1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants. Hut's go, Let's go, 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Let's go Giants. 3 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 2: Dunt come I get I like it out of my 4 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 2: Giants bubble, give me some jobs part of the Giants 5 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 2: Podcast Network's role. 6 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 3: Welcome to the latest edition of the Giant Subtle Podcast, 7 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 3: presented by Citizens, the official bank of the New York Giants. 8 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 3: Giants wrap up their twenty twenty three seasons Sunday at 9 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 3: home against the Eagles, second time. These teams are squaring 10 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 3: off in the span of three weeks after Philly one 11 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 3: on Christmas thirty three, twenty five and to delve into 12 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 3: storyline surrounding this game, the playoffs, offseason, and more, we're 13 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 3: now joined by the host of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast, 14 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 3: so you can check out on social media at Ross Tucker, NFL, 15 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 3: former NFL offensive lineman who also serves as an analyst 16 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 3: for CBS and West with One Sports none other than 17 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 3: Ross Tucker. Rossy got Lance Medo here on Giants dot Com. 18 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 3: Greatly appreciate the Timehope Pole as well. How's everything on 19 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 3: your end? 20 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: My pleasure Land's good to see you, good to talk 21 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: with you, and yeah, everything's pretty good, you know. Obviously, 22 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: I do a decent amount of work in filled it 23 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: and for the Eagles, so could. 24 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: Be going a little bit better. 25 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: I from being honest, has not been a good stretch 26 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 2: for them over the last month or so. 27 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, man, happy new Year. 28 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 2: Excited to see how this season finished it up for 29 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 2: everybody and then get into the playoffs. 30 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And that's a big reason why I wanted John 31 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 3: the podcast. And let's start with the Eagles because I'm 32 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: curious your perspective ross about their approach to this game. 33 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 3: We heard from Nick Sirianni earlier in the week throw 34 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 3: out that they could rest some of their starters. Now 35 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: we know the Dallas game at Washington is going to 36 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 3: be going up simultaneously to the Eagles and the Giants game, 37 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 3: and Dallas controls its own destiny. 38 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 4: The Eagles need the Cowboys to lose. 39 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 3: As a former player, what do you think the best 40 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 3: approach for the Eagles is? 41 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 4: Do you look at the scoreboard? 42 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: Does that determine how you navigate this game? Or do 43 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 3: you say, hey, we've lost four of our last five. 44 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: We need to start clicking heading into the postseason. 45 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: Right, So, I think first and foremost, you play all 46 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: your starters, start all your starters, because you really only 47 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 2: look stupid, in my opinion, if you know, for some reason, 48 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 2: the Commanders are up in the third quarter on the 49 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: Cowboys and Jalen Hurts is standing on the sideline in 50 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 2: street closed, that would not be a good look, right 51 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,839 Speaker 2: like that? That would be no good and you would 52 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 2: be second guest forever, and probably rightfully so, because it's 53 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: just such a difference, right, And that's why the loss 54 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: for the Eagles to the Arizona Cardinals was so devastating. 55 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 2: I mean, you're talking about the potential to host two 56 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 2: home playoff games as number two seed versus. 57 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: Having to go the long road of highly. 58 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: Likely having to play three road playoff games obviously if 59 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: you even get that far. So I think you play 60 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 2: your guys, and I think you start them. I do 61 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 2: think they would never admit this or say this, but 62 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 2: I do think you probably do scoreboard wise, and you 63 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: probably do consider how the game is going against the Giants, right, 64 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: I mean, if the game is going really well and 65 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: you have a lead and the Cowboys are looking like 66 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: they're going to win the game, then maybe you pull 67 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: your guys. 68 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: I think the opposite of that's true, too. 69 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 2: Right, if things aren't going well and the Cowboys have 70 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 2: I think either way, maybe you get some of your 71 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: guys out of there so they don't suffer an injury. 72 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: But certainly, with the way the last five games have 73 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 2: gone for the Eagles, they really need to be feeling 74 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: better about themselves, have some confidence going into the playoffs, 75 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 2: because right now they just don't well. 76 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 3: Speaking of the outlook for this Eagles team, Ross you 77 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 3: look at the last three games, they have watched comfortable 78 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 3: halftime leads dissipate. I know they held on to beat 79 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 3: the Giants, but the Cardinals scored four touchdowns. It looked 80 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 3: like an offensive jugger not and we've seen a defense 81 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: that has had its fair share of issues stopping the run, 82 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 3: not getting after the quarterback as consistently as last season, 83 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 3: the turnovers for Jalen Hurts. 84 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 4: What went wrong this season? 85 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 3: Why are they not as strong as what we witnessed 86 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 3: last season as they rowed all the way to the 87 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 3: Super Bowl? 88 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 2: Kind of a million dollar question, right, I Mean, I'm 89 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 2: from outside of Philadelphia, so that's the question I get 90 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: pretty much every. 91 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: Day, Lance What happened? 92 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: Because not only that, I mean, you know, we're talking 93 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 2: about five weeks ago, they were ten and one. Every 94 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: other NFL team had at least three losses. Jalen Hurts 95 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: was the MVP favorite. They looked like a really solid 96 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: bet to be the number one seed in the NFC. 97 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: Most people like me on the Rosstucker Football Podcast had 98 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: them number one in my power rankings. I will say 99 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 2: this though, even at that moment, they clearly didn't feel 100 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: as good of a team as they did a year ago. 101 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: They have never clicked on offense as well this year 102 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: as they did last year. Maybe that has to do 103 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: with Shane Steiken, the former offensive coordinator who's now in Indianapolis. 104 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: You know, some people think that people spent the whole 105 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: offseason coming up with better ways to try to defend 106 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: this offense, and that that has been part of it. 107 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: The one thing that's definitely clear is that they're not 108 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 2: as good on defense, and I never thought they would 109 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 2: be as good on defense. First of all, they lost 110 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator and Jonathan Gannon is now the head 111 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: coach the Arizona Cardinals. But they clearly got worse at 112 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: linebacker and safety. You know, there's no doubt about it. 113 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 2: And even though they brought both of their corners back. 114 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 2: Those guys are a year older, they're probably not as 115 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: good as they were last year, and they lost their nickelback, 116 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: Avonte Maddox for most of the season. And even the 117 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: linebackers they do have, like a Zach Cunningham, who's clearly 118 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: been their best linebacker. He's been out the last few games. 119 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 2: So it's all of those things combined. They've had a 120 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 2: much tougher schedule this year. They went through a really 121 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 2: tough stretch. Their D line rotation is not as deep. 122 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: You know, you lose a guy like Javon Hargrave and 123 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 2: for agency to the Niners, they're not as deep on 124 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: the D line. I think the extra snaps, the extra 125 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 2: reps have worn on those guys. I think they're two 126 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: young Georgia d tackles, Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter have 127 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 2: hit a little bit of a rookie wall. I know 128 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: it's a year two for Davis, but he got hurt 129 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 2: last year, so I. 130 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: Think all those things are combined. 131 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 2: They also haven't played with the lead as much this 132 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: year as they did last year, but to your point, 133 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: they did the last three games, and the defense, in 134 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: particular the defensive line still wasn't able to really close 135 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 2: it out for him. 136 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 3: Well, and that brings me to the Giants matchup here 137 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 3: the second time around, because I think the Giants takeaway 138 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: from the first meeting was well, they were with them 139 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 3: for the majority of the second half. And you know, 140 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 3: these Eagles Giants games have been fairly lopsided really over. 141 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 4: The last decade. But he wrote an interesting. 142 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 3: Article ross recently for the thirty third team, and you 143 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 3: made the case there is no such thing as a 144 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 3: meaningless football game. 145 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 4: And we know the Giants are. 146 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 3: Mathematically out of it, and we could talk about pride 147 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: and guys trying to put good film out there, But 148 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 3: what else do you think the Giants could take away 149 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: from a game like this as they enter an offseason 150 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 3: where they have some questions in various positions that need addressing. 151 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the Giants are a little bit different because 152 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: I don't know that there will be major changes on 153 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: the coaching staff. I mean there could be, but usually 154 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 2: when you're a team that's already kind of out of 155 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: it at this point, there's a lot of speculations surrounding 156 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: the head coach. I don't think that that's the case 157 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 2: with the Giants. But there's going to be changes, right Like, 158 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 2: you can't have this bad of a year and they're 159 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 2: not be changes. And a lot of those will have 160 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: to do with the personnel. So those guys that are 161 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: playing on Sunday for the Giants, you know, they're playing 162 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: to try to stay there, try they're playing to try 163 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: to keep that job and that roster spot for next year, 164 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 2: and how they perform in this game will be sort 165 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: of the last impression for their coaching staff and how 166 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: they've played this year. And the only thing I know 167 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: for sure, Lance, because I was around it a lot. 168 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: Unfortunately my first three years in the NFL, that my 169 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: head coach got fired, I was like, I guess the 170 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: original coach killer. I don't know, But how you finish 171 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 2: matters a lot, you know, from a coaching standpoint, for 172 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: the coordinators, for the players, it makes a big difference. 173 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 2: It's kind of like your your closing argument, your closing statement, 174 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 2: if you will. So that's a big part of it 175 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 2: for the guys. 176 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: And even if there's a decent. 177 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: Chance that they're not going to be there in New 178 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: York because maybe they are going to make a change 179 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 2: with some of these players, you better play well enough 180 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 2: that you can get a job somewhere else. I mean, 181 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 2: I I argue at times that these games are are 182 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 2: more meaningfull for a lot of the players for the 183 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 2: bad teams or the team are going to the playoffs, 184 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 2: and they are for the teams. 185 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 1: That are going to the playoffs. Teams that are going 186 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: to the. 187 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 2: Playoffs might not make as many changes as the teams 188 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 2: that have fallen way short. And you're looking at a 189 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: Giants team that really still has some personnel challenges and 190 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: some roster challenges that that they're going to be looking 191 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 2: at in the offseason. Plus, I do think, you know, 192 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: Giants fans, it's the last home game, it's the last game. 193 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: It's been a disappointing year. I think it would really 194 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: be nice for them to beat the Eagles. I mean, 195 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: you probably know more than me. 196 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 2: It feels like it's been a while since they've beaten 197 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: the Eagles. It feels like the Eagles. 198 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: Just kind of own the Giants. 199 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 2: And even in a disappointing year, you know, it's kind 200 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 2: of like you're the last game of a college season 201 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 2: where you play your rival, right, it would be nice, 202 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: even in a disappointing year, to be able to beat 203 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 2: the Eagles and kind of get off that, get that 204 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 2: monkey off their back. 205 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 5: You love turs, You're good at it. So you started 206 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 5: turfizusiness grows, your savings grow, become the most celebrated name 207 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 5: in turf. Are you ready for all that life brings? 208 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: Well? 209 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 3: Especially since they lost to this team three times last season, 210 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 3: including in the playoffs, and they've now lost eleven in 211 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 3: a row in Philadelphia. 212 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 4: They did beat them at MetLife Stadium in recent history. 213 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 3: But Ross, your point is well taken, as this is 214 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 3: the huddle brought to you by Citizens, the official bank 215 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 3: of the New York Giants. 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One of 221 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 3: the decisions Ross, that the Giants are going to have 222 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 3: to make this offseason, and we don't know exactly where they're. 223 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 4: Going to pick, but as it stands right now, they 224 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 4: have the fifth overall pick. 225 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 3: And you also wrote about quarterback injuries which have been 226 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 3: overwhelming this year across the NFL. They've played three different quarterbacks. 227 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 3: Daniel Jones is going to be recovering from a torn 228 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 3: acl I'm curious your perspective. If you're the Giant, Tommy 229 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 3: DeVito is the only healthy QB under contract for next season, 230 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 3: Tyrod Taylor is a free agent. How much do you 231 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 3: have to consider about using that top five pick potentially 232 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 3: on a quarterback regardless of how you feel about Daniel Jones. 233 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: Well, I don't think it's regardless of how you feel 234 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 2: about Daniel Jones. I think certainly they're going to bring 235 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 2: in another quarterback one way or the other. Right, it 236 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 2: will be Daniel Jones, de veto and at least one 237 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 2: other guy, which I think is interesting too, whether that 238 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 2: other guy is a veteran, or whether that other guy 239 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: is a draft choice, because you know, maybe it's a 240 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 2: guy like Joe Flacco Lance, a guy that you think 241 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: gives you a chance to win while Daniel Jones is rehabbing, 242 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 2: or if Daniel Jones gets hurt again. Daniel Jones is 243 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: still a young player and with his contract, ask yourself 244 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 2: if it makes sense to take another quarterback number five overall, However, 245 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 2: you know the thing that concerns me about Daniel and 246 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 2: I'm a fan of his, by the way, you know, 247 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 2: by the way, I don't know if you know this, Lance. 248 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 2: He was committed to my alma mater, Princeton before he 249 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 2: got a very late scholarship offer from Duke, So I'm 250 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 2: not real happy with Duke. That would have been sweet 251 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 2: if we had Daniel Jones for four years as our 252 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: quarterback in the IVY League. My concerns with Daniel are threefold. 253 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 2: I guess number one is just the on field performance. Right, 254 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 2: it was not great this year again, and they don't 255 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 2: have good receivers, right, they don't have great weapons around him, 256 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: and the offensive line was struggling and all that stuff. 257 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: But he still didn't. 258 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 2: Perform as well as I thought he would coming off 259 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 2: of how he played the back half of the twenty 260 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: twenty two season. But then now you have a guy 261 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: who maybe his best trait right now is his running 262 00:12:55,320 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 2: ability coming off of torn ACL. And before with the 263 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: torn ACL, he had neck issues again, and as a 264 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 2: guy whose career ended whether hernet disk and my neck, 265 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: I'm concerned about that. I'm concerned that he's now had 266 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: multiple neck injuries in his career. So you've got a 267 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 2: guy who the mobility is a big aspect of what 268 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 2: makes him successful, coming off of torn acl with two 269 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 2: neck injuries in his career that have caused him to 270 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: miss time. That's that's troubling to me. Troubling enough that 271 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 2: if you loved one of these young players. 272 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: I think you would consider it. Now, what makes this 273 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: this year unique. 274 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 2: Is I feel like there's a lot of good quarterbacks 275 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 2: coming out. Right, there's a lot of you know, people 276 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 2: talk at the top about Drake May and Caleb Williams, 277 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 2: but there's other guys that you know, have a legitimate chance, right, 278 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 2: Michael Pennix and Bo Nix, And we'll see what happens 279 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 2: with JJ McCarthy and some of these other guys that 280 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 2: are going to be in the draft. My question is, 281 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: you know, I almost feel like it'd be a deal 282 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 2: if the Giants could take with that fifth overall pick 283 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: a real foundational player, whether that's a receiver or a 284 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: Rock Bowers, a sort of the heir apparent to Darren Waller, 285 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: or an offensive tackle. Although I know that might not 286 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: go over too well with Giants fans, I would love 287 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: to see them get a foundational player and then maybe, 288 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 2: you know, take a stab at a quarterback in round two. 289 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 2: One of these guys that ends up falling that really 290 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 2: shows some promise, you know, take your Drew brees Kirk 291 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: Cousins heck Lamar Jackson was the last pick of the 292 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: first round, right, like, take take that stab as your 293 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 2: young developmental guy that might have a chance in round 294 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: two as opposed to round one because of the fact 295 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 2: that Daniel Jones still does have that guaranteed money and 296 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: might end up being able to bounce back from these injuries. 297 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: To be your long term answer. 298 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 3: I think all very good points, but as you highlighted, 299 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 3: you do have to take it to consideration the fact 300 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 3: that Daniel has only gone in through one season fully 301 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 3: healthy because of his injuries even before the torn ACL 302 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: So I think. 303 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 4: That's some food for thought. 304 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 3: And Ross I wouldn't overlooked your point about an offensive lineman, 305 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 3: Evan Neil, their right tackle. He has missed fourteen games 306 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 3: in the last two seasons. He has been hit by 307 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 3: the injury bug this year. How much do you think 308 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: they need to take it to consideration depth And the 309 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 3: other thing that I'm curious is the second part of 310 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 3: that question, And this was something else you wrote interestingly 311 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 3: about for the thirty third team as a former offensive lineman, 312 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 3: how challenging it is today to develop offensive lineman on 313 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 3: your depth chart if you can't get them out on 314 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:48,479 Speaker 3: the field. 315 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 4: And perhaps something that the Giants have had some issues with, right. 316 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 2: And obviously it's interesting because Andrew Thomas struggled as a 317 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: rookie and then he's gone on to become a really 318 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: good player. And I think the hope expectation was that 319 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 2: Evan Neil would would follow a similar path. I'm not 320 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 2: sure that that's happened yet. I'm not sure though that 321 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 2: the Giants are ready to kind of give up on 322 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 2: Evan Neil in that regard and draft another offensive tackle 323 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 2: that high in the top ten, because honestly, like what 324 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 2: happens if you what happens if you do it again? 325 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 2: You know what happens if you draft another one in 326 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 2: the top ten and they also don't pan out like 327 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: Neil kind of hasn't to this point so far, so 328 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: that there's a lot there, Uh, you know, in terms 329 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 2: of the development, it's hard, man. I mean, it's not 330 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: as many practices as there used to be. Is not 331 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 2: as many ota there's as many padded practices, There's not 332 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 2: as much contact. They don't play as many snaps in 333 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 2: the preseason game. I mean, there's there, there's anything you 334 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: do in life and lands you've been. 335 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: To broadcaster for a while, so have I. 336 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 2: Man, I'm so much better than I used to be, 337 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: you know, Like, I'm just more comfortable no matter what 338 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 2: I'm doing. Getting a chance to do some NFL games 339 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 2: on CBS this year, and I just my confidence level 340 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 2: was very high because I've done it a lot, and 341 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 2: I feel very comfortable with who I am as a 342 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 2: broadcaster and what I bring to the table. And I 343 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 2: think that a lot of these offensive linemen are not 344 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 2: afford that opportunity. 345 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: But we have seen guys that teams have stuck with. 346 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 2: Garrett Bowles and Denver comes to mind now as a 347 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 2: guy that was undrafted Lance, I kind of get frustrated 348 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 2: by it because I see these first round picks where 349 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 2: if I played like they played, I would have been 350 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 2: cut yesterday. 351 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: But because of how high. 352 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,239 Speaker 2: They're drafted, they get chance after chance after chance. They 353 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 2: get a chance to work through some of their issues 354 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 2: and kind of come out on the other side, which 355 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 2: is great and it's good for those guys. I've often 356 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 2: wondered though, like how many mid to late round picks 357 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 2: are undrafted. Guys would be able to have success too. 358 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 2: If a team showed that type of patience with they 359 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 2: just don't get that opportunity. 360 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 5: You're ready for a change. Pay Day comes early with Citizens, 361 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 5: So go to that retreat. Knew you move to the country. 362 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 5: Now you're raising goats and launching a lifestyle brand. Are 363 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 5: you ready for all that life brings? 364 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, Patients is a rare term that is practiced in 365 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 3: today's NFL. I think that's well said. Giants fans level winner. 366 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 3: It's why they love Citizens named the twenty twenty two 367 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 3: best bank in the US by the Banker as the 368 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 3: official bank of the Giants and sponsor of the Huddle. 369 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 3: Citizens is made ready for fans of Big Blue. Learn 370 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 3: more at Citizens bank dot com. Speaking of movement on 371 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 3: the offensive line, Russ I want to transition to storylines 372 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 3: in the postseason because I think one of the most 373 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 3: impressive teams has been the Cleveland Browns. If you brought 374 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 3: up Joe Flacco is maybe a Giants target this offseason. 375 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 4: Cleveland's been through four quarterbacks. 376 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 3: They lose Nick Chubb, they lost both starting tackles in 377 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,479 Speaker 3: Jack Conklin and Jedrick Wills. And yet we're looking at 378 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 3: a team that won eleven games and who knows, maybe 379 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 3: able to go on a dangerous run of course, depending 380 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 3: on matchups. How did Cleveland manage to navigate issues that? 381 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 3: I mean even the Giants went through and had trouble 382 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 3: keeping afloat in that department. 383 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 2: Well, so, number one, you know, Kevin Stefanski made the 384 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 2: hard decision to let go of his defensive coordinator after 385 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: last year, and Jim Schwartz came in and he's been fantastic, right, 386 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 2: I think Jim Schwartz is kind of just what they needed. 387 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 2: And in fairness, you know, they knew that they needed 388 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 2: to get better along the defensive line and they did 389 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 2: that right. They brought in guys like Dalvin Tomlinson and 390 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 2: they've been much better up front than they were last 391 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 2: year the last couple of years, so they've had arguably 392 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 2: the best defense in football all year. That's a pretty 393 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 2: darn good place to start. But to your point, I mean, 394 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 2: they lose their star running back, their franchise quarterback, and 395 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 2: not just their first two tackles, lance they lost Dwan Jones, 396 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 2: who was their third tackle. YEP, he's done for the year, 397 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: so they got essentially their fourth and fifth offensive tackles 398 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 2: out there. That usually sinks teams, right, Like, you can 399 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 2: lose one, maybe two, you lose your top three guys, 400 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 2: You're usually playing with guys that don't really give you 401 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 2: a chance to win the game. Bill Callahan, their offensive 402 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 2: line coach, deserves a ton of credit for that. 403 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: And then certainly bringing in. 404 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 2: Joe Flaco, and you know, it's a great look for 405 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 2: the Kevin Sefanski and the Browns. 406 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: I think he's the coach of the Year in the NFL. 407 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 2: I think it's a bad look quite frankly for the Jets, right, 408 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what was Flaco like one 409 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 2: to nine as a starter the last couple of years 410 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 2: when he got in for the Jets, and now you know, 411 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 2: he goes to Cleveland. He plays this well. Now, I'm 412 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: sure Flaco, for whatever reason's playing better. But man, you 413 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 2: got to give Stefanski a lot of credit. I think 414 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: I saw some more where they have twenty eight percent 415 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 2: of their salary cap is on IR That is just 416 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: unbelievable that they're still playing this well. And I'm kind 417 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 2: of I'm intrigued by them. I'm kind of rooting for them. 418 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 2: I think it'd be fun if Flacco could get them 419 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 2: on the run. You know, if they win that first 420 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: game against the AFC South Division champ, Joe Flacco will 421 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 2: have the NFL record for road victories for a starting quarterback. 422 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 2: That's amazing statistic. I mean, that's an impressive statistic. Winning 423 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 2: road playoff games is not easy. 424 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 3: No, that's a phenomenal statistic under the circumstances that he 425 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 3: wasn't even a member of the team that long ago. 426 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 4: In terms of what he's been doing in Cleveland. 427 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 3: As a quick follow up though to that, and I 428 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 3: think you make an excellent point. They could very well 429 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 3: beat the AFC South winner Ross because they've actually defeated 430 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 3: all three of those teams that are in the mix 431 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 3: to win the division. Can anyone challenge the Baltimore Ravens. 432 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 3: And if there is a team, do you think it's 433 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 3: Cleveland because they have familiarity within the division. Because right now, Ross, 434 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 3: that Ravens team looks like a well oiled machine based 435 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 3: on what they did to two of the top offenses 436 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 3: in the NFL. 437 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: Playing really really well. 438 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 2: And what's interesting about them is the production they've gotten 439 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 2: in the pass rush without really having elite rushers, right. 440 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 2: I mean, that's why that decordinator Mike McDonald deserves a 441 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 2: ton of credit. 442 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: She get a head coaching job somewhere. You know. 443 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 2: Gidevion Clowney, It's like he's found the fountain of youth 444 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 2: down there. 445 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: Their scheme is so good, you know. 446 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 2: Heck, we saw it with Michigan, similar scheme with what 447 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 2: they were able to do against Alabama in. 448 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: The Rose Bowl. 449 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 2: I think there's three teams that could really give the 450 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 2: Ravens a good game. I think it's the Buffalo Bills 451 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 2: the way they're playing right now, and with having Josh Allen, 452 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 2: it's still the Chiefs. Man, it's still the Chiefs. And 453 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 2: I know that Dave's chuggled, but you know, let's put 454 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 2: it this way. Ravens fans, Ravens players, they wouldn't be 455 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 2: real happy with Patrick Mahomes Andy Reid coming to town. 456 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: I know they wouldn't, right, And then the last one's 457 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: Flaco and the Browns. You know, they wouldn't be afraid. 458 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: They play him twice a year. They're not intimidated by him. 459 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 2: And I know Ravens fans that would be like torture 460 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 2: to see Flaco come in to Baltimore and throw some 461 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 2: of those beautiful rainbows that he throws with the deep ball. 462 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: They've seen it. They've seen it in January football a 463 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: lot over the years. 464 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,959 Speaker 3: And Cleveland already knocked off Baltimore thirty three thirty one 465 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 3: in a game they were trailing by double figures. 466 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 4: I'm with you. I think the Browns are. 467 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 3: Definitely a team to watch out for because division rivals 468 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 3: always can be damaging come playoff time. Ross greatly appreciate 469 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 3: the time of the inside. Before I let you go, though, 470 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 3: I know Valentine's Day is fast approaching, and you have 471 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 3: a website, myfront page story dot com, which I think 472 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 3: maybe some people be intro if they need a last 473 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 3: second gift to here to plan accordingly. So before is yours. 474 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 2: I'm showing you what it looks like right now. Lance, 475 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 2: my buddy started the company. I'm telling you it's by 476 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 2: far the best Valentine's Day gift. And I know it's 477 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 2: maybe a little early for Valentine's Day, but then you 478 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 2: just make a New Year's resolution to be more proactive 479 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 2: in life, to be to get ahead of things a 480 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 2: little bit more and not not procrastinate, wait till the end. 481 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 2: Go to myfront page story dot com. You literally talk 482 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 2: to one of their writers Lance for ten minutes. Tell 483 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 2: them how great your significant other is. They write this 484 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 2: incredible story. It looks like it's on the cover of 485 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: the newspaper, framed beautiful. 486 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: And now, because my. 487 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 2: Buddy started the company, I've seen so many videos now 488 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 2: when they're opening it to be able to just say, Lance, hey, babe, 489 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 2: I wanted something special, so I had a story written 490 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 2: about you. 491 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: Like that just sounds awesome. 492 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 2: ID it's like you got Mitch album right or Mike 493 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 2: Lupa got to write a story about them. And then 494 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 2: when they actually read it and they read the quotes 495 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 2: like I don't think her enough for everything she does 496 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 2: for me or me and the kids, they cry almost 497 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 2: every time. It's amazing. Highly recommend it, Fellaws my front 498 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 2: page story dot com, myfront page story dot com. 499 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 3: Plus she can then remind her better half or her 500 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 3: lesser half every time you walk by the frame on 501 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 3: the wall. 502 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 4: So that's not a bad thing either. 503 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 2: Well, no, that's the key, right, because then you get 504 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 2: an argument and you just point to like, did you 505 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 2: get a story you're written about me and how. 506 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 1: Great I am. 507 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 2: You I can't remember because I got story written about 508 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 2: you and how great you are. 509 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: It's incredible, dude, I love it. 510 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 4: Awesome. 511 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 3: Well, Ross always loved going back and forth with you. 512 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 3: Greatly appreciate the insight. 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