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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. Man,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with Mark Secree.

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Speaker 1: We'll take calls with Mark next hour as we talk

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Speaker 1: about all things television, Mark Space Command. I remember you

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Speaker 1: just talking about that years ago on the program. Tell

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Speaker 1: us about the evolution of this incredible idea. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: it was interesting, George, because a few years ago, all

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Speaker 1: I remember the original Star Trek and Star Trek the

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Speaker 1: Next Generation too, But I grew up with the original

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Speaker 1: And I was very determined to make a show that

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Speaker 1: And so, you know, because a number of my friends

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Speaker 1: And I thought, no, no no, no. I wanted to reach

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Speaker 1: the pilot and perhaps more episodes myself. Well. To date,

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Speaker 1: between crowdfunding and selling investment shares on Space Command, my

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Speaker 1: That's allowed me to do is open my own studio.

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Speaker 1: We're working with people all around the world and we've

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Speaker 1: recorded seven hours of Space Command so far. We started

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Speaker 1: shooting the next hour. We're going to shoot six more

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Speaker 1: hours beyond that for the first season. You can watch

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Speaker 1: mister sci Fi. We're talking to Amazon now, and we've

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Speaker 1: But my main priority now is the relationship between myself

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Speaker 1: in Space Command Neil deGrasse Tyson is now in Space

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Speaker 1: Command phenomenal. And so now we're building upon that to

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Speaker 1: And so but I have a full studio up and

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Speaker 1: of every day and I couldn't be more lucky. Tell

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Speaker 1: on YouTube. Yeah, well that was really interesting, George. You

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