WEBVTT - Second Date Update: Double Booked Dating Fail

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<v Speaker 1>Second date of date. Sometimes with a bad first date,

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<v Speaker 1>there's one moment that you can look back on and

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<v Speaker 1>say that was it, That was where I messed everything up? Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>For me, each date has about fourteen of those. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it when I did the full reenactment of the movie

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<v Speaker 1>Garden State? Was that it's you? Or was it when

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<v Speaker 1>my zipper got caught in the sushi conveyor belt? How

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<v Speaker 1>I still don't you know too much? Well? One of

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<v Speaker 1>our listeners says that she knows that she made a

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<v Speaker 1>huge mistake in one moment and she's regretting it today.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why she's asking for our help. Her name's Jessica. Jessica,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the show. Hey guys, Jica. Before you let

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<v Speaker 1>us know, I just want to say, sometimes it's good

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<v Speaker 1>to only have one giant bad thing go wrong, because

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<v Speaker 1>at least went wrong. Yeah. Did you have a sushi

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<v Speaker 1>conveyor belt incident too? There was no sushi involved. Good

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<v Speaker 1>tragedy avoided. What happened with this guy what's his name?

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<v Speaker 1>How I went out with Vince? Kay? Okay? And how

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<v Speaker 1>do you know Vince? How'd you guys meet? It was

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<v Speaker 1>online so it was kind of you know, like a

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<v Speaker 1>first sort of blind date online and it was good.

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<v Speaker 1>It was it was it was nice. We had a

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<v Speaker 1>really good vibe and all right, well we'll play a song,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll come back. We should hear more about it. Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean were you were you shocked that it was

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<v Speaker 1>going that well? I totally was. I you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>had kind of low expectations, but I don't know. He

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<v Speaker 1>was just it was humble and cool and fun and

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<v Speaker 1>we're having a good time. The problem is, so because

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<v Speaker 1>I have these low expectations, I kind of sort of

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<v Speaker 1>accidentally double booked myself that night, oh like with another

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<v Speaker 1>date or with a party or something. No, it was

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<v Speaker 1>another date. Oh girl, Sosa why too in the same night.

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<v Speaker 1>I just figured we'd we'd eat and we're like, okay, thanks,

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<v Speaker 1>that was fine by and then that would be it.

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's kind of been my experience. Was Vince aware

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<v Speaker 1>that you had two dates going on that night? He

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<v Speaker 1>was not. He was nut And you know, looking back,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's the moment like I should have canceled

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<v Speaker 1>because I lost track of time and when I realized

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<v Speaker 1>I was like twenty minutes away from the second date,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh shoot, So I had to

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<v Speaker 1>wrap things up really fast. He was like, oh, we're done,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, yeah, I'm so sorry, I gotta go.

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<v Speaker 1>And I then mote him some money for the like

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<v Speaker 1>half a bill, you know, because I didn't want it

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<v Speaker 1>to be like thank good bye. Why did you actually

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<v Speaker 1>leave before the bill came well, like it had just

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<v Speaker 1>gotten there. Yeah, but like you didn't let him like

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<v Speaker 1>walk you back to your car or anything like that. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to run. Oh man, oh yeah, just as

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<v Speaker 1>a guy having to sit there and watch your date

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<v Speaker 1>like bolt on you yeah, before you were even finished,

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<v Speaker 1>like totally paying the bill and then they veno you,

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<v Speaker 1>which is feels it like business tripsactioning right. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think, I mean, I think he could tell that

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<v Speaker 1>something was going on because he was asking me, are

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<v Speaker 1>you okay? Like did I did I do something? Or

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<v Speaker 1>oh you know when I was trying to tell no, no no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not you, You're great, this is good. I just

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<v Speaker 1>becoming personal came up. I gotta I gotta run. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I would almost prefer a girl to sneak

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<v Speaker 1>out on me, yeah, rather than like collect herself frantically

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<v Speaker 1>be like okay, sorry, I gotta go. By no, you

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<v Speaker 1>just reschedule. You should have been honest and you said

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<v Speaker 1>the luck I have something going on. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>give you my full attention. You know, it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>job interview. You don't want the person interviewing and being like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>just tell me about yourself real quick. I gotta go,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta come. Yeah. Based on your profile picture and

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<v Speaker 1>your interest, I had very very low expectations. I never

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<v Speaker 1>ever thought this was gonna go like this. But yeah, sorry, by.

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<v Speaker 1>And the thing is, I'm guessing the second date went

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<v Speaker 1>terribly because we're not calling the second date for a

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<v Speaker 1>second date update, we're calling the first dude. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what happened with guy number two? Yeah? Guy number two

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<v Speaker 1>was a no show? Oh? I bet you. I bet

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<v Speaker 1>you felt I would feel so foolish at that point,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I did. I waited an hour at the bar

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<v Speaker 1>for this guy, and I just felt like a bigots full.

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<v Speaker 1>And so after my hour of waiting, I texted Vince

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, hey, so I cleared that up.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're still out, I'd love to hang out some more,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of trying to smooth it over, and he texted

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<v Speaker 1>me back l ol. Oh yeah, yeah, oh he is

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<v Speaker 1>a yeah, and that's all you guys have talked since. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried texting him one other time and he didn't respond,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was just like, Okay, I'm gonna leave it alone.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to pesture him, but I'm feeling really

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<v Speaker 1>really bad about it, and I you know, I'm hoping

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<v Speaker 1>it's something that I could kind of come back from.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. If you tell him the truth, it

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<v Speaker 1>makes you sound bad, like, hey, I'm only calling you

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<v Speaker 1>back because this guy stood me up, I think. But

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<v Speaker 1>you can explain it as like you made a mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>He's dating, like he gets it, like it's hard, it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to make decisions. It always feels like the more

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<v Speaker 1>you date, the more options you'll have or something. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't want to date to leave me

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<v Speaker 1>for another day. Yeah, I mean nobody would. But do

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<v Speaker 1>we have to tell him that part? No, that's why

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<v Speaker 1>you don't Okay, Well, I think we're gonna go in

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<v Speaker 1>planning to not tell him. Yes, But you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>if it slips out, then it slips out. You do

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<v Speaker 1>this every once in a while, somebody wants what they

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<v Speaker 1>can't have. Yeah, and if he thinks that she's wanted

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<v Speaker 1>by a lot of other people. That's not necessarily to

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<v Speaker 1>play some games. I don't know. Maybe we should say

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't just one extra date. Maybe it was twenty

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<v Speaker 1>extra dance and the other guys could match up to Vince.

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<v Speaker 1>They were all rich and famous, that's right, and Vince

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<v Speaker 1>was better than all of them. We're gonna play a song,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll come back, we'll call Vince, and we'll try and

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<v Speaker 1>get your second date up date. Okay, Jessica, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, hold on second date. You know, the saying

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<v Speaker 1>is nice guys finished last. Yeah, but that's not always true.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they don't even get to finish dinner before the

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<v Speaker 1>date ducks out on you for a hotter guy out.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry for the low glow there, Jessica, but that is

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<v Speaker 1>what she did to a great dude that she was

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<v Speaker 1>with named Vince. She had to leave early to go

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<v Speaker 1>meet up with another guy, and what happened other guy

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<v Speaker 1>know showed Yeah, any thing is Jeffrey. If you liked

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<v Speaker 1>Vince Moore, you would have booked his date second. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like, you wouldn't have put

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<v Speaker 1>him first. She went in with those low expectations, so Jessica,

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to know we are going to try

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<v Speaker 1>our very best here, but even though we're enjoying ourselves,

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<v Speaker 1>we have another phone call book with a possibly better

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<v Speaker 1>hotter listener in ten minutes, so we're gonna trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make this quick. Okay, all right, well really really please

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<v Speaker 1>if we can not tell him about the other date, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so why did you leave? Then, I mean we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to tell him something family emergency, right like

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<v Speaker 1>it made it a family emergency and we just met.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't have to know those he fails. Yeah, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the detail? Grandpa's sick? Like she said she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to know the details. He doesn't need to do

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<v Speaker 1>what if he asks, like, oh my god, family emergency?

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<v Speaker 1>Is everyone? Okay? What do we say business? Okay? Talk

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<v Speaker 1>about my family? Yeah? All right, all right, we'll get defensive.

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<v Speaker 1>We're aggressive, vague aggressive. All right, We're ready. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>dial Vince's phone number, try and get your second date update.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go, Hello, Hey, is this Vince? This is him?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's this Evans? My name is Jeff from a morning

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<v Speaker 1>radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. What's

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<v Speaker 1>up was awkward silence. I freaked out. Okay, we're all here,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on. Great, it's a segment, yea, it is

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<v Speaker 1>an awkward segment that we do. It's called a second

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<v Speaker 1>date update. We're calling on behalf of one of our

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<v Speaker 1>listeners who went out on a date with you. Her

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<v Speaker 1>name's Jessica. Oh yeah, Jessica. Okay, she really liked you really. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, it doesn't seem like she liked you because

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<v Speaker 1>she left the date in such a hurry. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>just one of the things that she does when she

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<v Speaker 1>really likes the guy. Uh, she gets nervous and panics

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<v Speaker 1>and leaves. It's a problem. Oh so, so she told

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<v Speaker 1>you guys what happened. Yeah. Yeah, she give us a

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<v Speaker 1>little recap of it, and she and she actually felt

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<v Speaker 1>bad about it. Yeah, I mean, she she thought us

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't want to have to leave, but she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really have a choice family emergency. Um okay, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I just kind of doubt that's really the case.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she texted you later, she said, just to

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<v Speaker 1>let you know that she was like still interested. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she did. She did texting me later. She wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>like me back up right, and we heard you texted

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<v Speaker 1>back kind of snarky, just lol. Yeah, I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>said that because she really seemed like she had better

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<v Speaker 1>things to do and she had somewhere else more important

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<v Speaker 1>to be. Like, we were having a great time, we

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<v Speaker 1>were eating, and she pretty much ended it in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of us eating and left. But that's not really

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<v Speaker 1>fair to her because it could have been something that

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<v Speaker 1>was totally out of her control. Oh really, So, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys talk to her. So what did she say

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<v Speaker 1>was out of her control? She know, she made a

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<v Speaker 1>commitment that she had to follow through on. Yeah, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this sounds really general and vague, but yeah, do you

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<v Speaker 1>have a problem with that? Yeahgan aggressive, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just mean it's it's kind of hard to believe

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<v Speaker 1>considering the way that it sort of ended. Like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I just feel like, so you say that

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<v Speaker 1>you think she's lying. Yeah, well, I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the thing, like, and you know, I'll be completely honest

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<v Speaker 1>with you guys, but I've had some trust issues from

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<v Speaker 1>the past, and everything when we were talking seemed pretty good,

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<v Speaker 1>the way that everything sounded, and she seemed pretty straightforward,

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<v Speaker 1>but my trust issues kind of came into play, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to sort of see like where her

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<v Speaker 1>head was at. So I actually had one of my

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<v Speaker 1>closest friends, who is you know, he's basically a model

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<v Speaker 1>when he is a model and looks, you know, really

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<v Speaker 1>good looking dude, and so he actually matched with her,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had asked him, like, you know, why don't

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<v Speaker 1>you schedule sort of like a date for the same day.

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<v Speaker 1>I know this is crazy, and you know, it was

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<v Speaker 1>like putting it all out there, but this is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of why I feel so just really disappointed. Second, you

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<v Speaker 1>already knew about the other date that she had scheduled. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so he reached out and she already had a date

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<v Speaker 1>scheduled with me. Kid, dude, you set a trap for her. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that, to be honest, she would be

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<v Speaker 1>that thirsty to hop on it. Come on, if you

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<v Speaker 1>had a model that matched with you and wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>go out the same night, you're not telling me that

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<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't book her. Still, I actually would have just

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<v Speaker 1>canceled the other date and gone out with the models.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you two dates? You wouldn't want to? Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because then it kind of just felt like a pity date.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Yeah, I don't like this. That's low, man.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that you're missing an opportunity, Like if

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<v Speaker 1>you could give her some grace here, like you may

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<v Speaker 1>actually find somebody who you really connect with. And like,

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why I put the test out there was

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<v Speaker 1>because she put on her profile. She's tired of the game,

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<v Speaker 1>she's looking for something really meaningful, and I felt like

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<v Speaker 1>we were aligning really well. I did, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>why I was like before I even how serious are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Or are you just another girl who puts it on

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<v Speaker 1>her profile but really just wants to you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like maybe there is some truth to what she's

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<v Speaker 1>saying there, because she clearly wants to connect with you,

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<v Speaker 1>because she's actually on the other line listening this entire time.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't help trust is shoes. She wants to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you right now. Man, Wait, she's listening to this

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing. Yeah, don't you trust her now? She's right there? Jessica, Hi, awkward? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>how's it going, Jessica? Not great? I feel really bad

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<v Speaker 1>that I couldn't figure out like what I needed to

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<v Speaker 1>do in that moment and make a better choice. But

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<v Speaker 1>I feel really bad for you and those trust is

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<v Speaker 1>shoes and the mind games, and that's wow, that's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so much on both sides. Like I think you

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<v Speaker 1>both just hang up before we even get into this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just too much. I'm not embarrassed at all what

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<v Speaker 1>I did. If anything, I feel like it gave me

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<v Speaker 1>clarity on sort of what you're where you stand, on

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<v Speaker 1>what you're looking for. And I mean, I get it,

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<v Speaker 1>I get why you're you're feeling bad, but like at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, like you could have easily

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<v Speaker 1>just not gone on that date, or you could have

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<v Speaker 1>canceled it, whatever you chose to do that that's totally fine.

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<v Speaker 1>You were set up. I know that's a little embarrassing,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just like, you don't have to waste I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that you can gauge in one date like

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<v Speaker 1>what someone's all about and if they're really serious, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I owed you nothing. But I feel bad that I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't make the choice because I don't know. I wish

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<v Speaker 1>i'd been more decisive. But I can be decisive right

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<v Speaker 1>now and tell you that absolutely we don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>fother with it because that's my games. I'm not interested.

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<v Speaker 1>You're already cutting it off now, I can totally appreciate that,

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<v Speaker 1>And to be honest, if it wasn't for the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that you texted me back after you were stood up,

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<v Speaker 1>asking to hang out again like that same night, I

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<v Speaker 1>totally would have met up for a second date, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, i'd just feel a little about it. But

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that you text me back right away just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of showed like how it felt into you. It

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<v Speaker 1>saynt I was into you. I mean I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be the one not showing up. I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be the no show because that sucks and I

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<v Speaker 1>know what that feels like. So for whoever the other

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<v Speaker 1>guy was, I didn't want to be that person. And

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<v Speaker 1>when he didn't show up, I was relieved and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, cool, maybe Vince is still down, Maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>can fix this. You guys are both making it. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a valid point on Jessica's part. I can see where

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<v Speaker 1>she's coming from, and she's probably obviously like like she said,

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<v Speaker 1>not interested, which is totally fine. I honestly don't have

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<v Speaker 1>any hard feelings toward her. If I saw Jessica in

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<v Speaker 1>the street and we said hello and talked, great, you

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<v Speaker 1>just sound a little aggressive, like I should just go

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<v Speaker 1>out and like let your guards down a little bit. Jessica,

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<v Speaker 1>are you not going to apologize to Vince for ditching

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<v Speaker 1>out in the middle of the day, Well, the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the date, paid for half the dinner, like it

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<v Speaker 1>was the end of it. It's not like she'd left

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle, like he should apologize for her. Did apologize,

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, I'm sorry if I set you up

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<v Speaker 1>for the trap, but you were the one that scheduled

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<v Speaker 1>another date right after me. Oh, it's not a real

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<v Speaker 1>enough none at all. He said, I'm proud of what

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<v Speaker 1>I did. Was this male model friend up to anyway?

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard of, Jessica apologize once. I don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I need to apologize. I did not lie to him.

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<v Speaker 1>I told him I needed to go. I didn't owe

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<v Speaker 1>him anything. Yeah, and it's not your it's not your fault,

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<v Speaker 1>Jessica that his friend was hotter. Yeah, and it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>about the friend being a hotter you guy, kitty. It

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like we're not going to be able to get

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<v Speaker 1>another date out of this for anybody, But did we

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<v Speaker 1>at least learn an important life lesson from it all? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Online dating is a waste of time. Close. This show

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<v Speaker 1>is a waste of time. But you know, thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>playing Broke and Jeffrey in the morning. You know, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>in these second date updates, you can feel the ships

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<v Speaker 1>start to sink and we can try and bail it

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<v Speaker 1>out and try and save it, or sometimes there doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>really matter. It's going full Titanic. This is gonna sink

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what, and we just have to. Yeah, chalk

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<v Speaker 1>it up to a bad day. That was definitely this

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<v Speaker 1>second date update. There is no chance. But I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 1>sure she's going to hit up his hot roommate again.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you know, the buddy did him a favor for

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<v Speaker 1>a second. But yeah, I mean he didn't want a

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<v Speaker 1>date or so. No, I mean she's going to do

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<v Speaker 1>that just to spite him. Maybe maybe, but it'll still

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<v Speaker 1>be good for her. She may even play the long game,

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<v Speaker 1>like just marry her friend, marry his friend, go all

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<v Speaker 1>the way up to there just to rub it in

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<v Speaker 1>his face up on the altar. That's kind of weird

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<v Speaker 1>how specific you're thinking the ship sinking again. Get off

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<v Speaker 1>the ship, jeff I'm jumping overboard. Anyway. If you ever

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<v Speaker 1>want to get a second date update, you can always

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<v Speaker 1>email the show, we'll call the person who wasn't calling

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<v Speaker 1>you back