WEBVTT - Non-Fiction 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:04.280 You're tuned into the Gangster Chronicles. Well, James McDonald, REXI 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:08.160 re Jr. And Allan Tomanso on the Digital Soapbox Network, 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:12.320 a material witness on an aggregated battery, I was a 0:00:12.400 --> 0:00:15.040 hang gun and um, they believe this might be in 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:23.680 retaliation to her testimony. Welcome to another episode of Gangster Chronicles. 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:26.880 This is Alex Alonso and I'm sitting here with two 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:29.840 brothers who are the co host of the show. Regie, right, 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:33.680 big James, and thanks for being here, fellas. 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We're gonna read all the comments 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:08.640 and questions on there, and we're gonna start off with 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:11.880 our first question of the of the day, and the 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:16.280 first one is how did the Blood verse crypt beef begin? 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:20.480 What sets and what issues started the beef? Now, this 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:22.640 is something that I actually wrote about in my master's 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:24.760 thesis when I was going to USC. I kind of 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:28.600 tried to uncover the history of how this all started 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:32.000 and what got it going, and what years it got going, 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:35.720 and what neighborhoods were setting it off. And I found 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:41.520 out that nineteen nine was the year that Raymond Washington 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:44.600 and about maybe ten eleven twelve other dudes on the 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:48.840 East Side got that whole crypton going. But at the time, 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:53.160 there were other neighborhoods that existed that weren't Crip or 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:58.040 blood like, for example, um, the Pirrous the West Side, 0:01:58.080 --> 0:01:59.760 well they called the West Side pi us now, but 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:03.280 the rules around Pirous Street in nineteen nine doing that 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:06.120 thing on the West Side. Yeah, and then and then 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:08.400 the East Side came out shortly after the West Side 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:13.239 came out. This is around seventy. Athens Park Boys existed 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:18.240 around the same time, UM Your Boy, the Miles they started, 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:23.280 Um the Figure Roll they started to Figure Roll Boys. 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:26.600 They were out around n seventy the Shock Boys was 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:30.000 out around this time, all these neighborhoods, they weren't crip 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:33.800 or blood, they were just all these different neighborhoods scattered 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:37.600 throughout Los Angeles. Raymond starts his thing, and the first 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:39.760 thing he starts to do is say, I want to 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:43.480 start converting some of these neighborhoods into crips. And some 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:47.600 neighborhoods turned the crips and some don't. Uh. They went 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:50.480 he went to Athens, they said we're good. They went 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:52.440 to the brims, they said we're good. And in fact, 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:55.480 the crips we're hanging out on par rou Street in 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:58.480 nineteen seventy. Back in the day, the crips and the 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:01.320 pirous were kind of functioning thegether. But then there was 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:05.400 a little riff and eventually that conflict started. Now the 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:09.280 conflict really comes in. In nineteen two, I tracked the 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:14.360 first homicide. L A brim dude named Country Little Country 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:17.360 named Fred Garrett was shot and killed in December of 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:21.440 seventy two. And that's when everything goes hey wire. That's 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:24.240 when all these non crip sets start to say, then 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:28.880 these these crips is really pressing the line, do you 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:30.799 want to say something? Now? I was I was just 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:34.160 thinking was at the time when Raymond Washington was shot 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:40.040 behind that. Raymond Washington was actually shot before seventy two. 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:44.640 He was shot when it was pre crip. He hadn't 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:46.720 even created the crips yet because he was hanging out 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:50.720 with the Avenues. Now, Raymond Washington looked up to Craig Munson, 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:54.840 and this was sixty seven, sixty sixty seven, sixty eight. 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:58.160 Craig Munson had the Avenues with his brothers and a 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:02.240 whole bunch of other dudes Victor Adam, Donny Boy, Uh, 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:05.760 Teddy Bear. They were the Avenues. And then Raymond was 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:08.040 like a youngster hanging out with the avenues and he 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:11.920 had got shot around that time. So um, that shooting 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:15.320 of Raymond Washington happened prior to him creating the Crypts. 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:17.760 In fact, him hanging out with Craig Munton is the 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:19.839 reason why he started the Crypts. And that's why that's 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:22.679 one of the stories I get from my uncle uh, 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.840 because he used to be my oldest uncle was a 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:29.280 slaws some boy when they were just saying slats and 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:33.200 he was a big he was a demon. My uncle 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:38.520 t was hanging with the avenues. My uncle rabbed and 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:42.200 then I think Morcle Chris they were shack boys, and 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:44.880 a lot of the shack boys. When the game banging 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:47.640 started over there, like the kitchen crypts and all of that, 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:52.040 some of the guys went to Swans. The shack boys 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:56.240 they converted back across Central and they were Swans and 0:04:56.760 --> 0:05:00.120 my uncle then was still Crips and they were like 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:03.279 with the Kitchens. And the reason why I know that 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:05.640 is because my family have been living on eighty person 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:12.120 Hooper for since nineteen sixty three and they're still there 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:16.040 right now in today. And my uncle t was one 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:19.200 of these guys that was hunging, hanging with Raymond Watson 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:24.880 to them, uh big Teddy. Um. I know all of 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:28.680 these guys from them coming to my grandfather's house. We 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:31.240 was little kids. I remember all of these guys coming 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:34.800 through there. I remember Teddy because Teddy was a big 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:39.440 old fat dude, but he was solid. And then the 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:47.480 Munson's were around the corner, Teddy, Craig Robert. Uh yeah, 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:49.840 they was around the corner you walked straight up through 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:54.159 the alley. Actually they baby brother Runt was my best 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:57.719 friend and he was the smallest out of all of them, 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:00.760 but he was a big swollen look young coming up too. 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:04.480 But he was from Kitchen Crypt and me and him 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:07.599 were from different size. But I got a lot of 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:10.480 stories listening to them. The oldest brother that was doing 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:16.080 life in the penitentiary, um from from Teddy. Teddy was pimping. 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:20.320 They were more into themselves than really on the game, 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:22.919 banging tips. Is this before you became in mom, Piru? No, 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:25.240 I was still I was a little blood. I was 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:28.600 a little bit cat when me and Runn started hanging 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:32.400 together and I was from the mob. Run was from Kitchen. 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:35.520 I used to give my homeboys from the hood to 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:38.440 come all the way. We rode our bikes, said eighty 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:44.159 firston Hooper fighting against the eight nines with Runt because 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:47.600 his homies were scared of the nineties Coast crips. And 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:50.920 we would go to Drew and fight the cripts with Runt. 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:53.800 So he was fighting You were Piru and fighting with 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:56.880 the Kitchens against the eight nineties. He was He was 0:06:56.960 --> 0:07:00.120 my like blood. Did you ever feel like maybe I 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:03.240 should be from from where run from? No? Because the 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:07.239 homeboys rode with me. We we got on our bikes 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:11.160 and road to come. I mean l a to fight 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:13.520 with run what years was this going on? This was 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:23.600 seventy seventy seven. Damn James got some history, right, Yeah, 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:25.760 we went and we was going to school with him, 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:29.480 and so by us going to going to school and Run, 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:33.560 I mean I went to Drew and and Run was 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:36.920 one of my friends that kept cats away from me. 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:39.200 When I had went to Drew Junior High. Why was 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:40.600 you going on with the Drew and you was living 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:43.800 because I was kicked out of Compton Unified, so my 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:46.160 grandfather and then lived over there. So I went to 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:49.960 Parmarade and I went to Drew, I went to I 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:53.560 went to damn every high school, Lock High, and went 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:58.640 to Fremont and I just didn't last long. So but 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:01.920 he was my friend the way of until he got killed. Now, 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:03.480 before we moved on to the next topic, I just 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:05.480 want I just want to know a little bit more 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:08.640 about about Run. You know what type of guy he was, 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:10.800 because eventually he grew up to be a kind of big. 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:13.280 He was a very big dude. If you ever seen 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:17.800 anybody chiselm you wouldn't even think he was built like Now. 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:20.560 You know who trained him though, right, his big brother 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:25.240 what they had so many weights in the yard and 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:28.640 by him he was stronger than his brother. He was 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:34.880 stronger than Teddy, and walking about, Craig was solid. And 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:38.400 then the only one that never lived wigs. The other brother, Carlton, 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:42.000 the light skinned one. Well, they had another brother named Salim. 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:45.760 He lifted. And then the oldest, the oldest brother was 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:48.559 Joe tall. He real tall. Also, I don't know, I 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:52.080 don't think Joe lifted. Salim lifted. Joe was Joe was, 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:55.800 he was, He was well built. He wouldn't know skinny cat, 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:58.560 None of them was really skinny. But Carlton. Can you 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:02.680 believe seven brothers though, and one family. Yeah. And then 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:06.760 and their mama was was with the business. Yeah, Their 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:09.800 mama was a solid woman. And and and she that wouldn't. 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:12.440 I just seen Teddy not too long ago over there, 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:15.160 you know, Teddy into the low Riders and jury. When 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:18.680 you see Teddy, you think this catch just just way 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:21.640 down with gold and they they always been real cool. 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:24.079 We was a little catch, and they looked out for us. 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:31.040 And uh my uncle's uh Bubba and all of those 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:35.040 guys Bubba doing life and Pendent Independitentiary right now from 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:38.520 over there. Um, it was so many of those guys 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:41.360 that we talked about right now, I know I know 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:44.040 of all of them. Now. The second part of this 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.640 question is what sets and when did she started to 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:50.600 beef um. Back in seventy seventy one, it was just 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:54.720 west Side Crib, east Side Cript, Compton Cript. That was it. 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:58.160 But then they were starting to splint her off sets. 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:01.440 The folk trade Gangsters, they must have came out in 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:05.760 like seventy two, the eight eight Avalons came out, and 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:08.720 those would be some of the oldest sets. Kitchen Crip 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:11.840 is real old. They go back to probably seventy two. 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:15.400 And then in terms of the sets that eventually became bloods, 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:19.320 you had the l A Brims they became bloods, the 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:23.280 Pirus became bloods. The Denver Lanes became bloods. Were the 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:27.040 bloods pretty much, I think to my knowledge, the Bottoms, 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:30.199 the twenties and all of that. They started first they 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:33.800 was blood and then it trinkled coming up towards us, 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:37.800 the outlaws, the villains, the Peblos, and the and they 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:41.880 actually had forty piru then thirty piru. Those all became 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:45.160 blood sets. So to answer that guy's question, those are 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:48.200 the main sets that was active in the early seventies 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:51.600 when the Blood Crip beef just started jumping off. So 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:55.840 this kind of goes right into our next topic, the 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:59.000 Wat sets. Well, you know, the um Watch came a 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:03.000 little a little late later, Yeah, because um uh, they 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:06.400 went to Compton first. And even though there was a 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:09.040 lot of dudes that grew up in Compton, the guys 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:11.719 that started Compton Crip, we're from Watts. They moved from 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:16.240 Watch to Compton Head Honcho. Head Honcho started the Compton 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:20.760 Cripts along with another one of Raymond's dudes. But they 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:23.640 were from Watts, but they moved to Compton. Then after 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:25.680 they got the Compton Crips going, they came back to 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:29.240 Watts and Hickory Street. Watts is the first cript said 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:36.840 in Watts that came out about seventy three maybe, which Yeah, 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:41.199 and then of course Grape came out from Head Honcho's 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:45.160 little brother, Wayne Day changed the name. They started off 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:49.439 as um Jordan's Downs Crip. That's what it was originally 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:53.360 in around seven, Yeah, it was the projects there. Then 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:57.360 they changed their name to Grape Street Crip. Um. But yeah, man, 0:11:57.360 --> 0:12:00.640 that's some it's some interesting history. Lost Angel sister, and 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:04.719 I feel like this history is just as important as 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:06.920 any other history. You know, I think there should be 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:12.440 history books on black l a street culture, and there's 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:14.560 a lot, there's a lot about it that you want 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:18.440 to know, because man, I mean, even though you got 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:20.520 a lot of killing and all of this other ship going, 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:22.640 the moth got a lot of killing, and they're making movies, 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:25.200 they're making books. It's celebrated, but we're not doing that. 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:28.040 But when we talk about black history when it's related 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:32.560 to violence, it's like we're glorifying it. Why can't Blacks 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:36.040 tell their stories as it relates to urban street culture 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:40.320 in the same way it gets romanticized and celebrated when 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:44.400 Italians or Irish or the Jews are telling their street histories. 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:50.880 And this way different now, I mean way back in 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:55.240 the day, man, they when when when, when uh Washington 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:58.040 was doing this, they was taking leather jackets. They was 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:02.479 carried switch blades and little bitty thirty eight and twos. 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:07.880 Today we're using eight K forty seven's and now memometers. 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:11.240 So they just stepped the game up on on on 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:14.360 what game banging is today. It's totally different from there. 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:20.640 Back then, they fought, they fought exactly so you had 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:23.400 to prove yourself back then as well as being a 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:26.600 man with your hands opposed. Now, I ain't gotta say 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:28.520 nothing to you. I just shoot you. The only time 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:30.400 you're fighting is when you fighting your own homies. You 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:33.040 ain't fighting. And I think I need to touch on 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:36.200 the pretty much what the parus and the crypts and 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:38.320 all that pretty much came from the school colors as well. 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:40.680 That's interesting because I always I always thought it was 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:45.120 a coincidence, like Centennial Highs and Bunny Hunters and they 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:47.120 was right there, get on the bus and Compton High 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:50.280 is blue and demingas it's kind of neutral. I just 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:52.320 kind of thought it was it all fell into place 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:55.120 as a coincidence. Now they most of those guys from 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:57.640 Westside Paru went to the Centennial and that was the 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:00.199 color of the school was read with the Centennial. All 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:03.240 the Compton cripts went to Compton High and then their 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:06.760 colors were blue. Yeah, yeah, that is an interesting Uh. 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:09.000 I thought it was a coincidence. I don't, I guess. 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:11.360 I mean you're from Comptons. Yeah, well I know that's 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:14.640 how you know the Compton crips and bluffs are pipe 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:17.079 rules are sorrybody Like I said when you'll start talking 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:20.160 about the l A Games in the sixties and the seventies, 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:23.840 and the colors weren't even relevant. In the early seventies, 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:26.160 the colors kind of came out. No, no, no, they 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:28.400 like I said, they started with the school colors. Once 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:31.840 they started, then they all used some young blood. Yeah, 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:33.680 you know what I'm saying. It wasn't what's happening because 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:37.120 it wasn't nothing like that. Those guys would see each 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:41.960 other and fight just because or somebody coming to get 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:45.760 somebody's jacket back, are they boots their shoes or whatever. 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:49.960 And from the beginning of the time, fighting over women. 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:52.840 This all my uncle numb used to do is fight 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:57.320 over this side of the across Central they're fighting over abroad, 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:00.120 or they're fighting because they took William mac jack k 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:03.120 so we gotta go back. So they per formed this 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:06.480 click where it's all about us. We're gonna protect us 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:10.960 against anybody, and that's how they just jump into it. Well, 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:14.080 this goes right into the next topic. Another question on 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:18.960 Instagram was what street battles did mob James have and 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:21.400 what about the war between the Fruit Towns and and 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:26.600 Ma Piru. Well, my war battles was against everything that 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:29.360 called itself a cripp and and Compton at that time. 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:33.160 My never had a war battle against no blood sets. Yeah, 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:37.520 that internal piru conflict is more recent. Yeah yeah, way before, 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:42.800 way after my time. That's some that's the Mob and 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.120 fruit Town. That's some new ship they're doing right now. 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:47.960 But well, I know Fruit Town is going at it 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.760 with tree Top. I didn't know. I also with Mom too. 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:53.440 I never heard of it. I never had a beef 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:57.320 with through Town to any tree Tops one fire Ones, 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:00.880 no west Side, Pierus, no nothing. But there's all kind 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:04.680 of internal conflict going. There's so much par rous and 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:06.600 you got to look at it. The only reason why 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:09.480 you have this is because I guess Mothercker's ain't got 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:11.800 ship to do. They don't even wait to summertime to 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:14.000 mo to pick who they really want to sunk with now. 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:17.120 And then you know, going back to two thousand and two, 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:21.120 after Alcon was killed, you got the the the thing 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:23.560 with Lotus Park and the Mob, and then you got 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:28.720 the Mob and Livehood Mob and everybody is fighting everybody. 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:33.120 Everybody is fighting everybody, which is let's say it's silly 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:36.720 because Comptany was never like that. I mean everybody from 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:39.480 each hold can go to everybodyhood and kick it once 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:43.280 upon a time. Now you can't do that. So I 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:46.920 never had a beef with Fruittown. Uh. I have a 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:49.400 lot of good friends from Fruittown right now in the day. 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:54.480 Um So who remember I asked that question? I would say, 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:57.640 they need to get their information right before they asked 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:00.680 what's going on? Because Marmam James ain't never had a 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:03.800 beef with the fruit Chimes ever in his life. So 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:05.840 what was the main crip said that you guys would 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:09.560 go at it with back in the seventies. The Santana's, 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:18.520 the Santana's uh Kelly Park, Atlantic Drive, Atlantic Drive, you know, 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:23.520 and who was never a factor? It was always Santana 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:28.040 was the major one because the baby gangs. He had money, 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:31.439 and he influenced some of the cats in his neighborhood 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:34.080 and he kept them straight, you know what I'm saying. 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:39.040 So they was our main which came him because they 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:41.720 was They were the ones that really pretty much giving 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:44.919 it back, you know what I'm saying. Parman Oaks and 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:49.800 all of their mother cats was not a guys, and 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:52.360 you basically had problems with people at school and when 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:54.640 he went to the summertime. It was because we used 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:56.679 to get out of school in the summertime in June. 0:17:57.119 --> 0:18:00.440 And I swear, especially from the law enforce a point 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:03.440 of view, every time that last week or two weeks 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:06.320 of school, you knew what was going down. You knew 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:11.120 it was September something about that in the football game. Now, 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:13.120 because your father was a cop, that's probably one reason 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:16.600 why you never got involved in the gangs, correct were 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:20.320 I grew up and walked the streets just like they did. 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:23.399 I played, I played baseball at Kelly Park. Will you 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:26.119 ever tempted like I want to be in the game? Never? Never? 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:31.120 I never even you know, I always knew I wanted 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:33.159 to be in law enforcement. We eventually wanted to be 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:36.000 an attorney. And what I thought, say it though he 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:40.320 always been a knuckle here him and his cousin William Flat. 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:43.840 He came out there for Quama and started with those niggers. 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:48.320 He was real cool with the two piece my cousin 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:50.520 that he's about to talk about. Yeah, that's what he 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:52.159 was hanging out there. You remember, went out there and 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:55.960 started having Cris crossed. And Reggie was was an item. 0:18:56.440 --> 0:19:01.879 Bad but a good game. Pops get him narrow straight, 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:07.399 and then his whole family Jarles. You never hear nobody 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:11.480 speak on Jols. That's his uncle and and his dad. 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:14.880 Everybody speaking on his dad is Jiles is so low cut, 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:18.439 low key, he'd do his stay. So how would you 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:20.800 feel when your father was arresting some of these guys 0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:23.040 that you was going to school with, or that putting 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:25.600 cases on people, Like, wouldn't they be mad at you? 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:28.560 Used to come to us U and I have never 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:30.360 had that problem. They used to come to the house 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:32.439 and sat in the living room talking to Reggie. We 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:35.840 lived right there on Pine Street, right down the stream. 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:38.760 I mean we until I mean I was nineteen years old, 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:41.000 twenty years old. When when when they finally say, okay, 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:42.840 we gotta get out here because my little sister was 0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:45.439 wilding out. I have assisted is about ten years old, 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:49.040 name kill. That was just was wilding out, hanging on 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:52.320 the streets. She went the Willow Brooke They won't take 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:55.760 us into a wayy, but my father went over up 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:57.919 to willow Brook Junior High School one time, which was 0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:02.000 a little little ways and know and my father was like, oh, 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:04.240 I thought, you know, she was having problems and stuff 0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:10.159 like that. They say, no teaser, goddamn leader's the problem. Whatever, 0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:13.640 the clicks of the bat is there, and so he said, 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:15.399 you know, he had to move her out. And so 0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:17.480 my my little sister is the reason that he finally 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:20.960 got all the comment and to just elaborate on that, this, 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:24.400 this is how Reggie Wright Senior was with all of us. 0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:28.320 I've never seen nobody that was so fair and uncut. 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:32.080 If you funk up and they say your name and 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:34.200 this report, I'm gonna come get you and take your 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:37.600 ass to jail. If you don't be over here, you 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:40.160 can't suck up and I won't have to come rest 0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:43.000 your ass. Reggie did this at the house so many 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:47.439 times on your door. Yeah, come on, James, you know 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:50.320 you ain't. We're talking. We get down to the station, 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:53.760 and that's how he would do it. And can I 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:56.439 get a cigarette while you do this. That's a unique 0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:59.320 relationship for police to have with the community, because that 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:02.960 doesn't exist. And that's why I said in an earlier 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:07.040 interview that he was doing community or policing community. But 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:09.120 you gotta remember, my family come from the Pyroal Course 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:13.200 housing projects. My father was boring and raised and and 0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:16.240 in Watson the projects and my mother and my father 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:18.600 and he got kicked out of the l A. Jordan 0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:20.320 had to end up going to Compton High School and 0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:23.639 that's where you know, graduating from UM and so I 0:21:23.720 --> 0:21:25.640 say that, but he was also but this is where 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:28.800 Reggie was. Reggie was reading the gym. Uh they called 0:21:28.840 --> 0:21:31.320 it Baby Staples Centers down the inside of the Pyal Court. 0:21:31.440 --> 0:21:34.639 He was the super superintendent there. He had a basketball 0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:37.919 team called the Imperial Course All Stars, uh that he 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:40.280 took all over you know b C I programs and 0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:42.200 took him all over the state. It was like well 0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:44.560 we know now and as the traveling basketball and all 0:21:44.600 --> 0:21:46.760 of that. He was doing that with the team out 0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:51.520 of the Watts Bank then. And so Reggie did like 0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:53.560 Roy Hamilton, David Greenwood and all of them from the 0:21:53.640 --> 0:22:00.480 seventy four to uh about he wouldn't kind of the 0:22:00.560 --> 0:22:03.959 early cripping in the Imperial Court. So he knows, he 0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:05.919 knows all of that history. And I mean, you know, 0:22:05.960 --> 0:22:08.159 he was deep into it because he was at the 0:22:08.200 --> 0:22:14.120 Imperial Court. My uncle who also coached baseball and baseball 0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:18.080 and football, UM, and so they but my point being 0:22:18.240 --> 0:22:22.199 is that um, he was also the meter reader, not 0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:23.800 the meter reader. He wasn't me. He was a little 0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:26.280 higher than the meter reader because my father didn't become 0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:28.439 in the law enforce until he was about twenty eight 0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:30.960 years of age, which was a little bit late. Um 0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:34.760 me just returned not too long ago. But um but 0:22:34.840 --> 0:22:37.480 he was the one that worked for Edison that came 0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:40.080 and cut your lights off. Was you know, he was 0:22:40.119 --> 0:22:42.280 the bill collector that they didn't have all the meter 0:22:42.400 --> 0:22:44.240 readers now where you can just turn it out from there. 0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:46.280 They had to come to the house and try to 0:22:46.320 --> 0:22:48.400 collect the money. If not, your lights get cut off. 0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:51.520 So he built relationships with people because he was he 0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:53.920