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Speaker 1: Happy Monday, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into Texans All Access from the Hyundai Texans Radio studio.

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Speaker 2: John Harris football on a sideline reporter alongside the voice

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Speaker 2: of the Texans, Mark Van Muir, Mark, Good afternoon, good evening.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing. It feels like afternoon because these

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Speaker 1: are the longest days of the year. Yeah, in a

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Speaker 1: good way.

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Speaker 3: I mean, so I'm I'm told, yeah, this is what

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Speaker 3: you want, the equinox. This is what that's what it is, right,

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Speaker 3: and then six months later you get the opposite, the

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Speaker 3: shortest days of the year. But we live in Texas

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Speaker 3: where it kind of stays warm. You know, I might

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Speaker 3: get a little cold wave. That sounds pretty good right

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Speaker 3: about now, a little cold wave. But anyway, Yeah, great weekend.

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Speaker 3: Rockets made some big news. I know, I don't know

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Speaker 3: what you have planned. You and I did not talk

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Speaker 3: about this, but I know you got something planned I

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Speaker 3: relevant or related sort of to that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not just sort of, I mean pre yeah that,

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Speaker 2: but we'll we'll get to that in a second. And

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Speaker 2: it was a pretty wild weekend. LSU wins the College

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Speaker 2: World Series. The umpires were not complicit in LSU winning it,

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Speaker 2: but they showed their backside, throwing out the coastal manager. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: thirty Like I think it was thirty pitches into the game. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: twenty eight pitches into the game, threw him out, warn him.

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Speaker 2: I absolutely just And this is why the Harris family

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Speaker 2: has this love hate relationship with officiating and umpiring for

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Speaker 2: that reason.

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Speaker 1: And you know, you know how I feel about this.

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Speaker 2: One of my most famous losses was all result of

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Speaker 2: guys that could tell you every rule in the rule book,

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Speaker 2: but they couldn't manage the damn game yet. Manage That

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Speaker 2: always became my theory. It's like, manage the game. That's

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Speaker 2: why I like Cleete Blakeman. Cleet manages the game. He

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Speaker 2: knows how the game needs to be managed. That game

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Speaker 2: manager got a warning. Fifteen seconds later he's getting tossed,

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Speaker 2: and it's like, come on, man, it's in the first

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Speaker 2: damn inning of Game two of the seed US National Championship.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's red.

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Speaker 3: You whatever happened to like going over and talking and

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Speaker 3: arguing and face to face an earl weaver.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's a little extreme to go full, a

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Speaker 1: little dated, but that's okay.

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Speaker 3: It's dated, that's okay, but it's worth watching because The

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Speaker 3: point is, you don't get much of that anymore.

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Speaker 1: And I know you don't want to have that kind of.

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Speaker 3: Show in college baseball especially, but a little bit of

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Speaker 3: it is okay, a little argument, and say, listen, you

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Speaker 3: know you're gonna get a toss next. And I know

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Speaker 3: how people lose their minds in athletic competition, there's no doubt. Look,

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Speaker 3: I was coaching basketball last week and I Bad Mark

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Speaker 3: came out at the end of the game to the

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Speaker 3: scorers table, and then I immediately had made amends right after,

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Speaker 3: after twenty seconds of cool off. But right away I

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Speaker 3: was a little hot about something.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I've seen bad Mark. He doesn't come out very often.

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Speaker 2: He stays in his little hole.

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Speaker 1: I keep them hidden.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so bad Mark. Just so I have a reference point.

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Speaker 2: Twenty fourteen Washington Redskins. We get knocked off the air,

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Speaker 2: Bad Mark.

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Speaker 3: Not that bad, not that, but a taste of it,

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Speaker 3: a little if that's a drink, A couple of SIPs,

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Speaker 3: A couple of SIPs of that Bad Mark.

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Speaker 2: Okay, listen, Bad Mark and bad John live on two

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Speaker 2: different planets.

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Speaker 3: It's two different planet and people don't believe it. People

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Speaker 3: don't believe that I can get mad.

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Speaker 1: You get mad. That's funny. I've never seen that. I

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Speaker 1: want to see that. No, you don't. The best part

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Speaker 1: is you told me this.

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Speaker 2: Our first year together was twenty fourteen, and you and

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Speaker 2: I know each other before that. But in twenty fourteen,

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Speaker 2: I in the building and I remember one day we

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Speaker 2: were in the room next door and You're like, oh this,

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Speaker 2: you didn't say bad.

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Speaker 1: Mark. You're like, oh, I got that. I've got that

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Speaker 1: club in my bag. And I just remember sitting over there, going,

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Speaker 2: And then twenty fourteen, first game I've ever, first game

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Speaker 2: station where that happened regularly. So I was just like,

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Speaker 2: all right, whatever, make do met Mark came out that

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Speaker 3: So was upset, Yeah, that's that upset. The entire twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty one first half of the season. I was that

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Speaker 3: upset over engineering issues with Texans Radio in the booth.

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Speaker 3: If you mess with the booth or if one if

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Speaker 3: one messes with something in the booth, bad mark will

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Speaker 3: come out because that is sacred territory and especially avoidable mistakes.

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Speaker 3: Right now, we have the best crew going right now,

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Speaker 3: we just have it going on, and even good people

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Speaker 3: sometimes have made errors. Me concluded, Okay, I'm not I

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Speaker 3: would think to make an error in many situations. That's

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Speaker 3: coming out all wrong. I've made mistakes, but it can happen, sure,

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Speaker 3: but it's still not going to make me happy.

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Speaker 1: But when it does happen, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes it's made me happy because I feel like I've

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Speaker 2: cleansed as I've let it go.

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Speaker 1: But uh not often.

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Speaker 2: The other part of this was in that whole situation

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Speaker 2: was and Coastal Carolina got beat by LSU and congratulations

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Speaker 2: as Tigers were pairing that lead, but the first base

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Speaker 2: official or umpire was running in and in kind of

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Speaker 2: the melee, he gets knocked down and he starts screaming about, oh,

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Speaker 1: It's like, no, he tripped. So it was like the

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Speaker 1: entire umpiring.

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Speaker 2: Crew just making you know, you know what, out of themselves,

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Speaker 2: and it was like, that's hard.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't It wasn't necessary.

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Speaker 2: And that's why I just I've always said that you

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Speaker 2: give me an MP or a REF that I understands

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Speaker 2: how to manage the game, those things aren't going to happen.

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Speaker 2: And you know, they had to do balls and strikes,

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Speaker 2: and I understand, I get it. You know, everybody's fired up,

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Speaker 2: everybody's amped up. You gave him and he couldn't hear you.

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Speaker 2: Twenty five thousand people in the place. He couldn't even

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Speaker 2: hear what you were saying. And then he leans out

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Speaker 2: of He's like, what did you say? And he said,

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Speaker 2: so balls and strikes and he's like, okay, good because

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Speaker 2: you missed three l right, that's all he said.

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Speaker 1: He got tossed for that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's arguing balls and strikes in their ideas.

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Speaker 1: And he goes, that's enough. It's a zero tolerance policy.

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Speaker 3: I guess Johnny and I had to kind of that

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Speaker 1: And the Land of AI.

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Speaker 3: It's just getting to the point where and I know,

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Speaker 3: reviews get so they bobbed the game down in basketball,

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Really we got to sit through another

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Speaker 3: review and its forever. Can we have ai to say Nope? Yes,

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Speaker 3: I mean in this case, but I think we'll get there.

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Speaker 3: I feel like we're going to get there. I think

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Speaker 3: we will. But it'll be weird that the robots are

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Speaker 3: better than we are and they're deciding these games.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. The robots. Yeah, the robots.

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Speaker 1: Now we're going to complain about the robots. Hey, the robots. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and the robot is always right. The robot.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait till a quarterback after a game is like,

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Speaker 2: you know what happened tonight?

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Speaker 1: Look?

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Speaker 2: Man, the robots just took over and it was gonna

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Speaker 3: What happened to humanity? The robots took over? Yeah, like

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Speaker 3: the Pat tricks. We're all batteries now, Yeah, you mentioned it.

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Speaker 3: The big news in Houston.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Durant traded to the Rockets and that was kind

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Speaker 2: of early on Sunday. Yeah, like whoa, Okay, so a

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Speaker 2: lot of people had time to digest this. I know

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Speaker 2: Shawn ha Seith that I listened to this morning, we're

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Speaker 2: talking about it. I would have liked to have heard

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Speaker 2: Brian Geltzeiler from Serious xmmba good friend of.

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Speaker 1: Mine, get it on the Odyssey app.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm doing the way home, which is typically

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Speaker 2: what I do to listen to things that I've missed.

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Speaker 1: But if you missed it, I don't know where you've been.

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Speaker 2: But Kevin Durant will come to Houston in exchange for

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Speaker 2: Jalen Green, Dylan Brooks and all losing Brooks the number

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Speaker 2: but then last summer rophel Stone traded for those Phoenix

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Speaker 2: these Phoenix Huns picks, and so they get to ten

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Speaker 2: back for this year in five second rounders in twenty

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Speaker 2: NBA order, The Rockets do have a pick they have

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Speaker 2: mister Irrelevant in the twenty twenty five draft coming.

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Speaker 1: Up on Tuesday. They have the last of the second

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Speaker 1: round picks. I think fifty nine to sixty whatever that

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Speaker 1: number is. Okay, so that's the trade. Yeah, Okay.

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Speaker 2: At first glance, I look at it and go, I

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Speaker 2: like that trade. But it got me thinking because there

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Speaker 2: have been over time and I'm not talking just you know,

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Speaker 2: the entire franchise history for these three, but in the

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Speaker 2: last fifteen years ish or less, Astros Rockets Texans have

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Speaker 2: all made significant trades that have kind of rocked everybody

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Speaker 2: who's like, whoa, what did we just do? Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: we got this guy? Oh what wait? Who's that?

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Speaker 1: And then that guy turns into a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 2: So I want to go back and I want your

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Speaker 2: thought that we're gonna start with the Texans and look

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Speaker 2: at some of these trades that the Texans have had,

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Speaker 2: what we thought at the time and what it ended

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Speaker 2: up being, and did it change our mind about that

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we're gonna start with the.

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Speaker 2: Texans in this one in twenty nineteen, and you know

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Speaker 2: where I'm going with this. Yeah, Laromie Tonsall and Kenny

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Speaker 2: Stills come to Houston for two first round picks, a

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Speaker 2: second round pick, a fourth rounder, a sixth rounder, and

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Speaker 2: Julian Davenport and Johnson Bademosi thought, at the time of

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Speaker 2: the trade, and now that the trade is being completed,

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Speaker 2: what do we think about this particular trade.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was a lot to give up, but

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Speaker 3: I was really happy to get Laramie. At the time,

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Speaker 3: I was thinking, Okay, you gave up a ton to

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Speaker 3: get him, but at least you have one of the

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Speaker 3: very best in the game. So no matter what your

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Speaker 3: feelings are about losing all that draft capital, everything he

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Speaker 3: gave up, you got Laramie.

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Speaker 1: Tunsel. I was worried that he wasn't signed upon delivery.

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Speaker 1: That was yeah, that was a.

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Speaker 3: Bother to me because I thought, wait a minute, there's

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Speaker 3: no leverage here to have him sign. Now you're basically

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Speaker 3: you can all for nothing forced well, and you're forced

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Speaker 3: to pay him whatever he wants at this point because

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Speaker 3: you can't have him walk after giving up everything he

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Speaker 3: gave up. I like getting Stills in the deal too,

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Speaker 3: and he Stills was good for this team for a while.

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Speaker 3: For a year he was good year and a half,

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Speaker 3: but especially that year he was good.

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Speaker 3: But I think overall, there's no question it was a success.

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Speaker 2: Yep, absolutely, Okay, next trade, these are no particular Okay.

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Speaker 1: I thought this was a great deal. I thought of

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Speaker 3: We did not invest that much in this anyway. With Diggs,

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Speaker 3: I felt like they checked it out. They checked it out,

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Speaker 3: I think lot it changes at least one more win, Johnny,

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Speaker 2: I think I felt the time was a good trade.

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, the day covid hits.

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Speaker 2: Essentially, Texas trade DeAndre Hopkins and a fourth rounder to

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Speaker 1: I hated it. Then, however, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think hop would have wasn't it twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: So this happens. But I'm with you. I love Top,

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Speaker 1: You had to get whatever the return was. This is

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Speaker 3: You had to get at least one first rounder in

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Speaker 3: Going to be very important too, because you want it

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Speaker 1: The most of the situation. I can't yeh out don him?

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Speaker 3: We all know it. You and I went live that night.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so here's one. We don't talk about this a lot.

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Speaker 3: the going rate, if you will some construction of that,

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Speaker 3: the Jimmy Johnson chart whatever the two two's look. The

438
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Speaker 3: Texans went six and ten in two thousand and six,

439
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Speaker 3: David Carr's last year. Kubiaks First, they had to do

440
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Speaker 3: something and it was either that or you go with

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Speaker 3: Rosenfels as your starter, because there was really nobody else

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Speaker 3: in the market at the time that you could get.

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Speaker 1: So Shab was.

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Speaker 3: Basically twice in their history. They go out and get

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Speaker 3: the number one quarterback on the market. Shab was on

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Speaker 3: the market, not a free agent, so he had to

447
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Speaker 3: trade for him. In twenty sixteen, they go for Brock.

448
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Speaker 3: He was the number one quarterback on the market because Romo,

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Speaker 3: had he been available, was going.

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Speaker 1: To be the number one quarterback in the market.

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Speaker 3: And as far as the Durant thing goes, that's the

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Speaker 3: only equivalent I could possibly find in Texans history. Had

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Speaker 3: they been able to go get Tony Romo in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 3: That would have been because that was a division winner.

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Speaker 3: And I know the Rockets were the two seed in

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Speaker 3: the West, which is even more impressive, but it was

457
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Speaker 3: a winning team going to get Tony Romo. That would

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Speaker 3: have been like the Durant equivalent in my eyes. I

459
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Speaker 3: know Durant's a champion and whatever, but you know, come on,

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Speaker 3: I seek, come on, because he was with Golden State.

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Speaker 3: I mean he went to a really good team. He

462
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Speaker 3: went to a championship team and won a championship right

463
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Speaker 3: right now, he comes to the two seed, so a

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Speaker 3: winning team. Good, He's on a good team. Good and

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Speaker 3: they didn't have to gut the team, you know. Related

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Speaker 3: to that deal, I was happy. But with the Texans

467
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Speaker 3: when they got shop at the time, Johnny I was

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Speaker 3: very happy with the deal and two to zero out

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Speaker 3: of the gate No. Seven, extremely happy with the deal.

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Speaker 3: But then amm Green gets hurt because he was part

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Speaker 3: of that offseason. Andre got hurt for a lot. Andre

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Speaker 3: got hurt. He was out seven games or something. It

473
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Speaker 3: was with an MCL It was rough. Ultimately, you finished

474
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Speaker 3: five hundred for the first time in two thousand and seven.

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Speaker 3: But Rosenfels has to finish the season. Our buddy Andre Davis,

476
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Speaker 3: who's in player development now for the Texans, returns two

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Speaker 3: kickoffs for a touchdown in the season finale in order

478
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Speaker 3: to get you to five hundred for the first time ever.

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Speaker 3: Shob is not able to stay fully healthy until two

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Speaker 3: years later, but he finished the eight season with four

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Speaker 3: consecutive no he won uh yeah, three to one down

482
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Speaker 3: the stretch because they lost the Oakland game to DeMarcus

483
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Speaker 3: JaMarcus russell Out.

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Speaker 1: That hurt. But anyway, I was happy with the shop

485
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Speaker 1: deal at the time, okay, and I.

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Speaker 3: Still am yep. Had they not made that deal, I

487
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Speaker 3: don't know what they're doing in seven. Flacco's available in

488
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Speaker 3: eight in the draft, they might have been able to

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Speaker 3: get Flacco. Would he work in a Kubiak offense? I

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Speaker 3: think soul because he worked at KI.

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Speaker 2: I think it were taken a little bit, but I

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Speaker 2: think he would have worked at that point.

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Speaker 3: But with Kubiak in twenty fourteen, the Ravens have their

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Speaker 3: best offensive season at the time.

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Speaker 2: That's right, And there's more coming up, including the trade

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Speaker 2: for a quarterback that resulted in the trade of a

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Speaker 2: quarterback that led to the trade after a quarterback, I'll

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Speaker 2: explain it all next. And the Astros and Rockets have

499
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Speaker 2: had some trades in addition to this Kevin Durant trade.

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Speaker 1: Boy, the Rockets have had a few.

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Speaker 2: But the ones from the Astros, the three that hit

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Speaker 2: for me, man, those are some good ones.

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Speaker 1: We hit all the next right here in Texans All Access.

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Speaker 1: What's uping everybody?

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Speaker 2: Welcome back this Monday the issue of Texans All Access.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you being here with me. John Harris, football analyst,

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Speaker 2: sideline reporter for your Houston Texans, also calling those TV

508
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Speaker 2: preseason games. Can't wait to get back up to booth

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Speaker 2: with my man and d klu and Kevin Coogler alongside

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Speaker 2: Shelby Coppage down on the sideline.

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Speaker 1: Now, Mark and I have been going through.

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Speaker 2: The Texans trades that and there have been plenty of

513
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Speaker 2: them that have stood out over the years. And we're

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Speaker 2: gonna get to some of the Astros and Rockets. But

515
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Speaker 2: first we had to hit on the one that happened

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Speaker 2: on Draft Night twenty seventeen, and that draft Texas were

517
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Speaker 2: sitting at twenty five. They needed to get up into

518
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Speaker 2: the top twelveth to go get a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: They didn't.

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Speaker 2: They weren't gonna get one, and God only knows what

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Speaker 2: they were gonna do, but they got one. And it

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Speaker 2: was a trade that on the surface wasn't really costly.

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Speaker 2: When that player then wanted to leave, it became costly

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Speaker 2: for the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 1: The Deshaun trade in twenty seventeen rocked the foundation. We

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Speaker 1: discussed it here now.

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Speaker 2: The next trade twenty seventeen, trading for Deshaun Watson in

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Speaker 2: the draft and basically you traded away your twenty eighteen

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Speaker 2: first rounder to move up thirteen spots.

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Speaker 1: To take DeShawn. I loved the deal. I remember that.

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Speaker 1: I was very happy with it. I'm shock about it.

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Speaker 2: You walk back up on stage, I'm like, we just

533
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 2: traded up, and you looked at me and went, oh Shawn.

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Speaker 3: I was like, Sean, it's gonna be this, my boy,

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Speaker 3: and time. What was also notable was that they went

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Speaker 3: all in on Brock the year before. It did not work.

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Speaker 3: But they win nine and they go nine and seven,

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Speaker 3: they win a playoff game, great, but it's not going

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Speaker 3: to work with Brock. They were able to bail out

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Speaker 3: a Brock after one year, which seemed unfathomabout.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy.

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Speaker 3: And then right away Rick Smith steps up and says,

543
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Speaker 3: let's go get another quarterback right here and get Watson.

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Speaker 3: That was highly aggressive, mister McNair was.

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Speaker 1: He knew it. Gotta go get the quarterback. So all right,

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Speaker 1: you tried with Brock.

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Speaker 3: It didn't work. Number one guy in the market, but

548
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Speaker 3: it didn't work. Let's go get Watson and it worked

549
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Speaker 3: for a while. It worked really well for a while.

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Speaker 3: Somebody was running a highlight reel of all the best

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Speaker 3: plays in Texans history, and you know, the Watson era

552
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 3: came up, and people forget how great he was here

553
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Speaker 3: and last year whatever I was looking at in Cleveland

554
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Speaker 3: was not the same guy.

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Speaker 1: So clearly things have changed for him. But for a

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Speaker 1: time here it was really special. It really was special.

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Speaker 1: So okay, things in twenty twenty one go south.

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Speaker 2: Then you have the next two trades that have set

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Speaker 2: the Texans on their course where they are now.

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Speaker 1: It's not the only thing.

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Speaker 2: But of these two trades, which one you think had

562
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Speaker 2: the bigger impact may maybe we already know what it is.

563
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 2: Deshaun gets traded out of Houston, get three first round

564
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 2: picks and multiple others that turn into Will Anderson Junior,

565
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 2: tanked Dell Damian Pearce et cetera.

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Speaker 1: Or the will Anderson trade.

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Speaker 2: That included and people forget this, it included Kaylen Bullock,

568
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 2: will Anderson Junior and Kaylen Bullock for what turned into

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Speaker 2: the Cardinals Paris Johnson, Garrett Williams, Darius Robinson, which was

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Speaker 2: twelve thirty four next year's first in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Which one Is it just the volume of the Watson

572
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Speaker 2: picks that makes it the most significant of the two,

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Speaker 2: or what do you think?

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Speaker 1: I want to say they're both related?

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Speaker 3: Obviously, Yeah, like you said, the Watson deal was a

576
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 3: great trade by Nickosario. They went through a lot of

577
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Speaker 3: pain holding him on the fifty three man roster through

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Just excruciating.

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Speaker 2: Oh this day about that, the days we would walk

581
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Speaker 2: in and see him wearing Balenciaga as the teen's practicing.

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Speaker 1: He's just trapesing in you know, wharing is.

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Speaker 3: He did not look up once when he was in

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Speaker 3: the building. You'd see him walk through the hall just

585
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 3: looking at his phone, and it was awkward for everybody. Okay,

586
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 3: it was awkward for everybody that year, but the Texans

587
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 3: suffered through it got.

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Speaker 1: A big hall. Yep.

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Speaker 3: So Nick orchestrated that beautifully. In many that really is

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Speaker 3: the greatest trade this franchise made. But it had to

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Speaker 3: be good. There was a minimal level of acceptance. You

592
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 3: had to get three ones, and he stuck to it

593
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Speaker 3: and got him. I think that Will Anderson deals the one, though, Johnny,

594
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 3: because the excitement level. Yeah, the way it happened right

595
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 3: after picking j Stroud, the fact that Will instantly turns

596
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 3: into defensive rookie of the year, that follows that up

597
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 3: with a double digit SAX season, and who knows where

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Speaker 3: he goes from here in year three and beyond. There's

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00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 3: just something about that move where, all right, we're not

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Speaker 3: just gonna develop a quarterback and get better. We are

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Speaker 3: going to accelerate the growth of the franchise. We're gonna

602
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 3: throw gasoline on that fire. We're gonna take the lighter

603
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 3: fluid on the hibachi, just spray it by moving up

604
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 3: and getting Will Anderson Junior and Bam win the division,

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00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 3: make the playoffs, win a playoff game, and be tied

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00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 3: with Baltimore in the divisional round at the break, My goodness,

607
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 3: after the year before, you were flamed, I mean you

608
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 3: were flaming out at three wins and one of them

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00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 3: with Davis Mills on fourth and forever, are you serious?

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Speaker 3: And the year before you were that, I didn't even

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00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 3: want the year before you were that, And now you're

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Speaker 3: ten ten at Baltimore at that half, and I know

613
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 3: the second half did not go according to plan, but

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00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 3: that's an incredible turnaround of events. And Will Anderson that

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Speaker 3: trade is a big part of it.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: I wrote down some Rockets trades, and I actually wrote

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Speaker 2: down a transaction that might have been as important as

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Speaker 2: any of them over the years.

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Speaker 1: It flies under the radar, get to you a little bit.

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Speaker 2: So October twenty twelve, Texas are having a good start

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Speaker 2: to the season and then all of a sudden, Drril

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Speaker 2: Mory says.

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Speaker 1: All right, take a second examine this trade.

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00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 2: The Rockets sent Kevin Martin, Jeremy Lamb and draft considerations

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Speaker 2: to the Oklahoma City Thunder for Cole aldrich Day, Kwon Cook,

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Speaker 2: Lazarre Hayward and James Harden.

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Speaker 3: Huge deal, obviously the greatest till now. But I think

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Speaker 3: even I don't know where this ends up. Obviously nobody knows, right,

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Speaker 3: But that's can I call it the greatest trade?

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Speaker 1: I don't know? I don't have all the rockets trades.

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00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 3: In front of me, but that was incredible when he

633
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 3: brought this thing from and look, Kevin Martin, I liked

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Speaker 3: him and everything he wants, you know, spent some time

635
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Speaker 3: with my kid on a birthday party.

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Speaker 2: But essentially you've got James Harden for really nothing. I'm

637
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Speaker 2: gaming opportunity. I mean, look, we turned into I want.

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Speaker 3: To talk about accelerating the growth of a franchise if

639
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 3: it were for Golden State whatever. But they go to

640
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Speaker 3: the Western Conference Finals what twice with James Harden.

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Speaker 1: That was a huge trait.

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Speaker 3: I know a lot how a lot of people feel

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Speaker 3: about Harden right now, but right gosh, those who are

644
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 3: some really special nights.

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Speaker 1: You had a Toyota Centers. You were at Conference finals night,

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Speaker 1: I mean hard was m v P.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I love I didn't love his style

648
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 2: of play, but it revolved around Harden here in Houston

649
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Speaker 2: for a years.

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Speaker 1: What has Moriy done since then?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that that has been as impressive it which is

652
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Speaker 3: difficult to be as impressive as that. He built this

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Speaker 3: thing into a contender out of thin air. It seemed

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Speaker 3: so give him a ton of credit.

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Speaker 1: They got out of them a Grady Yao era beautifully

656
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Speaker 1: into that.

657
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 3: And it took you know, it wasn't right away, but

658
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 3: they got into that. It got just really impressive.

659
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: So then obviously there's Kevin Duranteal we talked about. But

660
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 2: in two thousand and four the Rockets traded Steve Francis,

661
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: Katino Mobley, Kelvin Cato, three high priced guys had produced

662
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 2: a ton for Juwan Howard Tyrone, lou Reese Gaines, and

663
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Speaker 2: Tracy McGrady.

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Speaker 1: I forgot those guys were part of that.

665
00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Reese Gaines and t mac for Stevie franchise,

666
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: kat Mobley and Kelvin Cato.

667
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Speaker 3: You can't imagine how big it was to get that

668
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 3: was massive to get McGrady. They had a press conference

669
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Speaker 3: on the floor of Toyota Center. It was huge, huge,

670
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 3: and McGrady that was a bigger acquisition than Harden on

671
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 3: the day off of the day, I mean, McGrady was

672
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 3: already scoring champ right, and he shows up here and

673
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 3: you got McGrady and yow, this is gonna be humongous yet.

674
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Speaker 3: And what was a recent podcast or something I was

675
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 3: reading something where McGrady said, if he was teamed up

676
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 3: with Shaq. They would have won multiple titles, just like

677
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 3: Kobe and Shack did. I'm thinking you had yow. Yeah,

678
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 3: you had a two zero lead on Dallas coming home.

679
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 3: And I love McGrady. I do McGrady regular season McGrady.

680
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, so entertaining, incredible. But yeah, that was

681
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 3: an amazing deal. But it didn't work. They didn't get

682
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 3: out of the first round until but Grady actually got

683
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: hurt that at our test and they finally got the

684
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Speaker 3: first round and oh nine, that's right.

685
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Speaker 2: So then James Harden gets dealt out of Houston, and

686
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 2: to me, this is the Deshaun Watson deal for them.

687
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: They got three players back.

688
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 2: They got Victor Oladipo, Dante Exum, and Rodeons Curriics. Okay,

689
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 2: I don't know who any of those. I mean, I

690
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 2: know who three are. Well, I don't know the last two.

691
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 2: But they also got three unprotected first round picks, four

692
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 2: first round pick swaps. Then they turned around and dealt

693
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 2: the picks back to Brooklyn for the rights to swap

694
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: picks with Phoenix in twenty five, the Sun's twenty twenty

695
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 2: seven first round pick, and the right to the more

696
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: favorable of Dallas Phoenix Houston round first round picks in

697
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: twenty twenty nine, so that's probably gonna be Phoenix. So

698
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 2: I think those two deals in combination where Raphael Stones says, Okay,

699
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 2: James Harden's got to get out of here. We're gonna

700
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 2: go through it. We're gonna go through We're gonna have

701
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: some tough years. We don't have our we don't have

702
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 2: our guys impressive, and those were some tough years. But

703
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 2: they pile up the assets in that trade, and you know,

704
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: drafted Jalen Green, they drafted Jabari Smith, Shingoon, they draft,

705
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: they draft Taris. You really got a good job drafting,

706
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 2: draft reed Shepherd last year when they got the lottery

707
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 2: pick and moved up, so they they've done a good

708
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: job draft. But that that moving James disgruntled wants out. Okay, guys, disgruntled,

709
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 2: how much are you really.

710
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 1: Going to get back into trade?

711
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 3: You got back a boatload and you rebuilt a franchise.

712
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 3: You built a never mind durrant. You got a two

713
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 3: seed last year. I know you flamed out the playoffs,

714
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 3: but you got a two seed. You rebuilt a franchise,

715
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 3: You won a lot of games, You got a great coach,

716
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 3: and it's a completely different regime than the Moury era

717
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 3: doing this, the Mory cd era before Maury doing this.

718
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 3: That's impressive. How many franchises can really pull that off?

719
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 3: Not too many. Now Oklahoma City's over there saying, hey,

720
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 3: what was it two three years ago? We won twenty

721
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 3: something games, and now we won the championship. But easier

722
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 3: said than done.

723
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: Very much.

724
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 2: So now the deal the Rockets made in nineteen ninety

725
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 2: four is won a lot of people forget the Rockets

726
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 2: traded Robert Orri and Matt Bullard to the Pistons for

727
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 2: Shawn Elliott. Yeah, but the trade was denied because the

728
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: Houston doctors discovered a kidney condition of Shawn Elliott. So

729
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: the trade is wiped out. Robert Ory and Matt Bowley

730
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 2: go back to the Rockets. Or is incredible for the

731
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 2: next couple of years as part of two championship teams.

732
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 2: Big Shot Bob kind of gets it together after he

733
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: is threatening to be traded out all the right way,

734
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 2: saying Owler ends.

735
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: Up doing an hour of radio a week with me.

736
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 1: That's six exactly right.

737
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 2: And if he goes to Detroit, he's probably doing it

738
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 2: on the ticket in ninety seven to one.

739
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: So that was a deal that didn't that didn't take all.

740
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 2: Right, here are three Astros trades I came up with

741
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 2: that I found that I remembered. I think this was

742
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty nine because see I was going to my

743
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 2: senior year high school, and I remember the Astros had

744
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 2: a picture by the name of Larry Anderson.

745
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 1: Right, he ends up Boston Red Sox needs a starter.

746
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 2: They're in the They're in the They're in the mix for.

747
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: The ale Pennaest one.

748
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 3: There's no other Astros trade that can rival this, Right, well,

749
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 3: I got two others you might want to listen to.

750
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: So we finished this one.

751
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 2: Harry Anderson gets traded to the Boston Red Sox for

752
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 2: some third base playing minor leaguer and named Jeff Bagwell

753
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 2: and everybody, I mean within five you know, Bagwell's in

754
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 2: the MVP conversation in ninety four, I think I think

755
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 2: it was four or five years after that deal. It's like,

756
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 2: uh yeah, I think Larry Anderson was on baseball at

757
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 2: that time. This one goes right near the very top.

758
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 2: But there are two others that are under consideration. One

759
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 2: that it's very very similar that happened in twenty sixteen.

760
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 2: August of twenty sixteen, Now the Dodgers need a relief pitcher,

761
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 2: and they call the Astros and say we want Josh

762
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: Fields and just call back and say, well, give us

763
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 2: Jordon Alvarez. Jordon Alvarez gets traded for Josh Fields.

764
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: Okay, so I know championship.

765
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: We're talking about championship here with Alvarez, right, if the

766
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,479
Speaker 3: if his career ends today, is he going to Cooper's town?

767
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: No?

768
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 3: No, no, give I mean bagwell, longevity, longevity. Postseason really

769
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 3: wasn't his thing, and they went a few times, but

770
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 3: Alvarez postseason, I mean, come on, yeah, it was Barry

771
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 3: Bond's like, like, what are you doing pitching to him?

772
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: Are you crazy? Exactly? Boom, That's what we got to

773
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 1: Jordan Alvas.

774
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 2: I think if Jordon strings together another five to seven years,

775
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: maybe they're in a mix for championship and one another one.

776
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna look at both of those similarly.

777
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: The third one I don't think is as it's as important,

778
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 2: but not like the others. August thirty first, twenty seventeen,

779
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 2: the Astros deal for Justin Verlin. The Tigers received I'll

780
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: tell me. If you've heard of any of these guys, Franklin, Perez,

781
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: Daz Cameron and Jake Rogers.

782
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 3: Okay, that's a monumental deal as well. You could argue

783
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 3: they don't win it without them, obviously, right, And I

784
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 3: even think that in twenty twenty two you could argue

785
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 3: the same thing.

786
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: Because they were kind of.

787
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 3: You know, it was they were gonna make the postseason,

788
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 3: but were they going to be them?

789
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: Were they going to have that edge?

790
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 3: What he met in the clubhouse, all of that for

791
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 3: that staff, his mere presence, Johnny. Yes, baseball's big with

792
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff.

793
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 2: That's why you look at some of these trades and

794
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 2: you're like, man, yes you get the player, but you

795
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 2: get the leader, the captain, the face of the franchise,

796
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: if you will. Those Astros trades, and they are probably

797
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 2: something that I've missed. I mean, it shows you that

798
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 2: the trades are all different in a sense that you know,

799
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 2: NFL trades, you know a lot of draft picks are involved,

800
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: and those can turn into other things. You don't really

801
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 2: you're not gonna do a bunch of draft picks in baseball,

802
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 2: you know, basketball, you might have some pick swaps and

803
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 2: some kind of crazy things that come out of the

804
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 2: NBA CBA with those trades. But when you look at

805
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: the the trades that kind of that brought something to

806
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: the Rockets in some way, shape or form, Like that

807
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 2: big Harden deal. It's like four guys from the Thunder

808
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 2: including Harden. It was like three or four guys from

809
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 2: the Rockets going the other direction, and none of them

810
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 2: were any good except for the.

811
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: Guy that turned into be the MVP and James Harden.

812
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 2: These it's amazing to look at how the franchisees in

813
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 2: the city have used trades in some respect to I mean,

814
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 2: what the Astros. Deb Bagwell comes here and he ends

815
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 2: up kind of setting off that era they traded for

816
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 2: Larry Anderson.

817
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: I mean at that point a guy that was. They

818
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: still talk about that in Boston, but I mean really

819
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: because Bagwell's in New Englander. Yeah, that's true.

820
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 3: What's the first trade in Texans history? Do you remember

821
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 3: this one? The first trade in Texans systems? A Heisman

822
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 3: Trophy winner quarterback Danny wirfol really, yeah, goes to Washington.

823
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: Oh wanted him. A Spurrier wanted him. Spurrier wanted him.

824
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he was That was the first trade.

825
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: That was the first trade. Wow? About what year was

826
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: that two? Two?

827
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: Oh?

828
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,720
Speaker 3: Yea, yeah, because I remember worfol was part of the

829
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 3: Washington I'm doing.

830
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: I'm thinking Worful ninety six. That's why I was thinking.

831
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, the first trade was Danny Wirfole to Washington.

832
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, what did we get back? And when we get

833
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: in return?

834
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 3: Jerry DeLoach played on the old line. Yeah, you know

835
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 3: it was not a well regarded old line. Right, you're

836
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 3: one for Chester other than you, yeah, and Jimmy Herndon

837
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 3: other than you.

838
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: Am I missing anybody?

839
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 3: Sorry? Sorry guys, oh mckennie, of course. Yeah, it worked

840
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 3: out for everybody. Danny worfl wanted to be back, and

841
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 3: you guys can always say you beat Dallas. You know,

842
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 3: it's funny those guys they won four games, they beat

843
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 3: two playoff teams that year, but they beat Dallas opening night,

844
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 3: and that is the one.

845
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:07,479
Speaker 1: You know, it's creaz.

846
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 2: It's we're almost twenty three years, twenty three years to

847
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 2: the date of that game. Mark I know, it feels

848
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: like it was just yesterday in some sense, twenty three.

849
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 3: Years marking on the twenty fourth season in franchise history.

850
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: How about that, Well just started, you warmed. You know,

851
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: only twelve of them count. So the ones with you

852
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: I got exactly those are the ones that count. All right,

853
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: we get back.

854
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 2: We'll go around the NFL with all the news you

855
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 2: need to know. Apparently the Jaguars signed two players this

856
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 2: weekend with the same name or is the same guy

857
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 2: with two different positions. Well, it confused Jaguars fans. We'll

858
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: get into that next. On Texans All Access. We go

859
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Speaker 2: on final segments Monday editsue of Texans All Access from.

860
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Speaker 1: The Hundai Texans radio studio. I'm your host, John.

861
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 2: Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter for your Houston Texans. Let's

862
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: go round the NFL and the first story is a

863
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: teased earlier. Travis Hunter signed his contract with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Now,

864
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 2: apparently when this news was reported, the Jaguars put a

865
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 2: two different tweets posts whatever you wanna call it, one

866
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 2: saying they signed wide receiver Travis Hunter, one saying this

867
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: signed cornerback Travis Hunter. People didn't see both. They just

868
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 2: wanted freaked out. But contract is all signed. He is

869
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: all good to go. He is the thirtieth of the

870
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 2: first round picks to sign Schmar Stewart and the Bengals.

871
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 2: That could be a while if at all, he might

872
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 2: just go to the draft next year. Jday Baron has

873
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 2: still not signed his deal with the Denver Broncos. So

874
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 2: Hunter gets thirty point six million dollars in a signing bonus,

875
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 2: got it all up front, and he will be ready

876
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: to go for training camp.

877
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: I'm glad we get to see him twice.

878
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 2: It's gonna be interesting to see him play against what

879
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: the Texans actually have. All right, there's been a lot

880
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: of soccer talk lately because there's a ton of soccer

881
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 2: going on this summer. You've got fiefa World Cup, Club

882
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: World Cup, You've got Gold Cup going on July sixth,

883
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 2: the final here at Energy Stadium, and now you've got

884
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 2: the Jets getting involved. New York Jets owner Woody Johnson

885
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 2: will finally get his hands on an English soccer team.

886
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: Premier League side Crystal Palace announced on Monday that Woody

887
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 2: Johnson has signed a quote unquote legally binding contract to

888
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: buy the shares of fellow American John Texter, who has

889
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 2: a forty three percent stake in a London club that

890
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 2: puts the price taget somewhere between two under and twenty

891
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 2: two undred and sixty million that Johnson is putting down

892
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 2: for Premier League, Crystal Palace sale of Texter Shares. Boost

893
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 2: Palace soap playing in the Europa League next season, qualified

894
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 2: thanks to its FA Cup final victory over my crew

895
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:08,919
Speaker 2: Man City last month. So whatdye Johnson now forty three

896
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 2: percent owner of Crystal Palace.

897
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: We'll see what else he is able to.

898
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 2: Do down the road to maybe take over Crystal Palace

899
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: and good luck to them. Anthony Richardson expected to be

900
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 2: ready for training camp in July after going down and

901
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 2: seeing doctors getting evaluations. Richardson did interview with twenty four

902
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 2: to seven sports Zach Goodall on Sunday and he said,

903
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 2: in that quote, I'm all good. Not really even a

904
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 2: bump in the road. I felt like I tripped, I fell,

905
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 2: just got back up and hit the ground running again.

906
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: Okay.

907
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 2: I guess he's trying to downplay it a little bit,

908
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 2: and I get it, but they're holding.

909
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: Him out of practices.

910
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 2: There was something there, especially when Shane's tykeens standing up

911
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 2: there going yeah, it's not great, but it does look

912
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 2: like Richardson will be ready for a training camp.

913
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: Now.

914
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 2: I don't think a week or two I would imagine

915
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 2: in OTA's mini camp enough for Daniel Jones to take

916
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 2: the job completely away from Anthony Richardson. But if this

917
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: thing continues to be an issue, because it has continued

918
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 2: to be an issue, then Daniel Jones will end up

919
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: having that job down the road. But as of now,

920
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson is back with the Colts, or we'll be

921
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: back for training camp. Russell Wilson over the weekend, I

922
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 2: think this was that fanatics fest that sounded like a

923
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: pretty cool event. By the way, Yeah, it was a

924
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 2: fanatics fest. He was asked during an interview, I came

925
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 2: here because of him.

926
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: Who is him? Malik Neighbors.

927
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 2: Last year, Neighbors twelve hundred yards stud receiver. We saw

928
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 2: in the preseason game. He made a couple of beautiful

929
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 2: catches in that game. Now he's got Russell Wilson throwing

930
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: the ball. Wilson said, and I quote, I came here

931
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: because of him. I really wanted to play with someone

932
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 2: who is special like him. I'm assuming that's gotta be

933
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 2: music to the years of Malik Neighbors. If I'm so special, bro,

934
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,479
Speaker 2: why aren't you throw me the ball on third and nine? Well,

935
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 2: that's because teams are gonna take him away and force

936
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 2: Wilson to go somewhere else. But find interesting that Russell Wilson,

937
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: and look, you go to New York or to a

938
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 2: New York team for a number of reasons. I can

939
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 2: imagine Leak Neighbors would definitely ben one of those guys

940
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 2: if I get to throw to him. Yeah, he's gonna

941
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: make me look good. Hell yeah, he's gonna make me

942
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 2: look good. So you've got Russell Wilson moving to the

943
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 2: Giants or going to the Giants to play with Malik Neighbors.

944
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: He's very, very excited about that.

945
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 2: Jane Daniels was also at Fanatics Fest and he was

946
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 2: asked about having Deebo Samuel Jay Daniels said, I'm excited

947
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 2: to throw him Deebo a little screen hopefully on the

948
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 2: statue it says a touchdown for eighty yards and I

949
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 2: didn't have to do any of the work. Yeah, that's

950
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 2: what everybody wants from Debo. But we'll see if Debo

951
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 2: is gonna be at his max level or if they

952
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: just starting to catch up with him a little bit.

953
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 2: That I think is what the forty ninnders thought. And

954
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 2: he's a little fatter, he's not in shape as much.

955
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 2: We don't think he's quite the player he was, so

956
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: we'll see. It's been a while since he's had a

957
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 2: great season, going all the way back to twenty twenty one.

958
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 2: But in Washington we got Cliff Kingsbury and now you

959
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 2: got Jay Daniels and a much other weapons. We'll see,

960
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 2: especially if Terry McLaurin is not ready to roll, boy,

961
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 2: it could get very very interesting there in the nation's capital.

962
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 2: Big thanks to you guys for listening tonight. Oh my

963
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 2: guys back at six' ten To, mark to all the

964
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 2: great gms in this town that have made some incredible

965
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 2: trades we just talked about. Tonight thank you very. Much

966
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 2: we love you all so. Much we'll see tomorrow and as,

967
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 2: always Go.

968
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Speaker 1: Texans