1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 2: Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: all of you hanging out with us. Buck still on 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 2: the French Riviera as he will be all week. I 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: am in Washington, d C. And I will be with 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 2: you solo all week long. Appreciate all of you hanging 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: out with us. We have got a lot to discuss, 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 2: in particular the decision that now looms for President Trump 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: as he has to decide what involvement, if any, should 11 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: the United States undertake to help Israel when it comes 12 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: to taking away the nuclear weapon option once and for 13 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: all from Iran. The President just put up this message, 14 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: we now have complete and total control of the skies 15 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: over Iran. Iran had good sky trackers and other defensive equipment, 16 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: and plenty of it, but it doesn't compare to American made, 17 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: conceived and manufactured stuff. Nobody does it better. Keyword there 18 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: to me, we now have complete and total control of 19 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 2: the skies over Iran, suggesting that the United States is 20 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: consulting with Iran at least enough for the Royal we 21 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: to be used there in some context, there are a 22 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 2: lot of different stories out there. I would say Russia 23 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: withdrawing support for the Islamic Republic is pretty significant. And 24 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to open up phone lines and let you 25 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 2: guys way in because you may disagree with the take 26 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: that I'm about to give you. Let me also let 27 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: you know we got some great guests coming your way. 28 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 2: Couple of Senators Ted Cruz at the bottom of this 29 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: hour from Texas, at the top of the third hour, 30 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: two pm eastern, Senator Rampaul of Kentucky. 31 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: And then in studio with me here in Washington, d C. 32 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: At two thirty eastern, the Chairman of the FCC, Brendan Carr. 33 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 2: So we're gonna have some interesting conversations with those guests. 34 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 2: But right off the top, President Trump has a very 35 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: important decision to make, according to reports out and I 36 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 2: will play audio of I will play audio of this discussion. 37 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: But we do not have meaning, we do not have 38 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: the ability to stay completely out of that this conflict 39 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 2: if we want to eliminate Iran's ability to have nuclear 40 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 2: weapons going forward. In particular, Iran has buried much of 41 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: their nuclear material deep inside of a mountain, and in 42 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: order to reach that location, we need to use United 43 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 2: States bunker busting bombs that would require us to get involved. 44 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: Let me play this from CNN Caitlin Collins explaining exactly 45 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: what would be necessary in order to once and for 46 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 2: all destroy Iran's nuclear weapons capabilities. 47 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 3: Cut seven tonight the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Desinia, who 48 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 3: says strikes in Iran have set its nuclear program back, 49 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 3: and I'm quoting him now a very long time, but 50 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 3: based on CNN analysis of one of the secretive Iranian 51 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 3: nuclear facilities, eliminating the program altogether could prove incredibly difficult 52 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 3: without more time, larger bombs, and assistance from the United States. 53 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 3: The pot Out plant, the nuclear plant, has been a 54 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 3: key target of Israel's over the last several days, and 55 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 3: we have new satellite images that show just how hard 56 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 3: it could be to take out and why. If you 57 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 3: look at this, you see there's a security perimeter protecting 58 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 3: what appears to be a heavily forty five mountain layer, 59 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 3: and it's believed that hundreds of centrifuges placed nearly three 60 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 3: hundred feet under the ground are working to enrich uranium 61 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 3: that could be ultimately used for nuclear bombs. 62 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: Okay, So that is the background on why we may 63 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: have the ability to do something that Israel does not 64 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 2: when it comes to the technology and power of our 65 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 2: bombs that they do not have. Now, the decision that 66 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: Trump is going to have to make is should we 67 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: use American assets bombs to once and for all eliminate 68 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: Iran from being. 69 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: Able to get nuclear weapons. 70 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 2: Secondarily, should we okay or nod in some way assent 71 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: towards Israel's desire to take out the Ayatola Kamini and 72 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 2: once and for all remove the Ayatolas from leadership of Iran, 73 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: which they have had since the nineteen seventy nine revolution. 74 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:04,799 Speaker 2: Here is Benjamin Yahoo cut twelve talking about assassinating the Ayatola. 75 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:10,119 Speaker 4: US officials tell us that the president flatly rejected a plan, 76 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 4: an opportunity that you that the Israelis had to take 77 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 4: out the supreme leader. 78 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 5: Do you understand his concern? 79 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 4: My understanding his concern is that this would escalate the 80 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 4: conflict beyond where it is already. 81 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: It's not going to escalate the conflict. It's going to 82 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: end the conflict. 83 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 6: We've had half a century of conflict spread by this 84 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 6: regime that has terrorized as everyone in the Middle East 85 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 6: is bombed, the Aramco oil fields in Saudi Arabia is 86 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 6: spreading terrorism and subversion and sabotage everywhere. That's the forever war, 87 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 6: is what Iran wants, and they're bringing us to the 88 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 6: brink of nuclear war. In fact, what Israel is doing 89 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 6: is preventing this, bringing an end to this, this aggression. 90 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 2: Okay, So the double question that Trump has to answer 91 00:05:55,320 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 2: as we sit here today is should we give assistance 92 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: in the way basically of these bunker busting bombs that 93 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: would wipe out nuclear capabilities of Iran that are deeply 94 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 2: buried underground, and reportedly Israel does not have the ability 95 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 2: to do it based on the weaponry that they control. Second, 96 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: should we in any way nod a sent or maybe 97 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 2: even potentially be involved in the removal of the Ayatolas. 98 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 2: This is split very reasonable, very rational people on both 99 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 2: the left and the right. Jade Vance just put out 100 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: a long piece saying that I'll read to you at 101 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: some point, but essentially saying President Trump should be trusted 102 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: to make this decision, and that Trump has been consistent 103 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 2: that Iran can never get a nuclear weapon and anything 104 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: that he does related to that will be in his 105 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:59,799 Speaker 2: decade long career as a politician, further echoing the comments 106 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 2: that he is made throughout that Iran can't get a 107 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 2: nuclear weapon. Here's my answer. I think we should once 108 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: and for all wipe out Iran's ability to have nuclear weapons. 109 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 2: I think that if that requires us using our bunker 110 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 2: bombs to wipe out that capability, I think we should 111 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 2: do it. Second, I think the Ayatolas have to go. Now, 112 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: those may be controversial opinions. Some of you may disagree 113 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: eight hundred and two eight two two eight eight two. 114 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 2: We will take your calls to agree or disagree. You 115 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: can also talk back. We know, and let me lay 116 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: out why I believe this is necessary. Every time that 117 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: we have negotiated with Iran, especially with the deal that 118 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: Obama struck with Iran, the Iranians have been unwilling. 119 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: To accede to the agreements. 120 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: They always cheat, they always try to get nuclear weapons. 121 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: I don't blame them, because the Iola see nuclear weapons 122 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 2: in the same way that Kim Jong un and North 123 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 2: Korea did, which is, once they have them, the danger 124 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 2: of trying to take them out becomes so pronounced that 125 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: they will be in power effectively forever. I understand why 126 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 2: Iran wants nuclear weapons. It's a rational decision for the 127 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: iotolas to pursue them. It's why I don't believe that 128 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: Iranian Iotola leadership is ever going to give up the 129 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: pursuit of nuclear weapons. There is no doubt that they 130 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 2: are pursuing them. There is no doubt that they have 131 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: an incentive to one day have them because it increases 132 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 2: the overall power and stability of the iotolas. So to me, 133 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 2: this is a bit like starting to treat an infection 134 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 2: for antibiotics and then you stop. Iran is right now 135 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 2: on the precipice of how having the iotola is thrown 136 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: out of control of the country and also of never 137 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 2: being able to have nuclear weapons for the life of 138 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 2: anyone listening right now. I think we have the ability 139 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 2: to ensure that if we do not do it now. 140 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 2: I think using my antibiotics example, if you start to 141 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 2: take antibiotics and you have an infection and then you stop, 142 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 2: you can actually strengthen the infection because you didn't do 143 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: enough to knock it out. We have to, in my opinion, 144 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 2: and I know it's a tough call, and this is 145 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 2: why presidents age so much when they're in office, because 146 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 2: making tough calls is the ultimate job, and there are 147 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: good people arguing on both sides of this issue from 148 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:52,239 Speaker 2: a variety of different perspectives. I think reasoned, articulate, logical 149 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: cases can be made for either decision. To me, if 150 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: you believe that Aron wants nuclear weapons and has been 151 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 2: pursuing them for a long time, which I do, then 152 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 2: you have to, in my opinion, wipe them out once 153 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 2: and for all. Now, some of you out there are saying, well, 154 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 2: this sounds too similar to Iraq, and we will talk 155 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 2: about it during the course of this program. I oppose 156 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 2: the Iraq War back in the day twenty some odd 157 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 2: years ago, because to me, it never made sense to 158 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: connect Saddam Hussein to nine to eleven, and we were 159 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: the aggressor going into Iraq, and the attempt to build 160 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 2: a new Iraqi government and the trillions of dollars that 161 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 2: we spent and the loss of men and the loss 162 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 2: of basically everything without much benefit to me felt very 163 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: similar to Afghanistan. So what would later happen in Afghanistan? 164 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 2: I do not believe that the United States should take 165 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 2: the next step of having boots on the ground and 166 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 2: trying to pick who the leaders of Iran are going 167 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 2: to be going forward. There seems to be some optimism 168 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 2: that the Iranian people might well support their royal family, 169 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 2: which was deposed and kicked out of the country in 170 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: the nineteen seventies. And again, if you go back and 171 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: watch those YouTube videos they're up, you can go check 172 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: them out. Iran, for a Middle Eastern country, used to 173 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: be quite free. Instead of walking around in he jobs 174 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 2: and burkas, women were walking around in high heels and skirts. 175 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 2: This was a jewel of Middle Eastern economy. They have 176 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 2: fallen behind. Saudi Arabia has passed them, Qatar has passed them. 177 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,719 Speaker 2: All of these other countries that used to look up 178 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 2: to Iran have now ended up surpassing Iran. Persians proud 179 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 2: people that live there. I think think economically, this is 180 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 2: what I love about what Trump is doing. He's not 181 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 2: focusing on religion, He's focusing on economic opportunity. That doesn't 182 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 2: mean there's something wrong with the religious focus. But Christians, 183 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 2: Jews and Muslims have struggled to get along, as you 184 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 2: well know, in the Middle East for a very long time. 185 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: Trying to reconcile those religions can be challenging. Instead, to me, 186 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 2: what Trump seems to have been successful in doing is saying, hey, 187 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: let's focus on commerce, let's focus on capitalism, let's focus 188 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 2: on growing everybody's economy together. And that seems to have 189 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 2: been received very favorably. Trump has done a phenomenal job, 190 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: in my opinion, and his team on Middle Eastern relationships, 191 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 2: building them. The Middle Eastern countries, by and large, Saudi 192 00:12:55,480 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 2: Arabia the largest and most powerful of them. They want 193 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 2: the Ayatola's gone. They actually support Israel in the United States, 194 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 2: if we make this decision, it's going to be a 195 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 2: hard one. 196 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: It's going to be a difficult one. We'll talk about this. 197 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 2: I'll certainly talk about it with Ted Cruz and Senator 198 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: Ran Paul who are both going to be on this 199 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 2: program and will take some of your calls and some 200 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: of your talkbacks on this decision. But to me, this 201 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 2: is a hard decision. But presidents are elected to make 202 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: hard decisions. Trump, in my opinion, should should wipe out 203 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 2: the nuclear capabilities once and for all, and I think 204 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: should quietly assent to the idea from Israel of taking 205 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 2: out the Ayatolas who are persecuting authoritarians who do not 206 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 2: have I don't believe substantial support inside of Iran. I 207 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 2: think that what replaced them, while potentially uncertain, would be 208 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 2: better and safer for all of us than what is 209 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 2: there now. America first does not mean America alone. We 210 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: have to make rational decisions in the larger world about 211 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 2: how to ensure that we are safe. And I do 212 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 2: not believe that if we allowed Iran to ever have 213 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: a nuclear weapon that would make the world safer. We've 214 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 2: already got one crazy man, Kim Jong un, with nuclear weapons. 215 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: I don't think it's a good decision to allow Iran, 216 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 2: run by frankly religious zelic crazy people, to have a 217 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 2: nuclear weapon. We have seen what happens when religious zelate 218 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: crazy people from the Middle East decide to trade their 219 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 2: focus on us. It's nine to eleven. 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Thank you for your attention to this matter. 247 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 2: So there is Trump giving, at least for now his 248 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 2: position on the ayah Toola. We are not going to 249 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 2: take him out and kill him, at least not for now. 250 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: Is that speaking on behalf of Israel? Who I don't know? 251 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 2: Or is that just speaking on behalf of the United States? 252 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 2: That is interesting. Trump has also said that Iran just 253 00:16:52,960 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: now must engage in unconditional surrender and so so this 254 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 2: thing is getting spread in a major way the story here. 255 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: So I'm in reacting in real time reading the president's comments. 256 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: We'll ask Senator Ted Cruz about these because he is 257 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 2: scheduled to join us in just a couple of minutes. 258 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: And I would say, this feels like a major point 259 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 2: of decision is close. So will we go in on 260 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 2: the Ayatolah? Will we take out the nuclear weapons? When 261 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 2: Trump says unconditional surrender, what does that mean that he 262 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 2: wants Iran to do put down their weapons and not 263 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 2: fire back? I presume, But what are the terms of 264 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 2: unconditional surrender on the Iranian side? Does that mean that 265 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 2: the Ayatolas are giving up power? What does that look like? 266 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 2: We will discuss with Senator Ted Cruz and we'll take 267 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 2: some of your reactions as well. First day of Summer 268 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 2: Saturday officially. 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While we wait on Senator 303 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 2: Ted Cruz to join us, several of you wanting to 304 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 2: weigh in let's go to James in Texas, which guy. 305 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 7: James, Yeah, play. I would like to both applaud excampt 306 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 7: and applaud your your anti bonic. 307 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 8: Thought on. 308 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, thank you. I think he was breaking up 309 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 1: there a little bit. 310 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 2: He was using the antibiotic analogy to say that he 311 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 2: agrees by the way I told you I would read this. 312 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back to calls in a sec here, 313 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 2: but let me hit you with what jd Vance posted. 314 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: I'm seeing this from the inside, and I'm admittedly biased, 315 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 2: but there's a lot of crazy stuff on social media. 316 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: Again, this is jd Vance. 317 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 2: So I wanted to address directly some things on the 318 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: Iran issue. First, Trump has been potus has been amazingly 319 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 2: consistent over ten years that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. 320 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 2: Over the last few months, he's encouraged the Foreign policy 321 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 2: team to reach a deal with Iran to accomplish this goal. 322 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 2: Presidents make clear Iran cannot have uranium enrichment, and he 323 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 2: said repeatedly this would happen one of two ways, the 324 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 2: easy way or the other way. Then there's an explanation 325 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 2: of uranium enrichment, and he says, continuing the President shown 326 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 2: remarkable restraint, keeping our militaries focus on protecting our troops 327 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 2: and protecting our citizens. He may decide he needs to 328 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 2: take further action to end Iranian enrichment. That decision ultimately 329 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 2: belongs to the President. And of course people are right 330 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 2: to be worried about foreign entanglement after the last twenty 331 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: five years of idiotic foreign policy. But I believe the 332 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: President has earned some trust on this issue. Having seen 333 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 2: up close and personal, I can assure you he is 334 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 2: only interested in using the American military to accomplish the 335 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: American people's goals. Whatever he does at is his focus. 336 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 2: That is Jade Vance, Greg Import, Saint Lucy Florida, what 337 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 2: you got for us? 338 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 8: I'm a listener. How are you so I'm gonna have 339 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 8: to disagree with you on behalf of dropping the bunker Buster. 340 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 8: I mean, if there's so many people that are just 341 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 8: you know, in the shadows, that are quietly supporting this, 342 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 8: then I think they need to help provide some bombs. 343 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 8: I don't think sending in a major bunker Busters and 344 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 8: great idea. We've got to remember there was the interview 345 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 8: back in ninety four with Dick Cheney U during the 346 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 8: whole desert storm and kreate situation. We were asked, you know, 347 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 8: why didn't we take out some dam at the time, 348 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 8: because he's said the word. That would be a bad idea, 349 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 8: because I think he destabilize the Middle East, all right, 350 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,239 Speaker 8: as much of a dictator as he is, you destabilize it. 351 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 2: Okay, I understand that argument. But let me go back 352 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 2: to the bomb. What would you do? Do you believe 353 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 2: that Ron wants nuclear weapons? 354 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 8: I do absolutely believe that they want nuclear weapons. 355 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 2: Okay, so I don't think why, I'm sorry, let me 356 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: just ask. Yeah, But so if it is required to 357 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 2: stop them from getting nuclear weapons that we use, because 358 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: they have buried much of their their production way underground 359 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 2: to try to prevent it from being reached by bombs, 360 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 2: and if only the United States has the technology and 361 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 2: the bomb making ability to reach that, would you leave 362 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 2: it alone and let Iron continue to try to produce 363 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 2: a nuclear weapon. 364 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 8: No, I'm not saying leave it alone. I'm seeing right now, 365 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 8: we know that the Atola is extremely his health is 366 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 8: beginning to fade. He's just eighty seven years old. Okay. 367 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 8: We know that the regimes getting ready to collapse, especially 368 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 8: with all the you know Israeli, you know, strikes and 369 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 8: everything we see that, you know, they're getting ready to fall. Okay, 370 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 8: the leadership is collapsing. You know, it's just not good. 371 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 8: So let's just blow out all of the tunnels and 372 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 8: anything that leads down into there, kill it off, all right, 373 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 8: so that way they can't get down into it. By 374 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 8: that by the time they're able to get access to 375 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 8: that again, there's already going to be a regime change. Okay. 376 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 8: I think we should allow the region to deal with 377 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 8: this issue. I think, you know, I'm just a carpenter 378 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 8: from you know, a small town of Pennsylvania. Originally I 379 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 8: removed to for Saint Lucy about a decade ago. All right, 380 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 8: but we're tired of the doom and gloom and the 381 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 8: constant shelling in the Middle East. 382 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 2: Okay, thank you for that, Thank you for the call. 383 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 2: Thank you for the call. I'm going to go to 384 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 2: work calls. My concern, candidly is that if we don't 385 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 2: end Iran's ability to undertake enrichment to try to produce 386 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 2: nuclear weapons, if we don't end it once and for 387 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 2: all now, we're going to be back at this exact 388 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 2: same situation in the years ahead. And that's why I 389 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 2: use the antibiotic example. If you've got a sickness and 390 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 2: you start to treat it with antibiotics, and you actually 391 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 2: don't fully wipe it out, you just take a couple 392 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 2: of pills or for a few days, then the virus 393 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,239 Speaker 2: actually can come back much stronger than if you go 394 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 2: ahead and wipe it out once and for all right. 395 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 2: That's my analogy of what I'm concerned of if we 396 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 2: don't take out Iran once and for all right. Now, 397 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 2: Ken in Southeast Michigan, Ken, what you got for us? 398 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 5: Well, I think it's the essential that we don't underestimate 399 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 5: how to vote. The leaders of our Iran are to 400 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 5: their religious conviction. 401 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 9: Yes, they will use the nuclear bomb the second they 402 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 9: have it. They truly do believe, kill the infidel, kill 403 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 9: the non believer. This is their funnel metal belief system. 404 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 5: They will use the weapons. They're not the Chinese, they're 405 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 5: not the Russians, they're not the Koreans. They will use it, 406 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 5: and we must stop them no matter what it takes. 407 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: Thank you for the call. 408 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 2: That's my concern for people out there who say, Okay, 409 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 2: why do we care if Iran gets a nuclear weapon? 410 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 2: I understand why Iran wants a nuclear weapon because the 411 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 2: Iotolas believe that, much like Kim Jong Un, that will 412 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 2: keep them from ever being replaced. That is a logical 413 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 2: goal on their side. But also we know that Muslim 414 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 2: fundamentalists who are religiously motivated are not necessarily going to 415 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 2: engage in rational behavior, and they may decide at some 416 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 2: point in time to actually fire a nuke and try 417 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 2: to wipe out Israel. They may decide at some point 418 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 2: in time to unleash that new nuclear arsenal on other 419 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 2: countries around the world. I'm nervous about Kim Jong un 420 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 2: doing it. I wish he didn't have nuclear weapons. I 421 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 2: think America would be safer. I think the world would 422 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 2: be safer. Senator Ted Kruz with us now. He's just 423 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 2: coming off the Senate floor. I know this is a 424 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 2: tough call, and he may not have been expecting that 425 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 2: this was going to emerge as the tough time that 426 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 2: we have now. 427 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: To make this call. 428 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 2: But what do you think America should do as it 429 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 2: pertains to Iran given what's going on right now? 430 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 10: To be to be honest, Clay, I don't think it's 431 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 10: a tough call at all. I think we should stand 432 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 10: unshakably with the state of Israel. I think it Iran 433 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 10: acquiring a nuclear weapon is the most acute national security 434 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 10: threat facing the United States today, and I think Israel 435 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 10: acting decisively to take out Iran's capability to develop a 436 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 10: nuclear weapon is overwhelmingly beneficial to America. It makes us 437 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 10: safer because I think if the Iotola were to acquire 438 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 10: a nuclear weapon, the risks are unacceptably high that that 439 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 10: that the Iotola would use that weapon and actually kill 440 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 10: millions of Americans or millions of Israelis, And that's not 441 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 10: a risk that we should allow. 442 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: I agree with that. 443 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 2: In particular, we're diving into the decision that Trump may 444 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: have to make. If you were president right now, or 445 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 2: if the President called and asked for your advice, if 446 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 2: we need Israel does, if they need our bunker busting 447 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 2: bombs in order to get to some of these nuclear facilities, 448 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 2: should we should we give that assistance to Israel if asked? 449 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 2: In your mind, second part of this, should the Ayatolahs 450 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: be removed in some way, either allowing Israel to do 451 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: it or potentially America being involved. How would you handle 452 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 2: those two questions? 453 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 10: So let's break them down one at a time. So 454 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 10: right now Israel is conducting the military strikes. The American 455 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 10: military is not conducting them. We are assisting with intelligence. 456 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 10: We're helping Israel with missile defense in Israel because Iran 457 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 10: is firing ballistic missiles and trying to kill as many 458 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 10: civilians as possible in Israel. And I would note there's 459 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 10: a huge difference between Israel's attacks, which are targeted military 460 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 10: attacks taking out the senior leadership of their military who 461 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 10: are charged with conducting the war, and also taking out 462 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 10: their nuclear facilities. In contrast, i Ran is trying to 463 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 10: kill civilians as many as possible. I do not believe 464 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,959 Speaker 10: under any circumstances we should see American boots on the ground. 465 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 10: I don't think our military is needed to be on 466 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 10: the ground here. I think Israel is capable of doing this. 467 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 10: The one exception is the question you asked of bunker busters, 468 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 10: and in particular, most of the nuclear facilities Israel is 469 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 10: taking out quite effectively right now. The one major exception 470 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 10: is a facility that's called FORDA, and FORDA is built 471 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 10: into the base of a mountain, and it was deliberately 472 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 10: built to make it very difficult to bomb, and Israel 473 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 10: lacks the technical capacity. They don't have big enough bunker 474 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 10: busters to bomb and hit Fordau, UH, whereas America does. 475 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 10: And and so that's the one aspect I think there 476 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 10: is a serious argument. I've long argued that America should 477 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 10: be willing to provide those bunker busters because Fordau was 478 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 10: designed to help Iran. That's where they're conducting their most 479 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 10: sensitive nuclear research, and it was designed to help them 480 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 10: get a nuclear weapon, which which they intend I believe 481 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 10: UH to be able to use. And and the Iotola 482 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 10: chance death to America and death to Israel, and I 483 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 10: believe him, and and so I think it is it 484 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 10: is very worthwhile UH to to do what is necessary 485 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 10: to prevent them from having a nuclear weapon that that 486 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 10: could help them make death to America and death to 487 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 10: to to Israel much more of a reality and and 488 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 10: and be used to commit UH murder on on a 489 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 10: massive scale. Now on the second question about regime change, 490 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 10: in my view of the world would be much better 491 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 10: if the Iotolas were no longer in charge of Iran. 492 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 10: I think the the Iatola is a theocratic zealot. He 493 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 10: refers to Israel as the little Satan. He refers to 494 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 10: America as the Great Satan, and unquestionably Iran would be better, 495 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 10: Israel would be better, America would be better if the 496 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 10: Iotola were not in charge. I don't think that means 497 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 10: we should invade Iran and try to topple the Iotola, 498 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 10: but I think we should use every tool we have, 499 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 10: in particular economic sanctions and pressure. And indeed, this military 500 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 10: campaign directed at stopping the nuclear program I think is 501 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 10: weakening the regime as well, and so we should certainly 502 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 10: cheer if the Iatola, if the regime falls, But whether 503 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 10: it does or not, the objective of Israel's attack here 504 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 10: is not regime change, but it is to stop Iran 505 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 10: from getting nuclear weapons. 506 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 2: If Natyahu asked for the ability to kill the Ayatola, 507 00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 2: should Trump, in your mind give that nod, even if 508 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 2: we're not directly involved. 509 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 10: You know, look that that's a difficult question. I talked 510 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 10: about it on the latest episode of my podcast Verdict 511 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 10: with Ted Cruz, and we talked about it at some length. 512 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 10: There has been reporting. I don't know if this is accurate. 513 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 10: I don't know independently, but I've read the newspaper stories 514 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 10: that say the net and Yah who wanted to target 515 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 10: the Iyatola, and the Trump White House asked them not to. 516 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 10: I don't have a reason to doubt or dispute that 517 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 10: that reporting, and listen, I think it's a close call. 518 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 10: Generally in warfare, nations refrained from targeting heads of state. 519 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 10: It's also complicated by the Iyahtola being simultaneously a religious 520 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 10: figure and taking out a religious figure that there are 521 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,239 Speaker 10: real risks of that, there are risks of making him 522 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 10: a martyr and and inflaming things further. So I think 523 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 10: it is a reasonable decision to say, rather than targeting 524 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 10: the Iyatola himself, who's a you know, an old man, 525 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 10: that what they're doing in Israel is doing it with 526 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 10: amazing precision. Is they're taking out the senior military leadership. 527 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 10: They're taking out taking out the head of the IRGC 528 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 10: and the chief of Staff and in fact then the 529 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 10: next chief of staff. They keep taking out the senior 530 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 10: leadership of the military that is number one in charge 531 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 10: of waging the terror war. Iran provides ninety percent of 532 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 10: the funding to Hamas and ninety percent of the funding 533 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 10: to Hesbelah, and they're taking out the senior leadership that 534 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 10: are directing the missile strikes on Israel that are directing 535 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 10: the nuclear program, they're also taking out the nuclear scientists. 536 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 10: I think it makes sense for the attacks to be 537 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 10: directed at removing their ability to wage war against Israel 538 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 10: into wage war against America. I will tell you also, 539 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 10: it is a dangerous time. It's a dangerous time for 540 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 10: the people of Israel. I spoke with a friend of 541 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 10: mine on Sunday whose mom is in Jerusalem, and he 542 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 10: said his mom like, nobody's able to sleep because they 543 00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 10: wake up at two and three in the morning every 544 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 10: night night with with air rate sirens going on, and 545 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 10: they have to rush to the bomb shelter. So I mean, 546 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 10: it is intense when a civilian population is facing constant 547 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 10: missile strikes, and there have been significant fatalities, and there 548 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 10: may be substantially more so the people of Israel in 549 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 10: harm's way, but Clay also our servicemen and women. We 550 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 10: have a large number of servicemen and women that are 551 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,280 Speaker 10: in the Middle East, and I think it is exceptionally important. 552 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,479 Speaker 10: I spoke with President Trump on Sunday and I called 553 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 10: him just to say that I thought he was doing 554 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 10: exceptionally well and standing with Israel and his leadership was 555 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 10: really important, and I said, in particular, thank you for 556 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 10: making unequivocally clear to Iran that if they attack and 557 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 10: kill US servicemen and women, that they will face very 558 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 10: significant retaliation from the United States. I think that is 559 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 10: protecting the lives of our servicemen and women, and that 560 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 10: is what a strong commander in chief does. That's what 561 00:34:58,800 --> 00:34:59,439 Speaker 10: Trump is doing. 562 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 2: Senator Ted Cruz, we appreciate the time, know how busy 563 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 2: you are. Thanks for hopping on. 564 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 10: Thanks my friend, God bless We'll. 565 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: Continue to take your calls. 566 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 2: Eight hundred and two A two two eight A two 567 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 2: My thanks to Ted Cruz's major decision coming from President 568 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 2: Trump as to what he should do in Iran reports 569 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 2: that he has a cabinet meeting with all of his 570 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 2: top advisors at one pm Eastern in the White House, 571 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 2: just down the road from where I am right now, 572 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 2: to potentially make a decision about whether or not to 573 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 2: allow those bunker busting bombs to be used, potentially maybe 574 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 2: also to decide what to do with the Ayatola. And 575 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 2: we will keep you updated on all of this, which 576 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 2: may well be being determined during the course of today's program. Also, 577 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 2: Senator Ran Paul and FCC chair and Brendan Carr scheduled 578 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 2: to join us in the third hour, but this upcoming 579 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,320 Speaker 2: hour no guests at all will dive into this story 580 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 2: in greater detail. Allow you guys to weigh in. You 581 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,959 Speaker 2: can also give us talkbacks eight hundred two two two 582 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 2: eight a two And we will continue as the President 583 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 2: faces one of the most consequential decisions in foreign policy, 584 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 2: maybe the most of his early tenure in term two. 585 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,879 Speaker 2: So we will discuss that, break it all down for you. 586 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,919 Speaker 2: Appreciate all of you listening. Tough decision. Should we use 587 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 2: our bunker busting bombs, that's a tough phrase to say, 588 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 2: on the relier weapons? And what about regime change? Should 589 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,720 Speaker 2: we be involved in that in a way, we'll continue 590 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:45,879 Speaker 2: to discuss with y'all.