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Speaker 1: Buried Church. I'm here at Star, California Cowboys training. Can't
Speaker 1: where Mike McCarthy's just wrapped up his pres cops. Church
Speaker 1: is back in Texas. All right, be Church. How are
Speaker 1: we feeling today? Man? Look it's still hot as hell
Speaker 1: down here in Dallas. Man, But look, man, we're all
Speaker 1: living through you right now. You're all here in California,
Speaker 1: got that ocean breeze coming in. You might have had
Speaker 1: to put a light jacket on today, but you got
Speaker 1: to witness the padded practices that the Cowboys have been had.
Speaker 1: And so look, man, we're living through you right now.
Speaker 1: You're on top of the hill. And what you got
Speaker 1: for is big dog. Yes, I did have to put
Speaker 1: on a light jacket, and yesterday when we interviewed Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: it got cold when I didn't have a jacket, man,
Speaker 1: so I was I was hurting, So not today, baby.
Speaker 1: I made sure I brought my light jacket today. Well,
Speaker 1: here's the thing about the padded practice, and I'll start
Speaker 1: with the most important thing, which was number four. We're
Speaker 1: sitting out here wondering where is Dak as they start
Speaker 1: going into the team drills, and Dak ended up leaving
Speaker 1: the football field and went with the trainers and says
Speaker 1: he's got some shoulder sword is here, so he's gonna
Speaker 1: take a couple of days off. And just looking at
Speaker 1: my note to Mike McCarthy said that it's not a
Speaker 1: high concern at all. He said that Dad didn't want
Speaker 1: to leave the practice field, but they McCarthy wanted him
Speaker 1: to go ahead and leave the field. And he said
Speaker 1: Dak will still do all the drill work today, and
Speaker 1: he said it's a good opportunity for them to catch
Speaker 1: a fatigue injury, so they're not worried about Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: long term. And when we spoke to Dak, he just said, hey,
Speaker 1: look I noticed a little He noted something two days ago,
Speaker 1: and then yesterday at the paddent practice he noticed the
Speaker 1: strain again and he just decided that he was going
Speaker 1: to be cost So for all Cowboy nation out there,
Speaker 1: and for people you know, basically were NFL fans across them,
Speaker 1: you know, the nation who want to know, hey, what's
Speaker 1: going on with the Cowboys in number four? They say
Speaker 1: he'll be fine and in a couple of days expecting
Speaker 1: to be out there now based on that, let me
Speaker 1: tell Church. I don't know if I could break it
Speaker 1: to you, just but just tell you the truth. Okay,
Speaker 1: double G did Dot look good? In fact, none of
Speaker 1: the Cowboy backups look good at all. Yesterday five picks
Speaker 1: in the padded practice. Okay, five fives. As a group
Speaker 1: they threw five. It was as a group. It was
Speaker 1: a group. Don't worry. Juanucci made sure he got he
Speaker 1: got something in there too. But I was sitting around
Speaker 1: with Nate Newton, former three times Super Bowl champion two
Speaker 1: days ago, and when we were looking at at the backups,
Speaker 1: I said, hey, man, Dack's backup is not all this roster.
Speaker 1: He's out on this roster, and yesterday I think just
Speaker 1: proved it one more time. Then unless these guys do
Speaker 1: something amazing in preseason, I think they're going to sit
Speaker 1: up here and possibly be looking Now, the good thing
Speaker 1: about the backups having an opportunity with DA being out
Speaker 1: the next few days, they're gonna get they're gonna get
Speaker 1: their shot. We'll see exactly what they can do. But yesterday, man,
Speaker 1: it was not good at all. And I'll also be fair,
Speaker 1: Mark Cooper has not been in practice. He has a
Speaker 1: practice camp started, and then Michael Gallup sat out because
Speaker 1: of his ankle, and Gallup will be out again today.
Speaker 1: So you didn't have you two really good receivers out there.
Speaker 1: But still five picks. He's just unaccepted. Five picks. That is,
Speaker 1: that's a lot of intercessions, especially as a group. And
Speaker 1: and look, I know, you know Garret Gilbert, he's more
Speaker 1: of a gamer, so I expect him to you know,
Speaker 1: he's gonna arrive when that Hall of Fame games and
Speaker 1: the spotlights on him. He's more of a gamer. So
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about the practice. He's gonna go out
Speaker 1: there and shine. But I wanted to ask you just
Speaker 1: knew he is. Do you see that as just a
Speaker 1: lack of talent or skill in the backup back position
Speaker 1: or do you see it as our defense communicating well,
Speaker 1: flying around to the ball and actually taking the ball away.
Speaker 1: Do you see that as a good sign for our
Speaker 1: defense or is it just man? These backups are that
Speaker 1: much below Dak Prescott's ability. I think if you have
Speaker 1: been one of those who's been sold on Dan Quinn
Speaker 1: coming in here and being mixed mister Pixett, I would say,
Speaker 1: so far, you should feel really good. These guys are communicating,
Speaker 1: they're talking. Mike McCarthy had spoken about the press competent
Speaker 1: and just wrapped up out here. I also believe that
Speaker 1: there's a pride factor here that maybe we haven't given
Speaker 1: enough credit to for the Cowboys. Then guys who were
Speaker 1: here on this team last year understood that that just
Speaker 1: wasn't acceptable. It wasn't good, and even more importantly, something
Speaker 1: we've all talked about here on the players on tracts
Speaker 1: by hotels dot com. Because there's competition, man, you know
Speaker 1: this was sacred Cows. Then guys are right here fighting
Speaker 1: for jobs. That hasn't always been the case here with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys the past few seasons, and I like that
Speaker 1: guys are gonna have to get up here and earn
Speaker 1: a spot. Yeah, I agree with you on a hundred sin.
Speaker 1: I mean, we talked about it all last season how
Speaker 1: it felt like this defense just didn't have any accountability.
Speaker 1: It was you know, I missed that player or somebody
Speaker 1: else will go get that play. And we've seen it
Speaker 1: even in our safety last year. Xavier was when he said, hey,
Speaker 1: you can't expect us to go one hundred miles an
Speaker 1: hour one hundred percent all the time. And that's that
Speaker 1: was just basically a microcosm of what this defense was.
Speaker 1: They were just you know, there weren't accountable and they
Speaker 1: were letting things slide. And we saw that on our
Speaker 1: play on the field. So I love what dan Quinn
Speaker 1: has done so far this offseason, bringing in competition on
Speaker 1: all three levels. I mean, we've seen the additions on
Speaker 1: the d tackle and the linebackers. We got Parsons, Cox,
Speaker 1: all those guys in there, and now we make it
Speaker 1: even more. It just breeds competition, and I've always been
Speaker 1: a believer that competition brings the best out of all
Speaker 1: these players. So hopefully, as things were finally starting to
Speaker 1: click for this defense, because they got the potential, they
Speaker 1: got the skill to be able to go out there
Speaker 1: and be a you know, mediocre even you know, like
Speaker 1: McRae would say, a top ten defense but we just
Speaker 1: got to see it out there. I think last year
Speaker 1: they were too confused out there, and hopefully they simplified
Speaker 1: the defense a little bit. And these guys are just
Speaker 1: flying from A to B and not just worrying about
Speaker 1: thinking too much out there. There's a buying factor, and
Speaker 1: the buying factor was not there. Okay, let's just be honest.
Speaker 1: The buying factor wasn't there. Bare you played in this
Speaker 1: league and guys have to believe in what the defense is,
Speaker 1: believing in the coordinator, you know, just have an overall belief.
Speaker 1: It was like, Hey, this coach is putting me in
Speaker 1: the best position and it's gonna help me win some games.
Speaker 1: I don't think that was the case of Mike Nolan.
Speaker 1: They at all last tear well. I will say this,
Speaker 1: do you believe that having that full offseason, having that
Speaker 1: OTA's Mini camp and out training camp and we're gonna
Speaker 1: have preseason game, do you think that also played a
Speaker 1: role in how these guys seem to be flying around
Speaker 1: right now? I do. I believe that, But I also
Speaker 1: I also believe that what do they say, the strength
Speaker 1: of the pack is with the leader, and the leader
Speaker 1: is Dan Quinn, who's coming out here with energy and
Speaker 1: coming out here with a sense of focus. And I
Speaker 1: so far I see that translator. I think that the
Speaker 1: way Mike Nolan kind of went about things is kind
Speaker 1: of how they looked. And yeah, so hitting your hands
Speaker 1: on these guys and helps. Mike McCarthy's admitted that last
Speaker 1: year they didn't really have a good program in place
Speaker 1: to deal with the pandemics as much as they could have.
Speaker 1: So I am I am cautiously optimistic of what I've
Speaker 1: seen so far. And I said cautiously because I've been
Speaker 1: fooled before, and because if Bush once said can't get
Speaker 1: food again, so can't get food again. We were both
Speaker 1: on that train. But I'm still about looking at the
Speaker 1: defensive tackles, see what they're doing here. And that's the
Speaker 1: benefit of having a guy like Nate Newt to practice.
Speaker 1: I was trying to go watch practice with people who
Speaker 1: are experienced the people who haven't understanding what's going on.
Speaker 1: And so they had talked about just looking at a
Speaker 1: couple of the offensive line here and a couple of
Speaker 1: defensive line. Number seventy five Pulso, a diggy looser from UCLA.
Speaker 1: That's a guy that then I'm gonna keep looking out
Speaker 1: for I keep looking out at big Ball hand in
Speaker 1: number ninety eight, and they took up from Memphis Yard
Speaker 1: and Nevin Alamore number ninety six. I think Gallimore is
Speaker 1: a guy that we've all talked about. It looks as
Speaker 1: though he's going to be able to have that second
Speaker 1: year improvement. And some of these guys in their second year,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have the ability to help this defense out.
Speaker 1: I look at trade is in his second year, and
Speaker 1: we'll be full, you know when you think about it too.
Speaker 1: Now these guys are and they're real first you know,
Speaker 1: pool training camp where they're you know, it's not the
Speaker 1: whole COVID protocol here, and I think we're seeing a
Speaker 1: couple of guys to step up. Candidate Maurice. Candidate has
Speaker 1: looked good at the corner spot. Okay, this is this
Speaker 1: is this is a player here. So we'll see said
Speaker 1: of constiously optimistic man, because I think sometimes as Cowboys
Speaker 1: media members, we want to find the positives and write
Speaker 1: about the positives and talk about the positives without always saying, hey, look,
Speaker 1: you know, who are they going against? What's going on here?
Speaker 1: Because as much as we're talking about these five picks
Speaker 1: and who's picking them off here? I mean Garrett Gilbert,
Speaker 1: Ben Denucci and Cooper Rush. You know, these guys are
Speaker 1: not expected to be playing on Sunday. And if they
Speaker 1: are playing for the Cowboys or anybody other NFL team
Speaker 1: on Sundays, it's probably not gonna be a good thing.
Speaker 1: This is true, This is true. All right. I want
Speaker 1: to get back to the to the hog molleys. I
Speaker 1: want to get back down to the giants and the trenches.
Speaker 1: I mean where you got the witness you know, the
Speaker 1: first pull full padded practices out there? Did the Big Three?
Speaker 1: And you know Zach Martin, Tyrn Smith and Lyar were
Speaker 1: they involved in any of these you know, defensive line,
Speaker 1: offensive line one on ones or battles in the trenches
Speaker 1: like that? How did they look and how did this
Speaker 1: defensive line look, you know, having them first full padded practice,
Speaker 1: because like we said, everybody looks good in shorts, but
Speaker 1: did they look as good as they did in shorts
Speaker 1: with these pads on? So when they started going into
Speaker 1: the individual drills, I stood next to Nate Newtman. That
Speaker 1: was great, what a great education. I mean, I wish
Speaker 1: everyone could have had that opportunity that I had to
Speaker 1: sit next to a Pro Bowl, three time NFL champion
Speaker 1: and see what he's watching for Collins look good. Chemis
Speaker 1: say that about it. Collins ended up looking very nice
Speaker 1: and the the hips fluid and everything. Huh, And that
Speaker 1: was what we looked about afterwards. Okay, hey, he just
Speaker 1: had to play, just made a hit. So how's he
Speaker 1: looking afterwards? So Collins is looking good man, and I
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a fan. Connor Williams, according to Nate,
Speaker 1: not not what he wants him to be. He still
Speaker 1: feels like he's too light. He also thinks that the
Speaker 1: center tyler beyond it's his light. So he's got some
Speaker 1: concerned about that that center guard. Combination of what he's
Speaker 1: seeing right there. The far knock kid, he looked like
Speaker 1: he's he's he's gonna have some ability here, so let's
Speaker 1: see what he can do. Randy Gregory was hard to
Speaker 1: block Randy Gregory. A player that I'm going to see
Speaker 1: more out of, especially from a blocking standpoint, is Jeremy Sprinkle.
Speaker 1: The tight end had a couple of nice blocks in
Speaker 1: these drills, event that they had them line up with
Speaker 1: the offensive line. A number eighty seven kid from Arkansas
Speaker 1: and I saw Sprinkle play in college. He ended up
Speaker 1: coming to Fort Worth from a game with TCU that
Speaker 1: they ended up winning in overtime, and I thought he
Speaker 1: was a nice player. He was up in Washington at
Speaker 1: it with JP Findlagon covers Watchington football team for NBC
Speaker 1: Sports up there, and he felt that, hey, he's not
Speaker 1: a real player. That the guy can't really you know,
Speaker 1: he couldn't help me in that Washington offense, and that
Speaker 1: washing it off because they really wanted their they wanted
Speaker 1: their tight ends to be more pass catches. I just
Speaker 1: believe that the Cowboys need to have a tight end
Speaker 1: who can block in this offense. Blake Jarwin's coming off
Speaker 1: the ACL, so you still have to kind of be
Speaker 1: wary of that. And then Dalton Schultz is not a blocker.
Speaker 1: Sean McKowen from Michigan. He's more of a blocker. But Sprinkle,
Speaker 1: you know, I think you need I think you need
Speaker 1: four tight ends. I really do. Because you think we're
Speaker 1: gonna carry four into the into the season. That's heavy
Speaker 1: at that position it is, But you know, Sprinkles also
Speaker 1: gonna have to play some special teams in church. I
Speaker 1: keep coming back into this you're talk about seventeen game
Speaker 1: season there, Okay, seventeen season. So so you're gonna give
Speaker 1: Jarwin and Schoultz are going to make the team. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we know this. Mcwen made it last year, so
Speaker 1: you could cut Sprinkle and then maybe get it back.
Speaker 1: But I can see them keeping four tight ends because
Speaker 1: you've got to account for the fact that Jarwin is
Speaker 1: coming off this injury. So if something happens the Jarwin,
Speaker 1: now you've got you know, you got Sholts, you got
Speaker 1: m Q. So I think Sprinkle can make the roster.
Speaker 1: Oh by the way, remember he's an Arkansas razor back.
Speaker 1: You know Jerry's got Josh even have they have a
Speaker 1: place in their hearts for those razorbacks. You got that
Speaker 1: connection man, And look the third and fourth tight and
Speaker 1: if we're able to keep that that many at that position,
Speaker 1: they've got to be heavy contributors on special teams, especially
Speaker 1: if they want to wear pads, if they want to
Speaker 1: get get into that forty six man with the pads
Speaker 1: on them on Sundays. They gotta contribute on special teams.
Speaker 1: So if I'm Sprinkle, if I'm the kid from Michigan,
Speaker 1: you know I gotta become best friends with with with Fossil,
Speaker 1: I gotta become best friends with Bones out there if
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, you know, try to make this team because
Speaker 1: i mean, we're stacked everywhere else. I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: stacked everywhere. So it's gonna be tough making that that
Speaker 1: position at that tight end. But we'll see, we'll see
Speaker 1: if they're able to get get down with Special teams.
Speaker 1: Stay with what you're saying right there, coming off of
Speaker 1: a cl you know you want jarwin nowhere near your
Speaker 1: special teams right there, so you know you're you're taking
Speaker 1: them off right there. But that's what we're talking about
Speaker 1: was Sprinkle being able to block. So Sprinkle is able
Speaker 1: to block here. So now you put that on your
Speaker 1: punt team protection. You put that on you know, you
Speaker 1: put that on point after, you know, So there's ways
Speaker 1: where you can watch this guy get some stuff in
Speaker 1: terms of Special teams that that's good. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to end up asking Fossil the next time
Speaker 1: they let us talk to the coordinators about what he's
Speaker 1: seeing from MQ and Sprinkle in terms of being Special
Speaker 1: Teams contributors and what they're going to do. But Hey, Church,
Speaker 1: you played this league. Guys know when they're coming here.
Speaker 1: They bought him into the rosters that they've got to
Speaker 1: be special teams contributors. If they're just not going to
Speaker 1: be able to get themselves out on the football field
Speaker 1: of loss is just not got gonna happen. Hey, let's
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Speaker 1: home in Dallas for far Starr, so indoors exactly. I
Speaker 1: hope you brother good. Yeah. So I wanted to touch
Speaker 1: on something that as a conversation that we got to
Speaker 1: meet with the meeting, so we get to talk to
Speaker 1: four players every day. And Terrell Bash was a guy
Speaker 1: that came over and one of the things I asked
Speaker 1: him to say, what's your fans expect? What a what
Speaker 1: are you? What are people gonna see? How do you
Speaker 1: this year? He said, Man, energy, I am here to
Speaker 1: bring energy. He's like, that is what we need, man,
Speaker 1: we need energy. And he said, I'm tired of losing.
Speaker 1: He said, I know the Cowboys had a losing season
Speaker 1: last year. Says, I don't see that two years ago.
Speaker 1: I said, man, I've never won. I want to win.
Speaker 1: And that's why it came here. And you know, he
Speaker 1: talked about having jukes that on the field of Dan
Speaker 1: Quinn's talked about that and and it just made me think,
Speaker 1: you know what, how many times did you see the
Speaker 1: Cowboys having have energy last year? And it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: this could be he could be bringing something that they need.
Speaker 1: Which is, you know, just kind of an attitude, just say,
Speaker 1: hey man, let's have some energy, let's come out here,
Speaker 1: be focused, and let's roll. And a guy who is
Speaker 1: tired of winning. I mean I'm always a fan of that.
Speaker 1: You know, it gets to a point in time in
Speaker 1: your career where you're like, you know what, dude, I'm
Speaker 1: tired taking these elves. I want some dubs. Yeah. And look, man,
Speaker 1: every team he needs at least one or two of
Speaker 1: those guys that just bring that passion, that bring that juice,
Speaker 1: that that energy to any certain situation. I mean, you
Speaker 1: gotta have it one. You gotta have it to get
Speaker 1: through camp. I mean those days are long, those weeks
Speaker 1: get long, and when you start getting padded practice on
Speaker 1: top of padded practice, it wears you down. But you
Speaker 1: gotta have that one or two guys that are just
Speaker 1: no matter what's going on. It could be the fifth
Speaker 1: straight day in pads, you could be down twenty in
Speaker 1: a game, it don't matter. They still bring that passion
Speaker 1: at juice and then get you excited. I mean, for us,
Speaker 1: it was a guy by the name of JJ Wilcox
Speaker 1: who AKA we called him Juice Man because he brought
Speaker 1: that juice no matter what time it was, he brought
Speaker 1: the juice. And Tyron Crawford in his younger years, he
Speaker 1: always was passionate about going hard in the paint, no
Speaker 1: matter what was going on, whatever, no matter what the
Speaker 1: coaches asked him to do. So you definitely need one
Speaker 1: of those guys on the field that keep you energetic,
Speaker 1: keep you getting, get you through practice, get you through
Speaker 1: a game. And now hopefully he can bring that passion
Speaker 1: because you're right, you know, I mean last year, all
Speaker 1: we really saw was, you know, guys with their heads down,
Speaker 1: you know, just communicating errors, guys looking at each other
Speaker 1: in the finger, and you don't have that when you
Speaker 1: got a passionate, when you got a passion about something,
Speaker 1: and some of those guys out there last year they
Speaker 1: just didn't have it. So hopefully Basham and a couple
Speaker 1: other new guys that we bring him here, bring that
Speaker 1: that rejuvenated juice back to this team, and especially on
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. Mike McCarty spoke about
Speaker 1: he'd rather have guys, you know, we're too much juice
Speaker 1: and being at a high level than the opposite way,
Speaker 1: and Basham talked about how he's enjoyed working with Dan Quinn.
Speaker 1: So you see Quinn doing a lot of work with
Speaker 1: the D line, especially in these individual jewels. He's in
Speaker 1: there working these guys, and Basham said, he really appreciated that.
Speaker 1: He likes that in the coach and he thinks that
Speaker 1: that kind of helped that coach, you know, get more
Speaker 1: out of them. And so then I said, you mean
Speaker 1: like Greg Williams last year, and they just looked at me.
Speaker 1: He just kind of looked at me side eyed, like yeah.
Speaker 1: And then there was another question that he spoke about,
Speaker 1: and I said, did Greg Williams do that with you
Speaker 1: last year? And then he just kind of looked at
Speaker 1: me again, like, man, I got nothing good to say
Speaker 1: about Greg Williams. You got fired by the Jets, and
Speaker 1: we all know what kind of year they had in
Speaker 1: New York. So he's looking yeah, and at laste he
Speaker 1: didn't just throw them all the way. He just kind
Speaker 1: of gave you the side out like yeah, at least
Speaker 1: he didn't, you know, go full force on them because
Speaker 1: they struggled. They struggled big time last year. And and
Speaker 1: like you said, man, like we we both were saying
Speaker 1: we need some passion, we need some juice, especially on
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the bar. I mean, it's last
Speaker 1: year was just I mean, we were all witnessed to it.
Speaker 1: It just wasn't what we wanted to put on the field.
Speaker 1: The product just wasn't there. So you know, we need
Speaker 1: this juice. Hopefully he can bring it in and inject
Speaker 1: us with it going off through the season. Church you
Speaker 1: understand this because you got to play for the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: you played for the Jaguars. They speak about Dan Quinn
Speaker 1: in a way we never heard them speak about Mike
Speaker 1: Nolan last year. And look, I know it's early, but
Speaker 1: to me, I think that matters when you've got a
Speaker 1: buy in factor. I'm sorry, these are professional athletes, man,
Speaker 1: these are college kids where you can just browbeat him
Speaker 1: and force him to do what you wanted to prons.
Speaker 1: We've got to buy into this thing, and so far
Speaker 1: they bought in. I hadn't seen it be heavy season
Speaker 1: game or anything, but dog going it. It just beats
Speaker 1: last year. And the bar was so low last year
Speaker 1: that dog going it hunt, you know, buying to this guy.
Speaker 1: Hassled juice, come out here with some energy. You gotta
Speaker 1: see the way these guys are reacting when somebody gets
Speaker 1: to pick six, or somebody makes the stops. They're they're
Speaker 1: going through these drills this defense. Man, these guys are
Speaker 1: all out here rooting for each other, dog going it. Man.
Speaker 1: We didn't see it last year. Man, I didn't see
Speaker 1: that at these training can't practices last year. Okay, I
Speaker 1: didn't see that kind of attitude. Man, we did. We
Speaker 1: didn't see it at all. I mean you see it
Speaker 1: when when when um what's his name Kazy got to
Speaker 1: pick a couple of days ago. I mean, the whole
Speaker 1: sidelines erupted, defense erupted. I mean you see these guys
Speaker 1: buying into it. You know, they're they're they're being accountable
Speaker 1: for each other. Somebody makes a mistake, they're not just
Speaker 1: you know, sweeping it under the rug or or saying, oh,
Speaker 1: these coaches can't coach. I mean, they're keeping each other accountable.
Speaker 1: And that goes huge. That goes huge, especially on the
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. When you believe in what
Speaker 1: your coach is preaching. Like when we played with Marinelli,
Speaker 1: we believe that no matter what scrap claude, you gotta
Speaker 1: punch that ball out. You gotta find some way to
Speaker 1: get the ball out. When you believe that it's it's
Speaker 1: gonna become second nature. And hopefully that becomes second nature
Speaker 1: that these guys are gonna hustle to the ball, take
Speaker 1: the ball away, hit and run with a passion that
Speaker 1: we didn't see last year. And if we're able to
Speaker 1: do that, I mean, I don't know about top ten,
Speaker 1: but we could definitely creep into the middle of the
Speaker 1: pack as a defense overall, and we need that, especially
Speaker 1: with this exclosive offense that we had. If the offense
Speaker 1: does its job and puts thirty points on the board
Speaker 1: and they've got the middle of the road defense, then
Speaker 1: they should be in a good place. I believe that
Speaker 1: based on if you do that, if you're scoring thirty
Speaker 1: thirty two points a game and your defense is his
Speaker 1: middle of the road, if if it's fifteen, sixteen, fourteen
Speaker 1: in that area, then I think they can have a
Speaker 1: winning season. So we'll see, because I'm still I still
Speaker 1: got to see the D line, Baby, The D line
Speaker 1: has to be better. Okay, it has to be better. Yes.
Speaker 1: Let me bring up another thing that I saw at
Speaker 1: training camp practice, and this was in the after practice,
Speaker 1: getting a chance to talk to Mali Cooker, the safety
Speaker 1: they brought in who missed last season with the achilles.
Speaker 1: He said, look at my production when help. So if
Speaker 1: you're a Cowboy fan, this is about health. If Malik
Speaker 1: Hooker is healthy, then Malik Hooker can help. If he's not,
Speaker 1: then you know, then they've they're taking a one year flyer.
Speaker 1: So I think of it in terms of, all, right,
Speaker 1: here's Kasey, here's Hooker, you take him, some flyers on
Speaker 1: some guys obviously on one year deals. They've got something
Speaker 1: to prove, and we'll just see through competition what happens.
Speaker 1: I don't think that you have to cut one or
Speaker 1: the other. That we've got j Ron Curse out here.
Speaker 1: I got to pay a little bit more attention to him,
Speaker 1: so we'll see. I just love the fact that there's
Speaker 1: competition here, man, And so because it's competition and guys
Speaker 1: are out here having to play for, having to eat,
Speaker 1: you know, and seeing for they supper, then I think
Speaker 1: that's a good deal. Man. I think it's great that
Speaker 1: you know, there's competition amongst every level on the defensive
Speaker 1: side of the ball. But NEI let me ask you,
Speaker 1: you think that if they if let's just say, for
Speaker 1: some reason, let's just say Hooker beats out Kazy and
Speaker 1: he's a starting free safety. You wouldn't want, if you're
Speaker 1: a hooker, you wouldn't want, you know, them to say, Okay,
Speaker 1: I you won this job, Casey. You know, we gotta
Speaker 1: we gotta let you go. We'll see you. I mean,
Speaker 1: we'll give you an opportunity to land with somewhere else,
Speaker 1: but we gotta let you go. That way, Hooker is
Speaker 1: not always looking over his shoulder. Man, if if this
Speaker 1: doesn't go right, if this doesn't go wrong, my leash
Speaker 1: is short. They're gonna they're gonna pull the trigger, pull
Speaker 1: the trigger quick on me. Uh. You know, it's great
Speaker 1: to have depth, but you would want your gut, your guy,
Speaker 1: whoever wins that starting battle, to be able to play
Speaker 1: freely knowing that if he doesn't mess up at all,
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna come snack his job right back from him. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I get the depth piece of it,
Speaker 1: But do you think we got room to keep both church.
Speaker 1: You came off the Achilles injury, and that's what that's
Speaker 1: what both guys are dealing with him. I don't know
Speaker 1: that you can necessarily say, hey, this particular player is
Speaker 1: fine because you can reinjure that thing, or in the
Speaker 1: cases of both guys, they could they could get injured again.
Speaker 1: They've got injury history. So I just don't think you
Speaker 1: can say, all right, Hooker's here, Casey's gone, Casey's here,
Speaker 1: Hooker's I think you go with both guys in a
Speaker 1: seventeen game season. I ain't going to emphasize that so
Speaker 1: much here on the player side, try to by hotels
Speaker 1: dot com. Seventeen game season. It's uncharted, we haven't seen
Speaker 1: it before. It's tough enough to get guys through sixteen games,
Speaker 1: so now you're adding a game, and then the cows
Speaker 1: are gonna through that stretching. One believes it's maybe nine
Speaker 1: games on the road. Then they're gonna have to play here.
Speaker 1: And you start looking at the end of December where
Speaker 1: you're you're basically four your last six games against NFC's teams,
Speaker 1: you know, so the division title most like it's gonna
Speaker 1: be on the line in these last few games. And
Speaker 1: I just don't think you could sit around here and
Speaker 1: think about cutting cutting guys like this if you feel
Speaker 1: that they have a role and it can help you play,
Speaker 1: um play some football games. I just I'm a fan
Speaker 1: of having multiple guys there and then along the way,
Speaker 1: you know, they'll tell you got you. Football players have
Speaker 1: a way of telling you what you need to do
Speaker 1: through that performance. Yes, this is true. I mean this
Speaker 1: is true in that and and it just kind of
Speaker 1: worries me as a defense overall. I mean, we gotta
Speaker 1: go ahead at some level either whether it be d line,
Speaker 1: linebacker's secondary, we gotta go heavy at a certain position somewhere.
Speaker 1: But it just scares me overall that we're fielding such
Speaker 1: a you know, kind of a wounded defense. I mean,
Speaker 1: like you said, we got Hooker coming off a huge injury.
Speaker 1: Kz Kean O'Neil. Let me look at our linebackers last year.
Speaker 1: We're all beat up. So I mean it's it's it's
Speaker 1: we're definitely fielding an injury team and adding another game
Speaker 1: seventeen games and I think after our Bay Week, I
Speaker 1: don't know if we play a nine straight or eleven straight.
Speaker 1: It's something that's long and it's gonna it's definitely gonna
Speaker 1: gonna wear and tear on our players out there. So
Speaker 1: we definitely need our depth, But I'm just not sure
Speaker 1: if they're gonna go heavy at the safety, linebacker or
Speaker 1: d line position. Obviously, health is gonna dictate what happens here.
Speaker 1: I mean, so much of this is about health and
Speaker 1: what happens it camp. I mean, right now we're looking
Speaker 1: at Gallup dealing with the knee she said, the ankle
Speaker 1: injury from two days ago. And we see Cooper still
Speaker 1: trying to get where he needs to be. Tristan Hill,
Speaker 1: it's still out there working room Brown on the side.
Speaker 1: He's on the publists, not ready to go. So I
Speaker 1: just think that how they set this team will be
Speaker 1: determined so much by the health and who else was
Speaker 1: that I'm looking at here today? Tyrant Okay, Tyrant is
Speaker 1: not practicing today according to the head coach, Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 1: because of elbow tendonites. So that's that's something to think
Speaker 1: about as you started looking at your football team. He
Speaker 1: brought up Tarrant Still by the way, and he said,
Speaker 1: look at my notes here from the McCarthy press conference.
Speaker 1: He said that Still is a great, great example of
Speaker 1: a guy who's in his second year and the weight
Speaker 1: room work and what he went through there that he
Speaker 1: likes what he's seen there. So a lot of positives
Speaker 1: about some of the guys on the roster, the backup
Speaker 1: position right now. But this is this is health man.
Speaker 1: You've seen it. You saw the way last year, and
Speaker 1: that's this lead Who's health and a shoot go ahead.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say the only thing I think that
Speaker 1: good that came out of last year with all these injuries,
Speaker 1: as it gave a chance, like the steals, the nights,
Speaker 1: those guys of the world to get a lot of
Speaker 1: reps and get game get actual game time experience out there.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was definitely a hoshposh of old lineman
Speaker 1: that we used to throw in there. We were playing
Speaker 1: fantasy football, maxing and matching and moving people here and there.
Speaker 1: But it gave those guys vital experience out there that
Speaker 1: they're gonna need. I mean, especially if they're going for
Speaker 1: a backup role. Seeing as though those big three, you know, Tyring,
Speaker 1: Zach Mardin, and Lyle Collins have all had injury history
Speaker 1: or injury history problems or whatever. So for me, I
Speaker 1: gave them a lot of good game experience. And you
Speaker 1: know they can they can vital backup roles for us
Speaker 1: going throughout the season. And we'll see, And this is
Speaker 1: a good question. I got to start to dive into,
Speaker 1: is how are they going to have the practice rosters
Speaker 1: this year? Because last year you're able to keep some
Speaker 1: veterans on the practice roster and they increased. So how
Speaker 1: how did the Cowboys go about that? So let's say,
Speaker 1: for instance, they only keep three tight ends and you
Speaker 1: cut a sprinkle, So are you able to possibly put
Speaker 1: sprinkle on your practice your practice squads? So these are
Speaker 1: some interesting things about what what will the Cowboys be
Speaker 1: able to do? How will the league have their rules
Speaker 1: this year coming out of you're still dealing where's still
Speaker 1: in the pandemic? Okay, we're still in the pandemic? So
Speaker 1: how will the NFL go about that? So I'm going
Speaker 1: to be really interesting. I think that so much will
Speaker 1: dictate what the Cowboys do with certain players. And I
Speaker 1: think you're right, where do you go heavy at? And
Speaker 1: this is a great, great, great question if we just
Speaker 1: don't know yet, the players are going to tell us
Speaker 1: and camp what we see in the preseason games. Guys,
Speaker 1: guys are going to cut themselves or guys are going
Speaker 1: to help themselves. They do it all the time, especially
Speaker 1: now with this football team. And I'm pretty excited about that. Hey, Barry.
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Speaker 1: Today's out handling Dallas Cowboys camps. So Church, Um, it
Speaker 1: is Dak Prescott's birthday today, so uh yeah, yeas birthday?
Speaker 1: Yeh yeah so so Ezekiel Elliot is going to talk
Speaker 1: to the media at one thirty uh specific time out here,
Speaker 1: and Zeke said Dak brought him a diamond bracelet for
Speaker 1: his birthday, So I want to know what zeke by
Speaker 1: Dak for his birthday since they're operating on that kind
Speaker 1: of level like that. Oh, I mean when you when
Speaker 1: you got the funds like that, I mean, the sky's
Speaker 1: the limit. I mean, man, you getting you getting diving.
Speaker 1: I know they're real. I know those diamonds was real.
Speaker 1: So m imagine what he's gonna get him. Maybe maybe
Speaker 1: a lamboat, maybe the Ferrari, who knows, who knows. Man,
Speaker 1: that's a different type of money right there. What is
Speaker 1: the most expensive thing you ever bought for a teammate
Speaker 1: to be? Oh? Man, I got I got about a
Speaker 1: was it a two hundred and fifty dollars gift card?
Speaker 1: The best buy? I mean I was cheap out here
Speaker 1: in these streets. Man, I wasn't doing none of that
Speaker 1: when we was. When I was in the locker room
Speaker 1: and he's all the offensive line and giving each other
Speaker 1: these Louis bags, these er Mans bags and guys getting
Speaker 1: leather jackets and all that stuff. If you people hate
Speaker 1: it being picked with me because I was letting them
Speaker 1: off the rip. No, hey, man, you're gonna get this
Speaker 1: best buy card, some type of gift cards somewhere, and
Speaker 1: it ain't gonna be it ain't gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: of money. So hey, if you get if you picked me,
Speaker 1: sorry for you. And the people used to hate it
Speaker 1: because all everybody else was getting all these elaborate gifts
Speaker 1: and man, I'm too cheap out here. I gotta keep
Speaker 1: all the duckets new. We've gotta keep them all. Okay,
Speaker 1: So when you in Jacksonville, how did it go there? Oh?
Speaker 1: Was the same thing. Cats was getting all types of
Speaker 1: bags and suits and glasses and diamond this diamond that
Speaker 1: these roll lexus and this, and I got gifted with
Speaker 1: a few great things. But I'm telling you you was
Speaker 1: hitting this good best back car. You might get a
Speaker 1: you know, nor Strumps for five hund I'm sorry, And
Speaker 1: like you said, it was a Jacksonville it. Cats was like, man,
Speaker 1: you just got paid and that's just how you gonna
Speaker 1: do us. I'm like, man, look, I don't know what
Speaker 1: to tell you. I don't sure telling you. Sure you know? Okay,
Speaker 1: that's fine. I wanna tell you right now. You got it.
Speaker 1: You had a bag in Jacksonville. Okay, when you were
Speaker 1: the Cowboys you're a free agent, cab. But you got Jacksonville. Man,
Speaker 1: you had to come out here. Okay, So let me
Speaker 1: ask this. Did you ever do anything for the team,
Speaker 1: for instance, rented a food truck or something like that
Speaker 1: for guys out to pract Did you ever do anything
Speaker 1: like that? Nah? And not like that, I mean the
Speaker 1: most I did. I mean we took all the dvs
Speaker 1: out to dinner a couple of times, you know, I
Speaker 1: take the tab But other than that, man, it was
Speaker 1: it was nothing, nothing elaborate. But I've been a part
Speaker 1: of some elaborate, elaborate gifts and dinners, and the tabs
Speaker 1: were being in the thirties and fifty thousands. And but
Speaker 1: for me, no, I wasn't doing all that. I wasn't
Speaker 1: doing that, man, I was. I was sticking to the basis,
Speaker 1: the base, best Buy or North Shoms. I mean, that
Speaker 1: was all you was gonna get out of church man.
Speaker 1: Look at you. Guard Guard that check man, guard that check.
Speaker 1: All right? All right. I did ask Dak Prescott yesterday
Speaker 1: about someone Biles and you know, one of the greatest,
Speaker 1: if not the greatest United States gymnast ever, deciding to
Speaker 1: sit out the rest of the Tokyo games to deal
Speaker 1: with with mental health. And Dak Prescott has been open
Speaker 1: about dealing with mental health and what he went through
Speaker 1: with COVID and what he went through with the suit
Speaker 1: of suit side of his brother, and he said he's
Speaker 1: some more supported someone Biles. He says, none of us
Speaker 1: know what she's going through. And he said he was
Speaker 1: happy that she decided to take care of herself. So
Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty pretty good. I tweeted it
Speaker 1: out on on my Twitter page at NEWI Scrubs. It's
Speaker 1: n e w Y Scruggs. It's n e w Y Scruggs.
Speaker 1: As Dak Prescott yesterday spoke spoke to her. And by
Speaker 1: the way, at the Olympics, Suntia Lee, eighteen year old
Speaker 1: from Minnesota, an American. She won the all around competition.
Speaker 1: And one of the things I was I was happy
Speaker 1: to see it. I was happy to see an American
Speaker 1: capture the fifth straight Olympic all around gold medal that competition.
Speaker 1: But I was just happy. And he s goes the
Speaker 1: show why you gotta keep working even if somebody was
Speaker 1: better in front of you, even if somebody you just
Speaker 1: got to keep working because you never know when your
Speaker 1: opportunity is going to come and you had to take
Speaker 1: advantage of your opportunity. And that's what Lee did at
Speaker 1: eighteen years old. She's an Olympic champion and hopefully she
Speaker 1: gets everything that comes along with being the Olympic champion
Speaker 1: that we saw her some own bios and Gabby Douglas
Speaker 1: and the s Nastia Lucan and Carly Patterson. So good,
Speaker 1: good for miss League. I mean you're a thousand percent
Speaker 1: right on that. I may talk about, you know, being
Speaker 1: prepared for when your opportunity arises. I mean like it
Speaker 1: was thrown. It wasn't like she knew this was going
Speaker 1: to happen. It was thrown and and you know, some
Speaker 1: own bills. She had to walk away for her mental issues,
Speaker 1: which no one can blame her for that. No one
Speaker 1: knows the amount of pressure that she had to go under.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe only you know Michael Phelps or someone
Speaker 1: like that who was that celebrated as an Olympic athlete.
Speaker 1: But you know Lee or um, yeah, last name is Lee, right, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know that that thing was thrown upon her
Speaker 1: and she was able to step up, you know, prepared
Speaker 1: and won the all around goal. I mean it was.
Speaker 1: It was just an immense accomplishment. So proud of her,
Speaker 1: so proud of the Olympic team. Like you said, that's
Speaker 1: the fifth straight all around goal the US has taken home.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's an incredible accomplishment in its home, right.
Speaker 1: I go back to watching some old biles on the
Speaker 1: US national team when they came to Dickie's Arena Fort
Speaker 1: Worth for the national championships, and I remember sitting there
Speaker 1: with my daughters and I said, Wow, I feel sorry
Speaker 1: for these other one ladies because they're all they're all
Speaker 1: trying to get till they're all going for second place,
Speaker 1: because you know, some old Biles is going to win.
Speaker 1: And I think about what I saw and what I
Speaker 1: thought about, and then here was the opportunity that comes
Speaker 1: from Sineche Lee to win the gold medal because she
Speaker 1: stayed prepared, she stayed right. And I think that's a
Speaker 1: great lesson, not just for any athlete, for anyone in life.
Speaker 1: Just keep preparing and if there's somebody better than you, find,
Speaker 1: keep competing, keep doing what you do because you never
Speaker 1: know when your time is going to come. And I
Speaker 1: just have so much respect for that. In church, I
Speaker 1: go back to what you talked about when you were
Speaker 1: a free agent here. All right, it wasn't it wasn't
Speaker 1: stacked in your direction, but you kept competing and you
Speaker 1: ended up making the football team and you ended up
Speaker 1: having the career that you wanted. But you had to
Speaker 1: be prepared and you had to make sure you were
Speaker 1: handling your business to be ready for that. You had
Speaker 1: to because you never know what was going to happen.
Speaker 1: I mean I was taking third string reps basically all
Speaker 1: throughout the whole camp, getting third string reps in preseason games.
Speaker 1: And then Pat Watkins got hurt for a little bit
Speaker 1: and he missed one of the games, and you miss
Speaker 1: about three or four practices, and you know that was
Speaker 1: my opportunity to run with the twos. We started playing dimes,
Speaker 1: so I got a little bit of runs or runs
Speaker 1: with the ones. As a dime man, you never know
Speaker 1: when your opportunity to arises. You just gotta make sure
Speaker 1: that you're ready for that situation. And just like Lee
Speaker 1: and myself and countless others, when your situation rise, you
Speaker 1: gotta be ready for it. And she was ready for it,
Speaker 1: took advantage of it, and the same thing goes out
Speaker 1: to all these young cowboys in there that's going into
Speaker 1: their first training camp or their second or third. If
Speaker 1: that situation arises where you get an opportunity to run
Speaker 1: with the ones, run with the twos, you gotta take
Speaker 1: advantage of it. You gotta do something each and every
Speaker 1: day to get the coach's attention, whether that be one
Speaker 1: batted down pass, or you made a great communication and
Speaker 1: had put him in the right defense, or you just
Speaker 1: didn't make a mistake all day. You gotta have one
Speaker 1: thing in mind that the coaches go back to that
Speaker 1: film and say, oh man, he did pretty good today.
Speaker 1: Let's see what he can do further on. So if
Speaker 1: you can do that mentality, I mean, it'll become easy.
Speaker 1: It'll become easy for you. Piggyback up, which you said.
Speaker 1: Twenty sixteen. Right out here, Oxnard, California, Jamal Showers is
Speaker 1: splitting reps with Dak Prescott is a thirteen quarterback guy,
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore's the number two quarterback, and Tony Romo is
Speaker 1: the established starter. And we all know what happened there.
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott ends up becoming the number one guy back
Speaker 1: up to Joemo because Kellen Moore ended up getting a
Speaker 1: legendary which ended his career. Then we saw Tony in
Speaker 1: that preseason game against Seattle get hurt. Dak Prescott starts
Speaker 1: the season that eight no and you know the rest,
Speaker 1: and becomes rookie of here. So that goes back to
Speaker 1: just taking advantage of your opportunity and despite whatever else
Speaker 1: is happening in front of you or who's better than you,
Speaker 1: just keep working. So anyway, man once again happy for
Speaker 1: Lee and we hope that some own Biles can find
Speaker 1: that the piece she needs mentally to be the whole
Speaker 1: person and the best person for her church. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get out here. I want to catch some of this
Speaker 1: practice here, want to catch out some of these big
Speaker 1: uglies and what they're gonna do. We go back next time,
Speaker 1: we got the players lounge, and I'm gonna be very
Speaker 1: interested to see how your man double g Garrett Gilbert
Speaker 1: bounces back today because Dak's a gamer, won't be practicing
Speaker 1: for the next few days. Does he'd make the strates
Speaker 1: he needs to be And if you're cooper rushed, do
Speaker 1: you find a way to go ahead and try and
Speaker 1: push your ahead of Garret Gilbert? And how much can
Speaker 1: Benda Nucci and prou So. These quarterbacks have an opportunity.
Speaker 1: Need to show these coaches what they can do, or
Speaker 1: Will McClay is gonna be on the phone bringing in
Speaker 1: somebody so that now this going over that back of
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks just right there. Man, Hey, good stuff. Appreciate you. Hey,
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