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Speaker 1: Soon.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast with Jaguars senior writer John Osher.

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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome into this week's Ozone podcast. And I'm

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Speaker 2: excited for this guest. I've gotten to know him a

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Speaker 2: little bit over the last year, so I've spent some

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Speaker 2: time with him and his family the last spring, close

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Speaker 2: followers of the Jaguars. But no, I'm talking about second

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Speaker 2: year outside linebacker now, Trayvon Walker. First of all, I

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Speaker 2: appreciate you doing this, sir, Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: How does that sound second year rather than.

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Speaker 1: Rookie second year?

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Speaker 3: It definitely sounds a lot better than rookie. But you

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Speaker 3: know a lot of the guys in the locker room

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Speaker 3: still trying to try to joke around a little bit,

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Speaker 3: like I got three games until this year, until I'm

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Speaker 3: not a rookie anymore.

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Speaker 2: Oh, was that the rule?

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Speaker 1: That's what they say.

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Speaker 2: But they changed that rule from last year, right.

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Speaker 1: They supposedly did, but you know some guys still hang

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Speaker 1: on to it. With you. I just take it all in.

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Speaker 3: But obviously going into the second year, hearing second year,

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Speaker 3: it just means a lot of growth for me. And

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Speaker 3: obviously I'm in the stage of my career now. While

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Speaker 3: I'm just playing and not doing a lot of thinking

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Speaker 3: as I was my rookie year.

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Speaker 2: Gotcha in games? Do you feel that meaning just seeing

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Speaker 2: stuff that you've already seen now.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, I definitely say just from rookie year to

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Speaker 3: the second year. Obviously I've seen a good I've seen

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Speaker 3: enough of what can happen in the league, formations, shifts

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Speaker 3: I have some sort of idea of what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: Other than just being not there fishing blind, not knowing,

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Speaker 1: I can kind of predetermine somethings now.

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Speaker 2: How you know? Again, knowing you a little bit, You've

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Speaker 2: always been a mature kid. But in terms of just

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Speaker 2: difference in terms of just what you handle, how you approach.

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Speaker 3: I definitely feel like I've grown an area that I said,

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Speaker 3: I've grown a lot. Tremland would just have to be

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Speaker 3: my film study. Like I watched film. I used to

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Speaker 3: watch films, just my perspective on how I watch film

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Speaker 3: and the things that I'm looking for when I watch

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Speaker 3: more critical to the details on the things that I

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Speaker 3: all the excess.

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Speaker 2: It's something coaches talk about a lot that no matter

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Speaker 2: how we're prepared, somebody's coming out of college, it's rare

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Speaker 2: for pro athletes as rookies to know how to study film.

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Speaker 2: Did anybody specifically work with you on that to help

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Speaker 2: your player? Coach?

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Speaker 3: What I just say, like the coach, the coaches kind

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Speaker 1: And you know, obviously I watch like.

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Speaker 3: Team segments of things that we do practice segments and

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Speaker 3: like I had, some coaches make like some extra breakdowns

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Speaker 3: for me on ping ten second to seventh places. Just

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Speaker 3: a little indicator of small, small little things like that

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Speaker 2: I get this question all the time, and I don't

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Speaker 2: know how to answer it, but you know, in a

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Speaker 2: to have contact a whole lot, maybe what fifteen not

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Speaker 2: contact practices in training camp? How do you improve if

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Speaker 2: you're a defensive player from year to year? Is it

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Speaker 2: just working on pass rush vision? How do you try

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Speaker 2: to in the off season when you're trying to get better?

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Speaker 2: What are you doing?

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Speaker 3: I'd say for me, it just depends on kind of

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Speaker 3: that's things that I put on tape and that other

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Speaker 3: to the off season obviously work on mainly work on

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Speaker 2: Got You tell me about this team. You've been around

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Speaker 2: it now long enough to see differences. What do you

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Speaker 2: guys talk about when you're together in terms of what

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Speaker 2: you want to achieve as a team, is that something

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Speaker 2: you guys talk about a lot.

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Speaker 3: We all want to win, and that's something that coming

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Speaker 3: in from us playing with each other last year. We

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Speaker 2: Do you feel that it's it's been such a remarkable

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Speaker 2: growth in the last twelve games, you know, nine wins

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Speaker 2: dating back to last season, the only losses to Kansas

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Speaker 2: Anything to put on your finger, why or is it

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Speaker 2: just what you said? You're learning how to do it

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Speaker 2: and it takes some time.

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Speaker 1: It was definitely simple factor.

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Speaker 3: Yes, obviously us learning how to win, but also last

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Speaker 3: other now to what we all on the same page

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Speaker 1: Got you.

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Speaker 2: One question about sort of what you faced over your career.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious about, do you feel any more or any

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Speaker 2: different going into year two about the whole pressure of

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Speaker 2: the number one pick? It didn't seem like you focused

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Speaker 3: I say, the way did I just kind of like

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Speaker 3: deal with that situation is just continue to know why

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Speaker 3: the Jags brought me here. They brought me here to

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Speaker 3: But obviously I'm in competition with you, know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: all the edge rushers in the league. But first and foremost,

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Speaker 3: I'm in competition with myself.

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Speaker 1: So I got you.

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Speaker 3: I hold myself to a way high standard than anybody

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Speaker 3: just take full accountability, full accountability on things like that.

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Speaker 2: How do you and Josh handle the whole like all

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Speaker 2: you heard on Twitter about the Jags. What do you

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Speaker 2: is it more just hey, we can be the guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's never It was never about what people said

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Speaker 3: like things that we will always tell each other, like

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Speaker 3: we always just stay on each other, like just know

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Speaker 3: that you're him, know that you're that guy, Like you're

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Speaker 3: very capable of having fifteen twenty plus acts, Like we're

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Speaker 3: It's a lot of self talk within it. You just

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Speaker 3: have to tell ourselves that we are the best, We

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Speaker 2: Not that you needed a lot of guidance, because again

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Speaker 2: you came in with a very professional approach, But have

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Speaker 2: you learned anything from Josh who obviously it's a couple

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Speaker 3: I could definitely say I've learned a lot throughout Josh,

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Speaker 3: especially with me. He once as soon as I came

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Speaker 3: in last year, he took me right under his wing

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Speaker 3: and just everything that he knew from as far as

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Speaker 2: Feel like just part of adjusting to the NFL, just

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Speaker 3: Feel like he's been planning a lot into me that

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Speaker 3: now going into year two. Like he may have said

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Speaker 2: When you watch film from a player's perspective, what impresses

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Speaker 3: You watch him play Josh, He's he rushed rushes with

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Speaker 3: relentless effort. And relentless is a word that I've been

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Speaker 3: I won't say they don't have clean clean rushes, but

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Speaker 3: nine times out of ten, to just be off of

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Speaker 3: you being relentless, staying that after the quarterback. You might

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Speaker 3: not win on your first move, but as long as

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't see that many guys beat at this level.

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Speaker 2: Beat the guy right off the line.

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Speaker 1: Everybody is pretty.

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Speaker 2: Good, right, Juwan Taylor went agains him in practice some

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Speaker 2: I assume you'll see him a lot of Sunday. You've

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Speaker 2: known him for a while, Sir. I talked about that

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Speaker 2: matchup a little bit looking forward to.

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Speaker 3: That's something that I'm definitely looking forward to. Like I,

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Speaker 3: like you said, just me coming in as a rookie,

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Speaker 3: that's who offensive lineman. If I had questions about anything

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Speaker 3: that the offensive tackles will do, like gimmicks and things

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Speaker 3: like that, that was somebody I went to and asked questions,

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Speaker 3: not saying that he probably gave me all the game

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Speaker 3: that he knows, but he gave me enough game to

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Speaker 3: where I feel like, you know, I have a I

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Speaker 3: went against him enough as well to have an understanding

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Speaker 3: for things he do. Like a lot of people was

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Speaker 3: just now catching on to the stancey indicator with him

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Speaker 3: getting out of his set earlier. That's not That's something

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Speaker 3: I was seeing all last year as a Rickie first

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I'm definitely looking forward to this matchup.

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Speaker 3: And he's a great athlete, don't get me wrong, but

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Speaker 3: we definitely got to get out of it.

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Speaker 2: Did you guys yaw a little bit in practice? That's

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Speaker 2: not really your style anyway, right.

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Speaker 2: Now. Again, from talking to your family a little bit

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Speaker 2: And Thomas in this summer, I remember you telling me

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Speaker 2: Right, that's good stuff. All right, we'll get to the

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Speaker 2: other zone five. I'll get you out of here. What's

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Speaker 1: I'm not really a show guy.

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Speaker 2: Who's the you get that much chance to prove it?

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Speaker 2: Is there somebody on the Jaguars that you know has

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Speaker 3: I think d Will was a pretty good athlete at basketball.

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Speaker 2: You told me this summer that you had you gone

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Speaker 1: I definitely could have played in the league.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, I would have probably been that Draymond

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Speaker 2: I got you the song you're listening to right now?

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Speaker 3: I'm you know what I'm saying, I do some things

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Speaker 2: I Okay, this is a million dollar question. NOWT better

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Speaker 2: Be honest because I figured it was t Wig and

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Speaker 2: The Walkers, big Jaguars fans follow it to wonderful people.

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Speaker 2: Uh as is Trayvon. Trayvon, I appreciate you doing this.

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Speaker 1: Sir, thank you for having me