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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive by the Dale LOLLI.

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Speaker 3: He is Matt Williamson and we are live at the Steelers'

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Speaker 3: final training camp practice. There are of twenty twenty three. Matt,

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Speaker 3: we made it.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're here.

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Speaker 3: We got to do three more hours. We haven't made

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Speaker 3: it yet. Come on, we haven't gotten through this yet.

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Speaker 1: That's true. We'll do that at the end. But it

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Speaker 1: has been quite the ride. It's been a blast, and

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Speaker 1: thanks everybody for listening. It's been a really enjoyable experience,

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Speaker 1: for sure. It has.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've had a lot of fun. We've had a

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Speaker 3: lot of reps. We have had a lot of reps

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Speaker 3: right talking to each other about what's going on in

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Speaker 3: the field right now. What's going on in the field

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Speaker 3: here at the Steelers training camp practice is some field

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Speaker 3: goal work here and Chris Boswell out there he's going

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Speaker 3: to kick this week and I Pressley harvem will do

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Speaker 3: the couple do the punting after the other guys did

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Speaker 3: so last week.

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Speaker 1: That was cool to give them that shot though. They've

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Speaker 1: put some stuff on tape last week for those guys

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Speaker 1: that really.

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Speaker 3: Don't really have a chance, and that pay dividends like

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Speaker 3: next year when you're looking at you might want to

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Speaker 3: you know, anytime you want to bring in a campleg

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Speaker 3: and you want to bring in camp legs so you

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Speaker 3: don't have your main guys kicking every time.

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Speaker 1: Agents are more likely.

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Speaker 3: Agents are more likely to say, hey, yeah, go to

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Speaker 3: the Steelers. They'll give you a legitimate shot to put

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Speaker 3: something out. You may not make the team, but you'll

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Speaker 3: get an opportunity to show yourself.

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Speaker 1: Put something on tape for the rest of the league,

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Speaker 1: and then you're on the radar, you know, So that

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Speaker 1: does go a long way. People don't think about that

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Speaker 1: that aspect of it, but it is still a human

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Speaker 1: business and agents understand those things. And if you treat

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Speaker 1: their client wrong or someone else's client wrong and just

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Speaker 1: use them up and don't give them any opportunity to

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Speaker 1: show themselves, well, they're unlikely to send another guy your way. Yeah. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: The other interesting thing coming from Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 3: Today about that part of the football the specialist year,

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Speaker 3: as we watch some special teams, he said he's really

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Speaker 3: intrigued to watch Calvin Austin and Anthony McFarland returning, McFarland

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Speaker 3: returning kicks, Austin returning punts in this week. The fact

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Speaker 3: that they're looking at McFarland as a kick returner.

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Speaker 1: I think that's great news.

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Speaker 2: It's good news for him for sure.

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Speaker 1: For sure. I mean that's the biggest thing that kept

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Speaker 1: him off the act or the game day, be able

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Speaker 1: to do something. You got to do something on special teams,

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Speaker 1: because boy, they are repping both those guys heavy here,

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Speaker 1: you know, with the offense, and I think they want

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Speaker 1: them to be active, They want them to be part

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Speaker 1: of the offense. And we've said this one hundred billion times.

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Speaker 1: The offense is looking for more explosive ways of moving

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Speaker 1: the football and those two are the most explosive players

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Speaker 1: on this team at their respective positions, you know. So

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Speaker 1: if you can get him out there, that's great. Frankly,

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Speaker 1: kickoff returns mean less than they ever have in our lifetime,

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Speaker 1: So but you have he'll still return it here and there, right,

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Speaker 1: maybe one per game or something.

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Speaker 3: And then in the Northeast as well, you know where

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Speaker 3: the Steelers play football at. As the season goes on,

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Speaker 3: you'll see more returns because teams won't be able to

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Speaker 3: well travels far. You'll get. Now, this is the first

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Speaker 3: team offenses out there. What they're doing today is more

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Speaker 3: show team like stuff. So they've got the show.

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Speaker 1: Well. Some of the.

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Speaker 3: Defense out there is like the show defense, right, and

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Speaker 3: there's some first guy, the first team guys out there,

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Speaker 3: like the cams out They're not trying to break up

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Speaker 3: passes or anything like that. You're this is all about

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Speaker 3: the defense will.

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Speaker 2: Do the same.

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Speaker 3: You'll see, you know, the third team offense or defense

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Speaker 2: Right now, they're repping. They got ones on ones out here.

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Speaker 1: Maybe with ones on ones, but it's I mean, the

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Speaker 1: whole crowd just cheered because they completed the deep ball

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Speaker 1: down the sidelines. But the corner let up didn't. You know,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't even like put a hand up or accelerate.

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Speaker 2: You know, they're just playing to play. These are things.

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Speaker 3: These are plays that the Steelers will run in Saturday's

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Speaker 1: Presumably. Yeah. I mean the way you described I thought

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Speaker 1: In terms of prepping for an opponent. These are the

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Speaker 1: plays the defense is out there with a card, you know,

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Speaker 1: like they're they're basically running scout team, no matter who

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Speaker 1: they are. I mean, but they're you know that there's

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Speaker 1: And so it's not a normal practice. It's kind of

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Speaker 1: a bonus one. But I do think it's noteworthy defense

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Speaker 1: showed up big in seven shots. Yeah yeah, so then

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Speaker 1: that was that was live that way. You know, in

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Speaker 3: They're not in pads today, so you weren't going to

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Speaker 3: see any running. I think if you're a defensive player, okay,

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Speaker 3: you're not going to run the football here.

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Speaker 1: So and Trubisky ran one in the scrambled may or

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Speaker 1: may not have been legit in the real world, you know,

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Speaker 1: Probably gets the two yards.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean it's from the intensity level of

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Speaker 3: the practices that we've seen over the last couple of

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Speaker 3: weeks here, excuse me, Wow, this would be very low

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Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, but by design, it's not like they're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one thing, you know.

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Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin said today, said, look, we did one day

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Speaker 1: We played the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

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Speaker 3: I assume that was for the walk the walkthrough today,

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Speaker 3: this is like an actual in season practice.

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Speaker 1: Do you have hiccups on the air? I do. That's

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Speaker 1: been like my biggest fear of all time. I don't

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Speaker 1: think I've ever had to deal with it. It's I mean,

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Speaker 1: what you what's one like us? Do? I mean, I

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Speaker 1: need tweets? You know, how how do we save them?

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna fight. I'm gonna scare you, fight through it.

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Speaker 1: You got a battle. It's like going playing with a

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Speaker 1: bad ankle. That's been a deep fear of mind. What

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Speaker 3: You know that there's a difference between being hurt and

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Speaker 3: being injuredact exactly right now, I'm just hurting a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I'm not injured, and it'll pass. It will pass eventually.

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Speaker 3: I'll keep talking here and I'll just forget about it.

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Speaker 1: Any hiccup cure is appreciated. I think they're already passed.

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Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think I'm good. Mind over matter.

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Speaker 2: There you go, there you go, you don't mind, it

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Speaker 2: don't matter.

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Speaker 1: You did tremendous work. I don't know if I could

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Speaker 3: I just got it. Well, you know that's the way

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Speaker 3: it goes. But you fight through this stuff as much

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Speaker 3: like you. You know, guys are fighting through one. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: guys are fighting through some stuff here. So Mike tom

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Speaker 3: was saying, Larry Ogan Joby will not play, Uh, Nate

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Speaker 3: Herbig will not play?

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Speaker 2: And Trey Norworth.

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Speaker 1: Does Oak and job Be big picture worry you a

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Speaker 1: little bit durability wise?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: He was like, since he's been a Steeler, I don't

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Speaker 1: know we've ever seen his best. You're enough enough games

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Speaker 3: We haven't And I asked, I actually asked Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 3: owners meetings this spring, you know, I asked her, I said,

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Speaker 3: we get to see the best of Larry Larry Ogunjobi

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Speaker 3: last season. He goes absolutely not. Yeah, we didn't get

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Speaker 3: to get to see that. But I think I think

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Speaker 3: they feel like this is more precautionary than anything. They're

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Speaker 3: they're just taking it easy on him.

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Speaker 1: If it was Week two, he'd play, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: And he played through all that stuff last year. Right

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Speaker 2: right now, you want him.

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Speaker 3: I think that's what they're trying to do here, is

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Speaker 3: get manage him through the preseason.

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Speaker 1: There's just a lot of managing last year. There's been

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Speaker 1: a lot of managing since he's been a Steeler, is

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Speaker 1: my point. And I don't know if one is related

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Speaker 1: bad luck or what. But there's a lot of potential

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Speaker 1: there and i'd like to unlock it. But I mean

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Speaker 1: that happens. Every team around the league has players like that,

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Speaker 1: they're better prepared this year for that. Like if he

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Speaker 1: be perfectly fine. Like last year, they were again managing

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they have to do that this year.

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Speaker 1: Plus they know the player better. They signed him late

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Speaker 1: in the process last year, you know, so, I mean

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Speaker 1: he's been around the block. You wanted to bring him back.

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Speaker 1: He liked you, you liked him, and frankly, you know,

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Speaker 1: Lee Al's more equipped to step up. Louder Milkshure looks

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Speaker 1: like he's more equipped, who has had trouble even be

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Speaker 1: an active last year, and Benton and plus than the

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Speaker 1: other the older nose guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they I mean they've that defensive line is.

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Speaker 1: Really deep, really deep, really deep. I mean Cam stands

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Speaker 1: alone obviously, but you could lose any of the others

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Speaker 3: Be as deep of a line that they've had since

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Speaker 3: the you know, you had Aaron Smith, Casey Hampton and

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Speaker 1: I hope it's a backup too. And that was five

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Speaker 1: quality guys. Yeah, that could all start a lot of games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and did and did end up starting a lot

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Speaker 3: of games. I think this group maybe lacks some of

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Speaker 3: the well, I mean, Cam's a star.

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Speaker 1: I'm a star, right, you know, but I mean I'll

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Speaker 1: take Cam over any of those guys, and Tampton and

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Speaker 1: Smith were amazing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, I think this one, you know,

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Speaker 3: you're looking at six or seven easily deep, and again

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Speaker 3: you're gonna end up cutting guys or we're not having

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Speaker 3: room for guys who are who are NFL players.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and their ages are a little staggered too, you know,

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Speaker 1: you got to second And obviously there's a leader in

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Speaker 1: that room like few other leaders. So yeah, it's a

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Speaker 1: good group and I think it's deep, and they will

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Speaker 1: should be grabbing if they can. And I'm pretty well

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Speaker 1: set up even for the coming years.

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Speaker 3: Like I mean, if you think about like three years

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Speaker 3: He also developed those relationships with those coaches absolutely right,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're priming him or prepping him to

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Speaker 1: I would think this week, this week Bills, I would

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Speaker 1: Well that's a little Harry. Yeah, if you come out

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Speaker 3: eleven interceptions in training camp, as in like one hundred

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Speaker 2: The deflection and couldn't see who picked that.

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Speaker 1: There's just a lot of bad things could happen over

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Speaker 1: He's the starter right now. Yeah, because they drafted a

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Speaker 1: Right, special team him up and learn from those guys.

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Speaker 2: It's a good opponent. They're both gonna play.

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Speaker 1: And play guys right at home, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 3: If it's seven to three after a quarter or something like,

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Speaker 3: around at all. This is a preseason game. We don't

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Speaker 3: he's he's gonna go out and play. He's go out

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Speaker 3: and play.

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Speaker 1: I mean they're gonna want him not to take hits,

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Speaker 1: of course, you know, to protect yourself. This isn't DAFC

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Speaker 1: championship game. But he's gonna play his style of play. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, we're gonna get the break. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly. We are live from Steelers training

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Speaker 3: camp practice here at Saint Fincent College, the last one of.

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Speaker 2: The twenty twenty three training camp.

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Speaker 3: But you're listening to us live on ESPN nine to

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Speaker 3: seventy and Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back with more.

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Speaker 2: Right after this. Well back, I'm Dale Lolli. He is

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 3: This is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN

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Speaker 3: nine to seventy are continuing live coverage here from Steelers

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Speaker 3: training camp practices at Saint Fincent College. Uh, this will

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Speaker 3: be the last one, Matt kind of yeah, get so

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Speaker 3: excited to be here, and then it's.

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Speaker 1: A little bit of a catch twenty two. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean it's an awesome experience. We've we've spent the better

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Speaker 1: part of a month can get home here and there,

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Speaker 1: of course, which isn't a bad ride. I really haven't,

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Speaker 1: and you've gone home less than me. I mean guys

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Speaker 1: like Max Starks who don't live clothes just fly in

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Speaker 1: and flat out live here the whole time. But I

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Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I'm anxious to get to my house

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Speaker 1: in a few hours.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I've in the last what was it July

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Speaker 3: twenty six we reported here, I think so, yeah. I

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Speaker 3: came in the twenty You were there like two days

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Speaker 3: before that, right, I was in on the twenty fifth.

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Speaker 3: Since then, I think I've slept in my own bed twice.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, I'm at like six ish. And during that stretch,

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Speaker 1: so I had to go to had to go to Tampa.

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Speaker 3: Right right now, it's three times because I went home

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Speaker 3: once and then we had to go home and go

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Speaker 3: to Tampa.

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Speaker 2: So that's been it.

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Speaker 1: And Saint Vincent is a wonderful place, but the bed's

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Speaker 1: not so great. I told you. I mean, there's wonderful

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Speaker 1: people coming, like change the linens and give us towels

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Speaker 1: and stuff for while we're there.

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Speaker 2: And there's no do not disturb sign and I.

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Speaker 1: Can put on my door just yell no thanks or

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Speaker 1: from in the middle of a podcast. They walked in

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Speaker 1: yesterday while I was recording a podcast. I'm like waving.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm fine, but anyway, so the wh and

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Speaker 1: they have these thin sheets over your bed, you the look,

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Speaker 1: one that goes around to what you'll call it, And

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Speaker 1: last night it popped off. I guess in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the night. I woke up at like six am

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Speaker 1: to use a bathroom and I'm like plastered to this

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Speaker 1: plastic mattress, sweating, like making this like sticky noise that

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Speaker 1: I pulled off it, and I'm just thinking I would

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Speaker 1: kind of wish I was home.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, well some of these guys on this

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Speaker 3: ninety man roster right now are going there.

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Speaker 1: We're going home or somewhere going home.

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Speaker 3: You know, at some point here. So I thought we'd

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Speaker 3: take a look at that matt and see what now

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Speaker 3: that camp is in the books here where we would

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Speaker 3: be looking at with this roster.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this isn't gonna be easy. I haven't thought about

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Speaker 1: this for a while. It's it's real easy to sit

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Speaker 1: here on the air and be like, m this player

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Speaker 1: looks pretty good. I think he makes a team well,

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Speaker 1: somebody's not gonna right, you know what I mean. Like

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Speaker 1: when you start making decisions of who's in who's out,

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Speaker 1: it's a lot tougher.

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Speaker 3: And typically you're looking at twenty five on offense, twenty

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Speaker 3: five on defense, and three specialists.

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Speaker 1: So we know the three specialists.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, it's gonna be the same as last year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and boom done done, and we know.

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Speaker 3: The three quarterbacks and we know the three quarterbacks. That's

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Speaker 3: again easy.

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Speaker 1: So it did a podcast today. This is a side note,

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Speaker 1: and maybe we'll do offense, one segment, defense, whatever. But

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Speaker 1: I'm betting the league collectively has more teams to keep

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Speaker 1: three at cutdown day.

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Speaker 3: Then you can keep that third guy active in the

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Speaker 3: game day, that too, right when the problems So the

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Speaker 3: part of the rule that makes that tricky if you

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Speaker 3: want to have that emergency quarterback available to you, you

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Speaker 3: can't bring anybody.

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Speaker 1: Up from your practice that okay, Right.

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Speaker 3: So that fifty five man exemption that you get on

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Speaker 3: game days is kind of the caveat there. Okay, do

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Speaker 3: you want the fifty five or do you want the

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Speaker 3: emergency quarterback?

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Speaker 1: See, I bet most teams want the fifty five. I

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Speaker 1: mean at least when everyone's healthy early in the season.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the chances you get to Roodolph in week

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Speaker 1: one or two knock on wood is pretty slim, you know.

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Speaker 1: But you lose if you don't. You know, if you

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Speaker 1: do and he's not there, you lose. But again, sixty

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Speaker 1: nine starting quarterbacks last year, but the.

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Speaker 3: Steelers are a three team, three quarterback team anyway they do, right,

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Speaker 3: But I think there'll be more quarterbacks employed this year

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Speaker 3: than last year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it's a better way to put it.

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Speaker 2: How about it? Running back?

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Speaker 3: That seems pretty I think there's the top three and

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Speaker 3: that's it depends on what you consider.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna call Hayward a tight end, but we call

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Speaker 1: him whatever you want. He's making the team.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean you're gonna look at three running backs,

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Speaker 3: three true running backs. I think there's the way to

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Speaker 3: look at that. So Najee Harris, Jalen Moore, and Anthony

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Speaker 3: McFarland agreed. And then a full back, which will be we'll.

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Speaker 1: Call full Backward Heyward, sure, and then.

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Speaker 2: You can also gets you out of a game on

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Speaker 2: you know, and.

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Speaker 1: Running back in full back. So I also think there's

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Speaker 1: three tight ends. That's easy, okay, I we won't even

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Speaker 1: have to name the names of these people. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: assume everyone listening knows who.

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Speaker 3: That gets you to nine players on offense or I'm

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Speaker 3: sorry ten ten okay, right, right right? Some teams get

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Speaker 3: four backs. I don't think the Steelers have to, especially

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Speaker 3: with Ayward. Yeah, as a ball carrier, so it gets

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Speaker 3: it gets dicey theom When you start looking at offensive

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Speaker 3: line and wide receive it is.

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Speaker 1: I think that's where you have to like, do you go?

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Speaker 1: Do you go ten and five? Because you can use

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Speaker 1: far even think I would look at it like twenty

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Speaker 1: five and twenty five because you might have to steal

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Speaker 1: one from the other or data stifically. I know that,

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Speaker 1: I know they don't. But let's put the guys down

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Speaker 1: in pen that we know we're in.

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Speaker 3: And gets you five starters on the offensive line right

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Speaker 3: right there, they're in pen five plus Jones.

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Speaker 1: Jones is in pen. I think Herbig's in Penn, Herbig, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and make sure I'm not missing one.

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Speaker 2: So I think I think you're.

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Speaker 1: I think I mean, I think he's more, especially.

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Speaker 2: With her Big banged up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Right now, Yeah, I mean I think he's in Bold pencil.

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Speaker 2: Right, and then Anderson. That would give you nine.

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Speaker 1: I think Anderson's in now. That leaves little Raven Clark off,

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Speaker 1: who I think is in big trouble because he's a

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Speaker 1: right tackle only and Anderson can do that. Now you have

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Speaker 1: four capable tackles. There's been a little bit of buzz

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Speaker 1: about like Dylan Cook and Ryan McCollum and Duncle's done it. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but but I don't think they can crack the fifth fuct.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you're gonna.

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Speaker 1: They scream practice squad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, unless you think you can keep ten and five.

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Speaker 1: We can come back to that. Okay, but who would

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Speaker 1: be your tenth Clark? I don't know that he's worth

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Speaker 1: being your tenth with his lack of position versatility or

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Speaker 1: dots in your tenth. I kind of lost my math there. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean I'm putting Dotson on right now. That gives

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Speaker 3: you nine.

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Speaker 1: I give you he's one of the nine. Yeah, okay, And.

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Speaker 3: Again, you're not going to release a started guy who

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Speaker 3: started seventeen games for you last year.

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Speaker 1: My only thought is maybe get a draft pick out

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Speaker 1: of them, you know, potentially, you know, there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of those type of moves, but I wouldn't mind

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Speaker 1: having them around.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right right, I mean especially again with her with

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Speaker 3: her big dealing with the shoulder injury right now, that's

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Speaker 3: not the worst thing in the world.

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Speaker 1: But I think those nine are safe wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: You got your top three guys in Austin, you get Austin,

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Speaker 3: that's four your fifth.

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Speaker 1: I think Miles boy Boykin is strong. I think Boykins

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Speaker 1: beats out White and Butler. I don't think Fitzpatrick or

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Speaker 1: those guys have a shot, So you probably keep five there.

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Speaker 1: That only brings us to twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Though on offense, that only brings us that leads us

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Speaker 2: a twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and then you wonder do you keep I don't

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Speaker 1: think that's the end of the world. That might get

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Speaker 1: Tanner Mus on the team.

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Speaker 2: Or you keep a guy like Donner Olschevski rounds.

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Speaker 1: I guess we should bring him up. I would put

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Speaker 1: him in the greyest of area, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: So it comes down to Olschevski.

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Speaker 1: If it comes down to him, verse an off Kowski

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Speaker 1: or somebody like that, or an offensive lineman.

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Speaker 2: Was just saying, ol Chevski an offensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: You don't think Butler's got a shot. You don't think.

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Speaker 2: I don't see it.

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Speaker 1: White, I don't either, Right, Cody White has a chance.

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Speaker 1: He's more of a call up in week eight because

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Speaker 1: you know what he is, guy after an injury, you know, or.

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Speaker 3: If Danny Smith says no, he's what I need him

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Speaker 3: as one of my core special teams guys, if he's.

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Speaker 1: One of your best, right if he's one of the five.

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Speaker 1: So we got one roster spot to play with on offense, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I might lobby to keep twenty six defenders because

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Speaker 1: the D line, I mean, which we'll get to. I

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Speaker 1: mean like, if if you only keep twenty four offensive dudes,

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Speaker 1: maybe that means you get louder Milk or you know,

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Speaker 1: an extra D lineman or somebody on will youve Gott?

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Speaker 2: I just actually them.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they can keep eight defensive linemen, that's

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Speaker 3: the problem.

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Speaker 1: Oh No, I don't either, But I think seven you

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Speaker 1: almost have toll They kept seven.

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Speaker 3: They kept seven last year, and I think you keep

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Speaker 3: eight linebackers four four, four and four problems then gives

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Speaker 3: you ten dbs, which okay, hmm, unless there's a fifth

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Speaker 3: linebacker muse comes to mind, or see it there someone

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Speaker 3: that's just a Quwakowski year, I mean someone that's a

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Speaker 3: star on teams. That's why I just don't see, because

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Speaker 3: I don't see a fifth safety or a sixth safety might.

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Speaker 2: Be the one where you know, maybe you look at.

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Speaker 1: Killer Brew as a well, he's gonna make it right,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna make it.

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Speaker 3: Do you want him as one of your top You're

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Speaker 3: only if you only keep four safeties?

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Speaker 2: Can you afford that? Can you afford for that to

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Speaker 2: be Killer Brew?

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Speaker 3: Because he's a special teams guy, and maybe a keep

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Speaker 3: five corners and five safeties a Barku or Riley convinces

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Speaker 3: you to only keep twenty four offensive players.

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Speaker 1: This is the can that you find. Let's go through

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Speaker 1: it or are you gonna do it in this next segment? Defense?

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Speaker 3: Let's uh, let's start here. A couple of minutes left.

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Speaker 3: So you're gonna keep this sort of the big fellows.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that might be the toughest the toughest one.

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Speaker 1: Well, we know some you can put in pat Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I think there's five of them you can bow.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about five. They word Ogan, Jobi, le Al,

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Speaker 1: and Benton all right. Now, I tend to think Adams

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Speaker 1: for Hoko and louder Milk make.

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Speaker 2: It that's already seven.

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Speaker 1: I know, does that mean Watts doesn't?

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Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's Adams or for Hoko

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Speaker 2: at this point.

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Speaker 1: I thought that all along. But I have a hard

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Speaker 1: time getting ready to one of those guys. I do too,

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Speaker 1: But you don't want to be nose heavy though.

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Speaker 3: You know both of those guys have spent time on

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Speaker 3: practice squads.

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Speaker 2: M hm.

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Speaker 3: You know they got Adams off the Saints practice squad

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Speaker 3: and Fojoko spent a good portion of last season on

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Speaker 3: the Chargers practice squad.

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Speaker 1: But love to get them back gone your practice, right,

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Speaker 1: But if someone's nose needy, I bet they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: high in the list. I mean, you can't really look

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Speaker 1: at that way. I think he's got to keep you

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Speaker 1: so few teams that actually need a true nose. That's

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Speaker 1: what kills for Hoko, especially.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, because he that's what he is. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think, But.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you can afford to have two

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Speaker 1: true noses on your final roster. Can't do anything, especially

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Speaker 1: since Bent can, right, right? Right? So do you keep

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Speaker 1: Watts over Adams are for Hoko? Has he done enough?

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Speaker 1: M I mean if he lights up the Bills second

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Speaker 1: team offense. Maybe he's done enough.

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Speaker 3: He started a lot of games in this league. It's

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Speaker 3: been productive. I mean, you gave him a signing bonus.

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Speaker 3: You like them, you know, right, probably so because he

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Speaker 3: can play either spot. If you noticed in the last

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Speaker 3: week here they've put him on those.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they're having this exact conversation. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think you keep seven of those guys just because

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Speaker 1: the quality is strong.

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Speaker 2: But I'm gonna say Adams.

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Speaker 1: Adams is still playing ahead of a Hoko, So I

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Speaker 1: don't know how you'd pick for Hoko over him, but

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Speaker 1: I thought that would change.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Adams, h Watts, louder Milk and Watts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, and they'd love to scoop for Hoko

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Speaker 1: back up, and yeah, keep them as a safe.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you know that that could be something you don't

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Speaker 3: You don't hope for this, but you know, you got

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Speaker 3: you got a preseason game, you know, could there be

712
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Speaker 3: an injury there that.

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Speaker 1: That opens for somebody? Right right right?

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Speaker 3: I think outside linebackers pretty there's four, there's four, that's

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Speaker 3: who you're going to keep. I mean, I think inside

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Speaker 3: linebackers pretty pretty set. Probably, I mean I'm keeping those

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Speaker 3: top four guys, and I don't.

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Speaker 1: They don't think Nick k makes a team. No, I

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Speaker 1: don't either. Yeah, I think there's those four.

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Speaker 2: So that's eight linebackers. Mm hmm. Now we could revisit

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Speaker 2: the high spots.

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Speaker 1: Do we have again ten more? Well, that's fifteen.

723
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Speaker 2: Yet we at least it was with ten defensive spots.

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Speaker 1: For assuming Okay, so we have eleven spots open right

725
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Speaker 1: the second, but one of them is going to go

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Speaker 1: to an offensive player, Yeah, gunner or clerk or presumably

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Speaker 1: presumably unless we make such an Okay, let's make such

728
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Speaker 1: a strong argument for a safety or corner.

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll talk about that when we come back. Like

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Speaker 2: Walliams and I am Dale Lallie.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio

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Speaker 3: and ESPN nine seventy the Steelers taking part in their

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Speaker 3: final practice of training camp twenty twenty three here at

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Speaker 3: Saint Fencing College, and well they're on the field right now.

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Speaker 3: This is more the reason we're not talking a lot

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Speaker 3: about practice is this is a practice that is really

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Speaker 3: a practice for the game.

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Speaker 1: There's not they're not competing.

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Speaker 3: They're not really competing like they have been they're not

740
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Speaker 3: in they're in shells today instead of instead.

741
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Speaker 2: I don't even think they're in shells.

742
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like Dale said, the defense is out

743
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: there to try to make the offense better. The offense

744
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: is out there try to make the defense better.

745
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Speaker 2: I mean it's their show. They're a little scout team.

746
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 3: The scout team, they're they're working the defense off of cards,

747
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 3: things like that. But we're gonna take a break right

748
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Speaker 3: now on ESPN nine to seventy and Steelers Nation Radio.

749
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Speaker 2: We'll be back with more right after this. Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: He is Matt Williams and I am Dale Lolling.

751
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Speaker 3: You're listening to the Driver on Steelers Nation Radio and

752
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 3: ESPN nine to seventy are live ongoing coverage from Steelers'

753
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Speaker 3: training camp here at Saint Vincent College. And Matt, we

754
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Speaker 3: were trying to look at cutting this defense here and

755
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 3: not easy.

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Speaker 1: We seem not easy.

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00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 2: You know, we've seen more of that three safety.

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Speaker 1: Look, so you know it's in the mix. It's in

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Speaker 1: the mix. But Peterson can kind of do that too.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, but we know Fitzpatrick's on the team, Kz's

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Speaker 1: on the team. On the team, you're gonna say killer

762
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Speaker 1: Brew's on the team.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna put him down. Yeah, that's four.

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Speaker 1: Then let's revisit the last one.

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Speaker 2: I feel pretty confident that Neil's gonna make it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I actually forgot about him for a second.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say Norwood.

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Speaker 2: See there's a I mean you could get gonna make it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you could consider Norwood kind of like Peterson a

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Speaker 3: safety slash corner defensive back because he plays the nickel.

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Speaker 2: Peterson is going to make it. Porter's gonna make it.

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Speaker 1: Wallace is gonna make it. Wallace. Yes, it's safe to

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Speaker 1: say Pierre makes it.

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Speaker 2: I think Pierre makes it.

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Speaker 3: He's again a core special teamer, and you know he

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Speaker 3: came back on it. He helped himself actually in the

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Speaker 3: offseason by cutting They didn't offer him a tender and

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Speaker 3: he came back on a on a lower.

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Speaker 1: Place that that helps. It's Chandon Sullivan a lock, I

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Speaker 1: think so. I mean Elijah Riley or Barku probably would

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Speaker 1: have to blow up.

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Speaker 3: These two games to knock him out of the mix. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think I think Sullivan. I'm gonna put him down

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Speaker 3: as a So.

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Speaker 2: That's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, that's nine.

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Speaker 1: That's nine.

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Speaker 2: That's nine.

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Speaker 1: So we have at the at the moment, we have

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Speaker 1: two open spots six seven, eight nine. Yeah, okay, so

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Speaker 1: do you keep so?

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Speaker 3: So then it comes down to you still have Oh boy,

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Speaker 3: again the aforementioned some of the guys you talked about safety,

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Speaker 3: Riley bark Who Norwood, Norwood, Madre Harper, Trenton Thompson's.

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Speaker 1: Done some stuff. Yeah, yeah, I was. I was thinking

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Speaker 1: that too, Quincy Roche.

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Speaker 3: It's like, okay, that's two consecutive drops there for he

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Speaker 3: Keepen Butler. That's not how you make the club here.

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Speaker 1: No, that's not good.

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Speaker 3: As we're cutting the team, don't draw right, all right,

800
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Speaker 3: we're in the middle cuts here. Yeah, uh, Perilous, I'm

801
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 3: just throwing out random names like they would have to

802
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 3: be really good special teamers. Perilous, Roche, keewa Kowski, Norwood.

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Speaker 2: That's tough.

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00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: Or do you keep twenty six offensive dudes?

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Speaker 2: Do you have twenty six that you want to keep?

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Speaker 1: I don't think Yeah. I don't think Butler's not enough

807
00:35:58,920 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: to make this team.

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00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 2: No, certainly, and he's not helping his cost today.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think Gunner's done enough to make this team.

810
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 3: After watching him for a year. I think I'd rather

811
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Speaker 3: keep out here. There's an interception by the aforementioned seventeen

812
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Speaker 3: Trenton Thompson.

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Speaker 1: He makes place, and he makes place.

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00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 2: He makes place.

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Speaker 1: What about Wilkinsburg safety Kenny Robinson. I don't know, trustworthyness.

816
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: I think some other guys. Yeah, I think some other

817
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Speaker 1: guys that maybe passed. Like again, I think Trenton Thompson's

818
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: moving past him a little bit. I tend to agree

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Speaker 1: that if it's down, I mean, both those guys have

820
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: no chance to make the team. But if one's going

821
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Speaker 1: to make the team, it's probably Thompson over Robinson. Yeah,

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00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: all right, Well, who's your one offensive guy you'd keep?

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Speaker 3: I might keep an extra offensive lineman just because those

824
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 3: guys are hard to find.

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Speaker 1: Clark, I don't know if it's unless they be him

826
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Speaker 1: or neither. I mean maybe. I mean there's been some

827
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: buzz on the the bottom of the roster, dudes that

828
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Speaker 1: aren't like Dylan Cook, like Dylan Cook or William like that.

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Speaker 3: You know, would those guys get scooped up if you

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Speaker 3: you know, could you.

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Speaker 2: Get those guys back? I don't know, Ryan McCollum.

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Speaker 1: Or I mean, Cook's a twenty five year old offensive

833
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: tackle with some ability. Yeah, I mean if you keep

834
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: them with the plan of develop them all year, he's

835
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Speaker 1: an active all year, that might pay off a year

836
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Speaker 1: from now. You know what I mean, Right, Tackles don't

837
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Speaker 1: grow on trees.

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Speaker 2: Tackles do not. If they did, everybody would be growing

839
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Speaker 2: tackle trees.

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Speaker 1: All right, right right, I'm not seeing the name that

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00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: I have to keep on offense. Yeah, I mean, I

842
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: didn't think it would come to this. But you could

843
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: also pluck somebody off another team. It cuts too, You

844
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: could do that as well, like a sixth receiver that

845
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: you know is good on special teams.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that you want to go into the

847
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 3: season though, with just nine defensive backs.

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Speaker 1: No, but we got two spots, don't we don't. We

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Speaker 1: have an zero and a D right, So I think

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00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: a D back is going to make the team. Yeah,

851
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 1: just a matter of who. I would say, nor Wood's

852
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: the leader in the clubhouse. Just could also keep a

853
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: ninth linebacker mm hm, because that guy's gonna play presumably

854
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: or propecial teams for you or both. Yeah, we're both.

855
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: So that's really what it comes down to. I mean,

856
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: we we don't have to make our fifty three. But

857
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: we just mentioned six or seven players fighting for two spots. Yeah,

858
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: and I think that's basically what the competition comes down.

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00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 3: I think you're I think the guys you're looking at

860
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 3: or Gunner Cody White.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go through this. Yeah, yeah, no particular

862
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 1: worder here. Let's go position by position. Gunner Cody White, right,

863
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: Cook or Clark on the other line? Cook Clark. That's

864
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: about it.

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Speaker 3: On offense, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Would you be open to a running back or wide

867
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Speaker 1: receiver that plays teams I mean yeah, from another team.

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Speaker 2: He has to be really good at and if he

869
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Speaker 2: was really good at it.

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Speaker 1: Is probably not getting cut. Probably not getting cut. You

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Speaker 1: know that has a history of being able to catch

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Speaker 1: past it. Yeah. I think I probably rather keep my own.

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Speaker 2: I think that's going to do.

874
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 1: It for practice. By the way, they're shorty.

875
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you know, I think maybe you keep it.

876
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: Can you keep eight defensive linemen?

877
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: But you can see what about it? Keen Butler, No,

878
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: I don't think.

879
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 3: No, I have to be a really good Just watch

880
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 3: him drop two passes and they're not even in pats,

881
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 3: Like you can't do that.

882
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: I get it. That's not enough for me to cut them.

883
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 3: No, I mean, but it doesn't. It doesn't help your costs.

884
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 3: You're not helping your cost.

885
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: He hasn't stood out enough to be that we have

886
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: to keep that. I don't think so either. I might

887
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: keep two defensive backs. I might keep Riley in Norwood

888
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 1: instead of all those O linemen potentially because you know,

889
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: as much Nickel and Diamonds teams play and special teams. Yeah, yeah,

890
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: I think that's my vote. I mean, all those offensive players,

891
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: unless they like Cook a lot better than maybe I've

892
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 1: given them credit for. I think all those guys we

893
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: mentioned on off are not hard to find off the

894
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: scrap heat. Yeah, I mean, unless they really think Cook

895
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: has a chance to be a guy, and you might

896
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: even sneak them on special teams or on the practice squad.

897
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: I think I keep two d backs.

898
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 2: There's potential there. Yeah. You know, again, that's what it

899
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 2: can come down to.

900
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 3: And again, do they have any injuries over these final

901
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 3: couple of weeks that force your hand, Because the problem

902
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 3: then becomes if you keep somebody and you want to

903
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 3: put place them on injured reserve and have them become

904
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 3: available again later in the season, you have to carry

905
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 3: them on their fifty three man roster on the initial

906
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 3: fifty three man roster, which means you have to release

907
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 3: somebody else and have them clear waivers and that's hard,

908
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 3: and then place that guy.

909
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: So like the Dolphins, for example, folks, they're going to

910
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: do rams is going to make their final roster for

911
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: a day or whatever. Yeah, but then you're a guy short.

912
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,439
Speaker 3: Which means they're going to have to release somebody else

913
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 3: that they have the intention of bringing back.

914
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: But other teams might have a different idea or agents

915
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: might look at totally different idea.

916
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's uh, it gets dicey when you start

917
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 3: doing that.

918
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: It absolutely does. They would need a pretty big injury

919
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: to happen, I think for that to be the factor

920
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: for this team. Yeah, for you know what I mean,

921
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 1: because like Trice isn't going to be that guy.

922
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, no, right, yeah, he's already putting placed

923
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 3: on IR so he's done for the year.

924
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: That's what That's what you don't want to do.

925
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 3: If you have any intentions you can bring multiple guys

926
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 3: back now, and that you know, so you're you know,

927
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 3: if a star gets hurt, you're probably going to leave

928
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 3: that door open to do that.

929
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: So I wish I knew Riley Barku nor Wood. Are

930
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: they okay? Special teamers? Good special teamers?

931
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 3: We're going to figure out here in the last couple

932
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 3: of weeks, right right, right, so, and that's going to

933
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 3: be the termining factor. Absolutely, absolutely, Well, the Steelers a

934
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 3: breaking off for they just finished up their practice here

935
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 3: at Saint Vincent College.

936
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 2: That will do it for the final open practice.

937
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: Yeah of Good College.

938
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty three. Uh.

939
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 3: The next time, well, the Steelers will be they'll have

940
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 3: a workout here tomorrow, but that of course is not

941
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 3: open to the public.

942
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 2: That'll just be the walk through.

943
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 3: They'll head back to Pittsburgh, they'll break camp here, and

944
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 3: the next time they go on the practice field for

945
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 3: a full practice, it will be at the upmc rooney

946
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 3: Sports Complex, which is of course closed to the public,

947
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 3: and you can't get any information out of that list

948
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 3: all the rules that are always in place or then

949
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 3: back in place again.

950
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: So we won't be hearing play by play from us.

951
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 2: Or this guy looks good or not. We did much

952
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: today anyway.

953
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 1: No, today was not normal practice on our typical day.

954
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 3: But we're gonna take a break here is Matt Williamson,

955
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 3: I am Dale. Lolley, you're listening to the Drive on

956
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 3: Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine to seventy. We'll be

957
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 3: back with our number two right after this