Bills Matt Mulano outside linebacker underappreciated,

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Speaker 3: uh player, thing or not thing?

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Speaker 2: So do you think, like when do you hear Matt Milano,

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Speaker 2: what do you think? Like, do you think this is

580
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Speaker 2: this guy? Do you think Matt Milano is a stud

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Speaker 2: is he's one of the people that you know, when

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Speaker 2: you talk about the Buffalo Bills defense, Matt Milano is

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Speaker 2: one of the first people you're going to talk about.

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Speaker 2: Or do you think that he is flying under the

585
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Speaker 2: radar at all? Yeah? I don't think so either. I

586
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: think Matt Malona is one of the best off ball

587
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: linebackers in the league. He's been a pro bowler, he's

588
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: been an All Pro. He was a first team He

589
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: was a Pro Bowler and a first team All Pro

590
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: last season. So when I don't understand how you could

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Speaker 2: make the case that somebody who has those accolades, he

592
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: had three picks, a touchdown, two fumble recoveries, one and

593
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 2: a half sacks, ninety nine tackles, twelve tackles for loss,

594
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: was first team All Pro. How could somebody who was

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Speaker 2: first team All Pro, an award voted on by the media,

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Speaker 2: how could that person possibly be considered under under rated

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Speaker 2: or under the radar.

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Speaker 3: I get that there's some bigger names on the defense,

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00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 3: but people know who he is. Yeah, I know who

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Speaker 3: Matt Milano is. Yes, all right, Up next for the

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Speaker 3: rat Birds it is center Tyler Linderbaum thing or not

602
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Speaker 3: a thing.

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Speaker 2: So see to me, this is a good one because

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Speaker 2: in most cases I would argue that offensive linemen fly

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Speaker 2: under the radar. That's just kind of the nature of

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Speaker 2: the beast, especially an interior offensive lineman. Ben Linderbaum is

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Speaker 2: excellent when you think about as a rookie, he was

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Speaker 2: a starter. I thought he did very well last year.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a good one. That's an ascending player

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Speaker 2: that is not a household name in many ways because

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00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: of the position he plays, but is somebody who I

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Speaker 2: think will be very, very good.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately he's very good. Yeah he is because we have

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Speaker 3: to face him twice a year, and I thought they

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00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 3: hit it right on the head. People talk about Garrett

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Speaker 3: Wilson and brock Party and when it comes to the

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty two rookie stars, but Linderbaum's right up there.

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Speaker 3: He replaced a seventeen game starter in Bradley Boseman. Got

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Speaker 3: some work to do, but he's a good player. Again,

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Speaker 3: fingering out a thing Trey Hendrickson considered underappreciated.

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Speaker 2: I mean, does Trey Hendrickson get talked about in you know,

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Speaker 2: the Miles Garrett, nick Bosa, TJ. Watt discussions. No, he

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Speaker 2: does not. But Trey Hendrickson is a very very good player.

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Speaker 2: He's probably the first person that you would talk about

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Speaker 2: when you talk about the Bengals defense. He had fourteen

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Speaker 2: sacks in twenty twenty one, down to only eight last year.

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Speaker 2: But remember he was a little bit banged up at times. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he was banged up at the end, but still a

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Speaker 2: very productive guy. He's got at least twenty four quarterback

630
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Speaker 2: hits in three straight seasons. Over the last three years,

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Speaker 2: he's got thirty five and a half sacks. He's been

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Speaker 2: a Pro Bowler each of the last two seasons. So

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Speaker 2: I mean, like, what more respect? What more does he want?

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Speaker 3: No, he's one of the three best players on the

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Speaker 3: Bengals defense. He's not underrated.

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Speaker 2: No, Oh yeah, he's not under Who's underappreciating him? Like

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00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 2: if you're I would say if he never made a

638
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl because people weren't didn't know who he was,

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00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 2: then he would be underappreciated. But he feels pretty properly appreciated.

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Speaker 2: Matt Lona was a first team All Pro. It feels

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Speaker 2: like he was pretty appreciated.

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Speaker 3: Next up for your Cleveland Football Browns, it's new free

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Speaker 3: safety Rodney McLeod.

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Speaker 2: So this is an interesting one. I think right now,

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Speaker 2: you know, obviously last year career hid tackles, pass breakups.

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Speaker 2: He is I think going to bring incredible leadership and

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Speaker 2: a veteran presence to that room. He understands Jim Schwartz's

648
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 2: defense from their time together in Philadelphia. I think he's

649
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 2: a stud I think that's an interesting one. I like

650
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 2: that one. I would have said maybe Dalvin Tomlinson, maybe

651
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 2: a little unappreciated. I would have said Ethan Posik probably

652
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 2: is a little underappreciated for how good he was, you know,

653
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 2: last year, somewhere somebody in that route. But I think

654
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 2: that Rodney Mcloud's an interesting one. I'm curious how many

655
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 2: snaps he's gonna play per game. Like Delpit, to me,

656
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 2: would have been a good underappreciated one. I think Grant

657
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 2: Delpit's on the cusp of being a star, and right

658
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 2: now people don't really realize the leap that he took

659
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 2: last year.

660
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 3: Well, I'll get you another name to throw in there.

661
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 3: Our good friend Donovan People's Jones DPJ underappreciated there.

662
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 2: I like that good call. Give me that's a good call.

663
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. But I do like what Rodney McLeod brings is

664
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 3: the leadership from the Rams and from the Eagles when

665
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 3: he won a Super Bowl. Like, the guy is a

666
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 3: leader and that will help this defense on the Denver

667
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 3: Broncos defensive tackle DJ.

668
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 2: Jones, I don't know enough about him, so maybe he

669
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 2: is underappreciated. I don't know that he's let's see if

670
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 2: he's ever put up any kind of I don't think

671
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 2: he's ever done anything monstrous.

672
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 3: He's been an above average interior lineman for at least

673
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 3: four years now. Removed from the Nick Bosa companionship in

674
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, he still starred as a top flight

675
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 3: run stuffer in Denver. Twenty tackles for lost ten QB

676
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 3: hits the last three seasons.

677
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, two sacks basically a season. Former sixth round pick,

678
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 2: solid player, played five years with the Niners, one year

679
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 2: with Denver.

680
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 3: I guess there are some guys here on this list that.

681
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 2: Not quite sure of all right, Well, he's saying he's

682
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 2: a quality player who's certainly not getting accolades. So maybe

683
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: in this case he is underappreciated. I don't know what

684
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 2: is how high a ceiling is, but maybe you could

685
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 2: say that he's a little underappreciated.

686
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,919
Speaker 3: All right, Well, I mean, what do we know about

687
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 3: the You know, so much is made of the Denver offense.

688
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 3: You know, what's the Denver defense going to look like

689
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:53,959
Speaker 3: here in twenty twenty three?

690
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: Well it should be good. I mean, they've got Patrick's

691
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 2: certain second, who's a very good player. I'm trying to

692
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: pull up the Broncos. Let's see where are they? So

693
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: the Broncos Justin Simmons. They got Justin Simmons, the excellent

694
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 2: free safety Randy Gregory DJ Jones. So they gave DJ

695
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 2: Jones ten ten plus million a year, So he's not

696
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 2: underappreciated from a financial standpoint.

697
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 3: I'll tell you that that's for sure. Defensive tackles good

698
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 3: year to be one in the off season.

699
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt in all right, ten million guaranteed this

700
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 2: year for him.

701
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 3: On to the Houston Texans and linebacker Christian Harris. This

702
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 3: guy was a round product out of Alabama.

703
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: This guy was impressive when we played them. He started

704
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 2: basically the second or the last sixty to sixty seven

705
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,240
Speaker 2: percent I guess of the season and played well. DeMeco

706
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 2: Ryans loves his ability, three down player, coverage, chess piece,

707
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 2: good athlete. I think I like that. I like Christian Harris.

708
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 2: I would have gone with their safety. What's this Jalen Petrie.

709
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 2: I thought that guy was very impressive when we will

710
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: certain very impressive.

711
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've got some Dumiko Ryans. The cupboard's not bear

712
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 3: on the defensive side of the football. Yep, they've agreed.

713
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 3: Got some decent players from the Indianapolis Colts. It's wide

714
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 3: receiver Michael Pittman.

715
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 2: Michael Pittman's very good. I think fantasy players know him

716
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 2: obviously because he's a receiver. Last year, last two seasons,

717
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: two thousand yards and ten touchdowns. Hasn't had the best

718
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 2: quarterbacks of Matt Ryan, you know, or what was left

719
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 2: of Matt Ryan at that point, and Carson Wentz. I

720
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 2: don't know that Anthony Richardson is gonna be the type

721
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: of quarterback that's gonna unlock him. I think he's gonna

722
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: be a dangerous weapon as a quarterback, but I don't

723
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: know that he's gonna, you know, take Michael Pittman to

724
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 2: New Heights. Michael Pittman was a guy who would have

725
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 2: been a great big slot for Drew Brees and New Orleans,

726
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 2: like if he followed after Marquez Colston, he would have

727
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: been perfect in that role. Very good player, talented player.

728
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 3: Up next in Jacksonville, it's wide receiver Za Jones. Underrated

729
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 3: or not thing or not a thing.

730
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,919
Speaker 2: I think it's legit. I mean, how many people would

731
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 2: you have known he had eight hundred yards last year?

732
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 3: No?

733
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: No, and he had eight hundred yards yeah, And I'm

734
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 2: pretty sure he had something the year before that. He

735
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: was in with the Raiders, and I think he was

736
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 2: because and he was close to eight hundred yards and

737
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 2: was catching some bombs down there. So he went eight

738
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 2: twenty three last year with the Raiders. The year before

739
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 2: he went forty seven for five forty six, So this

740
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: was obviously career highs for him. Five touchdowns for the

741
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 2: second ice of his career. Solid player. I think when

742
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 2: you think about now that he's gonna be their third

743
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 2: receiver with Calvin Ridley and Christian Kirk excellent third receiver.

744
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 2: I think could even make the case that Christian Kirk

745
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 2: last year was a little underrated because not every people

746
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 2: weren't necessarily talking about him as much after he signed

747
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 2: that huge deal. He went out there and like, back

748
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 2: that up pretty well. Eighty four catches, eleven hundred and

749
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 2: eight yards and eight touchdowns.

750
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 3: I would agree. I was going to say, I would

751
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 3: put Christian Kirk down as underappreciated. I mean, and now

752
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 3: you're gonna throw Calvin Ridley into that mix.

753
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it. I like it.

754
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 3: Not bad, not bad at all. The Kansas City Chiefs

755
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 3: representative to underrated or not Joe Thuney, Joe, great player,

756
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 3: Tony Sorry, I said.

757
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 2: Great player, great player, probably right as an interior guy,

758
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 2: but I would go with them. I'd go with Isaiah Pachaco.

759
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 2: I mean, he came in last year one hundred and

760
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 2: seventy carries, eight hundred and thirty yards, five yards carry,

761
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 2: five touchdowns. But what really stood out to me is,

762
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: you know the way that they used him in the

763
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 2: playoffs as well. In the playoff games. In those games

764
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 2: he gave him basically eight over eighty total yards per game,

765
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty two yards almost ninety total yards

766
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 2: a game. He ran it for five point three yards

767
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: per carry, so it was incredibly effective there caught it

768
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 2: for eleven yards, and I think it was a seventh

769
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 2: round pick. Like I think he was. I think he

770
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: was pretty darn good for them. That's amazing to me

771
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 2: that that's an amazing, amazing find by them. In the

772
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 2: Super Bowl fifteen for seventy six and a touchdown rushing

773
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 2: in the against Jags when they beat the Jags, he

774
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 2: had twelve for ninety five rushing and one catch for

775
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 2: six yards. Against the Bengals, he didn't run it well,

776
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 2: ten for twenty six, but came up with five catches

777
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 2: for fifty nine yards. They don't. They don't win the

778
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 2: Super Bowl without the way that he was playing. Obviously,

779
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 2: he's not the most important piece and the reason they

780
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 2: won the Super Bowl, but he played incredibly well for them.

781
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 3: That they are a prime example. Though you don't need

782
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 3: great offensive linemen when you have Mahomes.

783
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 2: So, but they have built a good offensive line. They

784
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: had Orlando Brown, Tony Creed Humphrey, so they built one

785
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 2: that ended up being better because the members are offensive

786
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 2: line against the Bengals that got dominated and then against

787
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl by the Buccaneers, so they tried

788
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: to get it going.

789
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I agree with you, though. I think

790
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 3: the running back is the one position that continues to

791
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 3: elude the Kansas City Chiefs.

792
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this guy might be the answer. That's

793
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 2: why I'm saying he might be. He might be the guy.

794
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 3: Give him some love exactly. Up next the Las Vegas Raiders.

795
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 3: Max Crosby defensive end.

796
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 2: No way, he's got a nick. Everybody knows who he is.

797
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: Everybody knows who he is. Yes, yeah, that's now.

798
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 3: In his first in his four NFL seasons, combined for

799
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 3: thirty seven and a half sacks, sixty five tackles for

800
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 3: a loss, including an NFL leading twenty two and twenty

801
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 3: twenty two and ninety three QB.

802
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 2: Hits coming off a career.

803
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 3: If you're underappreciated, come come on over to Cleveland.

804
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 2: He's been a second team all to be appreciated. He

805
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 2: was last year in the Defensive Player of the Year ballot,

806
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 2: and he was a Pro Bowler in each of the

807
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:09,439
Speaker 2: last two seasons. Like, not underappreciated at all. Incredible draft pick,

808
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 2: fourth round, incredible draft pick out of East Michigan, Eastern Michigan. Wow,

809
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: who he m? You?

810
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 3: Out of the back? The Los Angeles Chargers tight end

811
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 3: Gerald Everett's four straight years at least four hundred yards,

812
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 3: including a career high five hundred and fifty five yards

813
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 3: in his Chargers debut.

814
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's good. He's a good player. But

815
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: like if he was an elite player, he wouldn't they

816
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 2: wouldn't have let him go. I don't think he's an

817
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 2: elite player. I think he's good. I think the guy

818
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 2: who is ironically underappreciated even though people know him from

819
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 2: fantasy football, I think it's I think Austin Eckler is underappreciated. Clearly,

820
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 2: couldn't even get a contract from the Chiefs. He last year.

821
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 2: He has led the NFL in come total touchdowns each

822
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,479
Speaker 2: of the last two seasons twenty twenty one eighteen. Last year,

823
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 2: caught one hundred and seven balls last year. He's unbelievable,

824
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 2: and he can't even get a contract. He couldn't get

825
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 2: any like he's he's hurt. He's never Who is Eckler?

826
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 2: What do you mean he's hurt? What does that mean?

827
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 2: Guys played thirty three games the last two years. Out

828
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 2: of thirty three guys put up no. Yes, he has.

829
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty one, Gibe, he had fifteen hundred and

830
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 2: fifty eight total yards and twenty touchdowns led the NFL.

831
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 2: Last year had sixteen hundred and thirty seven total yards

832
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 2: and eighteen touchdowns led the NFL. He's never been a.

833
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl problem. He's utter appreciated. That's the issue.

834
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 2: He's unerappreciated exactly. This is the definition of underappreciation. You

835
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 2: don't even believe that his numbers were real. The guy's

836
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 2: an absolute star and he's already been a Pro Bowler.

837
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: You mean to tell me that the guy who's led

838
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 2: the NFL in touchdowns each of the last two seasons.

839
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: Isn't good enough to be a pro bowler?

840
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 3: What is that all about?

841
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 2: One of the best pass catching backs in the league

842
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: the last two years, in all seriousness, he is one

843
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: hundred and seventies the last two years, he has one

844
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy seven catches. He's got thirteen hundred and

845
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 2: sixty nine yards and thirteen touchdowns just receiving.

846
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 3: So where where is the issue here?

847
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 2: He's underappreciated.

848
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 3: I mean, even if you don't even if teams don't

849
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 3: want to pay big money to a running back, his

850
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 3: ability to catch the football.

851
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 2: And as will he's score. He knows how to score

852
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 2: from the goal. He's just a stud, right, He's a stud.

853
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:37,959
Speaker 2: That's wild.

854
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 3: Right. I'll give you this. I'll give you all right.

855
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 3: That guy we didn't play guests the stats. I did

856
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 3: a fine screw in that.

857
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 4: I can't believe he thought Eckler. Eckler's a beast. I

858
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 4: just thought he'd missed some time for the last two years.

859
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 4: He's all right.

860
00:45:55,000 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 3: Uh. The Miami Dolphins defensive end Zech Siler. Yeah, did

861
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 3: he have a big game against US?

862
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 2: I don't know. It feels like he might have. I do.

863
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 3: I feel like I know that.

864
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I'll be honest with you. I

865
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 2: don't really know enough to comment one way or the other.

866
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 2: Zach's I don't know.

867
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 3: Raven's seventh rounder, twenty four tackles for lost, twenty six

868
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 3: QB hits the last three years.

869
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's three years. Though it doesn't sound like I

870
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: don't know. It feels like I feel like he's over

871
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 2: appreciated by this guy.

872
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see that. Yeah, the lights are out again.

873
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 3: Oh man, not in the studio, but everywhere else. I'm

874
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 3: waiting for him to get shut off here. And if

875
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 3: they get shut off, you're going solo, big daddy.

876
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 2: Oh boy, that's hoping two force fun. I mean, it

877
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 2: feels like a solid rotational piece.

878
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel like they've got some bigger names that

879
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 3: don't get as much love.

880
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 2: So agree, let's see hold on two thousand. I'm just

881
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: to pull out that team last year, somebody who I

882
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 2: thought was underappreciated. On their defense. They got some really,

883
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 2: really good players. You could say that, like Jerome Baker,

884
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 2: their linebackers underappreciated. Hunter tackles for sacks, four passes, defense,

885
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: force fumble. I think their safety Jovon Holland, He's probably

886
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 2: properly appreciated. Eric, because Avian Howard is probably the most

887
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 2: appreciated guy they've.

888
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 3: Got, he might be over appreciated.

889
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he maybe turned the corner to that

890
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 2: this year. Still a good player. Cater Kohu is probably

891
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 2: a good one for underappreciated. It was a rookie and

892
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 2: he had ten PBUs and played very very well for them,

893
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 2: all right, I like it.

894
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 3: Patriots corner Marcus Jones.

895
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 2: Marcus Jones is a stud, got the All Pro returner

896
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 2: a touchdown. Underappreciated here, No, he's an All Pro. It's

897
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: hard to be well, gotta I know, we gotta go.

898
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:10,919
Speaker 2: We gotta get out of here in a second. I'll

899
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,959
Speaker 2: just go through the other one real quick. Jordan Whitehead, Yes,

900
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 2: is underappreciated. I like that. That's a good one. Minka Fitzpatrick.

901
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 2: How could he possibly be considered unappreciated.

902
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 3: I I don't understand that.

903
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 2: That doesn't make any sense to me. He also talked

904
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 2: about as one of the best.

905
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 3: Camer and Hayward are also worthy candidates here.

906
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 2: Really, friar Mouth might be underappreciated. I like friar Muth,

907
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 2: Cam Hayward is not underappreciated, all right, So.

908
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 3: What Friar Mooth thirty two yards and two touchdowns. I

909
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 3: don't think he's underappreciated.

910
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, but people don't really like talk about him. That's

911
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 2: a solid that that was probably in terms of total

912
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 2: yards top five at the tight end position last year.

913
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't.

914
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 2: Think he's like thought of, you don't. People don't list

915
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 2: him when they think of the best tight ends in

916
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 2: the league right now, Okay, that is what that's all

917
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 2: I'm saying. He could be under meta. Fitzpatrick is not

918
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 2: underappreciated at all.

919
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 3: No, No Titans. Denico Autry defensive tackle.

920
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 2: Good, long standing veteran. I mean, Jeffrey Simmons is the

921
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 2: star there. But he so he would be, and he

922
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 2: is properly appreciated. I'm fine with it. I'm not gonna

923
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 2: argue with it. With Tamiko, That's fine.

924
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 3: There's just a couple in here that you're like, how

925
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 3: are you the house?

926
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 2: They're not.

927
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 3: Because because they're not Radar. He's like an all pro.

928
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 2: He's an all pro, right, because he's an all pro.

929
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,720
Speaker 2: All right, So to look at some of the underappreciated

930
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 2: players around the league, Remember, for the Browns. It was

931
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 2: safety Rodney McLeod in our division, was Mika Fitzpatrick properly appreciated,

932
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson properly appreciated back back pro bowler, and then

933
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 2: Linderbaum the center, who I think offensive line people properly

934
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 2: appreciate it, but maybe not everybody else. We'll give them

935
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 2: that one, all right, one hour down, one hour to go.

936
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll take a look at the

937
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 2: quarterback position, the quarterback on the Browns roster as they

938
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 2: get ready for the twenty twenty three NFL season. Highlights

939
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 2: some camp battles for you to keep an eye on

940
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 2: and what could happen there. But certainly a room of

941
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 2: great strength, and obviously, as would be the case, I think,

942
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 2: which is about any NFL team, the room that is

943
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 2: going to be most critical to the Browns' success, and

944
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 2: it's also a room where you hopefully one guy plays

945
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 2: all year. So we'll talk about the Browns quarterbacks as

946
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 2: we get ready on the road to training camp when

947
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,800
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955
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 2: ready for the start of training can Push again is

956
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 2: less than two weeks away. So we're gonna give you

957
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 2: a position each week or each day to look at

958
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 2: as we get ready for the Browns return to action. Today.

959
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 2: We're gonna kick it off with the most important position

960
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 2: in all of professional sports. We're gonna kick it off

961
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 2: with the quarterback position. And that obviously starts with the

962
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 2: most important player for the Cleveland Browns in twenty twenty

963
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 2: three and arguably for the next you know, five years,

964
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 2: quarterback DeShawn Watson. And so we saw Watson last year.

965
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 2: In only six games for the Cleveland Browns, Deshaun Watson

966
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 2: did play. Started off slow. The Browns went three and

967
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 2: three in those six games. He completed just fifty eight

968
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 2: percent of his passes, that is ten percent below his

969
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 2: career completion percent. He averaged just six point five yards

970
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 2: per attempt, down from eight point two for his career.

971
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 2: He threw seven touchdowns with five interceptions, well down from

972
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 2: his one hundred and eleven to forty one ratio earlier

973
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 2: for his entire career. His quarterback rating was seventy nine

974
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 2: point one. That would have been the lowest of his career.

975
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 2: His average in Houston was one hundred and four point five,

976
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:27,479
Speaker 2: so obviously the rust was real. All of that was real.

977
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 2: In his last full season twenty twenty, which was his

978
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 2: third straight Pro Bowl appearance, Deshaun Watson completed seventy percent

979
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 2: of his passes for eight hundred and twenty three yards,

980
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 2: thirty three touchdowns seven picks, led the league, eight point

981
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 2: nine yards per attempt and twelve point six yards per completion.

982
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 2: After going into last season for the Browns, he of

983
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 2: course was top three in league history in quarterback rating,

984
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 2: completion percentage, yards per attempt. That has all changed, and

985
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 2: that was last year, rusty. But I think if you're

986
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 2: looking at it, what you would say is you did

987
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 2: see things in every game that were incredibly encouraging, and

988
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 2: you saw improvement from Deshaun Watson as kind of things

989
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 2: went on. Remember he also had one of those games,

990
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 2: and it does have to be noted, was that ridiculous

991
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 2: weather game against the New Orleans Saints. That one he

992
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 2: went fifteen of thirty one forty eight percent with an interception,

993
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: no touchdowns. Other you take that one out, have a

994
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,959
Speaker 2: touchdown running, did have a touchdown running the end zone,

995
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 2: should have had two touchdowns passing in that any there

996
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 2: are a couple of drops. But if you look at

997
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 2: just from a passing standpoint, the final three games, so Baltimore, Washington,

998
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 2: and Pittsburgh, he throws six touchdowns with only two interceptions

999
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 2: in those final three games. That are if you count

1000
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 2: with reasonable weather, the final two games Washington Pittsburgh, five touchdowns,

1001
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 2: two picks. So there were signs of improvement. Certainly, that

1002
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 2: second half against Washington was as good as we saw.

1003
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 2: He's got to clean up the interceptions, as we noted,

1004
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 2: but if you go six to two, three to one

1005
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 2: for a good stretch, that'll be great. Thirty three seven,

1006
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 2: that's better than four to one touchdown to interception ratio.

1007
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson, I'm not worried about him. I think he

1008
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 2: is going to be just fine. I think he's going

1009
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 2: to be incredibly I think he's gonna be elite. I

1010
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 2: think he's even elite quarterback once again in the NFL.

1011
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: I think he's ready for it, and I think the

1012
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:17,720
Speaker 2: Browns will benefit backing him up is Josh Dobbs. Dobbs

1013
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: was a fourth round pick of the Steelers in twenty seventeen.

1014
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 2: Was with the Browns last year for basically the whole season.

1015
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 2: They let him go kind of later in the middle

1016
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 2: of the season after they were able to after Deshaun

1017
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 2: came back, they let him go. Remember his Week eleven.

1018
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 2: They kept Kellen Mond, which I think was kind of

1019
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 2: surprised because remember, Jacoby was the backup last year. Mind

1020
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 2: was more of a developmental third stringer, so they decided

1021
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 2: to make that move. Dobbs goes, I think, to Detroit

1022
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 2: for a little bit and then goes to Tennessee where

1023
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 2: he's actually able to start two games for them, including

1024
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 2: a play in playoff game where if he had gotten

1025
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 2: some little more help from his receivers, perhaps he leads

1026
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 2: them to the playoffs over Jefsonville Drywis. It was not

1027
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:06,280
Speaker 2: his fault, not his fault. No. In those two starts,

1028
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 2: the first two his career sixty percent completions four and

1029
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 2: eleven yards, two touchdowns, two picks. Not a great supporting cast,

1030
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 2: let's be honest about it. And one of the games

1031
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 2: he started, he didn't even have Derrick Henry, so Dobbs

1032
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 2: showed I think a lot. He knows our system, very competent,

1033
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 2: capable backup. Great guy, smart guy, high quality, high character guy.

1034
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 2: He's the number two. The number three is going to

1035
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 2: be a battle between Dorian Thompson Robinson, the Browns draft

1036
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 2: pick out of UCLA, completed about seventy percent of his passes,

1037
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,760
Speaker 2: the all time leader at UCLA in every statistical category

1038
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 2: passing yards, passing touchdowns, total yards, total touchdowns. He's and

1039
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 2: he has had an excellent off season, an excellent offseason,

1040
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:52,439
Speaker 2: so I'm curious to see does he beat out Kellen Mond.

1041
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 2: Kellen Mond, of course, out of Texas A and M,

1042
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 2: was a former third round pick of the Vikings in

1043
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty one NFL draft. They cut him. Prior

1044
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 2: to the twenty twenty two season, the Browns picked him up,

1045
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 2: they brought him into camp. He was basically on our

1046
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 2: team as a practice squad guy all year last year,

1047
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 2: and now he is competing to stay in the program.

1048
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 2: He's competing to stay in that in the Browns, and

1049
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 2: the battle is really for that number three quarter exotition.

1050
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 2: Dorian Thompson Robinson I think has the advantage there. I

1051
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 2: think the in most intriguing part of this offseason will

1052
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 2: be given the four playoff games, will Dorian Thompson Robinson

1053
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 2: show enough in those? I think he's the backup of

1054
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 2: the future, But when is the future? And I think

1055
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 2: if he can play incredibly well, he's got great leadership,

1056
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 2: he's got that confidence, that swagger all about him, you know,

1057
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 2: maybe that future is a little bit more, a little

1058
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 2: bit sooner than perhaps we thought. I think you'll roll

1059
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 2: with Josh Dobbs. You've got to have that veteran here.

1060
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 2: But I think Dorriy Thompson Robinson has a chance absolutely.

1061
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 2: I think in twenty twenty four, the idea is that

1062
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 2: he will be your backup quarterback. The question is just

1063
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,240
Speaker 2: how much does he show this offseason? How much confidence

1064
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 2: do you have in him that maybe if you had

1065
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 2: to go into one of those emergency type situations, you know,

1066
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,479
Speaker 2: how does that depth chart shake out. I think it's

1067
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 2: pretty likely it's gonna be Watson. Watson is the one.

1068
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 2: I think two will be Dobbs and then three will

1069
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 2: be Dorian Thompson Robinson. But I think he has a

1070
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 2: chance to be kind of like a two B as

1071
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 2: opposed to a clear three if he plays.

1072
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 3: Well and Kellen Monty a full off season here now. Yes,

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Speaker 3: And you know, I know it raised some eyebrows when

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00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 3: we signed him. We weren't suck well, we weren't sure

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00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 3: what the end game was at the time. So really

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00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 3: we haven't seen him. We haven't seen him in any

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00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 3: game action.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he so this is a big preseason for him.

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00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's the Browns clearly saw something in him.

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00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 3: What it is, We're gonna find out. And Dorian Thompson

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00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 3: Robinson could make the case that you've got to take

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00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 3: keep three quarterbacks on your active roster.

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00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 2: I think that's likely the case. So the thinking was

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00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 2: with Mond, can we find a long term backup who

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00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 2: could be a cheap option given where our salary cap

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00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 2: situation is going to go? Sure, and I think that

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00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 2: they initially maybe did not think, you know, from what

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00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 2: they've seen. Then the reason that they draft during times

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00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:27,439
Speaker 2: shrumsms because they aren't sure if he is that guy,

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Speaker 2: and so they brought in competition for him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's there's only so many snaps and

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00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,439
Speaker 3: you want Deshan to get as many as he can

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00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 3: in practice. So who gets the rest? You know, obviously

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00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 3: you're going to see numbers two, three and four a

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00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 3: lot more in the preseason than QB one. But how

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00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 3: many snaps are two, three and four going to get

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00:58:55,360 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 3: during training camp and during practice? Yeah, that's going to

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00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 3: be fascinating to see. Is who are the guys that

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00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 3: get those extended reps? Like if Dorian Thompson Robinson comes

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00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 3: in and shows out, you know, does he have a

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00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 3: chance to move up to be the number two this year?

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Speaker 3: Like you said, when is going to be the question?

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00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 2: I think that it's. Like I said, I do think

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00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 2: that it is possible. I do not. I don't think

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00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 2: that it's likely, But it is certainly possible that Dorian

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00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 2: Thompson Robinson can challenge Josh Dobbs as early as this year.

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00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 2: This preseason will go a long way for both of

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00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 2: them and for Kellen Mond. He has a chance to say, look,

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00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 2: I was a third round pick, I absolutely belong here

1110
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 2: and belonging this program, or to at least make a

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00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 2: statement somewhere else and say, you know, I deserve to

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00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 2: be here in the National Football League, and see if

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00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 2: you know there is a team that also feels that way.

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00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 2: But this is those two guys. I don't know that

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00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 2: this there is a bigger preseason in terms of the

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00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 2: opportunity that's going to be provided. There will be other

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00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 2: battles that I think are much more important to making

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00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 2: the fifty three and then perhaps even you know, playing

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01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,439
Speaker 2: this season. But in terms of you know, for these

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Speaker 2: two young quarterbacks, this preseason is an unbelievable opportunity. And

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Speaker 2: I think Dorrin Thomson Robinson's gonna look good in these

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Speaker 2: preseason games. The question is will Kellen mont He struggled

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Speaker 2: at times to throw. We know that out here at practice,

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Speaker 2: We've seen it, and so question is can he do

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Speaker 2: that effectively enough when the lights are on bright Doring

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Speaker 2: thoms Robinson a much more natural thrower of the football

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01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 2: than Kellen Mondis. Kell Aunt was a very good college

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01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 2: player when the third round. I mean, there's a reason

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Speaker 2: teams thought he was a third round talent. Now the

1130
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 2: regime changed there in Minnesota. He went right out and

1131
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 2: that was it's a regime now it's run by people

1132
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Speaker 2: that think a lot like we do. I would imagine

1133
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 2: it with Quacy and so it'll be interesting what the

1134
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 2: future holds for him. But they are gonna have, certainly

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01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 2: the opportunity. They're gonna have the super opportunity because they're

1136
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 2: gonna get to just play so much flat out, they're

1137
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 2: gonna get to have a lot of reps in these

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Speaker 2: four preseason games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be you and Bo have talked about

1140
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 3: It's one of the biggest reasons to watch the preseason, Yeah,

1141
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 3: is you're gonna get to see a lot of these

1142
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 3: young guys battle for these back end roster spots. And

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01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 3: no bigger position than QB two and QB three yep.

1144
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 3: So I mean it's a position. It's a position that

1145
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, QB one's got to

1146
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,919
Speaker 3: play like the QB one from a couple of years ago.

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01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 2: Saul takes care of itself, correct, takes care of itself,

1148
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 2: and I think and I believe that he will. And

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01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 2: that's why I'm very confident about this team. So I

1150
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 2: go back to that they got to just go out

1151
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 2: there and they've got to do it. I believe that

1152
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 2: they will do it because I believe in Deshaun Watson

1153
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 2: as a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Thing's gonna be very good every team. And I get

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01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 3: you know, you don't want to spend overspend at the

1156
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 3: backup quarterback position, and.

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Speaker 2: We're not gonna have the luxury to.

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01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 3: Peyton Manning's QB coach back in the day, was like,

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01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 3: I don't give the backup any because if Peyton Manning

1160
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 3: goes down, we're blanked. Yeah, you know, but you gotta

1161
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 3: have a cop a competent backup. In the NFL, seventeen

1162
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 3: games is a long, long season to go through without

1163
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 3: getting nicked banged up, missing a game. You gotta have

1164
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 3: a guy that can step in and win you a

1165
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 3: game if need be. And you know, yes, three the

1166
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 3: three guys behind QB one. You know, you hope he

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01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 3: plays seventeen games, but in the event he can't, gotta

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Speaker 3: have a guy that can come in and win you

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Speaker 3: a game when you need one.

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Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, that's it you might need at one point.

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01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 2: Hopefully we don't. But this is an important position, obviously,

1172
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Speaker 2: it's the key to everything. And I think Sean Watson

1173
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 2: is gonna come back and he is going to do

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Speaker 2: exactly what he needs to do to get it done.

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Speaker 2: I feel very I'm confident. I like what I've seen

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01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 2: so far. I'm excited to see more. And then obviously

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Speaker 2: it all starts Week one against the Cincinnati Bengals. When

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Speaker 2: we come back, we'll take a look at what ESPN

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01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 2: had to say about the Browns ninth ranked roster in

1180
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Speaker 2: the entire league, and a lot of it is, you

1181
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 2: might guess, centers on Brown's quarterback Deshaun Watson. You're listening

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Speaker 2: to Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Bally Bett. Here

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Clear Brown's Daily, brought to you by

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Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns and now Gibbe. We are alluded to

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Speaker 2: this earlier in the show, so we'll take a look

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Speaker 2: at it right now on ESPN ESPN Plus. Actually it's

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Speaker 2: for their inside stuff, ranking the NFL's rosters for the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three season. Strengths, weaknesses, question marks. Number one,

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Speaker 2: They've got Kansas City Chiefs. And then so they go

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01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 2: strongest unit quarterback, yep, Mahomes, weakest unit safety. They say

1195
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 2: X factor Donovan Smith who steps in for Atlanta Brown junior,

1196
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 2: and a non sert no Justin Ross who was that

1197
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 2: monster with those crazy injuries. But they drafted them anyway,

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01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 2: and supposedly it looks pretty healthy for them right now.

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Speaker 2: But he's got the Chiefs at number one. I don't

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01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 2: know if I agree with that. They are the number

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01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 2: one overall best roster, but Patrick Mahomes is the best player.

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Speaker 3: And I think we've had this in everybody's power rankings,

1203
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 3: post off season power rankings. Kansas City number one can't well,

1204
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 3: they're the super Bowl champs, so until proven otherwise, I

1205
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 3: do agree with you. They've lost some things. Yeah, Travis

1206
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 3: Kelce is a year older. Yeah, I don't know. But

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Speaker 3: as long as you have Patrick Mahomes and as long

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01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 3: as you have Andy Reid.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna be You're gonna be in business.

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Speaker 3: You're you're gonna be able to put yourself in a

1211
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Speaker 3: position to win. Defensively, they always have questions, but they

1212
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 3: always seem to come through and perform when they need to.

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Speaker 2: Agreed. Number two probably the best rostering league to me,

1214
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Speaker 2: the Eagles everywhere.

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Speaker 3: Number three spend a week with him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think it'll be good for us number three.

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01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 3: I think it'll be real good.

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01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 2: The Buffalo Bill's best unit safety Micah Hyde and Jordan

1219
01:05:56,280 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 2: Poyer and Damar Hamlin weakest unit receiver. Says they've got

1220
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs. Gabe Davis is limited. Uh, they have not

1221
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 2: gotten the people that they need to kind of fill

1222
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 2: out that room. They're expecting it to be Dalton Kincaid.

1223
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 2: We'll see if he is. I think that's pretty good.

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01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know about the Buffalo Bills having

1225
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 3: the third best roster. Again. I know you're high on

1226
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 3: their running you back, but I'm like, you still gotta

1227
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 3: you still got to show me something.

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Speaker 2: It's a pretty good defense. It's a pretty it's pretty good,

1229
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 2: but it's really good at Oliver Da Kwon Jones in

1230
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 2: the middle, Leonard Floyd von Miller and Greg Russo as

1231
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 2: edge rushers.

1232
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Speaker 3: What's von Miller going to be?

1233
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 2: What's I still think he's able to get to the quarterback?

1234
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 2: Matt Mlano linebacker. You's talked about, Tredavious White, Kyer Elam

1235
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Speaker 2: Toron Johnson, Hyde Poyer, Hamlin. I mean they're they are

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Speaker 2: a good team. I think that, Okay, and.

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Speaker 3: You know what, maybe they got a point with the

1238
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 3: wide receiver room, Yeah, obviously, but the rest of those

1239
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 3: guys I think took a step back last year.

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01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 2: YEP, Dolphins at number four. It's a pretty good roster.

1241
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that.

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01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 3: Really. Defensively, you want to talk about underrated, That whole

1243
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 3: defense is underrated.

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01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 2: Christian Wilkins, Zach Seeler, Raekwon Davis, Jalen Phillips, Bradley Chubb,

1245
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 2: linebackers Jerome Baker and David Long, Corners, Jalen Ramsey, Zaven

1246
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 2: Howard cater cooh who I talked about safeties, Davon Holland,

1247
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 2: Shawn la Yeah, it's a it's a solid team. It

1248
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 2: says their biggest weakest unit is tight end yep X factor,

1249
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 2: offensive line and quarterback. Two is health. That's it.

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Speaker 3: It should be one thing. Two is health.

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01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: If two is healthy, they're they're a super Bowl contender.

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Speaker 2: They'll be pretty good, or at least it seems like

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Speaker 2: they'll be pretty good. All Right, you got number five.

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Speaker 2: They got the Bengals, which is our fourth team here

1256
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 2: in the AFC out of the top five.

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Speaker 3: But they lost so much defensively.

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Speaker 2: Well, so here's what it says, Strongest unit wide receiver,

1259
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Speaker 2: weakest unit safety. With the departures of Jesse Bates and

1260
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Speaker 2: Von Bell, the session plan will include number thirty one

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Speaker 2: pick overall in twenty twenty two dex Hill x Rams

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Speaker 2: starter Nick Scott and third round rookie Jordan Battle might

1263
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Speaker 2: be bright, but some development will be required, and we'll

1264
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Speaker 2: test them in week one. We're gonna test that new

1265
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:18,560
Speaker 2: back into that defense X factor for twenty three. Jonah Williams,

1266
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 2: he was terrible last year. We'll see what Joonah Williams sayes.

1267
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 2: Who's walking by Gibbe, Who's giving you this as much excitement?

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01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 3: Baco Fila Connor with a k.

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01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:30,679
Speaker 2: Legends Quila Fila Connor great.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you can move into your new space,

1271
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 3: Shed Boys. I think that they're still painting it this morning.

1272
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 3: But all right, I like the effort.

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01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 2: It's sad uh their non starter to knows Chase Brown

1274
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 2: the back of brinning back they drift out Illinois. I

1275
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:45,719
Speaker 2: like that kid. Dallas Cowboys. They have at sixth overall

1276
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 2: strongest unit is edge rusher with Parsons and DeMarcus Lawrence.

1277
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:51,600
Speaker 2: Weakest is with the interior defensive line. That's why they

1278
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 2: drafted Mazzie Smith in the first round. X factor, Gilmour

1279
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,440
Speaker 2: seventh is the Chargers. It's a good team.

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Speaker 3: Is the X actor for the Cowboys. I feel, I mean,

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Speaker 3: maybe it's you could have that for every every team,

1282
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 3: but like Prescott's got to show up, He's got to

1283
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 3: show off this year.

1284
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always. I mean it could be the quarterback

1285
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 2: for every team. I think they're trying to do the

1286
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 2: cases where it's like clearly the quarterback is the X factor,

1287
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 2: like to his health, and I'm pretty sure for us

1288
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 2: that's what we're going to get as well. They've got

1289
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 2: the Chargers at seven. Their X factor is the new

1290
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator, Kellen Moore.

1291
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 3: Would you would you rather take the Chargers roster or

1292
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 3: the Bills roster?

1293
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 2: It's a good question. Probably the Chargers.

1294
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 3: I think the Chargers are a better roster. Probably staff Is.

1295
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 3: I waited heavily toward Buffalo.

1296
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 2: They don't have a great line, but I think they

1297
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 2: I think I think I probably would take the Chargers. Yeah. Overall,

1298
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 2: they're both both very solid eight. It has the Niners,

1299
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 2: So I think, actually, if other than quarterback, might have

1300
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 2: one of the best rosters in the league. Offensively, they're loaded.

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01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 2: Defensively they're loaded, they're X factor obviously they're boys.

1302
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh well, I mean so the quarterback puts them at.

1303
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 2: But strongest unit defensive front seven, weakest unit offensive line

1304
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 2: other than Trent Williams, which is fair X factor Brock Purdy.

1305
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 2: Then it brings us to the Cleveland Browns number nine,

1306
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 2: strongest unit offensive line, where they will return all five

1307
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 2: stars to arguably the league's best offensive line. Jed Wills,

1308
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 2: Jack Conklin, Ethan Posick and the run guards Potonio and

1309
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:32,799
Speaker 2: Wyatt Teller are terrific. Weakest unit defensive tackle depth after

1310
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 2: Dalvin Tomlinson. Depth remains problematic with Elliott parn Winfree, Maurice

1311
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 2: Hurst and rookie Siaki Eka those battling for work. And

1312
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 2: he's He's right, somebody's got to emerge. There's something we've

1313
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:43,639
Speaker 2: talked about a lot, and that's some place I can

1314
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 2: see the brown still adding somebody is to that defensive

1315
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,720
Speaker 2: interior of the defensive line. X factor for twenty twenty three,

1316
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 2: quarterback Deshaun Watson obvious, sure, but the range of outcomes

1317
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 2: here is absolutely massive for both Watson and the roster,

1318
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 2: which is otherwise strong outside the huge question of quarterback.

1319
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 2: If Watson get back to his level play from twenty twenty,

1320
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 2: the Browns could be Super Bowl contenders. It's exactly right,

1321
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 2: non sorry to know. Siaki Eka third round pick, played

1322
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:09,879
Speaker 2: mostly at zero and two to two I at Baylor.

1323
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 2: He generated thirty pressures from those spots over the past

1324
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 2: two seasons, second most among all FBS players in that span.

1325
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:19,680
Speaker 2: I mean, the Rosser is loaded. We know it is.

1326
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 2: You got three excellent corners, You're three deep at safety,

1327
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 2: you're five deep along the offensive line, a defensive line.

1328
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. When you got Dalvin and the idea that

1329
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 2: you can have Miles, the Darius Obo Kuran quad, they're together.

1330
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 2: Maybe another interior guy steps up. Maybe it's Alex right

1331
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 2: in there. You're line solid. I like your receiver tree

1332
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:39,759
Speaker 2: of Cooper, Elijamore, DPJ loves Haven Njoku and then Aiken's

1333
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 2: and Bryant there, and then you've got Nick Chubb. I mean,

1334
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 2: it's all there. It's all there. So the Browns are nine.

1335
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 2: In case you're wondering. The Jets are tenth, and obviously

1336
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 2: they are a very good team. Strongest unit for them,

1337
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 2: it's got cornerback. Weakest unit tackle, which could be the

1338
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 2: one thing that takes down Aaron Rodgers X factor. Carl

1339
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:02,679
Speaker 2: Lawson two years removed from the Achilles injury. Most likely

1340
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 2: Jets outside rusher to hit double digit sex. I like that.

1341
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 2: There you go so solid. Ravens are eleven if you

1342
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 2: were wondering, and then the Steelers are fourteen. So our

1343
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 2: whole division is considered to be top half of rosters

1344
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 2: in the NFL, which is great.

1345
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 3: How many AFC teams were in the top ten.

1346
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 2: Top ten, seven top ten in the AFC. Let's see

1347
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 2: one for one, one oh two, two of three, three

1348
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 2: of four, four of five, four of six, five of seven,

1349
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 2: five of eight, six of nine, seven of ten, eight

1350
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:43,440
Speaker 2: of eleven, eight of twelve, nine of thirteen, ten of fourteen,

1351
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 2: eleven of the top fifteen or in the AFC.

1352
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:51,680
Speaker 3: And four of the top fifteen or AFC North.

1353
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:52,679
Speaker 2: For the top fourteen.

1354
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, Pitts Pukesen shouldn't be that high.

1355
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 2: Well, it's a good roster.

1356
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 3: It's top They have a good roster.

1357
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 2: Just Kenny Pickett's good. They're gonna be very difficult.

1358
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 3: They will be a problem, hopefully not.

1359
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 2: Hopefully not.

1360
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:09,600
Speaker 3: I would like them to not be a problem.

1361
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 2: Agreed, You and I both all right? When we come

1362
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:14,680
Speaker 2: back here, we're going to take a look at a

1363
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 2: survey of top executives, GMS, people of that level of importance,

1364
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 2: luminaries around the NFL. Top ten players who are in

1365
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 2: the interior. I have not Maybe we should guess them,

1366
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 2: all right, I'll try to guess them. Okay, there we go.

1367
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 2: Top ten defensive tackles in the NFL. Coming up next here,

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01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by bally Bet.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by bally Bet, coming

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Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome back into Cleveland Brown's Daily, brought to

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01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 2: you by bally Bett, a sports betting partner of the

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01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns, coming soon to Ohio. Nathan Zegurra and Jason

1374
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 2: Gibbs with you. Before we get to the top ten

1375
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 2: defensive tackles around the league. And this is so people

1376
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 2: understand this from ESPN's Jeremy Fowler. It's ranking the NFL's

1377
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 2: best players at every position for twenty twenty three, execs, coaches,

1378
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 2: scouts picked their top ten. Here's the criteria. Voters gave

1379
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 2: them their best ten players at a position. Then they

1380
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 2: compiled the results and rank candidates based on a number

1381
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 2: of top ten votes and composite average, along with dozens

1382
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 2: of interviews, research and film study helped from espnnfl Anos,

1383
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 2: Matt Bowen. In total, more than eighty voters submitted a

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01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 2: ballot on at least one position and in many cases

1385
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:43,639
Speaker 2: all position. They had several ties, so they broke them

1386
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 2: with the help of additional voting and follow up calls.

1387
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 2: With those surveys, so far we have done defensive tackles

1388
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 2: and edge rushers and gibbe or see if I can

1389
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 2: how many of the top ten I can?

1390
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 3: I can guess or get That's fine. They also added

1391
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 3: it's a beautiful year to be a top shelf defensive back.

1392
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 3: A rough year for a team to have to pay

1393
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:07,759
Speaker 3: one four tackles received extensions or free agency contracts worth

1394
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 3: eighty four million or more. Boy making more than twenty

1395
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 3: million without the name Donald on the back of the

1396
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 3: jersey used to be difficult, but no longer. Yeah, give

1397
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 3: me your top ten Montfere.

1398
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna say, I mean, at this.

1399
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:27,600
Speaker 3: Point I would say I would just I don't know

1400
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:30,639
Speaker 3: if you need to rank them, so I'll just say

1401
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 3: you can got be ten names?

1402
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:34,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right? Aaron Donald, yep?

1403
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 3: Number one.

1404
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 2: Javon Hargrave, Yes, number five, Number five, Okay, Cam Hayward.

1405
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 2: Let's see here, he's got to be on the list.

1406
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 2: Number nine, okay, all right, says we're three for three.

1407
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 2: I think it's Jeffrey Simmons from Tennessee.

1408
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 3: Ah, my friend, you would be correct. Number three, four for.

1409
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:12,719
Speaker 2: Four, number three, DeForest Buckner.

1410
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 3: DeForest Buckner is on here. Let me find him. Number

1411
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 3: seven for the number at age twenty nine. You are

1412
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 3: five for five.

1413
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 2: I know, but now now it's to be more. Check

1414
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 2: you're missing a couple a couple of very obvious ones.

1415
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 3: Yep.

1416
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 2: Does Fletcher Cox still on the list? Uh no, No,

1417
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 2: he is not Vida Veya.

1418
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 3: He is honorable mention.

1419
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 2: Oh boy, I feel like I'm the fact I'm missing

1420
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 2: number two is crazy. Is Eric Armstead considered an interior

1421
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 2: defensive lineman.

1422
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 3: I don't believe.

1423
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 2: So, okay, all right, so I got five off the

1424
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 2: top of my head.

1425
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 3: He is not. He was also receiving boats. He wasn't

1426
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 3: even honorable mention.

1427
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 2: Okay, er receiving boats? All right? No, Fletcher Cox, Oh,

1428
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 2: Quentin Williams.

1429
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 3: You know one. Uh, let's see number four on the

1430
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 3: list with the New York Football Jets.

1431
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 2: The guy with the Giants, Dexter Lawrence.

1432
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 3: Young Grasshopper number six on the list.

1433
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:38,719
Speaker 2: All right, so I need three more. Doron Payne number

1434
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 2: eight on the list. Jonathan Allen number ten on the list.

1435
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 2: So I need one more, and I'm missing number two.

1436
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:47,799
Speaker 3: You're missing number two.

1437
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 2: And it's so obvious.

1438
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 3: I'm sure it is.

1439
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 2: I had a nice comeback right there. I felt good

1440
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:57,679
Speaker 2: about that comeback.

1441
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 3: Then you did? You went like you went for the

1442
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 3: three game losing streak, and then and then I read

1443
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 3: four seven out of the ten.

1444
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 2: Ultimately right now we're at nine of the ten. Well yeah,

1445
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 2: but without a hiccup? Yeah yeah, And I'm missing number

1446
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 2: two and I'm totally drawing a blank on it. So

1447
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 2: who is it? I'm gonna get so mad?

1448
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 3: Plays for the Kansas City Chiefs.

1449
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 2: Oh, Chris Jones, there you go? Okay? All right?

1450
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Aaron Donald was number one, Christi Jones number two,

1451
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 3: Jeffrey Simmons number three, Quinn Williams four, Javon Hargrave number five.

1452
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 3: Would you redo any of those?

1453
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 2: These guys are all beasts? No? I think Yeah. All

1454
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 2: these guys in the top ten are awesome, Like Doron

1455
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 2: Payn was awesome, less your so is Jonathan.

1456
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 3: Allen, Dexter Lawrence was six to Forrest Buckner seven, Yeah,

1457
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 3: Deron Payne eight, Cam Hayward nine, Jonathan Allen number ten.

1458
01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 3: The honorable mentions were Christian Wilkins from.

1459
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:02,639
Speaker 2: Yeah for Miami, uh huh by.

1460
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 3: By YEP, Kenny Clark from the packerss, Derek Brown from Carolina, Oh,

1461
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 3: more of a run guy, Leonard Williams from the Giants YEP.

1462
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 3: Also receiving votes were Grady Jarrett from the Falcons.

1463
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 2: He was the name I was going to go to,

1464
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 2: Grady Jarrett, Yeah.

1465
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 3: Your boy, Armstead from the forty nine Ers, DJ Reader

1466
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 3: from the Bengals, Draymont Jones from the Seahawks YEP, Cleveland's

1467
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 3: own Dalvin Tomlinson okay At Oliver from Buffalo YEP, and

1468
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 3: Grover Stewart from the Colts. So the Browns with a

1469
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 3: guy on.

1470
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 2: That list right made it on the list. Okay, all right,

1471
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 2: very good, very good. Yeah, that's a loaded group on one.

1472
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 3: Of the top one of the top twenty at their position.

1473
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:50,759
Speaker 3: Dalvin Tomlinson makes the list.

1474
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 2: And Chris Jones, Yeah, Chris Jones and Aaron Donald are Yeah,

1475
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 2: that's that's one and two. I can't get Chris Jones

1476
01:19:57,040 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 2: right away. All right, all right, you're safe, all right.

1477
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 2: So edge rushers, he did the same thing, yes, all right,

1478
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 2: this one. I feel like I don't know if I'll

1479
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 2: get all ten because there's so many good ed rushers.

1480
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think you'll be doing all right, all right.

1481
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 2: Nick Bosa number one, miles number two for your Cleveland Browns.

1482
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 2: T J. Watt number four, number four, okay, Brian Burns

1483
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:34,600
Speaker 2: from Carolina, number seven, okay. Hassan Reddick.

1484
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,760
Speaker 3: Number five for the Philadelphia Eagles.

1485
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:47,599
Speaker 2: Okay. Josh Sweat, he might make honorable mention. He doesn't

1486
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 2: get he had eleven sacks for the Eagles, but I

1487
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:50,679
Speaker 2: think he gets lost because of a son.

1488
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:55,839
Speaker 3: Reddick he was. He was also receiving boats.

1489
01:20:55,880 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 2: Not even honorable, okay, Joey number ten on the list.

1490
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson, uh, mister underappreciator or underrated honorable mention. Oh,

1491
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Speaker 2: maybe he is underappreciated.

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01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 3: Maybe it says his sixteen point eight pressure rate led

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01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 3: the league for the second straight season.

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Speaker 2: He's pretty good, Matthew. Matthew Judan number eight on your list,

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Speaker 2: So that's to have seven or eight of them, like seven? Maybe,

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01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 2: Evan I believe Zadarius Smith.

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Speaker 3: Zadarius Smith was Uh, let's see receiving votes.

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01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 2: What yeah, put that up on the bolt, put that

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Speaker 2: up in the locker.

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Speaker 3: Roo yep, non honorable mention. Receiving votes. Let's see, you

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Speaker 3: were missing number nine, you are missing number six, you

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01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 3: are missing number three.

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01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:08,599
Speaker 2: I'm missing number three.

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01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 3: Yep, number three.

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01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:16,559
Speaker 2: It's got to be an obvious one that I'm not

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01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 2: thinking right now. Alex high Smith. No, I don't know

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01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 2: if he's he's got to be mentioned receiving votes any list.

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01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 2: He didn't even receive any votes. No, wow, Okay, Danielle Hunter.

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01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 3: Also receiving votes.

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01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 2: Well, it says defensive end. But what like Micah Parsons

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01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 2: isn't a defensive end? But is he? Is?

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01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:53,640
Speaker 3: It?

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Speaker 2: An EDG Dresher? So my MICHAEH. Parsons?

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01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:59,680
Speaker 3: Uh huh did I say defensive end?

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01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 2: Well, that's what says on the thing, it says defensive end,

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01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 2: doesn't it?

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01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it but their first sentence is breaking down

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01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 3: the top edge rushers.

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01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 2: Okay, change your thing then yeah, then yes, Michael Parsons

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01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 2: is number three. Oh we talked about thet for the Raiders,

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01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:20,559
Speaker 2: Max Crosby.

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01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 3: There you go, number six, all right?

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01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:26,719
Speaker 2: Then number nine Cam Jordan of the of the Saints

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01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 2: would should be should No?

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01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 3: What honorable mention? H How about von Miller?

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01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:36,679
Speaker 2: Amy was really good but they got hurt.

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01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, thirty four years old coming off of torn ACL Like,

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01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:43,599
Speaker 3: I don't I feel like the national media is putting

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01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 3: a lot of stock in guys coming back from acls,

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01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 3: obj von Miller, Like, I know it's an injury now

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01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 3: that you can recover from a lot better due to

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01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 3: the advances in medicine, but you are discounting the age

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01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 3: that you're coming back from seid injury.

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01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 2: Yeah about Kyle Mack.

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01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 3: Uh Khalil Mack was receiving I was honorable mention. Okay

1536
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:11,559
Speaker 3: finished his first season with the Chargers, posted eight sacks,

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01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:15,639
Speaker 3: two forced fumbles, four pass breakups. He's been a really

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01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 3: good player, but always left me wanting more. An NFL

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01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 3: personnel evaluator said, I don't know if that was. That's

1540
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 3: a rough little thing there. From honorable mention Jalen Phillips

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01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:33,640
Speaker 3: from the Dolphins, Aiden Hutchinson.

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01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 2: I was going to give him. He was going to

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01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:37,679
Speaker 2: be one of my guests as if I had to keep.

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01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:45,559
Speaker 3: Going Hendrickson, Khalil Mack, Cam Jordan receiving votes Cleveland's own

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01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 3: Zadarius Smith, Rashawn Gary from the Packers, Daneil Hunter from Minnesota,

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01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:54,000
Speaker 3: Chandler Jones.

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01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 2: From Jones was terrible last year.

1548
01:24:55,360 --> 01:25:03,839
Speaker 3: Though I agree, Josh Sweat from the Eagles, Luis Can't.

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01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:07,599
Speaker 2: Just from Seattle, YEP. And then Shaq Barrett, Jack Barrett,

1550
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 2: Shaq Barrett, Shack Barrett like love the league in sacks

1551
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 2: not that long ago, No, like I think they're Super

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01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 2: Bowl year. He at nineteen.

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01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:22,599
Speaker 3: I want to say, this is just it's interesting. You know,

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01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 3: Miles comes in at number two our twenty twenty one

1555
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:30,480
Speaker 3: number one pass rusher shook off some early career inconsistency,

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01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 3: became one of the more most disruptive forces in the NFL,

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01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:39,599
Speaker 3: and NFC execs said he really probably should be first

1558
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:42,719
Speaker 3: every year. He's just not as consistent as some others.

1559
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 3: On the list, but he's the best singular talent. An

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01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:51,440
Speaker 3: NFL personnel evaluator said he might be the most imposing

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01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 3: defensive player at any positioned. His ability to take over

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01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:56,520
Speaker 3: a game is unique.

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01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 2: It is Miles Garrett. He is, He is incredible, and

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01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 2: I will you wonder, you know, is this the year

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01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 2: with the offense the way that it is, we're going

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01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 2: to finally be a defense that's playing with a lot

1567
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:13,600
Speaker 2: of leads? Does this lead to a completely just monstrous

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01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 2: campaign from Miles.

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01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 3: Garrett coming off back to back seasons of sixteen sacks?

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01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 2: Yep.

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01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:23,679
Speaker 3: He has twenty four turnovers forced by pressure since twenty seventeen,

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01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:27,760
Speaker 3: leading the rest of the defensive field by five. That's

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01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 3: an impressive number. Yeah, twenty seven years old. God, he

1574
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 3: and a Djoku? When did they grow up?

1575
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 2: And because it's been a while, man, it's been a while.

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01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 2: Unfortunately he was drafted seventeen. It's just it's been a while.

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01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:47,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, been a.

1578
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 2: While still, I know.

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01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 3: I mean, Bosa, is there anything you disagree with here?

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01:26:55,640 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 2: No? I think I think that Bye Birds is the four,

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01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 2: is the right top four. Brian Burns is very good.

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01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 2: Son Reddick, I think that Son Reddick has a case

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01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:07,680
Speaker 2: of being higher than he is on the list as

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01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:11,559
Speaker 2: a better lower number higher up the list, but he's

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01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 2: very that's the top five is pretty unimpeachable. Like that's

1586
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 2: a pretty darn good group of pass rushers.

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01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:18,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a low listen and those guys that can

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01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:23,639
Speaker 2: do it make a big difference. And what the Browns

1590
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:26,720
Speaker 2: are hoping is even as an also receiving votes. You know,

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01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 2: that's the best option we've had opposite Miles yet. And

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01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 2: you know what does it lead to? What does that

1593
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:33,600
Speaker 2: produce for the Browns? That's going to be one of

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01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 2: the big stories this season for our defense.

1595
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. I everybody's got to stay healthy. Yes, got to

1596
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:44,519
Speaker 3: get off to a good start. Yes, that means meeting

1597
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 3: at the quarterback quick quick quick, So always top twenty

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01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:52,559
Speaker 3: defensive ends. We have a guy that's number two and

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01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 3: a guy that's ranked between sixteen and twenty in Hydarius Smith.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty good defensive tackle. We have a top twenty player.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 3: So that's three guys right there.

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01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:04,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well that's why we like it. Are we get front, we.

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01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 3: Need one keep stacking guys.

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01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 2: We need that fourth guy and then we need you know,

1606
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 2: Obo to be what we drafted we signed him to be,

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01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 2: which even if he was our number two, but as

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01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 2: a situational guy, you know, be another stud and we

1609
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 2: can try to be like that Eagles scene where you

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01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 2: got you know, multiple guys in double digit with double

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01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 2: digit sacks, which would be which would be awesome for us.

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Speaker 2: Jason Gibbs today on the show talk about the quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: as we will continue to do our position previews as

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Speaker 2: we get you ready for a Browns training camp that

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Speaker 3: I can't wrap my head around that. That's also probably

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Speaker 3: why I'm not sleeping at night, just trying to get

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Speaker 3: everything up and running.

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Speaker 2: Listen, we're gonna have We're going to have a great time.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited about it. I know you're excited about it.

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Speaker 2: We're going to get it going. Absolutely, it's going to

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Speaker 2: be glorious, a glorious season for the Cleveland Browns. And

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Speaker 2: part of the reason the strength on that defensive line.

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01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 2: You heard top twenty defensive tackle, a d number two

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Speaker 2: defensive end, and a top twenty compliment to him in

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01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:49,280
Speaker 2: Zadarius Smith's so the best pair of pass rushers the

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Speaker 2: Browns certainly have had with Miles Garrett in the mix here.

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01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 2: So we looked at all those things. The number nine

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Speaker 2: overall roster, we'll have much more for you to come bo.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back with us tomorrow as we can thank

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Speaker 2: you to get you ready for the start of what

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Speaker 2: is really one of the most critical training camps and

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Speaker 2: starts to a season in Cleveland Brown's history. That is

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Speaker 2: coming up because we go to the Greenbrier Hall of

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Speaker 2: Fame game Philly, two more preseason games think Washington than

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Speaker 2: Kansas City, and then we open the season against the

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals in a monstrous monstrous game. All right, the

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