1 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: You made it. NFL Player podcast got me Logan Ryan 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: out here in l A. My first episode out West 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: super Bowl vibes um anticipating a great super Bowl here 4 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: and I got a great guest, a teammate of mind 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: of the New York Giants, a great up and coming player, 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: Darnay Holmes. And Darnay is somebody from the West Coast 7 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: from l A. So we're in your city. So how 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: do you feel me back in your city and the 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: Super Bowl to you know, being your city. Yeah, it 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: was exciting now as you know, that long flight from 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: New York City isn't the best thing, you know, But 12 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: outside of day, I'm just happy to be home, you know, 13 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: be around family, just to see the vinum of l A. 14 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: You know, it's not often you got Super Bowl team 15 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: in one of the hottest cities, you know, so just 16 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: filling the support, seeing the buses with the Go Rams on. 17 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: It excited to see how the show down gonna go 18 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: on Sunday. So what was it like, you know, being 19 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: from l A. You went to u C. L A 20 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: not having football in l A. Obviously the Rams were there. 21 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: Then they moved. You know, I don't know how old 22 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: you were who the St. Louis or whatnot. But what 23 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: was that like, you know for you to what was 24 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: football like for you growing up in l A. Yeah, 25 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: football like l A was USC versus Texas game at 26 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: the Roads bow. That's that's that's the exactly that's the 27 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: memory of l A until the Rams came along. But 28 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: pretty much USC was and pretty much I'm a US 29 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,279 Speaker 1: l A guy. I'm off for Chip Kelly, but Lincoln 30 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: Varley is doing something incredible over there right now at USC. 31 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: You know. So USC was pretty much the home base 32 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: of l A until the Rams came. You know. When 33 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: the Rams came and I think year one or year 34 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: two they it was in the Super Bowl gets the Patriots, 35 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: you know, and uh they pretty much the trademark of 36 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: the city as Randy's Donuts. They colored that blue for 37 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: the Rams. You know, so pretty much the city supporting 38 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: the l A Rams. And I'm support of l A 39 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: Rams as well, even on a giant I feel like 40 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: Reggie Like speaking of Reggie Bush, I think like the 41 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: greatest college football player, no doubt you know that, you know, 42 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: our generation like just going seeing like I literally have 43 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,279 Speaker 1: white shoelaces and my cleats still because of what Reggie 44 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: Bush and you and USC was doing. But I mean 45 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: you still have like, you know, I don't know what 46 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: cows at Kim Jordans on the early episode talking about cow. 47 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: You know, I don't really know where cow's at. But 48 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: you have b Jack doing a lot, you know, guys 49 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: like that. We all remember you know a cow and 50 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: and you sail a who's that for? You? Sail like, 51 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: who do you c l A greats? You can say 52 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: on the map, you said that greats. We got Miles Jack, 53 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: we got Kendricks, the Minnesota Boys and Bar you know 54 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: Anthony Bar, you know, and we got the Chosen Rolls. 55 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: And I still think he's a he's a top, top guy, 56 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: even though you know everybody got different journeys and how 57 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 1: life uh pans out for people. But I saw that 58 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: those guys, it's more basketball. If you said at the moment, 59 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: you know you got the Russell Rest books, you know, 60 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: you got the Hall of Fame, wouldn't you know? So 61 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: it's a culture. But the coach will really be across town, 62 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: as see guys. And so now you get driving to 63 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: New York, the New York Giant obviously go to the 64 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: East Coast. Media John. So what was it like, you know, 65 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: what was your process coming out? I mean, you obviously 66 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: play the star the nickel position, Um, you didn't play 67 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: a lot of that in college. So what was that 68 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: like in draft New York and kind of playing a 69 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: new position. Yeah, so pretty much my whole career I 70 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: played outside corner, you know. So once I went to 71 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, right already integrated me to nickel. You 72 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: know something, all right, I'm not too scared to cover 73 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: people in space, but it's a lot of space, so 74 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna try it out. You know that. As 75 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: I got to the league, started getting around guys like you, 76 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: Patrick Graham, how to start understanding like, maintain your leverage. 77 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: You don't have to do much. You're not playing one 78 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: on ones out there is maintain your leverage and win 79 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: your leverage. You know. So once I got around you 80 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: and start doing film study and all those things, for sure, 81 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: from year one, year or two, the game slowed down tremendously. 82 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: You know, going back to what you were saying out there, 83 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: when he was miked up and he was able to 84 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: call people routes. It was times where you know, the 85 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: game goes wasn't on the field, I was able to 86 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: see the formation and I called the route out. You know, 87 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: so just actually being a tune with what you taught 88 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: me play the treatment made this row in pretty much 89 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: the success I had this year for sure. Yeah, I 90 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, obviously you think your game. Obviously 91 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: you had an injury to shorten your season a little bit. 92 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: I think that affects us a lot on the giants 93 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: of losing your presence. But because you weren't making plays, 94 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: you made plays under the Chiefs game, obviously because of 95 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: a penalty that was the potential game ending pick, and 96 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: you started to make those plays. And like you said, 97 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like when I was at my 98 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: my peak and coverage, it comes down to preparation, Like 99 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: because you can't cover anybody backwards. I'm saying, the odds, 100 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: the odds, you're not gonna you're not gonna hit home 101 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: runs every time you're coming someone backwards, the odds that 102 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: are gonna get you half the time, just straight off 103 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: odds more than half. So you gotta try to make 104 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: that up with the preparation. And I feel like there's 105 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: only so many routes that people can run, So it's 106 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: like I'm not playing this guy like people think the 107 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: games all one on one, and I felt like my 108 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,239 Speaker 1: days in the slot, it was like, I'm not covering 109 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: Keenan now, and I'm not covering Michael Thomas, I'm not 110 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: covering Chris Godwin. I'm covering the routes because of course 111 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: they're a they're gonna do is run day routes and 112 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: its formations. You know what I'm saying. And I think 113 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: as I interviewed some great legends on here um and 114 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: I interview some great players Luke kick Lee, Rod Woodson, 115 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: guys on there that are Hall of famers, they're literally like, yeah, man, 116 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: we're playing the plays. There's only so much they can do. 117 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: And once you once you do that at the game, 118 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: slow down. So I'll call your route and you run 119 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: the rout Actually, now I'm in your head free like 120 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: I just may know my routes before I even do it. 121 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: So now I feel like that's how you get your advantage. 122 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: And the slot spatial awareness like it's different than outside 123 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: most of us, Like myself included in college was a 124 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: perimeter corner and that's all I played in the boundary 125 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: the X receiver or whatever, covering the top guy then 126 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: like go play the slot and and my you know, 127 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: my wife is you know a softball player. Our say 128 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: it's second, second, it's second and shortstop, like it's still 129 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: the nfield, but it's a whole different side of the game, 130 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So there's all there's so 131 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: much you can learn that you can continue to grow. 132 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: And I think there's players like Kenny Moore, Mike Hilton, 133 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 1: you know, guys are that are getting credit for it 134 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: now like people used to think like the third best 135 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: corner playing the slot, Like no, you need a guy 136 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: exactly that slot. So where do you see yourself kind 137 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: of going? And who are some guy that you're modeling 138 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: your game after and kind of look at us? So 139 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: pretty much lately before the season started, guys I was 140 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: looking at was Kenny Moore, Logan Ryan when he's with 141 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans, all his films and uh twenty four 142 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: from the Bills, two and four from the Bills with 143 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: his name, and also from the forty Niners, you know, 144 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: and pretty much those guys exactly. I feel like those 145 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: guys have the traits that I have, you know, able 146 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: to be disruptive from their blitz able to be able 147 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: to disguise, able to be savvy on the field, you know, 148 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: understanding that you know for st long you know too 149 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: may change, you know, understand those different things within the scheme. 150 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: You know. So when I was out there, the biggest 151 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: thing that I learned, and you probably had those principles 152 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: as you grew in the game, was hitting the field 153 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: with principles understanding like all, right, after each play, what 154 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: hash are we on? What's the down in distance? You know, 155 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: getting the line? You know, being from California, Pat your 156 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: Graham got on me. Yeah, he said, I had to 157 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: Callie cool in the manner of it. Have been times 158 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: on the field NFL game I wasn't a line. I'm 159 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: just talking to my man's telling what route might come, 160 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: and they snapped the ball, you know, and exactly, yes, 161 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: these things that I didn't see myself that from bird's 162 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: out of view, I was doing, you know. So really 163 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: the biggest thing for me last year is taking all 164 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: the constructive criticism and holding into it and really applying 165 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: and implemented new things that I know woul taking my 166 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: game to the next level. Yeah, I think like as 167 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: I learned this league on in your tent, the things 168 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: that make you a good player aren't cool, like getting 169 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: lined up quick that isn't always cool, being ready in 170 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: your stands. You can look chill in your in your 171 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: press stance and having ice slaggy look and a cool 172 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: no backband. You're not bending it kneedsy, you're just standing 173 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: straight up, feet straight together. But you don't get killed. 174 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: And I look a guy like Cooper Cup who's killing people, 175 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: and you're not doing stuff that's cool. He's getting open 176 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: and catching the ball, not even celebrating, and that's and 177 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: that's cool. And actually it's me seeing Joe Burrows quote 178 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: as we keep going back to the Super Bowl of 179 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: saying like, would I recommend a young athletes stop posting 180 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: the workouts working silence? Like that's the same thing. The 181 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: stuff that makes a good receivering a good dB aren't 182 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: always the cool stuff. Spend an extra time on the 183 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: little things of fundamentals is boring. Actually, you don't have 184 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: to practice ten thousand things is pretty simple, but the 185 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: master is always always a grind. I feel like I'm 186 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 1: in your ten I haven't mastered nothing, persatal, but I 187 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: feel like I can still get better at all of it, 188 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: and can get better tackling and covering and and making 189 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: impact plays. Yeah, you make something, but it's always about 190 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: the next snap, you know, in our positions. So I 191 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: feel like it's about being over trying to be cool 192 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: and try to try to get it right. Like that matters, 193 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: Like Karen, it matters. Being passionate about it matters, you 194 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Being cool, you make some plays, 195 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: you get some highlights. We ain't gonna get paid, you 196 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's the thing that, like you said, 197 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: coming out the league, coming out of college, you're you know, 198 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: it was callie cooling, and now you're figuring out like 199 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: what the next you know what the next steps are, 200 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: and now you're seeing going into year three, how much 201 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: turnover we have? Right, So, how do you feel about 202 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: a new coach, new defensive coordinator. You're going to your 203 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: third year, your second defensive scheme. You just learn a 204 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: new position last year, you feel like you just kind 205 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 1: of got good at it. Now that can completely change 206 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: in the new scheme. So how is that? What did 207 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: that teach you about the quick turnover of the NFL. 208 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: I feel like the biggest thing was just adapting, you know. Uh, 209 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: that's something I always lived to buy. It's just adapting 210 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: with the flow of things, you know, just being fluid, 211 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: you know, and understanding that it's a business, you know, 212 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: and you're not a control of who they bring in 213 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: as a coach or who they fired. You know, your 214 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: control of when they get you that playbook, understanding what 215 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: they which, what they want your row to be. So 216 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 1: I know for a fact, we're all excited in the 217 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: DV group chat. We're excited for it was to come, 218 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: and we definitely hype for for the season that's coming 219 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: up and the new things that they're gonna implement for us, 220 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: for us to really just flourish as a defense, because 221 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: we know we got those things. I think the one 222 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: thing that that our team has that might not have 223 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: shown and will show in time, is that our togetherness. Yeah. 224 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: You know, obviously in New York, obviously it hasn't been 225 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: winning as much as of late. People are frustrated. We're frustrated. 226 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: But I felt like you didn't see that splintering that 227 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: you might see when you think of a bad team. 228 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: You didn't see that fingerpoint. You didn't see the locker 229 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: room checked out. You saw dudes still trying to be great. 230 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: Still trying to work at it, obviously frustrating the result. 231 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: But the end of the day, if life don't go 232 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: your way, what do you do about that? You know 233 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: what I'm saying? How do you? How do you keep 234 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: moving through that storm or whatever? So I know you're 235 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: a man of your faith. I know you do a 236 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: lot of our breakdowns, you do a lot of our prayer. 237 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: As a young player, you kind of lead us in 238 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: your in your spirits. So tell me where that where 239 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: your faith, how that led you to where you are today? 240 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: And and kind of what that means of darning Holmes, 241 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: It means that you as a man. Yeah. For me, 242 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: it's it's a deep story of mine. You know. Uh, 243 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: I had to becoming a man of the household pretty early, 244 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: you know. And I always knew that I couldn't rely 245 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: on myself like in the day I could rely on 246 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: my own strength, There's no way, you know. And I 247 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: was introduced introduced to the man above pretty early, but 248 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: I wasn't really applying his wisdom. You know. Once I 249 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: started applying Guy's wisdom in his word, you know, I 250 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: started to move out of different frequency. I started to 251 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: want to be around people like you. You know, I 252 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: wanted to start put my private aside and acts logan 253 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: when you come to l A, can I be by 254 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: your side? You know? Can I learn things from me? 255 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: You know, and understanding that humidity and love is the 256 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: power of life, you know. So I feel like my 257 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: faith is something that constantly I'm instilling. You know. It's 258 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: never it's never a thing that's finished. There's always a 259 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: jaw that gotta feed day in and day out, you know. 260 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: And I've been trying to stay away from wrap past 261 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 1: after twelve o'clock, you know, try to listen to a 262 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 1: podcast in the morning, trying to's something that feeds my spirit, 263 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: you know, because in l A, no lots demons out here. 264 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: You know, it's different takes that will really suck your 265 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: spirit away. Energy, vampires, you know, and really just staying 266 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: out the mix and this being around a great crowd 267 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: and an environment has controled around people that wants to 268 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: be enlightening, around people who wants people to win, you know. 269 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: Just collectively surround myself around people who's genuine. Man, that's literally, 270 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: that's that's crazy. That's great advice. Honestly, I was gonna 271 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: ask you next what advice would you give to somebody 272 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: come out of high school, maybe a player at U 273 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: c l A right now, maybe daring their homes fan. 274 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: But I felt like, you give it just how you 275 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: walk and how you lead, And this is true, like 276 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: stuff I'm saying to him and asking him, it's true, 277 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: Like he really is one of the most spiritual people 278 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: I've been around. He really did come in as a rookie, 279 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 1: and a lot of people, especially as generation, they come 280 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: in and they went with stairs. And I'm not saying 281 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: they don't want to work, but they kind of they 282 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: want to. They want it now, they want to expect 283 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: And I feel like, you're willing to go on the journey. 284 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: You're willing to be coach, You're willing to be a 285 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: good teammate, you want to take your elves and you 286 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: still say encourage And I think sometimes I'm envious of that. 287 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, how's this How this man already got to 288 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: figure out? How's he still walking through on you know, hurt? 289 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: How to injury this year that ended your season after 290 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: your best game of your career? You know, how do 291 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: you feel about that? How do you feel about having 292 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 1: that feeling? Game is probably the best game you played 293 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: into end your season on a on an interception, So 294 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: go through that. That hit that was heard around the world. Yeah, 295 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: so pretty much. Uh it was a third down, you know, 296 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: and Logan told me every down, darn that, you don't 297 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: got to play press men, So I'm like, ah, it's 298 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: a stacking much told jab go down, man, go press 299 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: the point JV. I'm gonna playoff cash technique at six, 300 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: and they brought a motion and they came to a bunch. 301 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: So I knew from film study that if ones at 302 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: the butt, he may do it out and up. So 303 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: I was ready for some double move, but he stemmed 304 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: and got back better coming all right, better, he's about 305 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: to do some type of did so once he did 306 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: the dick, I'm like, if he throw this ball, God 307 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: is working in my favorite next to you know ball, 308 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 1: Come on, like just catch it. They just catch it, 309 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: called it. I got a person on my back, the receiver. 310 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: Then I see alignment coming and all I could do 311 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: was just turn my shoulder. Got hit. All y'all boys 312 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: turning like they're good play good player. You can see 313 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: in my face. I'm like, nah, I'm not feeling right, 314 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: all right, I'm not feeling right. Then we come to 315 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: the sideline, I'm feeling like my inside is hot walking around. 316 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: They like good stuff. I'm like, all right, I'm good man. 317 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to shake back. Then a jack he 318 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: went down for a little bit, and so I'm like, 319 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: all right, I'm not about to fold. You know, we 320 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: don't got no outside corner right now. I gotta go 321 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: play outside exactly, you know. So I have to held 322 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: it down. And then once halftime come, I'm running inside. 323 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I could barely breathe. This is not it, 324 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: you know, I want to I'm been land. They're like, yeah, 325 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: you got a fracture, first rib and a lung puncture. 326 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, hold on, hold on, hold on, how many 327 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: weeks is this? I didn't care about that. I'm like, 328 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: how many weeks is this? They're like, yeah, it's looking 329 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: like you I are for the rest of the season. 330 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, you're not the team doctor. I'm not hearing that. 331 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: I'm not hearing that. You know, So the family came 332 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: in that punctured lung and a and a fractured rib 333 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: that you got after an interception, and you're worried about 334 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: when you can come back and play when I come 335 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: back and play, and I was, I was. I was 336 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: irritated with with just the healing process, you know, because 337 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: I'm like a fracture rib I don't feel like that much, 338 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: you know. And they're like, you gotta understand like your 339 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: head was and resembled a car collision. I'm like, okay. 340 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: Then when they bought it to me in that term, 341 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: and now now he's I'm like, okay, now I could 342 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: sit down. I can sit down. You know. They're like, 343 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: we don't want you to have no contact because now 344 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: I could actually split if you do anything like that, 345 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: you know. So I'm like, I'm gonna sit it out there. 346 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: And as you see, I was still in the meeting rooms, 347 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: you know, still encouraging the guys and really just still 348 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: learning the game. I definitely felt like I learned a 349 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: lot just being around you guys for the past two years. 350 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: Like always, people always ask me, how do you feel 351 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: like you had the success you're able to have for 352 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: the first two years, And I always go back to 353 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: the ogs in my room, like you got a coach 354 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: that played in the league for ten years, you got 355 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: you who've been in the league about to hit ten, 356 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: and you got J. B. A. Doore and everybody is 357 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: free willingly wants to supply you with wisdom. You don't 358 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: come across people like that time. A lot of people 359 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: don't want to listen either. I think that's why you 360 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: hear so much. But you know, as we wrap this up, 361 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: you literally are are hearing like for the narrative of oh, 362 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: you know, spoiled athletes, millionaires complaining about this that you 363 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: got guys would have fractured lung, fractured rib, punctured lung. 364 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: I'm still trying to go back in the game. You 365 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: guys that are still trying to and your you know, 366 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: your season was credited. You could have walked away, went 367 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: to our army like, hey, my money's coming to me. 368 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: I'm good, let me go take my workers, take my 369 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: leave of accidents. But that's what I'm saying. When you 370 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: have guys that really obviously how we're doing is best 371 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: for your health and safety, but you've got guys that 372 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: really care about, you know, sacrificing for each other and 373 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: dedicated to the cause, I think when it means a lot, 374 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: it means a lot to me. I think about the 375 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: season all the time, and literally I have people like 376 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: close to me like, Yo, what are you stressing? You 377 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: got two beautiful kids, and you've got a wife, and 378 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: you got millions of dollars and you have better other 379 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: business ventures and a Walter pay Man of the Year, 380 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, but I still want to win though, 381 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 1: That's what dry. I still wake up early to go 382 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: win the game. Like I know, I'm more than a 383 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: football player, but I'm still competitive and I'm still I 384 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: still want to go and play. The years that I 385 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 1: want to play and and and have dictate the outcomes 386 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: of games. So it's still driving. That's why I know 387 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: I still want to play. I still want to play 388 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: for a long time because it wouldn't be bothering me 389 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: like this. We want to be talking about this this 390 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: may weeks after to see if they didn't affect us. 391 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: So I think the best is I had. I think 392 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: that keep moving onward and we're gonna see what's to 393 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: come and be ready for the challenge. But I think 394 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: it's guys like you. They're gonna be a big piece 395 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: of New York Giants. And I think guys like you 396 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: do give me a lot of hope in the next 397 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: generation of athletes. Um that still love the game, that 398 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: still want to be led, that still want to work, 399 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: that still want to be leaderships, that still care about 400 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: their faith and doing things the right way. The last 401 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: thing I say before we go is I remember, and 402 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: you can maybe test to a lesson I learned the league. 403 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: People ask me all the time, what's it like to 404 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: be in the league, Like, what is the lifestyle? Like 405 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: it's like the movies? Is it like entourages it like? 406 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, the league is whatever you wanted to be. Honestly, 407 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: if you work hard, you have some money and some 408 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: free of schedule obviously in the offseason to live the 409 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: life you want. What are you gonna do with that 410 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: type of power? So what do you what do you 411 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: do with that? What do you do with the freedom 412 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: you have right now? Some money in your pocket, obviously 413 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: a college degree or whatnot. What do you do with 414 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: that at that the age that you are young in 415 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: your twenties. Yeah, for me, I feel like I inherited 416 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: being a human of training, per type of person. You know. 417 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: Growing up, my mom was called the giver of the projects, 418 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: you know, So anybody who came to the projects in 419 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: Passing in California who seemed malnourished or didn't have, you know, 420 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: clothes on their back. Before you left their crib, you 421 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: got some food and you got some clothes, you know. 422 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: So as I grew up, I always was just given given, 423 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: you know. And now I have two youth organizations, one 424 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: and kinda bass is called the the Valley g Man 425 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: for the Giants. You know. We got the Passadena Giants, 426 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 1: you know, from my Pasadena hometown team. You know. So 427 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: I'm big on the philanthropy side of things, you know, 428 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: because I always felt like for in order for me 429 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: to get to what I had to get to, it 430 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: was it was a supply of people who helped me 431 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: get there, you know. And you you always go further 432 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: wing together, you go fast alone, but going fast and' 433 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: gonna take you nowhere, you know. So I'm big on 434 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: giving back, and that's something that I'm emphasizing on this year, 435 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: you know, actually being diligent on what my time is 436 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: and putting time to things that's gonna make me have 437 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: a great quality of life. You know. At the end 438 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: of the day, as you said, with the lump some 439 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: money we have, I could be up on a vacation 440 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: right now, you know, I could be doing X, Y 441 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: and Z. But at the end of the day, is 442 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: that take me to why I see my vision in 443 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: life to be, you know, being somebody who's able to 444 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: go to I want to be able to go throw 445 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: our countries in, create a school, build a school. Uh 446 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: have children that's not mine, but we're making sure that 447 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: they're getting to what their dream is, you know, providing 448 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: hope for the kids. And I feel like from why 449 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 1: I'm from Passing in California, it's a lot of hopelessness 450 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: right now, you know, it's it's not guidance right now, 451 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: you know. So when I got my foot on the door, 452 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: and also David Long who plays for l A. Rams 453 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: the nickel back twenty two, we've been giving back a lot, 454 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: you know, and that's something that's needed in this world, 455 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: is serving, you know. So, Uh, serving is a big 456 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: thing of mine. For sure. I appreciate your dog. He 457 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: might be a regular co host. You're doing a lot 458 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: of great things, man, and that just, uh, it makes 459 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: it matters to me that you know my legacy when 460 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: I play, I really care about when my teammates think, 461 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: my coaches, thinking, my family and honestly the fans too. 462 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,719 Speaker 1: But it really you know, to see you, you know 463 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: when you talk to say some things that I've done 464 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: for you and stuff that really makes it worth it, man, 465 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: because I think you gotta pass it on whatever gifts 466 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: I got or gems I learned along the way from 467 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: the O g s. It's my job to sleep the 468 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: pass on because it really is like a fraternity and brotherhood. 469 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: So I appreciate you pulling up, appreciate you for stop 470 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: and buy out here showing me your city, um tapping 471 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 1: in and and I think about to have you on 472 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: again because I just think you're dropping a lot of 473 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: wisdom for people. And you've got a long life ahead 474 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: of you. Man. I really I love your dog and 475 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: I really respect before were a man. I want to 476 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thank you Logan every time he talks. You know, 477 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: it's something that you gotta grasp upon it, you know. 478 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna lie. I never thought of being 479 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: a water pac in the manor world of tell Logan 480 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: got up there and was like, if I'm up here, 481 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: y'all could be up here. I don't know who that 482 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: hid in the giant facility, but that hit really deep. 483 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, bet, I'm a mass with log 484 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 1: but there's no that for sure. The way you move, 485 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: the way you carry yourself and just to deliver it 486 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: unless you have for everything you do the right ones 487 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: is taking notes for sure. Appreciate mm hmm. Thanks for 488 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: joining us on the NFL Players Podcast. Don't forget to 489 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: subscribe and follow at NFL Players podcast on Instagram for 490 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: the latest players stories and to connect with the NFL 491 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: Players community.