Speaker 1: Second date of date. Sometimes with a bad first date,
Speaker 1: there's one moment that you can look back on and
Speaker 1: say that was it, That was where I messed everything up? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: For me, each date has about fourteen of those. Is
Speaker 1: it when I did the full reenactment of the movie
Speaker 1: Garden State? Was that it's you? Or was it when
Speaker 1: my zipper got caught in the sushi conveyor belt? How
Speaker 1: I still don't you know too much? Well? One of
Speaker 1: our listeners says that she knows that she made a
Speaker 1: huge mistake in one moment and she's regretting it today.
Speaker 1: That's why she's asking for our help. Her name's Jessica. Jessica,
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Hey guys, Jica. Before you let
Speaker 1: us know, I just want to say, sometimes it's good
Speaker 1: to only have one giant bad thing go wrong, because
Speaker 1: at least went wrong. Yeah. Did you have a sushi
Speaker 1: conveyor belt incident too? There was no sushi involved. Good
Speaker 1: tragedy avoided. What happened with this guy what's his name?
Speaker 1: How I went out with Vince? Kay? Okay? And how
Speaker 1: do you know Vince? How'd you guys meet? It was
Speaker 1: online so it was kind of you know, like a
Speaker 1: first sort of blind date online and it was good.
Speaker 1: It was it was it was nice. We had a
Speaker 1: really good vibe and all right, well we'll play a song,
Speaker 1: we'll come back. We should hear more about it. Huh.
Speaker 1: I mean were you were you shocked that it was
Speaker 1: going that well? I totally was. I you know, I
Speaker 1: had kind of low expectations, but I don't know. He
Speaker 1: was just it was humble and cool and fun and
Speaker 1: we're having a good time. The problem is, so because
Speaker 1: I have these low expectations, I kind of sort of
Speaker 1: accidentally double booked myself that night, oh like with another
Speaker 1: date or with a party or something. No, it was
Speaker 1: another date. Oh girl, Sosa why too in the same night.
Speaker 1: I just figured we'd we'd eat and we're like, okay, thanks,
Speaker 1: that was fine by and then that would be it.
Speaker 1: Because that's kind of been my experience. Was Vince aware
Speaker 1: that you had two dates going on that night? He
Speaker 1: was not. He was nut And you know, looking back,
Speaker 1: I mean that's the moment like I should have canceled
Speaker 1: because I lost track of time and when I realized
Speaker 1: I was like twenty minutes away from the second date,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh shoot, So I had to
Speaker 1: wrap things up really fast. He was like, oh, we're done,
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, I'm so sorry, I gotta go.
Speaker 1: And I then mote him some money for the like
Speaker 1: half a bill, you know, because I didn't want it
Speaker 1: to be like thank good bye. Why did you actually
Speaker 1: leave before the bill came well, like it had just
Speaker 1: gotten there. Yeah, but like you didn't let him like
Speaker 1: walk you back to your car or anything like that. No,
Speaker 1: I had to run. Oh man, oh yeah, just as
Speaker 1: a guy having to sit there and watch your date
Speaker 1: like bolt on you yeah, before you were even finished,
Speaker 1: like totally paying the bill and then they veno you,
Speaker 1: which is feels it like business tripsactioning right. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I think he could tell that
Speaker 1: something was going on because he was asking me, are
Speaker 1: you okay? Like did I did I do something? Or
Speaker 1: oh you know when I was trying to tell no, no no, no,
Speaker 1: it's not you, You're great, this is good. I just
Speaker 1: becoming personal came up. I gotta I gotta run. I
Speaker 1: feel like I would almost prefer a girl to sneak
Speaker 1: out on me, yeah, rather than like collect herself frantically
Speaker 1: be like okay, sorry, I gotta go. By no, you
Speaker 1: just reschedule. You should have been honest and you said
Speaker 1: the luck I have something going on. I want to
Speaker 1: give you my full attention. You know, it's like a
Speaker 1: job interview. You don't want the person interviewing and being like, Okay,
Speaker 1: just tell me about yourself real quick. I gotta go,
Speaker 1: I gotta come. Yeah. Based on your profile picture and
Speaker 1: your interest, I had very very low expectations. I never
Speaker 1: ever thought this was gonna go like this. But yeah, sorry, by.
Speaker 1: And the thing is, I'm guessing the second date went
Speaker 1: terribly because we're not calling the second date for a
Speaker 1: second date update, we're calling the first dude. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: what happened with guy number two? Yeah? Guy number two
Speaker 1: was a no show? Oh? I bet you. I bet
Speaker 1: you felt I would feel so foolish at that point,
Speaker 1: Oh I did. I waited an hour at the bar
Speaker 1: for this guy, and I just felt like a bigots full.
Speaker 1: And so after my hour of waiting, I texted Vince
Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, so I cleared that up.
Speaker 1: If you're still out, I'd love to hang out some more,
Speaker 1: kind of trying to smooth it over, and he texted
Speaker 1: me back l ol. Oh yeah, yeah, oh he is
Speaker 1: a yeah, and that's all you guys have talked since. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I tried texting him one other time and he didn't respond,
Speaker 1: so I was just like, Okay, I'm gonna leave it alone.
Speaker 1: I don't want to pesture him, but I'm feeling really
Speaker 1: really bad about it, and I you know, I'm hoping
Speaker 1: it's something that I could kind of come back from.
Speaker 1: I don't know. If you tell him the truth, it
Speaker 1: makes you sound bad, like, hey, I'm only calling you
Speaker 1: back because this guy stood me up, I think. But
Speaker 1: you can explain it as like you made a mistake.
Speaker 1: He's dating, like he gets it, like it's hard, it's
Speaker 1: hard to make decisions. It always feels like the more
Speaker 1: you date, the more options you'll have or something. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't want to date to leave me
Speaker 1: for another day. Yeah, I mean nobody would. But do
Speaker 1: we have to tell him that part? No, that's why
Speaker 1: you don't Okay, Well, I think we're gonna go in
Speaker 1: planning to not tell him. Yes, But you know what,
Speaker 1: if it slips out, then it slips out. You do
Speaker 1: this every once in a while, somebody wants what they
Speaker 1: can't have. Yeah, and if he thinks that she's wanted
Speaker 1: by a lot of other people. That's not necessarily to
Speaker 1: play some games. I don't know. Maybe we should say
Speaker 1: it wasn't just one extra date. Maybe it was twenty
Speaker 1: extra dance and the other guys could match up to Vince.
Speaker 1: They were all rich and famous, that's right, and Vince
Speaker 1: was better than all of them. We're gonna play a song,
Speaker 1: we'll come back, we'll call Vince, and we'll try and
Speaker 1: get your second date up date. Okay, Jessica, all right,
Speaker 1: all right, hold on second date. You know, the saying
Speaker 1: is nice guys finished last. Yeah, but that's not always true.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they don't even get to finish dinner before the
Speaker 1: date ducks out on you for a hotter guy out.
Speaker 1: Sorry for the low glow there, Jessica, but that is
Speaker 1: what she did to a great dude that she was
Speaker 1: with named Vince. She had to leave early to go
Speaker 1: meet up with another guy, and what happened other guy
Speaker 1: know showed Yeah, any thing is Jeffrey. If you liked
Speaker 1: Vince Moore, you would have booked his date second. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, you wouldn't have put
Speaker 1: him first. She went in with those low expectations, so Jessica,
Speaker 1: I want you to know we are going to try
Speaker 1: our very best here, but even though we're enjoying ourselves,
Speaker 1: we have another phone call book with a possibly better
Speaker 1: hotter listener in ten minutes, so we're gonna trying to
Speaker 1: make this quick. Okay, all right, well really really please
Speaker 1: if we can not tell him about the other date, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: so why did you leave? Then, I mean we're going
Speaker 1: to have to tell him something family emergency, right like
Speaker 1: it made it a family emergency and we just met.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have to know those he fails. Yeah, okay, well,
Speaker 1: what's the detail? Grandpa's sick? Like she said she didn't
Speaker 1: have to know the details. He doesn't need to do
Speaker 1: what if he asks, like, oh my god, family emergency?
Speaker 1: Is everyone? Okay? What do we say business? Okay? Talk
Speaker 1: about my family? Yeah? All right, all right, we'll get defensive.
Speaker 1: We're aggressive, vague aggressive. All right, We're ready. We're gonna
Speaker 1: dial Vince's phone number, try and get your second date update.
Speaker 1: Here we go, Hello, Hey, is this Vince? This is him?
Speaker 1: Who's this Evans? My name is Jeff from a morning
Speaker 1: radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. What's
Speaker 1: up was awkward silence. I freaked out. Okay, we're all here,
Speaker 1: what's going on. Great, it's a segment, yea, it is
Speaker 1: an awkward segment that we do. It's called a second
Speaker 1: date update. We're calling on behalf of one of our
Speaker 1: listeners who went out on a date with you. Her
Speaker 1: name's Jessica. Oh yeah, Jessica. Okay, she really liked you really. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, it doesn't seem like she liked you because
Speaker 1: she left the date in such a hurry. But that's
Speaker 1: just one of the things that she does when she
Speaker 1: really likes the guy. Uh, she gets nervous and panics
Speaker 1: and leaves. It's a problem. Oh so, so she told
Speaker 1: you guys what happened. Yeah. Yeah, she give us a
Speaker 1: little recap of it, and she and she actually felt
Speaker 1: bad about it. Yeah, I mean, she she thought us
Speaker 1: she didn't want to have to leave, but she didn't
Speaker 1: really have a choice family emergency. Um okay, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I just kind of doubt that's really the case.
Speaker 1: I mean, she texted you later, she said, just to
Speaker 1: let you know that she was like still interested. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: she did. She did texting me later. She wanted to
Speaker 1: like me back up right, and we heard you texted
Speaker 1: back kind of snarky, just lol. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: said that because she really seemed like she had better
Speaker 1: things to do and she had somewhere else more important
Speaker 1: to be. Like, we were having a great time, we
Speaker 1: were eating, and she pretty much ended it in the
Speaker 1: middle of us eating and left. But that's not really
Speaker 1: fair to her because it could have been something that
Speaker 1: was totally out of her control. Oh really, So, I mean,
Speaker 1: you guys talk to her. So what did she say
Speaker 1: was out of her control? She know, she made a
Speaker 1: commitment that she had to follow through on. Yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: this sounds really general and vague, but yeah, do you
Speaker 1: have a problem with that? Yeahgan aggressive, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just mean it's it's kind of hard to believe
Speaker 1: considering the way that it sort of ended. Like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I just feel like, so you say that
Speaker 1: you think she's lying. Yeah, well, I mean, this is
Speaker 1: the thing, like, and you know, I'll be completely honest
Speaker 1: with you guys, but I've had some trust issues from
Speaker 1: the past, and everything when we were talking seemed pretty good,
Speaker 1: the way that everything sounded, and she seemed pretty straightforward,
Speaker 1: but my trust issues kind of came into play, and
Speaker 1: I just wanted to sort of see like where her
Speaker 1: head was at. So I actually had one of my
Speaker 1: closest friends, who is you know, he's basically a model
Speaker 1: when he is a model and looks, you know, really
Speaker 1: good looking dude, and so he actually matched with her,
Speaker 1: and I had asked him, like, you know, why don't
Speaker 1: you schedule sort of like a date for the same day.
Speaker 1: I know this is crazy, and you know, it was
Speaker 1: like putting it all out there, but this is kind
Speaker 1: of why I feel so just really disappointed. Second, you
Speaker 1: already knew about the other date that she had scheduled. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he reached out and she already had a date
Speaker 1: scheduled with me. Kid, dude, you set a trap for her. Well,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that, to be honest, she would be
Speaker 1: that thirsty to hop on it. Come on, if you
Speaker 1: had a model that matched with you and wanted to
Speaker 1: go out the same night, you're not telling me that
Speaker 1: you wouldn't book her. Still, I actually would have just
Speaker 1: canceled the other date and gone out with the models.
Speaker 1: Are you two dates? You wouldn't want to? Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: because then it kind of just felt like a pity date.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I don't like this. That's low, man.
Speaker 1: I just think that you're missing an opportunity, Like if
Speaker 1: you could give her some grace here, like you may
Speaker 1: actually find somebody who you really connect with. And like,
Speaker 1: the reason why I put the test out there was
Speaker 1: because she put on her profile. She's tired of the game,
Speaker 1: she's looking for something really meaningful, and I felt like
Speaker 1: we were aligning really well. I did, and that was
Speaker 1: why I was like before I even how serious are you?
Speaker 1: Or are you just another girl who puts it on
Speaker 1: her profile but really just wants to you know, I
Speaker 1: feel like maybe there is some truth to what she's
Speaker 1: saying there, because she clearly wants to connect with you,
Speaker 1: because she's actually on the other line listening this entire time.
Speaker 1: That doesn't help trust is shoes. She wants to talk
Speaker 1: to you right now. Man, Wait, she's listening to this
Speaker 1: whole thing. Yeah, don't you trust her now? She's right there? Jessica, Hi, awkward? Yeah,
Speaker 1: how's it going, Jessica? Not great? I feel really bad
Speaker 1: that I couldn't figure out like what I needed to
Speaker 1: do in that moment and make a better choice. But
Speaker 1: I feel really bad for you and those trust is
Speaker 1: shoes and the mind games, and that's wow, that's a lot.
Speaker 1: There's so much on both sides. Like I think you
Speaker 1: both just hang up before we even get into this.
Speaker 1: I'm just too much. I'm not embarrassed at all what
Speaker 1: I did. If anything, I feel like it gave me
Speaker 1: clarity on sort of what you're where you stand, on
Speaker 1: what you're looking for. And I mean, I get it,
Speaker 1: I get why you're you're feeling bad, but like at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, like you could have easily
Speaker 1: just not gone on that date, or you could have
Speaker 1: canceled it, whatever you chose to do that that's totally fine.
Speaker 1: You were set up. I know that's a little embarrassing,
Speaker 1: but I just like, you don't have to waste I
Speaker 1: don't think that you can gauge in one date like
Speaker 1: what someone's all about and if they're really serious, Like
Speaker 1: I owed you nothing. But I feel bad that I
Speaker 1: couldn't make the choice because I don't know. I wish
Speaker 1: i'd been more decisive. But I can be decisive right
Speaker 1: now and tell you that absolutely we don't need to
Speaker 1: fother with it because that's my games. I'm not interested.
Speaker 1: You're already cutting it off now, I can totally appreciate that,
Speaker 1: And to be honest, if it wasn't for the fact
Speaker 1: that you texted me back after you were stood up,
Speaker 1: asking to hang out again like that same night, I
Speaker 1: totally would have met up for a second date, because
Speaker 1: you know, i'd just feel a little about it. But
Speaker 1: the fact that you text me back right away just
Speaker 1: kind of showed like how it felt into you. It
Speaker 1: saynt I was into you. I mean I didn't want
Speaker 1: to be the one not showing up. I didn't want
Speaker 1: to be the no show because that sucks and I
Speaker 1: know what that feels like. So for whoever the other
Speaker 1: guy was, I didn't want to be that person. And
Speaker 1: when he didn't show up, I was relieved and I
Speaker 1: was like, cool, maybe Vince is still down, Maybe I
Speaker 1: can fix this. You guys are both making it. That's
Speaker 1: a valid point on Jessica's part. I can see where
Speaker 1: she's coming from, and she's probably obviously like like she said,
Speaker 1: not interested, which is totally fine. I honestly don't have
Speaker 1: any hard feelings toward her. If I saw Jessica in
Speaker 1: the street and we said hello and talked, great, you
Speaker 1: just sound a little aggressive, like I should just go
Speaker 1: out and like let your guards down a little bit. Jessica,
Speaker 1: are you not going to apologize to Vince for ditching
Speaker 1: out in the middle of the day, Well, the end
Speaker 1: of the date, paid for half the dinner, like it
Speaker 1: was the end of it. It's not like she'd left
Speaker 1: in the middle, like he should apologize for her. Did apologize,
Speaker 1: He was like, I'm sorry if I set you up
Speaker 1: for the trap, but you were the one that scheduled
Speaker 1: another date right after me. Oh, it's not a real
Speaker 1: enough none at all. He said, I'm proud of what
Speaker 1: I did. Was this male model friend up to anyway?
Speaker 1: I haven't heard of, Jessica apologize once. I don't feel
Speaker 1: like I need to apologize. I did not lie to him.
Speaker 1: I told him I needed to go. I didn't owe
Speaker 1: him anything. Yeah, and it's not your it's not your fault,
Speaker 1: Jessica that his friend was hotter. Yeah, and it wasn't
Speaker 1: about the friend being a hotter you guy, kitty. It
Speaker 1: sounds like we're not going to be able to get
Speaker 1: another date out of this for anybody, But did we
Speaker 1: at least learn an important life lesson from it all? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Online dating is a waste of time. Close. This show
Speaker 1: is a waste of time. But you know, thanks for
Speaker 1: playing Broke and Jeffrey in the morning. You know, sometimes
Speaker 1: in these second date updates, you can feel the ships
Speaker 1: start to sink and we can try and bail it
Speaker 1: out and try and save it, or sometimes there doesn't
Speaker 1: really matter. It's going full Titanic. This is gonna sink
Speaker 1: no matter what, and we just have to. Yeah, chalk
Speaker 1: it up to a bad day. That was definitely this
Speaker 1: second date update. There is no chance. But I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure she's going to hit up his hot roommate again.
Speaker 1: Oh you know, the buddy did him a favor for
Speaker 1: a second. But yeah, I mean he didn't want a
Speaker 1: date or so. No, I mean she's going to do
Speaker 1: that just to spite him. Maybe maybe, but it'll still
Speaker 1: be good for her. She may even play the long game,
Speaker 1: like just marry her friend, marry his friend, go all
Speaker 1: the way up to there just to rub it in
Speaker 1: his face up on the altar. That's kind of weird
Speaker 1: how specific you're thinking the ship sinking again. Get off
Speaker 1: the ship, jeff I'm jumping overboard. Anyway. If you ever
Speaker 1: want to get a second date update, you can always
Speaker 1: email the show, we'll call the person who wasn't calling
Speaker 1: you back