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Speaker 2: What's going on? Y'allul This is the Beatdown Podcast, Week

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Speaker 2: two edition, and for the first time ever, we are

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Speaker 2: actually in person, believe it or not, that we're actually

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Speaker 2: at Commander's Park. The Commanders, they wouldn't necessarily the prettiest

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Speaker 2: thing in the world, but they got it done twenty

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Speaker 2: one to six over the New York Giants. They have

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Speaker 2: a much tougher test coming up on Thursday as they

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Speaker 2: played the Green Bay Packers. Jordan Love Micah Parson's gonna

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Speaker 2: be out there in lambeau Field. It's gonna be interesting.

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Speaker 2: Good statement win week two, and we're going to discuss

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Speaker 2: exactly how they can come away too. And oh, for

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Speaker 2: the first time since twenty twenty three, and with me

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Speaker 2: in person again, we have two people here. We have

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Speaker 2: Candy Waller, who is from Bowie TV. Can you want

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Speaker 2: to go in and say something?

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Speaker 3: Hey there, everybody. Good to be with you guys again.

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Speaker 2: This season, and we had Wandermera from the Spanish broadcast network.

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Speaker 4: Saluls s Loulis. How's it going, Hey, we got a

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Speaker 4: w That's all that matters.

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Speaker 2: You were absolutely right, that is all that matters. And

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Speaker 2: I just want to say we're in an undisclosed location.

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Speaker 2: We'll say where it is. But we are all together.

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Speaker 2: That's really all that matters here. And since this is

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Speaker 2: just the second edition of this season's beat Down, we'll

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Speaker 2: ahead and give you a little bit of reminded of

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Speaker 2: the rules again, I'm going to ask these people three

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Speaker 2: questions on an offense, one a defense, one more of

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Speaker 2: a general one to kind of get their opinions on things.

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Speaker 2: There will be points giving given out at the end

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Speaker 2: of each round. And as the host, even though you

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Speaker 2: know both these people are right next to me, I

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Speaker 2: feel a little weird about that. I want us had

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Speaker 2: a winner between these two people. But with all that said,

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Speaker 2: let's go and jump right into it, starting off with

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Speaker 2: Michael Parsons right, the new addition to the Packers, traded

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Speaker 2: away from the Dallas Cowboys. These guys know Michael Parsons

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Speaker 2: very well. He has been a tear for Washington for

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Speaker 2: East right double the Desacks in the last four seasons,

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Speaker 2: Pro Bowler, All Pro Defensive Rookie of the Year second

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Speaker 2: and the Commanders. While they are a little more familiar

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Speaker 2: with him. As dan Quinn said, he is just gonna

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Speaker 2: be a problem for everybody. So we have to start

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Speaker 2: out there and say how do they mitigate the Michael Parsons,

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Speaker 2: how they kind of manage him? And we'll start off

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm like, is there any chance they

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Speaker 5: switch up the lineup? And we're looking at each other,

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Speaker 5: and it's like, Laramie, you follow, you follow Michaeh because

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Speaker 5: I just keep thinking about you know, when we talked

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Speaker 5: you know people are gonna try him, right, They're not

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Speaker 5: gonna go you know, they're not gonna choose Laramie if

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Speaker 3: And Mike is someone who could just fly or one

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Speaker 5: Bit with Brian Burns with the Giants, right, you get

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Speaker 3: I think as much as they can just.

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Speaker 5: if it's even possible for Michael Parsons, I think it

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't think there's ever been a tackle

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Speaker 2: Now to your point, though, Laramie has played Michael the

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Speaker 2: What do they do to mitigate that matchup, how they

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Speaker 1: You know, that's the that's the million dollar question, right,

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Speaker 4: But there's one thing about Green Bay you.

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Speaker 1: kind of have to just, you know, count both sides.

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Speaker 1: John Bates is one of the best blockers in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's, hey.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna make Michael chase Bill or chase others, you

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Speaker 5: You know, Coach Quinn talked a lot about Michael Parsons speed,

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Speaker 3: We're gonna put our fastest guys on office against this.

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Speaker 5: Dude because maybe we can get everybody else, but this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think Dvo is one of those

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Speaker 2: guys who is definitely big enough right to handle to

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Speaker 2: my own Michael Parsons. And it's it's gonna be interesting

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Speaker 2: too because we have a coach who coached with Micah.

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Speaker 2: He has a very intimate knowledge of his skill set.

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Speaker 2: So one before we go, one of the next question

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm sure it's huge.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it's huge that he knows his his ins

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure he's talking up with Kingsbury about where

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Speaker 1: You'll probably see dan Quinn and Kingsbury discussing that this week.

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Speaker 2: Right, It's definitely one of those moments you want to

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Speaker 2: be like a fly on the wall, right and just

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Speaker 2: hear how these guys is talking ball up. I had

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Speaker 2: bit score update. Hmmm, I'll give Kenny the point here.

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Speaker 4: No, we're trying.

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Speaker 2: We're trying to move along as quick as we can

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Speaker 2: because we were Phil Mahes sof Candy gets the point,

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Speaker 2: other side of the ball here and talk about the

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Speaker 2: the Giants less than one hundred yards rushing really just

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Speaker 2: Bron Payne was just a monstrous sack and a half,

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Speaker 2: a couple of battle down passes. But this Packers offense

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Speaker 2: is much different, right, much more talented, much more diverse

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Speaker 2: How did this defensive line carry over that success into

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Speaker 2: week two one?

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Speaker 1: We'll start with definitely, what they need to do is

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Speaker 1: maintain discipline, cover the gaps. There was a lot of

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Speaker 4: He had seven tackles. He was pleaaning all game long.

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Speaker 1: So that means that the defensive line was doing their

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Speaker 1: You also have a special back with Jacob, so I'm

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Speaker 1: sure it's gonna be a much more bigger challenge. But definitely,

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Speaker 1: I think this D line was built for this this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely do think so you never, like, I

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Speaker 2: guess like Deron is like an all world talent, But

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Speaker 2: other than that, there's really not like that one guy

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Speaker 2: right that you have. You have vond Mill, but he's

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Speaker 2: no longer the player that he was. Still a great player,

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Speaker 2: of course, adorn Ar Throng good role player. You have

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Speaker 2: Von de gene Batist, good role player. A lot of guys,

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Speaker 2: I mean, Detrick Wise a good run setter. So we'll

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Speaker 2: also foot over there to the run games specifical with

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Speaker 2: Do you think that's going to be How do you

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Speaker 4: I think he's gonna continue, He's gonna continue that.

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Speaker 4: That's his job, that's what he wants to do.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned darn Payin. Before we move on, I want

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Speaker 5: I mean, the sky is the limit for this defensive line.

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Speaker 5: I think you know, and it's going to be imperative.

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Speaker 5: this defensive line is a serious, serious problem. Like I'm

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Speaker 5: almost I mean, hey, we know that the commander's winning

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Speaker 3: So we'll see.

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Speaker 5: But I think with Deron Pain and then the additional

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Speaker 3: And so it's this defense.

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Speaker 2: the Frankly Lulu stuff. So you're gonna tie it up

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Speaker 2: mc canny and I think at leastway with the shortest

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Speaker 2: Will's guys pick between who is more important to a

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna give it to den Payin. I'm gonna give

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Speaker 3: Being on the field.

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Speaker 5: Longer means more opportunities for Mincal Parsons.

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Speaker 5: But I want to say, Duran Pain in the effort

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Speaker 3: You see the defense for and special teams as well.

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Speaker 2: But Deron paysians I like that. I like that a lot.

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Speaker 2: One your response for me, I'm gonna have to.

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Speaker 1: Go with Ertz because ERTs it's gonna be a game

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Speaker 1: So you're gonna see Jaden leaves the pocket, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying dron Pain is not important, right, but

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, and this aspect of it, he's going

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Speaker 2: You know, It's it's crazy how Zach hurts, like how

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Speaker 2: Did too. I liked both of y'all's answers, and I think, man,

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Speaker 2: But I'm going to go with Candy here because let

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Speaker 2: How are you feeling about the victory?

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Speaker 5: This is good, This is like all the things and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know me too. It should be a very

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Speaker 2: But this has been cool. I loved the in person

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Speaker 2: be as hot a here. All right, be sure to rate, review,

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