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Speaker 1: My sister stole my story and then used it to

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Speaker 1: win a scholarship contest. I think I'm going to expose

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Speaker 1: her before she gets the money. Am I the a hole?

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Speaker 1: This is my sister.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Hello, I'm Sophia.

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Speaker 1: And what do you think?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: No, well, so I've used my essay. I should make

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Speaker 1: sure you don't get into whatever school you want.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Maybe, oh, now that she wants to use my old essays,

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Speaker 1: I twenty one male, have been an avid writer my

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Speaker 1: entire life. I've written three full length novels that I'm

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Speaker 1: almost perpetually reworking, and a book of short story is

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Speaker 1: all set within the same universe.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Pierre, they good.

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Speaker 1: Tell us. I've been working on this universe and the

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Speaker 1: characters within it since I was thirteen, and all of

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Speaker 1: this is very personal me. This week I found out

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Speaker 1: that my younger sister, seventeen female, won a massive scholarship

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Speaker 1: by submitting one of my short stories. I would have

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Speaker 1: been upset regardless of which story she'd taken, but she

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Speaker 1: happened to pick one based around my experience feeling othered

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Speaker 1: because of my autism. My sister is not autistic, and

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Speaker 1: actually bullied me for my autistic traits in the past.

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Speaker 2: Oh, he's really calling her out.

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Speaker 1: So the fact that this was the story she picked

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Speaker 1: to steal from me almost feels like an attack. In

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Speaker 1: addition to submitting the story, she also had to write

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Speaker 1: a piece about what inspired her, and even thinking about

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Speaker 1: what she must have made up makes my blood boil.

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Speaker 3: He should reveal that she's done this in a short

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Speaker 3: story and submit it to the same skoll.

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Speaker 1: Oh, my parents are currently struggling for money, and this

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Speaker 1: scholarship would pay for almost her entire first year. Both

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Speaker 1: my parents know what my sister did and have both

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Speaker 1: asked me to just let it slide because my sister

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Speaker 1: having this scholarship is helping her family out a lot.

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Speaker 1: They were also worried that the school my sister has

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tricky.

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Speaker 1: They're both using the excuse that she is just a

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Speaker 3: She knows what she's doing. She needs to get punished,

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Speaker 3: but I don't.

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Speaker 1: Know if ruining her whole future her whole future is

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Speaker 1: the move. I don't want to hurt my parents financially.

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Speaker 1: I don't even really want to hurt my sister. But

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Speaker 1: I don't want her to have the scholarship. I have

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Speaker 1: all the proof that she is not the real author

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Speaker 1: of the story. But would I be the a hole

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Speaker 1: if I actually sent it in? Should I just let

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Speaker 1: it go for the benefit of my family? So, Sophia,

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Speaker 1: what do you think Ope should do?

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Speaker 2: That's the tricky one.

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Speaker 4: And also I want to see put in the comments

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Speaker 4: what you think Ope should do?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, because I feel like if she loses

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Speaker 3: a scholarship and doesn't get to go to that school.

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Speaker 1: Screwsive with the parents.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it more.

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Speaker 3: I feel like it more messes with the parents' financials.

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Speaker 3: But I think it's super.

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Speaker 2: Unfair for her to take his story, and I don't

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Speaker 2: But I don't know how.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, you know what I think? Well, the

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Speaker 1: thing is, I'm like, maybe he should get a portion

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he should get the money.

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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe she just should get a job during

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Speaker 1: college and like all that money goes to him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he should get something out of What would you do?

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Speaker 1: Put your answers to the comments below. I basically told

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Speaker 1: so he desarned it.

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Speaker 4: M id a hole.

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Speaker 2: That's so sad.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but he's annoying, though, despite what I told him.

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Speaker 1: I love my son more than anything. I have three,

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Speaker 1: They were all raised to respect everyone, regardless of their differences.

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Speaker 1: My twenty one year old and my nineteen year old

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Speaker 1: less than happy when I found out. His cousin told me,

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Speaker 1: I don't love this kid either, semophobia. I gave him

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Speaker 1: I ended up grounding him, but it didn't seem to

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Speaker 1: be affecting him at all, and he clearly wasn't learning

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Speaker 1: his lesson. Go vegan, Go vegan, vegan thirty days call back.

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Speaker 1: I contacted the family and let them know what was

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Speaker 1: and again I gave my son a chance to apologize.

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Speaker 1: He got extremely upset slash angry maybe both, and said

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Speaker 2: I read ahead and I was very shy.

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Speaker 1: That's awful's so bad, I'm loving this kid.

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Speaker 4: Sentence.

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Speaker 1: Of course, I apologize and the family left. I can't

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Speaker 4: The kid, Oh my gosh, so sad.

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Speaker 1: No, my son and I got into a very big

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Speaker 1: argument when they left, where he said he wasn't sorry

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Speaker 1: that I don't like him very much either. Right now,

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Speaker 1: He got quiet, apologized and went to his room.

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Speaker 2: Oh so she didn't even say that she didn't love him,

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Speaker 2: she just didn't like him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh well, I don't like this kid either, like

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Speaker 1: him either. I've now been told that he's apologized to

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Speaker 1: this and he was bullying, and his grounding has been lifted.

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Speaker 1: He's still hiding in his room and we very rarely speak.

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Speaker 1: My ex husband says I shouldn't have told him I

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Speaker 1: don't like him that there's no excuse, and of course

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Speaker 1: that behavior is the reason we're not together because I

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Speaker 3: A whole unbelievable. Sounds like misogyny and homophobia.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder where he's learning.

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Speaker 4: Probably not from the law.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if they're split up, then it's probably from the dad.

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Speaker 2: He probably sucks.

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Speaker 4: I understand it may not have been the nicest thing

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Speaker 4: to hear, but he was not listening to a word

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Speaker 4: I was saying and being a downright bully. Yeah, am

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Speaker 4: I the a hole? And there is an update, But

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Speaker 4: first I want to hear from you, Sophia. What do

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Speaker 1: I want to well tippytop on those keyboards. Let us

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Speaker 1: know what you guys think of the comments. But what

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Speaker 1: do you think? Sofia is op the a whole?

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Speaker 3: I don't think so, because Okay, in the beginning, she

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Speaker 3: says that she says I didn't love him, but then

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Speaker 3: during the actual story, she says, I just said I

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Speaker 4: That's completely different.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because like love is like this, like it feels

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Speaker 1: like there's sore times where my sister's being super annoying.

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Speaker 4: IM like, I don't like what you're doing right now.

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Speaker 4: I'm never annoying, dude.

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Speaker 1: But we were growing up, Sophia with like hurt herself

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Speaker 1: and trip and she would say Sam, and then my

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Speaker 4: Not like that. I did not like you in that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually don't think she's being an a hole.

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Speaker 1: I think the ax is being the able.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think there's something up with him,

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Speaker 3: and I think he is teaching his son God I agree.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, there is an update, so let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: A lot has happened since I made my post, so

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Speaker 1: I figured I just pop in to let people know

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Speaker 1: how to unfold it. I've had a little chit chat

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Speaker 1: and turns out he'd asked his victim on a date

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Speaker 1: and was turned down.

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Speaker 2: No, that's so sad.

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Speaker 1: Instead of acting like a normal human being, he just

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Speaker 1: I had to be spiteful and start bullying the boy.

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Speaker 1: He's still making up for it, and we've had to

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Speaker 1: talk about consent in the fact that nobody is obligated

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Speaker 1: to date him. He knows. I understand he was hurt,

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Speaker 1: but he should have spoken to me. After all, it's

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Speaker 4: I also want to thank everyone for their kind words to.

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Speaker 1: This mama who thought she'd handled a tough situation very

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a tough situation.

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Speaker 1: A situation I feel like we call it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: like usually when kids, like you know, pick up bad behavior,

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Speaker 1: it's often from a parent. Yeah, not always, but often,

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Speaker 1: And so I think we called it where it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: the dad is homophobic.

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Speaker 3: For sure, Yeah, And I think, yeah, there's some of that,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but what would you do in this situation, Like,

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Speaker 1: we know you're loved, so love to hear her stories.

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Speaker 1: Put him in the comments below.

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Speaker 3: My girlfriend assaulted me. Now she wants a restraining order?

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Speaker 3: Should I stay with her?

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Speaker 2: Am I the a hole?

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Speaker 3: My ex girlfriend named Karen of course, who is all

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Speaker 3: in karate? Oh my god, no wonder she's beaten his

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Speaker 3: ax got wasted with her two friends last Saturday night.

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Speaker 3: She hit me in the head with a frying pan

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Speaker 3: and the three of them assaulted me.

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Speaker 4: What so they all jumped him.

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Speaker 3: She was arrested and given a felony. Now she's on

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Speaker 3: social media playing the victim. Of of course she is.

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Speaker 3: She probably released one of those apology videos.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry for being so good at karate.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, never had a significant other beat me up before,

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Speaker 3: an African American male and they were raised by their

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Speaker 3: leave their pieces father. I know that female to male

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Speaker 3: domestic violence is a much less serious issue in our

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Speaker 3: I had to miss work three separate times to travel

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Speaker 3: Finally, in the hearing, the judge determined that she was

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Speaker 3: She'll never be allowed in the dojo again. We finished

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Speaker 3: At the hearing for her restraining order against me, the

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Speaker 1: Well at least it ended kind of okay, It okay,

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Speaker 1: So if you have a story about anything, put in

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Speaker 4: Yet, weren't you wasn't ready for the baby.

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Speaker 4: Her nursery was ready, and my wife painted the walls herself.

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Speaker 1: We understood that the sister in law probably felt the

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Speaker 4: Oh God, is this going where I think it's going?

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Speaker 1: I was honestly shocked. My sister in law was never

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Speaker 1: When my sister in law found out, all hell broke loose.

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Speaker 1: She berated me on how she was a single mom

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Speaker 1: Yeah, after spending over ten thousand dollars on her expenses,

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Speaker 1: The session is is she the act too.

443
00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:43,919
Speaker 4: To the baby?

444
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:44,440
Speaker 1: To the baby?

445
00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,480
Speaker 4: I would say this the op things.

446
00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,919
Speaker 1: Maybe the maybe her wife because it's like that stuff

447
00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,120
Speaker 1: is probably hers too, Like I mean, they're sharing it.

448
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,320
Speaker 1: So edit, thank you for your kind response to some

449
00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:56,960
Speaker 1: of your answers. Really made me think about how I

450
00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,480
Speaker 1: should approach the topic. I will apologize to my wife

451
00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,920
Speaker 1: because I have her approval getting rid of the things

452
00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,159
Speaker 1: that were also hers, I didn't consider her feelings. I

453
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,720
Speaker 1: will also discuss the option of therapy with her. This

454
00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 1: all feels surreal and it will be taking time to

455
00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,960
Speaker 1: digest some of the responses and think on everything. Also

456
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,880
Speaker 1: huge thanks to some of you guys suggesting to look

457
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 1: for LGBT friendly adoption centers. I can't believe I didn't

458
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,119
Speaker 1: think of that. The adoption topic will be put in

459
00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,600
Speaker 1: hold while we process all of these events. I will

460
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 1: probably post an update after things have settled. In a

461
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,880
Speaker 1: small clarification, apparently my sister in law became a born

462
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,600
Speaker 1: again Christian when she moved to my mother in law's house,

463
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,119
Speaker 1: and acquaintance told us that she basically believed this baby

464
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,480
Speaker 1: was a sign from God to change her ways, warn

465
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 1: everyone against sin and becoming sinners. All the power to

466
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 1: her for her beliefs. I didn't expect her to deem

467
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 1: us sinners. I'm not given her power to her beliefs

468
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,480
Speaker 1: if that's how she treats people based on her religious place.

469
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,360
Speaker 4: You know, it's kind of funny when it's like, uh, hey, everyone,

470
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 4: don't sin, I'm gonna go have this one night staying

471
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 4: over here. You know, it's like, not that I think

472
00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 4: that's even a sin, But come on now, like doubles,

473
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 4: stand down, double standard. But let us know what you

474
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 4: guys think.

475
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 1: What would you do if someone basically stole the baby

476
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 1: that you paid for?

477
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 4: A jump down like that? It's different. I just drove

478
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 4: through a drag race and decided to crash their party.

479
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,440
Speaker 4: I called the police to shut them down. Am I've

480
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:18,960
Speaker 4: a hole?

481
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,640
Speaker 1: I always mix up drag races and drag shows.

482
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 4: You know. I had the exact same thing. Yeah, I

483
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 4: was reading this title. Initially I was like, oh, drag,

484
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 4: no drag race, the broom, broom. I am a pizza

485
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,360
Speaker 4: delivery driver. I was on my way home an hour

486
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,639
Speaker 4: and a half later than usual after an extremely busy

487
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 4: night where I didn't get back from my last delivery

488
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 4: until forty five minutes after closing time. About halfway home,

489
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 4: I get to an intersection that is unavoidable for me

490
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 4: that has been taken over by a large crowd of

491
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 4: teenagers with cars all decked out for street racing, holding

492
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 4: some kind of drifting competition or exhibition. Nobody in the

493
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,640
Speaker 4: crowd looked to be over twenty years old, but there

494
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,199
Speaker 4: was a least one hundred to one hundred and fifty

495
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 4: people there. One one hundred and fifty people, that's a

496
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 4: big event. I felt like I was in a fast

497
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 4: and furious movie and I was with Dom's whole crew,

498
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 4: but I wasn't part of the family. Oh big, sad

499
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 4: In my defense, I did call the cops first and

500
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 4: was informed they had already been called and were about

501
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 4: forty five minutes out. After this disheartening news, I saw

502
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,160
Speaker 4: that I had room to weave through the cars parked

503
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 4: at the intersection and get right up to the front

504
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 4: of it, since the car that had been there had

505
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 4: taken its turn drifting more like doing regular donuts. I

506
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 4: guarantee not a single one of these cars had better

507
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 4: than a stock for banger I guess up.

508
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: Or a banger wow wow nice.

509
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 4: So I moved up, started short rapid honks, and drove

510
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 4: slowly into the crowd. They mostly parted in front of me.

511
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,880
Speaker 4: Some tough guy types tried to intimidate me by standing

512
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 4: there like they would move ten feet in front of me,

513
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 4: but they all got out of the way by the

514
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 4: time I was within five feet. Kids, I'm in my

515
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 4: mid thirties. Anything under twenty is a kid to me.

516
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 4: At this point, we're banging on my car, but I

517
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,719
Speaker 4: kept going, oh, yeah, wait a second, I had a

518
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 4: pizza to deliver. Dude, Oh he's delivering a breaking pizza.

519
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 4: I had to stop to let someone who was waiting

520
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 4: for his turn to drift facing the wrong way down

521
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 4: the street to get out of my way, and they

522
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 4: kept banging on my car. Thought they were going to

523
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 4: break a window or one of my mirrors, But when

524
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 4: I finally got home and checked, there was no damage.

525
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 1: Nice.

526
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 4: So am I the a hole for not just waiting

527
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 4: for the cops to break everything up? And if so,

528
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 4: by how much?

529
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 5: So?

530
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 4: I think we have a little bit of a two layer.

531
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 4: Am I the A hole? Here? There's calling the cops

532
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 4: in the first place, and then ultimately like driving through

533
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 4: the crowd.

534
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,239
Speaker 1: I mean they're doing something illegal. I don't think it's

535
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 1: the A hole for moving through an illegal. Yeah, thing

536
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 1: to do a non illegal activity.

537
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 4: And to me, it's also like because some things aren't

538
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 4: illegal but kind of fun and cool or whatever, which

539
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 4: this kind of is.

540
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 1: But it's like in his way, Yeah, this sounds exactly

541
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 1: an Op's place. I don't think Op's the A hole

542
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 1: at all, and I don't think he's aleful calling the

543
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: cops either. My man is dedicated to his piece of delivery. Yeah,

544
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 1: man is going to deliver in thirty minutes your life.

545
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,479
Speaker 1: I purposely told my parents the wrong time for my wedding,

546
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 1: and they are furious, But I do it again.

547
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 4: Am I the a hole? It's not actually a smart move,

548
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 4: but it is such a hilarious way of making sure

549
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 4: your parents aren't at your wedding.

550
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: Oh oh sorry, sorry, I mean like I must have

551
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 1: gotten the dates mixed up.

552
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 4: Yeah.

553
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: So my male thirty three parents are late for everything,

554
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: like everything. Both of my sisters and myself have been

555
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: disappointed so many times, graduation ceremonies, birthday parties, even my

556
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: father's retirement dinner. It is completely my mother's fault. She's

557
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: a wonderful woman and I love her dearly, but she

558
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 1: does not understand the concept of punctuality.

559
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 4: That's tough.

560
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like you to get a shot callar

561
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: for your mom. Then every time she's late, starts zapping

562
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: her until she gets there.

563
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 4: That is one way to do it. Sam, You're so

564
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 4: kind to your mother. It really inspires me. Man.

565
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: Thanks mom. I have seen her talking to her sister

566
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: on the phone and reminded her she needed to be

567
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: at my baby sister's dancer title. She waved me off

568
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: and arrived after my sister had danced. That's so bad.

569
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 1: That's just like just inconsiderate.

570
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. We are all used to it.

571
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: My dad is just done trying to get her to

572
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: be on time for anything. My now wife, Emale twenty

573
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: eight told me in no uncertain terms that if.

574
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 4: My mother was late for our wedding, she would do terrible,

575
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 4: terrible things to me.

576
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 1: She was only half joking, but she was a witness

577
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: to my mom and dad driving halfway through my cousin's

578
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: Kinsanira halfway through.

579
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 4: Dude, Like, especially a wedding, like I can get even

580
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 4: being late to like a king signior or something, but

581
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 4: which is already bad. But a wedding.

582
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: So Opie has a plan. Okay, here is what I did.

583
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 1: It is completely on me. My wife is not involved.

584
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 1: If there's a dick move, it was completely mine. When

585
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 1: we were getting samples for the wedding, I talked to

586
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: the printer and had one special invitation printed with the

587
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: time on it, stating it was one hour earlier than

588
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: the actual start time of the ceremony.

589
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 4: Pretty smart, not bad at all.

590
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: Also selling it all the way with an actual invitation

591
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: with the time. Pretty smart.

592
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's his. I thought it was gonna be like

593
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 4: five hours. The three hours in advance.

594
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, with how late these parents, I would have

595
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: done three hours.

596
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, you never know.

597
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: My mother was beside herself apparently when they left the

598
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 1: house and thought they were going to miss the wedding

599
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: she was part of with her and my mother in

600
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: law lighting the candles we would use to light the

601
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: unity candle and stuff. When she arrived and noticed other

602
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,239
Speaker 1: people were also just arriving and parking, she was so

603
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: relieved that we were starting late that she just went

604
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: with it. So she was invited early to the wedding,

605
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: was like late. Was worried that, oh my god, I'm

606
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: gonna miss the whole ceremony, and then realize that it

607
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 1: was starting late.

608
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 4: I mean sounds like it might just be the perfect

609
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 4: crime so far, so.

610
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: Just I guess, make sure no one finds out.

611
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 4: That's it.

612
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: The ceremony went off beautifully, and so did the wedding

613
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: pictures and the reception. But the problem came last Sunday.

614
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: My parents came over for a big family dinner and

615
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 1: we didn't bother starting the grill until they showed up,

616
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: which was months later. She asked by everyone wasn't eating,

617
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: and we just said we knew we would be waiting

618
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: for them since they are always late. Just the facts

619
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: She said that she wasn't always late and had been

620
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: on time for my wedding, which also, how are you

621
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: not like self aware of your lateness? Yeah, at that

622
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: point when you're that bad, that that late, and also

623
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: like even if like saying you were on time for

624
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: a wedding, that even if you believed it started late,

625
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: like then you're not on time and the wedding just

626
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: started late. Yeah, she hadn't been. They arrived forty five

627
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 1: minutes after the time on their invitation. And then my

628
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: idiot cousin John real name, because it's common and he

629
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: deserves people to know he is adult, snorted at her statement.

630
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: A few other people giggled smiled at this, and she

631
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: picked up and asked what was so funny. I came

632
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 1: clean and told her about the special invitation. She is

633
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: pissed at me for not trusting her and making her

634
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: look foolish in front of everyone. If my cousin had

635
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: just controlled himself, she never would have known. So am

636
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 1: I the a hole for making this special wedding invitation?

637
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 4: Wow?

638
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: Man, and there's a little update. But I would love

639
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: to I would love to hear what do you think? Yeah,

640
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: I mean absolutely not.

641
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 4: I think that was like a great plan, and like

642
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 4: also like me, I've recently come to the thing of like, oh,

643
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 4: when I'm like organizing things, I should have an hour buffer.

644
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 4: This is like commonplace to people who like organize events

645
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 4: for friends. But I'm like, yeah, that makes so much sense.

646
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 4: So it's actually not even out of the ordinary. I

647
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 4: would say, in some ways agreed, agreed at it.

648
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: So part of the reason she is mad is because

649
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: she had her invitation framed. I guess she was just

650
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: so proud of being on time for one thing. Yeah, finally,

651
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: To be honest, I was already planning a heights with

652
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: my sisters to replace it with the real one in

653
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: case she ever noticed the discrepancy between hers and the

654
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: one we have framed in our home. And number two, yes,

655
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: we are Latinos and Noah do not in any way

656
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: consider it racist. How many of you guess that I

657
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: have been to Spain and it's been an issue there too,

658
00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: and the Philippines, basically anywhere those guys were in charge. Three,

659
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: stop defending John. He and I have spent thirty years

660
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: messing with each other. I have an ama the asshole

661
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: story that ends with me getting an offensive tattoo, five

662
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: thousand dollars for the removals, and him getting a body

663
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: cavity search at the Mexican border. I would post it,

664
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: but it happened like ten years ago. Wow, that's a

665
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: prank warp. Still post it, buddy, Yeah, I would still

666
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: post it. Open.

667
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, we might just read it. Yeah.

668
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: I don't think Opuza hole for what they did.

669
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 4: Not at all. It's like at that point, and it's

670
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 4: just so bad. On the mom like eat on time

671
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 4: for you, be like I'm going to be there. He's

672
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 4: for the wedding. Be like I'm going to be there

673
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 4: like two and a half hours early, because it's like

674
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 4: would you rather be like super early maybe or miss

675
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 4: your daughter's wedding, your son's wedding? Come on?

676
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, so bad. But let me ask you who messed

677
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: up most in your life by being late to something

678
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: or what was the time that you were late to

679
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: something and messed up yourself. I was not late to something,

680
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: but when I was leaving San jose A deol Cabo,

681
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: I was like living there for a month and it's

682
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: just during COVID and I was leaving and I got

683
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: like three hours early to the airport and then when

684
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: I was getting my COVID test at the airport, which

685
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: you can do, there was a guy there and he

686
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: was like, hey, like you want this.

687
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 4: You know, to go a little faster. And I'm like, oh,

688
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 4: what do you mean.

689
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, you know, if you give me like

690
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: twenty dollars ago, like, you can get your results faster.

691
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: And I'm like, nah, man, I'm okay. I'm like three

692
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: hours early.

693
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 4: I'm a man of principle.

694
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: I don't need to bribe this dude. And then I

695
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: wait one hour no results, two hours no results, two

696
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: hours and forty five minutes no results. The plane is

697
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: boarding and I'm like frantically the calling and things like

698
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: where's my test result? Three hours they would not let

699
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: me on. I missed my flight and I had to

700
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: go get another COVID test. And so I learned my lesson.

701
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: Always bribe the guy. That is the moral of the story,

702
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, moral of the story.

703
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 4: Bribe people. That's right, all right, we'll see soon. Love you.

704
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 4: My husband thinks I cheated and he's not the father

705
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 4: of our baby.

706
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: Now he's demanding a paternity test. It might destroy your marriage.

707
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: Am I the a whole again. Something John and I

708
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: have said over and over paternity test at birth.

709
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 4: I twenty eight female, and my husband, thirty two male,

710
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 4: have a three year old son together. There has never

711
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 4: been any doubt that my husband is the father. I've

712
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 4: never given him any cause for concern that I cheated

713
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 4: on him, and he acknowledges all of this. Last week,

714
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 4: he came to me and said that for the last

715
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 4: few months he has been plagued his word with this

716
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 4: anxiety that our son is not his. They don't look identical, granted,

717
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 4: but they definitely share similar features, and I see my

718
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 4: husband whenever I look at my son. Why all of

719
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 4: a sudden cheating. I was obviously blindsided by this. I

720
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 4: had no idea he was having these thoughts. I asked

721
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 4: him to explain why he thought that our son wasn't his,

722
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 4: and he couldn't really provide any answer other than a

723
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 4: gut feeling.

724
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: A gut feeling just doesn't appear out of nowhere. There's

725
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: something EFFICII in here.

726
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 4: He asked me if I would be okay if he

727
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 4: got a portunity test done so it could ease his mind.

728
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 4: I initially said absolutely, no way. In hell, I was very,

729
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 4: very offended. He told me that he could just do

730
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 4: it without my permission, and I said that if he

731
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 4: did that, I would never forgive him for it. My

732
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 4: husband does not have a history of anxiety, but he

733
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 4: did lose his job at the start of the pandemic,

734
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 4: so he's been with our son most of the time

735
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 4: while I work full time from home. He's like, damn,

736
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 4: I've been spending all this time with my son and

737
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 4: he just sucks, so he can't be my kid now.

738
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 4: I know this hasn't been easy on him. I'm not

739
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 4: a psychiatrist or anything, but maybe he is starting to

740
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 4: resent our son or something from just having to be

741
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 4: around him constantly. After our first heated conversation, I spoke

742
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 4: with some friends about it, and they said that he

743
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 4: was probably having some psychiatric problems due to the stress

744
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 4: of not having a job. I came back to my

745
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 4: husband and said that if he went to therapy and

746
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 4: maybe started taking some anti anxiety meds, that I would

747
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 4: consider getting the test. He was very upset at this

748
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 4: and said that once he got back the results of

749
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 4: the test, he wouldn't be anxious anymore, and that I

750
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 4: wasn't being fair by making him go through this whole

751
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 4: rigamarole again his word.

752
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: I feel the one who is being rigged and rolled

753
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: is Opie.

754
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 4: She's being very rolled and very rigged and just to

755
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 4: get his piece of mind, which again was afhraise to

756
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 4: use a lot during this, he again threatened to just

757
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 4: get the test without my permission, and I said that

758
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 4: would effectively end our relationship. I think there's something more

759
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 4: serious going on here. I thought that my solution here

760
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 4: is as fair as I'm willing to be. My friends

761
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 4: are divided. Some think that I should just take the test,

762
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 4: and others are saying he's being insane and that if

763
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 4: I cave to this, there's going to be something else.

764
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 4: I need a more neutral perspective here. Am I the

765
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 4: A hole? And there's edit's and updates, honestly quite quite

766
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 4: a bit of juicy and GDD deals, But as of

767
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 4: right now, I want to know what are you all thinking?

768
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 4: Is op being the a hole? Here? Is the husband

769
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 4: being the A hole? Here? I think the husband's being

770
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 4: the a olier.

771
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: Op with like even gave a consolations like, hey, just

772
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: like go to some therapy, talk about it, and then

773
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: I will get the paternity test.

774
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 4: Update. The bottom line is we are headed towards to force.

775
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 4: Oh no. I took some of the commenter's advice to

776
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 4: go to couple's therapy, which we did that same week

777
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 4: as my first post. I had to push him a

778
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 4: bit to get him to agree to the therapy, but

779
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 4: I told him it was either this or I was

780
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 4: never going to give in to the test. The first

781
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 4: Zoom session was a little awkward since neither of us

782
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 4: had done therapy before. After listening to both of us,

783
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 4: she basically said that she thought that we should do

784
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 4: the test to see if it eases his anxiety, and

785
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 4: that if it doesn't, which at the time was my concern,

786
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 4: that we could go from there. So my husband was

787
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 4: thrilled and I agreed, but I wanted to be on

788
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 4: Zoom with the therapist when we received the results so

789
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 4: we could talk it out with her, which he was

790
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 4: fine with. She actually agreed to do the test. Wow, Okay,

791
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 4: we did the test, and we did our Zoom session

792
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 4: when our results were in and big surprise, the paternity

793
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 4: test says he's ninety nine percent likely to be the

794
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 4: father aka if he's a dead. He didn't appear relieved

795
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 4: or happy or anything of what I expected. Maybe this

796
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 4: was unfair, but I did it expect him to cry

797
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 4: and maybe apologize to me for his lack of trust.

798
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 4: This wasn't just my imagination, though, because the therapist asked

799
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 4: him in our first session how he would feel if

800
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 4: the test came back saying that he was the father,

801
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 4: and he said that he would feel relieved, but he

802
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 4: was angry. What I think he's cheating more suspicion.

803
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: I think he's cheating. I think he's looking for an

804
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: excuse to break up.

805
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 4: He kept saying that it was over and that he

806
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 4: didn't want to talk about it. He kept repeating it's done,

807
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 4: it's done, over and over when the therapist would try

808
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 4: to ask a question about how he was feeling, and

809
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 4: he was obviously not listening. When I tried to talk

810
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 4: about my feelings and I told him I wanted to

811
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 4: talk about it, he yelled at me, which he never does.

812
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 4: What else is there to effing talk about. I was

813
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 4: mortified that he was talking to me this way in

814
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 4: front of a therapist, which also bro that is going

815
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 4: to earn you very negative points like that with the therapist, because.

816
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 1: Anyone knows therapy is a scoreboard. Between the first couple

817
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: and the second couple negative two points for a husband, and.

818
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 4: The therapist said that we should schedule a new session

819
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 4: once he had time to process. After the session, he

820
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 4: wouldn't look at me or speak to me. That he

821
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 4: was so upset that he was our wonderful son's father

822
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 4: made me absolutely lose my mind. We screamed at each other,

823
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 4: and it ended with me saying that I can't do

824
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 4: this anymore.

825
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 1: Wow.

826
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 4: He's at his brother's apartment now, finally away from our son,

827
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 4: which is obviously what he wanted all along, and my

828
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 4: mom is now staying at my place to help me

829
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 4: out around the house. I texted him this weekend asking

830
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 4: if he wanted to do another therapy session, and he

831
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 4: asked if I really thought that that would help, and

832
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 4: I had to admit that I didn't think it would help.

833
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: What happened. I don't understand what happened.

834
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 4: The speed at which this whole thing happened. Just a

835
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 4: month ago I would have said I was in a

836
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 4: happy marriage is still completely shocking to me. But I

837
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 4: don't see us recovering from this. This felt cathartic to

838
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 4: type out, though, so thanks, I guess Wow, Yeah, I'm

839
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 4: I'm very curious on everyone's thoughts in the comments, and

840
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 4: maybe I don't know you've seen like a similar situation

841
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 4: or something like that. My guess too, if it isn't cheating,

842
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 4: is maybe being with the son so much he was

843
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 4: just like I do not want to be a father.

844
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: I want to get out of That's it completely not cheating.

845
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: It's it's it's probably he just wasn't ready for fatherhood,

846
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: which sucks.

847
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 4: Like it's like, do mommy, why did you go through

848
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 4: the force?

849
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: You it was your fault.

850
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 4: Son, I kinda hate you, So there you go. He's

851
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 4: majorly that, especially because we have no idea what's actually

852
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 4: going on.

853
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, but regardless of what's going on, he's the apple.

854
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

855
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: You can't see uh a way out of him being

856
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: a no no, there is no way, no path. My

857
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 1: high school bully wants a job, not a chance. Aren't

858
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: going to get my revenge? So my the a hole

859
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 1: I mean, Sam. The question is, you know if someone

860
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: applied to OKOP, like one of my middle school bullies.

861
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 4: The salad boy inventor, applied to be our top editor.

862
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: No, no way, no deny instantly, my female thirty five

863
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: high school tormentor male thirty five. It's one of the

864
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: applicants to a job in the company I work for.

865
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: The position he is seeking is below me, which means

866
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: he is going to be in direct contact with me

867
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: many hours a day. I will add that I am

868
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: not the one doing the hiring, but as I am

869
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: the one who knows the nature of our job best,

870
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: my input has a very significant impact and my recommendation

871
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: is likely usually the one that ends up happening. So

872
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: Opie got all the power. Yeah, out of all the applicants,

873
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: he is by far the most merited and suitable for

874
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: the job. My problem is that this man has made

875
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: my adolescence very hard, to the point that I literally

876
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: had physical pain every morning before going to school. I

877
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: wanted to quit many times, but that was not an

878
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: option to my parents, who threatened to kick me out

879
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: if I didn't graduate.

880
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 4: Dang or opee man.

881
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: This bully sounds awful, but maybe he's changed, you know

882
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: or not. I think it would just make it hard

883
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: for op to do their job.

884
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying is I think that, like because

885
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 4: of that, that makes them not the most qualified person.

886
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 1: I love my job now and know I'm strong, and

887
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: he probably wouldn't be able to bully me anymore. So

888
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: that's not what I'm worried about. I just can't have

889
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: a reminder of my darkest time of my life working

890
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: with me every day. I've contemplated finding another job, but

891
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: we live in a middle sized city and my options

892
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: to find an equivalent position is minimal and with an

893
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: at least thirty percent decrease in WAG if I'm not

894
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: willing to locate to another city slash country. My god,

895
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: I mean, Op, I feel like that you could just

896
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: come clean maybe about it, yeah, and say, like, I

897
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: think this person could make like a terrible work environment,

898
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: especially for me, exactly, say, hey, this would be a

899
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: terrible work environment. This person was like abusive to me.

900
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

901
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: The job he's seeking is probably once in a lifetime

902
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: for anyone who gets it, hays great and has a

903
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: lot of opportunities to make a career and climb higher.

904
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: After two interviews with each applicant, they have chosen five candidates,

905
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: and it's now my recommendation that comes into play. I

906
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: will sit in a third interview with each of the

907
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 1: five beside management in HR. This part scares me, OPI

908
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,439
Speaker 1: he's gonna be in the room with the bully face

909
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: to face.

910
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 4: Yeah. Wow, I have.

911
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: Two other applicants that would do the job perfectly, so

912
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: it won't affect our work at all. He is just

913
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: more meriti to rephrase moss from it crowd. I am

914
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: in an ethical pickle. What can I do? And there

915
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: is an update, a juicy update. But John, what do

916
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: you think again?

917
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 4: I think like he should come forward to the team

918
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 4: and be like, look, this person absolutely tortured me.

919
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it could be just become pretty clean,

920
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: just be honest about it. So onto the update. I

921
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: will try to answer every chat request individually, but I

922
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: wanted to answer questions I got most here. What the

923
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: bullying was bad. It was both verbal and physical. It

924
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: was the punching bag for a good part of three years.

925
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 1: I had to cut my hair very short to avoid

926
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: being pulled around by it. Last year it was the

927
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: worst because he could grope and touch me to see

928
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: why I wasn't developing like the rest of the girls

929
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: our age. I was very skinny growing up. That's really

930
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: really bad. That's just as salt awful. Yes, too many

931
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: asked how I could live with myself knowing that I'm

932
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: not being impartial and not putting what's best for the

933
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: company first. Who are these fucking capitalists? Redditors being like,

934
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: why aren't you putting random capitalist company? I'm in front

935
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: of your own needs.

936
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 4: What it's Bob from Accounting being like, Wow, you should

937
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 4: really consider the company's priorities.

938
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: As I said, I do feel guilty because he was

939
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 1: the best for the job, and with COVID it's harder

940
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 1: for people to find work, et cetera. I feel very guilty, indeed,

941
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: but it was either living with the guilt or the memories,

942
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 1: and I chose the guilts.

943
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 4: Three.

944
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if you recognized me. I sat on

945
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: the second interview via zoom, and it didn't seem that

946
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: he knew me. So after I wrote here, I decided

947
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: to confront my demons and sit the third interview to

948
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: get a better idea of what he's become. He either

949
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: didn't remember me at all or just played it cool.

950
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: He was very pleasant and charming, but I don't know

951
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: if I was making things up in my mind or

952
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: not when it was my turn to ask questions, But

953
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: his whole demeanor and the way he looked at me

954
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: was different. If that's just my imagination, or not. I

955
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: didn't care. I thought I had to tell HR about

956
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 1: my past, not the details, but that we have history,

957
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: keeping it professional. But before I knew it, I was

958
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: bawling my eyes out in her office and I told

959
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: her everything. She told me not to worry and to

960
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: go home. Later I got an email that they're going

961
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: with the next on the list. To all this drama

962
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: was for nothing. I made a big deal out of

963
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: it in my head, but according to HR, the manager

964
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: didn't even want the details. It was enough that I

965
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: didn't like. I've started therapy again. This experience made me

966
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: realize that I'm far from being one hundred percent recovered

967
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: and still need to work on myself. Thank you everyone

968
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 1: for listening horro.

969
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 4: P again Like he's not the best for the job

970
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 4: because of everything that we talked about, Like it was

971
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 4: definitely the best move to come clean, be honest, and

972
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 4: pick someone who'll probably do a great job.

973
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: And also like when you work in a company and

974
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: with a team, it's not about the best individual for

975
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 1: the job, it's about the best team member. Abs and

976
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: those to be two different things. Yes, like you could

977
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: have someone with a higher pedigree that's maybe more proficient,

978
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: but if they can't work well with the other people

979
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: in the company, then they're not going to be a

980
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: good fit exactly. And so I think that's the case here.

981
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: But I would love to know your work stories. Have

982
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 1: you ever worked with the high school bully or middle

983
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: school bully or any kind of bully or work bully. Yeah,

984
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: tell us your work bully stories. And let's get to

985
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 1: the next one.

986
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 4: My ex wife was sleeping with our divorce lawyer before

987
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 4: the divorce. I am beyond furious. Am I the a hole?

988
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 4: The lawyer is really making it final? We really need

989
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 4: a way to drum up business. I got a few ideas. Guys,

990
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 4: just divorce lawyers sleeping with all of your wives. Now,

991
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 4: that's what I call finding leads. So I'm going to

992
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 4: try to make this as short as possible. I was

993
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 4: in a town with my kids and needed to get

994
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 4: my son's stuff bunny from his dad's.

995
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: So I called him several times. You know who else's

996
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: bunny was stuffed? Is any bunny?

997
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 4: Oh God? I called him several times, didn't answer. I

998
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 4: figured I was right there. I would see if he

999
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 4: was home. His car was there. I went up to

1000
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 4: the door, rang the bell, called again, but no answer.

1001
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 4: But then the door was open. So we walked up

1002
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 4: to his apartment. I knock, and a female answers the door.

1003
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 4: But not just any female, a female I immediately noticed

1004
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 4: as being the parentalegal who handled our recently mediated divorce.

1005
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 4: The wife just went up to the husband's place. Yes,

1006
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 4: and then as the pair of legal who handled the divorce.

1007
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 4: That is opening the door, and it's like, uh, what

1008
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 4: you doing here?

1009
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 1: Oh, just going over some finalizations from the divorce proceedings.

1010
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 4: Just going through the paperwork, if you know what I mean.

1011
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 4: She confirmed that that's who she is, and I calmly

1012
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 4: excuse myself. Come to find out that they had been

1013
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 4: seeing each other and sleeping together prior to the divorce process,

1014
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 4: and that was why he insisted we use a law firm.

1015
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 4: That we did.

1016
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: It sounds like the husband was trying to get the

1017
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: best deal possible. Little you know he would get a

1018
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: little paralegal thrown in there.

1019
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 4: Oh goodness, gracious for free. Yeah, we can't do any discounts,

1020
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 4: but there is something else we could do for you, Bob.

1021
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 4: You got the deal. She was the one who wrote

1022
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 4: up our paperwork and that I had confided in her

1023
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 4: things about my ex all while she was sleeping with him.

1024
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 4: To say I feel violated is an understatement. I feel

1025
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 4: like there was coercion on their part in order to

1026
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 4: manipulate me into not pursuing certain things, and that it

1027
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 4: was just morally and ethically wrong that she handled any

1028
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 4: part of our divorce. I mean, that is conflict of

1029
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 4: interest to the maas. Oh, my god, she had every

1030
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 4: incentive to push us through the divorce for her own

1031
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 4: romantic game. She called me crying and says that she

1032
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 4: feels bad and then she's never going to talk to

1033
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 4: him again, and blah blah blah blah blah, but maintains

1034
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 4: that she was a professional and they had never been

1035
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 4: in a relationship. It's semantics, Ah, when you're poorking your client.

1036
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they started before the divorce is finalized. That

1037
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: means she was working on your case and boning your man.

1038
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 4: And cheating with a married man. You were sleeping with

1039
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 4: my husband. And oh they're still friends because he's seen

1040
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 4: her every day since this has happened. My god, which

1041
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 4: makes sense, which makes me believe that this was more

1042
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 4: of a manipulation. There is nothing professional about what happened.

1043
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 4: I don't know what to do. My friend and attorney

1044
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 4: said to file an ethics complaint, which I've already written

1045
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 4: up and sent to him for review. My ex, who

1046
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 4: used to abuse me, has been threatening that if I

1047
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,439
Speaker 4: do any harm to her, there will be repercussions. Oh

1048
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 4: my god, he doesn't scare me, but we do have

1049
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 4: children together, and I don't know what he's capable of.

1050
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 4: Plus he's refusing to pay child support and said that

1051
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 4: he will not pay if I pursue anything against her.

1052
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 4: I'm a single mom of two small children and money

1053
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 4: is an issue. I have not had a single romantic

1054
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 4: feeling for that man, but I do not feel that

1055
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 4: I received fair representation based on these morally and ethically

1056
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 4: dishonest practices. Legally, what can I do? How can I

1057
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,240
Speaker 4: protect myself? This guy is a monster?

1058
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: Like what if it's like really bad. Let's say, like,

1059
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: what if it's a billionaire and someone they're married to.

1060
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: The billionaire controls all the assets, the other person in

1061
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: the relationship has nothing. I imagine a law firm will

1062
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: be like, hey, we'll represent you and then and we

1063
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: get like half the winnings if we win anything.

1064
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 4: Oh, you're saying like there could be bad incentives because

1065
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 4: they're just like, hey, we'll just represent you. It sounds

1066
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 4: like this scenario like a couple and try and get

1067
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 4: some of the whole thing.

1068
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like in this specific scenario because the

1069
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: law firms representing them both, it doesn't seem like necessarily

1070
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: be fair to the wife.

1071
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, And he was the one that chose it.

1072
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, if he chose it, and he was like manipulating

1073
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: you know, the situation by Boone and the paralegal.

1074
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 4: I don't know, or the paralegal was manipulating him. I

1075
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 4: don't know.

1076
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: It's crazy, but yeah.

1077
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 4: This is absolutely beyond insane, Like, yeah, yeah, how do

1078
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 4: divorce proceedings usually go? How do they work?

1079
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: Do lawyers takes from like off the back? You have

1080
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: to pay up front? Anyone who's been divorced, give us

1081
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: your divorce proceedings.

1082
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,919
Speaker 4: I imagine there's kind of like ambulance chaser lawyer vibes

1083
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 4: where it's like, hey, we'll represent you and then just

1084
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 4: try to siphon as much money to get a fee

1085
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 4: percentage off of that and maybe a fat one.

1086
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, but let us know that's a doozy of a

1087
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: story that sucks. Sorry, op, Yeah, very sorry, but.

1088
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 4: You know we love you, guys.

1089
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 1: We love you and we will see you this season.

1090
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 4: I'm calling the police on my sister. She wrecked my

1091
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 4: car and refuses to pay, So I'm going to destroy

1092
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 4: her life. Am I the ahole? Lock her up? So

1093
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 4: I female, seventeen, live with my parents. I have an

1094
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 4: older sister, twenty nine, female that they had when they

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00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 4: were super young. I think my mom was nineteen and

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00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 4: my dad was eighteen.

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Speaker 1: No, that's young.

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00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 4: They did not do a great job with raising my sister,

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00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 4: and she has a lot of problems. She is chronically

1100
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 4: unemployed and a thief. She has two kids that are okay,

1101
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 4: just okay, not great, Yeah, not the worst, but okay, okay,

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00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 4: op op them they live with us as well because

1103
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 4: her boyfriend didn't want them around. I like the kids,

1104
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 4: but they are spoiled little brats, and my parents dote

1105
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 4: on them, shower them with loving gifts to make up

1106
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 4: for being crappy parents to their mom. Nice. My parents

1107
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 4: won't let me put a lock on my door because

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00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 4: it's their house and they don't want that. All right,

1109
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 4: but no problem. I talked to the kids and explained

1110
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,919
Speaker 4: about what would happen. If they came into my room

1111
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 4: without my permission, you will die. My sister broke up

1112
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,720
Speaker 4: with her boyfriend and she needed a place to stay.

1113
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 4: I begged my parents not to let her stay with us.

1114
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 4: They declined, so I begged again for a lock on

1115
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 4: my door. But no, dice. I have to go to school,

1116
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 4: so I can't god my stuff at all times. When

1117
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 4: I came home on Friday, I found my car.

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00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely trashed and a whole side of the car destroyed. Wait,

1119
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: why so my sister had gone into my room, found

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00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:19,280
Speaker 1: my spare key, and stolen my car, then lost control

1121
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: on the dice after a day of eating crap and

1122
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 1: tossing fast food wrappers everywhere. That does not make sense

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00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: to me. I my car is so clean.

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00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 4: The maid will cleanness up. Eat this trash. You will

1125
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 4: have trash, don't this? Yeah? I laugh, trash. When I

1126
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 4: saw my car, I was I told my parents that

1127
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 4: I expected her to pay to fix it. Reasonable, No,

1128
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 4: totally unreasonable. Oh yeah, you're right. What was I thinking?

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00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 4: They said, But she doesn't have any money.

1130
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: Oh God, work the street corner.

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00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 4: So I said that I would call my grandparents because

1132
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 4: my grandparents had helped me get the car and the insurance.

1133
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 4: After talking with my grandfather, I came back to my parents.

1134
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 4: I said that the insurance would cover fixing or replacing

1135
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 4: my car, depending on the damage, but that I would

1136
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 4: have to file a police report against my sister. I

1137
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 4: imagine so, and that my sister would probably be charged

1138
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 4: for stealing my car. They begged me to tell the

1139
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 4: insurance that she had permission to drive the car, but

1140
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 4: I said no, sorry. So rather than go through insurance,

1141
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 4: they are now replacing my car. Wow, with a Ferral.

1142
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 4: I mean it better be. But they are using the

1143
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 4: money that they had set aside to take me and

1144
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 4: my nieces to Orlando next summer for my graduation. It's fine,

1145
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 4: I can do without seeing Disney World again, but my parents, sister,

1146
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 4: and nieces are upset with me and saying that I

1147
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 4: am an athole for denying my nieces the opportunity to

1148
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 4: go on the vacation that they've never had. I just

1149
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 4: asked if a lock for my door would have been cheaper. Wow,

1150
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 4: singer all started from a door lock, So am I

1151
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 4: the A. There's a quick edit. I just got home

1152
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 4: from my school. There is now a dead bolt on

1153
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 4: my bedroom door, and my mom gave me a key.

1154
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 4: She says that she's keeping the other one for an emergency.

1155
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 4: I agreed as long as it was only for emergencies. Man,

1156
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 4: this is the most like like insane route just to

1157
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 4: get to putting a lock on a bed.

1158
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: Oh, I know. I feel like it's like I had

1159
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: no idea how much tragedy could occur from not having

1160
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: locked doors.

1161
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 4: I mean truly, truly, truly.

1162
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: I mean but then again, like prison, like that's that's

1163
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: just a door lock away from releasing murderers on the street.

1164
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 4: That is true. Yes, lock doors are really important. Maybe

1165
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 4: they are. Maybe they are.

1166
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: You know, maybe it's as important to keep people out

1167
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: as to keep them in.

1168
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 4: That's true.

1169
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 1: Deep Oh god, if you think about it.

1170
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 4: Way too deep. But so what's the question here?

1171
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: Do you have locks on your doors? When you were

1172
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: a kid, were you able to lock your door? And

1173
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 1: if you have kids, do you let them lock?

1174
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 4: Yes?

1175
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: I want to know why or why not?

1176
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 4: But also I think a question is are the grandparents

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00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 4: the a hole for taking the vacation money the not

1178
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 4: gift gift money and using that to pay for it?

1179
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: Should the sister pay for something? I feel like there's

1180
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: no repercussions for the sister, and like this is not

1181
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: learning anything.

1182
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 4: At all as a result, Like this sister is just

1183
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 4: completely and the sister's probably gonna do something like this again.

1184
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's going to strike once more. She's gonna get

1185
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: a lock picking pick, lock picking kit and just go

1186
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 1: into the dead bolt door and steal the keys again.

1187
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 4: For a second, I thought you're gonna say she was

1188
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 4: going to strike like her unfair treatment, Like you know,

1189
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 4: you should pay me for wrecking the car, Like just

1190
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 4: take out one.

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00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: Step for other you know what with these stories like

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00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 1: I wouldn't I wouldn't put it past them.

1193
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 4: That's true, that's true.

1194
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: Crazy. Let us know if you were able to lock

1195
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: your doors when you were a kid, or if you

1196
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,720
Speaker 1: let your kids lock their doors today.

1197
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 4: Fed up by allowing my girlfriend.

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00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: Today, girls, she may not be satisfied with your head

1199
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: game anymore.

1200
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 4: So.

1201
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: Me and my girlfriend have then a couple for nearly

1202
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 1: seven years. Seven years impressive. We met in college and

1203
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: are now in our late twenties early thirties. For context,

1204
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 1: I was her first, but I myself had some significant

1205
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: experience of dating both men and women. Also as I

1206
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 1: started college, not right after high school. She's some years

1207
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: younger than me. Our relationship has been somewhat open from

1208
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: the start. In the first years, we've been having occasional

1209
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: threesomes and met other couples, which was fun and easy going.

1210
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 1: I don't think that part was that today aft up

1211
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 1: and I would happily do that again.

1212
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 4: Oh God, here after four years.

1213
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: My girlfriend broke down, crying and told me that she

1214
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: isn't sure if meeting girls or sex with me in

1215
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: the room would be sufficient for her in the future,

1216
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 1: as she realized she is more by than she thought.

1217
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: So bye bye to the boyfriend.

1218
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 4: I only like women.

1219
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: This is where the today aft up starts. I instantly

1220
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 1: agreed that she can go on solo dates because I thought,

1221
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: all I want is to see her happy. She will

1222
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: thank me later this will strengthen our relationship. She doesn't

1223
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: have any experience whatsoever, so she will regret not having

1224
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: made that experience later in life if I don't allow

1225
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: her to do it now. So I mean, honestly, not

1226
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: a bad thought process. She also somehow suggested that I

1227
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: will profit from that decision. Profit what we started to

1228
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: not only when I get off, but you will get

1229
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: rich Basically, she said she would be introducing me to

1230
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: the women she'll meet along the way. Up to that point,

1231
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 1: it had been ninety nine percent me who have been

1232
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: organizing dates and managing all these stupid dating profiles on

1233
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: multiple platforms.

1234
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 4: Well, of course it didn't go well.

1235
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 1: My girlfriend had quite some fun and all I received

1236
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: were the stories of her experiences. No profit, no profit

1237
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:55,240
Speaker 1: for open zero zero dollars ahead. This was perfectly fine

1238
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: for a year or so. At one point, I was

1239
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: allowed to also meet women after our g about that

1240
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: point for quite some time, but I just didn't get

1241
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,919
Speaker 1: to the point of going to solo dates when all

1242
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: I wanted was to have a happy girlfriend. I tried

1243
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: once and then it died down. Needless to say, my

1244
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: girlfriend never ever actively introduced me to a single person

1245
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 1: she met. After a year or so, things started to deteriorate.

1246
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: My girlfriend had met about ten women already, and I

1247
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: also allowed her to have a threesome with two other women.

1248
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 4: That's a lot to juggle.

1249
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: You've heard of love a lot to Hey, she's good

1250
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: at multita asking, I guess. Some months ago, two years

1251
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: after the single dating phase started, the situation finally exploded.

1252
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: The breakdown is she isn't sure of her sexuality anymore.

1253
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 1: She isn't looking for sex, She's actually actively looking for

1254
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 1: a relationship on the side because she cannot separate between

1255
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: sex and love. She needs the emotional connection to have fun,

1256
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: and it is desirable for her to have a second

1257
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: female partner for the needs I cannot satisfy. Oh the

1258
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: head gay man, that your game week?

1259
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 4: It's two week.

1260
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: She will always think of other women. She isn't sure

1261
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: if she finds me attractive in that way anymore. She

1262
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: never intended to do the single dating part for the

1263
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: sake of our relationship. She was really just doing it

1264
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: for herself. That she wasn't honest to me and to

1265
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,919
Speaker 1: herself the whole time. However, she didn't want to break

1266
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: up as I am still the love of her life

1267
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: and all she wanted to do was find a way

1268
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 1: to have it all. So, John, who is the a

1269
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: hole in this story? I want to know your thoughts, feelings,

1270
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: put your put your comments in the comments section below.

1271
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: I want to know what you guys think. But is

1272
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: there an a hole of this story?

1273
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 5: So?

1274
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 4: Who the girlfriend? Absolutely? I mean without a doubt, like

1275
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 4: like at least I feel like I feel like you

1276
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 4: should tell what's happening as as it's happening, and like

1277
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 4: I almost am like it'd be better to break it

1278
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 4: up because this went on for a year.

1279
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: A year, so a year of people not sure.

1280
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 4: Like always like what do I have? And then to

1281
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 4: ultimate like you were going to say all this stuff anyways,

1282
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 4: So why not be like preemptive and like I just

1283
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 4: want to make sure I don't string you along, yeah,

1284
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 4: and not hurt you anymore, versus like a year of

1285
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 4: like pain and then I'm sure.

1286
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: The girlfriend was thinking about how she you know, could

1287
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: or couldn't hurt op.

1288
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 4: No, No, I think she's just like experimenting around and

1289
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 4: like maybe she's right and she really didn't realize it.

1290
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 4: But it's like you have to think, ye that it's

1291
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 4: not going to feel.

1292
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: Great great, you know, but I would when I think

1293
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: I would like to know the experience of for for

1294
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: our uh for audience that is is on the queer side.

1295
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: So like would you like, did you ever date your

1296
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: like the opposite sex first and then realize later that

1297
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: you wanted to like date you know, guys or girls

1298
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: or whatever it was. Did you ever have to make

1299
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: that transition I guess known to your partner.

1300
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1301
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like did you like, like, like, how did you

1302
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: did you ever make that known?

1303
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1304
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: I'm curious if, like, like, how that for the people

1305
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: who realized they were gay during their relationship?

1306
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 4: Yes?

1307
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: What did you do?

1308
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 4: Yeah? That's where they just break it off?

1309
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: Or did you say like, hey, I'm more interesting guy

1310
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: slash girls or whatever. I'm curious.

1311
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 4: I'm gonna shut down my brother's wedding. You think I

1312
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 4: give a fack? I don't. Am I the a whole?

1313
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: Your siblings don't deserve love, you know. I've always said

1314
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,919
Speaker 1: that there's only one person that deserves love, and it's you.

1315
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: Everyone else should just feel pain in the wake of

1316
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: your love.

1317
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 4: So did make a novel story short? My female twenty

1318
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 4: seven brother male thirty met his future wife, Ella, female

1319
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 4: twenty eight at a party three years ago. Honestly, we

1320
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 4: never got along, but I always tried to put up

1321
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 4: a peaceful front because my brother seemed blissfully happy with her.

1322
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: Red flag yep, how dare you be in love? Yeah?

1323
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, disgusting blame. Ella was mean to me a lot,

1324
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 4: like a lot. She would make up comments about my weight,

1325
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 4: my makeup, and especially my dog.

1326
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: The dog.

1327
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 4: I mean, damn, even the dog is catching straight bullets

1328
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 4: over here?

1329
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: What did the dog do?

1330
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 4: She hated animals and hated that I would bring my

1331
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 4: lab toast cute dog name, created dog name to my

1332
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 4: parents or my brother's house. Always just felt like something

1333
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 4: aimed to hurt me. When the two got engaged, she

1334
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 4: asked me to be her maid of honor. Since she

1335
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 4: has no sisters and not many girlfriends, and since my

1336
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 4: brother seemed thrilled, I obliged. I love how it's just like, hey,

1337
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 4: so like I had to like know no other female friends,

1338
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 4: so could you just like do this for me?

1339
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: Also, it sounds like this girl hates soapy yeah, and she.

1340
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 4: Wants her to be her maid of honor. What I

1341
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 4: failed to realize when I accepted the role was that

1342
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 4: to her, the maid of honor meant planning the entire wedding, literally.

1343
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: Playing the role. It's literally a role. It's this is

1344
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: a fake relationship.

1345
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 4: Like I was booking venues, florist's, jazz bands, everything. Even worse,

1346
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 4: she expected me to put my credit card down for

1347
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 4: all of it. What this is a farce?

1348
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: Wait, but aren't you supposed to plan your own wedding. Yes, abe,

1349
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: the maid of honor does like a bachelor atte party,

1350
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: but not your whole wedding.

1351
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 4: Absolutely not, and not paid for it. My god, my

1352
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 4: brother and her are not exactly well off, and since

1353
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 4: I have a well paying job, I don't mind holding

1354
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 4: the deposits, but it was starting to add up a lot.

1355
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 4: That is the biggest red flag of all tiers. Don't

1356
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 4: think you're going to get that money back. It's awful,

1357
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 4: because hey, you should never ask someone to do that.

1358
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 4: It's just stupid and be the consequence. What if she's like, no,

1359
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 4: I don't want to do the wedding anymore, loses the

1360
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,919
Speaker 4: deposit on her credit card. Every time I would ask

1361
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 4: Ella about it, she would say that, oh, it's all

1362
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 4: going to be paid back by her parents before the wedding.

1363
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 4: It's totally cool. Don't worry. I'm sending a train back

1364
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 4: and then the parents paid back everything with interest. Oh wow,

1365
01:00:58,440 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 4: just kidding.

1366
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: This is red stories, Reddit stories where our dreams are slashed.

1367
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 4: Well, flash forward to last week, about three weeks before

1368
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 4: the wedding, and she is unbearable to be around. She

1369
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 4: can't last more than a few minutes before snapping at anyone.

1370
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 4: So when I, of course brought up the money, crap

1371
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 4: started hitting the fan. I asked if she had received

1372
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 4: the updated receipt of everything owed. When she exploded, she

1373
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 4: called me a whole line of terrible names, but the

1374
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 4: one that stuck out was, what do you need the

1375
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 4: money for anyway? Your sick dog is dead?

1376
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 1: Now laid the dog. He's dead. Why are you bringing

1377
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 1: dead dogs into this?

1378
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 4: Just so many layers I can't even begin. Oh my god,

1379
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 4: my beautiful Toasty died about a month before this, after

1380
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 4: we fought the bravest battle with his cancer. He was

1381
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 4: my sole dog, and I was devastated. Oh, oh my god.

1382
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 1: Holy, this person's so bad.

1383
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 4: She's landing her whole wedding, putting your money own for

1384
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 4: everything for it, bro Oh my god. I blinked at

1385
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 4: her and simply left the room, having no energy to

1386
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 4: even respond to something so cool. I went back to

1387
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 4: my car, and after the silent twenty minutes drive home,

1388
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 4: I parked the car and immediately called the vendors and

1389
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 4: canceled any deposit under my car.

1390
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 1: Wow, can you cancel a deposit? That's a good question,

1391
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 1: unless maybe she just made it. I canceled every single one.

1392
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: After almost twenty calls, all that was left of her

1393
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: wedding was the dress and the flower arch. I texted

1394
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 1: my brother a short explanation. I told him that every

1395
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: vendor would be contacting him if they wished to keep

1396
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 1: their services, and they were now responsible for covering everything,

1397
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: and I would no longer be attending the wedding. Wow,

1398
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: I'm surprised the brother hasn't like stepped in all and

1399
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 1: if this is how she was treating her now, she

1400
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 1: said she had a history of being mean to her, So,

1401
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 1: oh my god.

1402
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 4: It was a matter of minutes before my phone started

1403
01:02:56,760 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 4: to explode and I just turned it off. Smart. Smart, Yeah,

1404
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 4: that's that's all you can do at that point. It's

1405
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 4: been a few days and I haven't talked to anyone

1406
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 4: but my mom, who thankfully understands where I'm coming from.

1407
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 4: My brother has tried to call, but I just feel

1408
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 4: terrible both about what I did and about what she said.

1409
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 4: I know what I did was extreme, but I also

1410
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 4: couldn't sit by and practically enable her cruelty anymore. I

1411
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 4: still can't help but feel bad for ruining my brother's

1412
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 4: big day. So I don't know. Am I the hole

1413
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 4: for this.

1414
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: Hmmm, I want to know what everyone else thinks. Put

1415
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: it into the comments, please please. I think something that

1416
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 1: I'm feeling is like a little bit yes for canceling,

1417
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 1: but you also shouldn't have put your card down in

1418
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 1: the first place.

1419
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 4: That's where I'm like, she was not obligated to do

1420
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 4: that in the first like that was such an immense

1421
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 4: favor that like it kind of has this like feeling

1422
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 4: on the surface of like, oh my gosh, you like

1423
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 4: canceled everything and ruined it. But it's like, you like,

1424
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 4: that is a very unreasonable thing to ask somebody if

1425
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 4: at any point, like imagine she had some expense come up,

1426
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,439
Speaker 4: and it's like I can't like be leaded with these

1427
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,919
Speaker 4: potential It's just it's just a lot of liability.

1428
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 1: It's so much seemed like I feel like if OPI's

1429
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 1: brother went through with the wedding, I think they would

1430
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 1: owe a ton of money and wouldn't be able to

1431
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 1: pay it back, and I think then op would be

1432
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 1: out like a bunch of money.

1433
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 4: Honestly, this is probably like a really big dodged bullet

1434
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 4: because from everything we knew, it was three weeks to

1435
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 4: the wedding and they hadn't paid anything back, so it's like,

1436
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 4: why would they continue? Yeah?

1437
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:28,919
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, I mean I want to know what everyone

1438
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 1: else thinks. That is an absolute crazy situation. I would

1439
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 1: never pay for someone's like someone, especially what I didn't like.

1440
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's my only like thing on OP is like like, op,

1441
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 4: don't do that to yourself, Like.

1442
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: You're putting yourself in a really bad position.

1443
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 4: Absolutely. I would also like to hear if you guys

1444
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 4: have any crazy wedding stories.

1445
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 1: Yes, we would love to hear that in the comments immediately.

1446
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 4: Yes, and we'll see you soon, see you soon. I

1447
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 4: want to abandon my step son, but my husband won't.

1448
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 4: I think it's fine, am I the ahole?

1449
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: It is fine because if he's a little he deserves

1450
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: to be a bandited ooh sorry. My husband thirty nine

1451
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 1: male and I have been married for five years. We

1452
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 1: have two children of our own, both girls aged five

1453
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 1: and two, and I have a son, ten male from

1454
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 1: a previous marriage.

1455
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 4: But I was widowed. My husband's ex is barely involved

1456
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 4: in stepson's life at all. They got divorced when step

1457
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 4: son was two and his ex wanted a fresh start,

1458
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 4: so my husband did the decent, selfless thing and had

1459
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 4: complete custody of their son, even though he'd wanted shared custody.

1460
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 1: A fresh start. Imagine being like, yo, I know we

1461
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:38,439
Speaker 1: have this kid together, but I don't.

1462
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 4: I just want a fresh start. I got a bonus

1463
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 4: at work, and I really just want to go on

1464
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 4: vacation with my family just once. We've been on family

1465
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 4: vacations all together, lots of times, but just once. I

1466
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 4: want to spend my money on going on vacation where

1467
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 4: I'm not looking after someone else's kid. Ruh. When you

1468
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 4: get married, you take on that baggage.

1469
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that baggage is your baggage.

1470
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 4: I want step son to stay with his mom while

1471
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 4: we go on vacation. My husband sees my point of

1472
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 4: view and is okay with it. I don't think I'm

1473
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 4: being unreasonable at all. My mom found out what I

1474
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 4: was planning and says I'm being a complete ale. Yeah,

1475
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 4: I think so. These are the reasons that she says

1476
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 4: I could be the a hole one. My mom says

1477
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 4: that if step son's mom isn't properly involved in his life,

1478
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 4: I should be even more involved in his life to compensate.

1479
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 4: I think this is a completely unfair expectation. I don't know.

1480
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 1: I think if you marry an, you gotta kind of

1481
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: like marry you marry the kids too, kind of pardon

1482
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 1: the deal.

1483
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 4: Number two. She also says that I'm being a hypocrite

1484
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 4: taking my son, But I think that's totally different because

1485
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 4: my son doesn't have another parent and I'm all he's.

1486
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: Got oh pee.

1487
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 4: If step Son's mom won't take him just this once,

1488
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 4: then obviously he'll come on vacation with us. But I

1489
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 4: don't think I'm the a hole to ask if I

1490
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 4: can have a vacation with my own family just one time.

1491
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 4: He's part of your family, part of It's not like

1492
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:07,959
Speaker 4: I hate my step son or something. He's a nice kid.

1493
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 4: He's just not mine. Am i' the a whole? Well,

1494
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 4: we do have an update, Sam.

1495
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm so excited for this update, being

1496
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 1: like I guess I'm the a hole. If that is

1497
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 1: not the update, I'm gonna be.

1498
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 4: Very mad as of right now. Put in the comments

1499
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 4: if you think Op's the a hole or not, we

1500
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 4: definitely won't be going on vacation without my step son.

1501
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 1: Thank God.

1502
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 4: After a couple hours of replies, I decided to show

1503
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 4: this to my husband. We sat down and had a

1504
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 4: really long talk about it. He told me he's never

1505
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 4: been comfortable with my attitude to my step son, but

1506
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 4: didn't know how to say it to me before. I

1507
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,439
Speaker 4: don't want to be a bad person. I just never

1508
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 4: thought of stepchildren being your real children.

1509
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 1: I never thought of stepchildren being like real life human

1510
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 1: beings that have thoughts and feelings.

1511
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 4: I don't think it would be easy for anyone to

1512
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 4: accept this level of criticism, but all of your replies

1513
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 4: have shown me I have a lot of work to do.

1514
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: I love how OPI phrased Thats like. Not everyone would

1515
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 1: be as good as accepting the criticism as me, But

1516
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 1: I now know that I can and weird work on this.

1517
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 4: As many of you suggested, and so did my husband,

1518
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 4: I intend to see a therapist to help me with that.

1519
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 4: As I said, I don't hate my step son in

1520
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 4: any way. I have never been deliberately cruel to him.

1521
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 4: I've just always thought of him as my husband's child.

1522
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 4: But I realize my mindset needs a change, so I'm

1523
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:32,759
Speaker 4: going to start working on that. I want my family

1524
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 4: to be the best it can be, and I need

1525
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 4: to accept that that includes my step son. I understand

1526
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 4: that now, and I'm going to start seeing a therapist

1527
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,639
Speaker 4: to become a better person. We've also talked about maybe

1528
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 4: having family therapy too. I've also made up with my

1529
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:46,639
Speaker 4: mom and she is one hundred percent behind the changes

1530
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:48,759
Speaker 4: I want to make in my life. It wasn't easy

1531
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 4: to hear everything you said, but I understand that I

1532
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 4: needed to hear it.

1533
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 1: Damn straight. Well, I guess that's one less evil stepmother.

1534
01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 4: That's right, you know, one less apple to he's in

1535
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 4: the stepchildren of all.

1536
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 1: That is what this show is about, just like eliminating

1537
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,720
Speaker 1: evil step mothers across the world. Do you have a

1538
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 1: bad relationship with your step mom or dad or sibling.

1539
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 1: Put in the comments below.

1540
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 4: We love to see you.

1541
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 1: My sister demands a child free wedding, so I'm gonna

1542
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 1: boycott it because I'm with the children. You know, I

1543
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 1: staying with the children. You know I was once a

1544
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 1: child myself. Really yep, still am. For some background, I

1545
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 1: am the youngest of four girls. My two older sisters

1546
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 1: thirty two thirty both have kids. My third sister, twenty

1547
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 1: seven doesn't and is getting married at the end of

1548
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 1: the month. I twenty three, also don't have children, but

1549
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 1: my partner, and I hope to have some in the future.

1550
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 1: Older sister lives overseas with her husband and so is

1551
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:45,440
Speaker 1: mostly irrelevant in this situation.

1552
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 4: Get out of my face.

1553
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 1: Her and sister three don't speak.

1554
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 4: Dang.

1555
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:50,719
Speaker 1: Imagine being the irrelevant sister.

1556
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 4: Get out of here.

1557
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 1: Yeah right, you're still in the picture. We literally don't

1558
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 1: care about you. That's why we want you to move

1559
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:56,719
Speaker 1: across the sea.

1560
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 4: Anyway.

1561
01:09:57,240 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 1: Sister to three is having a child free we She

1562
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 1: is like aggressively child free. We don't really get along.

1563
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 1: So basically our parents are old farts. Well, I love

1564
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 1: them and can no longer drive. I can't drive either,

1565
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 1: but my husband can, as can my older sister. She's

1566
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 1: a single mom though, and had no one to watch

1567
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 1: her kids. I wonder if anyone can see where this

1568
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 1: is going. My husband and soon to be brother in

1569
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 1: law hate each other. This does lot of hate going

1570
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 1: on this family.

1571
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 4: Alright, Yeah, really, this is not good. They grew up

1572
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 4: together and there's just a lot of hard feelings there.

1573
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 4: So my husband wasn't going to the wedding. I was

1574
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 4: going to have him drop me off. Wow, damn, what happened.

1575
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:41,639
Speaker 4: There's so much beef in this family.

1576
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 1: This is like a D grade porn movie because man,

1577
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 1: is there's some salami entering the picture?

1578
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 4: Did you order the extra large.

1579
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 1: In the end Last weekend, after months of anxiety, I

1580
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 1: said I would stay with the kids so my parents

1581
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 1: and sister could go. She will drive them and attend

1582
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 1: in my place once we decide if my husband gave

1583
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 1: the okay to work on the day of the wedding.

1584
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 1: My sister get.

1585
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:05,839
Speaker 4: Lost our mind.

1586
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 1: Then decided she would have someone else drive our parents

1587
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 1: and asked me to come. I told her, no, my

1588
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:15,839
Speaker 1: older sister wants to go. I'd rather her there anyway,

1589
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 1: as if one of our parents falls or something, she

1590
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 1: knows what to do. It also sounds like, ohp he

1591
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 1: just doesn't.

1592
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 4: Want to go to this wedding.

1593
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 1: No, this is just an excuse.

1594
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 4: Excuse.

1595
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: Actually, sister lost it and said I was being selfish

1596
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 1: and this is.

1597
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 4: Where I may have been the acle.

1598
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 1: I then told her I didn't see the point in

1599
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 1: going to an event half the family would be missing.

1600
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:38,560
Speaker 1: From referencing the kids, I guess the child freness of

1601
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 1: the wedding. She said it should have mattered to me

1602
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 1: because I don't have kids. I then said they were

1603
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 1: in better company than her and point blank refused to

1604
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 1: attend her wedding. Okay, so like not being able to

1605
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 1: is just an excuse, Like op, he legitimately doesn't want

1606
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:56,440
Speaker 1: to go. Yeah, yeah, even if the kids have a babysitter,

1607
01:11:56,600 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 1: which sister is now offering to pay for, I wouldn't go. Oh,

1608
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 1: she's so upset. I feel a little bad, but not much.

1609
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 1: My older sister says, I'm in the right. Second sister

1610
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:10,440
Speaker 1: says she feels really bad. Our parents aren't really acknowledging

1611
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 1: the situation. I think they just want to see their

1612
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 1: daughter get married. So am I the a hole? What

1613
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:16,639
Speaker 1: do you think?

1614
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 4: John? Also, what do you think about a.

1615
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 1: Child free wedding?

1616
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 4: I understand it, but I don't know if I would

1617
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 4: do that, or like, what if you wanted to have

1618
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 4: like a nudist wedding, rock out with it out, That's

1619
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 4: what I say. I don't think I would personally do it,

1620
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 4: but I could see wanting to have a child free wedding.

1621
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 4: I understand where it comes from. What if you're like

1622
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 4: you want you want to do.

1623
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 1: Like a rave You want to just do a bunch

1624
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 1: of drugs with your friends, yeah, or you want to

1625
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 1: go backpacking in the forest with a couple of pals,

1626
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:44,599
Speaker 1: and that's your wedding.

1627
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 4: There it is.

1628
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 1: I could see not wanting kids to be there. I

1629
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 1: think op's a little bit of the a hole for

1630
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 1: going that far.

1631
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 4: It's kind of like she's virtue signaling almost in a

1632
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 4: way of like no, I want the kids there. It's

1633
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 4: like you just don't want to be there. Yeah.

1634
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:04,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like there's something deeper against the sister.

1635
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: But let's go into the updates. So apparently the vote

1636
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 1: for this story was everyone's the autole. Everyone who was

1637
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 1: asking about the drama between my husband and brother in law.

1638
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:17,640
Speaker 1: Here you go. I had to get permission from the

1639
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 1: sister in law before I could share. So my sister

1640
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 1: in law, husband's sister and soon to be brother in law,

1641
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 1: sister's almost husband dated in high school. He got her

1642
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 1: pregnant and dip. He tried to force an abortion on

1643
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 1: her and accused her of cheating the whole shebang. When

1644
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 1: she had the baby, she had a DNA test done

1645
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 1: and sued him for child support. The entire time, he

1646
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 1: was slating her name, making her feel horrible, tried to

1647
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 1: force her to put her son off for adoption. When

1648
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 1: the sun was five months old, he passed away due

1649
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 1: to an undetected medical issue. She was suffering and hospitalized.

1650
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:53,679
Speaker 1: Brother in law made a post about being free from

1651
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 1: the shackles of his bank draining baby mama and went

1652
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 1: on a partying streak to celebrate. Insists that she's a

1653
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 1: bad mom even now and has never once visited his

1654
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 1: son's grave and even skipped his funeral. Didn't tell his

1655
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 1: own family members that he'd passed away, and they also

1656
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 1: missed his funeral. My husband effing hates him. He ended

1657
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 1: up having to work over time to help pay for

1658
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 1: the funeral as a fifteen year old because brother in

1659
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 1: law refuse to step up. He doesn't even acknowledge his son.

1660
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 1: My sister in law is still recovering no thanks to him,

1661
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 1: but has welcomed a baby girl in the past year

1662
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 1: and she is an amazing mom. The term bad blood

1663
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 1: is an understatement that is a crazy offshoot off. So wait,

1664
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 1: so it was basically Opie's sister in law and the

1665
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 1: soon to be brother in law dated in high school.

1666
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 4: Right, so the two of her siblings in laws used

1667
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 4: to date and one who's about to be and she

1668
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 4: absolutely so her husband's sister, yeah, right, which is kind

1669
01:14:57,160 --> 01:15:00,640
Speaker 4: of like, is Opie not warning her husband's and her

1670
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 4: sister's almost husband, right, So wouldn't she be warning her sister, like, Hey,

1671
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 4: don't be with this guy. I don't know.

1672
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he probably already knows. Yeah, But maybe that's

1673
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 1: why they're so anti kid, Like, maybe the sister is like, kids,

1674
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 1: I'm glad that you didn't go to this little shit's funeral.

1675
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 4: God. I mean that they kind of do sound like

1676
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 4: they're made for each other a little.

1677
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 1: Bit, like, which maybe is why Opie is like definitely

1678
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 1: doesn't want to go to the wedding because it seems

1679
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:39,479
Speaker 1: like her sister. If her sister wants to marry this dude,

1680
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 1: does that say something about her own values? I kind

1681
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 1: of feel like it does. I think it does too.

1682
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 1: This makes me think that op is not an a

1683
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:47,839
Speaker 1: hole for not going to the wedding.

1684
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 4: So really the only thing here is like she was

1685
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 4: pointing at like the fact that oh, there's no children allowed,

1686
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 4: when in reality, she probably just doesn't want to go

1687
01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:59,719
Speaker 4: and like doesn't want to be around them. Right. Yes,

1688
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 4: maybe she's not being like fully honest per se, But

1689
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 4: like at the end of the day. I feel like,

1690
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 4: if you know, I mean, the sister sounds like not

1691
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 4: fun to be around and not someone that you want

1692
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 4: to like spend time with. But also maybe she, like

1693
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 4: the sister herself, hasn't done anything as heinous, so.

1694
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 1: Help by association.

1695
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, this relationship seems to be in this weird limbo

1696
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 4: phase of like being siblings together or not.

1697
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's very complicated. It's very very complicated. Is

1698
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 1: anyone child free in the audience, but like not like

1699
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 1: child free is like, oh I don't have kids, but

1700
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 1: like child free is, and like I don't have kids

1701
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 1: and I never want kids. Yeah, I would love to

1702
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 1: know in the comments what you think, because I want kids.

1703
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 1: Please me too. I don't want kids.

1704
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 4: We just want a little That's our next round of

1705
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 4: podcast hosts, you know, keep it in the family.

1706
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 1: In the family. We're going to train them well John

1707
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 1: and Sam John go to school, They're just going to

1708
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:52,679
Speaker 1: become that podcast host.

1709
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's going to.

1710
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 1: Be their whole lively.

1711
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 4: Mighty for my Daddy's podcast.

1712
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, good jobs, good job. All right, let's get into

1713
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 1: the next one.

1714
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 4: I kicked my brother in law is family to the streets.

1715
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 4: Their kids are dirty, and I don't want them. Am

1716
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 4: I the a hole?

1717
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1718
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 1: They belong in the streets where the dirt is.

1719
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,600
Speaker 4: That's right, you know, back to nature, you know what

1720
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 4: I mean, Back to the fucking forest, that's right. So

1721
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 4: my husband's brother thirty five male and his wife twenty

1722
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 4: six female, have two boys, four and three. They moved

1723
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 4: in with me and my husband, both thirty last month

1724
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 4: because they got evicted. Sorry to hear that I never

1725
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 4: wanted them here in the first place due to past issues,

1726
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:34,559
Speaker 4: But after speaking with my husband, we decided for the

1727
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 4: sake of the young children to give them a place

1728
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:39,639
Speaker 4: to stay. Before they moved in, we set some ground

1729
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 4: rules such as my brother in law must be actively

1730
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:49,639
Speaker 4: job searching, and they must respect capital riespectou four, our space,

1731
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:53,679
Speaker 4: and clean up after themselves. Unfortunately, in the past month,

1732
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 4: they have begin to slowly destroy my home and my

1733
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 4: space without giving two shits. First of all, my sister

1734
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 4: and is an extremely picky eater, so their family doesn't

1735
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 4: eat with us fine red flag, red flag. But they

1736
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 4: never ever clean up after themselves, constantly leaving dirty dishes, pans, crumbs,

1737
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 4: food stains, all that garbage. When I tell them to

1738
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 4: clean up after themselves. They begrudgingly do it, but it's

1739
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 4: never a job well done. Last week, one of the

1740
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 4: boys Peede on my very expensive couch. Peede on how

1741
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:28,639
Speaker 4: old are these boys? Three and four? He's eighteen. She's like, yeah,

1742
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 4: freaking Peede on his couch. Yeah, I'm drunk. No for

1743
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 4: the boys. Take this, Auntie. Ye it was so white

1744
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 4: it looked like a urinal. I swear I couldn't even

1745
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 4: tell yeh what if that is? The three year old?

1746
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:44,679
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, I just got wiz up some juicy

1747
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:48,599
Speaker 4: with the boys. Where's palace? Oh God, dude, that sucks,

1748
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 4: which I only found out about after smelling piss when

1749
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 4: I was watching TV. Sister in law is a stay

1750
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 4: at home mom, but she's more like a stay in

1751
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 4: her room doing god knows what while her two children

1752
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 4: run rampant around my house. In the last three weeks,

1753
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 4: her boys have one colored on their bedroom walls, two

1754
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:11,719
Speaker 4: trash the living room with their toys, and three knocked

1755
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 4: over half of my plant collection. Their whole family has

1756
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 4: turned my house into an effing zoo while contributing nothing.

1757
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 4: I have not been able to comfortably live in my

1758
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 4: own space for the past few weeks. My husband could

1759
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 4: sense my frustration, so he told me he'd have a

1760
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 4: talk with them and hire a maid to clean the house,

1761
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:30,719
Speaker 4: and things got a little better.

1762
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 1: I would hope, so until Oh no, thanks John, thanks

1763
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 1: for the until you're welcome.

1764
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:38,839
Speaker 4: Yesterday, I get home from work early and the family

1765
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 4: is gone good. I think peace and quiet for a

1766
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 4: few hours. I decided to take a nap in my bedroom,

1767
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 4: only to find that my precious vase that my mother

1768
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 4: handmade for me was shattered on the ground. No, this

1769
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 4: is tough. I lost my mom when I was a teen.

1770
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 4: Oh and it is one of the last handmade items

1771
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:00,200
Speaker 4: that I have from her.

1772
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 1: That is tragic.

1773
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 4: You would think if someone gave me their house to

1774
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 4: like live in, I would be like cleaning on my

1775
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 4: absolute best behavior.

1776
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 1: Let John stay in your house. Everything will be fixed.

1777
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 1: It will smell like peaches and roses. When John's done

1778
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:15,640
Speaker 1: with it, I will crawl into your room at three

1779
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 1: am and whisper.

1780
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 4: Read its stories into your air. That's what you want,

1781
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 4: Oh God. I immediately knew it was the boys because

1782
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 4: there were toys inside my room and their tablet was

1783
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 4: on my bed. I was so angry I ended up

1784
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:31,080
Speaker 4: calling my husband explaining the situation, and told them that

1785
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 4: they would not stay another day in our house, no

1786
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 4: questions asked. Then I went around the house picking up

1787
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 4: their dirty clothes, toys, papers, and threw them outside onto

1788
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 4: our lawn. When they came back, there was a huge

1789
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 4: confrontation between me and them. I listed all of the

1790
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 4: disrespectful things that they've done, and that because they'd met

1791
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 4: none of the conditions outlined when they first moved in,

1792
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:56,719
Speaker 4: I wanted them off my property by midnight. I called

1793
01:20:56,760 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 4: their kids untrained dogs. All right, zoy's just we tak

1794
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 4: it a little far, a little far, they screamed back,

1795
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 4: calling me heartless, cruel and evil, saying that I'd make

1796
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,640
Speaker 4: them homeless. Well, they did end up leaving after I

1797
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 4: threatened to call the cops. Husband is fully on my side,

1798
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 4: but I can tell that he feels a little bad.

1799
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 4: Mother in law called me upset, asking me to take

1800
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 4: them back in after I quote unquote forced them to

1801
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 4: sleep in their car last night. Am I the a

1802
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 4: hole boy? This is a tough one.

1803
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I mean they're obviously not respecting the house

1804
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 1: and they've had multiple warnings. Yes, so I think it's

1805
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:38,760
Speaker 1: not unreasonable to kick them out. Would I call their

1806
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 1: children untrained dogs? No, it's too much, that's a little far.

1807
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 1: But kicking them out, like, yeah, they're also three and four,

1808
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:48,879
Speaker 1: But it sounds like the mom is not doing anything

1809
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 1: to help. It sounds like the kids are untrained, untrained children.

1810
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 1: I can't blame Op for being a little emotional. That

1811
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 1: connection to the mom was shattered, So I don't think

1812
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:01,799
Speaker 1: Op is the asshole.

1813
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 4: I definitely give her like much more of a pass.

1814
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:07,599
Speaker 4: But the untrained dogs thing is kind of like, to

1815
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 4: re say it in a way that's actually useful. It's like,

1816
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 4: you literally do not parent your children. You're not there,

1817
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 4: you're locked in the room. That would at least let

1818
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:15,599
Speaker 4: her know like.

1819
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 1: You're doing something wrong and this is what you can

1820
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 1: do to fix it. Untrained dogs is just insult. Yeah yeah, yeah,

1821
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:23,639
Speaker 1: So maybe cool it on the untrained dogs. Maybe maybe,

1822
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 1: But uh, what would you do in this situation? Also?

1823
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:28,600
Speaker 1: Have you ever had any house guests that have overstayed

1824
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 1: their welcome?

1825
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:31,719
Speaker 4: I feel like there's some pretty crazy house guest stories that.

1826
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 1: We want to hear them, So put them in the

1827
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:35,719
Speaker 1: comments below and just remember, you know you can stay

1828
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:38,599
Speaker 1: in the house of the okop fam. Anytime you want,

1829
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 1: you know, put a little tent in the commons. Maybe

1830
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:43,719
Speaker 1: we'll you know, put a blow up mattress in there. Yeah,

1831
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 1: stay there for a while. Talk to each other, talk

1832
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 1: to us, talk to us because we love you so

1833
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:49,040
Speaker 1: very much.

1834
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 4: We really do.

1835
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 1: We love you.

1836
01:22:52,680 --> 01:23:01,639
Speaker 4: Very much, so very much, very much. See you next. Time.

1837
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 4: My wife bowed my best friend, I refuse to forgive them,

1838
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 4: and I'm plotting to ruin their lives? Am I the

1839
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:12,719
Speaker 4: a whole? So Pooped? My former best friend and Sarah

1840
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 4: have been like family to my wife and I for

1841
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 4: several years, practically ever since we moved in across the

1842
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:21,719
Speaker 4: street from them. The four of us were extremely tight.

1843
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 4: That wasn't the only thing that was tight. Hey, our

1844
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 4: kids are the same age as theirs and all are

1845
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:30,639
Speaker 4: good friends. We are one big family union. We did

1846
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 4: dinner together a few times a week, We went on

1847
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 4: vacations together. I truly saw Poophead as a brother and

1848
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 4: my wife and Sarah were very close. To Five months ago,

1849
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 4: I was completely blindsided by the discovery of an affair

1850
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 4: between my wife and Pooped. My wife had left her

1851
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 4: email open on her computer and I saw an email

1852
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 4: from cheating over email people did. I saw an email

1853
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 4: from her longtime therapist saying that poop Head would be

1854
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 4: joining her at an upcoming session. Again, wait, why is

1855
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 4: Poophead going to I thought, uh, WTF. My mind started

1856
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 4: racing why in the world would Pooped be going into

1857
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 4: her therapy sessions without my knowledge. I did a search

1858
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 4: and found some other emails from the therapist, proving that

1859
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 4: Pooped had been going to sessions together with her for

1860
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 4: about six weeks. What it is getting weirder? I checked

1861
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 4: our mobile phone account and discovered that since late summer,

1862
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 4: they had been exchanging hundreds of texts every day, peaking

1863
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 4: at nearly five hundred per day by the holidays. How

1864
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 4: do you even send that many texts? That's like all day.

1865
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 4: You just got to be like, oh, just like constantly

1866
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:40,679
Speaker 4: sending back and forth. Speaking of the holidays, my wife

1867
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 4: and I hosted both of our families, parents, siblings, et

1868
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 4: cetera for both Thanksgiving and Christmas dinner, and Pooped and

1869
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 4: Sarah joined us either for dinner or after dinner on

1870
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:51,440
Speaker 4: both holidays.

1871
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:52,479
Speaker 1: Is Sarah no, though?

1872
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 4: That's the question. Text records showed the entire time that

1873
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 4: they were at our house, celebrating with our families. My

1874
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 4: wife and pooped were text each other from across the room.

1875
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 4: They were doing that pretty much every time the four

1876
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:07,840
Speaker 4: of us hung out for months, and you know, all

1877
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 4: day every day, just in general. But what bothers me

1878
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:13,360
Speaker 4: the most is that they were doing it with Sarah

1879
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 4: and I right, Oh my god, probably made it hotter. Yeah,

1880
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:21,680
Speaker 4: so warm. I confronted my wife with evidence, and she

1881
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 4: admitted that, yes, she and poop Head had fallen in love.

1882
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:29,599
Speaker 4: It just happened. I don't know how, but I love him,

1883
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 4: and I just don't feel anything for you.

1884
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 1: Anymore, anything anything. I'm so sorry you feel nothing for

1885
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:36,639
Speaker 1: the father of your children.

1886
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 4: They had gone on a school district trip together, something

1887
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:42,679
Speaker 4: had happened in her hotel room, and things had moved

1888
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:43,720
Speaker 4: quickly from there.

1889
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:46,840
Speaker 1: Oh god, I'm so sorry. Ope, that sucks.

1890
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 4: She explained as I lay face down on the couch,

1891
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:51,880
Speaker 4: unable to look at her, that they had already made

1892
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 4: plans to move out and divorce me and Sarah, and

1893
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 4: while they didn't plan to move in together immediately because

1894
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 4: of the kids, they'd probably do so event Oh. The

1895
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:04,679
Speaker 4: meetings with the therapists were supposedly mostly for the purpose

1896
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:06,680
Speaker 4: of finding a way to break this to me and

1897
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 4: Sarah as gently as possible, because they were so very

1898
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:12,679
Speaker 4: concerned for our well being.

1899
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 1: I know I'm stabbing you in the heart right now,

1900
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 1: but I'm really concerned about like taking out the night,

1901
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:18,640
Speaker 1: So like, how do you want me to do it?

1902
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 1: Do you want me to twist?

1903
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 4: Sarah and I are fairly certain that they weren't planning

1904
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 4: on telling us about the affair at all, and we're

1905
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 4: simply going to discover their feelings for one another several

1906
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:30,760
Speaker 4: months down the line, after they'd come up with some

1907
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:34,759
Speaker 4: other reason to divorce the doors. Yeah, oh my god,

1908
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:37,640
Speaker 4: my wife moved out two months ago. I was and

1909
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 4: still am utterly destroyed. I cry every day. I cried

1910
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 4: writing the first few paragraphs of the story just now.

1911
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 4: I worry NonStop about the impact on our kids. But

1912
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 4: I'm also not exactly a shrinking violet when I feel

1913
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 4: that I've been wronged, and in this case, I was

1914
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 4: objectively very very wronged. You are correct, Opie, very very wrong.

1915
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 4: So a couple of weeks ago, Hooped ran for a

1916
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:06,640
Speaker 4: Board of Education seat as a pretty extreme underdog. I

1917
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 4: helped him with his campaign materials and debate prep and

1918
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 4: my wife as a well known school district employee. This

1919
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:13,719
Speaker 4: becomes important later.

1920
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 1: Oh oh, I sent some vengeance of Ruin.

1921
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 4: Well. She got the word out the best she could,

1922
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 4: Much to our surprise, he actually won in a squeaker

1923
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 4: by just a few dozen votes. Being on the board

1924
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:28,599
Speaker 4: became the center of Pooped's world. He joined every committee

1925
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 4: that he could. This turned into the foundation of his

1926
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 4: affair with my wife, as they were constantly going to

1927
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:39,479
Speaker 4: school events and meeting together on evenings and weekends. Oh Man,

1928
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 4: Once I discovered the affair, my thoughts turned pretty quickly

1929
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 4: to revenge. Nice. It occurred to me that the extramarital

1930
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 4: affair between a member of the Board of Education and

1931
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:53,639
Speaker 4: an employee of the school districts probably doesn't look too good. Yeah,

1932
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:57,719
Speaker 4: that was at least bad politics and possibly violated district policy.

1933
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:00,040
Speaker 4: Making things far worse for them was that my my

1934
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 4: wife was in the running for an open administration position,

1935
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 4: and everyone knew that she was more or less guaranteed

1936
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 4: the job and the major pay raise that came with it.

1937
01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 4: Oh Man. She had just finished her master's degree in

1938
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:15,680
Speaker 4: school administration at the urging of her principle and the

1939
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:19,679
Speaker 4: superintendent so that she could be promoted to this specific position.

1940
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 1: Oh peas have to plan to bring it.

1941
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:25,759
Speaker 4: Oh God. I had plenty of evidence of the affair,

1942
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 4: texts from both of them admitting to it, text records

1943
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 4: showing that they were texting hundreds of times a day.

1944
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 1: There's texting about work.

1945
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 4: I considered simply emailing all the evidence of the board

1946
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 4: and the superintendent, but I felt like, as the grieving

1947
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:40,600
Speaker 4: betrayed spouse, that I might not be seen as a

1948
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 4: credible source. So instead I invented a fictitious, furious friend

1949
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:47,679
Speaker 4: who was planning on showing up to the next board

1950
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 4: meeting and publicly shaming the two of them for their affair.

1951
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 4: I told my wife that I tried to talk this

1952
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 4: person down, but couldn't guarantee that they wouldn't show up

1953
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:59,599
Speaker 4: and humiliate them publicly as I expected. This led Pooped

1954
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:02,280
Speaker 4: to conclclude that the only option was for him to

1955
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 4: preemptively admit the affair to the board directly. Wow. The

1956
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 4: superintendent subsequently recommended that Pooped resign, which he did. Sarah

1957
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 4: said that he was utterly humiliated and crushed and barely

1958
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 4: got out of bed for a few days. Afterwards. Once

1959
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 4: word of the affair and Pooped's resignation started getting around

1960
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:26,800
Speaker 4: the superintendent, a longtime friend of both my wife and

1961
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:30,640
Speaker 4: Pooped contacted my wife and tearfully informed her that it

1962
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 4: was no longer politically appropriate for her to be promoted

1963
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:36,880
Speaker 4: to an administrative position within the district.

1964
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:38,720
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, they deserve it.

1965
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 4: My wife and I, despite our crumbling marriage, took our

1966
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:44,280
Speaker 4: son out to breakfast together on his birthday, and a

1967
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:47,160
Speaker 4: parent stopped by our table to congratulate her on her

1968
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 4: new role. She said thanks, then excused herself to go

1969
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 4: cry in the bathroom for a while. I let the

1970
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:54,559
Speaker 4: dust settle for a couple of weeks, and then, right

1971
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 4: before my wife moved out, let them in on my

1972
01:29:57,479 --> 01:30:01,599
Speaker 4: little secret. There was never a few curious friend threatening

1973
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:04,720
Speaker 4: to expose them in the first place. It was me

1974
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 4: a word of all of us had gotten around our

1975
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:10,600
Speaker 4: fairly small town, which Pooped grew up in and my

1976
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:14,879
Speaker 4: wife worked in for nearly twenty years. My wife refuses

1977
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 4: to talk to me about how things are at work

1978
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:19,000
Speaker 4: right now, but I've heard from some people I know

1979
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:22,679
Speaker 4: in the district that her formerly spotless reputation has taken

1980
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:26,960
Speaker 4: a major hit checks out. Hooop, had formerly a gregarious

1981
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:29,559
Speaker 4: social presence in our neighborhood and at events in pubs

1982
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 4: in town, has completely gone underground and emerges only to

1983
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 4: bow his lawnch He's moving out soon to a crappy

1984
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:39,200
Speaker 4: little townhouse, which is all he can afford due to

1985
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:41,639
Speaker 4: all the child support he's going to have to pay

1986
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 4: his wife. Nice my wife and Poopeed claim that they

1987
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:47,800
Speaker 4: plan on trying to make things work together despite all

1988
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:50,920
Speaker 4: the public humiliation. I wish them lots of luck with that.

1989
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:53,320
Speaker 4: I'm sure that it will be a lot of fun

1990
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:56,439
Speaker 4: to show their faces in town together again.

1991
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 1: Dude, that's the rough part of living in a small town.

1992
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 1: You can't just escape your ship. If you fuck up.

1993
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:05,439
Speaker 1: It is everywhere. That's that's and it's like what can

1994
01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 1: you do from there? Like anytime, it's like it's like

1995
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:09,120
Speaker 1: a towns.

1996
01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 4: It's like a celebrity being canceled and you like see

1997
01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:13,320
Speaker 4: him on the street and you're like, fuck you, oh man,

1998
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:15,360
Speaker 4: oh Jonah Hill.

1999
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:17,559
Speaker 1: He's like one of those celebrities that like, I think

2000
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm cooler to them.

2001
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 4: Hey, Sam, you're pretty cool. Thanks, You're way cooler than

2002
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 4: h Thanks.

2003
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 1: Sorry, Sorrio thanks far As Low though the Jonah Hill

2004
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:28,080
Speaker 1: is that's.

2005
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:30,200
Speaker 4: That is true. We're not We're not making a huge sleep.

2006
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:31,200
Speaker 4: But that's okay, you know.

2007
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:33,840
Speaker 1: Oh man, I feel even bad saying that. It feels

2008
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 1: like I'm punching down punch the family I babysit for

2009
01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:41,639
Speaker 1: shared private videos of me behind my back.

2010
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 4: I'm quitting today. Am I the a hole?

2011
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:47,640
Speaker 1: I've worked for a really nice, normal family for a

2012
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:50,920
Speaker 1: few months at least, I thought so. All these adjectives

2013
01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 1: are about to go down the toilet. Oh NK is

2014
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:57,000
Speaker 1: ten months old and very sweet. She's super active, though,

2015
01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:59,680
Speaker 1: and she often fights me on nappy changing. I have

2016
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:02,599
Speaker 1: a mental approach and if she rolls, slash crawls away,

2017
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 1: I just encourage her to come back, let her play

2018
01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:06,960
Speaker 1: for a moment, and then try again. So as you

2019
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:10,240
Speaker 1: can imagine, it can take a while. I can't imagine.

2020
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:14,639
Speaker 1: NF has cameras in both kids' rooms, which I don't

2021
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 1: mind and was informed of, and I was told they

2022
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:19,680
Speaker 1: were just for safety, mostly just for at night, with

2023
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:22,160
Speaker 1: the ruins being spaced out in noise dot traveling.

2024
01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:23,280
Speaker 4: He makes sense well.

2025
01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:27,240
Speaker 1: A family friend who knows NF contacted me last night

2026
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 1: showing me. Mb had shared a video of me from

2027
01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:35,200
Speaker 1: the nanny cam of me changing Nk's nappy on Facebook

2028
01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:38,280
Speaker 1: with a caption like nanny taking half an hour to

2029
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:40,480
Speaker 1: change a nappy laughing emoji.

2030
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:42,880
Speaker 4: So not only are you going to share these private

2031
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:45,559
Speaker 4: videos of me, you're also going to insult my type

2032
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:46,679
Speaker 4: of change and skills.

2033
01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:50,000
Speaker 1: There's comments basically making fun of me. One person even

2034
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 1: said to find a new nanny. She replied saying things

2035
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 1: like we love her nanny. But was in hysterics watching this,

2036
01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 1: not going to lie. I cried for an hour. Oh

2037
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:02,800
Speaker 1: I'm a very private and highly anxious person, and I

2038
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 1: feel so hurt and betrayed by mb I. Were a

2039
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:08,320
Speaker 1: part time was last there after she shared the video,

2040
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 1: and she didn't say anything. And I'm supposed to be

2041
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:13,840
Speaker 1: working on Thursday, but I'm dreading going in. I kind

2042
01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:16,000
Speaker 1: of just want to ghost her and never go back again.

2043
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:18,320
Speaker 1: I'm so humiliated and I don't know how to deal

2044
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 1: with this going forward. So these are some things that

2045
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:22,559
Speaker 1: OPI has done. I've drafted out a response, but I'm

2046
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 1: going to sleep on it and send it tomorrow. I

2047
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:27,400
Speaker 1: have no intention of returning to their house. I've started

2048
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:30,639
Speaker 1: to update my contract to make my boundaries clear, and

2049
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 1: I'm heartbroken because I love those kids, but I have

2050
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:35,960
Speaker 1: to put myself first. Thank you for helping me see that.

2051
01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 1: I guess I will update once I've sent the message

2052
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:40,599
Speaker 1: and there is an update. But what do you think?

2053
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:42,880
Speaker 4: Everyone just has like a different you know, so at

2054
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:44,680
Speaker 4: the end of the day, if someone doesn't want that,

2055
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:46,519
Speaker 4: then that's it is what it is like. You have

2056
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:47,160
Speaker 4: to respect that.

2057
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 1: So update. I've sent the message. Basically, I told her

2058
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:52,240
Speaker 1: I saw the video and that it's inappropriate for her

2059
01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:55,519
Speaker 1: to share footage of me online without my consent, that

2060
01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 1: I feel disrespected and I no longer it will be

2061
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:00,719
Speaker 1: a nanny for their family. Thanks for everyone one giving

2062
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:04,000
Speaker 1: me the courage, and there is another update. So I

2063
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:06,040
Speaker 1: let her know I was quitting, that I saw the post,

2064
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:08,120
Speaker 1: et cetera. She took a few hours to respond, and

2065
01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:12,080
Speaker 1: her response was unhinged. She told me I had no

2066
01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:15,640
Speaker 1: right snooping on our social media and the footage was

2067
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 1: of her baby, so it was fine. She asked me

2068
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 1: to please come in until she found a replacement. I

2069
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:23,759
Speaker 1: told her I was uncomfortable returning and that the video

2070
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 1: and comments really upset me. She offered to remove the cameras,

2071
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 1: but I stood strong and told her I was not

2072
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:34,519
Speaker 1: coming back. Snooping on social media? Social media is public?

2073
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:36,560
Speaker 1: What do you mean? Snooping?

2074
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:39,479
Speaker 4: Like also just a hilarious hypocrisy of like, let me

2075
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:43,479
Speaker 4: post this video of you, having no idea that you're

2076
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:45,960
Speaker 4: you know, we're recording and posting you like, but you're

2077
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:47,599
Speaker 4: snooping on me. Wait?

2078
01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:50,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of ridiculous. I asked her to remove the video,

2079
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:54,080
Speaker 1: and according to the family friend, it's been taken down. However,

2080
01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:56,000
Speaker 1: she must have blocked me, as I can't see her

2081
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:59,080
Speaker 1: Facebook anymore. I haven't heard from her since Wednesday. Thank

2082
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:01,920
Speaker 1: you again for everyone encouraging me. I'm such a non

2083
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:04,240
Speaker 1: confidential person, and I think if I didn't post here,

2084
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:06,680
Speaker 1: I would have never said anything. A nanny friend of

2085
01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:09,599
Speaker 1: mine is moving overseas, so her family has an opening

2086
01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:12,120
Speaker 1: coming up and they are amazing. My friend has let

2087
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:15,040
Speaker 1: them know I'm looking, and so I may have a

2088
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 1: new family already.

2089
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:19,639
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think it's the best possible outcome that could

2090
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:21,040
Speaker 4: have happened in this Yeah.

2091
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:24,840
Speaker 1: I mean it's definitely weird too. I mean, I don't

2092
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:29,840
Speaker 1: know I can see wanting to post videos of your kids.

2093
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 4: But because think about this too, going both ways. Like

2094
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:36,719
Speaker 4: imagine there's like a nanny, probably younger you know, maybe

2095
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:38,720
Speaker 4: like early college age, high school age or whatever, and

2096
01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:40,719
Speaker 4: then she's like taking videos of the baby and stuff,

2097
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:43,840
Speaker 4: and then it just starts like uploading it and you're like, ah, like,

2098
01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:45,760
Speaker 4: I you know, don't know if I want you know

2099
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:47,519
Speaker 4: what I mean, Like, I feel like it's the apparently

2100
01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 4: ask you have to ask, and especially yeah, especially in

2101
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:54,479
Speaker 4: an environment like that where you're like, I don't know,

2102
01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:57,519
Speaker 4: it's just like changing into a baby, like it just yeah,

2103
01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 4: feels a little weird, an even weirder, you know. Well,

2104
01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:05,479
Speaker 4: I mean in terms of recording people that don't want

2105
01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 4: to be recorded. I was in Amish country and I

2106
01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:11,120
Speaker 4: went into a store of a non Amish guy. It

2107
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:13,840
Speaker 4: was like the only store open on Sunday, and I

2108
01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:16,080
Speaker 4: was like, hey, I'm just like you know, and then

2109
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:18,559
Speaker 4: he looks at my camera and he's like he like

2110
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:19,320
Speaker 4: has like a thick action.

2111
01:36:19,439 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 1: He's like, are you recording?

2112
01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:22,120
Speaker 4: I mean like yeah, I said I was making a

2113
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:23,880
Speaker 4: video and he's like shut that down. Now.

2114
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:26,599
Speaker 1: I'm like okay, and I like shut it down and like, hey, sorry,

2115
01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 1: I didn't didn't be able to do anything. He's like,

2116
01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:30,599
Speaker 1: I will call my lawyer right now. I will call

2117
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:32,600
Speaker 1: my lawyer right now. I know who you are and

2118
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 1: I know what you do. And I'm like, I have

2119
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:37,160
Speaker 1: no idea who you think. I yeah, I doubt it

2120
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:39,639
Speaker 1: a little yeah, And he's like, I will call my lawyer.

2121
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:41,200
Speaker 1: I will call my lad Like all right, dude, Like

2122
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:43,880
Speaker 1: I'm leaving, and he starts like yelling at me and

2123
01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:47,040
Speaker 1: berating me. Right, I go out of his little shop,

2124
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:49,400
Speaker 1: which like I was about to buy something he just drove.

2125
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:53,160
Speaker 1: But I go out of his shop. I'm walking down

2126
01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:56,080
Speaker 1: the street and then I come back and then he

2127
01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:59,840
Speaker 1: is pacing outside of his store. Then locks eyes with

2128
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:03,559
Speaker 1: and starts running across the street like fist clenched, and

2129
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, dude, I don't want to talk to you.

2130
01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:06,920
Speaker 4: He's like, I know who you are, I know what

2131
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:08,200
Speaker 4: you do. I know who you are.

2132
01:37:08,360 --> 01:37:10,240
Speaker 1: I know what you do, and starts like yelling and

2133
01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:12,559
Speaker 1: yelling and yelling, and I'm like, dude, don't talk to me.

2134
01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:14,639
Speaker 1: And I was with my friend Bryce and he started

2135
01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:16,880
Speaker 1: talking to the guy and he's like, hey, like, don't worry,

2136
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:18,719
Speaker 1: We're not gonna put you in the video, like tries

2137
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:20,360
Speaker 1: to calm him down, but I was just like not

2138
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:22,200
Speaker 1: trying to engauge because it looked like he was about

2139
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:24,360
Speaker 1: to swing at me. But he was pissed.

2140
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:28,840
Speaker 4: That was in public. Wild yeah, wild, crazy interaction.

2141
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:29,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was nuts.

2142
01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:33,120
Speaker 4: It was nuts coming soon to the man that attacks

2143
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:38,280
Speaker 4: YouTube video. Just kidding, but uh wow, what did Yeah?

2144
01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:41,080
Speaker 4: I wonder if anyone else has any like stories along

2145
01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:42,160
Speaker 4: those lines of like.

2146
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:43,559
Speaker 1: Either who are being recorded?

2147
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:45,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, I people were recording, maybe even like by accident,

2148
01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:47,600
Speaker 4: you know, you're recording your friend, or like someone just

2149
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:51,799
Speaker 4: does something something weird on the accidental exposures record.

2150
01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:54,639
Speaker 1: Weird about being like online too. It's true, It's true,

2151
01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 1: we are not. So let's share this video with all

2152
01:37:56,960 --> 01:37:57,920
Speaker 1: your friends, please do.

2153
01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:01,519
Speaker 4: I opened up to my boyfriend about my past sugar daddy,

2154
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:03,760
Speaker 4: and he didn't take it well. And now I might

2155
01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:04,960
Speaker 4: lose my job.

2156
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:07,320
Speaker 1: What is your job being a sugar mama?

2157
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:09,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, sugar baby, yeah yeah yeah.

2158
01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:13,439
Speaker 1: My boyfriend is mad that I'm currently exchanging sexual favors

2159
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:14,679
Speaker 1: for my sugar daddy.

2160
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:18,599
Speaker 4: So I thirty six female was fortunate to have a

2161
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 4: long and loving marriage to a wonderful man for twelve years. Sadly,

2162
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:25,760
Speaker 4: he passed away in a car accident two years ago,

2163
01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:29,360
Speaker 4: just before the beginning of the pandemic. Between grieving and

2164
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:31,840
Speaker 4: the pandemic, I did not date it at all for

2165
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:34,200
Speaker 4: about a year and a half, but decided to try

2166
01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:36,599
Speaker 4: to get out there and meet some people this past summer.

2167
01:38:36,720 --> 01:38:39,240
Speaker 4: Once it was over. Online dating was just kind of

2168
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:42,040
Speaker 4: a bust, but in the fall I connected with Joe,

2169
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:44,880
Speaker 4: thirty seven, male who works at the same large company

2170
01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:47,479
Speaker 4: as me, but in a completely different department. We're not

2171
01:38:47,520 --> 01:38:49,840
Speaker 4: in the same chain of command, and our paths do

2172
01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:51,960
Speaker 4: not cross at all in terms of our work. We

2173
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:54,200
Speaker 4: just met at the employee Jim. We had lunch a

2174
01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:57,280
Speaker 4: few times and ultimately decided to start spending time together

2175
01:38:57,360 --> 01:39:00,960
Speaker 4: outside of work, evolving into a relationship we agreed to

2176
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:07,040
Speaker 4: describe as committed casual. Committed casual I had never heard

2177
01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:10,320
Speaker 4: that term before. I guess it's like we're exclusively hooking

2178
01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:13,120
Speaker 4: up with each other, but we're not putting any labels

2179
01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:15,400
Speaker 4: on it, right, Like you're my side piece, but my

2180
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:19,120
Speaker 4: one and only side piece. Yeah, exactly, as in monogamous,

2181
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:22,360
Speaker 4: but just having fun and not planning for a future together.

2182
01:39:22,439 --> 01:39:25,200
Speaker 4: We initially decided to do things this way because Joe

2183
01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:28,639
Speaker 4: is relocating this summer to another company office across the country,

2184
01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:31,400
Speaker 4: so with an expiration date looming, we wanted to enjoy

2185
01:39:31,439 --> 01:39:35,000
Speaker 4: each other's company without any particular expectations. This worked well

2186
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:37,640
Speaker 4: for me too, because a big part of me was

2187
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:41,120
Speaker 4: still grieving my husband, and as of a few months ago,

2188
01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:43,639
Speaker 4: I was not ready to think of a lifelong commitment

2189
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:48,160
Speaker 4: to anyone else, which is like, very very standable. Honestly.

2190
01:39:48,439 --> 01:39:50,800
Speaker 4: About a week ago, Joe told me that he was

2191
01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:53,240
Speaker 4: really falling for me and might want to rethink the

2192
01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:57,439
Speaker 4: casual categorization that always happens.

2193
01:39:57,479 --> 01:40:00,640
Speaker 1: Happens, we can't keep casual casual? Why already is going

2194
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 1: to want to dress up for the occasion?

2195
01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:07,480
Speaker 4: Oh goodness? I told him I was feeling the same way.

2196
01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:11,800
Speaker 4: Where's the sugar sugar baby ness coming in? Well, we

2197
01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:14,439
Speaker 4: get ready, because I'm about to sprinkle you with all

2198
01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:17,479
Speaker 4: kinds of sugar, buddy, wrinkle it. But that I had

2199
01:40:17,479 --> 01:40:20,480
Speaker 4: to tell him something about my past, with the understanding

2200
01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:24,800
Speaker 4: that it might be a deal breaker. Specifically, I had

2201
01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:29,600
Speaker 4: a very rough upbringing with parents who were both addicts alcoholics,

2202
01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:32,080
Speaker 4: and instead of going in a bad direction, I threw

2203
01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 4: myself into school and I managed to graduate early from

2204
01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:37,680
Speaker 4: high school and got a full scholarship to college at

2205
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:38,519
Speaker 4: the age of sixteen.

2206
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:40,960
Speaker 1: Dude, that's a really big secret that she just shared,

2207
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:43,160
Speaker 1: really big, dark, deep secret.

2208
01:40:43,320 --> 01:40:45,760
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean it sounds like pretty that she pulled

2209
01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:49,160
Speaker 4: herself out and you know, yeah, I mean it's a

2210
01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:52,840
Speaker 4: very positive, very positive secret to keep myself A deep

2211
01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:53,439
Speaker 4: dark secret.

2212
01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:55,519
Speaker 1: Yeah right, where's the actual secret? I want to hear it.

2213
01:40:55,880 --> 01:40:59,160
Speaker 4: However, when I got to college, despite having my tuition

2214
01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:01,920
Speaker 4: room and born covered, I was still broke and didn't

2215
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:05,000
Speaker 4: have enough money for things like clothes and toiletries, et cetera.

2216
01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:07,880
Speaker 4: I really struggled for the first couple of months. Due

2217
01:41:07,880 --> 01:41:10,599
Speaker 4: to my age being under eighteen, I was turned down

2218
01:41:10,680 --> 01:41:13,320
Speaker 4: for the on campus jobs I applied for. Oh that

2219
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:16,639
Speaker 4: absolutely sucks. The father of one of my college friends.

2220
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:21,120
Speaker 4: Oh oh daddy, a divorced man in his forties who

2221
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:24,439
Speaker 4: lived in the local town, noticed my difficulties and uh

2222
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:28,000
Speaker 4: offered to help me out in a little bit. Yeah

2223
01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:29,040
Speaker 4: just okay, out.

2224
01:41:28,880 --> 01:41:29,800
Speaker 1: Of the kindness of his heart.

2225
01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:32,519
Speaker 4: Right, Oh yeah, we just what a sweet man. Oh,

2226
01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:37,000
Speaker 4: she's under age, she's seventeen. I realized now that he

2227
01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:40,719
Speaker 4: was grooming me into entering a sugar daddy slash baby

2228
01:41:40,880 --> 01:41:43,759
Speaker 4: type relationship, but I didn't see it at the time.

2229
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:44,520
Speaker 1: Yikes.

2230
01:41:44,880 --> 01:41:47,840
Speaker 4: He bought me food and clothes and mentored me while

2231
01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:50,080
Speaker 4: I had trouble in my classes and gave me a

2232
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:52,480
Speaker 4: place to go when I wanted to go off campus.

2233
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:55,680
Speaker 4: Our relationship didn't turn intimate for a few months, but

2234
01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:59,120
Speaker 4: eventually it did. Sixteen was the age of consent in

2235
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:03,040
Speaker 4: the state. Technically, this was not illegal, although morally wrong

2236
01:42:03,439 --> 01:42:09,120
Speaker 4: in retrospect, definitely weird, Yeah, very weird. It lasted throughout

2237
01:42:09,160 --> 01:42:12,320
Speaker 4: the time that I was sixteen to seventeen and really

2238
01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:15,120
Speaker 4: did help me survive. Mostly it was him buying me

2239
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:18,000
Speaker 4: practical things that I needed for school or just living,

2240
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:20,960
Speaker 4: not luxury items, with a small amount of pocket money

2241
01:42:21,120 --> 01:42:24,160
Speaker 4: twenty to forty dollars here and there. When I turned eighteen,

2242
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:27,000
Speaker 4: we mutually decided to end it, and I was able

2243
01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:29,280
Speaker 4: to get a couple part time on campus jobs.

2244
01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:29,920
Speaker 1: It's so weird.

2245
01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:35,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is very very very very predatory, like massively predatory,

2246
01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:38,080
Speaker 4: and like sixteen seventeen, like oh oh my, like a

2247
01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:41,240
Speaker 4: forty year old. I graduated at twenty and went on

2248
01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:43,840
Speaker 4: to get a master's degree and now have a good career.

2249
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:47,200
Speaker 4: I never had further contact with the older man. My

2250
01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:49,960
Speaker 4: classmate who was his daughter ended up transferring to another

2251
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:52,280
Speaker 4: college and we lost touch, although I did look him

2252
01:42:52,360 --> 01:42:55,880
Speaker 4: up online now and then over the years and understood

2253
01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:58,320
Speaker 4: that he passed away a few years ago. I never

2254
01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:01,479
Speaker 4: repeated this sort of arrangement with anyone else. I met

2255
01:43:01,479 --> 01:43:04,280
Speaker 4: my husband a couple of years after things ended with

2256
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:07,080
Speaker 4: the older guy, and he knew everything and he accepted me.

2257
01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:10,280
Speaker 4: But back to Joe, I would have completely understood him

2258
01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:13,639
Speaker 4: not wanting to have an emotionally serious relationship with someone

2259
01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:16,519
Speaker 4: who essentially made it through college as a sex worker.

2260
01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:19,400
Speaker 4: So I wasn't that surprised that he was upset and

2261
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:21,280
Speaker 4: angry and that he broke up with me.

2262
01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:25,559
Speaker 1: How about the context, Yeah, I have some and also

2263
01:43:25,600 --> 01:43:27,040
Speaker 1: like I'm not I don't know if.

2264
01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:30,160
Speaker 4: I view that as like sex worker. No, like this

2265
01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:33,360
Speaker 4: is you know, what we could dive more into in

2266
01:43:33,400 --> 01:43:36,200
Speaker 4: the end. But I think this is a very very

2267
01:43:36,439 --> 01:43:39,760
Speaker 4: benign other than from the guy's perspective.

2268
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:41,360
Speaker 1: Guy's perspective, it's weird, but.

2269
01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:45,320
Speaker 4: From her side, like I do not think that I

2270
01:43:45,360 --> 01:43:48,479
Speaker 4: think is very far from worth breaking up with someone

2271
01:43:48,479 --> 01:43:51,240
Speaker 4: else very far. But I mean, hey, he can break

2272
01:43:51,280 --> 01:43:53,680
Speaker 4: up with whoever he wants to break up with, you know. However,

2273
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:56,479
Speaker 4: I did not expect that he would go to h

2274
01:43:56,760 --> 01:44:00,240
Speaker 4: R at our mutual employer, telling them that I had

2275
01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:04,200
Speaker 4: hidden my sex work past and asked them to discipline

2276
01:44:04,240 --> 01:44:07,760
Speaker 4: me for misconduct. What what?

2277
01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:09,200
Speaker 1: It wasn't even sex work?

2278
01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:12,719
Speaker 4: This is insane. I just found out about this on Friday,

2279
01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:15,599
Speaker 4: and I am reeling. I know what I did was wrong,

2280
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:18,880
Speaker 4: at least morally speaking, but I was under eighteen and

2281
01:44:19,160 --> 01:44:22,360
Speaker 4: it was about twenty years ago. Yeah. I didn't think

2282
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:24,880
Speaker 4: that my sex life as a teenager two decades ago

2283
01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:26,639
Speaker 4: is my employer's business.

2284
01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:27,120
Speaker 1: It's not.

2285
01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:29,800
Speaker 4: It is not. I have to go in for a

2286
01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:32,120
Speaker 4: meeting about it on Tuesday, and I am just sick

2287
01:44:32,160 --> 01:44:35,120
Speaker 4: with worry that I'm gonna get fired. So I guess

2288
01:44:35,120 --> 01:44:37,760
Speaker 4: I'm just looking for opinions here, like how in the

2289
01:44:37,800 --> 01:44:40,760
Speaker 4: wrong am I should I just try to apologize to Joe?

2290
01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:43,240
Speaker 4: What should I say to my employer? I am feeling

2291
01:44:43,439 --> 01:44:47,679
Speaker 4: very lost and scared. This guy is a piece of work.

2292
01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:50,639
Speaker 4: There is an update where I think we find out

2293
01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:53,920
Speaker 4: what happens. Man like I can't. It's such it's so

2294
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:56,640
Speaker 4: weird that he went to the employer. I don't understand

2295
01:44:57,040 --> 01:45:00,599
Speaker 4: why he would do that. What an a tole Like

2296
01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:05,840
Speaker 4: I I've known people that have been in sugar Daddy situation. Yeah,

2297
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:09,559
Speaker 4: like a like a very casual like you know.

2298
01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:12,680
Speaker 1: With anything crazy that we're doing, Sugar Daddy, it.

2299
01:45:12,680 --> 01:45:14,400
Speaker 4: Kind of makes sense, especially a lot of them is

2300
01:45:14,479 --> 01:45:16,120
Speaker 4: just like go out to dinner and stuff like that,

2301
01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:18,519
Speaker 4: just like dinner paid for and look, you know what

2302
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:21,160
Speaker 4: if if he doesn't want to stay with her whatever,

2303
01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:22,600
Speaker 4: it's his it' says.

2304
01:45:22,439 --> 01:45:27,000
Speaker 1: Let's go to your employer. That is so just the employer.

2305
01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:31,360
Speaker 1: There's nothing to be done. No, no, like I don't

2306
01:45:31,400 --> 01:45:34,080
Speaker 1: even know why they're taking it seriously.

2307
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:36,240
Speaker 4: Just doesn't seem like a big deal at all to me. Yeah,

2308
01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:36,640
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2309
01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:37,680
Speaker 1: We're just so progressive.

2310
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:42,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're so woke woke Daddy's. But let's see what

2311
01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 4: happened here on this update. I know many folks requested

2312
01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:47,719
Speaker 4: an update after my meeting with HR that took place

2313
01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:51,280
Speaker 4: earlier this week. First, I did retain an attorney who

2314
01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:54,559
Speaker 4: accompanied me to the meeting. That is actually genius. That

2315
01:45:54,680 --> 01:45:58,400
Speaker 4: was really smart. Unfortunately, it didn't really help in this case.

2316
01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:02,800
Speaker 4: Is I was fired or cause Oh my god, no

2317
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:07,120
Speaker 4: severance or transition period due to the potential to bring

2318
01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:10,840
Speaker 4: scandal slash aime to the company for my past as

2319
01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:16,200
Speaker 4: a prostitute. Where's the proof? Yeah, where's the proof? Like,

2320
01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:18,800
Speaker 4: how do they have legal grounds to do this? Not

2321
01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:24,679
Speaker 4: just the proof, but also just discrimination laws, employees, employment laws.

2322
01:46:24,760 --> 01:46:27,559
Speaker 4: Like I feel like this is breaking every law, like

2323
01:46:27,880 --> 01:46:28,679
Speaker 4: multiple things.

2324
01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:31,559
Speaker 1: I don't understand how they could do that. I'm surprised

2325
01:46:31,560 --> 01:46:35,360
Speaker 1: the lawyer didn't help. I feel like there's an ability

2326
01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:36,360
Speaker 1: to have a lawsuit here.

2327
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:39,479
Speaker 4: Definitely, definitely, which hopefully is what happens, even though my

2328
01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:43,839
Speaker 4: company doesn't have a morality clause restricting sexual behavior or anything,

2329
01:46:44,120 --> 01:46:47,599
Speaker 4: even though it was twenty years ago, and even though

2330
01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:51,599
Speaker 4: it was one relationship and not ongoing escort work. Yes,

2331
01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:55,400
Speaker 4: I am exploring further legal action, both against my former

2332
01:46:55,520 --> 01:47:00,000
Speaker 4: employer and Joe, mostly against the company as I'm investigating,

2333
01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:03,599
Speaker 4: for example, if they have penalized women for their sexual

2334
01:47:03,640 --> 01:47:06,320
Speaker 4: past but not men. Yeah, if they pull this kind

2335
01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:10,519
Speaker 4: of bolt, like doesn't make sense to penalize someone for

2336
01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:13,240
Speaker 4: their sexual past. There's no proof, so many like laws

2337
01:47:13,240 --> 01:47:15,599
Speaker 4: they're breaking and so many things they're doing wrong here

2338
01:47:15,680 --> 01:47:16,080
Speaker 4: the company.

2339
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:18,719
Speaker 1: Why couldn't you just say, yeah, I had a relationship

2340
01:47:18,760 --> 01:47:19,800
Speaker 1: with a guy and he supported me.

2341
01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:20,719
Speaker 4: What is the deal?

2342
01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:22,559
Speaker 1: A lot of men support their partners.

2343
01:47:22,840 --> 01:47:25,479
Speaker 4: What's the difference between like a relationship where it's like

2344
01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:28,360
Speaker 4: we just call each other boyfriend and girlfriend? Yeah, but.

2345
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:31,840
Speaker 1: Like this is both.

2346
01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:35,240
Speaker 4: Thankfully, I've been very careful with money and have enough

2347
01:47:35,240 --> 01:47:38,240
Speaker 4: to set aside to manage for a few years if needed,

2348
01:47:38,320 --> 01:47:40,559
Speaker 4: until I can get this resolved. I know this isn't

2349
01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:42,600
Speaker 4: the most satisfying update, but I know a lot of

2350
01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:45,200
Speaker 4: people were curious about what did happen at the meeting.

2351
01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:48,200
Speaker 4: I do remain grateful for so many kind comments on

2352
01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:51,519
Speaker 4: my original post. So more info. No, I'm not going

2353
01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:54,080
Speaker 4: to name and shame in terms of the company. Wish

2354
01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:56,720
Speaker 4: I could, but after this post slash thread, I won't

2355
01:47:56,760 --> 01:48:00,160
Speaker 4: be discussing further to avoid compromising my case. Maybe way

2356
01:48:00,240 --> 01:48:04,720
Speaker 4: down the road once any legal issues are resolved. Wow.

2357
01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:09,599
Speaker 4: What a ridiculously insane thing for an employer to do.

2358
01:48:09,720 --> 01:48:12,200
Speaker 1: I know, I can't imagine that it's legal. I feel

2359
01:48:12,200 --> 01:48:13,080
Speaker 1: like they're gonna get screwed.

2360
01:48:13,160 --> 01:48:16,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would heavily suggest ope, get a second opinion

2361
01:48:16,280 --> 01:48:18,720
Speaker 4: from another lawyer. If the lawyer was like, oh, it's

2362
01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:20,800
Speaker 4: just caught like even us, Like, we're not lawyers, but

2363
01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:23,680
Speaker 4: I feel like they're making so many laws. Yeah, and

2364
01:48:23,800 --> 01:48:28,200
Speaker 4: just generally being poles. Yeah, this doesn't make any sense.

2365
01:48:28,240 --> 01:48:29,800
Speaker 4: It doesn't make any sense at all.

2366
01:48:30,200 --> 01:48:32,240
Speaker 1: But what do you think I mean? I would love

2367
01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:35,400
Speaker 1: to hear your answers to the comments. And also, who's

2368
01:48:35,400 --> 01:48:38,040
Speaker 1: been a sugar baby? We've gotta have some sugar babies

2369
01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:42,080
Speaker 1: in the comments. Uh, please share your sugar baby stories.

2370
01:48:42,280 --> 01:48:42,880
Speaker 4: Please do it?

2371
01:48:43,000 --> 01:48:43,960
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll see soon.

2372
01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:47,400
Speaker 4: So my boss thinks Mike is too big. She wants

2373
01:48:47,439 --> 01:48:50,400
Speaker 4: me to wear less revealing pants. Men and women shouldn't

2374
01:48:50,439 --> 01:48:52,400
Speaker 4: have to do that. Am I the a hole? If

2375
01:48:52,400 --> 01:48:55,240
Speaker 4: the boss is noticing, you might be packing quite a hog.

2376
01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:59,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, packing more than you should need linse Yeah.

2377
01:49:00,160 --> 01:49:03,280
Speaker 4: Actually, on that note, no better time to enter our

2378
01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:07,400
Speaker 4: wonderful guest, Abby from the Breakup Breakdown podcast. She has

2379
01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:11,320
Speaker 4: an incredible show where she literally interviews people behind the

2380
01:49:11,320 --> 01:49:15,040
Speaker 4: stories of these crazy breakup tales. It's actually quite insane. Abby.

2381
01:49:15,080 --> 01:49:17,479
Speaker 1: Can you give us one fun fact about yourself?

2382
01:49:17,479 --> 01:49:17,679
Speaker 4: Oh?

2383
01:49:17,960 --> 01:49:21,080
Speaker 5: Ooh, a fun fact? I once mc a Nelly concert.

2384
01:49:21,720 --> 01:49:23,040
Speaker 4: M c a Nelly concert.

2385
01:49:23,560 --> 01:49:26,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, my day job is I'm actually a radio host,

2386
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:28,559
Speaker 6: so sometimes I get to do like fun stuff, like

2387
01:49:28,720 --> 01:49:30,679
Speaker 6: me artists and like host concerts.

2388
01:49:30,720 --> 01:49:31,280
Speaker 5: It's a good time.

2389
01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:34,320
Speaker 4: You came ready with a fun fact. My goodness, now

2390
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:35,000
Speaker 4: I feel lame.

2391
01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:37,320
Speaker 1: We got to do fun fact.

2392
01:49:37,320 --> 01:49:39,160
Speaker 4: I'm excited to get into it. Are you all ready?

2393
01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:40,200
Speaker 1: I'm so ready, so.

2394
01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:41,320
Speaker 5: Ready to put men in their place.

2395
01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:48,519
Speaker 4: This is the battle of the vulge. I wear normal

2396
01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:50,880
Speaker 4: pants to work. Our dress code is business casual, and

2397
01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:54,120
Speaker 4: I've gotten myself sized by a reputable tailor. All of

2398
01:49:54,120 --> 01:49:56,600
Speaker 4: my slacks are chinos and are from normal brands that

2399
01:49:56,600 --> 01:50:01,640
Speaker 4: you'd find at Macy's and are a normal slash laxed fit. Yesterday,

2400
01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:04,559
Speaker 4: my boss called me into her office and told me

2401
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:07,559
Speaker 4: I would no longer be allowed to wear the pants

2402
01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:09,960
Speaker 4: I normally wear in the office and would have to

2403
01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:16,240
Speaker 4: wear something quote less revealing. Apparently my bulge is inappropriate

2404
01:50:16,240 --> 01:50:19,479
Speaker 4: for the workplace. I have a normal sized penis op

2405
01:50:20,320 --> 01:50:21,679
Speaker 4: and he's proud of it.

2406
01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:25,680
Speaker 5: I love how I'm normal. I'm below average in size.

2407
01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:29,360
Speaker 4: I actually effing measured it to make sure I wasn't crazy,

2408
01:50:29,600 --> 01:50:32,240
Speaker 4: And yes, I'm pretty close to the US average.

2409
01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:34,360
Speaker 1: I saw a guy with a two penises that we

2410
01:50:34,439 --> 01:50:36,080
Speaker 1: spaw and I just have to bring it up again.

2411
01:50:36,680 --> 01:50:38,960
Speaker 4: It was it was quite a discovery, it was. It's

2412
01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:40,320
Speaker 4: worth it's worth sharing again.

2413
01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:42,160
Speaker 5: Did you confront him about his double penis?

2414
01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:43,000
Speaker 1: How would you.

2415
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:45,200
Speaker 4: Confront someone about their double do some some locker room

2416
01:50:45,240 --> 01:50:48,080
Speaker 4: boy talk like, hey, what's a bro, nice nice double

2417
01:50:48,120 --> 01:50:49,160
Speaker 4: dog you got over there?

2418
01:50:49,240 --> 01:50:49,479
Speaker 5: Brother?

2419
01:50:50,120 --> 01:50:54,120
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, I'm just packing one of those, but I

2420
01:50:54,160 --> 01:50:58,519
Speaker 4: have one for myself a game. Would a woman with

2421
01:50:58,680 --> 01:51:02,040
Speaker 4: large breasts be told she can't wear anything but baggy clothes?

2422
01:51:02,360 --> 01:51:02,599
Speaker 5: Yes?

2423
01:51:02,720 --> 01:51:04,920
Speaker 4: Would she be told by her boss that she must

2424
01:51:04,920 --> 01:51:08,760
Speaker 4: wear nothing but restrictive sports spras to work? I doubt it,

2425
01:51:09,080 --> 01:51:11,920
Speaker 4: especially in my workplace, where women two seats down for

2426
01:51:12,080 --> 01:51:15,479
Speaker 4: me wear far more provocative clothing than my damn slacks.

2427
01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:18,519
Speaker 6: Women for years have been told what to wear and

2428
01:51:18,520 --> 01:51:20,519
Speaker 6: what to do with their bodies. So like, I think

2429
01:51:20,520 --> 01:51:22,960
Speaker 6: it's time, Like I feel like this is the feminism,

2430
01:51:23,080 --> 01:51:24,920
Speaker 6: like the feminism I've never expected.

2431
01:51:24,920 --> 01:51:27,559
Speaker 4: But I'm like here for so OPI goes back to

2432
01:51:27,640 --> 01:51:30,360
Speaker 4: his boss. I asked her what should I wear instead?

2433
01:51:30,479 --> 01:51:33,280
Speaker 4: These are my size, and she said, just go buy

2434
01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:36,639
Speaker 4: something looser or get a bigger size. I'm not rebuying

2435
01:51:36,640 --> 01:51:39,759
Speaker 4: my entire collection of work pants. Go ahead and report

2436
01:51:39,800 --> 01:51:42,160
Speaker 4: me to HR. Let's see them try and fire me

2437
01:51:42,439 --> 01:51:50,600
Speaker 4: for having too much dick. He's owning it.

2438
01:51:50,680 --> 01:51:53,200
Speaker 6: Now they're going to create an entire by law in

2439
01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:56,160
Speaker 6: the employee handbook. Be like, if you're packing, you're out

2440
01:51:56,160 --> 01:51:56,360
Speaker 6: of here.

2441
01:51:58,120 --> 01:52:01,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're packing, pack up your thing because you're Edit.

2442
01:52:01,760 --> 01:52:04,320
Speaker 4: Just to clarify, I'm aware that women have been told

2443
01:52:04,360 --> 01:52:06,680
Speaker 4: to cover up quite a bit in the workplace. I'm

2444
01:52:06,680 --> 01:52:10,519
Speaker 4: not dismissing that, just highlighting the very visible double standard

2445
01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:12,719
Speaker 4: of bodily expression in my own workplace.

2446
01:52:12,880 --> 01:52:17,480
Speaker 1: Not the only bodily expression that's very visible.

2447
01:52:15,400 --> 01:52:21,519
Speaker 4: I'm hey you, edit number two. People have been asking

2448
01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:25,439
Speaker 4: to see my pants, not just.

2449
01:52:25,400 --> 01:52:28,800
Speaker 6: Discovered like this niche kink that women have. It's like, oh,

2450
01:52:28,840 --> 01:52:30,520
Speaker 6: you get a bulge to the pants.

2451
01:52:30,240 --> 01:52:30,840
Speaker 5: Let's see it.

2452
01:52:30,920 --> 01:52:34,000
Speaker 4: Oh my god. Man should have blogged and only fans

2453
01:52:34,040 --> 01:52:37,759
Speaker 4: off this red he really we've given him the greatest

2454
01:52:37,800 --> 01:52:42,600
Speaker 4: advertising all the timeidding like the suspense is picture. He

2455
01:52:42,720 --> 01:52:45,479
Speaker 4: did not send a picture. A picture here. Let me

2456
01:52:45,560 --> 01:52:47,880
Speaker 4: let me send this to you auty, oh you said

2457
01:52:47,920 --> 01:52:49,000
Speaker 4: to me, Come on.

2458
01:52:49,400 --> 01:52:53,640
Speaker 6: This is the bulge are complaining about it looks like

2459
01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:56,519
Speaker 6: his cell phones in his pocket, right, and that's it.

2460
01:52:56,960 --> 01:52:59,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, no bulge. Not not trying to not trying to

2461
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:02,599
Speaker 1: hurt my man here, but yeah, I see no bulge.

2462
01:53:02,720 --> 01:53:05,719
Speaker 4: Note that's my member is sitting just to the right

2463
01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:07,719
Speaker 4: of the zipper. Relative to the viewer.

2464
01:53:07,960 --> 01:53:10,240
Speaker 5: We can't tell. He's like, I swear it's there.

2465
01:53:10,640 --> 01:53:12,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, right, likes anything.

2466
01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:14,360
Speaker 5: I literally see nothing.

2467
01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:18,320
Speaker 4: My boss demanded that I replace my pants.

2468
01:53:19,520 --> 01:53:21,519
Speaker 5: Who is this dominatrix boss?

2469
01:53:21,760 --> 01:53:28,439
Speaker 4: Right right? I mean she's good gravy dog here, and

2470
01:53:28,479 --> 01:53:32,320
Speaker 4: then she told me that she needed to supervise me. Well,

2471
01:53:32,400 --> 01:53:35,760
Speaker 4: I got the replacements. She's heading on him.

2472
01:53:35,920 --> 01:53:37,080
Speaker 5: She is a total creep.

2473
01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:40,680
Speaker 4: She is now on administrative leave to recap. Here's the

2474
01:53:40,680 --> 01:53:43,439
Speaker 4: original advice I got. Go to HR. Never talk to HR.

2475
01:53:43,600 --> 01:53:45,800
Speaker 4: Go talk to a lawyer. Lawyer will waste your time.

2476
01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:48,479
Speaker 4: Your pants are fine, you need new pants. She wants

2477
01:53:48,520 --> 01:53:49,920
Speaker 4: to bang you. She hates you.

2478
01:53:50,640 --> 01:53:51,679
Speaker 1: That's classic Reddit.

2479
01:53:51,760 --> 01:53:54,080
Speaker 4: After dwelling on all of my options, I settled for

2480
01:53:54,080 --> 01:53:56,639
Speaker 4: a middle of the road approach. I contacted two well

2481
01:53:56,680 --> 01:53:58,880
Speaker 4: known lawyers in my area and I got a consultation

2482
01:53:58,960 --> 01:54:01,519
Speaker 4: from them about my situation. They both thought that while

2483
01:54:01,520 --> 01:54:04,400
Speaker 4: I was sexually harassed, the case wasn't as bullet proof

2484
01:54:04,520 --> 01:54:06,920
Speaker 4: as there was little evidence and no pattern of abuse.

2485
01:54:07,160 --> 01:54:10,000
Speaker 4: They then also warned me about going to HR without

2486
01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:12,479
Speaker 4: any evidence, as it can cascade into me losing my

2487
01:54:12,600 --> 01:54:15,680
Speaker 4: job in unexpected ways. Since I needed evidence in a

2488
01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:18,160
Speaker 4: pattern of abuse, I first wanted to read up on

2489
01:54:18,200 --> 01:54:20,600
Speaker 4: what standards my company has set for managers when it

2490
01:54:20,600 --> 01:54:23,080
Speaker 4: comes to dealing with sexual harassment. I requested from our

2491
01:54:23,120 --> 01:54:26,760
Speaker 4: online learning catalog to take the sexual Harassment and Tough

2492
01:54:26,760 --> 01:54:29,840
Speaker 4: Conversations courses that are normally only required for managers. In

2493
01:54:29,840 --> 01:54:32,760
Speaker 4: the Tough Conversations module, there was a scenario where a

2494
01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:35,920
Speaker 4: male supervisor needed to ask a female employee to correct

2495
01:54:35,920 --> 01:54:38,560
Speaker 4: her work outfit as it didn't meet the company's dress code.

2496
01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:41,920
Speaker 4: This module, in plain English, states that the supervisor is

2497
01:54:41,960 --> 01:54:44,960
Speaker 4: not to intervene and refers the issue to HR. I

2498
01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:49,320
Speaker 4: assume that the inverse, a female supervisor reprimmending a male's

2499
01:54:49,360 --> 01:54:51,560
Speaker 4: outfit would follow the same standards. So I sent this

2500
01:54:51,600 --> 01:54:53,760
Speaker 4: email to my boss asking her to follow up on

2501
01:54:53,760 --> 01:54:56,200
Speaker 4: the conversation. To Boss, I want to clarify some things

2502
01:54:56,200 --> 01:54:59,040
Speaker 4: regarding my previous conversation. Please confirm whether or not. My

2503
01:54:59,160 --> 01:55:01,600
Speaker 4: understanding of the statement is correct. Oh my man is

2504
01:55:01,640 --> 01:55:02,200
Speaker 4: going in.

2505
01:55:02,120 --> 01:55:07,760
Speaker 1: Dude, that's like the corporate equivalent of you.

2506
01:55:08,200 --> 01:55:11,120
Speaker 4: My pants violated our dress code by being too tight

2507
01:55:11,160 --> 01:55:14,320
Speaker 4: and revealing my bulge. The issue pertains to all of

2508
01:55:14,360 --> 01:55:16,960
Speaker 4: my pants, not a specific subset of my wardrobe. This

2509
01:55:17,040 --> 01:55:19,400
Speaker 4: is a requirement from management and not a request. Please

2510
01:55:19,400 --> 01:55:21,960
Speaker 4: get back to me, sincerely, Op. It took over a

2511
01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:25,200
Speaker 4: full work day, but here was the response. Yes, I

2512
01:55:25,240 --> 01:55:27,280
Speaker 4: did tell you to fix your wardrobe. This is not

2513
01:55:27,720 --> 01:55:30,400
Speaker 4: a request. Take us pants off right now.

2514
01:55:30,440 --> 01:55:33,200
Speaker 5: Good gravy dominatrix coming out.

2515
01:55:34,160 --> 01:55:37,320
Speaker 4: I immediately replied to boss. If management is demanding that

2516
01:55:37,360 --> 01:55:39,680
Speaker 4: I replace such a large amount of my work clothing,

2517
01:55:39,760 --> 01:55:42,040
Speaker 4: it must be done at the expense of company name.

2518
01:55:42,160 --> 01:55:44,040
Speaker 4: Please let me know if this is possible, as we'll

2519
01:55:44,040 --> 01:55:46,440
Speaker 4: have to work something else out if it isn't. Her response,

2520
01:55:46,680 --> 01:55:48,760
Speaker 4: This can be done, but I must be with you

2521
01:55:48,840 --> 01:55:52,200
Speaker 4: to supervise your shopping. Sounds like a date, a weird

2522
01:55:52,400 --> 01:55:55,040
Speaker 4: domina trix. Weird freaking date.

2523
01:55:55,280 --> 01:55:56,400
Speaker 5: She's forcing this date.

2524
01:55:56,520 --> 01:56:00,400
Speaker 4: Best kind of dates, right, check my schedule for my availability. Lord.

2525
01:56:00,440 --> 01:56:03,600
Speaker 4: Suddenly the she wants to bang you? Theories seemed less crazy.

2526
01:56:03,640 --> 01:56:05,600
Speaker 4: I backed up the emails to a personal account and

2527
01:56:05,640 --> 01:56:08,720
Speaker 4: sent everything to HR. Less than two hours later, I

2528
01:56:08,760 --> 01:56:10,760
Speaker 4: received a phone call asking me to come to HR

2529
01:56:10,840 --> 01:56:14,600
Speaker 4: immediately and drop my work unless it was time critical.

2530
01:56:14,720 --> 01:56:16,800
Speaker 4: I complied. I was told that they were taking this

2531
01:56:16,880 --> 01:56:19,080
Speaker 4: matter very seriously, and then I should take the rest

2532
01:56:19,080 --> 01:56:21,000
Speaker 4: of the day off. I came back to work today

2533
01:56:21,120 --> 01:56:26,320
Speaker 4: and boss is gone. Uh oh, dominatrix.

2534
01:56:26,440 --> 01:56:27,400
Speaker 5: Boss got out of there.

2535
01:56:27,800 --> 01:56:30,600
Speaker 4: I was told right before lunch that she had been

2536
01:56:30,640 --> 01:56:34,160
Speaker 4: placed on administrative leave pending a full investigation, and that

2537
01:56:34,240 --> 01:56:37,160
Speaker 4: I shouldn't worry. It's against company policy to engage in

2538
01:56:37,200 --> 01:56:40,840
Speaker 4: any form of professional retaliation. I sit here now like

2539
01:56:40,920 --> 01:56:44,520
Speaker 4: a king on a porcelain throne, telling you about my

2540
01:56:44,680 --> 01:56:50,600
Speaker 4: victory during my post lunch dump. Bye bye, boss, lady. Wow,

2541
01:56:50,760 --> 01:56:55,800
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, man, Abby you you you joined on

2542
01:56:55,800 --> 01:56:58,560
Speaker 4: a doozy today. This one, this one is a dumper.

2543
01:56:59,480 --> 01:57:00,480
Speaker 4: My goodness came.

2544
01:57:00,360 --> 01:57:07,040
Speaker 5: Out swinging literally double literally. I love the OP for

2545
01:57:07,160 --> 01:57:08,920
Speaker 5: being brave enough for speaking up.

2546
01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:11,720
Speaker 6: I think men should be talking more about their issues

2547
01:57:11,760 --> 01:57:14,840
Speaker 6: so that men and women we come together and realize

2548
01:57:14,840 --> 01:57:17,040
Speaker 6: our problems aren't all that different.

2549
01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:18,560
Speaker 5: That's what we're about it.

2550
01:57:19,560 --> 01:57:29,480
Speaker 4: We're all kind of talking about Yeah Murphy presidential bid

2551
01:57:30,200 --> 01:57:34,880
Speaker 4: RW wow, beautiful word. You know that's I think that's.

2552
01:57:34,320 --> 01:57:39,520
Speaker 1: The thing though. The only thing I think, Oh, he

2553
01:57:39,680 --> 01:57:42,520
Speaker 1: should have caught the Boss a little bit more red handed.

2554
01:57:43,400 --> 01:57:44,240
Speaker 4: Sting operation.

2555
01:57:44,400 --> 01:57:47,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think sting operation. Go in with a wire,

2556
01:57:48,240 --> 01:57:52,320
Speaker 1: you know, to this pants pants show, right, and catch

2557
01:57:52,360 --> 01:57:55,040
Speaker 1: the boss in the act better yet all right, go

2558
01:57:55,120 --> 01:57:58,520
Speaker 1: to the the point of almost completion and then just say,

2559
01:57:58,920 --> 01:57:59,400
Speaker 1: got you?

2560
01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:01,280
Speaker 4: How are you want to.

2561
01:58:01,240 --> 01:58:03,320
Speaker 5: Put our victim in a compromising situation?

2562
01:58:04,760 --> 01:58:08,360
Speaker 1: That's exactly criminal to catch a criminal. It's like, it's

2563
01:58:08,400 --> 01:58:12,120
Speaker 1: like the it's like, what the catch a predator guy,

2564
01:58:12,840 --> 01:58:13,800
Speaker 1: Chris handsOn Dutch.

2565
01:58:15,160 --> 01:58:17,960
Speaker 4: That's it. That's it, Op, come on, take it a

2566
01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:18,560
Speaker 4: step further.

2567
01:58:19,480 --> 01:58:21,000
Speaker 5: And that's when I come in. I'm like, you're out

2568
01:58:21,040 --> 01:58:22,560
Speaker 5: of here, bitch. We're gonna go shooting.

2569
01:58:22,560 --> 01:58:24,800
Speaker 6: We're gonna we're shooting the four fifty Shades movie next

2570
01:58:25,080 --> 01:58:26,440
Speaker 6: there we go exactly.

2571
01:58:26,720 --> 01:58:28,480
Speaker 1: Oh man. But yeah, I think I think that the

2572
01:58:28,520 --> 01:58:32,640
Speaker 1: Boss definitely the a whole bosses for sure, very unprofessional,

2573
01:58:32,800 --> 01:58:34,880
Speaker 1: although would make great fan fiction.

2574
01:58:35,120 --> 01:58:37,360
Speaker 4: I mean she should really started only fans. Yeah, Like,

2575
01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:40,640
Speaker 4: I feel like that's our advice. Just generally, I will

2576
01:58:40,680 --> 01:58:42,840
Speaker 4: dominate go go to like the boss should go to

2577
01:58:42,840 --> 01:58:45,240
Speaker 4: people who are looking for this, like I will, I

2578
01:58:45,320 --> 01:58:50,640
Speaker 4: will at your job and tell you to go buy

2579
01:58:50,680 --> 01:58:54,440
Speaker 4: new pants because this is ridiculous. You need something for

2580
01:58:54,520 --> 01:58:57,760
Speaker 4: your for your giant schlong giant schlang. Yeah, subtly giving

2581
01:58:57,760 --> 01:58:59,839
Speaker 4: them like everybody wins in that scenario.

2582
01:59:00,680 --> 01:59:03,360
Speaker 5: That porn'll be right under double dong on porn Hub.

2583
01:59:05,560 --> 01:59:08,640
Speaker 4: Sister categories stepsister categories. Exactly.

2584
01:59:08,720 --> 01:59:11,720
Speaker 1: I told my stepdaughter that she's the reason for my divorce.

2585
01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:15,520
Speaker 1: She ruined my marriage, and now I'm going to destroy her.

2586
01:59:15,640 --> 01:59:16,480
Speaker 1: Am I the A hole?

2587
01:59:16,640 --> 01:59:19,200
Speaker 5: Destroying children I think would go under the a whole category.

2588
01:59:19,280 --> 01:59:22,360
Speaker 4: I think we should bring back corporal punishment like whipping children,

2589
01:59:22,520 --> 01:59:23,720
Speaker 4: flicking flicking.

2590
01:59:23,760 --> 01:59:25,400
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, please don't flick children.

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01:59:25,680 --> 01:59:29,640
Speaker 1: Don't be saying children. It's like I don't flig children.

2592
01:59:29,760 --> 01:59:33,320
Speaker 1: And then it's like Samuel Donner child flicker, editors, you

2593
01:59:33,320 --> 01:59:34,800
Speaker 1: know what to do.

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01:59:36,640 --> 01:59:36,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:59:37,000 --> 01:59:40,320
Speaker 1: I'm probably a major asshole here, but let me explain

2596
01:59:40,400 --> 01:59:42,960
Speaker 1: my reasoning. I came into her life six years ago

2597
01:59:43,000 --> 01:59:45,240
Speaker 1: when she was eleven. Her father is still in her

2598
01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:47,920
Speaker 1: life and visits her frequently at her house. Not a

2599
01:59:47,960 --> 01:59:50,879
Speaker 1: problem though, he's a nice guy. Her mother is not happy.

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01:59:50,960 --> 01:59:53,240
Speaker 1: She hasn't been happy for a long time. Her daughter

2601
01:59:53,440 --> 01:59:56,480
Speaker 1: is one of the worst behave kids I've ever seen,

2602
01:59:56,640 --> 01:59:59,200
Speaker 1: and it stresses my wife. We're not divorced yet. Out

2603
01:59:59,320 --> 02:00:02,080
Speaker 1: every single time, she's made it no secret that she

2604
02:00:02,200 --> 02:00:04,400
Speaker 1: hates me. It's like, it's a classic for stepdaughters to

2605
02:00:04,400 --> 02:00:05,120
Speaker 1: hate their step dads.

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02:00:05,480 --> 02:00:08,160
Speaker 4: It's how it goes. Man, she hates you. You try

2607
02:00:08,160 --> 02:00:09,720
Speaker 4: to go to Chuck E Cheese. She's like, you don't

2608
02:00:09,800 --> 02:00:10,320
Speaker 4: understand me.

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02:00:10,400 --> 02:00:13,040
Speaker 5: Maybe because you took your stepdaughter to Chuck E Cheese.

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02:00:13,120 --> 02:00:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you hate on Chuck E Cheese right now.

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02:00:14,560 --> 02:00:16,440
Speaker 5: Teenage girls do not like Chuck E Cheese.

2612
02:00:16,480 --> 02:00:17,440
Speaker 1: That is probably true.

2613
02:00:17,600 --> 02:00:19,600
Speaker 4: I was not a teenage girl, but I tried to

2614
02:00:19,600 --> 02:00:21,400
Speaker 4: go to Chuck E Cheese when I was seventeen and

2615
02:00:21,440 --> 02:00:23,600
Speaker 4: they wouldn't let me in because I was an legal adult.

2616
02:00:23,720 --> 02:00:25,400
Speaker 5: You showed up. He wanted to flick some children.

2617
02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:30,320
Speaker 1: They were like, ye here, John Fry child figure also

2618
02:00:30,400 --> 02:00:31,200
Speaker 1: flick children.

2619
02:00:31,320 --> 02:00:32,920
Speaker 4: Just sounds terrible.

2620
02:00:33,120 --> 02:00:35,640
Speaker 1: Hey, dude, I'm glad that I don't have that on

2621
02:00:35,680 --> 02:00:36,560
Speaker 1: my title anymore.

2622
02:00:36,560 --> 02:00:38,640
Speaker 4: And you've taken the crown. No child.

2623
02:00:40,920 --> 02:00:43,440
Speaker 1: I remember when she was thirteen or fourteen, I paid

2624
02:00:43,480 --> 02:00:46,400
Speaker 1: for us to go to Disneyland as a family vacation cliche.

2625
02:00:46,480 --> 02:00:48,960
Speaker 1: I know she refuses to go until it was just

2626
02:00:49,040 --> 02:00:52,960
Speaker 1: her and mother, So you pay for everything. You just

2627
02:00:53,000 --> 02:00:58,240
Speaker 1: stick back classics. Since the trip was solely to make

2628
02:00:58,280 --> 02:01:01,680
Speaker 1: her happy and was largely for already, I went along

2629
02:01:01,720 --> 02:01:02,960
Speaker 1: with it and stayed at home.

2630
02:01:05,360 --> 02:01:06,320
Speaker 4: That's amazing.

2631
02:01:06,560 --> 02:01:09,720
Speaker 1: Oh stuff like that is the norm. Oh my god.

2632
02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:12,880
Speaker 1: She'll demand her mother put her before me at it,

2633
02:01:13,000 --> 02:01:16,320
Speaker 1: as in excluding me from every family event, and my

2634
02:01:16,440 --> 02:01:19,120
Speaker 1: wife can't put her foot down. She'll treat her mother

2635
02:01:19,400 --> 02:01:22,040
Speaker 1: like a maid and nothing more. It's not my wife's fault.

2636
02:01:22,240 --> 02:01:24,760
Speaker 1: She has emotional issues that make it hard for her.

2637
02:01:24,840 --> 02:01:27,560
Speaker 1: But it's ruined the marriage because I've grown to resent

2638
02:01:27,680 --> 02:01:31,000
Speaker 1: coming home to be around my stepdaughter. Anything I do

2639
02:01:31,160 --> 02:01:33,680
Speaker 1: to try to bond with her is met with resentment.

2640
02:01:33,920 --> 02:01:38,880
Speaker 1: Girl's playing the long game. She is playing ten D

2641
02:01:39,120 --> 02:01:43,320
Speaker 1: chests over there though she's seventeen now, so bonding with

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02:01:43,360 --> 02:01:45,879
Speaker 1: her is no longer a possibility. Anyway.

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02:01:46,000 --> 02:01:48,160
Speaker 4: My wife and I separated over this, so I guess

2644
02:01:48,200 --> 02:01:49,040
Speaker 4: she got what she wanted.

2645
02:01:49,120 --> 02:01:52,160
Speaker 5: Damn. It's like reverse parent trap.

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02:01:52,920 --> 02:01:55,640
Speaker 1: Literally, it's just too much for me to bear. But

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02:01:55,720 --> 02:01:57,800
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at my wife. I'm sad that she

2648
02:01:57,880 --> 02:01:59,800
Speaker 1: has to put up with her daughter's behavior for the

2649
02:02:00,240 --> 02:02:02,920
Speaker 1: of her life. I decided to give my stepdaughter a

2650
02:02:02,960 --> 02:02:06,600
Speaker 1: dose of reality and explain in no uncertain terms, she

2651
02:02:07,040 --> 02:02:08,919
Speaker 1: is the reason for our divorce.

2652
02:02:09,200 --> 02:02:13,160
Speaker 4: Destroyer. You took away Disney, I will take away your life.

2653
02:02:13,320 --> 02:02:15,560
Speaker 1: I didn't do this to spite her, because, frankly, I'm

2654
02:02:15,600 --> 02:02:17,320
Speaker 1: ready to move on with my life. I did it

2655
02:02:17,360 --> 02:02:20,520
Speaker 1: so she understands just how bloody selfish she is and

2656
02:02:20,560 --> 02:02:23,320
Speaker 1: how much emotional pain she put her poor mother through.

2657
02:02:23,360 --> 02:02:25,520
Speaker 1: I did it so she doesn't ruin her mother's future

2658
02:02:25,560 --> 02:02:29,400
Speaker 1: relationships like she did ours. She isn't moving out anytime soon,

2659
02:02:29,520 --> 02:02:31,320
Speaker 1: which I feels like a subtle drag where it's like

2660
02:02:31,360 --> 02:02:32,800
Speaker 1: this girl ain't up to nothing.

2661
02:02:32,840 --> 02:02:33,040
Speaker 4: Good.

2662
02:02:33,880 --> 02:02:37,120
Speaker 1: Wife and daughter's father are furious at me for telling

2663
02:02:37,160 --> 02:02:40,040
Speaker 1: their daughter this. They say it's going to be emotionally

2664
02:02:40,080 --> 02:02:43,240
Speaker 1: scarring for her, but quite frankly, I think she needed

2665
02:02:43,240 --> 02:02:46,160
Speaker 1: to be told. So am I the A hole question?

2666
02:02:46,520 --> 02:02:50,760
Speaker 1: Is opda hole for telling the stepdaughter that she is

2667
02:02:50,800 --> 02:02:52,680
Speaker 1: the direct cause of the divorce.

2668
02:02:53,040 --> 02:02:55,800
Speaker 5: Absolutely, this child does not know any better.

2669
02:02:55,920 --> 02:02:58,440
Speaker 6: I mean, at this point, she's nineteen, but it sounds

2670
02:02:58,520 --> 02:03:00,680
Speaker 6: like I'm gonna have some empathy for the child. She

2671
02:03:00,720 --> 02:03:03,760
Speaker 6: hasn't had a stable home life, her mom's a pushover,

2672
02:03:04,120 --> 02:03:06,480
Speaker 6: her stepdad took her to chuck e cheese, Like this

2673
02:03:06,560 --> 02:03:09,440
Speaker 6: is there's so much happening here, so much child with trauma,

2674
02:03:09,480 --> 02:03:12,400
Speaker 6: that she'll wants she'll realize the therapy that like this

2675
02:03:12,480 --> 02:03:14,560
Speaker 6: guy didn't need to go in and put her in

2676
02:03:14,560 --> 02:03:16,640
Speaker 6: her place, like get out of dodge, like.

2677
02:03:16,800 --> 02:03:17,560
Speaker 5: The marriage is over.

2678
02:03:18,080 --> 02:03:20,120
Speaker 1: If he's actually trying to do what he's saying, he's

2679
02:03:20,160 --> 02:03:21,760
Speaker 1: trying to do her it's like, hey, yeah, I want

2680
02:03:21,760 --> 02:03:23,920
Speaker 1: to help her in her relationships in the future. I

2681
02:03:23,960 --> 02:03:26,280
Speaker 1: want to make sure she doesn't do this to her

2682
02:03:26,280 --> 02:03:29,440
Speaker 1: mom's future relationships. Like if he's actually trying to do that,

2683
02:03:29,920 --> 02:03:31,920
Speaker 1: does he say anything? And what does he say?

2684
02:03:32,080 --> 02:03:33,920
Speaker 5: I think he needs to pass the combat of the mom.

2685
02:03:34,080 --> 02:03:35,600
Speaker 5: The mom needs to step up and be a parent.

2686
02:03:35,960 --> 02:03:36,200
Speaker 6: Mm.

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02:03:37,400 --> 02:03:40,480
Speaker 1: So you think don't have the conversation with the kid,

2688
02:03:40,720 --> 02:03:41,920
Speaker 1: have the conversation.

2689
02:03:41,480 --> 02:03:42,120
Speaker 4: With with mom.

2690
02:03:42,280 --> 02:03:44,040
Speaker 6: Well, it doesn't sound like they broke up because of

2691
02:03:44,080 --> 02:03:46,360
Speaker 6: a lack of love. It sounds like they apparently broke

2692
02:03:46,400 --> 02:03:49,840
Speaker 6: up because of this demon child. So yeah, I think

2693
02:03:50,080 --> 02:03:52,120
Speaker 6: you know what this is actually like a really twisted

2694
02:03:52,160 --> 02:03:54,440
Speaker 6: parent trap like she thinks she's breaking them up, but

2695
02:03:54,480 --> 02:03:56,920
Speaker 6: really it brings them together over the common bond of

2696
02:03:57,000 --> 02:03:58,600
Speaker 6: having to try and fix this child.

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02:03:58,880 --> 02:04:03,760
Speaker 1: Interesting, that's a beautiful moment of coming together. If only

2698
02:04:03,840 --> 02:04:06,640
Speaker 1: Ope had the foresight. Hey, what do you guys think?

2699
02:04:06,760 --> 02:04:09,240
Speaker 4: All right? Did was op the a hole? Is there

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02:04:09,240 --> 02:04:11,040
Speaker 4: a way he could have talked to the step daughter?

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02:04:11,400 --> 02:04:13,240
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02:04:13,280 --> 02:04:16,320
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2705
02:04:22,280 --> 02:04:24,840
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02:04:24,880 --> 02:04:25,600
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02:04:25,720 --> 02:04:26,920
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