1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to money making Conversations. I'm excited I got my 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: man CJ back on the show. I'm your host, rou 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. I recognized that we all have different definitions 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: of success. For some, it's a sizable paycheck. Might is 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: helping people wake up and inspiring them to accomplish their 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: goals and live their very best life. These are my 7 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: passions and that's what I'm going to do for you. 8 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: I want you to stop tripping over small challenges and 9 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: prepare to rise above the bigger obstacles that life will 10 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: present to you and live your dream. My next guest 11 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: is truly an NBA star. His name is c J McCullum. 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: After his introduction to wine in the early twenties by 13 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: his fiancee, CJ moved to Oregon and joined the Portland 14 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: Trailbladers tent pick in the draft. Finding themself just short 15 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: of drive away from one of the top wine regions 16 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: in the country, he launched his own brand, McCullen Heritage 17 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: Nay One. It's all about legacy, bringing CJ's passion to 18 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: life while honoring his roots in the process. It just 19 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: so happened that the perfect word to describe that His 20 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: heritage is also the name of the street he grew 21 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: up on, A can't know how you combined with his 22 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: birth year and the family name McCullen. Heritage Nati One 23 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: truly embodies c J and all that he stands for. 24 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 1: He's on the shoulder discussed he's sold out. I hear 25 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: you sold out. It's sold out, Heritage Naty One Wine Collection, 26 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: life doing it after the NBA bubble in Orlando, and 27 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: his educational charity. Please welcome back to money making Conversations, 28 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: my man, c J. McCullum. How you doing, c J. 29 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: I'm great man. Thanks for a great introduction and appreciate 30 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: you having me on. Well. First of all, first of all, 31 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: you know I I you sold dot though talk talks 32 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: about that whole plan because because I've been following you now, 33 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: c J. C You're you're a good planner. You went 34 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: down there and then you started sharing your wine with 35 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: everybody in the bubble with that. That was a strategy, right, Yeah, 36 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: it was definitely a part of the strategy. Obviously, the 37 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: situation shifted from when I first um began working on 38 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: my wine project three years ago. UM I was planning 39 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: on releasing year before the next season. Usually our season 40 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: starts in September, and obviously that kind of change with 41 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: the coronavirus situation didn't happen to potentially play in the bubble. 42 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: So I had the one that I was prepared to 43 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: kind of distribute to Forensics family and kind of switched 44 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: that over and distributed to a bunch of players and 45 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: staff and front office members in the NBA to just 46 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: kind of get an idea of what they thought about it. 47 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: I was it from the marketing standpoint that was helpful 48 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: as well, but the plan was more so just to 49 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: get feedback on what they thought about the wine, like 50 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: in terms of the taste and um, just to kind 51 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: of try to introduce it to them because a lot 52 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: of people weren't familiar with it because it was my 53 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: first project in the wine world. Now he hears me, 54 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: Now wine is grapes, correct, Yes, okay, cool? Now I 55 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: would I'm just a country bore. I'm born and raised 56 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: in Houston, Texas. Okay, everything rose well in the South 57 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: Wales warm now Portland, Oregon, that's wine country. Yeah, you'd 58 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: be surprised that we're not. I am surprised because I'm 59 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: I'm talking like this because I would think that grapes 60 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: need to be warm to survive, and I know you 61 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: have severe windows up there. Correct, No, it's actually not 62 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: that bad here. Besides the rain, which can play a 63 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: factor in the taste of of the wine going forward, 64 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: our winners aren't bad. It's only snowed probably three times 65 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: in my seven years out here in the in the wintertime, 66 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: it's it's pretty pretty balanced. And I think what helps 67 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: our grapes is the climate. The climate we get from 68 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: so many, so many different landscapes. We have mountain ranges, 69 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: we have the Halo Mounts, we have Dundee, we have 70 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: so many different parts of of Oregon that are going 71 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: through the fermentation process that go through the process of 72 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: actually making a wine that you get so many different tastes. 73 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: But I think historically, based on the research I've done 74 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: and what I've seen in comparison to you look at 75 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: a NAPA which is in California, that they have cooler 76 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: climate at night. They kind of go through hot hot, 77 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: some is uh not too cold in the winter. We're 78 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: similar in terms of hot summers, but it's not too 79 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: cold in the winter and during harvards, which is around 80 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: you know, September, to October. We have ideal weather for grapes, 81 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: not a lot of rain until the end of October. 82 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: Um it's it's hot, but it's cool at nine so 83 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: we can get up to during the day and they 84 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: can get down as low as fifty at night. So 85 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: you have that balance of amult to the climates. But 86 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: then it just comes down to luck, you know, having 87 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: the right elevation, being being facing uh southeastern and Southwestern 88 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: that also plays a huge role. But I had no 89 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: idea until I moved out here, So I'm with you. 90 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 1: I'm just fortunate enough to have moved out here and 91 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: been exposed to it firsthand to where it's it's kind 92 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: of shifted my perspective of it. And then talking to 93 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: a bunch of experts and people in the business, they've 94 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: come to the same conclusion that Oregan is really known 95 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: for the piano in the war, and they have some 96 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,799 Speaker 1: great shard in their grapes as well. Now you're talking 97 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: like an expert. I love your toneticulate anyway, but you 98 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: really you really m is some No. We talked earlier 99 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: about the grape, you know, and we talked about the 100 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 1: wine being released in September, with it being sold at 101 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: where are you right now? Confidently when confidence about your product, 102 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: because I I hear confidence in your tone. I hear 103 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: I hear a high level of professionalism. Not saying that 104 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: you don't talk, but you know when once you taste 105 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: a little bit of success, like what you did with 106 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: more MORETT on that basketball court. Remember remember, remember you 107 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: know how you did and you know when you came 108 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: out the court you had a different attitude about how 109 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: you treating them about there. See, I'm sitting at this 110 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: an attitude with you now, t J, now that you're 111 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: sold I talked to us about that, you know, I mean, 112 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: if we're being honest here, I created a good product. 113 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: I had a lot of highly successful people around me 114 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: to kind of mold me and help me go through 115 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: this process too, where I had a great understanding of 116 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: what was going to happen. When you hire the right people, Uh, 117 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: it's hard to fail. I know what I don't know. 118 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: And I hired a bunch of experts who whose job 119 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: is to put me in a position to succeed. And 120 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: I think starting with the winemaker, trying with the partnership 121 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: with the winery I chose and NATO sign we knew 122 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: it was going to be a successfu We just weren't sure, 123 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: you know, the reception that we would get. We're going 124 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: shure it would sell out in forty five minutes. But 125 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: I knew that people would be attracted to it. We're 126 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: not talking about correct fifty dollars a bottle, and we 127 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: did a We did a really good job of marketing. 128 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: And I think from a brand, brand name standpoint, uh, 129 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: people know that I enjoy wine, they know that Oregon 130 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: Pinos specifically is historically been good. And I think the 131 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: confidence just comes from the work I put a lot 132 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: of work in on trying to learn. I'm not an 133 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: expert by any means, but I have learned a lot 134 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: in my in my nine years being involved in the 135 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: wine industry and just kind of learning self taught and 136 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: then speaking to experts about the importance of wine. The 137 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: process of wine will go through the climates you need, 138 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: and and so on and so forth. I just felt 139 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,799 Speaker 1: confident that, um, it would be a good wine because 140 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: I tasted it. I had some psalms tasted, I had 141 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: people who are considered wine snobs tasted and give me 142 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: really positive feedback to where I'm comfortable with speaking on 143 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: it because I literally went through the entire process of 144 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: making wine with the album experts so that I feel 145 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: confident about it. So you went from just a just 146 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: a conno swort a person who enjoorge wine to doing 147 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,119 Speaker 1: your homework and now each step now is like getting 148 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: you know, getting another year notching your degree plan of 149 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: being more and more of an expert and achieve the 150 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: next level of success. Now you said, you said, okay, 151 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: forty five minutes c J. So okay, tell me this. 152 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: How did how was the release notifa? What it was? 153 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: Was it note notification on your social media? How did 154 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: that work? Because you said, you guys did a really 155 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: good job of marketing this, and so I'm sure you're 156 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: planning the next series and you want to do a 157 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: really good job again. So what was the what was 158 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: the good of people to hear how you release a 159 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: new brand, because like they were a very smart strategy, 160 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: you know, in the bubble when I started reading about 161 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: the players, that was a good strategy because I'm sure 162 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: someone post posted it about it and that really helped 163 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: to raise the consciousness to people who could be potential customers. 164 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: How did you release it so everybody would know his 165 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: own not go by. Yeah, so we created brand awareness. 166 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: Almost a year ago. I started to notify people that, 167 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: you know, there's a project in the works. UM end 168 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: up doing a press release probably seven six or seven 169 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 1: months ago to kind of notify people like, hey, what 170 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: about So we started with the press release to kind 171 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: of create that awareness and strategic branding. UM. Then obviously 172 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: I begain posting, hired a marketing team, social media team 173 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: that's that's you know, spearheaded by Ashley comes from Extenta, 174 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: who's gonna tremendous job, very very bright, a very bright 175 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: individual who's kind of helped, you know, walk me through 176 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: this process and we both learned a lot them to 177 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: fly to doing doing interviews, things of that nature, to 178 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: kind of talk about it, and just the more so 179 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: the biggest thing is just educational. You educate yourself, you 180 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: educate the masses act you're going through the process, and 181 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: you kind of draw them in. So we drew them in, 182 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, explain to them what the 183 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: process was like, the story behind wine, while I got 184 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: into wine, the designing process of the bottle, and and 185 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: then we created a mailing list. The mailing lists kind 186 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: of went out sporadically with with videos, with with images, 187 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: created a website and basically allowed people to subscribe and 188 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: sign up, and the first day I think we had 189 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: seven people sign up and subscribe basically say that they 190 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: would like to purchase the wine, and that kind of 191 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: allowed it to evolve. And this is two months before 192 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: I end up going to the bubble too, or three 193 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: months before I end up like giving out wine to 194 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: about nine d NBA players, But I went through that 195 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: process first and basically let every right now that head. 196 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 1: You can only purchase the wine on this website. It's 197 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: only available online, and the rest is as they say, 198 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: the rest is history, basically shot updates. 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McCullum. 226 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: His wine sold like he told you forty five minutes 227 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: nine am, which is noontime East Coast time, but color 228 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: heritage and any one sold out fifty dollars a bottle 229 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: is a pino, right. Yeah, Because my wife, she's a 230 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: huge wine drinker. So I was I was bragging by 231 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: it out of interview you and your wine was coming out. 232 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: So she was asking me where where CJ wining that 233 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: you know? I say, hey, so so as you're looking 234 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: at to be crazy right now, so let's let's find 235 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: out when the next batch come come out and maybe 236 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: I can get into that pre sale and put in 237 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: I get in the pre sale coupon, and I said, 238 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: I pay. I don't ask for anything free. CJ. That's 239 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: about me and that's why our money making conversations about 240 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: making money. When is the next run so we can, uh, 241 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure to be you'll you'll make even 242 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: more a bigger batch to go out there. But wine 243 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: is seasonal? Or how does that work? Educate us? Yeah, 244 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: So basically I went through a three to five year 245 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: plan when I bought the grapes in two thousand seventeen, 246 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: so I brought the grapes and two thousand and seventeen 247 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: I knew that I wasn't going to put off the 248 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: wine until because obviously from a wine standpoint, I had 249 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: to go through harvest. So those are those grapes were 250 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: planted in two thousand eighteen, and it goes to ten 251 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: to twelve months in the bottle of the paying Well, 252 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: you know how you age it. I aged my ten 253 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: months in French oak baros, and then we we go 254 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: to go to the fermentation process and then we rack 255 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: them and put them in bottles, and that's basically a 256 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: a year process. They were bottling in two thousand nineteen 257 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: and kind of let them sit on the shelves and 258 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: rotate them and then do what you need to do 259 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: depending on the process you take. And I knew I 260 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: wasn't selling until so in two thousand seventeen I brought 261 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: I bought the grades for eighteen, and two thousand and 262 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: eighteen I brought I bought the grades for nineteen. So 263 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: my nineteen version of what I just sold will go 264 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: until probably a year from now. I have to checked 265 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: then and figure out how we want to market it. 266 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: But we've already bottled the nineteen version of I sold 267 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: last week, and it's it's still not ready. That's still young, 268 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: still premature, but we'll figure out our release date and 269 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: kind of go from there. But historically I've done things 270 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: in September, so I might just wait a full year 271 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: and I release it in September, and the greedy brother 272 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: don't get greedy. Now we all know about these fires 273 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: that are happened in the Oregon. Uh tell me if 274 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: it's making any impact or will they make any impact 275 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: on the wine industry up there? Yeah? I mean, first 276 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 1: and form most my prayers go out to all the 277 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: families and people that were affected by the fires. You know, 278 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: living here in Oregon and being close to the fires, 279 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: it it really hits home. And I told my fiance 280 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: they other day. I think the biggest thing wrong with 281 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 1: our society is that unless things directly impact or involved you, 282 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: you tend to not pay attention. And until you get 283 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: the email saying you need to evacuate, you don't understand 284 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: the severity of a fire. And once we got the 285 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: email saying, you know, kind of packed your house up 286 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: and get ready, that's when you begin to panic and 287 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: feel so sorry for so many people out there that 288 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: either a have nowhere to go be, don't have the 289 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: means or see, or it's too late. And I think 290 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: over a half a million people had to evacuate homes 291 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: so burned out. People have lost priceless valuables, you know, pictures, memories, 292 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: things that you can't replace are going along with your home. 293 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: So it's it's very, very unfortunate. We were forced to 294 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: kind of, you know, pack up our home and prepare 295 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: to leave. But luckily we didn't have to end up leaving. 296 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: But the the effects of the small dog, the smoke, 297 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: the pollution that's caused the fires is definitely probably going 298 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: to affect the grapes space on what I've heard from 299 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: being on the venus these last couple of weeks. They 300 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: won't know until until they go through harvest, which is delayed, 301 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: like most wires, delayed harvest because of the fires. Didn't 302 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: want to have people out there picking, uh and what 303 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: was considered um they went from very very poor air 304 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: pollution to toxic air pollution hazards to the point point 305 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: that where no one could really be outside. So they 306 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: say they won't know until until the harvest finishes and 307 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: they get to kind of check out the grapes in 308 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: the next phase. But hopefully too many people weren't impacted 309 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: by that in the in the wine where I know 310 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: a lot of other people were, and my prayers go 311 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: out to them. That's right, that I might have a 312 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: little fun with you because you know, watching and doing 313 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: the bubble uh playing and um, you know one of 314 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: my favorite players anyway, just just so astute and uh 315 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: to see you. Um have I seen that from you 316 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: in the court before being Edi Moore should know being 317 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: that um bostress um about what you was accomplishing, you know, 318 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: on on the court or if I missed it because 319 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: you are in Portland, I don't get to see you 320 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: all the time. I think sometimes you've got to let 321 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: people know what time doing. Come on, come on, come on. 322 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: I'm very very confident for myself, but I think there's 323 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: a time and a place for everything, and sometimes you 324 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: have to let people know. And I think I've I've 325 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: always been like that. People out here in Oregon and 326 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: people that really watch us, I have seen that before. 327 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: But I think when it's different when it's on the 328 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: national stage and it's in the playoffs. But I've done 329 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: those same things and said those same words in a 330 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: in a pickup game and practice, you know what I mean. 331 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: That's just something man, because that boy's talent. You superstar, 332 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: You're You're a bad boy. You're a bad boy. Man. 333 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: You had them stumbling, yeah, them reaching, yeah you you 334 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: just man, I was, I was, I was just laughing 335 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: so hard. Man. I called Stevens said, man, did you 336 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: see my boy? Did you see him? Did you see 337 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: him clowning tonight? And he started laughing, said yeah, you 338 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: said you a bad boy? I know, Hey, I ain't 339 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: saying I know you're a bad boy. And so so 340 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: what feedback do you just getting social media from all that? 341 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: C J. I just thought it was funny, man, And personally, 342 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: I like, respectful, that's true. He's he's real. But no, 343 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's people just give you credit what 344 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: credit is due. I think that's that's that's what you 345 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: have to do in this society. You tipt your hat, 346 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: you know, when you lose, and you tip your hat 347 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: when you win and salute the next person, understanding that 348 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: um in life and things are gonna always go your way. 349 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: But you know, I had I had some some goodly 350 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: good games, and I had some games where I wish 351 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: I would have played better. But all in all, I 352 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: was I was the best version of myself every night. 353 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: And I can live with that. And I think the 354 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: rest of the world social media, They've seen me play, 355 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: They've seen me rise to me a big moments. So 356 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: some people probably were surprised, But people that know me 357 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: and know the game, uh, they know what I'm capable of. 358 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, it wasn't. I wouldn't. I wasn't 359 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: surprised at what you did. It was a surprise of you. 360 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: You know, the you know, the personality of shift. You know, 361 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: you know in your chest, you know, hit in your chest. 362 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: You know that. That was the part I hadn't seen before. 363 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: You've been clouding since you came in the league as 364 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: a rookie. You've been stepping up that game. You know, 365 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: you and Uh Damian the two of the underserved I 366 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: think under recognized backcourt duos and Uh and the NBA 367 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: in the last ten years, you do y'all some bad boys. Now, 368 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: you went into the bubble the pandemic was going on, 369 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: and you came out of the bubble the pandemic was 370 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: going on. What was the bubble like? What was that 371 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: life in that bubble for? For for just the lifestyle, 372 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: just being able to socialize, being able to get information? 373 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: What was that all about? The testing? Can you walk 374 00:18:55,720 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: us through those steps c J. Yeah, it was unique. Honestly, 375 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 1: I unlike anything I've ever experienced before. Do the circumstances 376 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: what we're going through obviously in the world, and when 377 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: we're still going through today, from an injustice standpoint to 378 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: two blacks and minorities to seeing the COVID, the situation 379 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: with COVID, how many lights were taken away or affected, 380 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: and how we had to kind of take extra precaution. 381 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: It was. It was really a special, special time because 382 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing we wanted to accomplish was 383 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: obviously continue to spread awareness to some of the things 384 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: got going on in America, have initiagies in place, have 385 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: things that we can kind of touch on and bring 386 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: light to while being able to play the game we love, 387 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 1: and get people in the state because there's a lot 388 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: of stuff going on on a day to day basis 389 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: to where it affects your psyche, your mentality, and we 390 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: wanted to get people in the state to be able 391 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: to watch entertainment. And I think we were able to 392 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: accomplish all those things, but the day to day life 393 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: was crazy then. Like when you first land, for one, 394 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: you started testing like two weeks before you get there 395 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: every other day and then when you get you guys 396 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: had a face chance a quick test, right, yeah, I 397 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: think it was rapid where the results would come the 398 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: next day, I think for five hours or the next day. 399 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: So we did testing upon arrival, and then you quarantine 400 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: in your room for forty eight hours so you can't 401 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: leave your room, and they bring you food and drop 402 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: it off at the door. So you go through that process, 403 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: and then once you get i think two or three 404 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: consecutive negative tests, you're able to leave your room, but 405 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: you can't leave the hotel. So you're basically stuck there 406 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: in three different hotel or hubs with six teams, and 407 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: you do daily testing based on time slots. Every day. 408 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: You do the nasal test as well as the oral swab, 409 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: and you go through that process and it's just it's 410 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: almost like a summer camp or like an AU tournament 411 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: because there's just a bunch of teams, a bunch of 412 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: guys who you compete against. But it was just it 413 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: was just a really really unique situation to where it's 414 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 1: it's unlike anything I've ever been through, and it's something 415 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 1: that I will remember forever. But I'm glad I was 416 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: able to experience it. I think that we made the 417 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: best of the situation. Obviously there's this four teams still 418 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 1: left competing, and I think that one of the best 419 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: parts about it they eventually began to let people found 420 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: numbers there because it can get very lonely out there, right, um, 421 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 1: just kind of being away from your kids, a significant other, 422 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: all those things you're accustomed to it it can change 423 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: you and kind of affect your mentality. Now, let's talk 424 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: about the opening day. You know, when you guys, um 425 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: all um, I wanted to say student solidarity, h are 426 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: I want? I won't use the word protests, want to 427 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: recognize that Black lives matter, do matter? What was it? 428 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: What were your emotions? And because I'm not there, all 429 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: I can do is realized that I was proud of 430 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: the unity. I was proud, and I know there was 431 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: You know, when you when you do it, when you 432 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: when you're doing what you're doing, you're not worried about 433 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: your wine sales, You're not worried about endorsements, you're not 434 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: worried about you You're you're committed to making a change 435 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: in your voice being heard. Who was running through your 436 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: mind personally when all that was going on, and then 437 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about the Milwaukee when they 438 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: made that decision to walk out. What was running too 439 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: your mind? Then? Yeah, I mean you hit the meal 440 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: when they had the biggest thing for me. And then 441 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 1: most of the guys was just right and this wrong, 442 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: and what we're seeing in America and beyond right now 443 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: is just not right. It's it's wrong and we have 444 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: to stand for something. I think the fact that the 445 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: NBA backed us, the league as a whole, our teams 446 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: backed us and stick with us, understanding that there's just 447 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: so many things that need to be corrected and changed, 448 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: and we put that to the forefront. I think that 449 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: was the goal and objective. So I felt proud to 450 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: be a part of that and proud to see it. 451 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: I think when the Milwaukee Bucks decided not to play, 452 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: I think it's sparked another conversation. Um. I think they 453 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: were the spearheaded leaders and us kind of having to 454 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: sit down and collect ourselves. And historically, when the NBA 455 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,479 Speaker 1: does something, the rest of the world follows. We were 456 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: the first professional sports league to shut down during COVID, 457 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: and then the rest of the world and in sports 458 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: teams began shutting down. We were the first UH league 459 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: to have players protests and not playing the game, and 460 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 1: then shortly after that m THELB and they would not 461 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: be playing UH. Every other sport basically followed in line 462 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 1: the Wimbledon tennis. All those players that would both participated 463 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: on the on the on the large stage, they well, 464 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: I think soccer exactly exactly, And that sparked another conversation 465 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: as to why so many things in America are happening 466 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 1: to to black and brown people and why these injustices 467 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: are are just intolerable and not fair. And I think 468 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: I was just proud to be a part of it. 469 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: I think the conversation that that it allowed to happen, 470 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: to dialogue get created was positive and has pointed the 471 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: right light on so many lives that have been affected 472 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: in this in this way. Well, you know, it was 473 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: really interesting that because all I can do is, you know, 474 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: sometimes you get so far. All you can do is 475 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: pray for change, pray that people will see the light. 476 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: And then you see, you see a part of this 477 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: country just don't care, man, just really don't care. This 478 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: is gonna move forward and acting like this ain't even happening. 479 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: And then uh, and then paying a story like we're 480 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: the villains, like like like like our history means nothing 481 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: and it won't tell our history. And when I see you, 482 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: you might use a generation of change to me. When 483 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 1: I look at you, c J, and I I'm really 484 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: proud of your brother, and and I say that because 485 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: of the fact that that's a lot of pressure, man, 486 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: for a young man like you to to make a 487 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: decision to do what you're doing. And there's a lot 488 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: of you doing it. Not just you, but a lot 489 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: of you guys are making these decisions. And I'm telling you, 490 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: when when the Major League Baseball stepped away, I was stunned. 491 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: I was absolutely stunned, c J. When MLS, MLS, uh 492 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: mad Leave Soccer stepped away, I was absolutely stunned. Um, 493 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: because these are these are leagues are not predominant African 494 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: American leagues. And and I know you said, uh, you know, 495 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: people tend to follow the lead of the NBA. Were 496 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 1: you caught off god by that quickly the other leads, 497 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: the other sporting leads reacted or what were your thoughts? 498 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: I was surprised at how quickly they all reacted and 499 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: stood with us, especially some of those other leagues that 500 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: are majority uh white, predominantly white leagues. I was very surprised, 501 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: but I was happy to see it. It's the change 502 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,239 Speaker 1: we need to see. And I think a lot of 503 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: times when when minorities are complaining about issues that are 504 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: happening to minorities, people tend to not listen. But when 505 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: the majority is speaking on behalf as well as with us, 506 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: I think that's when the most change can occur. And 507 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: I think that's what we're starting to see throughout the world. 508 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: The old presses are starting to speak on behalf of 509 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: the rest of the world, and I think that's what 510 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: you need in order to have changed. You need people 511 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: that are a part of the problem but also not 512 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: affected by the problem to speak up for us. You're 513 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 1: absolutely telling the truth. C J. I want to thank 514 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: you for coming on the show again. Man. You know, 515 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 1: I'm sorry I can't help you sell anymore your wine 516 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: because you know, you did such an amazing marketing job 517 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: and you're such a badass basketball player on the NBA court, 518 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: you know, and you leading this. But more importantly, just 519 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: just just Rushan McDonald. I'm an older member over this 520 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: of this, of this change, and talking to a younger 521 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: man who has generations. You can affect generation. You are 522 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: affecting generations, man, and as an entrepreneur, as your your nonprofit, 523 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: as an athlete who who does more than just dribble 524 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 1: the damn ball. Go change, brother, Please don't change the thing. Yes, 525 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 1: sir man, That's just one thing I can assure you, 526 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: is that I remember where I come from and what 527 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: I come from. The the biggest thing you can do 528 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 1: as a as a young black man in America, it's 529 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: the sick ground ways to affect the masses. And he'll 530 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: pull somebody up that comes from a situation just like you. Cool. 531 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 1: Thank you. He's on the show to promote his wine. 532 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: Heridge nine Heritage NATed one wine collection is sold out, 533 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: y'all fifty dollars a bottle. You got another set coming 534 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: out next year, so be ready one September. I'll be 535 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: ready because I'm getting in front of the line. He's 536 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: already told me he's gonna take care of me, and 537 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna buy the winej We're talking to, brother, Tell 538 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: your family high man. Brother, I'd love you, and don't 539 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 1: you change. Bye. I got you, absolutely appreciate you. Thank you, brother. 540 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more from Marsa McDonald and 541 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations don't touch that down. Oregon donations save 542 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: lives and some organs can even be donated by a 543 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: living donor. August is National Minority Donor Awareness Months. So 544 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: let's check in with Dr Denay Simpson, Assistant Professor of 545 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 1: Surgery at Northwestern Medicine, tell us about the African American 546 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: Transplant Access Program. So this is my baby. This is 547 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: a program that I have dreamt about creating since I 548 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: became interested in transplant as a trainee, and it's program 549 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: designed to address the significant disparities that are African American 550 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: patients space. The program is designed to educate patients about transplant, 551 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: let them know what transplant can provide to them, and 552 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: to help them access the resources that they find so 553 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: scarce and so challenging to access in order to get 554 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: them on the transplant path and back to, you know, 555 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: some type of meaningful life. For more information, visit n 556 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 1: M dot org Slash Radio. Welcome back to Money Making Conversations. 557 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: I'm your host Sean McDonald my guest Jody Watley. Miss 558 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: Jody Watley is a Grammy winning trends sending pioneering music 559 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: video fashion and style. Jody is listening on Billboards top 560 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: sixty Hot one female artists of all time. She's top 561 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: twenty five dance artists of all time. She became the 562 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: first artist to release a million selling video, Dance to Fitness, 563 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: which has not been achieved by black woman all musician. 564 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: She was the first woman of color to play Rizzo 565 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: on Broadway and to hit Musical Greece. She's an entrepreneur. 566 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: She's producing and releasing her own music. She's on the 567 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: show to talk about being an artist during the pandemic 568 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: time and coping with the works complished. Miss Jordie Watty 569 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: is finding her sanctuary. That's what I found this on 570 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: the I was just doing our research and find it 571 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: Miss Jodie Walley finding her sanctuary in the kitchen. Amiss, 572 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: all these uncertain pandemic times, she out there, She out 573 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: there clicking dishes and pots and payers and over a 574 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: hot stove. You know, like like she in the South 575 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: or somewhere. Please walk with the money made conversation, Miss Jody, 576 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: what hey, what is introduction? You know? After that, I 577 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: feel like a vox about to go in the rainy Jody. 578 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: You know, here's the funny part about Jody, and she 579 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: was this laughing so low, she was laughing so low, 580 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: and then she just opening this middle interview, she's gonna 581 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: start laughing introduction. That's gonna just laughing at the store. 582 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: I just I love it. Thank you, and I'm so 583 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: excited to be talking to you. Well, I'm excited to 584 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: be talking to you, of course, you know, a fan 585 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: of your music, fan of your talent. You're a beautiful 586 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: person and uh that watch you and danced dance with 587 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: you so many years on the dance floor. So this 588 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: feels like okay, you know, okay, you know the music 589 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: is still great, Jody, But you know, music back in 590 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: the day, I can remember exactly where I was at 591 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: on certain songs, and uh, you know, and that's where 592 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: I can get kind of missing the day because you know, 593 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: you're throwing the music videos in there, so you kind 594 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: of go back to the video before you go back 595 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: to the moment when you was on that in that 596 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: in that basement party, you know, just getting sweat, not 597 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: enough like to see what you're dancing with, you know, 598 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: but you're just dancing, you know that And that is 599 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: something about music, and it's true, it's so associated with 600 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: growing up and memories and you know, just in so 601 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: many ways and you know, good time, bad time, uh, 602 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: and between times and so you know my music, uh 603 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: it is a blessing because it spans so you know, 604 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: continuing on. But you know it represents um, you know, 605 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: always a good time for people and that makes me happy. 606 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: But what makes me happy is that she and a 607 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: person who you know, has has to sustain career relevance 608 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: in this entertainment business because I've been in it, you know, 609 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: for a long time and being in it, you know, 610 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: trying to stay because it's such a hard business because 611 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: you can get you know, the discrimination happens, or agesn't happen, 612 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,239 Speaker 1: sexism happens, and you know all those things, well you know, 613 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: who is she or what has she done later? What 614 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: has he done later? What have they done lately? That 615 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: really permeates really big in the entertainment game. And it's 616 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: kind of sad because of the fact that there's so 617 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: much uncertainty in entertainment. How did mentally from a mental standpoint, 618 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: how have you been able to cope with that? Jody? 619 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: You know, I think throughout my life, I'm I'm very focused. 620 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: I've always been a person that UM has tried to 621 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: have balance in my life, which is very important in 622 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: any profession. And UM, you know, never get too highs 623 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: at the highs and too low at the lows. And 624 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's always been important for me to UM, 625 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: to be authentic and what I do, UH, to learn 626 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: the business because I think a lot of people get 627 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: messed up getting in the entertainment industry and I did 628 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: started as a teenager. But I've always been business minded. 629 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: I mean when I was in junior high school, UM, 630 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: I would I had I call them side hustles. I 631 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: was so close for people. I'd make pillows at my 632 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: dad's church and fry fish and and bake cupcakes to 633 00:32:54,960 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: make money. We're ch chen and all that little bit later. 634 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: Don't be hyden stuff earlier, so I understand. So my 635 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: journey has always been I think that really has helped 636 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: me sustain in this business. The uncertainty is because I've 637 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: never been afraid of the work, never been afraid to 638 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: say no, UM, and very meticulous about what I do. 639 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: And so if someone has I'm not just enough, I'm 640 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: not that enough, it never really phases me. And I 641 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: think it's important in life that you have to believe 642 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: when no one else believes, and to keep doing the 643 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: work in find ways to get it done. If if doors, 644 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: I mean doors have closed on me and I've opened 645 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: new doors for myself because I'm continuing to do the work, 646 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: you know, Um, And it's very important, and it really 647 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: is important because really, when I look at your career, 648 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: you know, because you've had success in a group, okay, Sam, 649 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,479 Speaker 1: and then you've had tremendous success as an individual artist. 650 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: Talk about working with people and then the burden of 651 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: being a solo artist because there are different different things 652 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: that are task when you buy yourself or you don't 653 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: have nothing that nobody to lean on but yourself, and 654 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: the decision and the appearances all on you. So talk 655 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: about the success in a group and the success as 656 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: a solo artist just from an entertainment standpoint, so people 657 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: can understand the difference. Well, you know, being in a group, 658 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: being the only girl in the group and not actually 659 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: being protected was very challenging for me, and you know 660 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: it made me Um. You know again, I had to 661 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: be tough. I had to carry myself in a certain 662 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: way being a woman in the business. If you're not 663 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,280 Speaker 1: kind of flighty or whatever. You know, you get labeled 664 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 1: things that aren't always very flattering. But again it's like 665 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: I know who I am and I learned learned from it. 666 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: So going solo actually has never been a burden. Actually 667 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 1: it's been such a blessing because I get to do 668 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: I get to own it and to be in control 669 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 1: of it and take people to work with and not 670 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: just do what I'm told, but to really craft. I've 671 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: been able to really craft uh my own niche as 672 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,240 Speaker 1: an artist for you know, I've been a solo artist 673 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 1: now for over thirty five years, um, and seven years 674 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: before that and shala mar so I've been you know, 675 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: on this on this journey. But being a solo I like, 676 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: I like running my own business, I really do, and 677 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: so it's a joy. It's like, you know, it's a 678 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 1: lot of responsibility taking you know, musicians and producers and um, 679 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: but I'm about the business and so so I enjoy 680 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: all the aspects of it. But you're a live performer, 681 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 1: and we know the value of being a live performer. 682 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: And the downside was the pandemic. They are nobody saw 683 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 1: our comming. I knew I didn't see it coming, and 684 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: not to the extreme when they talk about shut down, 685 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,919 Speaker 1: you know, because that really doesn't hit you what they're 686 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: talking about until it actually happened. What does that mean 687 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,439 Speaker 1: shut down when you're talking about venues or closed, they're 688 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 1: talking about you know, restaurants or clothes. And how did 689 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: that whole process in your mind? How was it starting 690 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: the process as being just what they're talking about shutting? Now, 691 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: how did that whole process work for you? Because I'm jousing. 692 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: It freaked me out, Okay, I think it. It had 693 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: to freak all of us out, and I think, you know, 694 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: at first, actually, to be honest with you, one of 695 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: the first things that I thought about was I'm glad 696 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: I've always lived below my means and above my means 697 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: because you know, I'm glad that I'm a songwriter. And 698 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, God, thank god I'm a songwriter, 699 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: because I'm really gonna be living off my royalities now 700 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: because there's not gonna be any concerts. And you know, 701 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: two months into it, I went through a moment where 702 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: I felt kind of that, you know, because I like 703 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: to hustle up, I love performing and just you know, 704 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 1: having this moment of pause. I've always taken time off 705 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 1: here and there, but to actually be forced into it. Um. 706 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: And so we're trying. What I've really done is trying 707 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: to find new ways to keep myself busy, create some 708 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: new revenue streams myself. And it's very important to again 709 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: is not be defeated by the situation. To find ways 710 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: to make things happen. And so you know that's what 711 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: I've been doing. Well, you know, not to understanding that 712 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: you have some facial masks or they out now they're 713 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: coming out. Yeah, I have Well I've had an online 714 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: boutique for about twenty years now and uh, I have 715 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: you know, different merchandise coming in all the time, and 716 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 1: social masks are one of the new items. Um. And 717 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: you know those came as a result of the pandemic. 718 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: You know, you gotta jump on stuff. I give a 719 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: portion of the proceeds defeating America's so it's for a 720 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: good cause. Um. You know I've got sanctuary candles and 721 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: uh rooms gray coming um and you know, and then 722 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: the music. My current song is the Healing and it's 723 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: a timely song. Um. I got Jody Whiteley hoopering, so 724 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: you know what you're gonna do take on my show now, 725 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: I started with the facial mass. Now you have to 726 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: whoopie read now, it's it's a it's a method to 727 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: this manic. When you come on money and make conversation. 728 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,399 Speaker 1: We got to talk about each one so it could 729 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,359 Speaker 1: be clearly heard. Ms. Whiteley, I see, I see right now, 730 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna have a great relationship, but we're gonna learn 731 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 1: to make money roushan weight okay, slow and affectively, okay, 732 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: because what we're gonna do first, we're gonna you know, 733 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna put now the mask out right now are 734 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: they yeah? Okay, cool? They are? They are available, Okay, cool. 735 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: So what we're gonna do is, were gonna get a 736 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 1: little post a picture with you with the mask, and 737 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna put it on my social media this week. Okay, 738 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: but then it was over meet okay, because I got 739 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,800 Speaker 1: eight hundred tho Facebook following any percent of my women Okay, 740 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 1: because that my bacon don't ain't because they love me. 741 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: They just love those cakes, I'll be so, you know. 742 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 1: So so we're gonna put that in. Then next Wednesday 743 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: my news letter comes out and then there's ninety thousand 744 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: fan club subscribers to that. So we're gonna drop the 745 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 1: facial facial mask in that. Okay, so we're gonna so 746 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: that's the face. That's how that's how you do business. 747 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 1: When you come on money making conversations, we ain't no 748 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 1: hurry to make money, which about relationships. That's how we 749 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: lasted this long because the relationship them about five and 750 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: dead people that ain't us, that ain't a we're long 751 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 1: we're long term, long term. So so so then you 752 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: then you talked about these candles, talk about these candle 753 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 1: come tiarsom least the big fat candles that you can 754 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 1: put it in your in your bathroom while you're taking 755 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 1: up a bathroom when you outside reading the book. What 756 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 1: type of count thought they? So the sanctuary can't be 757 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 1: the glass the big candles those sold out. So the 758 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 1: new shipment candles are trump their tens travel tens. So 759 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 1: you know it's very compact, uh, the luxury soy candles, 760 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: but they are they're not the big oversized glass one 761 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:29,479 Speaker 1: this one because these are easier to ship right. Well, okay, 762 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 1: so now that's sold doctor, say right, the new travel 763 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: tens those just arrived today, Okay, cool, So so so 764 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: we can put that on social media too. Yeah, Okay, cool, 765 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 1: So you old me talk talk. I don't think you're 766 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,240 Speaker 1: calling money make conversation just to have a money make conversation. 767 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: You're not making their money because you got you know, 768 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: says Miss Jody Wideley, You say, Miss Whiteley. So so 769 00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 1: we got there, we got the facial mass. We just 770 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: got new shipment of Sanctuary candles in gott to do 771 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,839 Speaker 1: a banner for that. So let's talko. We got into 772 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,840 Speaker 1: the hoopie ring then't got to that yet, right, No, 773 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 1: I'm flowing down, learn quick, learner, and you know you 774 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: gotta listen to Peaceles looking now. So now let's talk 775 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 1: about the music song Healing. Let's talk about that. What 776 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: you know, I know, you have a racial unrest pandemic 777 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 1: is over the avertly affecting the African American community. We 778 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,800 Speaker 1: have an election here that uh, it's just emotionally charging 779 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: this country in the world is watching. And so when 780 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 1: I hear a song called healing, tell us what the 781 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: story behind it and what you're trying to achieve with 782 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,240 Speaker 1: you know, what your music? Who you're trying to reach 783 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: with the healing? I mean, you know, because my music 784 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 1: has progressed so much over the years, and I wrote 785 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 1: this song before the pandemic came out came about, and 786 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: really I wanted to do a song to remind people to, 787 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 1: no matter what's going on in the world, never let 788 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 1: anyone jim your life year wattag the wattage lived within you, 789 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 1: and to encourage people to live in and now because 790 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 1: now it's what we have and what we make of life. 791 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: And it's a dance room because I know people like 792 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 1: miss Jodie. Part of my brand is the dancing. But 793 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 1: it's an inspirational song. And it just so happened that 794 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: the pandemic hit and then you know, a black lives 795 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 1: matter and everything, and so it was one of those 796 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 1: things to me, the universe had the ultimate timing, uh 797 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 1: and me putting it out and when you and how 798 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: does the how is the music being distributed to streaming 799 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: and work work work platforms. It's on all digital platforms 800 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,800 Speaker 1: and streaming services, so you can download it from iTunes, 801 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 1: or you can stream and listen to it on Spotify, 802 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: Apple Music and also uh, you know YouTube of course, 803 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 1: and and I do have a Jodi Whiteley YouTube channel. 804 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: You're listening to money making Conversations with Rashan McDonald will 805 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 1: be right back. Cars today are like a computer on wheels, 806 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: but you can fix any of these new features yourself. 807 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 1: So when something breaks, it could cause you a fortune, 808 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 1: and now it's not the time for expensive repairs. 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I'm your host, 826 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. No, no, I don't know that Chalnel. I 827 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 1: know a Miss Jodie Waterley YouTube channel. I don't know 828 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 1: Jodie Watterley YouTube child. That must be That must be 829 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: like a knockoff. That must be a knock because I 830 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 1: say I only talking to Miss Jordie Watten This is 831 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: a Miss Jori Watle YouTube town line. I'm promoted and 832 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,720 Speaker 1: now I'm I'm just gonna throw the room miss in front. 833 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 1: That's how I mentioned, That's how I met it. I 834 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,800 Speaker 1: love talking about you. Now let's get to the hoop 835 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:52,840 Speaker 1: ere ring now it rings. Now who thought of this idea? 836 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,439 Speaker 1: And it sounds so much fun? Talk about the hoop 837 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 1: the rings, well, you know it's a Watley signature. The 838 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 1: jompbo cool bearings have been since my solo debut for 839 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 1: a New Love and People. Yeah, Joe Journey, if you 840 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 1: saw me doing some bad dance and moves, you know 841 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 1: that the old man moved. You know, I really think 842 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,320 Speaker 1: I'm still got it going on. But obviously if you 843 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,840 Speaker 1: saw me, you go, okay, stop, you really need to 844 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 1: stop trying to dance to that song like that I 845 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 1: just had to let you know that I was doing 846 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 1: some bad things over here, acting like I still had 847 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 1: a skill set. But I don't so the hoopiere rings 848 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,399 Speaker 1: because it's not so much fun. First of all, Miss 849 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,400 Speaker 1: joy Wer, Yeah, I'm enjoying this anyway because your energy 850 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 1: is just on fire. And let me just tell you something. 851 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 1: You know, we we live in a stressed time because 852 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:53,280 Speaker 1: of the fact that we um and I said that earlier. 853 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 1: We are talking about the election coming up, and it's 854 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,799 Speaker 1: just great fear, you know, as a as a black man, 855 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,880 Speaker 1: you know, as a black person in general. You know, 856 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 1: but the police has not been uh, throughout our lives, 857 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 1: not something recently. We've always had concerns when we got 858 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:13,760 Speaker 1: pulled over, especially at night, and so unfortunately for George Floyd, 859 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 1: white people see it for the first time or acknowledge 860 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 1: it being stunned. Okay, yeah, and going really it was 861 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 1: eight minutes they didn't stop. Because I like it when 862 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 1: I see white people out there protesting for for my cause. Yes, 863 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 1: I and I agree with you because I think that 864 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,760 Speaker 1: will make the ultimate difference, because, like you said, we 865 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 1: were used to this, unfortunately, but it's gonna take white people, 866 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 1: um to get involved. So seeing them out there protesting 867 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 1: and you know, I mean, you know, painting Black Lives 868 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,840 Speaker 1: Matter on their cars and businesses and everything. But we 869 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 1: really do need um some change here and um you know, 870 00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,919 Speaker 1: but they that was a big difference because I've never 871 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:06,800 Speaker 1: saying that many uh you know that diversity. Yeah, I 872 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 1: was stunning myself. Okay, you know when you when you 873 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 1: see it march, you know, Okay, white people, white people 874 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 1: walking by the camera, white people, white people, black white people, 875 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 1: white people, black black, white people, white people. Okay, we 876 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 1: need this, We need this because because because of the 877 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,280 Speaker 1: fact that it's not it doesn't become like these horrible 878 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 1: black people out here tearing up our cities. These horrible 879 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 1: black people. You know, you have to be fearful of them. 880 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,880 Speaker 1: You know, lock your doors, don't let them in your neighborhood. 881 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,719 Speaker 1: They're gonna tear up your city. And that's what that's 882 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,920 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen without their participation. And so because I 883 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 1: because I could, I can sell you an iconic individual 884 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 1: because of the fact that when you these hoop ear rings, 885 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,360 Speaker 1: when you can take a signature piece like a hoop 886 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 1: ear ring, you know, and then and then the people 887 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 1: recognize as a style and then you said, you know something, 888 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make this a fashion moment and then people 889 00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 1: buy it. How does that make you feel? I mean 890 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 1: I feel very empowered by that. And um, you know, 891 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:09,719 Speaker 1: as a black woman, it's you know, um to be 892 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 1: part of you know, other black artists that trends that 893 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 1: really transmitt being on the music and so to be 894 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 1: in that category of style icon or you know things 895 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:26,359 Speaker 1: of that nature. Um, it's a good ceiling because it's 896 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,799 Speaker 1: like it's it's me. It's a part of who I am. 897 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:35,240 Speaker 1: And bringing great style and class has been always very 898 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 1: important to me. Now let's let's get the real deal. Now. 899 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 1: When I've been waiting on the kitchen talk, she dropped 900 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,240 Speaker 1: a little you know, when I was in junior high. 901 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,880 Speaker 1: You know, I fry fish, she makes some cupcakes and 902 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 1: all that stuff. She she was just setting us up 903 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 1: that she didn't just start cooking last week. Oh she 904 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 1: didn't just start cooking doing the pandemic. Just like act 905 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 1: like she don't have nothing to do. I've been get 906 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 1: to the middle school. Yeah, okay, cool. So, uh, you know, 907 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,279 Speaker 1: I'm if anybody knows anything about me, Jody, is that 908 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,759 Speaker 1: I'm a foodie. I love food. I will eat my 909 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,960 Speaker 1: dessert for I eat my meal in public and take 910 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 1: them to the fine out in restaurant. I go, excuse me, 911 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 1: excuse me, give me my dessert. Men and people have 912 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 1: looked at me strange and go or you do that stuff. 913 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,719 Speaker 1: I needs to know what I'm gonna get right now, 914 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,480 Speaker 1: and so so talk about this whole, the early stages 915 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 1: of cooking and then cooking. Now you know and how 916 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,440 Speaker 1: does how does it? Is it a calm calming effect 917 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 1: for your life, for your career? And um, you know 918 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 1: because you know, because you know your fitness person school, 919 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 1: you probably eat a little bit different than me because 920 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,719 Speaker 1: I I'll make you mad. Jody be going because I 921 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 1: make a lot of people mad. People, How does he 922 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 1: stay like that and eat like that? I get there 923 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,520 Speaker 1: a lot for people. You make me sick. I get 924 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,360 Speaker 1: a lot of You make me sick with sean, you 925 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,799 Speaker 1: get on my nerves, get out my face. You know. 926 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:07,360 Speaker 1: I eat a double king burger with relish double cheese, uh, 927 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 1: with large fat fries and a large strawberry shake, and 928 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:19,960 Speaker 1: won't miss a beat. If that's a fat that's a 929 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,759 Speaker 1: fat burger for people. Don't knew. She knew exactly what 930 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:27,439 Speaker 1: I was talking about. In fact, it's funny you should 931 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,200 Speaker 1: mention fat burger because the original uh well you said, 932 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 1: the popular one used to be in l A in 933 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 1: the kind of the Beverly Hills area, and it used 934 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 1: to be the spot people would go there and be 935 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: parked out there on the weekend. Mean, it was the best. 936 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,799 Speaker 1: So yeah, I know about that burger. She didn't break, 937 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 1: She didn't break. Try when I started ralling off that men, yeah, yeah, 938 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,479 Speaker 1: that's a king burger. That's double king right now. Yeah, yeah, 939 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 1: come a large, she said. He he talking about here, 940 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,240 Speaker 1: talking about fat right there? Lord strawberry shake yeppy. Yeah. 941 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,759 Speaker 1: He really on point when everything he's said right there. 942 00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,800 Speaker 1: He has not stuff. He is truly a guy who's 943 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:16,240 Speaker 1: been in fat bergs. And I you know, I love 944 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,759 Speaker 1: I love food. Um, you know, I started cooking and 945 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,759 Speaker 1: junior high the necessity initially because my mom and dad 946 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,960 Speaker 1: split up. And when I did with my dad, um 947 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,520 Speaker 1: somebody had to do the cooking. So my mom was 948 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 1: a good because so I just kind of remember things 949 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,799 Speaker 1: that she made and and so you know, growing up, 950 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,800 Speaker 1: I've always enjoyed cooking. It's relaxing. Um. You know, like 951 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,680 Speaker 1: I said, I've been in entertainment for you know, most 952 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 1: of my life since a teenager. So it's always a 953 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,360 Speaker 1: treat to make a home cook meal, being home and 954 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:55,239 Speaker 1: people look at me and say, oh, she probably can't cook. Absolutely. 955 00:51:55,360 --> 00:52:00,000 Speaker 1: You know you're attractive, you know everything. Yeah, everybody don't know. Yeah, 956 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,719 Speaker 1: and you know you don't look like you have bad days, 957 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 1: you know for people look people look at they make 958 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,319 Speaker 1: assessments of you. You know what you didn't cook? Look 959 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 1: at that, you know the second time. You know, I'm saying, 960 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:15,399 Speaker 1: that's jolly right. You know, you know she probably has 961 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:20,840 Speaker 1: somebody because but I love to cook, cook, and I 962 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,600 Speaker 1: love to bake. One of my favorite things to bake 963 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,520 Speaker 1: my kids. I have a daughter and a son. They're 964 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:30,759 Speaker 1: young adults now, but Thankgiving, I do uh tiny butter 965 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 1: rolls and from scratch with the yeast that rises, that 966 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,799 Speaker 1: take three hours and the whole bit. But it's all 967 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,439 Speaker 1: with love. So I think I love you could love 968 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 1: into cooking like so, I understand your passion. And and 969 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 1: food is a thing like music. It makes pepepel happy too, 970 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 1: doesn't that? Well, it makes me happy. And I know 971 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,440 Speaker 1: I'm having a fantastic time, you know, talking to you 972 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,879 Speaker 1: about just life in general, because of the fact that 973 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,680 Speaker 1: you know, first of all, your an entrepreneur and you're 974 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:04,960 Speaker 1: end penny thinker and uh and the part about success, 975 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 1: I know that and I tell people all the time. 976 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,719 Speaker 1: You know, being successful in the entertainment business is rough 977 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,319 Speaker 1: because everybody sees your can see you. Okay, you know 978 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,480 Speaker 1: you've been successful at IBM. Nobody sees you. I'm not 979 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,200 Speaker 1: saying this name, but nobody sees you. But when you're entertainment, 980 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,799 Speaker 1: they see you. They know that they might know how 981 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 1: much money you make, and they can they know the 982 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 1: ticket prices, they know the size of the venues you play, 983 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,800 Speaker 1: and so that takes a mental toll on what people 984 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,719 Speaker 1: can perceive you being a wanting to be a capable 985 00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,839 Speaker 1: of producing and so so it's important that these relationships. 986 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,279 Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna let you know, Jody, I'm in 987 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,759 Speaker 1: your life now. Okay, So so you know you you 988 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,160 Speaker 1: got stuff dropping, don't you don't don't do don't you 989 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,000 Speaker 1: go nowhere? Said I forgot about you. Said it's gonna 990 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,399 Speaker 1: be a problem between me and you, Miss Jody Ride. 991 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,000 Speaker 1: I'm just let you know. You know, around there trying 992 00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,000 Speaker 1: to shut down your YouTube channel. That's what I'm gonna 993 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 1: be doing that, you know. You know there's Brushawn's trolling 994 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 1: Jody wild Lean on social media. He's crazy, man, He's crazy. Joe. 995 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,680 Speaker 1: I only did one interview with I don't know what's 996 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 1: wrong with the dude. I just do want any of 997 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 1: you to do he controlling me because somebody stop him. No, 998 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:19,520 Speaker 1: I'm just know. It's a joy. It's a complete joy 999 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,120 Speaker 1: because I wanted to meet you and you're a person 1000 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,920 Speaker 1: that because even though you're behind the scenes, I want 1001 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,360 Speaker 1: to tell you, I'm the kind of person like I 1002 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:33,960 Speaker 1: like researching people like well, who especially successful people as 1003 00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,719 Speaker 1: well schools on this team? Who you know? And then 1004 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,600 Speaker 1: again it goes back to when I was middle and 1005 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,680 Speaker 1: I used to read about four models and I was like, 1006 00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,600 Speaker 1: I wonder who who runs for my models? And I 1007 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 1: went to the library and looked up I Leaning Forward. 1008 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,120 Speaker 1: So I like to know about people. So I've been 1009 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,799 Speaker 1: knowing about you for a long time. You and I 1010 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 1: have so much respect for you. So you control me 1011 00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:01,160 Speaker 1: all you like, well, but before go, I don't want 1012 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:02,600 Speaker 1: to I can't be you know, I kind of you 1013 00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,439 Speaker 1: know people get mad. Well, he was starting talking about 1014 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,560 Speaker 1: the kitchen. Didn't you just stop talking? So let's talk 1015 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,440 Speaker 1: about that the kitchen. What you're doing now, what's some 1016 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,400 Speaker 1: of your favorite meals? And because you mentioned you mentioned 1017 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:17,279 Speaker 1: some good Southern starters, frave fishing cupcakes. Just to get 1018 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,160 Speaker 1: some good black people rolling right there, right there, right there, 1019 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,759 Speaker 1: talk about you talking about your kitchen skills. Well, you 1020 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,480 Speaker 1: know what one thing I encourage people that follow me, 1021 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:32,120 Speaker 1: I do meatless Monday. Um. Last week I did a 1022 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:36,120 Speaker 1: black eyed tea and um, so I you know, gave 1023 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,400 Speaker 1: the recipe and everything, and I had it with a 1024 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,879 Speaker 1: chale salad because I in this pandemic. Also, everybody can 1025 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:49,600 Speaker 1: be always felt and have a double double. Are you 1026 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,239 Speaker 1: trying to hit at me? Are you trying to hit 1027 00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 1: at me? I'm the only person on this call talking 1028 00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:04,799 Speaker 1: about a double double double me double tee. Stop mixing up. 1029 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,960 Speaker 1: So I share healthy recipes and um, and then you know, 1030 00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:13,080 Speaker 1: my cheat days, my indulgences and everything. Because also being 1031 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,680 Speaker 1: a woman's like, people would look at you different. So 1032 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,600 Speaker 1: I try to stay in shape. But I let people 1033 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:24,280 Speaker 1: know you can have robust, the wealth season, great healthy 1034 00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,600 Speaker 1: food and then you can have your cheat days where 1035 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,319 Speaker 1: you can have your fried chickens and you know, with 1036 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,799 Speaker 1: extra hot sauce on it and greens with meat, but 1037 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,319 Speaker 1: you can also have the greens without me, so you know. 1038 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:39,799 Speaker 1: I so I mixed it up and you know, and 1039 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,680 Speaker 1: to inspire others. Okay, cool, let mesk you. These are 1040 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,960 Speaker 1: like short videos or or that you can upload and 1041 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,280 Speaker 1: stuff like that or huh, they just you you shoot 1042 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,440 Speaker 1: them live and that's where they live on your social media. 1043 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 1: I put them on my website. Jodi Whitley got net 1044 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,560 Speaker 1: do a blog. I don't seem them yet. Well not true, 1045 00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,839 Speaker 1: I do, okay if you feel them and it's short 1046 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,480 Speaker 1: versions with me and I put on my Saturday because 1047 00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 1: I always you know, I had TM TRMORI just recent relationships, 1048 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,400 Speaker 1: you know all that. I would love to post some 1049 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,319 Speaker 1: of your work. If you have photos, if you have 1050 00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,160 Speaker 1: photos of food that you've cooked and just a recipe, 1051 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,840 Speaker 1: I post that. Let's let's do that, let's have let's 1052 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:21,560 Speaker 1: have some fun with this, and let's have some fun 1053 00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:25,040 Speaker 1: with two photos and some recipes. I start posting it 1054 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,600 Speaker 1: on Saturday, just just you know, just having fun, just 1055 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,800 Speaker 1: showing people another great side of your your brain, your career, 1056 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,240 Speaker 1: what you're doing out there, but more important than just 1057 00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 1: having fun in life, you know, because people need to 1058 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,400 Speaker 1: see that and and it's it's just amazing. So so 1059 00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:42,200 Speaker 1: let's tell everybody about social media girl and your websites. 1060 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,800 Speaker 1: And you know it's it's thirty minutes now. You know 1061 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,880 Speaker 1: we've been talking for thirty minutes. You know that, Jody. 1062 00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:50,680 Speaker 1: It's just so quick. I've knowl you all my life. 1063 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:54,800 Speaker 1: We're just out. If you're thirty minutes, Joy, I'm just 1064 00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:58,320 Speaker 1: gonna let you know. It's so funny people you're talking 1065 00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,960 Speaker 1: to Shine, I go, hey, dude, it's thirty minutes. We 1066 00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:05,400 Speaker 1: really need stout so people get there a lot to go. Wow, 1067 00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,000 Speaker 1: that's it. That's it cool. So tell me about your 1068 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,920 Speaker 1: social and your website. And you owe me before we eat? 1069 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,840 Speaker 1: Ow you owe me, um, you know the facial mask. 1070 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,040 Speaker 1: You on me candles and you owe me some. You 1071 00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,320 Speaker 1: on me some photos of food along with the recipes. 1072 00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:25,480 Speaker 1: And I swear to you, Jody, I will post and 1073 00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,480 Speaker 1: I swear to you. I put it I I I 1074 00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 1: don't ever get on this. And if you're talking about something, 1075 00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:34,800 Speaker 1: I want to I have committed to your success, continued success. 1076 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,800 Speaker 1: Let me see it straight. Your continued success and just 1077 00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:39,800 Speaker 1: being able to share another side of you as an 1078 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,480 Speaker 1: entrepreneur and a home or home body. That's what I 1079 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,600 Speaker 1: call people cook at the whole bodies. You know, entrepreneur 1080 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,800 Speaker 1: is the is the sanctuary candles and the facial mask. 1081 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:52,960 Speaker 1: That's the entrepreneur side of you. And when you're and 1082 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,840 Speaker 1: now my headquarters is in Atlanta. I have in my 1083 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,280 Speaker 1: office my building, brought a building. I'm just gonna brag 1084 00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 1: a little bit of the big build and so and so. 1085 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,680 Speaker 1: I have a full full kitchen in my building. When 1086 00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,720 Speaker 1: you come to Atlanta, invite you to come by and 1087 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna cook in the kitchen and we're gonna videotape it. Okay, 1088 00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:15,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna put that on social media. Okay, we're gonna 1089 00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,320 Speaker 1: know I just we're gonna do with Jodie. We're gonna 1090 00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,960 Speaker 1: argue in the kitchen. That's gonna be fun. Okay. What 1091 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:21,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna do is come my kids to tell me 1092 00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:27,000 Speaker 1: what to do. I can tell that, but I have 1093 00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:39,160 Speaker 1: a lively time. Ms. Joe Rochan tell us about your 1094 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,040 Speaker 1: social media and website. Joe that you've been so much fun. 1095 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:46,360 Speaker 1: Let's let's get it out there. Okay, all my socials 1096 00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,880 Speaker 1: are verified Joe Watley j O d Y W T 1097 00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,760 Speaker 1: l Y because you know, some people still can't sell 1098 00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:58,440 Speaker 1: website that Joe Watley dot net and it links to 1099 00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:03,360 Speaker 1: all my socials, Mike and everything, so I'm very accessible. 1100 01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:07,600 Speaker 1: And at your girl. Howlet you girl hollowized your girl 1101 01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:09,720 Speaker 1: for thirty minutes and it's been awesome, and you know 1102 01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,880 Speaker 1: you're you have called blast to come on my show 1103 01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,280 Speaker 1: again in the future. Because what we're gonna do when 1104 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,040 Speaker 1: you get near Christmas like November, wanta come on back? 1105 01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,800 Speaker 1: Promote stuff that you know, the Hoopie rank and all 1106 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,000 Speaker 1: that stuff I so people can buy for Christmas. President 1107 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,280 Speaker 1: get that hype rolling. And then I always do like 1108 01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:27,640 Speaker 1: a Black Monday, and I dropped all my friends stuff 1109 01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,160 Speaker 1: in there and I put it out on social media 1110 01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:32,760 Speaker 1: does really well. So know that that the Rushawn got 1111 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:36,000 Speaker 1: you already lined up for for some addition, as they say, 1112 01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:42,000 Speaker 1: mailbox money, Joey, I love you girl, Thank you, Thank 1113 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,120 Speaker 1: you for coming on Money Making Conversations. Okay, we talked 1114 01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:47,560 Speaker 1: soon alright, bye bye bye all. If you want to 1115 01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:49,520 Speaker 1: hear more money making conversation and if you please go 1116 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,320 Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversation dot com. I'm with Sean McDonald. 1117 01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:56,040 Speaker 1: I am your host. My next guest as a young 1118 01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,920 Speaker 1: man who's rising above those bigger obstacles and living his 1119 01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,920 Speaker 1: dream and dreams are big and he's accomplished a lot 1120 01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:05,120 Speaker 1: of big things. My next guest is Johee Winston. He 1121 01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:09,320 Speaker 1: currently resides in Atlanta, Georgia, john He and George playing baseball, singing, 1122 01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:13,520 Speaker 1: and working on building his nonprofit organization called You Can Too, 1123 01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,680 Speaker 1: which encourages kids to pursue their dreams and the arts 1124 01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:20,960 Speaker 1: and education. His career started on on Broadway, New York Broadway, 1125 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:24,680 Speaker 1: The Broadway Broadway as Young Simba and Disney production The 1126 01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,360 Speaker 1: Lion King. He has shared the screen with Kevin Hart 1127 01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,640 Speaker 1: to Roger p Henson, starting the Netflix series Everybody Sucks, 1128 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,479 Speaker 1: played a young Ralph trust fand in a new edition 1129 01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,840 Speaker 1: story and It is now starring in charm City Kings 1130 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:40,520 Speaker 1: with Meek Mill which will be streaming on HBO Max. 1131 01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,200 Speaker 1: I have seen the movie. It's fantastic. Please welcome to 1132 01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:49,000 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations. Jahi Winston. Hello, Hello, thank you for 1133 01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,760 Speaker 1: having me. Well, thank you the Johnny. Can I ask 1134 01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:55,800 Speaker 1: you how old you are? Right now? Fifteen years old, 1135 01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:59,680 Speaker 1: and you have a foundation, a nonprofit organization called You 1136 01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:04,440 Speaker 1: Can't Into HOWL. Is that nonprofit? UM, it's sixteen years old. 1137 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:12,280 Speaker 1: We started it, I think maybe eighteen right around UM 1138 01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:16,720 Speaker 1: ten closer, Yeah, yeah, Okay, tell us what it is 1139 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,680 Speaker 1: because this is really interesting that you know, you're fifteen. 1140 01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,800 Speaker 1: Most people are concerned about I'm not saying that their selfish, 1141 01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,520 Speaker 1: but concerned about their own personal gains. And here you 1142 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,360 Speaker 1: are trying to get back and help on individuals because 1143 01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,400 Speaker 1: we all know that arts and education is a tough 1144 01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,720 Speaker 1: field to get into and to pursue as of success. 1145 01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,960 Speaker 1: So you decided to start something. Tell us about what 1146 01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:43,880 Speaker 1: exactly it is and how can students participate? Well, You 1147 01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:49,120 Speaker 1: Can't Do is a nonprofit organization, and basically we UM 1148 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:53,200 Speaker 1: mostly operating marginalized communities, whether it be in the city 1149 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:57,280 Speaker 1: or Atlanta, d C. Or anywhere UM in the country. 1150 01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:03,960 Speaker 1: UM and or innovation that allows and helps young kids 1151 01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:07,840 Speaker 1: in those Martina communities specifically to achieve their dreams and 1152 01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:12,200 Speaker 1: go after whatever they want because often times the environments 1153 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,480 Speaker 1: where the resources are a lot um here than maybe 1154 01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:20,520 Speaker 1: the middle class suburbs of Georgia or anywhere else you 1155 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:24,320 Speaker 1: don't have the resources and you don't have the the 1156 01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,440 Speaker 1: visibility to actually see and be able to accomplish your 1157 01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,640 Speaker 1: dreams and your goals, and so um, we get tools 1158 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:34,600 Speaker 1: and we go into schools and talk. Obviously I can't 1159 01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,880 Speaker 1: do that now because of the pandemic, but uh, that's 1160 01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:41,880 Speaker 1: primarily the work that we do in marginalized community. Do 1161 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,400 Speaker 1: you do anything now because of the pandemic or you know, 1162 01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:49,080 Speaker 1: via zoom or via any virtual platforms. Well, we're trying 1163 01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:52,200 Speaker 1: to brainstorm and try to come up ways and innovative 1164 01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,040 Speaker 1: ways that we can still be productive during this time. 1165 01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:58,880 Speaker 1: That's sort of been what we've been doing during quarantine, 1166 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,000 Speaker 1: is just trying to bring one and come up with 1167 01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,160 Speaker 1: different ways that we can expand and still be productive 1168 01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,800 Speaker 1: during the pandemic. You know, I have I have the 1169 01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,920 Speaker 1: honor of and this is just listening to you talk 1170 01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:14,680 Speaker 1: and watching your career, and I have a something that 1171 01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:18,640 Speaker 1: honor black men. It's called the Cafe Moka Swag Award 1172 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:24,680 Speaker 1: Carrio because it's a female centric syndicated show for women 1173 01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,600 Speaker 1: of color. Like one point forward million women listen to 1174 01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,280 Speaker 1: the show weekly on syndications. The Weekend Show and the 1175 01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:33,400 Speaker 1: Cafe Maka Swagger was a celebration of black men who 1176 01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,320 Speaker 1: are making a difference in our community by empowering others 1177 01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:39,920 Speaker 1: to reach their life goals, from civic leaders, businessmen, activists, 1178 01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:43,400 Speaker 1: celebrities and everyday dads. I'm gonna tell you something, joh 1179 01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:49,000 Speaker 1: he I've never given that award to a teenager until now. 1180 01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:56,560 Speaker 1: Oh wow. Um, you know, because because see, you know, 1181 01:04:56,640 --> 01:05:00,800 Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to saying the thing that, um 1182 01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,400 Speaker 1: just you know. You know what I do research for 1183 01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,520 Speaker 1: I do an interview, and so I get a pretty 1184 01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:07,919 Speaker 1: good grasp of what a person I'm talking to. That's 1185 01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:09,760 Speaker 1: why some of the interviews they sent come to the 1186 01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:11,440 Speaker 1: question they sent to me. I go all page and 1187 01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,840 Speaker 1: people go nobody has ever asked that question because I'm 1188 01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,680 Speaker 1: actually I kind of gotta sense. I'm a former entertainer. 1189 01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,240 Speaker 1: I manage some of the biggest stars in this country, 1190 01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,640 Speaker 1: and currently manage one of the biggest stars in this country. 1191 01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,160 Speaker 1: And I produced a lot of TV shows. And when 1192 01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:28,640 Speaker 1: I when I hear a young man who's fifteen years old, who, 1193 01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,840 Speaker 1: like I said, who's making a difference in our community 1194 01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:39,200 Speaker 1: by empowering others to reach their life goals, that's you Uh, Sody, 1195 01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,760 Speaker 1: why is that important to you to help people and 1196 01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:49,000 Speaker 1: ok young people to reach their life goals? Oh? Man, 1197 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:53,800 Speaker 1: I think just everything that I do from a place 1198 01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:58,320 Speaker 1: of wanting to to help first and foremost my people, UM, 1199 01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:02,400 Speaker 1: black people, not only with my people, but primarily my people, 1200 01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:06,560 Speaker 1: because UM, you know, just the way that our societal 1201 01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:10,680 Speaker 1: structure is in the hierarchical nature of it. Oftentimes, if 1202 01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:15,440 Speaker 1: you are black and you are marginalized, you are born 1203 01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:20,280 Speaker 1: with more strikes on even um our Caucasian brothers and sisters. 1204 01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:24,360 Speaker 1: So I think knowing that and being aware of that, 1205 01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:28,160 Speaker 1: it makes you responsible because once you're educated on and 1206 01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,520 Speaker 1: once you're aware of it, you now have a responsibility. 1207 01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,360 Speaker 1: You have the tools, and you have the resources, and 1208 01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:37,160 Speaker 1: so now it's your responsibility to do something about that 1209 01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:41,080 Speaker 1: and to make sure that UM. Just because someone is 1210 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:45,440 Speaker 1: UM maybe less fortunate when it comes to privilege and power, 1211 01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:49,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that they can't have the same access 1212 01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:52,840 Speaker 1: to UM their dreams and their goals as anyone else 1213 01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,680 Speaker 1: who does have that privilege. Is born with that privilege 1214 01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:59,400 Speaker 1: and that power. And so that's where all of my 1215 01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,560 Speaker 1: work comes from, whether it be the roles that I take, 1216 01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:04,320 Speaker 1: whether it be the work that I do off screen 1217 01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:07,520 Speaker 1: and the stories that I write and create and curate. 1218 01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,200 Speaker 1: I always want to come from a place of Okay, 1219 01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,640 Speaker 1: how is my community going to feel about this? And 1220 01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:15,200 Speaker 1: how can I service my community? But as by doing 1221 01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:18,440 Speaker 1: this cool, I want to I wanna go to the 1222 01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:22,280 Speaker 1: movie that's currently out, that's be out HBO Max and 1223 01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:25,760 Speaker 1: October October eight, that be in fact called Chomp City Kings, 1224 01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:28,680 Speaker 1: and I want to wrap that Raptors conversation up with 1225 01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:30,640 Speaker 1: would be in great detail. I want to go back 1226 01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:33,360 Speaker 1: to the young Simber days and all these other opportunities 1227 01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:37,000 Speaker 1: you have. But I watched Chomp Sages. I couldn't take 1228 01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:40,280 Speaker 1: my eyes off a young man. You have the ability 1229 01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:46,280 Speaker 1: to wait for the moment. You have an uncanny skill 1230 01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:53,880 Speaker 1: where you're dynamic enough to understand that sometimes you don't 1231 01:07:53,880 --> 01:08:00,360 Speaker 1: have to say something to be effective. Mhm. That's a 1232 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,880 Speaker 1: I'm telling you when I right now, I'm visually going 1233 01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,720 Speaker 1: through different scenes. One of my favorite scenes was I've 1234 01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,439 Speaker 1: seen the movie twice. I usually when I'm engaged in something, 1235 01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:11,360 Speaker 1: I gotta gonna see this again, you know, because you 1236 01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,920 Speaker 1: know when you see something I'm saying, Johnny, when you 1237 01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,400 Speaker 1: see something two or three times. Actually, you really enjoy 1238 01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:19,200 Speaker 1: it more because you start really because you you already 1239 01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,160 Speaker 1: know it's coming up, so you kind of see it 1240 01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,960 Speaker 1: a little bit different. Oh, I didn't see that. And 1241 01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,639 Speaker 1: one of my favorite scenes when Black shows up at 1242 01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:29,400 Speaker 1: the summer run and then you just standing at him, man, 1243 01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,080 Speaker 1: and that's the moment I'm talking to you. Didn't have 1244 01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:37,200 Speaker 1: to say anything, but you knew your acting ability showed 1245 01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:44,840 Speaker 1: me how important he was in your life. Tell me 1246 01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:49,320 Speaker 1: about that skill set, Tell me about that a build. Um. 1247 01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:53,960 Speaker 1: I think that's just UM, I don't know, thank you. UM. 1248 01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,960 Speaker 1: I think that's just I skill something that I picked up. 1249 01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:01,120 Speaker 1: I am. I gotta really great compliments from a producer. 1250 01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,040 Speaker 1: UM when I was working on film that I did 1251 01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:08,240 Speaker 1: a few years ago. Uh, and he said that the 1252 01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:11,920 Speaker 1: reason that I got the job was basically what she said, 1253 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:15,080 Speaker 1: my ability. It wasn't what I said. Is what I 1254 01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:19,040 Speaker 1: didn't say that really, UM allowed me to get that job. 1255 01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:22,719 Speaker 1: And so I think just focusing on that and naturally, 1256 01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:24,800 Speaker 1: when you're in the moment as an actor, you know 1257 01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,400 Speaker 1: if you're doing your right. I think every actor or 1258 01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:32,600 Speaker 1: should possess that ability to still emote and still be 1259 01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:34,800 Speaker 1: in the moment, even when they're not saying anything. So 1260 01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:37,720 Speaker 1: it really is, you know, and I'm not telling I'm 1261 01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:39,719 Speaker 1: not telling you going all this is not saying anything. 1262 01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:42,640 Speaker 1: Not here. I'm just not telling. Okay, now you gotta speak. Now, 1263 01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:46,000 Speaker 1: you gotta speak. But you know the ability to trust yourself. 1264 01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:48,400 Speaker 1: And I want to go back because I saw Lion King. 1265 01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:51,839 Speaker 1: First time I saw Lyon King was in Los Angeles, Okay, 1266 01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:55,080 Speaker 1: And then I saw it in Las Vegas, and lay 1267 01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,760 Speaker 1: had merged. I went and saw it in New York City. 1268 01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:02,320 Speaker 1: That New York City show is a real deal, you know, 1269 01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:08,200 Speaker 1: yes it is. That's where first team first team, the 1270 01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:12,599 Speaker 1: first team first team. You know, you better have your 1271 01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:15,720 Speaker 1: act together in New York City at the Lion King 1272 01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:19,200 Speaker 1: New York City. Tell us about how that opportunity happened 1273 01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:22,120 Speaker 1: to you, happened for you to be young Simba in 1274 01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:24,400 Speaker 1: New York City, everybody live out of such a stages 1275 01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:26,920 Speaker 1: because there everybody thinks all the Lion Kings are like, no, 1276 01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:35,040 Speaker 1: they're not. They're good. They're good, right, but they are like, yeah, 1277 01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,280 Speaker 1: all of these productions are great. All I can say 1278 01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:40,519 Speaker 1: that all the productions I think are great. Um, but 1279 01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:43,280 Speaker 1: you're right, I mean it's the flash your production, so 1280 01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:47,760 Speaker 1: it definitely it's different UM. But I will say the 1281 01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:51,840 Speaker 1: modified version, the modified story of how I became a 1282 01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,880 Speaker 1: part of the Lion King. UM. A friend of my 1283 01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:58,880 Speaker 1: brothers UM sent over the audition for an open casting 1284 01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,880 Speaker 1: call for young SIMS was in young knowledge to be 1285 01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,560 Speaker 1: in the Broadway production, in the National Tool production of 1286 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:08,559 Speaker 1: The Lion King. UM to that audition and that that 1287 01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:12,400 Speaker 1: first audition there was about UM five hundred kids there. 1288 01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:15,920 Speaker 1: And for those who aren't familiar with a UM an 1289 01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:19,719 Speaker 1: open casting call, it's basically it's not just for professional 1290 01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:23,120 Speaker 1: actors for everyone. It's for everybody. You know, they call 1291 01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,519 Speaker 1: pooking them everybody to come down an audition for it. 1292 01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,360 Speaker 1: So I went to that audition, I ended up getting 1293 01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:32,760 Speaker 1: a callback. I got another callback after that audition, and 1294 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,040 Speaker 1: then I went to New York City to audition in 1295 01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:39,720 Speaker 1: front of the executives or the the yes, the executives 1296 01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:43,719 Speaker 1: for the for the Lion King on Broadway, and I 1297 01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,320 Speaker 1: ended up getting the role two days later, and I 1298 01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:48,519 Speaker 1: moved to New York with my mom and we lived 1299 01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:53,679 Speaker 1: in a shoebox department for about fifteen months. And after 1300 01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,679 Speaker 1: that I got UM the new Audition story and everything 1301 01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:02,719 Speaker 1: just sort of started having to that production. You're listening 1302 01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:06,559 Speaker 1: to money making conversations with Rashan McDonald will be right back. 1303 01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,000 Speaker 1: Cars today are like a computer on wheels, but you 1304 01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,479 Speaker 1: can't fix any of these new features yourself. So when 1305 01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,760 Speaker 1: something breaks, it could cause you a fortune. And now 1306 01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,360 Speaker 1: it's not the time for expensive repairs. That's why you 1307 01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:19,600 Speaker 1: need car Shield. 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I'm your host, Sean McDonald. 1324 01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:13,360 Speaker 1: Now let's let's let's get back to Chomp City Mom. 1325 01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:15,880 Speaker 1: I'm a bounce around because you you you, You're just 1326 01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:18,280 Speaker 1: so talented that every story gonna take me in a 1327 01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:21,320 Speaker 1: different direction, but it all leads back to Chop City 1328 01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:24,720 Speaker 1: kings How did that happen for you? My friend? That 1329 01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:29,760 Speaker 1: movie opportunity okay, um, just like any other I was, 1330 01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:34,280 Speaker 1: actually I was. There was a challenging year. I been 1331 01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:35,880 Speaker 1: in a movie that didn't do as well as that, 1332 01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:38,080 Speaker 1: though I was gonna do in a TV show that 1333 01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:40,439 Speaker 1: got canceled after one season, And in the midst of 1334 01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:42,120 Speaker 1: trying to figure out where I want, what I wanted 1335 01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,880 Speaker 1: to do next, and just trying to figure out what 1336 01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:47,719 Speaker 1: was the next stage in my career, the my agent 1337 01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:51,080 Speaker 1: sent over Trying City to script for Trum City Kings Um, 1338 01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:52,920 Speaker 1: and I put off reading it for a while because 1339 01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,400 Speaker 1: I was like, no, this isn't the right project, even 1340 01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,719 Speaker 1: though I hadn't read the script, but I auditioned for anyway. 1341 01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:02,000 Speaker 1: I put myself on tape and uh, I got a 1342 01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:06,040 Speaker 1: call back and they I read again, and then eventually 1343 01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:10,000 Speaker 1: I went to Los Angeles and I scream tested forward 1344 01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:13,840 Speaker 1: with Danielle Hansley m litt d and uh because I 1345 01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:15,639 Speaker 1: curd It, who are also in the movie that played. 1346 01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:18,400 Speaker 1: They played Lamont and swear to God, I screen tested 1347 01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:21,040 Speaker 1: with them, and I am screen testing in front of 1348 01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:25,080 Speaker 1: on held Manuel Soto, our director, and Uh, I think 1349 01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:28,559 Speaker 1: leaving that room, the three of us knew that mostly 1350 01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:32,400 Speaker 1: knew obviously that until we've gotten the job yet, but 1351 01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:34,920 Speaker 1: I think we could steal the energy that that we 1352 01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:38,280 Speaker 1: that we had done something, especially so maybe a week later. 1353 01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:43,519 Speaker 1: I think we got maybe a week later, which is 1354 01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:48,679 Speaker 1: which is unusual because sometimes it takes months. A week later, 1355 01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:56,519 Speaker 1: yeah later, you know what I'm saying exactly for real, 1356 01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:59,320 Speaker 1: It was dahnhing. But like I said, I think we 1357 01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:02,080 Speaker 1: knew from the energy in the room, just the chemistry 1358 01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:04,240 Speaker 1: between the three of us, that we that we had 1359 01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,559 Speaker 1: done something, specially if we knew nothing else, we knew 1360 01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:08,439 Speaker 1: that we had sort of killed the audition and that 1361 01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:12,200 Speaker 1: we had a special chemistry and bond on screen. Um. 1362 01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:15,559 Speaker 1: And so a week later they said that they wanted me, 1363 01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:18,200 Speaker 1: and we worked out the deal and I was still 1364 01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:20,360 Speaker 1: sort of uncertain, but I was like, all right, I'm 1365 01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:22,280 Speaker 1: gonna trust my gun. I'm sure of God. And I 1366 01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:24,680 Speaker 1: and I went posting head and it was it was 1367 01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:28,080 Speaker 1: really cool. And I think, I'll say this about charm 1368 01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:31,800 Speaker 1: City Kings. It was my first time being at the 1369 01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:35,200 Speaker 1: center of the story, I'll see, um, And I definitely 1370 01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:39,479 Speaker 1: think that it sharpened my work essic. I worked very 1371 01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:43,280 Speaker 1: hard on an off screen you know. I would do 1372 01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:46,639 Speaker 1: maybe nine a half hour days, and I worked every 1373 01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:50,200 Speaker 1: single day, every single day of production I was there. Um. 1374 01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:52,120 Speaker 1: I think I had maybe a day and a half 1375 01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:55,040 Speaker 1: off and I worked every single day and I would 1376 01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,679 Speaker 1: come home to the hotel at night and still work 1377 01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:59,640 Speaker 1: on the script and work on the accident work of 1378 01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:02,840 Speaker 1: the die. I left like, I really worked hard on 1379 01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:05,280 Speaker 1: this and so this is a labor of love from 1380 01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:07,680 Speaker 1: all of us who are part of the film. And yeah, 1381 01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:11,360 Speaker 1: we're just really excited and proud of it for for sure. Now, 1382 01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,240 Speaker 1: when I when I hear you talk like this about it, 1383 01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:17,919 Speaker 1: I I do, I do I see a young director 1384 01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:22,760 Speaker 1: start would be born here? Uh, sir, John, do I 1385 01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:30,280 Speaker 1: hear uh? Uh? Your listen speak it. I would see it. Yeah, 1386 01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:33,479 Speaker 1: for sure, for sure, absolutely because of the fact that 1387 01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:36,439 Speaker 1: that uh when I when I you have first of all, 1388 01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:37,840 Speaker 1: you have a passion for you have a God give 1389 01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:41,440 Speaker 1: God to give you a brilliant talent that you're exercising 1390 01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:44,720 Speaker 1: and maximizing with hard work and focus. That's how you 1391 01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:48,880 Speaker 1: win long term. You don't win long term, you know, uh, 1392 01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:50,720 Speaker 1: just doing it when you feel like it. You know, 1393 01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,360 Speaker 1: you know you can't just because you can duntor basketball. 1394 01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:55,800 Speaker 1: I mean you can shoot shoot a basketball. We've learned 1395 01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:59,800 Speaker 1: that in life. And so Meek meals his role in 1396 01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:06,599 Speaker 1: the Umu mentor let's talk about his role off screen 1397 01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:14,960 Speaker 1: with you and because if it felt very genuine on screen, yeah, um, 1398 01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:19,120 Speaker 1: Meek and I. It was interesting because Meek released his 1399 01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:22,640 Speaker 1: his last song that he released, Championships. Uh, he was 1400 01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:26,280 Speaker 1: working on that while we were shooting the movie. And uh, 1401 01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:29,479 Speaker 1: he has an incredible work ethic that he was. He 1402 01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:33,000 Speaker 1: was going back and forth. I mean, you can't one 1403 01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:34,680 Speaker 1: of the things you can't say about me because that 1404 01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:37,960 Speaker 1: he doesn't work hard. He was extremely hard. Um and 1405 01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:41,080 Speaker 1: he was doing Championships while he was going coming back 1406 01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:44,439 Speaker 1: and forth doing shows, working on the album and doing 1407 01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:48,040 Speaker 1: the movie full time. So um, he has incredible work 1408 01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,599 Speaker 1: ethic and also, uh, one of the things that people 1409 01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:52,640 Speaker 1: don't know about him is that he's actually kind of 1410 01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:56,000 Speaker 1: shy and reserved unto himself. I would say, I think 1411 01:17:56,400 --> 01:18:00,000 Speaker 1: people have a preconceived notion of the rappers in general, 1412 01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:03,000 Speaker 1: just because of the field that they're in, Um, in 1413 01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:07,760 Speaker 1: the Braggadocian nature that is sort of required to do that. Um, 1414 01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:11,679 Speaker 1: but he's been He's a really nice and simple guy, 1415 01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:16,280 Speaker 1: really shy and UM. He came prepared, and you know, 1416 01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:19,120 Speaker 1: we all sort of it was a team effort to 1417 01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:21,320 Speaker 1: sort of make him feel comfortable because this is the 1418 01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:24,600 Speaker 1: first time, his first time doing like a movie of 1419 01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:27,519 Speaker 1: this magnitude and mine as well. So I think we 1420 01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:29,960 Speaker 1: sort of help each other out in that sense. Um. 1421 01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:33,160 Speaker 1: He would ask me questions and I would ask him questions. 1422 01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:35,120 Speaker 1: And the cool thing about it is we were both 1423 01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:38,920 Speaker 1: equally inquisitive when it came to how each of us worked, 1424 01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,240 Speaker 1: and I would watch him from the distance and sort 1425 01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:43,760 Speaker 1: of see how he worked. And now he got into it, 1426 01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:45,840 Speaker 1: and it wasn't It was really cool to get to 1427 01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:49,360 Speaker 1: work with him and see him become more and more 1428 01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:53,320 Speaker 1: immerged into the process at production went on. Now when 1429 01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:55,960 Speaker 1: you say the production, now, when we were talking about 1430 01:18:56,000 --> 01:19:00,880 Speaker 1: his three friends, young friends in this movie, and and uh, 1431 01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:03,479 Speaker 1: it likens me to another one of my favorite movies 1432 01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:06,800 Speaker 1: on a series on Showtime, The Shot. There's three young 1433 01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:10,840 Speaker 1: men in that series that I really really are emotionally 1434 01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:14,839 Speaker 1: have tied to and I worry about during the series. 1435 01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:17,120 Speaker 1: And and I think that's what happens when you have 1436 01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:20,760 Speaker 1: good chemistry in that television series is shot. And so 1437 01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:23,880 Speaker 1: now when I go to Chomp City Kings, I found 1438 01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:27,920 Speaker 1: myself worrying about you three little bad suckers, Okay, wondering 1439 01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:30,120 Speaker 1: about what you'all gonna get into that's not gonna lead 1440 01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:33,240 Speaker 1: to anything that's positive in your life. That's the chemistry 1441 01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:37,280 Speaker 1: you was talking about, creating relatable characters that people can 1442 01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:41,080 Speaker 1: like be motivated to root for and be saddened if 1443 01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:44,320 Speaker 1: they don't achieve the success that they're planning or shooting 1444 01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:46,840 Speaker 1: to get in life. That How did that How did 1445 01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:49,360 Speaker 1: that play itself out? When we talked about Meek Mill. 1446 01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:52,720 Speaker 1: But that chemistry that you three had on screen, I 1447 01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:55,080 Speaker 1: have on screen. Because the movie is coming out on 1448 01:19:55,240 --> 01:20:00,120 Speaker 1: HBO Max in October talk about that or I, as 1449 01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:04,640 Speaker 1: I said before, I think because I uh VD Danielle 1450 01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:09,200 Speaker 1: na Um, we knew believing the chemistry read that if 1451 01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:11,680 Speaker 1: even if we didn't get the job, we knew that 1452 01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:14,960 Speaker 1: we had done something special in the room. And we 1453 01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:19,680 Speaker 1: did the screen test, and uh, it was really amazing 1454 01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:22,839 Speaker 1: to see our bond develop and growth throughout the filming 1455 01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:26,080 Speaker 1: of the movie and for us to trust trust each 1456 01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:31,880 Speaker 1: other this um throughout the process of filming and um 1457 01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:35,600 Speaker 1: just get closer off screening on screen. It was that 1458 01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:39,559 Speaker 1: whole All of that, you know, goes into how well 1459 01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:41,559 Speaker 1: the chemistry is on screen, and I think we all 1460 01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:45,240 Speaker 1: knew that and on Hail, our director and our producer 1461 01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:49,040 Speaker 1: Kayley Pinkett knew that, Um, if the chemistry between us 1462 01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:52,320 Speaker 1: doesn't work, then the movie doesn't work. We are the 1463 01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:55,120 Speaker 1: center in the heart of the movie is there was 1464 01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:59,559 Speaker 1: the friendship between Lamont and Sweare to God. So I 1465 01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:05,040 Speaker 1: think knowing that and knowing the responsibility that allowed us 1466 01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:09,240 Speaker 1: to trust each other more in to give an authentic 1467 01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:12,320 Speaker 1: performance in the trade of his very authentic I'm talking 1468 01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:15,120 Speaker 1: to John he Winston to start parts Shines as it 1469 01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:18,880 Speaker 1: leads the highly acclaimed Sundance Award winning feature film Charm 1470 01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:21,680 Speaker 1: City Kings, which is an executive abuse by Will and 1471 01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,679 Speaker 1: Jada Smith, also starring My Man. We just talked about 1472 01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:28,160 Speaker 1: rapper Meek Mill and We're coming out and were released 1473 01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:33,679 Speaker 1: October eight on HBO. Max Um, Karen Hard on your resume. Okay, 1474 01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:35,720 Speaker 1: now we're gonna we're gonna start talking nors right now 1475 01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:38,479 Speaker 1: to your John Heat. Uh, to Roger B. Hinton on 1476 01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:42,960 Speaker 1: your resume. Okay, Uh you know, uh Will and Jason 1477 01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:47,160 Speaker 1: Smith on your resume. Uh, How am I talking to 1478 01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:49,000 Speaker 1: you John here? I don't I don't know if I'm 1479 01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:51,599 Speaker 1: I don't know if from flying in that that level 1480 01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:53,880 Speaker 1: of air right now? How am I talking to you? 1481 01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:56,479 Speaker 1: John Heat? Because you're you're you're up there, boy, you 1482 01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:59,439 Speaker 1: got your food. Change is pretty powerful right now. Talk 1483 01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:02,400 Speaker 1: to me about working with these people and what have 1484 01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:05,920 Speaker 1: they brought to you as far as because you're very mature, 1485 01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:09,000 Speaker 1: let's gonna just get that out the mature. You're very focused. 1486 01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:11,519 Speaker 1: You want of these kids who who get it early on. 1487 01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:15,280 Speaker 1: You always tell people, you know, President Obama didn't didn't 1488 01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:17,680 Speaker 1: think about being the president when he decided to run 1489 01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:20,680 Speaker 1: for president. He prepared to be a president. When I 1490 01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:22,600 Speaker 1: when I, when I did my homework on you and 1491 01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:25,479 Speaker 1: listening to this interview, this is something you wanted to do, man, 1492 01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:28,960 Speaker 1: and you you were preparing every day to be successful 1493 01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:31,599 Speaker 1: at it. And I saw it in Chomp City King 1494 01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:33,479 Speaker 1: more than anything, because, like you said, that was your 1495 01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:36,240 Speaker 1: first leading role. There's the first time putting yourself out 1496 01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:39,360 Speaker 1: there where if you suck, then the movie sucks. Of 1497 01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:41,920 Speaker 1: course it didn't happen because it was an award when 1498 01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:45,200 Speaker 1: you Feature film at sun Dance and so talk about 1499 01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:49,800 Speaker 1: working with these incredibly iconic talents that are recognizable on 1500 01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:53,439 Speaker 1: social media, that are recognizable, and then the magazine that 1501 01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:58,000 Speaker 1: they appear on, the they create engagement when they appear 1502 01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:00,960 Speaker 1: on TV and in the movies. Talk about those relationships 1503 01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:06,760 Speaker 1: started with my man Kevin hard Well, Uh, all of 1504 01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:11,000 Speaker 1: those um relationships and the dynamics and working with all 1505 01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:13,799 Speaker 1: those people have been great. But I would say about Kevin, 1506 01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:18,200 Speaker 1: Kevin is more than anything, He's just a genuine, nice, 1507 01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:22,519 Speaker 1: high and human being. I mean, I think I think 1508 01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:25,920 Speaker 1: that's the general consensus from everyone who has worked with him. 1509 01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:28,519 Speaker 1: Is just his his heart and his spirit and his 1510 01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:32,360 Speaker 1: energy on set. He exudes such positivity like that's not 1511 01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:35,960 Speaker 1: just his brand for no reason. The whole positivity thing 1512 01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,960 Speaker 1: and the positive vibe, like he exludes that on and 1513 01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:41,519 Speaker 1: off screen, when the cameras are on and when they're off. 1514 01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:45,479 Speaker 1: Um And Uh, he's just a naturally giving person. And 1515 01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:47,680 Speaker 1: like I said, he's just really kind and that's just 1516 01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,800 Speaker 1: who we used by nature. He doesn't know he can't 1517 01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:52,800 Speaker 1: be anything else. And that's when you know that he's 1518 01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:55,920 Speaker 1: genuine and authentic, when you know you really can't be 1519 01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:58,479 Speaker 1: you don't know how any other way to be, but 1520 01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:03,520 Speaker 1: who you are, which is uh giving and generous person. Uh. 1521 01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:08,400 Speaker 1: I'll say Taragi um was an incredible experience just because 1522 01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:10,840 Speaker 1: I literally grew up watching I grew up watching all 1523 01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:13,720 Speaker 1: of those people that you name, but well you only 1524 01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:24,880 Speaker 1: watching everybody, but uh, Aggie was pretty special just because 1525 01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:27,559 Speaker 1: you know, she sort of a hometown girl. My family 1526 01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:30,080 Speaker 1: is from d C. And she's from the same area 1527 01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:33,080 Speaker 1: as my mom and my my oun and where my 1528 01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:36,599 Speaker 1: mom grew up. So that was pretty special to do that. 1529 01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:40,000 Speaker 1: It was a full circle moment. Uh. And so my 1530 01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:43,160 Speaker 1: mom and Taraji used to go to the same hair 1531 01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:46,920 Speaker 1: style is back in the day, but they didn't know 1532 01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:50,760 Speaker 1: each other and my mom. This is crazy. My mom 1533 01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:54,559 Speaker 1: was in the salon the day before to Lodging left 1534 01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:58,559 Speaker 1: for Hollywood. Tarajia come in and said, the story is 1535 01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:01,639 Speaker 1: Targia come in and my hey, y'all, you know, make 1536 01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:05,720 Speaker 1: sure y'all tell me, you know, goodbye and wish me luck, 1537 01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:08,679 Speaker 1: because I used to go to l A tomorrow. Um, 1538 01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:12,080 Speaker 1: and my mom was the day that, the day before 1539 01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:16,599 Speaker 1: Saragi left to go to That's that's how twenty fis 1540 01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:19,800 Speaker 1: years later. You know, I got to work with her 1541 01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:23,439 Speaker 1: and we got to sort of my mom garragic got 1542 01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:25,960 Speaker 1: to sort of talked about that. But yeah, that was incredible, 1543 01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:29,000 Speaker 1: and you know, it's just all of these experiences have 1544 01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:32,120 Speaker 1: been really really beautiful in full circle. The fact that 1545 01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:34,560 Speaker 1: I'm still pinching myself, the fact that I get to 1546 01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:37,439 Speaker 1: work with them and bond with them and to sort 1547 01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:42,080 Speaker 1: of like my industry very godmother, you know, you go, 1548 01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:44,519 Speaker 1: you check in every now and then. I wish that 1549 01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:48,640 Speaker 1: happy birthday. So yeah, I'm really grateful for all of 1550 01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:53,400 Speaker 1: those relationships and experiences. Now, when you when you look 1551 01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:58,200 Speaker 1: at the life in general, um, I live in Atlanta, giant, 1552 01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:01,280 Speaker 1: you know, not trying to get into your life in 1553 01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:03,559 Speaker 1: the thing. But I do like your lot if you, 1554 01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:05,519 Speaker 1: if you could you tell me you're like, you know, 1555 01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:10,120 Speaker 1: your outdoorsy kind of a guy. Um, and the movie 1556 01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:14,240 Speaker 1: is about bikes, watching the skills sets out there. I 1557 01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:16,479 Speaker 1: just want to bounce back because I gotta talk about that, 1558 01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:19,360 Speaker 1: because Lord knows, I couldn't do none of the things 1559 01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:23,120 Speaker 1: those young men were doing skill set wise out there. 1560 01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:26,800 Speaker 1: With just talk about that experience in general, watching that 1561 01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:30,479 Speaker 1: and watching it being taped and realizing that that's a 1562 01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:33,880 Speaker 1: whole different level skill set level out there, that that's 1563 01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:38,200 Speaker 1: that's that's that's special. Oh my gosh. That was one 1564 01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:41,479 Speaker 1: of my favorite parts of Like any time my scene 1565 01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:43,640 Speaker 1: was a though, I would always we would because I 1566 01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:45,920 Speaker 1: did and out. We would always want to stay and 1567 01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,960 Speaker 1: watch the riders do their stunts because that was like 1568 01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:53,240 Speaker 1: the best part. Gino Braxton, Gino shout out Chino who's 1569 01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:56,080 Speaker 1: in the film. Uh he played Jamal in the film 1570 01:26:56,160 --> 01:27:00,040 Speaker 1: and uh he is known across the world. Not I 1571 01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:01,840 Speaker 1: was about to say the country, but across the world. 1572 01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:05,080 Speaker 1: That's one of the greatest dirt bike riders. Like in 1573 01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:08,679 Speaker 1: the game, like he's crazy, he can tap dance. I'm 1574 01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:12,519 Speaker 1: this is a non exaggeration. He could tap dance on 1575 01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:15,920 Speaker 1: the bike, wow, with one wheel in the air, like 1576 01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:20,040 Speaker 1: it's really crazy. That's not an exaggeration. Google it like 1577 01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:23,400 Speaker 1: he's a beat. And so to watch that now, I 1578 01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,559 Speaker 1: they wouldn't let any of us near the bike. They 1579 01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:30,519 Speaker 1: were like they were like poslibely no not no, you can't. 1580 01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:32,960 Speaker 1: They were like labor laws all that stuff. So we 1581 01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:35,640 Speaker 1: didn't really get to ride. Sorry if that ruins like 1582 01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:38,879 Speaker 1: the affect for anybody, but we didn't really get to ride. However, 1583 01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:42,479 Speaker 1: the highlight was we didn't need to, I feel, because 1584 01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:46,040 Speaker 1: we got to watch an experience that like just dope 1585 01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:49,479 Speaker 1: environment of them and Queen shout out Queen too. She 1586 01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:51,719 Speaker 1: was a dope writer too. She was a female writer 1587 01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:57,120 Speaker 1: understanding that was incredible watching watching them do this same. Yeah, 1588 01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:59,840 Speaker 1: I had to definitely had to get that shout out. 1589 01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:02,000 Speaker 1: Don't not trying to tell a story, but that are 1590 01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:06,120 Speaker 1: definitely watching them do their thing in the movie is 1591 01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:09,000 Speaker 1: that of charm. Cindy King's an interviewing John hey Winston, 1592 01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:13,400 Speaker 1: the incredible lead players first league, a major lead in 1593 01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:15,479 Speaker 1: a movie where he is the start. He's the guy 1594 01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:18,880 Speaker 1: who cares to start power Carris. This movie. Um well, 1595 01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:20,760 Speaker 1: I was going to say, man, about to wrap this up. 1596 01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:23,400 Speaker 1: If you like fishing, man, I love to invite you 1597 01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:25,960 Speaker 1: by my house, man, and when you just want to 1598 01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:28,600 Speaker 1: relax and talk and I do a little uh a 1599 01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:31,040 Speaker 1: little backyard fishing. Man. I got a little uh a 1600 01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:33,839 Speaker 1: little lake, got some some some fishing there that catchable 1601 01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:36,880 Speaker 1: when I catch my throwing back. But uh, you're you're 1602 01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:39,920 Speaker 1: definitely special with Johnny, and I wish you great luck 1603 01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:42,800 Speaker 1: in your career and definitely we're gonna talk again because 1604 01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:45,559 Speaker 1: of the fact that you're you're gonna be successful man. 1605 01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:48,320 Speaker 1: And when you and when you're throwing out ideas about 1606 01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:51,000 Speaker 1: what to do with your foundation from a virtual standpard 1607 01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:52,320 Speaker 1: reach out to me. That's what I do for a 1608 01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:55,479 Speaker 1: living man. I make things happen, brother, I really really do. 1609 01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:58,120 Speaker 1: And I also want to congratulate you, and uh hopef 1610 01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:01,440 Speaker 1: you realize the importance of me selecting you as a 1611 01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:05,240 Speaker 1: Caffee Moca Swag Award honorate, because it's really important to 1612 01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:08,040 Speaker 1: me that you understand that because you're making a difference 1613 01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:10,799 Speaker 1: at fifteen years old, you're making a difference and younger 1614 01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:15,160 Speaker 1: young people's lives and younger people's lives and don't change. Okay, 1615 01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:17,840 Speaker 1: thank you so much. So I really do appreciate it. 1616 01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:20,080 Speaker 1: Thank you. All Right, man, we're gonna keep talking about 1617 01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:21,479 Speaker 1: the brother. We're gonna we're gonna hype it on my 1618 01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:24,000 Speaker 1: social media. We're gonna blow you up. You're already blown up, 1619 01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,559 Speaker 1: but we're gonna blow you up anymore. Joy, Tell your mom, Hi, 1620 01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:29,840 Speaker 1: tell everybody around your God is what you long as 1621 01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:33,479 Speaker 1: you remember who he is. Okay, thank you so much, 1622 01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:36,680 Speaker 1: Thank you, my friend. If you want to hear more 1623 01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:39,360 Speaker 1: money Making Conversation interviews, please go to money Making Conversation 1624 01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:43,200 Speaker 1: dot com. I'm ra Sean McDonald. I'm your host. We'll 1625 01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:46,000 Speaker 1: be right back with more from Marasan McDonald. The Money 1626 01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:50,000 Speaker 1: Making Conversations don't touch that down. 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For more information, visit n M 1641 01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:48,640 Speaker 1: dot org Slash Radioations. I'm your host Sean McDonald my 1642 01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:51,679 Speaker 1: next guest. Todd Johnson has started a help to start 1643 01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:55,879 Speaker 1: businesses around the world and include Europe, Mexico, the Caribbean, 1644 01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:59,559 Speaker 1: and the United States. Although much of Tod's financial success 1645 01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:03,520 Speaker 1: derived from business, he finds personal success in helping entrepreneurs 1646 01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:08,640 Speaker 1: would be entrepreneurs and business leaders maximize their earning potential 1647 01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:12,720 Speaker 1: through executive coaching and by partnering to help them execute 1648 01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:16,000 Speaker 1: they'll go to marketing strategies. That's really important when I 1649 01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:20,480 Speaker 1: say that Taught in Hot Pursuit program helps entrepreneurs accelerate 1650 01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:23,280 Speaker 1: the growth of their ventures. They exist to serve and 1651 01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:27,639 Speaker 1: inspire our community by passionately and dilingently creating product content 1652 01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:31,320 Speaker 1: and services that matter. Please work with the money making conversation. 1653 01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:35,519 Speaker 1: He's straight out of Beverly Hills today, Todd T. J. Johnson, 1654 01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:42,759 Speaker 1: Sorry about that. Good morning, Rashan. How you doing, my friend? 1655 01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:46,280 Speaker 1: Uh l A. That's when some people during the pandemic, 1656 01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:50,640 Speaker 1: it's gopn to be pandemic uh hot, pandemic territory out there. 1657 01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:53,400 Speaker 1: How is living in Los Angeles or being in Los Angeles, 1658 01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:56,439 Speaker 1: which is a part of Beverly Hills being right now? 1659 01:31:58,120 --> 01:32:01,439 Speaker 1: And it's it's great. I've you know, I've uh you know, 1660 01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:04,600 Speaker 1: it's funny you say from Beverly Hills, And that sounds 1661 01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:08,040 Speaker 1: sounds funny introducing me that way, because I'm from South 1662 01:32:08,080 --> 01:32:14,760 Speaker 1: Carolina and Columbia, Casey, South Carolina. That's right, that's right, pokemon, 1663 01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:18,360 Speaker 1: you know. And uh and so uh and uh and 1664 01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:20,559 Speaker 1: and I've made my most of my money. And while 1665 01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:23,400 Speaker 1: I was in Washington, d C. But man, during this pandemic, 1666 01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:27,360 Speaker 1: I decided to come out to l A and a 1667 01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:29,760 Speaker 1: lot of time out here in Beverly Hills. And and 1668 01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:33,000 Speaker 1: and you know, have a beautiful place out here. And uh, 1669 01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:36,200 Speaker 1: my team works from this place, so we're able to 1670 01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:41,639 Speaker 1: quarantine with a group of people I love, like, am 1671 01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:44,479 Speaker 1: productive with, and so it's made it a lot more fun. 1672 01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:46,920 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm really into the car culture. I 1673 01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:49,920 Speaker 1: love cars, so it's a it's a great place to 1674 01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:52,920 Speaker 1: be because you can't get COVID and you know, driving 1675 01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:55,040 Speaker 1: your cars around. Well, I'm gonna tell you this, man, 1676 01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:58,639 Speaker 1: I've lived in Los Angeles fifteen years. I always tell 1677 01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:02,599 Speaker 1: people you can stand on the car of Doheny and 1678 01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:06,679 Speaker 1: Wilsham and see every popular car in the world passed 1679 01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:11,720 Speaker 1: that street light within an hour. So if you're a 1680 01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:15,040 Speaker 1: car junkie or car foodie or a car guy who 1681 01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:16,880 Speaker 1: just wants to eat up some great cars and look 1682 01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:19,960 Speaker 1: at them. Beverly Hills, California, my friend, it's the place 1683 01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:21,880 Speaker 1: to be because they got the cars. Man, they got 1684 01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:26,439 Speaker 1: the cars. T J. Absolutely absolutely they do. So tell 1685 01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:30,360 Speaker 1: us a little bit going. U. No, no, we know you, 1686 01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:32,360 Speaker 1: but you see you're about to go going. You just 1687 01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:35,000 Speaker 1: going somewhere through complete completely. I was just I was 1688 01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:37,519 Speaker 1: just no, no, I was just um, I was just 1689 01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:39,439 Speaker 1: jumping down on what you said. Is no need to 1690 01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:41,559 Speaker 1: do that. But yeah, so we can just move forward. 1691 01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:44,639 Speaker 1: But not no problem. Tell us about your brain right quick, TJ. 1692 01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:47,000 Speaker 1: From your words before I get in detail. You know, 1693 01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:49,240 Speaker 1: I've got my research, but I would like people to 1694 01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:51,599 Speaker 1: tell their story a little bit and let's, uh, let's 1695 01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:53,800 Speaker 1: break it down and build it up and uh and 1696 01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:56,360 Speaker 1: let everybody know the journey that got you here to 1697 01:33:56,479 --> 01:34:00,519 Speaker 1: this interview. No, I appreciate that. So it's a deal. 1698 01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:04,840 Speaker 1: I'm up again. I'm from like Casey, South Carolina. Some 1699 01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:07,760 Speaker 1: of the guys, man that's listening to this interview, they'll 1700 01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:10,639 Speaker 1: know when I say Pokemon, South Carolina. There's a little 1701 01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:13,320 Speaker 1: area in Casey, South Carolina. I grew up on a 1702 01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:17,720 Speaker 1: short bus. I grew up stuttering so badly that you know, 1703 01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:19,760 Speaker 1: people made fun of me. And I was on the 1704 01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:22,800 Speaker 1: short bus, so you know, the teachers and stuff didn't 1705 01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:24,960 Speaker 1: think I was that smart. Right, So I was on 1706 01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:27,320 Speaker 1: this bus and it took a long time for me 1707 01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:29,960 Speaker 1: to figure out that I just had a speech impediment 1708 01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:33,160 Speaker 1: and it wasn't that that. You know, I wasn't smart. 1709 01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:35,599 Speaker 1: So I had to work really hard and and grew 1710 01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:39,400 Speaker 1: up to like a teenage bomb and you know, poor 1711 01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:42,120 Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff where man, I didn't 1712 01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:46,840 Speaker 1: have any idy that was mentoring or sharing knowledge specifically 1713 01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:50,960 Speaker 1: of how to um achieve financial success, how to be 1714 01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:53,400 Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, how to build a business, how to think 1715 01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:57,519 Speaker 1: about things. So my brand is about taking all the 1716 01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:00,519 Speaker 1: years of experience that I've had and and a lot 1717 01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:05,840 Speaker 1: of different ventures and helping other people do startups. How 1718 01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:10,639 Speaker 1: do you take your business? Take that skill, start your business, 1719 01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:13,800 Speaker 1: start making money and scaling it so that you can 1720 01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:17,240 Speaker 1: build financial freedom and have a business that you're still 1721 01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:21,120 Speaker 1: proud of. You feel successful because you own it, and 1722 01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:23,360 Speaker 1: something that you know other people can look at you. 1723 01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:26,679 Speaker 1: And so man, this guy's went okay, and I'm proud 1724 01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:29,160 Speaker 1: of the kind of thing. So that's what my brand 1725 01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:33,240 Speaker 1: is ultimately about. And you know, I'm very familiar with Columbia, 1726 01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:37,160 Speaker 1: South Carolina, Charleston, that whole run up just syndicated radio 1727 01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:39,800 Speaker 1: with Steve Harvey for sixteen years and when our first 1728 01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:43,920 Speaker 1: market was Columbia, South Carolina, and so so I played 1729 01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:46,000 Speaker 1: with that many times, went down and performed in the 1730 01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:49,599 Speaker 1: town town hall down there. Uh sent up the seats 1731 01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:52,599 Speaker 1: about three thousands. So very familiar with Columbia South Carolina 1732 01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:55,800 Speaker 1: and uh, great people, great food. Let's go and put 1733 01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:58,760 Speaker 1: that out there and the great a Bromisphere. So how 1734 01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:01,320 Speaker 1: did you get out of color be a South Carolina area, 1735 01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:04,200 Speaker 1: now you know, you know that isn't extreme now Todd 1736 01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:08,320 Speaker 1: Beverly Hills, California and Colombia, South Carolina. Now I know 1737 01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:10,599 Speaker 1: because I came from fit Forth, which is a which 1738 01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:13,519 Speaker 1: is the inner city. Six sisters, two brothers, to bedroom, 1739 01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:18,400 Speaker 1: shotgun house. Father was truck driver. Mom graduated from high school, 1740 01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:23,160 Speaker 1: didn't pursue college. So I understand an atmosphere there doesn't 1741 01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:27,320 Speaker 1: uh play well to opportunity, but opportunity does present itself 1742 01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:29,240 Speaker 1: and you were able to take it to take advantage 1743 01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:30,880 Speaker 1: of You told us about the short bus. You told 1744 01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:34,040 Speaker 1: us about the study. How did the evolution come of Todd? 1745 01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:39,360 Speaker 1: T J. Johnson? Hey man? You know? So for me, 1746 01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:44,679 Speaker 1: I was always uh uh, someone that wanted more than 1747 01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:50,320 Speaker 1: what my environment had in my environment. I wasn't happy 1748 01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:54,040 Speaker 1: in my environment. I wasn't satisfied with my environment. And 1749 01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:56,360 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are that way. But 1750 01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:59,679 Speaker 1: I think the difference for people that leave their environment 1751 01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:03,479 Speaker 1: that they decide that there's something more somewhere else, there's 1752 01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:07,479 Speaker 1: something more in a different lifestyle, even though they haven't 1753 01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:10,519 Speaker 1: experienced in first hand, they haven't seen it. And so 1754 01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:15,200 Speaker 1: for me, I decided that I just wanted something different, 1755 01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:19,800 Speaker 1: and uh, at a very young age, and again not 1756 01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:22,880 Speaker 1: knowing where that looked like, you know, not knowing where 1757 01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:26,439 Speaker 1: that would be. Um. I played basketball in high school 1758 01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:29,519 Speaker 1: and I thought basketball would get me through college. And 1759 01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:32,360 Speaker 1: I had a very bad car accident when I was 1760 01:37:33,479 --> 01:37:37,559 Speaker 1: between my senior and junior year of high school, and 1761 01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:41,840 Speaker 1: I had amnesia and had problems with my balance and 1762 01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:44,479 Speaker 1: had to be taught my class schedule all over again, 1763 01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:47,519 Speaker 1: my being a first Uh, you know, there's people I 1764 01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:51,280 Speaker 1: didn't recognize. Ever. Again, a lot of the stuff came back, 1765 01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:56,040 Speaker 1: but some stuff never came back. But what what remains 1766 01:37:56,040 --> 01:38:00,200 Speaker 1: said fast was the fact that that I wanted or 1767 01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:03,759 Speaker 1: but I couldn't use basketball to get me out of 1768 01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:07,839 Speaker 1: my situation. So I figured I'd go off to college 1769 01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:10,640 Speaker 1: and and uh, you know, can I just be transparent 1770 01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:15,040 Speaker 1: with you here, rash money making conversations, Please do so, man, 1771 01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:17,800 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you know. I visited a couple 1772 01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:20,280 Speaker 1: of colleges. I think I went to William and Mary 1773 01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:23,519 Speaker 1: College and I went to Hampton You And to visit. 1774 01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:26,120 Speaker 1: And when I went to Hampton You, I saw so 1775 01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:29,400 Speaker 1: many beautiful sisters at Hampton You I was like, oh 1776 01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:31,320 Speaker 1: my god, if I go to the school, there's no 1777 01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:33,760 Speaker 1: way I'm gonna get out of college. I'm just not 1778 01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:35,800 Speaker 1: gonna get out of Coupe. I'm gonna be get so 1779 01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:38,519 Speaker 1: distracted and it it ain't gonna happen. So I was like, 1780 01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:40,479 Speaker 1: you know what, I cannot go to Hampton you because 1781 01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:43,679 Speaker 1: I could see myself I had I would always create 1782 01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:46,519 Speaker 1: this vision for my life. Right, So when I visited, 1783 01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:49,800 Speaker 1: happen to you thinking, wait a minute, I'm not you know, 1784 01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:53,120 Speaker 1: I don't I don't have everything together around basketball. So 1785 01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:56,519 Speaker 1: if I'm struggling, I'm gonna be driving a little I 1786 01:38:56,560 --> 01:38:59,439 Speaker 1: don't know. I have to buy uh six hundred dollar 1787 01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:01,960 Speaker 1: car and I'm gonna have to work like at my 1788 01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:04,640 Speaker 1: McDonald's and try to go to college and try not 1789 01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:07,080 Speaker 1: to be distracted by all the pretty girls. I knew 1790 01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:09,320 Speaker 1: that wasn't gonna work. I didn't think that I was 1791 01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:11,840 Speaker 1: going to be successful in that situation. So I ended 1792 01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:14,200 Speaker 1: up going in the military. And I went in the 1793 01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:16,880 Speaker 1: military when I was seventeen years old, and that was 1794 01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:19,639 Speaker 1: the thing that got me away from home. But when 1795 01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:24,599 Speaker 1: I knew is I had to leave Pokemo Casey, South 1796 01:39:24,640 --> 01:39:28,479 Speaker 1: Carolina and if I left Pokemo Casey, South Carolina, I 1797 01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:31,439 Speaker 1: knew there was gonna be more opportunity outside of the 1798 01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:34,080 Speaker 1: area than there was inside. So I was willing to 1799 01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:38,720 Speaker 1: go find something different. I'm gonna can't be transparent with 1800 01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:41,479 Speaker 1: you now. Let me just tell your story. But I 1801 01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:46,519 Speaker 1: graduated from University Houston. I when I fifteen years old, 1802 01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:49,040 Speaker 1: I had my father was a truck driver. My first 1803 01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:52,600 Speaker 1: job he sent me to uh Just Truck Company and 1804 01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:56,200 Speaker 1: uh I was unloading boxes. So my mentors were my 1805 01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:59,560 Speaker 1: early mentors of guys who unloaded boxes and drove forklifts. 1806 01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:03,120 Speaker 1: So despite the high grades, when I got graduated from 1807 01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:05,439 Speaker 1: high school, I wanted to be a forkliff driver. That's 1808 01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:07,040 Speaker 1: what I wanted to be. And guess when I graduate 1809 01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:10,479 Speaker 1: high school, I became a forklift driver. It was happy. 1810 01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:14,720 Speaker 1: And then uh then, fortunately for me, I didn't know 1811 01:40:14,760 --> 01:40:16,519 Speaker 1: what I was doing and I dropped the box on 1812 01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:19,160 Speaker 1: a young man's hand, broken and they fired me. And 1813 01:40:19,240 --> 01:40:21,559 Speaker 1: so I went over the University of Houston, where I 1814 01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:24,360 Speaker 1: eventually graduated. And when I eventually attended and I saw 1815 01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:27,760 Speaker 1: those same beautiful women that you saw at the university. 1816 01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:32,840 Speaker 1: It was Wednesday noontime, neon time, not now out that 1817 01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:41,240 Speaker 1: inspired MEDJ to enroll in college, that that inspired that 1818 01:40:41,240 --> 01:40:44,760 Speaker 1: that visit to that that new time on a Wednesday 1819 01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:46,879 Speaker 1: at the U. See that's what they called the university 1820 01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:49,320 Speaker 1: Senate called it. Do you see got me and rolled 1821 01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:52,160 Speaker 1: at the University Houston and made me get my math degree. 1822 01:40:52,439 --> 01:40:55,439 Speaker 1: So we all had levels of inspiration. So I was 1823 01:40:55,560 --> 01:40:58,599 Speaker 1: not I was not taking aback by when I saw. 1824 01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:04,679 Speaker 1: I was just trying to see how to get closer. Uh. 1825 01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:07,640 Speaker 1: And that's how life is for for for us. You know, 1826 01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:10,600 Speaker 1: we have these different ventures that we we encounter and 1827 01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:13,400 Speaker 1: they always affect us different ways. And when I hear 1828 01:41:13,439 --> 01:41:15,040 Speaker 1: your story, that's why I want to hear the story, 1829 01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:18,960 Speaker 1: because the story feeds different information when it's when it's uh, 1830 01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:21,840 Speaker 1: when it's presented to different people, and when you how 1831 01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:25,719 Speaker 1: we achieve those different levels of success is what builds 1832 01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:28,559 Speaker 1: us out and makes us successful overall and allows our 1833 01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:32,040 Speaker 1: dreams to come true. Because like you, I am a 1834 01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:34,360 Speaker 1: dreamer too. I just I would look at TV t 1835 01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:38,760 Speaker 1: J and I'll go, Wow, could I do that? And 1836 01:41:38,840 --> 01:41:41,240 Speaker 1: I would tell you this man, honest letting I tell people, 1837 01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:44,680 Speaker 1: I pretty much have done most of the things I've 1838 01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:49,679 Speaker 1: dreamed of in my life as a kid, and and 1839 01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:51,720 Speaker 1: and I never when people hear that, they go, who 1840 01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:53,559 Speaker 1: you mean? I said, well, you know, when I saw it, 1841 01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:56,479 Speaker 1: I didn't know how I was going to get there. 1842 01:41:56,520 --> 01:41:59,000 Speaker 1: But I knew hard work was involved. I knew not 1843 01:41:59,120 --> 01:42:01,400 Speaker 1: sitting on the sofa was not an option t J. 1844 01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:04,360 Speaker 1: I knew that I had to be able to have 1845 01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:08,040 Speaker 1: people around me, they believed in me, and all those 1846 01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:10,200 Speaker 1: things that played this self out with me ever since 1847 01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:13,080 Speaker 1: I've been eighteen years old. What was my problem was 1848 01:42:13,560 --> 01:42:16,880 Speaker 1: I didn't respect the process. In other words, I didn't 1849 01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:20,519 Speaker 1: accept the responsibility that God gives us these gifts. And 1850 01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:23,160 Speaker 1: when they when these things start happening to you, don't 1851 01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:26,200 Speaker 1: don't trivialize it, don't realize to realize that it's happening 1852 01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:29,679 Speaker 1: because you have a unique talent. And that's and once 1853 01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:31,559 Speaker 1: I accepted the fact that I have a unique I 1854 01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:34,639 Speaker 1: had a unique talent, and these things are happening because 1855 01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:37,240 Speaker 1: of what I can accomplish and who I am, the 1856 01:42:37,400 --> 01:42:39,960 Speaker 1: success came my way at a very fast rate. And 1857 01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:42,560 Speaker 1: I understood the pattern that I had to maintain, the 1858 01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:45,720 Speaker 1: consistency I had to maintain to be successful. And when 1859 01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:49,280 Speaker 1: I did my research on you. You your life tells 1860 01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:54,599 Speaker 1: a very similar story. Correct, Yeah, for sure, for sure, 1861 01:42:56,200 --> 01:42:59,840 Speaker 1: for sure, I think. But you know, and you talk 1862 01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:01,920 Speaker 1: into me just now and telling me a little bit 1863 01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:04,320 Speaker 1: more about your story. One of the things that jumped 1864 01:43:04,360 --> 01:43:06,800 Speaker 1: out at me is just being self aware. You know, 1865 01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:10,559 Speaker 1: you saw those women. You were like, look this is 1866 01:43:10,600 --> 01:43:13,320 Speaker 1: far me. I gotta get blokes when I told im 1867 01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:18,800 Speaker 1: I'm so weak, I gotta move away. When when just 1868 01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:24,160 Speaker 1: when you you know, when you were like, um, you said, look, uh, 1869 01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:26,960 Speaker 1: cheap my thing. But now I want to do something different. 1870 01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:31,559 Speaker 1: For me, I knew like going in the military, right 1871 01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:34,160 Speaker 1: was the way to being a different place, to see 1872 01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:37,080 Speaker 1: some different things. And and you know, I started out 1873 01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:41,639 Speaker 1: like doing a job that was like like cheap punch operator. 1874 01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:44,760 Speaker 1: I was like typing in stuff right that that you know, 1875 01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:48,840 Speaker 1: I thought was uh, just typing in like on these 1876 01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:51,040 Speaker 1: little cheap punch cards. And then I had the innovator. 1877 01:43:51,320 --> 01:43:54,720 Speaker 1: But but the other thing that I thought about when 1878 01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:59,679 Speaker 1: you were talking was was you said you watched TV 1879 01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:02,720 Speaker 1: and be inspired and you would do different things, and 1880 01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:05,640 Speaker 1: you saw that you sort of want to emulate some 1881 01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:09,240 Speaker 1: of the success. For me, when I saw TV, what 1882 01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:14,680 Speaker 1: I saw is very successful people that and I was 1883 01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:18,080 Speaker 1: I was actually someone that wouldn't watch TV because I 1884 01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:21,439 Speaker 1: would see this success and I would say, I'm gonna 1885 01:44:21,479 --> 01:44:26,160 Speaker 1: spend thirty minutes, an hour or two hours watching rich 1886 01:44:26,240 --> 01:44:30,160 Speaker 1: people when I'm poor. And so I was like, you 1887 01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:32,080 Speaker 1: know what, I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna 1888 01:44:32,120 --> 01:44:35,840 Speaker 1: watch rich people when I'm poor. I'm gonna invest in 1889 01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:38,679 Speaker 1: myself and do some other things so that I cannot 1890 01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:43,000 Speaker 1: be poor. Right, So to your point is that the 1891 01:44:43,000 --> 01:44:46,280 Speaker 1: way we deal with these things are are different, right, right, 1892 01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:48,960 Speaker 1: way we deal with each circumstances are different, The way 1893 01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:51,759 Speaker 1: it impacts us are different. And so the two things 1894 01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:56,840 Speaker 1: in terms of how you dealt with um, the inspiration 1895 01:44:56,920 --> 01:44:59,800 Speaker 1: you saw in the University of Houston and and the 1896 01:44:59,800 --> 01:45:02,559 Speaker 1: way you dealt with the infloration you saw in Houston 1897 01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:05,000 Speaker 1: was very different than the way I dealt with television 1898 01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:09,040 Speaker 1: the way I saw the inspiration in h Hampton University. 1899 01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:13,240 Speaker 1: So you're absolutely right, my brother, in terms of how 1900 01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:15,280 Speaker 1: it impacts this differently and how they have to apply 1901 01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:18,719 Speaker 1: to our own life. Absolutely, And that's a really really 1902 01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:20,960 Speaker 1: deep thing to admit because of what I tried not 1903 01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:23,400 Speaker 1: to do is you know, when you work around talent, 1904 01:45:23,439 --> 01:45:25,040 Speaker 1: and I consider you a talent, I want to hear 1905 01:45:25,080 --> 01:45:28,759 Speaker 1: your story because I because I I were always annoyed 1906 01:45:28,880 --> 01:45:31,960 Speaker 1: me and the entertainment business especially, we have super talented 1907 01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:34,879 Speaker 1: people like just throw our name like a Martin Lawrence 1908 01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:37,640 Speaker 1: or Dave Chappelle. Just because they have the title of 1909 01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:40,720 Speaker 1: comedian don't mean they do the same things. And so 1910 01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:42,840 Speaker 1: sometimes people try to put them in that same lane 1911 01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:45,000 Speaker 1: or they're funny, they can do this script maybe not, 1912 01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:49,040 Speaker 1: maybe not because they approached their thought process of being 1913 01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:52,960 Speaker 1: funny is different. And so the same thing with you, 1914 01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:55,280 Speaker 1: I thought press would be I thought process of being 1915 01:45:55,320 --> 01:45:59,439 Speaker 1: successful is different, and we have to be respected along 1916 01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:02,200 Speaker 1: that line and realize that our journey to get to 1917 01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:05,240 Speaker 1: the finish line. You may be the tortus, I may 1918 01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:08,400 Speaker 1: be the hair, but it doesn't matter because we're gonna 1919 01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:12,040 Speaker 1: be successful because we approached with the mindset or pattern 1920 01:46:12,080 --> 01:46:14,960 Speaker 1: of gold or being goal or in it. We're planned, 1921 01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:18,360 Speaker 1: driven people and we're not just dreamers. That is what 1922 01:46:18,479 --> 01:46:20,920 Speaker 1: It's important that I wanted people to take away from 1923 01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:25,519 Speaker 1: your brain as well, right t J. Yeah, absolutely, and 1924 01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:29,280 Speaker 1: and and so you're right. The the what you do 1925 01:46:29,360 --> 01:46:32,439 Speaker 1: when you when you're dealing with success or anything that 1926 01:46:32,600 --> 01:46:35,679 Speaker 1: you study was common. Right, everybody's gonna have a unique story, 1927 01:46:35,960 --> 01:46:40,360 Speaker 1: a unique way, inspired differently, motivated differently. But the things 1928 01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:45,759 Speaker 1: that's common are you know, focus, it's you know, setting goals, 1929 01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:50,599 Speaker 1: achieving those goals, having a high, you know, high vision 1930 01:46:50,680 --> 01:46:54,040 Speaker 1: for your life. And I think some people suffer from 1931 01:46:54,080 --> 01:46:57,080 Speaker 1: not creating a big enough vision for their life. And 1932 01:46:57,640 --> 01:47:01,000 Speaker 1: I think most of us do, no matter where we are, uh, 1933 01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:03,160 Speaker 1: in terms of our level of success. A lot of 1934 01:47:03,200 --> 01:47:04,960 Speaker 1: times I look at myself to say, man, I could 1935 01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:08,280 Speaker 1: have done a lot more if I would have completed 1936 01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:11,160 Speaker 1: hard if my vision would have been grander, you know, 1937 01:47:11,439 --> 01:47:13,280 Speaker 1: even though people might look at me and say, man, 1938 01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:16,880 Speaker 1: you created some Yeah, but you know I could have 1939 01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:18,760 Speaker 1: done there's a lot faster. I could have done it 1940 01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:23,080 Speaker 1: a lot different if I wasn't scared earlier. I wasn't 1941 01:47:23,960 --> 01:47:27,439 Speaker 1: they scared having a bigger vision. You know you're listening 1942 01:47:27,479 --> 01:47:31,280 Speaker 1: to money making conversations with Rashan McDonald, will be right back. 1943 01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:33,680 Speaker 1: Cars today are like a computer on wheels. 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That's car 1962 01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:31,040 Speaker 1: shield dot Com. Code Money. A deductible may apply. Welcome 1963 01:48:31,040 --> 01:48:34,439 Speaker 1: back to money making conversations. I'm your host, Sean McDonald. 1964 01:48:35,479 --> 01:48:38,479 Speaker 1: I I wow, you know that statement you just said. 1965 01:48:38,520 --> 01:48:41,759 Speaker 1: I thought about that so many times, but I often 1966 01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:44,120 Speaker 1: think about it because of the fact that was a 1967 01:48:44,200 --> 01:48:46,320 Speaker 1: ready And that's why I go back to the fact 1968 01:48:46,320 --> 01:48:49,320 Speaker 1: that I said early in our conversation. Sometimes you don't 1969 01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:52,880 Speaker 1: understand who you are. Sometimes you don't really respect what 1970 01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:55,400 Speaker 1: you can do. And so I don't so much call 1971 01:48:55,479 --> 01:48:58,840 Speaker 1: it fears growth and so we all grow. That's why 1972 01:48:58,840 --> 01:49:02,760 Speaker 1: I admire when you know, President Barack Obama ran for 1973 01:49:02,920 --> 01:49:05,920 Speaker 1: presidency of the United States and he won, but he 1974 01:49:05,960 --> 01:49:07,960 Speaker 1: had to plan on that when he was in his 1975 01:49:08,160 --> 01:49:11,120 Speaker 1: teens because he had to do certain things that they 1976 01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:14,160 Speaker 1: couldn't back and go back and find. And so people 1977 01:49:14,320 --> 01:49:18,479 Speaker 1: visionaries who get it early. I always always, like you know, 1978 01:49:18,479 --> 01:49:20,519 Speaker 1: I always get excited because it go wow. They figured 1979 01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:24,200 Speaker 1: it out so young, and that's amazing. Where I basically 1980 01:49:24,560 --> 01:49:27,479 Speaker 1: accepted who I was in my forties despite all the 1981 01:49:27,520 --> 01:49:32,080 Speaker 1: success I had. T J. I, I didn't really buy 1982 01:49:32,120 --> 01:49:35,360 Speaker 1: into Rashaan McDonald until I was in my authorities and 1983 01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:39,040 Speaker 1: when I bought in, boar that that wall, that that 1984 01:49:39,120 --> 01:49:41,559 Speaker 1: door could not stay closed when I bought in. And 1985 01:49:41,600 --> 01:49:44,599 Speaker 1: so so I'm speaking to Todd t J. Nick Mill 1986 01:49:44,720 --> 01:49:46,840 Speaker 1: I just call him t J. Todd Johnson. He has 1987 01:49:46,840 --> 01:49:50,560 Speaker 1: a program called in High Pursuit. It helps entrepreneurs accelerate 1988 01:49:50,600 --> 01:49:54,719 Speaker 1: the growth of their ventures. Tell us about that talk. Yeah, 1989 01:49:54,840 --> 01:49:57,439 Speaker 1: so you know I have. What I do is I 1990 01:49:58,200 --> 01:50:01,799 Speaker 1: coach people that are building their businesses, trying to scale 1991 01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:04,960 Speaker 1: their business, trying to grow their business right, and uh, 1992 01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:09,599 Speaker 1: a lot of people, uh, they'll see or either getting 1993 01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:13,080 Speaker 1: ready to start, never starting, waiting waiting for things to 1994 01:50:13,200 --> 01:50:16,560 Speaker 1: be perfect before they get going, waiting for things to 1995 01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:18,799 Speaker 1: be perfect before they make an offer to the world. 1996 01:50:19,120 --> 01:50:21,519 Speaker 1: And you know that's a that's a big problem, right, 1997 01:50:21,600 --> 01:50:23,720 Speaker 1: it's a big care. A lot of other folks they 1998 01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:27,120 Speaker 1: got their business is going, but they really created sort 1999 01:50:27,160 --> 01:50:31,040 Speaker 1: of u uh eliminated stand and they don't know it 2000 01:50:31,040 --> 01:50:33,519 Speaker 1: means that they have to go in and open the 2001 01:50:33,560 --> 01:50:37,120 Speaker 1: store every day, be their selling stuff. And if they're not, 2002 01:50:37,200 --> 01:50:39,559 Speaker 1: they're not gonna make any money. And when they stop 2003 01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:42,519 Speaker 1: doing it, the money stops doing So I want to 2004 01:50:42,520 --> 01:50:45,760 Speaker 1: make sure that people learn how to work on their 2005 01:50:45,800 --> 01:50:48,080 Speaker 1: business and not just in their business right, so that 2006 01:50:48,360 --> 01:50:52,320 Speaker 1: they can build financial success for the long haul, that 2007 01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:55,840 Speaker 1: they can feel they can they can make money while 2008 01:50:55,960 --> 01:50:58,799 Speaker 1: they sleep, so that they can take their spread equity 2009 01:50:59,080 --> 01:51:03,479 Speaker 1: and they're into new and creativity to create something that's 2010 01:51:03,520 --> 01:51:06,599 Speaker 1: going to allow them to live the way they want 2011 01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:09,760 Speaker 1: because sometimes people want to build a business and they think, 2012 01:51:09,840 --> 01:51:12,799 Speaker 1: because I have this business I'm living, I'm gonna build 2013 01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:16,320 Speaker 1: this lifestyle the well want not necessarily you've just built 2014 01:51:16,360 --> 01:51:19,680 Speaker 1: eliminated sing so when they help people scale their business 2015 01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:23,600 Speaker 1: and so my my, Uh, what I do is I 2016 01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:26,960 Speaker 1: have something called the Success Club. And in the Success Club, 2017 01:51:27,280 --> 01:51:30,439 Speaker 1: it's where I meet with folks every couple of weeks, 2018 01:51:30,439 --> 01:51:32,720 Speaker 1: you know, face to face as a group, and me 2019 01:51:33,080 --> 01:51:36,280 Speaker 1: have another person, Terry. Terry then helping people with some 2020 01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:40,920 Speaker 1: of the technical aspects of marketing. And uh, I'm helping 2021 01:51:40,960 --> 01:51:44,240 Speaker 1: with the strategy stuff and and obviously the technical stuff 2022 01:51:44,280 --> 01:51:47,160 Speaker 1: as well, you know, talking through stuff and helping people 2023 01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:49,320 Speaker 1: solve their problems so that they can grow their businesses 2024 01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:52,360 Speaker 1: and scale it and so and and it's unique because 2025 01:51:52,720 --> 01:51:56,439 Speaker 1: getting access to people that have built businesses, you know, 2026 01:51:56,560 --> 01:52:00,400 Speaker 1: in different industries. I mean, I've had a uh marcial 2027 01:52:00,400 --> 01:52:02,640 Speaker 1: construction business that are built from scratch, and all the 2028 01:52:02,680 --> 01:52:04,920 Speaker 1: businesses that I built, I'm not going out and gotten 2029 01:52:04,960 --> 01:52:08,439 Speaker 1: people's money and and and and build something. I built 2030 01:52:08,439 --> 01:52:11,760 Speaker 1: businesses that's been very successful, and I build businesses that 2031 01:52:11,880 --> 01:52:14,920 Speaker 1: stilled and all of that experience helps me hope other 2032 01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:19,160 Speaker 1: people move things along a lot faster. So it's called 2033 01:52:19,160 --> 01:52:22,120 Speaker 1: a success club. And when when you have the word 2034 01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:25,680 Speaker 1: success and and that that means a lot to a 2035 01:52:25,720 --> 01:52:28,160 Speaker 1: lot of different people. You know, there are people who 2036 01:52:28,200 --> 01:52:30,680 Speaker 1: eat who can eat a lot of food that's successful 2037 01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:34,799 Speaker 1: for them at the buffet, you know, and so you know, athletes, 2038 01:52:34,840 --> 01:52:38,479 Speaker 1: it could be a forty yard time, you know, lifting weights, 2039 01:52:38,640 --> 01:52:41,759 Speaker 1: it could be a dunk. Uh. What is your definition 2040 01:52:41,800 --> 01:52:44,800 Speaker 1: of success in the entrepreneurial or the business or the 2041 01:52:44,840 --> 01:52:47,639 Speaker 1: business space when you're talking to individuals who are trying 2042 01:52:47,640 --> 01:52:52,799 Speaker 1: to get a vision for success. Yeah, so there's levels 2043 01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:55,759 Speaker 1: to it, right in terms of success that you've already mentioned. 2044 01:52:55,920 --> 01:52:58,679 Speaker 1: And so I think, um, a sort of a quick 2045 01:52:58,720 --> 01:53:01,680 Speaker 1: sort of uh version of that for me is that 2046 01:53:02,160 --> 01:53:05,519 Speaker 1: you know, having building enough financial freedom where you may 2047 01:53:05,560 --> 01:53:07,680 Speaker 1: have ability to make choices for your life and your 2048 01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:13,960 Speaker 1: family that prioritizes your happiness and lifestyle over simply surviving. 2049 01:53:16,080 --> 01:53:19,000 Speaker 1: So and the degree that you have the ability to 2050 01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:21,200 Speaker 1: do that, like a lot of people have to get 2051 01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:23,840 Speaker 1: up and do things just because they have to do 2052 01:53:23,880 --> 01:53:26,960 Speaker 1: it to pay the bills and take care of family, right, So, 2053 01:53:26,960 --> 01:53:30,280 Speaker 1: so because you know, and so to the degree that 2054 01:53:30,320 --> 01:53:32,320 Speaker 1: you go you know what, I can make decisions. I 2055 01:53:32,360 --> 01:53:35,360 Speaker 1: can take this job, I can move to this location, 2056 01:53:35,800 --> 01:53:38,160 Speaker 1: and and I have the type of freedom that allows 2057 01:53:38,160 --> 01:53:40,240 Speaker 1: me to do what makes me happy and takes care 2058 01:53:40,280 --> 01:53:43,639 Speaker 1: of my family, makes my family happy. And as far 2059 01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:50,240 Speaker 1: as has that over over, you know, just simply surviving. Uh, 2060 01:53:50,280 --> 01:53:52,480 Speaker 1: to the degree that I can do that, I'm successful. 2061 01:53:52,720 --> 01:53:55,360 Speaker 1: And so there's a few levers when you look at that. 2062 01:53:55,720 --> 01:53:58,760 Speaker 1: There's the happiness level. How happy am I doing what 2063 01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:01,920 Speaker 1: I do and what my life and and what my 2064 01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:05,000 Speaker 1: life looks like, how much of an impact and I'm making? 2065 01:54:05,400 --> 01:54:07,760 Speaker 1: And I think that's important because we want to be 2066 01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:10,080 Speaker 1: able to do that. The other one is how much 2067 01:54:10,120 --> 01:54:12,040 Speaker 1: abundance do I have? You know a lot of times 2068 01:54:12,040 --> 01:54:13,840 Speaker 1: people want to think about success, I want to take 2069 01:54:13,880 --> 01:54:15,960 Speaker 1: that out of it, right, And I'm like, no, man, 2070 01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:19,200 Speaker 1: put abundance in it, because abundance is an important thing 2071 01:54:19,280 --> 01:54:23,479 Speaker 1: and it's something you know that that is UH having 2072 01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:28,160 Speaker 1: an abundance versus having lack It's really important as well, right, 2073 01:54:28,560 --> 01:54:32,760 Speaker 1: And so um um, I think those are some of 2074 01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:38,080 Speaker 1: the levels that are important to move up the scale 2075 01:54:38,520 --> 01:54:41,760 Speaker 1: to figure out what success is, at least for me 2076 01:54:42,200 --> 01:54:46,480 Speaker 1: and from a business standpoint, in a business mindset. You 2077 01:54:46,520 --> 01:54:48,280 Speaker 1: know when I when I listened to you talk and 2078 01:54:48,360 --> 01:54:50,400 Speaker 1: first of all, thank you for calling the show money 2079 01:54:50,440 --> 01:54:53,880 Speaker 1: making conversation and sharing your story and your inspiration. And 2080 01:54:53,960 --> 01:54:57,880 Speaker 1: I I've had an amazing life when I look at 2081 01:54:57,920 --> 01:55:01,680 Speaker 1: the ability to be able to you hanging hanging into 2082 01:55:01,720 --> 01:55:04,240 Speaker 1: a conversation with a with a motivational coach, are your 2083 01:55:04,280 --> 01:55:07,800 Speaker 1: success coach? And that's something I cannot do. That's something 2084 01:55:07,880 --> 01:55:11,240 Speaker 1: I wouldn't pursue. That's just not my lane of opportunity 2085 01:55:11,320 --> 01:55:13,360 Speaker 1: for me. And as far as important to say, I 2086 01:55:13,440 --> 01:55:16,800 Speaker 1: may know your conversation ta that on me, I can 2087 01:55:16,840 --> 01:55:20,680 Speaker 1: do what you do? Okay? What enables you to do 2088 01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:24,120 Speaker 1: what you do in that lane of being a success coach? 2089 01:55:24,160 --> 01:55:27,320 Speaker 1: And what what makes you different? What? What? What? What? What? When? 2090 01:55:27,320 --> 01:55:29,800 Speaker 1: When when I look at you and I come to 2091 01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:31,880 Speaker 1: you And because you have people who come there for 2092 01:55:32,440 --> 01:55:35,240 Speaker 1: stress coaches and they the athletes who are trying to 2093 01:55:35,280 --> 01:55:38,560 Speaker 1: overcome depression a lot of times, and but success because 2094 01:55:38,560 --> 01:55:40,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people fail at it. They fell in 2095 01:55:40,600 --> 01:55:43,360 Speaker 1: life and they fell in business. How do you how 2096 01:55:43,400 --> 01:55:45,760 Speaker 1: do you affect people like that and get them going 2097 01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:51,160 Speaker 1: down the right path? Yeah, So a couple of things. 2098 01:55:51,320 --> 01:55:54,840 Speaker 1: I focus on the fundamentals. Just's like you know, if 2099 01:55:54,840 --> 01:55:58,440 Speaker 1: you played basketball, you do anything, well, you know the 2100 01:55:58,520 --> 01:56:00,280 Speaker 1: thing that you have to do at a fund ofmental Now, 2101 01:56:00,480 --> 01:56:02,360 Speaker 1: when you sit there and you tell somebody here's what 2102 01:56:02,440 --> 01:56:06,879 Speaker 1: it takes to be successful, they go, wait, where's the magic? 2103 01:56:07,240 --> 01:56:10,960 Speaker 1: We're interesting? You know, you know, you know no, and 2104 01:56:11,000 --> 01:56:13,640 Speaker 1: the secrets are. You know. You gotta focus, you gotta 2105 01:56:13,720 --> 01:56:16,040 Speaker 1: you gotta have a clear vision for your life. You 2106 01:56:16,080 --> 01:56:18,240 Speaker 1: have to focus. You have to have faith that you 2107 01:56:18,280 --> 01:56:21,880 Speaker 1: can do this thing beyond measure. You know, you can 2108 01:56:21,880 --> 01:56:24,040 Speaker 1: get this thing done. I was talking to someone, yes 2109 01:56:24,160 --> 01:56:26,840 Speaker 1: the other day and uh, you know, going through a 2110 01:56:26,840 --> 01:56:30,880 Speaker 1: coaching session, and I was talking about how expensive it 2111 01:56:31,080 --> 01:56:33,600 Speaker 1: was to do what he did and how much uh 2112 01:56:33,600 --> 01:56:35,400 Speaker 1: you know money he was making. But how a little 2113 01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:37,640 Speaker 1: with going to the bottom. Why And I said, well, 2114 01:56:38,760 --> 01:56:40,800 Speaker 1: you know, let's you say, now, let's look at this differently. 2115 01:56:41,000 --> 01:56:43,680 Speaker 1: How can we do this without spending anount of money. 2116 01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:45,800 Speaker 1: There's no way to do it. There's no way to 2117 01:56:45,840 --> 01:56:49,840 Speaker 1: do it. Absolutely you can't because other people are doing it. Right. 2118 01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:52,920 Speaker 1: So we talked about it and said, I said, bro, 2119 01:56:53,000 --> 01:56:55,160 Speaker 1: how about it? How about if you're you know, how 2120 01:56:55,200 --> 01:56:58,680 Speaker 1: about it? There's a bast drop us, there's some your 2121 01:56:58,720 --> 01:57:02,160 Speaker 1: wife was kidnapped and you have to gether out of 2122 01:57:02,160 --> 01:57:04,560 Speaker 1: this situation. One way you can get it out of 2123 01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:08,040 Speaker 1: the situation is to double your business. And in sixty days, 2124 01:57:08,720 --> 01:57:11,960 Speaker 1: how would you do it? What would you do? What 2125 01:57:12,080 --> 01:57:14,000 Speaker 1: changes would you make? You have to do this. You 2126 01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:17,720 Speaker 1: have no choice. Life and death depends on it, right, 2127 01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:21,320 Speaker 1: And so sometimes when we frame things differently, we can 2128 01:57:21,400 --> 01:57:26,520 Speaker 1: then start to see different Yeah, have they do this 2129 01:57:26,560 --> 01:57:28,920 Speaker 1: all the time? Because they have, they have you know, 2130 01:57:28,960 --> 01:57:33,320 Speaker 1: they have to respond in pressure situations. Our business people 2131 01:57:33,680 --> 01:57:36,480 Speaker 1: respond to pressure situation where the business is gonna God, 2132 01:57:36,880 --> 01:57:39,960 Speaker 1: U gonna fail, it's covid. Oh man, I gotta do 2133 01:57:40,000 --> 01:57:43,000 Speaker 1: something different otherwise I'm gonna fail. But sometimes we have 2134 01:57:43,120 --> 01:57:45,840 Speaker 1: to create the pressure so that we can come up 2135 01:57:45,880 --> 01:57:48,800 Speaker 1: with the answers that we need to grow our stuff. 2136 01:57:48,960 --> 01:57:51,760 Speaker 1: But the thing that makes me different and the things 2137 01:57:51,800 --> 01:57:54,240 Speaker 1: that allows me to to help people in a different 2138 01:57:54,240 --> 01:57:56,120 Speaker 1: way is that one I've been in a lot of 2139 01:57:56,160 --> 01:57:58,840 Speaker 1: different businesses. All of them have been start ups. And 2140 01:57:58,880 --> 01:58:01,040 Speaker 1: because they've been start ups, and it's been in the 2141 01:58:01,160 --> 01:58:04,560 Speaker 1: construction businesses, you know, on the hotel and the restaurant 2142 01:58:04,920 --> 01:58:08,280 Speaker 1: and uh, mobile detail and car wash business and and 2143 01:58:08,440 --> 01:58:12,280 Speaker 1: obviously detect service and stuff um and and and retail 2144 01:58:12,360 --> 01:58:15,040 Speaker 1: and online business. So I've done a lot of different things, 2145 01:58:15,120 --> 01:58:17,480 Speaker 1: and not all of those things have been successful. But 2146 01:58:17,960 --> 01:58:22,240 Speaker 1: I can leverage all of that experience to help other people. 2147 01:58:22,280 --> 01:58:25,920 Speaker 1: And I understand what it means to kind of half 2148 01:58:26,160 --> 01:58:29,600 Speaker 1: leaving yourself sometimes or not have other people believe in yourself, 2149 01:58:29,800 --> 01:58:31,680 Speaker 1: and to be able to break something down into the 2150 01:58:31,760 --> 01:58:34,280 Speaker 1: small parts and get people to do a few things 2151 01:58:34,640 --> 01:58:38,440 Speaker 1: one that's creative vision for themselves, that that they can 2152 01:58:38,520 --> 01:58:41,720 Speaker 1: believe that, absolutely believe that, and sometimes those are baby 2153 01:58:41,760 --> 01:58:44,680 Speaker 1: steps and then move them along the path and then 2154 01:58:44,680 --> 01:58:49,240 Speaker 1: to help them, uh focus and eliminate all that other things. 2155 01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:52,360 Speaker 1: A lot of times, especially as black people, man, we 2156 01:58:52,440 --> 01:58:54,640 Speaker 1: always want to be mobiles. Nobody wants to be a 2157 01:58:54,680 --> 01:58:57,240 Speaker 1: millionaire or everybody wants a good billionaire. It's like, bro, 2158 01:58:57,320 --> 01:58:59,600 Speaker 1: how about we start with you're making six figures first? 2159 01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:03,760 Speaker 1: You know, I think, and there we should move on. 2160 01:59:03,840 --> 01:59:06,240 Speaker 1: You know, I want to we start there. And so 2161 01:59:06,320 --> 01:59:08,800 Speaker 1: everybody must have been a modo before they get one 2162 01:59:08,880 --> 01:59:12,160 Speaker 1: thing going. So people starting three or four different things, right, 2163 01:59:12,200 --> 01:59:15,440 Speaker 1: So let's start with one and being successful there and 2164 01:59:15,480 --> 01:59:18,760 Speaker 1: then and so helping people do that and put the 2165 01:59:18,800 --> 01:59:21,720 Speaker 1: steps in place and having the constant contact with them 2166 01:59:22,080 --> 01:59:25,440 Speaker 1: to there to say, okay, brother, you're on the right path. Okay, sister, 2167 01:59:25,760 --> 01:59:28,400 Speaker 1: now that ain't working. I hear you, but that doesn't 2168 01:59:28,440 --> 01:59:31,120 Speaker 1: make sense to me. And people will go around and 2169 01:59:31,160 --> 01:59:33,880 Speaker 1: circles on an idea. Did that makes sense to anybody 2170 01:59:33,880 --> 01:59:37,839 Speaker 1: but themselves for a long time, talk about this idea 2171 01:59:38,120 --> 01:59:40,800 Speaker 1: and they can't execute on it because it doesn't make sense, 2172 01:59:41,160 --> 01:59:43,880 Speaker 1: you know, to to anybody. A lot of times people 2173 01:59:43,880 --> 01:59:46,520 Speaker 1: are trying to sell people things they think they need 2174 01:59:46,920 --> 01:59:50,640 Speaker 1: as opposed to things that people want right and already 2175 01:59:50,640 --> 01:59:53,120 Speaker 1: know they need. Don't convince them that they need something, 2176 01:59:53,360 --> 01:59:56,520 Speaker 1: Tell them stuff that they know they want and that 2177 01:59:56,600 --> 01:59:59,240 Speaker 1: they need, you know. So So those are some of 2178 01:59:59,240 --> 02:00:01,200 Speaker 1: the things, man, know that that was all over the place, 2179 02:00:01,240 --> 02:00:03,520 Speaker 1: But those are some of the things that that that 2180 02:00:03,680 --> 02:00:06,560 Speaker 1: I do to help people move along the state focus 2181 02:00:06,840 --> 02:00:10,120 Speaker 1: and build their businesses. Awesome, Todd, How can we reach 2182 02:00:10,120 --> 02:00:13,960 Speaker 1: out to you? What the social email? Uh? Website? How 2183 02:00:13,960 --> 02:00:16,920 Speaker 1: can we reach you? How can we find you? Yeah? 2184 02:00:17,000 --> 02:00:23,200 Speaker 1: On on social media it's uh t J billionaire mentor 2185 02:00:23,680 --> 02:00:29,080 Speaker 1: on Instagram, on Facebook, um even on on YouTube and uh. 2186 02:00:29,240 --> 02:00:34,720 Speaker 1: For email it's Todd l d d AT and hot 2187 02:00:34,720 --> 02:00:39,240 Speaker 1: pursuit dot Com. That's uh, I don't know how you 2188 02:00:39,320 --> 02:00:42,320 Speaker 1: do it. It's and is then Nancy and then hot 2189 02:00:42,560 --> 02:00:45,400 Speaker 1: pursuit dot com. That's that's what I got on my 2190 02:00:45,480 --> 02:00:49,520 Speaker 1: paper small in hot pursuit dot Com. Just the website. 2191 02:00:50,040 --> 02:00:52,120 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Todd, can you come back on 2192 02:00:52,160 --> 02:00:54,560 Speaker 1: my show? May? I've enjoyed this. You know. I love 2193 02:00:54,640 --> 02:00:57,520 Speaker 1: talking to you because we you know, I'm from Houston, 2194 02:00:57,560 --> 02:01:00,840 Speaker 1: you're from South Carolina where Texas and talk. We both 2195 02:01:00,880 --> 02:01:03,720 Speaker 1: from the South. Now we both have different journeys, but 2196 02:01:03,800 --> 02:01:07,200 Speaker 1: I love the story we tell because it's very similar 2197 02:01:07,200 --> 02:01:10,480 Speaker 1: and I approach it just different decisions we made at 2198 02:01:10,480 --> 02:01:14,000 Speaker 1: different moments that we would ask to make a decision, 2199 02:01:14,200 --> 02:01:16,720 Speaker 1: and that's what success is all about. And I also 2200 02:01:16,840 --> 02:01:19,640 Speaker 1: love the fact that you made a statement about that 2201 02:01:19,680 --> 02:01:22,120 Speaker 1: person who just couln't see a way to get past 2202 02:01:22,120 --> 02:01:24,720 Speaker 1: the bottom line. This year, I brought a young lady 2203 02:01:24,760 --> 02:01:27,640 Speaker 1: into my life, Angel Rich. She was just working on 2204 02:01:27,680 --> 02:01:30,400 Speaker 1: my brand and she said, Richean, you need to have 2205 02:01:30,400 --> 02:01:33,200 Speaker 1: a YouTube channel for money making conversation. I said, what's audio? 2206 02:01:33,240 --> 02:01:36,560 Speaker 1: I don't think that makes any sense at all. She said, 2207 02:01:37,120 --> 02:01:40,920 Speaker 1: you you you would really excel at that, and your 2208 02:01:40,960 --> 02:01:44,520 Speaker 1: brand will hit a younger demo. And it was the 2209 02:01:44,560 --> 02:01:47,200 Speaker 1: same story. She just had to tell it to me 2210 02:01:47,240 --> 02:01:49,320 Speaker 1: different where. I launched it in February and I have 2211 02:01:49,440 --> 02:01:53,640 Speaker 1: to thirty seven thousand subscribers of YouTube and my age 2212 02:01:53,680 --> 02:01:56,440 Speaker 1: demo was eighteen and forty four eight percent of them 2213 02:01:56,520 --> 02:01:59,600 Speaker 1: or in that age range. So it made my my 2214 02:02:00,040 --> 02:02:04,000 Speaker 1: age demo just went way low. Six of my followers 2215 02:02:04,040 --> 02:02:07,600 Speaker 1: on the YouTube channel or female. So when you made 2216 02:02:07,640 --> 02:02:10,600 Speaker 1: that statement, I found it very relatable. Sometimes you have 2217 02:02:10,680 --> 02:02:14,720 Speaker 1: to talk to successful people a different way to let 2218 02:02:14,760 --> 02:02:18,640 Speaker 1: them understand the opportunity is possible. They just have to 2219 02:02:18,760 --> 02:02:21,720 Speaker 1: change the way they think. That's all you do, and 2220 02:02:21,720 --> 02:02:23,400 Speaker 1: that's what you're doing, and it makes you such an 2221 02:02:23,440 --> 02:02:26,800 Speaker 1: amazing success as a success coach. And I just wanted 2222 02:02:26,800 --> 02:02:29,640 Speaker 1: to share that moment and say I appreciate how you 2223 02:02:29,680 --> 02:02:32,160 Speaker 1: go about what you do because it happened to me 2224 02:02:32,240 --> 02:02:34,000 Speaker 1: and it made a difference in my life. It made 2225 02:02:34,040 --> 02:02:36,160 Speaker 1: a difference in my brand and made a difference in 2226 02:02:36,200 --> 02:02:40,560 Speaker 1: my income. I appreciate that. Man, that's awesome, And let 2227 02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:43,720 Speaker 1: me say this to you, thank you for what you've 2228 02:02:43,760 --> 02:02:48,040 Speaker 1: done what you do. People don't know about people like you, 2229 02:02:48,080 --> 02:02:51,040 Speaker 1: and not enough people know about people like you, like 2230 02:02:51,360 --> 02:02:54,800 Speaker 1: my first name. More people should know your first name, 2231 02:02:56,920 --> 02:02:59,400 Speaker 1: especially people in terms of you know, you're you're the 2232 02:02:59,480 --> 02:03:04,280 Speaker 1: you're the way makers, maker behind the brand, and people 2233 02:03:04,360 --> 02:03:07,200 Speaker 1: don't know the strategy and the thought and nuance that 2234 02:03:07,240 --> 02:03:10,400 Speaker 1: goes into that stuff. So I appreciate what you've done, 2235 02:03:10,440 --> 02:03:12,920 Speaker 1: and we've done for a long time for for the 2236 02:03:12,960 --> 02:03:19,880 Speaker 1: speeds of the world and other people. So I appreciate that, man, 2237 02:03:19,960 --> 02:03:22,560 Speaker 1: and uh and uh. At some point, I'm gonna have 2238 02:03:22,600 --> 02:03:26,720 Speaker 1: to get your your your restaurant list for the different 2239 02:03:26,760 --> 02:03:32,280 Speaker 1: areas of the country. Absolutely, you're absolutely, absolutely we're gonna talk, man. 2240 02:03:32,360 --> 02:03:34,560 Speaker 1: Like I said, I gotta go out in l A 2241 02:03:35,040 --> 02:03:37,840 Speaker 1: coming up because of doing some productions out there, some 2242 02:03:37,880 --> 02:03:40,800 Speaker 1: television ideas and concepts are coming out there, so I 2243 02:03:40,880 --> 02:03:43,120 Speaker 1: may be out there next month, so I'll definitely connect 2244 02:03:43,160 --> 02:03:45,480 Speaker 1: with you, man while I'm out there, just to talk. Man. 2245 02:03:45,640 --> 02:03:48,320 Speaker 1: Like I said, I just love fascinating people. I find 2246 02:03:48,320 --> 02:03:51,000 Speaker 1: you'd be a very fascinating person, a very articulate person 2247 02:03:51,080 --> 02:03:54,200 Speaker 1: about what it means to be successful. I've told people 2248 02:03:54,200 --> 02:03:57,160 Speaker 1: many times sometimes success is not defining dollars is what 2249 02:03:57,200 --> 02:03:59,760 Speaker 1: you can accomplish, and that's how I shot. But people 2250 02:03:59,760 --> 02:04:02,800 Speaker 1: say I said, I I define my success when I 2251 02:04:02,840 --> 02:04:04,600 Speaker 1: go in the store. If I go in there and 2252 02:04:04,640 --> 02:04:06,040 Speaker 1: say I want that and I can pick it up 2253 02:04:06,040 --> 02:04:07,320 Speaker 1: and I can walk out of the store with it, 2254 02:04:07,360 --> 02:04:10,280 Speaker 1: then guess what That's the success level that I've achieved 2255 02:04:10,360 --> 02:04:12,400 Speaker 1: to be able to do that, not how much it 2256 02:04:12,440 --> 02:04:14,680 Speaker 1: costs that I could actually go in there and say 2257 02:04:14,760 --> 02:04:17,879 Speaker 1: I want that I want with several of those shoes 2258 02:04:18,040 --> 02:04:21,840 Speaker 1: or that that Taylor shoes or that particular car, that house. 2259 02:04:22,400 --> 02:04:24,880 Speaker 1: And so you don't define it. Whether it's a million 2260 02:04:25,000 --> 02:04:27,520 Speaker 1: or five million, is defined on if you can if 2261 02:04:27,520 --> 02:04:29,600 Speaker 1: you can achieve it, and that's what you do as 2262 02:04:29,600 --> 02:04:32,200 Speaker 1: a success coach, and keep doing what you're doing. And 2263 02:04:32,400 --> 02:04:37,480 Speaker 1: you have a fan in me Todd. Okay, thank you 2264 02:04:37,560 --> 02:04:39,720 Speaker 1: so much for Sean, and we talked to it. Okay, 2265 02:04:39,800 --> 02:04:41,920 Speaker 1: you'll be safe out there and Beverly Hills man, and 2266 02:04:41,960 --> 02:04:44,240 Speaker 1: stay after and keep watching them cars because I might 2267 02:04:44,280 --> 02:04:47,760 Speaker 1: be driving by and one open and the g T 2268 02:04:47,200 --> 02:04:53,560 Speaker 1: and alright, be safe. Now, thank you for coming on 2269 02:04:53,600 --> 02:04:55,560 Speaker 1: the money making Conversations. If you want to hear more 2270 02:04:55,560 --> 02:04:58,400 Speaker 1: money making conversation interviews, please go to money Making Conversation 2271 02:04:58,480 --> 02:05:08,840 Speaker 1: dot com. I'm Roshan mc. I am your host, m 2272 02:05:09,080 --> 02:05:09,200 Speaker 1: HM