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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season one, Episode one

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Speaker 1: of Guys, a production of My Heart Radio. This is

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Speaker 1: a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's

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Speaker 1: share consciousness and say, officially, off the top, fuck the

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Speaker 1: Cooke Brothers, Fuck Fox News, fuck Rush Limbaugh, funck buck Sex,

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Speaker 1: and fuck Ben Shapiro. Fuck JK. Rolling. I like the

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Speaker 1: twist at the end, like we also hate the worst

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Speaker 1: of all. Yes, she definitely should be the finale of

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Speaker 1: of that whole group. Right. Uh, It's Friday, July six.

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Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien a K. I want Trader

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Speaker 1: I want Trader Joe not listening when you say mask.

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Speaker 1: That is courtesy of cookie Smut or Cookies Mutt. I

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Speaker 1: don't know which one it is, but I certainly appreciate it,

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Speaker 1: and I'm thrilled to be joined by my special guest

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Speaker 1: co host. She is Little Zam, one of the very

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Speaker 1: faces on Mount Zeitemore. Jamie Whooper, It's Jamie Jamie. Gotta

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Speaker 1: get down with Jamie in Quarantine every day at the weekend. Again.

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Speaker 1: one oh two four? Oh is that? What is? That

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Speaker 1: Thanks for the a k A. You been ducks. He

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Speaker 1: is the king of the short show titles. So Johnny

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Speaker 1: Davis fan favorite host favorite, Thank you, Johnny. We are

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Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined in our third seats by the hilarious,

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Speaker 1: the talented Teresa Lie. What's up? It's your girl father

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Speaker 1: long Legs. Daddy long Legs is so good. Uh, Teresa,

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Speaker 1: how are you? I am alive and here and yes,

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Speaker 1: that is all I can wish for. How is he's good? Uh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's Uh, he's hiding right now. He's been a little

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Speaker 1: grumpy lately. I feel like when we opened I I

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Speaker 1: didn't really go out or anything, but I did more.

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Speaker 1: I did take him to more parks just to like ROMP.

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Speaker 1: And now he's been quarantined again, and I think he

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Speaker 1: knows that he's mad Carsetti out. I mean he's been

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Speaker 1: that way from day one, though, to be fair, like

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Speaker 1: it didn't take the quarantine to turn him against Carsetti. Uh. Alright, Teresa,

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Speaker 1: We're going to get to know you a little bit

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Speaker 1: better in a moment. First, we are going to tell

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Speaker 1: our listeners a couple of things we're talking about today.

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Speaker 1: We did a Netflix rewatch of two things that I

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Speaker 1: feel like we're going to have the least to say about.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. We'll see, we'll see. Maybe we'll

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Speaker 1: have the most who knows. We're gonna talk about how

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Speaker 1: they got Guilane Maxwell in the Is that right? I

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Speaker 1: do that? Right? I get it? So Glan j Lane

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Speaker 1: her in the French province of New Hampshire, the most

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Speaker 1: exotic locale on the globe. Uh. That was at the

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Speaker 1: end of last week. Um, we're recording this a little early,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about Karen watch. It seems like there's

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Speaker 1: talk about that why those videos are are going viral

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Speaker 1: all At the same time, we're gonna talk about a

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Speaker 1: new study came out that ranks asks not in terms

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Speaker 1: And then we'll talk about Dark, the German TV show

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Speaker 1: that I watched and have have watched before. Uh, and

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about Love the European Week on

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Speaker 1: UM Yeah, which Love is a French or is is

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Speaker 1: I've been looking at other social media sites and how

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Speaker 1: The short answer is yes, there are bots that will

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Speaker 1: collect data. Yeah, pretty much everywhere on the internet. If

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Speaker 1: apply to the Internet. If someone's offering you something and

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Speaker 1: just like ray band. Sometimes they have like a whole

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Speaker 1: cool opportunity on LinkedIn. So like, what do the bots

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Speaker 1: Turing test. Yeah, exactly, exact, inching closer. It's almost sadder

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Speaker 1: to realize some of those men were still rejecting the bots.

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Speaker 1: think is underrated? Teresa? Um, I think vokleff Hovel is underrated. Um.

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Speaker 1: I've been screaming about him for a while, but I

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Speaker 1: And it all started because he was a playwright. Yeah. So,

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Speaker 1: and we just don't I feel like we think of, um,

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Speaker 1: In America, we're almost pushed against them. But he literally

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Speaker 1: That's fascinating. That is first of all, best underrated in

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Speaker 1: such a long time. Not to not to ship talk

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Speaker 1: so Yeah, it's almost impossible to imagine. Yeah, totally, we

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Speaker 1: the very racist ones, like Asian people eat dogs, we

425
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Speaker 1: hush puppies and we like it's almost leading me to

426
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 1: believe that like there's the whole taboo, Like the whole

427
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 1: taboo around eating dogs is like because Americans desperately want

428
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 1: to eat dogs and they're just like it's like guys, like,

429
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: if you legalize gay marriage, that means I can marry

430
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 1: my dog. It's like you want to marry dog? Like

431
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: you telling myself like I want to so many dog

432
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: based foods. If you If anyone listening hasn't seen the

433
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: how It's made episode on Hot Dogs, um, you know,

434
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: don't don't get it right after a meal. But it's

435
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,719
Speaker 1: the wildest, it's the grosser ship on the entire planet.

436
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 1: It's yeah, yeah, alright, let's take a quick break. We'll

437
00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: be right back. And we're back. And as of this recording,

438
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 1: Jillaine Maxwell is in FBI custody. Some people on Twitter

439
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: are saying, you know, start the start the death clock

440
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: on her, which is exactly what we said when Epstein

441
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 1: was arrested. We were like, wait, wait till they kill him,

442
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: and then he died. Uh so, so wasn't a joke.

443
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: So I don't I don't know what to like if

444
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: she dies under mysterious circumstances. It's just like, so it's

445
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: not really a question of like whether a bunch of

446
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: rich people want her dead. It's like how mask off

447
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: is are they and the government willing to be how

448
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: long will they wait before like doing anything? Because it's

449
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: like it is it was like, is a matter of

450
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: putting her in a position where she has nothing to lose,

451
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: but too, I don't know, I feel like it's it's

452
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: so deprived, but I feel like she's for sure going

453
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: to die under mysterious circumstances. It's just a matter of

454
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: whether they're gonna wait, if they're gonna be like, oh,

455
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: I guess that the Epstein murder was a little mask off,

456
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: but maybe this one will wait a bit. Yeah. I

457
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: also wonder if it's like the people who are dumping

458
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: weird news during the pandemic because they know people won't

459
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,479
Speaker 1: be paying as much attention, so they're like, hurry up

460
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: and grabb hers so we can kill her while people

461
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: are paying attention to the national uprising and election and

462
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: um pandemics And yeah, yeah, I mean she has so

463
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: much time to um like just prepared, Like I don't

464
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: want to be a cynic, but I'm like, even if

465
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: she didn't, I don't know, I feel like she had

466
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: time to like hide the evidence or make her deals

467
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: and and all that. And it's like, I don't she

468
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: should have she should have a dead hand switch, like

469
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: where if she dies all of a sudden, all the

470
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: tapes like show up in the New York Times in box,

471
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: like the next day would be actually not the New

472
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: York Times, in the daily inbox. I don't trust the

473
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: New York Times. So let's just they caught her in

474
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: New Hampshire. First weird thing is that she was still.

475
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: That was like the very first rumor when Epstein died

476
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: was that she was where. Even when he was first arrested,

477
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: people are like, she's in New Hampshire with her boyfriend.

478
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: And then I feel like the vibe at that time

479
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: was like there's no way she wouldn't see in New Hampshire.

480
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: And I remember like following it and like some media

481
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: organization like Door stepped him basically and was like, uh, yeah,

482
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: is she here? And he was like, Jiz Lane, what

483
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: that's I've never heard of a name who's that she has?

484
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: That scene? Where? Where there where? They show up at

485
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: what's his name, Paul Walter Houser's house and he's like

486
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: Tony or or like Tony Harding. I don't I don't

487
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: know what Tony Hardening like Siry or her bodyguard, but

488
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: they do. Epstein was doing that in his deposition. I

489
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: watched the doc on Netflix and they asked him about

490
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: people he clearly knows, and he's like, oh, what wasn't

491
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: it stayed again? Yeah? Yeah, so it's so flagrant. I'm

492
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: also seeing a lot of people cover the photograph of

493
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: her at in and out Burger as though that was

494
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: a real photograph. But didn't the Internet proved that that

495
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: was like fake because the signs in the background. Uh shoot,

496
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: So there were these two photographs of her eating outside

497
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: of an inn out Burger where she was clearly it

498
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: seemed like she was posing for the photographs or like

499
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: totally eddies with being photographed, and she was reading a

500
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: book about CIA operatives who were secretly murdered. Um, so

501
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: I don't I thought I thought we had proven that

502
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: it wasn't an actual photograph because the billboards in the

503
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: background were of good Boys or that that movie about kids,

504
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: Yes it's that. Yeah. I think that it was heavily

505
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: speculated that those were photoshopped because Tremblay poster right exactly

506
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: didn't match up. I mean, while the Tremblay managed to

507
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: get his way into this story, what won't he do

508
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: for press? He touches everything, the Tremblay, Big Tremblay. Yeah, yeah,

509
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: I guess I'm saying that that that is um what

510
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: it was. I've only seen it like speculated, but it

511
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: seems like based on that argument, you could you could

512
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: pretty clearly say that it was photoshopped. It's also weird

513
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: like some of the articles where they're talking about this

514
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: um news they all call her like one time girlfriend

515
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: of Jeffrey Epstein, Like, I don't know, that's a like

516
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: a publicist thing to try to just like make her

517
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: feel like she's last. I mean, she lived with him,

518
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: and she was brought up multiple times by these survivors,

519
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: So it's so weird that they've really harped on describing

520
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: her as one time girlfriend La Max or Jeffrey Epstein,

521
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: Like it's such a human traffic call someone one time girlfriend,

522
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: Like yeah, there's just one time, Okay, one time that

523
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: lasted decades, but you know, one time. Yeah. The details

524
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: from the victims are, you know, she was involved in

525
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: literally every way, uh in truly horrifying ways, and all

526
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: of the victims like one of their first you know

527
00:33:55,440 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: questions after Epstein died was like, well, let's get her too,

528
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: because she's still out there and she was, you know,

529
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: super complicit in every the organizer of Yeah. Yeah, I'm

530
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: worry about because I feel like the way that this

531
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: story has been covered has gotten so I mean, it's

532
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: so gigantic and it's such a part of like pop

533
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: culture at this point to where the point was, to

534
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: the point where people like make jokes about it that

535
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: it can be pretty funny. Um, but it's such a

536
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: huge part of pop culture now that it's like I

537
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: always worry about there. There are so many victims of

538
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: these people, and and it's like over and over and

539
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: over they have to like relive stuff, whether it's for

540
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: a documentary, whether it's in court, or whether it's just

541
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: like seeing this like wild goose chase and speculation of

542
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: like um, dying by suicide or dying by murder, and

543
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: just it's frustrated. I feel like, because everyone's so excited

544
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 1: that she has been like gotten and she is going

545
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: to be taken into questioning, like the important thing is

546
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: that she has the information that could actually provide a

547
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: lot of victims with justice. UM, and I have like

548
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 1: for a very cynical view of whether that is actually

549
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 1: likely to happen or not. UM. But yeah, I don't

550
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: know the way this story has been covered because it's

551
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: been they're not considering the point of view of the

552
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: people involved. I think yeah, because I think it just

553
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: gets so like, it gets so gigantic and blown out

554
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: of proportion, and everyone has a take on it, and

555
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: everyone has a joke about it, and then it's like you,

556
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: it feels like sometimes the objective of the investigation is

557
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: lost in the excitement of the coverage. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah,

558
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: it's I feel like if she goes, she's got to

559
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: make a deal. That's probably how she's going to operate.

560
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: But I could see her trying to make a narrative

561
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: where she was also a victim. But I feel like

562
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: the best way to get her just without her this operation,

563
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: Like she's she was crucial to these operations, whereas some

564
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 1: of the other women who recruited UM and then continue

565
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: to recruit could have left and the operation was still going.

566
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: But without her, like I feel like they need to

567
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be cornered. I just hope the

568
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: judge is smart enough to discern because they're often principled

569
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 1: where they say, oh, we let this woman off because

570
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: she was a victim and recruited. Then if Jolne argues

571
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: the same thing, but it's different because she was instrumental,

572
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: Like without her, it would have fallen apart from the

573
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: ground floor. Yeah, like, I have like no faith in

574
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: the American justice system to get this right. They seemed

575
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: to do at zero percent of the time. But it's

576
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: just it's frustrating, I mean, and for it's it's been

577
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: kind of interesting to watch. I guess a lot of

578
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: people discover what the concept of grooming is through this

579
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: story and then also through unfortunately like a lot of

580
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 1: like the Crystal a story like heavily features that concept

581
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: um that I feel like it Yeah, it's easy for

582
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,439
Speaker 1: Lane to say like, oh I didn't oh no, not me,

583
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 1: and it's like, no, you were a full grown adult

584
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 1: who worked at the like organized this operation at every

585
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: single level. I don't know. I mean a lot of

586
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,479
Speaker 1: times it's the pattern too, because I've I've been told

587
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: like when you don't know, because I've been gasolate before,

588
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: and sometimes it does put you in in a place where

589
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: like I don't know what's real. But helpful tip is

590
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 1: just to look at patterns, like if you removed her

591
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: from the situation, which you continue abusing, probably because she

592
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: seems like that, I mean, I haven't looked into it,

593
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna gander. Yes, because Epstein was like that too.

594
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 1: But some of these other women they when they left

595
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,959
Speaker 1: they could you know, if they got the resources, could

596
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: um heal and have a better life. So there's like

597
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: a pattern that persists with abusers that even when they

598
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: you know, move on to the next victim, they continue it. Like.

599
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 1: It's tricky too, because it's like, how do you prosecute

600
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 1: a gas situation like that? Yeah? I don't know, um,

601
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: but you're saying grooming that? Can I add one quick

602
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: thing that I realized, uh, is a lot of literature

603
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: instills this in us as young young woman. Like one

604
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: of my favorite players is Arcadia, and it's literally about

605
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: a tutor. I mean he's only twenty two, but he's

606
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: a tutor who's teaching this girl. Septim is teaching Thomasina,

607
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: who's I think sixteen or very young, and it's like

608
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: a love story, but the dynamic to begin with a

609
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 1: strange because he's her tutor, and through talking and she's witty,

610
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 1: he falls in love with her and it kind of

611
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: I feel like instilled early on this belief for me

612
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: that if someone takes interest in my ideas that makes

613
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: me attractive. But men, older men will give you attention

614
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: because they want to sleep with you, not because they

615
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: like your ideas. But then you feel like they like

616
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: me because I'm smart, and as you get older, you

617
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: see they just get bored. Once. I feel like it's

618
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: like if you have questions, men like you, but once

619
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: you have the answers, they're done. And so it really

620
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: created a very strange dynamic in my mind growing up

621
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: because I love I'm very curious. I love to ask questions,

622
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: and I used to ask older, wiser people and now

623
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: I just look for the infant myself and answer them.

624
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm harassed a lot less, but also realize that those

625
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: people were not interested in my brain. Um, so right,

626
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: there was interesting. Caitlin and I have talked about that

627
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: a lot on like the Bechtel Cast to where it's

628
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: like that whole like why there's such a like legacy

629
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: in movies of like a sexy baby lady who like

630
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: the main male character gets to like show the world

631
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: for the first time, and it's like a very appealing

632
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: uh concept of like we I think like the most

633
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 1: popular examples like the Fifth Element, where it's like just

634
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: like a sexy lady hatches and then he has to

635
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: teach her everything and then they follow love because she

636
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: doesn't know anything, and it's like yeah, yeah, Like that

637
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: whole concept is so like I don't know for a

638
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: long time either, yeah, because it's it's so embedded and

639
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: I don't even think they are actively doing this. But

640
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: like at the end of Arcadia spoiler, I don't know

641
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: if anyone who hasn't read it by now will, But

642
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 1: she dies in a fire, so then he's like sad

643
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: and forever can preserve her in his mind as this

644
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: like dead sixteen year old who was so smart. But

645
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: if she didn't die and she grew up, if she

646
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: became thirty and she had all the answers and started teaching,

647
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: I feel like he'd be like moving on to the

648
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: next sixteen year old. So I don't know. It's not

649
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: as feminist a player as I had thought when I

650
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: was reading her um because it's about a smart girl,

651
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: but she's only smart because she died. She's allowed to be. Yeah, well,

652
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: we'll allow it. The one thing with the Maxwell story

653
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: is sorry, yeah, we that we had that, we just

654
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 1: didn't bring up. No, that was all very interesting and

655
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: super relevant, But I am just interested to see like

656
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: the I think Epstein's whole thing was like, you know,

657
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: a black male uh Ponzi scheme or I have that suspicion.

658
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: It seems like he was taking video of all these

659
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: powerful men and was not shy and telling the women

660
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: he was trafficking and presumably Maxwell about the fact that

661
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: he was doing that. So I do wonder, you know,

662
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: if they're able to work the whatever the situation is

663
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: with her so that they can like kind of expose

664
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: this broader web of human trafficking. And you know, some

665
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: of these powerful people who were on that island or

666
00:41:55,080 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 1: that plane, um who kind of got away when when

667
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 1: Epstein uh committed suicide. I challenged one of these men

668
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: who um were who have blackmail too, because I'm sure

669
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: they're all, you know, shaking in their boots, by challenge

670
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: if any of them really are remorseful, to just be like,

671
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: there's a video of me, and so then they can

672
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 1: be like I confirm, and then obviously they'll go to prison.

673
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: Hopefully they won't die, but they'll say like because I

674
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: did it, Because they if they did it, they still

675
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: did it. They got live with it. So like if

676
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: you want to make it right, come out and say

677
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: I did this ship. They have it on video. But

678
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 1: if they come out, I mean, that would change this

679
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: whole thing. If one of these men who has is

680
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: being blackmailed step forward and said, yes, I sucked a

681
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: kid and it's bad, and but I did it, so

682
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: it's bad. So me not saying it's not going to

683
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: make it go away, but now I want to make

684
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: things right and take down this girl and everything around it.

685
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: That would She's banking on nobody wanting that out because

686
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: obviously they don't, But I think so I think they

687
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: should come out and make it right. Well, I feel

688
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: like another and other um way that that could possibly

689
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: be resolved is there's so many accounts of people who,

690
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: while they did not seemingly like engage in actual human trafficking,

691
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: were like on the plane, seemed to know what was

692
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: going on, engaging literally Matt Graining and his and then

693
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: in his Nasty Feet story like that is still like

694
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: there's so many people who have peripheral knowledge of this

695
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 1: that could confirm because it's like it's still like they're

696
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: trying to like deny the existence of any of it,

697
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: and they're afraid well, and just like assuming that every

698
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: anyone who ever engaged with it at any level is

699
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: going to be so fearful and embarrassed that they would

700
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: never admit that it existed. And if if anyone at

701
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 1: any level were able to confirm, like, yes, I knew

702
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: this was happening, um, even if they didn't participate in

703
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: it like that, that moves things forward at least in

704
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 1: some meaningful way. I mean, I'm granting in his nasty

705
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: feet need to come forward. We all knew what Jeffrey

706
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: Epstein's uh was up to, Like everybody like in you know,

707
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: the the media was onto him. There were rumors like everywhere,

708
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: So like those people clearly knew and like the the

709
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: idea that because they're they're these like you know, supposed

710
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: like kind of liberal hero like Thomas Pinker, who's like

711
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 1: this respective professor and like sociologist type guy is like

712
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: was all over the place like in Epstein's life like that,

713
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: like there's no excuse for him to not do what

714
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: you guys are talking about, like come forward and be

715
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: like Okay, so here's what was actually going on. But

716
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 1: like he's just getting to continue to exist in polite society.

717
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: Maybe they're afraid they're always won't be loud enough. Here's

718
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: what you guys do. Start a group chat. Okay, and

719
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: everybody released your statements on the same day, then it's

720
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: like you can't squash all the bugs at once. So

721
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: first of all, teacher, you know, to teach if you have,

722
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: if you're the grandkid or kid of one of these

723
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: powerful people, teach them how to make a group chat

724
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: on signal and then tell them to you know, get

725
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: get the Clintons on a group chat. And um, I mean,

726
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: Malcolm Gladwell seems it seems like he knows how to

727
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 1: use the Yeah, Malcolm Glabwell seems like he probably knows

728
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: how to use a group chat. So Malcolm Glabwell, organize

729
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: your fellow perverts together, get them to come clean. All right, guys,

730
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and when we come back,

731
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 1: we'll check in with the Netflix stuff. And we're back.

732
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: And before we get to the Netflix top ten at

733
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: the end of last week, I want to talk about

734
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen parties. I'm sure a lot of you just

735
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: got done going to a bunch of them over the

736
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: holiday weekend. But so there's this story that's breaking nationally

737
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: that's coming out of Alabama and claiming that college students

738
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: in I think Tuscaloosa we're having COVID nineteen parties where

739
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: the object was to spread COVID nineteen and they would

740
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: go out of their way to invite somebody with tested

741
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: positive and then they would put money in a pot

742
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: and whoever caught it first would get the money. Where

743
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: was this reported? It was reported by ABC News and

744
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: they've never been wrong about anything. Uh. It just reeks

745
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: of every one of those like fake local news, like

746
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: media panic things of like rainbow part these the girls

747
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: are wearing different kinds of lipstick, or like pill parties

748
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 1: where the kids were stealing the pills and just taking

749
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,479
Speaker 1: pills at random as like a Russian roulette. Like those

750
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 1: were all stories that, like the entire US mainstream media

751
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: was like accepted as true for a couple of weeks

752
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,479
Speaker 1: and everybody freaked out about and then it was like, oh,

753
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: there's not been a single confirmed example of this. Yeah,

754
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 1: it sounds a little I mean, I don't know that.

755
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 1: Just when I was like looking at the cliff notes

756
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: of this story this morning, it sounds a little suss

757
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: to me. I mean, not that I don't believe that

758
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: college students could act aggressively against their own interest in

759
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: the interests of people around them, which we saw at

760
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: the beginning of COVID with spring Break and all that

761
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: ship like, but they didn't go on springbreak to catch

762
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: exactly like that level of it. I'm like, that is

763
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: is bumping me with this story. I need I need sources.

764
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense because if they thought it was

765
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: a hoax, then they wouldn't believe you could get it.

766
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 1: But if they believe it was real, then they wouldn't

767
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,240
Speaker 1: want it. So it's kind of like the logic breaks

768
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: down when you try to break it down. I think

769
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: the theory is that they think it's real. They think

770
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: they're like invincible because they're young, and so they want

771
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 1: to get it, so that they are actually like not

772
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: capable of getting it again. I don't know, but I mean,

773
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: I don't know something that it sounds fake. I said

774
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: the logic of it and then said something completely illogical.

775
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: There's also there's also this detail that there's a money

776
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: pot where the first person who catches it gets the money,

777
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: but like, how would that possibly work. They're waiting for

778
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: their test results. Yeah, the party's lasting days as they

779
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: wait there. And also like one whoever gets the first

780
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: test result back, multiple people would have it for sure

781
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: then right, they would all have it. It's my god, Yeah,

782
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: I this sounds off to me. If it's true, horrible

783
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: hate it. I just it doesn't um. I don't know. Yeah,

784
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: there's too with how that would work, and also the

785
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: intention of it, Like I don't understand the intention of it.

786
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: I understand like, oh I want to go in spring break,

787
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,479
Speaker 1: Fuck you, I don't understand what's going on in the world.

788
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go. But the intentionality behind this is confusing,

789
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: kind of a sorry, well to say, it's almost like

790
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: the it feels like Russian roulette, which is something people do.

791
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: But to me, I think the magnitude of the story

792
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: is not the way they're making it seem like, I

793
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: don't want to say it's not happening. Someone can read

794
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: it and be like that's a good idea because they're

795
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 1: very dumb and do it. But that's the kind of

796
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: person who might already have a you know, a death

797
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: center or death wish, or the kind of person who

798
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,280
Speaker 1: speaks that kind of thrill like would play Russian Roulette.

799
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: So I believe it could happen. I don't believe that

800
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: this is happening to the extent that they're pushing it

801
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: out right. It always sounds a little deflective, where it's

802
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: like it's clear that young people are not the primary

803
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: like drivers of virus spread, and then you when you

804
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: see stuff like this, it's like, no, it's actually teenagers

805
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: that are doing this, and it's like, I don't think

806
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: that it is. I also don't think a lot of

807
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 1: the things, A lot of these fake stories. You can

808
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: debunk them by asking yourself if it would be in

809
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: any way fun for anybody at that party, like the

810
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: pill party, Like why would you go to a party

811
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: where some of the pills are advil or like something

812
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 1: that is going to just give you like gas or something,

813
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: and some of the pills are good drugs instead of

814
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: just going to a party where all the pills are drugs,

815
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: Like why would that be? Why would that be? Like

816
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: I've never heard of that, but that's so funny. That's

817
00:50:56,040 --> 00:51:00,439
Speaker 1: definitely a story designed to stoke for your parents exactly. Oh,

818
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: my kid would take advil, but they'd be tricked by

819
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 1: their good their bad friend into taking drugs it's like

820
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: they wanted to take drugs. They just take the drugs

821
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: like to be tricked into it. Yeah. In this case,

822
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: like it doesn't sound fun, Like there's nothing fun about it,

823
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 1: like because there's no like payoff where you're like, ah,

824
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: it was me who had the COVID my team the

825
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: whole time, Like there's nothing, uh, like you could just

826
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: go play like Mafia or something like, there's just so

827
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: much more fun things to do. This is Yeah, this

828
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: sounds like it sounds like a like a I don't know,

829
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 1: it sounds like an unfriended movie. It sounds like its

830
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: movies written by old people about young people. Yeah, I

831
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: guess that's what I'm saying. It's like it sounds like

832
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 1: a story that an old person would write about young

833
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: people to make you afraid of young people. Oh my gosh,

834
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: Like what's that kissing booth one that on Netflix that

835
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: was like written by Now that story was no, that

836
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: story was written by a fifteen year old. Oh it

837
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: was okay, Yeah, it was written on what pad by

838
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: a fifteen year old, which is just I guess evidence

839
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: to the opposite of like, okay, you know fifteen year old,

840
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: maybe they can't tell their own story. They need some

841
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: help from an adult. Hum. I feel like, okay, the

842
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: the comedy version of this game, this COVID nineteen party

843
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: would be like joint comedy and whoever gets depression first?

844
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: I know, and it's like it's also everybody, it's not

845
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: fun and for no reason at all, we can't stop

846
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 1: doing it and you could win like maximum forty dollars

847
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:52,280
Speaker 1: like how much people like to drink tickets? And uh, alright,

848
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: as we have come to the Netflix Top ten check in,

849
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: we picked the ninth and tenth movies from the Netflix

850
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 1: Top ten from the end of last week. They are

851
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: Love and Dark. Uh. These are the fewest notes we've

852
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: ever we've ever had about it, Like I I usually

853
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: right endlessly when it's a deep movie like Trolls World

854
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: Tour or The nut Job. But this week I watched

855
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: an entire season of a show, and I have like

856
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 1: a couple of sentences. Uh, Jamie, you watched Love and

857
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: your analysis is boo, Well I have I have thought, Yeah,

858
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: that's my central thesis. Do you want to talk love first? Sure? So, okay,

859
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 1: Love is is not the Paul Rust Show. Uh, It's

860
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 1: it's the gas Bar. No um movie from the whole

861
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: thing is eight was released in three D. At the time,

862
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: it was like a three D art house pornow movie. Uh,

863
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: they do not have it on Netflix and three D,

864
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: so maybe there are things I was missing. But it

865
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: is fun to know that the movie is three D

866
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: because you can tell the shots that were three D

867
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: because there are moll there's at least one thing where

868
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: there's like a penis coming at you at the screen

869
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: and you're like, well, that would have been something to

870
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 1: see in three D. I guess like that would have

871
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: and I believe it's the director's penis. It's actually the

872
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: director's gas Par nos Penish was good. Good for him.

873
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I've seen um, I've seen others.

874
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: I've seen Enter the Void, which a guy who was

875
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: stating when I first moved to l A made watch

876
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: on a second date, and I don't know. It's like,

877
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: Gaspar no is like a talented filmmaker. I don't like,

878
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: do you think he has to say? But like he

879
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: the movies look cool. I think, like, you know, it's there.

880
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 1: I just it's kind of weird because it's like he's

881
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: shooting these long sex scenes, a lot of which I

882
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: did fast forward through because the movie is two and

883
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: a half hours long, and by fast forwarding through sex scenes,

884
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: it's only an hour and a half long. Nothing happens,

885
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: but it is. It takes less time, but it's like

886
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:31,720
Speaker 1: there they are like very well shot, like porn pornographic scenes.

887
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: But it's just weird to me that he's like he's

888
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: filming these sex scenes as if he's like the first

889
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: person to have ever done it, when there's just millions

890
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: and billions of hours of it with better plots like

891
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: the The Thing with Love is like So for me,

892
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: it felt very much like a movie made for like

893
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: n y U Freshman Boys, where it's it's about it

894
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: stars a guy who I learned is now married to

895
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 1: Zoe Kravitz. Good So I've seen Zoe Kravitt's husband's dick

896
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: a lot, so much so much less um but but yeah,

897
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: like it's about this guy who is like Also, there's

898
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: some uh, I mean, I don't I'm they're in Paris.

899
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:26,240
Speaker 1: I don't know what the age consent situations are there,

900
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: but there's definitely some of that where you're like, I

901
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: don't love this, but it's just like it's it's he

902
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: It's like an American in Paris who talks like an

903
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: n y U freshman. Every girl he meets immediately wants

904
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: to have sex with him. Uh, he like where he's

905
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: standing at the point at that moment, it's like he's

906
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: like a shitty person, and the movie knows he's a

907
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: shitty person. But they're also like, but isn't he complicated?

908
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: And You're like, I don't know, I don't know. I

909
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: don't think that he is. I think he might be

910
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 1: a little like and he's also like the worst dad,

911
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: isn't there doesn't he orable father? And then also guest

912
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 1: Barneau is like one of those filmmakers who's really into

913
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 1: constantly referencing himself and like inserting himself into his own movies,

914
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: which is like literally literally, I mean he's in this

915
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: movie as a guy named no uh and then and

916
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:25,439
Speaker 1: and then there's the kid's name is Guess bar So

917
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: Guess Bartneau is obsessed with himself. He I don't know,

918
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: he much like Ari Astor At times, I feel like

919
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: he's a really good filmmaker who's writing I really can't stand.

920
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: For the most part, um but like the the main

921
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: character whose name is Murphy, Murphy's Law everything's going wrong.

922
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: They literally showed the sunscreen. Um, they say that in

923
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: the movie it's a freeze frame. It's a freeze frame.

924
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: And so just the movie does all this stuff to

925
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: like distance blame and like accountability for the main character

926
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: when he's horrible and like kind of knows it but

927
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: not enough to do anything about it, which I guess

928
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: is you. I don't know. I guess you can say

929
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: that in a movie. But why the and then and

930
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: then the other the woman who is very like it's

931
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: almost like a Christopher Nolan style role for a woman

932
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: where she like, like, we were talking about earlier treets,

933
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: so she dies to teach him a lesson. Um, he says, one,

934
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: I only watched the first two minutes. I told you

935
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: guys that. But yeah, it's it's I guess, like spoilers

936
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 1: for everything, but nothing really happens. It's just like one

937
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:42,439
Speaker 1: of those stories where um, he's with this woman named

938
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: Electra symbolism what like shut up, like, it's with this

939
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: woman Electra, and then he cheats on her all the

940
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: time and he's like, why are you mad about that?

941
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: And then he gets a seventeen year old girl pregnant

942
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: and then they break up. He stays with the seventeen

943
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: year old because the seventeen year old does not want

944
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: to get an abortion, and there's like a whole conversation

945
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: about how she's pro life, and then they have a

946
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: kid named gaspar No and and then he's with her

947
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: and so he's like regretting that he didn't make things

948
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 1: right with this woman. He was compulsively cheating on um

949
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: for years. And then you get a call at the

950
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: beginning saying that she has most likely died by suicide,

951
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: and then we just get flashbacks to every time that

952
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: they had sex, and then it resolves at the end

953
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: by like I don't know it just like I don't know.

954
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: At the end there it's like in the day they met,

955
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: he said to her, life is pointless, you might as

956
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 1: well kill yourself, and then she goes, ha ha, I agree,

957
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: and then three years later she does it. It's very

958
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: it's so I don't know. I didn't I didn't see

959
00:59:56,040 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: much value in it. Wore a rendition of it more

960
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 1: than I think I would enjoyed it. It's so and

961
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: it's told all out of order, kind of for like

962
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: the hell of it. I didn't really see the point

963
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 1: of like the reveal. The reveal at the end is

964
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: so dumb. It's like the reveal at the end is

965
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: he said something stupid to her the day they met,

966
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,919
Speaker 1: and then she didn't learn anything about anything and then

967
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 1: just did something even though she knew he was stupid,

968
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 1: and then at the end they hug in a bathtub.

969
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: It's kind of fun because you can you can imagine,

970
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: like cas far No, just because I have like one

971
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: of those Alexa things where you can change the lighting

972
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 1: in your room, and he's so into like I mean,

973
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: it's like effective, but it is also like kind of

974
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 1: are you just whispering to an Alexa like Alex and

975
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: then you're like, oh, never feeling something. Oh um. I

976
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 1: think I honestly would have liked it better if I

977
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: could have seen it in three D. But the story

978
01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: was dogshit. The sex scenes were really long, and it's

979
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: just like I could have just watched porn. That's my review.

980
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 1: I could have just watched porn and I had a

981
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: much better time and saved two hours. The first scene

982
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: is like a very explicit sex scene, and I was

983
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: so distracted by I mean, I really just wanted to

984
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: watch a bit because I got I just didn't have

985
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: time to watch it all. But I was so distracted

986
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: by how he was like trying like he was fingering her,

987
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 1: but he was like fingering her thigh, and I couldn't,

988
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: like I know, it's just because it's like that's good,

989
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 1: that like faking it. So she probably was, you know, safe,

990
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 1: the actress and all that, but it made me be like,

991
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: can you just shoot from a different angle? It was

992
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 1: so distracting, and that to me is like maybe that's

993
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 1: what he thinks it was. I don't know, but it

994
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 1: wasn't faked, Like the whole thing there, like rubbing her thigh.

995
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's not where you I thought, what are

996
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: you doing there? I'm so confused, Like I don't like

997
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: all these like has sex and like film. My girls

998
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: who are like provocateurs in that way are always like

999
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 1: I just get a little like is everyone safe here?

1000
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 1: Like that was my Yeah, I keep thinking. I kept

1001
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: thinking that. I was like is everyone safe here? Because

1002
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: this filmmaker has a reputation for like shooting stuff while

1003
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: he's like high on cocaine, Like he's like openly admitted

1004
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: this stuff. He's like possibly most famous for like shooting

1005
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: a brutal rape scene. Like he's done a lot of

1006
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: stuff that is like you don't have total faith that

1007
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 1: everyone is like okay, and so it's also kind of

1008
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 1: like an anxiety experience in that way. I was talking.

1009
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 1: I just said that to Isaac. I was because Gaspar

1010
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: no it this movie. If you just saw it, you

1011
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 1: would be like, this movie for sure was written and

1012
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 1: made by a nineteen year old Uh, but it's not.

1013
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 1: It's made by a fifty two year old man at

1014
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: the time, and so I feel like it's a little

1015
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 1: bit embarrassing. I don't know. I like, I think he's

1016
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 1: he's trying to make a little bit of commentary on

1017
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 1: like the stupidity of youth, but he doesn't know how

1018
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 1: to write his female characters and doesn't really the only

1019
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: consequence that the like protagonist experiences is that he like

1020
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: a woman dies, which is I just hate that writing

1021
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: choice every single time. And he doesn't necessarily seem to

1022
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 1: miss like or or want to make things right so

1023
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 1: much as he misses, like all his flashbacks are just

1024
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 1: sex scenes. So it's like this is the sex scenes,

1025
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 1: Like he doesn't like it's like if you went back,

1026
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 1: he just do it again because he missed the sex.

1027
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 1: I watched it with Isaac and we were talking about,

1028
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: like if you take out if the movie was just

1029
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: shown in a linear fashion, because it has this framework

1030
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 1: of like the day he finds out that she most

1031
01:03:56,680 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 1: likely died by suicide, and so that where the movie starts,

1032
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 1: and then you have all the flashback all over them.

1033
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: But I think if it's the story is about a

1034
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 1: guy who is a terrible father. We get a call

1035
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 1: saying that his ex girlfriend who he used to cheat on,

1036
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: has died by suicide, and then he spends the whole

1037
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 1: day getting high out of his mind and recalling sex

1038
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 1: in detail, and then ends his day crying in a bathtub.

1039
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 1: And so he just spends the whole day at home,

1040
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: Like it's just just spends the whole day at home

1041
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 1: doing drugs. That's also very narcissistic to be like, yes,

1042
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 1: this woman who killed herself, who has a life outside

1043
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 1: of me, who hasn't talked to me, probably did it

1044
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 1: because our sex was so good. Like it's like it's

1045
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: almost it's like this weird thing of like not all men,

1046
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 1: but a lot of these types of like more narcissistic,

1047
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 1: Like I want to say, abusers men, they tend to think, oh,

1048
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 1: feeling sorry internally and like, really, susling with my demons

1049
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 1: is enough for you to forgive me. It's like no,

1050
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, that you should still do that, but

1051
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 1: also like you still did a bad thing, so you

1052
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 1: still got a real consequence and stopped to happen. I'm

1053
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: sorry that you're struggling internally. That is also hard, but

1054
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 1: it's not enough. And all these movies are just about like, oh,

1055
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: can you see how how this has weighed on me? Uh?

1056
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 1: And it was like unclear. It was not clear to

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Speaker 1: me in the movie whether Gaspar I know, was doing

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Speaker 1: this with any level of like self awareness that I

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01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 1: felt like was like I for me, I don't think

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Speaker 1: he was. But I paused the movie and my boyfriend

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Speaker 1: and I had an argument about it. He's like, no,

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Speaker 1: I think he knows. I'm like, I don't think he knows.

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01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,479
Speaker 1: I don't think he knows. I think that he like,

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01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 1: like you were saying to you, So I think that

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01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 1: he thinks that presenting the fact that the protagonists felt

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01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: guilt is kind of enough. I think, well, let me

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01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 1: ask you, asked you this would to change? Because I

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01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 1: used to struggle with this and I decided that wouldn't.

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01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 1: But when you try, if your survivor, you try to justify,

1070
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: like would it change the fact if someone did a

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01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 1: bad thing, if they were sorry or not to me?

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01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 1: I used to be like, if I know this person

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01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 1: realized how much they hurt me, that would make me

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01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 1: feel less mad or less bad. But then I over

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01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: time you realize, wait a minute, that's also manipulation. They

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01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 1: could have just not done it. So them saying sorry

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01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 1: making me feel less angry is also a form of

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01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 1: it's just like a chance to make it about themselves again,

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01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 1: of like here's my big sorry performance, and here's like

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01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 1: whether it's sincere or not, Like I just don't want

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01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 1: any part of it. I mean if he knows, because

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01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: he just seems so endlessly fascinated by the guy feeling

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01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 1: guilty about having cheated on her, Like that just is

1084
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 1: like doing it because so like what would the point

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01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 1: be if he did to realize how stupid that was? Like,

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01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 1: because there's nothing maybe I should be having this conversation

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01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 1: with Isaac No, I mean like he but it was

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01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 1: funny because we had like a positive movie like fifteen

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01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 1: minutes before it ended to have this argument and then

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01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 1: I emerged victorious because I was like, I don't think

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01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: that Gaspar now is recognizing what Like, I don't think

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01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 1: he's examining anything. I think he's just showing it. And

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01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 1: Isaac's like, well, I don't know, like we haven't seen

1094
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 1: the end, blah blah blah. And then we watched the end,

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01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 1: and it's so on the nose because he's named this

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01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 1: character Murphy, because Murphy's laws, something that can go wrong will,

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01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 1: and which just the name of the character absolves him

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01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 1: of any guilt or accountability that he would have for

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01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 1: any of his actions, because it's like, well, bad things

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Speaker 1: are just going to happen. But then at the end,

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Speaker 1: there's that whole scene where he draws the direct line

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Speaker 1: of like because Murphy told Electra that, like, you know,

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01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 1: there's no point in life. That's why all this happened.

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01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 1: And you're like, what kind of like narcissistic person thinks

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01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 1: that someone would even remember that conversation, Like it's just

1106
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 1: so ridiculous, the kind that builds their entire film career

1107
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 1: so that they can create a three D film of

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01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 1: their boner put like, uh, fucking the audience, fucking like

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01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 1: literally fucking the movie theater. Yeah, I guess Partnet has.

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01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 1: He's like a talented filmmaker with some serious narcissistic issues

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01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 1: and I don't care for his work. M Uh cool

1112
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 1: dark is like if Donnie Darko was a German TV show. Um,

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01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 1: it's like there's trippy time travel stuff based on a

1114
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:51,839
Speaker 1: high school education's worth of science and it's pretty fun

1115
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 1: for a while, and then you sort of get annoyed

1116
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 1: by how like clever it thinks it is. But um,

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01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 1: like it has it's just very much centered in that

1118
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:06,640
Speaker 1: like nineteen year old boy mentality of uh that you

1119
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 1: are talking about. Like season two opens with a knee

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01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 1: check quote and it's like not one of the good ones.

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01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 1: It's like if you stare for a long time into

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01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 1: the void, the void stares back. Yeah, his best. I

1123
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 1: like the that Suicide Squad movie from DC. Love to

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01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 1: quote that. Um, there are some cool twists like for

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01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 1: a time travel like the things I like about it.

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01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 1: It's a time travel movie that had like does some

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01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,679
Speaker 1: cool things with time travel that I hadn't really seen

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01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 1: anywhere else, Like where character different characters who are interacting

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01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 1: with each other, you find out there like the same

1130
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 1: person just at different stages of their life, which is

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01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: really cool. Um, and it's like a time travel movie

1132
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 1: that I guess Back to the Future sort of did this,

1133
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 1: but it's got a small town vibe where you kinda

1134
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 1: learn the location and you get an idea of the

1135
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 1: geography of the town, um that it all takes place

1136
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: around like it it kind of reminds me of Goonies

1137
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 1: in that respect. And then at one point in the

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01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 1: second season, the kids bedroom has a Goonies poster on it,

1139
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:21,640
Speaker 1: so it's like, yeah, okay, so you're definitely influenced by

1140
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:25,600
Speaker 1: I also found out, so anybody who's starting to watch this,

1141
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 1: do not put the English audio on, just use subtitles,

1142
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 1: uh the English you can like have the English voiceover.

1143
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 1: And it's so bad like the voice acting, because it's like,

1144
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 1: first of all, it's not like they don't say the

1145
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 1: same things as the subtitles for some reason, but also

1146
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 1: like so they didn't get like great voice actors for

1147
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 1: the audio track. And then it's also like this, really

1148
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is how German people talk

1149
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 1: or if it's like just how they wrote this show,

1150
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 1: but it's like all very like I wrote one thing

1151
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 1: that we're not free and what we do because we're

1152
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 1: not free and what we want, we can't overcome what's

1153
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 1: deep within us. Is an actual line that one person

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01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:20,560
Speaker 1: says to another person, um casual conversation. Yeah so you

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01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 1: say that that makes you think, yeah, man, I was

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01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 1: fucking brains leaking out of my nose over here. Uh

1157
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 1: but yeah, so don't do that. Just read the because

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01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 1: then when you watch with subtitles, like the actors themselves

1159
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 1: are good, it's just like, yeah, like you you actually

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01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 1: believe that they're saying something that they would say when

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01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 1: it's actually said in the German. So watch it that way.

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01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 1: It is cool, Like it's it's worth watching if you like,

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01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 1: if you still like Donnie Darko, okay, if you're eighteen.

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01:11:59,920 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 1: I I've it's been many years since I've revisited Donnie Darko. Yeah,

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01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if I even shop at this point.

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01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 1: I don't know that unusual movies that I that like

1167
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 1: had the biggest drop off from like when I first

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01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 1: saw them and I was a teenager to like when

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01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:22,679
Speaker 1: I watched them more recently, I was like, wow, these

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01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 1: are these are not good? Donnie Darko made me think,

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01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 1: oh shit, I like in the first opening. Once again,

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01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 1: only watched the first two minutes, but there's that quote

1173
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 1: about time and I was like, okay, interesting, and then

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01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 1: it says everything is connected, and I just out loud said,

1175
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:52,799
Speaker 1: oh ship, yeah, no, wow, everything is connected? Is that true?

1176
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 1: No way? Wow? Is this the premise of the show.

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01:12:56,360 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 1: They have like five different metaphors to make that same

1178
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:06,480
Speaker 1: point throughout there, like it's like twenty thousand million infinite

1179
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 1: interconnected wheels that are turning each other. And then they're

1180
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 1: like it's like a great tapestry with infinite threads that

1181
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:17,599
Speaker 1: are all connected to one and it's like, okay, so

1182
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 1: get it. Everything is connected. Okay. It is made by

1183
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 1: like a moody German married couple, is it is? And

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01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 1: the other thing that really made me like changed from

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01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 1: because I started watching this uh earlier this year because

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01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 1: a friend of mine was like, really likes it. And

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01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 1: then I watched the Jamie Fox movie. I think it's

1188
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 1: like up All Night or something. It's like an action movie.

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01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:48,600
Speaker 1: It was one of the first movies I did for

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01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 1: the Netflix rewatch because it was trending and that is

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01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:58,679
Speaker 1: directed by this UH couple and really it's very dumb.

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01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 1: So I was like oh so this is like a

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01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 1: dumb person's version of a smart movie. Um, and that

1194
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 1: changed the way I watched the last couple episodes. But interesting,

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01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,719
Speaker 1: I'm kind of curious. It's still like, I think it's

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01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 1: cool and like the intro, they do a cool thing.

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01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 1: It's worth just watching the intro sequences like cool looking

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01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 1: with like a mirrorge video. And that's it. Those are

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Speaker 1: two things that are trending on Netflix. Teresa, It's been

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01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 1: so wonderful having you on the daily zeitgeists. Where can

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01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 1: people find you? Follow you, enjoy you? Um, I'm on

1202
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,679
Speaker 1: online all the time at Larissa t I've been posting

1203
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 1: about bots. I think by the time this comes out,

1204
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 1: I'm trying to write up of accessible, easy to understand

1205
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 1: article about um some of this weird shit I'm finding.

1206
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna okay, I'm just gonna say it'll be

1207
01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 1: out by the time you hear this, So find me

1208
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 1: on Twitter to it, because I think I just sound

1209
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 1: like I'm a raving lunatic. So I'm gonna find a

1210
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 1: way to at least simplify some of this stuff. But

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01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 1: there's some really wild hit out there. This is the thing,

1212
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 1: and just a lot of the weird brainwashing indoctrination that

1213
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 1: the extreme right is using, um and how they're targeting

1214
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 1: people online. So I'll share some examples that makes more sense,

1215
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 1: and I'll and if it's bad, you can you know,

1216
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 1: you can yell at me. That's fine. I deserve it.

1217
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 1: And is there a tweet or some other work of

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01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 1: social media you've been enjoying? Um? Yeah, I really like

1219
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 1: this tweet. I guess it's a few days old now,

1220
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,639
Speaker 1: but from Ze who's super funny if you guys don't

1221
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 1: follow her already, but it kind of sums up how

1222
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 1: I feel about coronavirus. She just said, surely we can

1223
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 1: do more to combat the bread of coronavirus than absolutely nothing.

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01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 1: So I just enjoyed that. It made me sad but

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01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 1: also laugh. So, um, Jamie, it's been great having you

1226
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 1: as my guest co host these past couple of days.

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01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 1: Where can people find you and follow you? You can

1228
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:08,680
Speaker 1: find me on Twitter at Jamie Loftus help, Instagram at

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01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 1: Jamie christ Superstar. I'm going to shout out this was there.

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Speaker 1: This is a screenshot of a tweet that I took

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01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 1: that was on a long thread that I read till

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01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 1: three in the morning of like people texting, they're like

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01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 1: ten year old nieces and nephews, and like how ten

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01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 1: year old communicate over text? So here are a few

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Speaker 1: texts from a ten year old named Levi to his cousin. Uh,

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01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 1: my parents cannot pass the vibe check. They made me

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01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:48,679
Speaker 1: take out my air pods. They couldn't pass the vibe check. Fuck. Yeah,

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01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:51,879
Speaker 1: it's a real screenshot from a ten year old texting

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01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 1: his older cousin. That sounds like me trying to write

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01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 1: as a as a ten year old, that's what I

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01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 1: could fast. They made me take out my hair pods.

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01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 1: They couldn't. I like that, he repeats, they could impass

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01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:11,679
Speaker 1: the He shocked. Although I guess as a ten year old,

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01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 1: you are trying to approximate like what older, cooler people say.

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01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 1: So maybe that's why it is what I would try.

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01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 1: Vibe check five chick. That's like one of our listeners

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01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 1: in when we were on tour in Chicago wrote, I

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01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 1: guess my lord is a vibe and it really made

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01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 1: me laugh. Um, all right, what are some tweets The

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01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 1: Drake gads be tweeted normalized faking your own death and

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01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 1: starting a new life as a mysterious but respected bartender

1252
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 1: in a quiet coastal New England town, which I think

1253
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 1: is good advice. Also, O'Connor tweeted, I missed my friends

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01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 1: but also absolutely do not remember who they are what

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Speaker 1: they look like. You can find me on Twitter, Jack

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01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 1: on Score, O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at

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01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 1: Daily zeke Geys. Were at The Daily zeitgeis on Instagram.

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01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 1: We have a Facebook fan page on a website, Daily

1259
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 1: Zycheys dot com where we post our episodes and our footnotes.

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01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 1: We're linkoff the information that we talked about in today's

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01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 1: episode as well as the song we ride out on.

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Speaker 1: And today we are going to write out on a

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Speaker 1: song recommended by super producer on a Hosnier. It's called Forever.

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Speaker 1: this morning. We'll be back this afternoon to tell you

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Speaker 1: When I wake up, no makeup, have naked. I feel

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Speaker 1: like I'm the ship part of my language. But hang

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Speaker 1: ups do not define the kids. No, why not flawless,

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Speaker 1: are the laundry list of all of life and kindnesses.

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Speaker 1: But I still sit tea and chant ome and lift

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Speaker 1: But no worry, I'm Gucci. My days are little jucy,

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Speaker 1: my dialogue little awkward. My idol still move me. My

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Speaker 1: life is a movie like Rahin and Mookie. I'm just

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Speaker 1: trying to do the right thing. Hope they did improves me.

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