1 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. 2 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. We have a bunch 3 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: of stories to get into with you guys today, So 4 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: let's get started with the latest of an arrest of 5 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: Home Improvement star Zachary ty Bryan, an ongoing investigation into 6 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: a high school coach who went missing when he was 7 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: being investigated for child pornography, some news into the legalization 8 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: of substances that are used well that used to be 9 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 1: considered illegal drugs, and we'll finish off with an Italian 10 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: man who was costplaying his dead mother. All that and 11 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: more on today's episode. All right, so this kid from 12 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: Home Improvement? Did you you didn't really watch that show? Right? 13 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: I don't like Tim He like makes me uncomfortable. 14 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: Why I say? 15 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: The only thing I really like him in is Christmas 16 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: with the Cranks. But like even that movie, he's so 17 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: I don't know something about it makes me uncomfortable. 18 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: What about like the Santa Claus. 19 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like, I tolerate the Christmas movies, but I 20 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: just don't like him that much. So, like, I definitely 21 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 2: was gonna watch a whole sitcom with. 22 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: Him in it. He reminds me of our friend Fell 23 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: so much, like they have the same as that kind 24 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: of humor. I don't know, I like it, but anyway, 25 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: I didn't. I just didn't like love that show. But 26 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: I feel like I saw it a couple you know 27 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: what I mean, I've seen it. I just it just 28 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: like wasn't my scene. But I mean, you see this 29 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: sometimes with kid actors that they just they can't get 30 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: their shit together. This guy said that it was very 31 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: even though he was on that show for eight years, 32 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: it was like really hard for him to get a 33 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: job after that. 34 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I call it child actor syndrome. It's like 35 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: when they go crazy when they're adults. 36 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: And it but it doesn't happen to all of them, 37 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: which is interesting. 38 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: It doesn't happen to all of them, but I would 39 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: say it happens to most. 40 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: Like it's funny when you see I'm just I just 41 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: wish they would do some kind of study or something 42 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: to see people like Miley Cyrus, you know, obviously super 43 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: successful now, Jodie Foster, like people that were doing it 44 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: since they were kids and just never really got sucked 45 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: into that crap. 46 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: Miley Cyrus had issues for a while and she didn't 47 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: have a Barrymore. She didn't have well Drew Barrymore did. 48 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: Miley Cyrus didn't have anything like that. She had like 49 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: a mental I don't want to say a mental breakdown. 50 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: She had a situation from the transition to Disney. 51 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: To being an adult. Yeah, but it wasn't it wasn't 52 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: like drugs and shit like that. She wasn't like strung 53 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: out like a like Amanda bind style or anything like that. 54 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: She wasn't like a man of Bindes. 55 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 2: But like, I'm not gonna sit here and be like, oh, 56 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: she'd have any problems with I mean, she definitely had 57 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: a couple year period where she was like doing crazy 58 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: shit and people were used to seeing her as like 59 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 2: this Disney Channel star and then she was just trying 60 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: to be a regular twenty year old. 61 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: And it's a hard I understand what this. 62 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: Guy is saying that he had a hard time getting 63 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 2: roles after that, because it's like, Hey, you're either gonna 64 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: get type cast and play the same character the rest 65 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 2: of your life or people are like, oh, you're too 66 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: big to be on the show or whatever, and then 67 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 2: you're just like totally screwed. Sometimes getting a serious is 68 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 2: a curse. And the other kid that was in that show, 69 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: what was his name? Remember he played like the Lion 70 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: King the voice for one of the Lion King kids 71 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 2: sim on Home Improvement. 72 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: Who's the who's the Simba, right, the little one? The baby? 73 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: He I think he did, Jonnifer, Jonnifer. 74 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: I listen, I didn't want to it's all the time 75 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: on the show. 76 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: So I think I think one of the kids was 77 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: the original voice for Simba in the first Lion King movie. Okay, 78 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: so Jonathan Taylor Thomas or something. Okay, it's like something 79 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: like that. So what I'm saying is his brother on 80 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: the show seemed to get a little bit more successful 81 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: than him, which also probably messed him up a little 82 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: bit because they had kind of the same job. And 83 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: then you know, the one is I don't know if 84 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: that kid I feel like he because he was like cute, 85 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: wasn't he on like the teen beat magazines and all that. Well, 86 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: this is totally off topic from what it's not. We're 87 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: trying to We're trying to establish a base of why 88 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: this guy looks like he now possibly does myth That's 89 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: all I'm That's That's where I'm trying to make that okay. 90 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 2: So the point of talking about this today is that 91 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: Zachary ty Briant was arrested for the sixth time in 92 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 2: the last five years, and it's like the charges are 93 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: just all over the place. So this particular arrest was 94 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: because he violated his prior domestic violence conviction. So then 95 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 2: earlier this year in January, he was arrested for domestic 96 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 2: violence in South Carolina, where they kept saying the woman 97 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 2: in this case, which seems to be the woman he's with, 98 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 2: they have children together, so he allegedly or not I 99 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 2: guess allegedly he was convicted. He choked her, punched her 100 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: in the face multiple times, so they're saying they think 101 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: this woman is his fiance. She was also just arrested 102 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 2: with him in facing five charges for driving under the 103 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 2: influence shock her. So then going back to twenty twenty four, 104 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 2: he was arrested twice on dui charges. Twenty twenty three, 105 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 2: charged with fourth degree fellon the assault, third degree robbery, 106 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: and mistermeanor harassment. And then in twenty twenty arrested for 107 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 2: allegedly strangling his then girlfriend at an Oregon home. He 108 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 2: pled guilty in that case. The two domestic violence misdemeanor 109 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 2: charges and was sentenced to thirty six months of probation. 110 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 2: Why is this guy just getting Probation's like megalooser, So 111 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: we know from if you guys didn't listen to the 112 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: interview that we did with Jim Schmidt, who is Gabby 113 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 2: Petito's dad a couple of weeks ago. 114 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: One of the biggest signs that someone might end up 115 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: strangling someone to death is when they do it multiple 116 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: times throughout the relationship or in other relationships. So this 117 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: guy has gotten arrested at least twice for strangling someone, 118 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: So who knows how many times he's actually done it, right, 119 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: So don't be surprised if this pops up again and 120 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: he ends up killing someone because of it, because he 121 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,679 Speaker 1: keeps getting released and he's going back to the same woman, 122 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:46,679 Speaker 1: especially so she's a victim of domestic abuse. But what's 123 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: striking too is you look at so he has a 124 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: mugshot from twenty twenty where when you look at him, 125 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, it looks like him how he was 126 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: in the show. He looks a little bit fatter, like 127 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: he just looks like a like how he would look 128 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: as an aging adult. Fast forward to this January that 129 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: you know, almost next January, but January twenty five. His mugshot, 130 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: he looks like what you would see when that that 131 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: that website was really famous that was called Faces of Meth. 132 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: Like he has that look of that you would see 133 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: commonly in those kinds of mugshots where you would see 134 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: it before and after and see what the drugs do 135 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: to a person. So I don't know if he's done it, 136 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: not confirmed, but I'd be shocked if he wasn't. I 137 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: mean that, And just like this crazy lifestyle that he's 138 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: leaving living and everything like that, I mean, it's it's 139 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: honestly a shame. The worst part of it is like 140 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: I don't give a shit about this guy, Like he's 141 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: got little kids. Apparently they witnessed him choking their mother. 142 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: Like it's just terrible. Why isn't he in jail? 143 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: And also another major red flag always is people smiling 144 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: in their mugshots. Getting arrested should be like not something 145 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: you're happy about. It should be one of the worst 146 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: parts of your life. 147 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: Maybe he's maybe he was just trying to get a 148 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:17,679 Speaker 1: new acting gig or something. 149 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: I don't know, he knew his mugshot. I guess was 150 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: gonna land on TMC, so it's cheaper than getting new 151 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: head shots. 152 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: It's free. I don't know. 153 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 2: This is so fucked up. His probation set the end 154 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 2: in October of next year. I don't know if this 155 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: violation is going to prolong that or maybe give him 156 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 2: jail time. Personally, I feel like, based on all his offenses, 157 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 2: I think he should maybe be in jail for some time. 158 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like he's taking any of his arrests seriously, 159 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 2: and he's just gonna keep doing bad things, you know 160 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: What's interesting. 161 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: Like I was talking about this with the girls recently 162 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: because we were talking about Stranger Things and how they're 163 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: not doing any more of the show, and I was 164 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: explaining this to her with characters that are children that 165 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: sometimes they get how they get type casted into these 166 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: roles that they played, And I mean, it's kind of 167 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: the same when you think about Stranger Things and stuff, 168 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: Like think about seeing these kids and other movies, it's 169 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: just gonna or shows or anything. It's just gonna be 170 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: very hard to like picture them as someone else. 171 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 2: Well, the only time I've ever seen anyone from Stranger 172 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 2: Things being something else was Steve Harrington was in the 173 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 2: most recent season of Fargo last year and he was 174 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 2: playing John Ham's son, and I think he was a cop. 175 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: In the show. But like it was it weird? 176 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was weird because I'm used to seeing him 177 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 2: and I think that's the problem some of these actors 178 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: face because they're on this show that's super famous. Think 179 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: about Daniel Radcliffe and Harry Potter. He had such a 180 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: hard time getting work after Harry Potter because he was 181 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 2: Harry Potter like, and everybody's like, all anybody's gonna see 182 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: is Harry Potter. And then he ends up doing the 183 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 2: scandalous play where I believe he was naked. And then 184 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,599 Speaker 2: I saw him later in this movie where he was 185 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: playing his skiphead and it was crazy because I'm like, who. 186 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: Wants to see him naked? He's so that's. 187 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 2: Harry Potter playing a skinhead, you know. 188 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well I was explaining that to them with like 189 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: Macaulay Culkin was a good example because I was like 190 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: that kid, Like when that movie came out, it was 191 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: just like he's Kevin from home alone, like I don't. 192 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: And what's interesting is that his brother has gone on 193 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: to become a more serious actor. 194 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I was just in Succession, which was huge. 195 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 2: He was just in a movie like, yeah, he. 196 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: Wins awards, like I saw him an award show or 197 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: something like that, and you know it's just and he's 198 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: in home alone too, you know what I mean. But 199 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: he's only he's only in it for a couple minutes. 200 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: He's Fuller's Yeah, but. 201 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: It's just like it's just like a it's just a 202 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: shame because kit it could go really well. It's the 203 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: same with Millie Bobby Brown. Like I don't know, maybe 204 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: for a woman it might be a little bit easier 205 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: because she could really change the way she looks a 206 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: lot more. But I think about like Mike, for example, 207 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: he's just so his face is just so like stranger things, 208 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 209 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: I feel like if those kids are gonna go on 210 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: to do other work, they're only gonna be able to 211 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 2: be in horror esque things. 212 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: I think. I don't think they're gonna have any shortage 213 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: of work or I mean, like that show could do 214 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: spin offs and this and that. There's a lot of stuff. 215 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: I don't think that it would go bad. It's just 216 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: like a thing that you have to think about with kids, 217 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: and it's. 218 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 2: Just weird because it happens to I guess it does 219 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: happen to kids the most because I'm thinking of other 220 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: actors that are in big show. I mean, Tom john 221 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: Ham's on the top of my mind this morning because 222 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 2: of another show we listened to, Discovering something with him. 223 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: But I think of like he was in Madman, which 224 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 2: was this powerhouse show. He was casting this very particular 225 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 2: type of character, but then he's gone on to do 226 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: a million other things, and I'm like living in a 227 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: world where I'm like, yes, that is Don Draper, but 228 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 2: that is also the guy that's in Fargo playing Steve 229 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 2: Harrington's dad, and the guy that's in The Morning Show, 230 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: you know, Like I'm not just thinking of him only 231 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 2: as one being well. 232 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: I mean, and like think of someone like Harrison Ford, 233 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: for example, Like he's Indiana Jones, right, those movies were 234 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: awesome and very popular, but he also did a lot 235 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: of awesome movies, so he's he's just like one of 236 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 1: those people that can get away with it. 237 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 2: And maybe it depends on the acting ability, Like yeah, 238 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 2: you're acting is only so for that one character and 239 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: you can't go beyond that. 240 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: Scope and like I mean home talking about home improvement 241 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: and stuff. It was like, you know, you know when 242 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: you watch like Young Sheldon, my favorite show, and all 243 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 1: of the people really play a role in it that 244 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: they're like, well, you you never really watched it, right, 245 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: I've seen it. 246 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 2: It's not like I've never seen it, but I feel 247 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: like it show like Home Improvement is like so benign 248 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 2: that it's like it wouldn't affect him that way. You 249 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 2: would think, Yeah, like I don't know, Like I think 250 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: like Young Sheldon, for example, all the kids in the 251 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 2: show and the adults, like every person plays a role, 252 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 2: and like if they weren't there, you'd be like you'd 253 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 2: feel like something was missing. Like right, it's just like 254 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: because they all have like such personalities that that are 255 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 2: funny in different kinds of ways. Right, But but in 256 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 2: Home Improvement, it was kind of like the real relationship 257 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: and the real like reason people watched it was because 258 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: of the mom and the dad's interaction and even. 259 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: The mom with the al gay or the dad with 260 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: the al guy. Like the kids were just kind of 261 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: like they're like they were boring. 262 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 2: Is it possible he just wasn't a good actor. 263 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why he wasn't getting blur. I was never like, 264 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: oh my god like that. It like when when I 265 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: watched Young Sheldon, Like the show's about Sheldon, really, I mean, 266 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: he's probably the main focus of the show, but it's 267 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: like the older brother's freaking hilarious and cute and charming 268 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 1: and like, you know what i mean. Like when I 269 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: think of Home Improvement, I'm just kind of like, eh, 270 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: you know what i mean, Like it's not there's just 271 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: like not the it's not really anything to them. 272 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 2: I do think it's more particular with children, but it 273 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 2: also has to do with being on these massive hit 274 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: shows like Stranger Things like Harry Potter, right, like Home 275 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 2: Improvements so irrelevant in some sense, Like it was a 276 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 2: very successful show and it had a good run and 277 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 2: it had big actors on it. But even Tim Allen's 278 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 2: not stuck in that he's the star of that show. 279 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: He's in a million things. Yeah, exactly, That's what I'm saying. 280 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 2: So I just think it's a bad extent use of 281 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 2: why his life didn't go the way he wanted. 282 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: But I just think too though, with k it's just 283 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure with kids because they get like 284 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: they start off very young having a job. You know, 285 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: like most most people, they they they get their first 286 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: job when they're a teenager and they work at a 287 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: pizza place or they waitress or they coffee shop, and 288 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: then they like move up and they move up and 289 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: they have a bunch of jobs before they actually like 290 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: settle on their career and get their job and stuff 291 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: like that. Right, they're getting like their job after six 292 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: years of college and ten years of working when they're eight, right, 293 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: So it's like if they don't go up from there, 294 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: then they're only going down, which is they'll be down 295 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: like to our level, you know what I mean. And 296 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: they're so they're starting so high that like if they 297 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: don't continue to keep jobs making that money, anything's going 298 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: to make them feel like a loser, you know. Yeah, 299 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: And I get and it's not good. That's why it's 300 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a chance you take that. People. 301 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: I mean like Millie Bobby Brown and like people love her. 302 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: They think she's like she's the star of this show 303 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: and she made all this money and stuff. But like 304 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: what if that's all that really happens for her? Is 305 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: that gonna mess with her mind? 306 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: That's what I'm here, So let's talk about her for 307 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 2: a minute, because, like I think right now, she's taking 308 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 2: a break from acting because they she just got married, 309 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 2: she just adopted a baby, right, So I think actually, 310 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 2: if she separates herself for a couple of years from 311 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 2: Stranger Things, she might be able to go on and 312 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 2: have a very successful acting career because it's separating the 313 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: timeframe and she's not as fresh in everybody's minds. It's like, oh, 314 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 2: that's eleven from Stranger Things. Yeah, and she'll and and 315 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: she'll grow and mature and look different. I mean she's 316 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 2: she's still at that like kid stage. I know that 317 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 2: she's twenty one or whatever. But she's also changed her 318 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 2: last name to bun Jovi, well yoviy whatever the real 319 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 2: pronunciation is. 320 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: Listen, he's cute. 321 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 2: He is cute. 322 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: He's very cute and and like good. I don't think that, 323 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: Like I don't know why anybody thinks there's anything wrong 324 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: with that. Like she loves the guy she wants to. 325 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 2: I I changed my last say say about her labor either, 326 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: and she it's not like a totally irrelevant name. 327 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: I mean, hello, your your father. She's a little bit 328 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: different too, because like her, I mean, for the most part, 329 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: if you survey anybody that's ever watched that show, like 330 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 1: most there's a high percentage of people that think it's 331 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: the best thing ever. There's not a lot of people 332 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: are that, oh, that sucks, like really like so many 333 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: and it's just so many people think it's the best 334 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: thing ever. So she's always gonna be able to like 335 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: go to some kind of comic con and get and 336 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: like be a big deal even when she's she'll be 337 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: like Linda Blair. 338 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 2: Like, well, everybody should watch Entourage because that's like kind 339 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 2: of the whole storyline of the main character's brother was 340 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 2: that he was in this like sensationalized show and the 341 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 2: only work he could ever get was going to things 342 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 2: like comic con after and reliving that character. All Right, 343 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 2: we're talking about this way too long. Let's get on 344 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,959 Speaker 2: other shories. A high school football coach is missing, conveniently 345 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 2: after being investigated for child porn. 346 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, I guess he left his house right before 347 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: the Virginia State Police were supposed to show up to 348 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: arrest him. I don't know if he got tipped off 349 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: somehow or whatever, but he left his house with a 350 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: gun and walked into a wooded area and hasn't been 351 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: seen since, so they are looking for him. Of course, 352 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: you know, the hopeful thing that will come out of 353 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: this would be well, I mean, you don't want anybody 354 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: to kill themselves, but you'd rather them do that than 355 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: to hurt people. And he has a weapon, and he's 356 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 1: clearly mentally unstable right now, and I'm sure he feels 357 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: like his whole world is falling down because he's married, 358 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: he has children, he coaches this football and all of 359 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 1: a sudden this came out that he was soliciting a 360 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: minor and child pornography, and like, if they were going 361 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 1: to arrest him, that they clearly have I mean, innocent 362 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: until proven guilty, I suppose, but they clearly have some 363 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 1: kind of evidence because if he was innocent, like why 364 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: would he run? 365 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 2: Well, I think I think the timeline's a little different 366 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 2: than what you're saying. 367 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: I think that. 368 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 2: There was a report to the school, the school put 369 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 2: him on leave, and then the cops were going to 370 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 2: interview him that night because the not arrest the rest 371 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 2: water wasn't issued until a couple of days after he 372 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 2: went missing. 373 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry, so so yeah, so he was they 374 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: were just coming to talk to him. 375 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 2: Basically, they were coming to talk to him and then 376 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: but like when they got there, he wasn't at the house. 377 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 2: And then he was last seen going into a wooded 378 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 2: and mountainous area near his house. So it's gonna probably 379 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 2: be a little hard to find him. 380 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: See, that's this is the thing that this is the 381 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: thing that's scary though, because if he he harmed or 382 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: child porn or something with a student at the school, 383 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: that's what it seems like. Then then like, don't you 384 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: think that that child's family is scared because he's on 385 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: the loose with the gun and knows who it is 386 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: that reported him. Well, like yeah, yeah, like the community 387 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: in general, just like the school in general. I don't 388 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 1: know how I would feel right now if I was 389 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: sending my kids to school knowing that one of the 390 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: teachers is on the run from the law for assaulting 391 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: a kid in my school and has a gun with 392 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: him and nobody knows where he's at. That would make 393 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: me very nervous to send my children to school there. Well, 394 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: of course, what if he goes nuts and just goes 395 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: in school and starts shooting people. 396 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you don't know, that's gonna happen. I also 397 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 2: heard on another show this morning that apparently they had 398 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 2: an issue with another teacher at the school with child pornography. 399 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure they have an issue with all the 400 00:20:55,840 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: time at schools. It sucks. But like, listen, like people 401 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: that want to be child predators, like the best thing 402 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: to do is go teach out a school because that's 403 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: how you have access to children. 404 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 2: How do you feel about this as a parent too? 405 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 2: So apparently the day after he was missing, the school 406 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 2: issued an alert to everybody saying that a staff member. 407 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 2: They didn't say who it was, they just said a 408 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 2: staff member had been put on paid and ministry to leave. 409 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: I think it's bullshit because if I got that alert 410 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: right now, I would be like, well, who is it? 411 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: Is it one of my kids teachers? Because I want 412 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: to know. 413 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 2: Like are they like do they not legally have to 414 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 2: disclose that because it seems irresponsible because. 415 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: Then what my kids last school they fired a teacher 416 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: and didn't even tell us about it and we haven't 417 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 1: heard it through the grapevine. So yeah, that's what I'm 418 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 1: talking about. And like also it's just like, so what 419 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: your kid's gonna come home from school? That day, and 420 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna be like. 421 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 2: Which one of your teachers wasn't there today? 422 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: No, that would really Like I guess they have to 423 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: disclose it. Maybe I don't know, but like think about 424 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: like if i'd just got an alert right that, like 425 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: that right now, like I'm not going to see my 426 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: kids for a couple hours. I have not like the 427 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: the not I would have in my stomach of not 428 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: being able to talk to them. And then on top 429 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: of that, like kids don't always tell if something happens 430 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: to them, and and like I want I need more 431 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: details about like what happened? Was it a boy or 432 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: a girl? Was it that their teacher? Like was it 433 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: somebody that my kids would never even see in the day? 434 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: Like I mean, the same thing happened at the kids' 435 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 1: old school, like the guy that they asked to leave, right, 436 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: it was just like he was being inappropriate. It wasn't 437 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: I didn't even hear about it, but when I did, 438 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: it was no one that my kids really had interaction 439 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: with because it was an older teacher, but he was 440 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: still allowed to send his kids to school there, so 441 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: he would still go there every day. I just thought 442 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 1: it was so weird, and I just was like this, 443 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: like this has to just be a thing in our 444 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: society that's just like not okay, and it's never okay 445 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: and we need to really be like mean and shun 446 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 1: people that do it. And his wife had gone on 447 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: social media and wrote a post that none of these 448 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: claims were true and this and that she deleted it. 449 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: So well, she deleted it because probably as the cops 450 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: have been building their case, they probably went up to 451 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: her and were like, look what we found. Look what 452 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: we found, and like obviously, like if someone said that 453 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: about my husband, I would be like, no, that's absolutely 454 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: not true, Like I I because you know, like people 455 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: you think of a pedophile as being somebody that's like 456 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: in a van with weird glasses that's creeping around and 457 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: asking kids if they want candy and puppies to come 458 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: into their van. Like no, it's the people that you 459 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: least expect that to the point where like lots of 460 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: parents say they they trusted their kid around that person 461 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: because they were so nice that they cared and this 462 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 1: and that, you know what I mean, Like, well. 463 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 2: I would say I if she I could understand if 464 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 2: she really didn't believe the claims were true, standing by him. 465 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I believe it too, Like, I mean, she 466 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: looks like she was living a typical suburban life with 467 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: the husband and the kids and the white pickt fence 468 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: and the football coach job, and like she didn't want 469 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: to believe it. 470 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 2: But if you were innocent, would you immediately go in 471 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 2: a wooded area with a gun? 472 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: I don't think so. 473 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 2: And also if she would still continue to back him 474 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 2: up now knowing these claims were true, Like if the 475 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: police have presented her with evidence saying we know he 476 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: did it, and you're still defending him, You're a fucking 477 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 2: terrible person too. Yeah. 478 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: Well, well like that, I mean that hasn't happened yet. 479 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: So yeah, So we'll try to keep updates on this case. 480 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 2: I'm sure after we stop recording this there'll be a 481 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 2: major break, you know, there always is always. 482 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: This episode is brought to you by the Grossroom. So 483 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: this week's high profile death. This section we did on 484 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: Anna Kepner. If you recall, she's the teenager that was 485 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: found dead on a cruise ship recently. 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Other times we're just like, like, whatever's happening. 495 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: If this guy right now ends up the guy we 496 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: were just talking about ends up dying in a weird way, 497 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: we might talk about him just like kind of stay 498 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: on top of the current events. So check that out. 499 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 2: Head over to the grossroom dot com now to sign up. 500 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about magic mushrooms. 501 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 2: All right, So New Jersey has advanced a bill to 502 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 2: legalize magic mushrooms. How do you feel about this? 503 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: So, I'm not against it. If it is, if it's 504 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 1: what I think it is, I'm not one hundred percent 505 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: sure because when they say they want to legalize things 506 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: like that, it makes me nervous that, oh, they're going 507 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: to start selling them in the weed stores, which you know, 508 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:16,719 Speaker 1: I'm against that. 509 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 2: It says adults over twenty one would have access to 510 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 2: the drug for mental health treatment. 511 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that so, but is that for like you 512 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: can go in a store and get it to treat yourself, 513 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: or is this in it? Because if this is in 514 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: a controlled environment with doctors and therapists, I'm totally okay 515 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: with it. It just depends. So I have a funny 516 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: story about the whole weed situation though. I had to 517 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: take Lily into urgent care this weekend because she was 518 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 1: coughing a lot and she had an ear infection. And 519 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: on the way out, I walked into the waiting room, 520 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: which stunk like weed, because everywhere stinks like weed written out, 521 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: but specifically next to a woman who was checking in 522 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: at the desk, and she just like it was inner 523 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 1: clothes coming out. And to me, it's like when you 524 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: smell that, it's like they just smoked it, right, And 525 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: she's coughing and and the lady's like, what brings you 526 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: in today? And she's like, I just stop coughing, And 527 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: I'm like, is it because you just smoked weed? Like 528 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: in the car? Just say, I don't understand. 529 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 2: I smoked tweed for over ten years and I don't 530 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 2: think my body ever smelled like it, Like how are 531 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 2: people's physical strong? 532 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: It's in the car like you're it's it's just insane. 533 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: Get a vape pen jeez. All right, So so yeah, 534 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: so I guess so this psilocybin is the is the 535 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: chemical that's in magic mushrooms, And this would be in 536 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 1: a really controlled environment, which I'm okay with because it's 537 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: supposed to be an alternative for people, especially those who 538 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: have depression and PTSD and things like that that can't 539 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: that aren't getting better with routine treatment, therapy, medications, et cetera. 540 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: I think it's great if it's in this situation because 541 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: lots of studies have shown that it makes a great improvement. 542 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: And also it doesn't appear that you need that many 543 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: treatments of it, and when they give it to you, 544 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: it's like they're measuring the exact amount that you're getting. 545 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: You're going to be there all day getting this treatment 546 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 1: in a comfortable room. There's going to be therapists talking 547 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: with you throughout the time. Like if that's if that's 548 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: the case, then like I actually want them to make 549 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: this legal. I just get scared because of like the 550 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: rapid decline as far as I'm concerned of what's happened 551 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: at least in New Jersey as well. Where I live, 552 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: that you're just like there's now more weed stores than 553 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: alcohol stores as far as I can see, there's just 554 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: at least maybe in my area. It's just like there's 555 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: one on every corner. It's out of control. Everybody high 556 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: in driving all the time, Like it's noticeable for anybody 557 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: that's not high that's driving. And of course, like the 558 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: next story that we're going to talk about, which is 559 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: ers are seeing way more visits now and it obviously 560 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: can be correlated to the fact that it's easier to 561 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: get and it's a higher potency than was ever before. 562 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: So now people, I mean, we've talked about on this 563 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: program before about the the people that are having psychosis 564 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: and things like that with it, but also in this 565 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: particular case, we're we're talking about cannaboid emesis syndrome, which 566 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: is when you it doesn't happen to everyone, but it 567 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: happens to some people, and an increasing number of people 568 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: who smoke weed that they're getting this unbearing like uncomfortable 569 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: nausea vomiting that it they have a difficult time treating 570 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: because it doesn't present like a GI illness typically would, 571 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: so they don't really have any kind of way they 572 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: could give drugs to treat it, but they don't have 573 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: an actual treatment for it yet. 574 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 2: Well, speaking of the Santa Claus, didn't we cover that 575 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 2: the guy that was like the main elf in that 576 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 2: movie had this problem? 577 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Bernard, yeah, Bernard. 578 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I forgot about it. 579 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that we did talk about this, So 580 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, like, and I guess it's weird because 581 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: the way that the articles written is just like, oh, 582 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: there's this new thing, new side effect, and it's like, no, 583 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: it's not a new side effect. There's been studies done 584 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: to see like why some people get it and want 585 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: why some people don't. And one of the most common 586 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: things that they saw in people that get it is 587 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: that it's people that use it frequently, like everyday smokers. 588 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: And the good thing is is that if you stop 589 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: smoking weed, it goes away, so it's not like something 590 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: you have forever. But if you do get it and 591 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: you still continue to smoke weed, you can get episodes 592 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: of it. And like you have to think, if the 593 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: emergency rooms are saying they're seeing like hundreds of percent 594 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: increase from years past, it's bad if people are going 595 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: to the emergency room because if you just had a 596 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: stomach ache, you would take a pepto and like sit 597 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: down and go to sleep, right, Like, no, it's bad 598 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: to the point where people are like, something's terribly wrong 599 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: and I need to go to the emergency room. And 600 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: I imagine that because you know, when you feel nauseous, 601 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,479 Speaker 1: it's like the worst feeling in the world, And like 602 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: I said, they don't really have a short way to 603 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: treat it. One very interesting thing that happens is that 604 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: sometimes putting heating pads on people or letting them immerse 605 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: in a hot bath can control their symptoms and makes 606 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: them feel better. So that's actually one of the ways 607 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: that doctors diagnose them with this condition is that if 608 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: someone's presenting with like cause, I mean, anybody could come 609 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: in and just be like having nauge in this and 610 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: they could have like they can have Crone's disease, or 611 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: they could have a celiac whatever, like they can have 612 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: a GI virus, Nora virus, anything. So the way doctors 613 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: differentiate it is like if these people keep having these 614 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: episodes and then they say, well, if you take a 615 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: hot bath, does it make you feel better? And then 616 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: if people say yes, then like they're like, okay, that 617 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: and and you you're a chronic uh weed smoke or 618 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: in this and that, and then that's how they put 619 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: the picture together. But it's just it's just like it's 620 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: an unforeseen thing, just like everything is going to be 621 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: of a side effect that people didn't really realize happened, 622 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: just because people could get it easier. 623 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 2: And the IF nicknamed it scrummating because it's a combination 624 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 2: of the patient screaming and vomiting while the episode is occurring. 625 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 2: And they're saying it's worse than childbirth, but how how 626 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 2: do you know, I mean unless you've had people. 627 00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: Well yeah, and and like I feel like I feel 628 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: like one good thing. I've always said this about childbirth, 629 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: like it is the worst pain I believe that a 630 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,239 Speaker 1: human kid experience. But I mean maybe, but it's up 631 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: there with the top two or three things. Right, But 632 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: I think the one thing that makes childbirth so tolerable, well, 633 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: number one, you the kids coming out whether you want 634 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: it to or not, so you just have to deal 635 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: with it. But I mean, like, what are you going 636 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: to do? You have to tolerate it, right, But also 637 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: when you're in that much pain and you're in childbirth. 638 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: You know why it's happening to your body, and you 639 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: know that it's going to end when the baby comes out. 640 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: It's a guarantee, and it's going to go from like 641 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: one hundred to zero in two seconds after the baby 642 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: comes out. 643 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 2: And most people not you get epidurals. 644 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: I'm just saying though, regardless like you when you're I'm 645 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: telling you this right now because you're pregnant there thinking 646 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: you're not getting it because you might not get it 647 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: and then what like. 648 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 2: That. 649 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,919 Speaker 1: There's no such thing as a guaranteed child pain free 650 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: childbirth like it's it's it's totally false. It depends on 651 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 1: lots of different things. If they're busy, if they're this, 652 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 1: they will let you. It happened to me. They will 653 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: let you deliver without an epidoral because whatever reason, they 654 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: can't get their shit together. They don't think you're as 655 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,959 Speaker 1: dilated as you are whatever. 656 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 2: So like, listen, I'm fully prepared for that. I'm also 657 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 2: interested to see how my experience is gonna be because 658 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 2: my friend, who also had pretty severe endemetriosis, was like, 659 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,399 Speaker 2: of course it hurt, but I kind of just felt 660 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 2: like I had a really bad period. 661 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, well and listen like this. This is another thing 662 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: because a lot of people will ask, you know, oh, 663 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: do your tattoos hurt or this or that, and I'm 664 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: just like listen, Like, tattoos feel like absolutely nothing compared 665 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,760 Speaker 1: to giving natural child birth. So like, if I survive 666 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: natural child birth, I'll serve I've a tattoo, which is 667 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: the same exact situation that it hurts really bad and 668 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: as soon as it's done, it's done. Like yeah, but 669 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:10,800 Speaker 1: but so anyway, getting back to this, this cannaboid hyperemesis syndrome, 670 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: like you can imagine that it is very painful and 671 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: you don't really know why it's happening, and that is scary, 672 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 1: which makes it worse, and the doctors don't really know 673 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: how to fix you, which makes it even worse. Like 674 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 1: that to me is like, okay, maybe it is that bad. 675 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 1: But and you know, like this is like one of 676 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: the reasons that I don't drink alcohol because any time 677 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: that I did, I mean the rare times I did, 678 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: I got sick. And I hate that feeling. I just 679 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: hate it. It's the grossest feeling in the world when 680 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: you feel like you have to throw up, or when 681 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: you're throwing up, or you're just nauseous and. 682 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 2: Well like hangover nausea or puking from drinking is it's 683 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 2: it's it's terrible. 684 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: So so yeah, I could see why people say that. 685 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 2: No, totally all right, we have a real life misdoubtfire 686 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 2: situation going on in Italy. So back in twenty twenty two, 687 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,240 Speaker 2: this elderly woman died and instead of reporting her death, 688 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 2: her son decided he was going to dress up as 689 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 2: her and try to claim her pension checks. Wow, so 690 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 2: this gets really interesting. 691 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: So I guess her ID. 692 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 2: He was able to collect these checks for all this time, 693 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 2: and then recently her ID expired and in Italy you 694 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 2: have to go renew it in person. So he dressed 695 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 2: up as her, put a wag on, put a makeup, 696 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 2: put makeup on, goes to the agency to try to 697 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 2: renew the ID, trying to be her, And then at 698 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 2: the agency the person dealing with him was like, why 699 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 2: does this elderly woman have hair on the back of 700 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 2: her neck and on her hands and on her chin. 701 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 2: Thought it was suspicious and then ended up reporting him 702 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 2: and he got caught by police. 703 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: He he like he just missed major things and he 704 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 1: might have been able to get away with it like that, 705 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: but especially a woman looking like you're just gonna be 706 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 1: like okay, cause you know, like if you've ever if 707 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 1: you saw something like that, you would be like, that 708 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: person is totally wearing a wig. That person's makeup is terrible, 709 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 1: Like why does it look like that? And you're just 710 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,839 Speaker 1: kind of like analyzing this situation, like what's going on here? 711 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:24,720 Speaker 1: Like and you look and you're like, looks like it's 712 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: kind of crazy because this happened in Italy, like this 713 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 1: would if this happened in America, which you probably could 714 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: just get like the ID without even having to go 715 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 1: in person. If you called and said that, they would 716 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,760 Speaker 1: be like, oh, you're being a somethingist and whatever. 717 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 2: I don't even know what. 718 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: You would be saying, you're you're against this or you're 719 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: against that, and then nobody, nobody would even do anything. 720 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,399 Speaker 1: They'd be like, we can't accuse him of being that 721 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 1: woman of being a man. That would be you know 722 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like they could sue us, and they 723 00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 1: could this and that, and in Italy they're just like, yeah, 724 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 1: don't care. Like she called her employer and was just like, Yo, 725 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,320 Speaker 1: this is a dude dressed up as a woman trying 726 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: to get these benefits, and they listened to her and 727 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: called the cops. It just would never happen here. I 728 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: thought it was interesting. 729 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,240 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, when you see the side by side pictures, 730 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, I know what's going on. 731 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: But as a hairy person, I was like, you think 732 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: it's you don't have like pube hairs like a man 733 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: does on their hand. 734 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 2: No, but I was thinking, like the last week when 735 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 2: we were at the doctor, like Ricky was like, oh, 736 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take a video of the heartbeat right, and 737 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 2: like my stomach's in it. I'm like, dude, my stomach 738 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 2: is so fucking hairy and it's just got it's Nope, 739 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 2: take videos. 740 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: It's it's hairy, like like Italian people have more hair, 741 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: like Lucia does too, Like it's just the way it is. 742 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: But but like man hair just looks different. 743 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like but the thought that like the 744 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 2: hair caught him. So basically, what this guy's deal is, 745 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,919 Speaker 2: he's fifty seven years old, he was a nurse, unemployed. 746 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 2: I wonder why. So then they end up going back 747 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 2: to the house they find the mummified body of his 748 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 2: mother wrapped in sleeping bag stuffed in a laundry room closet, 749 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 2: and he's accused of removing fluids from her body with 750 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 2: a syringe to prevent decomp and an autopsy has been 751 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 2: ordered to determine exactly how she died. 752 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: So well, I guess he was a nurse, so he 753 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 1: would have a little bit of knowledge as to how 754 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 1: to do something like that maybe, and also access to 755 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 1: syringes and things. I mean, clearly they saw something around 756 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 1: the apartment that made them think he was manipulating the 757 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 1: dead body. Yeah, I mean, I mean we've talked about 758 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,399 Speaker 1: this a couple times of fraud like the people. Wasn't 759 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 1: there one case that a woman like brought her dead 760 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 1: uncle into the bank. Oh yeah, that was like that 761 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: was a great one. Another one I remember somebody cut 762 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: someone's fingertip off and was using it as like the fingertip. 763 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. And what's interesting is this article was saying this 764 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 2: is like kind of a problem in Italy where people 765 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 2: are dressing up as people trying to get like in 766 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 2: these fraud schemes or trying to get their pensions. So 767 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody's gone to these lengths, but 768 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,320 Speaker 2: it's been happening and it's an issue. 769 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, good for Italy for calling this out all right, guys. 770 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 2: Well, if you want some Mother Noos Death merch or 771 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 2: grocerroom or Dora Matter or all the other fun things 772 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 2: we have on there, please head over to the doormattershop 773 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 2: dot com. 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