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Speaker 1: You're tuned into the Gangster Chronicles. Well, James McDonald, REXI

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Speaker 1: re Jr. And Allan Tomanso on the Digital Soapbox Network,

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Speaker 1: a material witness on an aggregated battery, I was a

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Speaker 1: hang gun and um, they believe this might be in

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Speaker 1: retaliation to her testimony. Welcome to another episode of Gangster Chronicles.

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Speaker 1: This is Alex Alonso and I'm sitting here with two

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Speaker 1: brothers who are the co host of the show. Regie, right,

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Speaker 1: big James, and thanks for being here, fellas. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: have a This show actually is going to be completely

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Speaker 1: and questions on there, and we're gonna start off with

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Speaker 1: our first question of the of the day, and the

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Speaker 1: first one is how did the Blood verse crypt beef begin?

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Speaker 1: What sets and what issues started the beef? Now, this

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Speaker 1: is something that I actually wrote about in my master's

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Speaker 1: thesis when I was going to USC. I kind of

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Speaker 1: tried to uncover the history of how this all started

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Speaker 1: and what got it going, and what years it got going,

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Speaker 1: and what neighborhoods were setting it off. And I found

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Speaker 1: out that nineteen nine was the year that Raymond Washington

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Speaker 1: and about maybe ten eleven twelve other dudes on the

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Speaker 1: East Side got that whole crypton going. But at the time,

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Speaker 1: there were other neighborhoods that existed that weren't Crip or

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Speaker 1: blood like, for example, um, the Pirrous the West Side,

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Speaker 1: well they called the West Side pi us now, but

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Speaker 1: the rules around Pirous Street in nineteen nine doing that

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Speaker 1: thing on the West Side. Yeah, and then and then

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Speaker 1: the East Side came out shortly after the West Side

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Speaker 1: came out. This is around seventy. Athens Park Boys existed

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Speaker 1: around the same time, UM Your Boy, the Miles they started,

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Speaker 1: Um the Figure Roll they started to Figure Roll Boys.

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Speaker 1: out around this time, all these neighborhoods, they weren't crip

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Speaker 1: or blood, they were just all these different neighborhoods scattered

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Speaker 1: throughout Los Angeles. Raymond starts his thing, and the first

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Speaker 1: thing he starts to do is say, I want to

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Speaker 1: start converting some of these neighborhoods into crips. And some

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Speaker 1: neighborhoods turned the crips and some don't. Uh. They went

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Speaker 1: he went to Athens, they said we're good. They went

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Speaker 1: the crips we're hanging out on par rou Street in

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy. Back in the day, the crips and the

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Speaker 1: a little riff and eventually that conflict started. Now the

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Speaker 1: conflict really comes in. In nineteen two, I tracked the

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Speaker 1: first homicide. L A brim dude named Country Little Country

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Speaker 1: seventy two. And that's when everything goes hey wire. That's

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Speaker 1: when all these non crip sets start to say, then

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Speaker 1: these these crips is really pressing the line, do you

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Speaker 1: want to say something? Now? I was I was just

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Speaker 1: thinking was at the time when Raymond Washington was shot

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Speaker 1: behind that. Raymond Washington was actually shot before seventy two.

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Speaker 1: He was shot when it was pre crip. He hadn't

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Speaker 1: and this was sixty seven, sixty sixty seven, sixty eight.

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Speaker 1: Craig Munson had the Avenues with his brothers and a

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Speaker 1: In fact, him hanging out with Craig Munton is the

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Speaker 1: one of the stories I get from my uncle uh,

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Speaker 1: Munson's were around the corner, Teddy, Craig Robert. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: but he was a big swollen look young coming up too.

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Speaker 1: But he was from Kitchen Crypt and me and him

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Speaker 1: were from different size. But I got a lot of

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Speaker 1: life in the penitentiary, um from from Teddy. Teddy was pimping.

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Speaker 1: They were more into themselves than really on the game,

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Speaker 1: I was still I was a little blood. I was

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Speaker 1: together and I was from the mob. Run was from Kitchen.

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Speaker 1: firston Hooper fighting against the eight nines with Runt because

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Speaker 1: his homies were scared of the nineties Coast crips. And

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Speaker 1: we would go to Drew and fight the cripts with Runt.

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Speaker 1: So he was fighting You were Piru and fighting with

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Speaker 1: my like blood. Did you ever feel like maybe I

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Speaker 1: we went and we was going to school with him,

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Speaker 1: and so by us going to going to school and Run,

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Speaker 1: I mean I went to Drew and and Run was

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Speaker 1: When I had went to Drew Junior High. Why was

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Speaker 1: went to damn every high school, Lock High, and went

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Speaker 1: to Fremont and I just didn't last long. So but

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Speaker 1: he was my friend the way of until he got killed. Now,

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Speaker 1: before we moved on to the next topic, I just

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Speaker 1: about about Run. You know what type of guy he was,

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Speaker 1: because eventually he grew up to be a kind of big.

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Speaker 1: He was a very big dude. If you ever seen

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Speaker 1: You know who trained him though, right, his big brother

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Speaker 1: what they had so many weights in the yard and

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Speaker 1: by him he was stronger than his brother. He was

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Speaker 1: stronger than Teddy, and walking about, Craig was solid. And

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Speaker 1: then the only one that never lived wigs. The other brother, Carlton,

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Speaker 1: the light skinned one. Well, they had another brother named Salim.

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Speaker 1: He lifted. And then the oldest, the oldest brother was

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Speaker 1: Joe tall. He real tall. Also, I don't know, I

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Speaker 1: None of them was really skinny. But Carlton. Can you

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Speaker 1: believe seven brothers though, and one family. Yeah. And then

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Speaker 1: and their mama was was with the business. Yeah, Their

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Speaker 1: mama was a solid woman. And and and she that wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: I just seen Teddy not too long ago over there,

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Speaker 1: you know, Teddy into the low Riders and jury. When

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Speaker 1: We was a little catch, and they looked out for us.

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Speaker 1: And uh my uncle's uh Bubba and all of those

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Speaker 1: guys Bubba doing life and Pendent Independitentiary right now from

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Speaker 1: over there. Um, it was so many of those guys

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Speaker 1: of all of them. Now. The second part of this

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Speaker 1: west Side Crib, east Side Cript, Compton Cript. That was it.

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Speaker 1: But then they were starting to splint her off sets.

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Speaker 1: like seventy two, the eight eight Avalons came out, and

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Speaker 1: And then in terms of the sets that eventually became bloods,

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Speaker 1: Wat sets. Well, you know, the um Watch came a

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Speaker 1: little a little late later, Yeah, because um uh, they

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Speaker 1: Watch to Compton Head Honcho. Head Honcho started the Compton

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Speaker 1: Cripts along with another one of Raymond's dudes. But they

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Speaker 1: were from Watts, but they moved to Compton. Then after

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Speaker 1: they got the Compton Crips going, they came back to

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Speaker 1: Watts and Hickory Street. Watts is the first cript said

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Speaker 1: in Watts that came out about seventy three maybe, which Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then of course Grape came out from Head Honcho's

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Speaker 1: little brother, Wayne Day changed the name. They started off

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Speaker 1: as um Jordan's Downs Crip. That's what it was originally

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Speaker 1: that's some it's some interesting history. Lost Angel sister, and

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Speaker 1: I feel like this history is just as important as

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Speaker 1: any other history. You know, I think there should be

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Speaker 1: the moth got a lot of killing, and they're making movies,

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Speaker 1: they're making books. It's celebrated, but we're not doing that.

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Speaker 1: But when we talk about black history when it's related

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Speaker 1: to violence, it's like we're glorifying it. Why can't Blacks

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Speaker 1: how did your dad end up living in Compton? Then?

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00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: If he was from Watts everybody moved from the project

427
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 1: to the city of Compton. Everybody's parents came from either.

428
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 1: I guess the year we lived on A hundred we

429
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: moved from I never lived my mom would get married.

430
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: You have a finish. She heard me say, I lived

431
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 1: in the project. I didn't live on but I lived

432
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: on a hundred fourteen Street, which was right outside the projects.

433
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: But you know we called it moving on up. I

434
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 1: guess that was our Jefferson's move in the conference. And

435
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 1: I heard you mentioned um Santana block dude named Turtle.

436
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 1: My father still to this day, were a charm that

437
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: Turtle gave him, you know, Turtle to Compton from another

438
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 1: state when he was a young kid. The majority of yeah,

439
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,919
Speaker 1: and how did how did Turtle become the man in Santano?

440
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: It wasn't because he was the because of the game.

441
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: The game usually the little, the smallest guys. When the

442
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: cocaine came to County, some of us knew. We looked

443
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 1: at it, We know how to sell it. Some of

444
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: the guys cats got to know how to rock it.

445
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,959
Speaker 1: Some of them cats, they can rock it, they can

446
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: sell it, and they knew how to save their money.

447
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: You knew how to cut it and the whole nine.

448
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: And they was making money though. You could tell. Those

449
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 1: guys were shining like motherfucker baby gags and all of them.

450
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 1: So the ones that didn't make it was just in

451
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 1: the hood doing their things. But the ones that did,

452
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: like Turtle, I remember that white, uh was it the

453
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: sixty five ship you had with bad havy rabbit on

454
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 1: it pissed me off. He had a perm at the

455
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: time and send him one day I was hitting. But

456
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: we had the same fucking opportunity as they had. We

457
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 1: had fucking bags like ship, and we just didn't know

458
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: what the funk we was doing. So the way we

459
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 1: sold it, we were getting it away for five hundred

460
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: dollars and then rocket. Even if you're dealing with cocaine,

461
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 1: it's still a business. You still got to have the

462
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: talent to make the profit and we have to go

463
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 1: re up. We didn't have that. You know, if you

464
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: look at all the guys that I knew that was

465
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: successful in the game, from m Armando to uh um

466
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 1: uh think they were all from Pat Johnson. All of

467
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: the motherfucker's was probably about five six five seven weight

468
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty hundred sixty pounds. My point was

469
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 1: it was always a little small thing s our guy

470
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 1: that was had the business mind that made it happen.

471
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if they were well so um less

472
00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: intimidating to deal with because you know, the stature or whatever.

473
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: But every dude that I know that was a hunter

474
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: was about the only one when you mentioned his name, well,

475
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: Wayne Day, that was a big du that that was

476
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: kind of uh you know who was connected. He definitely

477
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: had the skill, he had the connection and the connection. Yeah,

478
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: telling me ask you did the santa when you said

479
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: the Santano's had maybe extra skills or edge when it

480
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: came to hustling back then, the two or three guys,

481
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: and they had other people outside of them, and then

482
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,719
Speaker 1: they was taking out of town, out of town waiting

483
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 1: for we even thought about going to Denver. You know

484
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. They was already gone. And then one

485
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: thing about those cats was man to to to do

486
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 1: your dealings and then to deal with the game, bang

487
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: and ship at the same time. They did them both

488
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: and they wasn't no, they got making money. They let

489
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: me get over here. I ain't raising these cats, but

490
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: I'm giving credit with credit is due. Those cats was

491
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: on the block with doozies doing their ding with money

492
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: in their pocket. I'm talking about cats all up and down.

493
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: Uh what's the street? Uh God or no, they on

494
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 1: rosecrans and the little spot pearls. But those cats was

495
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: on that one seven ready to go. And every time

496
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: we went down there, Uh, we had to deal with

497
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: some cats and it was we were fired upon, we

498
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: were shoting at at and it wouldn't know, just let's

499
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: go ahead and get these niggas. It was always an issue.

500
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: And that was the fun thing about Santana's and even

501
00:28:54,080 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: from the uh, the pyrous side. And you know, I'm

502
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: giving a guy credit that Jay probably don't like too much.

503
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. But Glen we called him Glenco Zeke.

504
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: We it was Zeke and we called I called him

505
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: always Glenco. He was a part of dude that grew up,

506
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: that was one of Bunchry's closest friends at one time.

507
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: That was connected. But he went over and dealt with

508
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: the South sides. And that's why we called him Glencoe

509
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: because that's what you know, one of the main streets

510
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: over in south side of the crypt uh huh. Zeke

511
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: was always he had to the end with Fink. And

512
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: that's what exactly, that's my point. That was the connects.

513
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: I was just I say, this is how the blood

514
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: and the crew we're connecting with, you know, was connected,

515
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: and you know that they would work together. They would

516
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: only fun with Zeke pretty much. But he can go

517
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: over there in south Side and get whatever he needed

518
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: and bring it back with any crypt gang in Compton

519
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: and and this crypt game, which is Santana's. They were

520
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: like bright in the middle of the you got these

521
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: then here they go. You got M Street and from

522
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: M Street on down you got number bloods and and

523
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: they actually they did they think they represented their ship.

524
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: They didn't man this ship shut down. No, there was

525
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: the only ones. I give them any props on that.

526
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: And they wouldn't go away. They wouldn't go away for real.

527
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: I'm serious. We had issues with those cats for years,

528
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: and I say the only crip gang out there that

529
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: was at that time in the early eighties was was them.

530
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: Have you made peace with any of the Santana blocks

531
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: as you got older, Hans or had a meal? No, No,

532
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: I haven't. I don't. I mean associate with people like that.

533
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: I mean I think I'm sure there's some o G

534
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: Santana does that feel the same way you feel? That

535
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: probably due and always say that they didn't have too

536
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: much problems because gangster kind of goddamn shop pretty much

537
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: in the hood. Right what the confidence fought me was

538
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: right on right on with the with the the little shop.

539
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: I said, what's what's up? You know what? And the

540
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: reason because of that, because he was going through some

541
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: ship with his wife, the lady passing and all that.

542
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: He just getting out the fares all that man. Motherfucker's

543
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: grew up and they got time for the beef. You

544
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: feel me so, But just say if that was years,

545
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: you wouldn't be there. And he knew he wouldn't be

546
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: posted there, so I mean, even him, he ain't stupid.

547
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: That's like me going to post up right there before

548
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: they build that bridge over over on Rose Glass. Ain't happening.

549
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: You ain't walking down that street, even though tree Top

550
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: was right right on the other side of the ridge.

551
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: But the ain't nobody going, Yeah, I'm not walking right there.

552
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: Cross tracks those guys, man, was confidence pretty much set

553
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: up by tracks, the railroad tracks, which is willow Brook, Alameter.

554
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: It's pretty much whereverybody knew their boundaries were. Well, that's

555
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: what divide the east side from the west side. Always

556
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: I every blood shid, I went in and I kicked

557
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: it through towns Duck and all of those cats we've

558
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,959
Speaker 1: always kicked it. Me and lead Forward used to hang

559
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: together all the time on Peach. Yeah, and then let

560
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: me just say that MORV James had a blood party

561
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: every Friday night or Saturday night, Friday night, Friday night,

562
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: every every seven house at this house. It was so bad.

563
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: I used to go. I used to love it because

564
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: I'll go over there at the end of the year

565
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: because you know what I did. Jacket niggas coming out

566
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: of the party. They all had guns on them and

567
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: just let them have their day. And that man talking,

568
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: so he was coming up there, up coming. Police come

569
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: and they tell me I had to shut club mob down.

570
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: I don't, but don't. Don't got dog on neighbors. I

571
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: was gonna senior citizen block colub meetings, everything like, how

572
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: y'all letting this go on? You know what it was?

573
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: So it was so reckless and I'm in it now.

574
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: You know. The guys were so they all respected me

575
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: because I told him, y'all party and my ship to

576
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: do whatever you want. Don't spin on my floor and

577
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: don't drop no cigarette. Other than that, I don't give

578
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: And and we would play. We would have football games.

579
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: We was playing Emerald Hills every Sunday and all the

580
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: San Diego Cats would come down and just man, it

581
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: was just we do when we want when we get

582
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: to this cat this nigger house on bloods Nigga, I'm

583
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: coming and then you're just they got Poldy card. So

584
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: Emerald Hills Blood from Sandy Southeast San Diego would come

585
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: to comf the way to Compton and just to play

586
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: football against us. And then after we played football, they

587
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: go to their court get a case in Hennessey and

588
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: and we all started getting sucked up. Now they would

589
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: stay and kick it. There comes Saturday party Sunday, Sunday morning.

590
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: Those that was dropping up in the then and whatever

591
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: got up and went home. The football game he got killed.

592
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: He left the park that was we was playing the

593
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: West Side. We was playing the Body Hunters. Okay, I

594
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: thought he was playing the Huns. Got that call on

595
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: that one. Now, you also mentioned two other crip sets.

596
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: Both of y'all mentioned Kelly Park in Atlanta. Try but

597
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: before I asked you about that, I just interviewed some

598
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: Emerald hill Blood because I was in San Diego a

599
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, and I just posted that on

600
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: my channel. So for anyone that's interested in one of

601
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: my latest interviews, go visit street tv and you can

602
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: check out some of the Emerald Hill Bloods that I

603
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: enter feed over there in their neighborhood. But you also

604
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: mentioned this top time from the neighborhood that we're talk

605
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: Lloyd Lake there. I don't Lloyd Lake, but it's the

606
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,959
Speaker 1: south southeast San Diego. They up on a on the hill.

607
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: They call it Uptown. This the pinky and the index

608
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: finger which makes it you is their sign because of uptown.

609
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: So uh, I had his brother given me the history

610
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: of the Emerald Hill Bloods. They even even the dude

611
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: even mentioned he said, man, they know us, they know

612
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: us in l An. They all little cash, straight pimper,

613
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: straight pimper making their money and them dudes was doing

614
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: it good. We'll go check out about that Emerald Hill

615
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: interview on the Street TV. But you guys also mentioned

616
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 1: Kelly Park, Compton Crips and Atlantic Drive Competon Crips. Were

617
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: they kind of a factor in terms of the conflict

618
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: with the mob back then. Kelly Park, Yes, uh call

619
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: Pork has some riders in it, that's where he's from. Yeah,

620
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: And they had alignment. They made alignment with the hell

621
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 1: of you used to go south side Atlantic and Kelly

622
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: Park neighborhood. It was alignment something like that when they

623
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: even went together, but they mainly fought with Santano, to

624
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: be honest. They had a big we used to call

625
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: it the Compton massacre and the down they about four

626
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: or five them got killed one one day at Kelly Park,

627
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: uh and a big shootout. Potato here. Paul Watson still

628
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: a little death row behind that. Bunty went to jail

629
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: when they started that, came out with the c that

630
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: was hunch That's so funny, that's so funny. I did

631
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: a crip from Watts hunch Old start the niggas and united.

632
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 1: They only become the c C Rider after his brother

633
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: got killed, Kenny Crow. My father's one of the arrest

634
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: of the guy that killed his brother on that trying

635
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 1: to fix it him. But my brother bunch Ree went

636
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: to the park where they was having this meeting. And

637
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: it's a crazy story. Which part Kelly Parks, Kelly Park

638
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 1: when they was former CC Riders Right now, what part

639
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: was that? Because we had the tape, No that was

640
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: a competent high school on the football field, no football

641
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: they got pulled over, that was on the football field, compo.

642
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: I got the whole tape of that. A bunch of

643
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 1: them in the car. Just stay in the car, draw

644
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: down and let him have it. The police see them,

645
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: so they take salt. They would have got away like motherfucker,

646
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: but this mesking lady was in front of him. They

647
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: speak cleaning English, and they was telling her to get

648
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: the funk out the way, blowing the horn the whole night.

649
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 1: She didn't know what the funk they was talking about.

650
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: But anyway, why the funk y'all didn't bag up and

651
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: and and go around them. They didn't. They didn't have

652
00:37:54,960 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: no reverse, So the bolus ten minutes sitting there, police

653
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: catch them, pull up. They all jumped out the car.

654
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: And this is when Alton caught the assault on the

655
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 1: police officer. The dog that came up by the house.

656
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: He choked the dog out, so they gave him a

657
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: tempt on the dog that's an officer. So and that

658
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: was real funny because everybody was supposed to be in

659
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: on this, and they were supposed to be they supposed

660
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: to got attacked from each corner. It's what's called because

661
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 1: if y'all come out on this side or come out

662
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: with the building, the court building that where, if y'all

663
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: come out that way, they're getting hit. You know what

664
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But no, they went on and did them,

665
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: and they cost them nine years. The CC writer went

666
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: off for a little wasn't nothing. Were united for a

667
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: minute though, when that real nighting not took over. They

668
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 1: they were cec riding. Was the post would be something

669
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: that took overcome, yea. They thought they were gonna come

670
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: in and shut one who had down at a time.

671
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: It wasn't happening. Y'all weren't ready for no ship like that.

672
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: So you're saying that they were consolidating to be against

673
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: the py Rouse all together come together because they were

674
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: killing each other. They was killing they was knocking down

675
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: they because half the component crypt don't get along there.

676
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: That's why they were killing each other. The shooting you

677
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: just mentioned that landed Um Humble on death row from Yeah,

678
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: but they called Paul Watson, but Paul was that I

679
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: was working. I worked at that homicide seen um ain't

680
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: too many ninety four ninety It the quintuple homicide. You

681
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: know about four or five people got shout at the

682
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: park that day. I'll tell your story right quick. Be

683
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: the promote being a a donor the can you think

684
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: of the name now, mindo wasn't well anyway. He was

685
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: one of the main shot calls over the Atlantic Dry.

686
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: The reason why. And this boy is walking around good today.

687
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: His mama refused to take him off for life support

688
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: because she was trying to wait for a donor, uh,

689
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 1: to give up his parts organs to be an organ donor. Um.

690
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: And this boy, you know, he's still not all all there.

691
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: But his boy still walking around the day from Atlantic

692
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: Dry because his mom was trying to wait for an

693
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: organ donor. And he came through that thought. The doctors

694
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: told him he was gonna be dead. One of the

695
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: main shot called Mondo. I can't take that boy name,

696
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 1: but he was one of the main dudes over the

697
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 1: Atlantic Dry to this day. They got shot up in

698
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: that during that same shooting. Yeah, then in jail on

699
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: death row everybody. But now you got a car coming

700
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: from the scene. In the car, it wasn't like one

701
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: of those they got caught, I'm sure. Was he the

702
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: only one that was about three or for him that

703
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: got he's probably the only one on death row from Santana.

704
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: I have to call senior on that. I don't remember.

705
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: My memory not good with the niggas all right, and

706
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: real quick before we move on to the next topic.

707
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: You mentioned easy being from Kelly Parker. Um, he basically

708
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 1: was spearheaded the whole gangster rap I would say gangster

709
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: rap label before Yeah. Um he started Ruthless Records and

710
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: what seven And it was that Kelly park money that

711
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: financed it, right, Yeah, there is a big misconception about that.

712
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: It was cocaine and it was mainly this week though

713
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: he's a big time wheat make some money. Pounds were

714
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: back then, because you know, I was if you take

715
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,479
Speaker 1: it somewhere was a hundred and fifty bucks somewhere else.

716
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: But the weed and eighties seven you had Thai budd right,

717
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:54,479
Speaker 1: what else? There was no chronic there was no kids.

718
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: He had seeds. Stress, yeah, stress, what else was the stress?

719
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: Time was time? He was lucky. Time was the best.

720
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: That was the Yeah, that man. So he was making

721
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: his money off of them. Yeah, you gotta sell a

722
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: lot of that to to have the money, and it

723
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: wasn't And they made the deal real quick, you know.

724
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: But he had some street money. He was making two

725
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: dollars a day and uh school selling that doming selling

726
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: single joints. They have them all pre rolls, alright, Our

727
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: next question off of Instagram was the whole l Rate

728
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: theater incident in was a brother from Roll the Sixties

729
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: got stomped to death. I think his name was bo

730
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 1: oh Well. I know him as Kelly Jamerson, Kelly Jamerson.

731
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: And the question is how did that situation from the

732
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 1: guy that got killed from sixties not escalate into something

733
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,919
Speaker 1: larger with death row records big you will say, because

734
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: he was out, wasn't out, which was but this is

735
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: what happened. Um he came allegedly he was on the

736
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: the DJ's um um guest less. DJ Quick was having

737
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 1: this big problem with m C eight at the time

738
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: because the g wasn't anyone right and so and so

739
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 1: quick as just got off stage performing and they were

740
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: walking by. Uh, and then m C eight, you know,

741
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: because him a Quick had that major this thing going on,

742
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: and he was just hollering at him, and you know,

743
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: started pointing that Quick and disrespecting Quick, and then the

744
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 1: melee started between everybody, just the pie roots and pretty

745
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: much any Quick that we'll get or any Crypts that

746
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: will get involved. And and that's how he got stumped out. Now, Uh,

747
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: when that guy, when the guy stumped out like that

748
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: if the mother catch whoever was with him didn't leave

749
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: run because they was they were fighting. They were fighting,

750
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: and if the mother cats wouldn't have left, And then man,

751
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: I was over there by the stage with ship and

752
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: all you see was bottles and all kind of ship

753
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: being thrown chairs and over the place. So you you

754
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: wasn't there wasn't she was on the stage, and I

755
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: was right there when he was on stage, I was

756
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: right there watching his back. So when all that ship

757
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,240
Speaker 1: went off, the bar was if you're facing the stage,

758
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: the bar was to the right. So timmy hand dog

759
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 1: quick Um was done zell Um, quite other few people,

760
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: the the bodyguard that was with him that that eventually died.

761
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: Big Harry said, dude from St. Louis, I can't think

762
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: of that. And I said again, if if his homeboys

763
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't have left him, I don't think it would have

764
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: been that serious. But when the fight broke out and

765
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 1: it was just just just motherfucker's on top of each

766
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: other's and and motherfucker's was getting getting beat up. And

767
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: was he targeted or no, Jamerson, he was just he

768
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,439
Speaker 1: was just in the area. It was well, and then

769
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: you know the crypt, the crypt and the party rout

770
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: thing kicked in is what mainly happened. I can't even

771
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: say that that Jamison was with M because I know,

772
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: you know, because I got sued and everybody got sued,

773
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: and I so I know that he was on the

774
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: guest list. It was it was game, but it was

775
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: everything in there after that, because when the bottles and

776
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: ships started getting through, that was quick than throwing back

777
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: and forth at each other, and you here, what's happened.

778
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: They're gonna bloods and they're gonna don't quip. And then

779
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: it was just and it happened like that that fast.

780
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: Next thing, you know, those dogs swing open, motherfucker's running

781
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: out of there. And when motherfucker's running towards their cars,

782
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: you heard people saying, help help help him. He helping

783
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: me still down, his home voice was gone. Everybody skirted

784
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: up out of there, and the next day they said

785
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: somebody was killed. And six months later, two months later,

786
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: Tupac wrote a song about it, and how you say

787
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: I killed somebody? DJ and I'm not a gangster? That

788
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: that one that was a couple of years later. Yeah,

789
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: you know, by that time, he was going from I

790
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: don't even want to put our ship in it like that.

791
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: But you know, motherfucker's got the point fingers at the row,

792
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: motherfucker's and was saying such and such did all this

793
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: year old bullshit, and only a few people went to

794
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: the police. They had to go to the police station

795
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 1: behind that ship. And you know, how do you motherfucker know?

796
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: The police know his name, his name, his name. That's

797
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: all y'all got to give. Were the cameras rolling inside

798
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 1: there captained the whole thing. And theater did not have cameras.

799
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: And man, we're talking about the nineties now, they wasn't

800
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: like that. Cameras, not one single camera. They didn't have

801
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 1: cameras one that that that popular back then. Anyway, Thank

802
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: god I was you know, I was over security then,

803
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: but I was just at the door. The security that

804
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: I was hired. Um, they had their own. It was

805
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: the house security thing. God was. They all took off

806
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: a bunch of L A p. D. Cops and all

807
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: of that. They got in trouble because they mainly, um

808
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: do you um fought the security for not doing anything.

809
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: You could have broken up so um any times, um,

810
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: somebody get uh stumped out, you know, that's that's taking

811
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: supposed to stop it quicker. So, yeah, I have some concerns,

812
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: but but my people would make me the artists. So

813
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: I got my client out and she got out real quick.

814
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: Well you couldn't blame now. She was on the stage.

815
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: He was trying to stop it. He was like he

816
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 1: thought the party was gonna still go on. He was like,

817
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: I said, nig we, let's go, let's go now he was,

818
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: It's okay, Red, just stop, no, let's go. The place

819
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: was sup. Yeah, it was still trying to party. It

820
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 1: was it was Yeah, he was still trying to party.

821
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 1: But that ship level party. So basically nothing really escalated,

822
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: you know, corrupt cart a little trouble. We had to go,

823
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 1: and I remember me and she going over the next

824
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: day the Silver Lake and meeting with UH. That's when

825
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: we found out the FBI and and all of that

826
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: was following us around like crazy because they jacked us.

827
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: Uh come, you know when we was meeting with UH,

828
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: we was meeting with the corrupting DASK because they were

829
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: scared shitless because they were getting all the threats and

830
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: all of that. Why the sixties and I think that's

831
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: what you're saying, why the sixties and started gang? Well,

832
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: that's all about. That's all about. That's why we went

833
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: to bed, and they were they were upset. You know,

834
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: we're corrupting dass and putting pressure on them. But I

835
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: don't know if she'll ever get some money to corrupt

836
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 1: in dask to the filter, to their hood or what.

837
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 1: But I know they were catching a lot of hem.

838
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: They were the partners. He's from Long Beach, but they

839
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: were a partner. Dash from New Orleans, Memphis, Mississippi, and

840
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 1: sowere he was from He he's from Philadelphia, but he

841
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: was up under the sixty car with the Broomfields and

842
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: Big You and all of them, and so they you know,

843
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 1: they had a little affiliation with that. So I guess

844
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: an answer to this guy's question somehow got worked out.

845
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: We never yeah, we we never had no problems after that,

846
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: not with the with the sixties. After that. Um never

847
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: had no problems. And eventually we all know that she

848
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: started hanging with the sixties with Big You once he

849
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 1: came home. Yeah, yeah, so I was. There was no problem.

850
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: Deaths later, that's much later. All right, Well Big You

851
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: was in jail at that time. Alright, So um, let's

852
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: move on to our final topic and This comes in

853
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: from another Instagram follower. Oh, this is a this is

854
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: a really controversial question. Would there be less police shootings

855
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: if black people complied more with the police? Man, home, man,

856
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: I already know what Reggie's gonna say. I told you

857
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 1: about about two two episodes ago that y'all gotta teach

858
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: your kids to comply and we can deal with the

859
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: cops and go down to the station later. That's a

860
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: sad case because I've taught both of my kids how

861
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:05,439
Speaker 1: to conduct themselves in the years old and fourteen years old,

862
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: and I'm telling them when I get pulled over and this,

863
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: you guys to see, this is what and you're gonna

864
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: get that type of bullshit from them, whether you like

865
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: it or not. Wait a minute, whether you reply or not. Bullshit.

866
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: The police is gonna do what they want when they

867
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,720
Speaker 1: felt like it. Now. But standing out on the corner,

868
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: the police come and pull you over, let me see

869
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: your like, why bullshit with him and play games and

870
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: want to fight. You're not gonna win this fight you Yeah, no, No,

871
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: even the ones that's clean, there's no need for for

872
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: that type of conversation. Just getting what they want to

873
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: be done with it and then let it. Sometimes it

874
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: don't work like that, whether you comply or not. You

875
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: got this asshole as cop donna want to push you

876
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: in your back and be all rough with you and

877
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: ship so man that that that that can go anyway,

878
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: any kind of way. It all depends on what type

879
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: officer you get that's pulling you over. Or you can

880
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,439
Speaker 1: say no, Reggie, I'm not gonna allow you to turn

881
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 1: your back on me to day. I'm just telling you

882
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: because we have I mean, you have something that if

883
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: they don't told you four or five times, get your

884
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 1: ass off this block, move, keep moving. You don't stay

885
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 1: in there. And that's usually just because that's usually because

886
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: the lady in front of the house, old Grandma is

887
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: complaining and keep calling down to the station to the

888
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 1: washer man. Why won't they move James from in front

889
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: of the house. He out there selling that stuff now. Actually,

890
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna tell you, man, I ain't going nowhere.

891
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: Can't make me leave. And then you're gonna say I

892
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,720
Speaker 1: want your I d get on my car and don't

893
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 1: you move. Man. You can't tell me where it moved

894
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: you well, and Compton, we have a municipal blocking the side.

895
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: We got examples where people did not deserve to get

896
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: shot that are on camera. Oscar Grhant, We've all seen

897
00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: um the fruit veil platform video. The guy the cops

898
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: actually ended up saying, oh, I thought that was my taser.

899
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: You know that's the old senior citizens in the back.

900
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 1: He said, what about Philando? And I believe that that

901
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: he that that old man messed up on that. I

902
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: believe because I don't tasers really weren't that popular. I

903
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: don't remember. The cops are just be just as scared

904
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: as uh some people, especially if that training is not

905
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 1: that well. But your tasers on your weak side, your

906
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: guns on your strong side. So how do you grab

907
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: your taser and think it's your gun? Or vice versa,

908
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 1: how do you grab your gun and think it's your taser?

909
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: They're on opposite sides, Right, he was wrong? What about

910
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: Philando Castile? The guy says, Hey, I'm gonna go give

911
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 1: you my I D right now. But Shade in the

912
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: back seat, I do have a gun. It's legal. I

913
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 1: worked for the school district and and he just aired

914
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: his ass out. That's all on camera too, So I

915
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: know what the situation you're talking about, but I don't know,

916
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: but he had back tactics, and that's the good thing

917
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: you should sussily. Living in California, the police also standing

918
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: and training is a lot better than you have in

919
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: some of your states out in the South, um and

920
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: so they know how to order the people out of

921
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: the car. You you you just pretty much freeze the

922
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: situation and wait till you get some back up, or

923
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: you just get people out of the car and you

924
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: try to slow the situation down, you know what. That's

925
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: how you're supposed to do it. But the most recent

926
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: issue that we're talking about, the incident I think it

927
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: was in Florida or somewhere that they did shot the

928
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: lady four times, three or four times. We don't know

929
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: she'd be trying to say because the investigation knew that

930
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,959
Speaker 1: she was reaching for something that's not I'm not trying

931
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,760
Speaker 1: to gonna be here and try to justify the shooting

932
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: because we don't know the facts. Because you could have

933
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: had a gun in the waist band. We don't know,

934
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: because they're not saying I don't know what they said

935
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 1: she we don't know. My whole point to that though,

936
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 1: is if she would have complied, she still be alive

937
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: and she would just let the man frisker do whatever

938
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 1: and still out there trying to talk shit resist. You

939
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: know what, don't you think that today when I go

940
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: to work, I'm gonna find at least five people I stopped.

941
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: Two of them gonna be combative. Two im ain't gonna

942
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: listen to what I tell them to do. That you

943
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: don't go to work with their mentality, I'm gonna have

944
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: to with somebody I didn't um and I don't remember

945
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: really been in the cars with people like that. But

946
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that it doesn't happen that some people,

947
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: because I don't know what a person in mindset is.

948
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: But my point to that is, if you have a

949
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,959
Speaker 1: good management at your at the police department, that cop

950
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: is going to eventually get weighted out. We knew the

951
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 1: ones that was heavy handed, that's what we used to

952
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: call are aggressive, and after three or four or five complaints,

953
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,959
Speaker 1: but that same type of situation, trust me, they asked,

954
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: got moved to community affairs, they got put in helicopter.

955
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 1: There's they got, they got reassigned. Um, if not pretty

956
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 1: much told hey don't get in another one or you're

957
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: gonna get dealt with. So if you have good management

958
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: and and you know, fortunately I was at a department

959
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: where we were fifty black and white, and so the

960
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 1: you know, the white officers can run rapid as rapid

961
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: as um as they're do in some departments. I'm not

962
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 1: here to say that there's not bad officers on the

963
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 1: street or heavy handed aggressive. The most heavy handed aggressive

964
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: officers that I worked with were black, to be honest, um.

965
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: But they're learning that because that's just the culture of

966
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: the police, not because of their black They're they're absorbing

967
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: the culture of law enforcement based on the officers that's

968
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: what they're supposed. It could be that from the training

969
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: or there, or they're got or it could be because

970
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: and its mainly was because they thought that was their

971
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: way of making the difference until they found how how

972
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: the department to turn on it. Because you know, like

973
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 1: I had two grandmothers and little in the city of Compton.

974
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: I didn't have a problem because you know with the

975
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: guys hanging in front of their house and stuff like

976
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: that because of James. But my grandmother eventually had to move.

977
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: I love the city of Compton because two people got

978
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: killed in front of her house and so if she

979
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: wasn't living over there by the McDonald's, and and and

980
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: the people that they were allowing to come over to

981
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: their house. She might, you know, would have died living

982
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: in the city of Compton and wouldn't had to move out. Well,

983
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: my biggest problem with these heavy handed officers is that

984
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: I've seen at least a dozen videos where they are

985
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: pursuing a white person or a white woman, and w

986
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying to myself, this is lasting far too long.

987
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,959
Speaker 1: If this person was black, they would have got aired

988
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: out already. White women jumping out of the car, in

989
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: the car, out the car, dancing, white guys just talking,

990
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:59,439
Speaker 1: all kind of crazy mess and and that's don't play

991
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: that too much. Race has to play a role in this.

992
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: But even though let me say this, let me say this,

993
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,479
Speaker 1: and this is to to all black cats out there

994
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: that get pulled over. At some point, we as black

995
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: men have to learn you got to understand the system

996
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: and roll with it, because we can't beat the system

997
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: no matter what we do. I had to learn stop

998
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: running your mouth to the police, to me do what

999
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: you do and then let them go about their business.

1000
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: I've learned that. But then in between times you get

1001
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: that one that don't ain't got no love for you

1002
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: like that, Like Graves, this motherfucker was ready to do

1003
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: me in handcuffs because I didn't want to do a

1004
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: goddamn gang video with them at the police station. You

1005
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: feel me? So what is my choices? Either standing his

1006
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: motherfucker's seldom let them come in here and get me.

1007
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: Just yeah, I do it. You know what I'm saying.

1008
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: So you have to you have to say put all

1009
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: your pride to the side to say, Okay, I understand officer,

1010
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: Yes sir. So this is what they want to hear.

1011
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: How you're talking to I mean, I guess you're talking

1012
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: about saving lives. But at the same time, police officers

1013
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: need to be trained to deal with the mouth, but

1014
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: to deal with the cursing, to deal with the disrespect.

1015
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean pull out my gun and blow your way.

1016
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:23,439
Speaker 1: Dealing with police officers is if I come off aggressive

1017
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: before they even say anything. Now, the whole situation is aggressive.

1018
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: If they come off aggressive, I don't have to get

1019
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: aggressive because he's an asshole. Still reply, still saying yes sir,

1020
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: your mind telling me what I'm pulled over for it.

1021
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: Then the cool thing about that is we don't know

1022
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: our laws on the streets on why they're not supposed

1023
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: to funk with you if you ain't committed a crime.

1024
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: I'll be watching all these ships on on this phone

1025
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: here they're chewing the police out. Well, officer, do you

1026
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: know what the three or eight is? Chick? And I'm

1027
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what the code is. Yeah, I know

1028
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: what you're saying. I know what you're saying. And those

1029
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 1: stupid cops because I can. I can get in your

1030
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: pockets and I can get in you. I can get

1031
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: in you and have you arrested for any pretty much anything.

1032
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: They don't know how you have to do it. Pull

1033
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: me over, or just walk on the sidewalk and stop

1034
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: and say give me your ID. I can ask you,

1035
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: but you don't have to give an I don't have

1036
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: to give it you. I can ask you, but then

1037
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:25,959
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find a reason to take your after jail.

1038
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: Why would you do that? You're blocking the sidewalk. No,

1039
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: I'm walking, said walking. I'll find I'll find a reason.

1040
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 1: I'll find a reason to legally. I mean, if you

1041
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: want to fight it, fight it, because because all he's

1042
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: gonna do is wrack up some paperwork. His superiors is

1043
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: gonna say what you got on this guy? Nothing, and

1044
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna get out to fo he's been going there.

1045
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: But because if you ain't got no worts, why not

1046
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 1: just give the idea? Why fight them about it? And

1047
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: why not just compliance say the principality the principality of it,

1048
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: and then you can fight it. One time I got

1049
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: told quick story. I got pulled over and I had

1050
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 1: a legal gun in the back seat, locked, and they

1051
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 1: asked me, can we go in that box and look

1052
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 1: at your gun to make sure it's unloaded because you

1053
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: can't have it loaded in the state of California. I said, no,

1054
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 1: you can't go in that box, and they made it

1055
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 1: a forty five minute or deal. They said, just give

1056
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: us the key and let us look. Not I could

1057
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: have just been Mr. Nice guy, here's the key, go

1058
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: take a look. But I have a right to my privacy.

1059
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Speaker 1: I covet my privacy, So I said no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: no no. I had to sit there. Then they handcuffed me.

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Speaker 1: It took an hour before one of the superior officers

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01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: said you gotta let him go, you know, but I

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01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: could have got out of there in five minutes, right Reggie,

1064
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 1: I would have been gone. No one was scratched out. No, no, no,

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01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: it's a complete legit gun. But the point is I

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01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: could have been at it in five minutes. Here's the key,

1067
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: go check it out. But I'd rather exercise my rights,

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01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: maintain my privacy, and deal with it for an hour,

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01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 1: hour and a half get handcuffed for thirty minutes. And

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01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 1: you know, how many of us know that, how many

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01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 1: of us know our rights. That's why you really getting

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01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 1: funked out there on the streets because we don't know

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01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: our rights, and the police know that. I'm gonna give

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01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: one right across a good offer you did, and let

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Speaker 1: me just tell you why. That's all he had to do,

1076
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: was saying, as he was approaching your car, he saw

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01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 1: you placing the gun inside of the log box and

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01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: locked there. Well, he immediately figured out, oh, this is

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01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 1: a professor from cal State Long Beach. This guy's as

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01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: a professional. He's not just no chump off the streets.

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Speaker 1: In fact, when I opened up my glove box, he said,

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01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 1: that box of bullets in your in your glove compartment

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01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 1: is probable cause I said no, it's not. Because he

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01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: wanted to really go in there. His partner said, let's

1085
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,479
Speaker 1: get the bolt cutters. Let's let's call in the bolt

1086
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 1: cutters and break that thing open. I said, y'all, do

1087
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 1: what you gotta do, but I'm not freely giving you

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01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 1: the key so you can go search my gun. I

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01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 1: have no no criminal record, gun is registered. Do what

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01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 1: you'll want to do. And you know what that gun

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01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: was in the front seat. They could arrestue you because

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01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 1: they call it. It's called arm reach. Arms reach from

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01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: you know, just saying that the most people because just

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01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: because you don't have a you know, the bullets in there,

1095
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: but all of that's an arm reach is because still

1096
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 1: consider loaded. That's but that's Jay's point that we don't

1097
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: you know, most people don't know that, you know, and

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01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: I don't think it being in the front seat is illegal.

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01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: It's still like unloaded, and it's and the bullets. But

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01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: the point was, because the bullets is an arms reach

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01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 1: in the glove compartment. Can you give me and the viewers,

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01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 1: the people that's listening one low that we all shouldn't know.

1103
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: Here's one that I think everyone should exercise. You never

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01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 1: have to show your I D to a law enforcement

1105
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 1: officer unless you're driving a motor vehicle, if you're a pedestrian,

1106
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: if you're walking through the mall, if you're sitting in

1107
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: the park. You never have to show an i D.

1108
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 1: Only if you're driving a car or a motorcycle or

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01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 1: a motor vehicle. And you you know the law that

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01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: says that you must have if you're eighteen years of

1111
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: eight that you must have a California or an I D.

1112
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 1: You don't have to show your I D. But you

1113
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 1: have to get to it. But did you know you're

1114
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 1: supposed to have Yeah, when you turn eighteen, you're supposed

1115
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 1: to go to the d m V and get your

1116
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: I d's. And I believe that's before UM so that

1117
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: you can get drafted in case there's a war and

1118
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 1: everyone knows who you know. It's not federal laws to

1119
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: state law. I know, but I think it's just like um, well,

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01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 1: it's kind of not it's a federal it's not federal,

1121
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,919
Speaker 1: but it's kind of federals. Like alcohol, the Feds made

1122
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: every state make it twenty one. Some states were eighteen seventeen.

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01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 1: Even though it's not federal, it is a federal law.

1124
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 1: The drinking is twenty one and over, but you don't

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01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 1: have to show your i D to a police. I

1126
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 1: was just saying that I would just jump back onto

1127
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 1: by saying that you most people don't know that. You

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01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 1: think you're supposed to have that and try to learn

1129
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 1: that law. And then the police stopped. But please, but

1130
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: you don't become calm combat. But that can create a

1131
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 1: com combative situation where I tell an officer I'm not

1132
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 1: I'm not showing you my i D. Why can't the

1133
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 1: officers just say, all right, I'll respect you're right. It's

1134
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 1: never that easy. It's never that easy. What are you

1135
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 1: hiding from me? Are you? Are you on the run?

1136
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 1: You got warrants? Are you a criminal? I mean, have

1137
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 1: I committed a crime? No, you're just sitting in the

1138
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 1: park my business? YEA. Just better hope I got damn

1139
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 1: camera or something got me committing crime. This is all

1140
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 1: I hear to say. And no, I mean you can

1141
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 1: video tape anywhere, you can stand anywhere. You won't. But

1142
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 1: they come with some some different ship and then they

1143
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 1: try to take that law from you. If you ain't

1144
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 1: sharp on your game, they're gonna bull those right over

1145
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 1: your rights. I used to open carry here in California.

1146
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 1: It became illegal, like in two thousand thirteen or fourteen.

1147
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 1: I'll be sitting in the Starbucks patio with my straps.

1148
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 1: Let me let me clarify that open carry a loaded

1149
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. Open carry means it's not loaded, you

1150
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 1: have your you have a magazine on the other side.

1151
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 1: Because you know who who caused that problem for the

1152
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 1: loaded firearm of being a problem? What's that? The Black

1153
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 1: Panther Party? Oh yeah, yeah, well that was um yeah

1154
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: that Ronald Reagan changed the laws that didn't allow them

1155
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 1: to be armed. I mean they walked right into em

1156
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 1: in the gun. Yeah, but what they were doing at

1157
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 1: that time was legal, the shotguns and they were at

1158
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:34,479
Speaker 1: the Capitol. But open carry was legal in California, meaning

1159
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 1: you can carry your gun as long as it's not loaded.

1160
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 1: You can have your bullets hosted on the opposite side.

1161
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 1: They made that illegal in two thousand fourteen. But I

1162
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 1: used to open carry, walked through the market, Um, go

1163
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: to Starbucks, and people would call the police, this guy's

1164
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: walking around here with a gun, and they would pull

1165
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:53,439
Speaker 1: up army. After a while they knew who I was.

1166
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 1: But you gotta let them. You put your hands up.

1167
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 1: They want to go check it, they can check it

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01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 1: they want, they just want to make sure it's not loaded. Yeah,

1169
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 1: but then they made it illegal, you know, so I

1170
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 1: would I used to tell people all the time, Hey,

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01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 1: it's you can open carry in the state of California,

1172
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 1: not just Texas, but you can open carry in the

1173
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 1: state of Texas right now. Unfortunately, well fortunately for some people.

1174
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 1: But I feel like unfortunately they're trying to infringe on

1175
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: our right, our gun rights, and they made it illegal

1176
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 1: just like four or five years ago. They gotta do

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Speaker 1: something about the training and know these people with guns,

1178
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 1: because it was a situation where this white girls just

1179
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 1: uh tastdown is uh a guy at a hit and

1180
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 1: run doing a hit and run and shout and killed

1181
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 1: him Oklahoma. I think it was the state of Oklahoma

1182
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 1: where these people with the you know, with the rights

1183
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 1: to carry guns and stuff, is um, you gotta because

1184
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 1: there's no mandate that you have to go practice shooting

1185
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 1: your gun. They need to train winter use now how

1186
01:07:56,560 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 1: to use win because this point of on girl going on,

1187
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 1: she's gonna go to jail for a long time. I

1188
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 1: think that she was doing the right thing. Well, question'll

1189
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: off the topics topics which you heard anything about the

1190
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 1: truth is going on right now, is it? I know

1191
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 1: that it's been it's been quiet in certain areas in

1192
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 1: l in l A. But in other areas there was

1193
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 1: just a shooting yesterday, Um in the forties neighborhood. There

1194
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 1: was a shooting yesterday in forties crip neighborhood for people,

1195
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,759
Speaker 1: And that's the misconception. It was just certain areas where

1196
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 1: the truths was on up anyway, right, Well, I don't

1197
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: know what it was, but the people that were at

1198
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 1: that march were mostly from the west side, west side

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01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,639
Speaker 1: hoods in Hay Trade sixties. Uh, there were some inglewood

1200
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 1: families there, there were some rolling forties there, there were

1201
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 1: people from the east side, but it was when you

1202
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 1: looked at the crowd, it was mostly West side crips

1203
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 1: and that was that was a good thing. But I

1204
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 1: don't know any anytime you got brothers not killing each other,

1205
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 1: that's a good thing. So I don't know. We'll we'll

1206
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 1: come back to that question, um next week. You should

1207
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 1: keep an update on show everybody and know because to me,

1208
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 1: it's kind of like faded away. You don't hear no

1209
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 1: more about NIPCI no more. You don't hear no more

1210
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:17,799
Speaker 1: about the truth. So I mean if people not interested

1211
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 1: in knowing what was really going on with that situation

1212
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 1: on well, I like to say law enforcement want to

1213
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 1: keep it going so they can stay jobs. He don't

1214
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 1: know they can make money out d U I r

1215
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 1: s and get me a sign and go go, go

1216
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 1: get the d U I r s domestic violence, putting

1217
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 1: their kids through college right now. Man, But they're doing

1218
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 1: somewhere else writing tickets. They they just get reassigned. If

1219
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:49,679
Speaker 1: there's a reduction in crime, they get reassigned. Okay, they'll

1220
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 1: get me a signed. But can can the chief argue

1221
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 1: I want to hire more cops like they do all

1222
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, because I got I had five traffic

1223
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 1: accidents involving d U I s. So I wanna set

1224
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: up some d U I uh. But we got less

1225
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 1: crime than there was ten years ago, So why do

1226
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 1: you need more cops? You know, it's just it doesn't

1227
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 1: make sense. I'm just trying to cops mainly done by

1228
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 1: by the amount of people that's in the area. You

1229
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 1: don't want to put all the white people unemployment. Next

1230
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:24,679
Speaker 1: week we're talking about gipsy hustle. Next week because his lawyer,

1231
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 1: Christopher Darton, who was the prosecutor for the o J

1232
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 1: case back in the nineties. He quit, Yeah, he quit.

1233
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 1: I think it's back last I think he really took

1234
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 1: that case. You said that his family might have some money.

1235
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: I always said, I think he was doing a cloud chasing,

1236
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 1: and I really think that cloud his name out there

1237
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:44,720
Speaker 1: and his cloud chasing backfires on him. All right, we'll

1238
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 1: talk about that next week on the next episode of

1239
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:49,639
Speaker 1: The Gangster Chronicles. I want to thank all y'all out

1240
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 1: there for listening. Please go to the Instagram page Gangster

1241
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 1: Chronicles and submit some questions, submit some ideas, and we'll

1242
01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:00,679
Speaker 1: talk about that next week if we like your question,

1243
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 1: and don't forget to also visit my platform street tv

1244
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:07,679
Speaker 1: to check out that interview of the Emerald Gangster Bloods

1245
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 1: from Southeast San Diego and until next week. Thank you.

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