1 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Hey, welcome in. I'm gotli been this. He is all ball, 2 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: all hoop, all the time. I think you're gonna love. 3 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: I think I love this week's podcast. Um, that's because 4 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: we have a a special guest, Um Andrew uh Combo salad. 5 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: You can um. You can follow him on social media 6 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: on the Graham um at one to Combo. Of course, 7 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: you can fall him on Twitter. You can download his podcast. 8 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: He's a former professional basketball player mostly in Israel, although 9 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: it spent a little bit of time in Denmark. Grew 10 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: up in New York City, and you're gonna follow his journey. 11 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: It's kind of a unique right. Didn't play Division one basketball, 12 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: didn't play Division two, Division three, bounced around high schools. 13 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: How do you get the playing overseas? How did it 14 00:00:54,360 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: all happen? You will? Uh, you will, you will find out. Um, 15 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: he's gonna join us momentarily. I you know, look, we're 16 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: getting ready here for this upcoming NBA season. I have 17 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: some really good guests set to join us. But as 18 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: we get ready for college and college basketball kind of weird. 19 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: Does feel like there's been this mass upheaval and I'm 20 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: not sure that we've done a good enough job of 21 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: covering it coach k this is last year. Roy Williams 22 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: is retired, Jim Beeheim still going strong. But once you 23 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: have you know, a name like a Roy Williams retiring, 24 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,279 Speaker 1: you're having a lot of of guys that had a chance. 25 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: Jason Terry um Um a Damon Stotdom are leave the 26 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: college game. You have overtime Elite, you have the G 27 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: League ignite team, you have all of these challenges. I'm 28 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: gonna be fascinated by college basketball and this could be 29 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: the last year of the Big Twelve. Is currently um 30 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: a constitute And obviously what happens with Kansas is paramount 31 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: for the sport. But I think it's gonna be interesting 32 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: what happens in Oklahoma. There's a program that's been really 33 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: successful through multiple head coaches, but how do they look 34 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: in the sec that that part is going to be 35 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: really interesting. I will get to more of that in 36 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: a second. First, though, let's catch up with Andrew selim Um. 37 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: Let's let's start at the very beginning. You grew up 38 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: where Riverdale, New York in the Bronx. H Riverdale, New 39 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: York in the Bronx. You don't know my actually from 40 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 1: the Bronx um, early on, like middle school days. Where 41 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: are you playing? Oh, middle school days? Wow? Well in 42 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: the parks of in you know, all kinds of leagues. 43 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: I went to a lot of different high schools. I 44 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: mean I went up to a lot of different middle 45 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: schools and high schools just for basketball reasons. Um. Yeah. 46 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: It was a private school in New York called York 47 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: Prep that was one of them. And then I ended 48 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 1: up transferring to St. Thomas More, which was a prep 49 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: school really young. So yeah, I was all over the place. 50 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: So man, I was all over the place. Doug, Okay, 51 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: So but what's your what's your family situation? It's good. 52 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: You know, Riverdale is you know, middle class, the upper 53 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: middle class Jewish community and the Bronx. Um, yeah, it 54 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: was a good situation. You know, my my parents aren't 55 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: basketball people, kind of like your dad. They weren't that 56 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: so I had to figure out the game on my 57 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: own to some degree. But you know, he put me 58 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: in positions to be great, Like they sent me to 59 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: basketball camp, the game in my space whenever I want 60 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: to play. They never shunned me away from playing the game. 61 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: But my upbringing was great. I mean it just because 62 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: it's interesting. So my dad grew up in Bronx. His 63 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: dad was u like self may man, like an accountant, 64 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: and then eventually they moved out to Long Island when 65 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: he was a card dealer and became a card dealer 66 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: because like most accountants, you know, you find failing businesses 67 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: and you you know, you get a piece of that business, 68 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: and he turned into very successful one. But but his 69 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: my dad's infatuation with the sport was not met with like, 70 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: oh hey, great support from at home. They thought like, 71 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: this is fun. You got fun, and we get out 72 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: to college and come take over the family business. Right, 73 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 1: So I'm just wondering for you. He grew up in 74 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: a upper middle class Jewish neighborhood in the Bronx, Right, 75 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: You're you're chasing it and you're switching high schools. I'm 76 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: just wondering what that conversation is like at home. No, 77 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: they were great about it. They never tried to steer 78 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: me away from it. They wanted me to do what 79 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: I loved. And my mom will to everybody, I was 80 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: obsessed with basketball since the age of seven. It was 81 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: all I ever wanted to do. Never really talked about 82 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: this much on my podcast, but you know, my mom 83 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: always talks about it to me, like all you ever 84 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: wanted to do was basketball. So yeah, they never shown 85 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: me away from it. I would say that my mom 86 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: would always you know, she would always talk about the 87 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: lawyers and the doctors and how they're so successful. But 88 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: she would never try and steer me in that direction. 89 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: If it makes sense, the Jewish mother wants your kid 90 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: to be a lawyer a doctor. You really screw up 91 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: an account, right, That's that's what that's that's that's what 92 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: it is. Um. Okay, So you get to St. Thomas More. 93 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: How old. I'm fourteen. I'm really young, and you know, 94 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: there was the PG team and I was in the 95 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: JV team because I was young, you know, and a 96 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: lot of great players like Carl Krausser, Julian Sensley. I 97 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,559 Speaker 1: don't know if you remember some of those names, but Carl, 98 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: Carl Carl. Yeah, so Carl was my roommate. He was 99 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: he was older than me. Um, that was you know, 100 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: it was just a great experience. I played JV played 101 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: really well. Um, it was. It was a good experience. 102 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: I mean it was a little bit of a weird school. 103 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: You know, you have to dress up in these suits, 104 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: and there was no girls. It was a little bit strange, 105 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: but for the most part, I got to work on 106 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: my game, you know, getting the gym early and see 107 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: what high level high school basketball was all about from 108 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: a young age. Um, okay, so you stayed there, you see, 109 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: you bound around a bunch of high schools. Where where 110 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: was it? Yeah? So then I left there? Um, went 111 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: to public school tenth grade, played varsity. Was really short still, 112 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: it was like five eight my my my athleticism and 113 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: my height didn't reach up to my skill as yet. 114 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: So you know, it was a tough experience playing varsity 115 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: at that age, but I approved. Quicky, what school? What school? 116 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: Clennon and the Bronx. Okay, yeah, Cleanton, the Bronx guy 117 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: isn't good. We were pretty good, you know, we got 118 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: pretty close to making the Garden, but we didn't get there. 119 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: We had a good run in the playoffs. Okay, so 120 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: that's your sophomore year, your junior year, than what do 121 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: you do? I go to Okay, so now you go 122 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: in another prep school that's up in Massachusetts, right, yes, sir, 123 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: probably in August, Yes, sir, How did you how did 124 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: you connect with the coaches of Winchington. I think I 125 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: was something out a bunch of you know, emails. I 126 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: don't know if it was back then letters, and uh, 127 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: you know, they gave me the go So actually that 128 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: was the year I grew. So they had like a 129 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: varsity team and you're still there, Doug. Okay, they had 130 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: a varsity team and a PG team. So I played 131 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: on the varsity team and I started growing, Like my 132 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: average which was basically B team, I average basically like 133 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: thirty three to thirty five points a game on what 134 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: you would call, you know, the B team. It was 135 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: eleventh grade. Uh yeah, and I started to grow, like 136 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: I grew from like five nine to to six four five, 137 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: you know, really quick. I started playing the both of 138 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: the rama. I improved a lot that year. So that 139 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: was a good experience and I decided to leave right 140 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: after the basketball season, but she left there too. Who 141 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: is on your teaming Well there was Curtis Stinson was there, 142 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: Francisco Garcia was there. Um Mike Lytle, who's now the 143 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: best who's a sneaker YouTuber that you might have heard 144 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: of called Mr Former since it was in my roommate 145 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: with Curtis Stinson as well. So yeah, there was a 146 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: lot of good players there. Um. So you you grew 147 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: from from five eight to six four six five? Yeah, yes, sir, 148 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: maybe five ten to six four or six five. That's crazy. 149 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: I mean you probably probably shouldn't stay back. And I 150 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: stayed back, and I grew from like five ft to 151 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: five nine, So I totally I totally get it. Um. Okay, 152 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: So then you decide why did you decide believe I 153 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: didn't like the school. I just I was so out 154 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: of it. Um. I was missing classes. They didn't kick 155 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: me out yet, but I was on the verge of it. 156 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: I was never a school person, doug um, and I 157 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: just left after and I went back to public school. 158 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: My grades weren't good enough to play senior year. I 159 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 1: knew you were gonna ask me that, so I had 160 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: to take the jukeo route and I went to a Vision. 161 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: So you didn't play basketball your senior You go to 162 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: two prestigious prep schools. You start as a sophomore to 163 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: public school. You go back public year, but you're not 164 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: academically eligible. Yes I am not. So I finished up 165 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: at Clinton UM and I graduate, but you know, schools 166 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: are interested, but there's no way I could go to 167 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: any of them because of my grades, So I had 168 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: to take the Division one Juco d Doug Wow, So 169 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,239 Speaker 1: where'd you go, Westchester? Man. It was a good experience. 170 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: I was an all region player my first year. You know, 171 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: we traveled two places like Idaho, Wyoming, Utah, and I 172 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: think the Juico level is a lot higher level than 173 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: people think. Uh at back then, it was interesting. It 174 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: was kind of like more like the modern game. I 175 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: remember going out to Utah, Wyoming and everybody was jacking threes, 176 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: playing up and down, playing fast, a lot of good players. 177 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: It was a great experience. Um Ron's brother Daniel Artest 178 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: was on my team that year. We had some fun 179 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: playing in Utah. We played well together out there, and 180 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: it was a good experience. I was an all region player. 181 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: Um it went pretty well. We us actually in the 182 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: regional finals on a buzzer beater to a guy I 183 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: ended up playing with in the A B a later 184 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: in my life named Garfield Ricky Johns, who now I 185 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: think it's an assistant coach at Iowa. So we lost him. 186 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: I cried that day. We lost in the Greek in 187 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: the regional championship. Man, but it was a good year, 188 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: so did you stay there for your software? So, Doug, 189 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: you know New York City big street ball is the 190 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: mecca street ball. I played street ball. I tear my 191 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: a c L that year and I have to sit 192 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: out red shirt and then come back the third year 193 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 1: and I wasn't quite the same yet, but we're getting there. 194 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 1: How did you carry your sale? Were playing in playing 195 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: in Nelson Park, in the Bronx outdoors, outdoors. I'm a 196 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: big street ball guy, Doug. I played Indickeman and Rutger like, 197 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: so that was all going on through these years as well. 198 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: So you tear your when you did it? How did 199 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: you do it? That time? Driving hard in transition, somebody 200 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: just bumps me the three pops. They're like, they run 201 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: up to me, You're all right, you're all right. I'm like, 202 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: maybe I am all right. I walk My knee is 203 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: not even really it's hardly there. It's it's buckling. Get 204 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: on the train, you know. Somebody helps me up to 205 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: the stairs. I get home and yeah, man, the next 206 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: ten months was the toughest ten months in my life. 207 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: What'd you so? What'd you tear that first time? A 208 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: C L M C O miniscus H What do you 209 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: have a replacement my Hamstein graph, okay, which is what 210 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: I did from did from mine. So, UM, this is 211 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: a hard one, right because, um, you still had a 212 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: lot of basketball to play, whereas I don't have as 213 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: much to play. But you're not at a major university, 214 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: so it's not there's not somebody on your ass to rehab, right, 215 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: you're just kind of you know, nineteen twenty years old. 216 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: How did you rehab that time? So yeah, I went 217 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: to a great hospital, man, I forgot the name of it. 218 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: It was in Manhattan, kind of new indicment and what 219 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: I forgot Colombia Presbyterian. Yeah, they did a great job 220 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: with me. You know, I was there. I was very 221 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: motivated to get back. I was definitely worried that I'll 222 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: never come back the same, but you know, I thought 223 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: through it. Um, played a lot of video games, did 224 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: a lot of push ups, and went to therapy and 225 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: focused on that. Um. Now it's easier because you have 226 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: YouTube helping you out. Man, you could like rehab on 227 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: your own pretty much if you just watch the right videos. 228 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: Back then wasn't so much. So I was dedicated to 229 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 1: it though. I really wanted to get back and I 230 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: wanted to play professionally eventually. Okay, so your third year, 231 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: you go back back to Westchester. Yeah. Yeah. I wasn't 232 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: quite the same yet. So I played. I played well. 233 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: There was schools, you know, the one's n T two 234 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: is interested. After that year, I don't think I was 235 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: as good as my first year, just in terms of 236 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: a player, but I came back doing something. It's funny. 237 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: I came back. My jump shot wasn't as good, but 238 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: I became more athletic. I was a little too strong 239 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: up top. I lost a little plex, but it was 240 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: just the whole mixture. I wasn't quite there yet. It 241 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: takes like a full year or two to get all 242 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: the way back. But I did have some you know, 243 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: I played well. I played well. There was college is 244 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: interested in you know, grades. Again I didn't have the grades. 245 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 1: So what you decided to do? I decided to play 246 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: in the A B A. Who do you play Teresa? 247 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: Teresa Weatherspoon in the Westchester Fantoms? Wow? What yours? This? Oh? 248 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: Four oh five? Okay, so my recollection of the A 249 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: B A. I was in Phoenix and I had just 250 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: got back. I was playing in Israel and they were 251 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: sucking around with the money and I was tell me 252 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: about it done just I went to the president of 253 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: Maccabi Ranana for a little bit. Doug. Yeah, And I 254 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: went to the president and I said, listen, I'm on 255 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: an Israeli contract. I gotta stay here like two months 256 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: after we lose. Just give me your words, man, I'm 257 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: gonna get every penny and I'm good. And he was like, 258 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: we will do the best that we can. And I 259 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: was like, no, don't. Maybe you didn't understand his translation, 260 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: like I don't know. Just give me your word as 261 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: a man that you know I will be I'll be 262 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: compensated every petty in my contract and you will not 263 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: hear a word from me. And he was like, we cannot. 264 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: I cannot give you my word. I will do is 265 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: the best I can do. And I was like, all right, 266 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: well I'm leaving at after you know, Sunday's game whatever. 267 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: So anyway, so I show up. So I've played two 268 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: games for Phoenix against the Detroit Dogs in Detroit. That 269 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: was interesting downtown Detroit, per Diem. We get back to Phoenix, 270 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: were staying at a staying right across street fro Ma 271 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: Arizona State and our hotel is I'm saying like a 272 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: holiday and but it also has like a Denny's. So 273 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: basically you should have had like your your twenty dollars center, 274 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: the Dennis that's your eating. But my teammates were really talented. 275 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: I was unbelievably talented lead. But we were in Phoenix 276 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: and they all like, we're living with one of the Suns. 277 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: You know, Jamal Thomas. I know Jamal. Jamal is a 278 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: good dude. Yeah, so, uh, Jamal was like living with staff, right, 279 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: so he'd roll up and here we are, we're playing. 280 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: We played one game at Memorial the Phoenix Suns Old Arena, 281 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: and then we played like at this church after that. 282 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: So like we're rolling up making five hundred to a 283 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: thousand a week and he's in like steps escalated with 284 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: like all the all the stuff on Marbury logo, ship 285 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: on it right, like you name it. We had dudes, 286 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: and we had we had a lot of telp So, okay, 287 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: who's on your team in Westchester? Oh man, Jason Stamper 288 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: played at Minnesota. We had we had a couple like 289 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: you know, high level street ball guys that we're super talented, 290 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: super athletic, never went to school. Uh, the actually the 291 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: kid who hit the game winning shot against me and 292 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: to go uh and who ended up Actually you thought 293 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: he was a really good player for the utah Utes 294 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: and now coaches that I ownA Ricky Johns. We had 295 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: a few good guys. Man, We had other guys that 296 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: played at I ownA and you know it was I 297 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: was probably the only juco guy and it was everybody 298 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: else played at a D one and or either like 299 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: that street ball route. So it was interesting. Oh you 300 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: know who's on my team? Headache for man one? He 301 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: was a character. He was a character man, that guy? 302 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: What was what was Teresa as a coach? She was great. 303 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: You know she's so caring, knows what she's talking about. 304 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: It's no surprise like her success she has now to 305 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: me like she's just a great person, you know, great, 306 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: great to play for. Fox Sports Radio has the best 307 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our 308 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com and within the 309 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio app search f s R to listen live. Okay, 310 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: so you get done playing there, now? What Well? An 311 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: agent got some film of mine, realized I was Jewish, 312 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: said I should get my citizenship, went to Israel, worked 313 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: out with teams and you know, played really well in 314 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: a lot of those workouts and ended up signing and 315 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: the second division. Um, it was just you know, all 316 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: that stuff that you talk about with your conversations with 317 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: the guy from Israel is very familiar, like it's there. 318 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to say this, but a lot of 319 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: Israel is a hard to deal with. Man. No, there's listen, 320 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: it's I think what happens is a good portion of 321 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: the negative stereotypes about Jewish businessmen are actually stereotypes about 322 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: Israeli businessman, right, who are Jewish but not necessarily American Jews. Um. 323 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: And I I also think that there's like a some 324 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: of it is is just the region, right, that region, 325 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: and you can you can experience it. So if you've 326 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: ever played and it's not just Israel, but the Middle 327 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: East is very much like this. So four years ago 328 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: I coached the Maccabi Games team, right, and I told 329 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: the guys it was like, look, a day is not 330 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: a day until there's an argument. Okay, just you can 331 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: set your watch by it. There will be an argument 332 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: just about every day. We get on the bus and 333 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: they're like, no, why, I was like, I don't know. Why. 334 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what they're saying. But they will be 335 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 1: talking with their hands and they will be yelling at 336 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: each other, and then they will grab their coffee and 337 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: they will they will say goodbye, and like, I don't know, 338 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: I don't really understand the mentality, but it's something about 339 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 1: that like fighter mentality that Israeli's have. And you'd get 340 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: on the bus, I never get like we landed. You 341 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: landed like five, you know, right, You go to the hotel, 342 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: you check in, and then you have practice like seven 343 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: thirty and so guys, are you like still half asleep? 344 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: And they grab a big water and they get on 345 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: the bus and I was MoMA and like and I 346 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: was I was like, told you it's now, that's a 347 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: day you know. Um, So yeah, no, you're you're right 348 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: there are it can be? I think I think lots 349 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: of guys, lots of young people like, yeah, if I 350 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: don't make it, I'm gonna make in the league. Get down, 351 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna play in the G league. Like that's hard, 352 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: don't make a ton of money, super competitive and oh yeah, 353 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: by the way, I really talented. Not a ton of 354 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: spots and like not great traveling. If you're in a 355 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: bigger city than they were, you know, back rooms the 356 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: c b A. If you're gonna go play overseas, you 357 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: don't know if you're getting your money, you don't necessarily 358 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: know the language. The coaches can be bizarre, you know, 359 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: in their desires. There's a lot of things that kind 360 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: of go on there. So so your first gig is 361 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: with who being you Amina. Um. My teammate was Kenny Williams, 362 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: who used to play for the Indiana Pacers. Kenny, Me 363 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: and Kenny are great friends to this day. Um play great. 364 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: You know, they messed by playing time at times, but 365 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: when I played, I played great. Um. They tried to 366 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: convince me to stay. That's this is funny. They tried 367 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: to convince me to stay the second year after messing 368 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: would be the whole year, and they're like, I'm like, 369 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna go play in the first division, 370 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: Like you know, if you know, this is not really 371 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: for me. They're like, and they were going down to 372 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: the third division. So I'm like, yeah, I'm not gonna 373 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: stay here. They're like, it's good to be very tough, 374 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: and eventually I end up playing in the second biggest 375 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 1: club in Israel called Papolo Jerusalem. So you can't really 376 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: listen to anybody there. You gotta go with your gut. Um. 377 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: And that happened to be the lockout season though, but 378 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: it was an accomplished me. It was an accomplishment for 379 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: me just to get on that team, because you know 380 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: how it is, Doug like, you're fighting with Israelis that 381 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: lived there their whole life and they watched playing the 382 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: national team and they're familiar with these guys, and those 383 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: guys probably don't like you for whatever reason. Even though 384 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: I think I'm a pretty likable guy and I always 385 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: got along with teammates, they kind of resent you because 386 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: they feel you're taking their spots and money. But I 387 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: did end up on the second biggest club in Israel, 388 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: and it was the NBA lockout season. Um Luke Jackson, 389 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: Avery Bradley was there for a little bit. It It 390 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: was stacked. DJ Strawberry, who I think it's underrated players, 391 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: was with us. Um. You know, I was there and 392 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: then they started messing do with my money and I 393 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: had to leave. And just a lot of different different 394 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: places in Israel within all the leagues played really well 395 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: when I played. UM ended up going to Denmark, which 396 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: is one of my great experiences in the Division one 397 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: league in Denmark average thirty three. That was fantastic, Doug, Like, 398 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: you know, all the stuff we say is israelis making 399 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: things tough for me. The Danish people made things so 400 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,719 Speaker 1: easy for me. It was I love Denmark. I love Denmark. 401 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: Countries are incredible clean right yeah, yes, so clean? Like wow, 402 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: why is everything so clean here? Yes? Um? Okay, So 403 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: you go to Denmark, den where then I go back 404 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: to Israel a few years UM, and I realized I 405 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: just couldn't do this anymore. So this lasted, you know, 406 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: ten years altogether. I'm not gonna go through all my teams, 407 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: but you know, second division here, first division there. You know, 408 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: Denmark back to Israel. UM had some really great seasons 409 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: with some teams played all different kinds of roles. Kind 410 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: of was like an overseas you know, journeyman. Um. It 411 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: was a great experience ended up in Israel, and that 412 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: last year I just realized like I was playing well too. 413 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, my game was still there. 414 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 1: I still work on my game to day. I never 415 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: felt and I never lost a love for basketball, but 416 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: I just realized, like being in Israel is not for 417 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: me anymore, man, And I think I want to go 418 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: back to the States. Okay, so when did you come 419 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 1: back stateside seventeen? Then what you decided to do? Well? 420 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: I worked with players, which I still do and started 421 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: a podcast. Man. Um most interested in, uh, you know, 422 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: being in basketball media, either creating my own niche or 423 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: you know, getting with a bigger platform eventually. So I've 424 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: been focused on media on media for a long time now. 425 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: Combos Court Podcast if you could include the bonus episodes 426 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: world with three episodes in a lot of great guests 427 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: like Jay billis join already yourself. I don't even know 428 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: if you remember you're on my poddub Okay, so uh yeah, 429 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: you know all different former NBA players, former media members. 430 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: It's been great and that's something I work on religiously. 431 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: So um, but then you tore your a c L again. 432 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: What working dudes out? See? The thing is is that 433 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: my a CL was never the same after the first surgery, 434 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: and it deteriorated. It deteriorated to a point where it 435 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: wasn't stable anymore. So I had to get surgery again. Okay, 436 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: so you're you're currently rehabing that you're five months and 437 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: did you the hamstring again? Would you do this time? Yeah, 438 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 1: I'm almost at six months now. Hamstring again? Other hamstring 439 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: on the right side, back to my left. Okay, um uh? 440 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: Will you have the unique perspective basically kind of skipping 441 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: college basketball, but that allows how was you You're not 442 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: kind of polluted by the college basketball style of offense 443 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: and defense, and it's it's a different sport right. On 444 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: the other hand, most of your experience as a player 445 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: is an international ball, whereas it's it's different here. Even 446 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: they played in the A B A. So recently you 447 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: went to the NBA Summer League, which it's just different. 448 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: When you have a guy like yourself that's played, that 449 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: gets it, they can see it. Um. I think you 450 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: know most of the social media reaction is highlight here, 451 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: a highlight there, maybe even one really good game where 452 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: the true what you learned about what you learned about 453 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: summer league is I remember I was summerly with the Lakers. 454 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: You know, I had had a really good game, and 455 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: then I came back in the next day and uh s, 456 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: Frank Hamlin was felling assistance for the Lakers back in 457 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: the days, came up from the Bulls. You know, it's 458 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: Phil Jackson. Guy. He's like, yet it's like not good 459 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: game last night, you know, being being a pro as 460 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: I go, no, fucking do it again tonight, you know, 461 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: and I go, it's a great point. And I just um, 462 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: I didn't struggle with it necessarily when I was in 463 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: the usb L I didn't struggle with it, just like 464 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: playing hoop every day. But the mentality of like you 465 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: you gotta you sit there on the bench and you 466 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: just load up with energy and you have to process 467 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: it and have it come out the right and it 468 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: just everything works. One night you're like, Okay, now you 469 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: gotta do that again tomorrow night. You just because you 470 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: get that, you play a game, you get done. And 471 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: then some really was in Long Beach, which is close 472 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: to where I grew up. My parents were there, um, 473 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: which is my wife, and then I was there. You know, 474 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: you're just like you feel like you're part of the Lakers. 475 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: But then you realize, like, oh shoot, I gotta do 476 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: it again to night. Tonight was Memphis. Tomorrow night's the Clippers, 477 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: you know, and and it's it's it's pretty anyway. Um, Okay, 478 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: So who if you could say I came home from 479 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: some league and this is the best player that I saw. 480 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: Can be can be a big name, can be a 481 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: small name. The best player you saw was here. Man. 482 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: It's close between Jalen Green and Kate Cuttingham. I'll give 483 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: the edge to Kate Cunningham because of the leadership and 484 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 1: the poise, and he seems a little bit more advanced 485 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: with his game at this point. But Jalen Green was explosive. Man. 486 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: And what I liked about Jalen Green was that obviously 487 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: he could score the basketball really athletic separation is amazing, 488 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: like he could just get a shot off whenever he wants. 489 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: But he cares on both sides of the floor. So 490 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 1: that tells me he's gonna be a good defender as 491 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: well at the NBA level. Like you could look in 492 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: his face and that's a great thing. That's the value 493 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: of showing up somewhere in person. You could read body 494 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: language better. So I just really feel like he cares 495 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: about both sides of the floor, and he's going to 496 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: be a dynamic score Like he's an NBA scorer right now. 497 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if he scores like seventeen points 498 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: a game is worth the year at the twenty. Yeah, 499 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: I think he'll struggle with field goal percentage the first 500 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: couple of years. He doesn't really know what a good 501 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: shot is. But I would agree with you. I mean, 502 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: that guy's a professional score. I think what's interesting is 503 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: that both of them are as advertised. Yes, right, and 504 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: that's kind of a rarity. Right, Sometimes you get there 505 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: and you're like, he's not as big, or he's not 506 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: as good or something. This is interesting. Top five was 507 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: probably as advertised, and I would you know, I mean, 508 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: I think Jalen Suggs is exactly what he's advertised to be. 509 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: I think Comena is pretty much what he's advertised to be. Well, actually, 510 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: I think Comenda is better than what people were saying. 511 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: I mean, everything you've heard about Comenda going into this 512 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: was negative, and the Warriors didn't care. They obviously didn't 513 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: look at the draft boards or look at draft Twitter 514 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: or look at media. They just took who they felt 515 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: the best player was at the moment. And it seems 516 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: to be like it's gonna work out for what I 517 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: saw in summer league. Yeah, okay, so let's um, let's 518 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: let's go to Let's go to comminga what you said, 519 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: it's gonna work out? What's he ultimately going to be? Like, Yeah, 520 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: that's the thing. I think he's better right now. He's 521 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 1: better suited to be a four or five in the NBA. 522 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: Hopefully he could develop those skills with his handle and 523 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: reading off pick and rolls to be eventually becoming a three. 524 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: But his best his best path to NBA minutes right now, 525 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: or as a small ball four, as a small ball five. 526 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: But the guy is a crazy athlete. Man, Like, he 527 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: made one defensive play that really stood out to me. 528 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: How quick he gets off the floor. I haven't seen 529 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: in a long time from anybody, to be honest, Like, 530 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: he gets off the floor quick. He's a top level 531 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: NBA athlete. Um, okay, what about Evan you spenttioned top five? 532 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: What about Evan Mobley? What was your impressions? So Evan 533 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: Mobley was probably the most disappointing out of the five, 534 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: But that's not saying much because all five I think 535 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: played well. Um. What six outs about Evan Moby is 536 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: his fluidity? Um? Really like he could he could go 537 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: off for a shot, fake land and still slide and 538 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: stay in front of his man. He could close out 539 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: jump land and still slide with a perimeter player. Defensively, 540 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: he's NBA ready right now. He has a great feel 541 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: for the game, great fluidity. Um, the jump shot has 542 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: to improve. I think he only shot twelve from three 543 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: in Summer League, so everybody was raving about his touch. 544 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: But we have to see if that really develops and 545 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: he'll be able to knock down that three consistently. All 546 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: the other guys were more consistent with they're playing the 547 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: top five. I think Evan Mobli was more flashes, but 548 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: he played well also, just not as well as the 549 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:39,959 Speaker 1: other four. Um, okay, uh, let's let's go to uh, 550 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: let's go to jail and sucks? What is? What is? 551 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: Who is he in the NBA? Who is he playing like? 552 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: I think he could be a Drew Holiday. He could 553 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: play both sides of the floor. He's a He'll be 554 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: a good offensive player and he'll be dynamic on defense. 555 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: He made some crazy defensive plays in the big moments 556 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: of that Summer League game. I know it's only Summer League, 557 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: but I think he's a guy who gets it. I 558 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: think he's a great intangibles guy. He's a really good athlete. 559 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: I think the shooting is better than people think when 560 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: it comes to a lot of these prospects. Actually, like 561 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: Cage shooting was probably better than even people thought. Um, 562 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: Scotty is a willing shooter. And I think Jalen Stug 563 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: is another guy that shoots it well off the dribble. Um, 564 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: He's gonna get better catch and shoot it looks good. 565 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think he could be an NBA comp 566 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: for him, and I love hate relationship with NBA comps, 567 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: but I could see a Drew Holiday and I think 568 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: he's gonna be a guy that comes up in the 569 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: big moments. That's always been his rep and that's what 570 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: he's done in college for those partings a year. Um, okay, 571 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: you mentioned Scotty Barnes. Ye kind of the prototype athlete 572 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: right for two thousand twenty one basketball, But as a 573 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: as a player and an evaluator, what did you see? Well? 574 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: I was high on Scotty Barnes, higher than most going 575 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: into this, and I saw what I thought I was 576 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: so from him. An NBA ready defender, a guy who 577 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: can initial aid offense of defense is with something you 578 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: could really start out with, Like he's a guy that 579 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: could guard one through five legitimately and on offense. I 580 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: think we don't put into enough stock into players that 581 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: just make the right decision really often. I think we 582 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: over analyze things sometimes, and he's a guy that just 583 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: continually continuously makes the right decision over and over and 584 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: over again. Great pastor great feel. And you mentioned the athleticism. 585 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: There's probably guys that jump higher than Scotty Barnes, but 586 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of guys who have the athletic 587 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: profile at Scottie Barnes, like I think a good person 588 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: to compare that with and be like Obie Topping. Obi 589 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: probably jumps higher, but he's not the overall athlete that 590 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: Scotty is in terms of sliding his feet, flexibility, you know. 591 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: So I think we almost put too much stock into 592 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: just jumping, and Scotty Barnes is just a great overall athlete, 593 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: and he's a willing shooter, as I said, so I 594 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: think that's important and I think if he becomes an 595 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: average NBA shooter, he's definitely an all star in my book. 596 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting he mentioned every Topping. It's like 597 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: when he was drafted there billing crazy because they love 598 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: him and Dayton coming back home and like, okay, what 599 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: is the in the NBA? You know? And when he 600 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: said the eight ten, he's playing five, not just a five, 601 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: but also against Atlantic ten fives, you know, and it 602 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: looks it looks different. Now he struggles to find, you know, 603 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: something to latch onto that this is what I'm gonna be. 604 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,959 Speaker 1: Whereas Scottie Barnes, you know, didn't start at at at 605 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: at Florida State. But he's a different body type, as 606 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: you point out, a different kind of athlete and more 607 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: than one that's more transferable to an NBA style game 608 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: than than obises was more of refined coming out. Obviously 609 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,719 Speaker 1: it was older. Yeah, I think people saw that through 610 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: the legs, dunks and all that stuff, and you you 611 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: automatically think craziest athlete, you know, But there's more athleticism 612 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: than just jumping out the gym correct correct latter athleticism 613 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: is huge. Um uh, you didn't give us the giddy 614 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: a ton. I don't know if you saw him with 615 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: the Olympic team, what do you think, man? I watched 616 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: that first game with giddy first player they gave he 617 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: comes off it just gets down the lane and catches 618 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: a dunk and then he doesn't play anymore. I was 619 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing that match of Cade versus Josh, 620 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: but it didn't happen. That would have been interesting. Josh 621 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: Giddy size, that's what that's what great takeaway from it. 622 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: He looks about Cade's size from what I saw, but 623 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: he wasn't in the game very long. You know, he's 624 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: big and he's not obviously not a crazy athlete, but 625 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: he gets gets a lot done. I do think also 626 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: sometimes like the game continues to evolve and you can 627 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: make up for a lot. I mean, Lucas not a 628 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: not a blur at all. He knows how to use 629 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: his body, knows how to create separation in space, and 630 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: he's obviously super skilled. And I'm not saying Giddy is 631 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: Giddy's Luca, but if Luca can do it as a 632 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: limited athlete on some levels, so too kid of Josh 633 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: Giddy and with his style play, I would say the 634 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: big difference is is that Luca gets his shot off 635 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: effortlessly and seamlessly, and Josh Getty's released this kind of slow. Yes, 636 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: I totally agree, and Lucas, I'm in a a star player, 637 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: are you? And the Luca is the best player in 638 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: the world. Camp Man, it's high and everybody you know 639 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: draft night, Luca's Draft night. I was the guy saying 640 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: this guy was going to be the best player out 641 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: of this draft, and people were like on me about it, like, no, 642 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: it's too slow, that's Europe. But they didn't really realize 643 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: that when you're EuroLeague MVP at that age, it means 644 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: a lot. But I will say to your question, now, 645 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,720 Speaker 1: I've always been high on Luca and people like talks 646 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: back to me how high I'm on Luca. I would 647 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: say that it is between Lebron and probably at this 648 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 1: point k D between the two best players in the world. Yeah. 649 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: I know, we have to see how he comes back. 650 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 1: It's always a wait and see with them. But he 651 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: was an MVP candidate until that injury, I think, and uh, 652 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: we have to see how he comes back. So it's 653 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to see. But Katie, I mean, I'm 654 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: not mad at anybody saying that Katie is the best 655 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: player in the world, especially when we saw in the 656 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: playoffs and in the Olympics. Not mad at that at all. No, 657 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: I would agree. I just think sometimes we do a 658 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: little bit of the dated like, look, Lebron is just 659 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: not the same, dude. He's still a great player, but 660 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,439 Speaker 1: I don't think he's that guy. On the other hand, 661 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: if you don't like him, like who do you like 662 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis? But he obviously he's always hurt, you know, 663 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: Um what do you feel like he's just not able 664 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: to physically dominate and post his will like Lebron has 665 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: at times? Although I still think I don't think Lebron 666 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: imposes will nearly is the percentage of times that that 667 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: he I mean, for example, was you know again, I 668 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: understand that that k D couldn't get his team to 669 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: the NBA Finals with all those injuries, but he still 670 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: carried his team when they lost those two other guys. 671 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,720 Speaker 1: And I know Harden came back and played or as Lebron, 672 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: he lost Anthony Davis and they just house a card, 673 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: you know, and they just always collapsed. I'm not sure 674 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: he's not I'm not sure. I don't think he's that 675 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: guy anymore. Still a great player, do nineteen years in 676 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: the NBA takes a ton ton of tread off the tires. 677 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: How did you feel about a d coming into the 678 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: season out of shape? Um? Well, I kind of new, 679 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: kind of know too much. I mean, reputationalize out here. 680 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: Everyone will say, like you know, you ask anybody in 681 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: the Lakers organization, like everybody loves a d but he 682 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: just he's just a hooper, like he thinks you just 683 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: show up in hoop and you know where's Lebron. It's 684 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,240 Speaker 1: when he says he spends a million dollars in his body, 685 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: million dollars in his body. And that's why for the 686 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: most part, you know, he's had obviously two of the 687 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: last three years series had injuries, but he's had an 688 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: unbelievable run, whereas Anthony Davis like put him out four weeks, 689 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: all right, I'll see you guys in four weeks, Like yeah, 690 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: that's he just rolls different and and look in fairness 691 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 1: to them, you know, the Lakers wanted them to get 692 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: away from it. It was a lot in the bubble 693 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: and it was a quick turnaround. Yeah. But uh but 694 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,879 Speaker 1: you know, Shaq was the same way. He wouldn't work 695 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 1: out in the office, seem minute playing his way in shape. 696 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 1: But that's a dangerous theme to play because you know, 697 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: the second you're carrying a little bit more weight, that's 698 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,439 Speaker 1: when your body starts to break down. Yeah, I'm like, dude, 699 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: you know, there's there's I always thought there was like 700 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: three types of guys. There's the guys that don't do enough. 701 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: There's the guys who are professionals doing what they're supposed 702 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 1: to do, and then there's a obsessive, obsessive compulsive guys. 703 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: And UH usually pros fit into one of those three categories. 704 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: In my opinion, Yep, I would agree with that. He's 705 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 1: definitely not an excessive compulsive right exactly. It's not that 706 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: it's not not who not who who? He is on paper? Um, 707 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: where where are you on the Lakers? I mean, I 708 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 1: guess you can't just be on paper like but when 709 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,240 Speaker 1: they did add Russell Westbrook, but he's an inefficient shooter 710 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: and he's in his mid thirties and he's had poor 711 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:54,280 Speaker 1: knee circles. Yeah, you know how it is. Um, spacing 712 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: is going to be an issue with them, but they 713 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 1: with the amount of talent they have, I think the 714 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 1: coaching staff could be creative and figure it out. I 715 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: think a big key for them is how well Anthony 716 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: Davis shoots the three so you don't have two cloggers 717 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: on the floor. I think you could do. Now this 718 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,359 Speaker 1: sounds crazy, but I think you could use Russell as 719 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: a super Bruce brown Um in spots. I think that 720 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:23,479 Speaker 1: makes sense. Small ball for small ball five Houston. Yeah, 721 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: that's how they used them in Houston exactly, and I 722 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 1: think that's how they have to use them now. But 723 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: you know, Anthony Davis, it would greatly benefit them if 724 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: you could knock down that three, because I mean, there's 725 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 1: a good chance that Russell won't so the space and 726 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: could be compromised there. Well, I think, I mean, I 727 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: think the game plan is to start him at the 728 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: five and a Russell Russell d Okay, Yeah, that's what 729 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: they always wanted to do. But AD's not a fan 730 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: of that, right right, But I think slowly he's kind 731 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: of bought into it and he understands it like that's 732 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: how they're gonna finish. Now they're trying to convince him 733 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,800 Speaker 1: like let's start that way as well, and then you know, 734 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,800 Speaker 1: bring in Dwight's. But the way it's not gonna be 735 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: a starter or mark if he has anything laps thing 736 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 1: and you start either. I think that's that's generally the 737 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 1: game plan, all right? What about the nets? Can they 738 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,280 Speaker 1: keep it together long enough to get to the finals 739 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: where they'll have a ton of town. Yeah, if they 740 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: see if they stay healthy, don't don't be fine man, 741 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: physically healthy. You know, Kyrie is somewhat of a wild card, 742 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: even though I will always say that Kyrie is the 743 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: most skillful player in the NBA, and I don't know 744 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: if you want to debate that. I think that guy 745 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 1: has more options as an offensive player than anybody in 746 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 1: the NBA. UM, but he's always a wild car when 747 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 1: it comes to, you know, off the court. But love 748 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: him as a player. Um, yeah, you know, the chemistry 749 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 1: on the court looked really good when they got to 750 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 1: play together last year, and and it you know, it 751 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: didn't last. They didn't get to play with each other much. 752 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,280 Speaker 1: But I think Patty Mills was a huge offseason signing 753 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 1: for them. I think that went under the radar, and 754 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: that's gonna be big for them because he's gonna be 755 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 1: able to step in when one of those guys are 756 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: injured and played great regular season and play off minutes. 757 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: It's a good point. If you had to pick one 758 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: team in the West that would that would compete the 759 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 1: most with the Lakers, who would it be? Oh Man, 760 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 1: Let's say let's go with the wild card if Jamal 761 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 1: Murray comes back healthy. Let's say, Denver, do you know 762 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: what's funny? That's the one that I would point to. 763 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,280 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why the Lakers have transformed themselves 764 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 1: in this offensive team. Right. They were the best defensive 765 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,439 Speaker 1: team two years ago. Now they're an offensive team. They're 766 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: not better offensively on paper than Denver because Denver is 767 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: so much between Michael Horder Jr. A twenty and a 768 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: problem and he has another way. I think I think 769 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: he has another lead to make Doug and then you 770 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:47,280 Speaker 1: throw in um uh, and then you throw in obviously 771 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,479 Speaker 1: at the m v P. People forget how good Jamal 772 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 1: Murray was going back to the bubble, right like you 773 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: have through that's I think you got seventy points right 774 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 1: there between those three. Yeah, and then they have a 775 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 1: depth of other dudes. They could people. They still Eric 776 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 1: Gordon right where they got They were still trying to 777 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 1: figure out how to use them late in year, Like 778 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 1: that's a really good offensive, really good yeah. And if 779 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 1: you know, it was amazing how they were playing when 780 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: they had Aaron Gordon and Jamal Murray was still healthy. 781 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: They were playing like the best team in the league 782 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 1: at that point, and I think they could get back 783 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 1: to that. Um okay, you mean one team in the 784 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: East that you think is most likely compete with with Brooklyn? 785 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 1: Would it be Milwaukee? Do you like what Boss has done? 786 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,320 Speaker 1: Are you gonna go crazy town and tell me the Knicks? 787 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,800 Speaker 1: Is it gonna be Philly? We still don't know what 788 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 1: they hang on to Ben Simmons. Let's go with the team. 789 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 1: You didn't mention the heat. You know he could win 790 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:50,399 Speaker 1: heat culture. Um. Their coaching staff always seems to get 791 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: things done in my opinion, and they have enough talent 792 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 1: this year with Kyle and Jimmy and Duncan space in 793 00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 1: the floor and hopefully uh Tyler could it back to 794 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 1: where he was in the bubble of They got a 795 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,839 Speaker 1: lot of pieces there and I think they have enough 796 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,479 Speaker 1: talent to get it done. Would they be the Healthy Nets? 797 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 1: I don't think so, but I think they can make 798 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: a run again. Um okay, last thing, how can somebody 799 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,800 Speaker 1: get your podcast? Combo's Court podcast C N b O 800 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: S c O U R t um Apple podcast, I 801 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 1: Heart Radio Spotify. You can follow me on Instagram and 802 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 1: one to Combo and E t w O c O 803 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 1: n b oh and on Twitter at Combo's courts. N 804 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 1: B O. S c O U R T. Doug. Thank 805 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 1: you so much for having me on your platform. Actually 806 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 1: listen to your podcast. I enjoy your podcast. Um. I 807 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: appreciate everything that you do, and thanks so much for 808 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 1: having me on. Last thing, Hold on last thing. Um, 809 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 1: we haven't talked Warriors. Okay. I may be the only guy. 810 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,799 Speaker 1: I kind of think this is gonna be a year. 811 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 1: Like I have no idea about Clay's health none. I'm 812 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: with you, dog, but I'm looking and I'm sitting there 813 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 1: going like when you have those two guys and you 814 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 1: had Dre and I don't love Andrew Wiggins. I don't 815 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: know if they hold on him, but if he's your 816 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 1: third or fourth best player, I like it. I don't 817 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 1: like it he's your first or second best player. I 818 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 1: like it he's your third or fourth best player. Whyse 819 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,240 Speaker 1: when people forget like, dude, it played three games in college, 820 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:18,839 Speaker 1: three you know, so no real preseason learning curves hard. 821 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 1: He's just a kid, um Um, I like them. What 822 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 1: I like? What the Warriors? The kid? What's the kid 823 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: from Michigan? I'm forgetting his name. Um came out the 824 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 1: bench for him. He I thought that. I think they 825 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 1: found something there. I like them. I think they're gonna 826 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 1: be great. I don't think they'll be legit title contenders, though, 827 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 1: to be honest, Doug, okay, I'll come well. I think 828 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,800 Speaker 1: first of all, the committed pick kind of shows that 829 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 1: they're going in two different directions. They took a guy 830 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 1: who's gonna be good four or five years from now 831 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,839 Speaker 1: and maybe not right away. Um, we don't know about 832 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 1: Clay's health. It's two in reason in a role. And 833 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,280 Speaker 1: I think you know they call lightning in the bottle 834 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 1: when they were the Warriors back then. I don't think 835 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: they have the same supporting cast. They don't have Livingston 836 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 1: and Equadala and these type of gooda back you know 837 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 1: what I mean, closer to closer to primary Goodala and 838 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if but but hold on, but but 839 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:24,879 Speaker 1: like let's let's let's um, let's let's look at it though. 840 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,399 Speaker 1: Now okay, so now they're bench. I can't remember who 841 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 1: is the kid from Michigan who comes off the bench 842 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 1: to them can really shoot? It's got the floppy hair thinking, 843 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 1: oh yeah, he played the league little bit, did he? 844 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 1: Probably he can he can? Who? Um? Okay, but then 845 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:47,399 Speaker 1: so you have yes, yeah, yeah, he's great, he's great. 846 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 1: So you bring off the bench, you bring Pool off 847 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,879 Speaker 1: the Brench, you'll bring cominga the bench. Who else they draft? 848 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 1: They d have something else? So I kind of like, 849 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,399 Speaker 1: where's the playoff experience again? That's that's what Yeah, Andre 850 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 1: goo dolla. Okay, though I'm sure they'll add some got 851 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 1: some buy out market guys as well. Right, and then 852 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 1: you're you know, you're starting lineup. Now you still have 853 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 1: Steph and Clay. We don't know. We don't know Draymond 854 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 1: shooting has the climb, and we don't know about Clay. 855 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,399 Speaker 1: So I feel like there's a lot of questions. It's 856 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:24,320 Speaker 1: completely fair, completely but if we do the on paper 857 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,360 Speaker 1: thing or you know, if all if they if everything 858 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 1: goes right for them. Right, when you start doing that 859 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,319 Speaker 1: too much, I feel like you're not a contader anymore. Right, Yeah, 860 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,840 Speaker 1: but it's but it's but but that's part of like, Okay, 861 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 1: we just said Denver, all right, Well we don't know 862 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:43,280 Speaker 1: what Jamal Murray's gonna be, like come back from a knee. Yeah, alright, 863 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: so we could excel Jamal Murray and Clay and then 864 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,280 Speaker 1: we just added all these other problems with the Warriors, 865 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Got it? Okay, you know, 866 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 1: but like it's like, Okay, Russ has had four knee surgeries. 867 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 1: Lebron has been hurt to the last three years, and 868 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 1: it's hurt like every year. The Brooklyn Nets, like Brooklyn 869 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 1: was the best team in the NBA. They're gonna win 870 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 1: the NBA Championship. Kyrie rolls his ankle and James Harten 871 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 1: pulls his hamstring, Right, these things do happen. What you're 872 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 1: saying is there's a it's these aren't limited soft Tingie 873 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 1: talk to soft tissue, like we're talking to major injuries 874 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 1: f Clay. The one thing that I it does give 875 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 1: me maybe more hope is um is that you see 876 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,360 Speaker 1: how k D came back from Achilles tendant, Like it 877 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:35,240 Speaker 1: feels like medicine has really improved. It didn't for DeMarcus Cousins. 878 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 1: But it's a different position. He wasn't in great shape, 879 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 1: not the not the same type of player. So I 880 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 1: don't know, it's gonna be really interesting to see what 881 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 1: happens with with Clay. But I also think the point 882 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 1: that you made, which is a good one, which is 883 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: I don't think people understand how much they were ahead 884 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:55,319 Speaker 1: of the NBA in terms of understanding valuing the three 885 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 1: point shot, small ball basketball, and all the right pieces. 886 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 1: You know, they had staff. Second contract was only four 887 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,720 Speaker 1: million dollars, allowed them to go out and get other guys. 888 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,920 Speaker 1: Now they're capped out, now they're older, and now everybody 889 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 1: plays some form of small ball. So I think it's 890 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 1: gonna be interesting. Yeah. No, I I just think I 891 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,839 Speaker 1: just feel like the compound effect of question marks, it's 892 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 1: just gonna be tough for the Warriors to overcome all 893 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,239 Speaker 1: of that. But they do have staff. But I would 894 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,800 Speaker 1: say the Lakers have Lebron and the Nets have Katie. 895 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 1: So that's another factor why you could have the you know, 896 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,719 Speaker 1: the Nets of the Lakers over the Warriors. But you know, 897 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 1: all great players, but I would give the edge to 898 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 1: Lebron and Katie when it comes to the playoffs in 899 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,400 Speaker 1: the finals. I didn't ask you. Um, I have my 900 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 1: own opinion that talk to you, but I'm not gonna 901 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: cloud yours. Jello Ball made a little bit of headlines 902 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 1: because he made some threes in the first game you watched. 903 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 1: You evaluate what level of players Jello Ball, Well, I 904 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 1: can tell by the way you frame the question, I 905 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 1: probably know your opinion on it. Um, maybe I'm wrong, 906 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 1: but I'll tell you he looked like he belonged in 907 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,759 Speaker 1: the NBA Summer League. You gotta give him credit for that. 908 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 1: He played well. You know, he made shots. I feel 909 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 1: like the biggest issue with him is the foot speed 910 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,400 Speaker 1: at his position. I think it would help him to 911 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 1: lose some weight, maybe get a little bit quicker on 912 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,799 Speaker 1: his feet. Um. The thing is, though, his brother could 913 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 1: be a future superstar, and that helps younger siblings or 914 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 1: even older siblings get on their team. So I wouldn't 915 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 1: be surprised if he becomes the Charlotte Hornet in the future, 916 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 1: especially if you get maybe down to the G League 917 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 1: and play really well down there. In combination of LaMelo 918 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,719 Speaker 1: becoming a superstar, I think it could happen. But you know, 919 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 1: in summer league, he looked like he belonged. I'll say that. 920 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 1: Good stuff, Bro. I can't wait to hear your next pot. 921 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,920 Speaker 1: I appreciate you and on mine, I only had you 922 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 1: not just because you have me on yours, because I've 923 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,800 Speaker 1: been listening. I enjoy it. I enjoy your insight and 924 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,719 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thanks so much. For having me on 925 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,319 Speaker 1: your platform. Keep up the great work with all bull 926 00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,160 Speaker 1: and everything else that's food Dug talks to him. Really 927 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 1: appreciate anytime. Bro Touching later reminded The Doug Gotlieb Show 928 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 1: daily three to six Eastern twelve to three Pacific on 929 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,760 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio app. Of course you can download 930 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,480 Speaker 1: that as a podcast on a daily basis. That's the 931 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:21,279 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show. Yeah. Like, uh, we we talk a 932 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 1: lot about NBA and I I love his insight and 933 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 1: his input. But in terms of college basketball, man, we're 934 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 1: gonna have to do kind of like a like check 935 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:36,399 Speaker 1: in Arizona new head coach, right, um, Kentucky coming off 936 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,840 Speaker 1: a really tough season, Texas new head coach, looks like 937 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:44,840 Speaker 1: they're loaded up for bear. 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