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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back George Nori with you. Rick McCallum one

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Speaker 2: of the founders of the Hollywood Ghost Hunters and as

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Speaker 2: the author of the award winning book Ghosts Believe In Me,

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Speaker 2: as well as his latest book, The Spirits Are Out

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Speaker 2: There and They Are Waiting for You. Rick has been

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Speaker 2: seen on Ghost Adventures, Home and Family and has done

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Speaker 2: many livestream paranormal investigations on the Dark Stone and Spirit Around.

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Speaker 2: He has worked in the stunt business for more than

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Speaker 2: forty years and has more than seventy five movie and

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Speaker 2: television credits. He spends every summer investigated the haunted castles

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Speaker 2: of Scotland, Ireland and England. And here he is on

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Speaker 2: Coast to Coast again, Rick, welcome back. Have you been I've.

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Speaker 3: Been great, George. Thank you for having me on.

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Speaker 2: We miss you. It's been a couple of years, I know, but.

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Speaker 3: I still listen to the show.

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Speaker 2: We still talk about you, my friend. You got together

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Speaker 2: with the folks and put together the Adventures with the

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Speaker 2: Hollywood Ghost Hunters. How far, how far back?

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Speaker 3: Well, that's got to be like twelve years ago. When

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Speaker 3: we first started that.

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Speaker 2: Did that with your friend Kane Hotter and Ara Hiloff, Right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for people who don't know, Caine Hodter played Jason

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Speaker 3: in four of the Friday the Thirteenth movies and Ari

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Speaker 3: Mahiloff played leather Face in the Texas Chainsaw Massacre number three.

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Speaker 3: So we've got kind of a creepy group just with us. Three.

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Speaker 2: Is the Hollywood ghost Hunter still active?

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Speaker 3: Well, just Kin and I just had a ghost on

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Speaker 3: two weeks ago. But it's getting harder because when we

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Speaker 3: first started, we were all working on the same movies.

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Speaker 3: Now it's Ari has moved. He lives in Pennsylvania, Kane lives,

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Speaker 3: you know, farther up, and we're not close. We used

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Speaker 3: to be within thirty miles, so if we wanted a

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Speaker 3: ghost on, we were on the bat. But we still

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Speaker 3: have plans to getting out there because we get offered

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Speaker 3: different things to go to go do. The problem being

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Speaker 3: is that Cain is always busy as an actor, so

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Speaker 3: you know, we have to take our shots when we

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Speaker 2: Are you still doing stunts or have you slowed down

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Speaker 2: a little bit?

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Speaker 3: No, I'm one hundred and sixteen years old. I've I've

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Speaker 3: gone to the ghost hunting and the writing and going

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Speaker 3: to Scotland as much as I can.

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Speaker 2: How did you folks come up with the concept of

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Speaker 2: the Hollywood ghost Hunters.

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Speaker 3: Well, I had always wanted to start a ghost hunting

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Speaker 3: group and I used to you know, go with some

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Speaker 3: people and if there was a noise, they went backwards.

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Speaker 3: That's not what I was looking for. And Cain and

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Speaker 3: I and ra we were all doing a movie at

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Speaker 3: Mansfield Prison in Ohio. And one night, about two in

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Speaker 3: the morning, Cain and I were walking back from the

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Speaker 3: movie set. It was like there was light coming in

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Speaker 3: I turned around to say something to Kane, and he's gone,

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Speaker 3: guy that I got to start the group with right there.

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Speaker 3: So that's pretty much right there in Mansfield Prison where

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Speaker 2: Isn't that where they put al Capone?

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Speaker 3: Now, al Capone was in Alcatraz for quite a while,

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Speaker 3: and the big thing for Mansfield is where that's where

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Speaker 2: Going on in Hollywood these days, rick.

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Speaker 3: In regards which way ghost hunting or just plain old

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Speaker 2: Old plan, old Hollywood. Is it going through a metamorphosis?

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, Oh yeah, it's I don't know. It's really

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Speaker 3: kind of losing the luster of Hollywood. Just to be

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Speaker 2: I'm hearing that. What's causing that.

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Speaker 3: Too many people trying to get famous, I think, and

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Speaker 3: It used to be the people that were doing the

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Speaker 2: Or have access to it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: When you were on the TV show Ghost Adventures. How

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Speaker 3: That started because the Ghost Adventures guys were at a

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Speaker 3: paranormal conference and Kane was there also as Jason, and

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Speaker 3: was talking and they said he just Toldly says, well,

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Speaker 2: And what has been for you in your stunt career?

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Speaker 2: The most dangerous stunt you've ever done, Boy.

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Speaker 3: That's a long list. I'll tell you the one that

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Speaker 3: I remembered the most. I was playing a werewolf for

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Speaker 3: the barrels. And yeah, that left the mark. But the

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Speaker 3: funniest part about that as I was walking out there

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Speaker 3: I said, let you know of it, and I jumped

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Speaker 2: I hear Tom Tom Cruise does his own stunts, doesn't he?

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Speaker 2: Have you ever been scared doing a stunt?

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Speaker 3: After I did it? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because when we were doing when when we were

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Speaker 3: And the the problem with that was that thing would

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Speaker 2: No, well, how did you end up doing ghost hunting

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Speaker 3: You know, George, it's an amazing thing. I've always had

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Speaker 2: What are some of the most haunted spots in the

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Speaker 3: Well, there's a Bulgoni Castle in Scotland is very hot

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Speaker 3: box that Thomas Edison invented, right, And I just sat

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Speaker 3: And I had been a lifeguard for four years, so

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Speaker 3: back around. But there's another story about that, if you'd

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Speaker 2: Sure, go for it.

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Speaker 3: The girl that was taking us, Mandy Fellows from Anubis.

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Speaker 3: She was telling us the story of both an Abbey

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Speaker 2: Would you say those areas wreck there are more haunted

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Speaker 2: Your book, Ghosts Believe In Me is about you, isn't that?

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Speaker 3: Basically? It's about different things that I've I've gone through

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Speaker 2: What compelled you? What compelled you to write it? Wrick?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I'd been on different shows right. Matter

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, yeah, it was my dad's house. My

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Speaker 3: By the way, a real loud one was right behind

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he knew about it, and.

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Speaker 3: He goes, ah, he goes, he gets everybody. And it

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Speaker 3: because it's the most haunted, by far place I've ever been.

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Speaker 2: What's the history of the guy who went rah?

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Speaker 3: We don't know, but according to what we'd learned, we

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable. You've come across a lot of stuff in your career, Rick, Well.

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Speaker 3: You know what it's. I look for it. You know,

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Speaker 3: sometimes you don't have to look for it, to just

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