Speaker 1: Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No
Speaker 1: Sealers Podcast with your hosts now fuck that with your
Speaker 1: loaw glasses Malone. This is the thing about No Sillings, right,
Speaker 1: it's always being like just conversation this. I don't got
Speaker 1: no interview shit, Like we really just be popping it
Speaker 1: about popping shit, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Or nothing like.
Speaker 1: I try not to talk about daily topics. I try
Speaker 1: to wrap them up in greater conversations that's gonna matter
Speaker 1: over one hundred years because I feel like I can
Speaker 1: see if I had to view because it was every day,
Speaker 1: then I just can talk about what's going on every day.
Speaker 1: But if you if you're only gonna provide one podcast
Speaker 1: a week to somebody that's a listener of what you do,
Speaker 1: make it something greater. Yeah, I agree, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That makes all of sense. What's your favorite podcast?
Speaker 1: There's so many, bro, what's if it's one that's your favorite?
Speaker 3: I really rock with What the God Show?
Speaker 2: God the God?
Speaker 3: So who's that? Ray Daniels so informative?
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right out here see Ray today?
Speaker 2: Before we leave, it's gonna be tomorrow? Was it today? Tomorrow?
Speaker 2: I think it's tomorrow, so it's probably before we leave.
Speaker 1: So ray Ship is, Yeah, what's your favorite podcast?
Speaker 2: So that.
Speaker 1: My man, you know, it's crazy, Yeah, because people, but
Speaker 1: he was here Monday. He came Monday. Then he had
Speaker 1: to leave playing. He missed the playing at the Drive
Speaker 1: of Florida. Uh, my man, Taylor the spot he had
Speaker 1: to drive drove from here to Miami.
Speaker 4: I mean it's it's a drive, but it's not a
Speaker 4: terrible like now, yeah, but he white.
Speaker 1: You know, what's your favorite podcast?
Speaker 5: That's a hard question. I'll go with The Gods show.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 4: Like populating on around social media lately like heavier, so
Speaker 4: it's obviously getting more popular than what it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's your favorite pot bro?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Corey Holmes podcast. Corey Holmes podcast.
Speaker 4: Is that Corey holkom Yeah a that I definitely got
Speaker 4: to do joint to mess with.
Speaker 3: You know who he is.
Speaker 4: He's like a comedian, white dude, white comedian. He's hilarious
Speaker 4: and he interviews like a little bit of everybody though,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like from uh, he he'll
Speaker 4: do Sexy Red, he'll do Drew Ski, he'll do.
Speaker 2: You know, like an actor. I can't think of.
Speaker 1: But you know, like he's like wide range with but
Speaker 1: he you know, I'm working on starting my first what's
Speaker 1: your favorite podcast?
Speaker 2: Oh all the smoke, they can't hear me. It's loud enough.
Speaker 2: Shout out that that's Jacket and Mac.
Speaker 1: I'm going to start a basketball podcast and I'm only
Speaker 1: gonna talk to niggas that play great defense.
Speaker 2: Right, and.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be yeah, you know, but like even if
Speaker 1: I talk to people like my goal would be to
Speaker 1: talk about defense, it's not important. It's funny because in
Speaker 1: our group text, right, we'll be talking about stuff. But
Speaker 1: the more I study hoops, I'll be like, man, defense
Speaker 1: just it really matters. And it's funny because it's in
Speaker 1: our faith. Motherfucker say you defense win championships. But nigga
Speaker 1: be like, fuck all that man, niggas who got who
Speaker 1: get the buckets? Yeah, and so I'll be stuck. But
Speaker 1: Bear been trying to give me bearing shout out to
Speaker 1: Baron Davids. He's been trying to get me to do
Speaker 1: a podcast for years and we talked about doing it,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, if I did it, I would only
Speaker 1: talk about defense.
Speaker 2: I would never talk about scoring the ball.
Speaker 1: And I don't know how successful that is because you know,
Speaker 1: niggas don't like defense.
Speaker 2: Niggas don't like defense. Nobody even when you play who
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 4: That's the the part of practice you hate. Niggas gonna
Speaker 4: be slid and all that, you know, you know, just
Speaker 4: doing rebounding drills, boxing out, you know. But that's the
Speaker 4: gritty though, So that's the that's that's really because that's yeah,
Speaker 4: that's what it's about.
Speaker 2: That's where you get to That's where you get the results.
Speaker 4: Is when you get gritty when you're doing the boxing out,
Speaker 4: when you're doing the defensive slides, when you helping you know,
Speaker 4: your your man on defense or whatever, you know, trapping,
Speaker 4: you know whatever.
Speaker 2: It is better question for you because you're a pro.
Speaker 2: What's the equivalent of that in hip hop?
Speaker 3: For being a rapper?
Speaker 1: What's those things that niggas don't like to do? That
Speaker 1: is really the things that fundamentally make you a fantastic
Speaker 1: rapper at the end of the day. That's but most
Speaker 1: of the time technical, most of the time that's underappreciated
Speaker 1: in regular mainstream you know, people that love rap music.
Speaker 1: What's the most underappreciated thing that you have to practice
Speaker 1: doing that.
Speaker 2: The average rap fan to be like, man, I don't
Speaker 2: care about that shit.
Speaker 4: Right, was that?
Speaker 2: Dang?
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think. That's a great question. I'm trying
Speaker 4: to think.
Speaker 2: Because sometimes I want to think is.
Speaker 1: Bars Like I think everybody truly appreciates songwriting. I don't
Speaker 1: think it takes much to appreciate on the mainstream level,
Speaker 1: great song, right, But I think when you start getting
Speaker 1: somebody who actually saying something that's hella witting together, I
Speaker 1: don't think the average person really.
Speaker 2: They don't know.
Speaker 4: The average listener does not appreciate the technicality and the
Speaker 4: bars and the schemes and how you put the words together.
Speaker 2: There's it's like.
Speaker 4: You said, it's a niche following of fans, Like it's
Speaker 4: almost like the battle rap community or like certain is
Speaker 4: that like certain certain rappers are certain people like certain MC's,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Because of that, So I
Speaker 4: think that is definitely very underappreciated, because, like you said, songwriting,
Speaker 4: it's so wide.
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift is a great song. Yeah, like often, yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody is amazing, big number, you know, it's not everybody can.
Speaker 6: Mostly it's mostly the educated that appreciate those parts, even though,
Speaker 6: what is you know what.
Speaker 4: I mean, or just a student of hip hop or
Speaker 4: a student of the music, because like they're listening with
Speaker 4: a different ear. They're they're listening to be satisfied a
Speaker 4: different way when it comes to listening. You know, that's
Speaker 4: why we can appreciate scars. Now you see scar faces
Speaker 4: like getting of course.
Speaker 1: So no Saillings, gl Taylor on the boards, got the voice,
Speaker 1: a J.
Speaker 2: A J recording my Nigga e P did the whole project.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Manwest Monster real this ship just really as
Speaker 1: good as they can get if you listening, If you listen,
Speaker 1: if you listen, niggas like I don't hear it. So
Speaker 1: as a as a as a fellow disciple of cousin face,
Speaker 1: does it.
Speaker 2: Like when you see people like scarface? Man, you just
Speaker 2: notice right now?
Speaker 5: Bro?
Speaker 4: No, no, of course of course. And I think that's
Speaker 4: it goes back to what you said. We we listen
Speaker 4: with a different ear since whatever, since whatever we started listening.
Speaker 2: So it's it's different for us.
Speaker 4: So when it's almost like when you you know how
Speaker 4: you got those fans who listen to something and then
Speaker 4: they like it until it becomes mainstream and then they
Speaker 4: be like I don't like it no more because everybody
Speaker 4: likes that, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.
Speaker 4: But I think when when you love somebody like face
Speaker 4: and you love what he's what he has done for
Speaker 4: the culture, for music and the way he puts it together,
Speaker 4: and then you see people, it's a bittersweet thing because
Speaker 4: you like, man, I'm glad y'all recognizing and y'all realized.
Speaker 2: But it's like, is it too Yeah exactly, yeah exactly.
Speaker 4: It's like we've been trying to tell you that whatever forever.
Speaker 1: You know, you and you see him.
Speaker 2: Tiny des knew they needed this dude, so so.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's it's definitely. You know, you got those dudes.
Speaker 4: And then you got people also who try to like
Speaker 4: make fun or make downplay the greatness too, and that's
Speaker 4: more frustrating.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that is that.
Speaker 4: Comes with everything because again people have listen or they
Speaker 4: have pay attention. But man, I love to see it though.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: People been asking me and ship I saw somebody they
Speaker 1: was talking about his hat. Oh yeah, it's like that's
Speaker 1: why you're looking at his hat, bro, Like you're gay?
Speaker 2: Right? You like men bro? Right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: And they don't mean like you like men. I mean
Speaker 2: like you're dick.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't mean like it's actually like me, because that's
Speaker 1: just regular if you like me and you just gay,
Speaker 1: but like you, you're not that kind of game. You're
Speaker 1: a fucking asshole. I hate that we have used gay.
Speaker 1: We just you know what, I took that from gay people.
Speaker 1: It don't mean you no more. It means you the
Speaker 1: fucking a bitch. I think like how the LDBT, pure
Speaker 1: Ford the Rainbow for the word gay take that.
Speaker 2: That's not y'all no more. You just like me right,
Speaker 2: But you've been.
Speaker 6: Getting the calls too, man. I've been like, like I
Speaker 6: worked on Deeply Ruted. I did a lot of stuff
Speaker 6: on Deeply Ruted, so I gained more like I was
Speaker 6: a fan before I even met him, so to get
Speaker 6: to work on the project, and then more than anything
Speaker 6: to have a relationship like like a brother with him
Speaker 6: and talked to him several times a week. Like It's
Speaker 6: frustrating because a couple of people have been trying to
Speaker 6: book him in a for their annual thing and then
Speaker 6: they would kind of flake, but now it's like after
Speaker 6: they saw the tiny desk.
Speaker 3: Hey, bro, I'm really trying to get like I don't
Speaker 3: even want to call him for that, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean? So I feel exactly what you're saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, post a tiny desk.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to talk about this in his career
Speaker 1: because whatever happens post a tiny desk, it's gonna be different.
Speaker 1: That's like talk about Jesus post ad after like two
Speaker 1: hundred years after he died, and now you're it's a
Speaker 1: different Jesus. Because right now it's gonna be weird to
Speaker 1: see what's gonna start happening with scarface, because I think
Speaker 1: this is gonna keep infecting.
Speaker 2: People at the highest level. I think so, Like you.
Speaker 1: Can't if you're Jimmy Fallon, you can't see that not
Speaker 1: think to yourself, I need to have scarface on this stage.
Speaker 1: If you're the Grammys, you can't see this thing to yourself.
Speaker 1: I cannot have scar face on this stage again, like
Speaker 1: he deserves that type of time.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, what are you your scarface fan? Voice the
Speaker 2: Woe Face? What's your favorite scar face album?
Speaker 5: Before we go there? Do you think that it's It
Speaker 5: has a lot to do with the fifty years of
Speaker 5: hip hop? Though, No, I'm not gonna say, you.
Speaker 2: Know, play is that guy. Why y'all even advocate for that?
Speaker 1: Nigga fuck sat advocate for that. Somebody told me that
Speaker 1: one day, like Nigga, I'm God's advocate, Nigga Satan talking
Speaker 1: to me, I'm God.
Speaker 2: Fact though because I'm not, I'm not saying something negative.
Speaker 2: I'm the advocate. Yeah, I'm God. I'm the y'all advocating Satan.
Speaker 5: But you will have to admit there's more emphasis on
Speaker 5: the legends this year because of the fifty years of
Speaker 5: hip hop celebration.
Speaker 1: True, but I also think, yeah, I mean, I guess
Speaker 1: that is a door to the marketing. But if you
Speaker 1: look at juve so juvenile did folk you know they
Speaker 1: did tiny desk? It's fucking Juviie like age you talking like,
Speaker 1: do you want to see Juvie do the tiny desk?
Speaker 1: Or Sexy Red do the tiny desk?
Speaker 5: They want to see sexy Red.
Speaker 2: Don't nobody want to see sexy real do a tiny desk?
Speaker 3: I think I think with and being musical, but even.
Speaker 4: So, I think that n PR is trying to educate
Speaker 4: a little bit more by bringing on like some of
Speaker 4: the more whether it's the legacy acts, that's what they
Speaker 4: call them.
Speaker 2: If they really want to get bus, they bring the
Speaker 2: whispers out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because remember you're just sitting down, Like I said,
Speaker 1: you don't want to see sexy Red sitting down doing that.
Speaker 2: That probably would look crazy.
Speaker 1: So you need the talents that really kind of are
Speaker 1: speaking a certain life into people or just explaining certain things,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I'd like to see
Speaker 1: Aerosmith doing tiny des Steven Tyler sitting right there. I
Speaker 1: mean certain things you needed energy and that ain't where
Speaker 1: it's at. So, I mean, that type of platform was
Speaker 1: made for Scarface too, but.
Speaker 4: I do like it because it allows people to be educated.
Speaker 4: It allows you to really listen and hear, you know.
Speaker 4: I think that it's good for an artists like Scarface
Speaker 4: or any artists like you said that have bars or
Speaker 4: lyrics or whatever and they tell stories because you can,
Speaker 4: you know, sometimes and listening or passing people don't hear
Speaker 4: or catch everything. So it's an intimate It's kind of
Speaker 4: like the Unplugged used to be.
Speaker 2: They did that.
Speaker 1: It was crazy is we was talking about it and
Speaker 1: somebody was asking me about doing it doing that, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, you gotta have some records like that
Speaker 1: ain't no play platform, Like I would just do my own.
Speaker 2: No, you could do it for sure, but.
Speaker 1: I would do my funk it out, Yeah, I would do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what we got to do too. Like people be
Speaker 1: so caught up and like using brand.
Speaker 2: Yeah the brain, you don't need that platform. You can.
Speaker 2: You can get the homies and and.
Speaker 4: Create your own That's what I'm Yeah, you can get
Speaker 4: your band. And then I said, I stoup in front
Speaker 4: of the old schools and this is what I was thinking.
Speaker 2: This mind did tell me if it's crazy.
Speaker 1: I was like, we should go in the corner of Roscoe's,
Speaker 1: pay for everybody food and everybody eating. We just be
Speaker 1: kicking for about forty five minutes, just right, and the
Speaker 1: nigga just be like these niggas crazy, right, and just
Speaker 1: pay for everybody for See what hip hop used to do,
Speaker 1: players ship because it ain't been player lady. Nah, they
Speaker 1: luckiest the winner now because I be barbecuing at the Airbnb,
Speaker 1: hafing niggas can get see these and plates right. I
Speaker 1: feel like we got to go back to that star
Speaker 1: like hip hop really flash it not fly money, but
Speaker 1: like connecting the other.
Speaker 2: People and doing the ship that's above.
Speaker 1: And beyond and connecting with mother Fly like it's just
Speaker 1: being born. Like that's why Sexy where It is doing
Speaker 1: well because she's kind of exciting. She's fucking hilarious. She
Speaker 1: thinks she's sexy with glasses on. She barefoot and pregnant.
Speaker 1: She ain't playing by no rules.
Speaker 2: Right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And her songs are not bad, they're like decently written songs,
Speaker 1: and she executes because it's some excitement.
Speaker 2: But I think that's what's missing.
Speaker 1: I think it's like we have a barbecue out this
Speaker 1: mother like we talking about throwing for the West Coast
Speaker 1: win just fun ship where you bring California. It's important
Speaker 1: as hip hop we start bringing to town.
Speaker 4: But I tell you that all the time. That's why
Speaker 4: I'm such a fan of you and your music, because
Speaker 4: you give us the authenticity uh or or that authentic
Speaker 4: la you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.
Speaker 2: That's what we was.
Speaker 4: Most people was raised on that West Coast, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: The sound, the what.
Speaker 4: You rap about, the storytelling, even the visuals is very
Speaker 4: like entertaining it. It brings me back to like the
Speaker 4: old school, like dog dog, what's it like?
Speaker 2: Dogs?
Speaker 4: That how they put it together and it's just dope.
Speaker 1: I think we should bring it even more, though not
Speaker 1: just in the music, because I think the music we
Speaker 1: do have the benefit to where it is spoiled because
Speaker 1: we can't go back and listen to the chronic right,
Speaker 1: doggy style, dog fool whatever, you know, any of the
Speaker 1: que records, any West Side, mac Tier Records, records. But man,
Speaker 1: imagine if we start taking I think we have to
Speaker 1: take the culture right and put it on full display,
Speaker 1: like in Atlanta.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so everywhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, like we go to France, like right now,
Speaker 1: going to even in France in January, but imagine next
Speaker 1: year when we go, because that's somewhere we should go
Speaker 1: at least once or twice a year.
Speaker 2: But when we go, we bring California every time.
Speaker 4: And you know how much they would love that.
Speaker 2: People don't get they don't get that. They don't get
Speaker 2: to enough of the music, you know, I mean, but
Speaker 2: just the culture time.
Speaker 4: And that's what I loved about certain artists like Nas
Speaker 4: or Common, you know what I mean, like.
Speaker 2: Type of queen.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you be ready, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 4: Like I didn't even like I always tell people like
Speaker 4: even comment with Resurrection, like he would talk about like
Speaker 4: eating that gi or Donald's are going to Giordonalds.
Speaker 1: And you you like, yeah, you know, you know.
Speaker 4: I always tell people with NAS like he didn't bring
Speaker 4: you to like New York, he didn't bring you to
Speaker 4: he didn't bring you to even Queens. He brought you
Speaker 4: to the forty first side in Vernon, like he brought
Speaker 4: you on that block.
Speaker 1: And if you play, like when you listen like one
Speaker 1: of the few things stall is a hell of fun
Speaker 1: with NAS And I'm like NAS is great, like wanted greaty,
Speaker 1: but this nigga that is no lie. I parked outside
Speaker 1: that ship and I was like, Oh, this ship really
Speaker 1: makes sense. God damn ain't nothing like when you play
Speaker 1: that music in that area and you be like, oh
Speaker 1: this man.
Speaker 2: Like I remember I was working on some stuff and
Speaker 2: I was in the rider.
Speaker 1: I was in my rider and I was playing let
Speaker 1: Me Ride coming Down Long in front of the swat.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this ship makes sense. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that when that music makes sense. And you're right, that
Speaker 1: is when I was over there playing that ship one day,
Speaker 1: I'm riding out colle Is playing deeper than rap.
Speaker 2: It was incredible. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: This motherfucker really yelled it it ain't it ain't the hood, right,
Speaker 1: being meth became kind of close to the hood. But
Speaker 1: that early raw ship is all college, all off that bit.
Speaker 2: It was rich.
Speaker 1: It was like it was just like I don't know
Speaker 1: how to explain it, but it was just like it
Speaker 1: filled the air with that im Beyonce of like, oh
Speaker 1: this is I was in Birdman's car. I was in
Speaker 1: bird and one of the Birdman's cars, I think because
Speaker 1: I was in Miami, and it was something with the
Speaker 1: top that I don't I think it was a roll.
Speaker 1: It was something nice and I'm rolling in a diggie.
Speaker 1: I got some diggies on and I'm rolling playing ridging
Speaker 1: and I was deeper than rapping, deep rap, and I
Speaker 1: was just like, oh, this ship makes sense, Like if
Speaker 1: you play like that's one thing I really prided myself
Speaker 1: in doing. When I went to New Orleans, I was
Speaker 1: playing four hundred degree. I was like, Okay, that's my
Speaker 1: real check. My real check is I go to your
Speaker 1: town and play your ship and look around. If it
Speaker 1: don't look right, ain't right. Yeah, that ship is just crazy,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that's shit crazy. So I
Speaker 1: feel like that's the ultimate test in hip hop where
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, artists ain't really taking that serious.
Speaker 2: But I think we had the space too in hip
Speaker 2: hop where.
Speaker 1: We need to combine ghettos because I think we just
Speaker 1: people kind of getting tired of like, yeah, we got
Speaker 1: enough of you niggas were gonna listen to the African people? No,
Speaker 1: for real, Like we have enough niggas finished. So it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we need to come together because we can't let y'all
Speaker 1: go that way.
Speaker 4: Because the is different too, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And that's why I think afrobeat and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: It's definitely way more festive.
Speaker 4: It's just it's a you know, it's like how people
Speaker 4: used to listen to reggae, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It's like you might not I mean some people do,
Speaker 4: some people don't, but they don't. You know, not everybody
Speaker 4: understands everything someone is saying, but it's just a feeling
Speaker 4: that you you.
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying. You know what. I think what
Speaker 2: Bob Marley said one thing.
Speaker 4: About music, when it hits you, you feel no pain
Speaker 4: or something like that.
Speaker 2: Afro beat ship is ella festive. That's what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: you just want the sauce. That's all right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's crazy because Tech nine hit me. He's like, Bro,
Speaker 6: I know this's gonna sound crazy, but I need you
Speaker 6: to give me, uh uh one of those beats of afrobeat,
Speaker 6: but make it dark. And I'm like, bro, yeah, exact
Speaker 6: opposite exactly, but I made it work.
Speaker 3: So yeah.
Speaker 1: See, tuba is the tuba is that secret instrument that's
Speaker 1: rich and dark, but it could still kind of get you,
Speaker 1: like tuba can go anyway. Like it ain't too many
Speaker 1: niggas use tubas and song rich boy song at that.
Speaker 5: Yeah boy and looking Yeah, that was asking for that
Speaker 5: he had.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, bro, you have no idea.
Speaker 2: I want a song that we and dry.
Speaker 3: I know it sounds crazy, It's like that's Tech though.
Speaker 1: That is fucking funniest fuck man. Tech is the funniest
Speaker 1: nigga in the world. Here another nigga that's funny that
Speaker 1: people just don't take. They take entirely too serious.
Speaker 2: And that na.
Speaker 1: Yeah he be coming up with Yeah, fucking fool them.
Speaker 1: Niggas all got jokes.
Speaker 5: He mimics what I was saying earlier about sustainability. Yeah,
Speaker 5: he has a like fan base and he knows what
Speaker 5: they love, but he care about the world.
Speaker 1: Like you know what's funny, he cared a little bit
Speaker 1: more than everybody could imagine.
Speaker 2: I know that sounds crazy the world. Yeah, he really
Speaker 2: fan base.
Speaker 1: So it's weird, right because text fan base is full
Speaker 1: of people who like who feel rejected by the world,
Speaker 1: but they're still an underlying desire to be accepted.
Speaker 3: So that's why they're so protected, and that's why don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly tech.
Speaker 1: Like, well, no, kind of like, but he is, so
Speaker 1: how people see the identity in him is different, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But I think there's a way
Speaker 1: to do it all to represent people to have nots
Speaker 1: and taken with you. It's just you got to keep
Speaker 1: it authentic too. You have to keep it authentic.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The more I look at all of the scarface shit, man,
Speaker 1: it just get crazier and crazy. It's just like people
Speaker 1: hitting me about scarface. You know how fucking irritated I am.
Speaker 1: Like people texting me then me, gee man, scarface tiny
Speaker 1: this man, you know, and they trying to tell me
Speaker 1: about scarface. And I'm looking at y'all like I've been
Speaker 1: talking about so I've been telling y'all about Scarface this
Speaker 1: whole time, and now y'all gonna tell me about Scarface.
Speaker 1: Now I've been fucking with scarf, nigga. Know you have
Speaker 1: not been fucking with Scarface, nigga, your damn lie.
Speaker 5: But on your Are you on the record for saying
Speaker 5: that though, because a lot of people bring up individuals,
Speaker 5: especially artists in the time that it's not popular on multi.
Speaker 1: Multimore occasions I have there's a real thing going on
Speaker 1: in my mind, and I know EP thinks I'm crazy
Speaker 1: and a lot of people think I'm crazy.
Speaker 2: I've said this on multiple platform ones. I really think
Speaker 2: Scarface is God m the voice No, no God.
Speaker 5: I mean he is a God. He is God God.
Speaker 5: I agree.
Speaker 2: He can go there like not like black Man God like,
Speaker 2: I mean like God.
Speaker 5: Okay, do you feel like we're all We're all essence
Speaker 5: of God.
Speaker 2: Not like I am a God like Scarfaces.
Speaker 1: God like came and got reincardinated, like God said, I
Speaker 1: wanted to participate in hip hop and reincardinated himself into
Speaker 1: a form.
Speaker 2: And to be of hip hop.
Speaker 5: Okay, just so he got of hip hop.
Speaker 1: He just like I wanted to be a rapper. He
Speaker 1: knew it was coming. He's like, I want to participate.
Speaker 2: Like how God did the idea? What Jesus is?
Speaker 1: God reincardinated himself as somebody to live as a human
Speaker 1: in that time, and then he became Jesus. Interesting, that's
Speaker 1: the idea. That's that's the idea. God was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm so bored up here. I want to
Speaker 1: live this experience.
Speaker 5: Don't they say he's the king of He's one of
Speaker 5: the King of the South.
Speaker 1: Nobody would ever said that. That's some that Nigga is
Speaker 1: on a whole another he's king of the South.
Speaker 2: That's a joke.
Speaker 5: But I've heard I've heard that that's some regular Yeah,
Speaker 5: but that's some regular human ship.
Speaker 2: That Nigga way better than that. That's because.
Speaker 5: I've heard those two. Matter of fact, give told me
Speaker 5: a story. He said that before Tip was able to
Speaker 5: even claim that he was the King of the South,
Speaker 5: he had to make those calls to Scarface and to
Speaker 5: give m M.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even heard that.
Speaker 3: I heard Face.
Speaker 2: Be cared about being a king.
Speaker 5: One more person. It was big boy.
Speaker 2: But who the fuck would even like that? I mean,
Speaker 2: that's great for Tip.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I expect Tip that I agree Tip can
Speaker 1: be the scar face on her.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you I've had this conversation. You think I'm playing.
Speaker 4: There's people who say scar faces better than jay Z.
Speaker 1: Yes, a lot of people like I wouldn't say he's
Speaker 1: greater because jay Z has no No.
Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm sing.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I wouldn't say he's greater. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. I wouldn't say he's greater than whole, but
Speaker 2: I like him better than Jay Is this.
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: I'm telling you like, well, no, because because the truth,
Speaker 1: because greatness is measured completely different than better.
Speaker 2: Better is a preference, right, Greater is.
Speaker 1: You, there's things you'll achieved. So is their greatest Like
Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg is the greatest hip hop artist. Everybody argue
Speaker 1: me down, but if you understand what hip hop is
Speaker 1: as this cultural street em thing, there's no greater representation
Speaker 1: that's flew further. Now does he If he the best rapper?
Speaker 1: Is he the that's These are different conversations.
Speaker 4: He's the most popular rapper with that, Yeah, and I
Speaker 4: think that he's like McDonald's you know, yeah, And anywhere
Speaker 4: in the world people know.
Speaker 5: Snoop is there listening to the Snoop today?
Speaker 3: No, but I don't. I don't.
Speaker 2: But I don't even know if that's really.
Speaker 1: I don't think everybody's listening to Aerosmith today or Michael
Speaker 1: Jackson today, they are, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Like I think it's not as many people listening to
Speaker 1: the Taylor Swift, you know what I mean. Like, I
Speaker 1: don't think the same Pierce people listening to Taler Swift
Speaker 1: is going out to buy a new Aerosmith album. I
Speaker 1: think music and relevance is kind of like like minded
Speaker 1: to a degree.
Speaker 2: Like jay Z.
Speaker 1: If jay Z came out with an album, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, he'll do well, but he probably not
Speaker 1: gonna do as well as Drake I think. But but
Speaker 1: but I think the truth, But I do, But I
Speaker 1: think the true flossing point is that he's doing well
Speaker 1: right now, thirty years later. That's just like I don't
Speaker 1: hello crazy, but no scarface. Like I've said this on
Speaker 1: major platforms multiple times. I think God looked at hip
Speaker 1: hop coming and on the horizon he was like, I
Speaker 1: want to experience that he formed himself into a human
Speaker 1: and that scarface that would be perfect because you couldn't
Speaker 1: be in it without you know, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: and then like it'd be certain things, he says in raps.
Speaker 1: I've talked about this, but the more significant points cuz
Speaker 1: I will never violate the code to the streets and
Speaker 1: I will never make a promise that I know I
Speaker 1: couldn't keep.
Speaker 2: Who the fuck talks like that?
Speaker 1: I never heard history of niggas say I'll never make
Speaker 1: a promise that I know I wouldn't keep Before, I
Speaker 1: never heard a street nigga in a history of street
Speaker 1: niggas say I will never make a promise that I
Speaker 1: know I couldn't keep. That's like something my dad told
Speaker 1: you that I know. I'm talking about, like a street nigga,
Speaker 1: Like my dad is different, not like somebody who was
Speaker 1: in the streets. I mean like a father told his
Speaker 1: son that, not the general public. I'll never disrespect my mom.
Speaker 1: So he's more of a messenger, know even first, That's
Speaker 1: why I think it's like Jesus, where you could look
Speaker 1: at Jesus as a messenger, but he just formed himself
Speaker 1: to be in Jesus was a messenger.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, I think Scarface was like God. He was
Speaker 2: like a messenger.
Speaker 1: He just was like, I wanted to experience hip hop
Speaker 1: like the rest of everybody else, So he put hisself
Speaker 1: in form and made Scarface. I'll never disrespect my mama.
Speaker 1: Never disrespect her mama neither. I never turned my back
Speaker 1: on Jesus. Them is not gangster the rat words.
Speaker 5: But do you think Scarface has ever done anything that
Speaker 5: was questionable? What do you mean in general?
Speaker 2: You know him questionable about.
Speaker 5: What as a black man, as as be.
Speaker 1: Talking about his son. This nigga is different, man. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you, I listen to everything wrong. Of course, everybody.
Speaker 2: Could do wrong.
Speaker 5: Jesus could do it.
Speaker 2: No, but he put himself into human form like Jesus.
Speaker 5: So when he put himself into human form, then he
Speaker 5: was able to commit.
Speaker 1: The wrongs to make a hip hop story understood, like
Speaker 1: you not like like to chase people?
Speaker 5: Where came in?
Speaker 2: Who makes like that?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 2: God, that's just some god writing. Ship niggas got to
Speaker 2: do is collected and file.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who talks like that? Nigga sounds like his lyrics
Speaker 1: being a Bible. That's Scarface lyrics sound like they be
Speaker 1: in the Bible. That about myself though, but that's because
Speaker 1: you are a disciple of scar myself because I got
Speaker 1: I got some bible now like my raps. But that's
Speaker 1: when you know you got your greatest scar face moment,
Speaker 1: like face that one. Now, that's how I feel about
Speaker 1: Carl Wise Glass. What's your favorite glass of songs?
Speaker 2: Car Wise? Because it's the most scarface song I got.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it just it gets crazy and crazy and people
Speaker 1: laugh when I say that, right, They be like, man,
Speaker 1: you sold crazy And I know like this nigga G
Speaker 1: But I swear I believe God would put himself into
Speaker 1: human form right just to have human experiences. What's it
Speaker 1: like for them that let me go be one of them?
Speaker 1: So who wouldn't want to be a part of hip hop?
Speaker 1: You're telling me God look at hip hop and he's like, man,
Speaker 1: this is kind.
Speaker 2: He's for sure. Wouldn't being disco? This go is lame?
Speaker 5: Well, especially if you look at now. I mean, hip
Speaker 5: hop is not just a genre anymore. Hip Hop is
Speaker 5: involved in every aspect of think.
Speaker 1: He saw that coming. He was like, I need to
Speaker 1: go see what this is like because let me go
Speaker 1: experience it. And then he kind of became a child.
Speaker 2: And he greets his mother. Listen to this nigga man.
Speaker 5: Just and and his voice does have that god like
Speaker 5: like rumble.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you it sounds like if God was talking,
Speaker 1: and it's funny because he laughs and ship.
Speaker 2: But I'm not sure. I'm not joking. You really do
Speaker 2: believe this nigga? Listen, who talks like this? Who the
Speaker 2: fuck talks like that?
Speaker 5: So when you close your eyes and you think about,
Speaker 5: like prayed, you picture Scarface.
Speaker 1: Because I would never tell God to reveal himself to me,
Speaker 1: because I wouldn't even what if he was like a nigga.
Speaker 1: I knew I'd be so mad if it was somebody
Speaker 1: I was. I already know that. I see all these motherfuckers.
Speaker 2: I know them.
Speaker 1: Mass It's always the people that's the nicest to me,
Speaker 1: your evil ass. But for God's like when people be
Speaker 1: like Scarface ship always like when I used to listen
Speaker 1: to untouchables, like some of that ship sounded like I
Speaker 1: was reading the scripture in the Bible, Like why does
Speaker 1: this sound like this?
Speaker 5: Amazing?
Speaker 2: Why is it soothing? My soul? Just going to shoot
Speaker 2: at these niggas? I feel so much better as a human.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I'm not sure I've been thinking about it.
Speaker 2: I'll be looking and when I talk to him, and shit,
Speaker 2: I'll be like.
Speaker 5: So scarface is your god.
Speaker 2: All all of our god, and he just put himself
Speaker 2: in human form.
Speaker 5: Sometimes when people are getting ready to go, let me
Speaker 5: just stop. I'm gonna be honest here. If they're getting
Speaker 5: ready to go hit a leg or do something that
Speaker 5: they have no business doing, and then they turn on
Speaker 5: some music.
Speaker 1: But you wouldn't play scarface. You're gonna stop. Scarface will
Speaker 1: make you stop doing some dumb ship. You'd be like,
Speaker 1: I'm not finna, I would never do.
Speaker 2: Such a thing he's got.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Scarface the only thing I know that
Speaker 1: I could play that'll make me stop doing some dumb ship.
Speaker 2: But it's still be hard and street. You'd be like, man, exactly.
Speaker 1: Like you could have a child and be playing scarface,
Speaker 1: and you'll be thinking yourself like, man, let me not
Speaker 1: lie to my son. You know you a parent be
Speaker 1: lying to their kids. Shit, You'll probably play scarface like
Speaker 1: you know what, son, this is what happened.
Speaker 2: I was a piece of ship to your mother.
Speaker 5: So we just need a little scarface. And that's what
Speaker 5: the guess. That's where why we did these where it's
Speaker 5: coming in at this point.
Speaker 2: They needed that. But I don't think he knows, because
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 5: Because Jesus face knows he's God.
Speaker 2: Jesus didn't know he was God. Remember when he was
Speaker 2: in the Pros, he was praying up.
Speaker 5: So he was God.
Speaker 1: The story, the idea, The idea is that God wanted
Speaker 1: to experience life through human form, and then Jesus was
Speaker 1: born amazing right, and so he put hisself in so
Speaker 1: he could see what niggas had to go through, and
Speaker 1: he was like, this is how you do this, garface,
Speaker 1: and then so scarface could be the same thing.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: It sounds crazy, but it's probably true, and he would
Speaker 1: know he I ain't God. You wouldn't even know though,
Speaker 1: So that's why I'll be thinking about I was gonna
Speaker 1: give it to that.
Speaker 2: Let's start what you're doing?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: What's what's man? Just working?
Speaker 4: Just dropped a new single, farming and with a video.
Speaker 4: Make sure y'all go check that out.
Speaker 2: What did I have?
Speaker 1: I just stop because I've been out here. When you
Speaker 1: drive him, think of that title forman, what does that really?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 2: I'm glad.
Speaker 4: It's like so I game right, video games? So and
Speaker 4: gaming terms, Farming is a term that people use and
Speaker 4: usually RPGs or certain games when you kind of like
Speaker 4: it's the grinding part of the game really, when you
Speaker 4: like you might.
Speaker 2: Grind your attributes.
Speaker 4: When you're building up your attributes, you farm, you know, like,
Speaker 4: so you're whether it's XP, whether it's building your attributes
Speaker 4: to get you stronger, to maybe to mod your weapons,
Speaker 4: so you're at your your weapon, Like if you're playing
Speaker 4: with guns, you might farm to get materials for your
Speaker 4: weapons to make your weapons stronger. So that's what farming is.
Speaker 4: So and I'm farming the rap game, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So that's what I'm like, I'm in the
Speaker 4: film with the laser trying to so I'm just building
Speaker 4: up on my ship. I'm grinding right now. I'm far,
Speaker 4: I'm in materials. I'm farming experience to make my attributes
Speaker 4: and make what I'm doing stronger and better to present,
Speaker 4: to present to the world or to take on whatever
Speaker 4: comes my way.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's what.
Speaker 1: I know that I saw the Like I bet you
Speaker 1: it's some kind of witty shit ye on, some gaming shit, right,
Speaker 1: I ain't game. I really gained when I was living right, right,
Speaker 1: But like we all have. That's why I said, we
Speaker 1: all gamers, but but you know, you just stop making time.
Speaker 1: But what I do appreciate and I think is important
Speaker 1: because I've made this argument. So people like, oh, how
Speaker 1: do people game right when they get older? And I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: it's not gaming anymore. It's really socially acting with you
Speaker 1: what people you fuck with or just the other world. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and how does that like really like come in to place,
Speaker 1: you know what.
Speaker 4: It's great that you said that, and it's great that
Speaker 4: you know that, you know, because I have so many
Speaker 4: homies who are older, whether they're my age or older
Speaker 4: or younger, you know what I mean. But they use
Speaker 4: gaming that's like it's therapy almost. It's therapeutic for them.
Speaker 3: Like I have a.
Speaker 4: Homie who who you know, he killed somebody, did some
Speaker 4: time in jail, came home and he's here now and
Speaker 4: he you know, talks to his psychiatrists or to his counselors,
Speaker 4: and they tell him, make sure that you game, Make
Speaker 4: sure that you spend time on that game. Whatever it
Speaker 4: takes to make you to get your mind and the
Speaker 4: right places and to you know, kind of sued whatever
Speaker 4: you're going through. If that's what you used then yeah,
Speaker 4: release it and use it. And you know, I had
Speaker 4: another homie who was like, he you know, he's married
Speaker 4: and he got you know, a wife, and you know,
Speaker 4: sometimes your significant other or whatever. You know, they be like, oh,
Speaker 4: you always on the game. But he was like, the
Speaker 4: game for me, especially now because you can be in
Speaker 4: parties and chats and stuff.
Speaker 2: He was like, it's like going to the bar. He
Speaker 2: was the He's like, it's my bar. I watched I
Speaker 2: watched the young homies bro.
Speaker 1: They be hooping on two k yep and they be
Speaker 1: like the player be fresh, they be like and they
Speaker 1: play with other people. So I was thinking, right, and
Speaker 1: this is something for you. I had this thought, and
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought it up. And I didn't even
Speaker 1: know how this conversation was gonna segue, and it made
Speaker 1: me remember, I think there's so much more space in
Speaker 1: gaming for ways to interact with other people as a part.
Speaker 2: Of a game.
Speaker 1: I don't think even the gaming world has done a
Speaker 1: great enough job with some of the ideas we could
Speaker 1: do to make some dope shit. I guess a lot
Speaker 1: of fly shit. I mean that could happen that that's
Speaker 1: got to reach. And I think it's important that hip
Speaker 1: hop reaches I've been this has been my pushing. We've
Speaker 1: talked about this, right, is hip hop invading more spaces
Speaker 1: outside of just we don't.
Speaker 2: Need another liquor right, No, that's a fact. We don't
Speaker 2: need another clothing line. No, it's a lot of them.
Speaker 1: Cool, Yeah, but we need to get into I've been
Speaker 1: saying it's killer MIC's, miss Abishi currency, Chevrolet game stall
Speaker 1: game having more things what we start to mvoy.
Speaker 2: There's still no hip hop game.
Speaker 4: I know, and that's crazy to me, you know, as
Speaker 4: a gamer, as somebody who games, and you know, I
Speaker 4: take you know, I it's it's also therapeutic for me.
Speaker 4: Like I'm in the studio, like my thing is I
Speaker 4: wake up, write raps, play the game, get off the game,
Speaker 4: write more raps, play the game. Like it's kind of
Speaker 4: like I'm back and forth all day. That's what I do,
Speaker 4: because you know, I might burn myself out, or I
Speaker 4: might be like, well, let me free my mind a
Speaker 4: little bit and I'll play the game. And then I
Speaker 4: might be playing. As I'm playing, come up with some
Speaker 4: crazy idea. Turn on a mic. Oh, let's turn cut
Speaker 4: on the beat. You know what I'm saying that's just
Speaker 4: that's just me though, that's.
Speaker 2: How I do it.
Speaker 4: But one thing I noticed as I as I play
Speaker 4: these games, and I play all types of games across
Speaker 4: the board, I know some people, you know, we were
Speaker 4: talking in the group chat and I was like, you know,
Speaker 4: people be playing like games, but they will only play
Speaker 4: like two K and Call of Duty or something, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, like.
Speaker 2: Something to pop that game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, only right.
Speaker 4: And it's that's kind of how people listen to music too.
Speaker 4: Sometimes they only listen, they don't dig beyond it. But
Speaker 4: make a long story short, As you play games, I
Speaker 4: see there's not many black characters and video get in.
Speaker 2: There's not many.
Speaker 4: Lead roles of like you playing a video game with
Speaker 4: a hero or or somebody who is like saving the
Speaker 4: world or doing whatever.
Speaker 2: It is that's a black character. So that's the part.
Speaker 2: That's what this podcast is all about right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think that's very important that we do that.
Speaker 2: Like that we have people that look like us.
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