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Speaker 1: What's up, Brenson. Welcome back to the Fantasy Pros Dynasty

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Speaker 1: Baseball Podcast. I'm your host, Chris Welsh. Thank you guys

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Speaker 1: so much for coming and hanging out with us today.

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Speaker 1: Where I'm welcoming in Jesse Severe, host of the Dynasty

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Speaker 1: Sports Life Podcast. Actually a very long time friend of mine.

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Speaker 1: The Dynasty Sports Life podcast is actually a part of

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Speaker 1: the In This League podcast network, And what is most

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Speaker 1: fascinating about Jesse is this is one of the best,

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Speaker 1: just baseball. The Dynasty Sports Life podcast covers multiple sports football, basketball, hockey,

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Speaker 1: and baseball. So we're talking to a premier Dynasty player

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Speaker 1: So Jesse is going to be joining us here in

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Speaker 1: it's Dynasty time and here he is, my guy, Jesse

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Speaker 1: Severe from Dynasty Sports Life. Jesse, what's up, buddy.

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Speaker 2: Hey man, I'm doing great, Welsh love talking to a little

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Speaker 2: Dynasty Baseball. Appreciate doing this with you today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jesse is one of the better Dynasty players I

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Speaker 1: have ever known. I've played with him a long time

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Speaker 1: and he's also a crazy person because of not only

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Speaker 1: the Dynasty Sports Life is baseball, but it is multi sport,

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Speaker 1: and you talk a lot of different sports. So it's

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Speaker 1: actually uniquely fun because it gives a different perspective in

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Speaker 1: how different sports battle and use dynasty, whether it's ranks

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Speaker 1: or drafting habits. And you know, football dynasty is so

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Speaker 1: different than baseball dynasty. Baseball dynasty in its own might

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Speaker 1: having credible values. And that has obviously been a trend

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Speaker 1: type of questions battling old versus new, and Jesse, let's

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Speaker 1: just jump right into it. It's Manny Machado, because Manny

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Speaker 1: Say to you with many Machado sitting around fifty is

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Speaker 2: I would say he is. You know, thirty one is

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Speaker 1: But you know, the things to consider long term are

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Speaker 1: in the fifties, Mania Machado is kind of sneaky. How

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Speaker 1: about this one for you. How about a World Series

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Speaker 1: I want to point out, but this is Marcus Simeon

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Speaker 1: guy that has continuously done it. But it's the Angel

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Speaker 1: Dynasty question. It is older age versus many, many many

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Speaker 1: years coming in of future production. Marcus Simeon projected in

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Speaker 1: Marcus Simeon, But in some cases people would value Jordan

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not to repeat what you said, but here's a

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Speaker 2: way that I like to classify the dynasty value. There's

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Speaker 2: You know, you want him young and you want a productive.

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Speaker 2: If you get guys who are both, that's the top.

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Speaker 2: If you get guys who are one or the other,

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Speaker 2: that's cool. And if you get guys who are neither one,

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Speaker 1: So there might be a third element that you add

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Speaker 1: you do have to consider the age to projection element

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Speaker 1: for a guy like Jordan Lawler versus the production of

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Speaker 1: what you're going to see in Simeon. So sorry, I

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, you're absolutely right. I should have clarified that

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Speaker 2: that that's what age is. You don't just get to

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Speaker 2: we're really this is the ultimate battle of one versus

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Speaker 2: So you know, it's probably when you're the end. I

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Speaker 2: think though at this point, I'm probably still taking Simeon

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Speaker 1: But like I think, if you start building in, if

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Speaker 2: Don't you think, Yeah, for sure, you could get away

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Speaker 2: a Lawler for Simeon trade. That would be a win

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Speaker 2: thing with Simeon. Lawler is so much younger Simeon, You're

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Speaker 2: two runs was it one hundred and one hundred rbi?

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Speaker 2: He had one hundred rbi leading off every game of

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Speaker 2: This is the absolutely historic value is the problem here?

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Speaker 2: Compared to Lawler? We have to consider to Again, I

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Speaker 2: love Lawler, I think he's going to come to be

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Speaker 2: very valuable, but it's always a percentage play, right. If

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Speaker 2: there's a seventy five percent chance that Lawler is going

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Speaker 2: to be all that we think Lawler is going to be,

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Speaker 2: that's great. But the road to great dynasty teams, if

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Speaker 2: you look back on trades, it's littered with guys who

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's well said, and you know, I would point

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Speaker 1: You know, cj Abrams last year did not have any

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Speaker 2: For you, boy, Cody Bellinger, the player who a good

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Speaker 2: He's only like twenty three now, so there's not at

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Speaker 2: that solid first baseman who's going to go out there

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Speaker 1: he can't keep doing it. He keeps doing it. This

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Speaker 1: Putting in projections here for Steamer, just for everybody for

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Speaker 2: Those are the only people in the world more confused

429
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,439
Speaker 2: by jazz than I am. I think, And because this

430
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 2: jazz jazz chisholm, I don't know what to make of him.

431
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:20,120
Speaker 2: I guess I'm a Jazz fader. I just can't buy

432
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 2: him because the guy can't stay healthy and there is

433
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 2: just that risk with a hit tool, and the upside

434
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,360
Speaker 2: is so high with this guy, and you win with stars.

435
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 2: Jazz has the better chance of being a star for

436
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 2: the long term. But there's some things. Garcia is only

437
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 2: four years older than Jazz. It's not as big of

438
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 2: an age gap as you would think. And the mileage

439
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 2: on Garcia is limited. I mean, during the pandemic seasons

440
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 2: in his first seasons in MLB, he didn't play a

441
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 2: whole offul lot. You know, his minor league career tapered

442
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,479
Speaker 2: off in like twenty eighteen or something like that, so

443
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 2: the mileage is lower on him, you know. Coming I

444
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 2: believe he was a Cuban who came to the United States.

445
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 2: I remember when he came over. Well, she were doing

446
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 2: prospecting at that time, and I remember that stuff coming in.

447
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 2: But Jazz can't put on a shoe until January either.

448
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 2: You know, he's got some pretty serious offseason surgery going

449
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 2: on here. I guess, you know, I hope that this

450
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 2: is not small sample recency bias. With the World Series

451
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,360
Speaker 2: and Adulas Garcia being briefly the best player in the universe,

452
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 2: it seemed, but I just don't trust Jazz objectively. If

453
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 2: you're swinging for the Dynasty upside, it probably is Jazz.

454
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 2: But I would rather have Adullus on my team.

455
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, this one I struggle with. I believe, if I'm

456
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 1: looking here, I actually have Adulies higher than Jazz. I

457
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: have him inside the top fifty. Many others do not.

458
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 1: I've got Jazz right at that top fifty marker. Jazz

459
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: has only played over one hundred games once in four years.

460
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 1: It's crazy. He's never played one hundred and twenty five

461
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 1: games in a season. Adulis Garcia has played at least

462
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty eight games three straight seasons. Has

463
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 1: cut his strikeout percentage every single year, has raised his

464
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: walk percentage every single year, and has maintained in the

465
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: two forty batting average range every single year that I

466
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 1: mentioned as well, his barrel percentage and hard hit has

467
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: raised every single year. Projections thirty one homers quite a

468
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: drop on the homers, but double digit stolen bases. You know,

469
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: Jazz is they're actually about five years difference. If you

470
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 1: add in months, by the way, so there is a

471
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: significant difference. But if you're talking about usage on those wheels,

472
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 1: there's not a lot there with the Dolese, and you're

473
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: going to get pretty massive production. So we've picked on

474
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 1: a couple of rangers that are older. But you know,

475
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 1: I don't think you lose with Jazz like you do

476
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 1: with some of these other dynasty options. It's just the

477
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 1: mistime is where you lose. So we both have taken

478
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: a Dolese heer. So some pitching questions, I throw this

479
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: just directly out to you, like the many machado about

480
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: Corbyn Burns. Corbin Burns has faded in some eyes, had

481
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 1: really weird see this year. At one time it was

482
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: probably an easy top twenty five dynasty asset. And I

483
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,239
Speaker 1: know this sounds crazy as a picture, but things are

484
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: moving in the little bit the wronger. I don't want

485
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: to say it's like drastically because he did find himself

486
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: some this year. But Corbyn Burns, I think one of

487
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: the more polarizing twenty nine year old. This is a

488
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: good time for pictures, but may not be with the Brewers.

489
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: What say you on his dynasty value? Should he be

490
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: higher than fifty. And you know, what's your general consensus

491
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 1: on him in dynasty.

492
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 2: Well, as you know, I'm sitting here in Wisconsin and

493
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 2: I am close to following the Brewers, and I would

494
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 2: tell you stat cast for Corbyn Burns is redder than

495
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 2: camp Randall on a football saturday out in Madison. It

496
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 2: is still looking great on stat cast for this guy,

497
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 2: Corbyn Burns. It's he's still elite everywhere that it counts.

498
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 2: As far as I'm concerned now, I think the thing

499
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 2: that's gonna happen with Corbyn Burns in the near future

500
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 2: is it's all going to be about when is he

501
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 2: going to be traded? Where is he going to go?

502
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 2: And what kind of a park is he going to

503
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 2: land in? You know what is going to happen to

504
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 2: him at that point because he's kind of graduating from

505
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 2: that arbitration year thing that he's in now. Marking any

506
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 2: picture as at the top of the rings like that

507
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 2: in the top fifty is an extremely dicey proposition. But

508
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 2: I think Corbyn Burns is going to bounce into that

509
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 2: territory off and on. I don't know that I would

510
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: get him all the way into the top fifty, but

511
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 2: I still think if he's in your sixties or your seventies,

512
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 2: he's still going to be, you know, in my ranks.

513
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 2: In my estimation, I put probably guys who are still

514
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 2: in my top ten pictures in that range. I think

515
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: Corbyn Burns definitely belongs in that part of the conversation.

516
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 1: Corbyn Burns or Tyler Glasstow Dynasty.

517
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 2: Absolutely Corbyn Burns. I don't think. I don't see glass

518
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: Snow on that level.

519
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: Corbyn Burns or Luis Castillo. Castillo's about a year and

520
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 1: a half older than Corbyn Burns but has been absolute elite.

521
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Burns still on that one. I you know, Castillo's great,

522
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 2: but I think Burns is still going to give you,

523
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 2: deliver you more.

524
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: How about Corbin Burns are Uri Perez?

525
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 2: Why you get to do that to me?

526
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: Chris?

527
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 2: Why you get it do that to me? I think

528
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 2: in Dynasty, Uri Prez might actually be valued higher. But boy,

529
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 2: it's a small sample, isn't it. He's incredibly young you

530
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 2: want to talk about. I mean, Burns is already want

531
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 2: to say young, right, I mean, and he he's had

532
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 2: the chance to fall off that rate. But what are

533
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 2: we expecting from Uri Perez? Are we thinking he's going

534
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 2: to be doc goodin for twenty straight years? I mean,

535
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 2: what Uri is going to have up years and down years?

536
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 2: I think at this point the better play in Dynasty

537
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 2: would be to take Corbyn Burns. But that doesn't mean

538
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 2: that Uri Prez isn't going to have an amazing career.

539
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: It's an interesting battle with the pitchers overall. What is

540
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: your overarching thesis on starting pitchers and Dynasty and specifically

541
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: Top one hundred, Like, what type of an investment are you? You?

542
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 1: Steadfast like? I will not have you know, let's say

543
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: you're doing a startup Dynasty draft. Win is the first

544
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: time you're really considering pitching or you like hard stray

545
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: away from pitching in Dynasty.

546
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 2: Well, the problem with pitching is it's absolutely the worst,

547
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 2: except it's also half the game. So we're stuck. We

548
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 2: have to have pitchers. We can't win without them. You

549
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 2: can't win with him, you can't win without him. I

550
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 2: think in some ways my new philosophy and I haven't

551
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: checked this out statistically yet, but I'm starting to feel

552
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 2: in my life like I never want to Trutch Tuss

553
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 2: trust a hitter over thirty, and I never want to

554
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: trust a pitcher under thirty because I think the older

555
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 2: pitchers are the ones who consistently deliver value, and the

556
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 2: twenty seven year old starting pitchers are the ones who

557
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 2: consistently deliver heartache. I want to see guys like Corbin

558
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 2: Burns who put up several years of consistent value, and

559
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: Luis Castillo the same way. Over reliance on the Uri

560
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 2: Perez's of the world. Even though URI's stuff is absolutely

561
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: doggone amazing, it's it's rare to have a picture who's

562
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: going to spend most of his twenties producing at an elite,

563
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 2: super elite level. There's going to be all kinds of fluctuation.

564
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 2: So in terms of when I take them in a

565
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: dynasty startup, I think I can get them a little

566
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 2: bit later. I did a startup dynasty this year my

567
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 2: four sport diesel leak that I run through the DSL

568
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: pod and I got an amazing number of pictures of courts.

569
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 2: That one also has a salary component to it, So

570
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: a lot of guys were falling through, but I got

571
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: Nola and Snell and you know, a whole bunch of

572
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 2: guys who fell through the cracks. Because people don't want

573
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 2: to trust the pictures. They fade the pictures, and everybody

574
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 2: I think over invests in glass nows and perezes in

575
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 2: terms of the actual value they're going to give you.

576
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: It wasn't a dynasty, but I just did a mock

577
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: with CBS, and I did.

578
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 2: I did.

579
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: I tried a strategy where I just waited on pitching.

580
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: I waited, wait to wait, and this's not dynasty, but

581
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: I wait. I waited to the eleventh round for my

582
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: first starter, and I ended up getting these old, boring guys.

583
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: But I got like Shane Bieber and Sonny Gray, and

584
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: I was just getting guys that could eat innings with strikeouts.

585
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: I didn't hate it. I took closers early, and again

586
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: this was redraft. I got my closers early, I got

587
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: lots of hitters, speed power, and then I just took

588
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: some old, more boring values. And I think one thing

589
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: we might be pulling out of this as well, when

590
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: you get into that post fifty range. I think this

591
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: is signifying guys at Corbyn Burns and many Machado might

592
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: be buys in Dynasty right now because their value is

593
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: just ultimately lower and pitching in general is tougher. Though

594
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: I will say this, It is better to it is

595
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: easier to acquire pitching in startup dynasties than it is

596
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: trading for them in dynasties. I find trading four pitching

597
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: in dynasty incredibly difficult, pending the league a couple other

598
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: ones A plow through here. This is a pitching philosophy thing.

599
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: You've kind of already answered this, but I'm gonna give

600
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: you two pairings. These are pitchers that live in the

601
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: fifty one to one hundred dynasty range. You can have

602
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: Bobby Miller with the Los Angeles Dodgers breakout season and

603
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: Kyle Bradish who just had a huge breakout season with

604
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: the Orioles. Versus you can have Joe Ryan with the

605
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: Twins or Aaron Nola free agent who just kind of

606
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: rebounded off of his dynasty value being pretty low. So

607
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: these are a little bit older, more track record pitchers

608
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: versus huge upside in Bobby Miller with the Dodgers and

609
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: Kyle Bradish with the Orioles. Again, they sit in that range,

610
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: but you can have one of these two pairings.

611
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 2: Boy, this is tough, but here's how I would approach this.

612
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: I'm going to take Bradish and Ryan and I'm going

613
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 2: to cross them off and say that I've got a

614
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 2: little bit of a par situation there. These are both

615
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 2: guys who we didn't really expect to jump up the

616
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: way that they did this year. These are both guys

617
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 2: who are not overwhelming fastball type stuff. Especially Ryan does

618
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 2: not have it like that. And so I'm going to

619
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: take those two and say they're roughly equivalent. And then

620
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 2: it turns into to Miller versus Nola, and that's no easier.

621
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,719
Speaker 2: We have one of these super races that you know,

622
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,959
Speaker 2: it had a down year relative to his overall career,

623
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: versus the Bobby Miller who's coming up, who's coming into

624
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 2: that world. And I'm just telling you, I think that

625
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: Aaron Nola is going to be my pick here. And

626
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: this is so hard. I keep dissing these young pitchers.

627
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 3: But how many guys, yeah, like, how many superstar, top

628
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 3: prospect twenty four year old pitchers have had careers that

629
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 3: are worse than Adam wayn Wright's after he got boring,

630
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 3: you know, like at like thirty four plus year old

631
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 3: Adam Waynwright had that was a better fantasy career then

632
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 3: most of the guys who come up who we want

633
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 3: all this from I want the upside.

634
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 2: I get it. Bobby Miller could be great. I think

635
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: Bobby Miller is going to drive people crazy for the

636
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 2: next couple of because that's what happens with these young guys.

637
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: One more battle, one more breakdown, and then the quick

638
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: hitters KODEI Senga versus Blake Snell. We have no idea

639
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: where Blake Snell's going to go coming off a huge year.

640
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: If you were at the first Pitch conference, you would

641
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: know some people do not like Blake Snell this coming year.

642
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: Projections probably not as favorable with the high walks. Quote.

643
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: I Singa fixed some of his walk issues with big

644
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: strikeout numbers, so you got to take a bet. I

645
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: think these guys are right around the same age. I

646
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: think Senga's thirty and I think Snell is thirty one,

647
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: so I could have that. I'll look while you're going here,

648
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: but pick your side, Senga or Snell.

649
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: Well. I think the poltergeists in Petco liked Blake Snell

650
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: and hated everybody else because Blake got himself a pretty

651
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 2: good run this year. That part of the whole thing

652
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: on him is how long of an outing is he

653
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: going to get, you know, because it's sort of been proven.

654
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: This is one of the guys who benefits from being

655
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 2: pulled earlier. It's not just in that World Series game

656
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: where that turned out to be true. Blake Snell was

657
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 2: out over his skis this year. Code I Senga was

658
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 2: quietly pitching wonderfully this year, And even if Snell walks

659
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 2: away with the hardware this offseason, I think I'm gonna

660
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 2: take Code I Singa in terms of what he's going

661
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 2: to become in the future. Snell has had some very

662
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 2: frustrating seasons. He's had some great seasons, and it's really

663
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 2: hard to tell what you're going to get next. CODEI

664
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: is established, We've got a track record from him, albeit

665
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 2: not all in MLB, and I don't know, maybe this

666
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 2: is playing against the type of what I've been saying

667
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: to the other ones, but I like Kodai here, how

668
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 2: about you.

669
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: You know, they're actually about the same age, by the way.

670
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: I think Snell might be a couple months older. Yeah,

671
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: Snell's like two months older, but they're both thirty. You know,

672
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: It's interesting Blake Snell actually has a better expected era

673
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: than CODEI Singer and CODAI sang is coming off of

674
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: a three ERA season. Their walks were generally the same,

675
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: and Snell's k per nine is almost a full k

676
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: pre nine higher. You don't have the home run issues,

677
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,439
Speaker 1: not that Senga had. I think I actually lean Blake

678
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: Snell a little bit, and I really like Kodai Senga,

679
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: and I'm targeting him here. I'm there. I know there

680
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: are some absolute command concerns overall with him, and there's

681
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: a huge discrepancy of era to expect the era. But

682
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 1: given the same age, given Snell's ability to start pushing

683
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 1: the innings a little bit more for him to get

684
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 1: I mean one hundred and eighty innings, it's the second

685
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: time he's hit that marker. I think he's pushing health.

686
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: He is a better management of who he is as

687
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: a pitcher. I'm gonna lean Snell on this one. I

688
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: think it's very, very close, though not one hundred percent.

689
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: Kode Senga is a finished product. Speaking of Yoshinobu Yamamoto

690
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: is coming over. He is a huge, huge, huge target

691
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: for a lot of people, but is a huge unknown.

692
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: The simplistic idea behind him is like Kodei Sengo with

693
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: better command, which that would almost build you into being

694
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: inside the top fifty. But what are your thoughts on

695
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: Yoshinobu Yamamoto, also younger than kodey Sing I believe twenty five,

696
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: twenty five to twenty six coming over? Where do you

697
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: think he is an and you feel free to talk

698
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: about him relative to like the guys we've talked about

699
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: Bobby Miller, Bradish, Aaronola, kode I, Sena Lake Snell. Where

700
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: do you think he belongs?

701
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: He is the hotness coming in. He is absolutely one

702
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 2: of the better Japanese prospects or Japanese players we've had

703
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 2: come over in a little bit. And it is just

704
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 2: so uncertain what these guys are going to be. There's

705
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: such a wide variation for players. And Hasan Kim, I

706
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 2: get it, that's Korea, that's not Japan, and Korea is

707
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 2: a little bit lower level of competition. But that's a

708
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: guy who came over and we wanted him to be

709
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: a big thing. And I know we're talking about him

710
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 2: in those prospects stuff.

711
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: Remember how high I was on him too, and how

712
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: wrong it looked.

713
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: Looked in the first year, and then the second year

714
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 2: he was great. You know, he's beloved in the second year,

715
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 2: even the San Diego fans adored him. But Yamamoto is

716
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: just so uncertain if he could come in and beat

717
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: kode I Sena, And I know that's unfair. I can't

718
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: just comp based on the passport that these guys are

719
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 2: coming in with. But I think the reputation he's coming with,

720
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: and I have to rely on the people who have

721
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: a little closer look at the situation, is that he's

722
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: going to be better than Senga and younger. And if

723
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 2: that's the case, I probably would would rate him pretty high.

724
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 2: In this group of pictures that we've talked about so far,

725
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,919
Speaker 2: I do think I would still have burns over him

726
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: and maybe Nola, But beyond that, he's got the you know,

727
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 2: he's got the upside and a little bit of the

728
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 2: maturity that I would think that maybe after a year

729
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 2: or so of adjustment to MLB, he would be right

730
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: up in that level. Now, sometimes it's a matter of,

731
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 2: Like with Senga, part of the thing, you know, he

732
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: was adjusting to MLB, but then the pictures were adjusting

733
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 2: to him too, So we'll have to see what that

734
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 2: process looks like. But how about Yea, I like ya

735
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 2: quite a bit.

736
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: How about Yoshua Yamamoto versus Freddy Peralta, who would you

737
00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: sign on?

738
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 2: Probably, oh, geez, I would probably take Yamamoto because I'm

739
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 2: tired of seeing Peralta hurt missing time. There's a reliability

740
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 2: factor there, so you know, just because he's worn a

741
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 2: Brews jersey, I don't always trust that guy to I

742
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 2: want Yamamoto to be more than what Paralta has been

743
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 2: able to be in the big leagues, and I think

744
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 2: that there's a good chance of that.

745
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: I think Yamamoto is like a top sixty guy. I

746
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: think that's the range that he's got to sit with

747
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 1: potential for hire. I think you're gonna ask yourself real

748
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: questions between him and a Wheeler and him and a Gosman.

749
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: A Gossman and Wheeler both very, very, very productive and

750
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: probably have a couple more years ahead, which I think

751
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: is easier to justify. But you might have an eight

752
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: year gauge gap between those guys. So I think he

753
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: lives in that general vicinity Wheeler Glass now code is Singa.

754
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: He's right in that spot. You can kind of pick

755
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: your poison. Maybe destination will be important. Quick hitters closers

756
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: fifty one to one hundred, you doing it.

757
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 2: No, you can't. Even the most elite. You have to

758
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 2: move closers when you're at that level. You need closers

759
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: when you're close to competing. So I guess maybe you

760
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 2: could draft the very top closers, but no, I'm not

761
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 2: there in the top one hundred.

762
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: Fifty one to one hundred Dynasty rank targets. We've talked

763
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: a lot about guys, and maybe a couple we've talked

764
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: about have been them. Two or three targets in this

765
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: range that you know, respective to wherever you are, you

766
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: just really want to get.

767
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 2: I would say that Riley Green is a guy I

768
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 2: think you might be a little higher on him than

769
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 2: I think the industry consensus might be. But he is

770
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 2: a guy who I think is going to come into

771
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 2: his own and I'm hoping to get in some of

772
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 2: these lower ranges of the top one hundred and Yeah,

773
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 2: looking at this list, a couple guys are right outside.

774
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 2: Alex Bregman I think is kind of in that range.

775
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 2: I think Alex Bregman is underrated and you're going to

776
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 2: be able to get him at the tail end of

777
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 2: the top one hundred and I think he's probably more

778
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 2: like in the seventies and is going to be able

779
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 2: to still plug in a solid piece into your lineup

780
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: for a long time. Vinnie Pasquentino so young and productive.

781
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: We forget because we didn't see him as much last year,

782
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 2: So Vinnie is maybe faded for memory for some of

783
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: the big fantasy players. So those are a couple of

784
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: the guys that I'm thinking about that might sneak up

785
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 2: on people in that top one hundred.

786
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: Lastly, who just miss that's on your mind? A guy

787
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: that you think could maybe even move into the top

788
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: one hundred. There's a very relative question. By the way,

789
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: It's very subjective because there's different ranks and blah blah blah.

790
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: But someone in that like relative outside the top one

791
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: hundred thing that you think is either a target or

792
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: someone that's going to move up this year.

793
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 2: Well, there's a couple of guys I can mention. First

794
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 2: of all, there's the catcher question, and I see like

795
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: a will Smith and a William Contreras hanging out outside

796
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 2: the top one hundred, and I think that they have

797
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 2: a case to knock on the door. Even though catchers

798
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 2: it's a rough life man and the catchers don't always

799
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 2: last a long time, but I like both of those

800
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 2: guys quite a lot. And the other piece is the Reds.

801
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: There are so many of these young Reds popping at

802
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 2: the same time. They're all under twenty five. They all

803
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: have question marks, but they all have upside. Looking at this,

804
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 2: I have doubts about the Christian and Carnacion strands of

805
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 2: the world and the neuelvi Martes of the world, but

806
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: I really like Spencer Steer, who is maybe a little

807
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 2: bit lower. I guess it sort of depends on who's

808
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: looking at it or how they assess it at this point,

809
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 2: but I think Spencer Steer, with the fact that he

810
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 2: can play different positions the production, you can't deny at

811
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 2: that young age. He's going ninety six in NFBC ADP

812
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 2: right now, and I think he's definitely somebody who ought

813
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 2: to be in a top one hundred.

814
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: I like that. Jesse Severe Dynasty Sorts Life. You can

815
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 1: follow him on Twitter at d y N Sports Life.

816
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 1: What do you want to plug?

817
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: Man?

818
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: You can plug the podcast obviously. What do you got

819
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: going on? Let's hear it?

820
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 2: I got that going. I wrote an article on Dynasty

821
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: Fantasy Baseball on fantracks HQ this week, and I'll be

822
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 2: doing a few more of those so you can check

823
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 2: those out. And I do have a second podcast, Fantasy

824
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: Hockey Light, that's all about Dynasty fantasy hockey if you're

825
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 2: feeling that sport as well. But I just really appreciate

826
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: coming on Chris.

827
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: We appreciate it, and like I said, this is a

828
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 1: Dynasty guy that you need to know. Jesse Severe, Dynasty

829
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: Sports Life. Thanks brother.

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00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 2: There you go.

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00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 1: That is the podcast. Thank you guys for hanging out,

832
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: and hopefully you've got a pretty good baseline of some

833
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: of these player evaluations that might be a little bit

834
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: tricky for you in Dynasty. As we've now covered the

835
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: top one hundred ranks. If you've missed any of the

836
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 1: episodes and you're new to it, go back and listen.

837
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 1: We had Eric Cross in episode one and Chris Clegg

838
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: in episode two, both from the Dynasty tool Shed podcast

839
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: where we were able to cover the top fifty. Now

840
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: we are going to be pushing into deeper Dynasty targets

841
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: outside the top one hundred. Coming up on the next episode,

842
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: we've got James Anderson from Rodo Wire, one of the

843
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: top prospect and Dynasty people out there. James is going

844
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: to be joining me for a great conversation as we're

845
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: going to be talking about the post one hundred players,

846
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: deeper sleepers, prospects and stuff like that. I'm pretty confident

847
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: you guys are going to enjoy that one, so make

848
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: sure you are subscribed so you notified when the new

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00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: episode does drop. Thank you again for hanging out with me.

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Speaker 1: Where you can find me on Twitter at is It

851
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Speaker 1: the Welsh for aning of your Dynasty stuff. Until next time,

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Speaker 1: we'll go deep into the Dynasty baseball world right here

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