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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you.

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Speaker 3: We were ready to start the show tonight talking about

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Speaker 3: chaos in New York. We were ready to start the

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Speaker 2: By, and believe me, we will. But before we.

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Speaker 3: Get there, the breaking news, the big news, all eyes

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Speaker 3: are suddenly on drama yet again between Caitlin Clark and

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Speaker 3: Angel Reese. And I'm here to tell you this is

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Speaker 3: exactly what the WNBA needed today. It's a Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 3: He's Buck rising out, Jason Fitz. We are with you

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Speaker 3: for the next several hours, coming at you live from

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Speaker 3: the Fox Sports Radio studios. Buck, I mean, just gotta

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Speaker 3: be real with the people, right Like I was ready

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Speaker 3: to talk about greased up like poles and people climbing

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Speaker 3: on top of billboards and people running around.

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Speaker 2: Necket it all over New York.

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Speaker 3: We're ready to do that, but instead we get drama

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Speaker 3: in the WNBA.

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Speaker 2: But this feels so electric because frankly.

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Speaker 3: I all so think I was at an event today

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Speaker 3: I'm watching everybody and somebody looked at me and said,

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Speaker 3: what's even going on in sports today? And my answer

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Speaker 3: immediately was, it's a big Saturday. It's the first Saturday

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Speaker 3: for the WNBA, like this matters. There were some premier

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Speaker 3: marquee matchups today. I think a lot of people didn't

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Speaker 3: even realize that. I think a lot of people weren't

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Speaker 3: paying attention. But it took one flagrant foul. It took

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Speaker 2: Some might say that she shoved.

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Speaker 3: Angel Reese to the ground and didn't look that egregious

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Speaker 3: to me, but Angel did not appreciate it. She gets up,

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Speaker 3: there's trash talking going on, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: social media blows up. Brother, this felt like exactly with

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Speaker 3: the WNED because it's a reminder it's here, it's a

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Speaker 3: reminder of the drama, and we get two of the

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Speaker 3: the season.

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Speaker 4: It is a beautiful Saturday, and I'm always happy to

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Speaker 4: spend it with you and the crew, my brother, but

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Speaker 4: I think it is more convenient for you than anybody

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Speaker 4: else that you can avoid the shame of you loudly

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Speaker 4: declaring yourself the Boston Celtics, because that's exactly what I

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Speaker 4: was prepared to talk about. That's exactly what Ian was

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Speaker 4: prepared to talk about today, and instead you say, no,

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Speaker 4: throw out the rundown boys, We're talking WNBA to start.

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Speaker 4: Never you mind that I picked the Celtics to run

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Speaker 4: away with the series, and understandably some things had to

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Speaker 4: But still, but still, I don't disagree with you that

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Speaker 4: this is the kind of thing that this sport in

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Speaker 4: particular needs, because this is now year two of them both, right,

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Speaker 4: this is now how sustainable is Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese

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Speaker 4: the momentum that the WNBA seems to be building upon.

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Speaker 4: Can we continue to captivate the country with a team

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Speaker 4: like the Indiana Fever and the Chicago Sky and do

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Speaker 4: so even on a blowout and they won a close

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Speaker 4: game today in ninety three fifty eight. Anybody who thinks

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Speaker 4: this point, I mean, Caitlin just unbelievable. Another triple double today,

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Speaker 4: the world, or at least round the internet as the

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Speaker 4: FITZI genuinely how much WNBA did you watch last year?

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Speaker 4: Because I'm really curious. I know that people follow Caitlin Clark.

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Speaker 4: I know that the WNBA has never had more momentum

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I'll be honest, I think it's probably an

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Speaker 3: unfair question only and not in the way most people

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Speaker 3: are going to think. If you go back to my background.

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Speaker 3: I from day one of radio have watched a lot

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Speaker 3: You and I both love men's college basketball, right, I

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Speaker 3: Like as much as I love the sport and it's

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Speaker 3: in the NBA in the West. You know, we got

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Speaker 3: thunder Nuggets as I continually like to call it because

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Speaker 2: I think this cuts through for the asual is all

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Speaker 3: This a beautiful thing, like if it was Caitlin against

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Speaker 3: much radio cares. But Caitlin against Angel Reese and to

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Speaker 4: No, and I again, I don't disagree with you whatsoever. Also,

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Speaker 3: Nuggets a better rock band, But also thunder Nuggets sounds

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Speaker 4: a child you are working with a child all right, you.

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Speaker 5: Are the oldest child I know in my life.

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Speaker 4: You're like Benjamin Button wanting to make bathroom jokes seven

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Speaker 5: It's fine, it's fine.

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Speaker 4: I mean, yes, let's now proceed with our serious analysis

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Speaker 4: It starts the dialogue around these two teams. It reignites

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Speaker 5: On both sides.

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Speaker 4: Caitlin Clark talking about the on the broadcast, just a

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Speaker 4: gonna be able to you will care about Caitlin Clark

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Speaker 5: It just gives you the juice.

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Speaker 4: And the rest of the league obviously has compelling stars

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Speaker 3: I'm Jason fitz And here's the thing that I want

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Speaker 3: everyone to listen to this entire statement before they react

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Speaker 3: But here's where you're really at your best. Like the

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Speaker 2: Rooting for and some people are rooting against.

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Speaker 3: I think what's interesting is that so many people want

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Speaker 3: to make Caitlin a hero and Angel a villain in

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Speaker 2: If you are an Angel Reese fan.

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Speaker 3: You are looking at Caitlin and the attitude that she

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Speaker 3: at times, and you're thinking, no, y'all, that's the villain.

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Speaker 2: This is the hero. Like this is the hero, She's

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Speaker 3: If you're a Caitlin Clark fan, you're looking at it

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Speaker 2: This is the Steph.

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Speaker 3: Curry of the WNBA. She's the hero, Angel's the villain.

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Speaker 5: Man, talk about my New York next, my New York God.

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Speaker 3: What I was about to say that everybody very clearly

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Speaker 2: The next one, the Knicks beat the Celtics. Now, let's

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Speaker 4: Part where you eat it. Okay, I don't know how

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Speaker 5: But you, you, Jason Fitz, as we sit here with you.

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Speaker 4: in any stretch of the imagination in you you you, you,

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Speaker 2: Who cares. Everything's going to be just fine. I was

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Speaker 3: I said that the Celtics were going to be just

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Speaker 4: It's always been the Yankees It's never been the Knicks

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 4: Look, it's a spectacular thing to watch.

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Speaker 2: I'm absolutely I am just all over this thing.

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Speaker 3: When you call the Masters overrated, the Masters is overrated.

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Speaker 2: But here's the other thing.

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Speaker 3: As a die hard, lifelong Raiders fan, my team like,

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Speaker 2: Gonna see you a Super Bowl are pretty damn slim.

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Speaker 2: We all know that, right. I cannot imagine. Let me

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Speaker 3: If the Raiders win the wild Card round of the

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Speaker 3: I I will probably have tears in my house. I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say that don't care if Raiders fans.

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Speaker 3: If Raiders fans actually ran through the streets after a

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Speaker 3: I would loudly boo the entire fan base like you

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Speaker 3: Like the Raiders running When John Gruden took the victory

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Speaker 3: lap around Arrowhead because the Raiders won a game in Arrowhead,

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Speaker 3: that was the dumbest damn Like, that's.

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Speaker 5: A stupid not the same thing.

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Speaker 3: Of course not it's the playoffs, but come on, man,

443
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Speaker 3: like we're going to react that way. Like I was

444
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Speaker 3: watching that scene and the scene was magical. My first

445
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Speaker 3: thought was, oh my god, this is so cool. And

446
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Speaker 3: then I sat there and I saw somebody say I

447
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Speaker 3: saw one.

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Speaker 2: Of the social media people say New York wants to

449
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Speaker 2: be Philly so.

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Speaker 3: Bad, And all I kept thinking is, nah, because Philly

451
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Speaker 3: does this after they win championships, Like the Eagles win

452
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Speaker 3: championships and they have to grease the polls, right, Like

453
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Speaker 3: apparently you got to grease Like this is the equivalent

454
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Speaker 3: of like, oh my god, the Yankees just beat the

455
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Speaker 3: Red Sox in the in the Al divisional playoff round,

456
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Speaker 3: and we're gonna go out and run up the flag poles,

457
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Speaker 3: Like who the hell does that?

458
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Speaker 4: Say something about Timothy's shallome right now, Say something nice

459
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Speaker 4: about him right now.

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Speaker 5: Just give give Nick's fans something.

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Speaker 3: You know, Timothy Shallomey was pretty pretty good as an

462
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Speaker 3: SNL host. I'll give him that. I didn't love the

463
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Speaker 3: Willy Wonka? Did you love the Willy Wonka? Okay, we're

464
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Speaker 3: gonna continue to watch the Bob Dylan think it was

465
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Speaker 3: way too long. I did not watch the Bob Dylan

466
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Speaker 3: thing because grants Bob Dylan, and that's right up your

467
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Speaker 3: alley fits.

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Speaker 2: I got a lot of thoughts on this.

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Speaker 3: It's like, do we really need a biopic film on

470
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Speaker 3: somebody that like the music is there to stream, you

471
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Speaker 3: really want to go out there, just go listen to

472
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Speaker 3: the music, like you really need to sit through a

473
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Speaker 3: biopic film about Bob Dylan.

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Speaker 4: He's just an angry old man at this point in

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Speaker 4: his life.

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Speaker 2: Are you the happiest? Apparently? Look, I nobody believes that

477
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Speaker 2: thunder right now.

478
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Speaker 4: You're smiling right now is because I assume that smile

479
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Speaker 4: is botoxed onto your face.

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Speaker 2: No botox here.

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Speaker 3: Only one of us have gotten botox, twenty years younger

482
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Speaker 3: than I. No botox for Steve Disager, but Steve Disager

483
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Speaker 3: needs to get us updated on what's going on. Steve

484
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Speaker 3: saved me from myself.

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Speaker 5: If that's possible.

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Speaker 7: Second Round NHL playoffs could end tonight at Dallas Stars

487
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Speaker 7: leading the series against Winnipeg three games to two, game

488
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Speaker 7: just a few minutes old and scoreless. Tonight, Jet's goalie

489
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Speaker 7: Connor hillibook on the road this postseason zero to five.

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Speaker 7: There's a Game seven on Sunday night, Florida at Toronto.

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Speaker 7: The winner goes to the East Final. Alex Ovechkin will

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Speaker 7: return to play for Washington next season, his twenty first

493
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Speaker 7: in the league. The NBA's second round ends on Sunday

494
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Speaker 7: with a game seven Denver at Oklahoma City Journalism, the

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Speaker 7: favorite won the Preakness, coming from behind Lake Kentucky Derby

496
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Speaker 7: winner Sovereignty did not run fifth time in seven years

497
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Speaker 7: with no Triple Crown at stake in the Preakness. Scottie

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Speaker 7: Scheffler leads the PGA Championship by three strokes after a

499
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Speaker 7: third round sixty five. Alex Norin is in second place.

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Speaker 7: John ram is five strokes behind to Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 7: Bottom of the eighth in Philadelphia, Phillies lead five nothing

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Speaker 7: over the Pirates.

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Speaker 5: He hits for Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 7: Phil starter Zach Wheeler went six scoreless innings with six strikeouts.

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Speaker 7: The Reds are up four to one on Cleveland. In

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Speaker 7: the top of the eighth Houston and the sixth inning

507
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Speaker 7: tied at Texas one to one, Cardinals at Royals, scoreless

508
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Speaker 7: in the sixth, and on Fox TV, the Braves lead

509
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Speaker 7: six to two at the Red Sox. The Mets today

510
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Speaker 7: got a run in the top of the ninth to

511
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Speaker 7: beat the Yankees three to two. Save to Edwin Diaz.

512
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Speaker 7: Aaron Judge went zero for five. The Cubs down the

513
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Speaker 7: White Sox seven to three. Toronto beat Detroit today two

514
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Speaker 7: to one. Tampa Bay a four to nothing winner at Miami,

515
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Speaker 7: and Washington won ten to six at Baltimore. The loss

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Speaker 7: to Kyle Gibson, who's zero and three with an ERA

517
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Speaker 7: of sixteen point seven eight this year, as he allowed

518
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Speaker 7: six runs in the first inning, and before the game,

519
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Speaker 7: the Oriols fired their manager, Brandon Hide. The team is

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Speaker 7: now fifteen and twenty nine.

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Speaker 5: Back to you.

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Speaker 3: He's buck rising on Jason Fitz hanging out with the

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Speaker 3: bucket vits on a Fox Sports Saturday on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Troy hit Us on Twitter with some of the video

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Speaker 3: footage from last night.

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Speaker 2: And let me be clear, this is electric.

527
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Speaker 3: It looks amazing, This is incredible. It makes at this point,

528
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Speaker 3: it makes a New Year's Eve look like it's a

529
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Speaker 3: you know, it's a day at the library.

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Speaker 2: Like this thing looks absolutely insane.

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Speaker 3: And I gotta be honest, I thought about trying to

532
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Speaker 3: pull some strings and get into the garden last night,

533
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Speaker 3: like being up in.

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Speaker 2: This part of the country.

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Speaker 3: I thought about it and saw the tickets were going

536
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Speaker 3: for seventeen thousand dollars quite literally for the best tickets,

537
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Speaker 3: and I was like, I think I'm gonna pass on that.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna wait right, But here's the thing

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Speaker 2: I look at it.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't doesn't love.

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Speaker 3: No, No, look, seventeen thousand dollars, that's a lot. Like

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Speaker 3: I'm not buck rising boogie like, that's a lot of games.

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Speaker 5: Come on, you know I could change for you, Bud.

544
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, this is what happens when you're rich rich.

545
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Speaker 2: But here's the thing. I look at this.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, this would be electric if it was a

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Speaker 3: champion ship, Like.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: I mean I'm just saying, like, so, what happens if

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Speaker 3: they lose to Indiana? Like how are we gonna remember

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Speaker 3: this moment? Like we're just gonna look at this and say.

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Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, you're drunken naked in the streets.

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Speaker 4: I'm a Pacers fan, but you know, I don't know

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Speaker 4: how the rest of America is gonna remember.

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Speaker 3: Would you celebrate this way? Would you as a Pacers fan?

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Speaker 3: Would you celebrate like this if the Pacers beat the

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Speaker 3: Knicks to get to the NBA Finals? Would you run

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Speaker 3: through the streets in a mob of people?

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Speaker 4: No, not the Indiana Pacers, but in because that's not

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Speaker 4: my greatest fanom like I'd love to see the Pacers win.

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Speaker 4: Grew up going to Pacers games. Some of my favorite

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Speaker 4: sports memories are watching Paul George and Lance Stevenson and

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Speaker 4: Roy Hibbert and George Hill go up against the Big

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Speaker 4: Three in Miami during those great playoff runs that those

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Speaker 4: two teams had when Lebron and Dwayne Wade and Chris

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Speaker 4: Bosh were chasing championships and the Pacers are trying to

567
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Speaker 4: stand in their way to do it. But for my

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Speaker 4: favorite sports team, yes, for my favorite sports team, absolutely

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Speaker 4: Indiana Pacers, you know I would be I would be

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Speaker 4: very I would be pleasantly surprised, honestly, because I don't

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Speaker 4: think there's any anything super special about this Pacers team,

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Speaker 4: which is why I think the Necks are going to

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Speaker 4: the final.

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Speaker 8: You guys would have to assume that there's a like

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Speaker 8: it can get crazier than this, though, because this is

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Speaker 8: only to make it to the Eastern Conference finals. So

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Speaker 8: what if they do win the championship? What's it going

578
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Speaker 8: to be like? The city will burn?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean I if they win the NBA Championship, there's

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Speaker 3: a part of me that would love to be in

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Speaker 3: the chaos, But really, the right thing to do is

583
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Speaker 3: to get like a hotel right by the garden and

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Speaker 3: just put yourself up.

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Speaker 2: Above the chaos, watch and watch the chaos. Like that's

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Speaker 2: the way to do it. To watch at them.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, they're not going to fail it.

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Speaker 4: And aren't you a New York sports fan or just

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Speaker 4: a Jets just.

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Speaker 8: A Jets fan? But yeah, I mean, I you know,

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Speaker 8: I'm what's the word tangentially related to Knicks fans?

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Speaker 2: I guess fancy, I know, tangentially.

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Speaker 8: I don't even know if I use that correctly.

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Speaker 3: I think, well, I mean, what do I know? Okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm not. I am trying to yuck there, young, and

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Speaker 3: that's what I feel like I'm doing now. I'm watching

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Speaker 3: this video and all I keep.

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Speaker 2: Thinking about it.

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Speaker 5: You don't even know what that means.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yuck, you're young. It's like, yeah, like you

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Speaker 3: love it, and I'm saying it sucks. I just think

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Speaker 3: at this point, look, the Knicks are on a magical

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00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 3: run and they took down the Celtics. But the Celtics,

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00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 3: last time I checked, got a banner on a trophy.

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Speaker 3: So before you turn around and say, oh my god,

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Speaker 3: like I've seen all the videos of Knicks fans reminding

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Speaker 3: Celtics fans how much they suck today. And I just

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Speaker 3: think before you talk that talk, you might want to

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Speaker 3: actually finish the deal. Like we forget sometimes that the

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Speaker 3: do you Believe in Miracles game was actually not the

611
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Speaker 3: Gold Medal game, like Team USA had to go in

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Speaker 3: and win another game. As much as we look at

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Speaker 3: some of these like the Tuck rule that defines my

614
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Speaker 3: entire life as a Raiders fan, was that play did

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00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 3: not win a Super Bowl for the Patriots, they still

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Speaker 3: have to go in and finish these things, right, Like

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Speaker 3: all of these moments we think UNLV as a kid

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Speaker 3: losing to Duke, Well, they lost in the final four,

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Speaker 3: Duke had to turn around and win the championship. Like

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Speaker 3: there are these moments here where this is incredible and

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Speaker 3: it can be a great part of the conversation of

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Speaker 3: what this year could mean for the Knicks and this

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Speaker 3: next team if they win a championship goes down an

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Speaker 3: all time lore, like I think Knicks fans should celebrate

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Speaker 3: in ways we've never seen if this Knicks team actually

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00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 3: delivers a championship, but just delivering a win over the Celtics,

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00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,719
Speaker 3: Like all right, you want a second round playoff matchup

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00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 3: like that, that just isn't this this especially even for

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Speaker 3: Knicks fans. But like, tell me the Pacers fans, because

630
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 3: when's the last time the Pacers were in these situations?

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Speaker 5: I can see right honestly, Ben, since I've been in college.

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Speaker 3: So you know, tell me that the Pacers fan base

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Speaker 3: that's never had these sorts of like the state of

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Speaker 3: Indiana is not ripe with championships everywhere post Peyton Manning's

635
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Speaker 3: life right like in the NFL. So I just think

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Speaker 3: that this feels like such a wildly overreaction moment from

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Speaker 3: the Knicks.

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Speaker 4: That's fine though, because all those different moments that you

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Speaker 4: mentioned that we're not with with championship implication.

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Speaker 5: Fitz, people do remember them.

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Speaker 4: And then you were just sitting there arguing that people

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Speaker 4: are not going to remember this next victory over the

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Speaker 4: Boston Celtics.

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Speaker 2: Well, they remember it because remember the Championship.

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Speaker 3: Do you really think that if Team USA hadn't won

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Speaker 3: the Gold that year, if Team US goes in and

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Speaker 3: just it.

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Speaker 4: Would make much less good movie.

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Speaker 3: That's where they do the Law and Order aning where

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Speaker 3: it just ends after the Gold, like after the Duke.

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Speaker 3: Do you believe in miracles and then the screen just

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00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 3: comes up and says Team USA later lost but took

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Speaker 3: the silver medal.

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Speaker 2: Right, I just it just doesn't matter as much.

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Speaker 5: But it is.

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Speaker 4: It is a it's a unique major market discussion because

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Speaker 4: it is Boston and New York, and New York never

658
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 4: beats Boston and basketball this way. So again, I understand

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Speaker 4: what you're saying. They have to continue to do it.

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Speaker 4: I think they are capable of doing again against the

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Speaker 4: Indiana Pacers. Of course, they will have to prove that

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Speaker 4: throughout the course of this next series, and that's going

663
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Speaker 4: to be a tightly contested series. Indiana is a quality

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Speaker 4: basketball team. Halliburton, whether whether or not you believe him

665
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Speaker 4: to be overrated or not, is playing up to expectation.

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Speaker 5: It's just a silly narrative thing we gravitate to.

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Speaker 3: With sufficiently rated, like just make it sufficiently rated.

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Speaker 4: I feel that he is sufficiently rated, but I think

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Speaker 4: he would prefer to be overrated so they can, so

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Speaker 4: that he can continue to feed off of this narrative

671
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Speaker 4: that he is the most overrated NBA basketball player. But

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Speaker 4: you've got a couple of different dynamics going on here.

673
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Speaker 4: New York as a basketball market, when have they ever

674
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Speaker 4: had the finisher Jalen Brunson is that clutch player.

675
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Speaker 5: Jalen Brunson has greater moments.

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Speaker 4: Because what you are saying is completely accurate about the

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Speaker 4: Boston Celtics and the championship that they won last year.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, if they didn't do it this year,

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Speaker 4: prior to Jason Tatum's Achilles injury, we would have expected,

680
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Speaker 4: we would have probably made them the favorites to win

681
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Speaker 4: the championship at twenty twenty six. Right, But Tatum, for

682
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Speaker 4: all his greatness and for all he brings to the table,

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Speaker 4: and as badly as they needed him obviously in this series,

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Speaker 4: and even when they got the good Tatum's games in

685
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Speaker 4: this series, he's never had a moment like Jalen Brunson had,

686
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Speaker 4: even just knocking the Pistons out like For as much

687
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Speaker 4: as the New York basketball fan and as much as

688
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Speaker 4: that specific player is feeding off of it, New York

689
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Speaker 4: wants this.

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Speaker 5: New York wants to be underrated.

691
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Speaker 4: They want to have the tiny, little six to two

692
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Speaker 4: guy who's out there to kick your ass night in

693
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Speaker 4: and night out. That's why it's gravitate or picking up

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Speaker 4: as much hype as it has, at least from my perspective.

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Speaker 2: I'm buying that.

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Speaker 3: I just think, if the Celtics go out, or sorry,

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Speaker 3: if the Knicks go out and they lose to Indiana,

698
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Speaker 3: or they lose in the NBA Finals, and four months

699
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Speaker 3: from now, they're sitting at a bar and a guy

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Speaker 3: walks in with the Celtics shirt and they turn around,

701
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Speaker 3: they're like, you suck man, we took you guys down

702
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Speaker 3: in the playoffs. All the Celtics guy I gotta do

703
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 3: is turn around and say, you know what, when was

704
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Speaker 3: your last Lario O'Brien chovy, because ours was a year ago,

705
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 3: when was the last championship you won? You haven't finished

706
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Speaker 3: that portion of the argument, and that portion of the

707
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Speaker 3: argument is never gonna go away, Like it's just until

708
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Speaker 3: you actually win Chips, nothing changes that portion of it.

709
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Speaker 3: By the way, Championship Worthy is what you could call

710
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Speaker 3: the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel, a ton of great

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Speaker 3: videos from many of our Fox Sports Radio shows. Just

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Speaker 3: search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube. You'll see a whole

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Speaker 3: bunch of video highlights from our shows. And be sure

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Speaker 3: to subscribe so you always have instant access to our

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports.

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Speaker 2: Radio videos on YouTube. All of this raises one interesting thing.

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Speaker 3: As much as we sit here and talk about and

718
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 3: so so much of the CEAR has been spent talking

719
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Speaker 3: about things that are wrong with the NBA. The NBA

720
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Speaker 3: right now is doing something that the NFL can't even imagine,

721
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Speaker 3: and they desperately want to try and figure out how

722
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Speaker 3: to accomplish the same thing. We'll tell you what it

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Speaker 3: is next. He's Buck Rising on Jason Fitzw're hanging out

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Speaker 3: with you on a Fox Sports Saturday on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 4: Two weeks ago, the Celtics, they were the favorites to

727
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Speaker 4: come out of the East, the defending NBA champion. If

728
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Speaker 4: you didn't think they were going to get it done

729
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Speaker 4: this year, then you for sure thought that they were

730
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Speaker 4: going to be at the front of the line in

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty six. Why wouldn't you. They're one of the

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Speaker 4: best teams in basketball. But now they're out an absolute

733
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Speaker 4: disaster against the New York Knicks from Boston that sent

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Speaker 4: their future because of an injury to Jason Tatum, because

735
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Speaker 4: of some questions now about how they're going to fill

736
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Speaker 4: that role. That sent their future into a spiral. But

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Speaker 4: what it has also done is allowed the sport an

738
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Speaker 4: opportunity to crown another champion once again.

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Speaker 5: And that is something that Jason Fits. He's Jason Fits

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Speaker 5: on Buck Rising.

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Speaker 4: You listen to Fox Sports Radio on a Fox Sports Saturday.

742
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Speaker 4: That is something that FITZI was alluding to as to

743
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Speaker 4: the something that the NFL is after desperately and has

744
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 4: tried to successfully and you know, most years has successfully

745
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 4: orchestrated in its sport, but just new blood, different storylines,

746
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 4: higher level of interest, broader national interest.

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Speaker 5: Even though the brands.

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Speaker 4: That are winning in the NFL, and they are brands

749
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Speaker 4: at the end of the day, are still the most

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Speaker 4: popular brands. There's nothing wrong with shaking the tree every

751
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Speaker 4: once in a while.

752
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 5: That's what we're getting in the NBA.

753
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Speaker 4: The postseason has been fun for so many different reasons.

754
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Speaker 4: And whatever Jason fitz may think of the New York

755
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Speaker 4: Sports Fans celebration, Okay, say, I know the nice thing

756
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 4: about Timothy Shalam before we continue with this one more

757
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Speaker 4: nice thing.

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Speaker 2: He was the second best, third best. Willy Wonka Like.

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Speaker 8: That for someone who hasn't taken an l over the

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Speaker 8: past like two years, it's it can't be this hard

761
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Speaker 8: to find something nice to say about him. Did you

762
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Speaker 8: see Dune two?

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Speaker 2: Fits?

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Speaker 3: I didn't see Dune one. I saw the original Dune

765
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Speaker 3: in the eighties. Like that's the like I did not.

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Speaker 8: I mean even something like he's a good actor would suffice? Right?

767
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Speaker 2: Is it that I don't really know? Like I honestly

768
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Speaker 2: like I fell asleep. I tried to watch Dune one

769
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Speaker 2: and I fell asleep. So I was like, all right,

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Speaker 2: I'm out on that.

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Speaker 8: And like fashion style, n job.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, he looks like a million bucks. He looks

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Speaker 3: like a million bucks. Yeah, Like, and he's like he's

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Speaker 3: a star. He walks into the room and he's a star.

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Speaker 3: I just, I just I can't tell, Like I, like

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Speaker 3: I said, I watch a lot of.

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Speaker 8: Nicki Minaj's performance he did in middle school.

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Speaker 2: I have never seen this Nicki Minaj performance in school.

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Speaker 5: I like it just sounds like you're out of the culture,

780
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 5: is what I feel.

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Speaker 2: He needs him.

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00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 8: He needs some haters though, like I think he nobody

783
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 8: hates him, so I feel like you being his hater

784
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Speaker 8: that's needed.

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Speaker 3: I'm just, I just, I'm just very Look, I grew

786
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Speaker 3: up in a very honest family. Like when I was

787
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Speaker 3: when I was little kid when I was ten years old,

788
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Speaker 3: humble brag and played Carnegie Hall. Like when I was

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Speaker 3: ten years old, I was an accomplished musician, and my

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Speaker 3: mom walked in when I was practicing for Carnegie Hall,

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Speaker 3: and my mom said, if that's the best you can

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Speaker 3: play the gd thing, just put it away today.

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Speaker 2: Like that's how I grew up.

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Speaker 3: So I grew up like I came off stage after

795
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Speaker 3: competitions that I won the in the violin world as

796
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Speaker 3: a little kid, I came off stage and my mom

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Speaker 3: would be like, no, we're not celebrating that. I've heard

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Speaker 3: you play it better. It wasn't good enough. Like that's

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Speaker 3: just I grew up in a very blunt household. So

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Speaker 3: when you ask me to compliment Timothy shallow May, it's

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Speaker 3: not that I have anything.

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Speaker 2: It's just I didn't see Dune.

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Speaker 3: I didn't really like the version of Walkee he did,

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Speaker 3: Like it just wasn't that movie wasn't my thing right now? No, no, no,

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Speaker 3: like this not like I think it's the reason that

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Speaker 3: my friends don't invite me to their kids dance recital though,

807
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Speaker 3: Like I'll sit there and I'll be like, yeah, your

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00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 3: kid sucks and he's like, but they're twelve, and I'm like,

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Speaker 3: what do you I don't care, like you can't make

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Speaker 3: k can't dance.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just look, I'm very honest.

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Speaker 3: That's also I'd like I haven't seen enough of his

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Speaker 3: stuff to know what's good, or that I just don't know.

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Speaker 4: The three of us collectively decided. I don't know how

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Speaker 4: Steve feels about this back in Los Angeles, but the

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00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 4: three of us at the very least have decided that

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Speaker 4: you're a hater.

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Speaker 5: It's just it shouldn't be that hard.

819
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Speaker 4: It shouldn't be like pulling teeth for you to say

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Speaker 4: something nice about Timothy Shallamack, Okay, well tim about tim

821
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Speaker 4: Timmy show, I feel like I already have. He is

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Speaker 4: a superstar. I'm jealous that he can make unlaced Timberlinds

823
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Speaker 4: into that big of a fashion statement. I'm jealous of

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Speaker 4: his seats at the next game. I'm jealous of the

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Speaker 4: way that he is willing to just throw himself into

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Speaker 4: a crowd of New York sports fans whilst being held

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Speaker 4: by his waist by his security guard, just so they

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Speaker 4: don't take what is it? Lisan Algaive into the New

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Speaker 4: York streets out of the car that they are trying

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Speaker 4: to take him away.

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Speaker 5: And I love the I love the vibe.

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Speaker 4: I'm very I am very appreciative of the vibe. Nthy

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Speaker 4: shall see we're supposed to be talking about championships here.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know what, Timothy Shallomey is a current champion,

835
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Speaker 3: like because he's a champion of life.

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Speaker 2: You know, look look at that. That's a segment.

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Speaker 5: But Jones just making appearance snack out fourth.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I mean, what do you guys want

839
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Speaker 2: me to do?

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Speaker 3: I just haven't seen enough of his work to be

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Speaker 3: if yousive been praised for we got him on his heels.

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Speaker 5: We've got him on his heels.

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Speaker 4: He was wrong about the Celtics, now he's wrong about Shallama.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest.

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Speaker 3: When Shallomay was hosting SNL again, I watch a lot

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Speaker 3: of Saturday Night Life. When he was hosting SNL, I

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Speaker 3: was like, oh.

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Speaker 2: What's he done? Like that's that's where I was on it. Like,

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Speaker 2: I just I didn't know. I you know, it's okay

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Speaker 2: to there's certain you know movies. It's a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a blind spot for me, that's all. You know.

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Speaker 8: Well, you see him on blind Spot book. Did you

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Speaker 8: see him on college game Day? And he was you know,

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Speaker 8: he came talking about Parker Navarro. He had stats on

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Speaker 8: quarterbacks from the MAC like.

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Speaker 3: They Yeah, the only thing with college game Day is

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Speaker 3: there's a prominent country music artist. It was on game

858
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Speaker 3: day that picked the most games right that year that

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Speaker 3: he was on game day, which wasn't as much of

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Speaker 3: an impressive feat considering he called me the day before

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Speaker 3: like he got he got the picks from me and Herbie.

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Speaker 3: So like a lot of times when the guests go

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00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 3: on game day, they're talking to their buddies before they

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Speaker 3: go on game I just I didn't know this. I

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Speaker 3: didn't quite stop it. I cater might could have been

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Speaker 3: that's sure.

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Speaker 2: I love. I'm not a hater. I'm just okay, fine.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Parody really exists, but it's not in the NFL. We'll

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Speaker 3: tell you more about it. He's Buck Rising, I'm Jason

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Speaker 3: fitz Less, Timothy shallow May maybe on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: The NFL is the biggest sport in America, and that's

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Speaker 3: not even close. We all know that, and in fact,

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00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 3: most of the time we can look at the NFL

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00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,919
Speaker 3: and the model and how they do what they do

877
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 3: and say, man, maybe everybody should emulate it. It's rare

878
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 3: that the NFL does something that everyone else does better.

879
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 3: But the fact is, at the end of the day,

880
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 3: one thing became abundantly clear last night. The NBA is

881
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 3: kicking the NFL's butt at one important thing, and that

882
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 3: is championship level parody. He's Buck Rising, I'm Jason fitz

883
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 3: hear me out.

884
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: We'll explain this. We're coming at your.

885
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 3: Life from the Fox Sports Studio on Fox Sports Radio.

886
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 5: Buck.

887
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 3: Seven straight years, the NBA has given us a different

888
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 3: champion seven straight years. So we know that that's gonna

889
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 3: happen now because the Celtics lost, which means they will

890
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 3: not be defending. Obviously, the Nuggets could be a repeat champion,

891
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 3: but it wouldn't be a back to back champion. So

892
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 3: seven straight years we haven't had a back to back champion.

893
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 3: Everything continually changes in the NBA, and that's only funny

894
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 3: to me because for all the things the NBA does wrong,

895
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 3: parody is one of the things they're doing right. The

896
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 3: ability to give us a different champion constantly versus the NFL,

897
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 3: which is over here telling us.

898
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 2: All the time. We have parody, we have parity, we

899
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: have barty.

900
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 3: Because the middle class of the NFL is constantly fluctuating.

901
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 3: You can go from lower class to middle class to

902
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 3: lower middle class constantly.

903
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 2: But if we're being honest, for the last forty years.

904
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 3: I mean, there was a dynasty in the seventies of

905
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 3: the Steelers. In to a certain degree of the Raiders. There

906
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 3: was a dynasty in the eighties of the Cowboys.

907
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 2: Dynasty in the nineties or the forty nine ers might

908
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 2: be flipping that.

909
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 3: Actually a dynasty of the Patriots that lasted forever, and

910
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 3: now we have a dynasty to you, the Chiefs, like

911
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 3: the NFL continually promises.

912
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 2: Us parody, but they don't really give us that. At

913
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 2: the championship level. They give us basically the same group

914
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 2: of teams that are always going to be the best.

915
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 3: The NBA is giving us a different champion every single year,

916
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 3: and they seem to be coming from different non traditional

917
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 3: NBA markets, Like this is all a beautiful thing that

918
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 3: should be celebrated.

919
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 4: Yes, I don't disagree with you, but it's it's not

920
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 4: to me really comparable FITSI because in the NBA, you

921
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 4: can impact the outcome of a game with one single player.

922
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 4: And I know that most people would argue that you

923
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 4: can impact the outcome of a game in the NFL

924
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 4: with one single player, but it is significantly harder to do.

925
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 4: I mean, we just saw Patrick Mahomes is the most

926
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 4: talented quarterback I've ever seen in my lifetime.

927
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 5: Tom Brady is the best winner. Right.

928
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 4: It's kind of a different version of the Lebron and

929
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 4: Jordan conversation. Jordan is the greatest winner that we know.

930
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 4: Lebron is the most talented player. I think most people

931
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 4: would agree, except I'm sure that Jordan people would freak

932
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 4: the hell out.

933
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 5: But we don't have to get into that just year.

934
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 5: Twitter's going to be Yeah, that's fine.

935
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 4: People are just tweeting me about you don't look anything

936
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 4: like your voice sounds at this point in time. That's

937
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 4: basically the bulk of the messages that I've been getting

938
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 4: since we started doing the Fox thing. But we just

939
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,959
Speaker 4: saw Patrick Mahomes go to the super Bowl, the most

940
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 4: talented quarterback most people have ever seen in their football

941
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 4: consuming lives, and get his ass whipped because he's not

942
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 4: on the better team. There are so many different things

943
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 4: that can be impacted throughout the course of an NFL

944
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 4: game that are completely outside of Patrick Mahomes's control, to

945
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 4: the point where it creates this lack of or this

946
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 4: different kind of a comparison where one player in the

947
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 4: NBA can be the difference, and of course the quarterback

948
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 4: in the NFL can be the difference, but it's so

949
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 4: much harder for the quarterback to actually do.

950
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 3: We're sitting though, in this current conversation talking about all

951
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 3: these conspiracy theorists that want to sit there and say, oh,

952
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 3: the league wanted to make sure that Luca went to

953
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 3: the Lakers, so that the Lakers were protected with the Star,

954
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 3: and then they were going to make sure the MAVs

955
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 3: won the lottery, so the MAVs are rewarded with Cooperati.

956
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 5: Who is denied.

957
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: Okay, No, everybody's denying this is not at all what happened. Yeah,

958
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 3: but a lot of that is what happened. Okay, But realistically,

959
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 3: to your point, I think it's a it's a valid one. Look,

960
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 3: if you if you are able to hit on a

961
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 3: quarterback and a coach at the same time that speak

962
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 3: the same language and have a special connection, you are

963
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 3: going to win a.

964
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 2: Ton of Super Bowls. That's just the way it's going

965
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 2: to be.

966
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 3: Like that was Bill Walsh and Joe Montana, Bill Walsh

967
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 3: and Steve Young and obviously Belichick and Tom Brady and

968
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 3: Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes. Like I continually say that

969
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 3: instead of just making a quarterback conversation, I think it's

970
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 3: like a tag team in pro wrestling.

971
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,439
Speaker 2: You got to have two guys that are really good,

972
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: not just one.

973
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 3: I understand why that leads to dynastic moments, right, one

974
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 3: hundred percent. That makes sense in my It's usually a

975
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame coach with a Hall of Fame caliber quarterback,

976
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 3: and that leads you to massive success the NBA. You

977
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 3: need one great play, you need a Giannis, and you

978
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 3: can win a championship. But realistically, it doesn't change the

979
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 3: fact that Giannis wins won. He doesn't win eighteen. You know,

980
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 3: Jannis isn't winning six in a row. When when the

981
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 3: Bucks won their chip, all of the conversation was, well,

982
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 3: how many they're gonna win now? And now it's does

983
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 3: Giannis want to go somewhere else to try and win

984
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 3: more championships moving forward? Like yes, I mean yes, I

985
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 3: mean for the sake for the sake of all of us.

986
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 3: I'd love to see Jannis continually be in the NBA

987
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 3: championship conversation, even you just mentioned Lebron, Like Lebron cannot

988
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 3: single handedly will his.

989
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 2: Team to a championship.

990
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 3: It just isn't gonna work that way, right, So if

991
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 3: you if you look at it, all I'm saying is

992
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 3: that the way we critique the NBA, it makes it

993
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 3: sound like the NBA doesn't do anything right. But parody

994
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 3: is the objective of most sports. Most sports want to

995
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 3: have They want to have parody. This is interesting actually,

996
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 3: as I think that, well maybe in my mind most

997
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 3: sports want to have parody in the fact that everybody

998
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 3: feels like they're in the running, and then at the

999
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 3: very end, the the biggest stars and the biggest markets win.

1000
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 4: I wonder what is actually better for the interest level

1001
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 4: in a league to have a dynastic figure. In this case,

1002
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 4: we'll just use the most recent example, the Kansas City Chiefs,

1003
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 4: that everybody is trying to knock off and everybody is chasing,

1004
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 4: and once you slay the dragon, you're the greatest to

1005
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 4: ever do it, like this year's Philadelphia Eagles, and it

1006
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 4: doesn't hurt that they did it in dominant fashion, right,

1007
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 4: But the idea that the NFL is so fascinated the

1008
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 4: rest of the NFL is so fascinated week in week

1009
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 4: out in who's going to be the team to knock

1010
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 4: off the Chiefs? Are the Chiefs going to survive this week?

1011
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 4: Versus the NBA, where you're not really sure what to

1012
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 4: expect it. Obviously, the thing that is most impacting the

1013
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 4: fact that we're not talking about the Boston Celtics being

1014
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 4: in this conversation is the fact that Jason Tatum ruptured

1015
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 4: his achilles and that's a terrible situation and something that's

1016
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 4: probably going to take a full year for him to

1017
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 4: get back to what we believed Jason Tatum is, especially

1018
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 4: what is he twenty seven, twenty eight at this point

1019
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 4: in time. It's just an unfortunate injury with the timing

1020
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 4: in what their competitive cycle should be as a franchise.

1021
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 4: But I'm not really sure what the answer to that

1022
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 4: question is. What is better for the interest in the

1023
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 4: league chasing a dominant champion that everybody is collectively working

1024
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 4: towards trying to knock off, or just kind of the

1025
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 4: throw your hands up in the air, put the ball

1026
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 4: on the court and see what happens in any given series.

1027
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 2: I'm starting to think through this process.

1028
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 3: And by the way, Preller forever tweeted us a sad

1029
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 3: parody sucks dynasties give us something more to root foreign

1030
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 3: against parody socialism and sports form and completely Unamerican socialism reference.

1031
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 3: I mean, calm down, all right, just relax. But the

1032
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 3: other side of that, I will say is that I

1033
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 3: think the answer is not parody at the top, because

1034
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 3: I do think that having a dynasty to root for

1035
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 3: and against works.

1036
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 2: Like when Golden State was winning.

1037
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 3: Chip after chip after chip, people loved it and hated it.

1038
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 3: I think having a top one percent of your league

1039
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 3: that is a dynasty everybody's chasing is important. Actually, where

1040
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 3: I think parody is important is not for the top.

1041
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: It's for the bottom.

1042
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 3: You can't have a Washington Wizards team that is just

1043
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 3: gonna be bad for as long as they're gonna be

1044
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 3: bad before they try and rework anything. In the NFL,

1045
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 3: you rarely have that. It is rare. Look the Raiders

1046
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 3: for example, again my fandom, they can suck.

1047
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 2: We all know that, but.

1048
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 3: Every once in a while they pop through and go

1049
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 3: to the playoffs and every once in a while they

1050
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 3: get to seven wins, and like most of these bad

1051
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 3: teams we talk about still have years where they're like, okay,

1052
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 3: got seven eight wins. Yeah, you know, we're not picking

1053
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 3: first every single year. Where you can't have. Where you

1054
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 3: need parody is to secure the middle class. Parody in

1055
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 3: the middle class is what I think makes the NFL

1056
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 3: thrive because right now today, a Washington Wizards fan knows

1057
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 3: that they have zero hope in a championship next.

1058
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 8: Year, the year after probably the year after that.

1059
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 3: A San Antonio Spurs fan knows that even with Wemby,

1060
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 3: their chance of actually winning a championship.

1061
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what five years away. Right.

1062
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 3: If you're a New Orleans Pelicans fan, you've had Zion

1063
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 3: for how many years whatever, that looks like, Okay, you

1064
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 3: thought you were getting somebody that was gonna make you relevant,

1065
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 3: yet again didn't work. The only thing that happens for

1066
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 3: the Pelicans is eventually it'll be like Anthony Davis, He'll

1067
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 3: go somewhere else, right Like, So, this is what happens

1068
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 3: to the bottom, the bottom feeders of the NBA. They

1069
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 3: never get out of being bottom feeders in the NFL today,

1070
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 3: right now, I've got a buddy that's a Giants fan

1071
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 3: that was trying to convince the entire group text today

1072
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 3: that this team is gonna make a huge resurgence and

1073
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 3: get themselves into the playoffs.

1074
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: And you can walk yourself.

1075
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 3: Into that if you're an NFL fan, because parody allows

1076
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 3: you to believe that your team won't be the worst

1077
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 3: team in the NFL.

1078
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 2: And that's part of what drives everybody into Week one.

1079
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 3: You know, you cover the Titans, the Titans are a disaster,

1080
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 3: but you can't tell me that Titans fans aren't convinced

1081
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 3: today right now? You know what wait wait, wait, no, no, no, man,

1082
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 3: with this cam Ward situation, we got going made some

1083
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 3: big offseason acquisitions. We're gonna get to eight wins, and

1084
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 3: if we get to eight wins, we got a real

1085
00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 3: shot of the playoffs.

1086
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 2: Like that's what they're convince themselves.

1087
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's like you dipped into my mentions

1088
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 4: and pulled out the most optim and it's true. It's

1089
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 4: absolutely true. And that's you know, that's inherent in being

1090
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 4: a sports fan.

1091
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 5: And maybe you.

1092
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Speaker 4: Can facilitate that more fair enough, you can facilitate that

1093
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 4: more in the NFL than you can the NBA. But

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00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 4: the question to me is is more wider scale. And

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00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 4: I know that this conversation took on new life as

1096
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 4: it does each and every year at this time because

1097
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 4: you're coming on the heels of the NBA Draft Lottery,

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Speaker 4: and then people will start to have the discussion of

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00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 4: which I imagine we're going to get into at some

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Speaker 4: point this evening about should the NFL incorporate the NBA

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00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 4: Draft lottery, the draft lottery format and things like that.

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00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 4: So what's more important to these leagues? Because in the

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00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 4: NBA or really where they have the draft lotteries, it

1104
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 4: seems more important to prop up to at least give

1105
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 4: the opportunity to the bigger markets to get the best

1106
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 4: chance at acquiring that star power, because it's more important

1107
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,919
Speaker 4: the leagues for the stars to be in a place

1108
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 4: where they're the most visible, whereas the NFL. You understand

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00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 4: that the NFL is so widely trafficked that if these

1110
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 4: players are actually good enough to pay attention to that

1111
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 4: even though Cam more than number one overall pick, doesn't

1112
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 4: have any primetime games, he can still provide himself the

1113
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 4: opportunity to play himself into primetime. Allah what twenty eleven

1114
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Speaker 4: Cam Newton, who also did not have a single primetime

1115
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 4: game as an NFL rookie, and then we understand how

1116
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 4: he made himself a marquee athlete in America's most popular sport.

1117
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Speaker 4: So I think it's more a question as to what's

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Speaker 4: more important to the leagues is what they're trying to

1119
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Speaker 4: get the attention on, versus how fans are consuming it.

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Speaker 3: I was asked a question on a radio interview last

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Speaker 3: week why NFL teams never have to be concerned with

1122
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 3: market size, And it's such a true point that you

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Speaker 3: just made, Like nobody sits there and says, well, Patrick

1124
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 3: Mahomes in Kansas City, that's a waste, but we do

1125
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 3: say Yannis in Milwaukee, that's a waste. And then we

1126
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 3: sat there when Cooper flag was going to be drafted

1127
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Speaker 3: and I was covering the Final four. There were people

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00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 3: back at the Final four. There were people sitting there saying, man,

1129
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 3: you don't want him to get buried in Utah. No

1130
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 3: one would ever say you don't want the top overall

1131
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 3: pick to get buried in a small market in the NFL,

1132
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 3: because there's no such thing as a small market in

1133
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 3: the NFL. All the markets are huge, and that's accomplished

1134
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 3: in part because of the parody that they have.

1135
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 2: Don't forget. You can stream this show and all.

1136
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,040
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1137
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,640
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1138
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,239
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1139
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,160
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1140
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,319
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1141
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,440
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1142
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 3: so be sure to preset Fox Sports Radio in the

1143
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:37,439
Speaker 3: iHeartRadio app.

1144
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 2: It'll always pop up at the top of your screen.

1145
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 2: See What's old is new again?

1146
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 3: Okay, We're going to keep the conversation going on the

1147
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 3: NBA all night because it is a big, big time

1148
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 3: in the NBA. But there's massive news in the NFL

1149
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 3: this week that came out that will could impact the

1150
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 3: playoffs this year and it would be staggering.

1151
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 2: We'll tell you about it next. He's Buck Rising. I'm

1152
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: Jason Fitzbuckham Fits hanging out on Fox Sports Radio.

1153
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 4: Who the hell is Jason Asbel, Who the hell is

1154
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 4: Timothy Shallomey? Welcome back to a Fox Sports Saturday. He's

1155
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 4: Jason Fitz, I'm Buck rising in Minneapolis this coming week.

1156
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 4: NFL owners, they're going to have a chance to do

1157
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 4: some serious, what I think is damage to the postseason

1158
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 4: seeding in the decades to come. There's a proposal on

1159
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 4: the table from one NFL club that just realized, Hey,

1160
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 4: I'm playing in an incredibly difficult division, and I would

1161
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 4: like to push the odds a little more in my

1162
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 4: favor if I've got one of the best teams in football.

1163
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 4: So it's the Detroit Lions Jason Fitz that are proposing

1164
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,240
Speaker 4: the four division champions and three wild cards in each

1165
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 4: conference to make the playoffs. In the NFL, seven teams

1166
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 4: would then be seated strictly by record, rather than assigning

1167
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 4: the top seeds to the division winners, which is how

1168
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 4: it has been done since what nineteen sixty seven since

1169
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 4: the merger, with the wild cards to follow. If the

1170
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 4: teams have the same record, being a division champion would

1171
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 4: be the first tiebreaker, regardless of the head to head record,

1172
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 4: and Detroit's proposal also calls for things to then be

1173
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:18,720
Speaker 4: receded after the first round. Now we know that Roger Goodell,

1174
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 4: the commissioner of the NFL, conducted an unofficial vote on

1175
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 4: the idea Back in March when the owners' meetings were

1176
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 4: in Palm Beach, I was there for that. There was

1177
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 4: some hemming and hang about it, and a handful of

1178
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 4: teams that seemed based on the conversations that me and

1179
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 4: a lot of other reporters down there had with people

1180
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,240
Speaker 4: around the league, it sounded like a handful of teams

1181
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 4: were ready to approve the proposal. But now at this point,

1182
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 4: as we get ready to see if the owners are

1183
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 4: actually going to push it through, which they'll need twenty

1184
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,720
Speaker 4: four of thirty two NFL owners to vote this thing through,

1185
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 4: I wonder how you feel about the idea of them

1186
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 4: reconfiguring the NFL postseason. Where the NFL postseason feels like

1187
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 4: it's in a pretty good place right now.

1188
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 3: Look, this is not surprising to me that Detroit is

1189
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 3: the one suggesting this, because.

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Speaker 2: Look at the path of the North for the.

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00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 3: Next few years. Detroit feels like they're in a window.

1192
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 3: They just watched the Vikings win fourteen games, and for

1193
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 3: that they were rewarded with the opportunity to go on

1194
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 3: the road. They don't want that to happen to them.

1195
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 3: Chicago looks much improved this year, right and we know,

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00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 3: Green Bay looks like they're in a pretty good situation.

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Speaker 4: Does this Caleb Williams know how to watch film? I

1198
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 4: don't know if you read that article by Seth where

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Speaker 4: Chris shamwore Chicago coach has just got to put him

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00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 4: in a room and said.

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Speaker 3: All right, figure it out, Bud anyway, which I also

1202
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 3: love that RG three was like, this is coaching malpractice.

1203
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 3: And then Kurt Warner came back and quote tweeted that

1204
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 3: and said, no one ever showed me how.

1205
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 2: To watch films. I don't even know everybody's arguing.

1206
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 3: About everybody, I believe, but I do think that this

1207
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 3: shows you Detroit knows that they're up against it and

1208
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 3: they can win a lot of games and be forced

1209
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 3: to go on the road, and they don't want to

1210
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 3: have to do that, which also buck makes sense because

1211
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 3: a's at some point we do.

1212
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Speaker 2: It used to be such a rarity that.

1213
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 3: A bad team would make the playoffs, Like when the

1214
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 3: first team with the losing record made the playoffs, it

1215
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 3: was like, well, this is a once in a lifetime thing,

1216
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 3: And when the next team with the losing record made

1217
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 3: the playoffs, it's like, oh, this is a twice in

1218
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 3: a lifetime thing. But now when you see it's not

1219
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 3: even just about having a losing record, like simply the

1220
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 3: right now, based on what we think we know today,

1221
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 3: I would make the argument that it is likely that

1222
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 3: the winner of the AFC South, for example, is probably

1223
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 3: not going to be as good as some of the

1224
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 3: other teams in the AFC.

1225
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 4: Are going to shut your mouth, You shut your mouth

1226
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 4: right now. Just why is it always everything in the

1227
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 4: NFL changes? And this division I love in Nashville. For

1228
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 4: people who are listening to Fox Sports nationally this evening,

1229
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 4: this division is cheeks.

1230
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 5: You're in and year out, you can't do anything to say,

1231
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 5: but it's crazy.

1232
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,280
Speaker 3: But at some point you look at, okay, so this year,

1233
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 3: if we end up with a situation where man, all

1234
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 3: of a sudden, if you're the Lions and you're looking

1235
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 3: around and you saying, well, you want me to go

1236
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 3: on the road and take on And let's say the

1237
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 3: NFC South is also bad all as many people think

1238
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 3: it might be. I think that's a little disrespectful to

1239
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay. But fine, let's just say that the NFC

1240
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 3: South is bad. And now you're like, well, we're clearly

1241
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 3: a better football team that won more football games. There

1242
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 3: has to be a solution to this, and right now,

1243
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 3: I think everybody's shell shocked by the reality last year

1244
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 3: that there are a lot of bad football teams. Like

1245
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 3: if you look at the first twelve picks in the draft,

1246
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 3: it was a reminder that there were ten teams that

1247
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 3: lost double digit games.

1248
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 2: Like there's just bad teams all over the league right now.

1249
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 3: Now that bounces and changes, as we talked about earlier

1250
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 3: with parody, But Buck, I think if you're the league,

1251
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 3: you got to look at it and say, hey, I

1252
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 3: want to protect my best teams. I want to make

1253
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 3: sure that we do everything we can to have chaos

1254
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 3: but still have the best teams end up in the

1255
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 3: Super Bowl wherever possible. We don't want bad teams to

1256
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 3: consistently find their way through. So I think this proposal

1257
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 3: makes sense.

1258
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 4: For that, But I don't really think that at the

1259
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 4: crux of it. And again, Albert Breer was the first

1260
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 4: on the reporting on this at Sports illustri there's some

1261
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 4: really good information in there. I don't think it's it's

1262
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 4: about as much. Maybe that's an ancillary benefit. I don't

1263
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 4: think it's as much about that as it is or

1264
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 4: at least as it seems to be in trying to

1265
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 4: keep late games more relevant in the regular season with

1266
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 4: this what they're calling an open seeding system, because if

1267
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 4: the and Rear lays this out in his piece, in

1268
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 4: the current system, Houston, as you mentioned, the AFC South

1269
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 4: went into Week eighteen locked into the fourth seed, right,

1270
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 4: so they played the Tennessee Titans here in Nashville in

1271
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 4: Week eighteen.

1272
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 5: Outcome didn't matter other than for the Titans.

1273
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 4: They would have been able to secure the number one

1274
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 4: overall pick if they'd have lost the game, and they

1275
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 4: were able to do that, and then Joe Milton went

1276
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 4: out there and beat the Buffalo Bills because the Bills

1277
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 4: had no interest in letting the Patriots get the number

1278
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 4: one over all picks.

1279
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 5: VFL.

1280
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 4: We love to see it, but in this scenario, Houston

1281
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 4: would not be locked in in Week eighteen. In the

1282
00:57:55,560 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 4: new system, seeds numbers four, five, six, or seven would

1283
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 4: have been possibilities at that point for a division champion.

1284
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 4: Same for the Rams into Week eighteen, they knew they'd

1285
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 4: be the number three or the number four. They could

1286
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 4: have been four or five, six or seven in that system.

1287
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 4: It seems there are a couple of different reasons why

1288
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 4: the NFL is exploring this, but it seems to be

1289
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 4: more about just keeping juice in the regular season late

1290
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 4: in the season as much as it is tinkering with

1291
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 4: the postseason at this point.

1292
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 3: I mean, that's been a crux for the NFL for years.

1293
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 3: Their decision to take the last game of the season

1294
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 3: and make it only divisional matchups and make all of

1295
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 3: the times TBD is one of the smartest things I

1296
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 3: think the NFL has done in the last twenty years.

1297
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 3: They've forced the last weekend to be interesting. What they

1298
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 3: don't want is everybody to essentially tune out into secret

1299
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 3: lives and Mormon wives. They want people actually paying attention

1300
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 3: to what is happening.

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00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 4: I still the field in that moment. That's what I

1302
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 4: believe you. I don't believe you at all. No way

1303
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 4: in hell you couldn't have come up with a more

1304
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 4: random combination of words to throw together into a television

1305
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 4: show title.

1306
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 3: I cannot believe you didn't know like looks. It's a

1307
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 3: shame that I don't know more of the great work

1308
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 3: of Timothy Shallony. I will acknowledge that you need to

1309
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 3: start watching more trash TV. If you don't know, like

1310
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 3: once you've watched like, you know, love on the spectrum,

1311
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 3: then you'll start to get all of the ads for

1312
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 3: things like secret lives and Mormon Wives. That's the way

1313
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 3: this thing works. Like you got to watch a little

1314
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 3: trash TV, then the algorithm will be like, oh, by

1315
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 3: the way, you have no life, go ahead watch this.

1316
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 4: I feel like I need the piano tinkle in the

1317
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 4: background as I prepare to tell people that I don't

1318
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 4: watch trash TV, I DVR sixty minute.

1319
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 8: I need to roll in that piano tinkle just so

1320
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 8: we can have that for you guys.

1321
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 3: I'm just also like the more we say tle on

1322
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 3: the show, the happier I get.

1323
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 2: Like we just keep saying tinkle over and over.

1324
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 4: No, you could do a lot worse than having that

1325
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 4: piano noise ready to rocky, because there's gonna be a

1326
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 4: lot of moments and in our time together. That I

1327
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 4: sound pretentious and dvring sixty minutes instead of w Secret

1328
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 4: Lives of Mormon Wives.

1329
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 2: Jd are sixty minutes.

1330
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 3: That's right, you still watch sixty minutes every week.

1331
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 2: But I'm like, you're doing the nonficulties.

1332
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, for sure, for sure, what are we doing

1333
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 5: here like that in Farid Zakaria's GPS great show, not as.

1334
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 8: Where you cut it.

1335
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 4: I can't do it, not care it's too much for me. Jersey, Sure, well, yeah,

1336
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 4: that's the bane of my existence. That that's still I mean, listen,

1337
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 4: I I can appreciate that other people like it, and

1338
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 4: I have no interest in any of that stuff I feel.

1339
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 5: I have tried to watch what is it Love is Blind?

1340
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 4: I made it about ten minutes into a Love is

1341
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 4: Blind episode before I realized, oh my god, I can

1342
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 4: feel my brain melting.

1343
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 3: I think part of it for me is that I

1344
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 3: use TV as background noise all the time. I don't

1345
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 3: really want to focus on anything, so trash TV allows

1346
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 3: me to use it as background noise. I think there

1347
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 3: is one other thing that the NFL really does right

1348
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 3: at the end of the year, by the way, that

1349
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 3: is key and needs to stay exactly the way it is.

1350
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 3: We'll tell you about it in a second, but first,

1351
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 3: Steve de Seger, feel free to chime in on secret

1352
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 3: lives and Mormon wives, Steve, but also get us caught

1353
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 3: up on what's going on in the world of succer.

1354
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 7: I got nothing to offer there and no team from

1355
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 7: the state of Utah is playing tonight to the NHL

1356
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 7: Playoffs second round. Jets have taken a one nothing lead

1357
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 7: at Dallas their mid second period. This is Game six

1358
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 7: of their series, Dallas leading the series three games to two.

1359
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 7: There's a Game seven on Sunday night with Florida at Toronto.

1360
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 7: The winner goes to the East Final against Carolina. Alex

1361
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 7: Ovechkin will return to play for Washington next season, his

1362
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 7: twenty first.

1363
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 5: With the Caps.

1364
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 7: The NBA's second Round ends on Sunday with a Game

1365
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 7: seven Denver at Oklahoma City. Denvers Aaron Gordon questionable for

1366
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 7: Sunday with a strained hamstring. In a WNBA season opener

1367
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 7: Indiana Beach Chicago ninety three point fifty eight, Kaitlin Clark

1368
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 7: a triple double journalism the favorite, won the Preakness coming

1369
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 7: from behind late. Scottie Scheffler leads the PGA Championship by

1370
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 7: three strokes after a third round sixty five. John ram

1371
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 7: Is five shots back, rising to Shambo six behind. In

1372
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 7: Major League Soccer, Toronto was a six to one winner

1373
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 7: over Montreal. Chicago won at Charlotte final minutes. I should

1374
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 7: say for to one is the lead and in the

1375
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 7: UFL Michigan six and two one at Houston thirty to

1376
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 7: eighteen to Major League Baseball. The Angels are out to

1377
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 7: a three to nzing lead against Clayton Kershaw at Dodger Stadium,

1378
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 7: bottom of the first.

1379
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 5: The Mets in New York.

1380
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 7: Against the Yankees got a run top of the ninth

1381
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 7: and beat the Yanks three to two. Cubs and Blue

1382
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 7: Jays each one. Today, Raise a winner and the Nationals

1383
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 7: won ten six at Baltimore. The Orioles before the game

1384
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 7: fired manager Brandon Hyde. Tonight, Philadelphia beat the Pirates five

1385
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 7: to two, Reds and Cardinals each one. In progress, the

1386
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 7: Diamondbacks only lead eight to six against the Rockies, but

1387
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 7: it's only bottom of the fourth inning. The Rockies on

1388
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 7: the road two and twenty one this year. On Fox TV,

1389
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 7: going to the eighth inning, the Braves are up six

1390
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 7: to four at Boston and to the ninth at Texas

1391
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 7: Rangers five to one over the Stros, who've committed three errors.

1392
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 3: Back to you, he's Buck Rising on Jason Fitz were

1393
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 3: hanging out with the Fox Sports Saturday on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, Buck,

1394
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 3: you were mentioning things late in the season. They continued

1395
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 3: to keep people interested and invested in the NFL, and

1396
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 3: that's part of what this schedule or part of what

1397
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 3: this proposed playoff for receding is part of the logic

1398
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 3: behind it.

1399
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 2: I want to take.

1400
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 3: Another level to this, though, and mention what the draft

1401
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 3: does to the end of the season, because.

1402
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 2: You just glossed over it a little bit, but Titans.

1403
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 3: Fans were absolutely invested in every single thing that happened

1404
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 3: in Week eighteen. Fact, if you were a Titans fan,

1405
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 3: you were watching multiple games, and yet you had to

1406
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:42,959
Speaker 3: because you had a shot at the number one overall pick.

1407
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 3: Raiders fans three weeks into the left in the season

1408
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 3: had a shot at the number one overall pick fans

1409
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 3: were losing their mind watching every single second, watching hoping.

1410
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 2: They were hate watching, They were.

1411
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 3: Hoping to watch their favorite team lose just to help

1412
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 3: their draft pick. And I think we have to remember

1413
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 3: that right now, because over the course of the last

1414
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 3: five or six week of the season, for the teams

1415
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 3: that are the worst, what you are watching for is

1416
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 3: the draft. And that's why I absolutely abhor all the

1417
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 3: way to my core, this concept that the NFL should

1418
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 3: emulate the NBA lottery in the draft.

1419
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 2: I cannot tell you. Let's start with.

1420
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 3: Some specific numbers. This year, with Cooper flag on the line,

1421
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 3: the most important draft pick we've seen since what zion

1422
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 3: I guess the most important draft pick we've seen a

1423
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 3: lottery that unbelievably gives us the Dallas Mavericks. The lottery

1424
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 3: broadcast viewership was down six percent, So guess what when

1425
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 3: it comes to actually watching things, even NBA diehards aren't

1426
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 3: really watching the lottery the way that you think people

1427
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 3: think that they are. In fact, the viewership just in

1428
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 3: general was around two million people. Two million people is nothing,

1429
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:56,959
Speaker 3: And then look at the draft viewership. Overall, about four

1430
01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 3: million people watch the NBA draft right team point six

1431
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 3: million people watch Night one of the NFL Draft. This

1432
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 3: conversation that the NFL needs to do anything like a

1433
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 3: lottery is so stupid because, first and foremost, dude, like,

1434
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 3: right now, if you're a Wizards fan and you're going

1435
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 3: into this draft and you know that you just got

1436
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 3: screwed by a lottery, you now hate your pick. It

1437
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 3: doesn't matter who you get, and so you personally buck

1438
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 3: you cover the Titans. You see the excitement that Tennessee

1439
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 3: has over camboard. You know damn well that if a

1440
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 3: lottery had cost them that first overall pick, and instead,

1441
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 3: let's say they were picking sixth right because of the lottery,

1442
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 3: and they get a player like Ashton Genty, the draft

1443
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 3: plays the exact same Ashton Genty can energize an entire

1444
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 3: fan base. When you know that you're picking six and

1445
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 3: that's the player you think you hope you can get,

1446
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 3: you spend months looking forward to getting who you're gonna

1447
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 3: get it that pick. If instead you're walking into that

1448
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 3: sixth pick knowing that you were the worst team in

1449
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 3: the NFL, you deserve the first overall pick. You didn't

1450
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 3: get the first overall pick. Now you hate whoever gets

1451
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 3: to that pick anyway, You are anti that pick from

1452
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 3: the minute it happens. Why would the NFL ever try

1453
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 3: to do something like that which will lessen their product,

1454
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 3: will lessen their excitement, will lessen the ability to root

1455
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 3: for something for months leading up to it, Like it

1456
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 3: is mind blowing, and all of these national experts, I'm

1457
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 3: looking at the greenies of the world. I watch these

1458
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 3: monologues like y'all that are suggesting it are so out

1459
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 3: of touch with what fans actually want and see that

1460
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 3: it blows my mind.

1461
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 5: No, but it makes me think that something, something.

1462
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 4: Larger is at work here as to why this idea

1463
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 4: keeps coming up other than you know, it's it's May,

1464
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 4: mid May, sports talk media, sports media discourse, right, just

1465
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 4: to talk, compare one thing to another and see if

1466
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 4: there's an argument to be made.

1467
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 5: Other than that.

1468
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 4: It again comes back to fitsie, what does the NFL

1469
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 4: if the NFL were to ever consider it? And I

1470
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 4: do not think that the NFL would ever consider it,

1471
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 4: But if the NFL were, my question would be, all right,

1472
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 4: why are you more interested in seeing Let's just take

1473
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 4: cam War the number one overall pick.

1474
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 5: Right, he's here in Tennessee.

1475
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 4: It's the least I would argue, it's the least renefit

1476
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 4: relevant nationally NFL franchise out there. The NFL has no

1477
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 4: interest in propping up the Tennessee Titans, right, That's not

1478
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 4: a thing cam Ward could have been had by the

1479
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 4: New York Giants. There's a scenario in which you can

1480
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 4: undermine a franchise like Tennessee that you don't care about.

1481
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 4: If the New York Giants, who were not able to

1482
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 4: trade up for the number one overall pick, just miraculously

1483
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 4: happened to end up with the number one overall pick

1484
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 4: by nature of an NFL draft lottery. If the league

1485
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 4: is more invested in propping up its major markets, New York,

1486
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 4: the Giants are more important for the league to have success,

1487
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 4: for the league to rate, for the league and its

1488
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 4: television partners than Tennessee, who the number one overall pick

1489
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 4: can't even get a sniff at a primetime game. The

1490
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 4: only reason he's playing in the three o'clock window is

1491
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 4: all is because the AFC South plays the AFC West

1492
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 4: this year, because they're forced to put him in a

1493
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 4: three o'clock window.

1494
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 5: Otherwise he'd just be a noon.

1495
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 2: Are we partying in Vegas? Meet you Vegas? Tight?

1496
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the first.

1497
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 4: That's one of three NFL stadiums I haven't done yet.

1498
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 4: That's on the list. The Giant Rumba.

1499
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 3: Look, the Giant Rumba, Meet you Vegas for the weekend?

1500
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 3: Like I think this, this, this needs to happen. Look,

1501
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 3: I mentioned earlier that market size doesn't matter, and the

1502
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 3: Lovable Loser tweeted me and said, what on earth are

1503
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 3: you even saying?

1504
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 2: Right now?

1505
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 3: There are small markets in the NFL where quarterbacks get

1506
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 3: drafted and get buried. You could even argue it costs careers.

1507
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 3: Please hand over whatever you're smoking, good sir. I never

1508
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 3: hand over whatever I'm smoking until we're friends, because I

1509
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 3: pay good money for this, So you're not getting my

1510
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 3: weed for free.

1511
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 4: Number two ten years for him to get to pass

1512
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 4: it to me.

1513
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 3: You're right, I'm not puffpuff give. I'm pufpuff keep, like

1514
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 3: that's just a general rule.

1515
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 2: I'm PuF puff keep.

1516
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 3: But the other side of this is I googled it

1517
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 3: just because curiosity killed the cat. The smallest NFL media

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01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 3: markets number one smallest NFL media market, Green Bay, the

1519
01:08:56,479 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 3: number two smallest NFL media market, Buffalo number three, New

1520
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 3: Orleans number four, Jacksonville, number five, Vegas. Now, nobody sat

1521
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 3: there when Trevor Lawrence was drafted. I sat there and

1522
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 3: said the Jags would kill Trevor Lawrence before Trevor Lawrence

1523
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:14,679
Speaker 3: would let down the Jacks.

1524
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:15,759
Speaker 2: That's turned out to be true.

1525
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 3: But nobody sat there and said, oh my god, Trevor

1526
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 3: Lawrence can't go to Jacksonville. That's a small market. Whatever

1527
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 3: are they going to do. Nobody would have said, oh

1528
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,600
Speaker 3: my god, you can't send cam Ward to the Raiders

1529
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 3: that's the fifth smallest market. Like, certainly the packers are legendary.

1530
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:33,640
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter how big their market size. It's like,

1531
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 3: this is what the NFL does. The NFL can market

1532
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 3: anybody to anywhere, so they don't need the lottery system.

1533
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 3: And I, frankly, I don't see why the Jerry Jones

1534
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 3: of the world would ever agree to vote for something

1535
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:48,640
Speaker 3: that could take them out of the running for a

1536
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 3: pick that they've earned by being so bad.

1537
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 4: I guess it's just the logic of earning something for

1538
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 4: being so bad like that, And it's not you know,

1539
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 4: it's not the anti tanking argument because tanking does not

1540
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 4: happen that.

1541
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 5: Way in the NFL.

1542
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 4: The Dolphins tried it and they lost draft compensation over it,

1543
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 4: and there was significant fines handed out over it. Like

1544
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 4: if these things are broached in the National Football League,

1545
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 4: they are pretty summarily swatted down because there's one too

1546
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 4: much gambling money involved in the NFL right now for

1547
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 4: that even to be or any professional sport for that

1548
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 4: even to be.

1549
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 5: Anywhere near the dialogue.

1550
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 4: But two, I guess the only other argument for it

1551
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:31,919
Speaker 4: in this situation is you can still in the NFL

1552
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 4: different than the NBA or the NHL, for example, two

1553
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 4: leagues that do the draft lottery situation, you cannot get

1554
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 4: a game changing, a franchise changing player at the fifth

1555
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:47,600
Speaker 4: overall slot. Right in the NFL, you can in almost

1556
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 4: every draft, right, Patrick Mahomes is a tenth overall pick,

1557
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 4: Josh Allen was, if I'd remember correctly, outside of the

1558
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,680
Speaker 4: top five. Like, these are things in the NFL that

1559
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 4: are more viable to explore than they are in either

1560
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 4: of those two other sports that currently employ the lottery.

1561
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 4: So you would just look at those teams in that

1562
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 4: league and say, well, you don't just get the right

1563
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 4: to draft the best player because you sucked the most

1564
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 4: the previous season. You will have to be better at

1565
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 4: the scouting, at the drafting, at all the different support

1566
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 4: things that you are going to do. If you end

1567
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 4: up picking fourth or fifth or sixth, then that certain situation,

1568
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 4: depending on how the lottery would play itself out, it's

1569
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 4: incumbent upon you to be better rather than for us

1570
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 4: to uplift you.

1571
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 3: There are countless examples over the last five years of

1572
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 3: terrible football teams winning games near the end of the

1573
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 3: season that took them out of the running for the

1574
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 3: first overall picks, coaches and players tried to save their jobs,

1575
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 3: and fan bases absolutely yelled at the top of their lungs.

1576
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,680
Speaker 3: And they do that because, as you mentioned, tanking is

1577
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 3: impossible in the NFL, which is why anybody that says

1578
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 3: here and says a team like the Saints might be

1579
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:56,720
Speaker 3: passing on a quarterback and this year's draft so that

1580
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 3: they can go get arched next year. No, it doesn't

1581
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 3: work that way. Like the concept of trying to tank

1582
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 3: in the NFL is so broken, and the process of

1583
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 3: the draft is so perfect, and I know that drafting

1584
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:11,680
Speaker 3: isn't perfect, but when it comes to the marketing of it,

1585
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 3: when it comes to utilizing college football as your marketing

1586
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 3: arm for the players that are coming in free marketing, basically,

1587
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 3: when it comes to the hype around it, when it

1588
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 3: comes to the numbers on podcasts and shows for draft content,

1589
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,799
Speaker 3: like the NFL draft is untouchable. So just because people

1590
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 3: that are around it all the time get bored with it.

1591
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:31,480
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean it isn't substantial.

1592
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 3: Speaking of getting bored with it, a lot of people

1593
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 3: got bored with the schedule, but it did come out

1594
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 3: this week and there was some substantial news within that schedule.

1595
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 3: We'll tell you about it next these Buck Rising, I'm

1596
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 3: Jason Fitz. We're hanging out with you, bucking fits on

1597
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 3: a Fox Sports Saturday. The NFL schedule release is not

1598
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 3: something that usually particularly excites me, but there's plenty you

1599
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 3: can learn when it comes out, and we learned at

1600
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:59,959
Speaker 3: this point pretty substantially that there are a few brands

1601
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 3: the NFL has absolutely bought in, and there are a

1602
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 3: few brands that the NFL are going to make sure

1603
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 3: you get to see all of that you could ever want.

1604
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 3: It's a statement. He's Buck Rising, I'm Jason fitzbucking Fits,

1605
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 3: hanging out with you on a Fox Sports Saturday. But look,

1606
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 3: we all knew that the Chiefs would get a lot

1607
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 3: of windows, and by windows, I mean areas where they

1608
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 3: are the only team on TV, but still to see

1609
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 3: even before flexing, to see that eight times the Chiefs

1610
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:32,719
Speaker 3: get their own window really made me think of something

1611
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 3: that one of the league executives said to Yahoo Sports

1612
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 3: Charles Robinson last year that at this point the Chiefs

1613
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,680
Speaker 3: are like printing money. Kansas City is like the Cowboys.

1614
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 3: You can put them on TV and the world will watch.

1615
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 3: I have to remind everybody. The Chiefs did not win

1616
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, but when you look at eight games

1617
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 3: in prime windows, it's real. Like we spent the last

1618
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 3: two years, we spent every week sitting here talking about

1619
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 3: how broken the Chiefs look until they get to the

1620
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 3: playoffs and it just doesn't look right, doesn't look easy. Well,

1621
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 3: apparently it looks pretty in the league because eight times

1622
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 3: putting them out there even before they could flex anything else,

1623
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 3: and shows you that the league is going to make

1624
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 3: sure that we all have Chiefs fever or fatigue.

1625
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 4: Well, that's that's the thing, right, You can watch them

1626
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 4: for both reasons. You can be Kansas City has a

1627
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 4: and continues to grow a massive fan base because of

1628
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 4: how much success they've had because.

1629
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 5: Of the star power of their players.

1630
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 4: Obviously, we don't it's not just about Patrick Mahomes, right,

1631
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:32,480
Speaker 4: Travis Kelcey has obviously entered a new level of super stardom,

1632
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 4: and that is going to attract all different elements that

1633
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 4: the league did not previously have and could not previously grasp.

1634
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 5: And now they've got their.

1635
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:42,680
Speaker 4: Grubby little fingers fingers all over it and they want

1636
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 4: don't want to let it go. And Taylor Swift on

1637
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 4: TV as much as humanly possible, no matter how much

1638
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 4: our president, our current president, tweets about the impact that

1639
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 4: he's had on her hotness. I don't know if you

1640
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:55,640
Speaker 4: caught that over the course of the week, Fitzy.

1641
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 2: But we're not somehow I missed, you know, That's God.

1642
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 3: I'm glad sometimes I say off of as much of

1643
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 3: the social media as I can.

1644
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 4: You know, honestly, I would advocate against that. I think

1645
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 4: it made me laugh out loud just because of the ridiculous,

1646
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 4: ridiculousness of it.

1647
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 5: But that's neither here nor there, I am.

1648
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 4: I mean, we knew this about the Chiefs though, right,

1649
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,480
Speaker 4: mahomes Is is polarizing.

1650
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 5: He's not.

1651
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 4: He's not Tom Brady. Right, he's not Bill Belichick. Andy

1652
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 4: Reid is not Bill Belichick. They don't come with the

1653
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 4: negative connotations that they're the previous dynasty did right where

1654
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 4: it's unlikable coach, unlikable quarterback that nobody roots for, even

1655
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 4: though he was the plucky underdog for the first couple

1656
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 4: of championships that he was able to win. It comes

1657
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 4: without the deflate gate, all the other gates that the

1658
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 4: Patriots are associated with, the cheating and the tarnishing of

1659
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 4: their legacies, but they are still polarizing to a degree.

1660
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,520
Speaker 4: The fact that the Cowboys are still in this conversation

1661
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 4: is crazy to me, But I guess that's Jerry his

1662
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:02,719
Speaker 4: business model, and good on him. He understands more about

1663
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 4: how to make money and how to attract attention on

1664
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 4: a football team. At least from a football standpoint, that

1665
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 4: hasn't been relevant almost in my entire lifetime, given the

1666
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 4: last time that they won a championship and just how

1667
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 4: rarely since then they've been able to win playoff games.

1668
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 4: At this point, we're going to get a healthy dose

1669
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 4: of Chiefs. It's teams like the Falcons being on national

1670
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 4: television five different times this year, And I know you

1671
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 4: look at their opponents and you say, well, those aren't

1672
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 4: really Falcons games, right, Those are more about who the

1673
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 4: Falcons are playing as opposed to the Atlanta Falcons being

1674
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 4: nationally televised five different times.

1675
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:40,839
Speaker 5: It's the schedule this year is interesting.

1676
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 4: My honestly biggest takeaway outside of that we're going to

1677
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 4: be force fed Chiefs no matter what, is how much

1678
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 4: juice Amazon has with the league, Given how much they

1679
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 4: are now paying for Thursday Night football Thursday Night football

1680
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 4: has always.

1681
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,600
Speaker 5: Been the dregs of the league, right, I know it.

1682
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 4: I've covered plenty of Titans Jags games on Thursday Night

1683
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 4: in Week three in the Rain with Marcus Mariota and

1684
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:08,799
Speaker 4: Gardner Minshew to understand what it is Thursday night football

1685
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 4: used to be for. But now when you look at

1686
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 4: the slate and understanding that Amazon is paying, I think

1687
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 4: at this point north of eighty million per game. You've

1688
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 4: got the Packers and the Commanders. In Week two, you've

1689
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 4: got the Dolphins and the Bills. In Week three, You've

1690
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 4: got all manner of great games, Chargers, Vikings, Broncos, Raiders, Bears,

1691
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:30,719
Speaker 4: and Eagles. Games that should have a lot of juice

1692
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 4: no matter what point in the season that they are

1693
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 4: being played.

1694
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 5: And you know, at the end of the day, money

1695
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:36,839
Speaker 5: is the answer all of your questions.

1696
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Amazon's going to figure out a way

1697
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 3: to continue and grow and grow there. I also think

1698
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 3: it's curious Washington to Commanders get eight standalone windows. Also,

1699
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 3: they get a lot of windows. Jaden Daniels are superstar,

1700
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 3: but Warren Sharp and Sharp Analytics pointed out that last

1701
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 3: year was an outlier, maybe historically one of the luckiest

1702
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 3: seasons we've ever seen from a team. If Washington takes

1703
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 3: even a baby step back, book, that's going to be

1704
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 3: a lot of bad TV that we just got.

1705
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:04,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean, listen, I'd rather be new bad

1706
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 4: TV than the Jets bad TV, right, Like I've been

1707
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 4: force fed worst football in my life at this point

1708
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 4: in time than the at least the Washington Commanders are

1709
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 4: new and still a little bit different. Hey, listen, hey,

1710
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 4: and Buddy, you have to understand this better than most. Okay, like,

1711
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 4: at least if Washington collapses, that.

1712
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 5: Would be you know, Unfortunately for Washington, they.

1713
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 8: Have to games, So yeah, I don't wish it on

1714
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:30,679
Speaker 8: other people.

1715
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 5: Buddy, I have to watch Titans games, all right.

1716
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 3: Last night was a dream for New York, but it

1717
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 3: could become a nightmare for the NBA.

1718
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 2: We'll tell you why.

1719
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 5: Next.

1720
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 3: He's Buck Rising, Jason Fitz Fox Sports Radio.

1721
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,559
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1722
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 3: The party is still raging through the streets of Manhattan

1723
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:52,679
Speaker 3: as Knicks fans continue to rejoice from a huge series

1724
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 3: win over the Boston Celtics.

1725
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 2: But here's the thing.

1726
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 3: A dream scenario in New York could actually turn into

1727
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 3: a nightmare.

1728
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 2: Scenario for the.

1729
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 3: NBA, because now that we're this far in looking at

1730
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 3: the teams that are remaining, the league has got to

1731
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 3: be desperate for the Knicks to go to the NBA Finals.

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01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 2: He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz.

1733
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 3: We're hanging out with you on a Fox Sports Saturday,

1734
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 3: coming at your live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Buck,

1735
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 3: I just keep thinking about the teams that are left.

1736
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 3: We're about to get an Eastern Conference Final.

1737
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:25,799
Speaker 5: That is your final.

1738
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 2: You can tell I've I've covered too much NHL in

1739
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 2: my life.

1740
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:33,839
Speaker 3: It's the Eastern Conference Finals and it's your Indiana Pacers

1741
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 3: taking on the world's New York Knicks.

1742
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 2: I don't know how you feel about that, Like many.

1743
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 4: Are also my New York Knicks in any conversation with you,

1744
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 4: because you just because I said, did not laving them

1745
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:46,640
Speaker 4: because you picked the Celtics because you were so blasphemous

1746
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 4: in your analysis, So they are also my New York Knicks.

1747
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 5: Okay, well, say something nice about Shalla mag.

1748
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:53,679
Speaker 8: I was about to say that book.

1749
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:57,640
Speaker 2: Now I like Chala May's fashion. That's gonna be my

1750
01:19:57,680 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 2: go to.

1751
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 5: That said three different times by two different.

1752
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 3: Oh wait, wait, somebody tweeted me a picture of him

1753
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 3: cheesing for the jumbo tron.

1754
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:04,720
Speaker 2: I love that.

1755
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 3: I love a superstar cheesing for the jumber tron. Might

1756
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 3: see got something nice?

1757
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 2: Something nice?

1758
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 8: I mean he called him a superstar in the sent

1759
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 8: and so we'll allow it.

1760
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair, I mean, uh okay, And so on

1761
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 2: the other side.

1762
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 3: Tomorrow we get the most overused phrase in all of sports,

1763
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 3: which is the best thing in all of sports, a

1764
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 3: game seven, right, But we get Denver Oklahoma City tomorrow

1765
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 3: in a Game seven that will decide who's taking on Minnesota.

1766
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 3: So our final four teams here are, in no particular order,

1767
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 3: the New York Knicks.

1768
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 2: The massive market known is the New York.

1769
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:42,120
Speaker 3: Knicks, the phenomenon of ratings known as the New York Knicks,

1770
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 3: The Indiana Pacers, the Minnesota Timberwolves, and then either the

1771
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 3: Denver Nuggets, who nobody cares about. It's been proven every

1772
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 3: time they win, or the Oklahoma City thunder Man. That's

1773
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:57,839
Speaker 3: a nightmare, son Net right. Look, if we're being honest

1774
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 3: for a second book, the thought of Indiana versus either Denver,

1775
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 3: Oklahoma City or Minnesota is a nightmare for the league.

1776
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 2: When it comes to eyeballs and attention. Conversation had no.

1777
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:12,879
Speaker 5: It just it warms me on the inside.

1778
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:17,560
Speaker 4: Blue collar gold swagger baby, the sers they're coming for everything.

1779
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 4: But yes, to your point, it would be a league

1780
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 4: wide disaster. Now it's funny to hear this. I'm sure Mary,

1781
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:25,680
Speaker 4: any interpaying attention to this as well, the fact that

1782
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:29,679
Speaker 4: you were advocating for parody earlier in the show, early

1783
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 4: or earlier in these three hours, and now you are

1784
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 4: against parody. What it threatens the television the television numbers.

1785
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 4: And no, it's so much fun that the NBA has

1786
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 4: a you know, a run of seven different champions in

1787
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 4: the last seven seasons, and oh how great that is

1788
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 4: for the league, and the NBA is doing this better

1789
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 4: in the NFL.

1790
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:52,639
Speaker 5: And then all of a sudden we get a little

1791
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:53,640
Speaker 5: too close to Minnesota.

1792
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 8: You say, no, no, you've had a character arc over the

1793
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 8: course of the show. Fits.

1794
01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 5: Okay, that sounds about right.

1795
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 2: There's there's this is like a streaming show.

1796
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 3: You got to tune into every episode, okay, because there's

1797
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 3: evolution to character, everything changes a little bit.

1798
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 5: No, you're bouncing around segment to segment. I'm just trying

1799
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 5: to keep up thank you.

1800
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 3: I When I first got into radio, I remember I

1801
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 3: was sitting with a mutual friend of ours on one

1802
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 3: of my first shows, and I was talking about the

1803
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:21,799
Speaker 3: fact that everybody loves upsets in the NCUBAA tournament, everybody

1804
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 3: loves upsets, and he's like, nah, not once you get

1805
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 3: to the elite eight in the final four, they don't.

1806
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 2: And so I thought I was gonna be mister smarty pants.

1807
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:30,559
Speaker 3: And I looked up all the TV ratings I could

1808
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 3: find over a long period of time, and my god,

1809
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 3: what do you know?

1810
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 2: He was right. Everybody loves upsets in.

1811
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 3: The NCAA tournament in the first two rounds. But when

1812
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 3: small teams, when teams you've never heard of, make it

1813
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 3: to the actual championship game, nobody watches. So like the

1814
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:48,640
Speaker 3: year that we had Butler taken on Duke, which was

1815
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 3: a great game you might remember, like electric game, all

1816
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:53,639
Speaker 3: the way down to the wire.

1817
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 2: Nobody watched it because nobody cares.

1818
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 3: Right, But if you get a final, like ultimately, if

1819
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 3: the Lake Gods could make any situation they wanted in

1820
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:05,839
Speaker 3: the in the NCAA tournament, it would be upsets everywhere.

1821
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 3: And somehow a two seeded and three seeded duke in

1822
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:09,560
Speaker 3: North Carolina.

1823
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 2: Face off for the championship.

1824
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 3: This is the same like parody is cute until you

1825
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 3: get to the actual championship round when look, I understand

1826
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 3: that star power matter, so Anthony Edwards or Shade Gilgs Alexander,

1827
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 3: Like I understand that these are names. Jokich obviously, but

1828
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 3: like we also know that Jokich is how many times

1829
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 3: are you gonna win the damn MVP? Where we're going

1830
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:30,600
Speaker 3: to continue to have the conversation of the MVP of

1831
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 3: the league as somebody that like people just don't flock

1832
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 3: to watch, like at the end of the day, the

1833
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 3: Lakers and Celtics the next Like, there are certain teams

1834
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 3: that just get higher ratings. It's the reason that first

1835
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 3: take only talks about these teams because they get higher ratings. Like,

1836
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 3: at some point, if you are a sports league, you

1837
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 3: like higher ratings. I don't think it's a hot take

1838
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 3: to say that even in a parody filled NBA where

1839
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 3: there's a different champion every year, they would prefer for

1840
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:57,799
Speaker 3: that champion to be some bouncing rotation of major markets.

1841
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 4: Oh no, of course, nobody. Nobody would just that the

1842
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:03,640
Speaker 4: television networks. I'm sure in an honest moment, if you

1843
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 4: were to give them truth to serum would absolutely tell

1844
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 4: you that everybody is wearing Nick's gear and rooting for

1845
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 4: Jalen Brunson and hoping that New York burns it to

1846
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:14,719
Speaker 4: the ground afterwards, because that's the thing that's best for business,

1847
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 4: and at the end of the day, these people are

1848
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 4: running a business. The television ratings will never be higher

1849
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 4: than New York's run through the NBA playoffs, and it

1850
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 4: will be fascinating to see because again, the game, the

1851
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 4: series itself between the Pacers and the Knicks that that

1852
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 4: is upcoming in the Eastern Conference Finals is going to

1853
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 4: be fascinating because it will give New York the opportunity

1854
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 4: to prove that they are superior.

1855
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 5: You and many other people. It wasn't just you, though.

1856
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 4: We've been piling on you this evening for how loudly

1857
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 4: wrong you were on your Celtics' opinions.

1858
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 5: And that's fine.

1859
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 4: It happens to the best of us when you say

1860
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 4: so many things in front of a microphone. But the

1861
01:24:55,400 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 4: Celtics were the better basketball team. They did not play

1862
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:04,680
Speaker 4: the better series against an inferior opponent. New York has

1863
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 4: no problem being the underdog. They're not going to be

1864
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 4: doubted in this series. They are not going to be

1865
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 4: treated with the same level of well, nobody respects the Knicks.

1866
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 5: Oh look, how much better not nobody respects.

1867
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 4: The next But nobody is putting respect on the Knicks

1868
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 4: at this particular point in time, given the level of

1869
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 4: opposition that they were facing. Now it's the Pacers, and

1870
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 4: the Pacers are a quality basketball team, and the Cleveland Cavaliers,

1871
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 4: you know, I understand that they have they had injury

1872
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 4: situations that caused that series to look as lopsided as

1873
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 4: it was. I hesitate to call them choking dogs, because

1874
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 4: I don't think that's entirely fair. I think the injuries

1875
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 4: impacted that series arguably more than any other one in

1876
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 4: these NBA playoffs to date. But the Pacers are not

1877
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 4: an overwhelmingly special team, right It's a pleasant surprise that

1878
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 4: they find themselves in the Eastern Conference Finals.

1879
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:50,599
Speaker 5: Here.

1880
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:53,519
Speaker 4: New York is going to have the opportunity to prove

1881
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 4: once again that they belong. But it's going to be

1882
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 4: entirely a different dialogue, an entirely different narrative, and how

1883
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 4: they respond to that is going to be fascinating.

1884
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:02,720
Speaker 5: Television. But they have to get back, they have to

1885
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 5: get buy Indiana.

1886
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 2: They have to Okay, but here's the thing.

1887
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 3: I will continually eat crow, which I don't actually know

1888
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 3: if there's a right or wrong way to eat crow.

1889
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 3: Seems like it's probably not a very safe bird to eat.

1890
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 5: The right way is in a pie pop pie.

1891
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 3: Okay, pop pie is delicious, but why would you put

1892
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 3: crow in a pot pie? Like a chicken pot pie

1893
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 3: is very good. I love me a good old pop

1894
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:22,720
Speaker 3: pie like that.

1895
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:25,680
Speaker 4: It's like, it's like, what's the panthers wide receiver log

1896
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 4: at that eats that eats raccoon for a living, depending

1897
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:28,640
Speaker 4: on how you make it.

1898
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 5: You don't know.

1899
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:32,640
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, next time I'm in Nashville, you and me

1900
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:33,679
Speaker 3: are eating crow pop pie.

1901
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 2: All right. So here's the thing. I'll eat my crow.

1902
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 3: But I will also say that when you do this

1903
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:40,960
Speaker 3: for a living, the one thing that you have to

1904
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 3: be able to do is.

1905
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 2: Stand by your math. Like if you remember when we were.

1906
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 3: Kids, much longer for me than you, but when we

1907
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 3: were kids, I love your Indiana Pacers. References were all

1908
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:52,720
Speaker 3: like like I thought you were gonna go Reggie Miller. No,

1909
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 3: all right, So when we were kids and you sat

1910
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 3: down and you were in math class.

1911
01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 2: You couldn't just write the answer. You have to show

1912
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:00,719
Speaker 2: your work.

1913
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 3: And by showing your work, you explained how you got

1914
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 3: to where you were for an answer.

1915
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 2: I think that's the important part for any of us

1916
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:08,559
Speaker 2: in front of a microphone. You've got to be able

1917
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 2: to show you work.

1918
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 3: I stand by the concept that when we were hanging

1919
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 3: out after the first two games, I was not worried

1920
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 3: about the Celtics because the fact is they'd been up

1921
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 3: by twenty plus points in two straight games. I will

1922
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:23,680
Speaker 3: continue to die on the hill that if the Celtics

1923
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 3: don't melt down, none of this. I like the Celtics

1924
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 3: meltowns in the first two games while they had Tatum

1925
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 3: is the reason that they lost this entire series. They

1926
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:33,559
Speaker 3: never should have been in that situation in the first place.

1927
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 3: Throughout the course of the series, the number of the

1928
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:39,680
Speaker 3: times that the Celtics had large leads was really staggering

1929
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 3: to me for a.

1930
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:41,200
Speaker 2: Series that they lost.

1931
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 3: This is gonna sit in the minds of these Celtics

1932
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:46,720
Speaker 3: players in this organization forever. So I stand by the

1933
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 3: math on why I felt like the Knicks were going

1934
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 3: to be left for dead. This series against the Pacers

1935
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:53,599
Speaker 3: is very interesting because I feel like you're under selling

1936
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 3: Indiana a little bit. You're like, but there is at

1937
01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 3: least a couple of things to Indiana's depth. I mean,

1938
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 3: we know that Indiana can go eleven ten to eleven

1939
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 3: deep if they need to, Like they can work this

1940
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 3: thing in.

1941
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 5: So I that makes a basic playing the same five guys, right.

1942
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 3: The Knicks are gonna take their five and run them

1943
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 3: into the ground, right, So I think that Indiana has

1944
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 3: a better shot.

1945
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 2: Like this feels like a very even series to me.

1946
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 2: I don't.

1947
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 3: I don't look at this and say like this is

1948
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 3: a cakewalk. I also think that you're asking if you're

1949
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 3: the Knicks the key to everything continue to even last night,

1950
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 3: the Knicks kicked the snot out of the Celtics because

1951
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:32,719
Speaker 3: Karl Anthony Towns played like the best of Karl Anthony Towns.

1952
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:34,680
Speaker 3: And one thing we always try and figure out is

1953
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:37,800
Speaker 3: what's what's repeatable? Like what can we bank on being

1954
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 3: something every single night? I don't think you can bank

1955
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 3: on that version of Karl Anthony Towns night in and

1956
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 3: night out.

1957
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 2: Hell, if you could, then I'd be very.

1958
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 3: Comfortable right now saying huzza, the Knicks are headed to

1959
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 3: the NBA Finals.

1960
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 2: Let's see who they're playing. They're playing, it's gonna be

1961
01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 2: a hell of that. But like, what what huzza?

1962
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 5: Like you go to Renaissance Fair huzzah?

1963
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 2: Like huzza, huzza Like you know, I don't know.

1964
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 4: Like imagine walking down the streets of Connecticut or wherever

1965
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:04,559
Speaker 4: the hell and yelling at Hizza every time you see,

1966
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 4: you know, a new doughnut shop or something like that.

1967
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 3: You're gonna say hazzan. Next week and you're gonna be like,

1968
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 3: why did that pop into my brain? And then you

1969
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:11,639
Speaker 3: just text me and I'll say you're welcome.

1970
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 4: That's all of the things that I that I am

1971
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 4: going to say throughout the course of next week.

1972
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:16,879
Speaker 5: Haza.

1973
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 4: I can promise you is going to be I've said

1974
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 4: it more right now than I ever will for the

1975
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 4: rest of my life.

1976
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 3: Congratulations. Now you can also give the governor a hero.

1977
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:26,720
Speaker 3: That's a placing sounds reference for you. That's an old

1978
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 3: man movie. I'm just saying that there there. I certainly

1979
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 3: don't trust Karl Anthony Towns enough to be able to

1980
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 3: punch the ticket directly into the Finals. As much as

1981
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 3: that would look, the Knicks being in the NBA Finals

1982
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 3: is for what we do for for just one to

1983
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 3: talk about basketball every single night. The Knicks being in

1984
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:47,639
Speaker 3: the NBA Finals is by far the best outcome.

1985
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 2: I just don't know how confident I am on that

1986
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:49,680
Speaker 2: right now.

1987
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:51,479
Speaker 4: And it's but it's not about Cat. To me, they

1988
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:54,639
Speaker 4: have the finisher. It's it's not Karl Anthony Towns. It's Bronson.

1989
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:58,559
Speaker 4: And I know Kat was the story of the final

1990
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 4: game between the Knicks and the Celtics, and that's great

1991
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:04,000
Speaker 4: that they have the opportunity to go to a player

1992
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:06,120
Speaker 4: like that, or that that player has that level of

1993
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 4: talent ceiling that he can elevate them at any given moment.

1994
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 4: But the thing that has gotten them to this point

1995
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:13,679
Speaker 4: is Jelen Brunson. It's not Karl Anthony Towns. Karl Anthony

1996
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 4: Towns is a very very nice secondary piece to have,

1997
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:18,800
Speaker 4: and I love that he's not the focal point here

1998
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 4: because it gives him the ability to have one of

1999
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:23,960
Speaker 4: those games and just say what a great game from Kat,

2000
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:26,479
Speaker 4: and move on and not expect him to have another one,

2001
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:28,760
Speaker 4: even though you absolutely need him to have another one.

2002
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:30,240
Speaker 5: If you're to make the NBA finals.

2003
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:31,840
Speaker 2: I just don't I believe.

2004
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 3: I appreciate it, and I respect and agree with you

2005
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:39,600
Speaker 3: on everything. Pro Brunson, like, I'm wildly Look, let's have

2006
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 3: that march in the streets for how great he is.

2007
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:44,360
Speaker 3: Let's let's go parade through it. It's spectacular.

2008
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 4: I don't know he's reversing COURSEI and he was all

2009
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 4: over the next firm para parading through the streets in

2010
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:51,560
Speaker 4: New York after beating the Celtics.

2011
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, I don't know that one player can

2012
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:56,800
Speaker 3: get you through the Eastern Conference final.

2013
01:30:56,920 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 2: That's all.

2014
01:30:57,240 --> 01:30:59,439
Speaker 3: Like somebody else has to step up. That's all I'm saying.

2015
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 3: Somebody else has to step up. And then when somebody

2016
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:04,719
Speaker 3: else steps up, then Knicks fans still need to relax

2017
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 3: and not celebrate like they've won the championship until they've

2018
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:11,880
Speaker 3: actually won the championship, buck until they've actually finished the deal,

2019
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:13,120
Speaker 3: and raise a banner.

2020
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:15,519
Speaker 2: You don't party. Okay. Look, I got a lot to

2021
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 2: say about.

2022
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:19,600
Speaker 3: The over partying. It's happening right now. We'll continue to

2023
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:22,360
Speaker 3: break it down. Plus, the huge news of the WNBA

2024
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 3: today that has everybody shaking. Will tell you I know,

2025
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:27,440
Speaker 3: I can't believe it. Through all of this, the WMAA

2026
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 3: is making news. Because the stars are making news. We'll

2027
01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 3: tell you about it. Next to these, Buck Rising, I'm

2028
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:33,519
Speaker 3: Jason fitz hanging out with you on Fox Sports Radio.

2029
01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:38,719
Speaker 2: What would be in the Buck Rising red solo cupies?

2030
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:41,960
Speaker 3: Buck Rising, I'm Jason Fitz bucking fits Fox Sports Radio

2031
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 3: on Saturday. You look at me like I should know this,

2032
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 3: but I don't know, Like it just seems like for

2033
01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:50,680
Speaker 3: you at a concert, Like here's what I'm just guessing here.

2034
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:53,680
Speaker 3: We'll get to actual sports in a second. I'm just

2035
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:55,960
Speaker 3: guessing that when Buck Rising walks into the green room.

2036
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:57,639
Speaker 3: And for anyone that doesn't know, I spent a lot

2037
01:31:57,680 --> 01:32:00,800
Speaker 3: of my life touring as a musician, right, so I

2038
01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:04,240
Speaker 3: was always on big tours. And you know, when you

2039
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:06,320
Speaker 3: when you start to make it in that business and

2040
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:08,639
Speaker 3: you start to tour arenas, one thing that you always

2041
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:10,160
Speaker 3: have is like a radio room is what they call it.

2042
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 3: And the radio room is where there's a setup of

2043
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:14,679
Speaker 3: different liquors that are there for you and like, look,

2044
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 3: the band of the artist is paying out of their

2045
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:19,479
Speaker 3: pocket to make sure that there is alcohol there so

2046
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:21,840
Speaker 3: that when the radio people come by, they all get

2047
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 3: drinks and they have a great time. You want to

2048
01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 3: make sure that they were wind and dying so that

2049
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:27,559
Speaker 3: they play your song more like it's a whole process and.

2050
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 2: Like they stay inside stage.

2051
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:31,639
Speaker 3: So in my mind, when Buck Rising shows up at

2052
01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 3: the Sticks concert and he walks into the radio room,

2053
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:37,439
Speaker 3: I don't think Buck cares what type of liquor it is.

2054
01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:40,120
Speaker 3: I think Buck looks and says, which is the most

2055
01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 3: expensive bottle here? That's what's free for me. I'm going

2056
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:46,880
Speaker 3: to drink that with a splash of soda and a

2057
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:48,880
Speaker 3: line like that's what It doesn't matter tequila. But it

2058
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:50,760
Speaker 3: doesn't matter if it's clear or if it's brown. I

2059
01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 3: think you just immediately go for that is the that

2060
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:54,880
Speaker 3: is the highest price.

2061
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:58,840
Speaker 4: You know, this is the one time where you would

2062
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:02,519
Speaker 4: be wrong about my elitism because I am gonna I

2063
01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:06,160
Speaker 4: don't do brown liquor anymore. It's just it's I haven't

2064
01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:09,919
Speaker 4: you lost the fight? I lost the fight after college.

2065
01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:13,760
Speaker 4: I like if I smell a whiskey coke at this

2066
01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:18,240
Speaker 4: point in my life, it gives me the goosebumps.

2067
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:19,479
Speaker 5: I can't I can't do it.

2068
01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:22,760
Speaker 4: And you know, I'm sure if I was drinking better

2069
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:25,680
Speaker 4: quality whiskey in college at the volume that I was

2070
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 4: drinking whiskey in college, then maybe I.

2071
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 5: Would not have that reaction.

2072
01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:33,439
Speaker 4: No, FITZI, it is simply top shelf tequila I've got

2073
01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:33,680
Speaker 4: to have.

2074
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:35,920
Speaker 5: So here's my elitism part.

2075
01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:40,679
Speaker 4: You know these poppy or ollipop prebiotic sos, I've got

2076
01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 4: to have those in the room as well, preferably the

2077
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 4: orange kind, because that's gonna be my mixer. I'm gonna

2078
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:48,120
Speaker 4: have an orange slice with my tequila because I don't

2079
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 4: do lime anymore. I think lime is a little basic

2080
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:53,840
Speaker 4: and whatever the highest. So that you are correct about

2081
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:56,920
Speaker 4: the most expensive bottle of tequila in the room, I

2082
01:33:56,960 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 4: will not discriminate between and Yeho or Reposado Blanco as

2083
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 4: long as it's good and as expensive as somebody else

2084
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:03,599
Speaker 4: is playing for it.

2085
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:06,920
Speaker 3: I went to a tequila tasting once that was blew

2086
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 3: my mind with a bunch of things like I will

2087
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:11,639
Speaker 3: tell you so what is now Category ten but used

2088
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 3: to be the Wildhorse Saloon in Nashville.

2089
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:15,040
Speaker 2: For anyone that's ever been there, it's a huge Luke

2090
01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:16,720
Speaker 2: Combsbond bar.

2091
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:19,080
Speaker 3: But it has a huge stage in the first like

2092
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:20,680
Speaker 3: band that I was in that never really made it,

2093
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:23,519
Speaker 3: but we toured a lot and tried. We played there

2094
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:25,519
Speaker 3: a bunch when it was The Wild Horse, and it

2095
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:27,960
Speaker 3: was funny because they used to have these forty ounce

2096
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:31,160
Speaker 3: red coke glasses, so like they would fill the coat,

2097
01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:32,400
Speaker 3: like the huge red coat.

2098
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 2: Glasses at that time.

2099
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:36,719
Speaker 3: I used to fill like ice, and then I would

2100
01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:38,960
Speaker 3: fill the glass all the way the top with Jack,

2101
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:40,840
Speaker 3: and then I would put a splash.

2102
01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:42,240
Speaker 2: Of diet in so it was all Jack.

2103
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:43,760
Speaker 3: And so I was drinking a bottle of Jack and

2104
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:45,679
Speaker 3: Knight over the course of you know, two or three

2105
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:48,799
Speaker 3: hours of sets, like just really hammered every.

2106
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:49,719
Speaker 2: Single night of my life.

2107
01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:52,519
Speaker 4: By the way, before, we're working through some trauma again.

2108
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:55,200
Speaker 4: We worked through some childhood trauma and we're doing it again.

2109
01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:58,880
Speaker 3: Betever, anyone that before you tweet me, I, I haven't

2110
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 3: had to drink it a long time. You know, everything's

2111
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 3: fine for me now, but it's amazing like that. Jack

2112
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:05,439
Speaker 3: is one of the few things like now I'll have

2113
01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:07,439
Speaker 3: a drink ever, you know, maybe once a year I

2114
01:35:07,479 --> 01:35:10,400
Speaker 3: have a drink just out of fun. But if somebody

2115
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:12,040
Speaker 3: puts Jack in front of me, it's still to this

2116
01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:15,840
Speaker 3: day's like no Mickey never made me sick. It's just

2117
01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:17,920
Speaker 3: when you're drinking a bottle of it tonight. You know,

2118
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:19,640
Speaker 3: a buddy of mine used to always say, He's like,

2119
01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:22,479
Speaker 3: I don't I only drink when I gig. It's just,

2120
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:24,679
Speaker 3: you know, the thing is, I've had a busy few years.

2121
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:28,800
Speaker 3: That was my life. So Jack Daniels is the one

2122
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:30,840
Speaker 3: thing that's just out for me. I you know, I

2123
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:32,680
Speaker 3: used to love it and now I just can't. I

2124
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:33,800
Speaker 3: can't handle it well.

2125
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:36,719
Speaker 4: The brown liquor will will bring people to blows from

2126
01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:39,200
Speaker 4: time to time. And I don't think there was brown

2127
01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:43,559
Speaker 4: liquor involved in the WNBA debut earlier. This evening fits yah?

2128
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:47,000
Speaker 4: How about that? Or radio teas? How about that? Caitlyn Clark,

2129
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:50,960
Speaker 4: Angel Race, We're back in the WNBA is better than

2130
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:53,360
Speaker 4: ever now. It was not a good game tonight between

2131
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:56,920
Speaker 4: the Chicago Sky and the Indiana Fever ninety three to

2132
01:35:56,960 --> 01:36:00,600
Speaker 4: fifty eight in favor of Caitlin Clark and Fever. She

2133
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:04,800
Speaker 4: gets a triple double in her team's season debut. Does

2134
01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:09,479
Speaker 4: Caitlyn Clark? She also exchanged angry words with Angel Reese

2135
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:12,439
Speaker 4: after she committed a flagrant foul. Did Kitlyn Clark? On

2136
01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:16,160
Speaker 4: Angel Reese. Reese had to be held back after the fact.

2137
01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:19,240
Speaker 4: The images of it make it look more nefarious In

2138
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:22,439
Speaker 4: favor of Clark, the video does not look as bad,

2139
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:23,120
Speaker 4: and I.

2140
01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:24,520
Speaker 5: Understood the argument.

2141
01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:26,720
Speaker 4: That she was making for the officials as to why

2142
01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:29,280
Speaker 4: they elevated it to a flagrant foul. But as we

2143
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:31,960
Speaker 4: talked about to open the show, Fitsie, if you had

2144
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:36,760
Speaker 4: to have a blowout between two notable players on two

2145
01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:39,679
Speaker 4: teams who are trying to find their way in this

2146
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:42,200
Speaker 4: new version of the WNBA, you might as well have

2147
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:44,320
Speaker 4: some fireworks and jazz hands with it. And that's what

2148
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:44,960
Speaker 4: we got tonight.

2149
01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:47,559
Speaker 3: I mean, the marquee match of the day was really

2150
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:49,720
Speaker 3: supposed to be the Liberty versus the Aces. You get

2151
01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:52,960
Speaker 3: your defending champion versus the two time champion before them,

2152
01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:56,400
Speaker 3: and that game was also not particularly close, and so

2153
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 3: there was a chance that we hit the first big

2154
01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 3: Saturday of the w NBA season with not much compelling

2155
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:06,000
Speaker 3: basketball to talk about. Instead, we get sort of the

2156
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:09,439
Speaker 3: two you know in in Give a Damn. When I

2157
01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:11,840
Speaker 3: say the two biggest stars, I mean I'm not talking

2158
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 3: about Asia or any of the there are a million

2159
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:16,320
Speaker 3: stars in the w right now, but when you talk

2160
01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:19,320
Speaker 3: about oh, I immediately want to watch it's conflict. And

2161
01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:21,960
Speaker 3: that's why I use the eighties wrestling comparison a lot.

2162
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:24,400
Speaker 3: But one thing that they always said is that for

2163
01:37:24,439 --> 01:37:26,920
Speaker 3: hal Cogan to become hal Cogan, there had to be

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Speaker 3: an iron chic. There had to be like the person

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Speaker 3: that he was going against it first to get him over.

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Speaker 3: As what they call it wrestling, right, So you have

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01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:35,639
Speaker 3: all of these moments where if you're gonna have, you know,

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Speaker 3: to have the best of the rock comes out. When

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01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:39,680
Speaker 3: you have the best of Johnsena, there's these examples, the

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Speaker 3: best of Brett Hart, when you have Sean Michaels. So

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Speaker 3: for years in wrestling, it feels like that's what's happening

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01:37:44,280 --> 01:37:47,000
Speaker 3: right now in the w It's not that like Angel Reese,

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01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:49,400
Speaker 3: to be very clear, is not the same level of

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Speaker 3: star on the court that somebody like Asia Wilson is.

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Speaker 2: It's not even close.

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Speaker 3: But when Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark are on the

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Speaker 3: court at the same time, people give a damn.

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Speaker 2: And that's just and.

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Speaker 3: That's an electric part of how the w is going

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Speaker 3: to continue to market itself this year.

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Speaker 2: It's an electric part of how we're going to.

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Speaker 3: Pay attention like it doesn't really matter. Indiana, by the way,

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01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:10,760
Speaker 3: has made some aggressive moves this offseason, and they're going

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Speaker 3: to be a very good team. There is no doubt

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Speaker 3: about that. But Indiana's going to be very good. It's

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Speaker 3: not really about that, like it's about the conversation. Every

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01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:21,160
Speaker 3: time these two ladies are on the court, it is

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Speaker 3: a battle.

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01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:24,360
Speaker 2: It is physical. They're going to get in each other's faces.

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Speaker 2: There's going to be some sort.

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Speaker 3: Of a melee and frankly, it's great for the sport,

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01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:29,680
Speaker 3: it's great for the entertainment, it's great for what we do.

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Speaker 5: No I and as we talked about this a little.

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01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:34,720
Speaker 4: Bit earlier, but if you're just now joining us, and

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01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 4: by the way, you can check out the podcast after

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Speaker 4: the fact. You can look up the podcast on Fox

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Speaker 4: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 5: It's very very simple.

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Speaker 4: You can get all the great Fox Sports Radio shows

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Speaker 4: right there in your podcast feed.

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Speaker 5: Make sure you.

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Speaker 4: Subscribe and follow along throughout the course again Fox Sports

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01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:53,680
Speaker 4: Radio to catch up on all of the things that

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01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:55,720
Speaker 4: we talked about throughout the course of this evening and

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01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:59,120
Speaker 4: all the other shows that will come before and after

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Speaker 4: us as well.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 4: The thing that we did touch on earlier though, is

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Speaker 4: that you get to it. It's like a choose your

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01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:09,680
Speaker 4: own adventure specific to the rivalry that these two have, right,

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01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:12,679
Speaker 4: because it goes back to their collegiate careers in which

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01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:14,960
Speaker 4: Angel Reese frankly got the better of Caitlin Clark in

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01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:17,920
Speaker 4: a lot of these situations, and now it's carried over

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01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:20,720
Speaker 4: to the professional ranks where it has continued to be

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01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:24,160
Speaker 4: compelling because not only are they great athletes, but they

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01:39:24,200 --> 01:39:27,040
Speaker 4: are compelling personalities as well, and they will take the

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01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:29,800
Speaker 4: on the court stuff, or at least Reese will take

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01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:31,760
Speaker 4: it take it off the court as well, and that

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01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:34,120
Speaker 4: will continue to trickle out into the press conference and

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01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:37,080
Speaker 4: podcasts and things like that that the athletes are also

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01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:39,439
Speaker 4: involved in now in the modern day too. But the

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01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:41,920
Speaker 4: point is you can choose your own adventurers to which

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01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:44,519
Speaker 4: side you're on, because they can both be hero and

2224
01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:47,639
Speaker 4: villain depending on who you're talking to, and that makes

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01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:50,880
Speaker 4: it even that much more compelling when there's disagreement about

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01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:53,840
Speaker 4: whether they're even likable or dislikable.

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01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:57,120
Speaker 5: Dislikable, unlikable. I think it's unlikable, well.

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01:39:57,240 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 2: Unlikable for it.

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01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:08,200
Speaker 3: All right, You choose your own adventure, speaking to choose

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01:40:08,240 --> 01:40:10,960
Speaker 3: your own adventure. One of the biggest new stars in

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01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:13,559
Speaker 3: the NFL tried to choose his own adventure and it

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01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:15,320
Speaker 3: could have been an epic disaster.

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01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:18,200
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams and the Bears. We'll tell you about it,

2234
01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:19,960
Speaker 2: but first, Steve Disager's got to get you caught up

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01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:21,519
Speaker 2: on what's going on in the world. Right now.

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01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:24,040
Speaker 7: We've got a Game six of the NHL Playoffs in

2237
01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:26,479
Speaker 7: a second round series at Dallas right now, and it's

2238
01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:28,679
Speaker 7: tied with eight and a half minutes to go. Stars

2239
01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:31,519
Speaker 7: won to one with Winnipeg. Dallas is leading this best

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Speaker 7: of seven three games to two. The Jets goalie Connor

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01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:37,719
Speaker 7: Hellibuk on the road this postseason is zero to five.

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01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:40,160
Speaker 7: There is a Game seven on Sunday night with Florida

2243
01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:43,919
Speaker 7: at Toronto. Alex Ovechkin will return to play for Washington

2244
01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:46,920
Speaker 7: next season. It'll be the final year of his current contract.

2245
01:40:47,120 --> 01:40:50,599
Speaker 7: He turns forty in September. The NBA Second Round ends

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01:40:50,640 --> 01:40:53,640
Speaker 7: on Sunday. Denvers Aaron Gordon questionable for the game at

2247
01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:56,840
Speaker 7: Oklahoma City with a strain hamstring. That'll be a Game seven,

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01:40:56,920 --> 01:41:00,000
Speaker 7: with the winner hosting Minnesota to start the NBA's way

2249
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:03,879
Speaker 7: Eastern Conference Finals on Tuesday. The East Finals start Wednesday

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Speaker 7: with Indiana at New York in a WNBA season opener.

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Speaker 7: Indiana all over Chicago ninety three fifty eight. Caitlin Clark,

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Speaker 7: a triple double journalism the favorite, won the Preakness, coming

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01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:17,280
Speaker 7: from behind late he'd finished second in the derby in

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01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:20,799
Speaker 7: the rain Kentucky Derby winner Sovereignty did not run today,

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Speaker 7: fifth time in seven years with no Triple Crown at

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Speaker 7: stake in the Preakness. This was the one hundred and

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Speaker 7: fiftieth Preakness Stakes, by the way. Scottie Schaeffler leads the

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01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:32,840
Speaker 7: PGA Championship in Charlotte by three strokes after a third

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01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:36,479
Speaker 7: round sixty five. Alex Norin is in second place. Sergio

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01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:39,559
Speaker 7: Garcias shot seventy nine. He's last among those who made

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01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:42,400
Speaker 7: the cut. In Major League Soccer, Toronto six to one

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01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:45,439
Speaker 7: over Montreal, and the UFL, Michigan is six and two

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01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:49,240
Speaker 7: after winning at Houston to Major League Baseball. The Rockies

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01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:51,680
Speaker 7: have a road record of two and twenty one, but

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01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:55,760
Speaker 7: they've come close. Tonight at Arizona, it's eleven ten Diamondbacks

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01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:56,559
Speaker 7: over the Rockies.

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01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:57,719
Speaker 5: In the top of the seventh.

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01:41:58,040 --> 01:42:02,200
Speaker 7: Three other leg games all involved NL West teams as well.

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01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:05,320
Speaker 7: Mariners leading at San Diego to to one in the

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01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:07,960
Speaker 7: top of the seventh. Giants are hosting the A's. That

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01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:10,519
Speaker 7: game is scoreless bottom of the sixth, and it's only

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01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:13,400
Speaker 7: bottom of the fourth at Dodger Stadium, Angels holding on

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01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:16,760
Speaker 7: five to four over LA. Earlier today, the Mets, with

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01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:18,400
Speaker 7: a run in the top of the ninth, beat the

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01:42:18,479 --> 01:42:21,599
Speaker 7: Yankees three to two, the save to Edwin Diaz. Toronto

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01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:23,080
Speaker 7: with a run in the eighth and a run at

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01:42:23,080 --> 01:42:25,400
Speaker 7: the bottom of the ninth edge Detroit two to one.

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01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:28,679
Speaker 7: Washington was a ten to six winner at Baltimore after

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01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:32,080
Speaker 7: the Orioles fired manager Brandon Hide. The team's record now

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01:42:32,120 --> 01:42:34,599
Speaker 7: fifteen to twenty nine. They've lost five in a row.

2281
01:42:34,840 --> 01:42:38,000
Speaker 7: Kansas City's lost five straight after dropping a one nothing

2282
01:42:38,040 --> 01:42:41,000
Speaker 7: decision at home to Saint Louis this evening, Cards won

2283
01:42:41,040 --> 01:42:43,559
Speaker 7: on a sixth inning home run. Cards only had two

2284
01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:46,840
Speaker 7: hits in the whole game. Minnesota won its thirteenth straight

2285
01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:50,639
Speaker 7: contest seven nothing at Milwaukee and Boston on Fox TV.

2286
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:53,200
Speaker 7: Came back to beat Atlantis seven to six, ending a

2287
01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:55,880
Speaker 7: four game losing streak. Red Sox won it on a

2288
01:42:55,880 --> 01:42:58,960
Speaker 7: solo homer bottom of the ninth by Rafael Devers. The

2289
01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:01,639
Speaker 7: Red Sox had trailed six' two in the seventh. Inning

2290
01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 7: back to, you.

2291
01:43:03,680 --> 01:43:04,040
Speaker 2: He's Buck.

2292
01:43:04,120 --> 01:43:07,200
Speaker 3: Rising I'm Jason, fitzberg hanging out with you On Fox Sports.

2293
01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:10,280
Speaker 3: Radio coming into life from The Fox Sports radio. Studios,

2294
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:13,120
Speaker 3: Buck some big news came out this week From Seth

2295
01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:15,280
Speaker 3: wickersham And Seth i've Known seth.

2296
01:43:15,120 --> 01:43:15,479
Speaker 2: For a long.

2297
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:19,000
Speaker 3: Time there are a few reporters in this business that

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01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:21,760
Speaker 3: when they report, IT i know it is so incredibly

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01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:25,000
Speaker 3: sourced THAT i immediately, Say, Okay LIKE i, know there are

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01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:28,360
Speaker 3: certain guys THAT i trust beyond any doubt that they

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01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:31,920
Speaker 3: would not put something out there unless it was absolutely

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01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:32,800
Speaker 3: something that they were.

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01:43:32,760 --> 01:43:33,519
Speaker 2: A thousand percent.

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01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:36,559
Speaker 3: Sure so When Seth wickersham comes out as part of

2305
01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:42,400
Speaker 3: his reporting with the, story the References Caleb williams and

2306
01:43:42,520 --> 01:43:46,960
Speaker 3: his family realistically looking if they had legal options that

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01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:50,639
Speaker 3: would allow them to avoid being drafted by The Chicago,

2308
01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:54,360
Speaker 3: bears something that you. Know the plenty of quotes revolving

2309
01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:57,960
Speaker 3: Around seth's, dad, Sorry seth, dad Around caleb's dad saying

2310
01:43:58,000 --> 01:44:00,679
Speaker 3: basically that they want to put him in the best position. Possible,

2311
01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:04,760
Speaker 3: man that's. Stunning and it's stunning not because he looked into.

2312
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:07,280
Speaker 3: It it's stunning because he got out. There it's stunning

2313
01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:10,960
Speaker 3: because now what you have Is caleb, being you, know

2314
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:13,800
Speaker 3: pretty open and. Honest were people Around caleb being pretty

2315
01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:15,679
Speaker 3: open and honest about the fact that he wasn't comfortable

2316
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:20,160
Speaker 3: with The. Bears The bears having a less than desirable

2317
01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:23,680
Speaker 3: first season With, caleb they fire, everybody and now you've

2318
01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:26,400
Speaker 3: got this moment where you've planted the seed just by

2319
01:44:26,439 --> 01:44:29,439
Speaker 3: this becoming public That bears fans and you, know this

2320
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:32,040
Speaker 3: covering a fan base right Like bears fans the minute

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01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:34,920
Speaker 3: things are a struggle For caleb, like they are going

2322
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:38,160
Speaker 3: to immediately clap. Back they are going to bark back

2323
01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:41,000
Speaker 3: at this point And, caleb because now it's become clear

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01:44:41,439 --> 01:44:43,519
Speaker 3: That caleb didn't trust that The bears weren't going to

2325
01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:45,639
Speaker 3: screw it up from day. One that's a tough thing

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01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:49,040
Speaker 3: to have to get out from under for a, player for.

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01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:49,880
Speaker 5: Sure and.

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01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:55,840
Speaker 4: Anytime information like this gets, out the initial reaction for me,

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01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:59,679
Speaker 4: is all, right who benefits from having this out? There

2330
01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:04,400
Speaker 4: and for, me that's a really tough answer to. Discern

2331
01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:07,639
Speaker 4: in this particular situation because it's not a good look

2332
01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:09,920
Speaker 4: for The bears that the number one overall draft, pick

2333
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:13,559
Speaker 4: the consensus number one overall draft, pick was actively going

2334
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:16,639
Speaker 4: to avoid, them in, fact exploring all manner of, options

2335
01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:20,240
Speaker 4: including consulting With Archie manning about how they were able

2336
01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:23,240
Speaker 4: to Get eli out of The chargers situation where he

2337
01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:27,320
Speaker 4: ended up being drafted by The New York, giants exploring legal.

2338
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:28,360
Speaker 5: Possibilities to see if they.

2339
01:45:28,240 --> 01:45:32,360
Speaker 4: Could circumvent THE, cba and all going so far fitzi

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01:45:32,479 --> 01:45:35,479
Speaker 4: as to see If Caleb williams wouldn't make more sense

2341
01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:40,240
Speaker 4: as A ufl player to then get to pick HIS

2342
01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:43,679
Speaker 4: nfl team in twenty twenty five after spending a year

2343
01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:46,439
Speaker 4: out of The National Football league or away from The

2344
01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:50,240
Speaker 4: National Football league to circumvent the draft. Process it's a

2345
01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:57,559
Speaker 4: fascinating look into the exploration of leverage from a family

2346
01:45:57,960 --> 01:46:02,439
Speaker 4: who was genuinely concerned about their son being able to

2347
01:46:02,479 --> 01:46:05,920
Speaker 4: succeed at the highest. Level because we know this ABOUT nfl,

2348
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:09,640
Speaker 4: organizations it's never been more out there and open and.

2349
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:12,320
Speaker 4: Honest as a part of the dialogue around the quarterback,

2350
01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:15,800
Speaker 4: position the league is churning and burning these dudes.

2351
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:17,920
Speaker 5: At a higher rate than we ever have.

2352
01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:21,080
Speaker 4: Before kevin O'Connell with one of the most salient Points

2353
01:46:21,439 --> 01:46:24,519
Speaker 4: i've ever heard AN nfl head coach make on, this

2354
01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:27,000
Speaker 4: AND i believe it was on The Rich Issend show last.

2355
01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:31,320
Speaker 4: Year heading into last, season he said that AT nfl

2356
01:46:31,400 --> 01:46:36,400
Speaker 4: organizations fail players far more often than players quote unquote

2357
01:46:36,479 --> 01:46:40,040
Speaker 4: bust because you have no idea the amount of different

2358
01:46:40,040 --> 01:46:42,880
Speaker 4: things that can go wrong just based on the geography

2359
01:46:43,400 --> 01:46:45,599
Speaker 4: of where you land in THE nfl. Draft but to your,

2360
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:48,360
Speaker 4: point now that it's out there and you've got people

2361
01:46:48,400 --> 01:46:51,599
Speaker 4: like Boomeris, iasin for, example who have basically taught who

2362
01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:54,479
Speaker 4: literally said shut your pie. Hole and, again the average

2363
01:46:54,479 --> 01:46:56,640
Speaker 4: age of the person using the word pie, HOLE i,

2364
01:46:56,680 --> 01:46:58,519
Speaker 4: assume is also the same as the average age of

2365
01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:00,679
Speaker 4: the person using hazah on a regular.

2366
01:47:00,680 --> 01:47:01,599
Speaker 5: Basis but we don't have.

2367
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:03,960
Speaker 2: To do alot a guy Named boomer to, say pylele go.

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01:47:03,960 --> 01:47:07,160
Speaker 5: Ahead he is the Most Boomer boomer, Ever like.

2369
01:47:08,720 --> 01:47:12,040
Speaker 4: Nobody has more embodied that word Than boomer As sizin.

2370
01:47:12,160 --> 01:47:15,639
Speaker 4: Respectfully but AND i Understand boomer's point is a former

2371
01:47:15,680 --> 01:47:18,840
Speaker 4: player who comes from a different generation and is looking

2372
01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:23,439
Speaker 4: at this as a level of entitlement and saying why are,

2373
01:47:23,479 --> 01:47:26,080
Speaker 4: you as you like to use on a regular, basis

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01:47:26,120 --> 01:47:29,759
Speaker 4: what makes you? Special Caleb williams that all of us

2375
01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:32,280
Speaker 4: had to go through the exact same, process or a

2376
01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:36,520
Speaker 4: very similar, process and just had to overcome the circumstances

2377
01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:39,479
Speaker 4: and did so if you were good enough to actually

2378
01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:41,960
Speaker 4: overcome the, circumstances which is not something that we know

2379
01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:44,719
Speaker 4: About Caleb. Williams by the, way he had a very

2380
01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:47,680
Speaker 4: difficult first. Year there are reasons that that year was

2381
01:47:47,680 --> 01:47:50,960
Speaker 4: made more difficult on him than it probably should have.

2382
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:53,880
Speaker 4: Been but he has plenty of expectations to live up,

2383
01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:58,240
Speaker 4: to unto, himself and now the microscope is going to

2384
01:47:58,320 --> 01:48:00,880
Speaker 4: be squarely on him as if it wasn't, before because

2385
01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:04,400
Speaker 4: they've Hired Ben johnson to quarterback guru the best version

2386
01:48:04,439 --> 01:48:09,040
Speaker 4: Of Caleb williams humanly. Possible but the, second the second

2387
01:48:09,120 --> 01:48:13,040
Speaker 4: that he looks like less than they, expect they're going

2388
01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:14,240
Speaker 4: to jump on this kid's.

2389
01:48:14,280 --> 01:48:15,919
Speaker 5: Neck and that is a tough.

2390
01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:19,120
Speaker 4: Dynamic to have between a fan base that has, been

2391
01:48:19,320 --> 01:48:23,200
Speaker 4: As Caleb williams father described, it the place where quarterbacks

2392
01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:26,600
Speaker 4: quote go to, die and a young quarterback who's just

2393
01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:28,120
Speaker 4: trying to make it in the, league and to his,

2394
01:48:28,200 --> 01:48:31,320
Speaker 4: credit you, know by the time he had THE i

2395
01:48:31,320 --> 01:48:34,639
Speaker 4: think that the final visit With, chicago he turned around

2396
01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:36,479
Speaker 4: and he told his family in his, camp, YEAH i

2397
01:48:36,520 --> 01:48:37,000
Speaker 4: can make this.

2398
01:48:37,120 --> 01:48:38,720
Speaker 5: WORK i can do this In.

2399
01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:42,120
Speaker 4: Chicago whether or not he does remains to be, seen

2400
01:48:42,160 --> 01:48:44,400
Speaker 4: but it's a very difficult dynamic to have.

2401
01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:46,519
Speaker 5: Come out before a pivotal season for.

2402
01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:49,400
Speaker 3: Him the pivotal season is a huge part of this

2403
01:48:49,479 --> 01:48:52,960
Speaker 3: because right Now bears FANS i think have fallen even.

2404
01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:55,280
Speaker 3: More look the fact that his dad's open about they

2405
01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:57,519
Speaker 3: were looking at other, options but that, no he came

2406
01:48:57,560 --> 01:49:00,479
Speaker 3: To chicago and they have an Easy scapegoatright, now it's

2407
01:49:00,520 --> 01:49:03,320
Speaker 3: easy to look at it and, Say Ibra flu's offensive.

2408
01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:06,720
Speaker 3: Coordinator everything about that was just a dumpster fire from the,

2409
01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:09,599
Speaker 3: outset which by the, way most of us predicted a

2410
01:49:09,640 --> 01:49:11,280
Speaker 3: long time, Ago like you knew that was going to

2411
01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:11,759
Speaker 3: be a dumpster.

2412
01:49:11,800 --> 01:49:12,519
Speaker 5: Fire so right.

2413
01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:15,479
Speaker 3: Now it's easy to, say, hey, Look ibraflus was a.

2414
01:49:15,479 --> 01:49:18,479
Speaker 3: Problem the offense was a. Problem, caleb he came To

2415
01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:21,120
Speaker 3: chicago despite what his family was having. Him look at

2416
01:49:21,160 --> 01:49:24,439
Speaker 3: like he becomes a hero in this moment as long

2417
01:49:24,479 --> 01:49:25,400
Speaker 3: as it works With Ben.

2418
01:49:25,479 --> 01:49:29,000
Speaker 2: Johnson if he is not good this, year if there.

2419
01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:32,799
Speaker 3: Is not a continual growth in some of the areas

2420
01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:34,840
Speaker 3: that he needs a little, help and like if he's

2421
01:49:34,880 --> 01:49:37,040
Speaker 3: not taking a step, forward like all of this conversation

2422
01:49:37,080 --> 01:49:40,879
Speaker 3: about how he was watching tape and, again prominent quarterbacks

2423
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:43,080
Speaker 3: have differed on social media on what's right and what's.

2424
01:49:43,120 --> 01:49:47,040
Speaker 2: WRONG i can't speak to, it but at least.

2425
01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:49,840
Speaker 3: This conversation right now is all providing more benefit of

2426
01:49:49,880 --> 01:49:53,160
Speaker 3: the doubt For caleb as long As caleb, succeeds and

2427
01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:55,880
Speaker 3: like that's where this, Is, LIKE i think this weirdly

2428
01:49:55,920 --> 01:49:58,200
Speaker 3: puts a lot of. Pressure If caleb in year two

2429
01:49:58,240 --> 01:50:02,800
Speaker 3: Of Ben johnson doesn't take can leap, forward that's all

2430
01:50:02,840 --> 01:50:05,160
Speaker 3: all that good will goes away and goes away quickly

2431
01:50:05,200 --> 01:50:07,680
Speaker 3: Because Ben johnson now has all of the benefit of the,

2432
01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:09,719
Speaker 3: Doubt like one side of the other in this situation

2433
01:50:10,040 --> 01:50:12,160
Speaker 3: is going to get. It caleb got it because Eber

2434
01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:14,200
Speaker 3: BLUs didn't have. It Now Ben johnson's going to get

2435
01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:17,080
Speaker 3: it If caleb isn't. GREAT i JUST i don't know

2436
01:50:17,120 --> 01:50:20,760
Speaker 3: how much, patience especially because of the quick ascension of. C.

2437
01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:23,719
Speaker 3: J stroud and the quick ascension Of jade And daniels

2438
01:50:23,720 --> 01:50:26,360
Speaker 3: like it changes. INAPPROPRIATELY i don't think it, should but

2439
01:50:26,439 --> 01:50:28,840
Speaker 3: it changes the way we view early progress for all.

2440
01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:32,320
Speaker 4: Quarterbacks, no it's, human, right especially When Jaden daniels And

2441
01:50:32,360 --> 01:50:35,080
Speaker 4: Caleb williams are in the same draft, class and you

2442
01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:37,000
Speaker 4: know there's plenty Of bears fans who are going to

2443
01:50:37,080 --> 01:50:41,240
Speaker 4: hit him with if he, struggles and he will have, struggles,

2444
01:50:41,320 --> 01:50:44,720
Speaker 4: Right he's still an incredibly young player very early on

2445
01:50:44,800 --> 01:50:47,599
Speaker 4: in HIS nfl. Career we have no idea What Caleb

2446
01:50:47,640 --> 01:50:49,880
Speaker 4: williams Or Jayden, daniels by the, way is going to.

2447
01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:53,559
Speaker 4: Become like we have a one season sample size of

2448
01:50:53,600 --> 01:50:56,720
Speaker 4: the two of, them and we're making grand indictments or

2449
01:50:56,760 --> 01:50:59,160
Speaker 4: grand assessments about what they will be for the rest

2450
01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:01,880
Speaker 4: of their careers one way or the. OTHER i would

2451
01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:05,160
Speaker 4: disagree with you slightly on the idea that the coach

2452
01:51:05,240 --> 01:51:08,000
Speaker 4: gets the benefit of the doubt just because of this.

2453
01:51:08,120 --> 01:51:10,000
Speaker 5: SITUATION i think that.

2454
01:51:10,000 --> 01:51:13,360
Speaker 4: Fans are more more likely than not to side with the,

2455
01:51:13,400 --> 01:51:17,679
Speaker 4: player even if they are convicted or, conflicted rather on

2456
01:51:17,720 --> 01:51:20,760
Speaker 4: the player and his, talent because the player still you,

2457
01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:23,599
Speaker 4: know it's always the, potential, Right you're trafficking and, Potential,

2458
01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:26,160
Speaker 4: well this player has more. Potential what's wrong with this

2459
01:51:26,240 --> 01:51:28,559
Speaker 4: coach that he can't get the potential out of the talented,

2460
01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:32,280
Speaker 4: player especially when this coach has been heralded as you,

2461
01:51:32,360 --> 01:51:37,360
Speaker 4: know the savior of, quarterbacks and he. Reinvigorated Jared goff

2462
01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:40,240
Speaker 4: and The bears did the thing THAT i hate THAT

2463
01:51:40,360 --> 01:51:44,160
Speaker 4: nfl organizations have started doing for social media, clout which

2464
01:51:44,200 --> 01:51:46,920
Speaker 4: makes me sick to my stomach because it almost always

2465
01:51:46,920 --> 01:51:49,080
Speaker 4: blows up in their. Face they do this thing where

2466
01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 4: the first time that the new person walks into THE

2467
01:51:52,720 --> 01:51:56,160
Speaker 4: nfl facility or the pro sports, facility where every member

2468
01:51:56,160 --> 01:51:58,360
Speaker 4: of the staff is standing on every level of the,

2469
01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:00,160
Speaker 4: lobby applauding.

2470
01:51:59,640 --> 01:52:01,680
Speaker 5: Them and celebrating them in the balloon.

2471
01:52:01,400 --> 01:52:03,679
Speaker 4: Drop and all these different, things and then you fire

2472
01:52:03,720 --> 01:52:05,800
Speaker 4: the guy two years later and you look like dopes

2473
01:52:05,840 --> 01:52:08,840
Speaker 4: has happened here In tennessee With Ryan karthon for just

2474
01:52:08,920 --> 01:52:12,280
Speaker 4: that social media moment Idiots, ANYWAY i.

2475
01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:14,679
Speaker 5: AM i am.

2476
01:52:14,920 --> 01:52:23,479
Speaker 4: Most curious though about How Caleb williams handles this situation moving,

2477
01:52:23,600 --> 01:52:28,840
Speaker 4: forward BECAUSE i don't think that this doesn't have to define, him. Right,

2478
01:52:29,439 --> 01:52:33,120
Speaker 4: yeah just because it's the most recent piece of information

2479
01:52:33,200 --> 01:52:35,200
Speaker 4: that's come out, THERE i think he has. Done he

2480
01:52:35,560 --> 01:52:38,479
Speaker 4: showed UP i think this weekend or later in the

2481
01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:41,559
Speaker 4: week at A chicago middle school or high school and

2482
01:52:41,600 --> 01:52:43,479
Speaker 4: did A q AND a with kids and stuff like.

2483
01:52:43,560 --> 01:52:46,920
Speaker 5: That he has since leaned into the idea.

2484
01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:49,040
Speaker 4: Of being The Chicago bears, quarterback and we have a

2485
01:52:49,160 --> 01:52:54,040
Speaker 4: year sample size of him being a willing, participant not a,

2486
01:52:54,160 --> 01:52:59,160
Speaker 4: malcontent not a problem child with this, organization just understanding

2487
01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:03,120
Speaker 4: that on the front, end understandably so they had apprehensions

2488
01:53:03,160 --> 01:53:05,519
Speaker 4: about an organization that famously does not do.

2489
01:53:05,640 --> 01:53:11,040
Speaker 3: Quarterbacks, Right, yeah it's it's interesting because this is such

2490
01:53:11,080 --> 01:53:14,000
Speaker 3: a huge proven year for the. Organization like everybody bought

2491
01:53:14,040 --> 01:53:17,280
Speaker 3: in last, year everybody's buying again in again this. YEAR

2492
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:20,400
Speaker 3: i hope we can just sort of temper the expectations

2493
01:53:20,400 --> 01:53:22,479
Speaker 3: a little bit and let it grow the way it's

2494
01:53:22,520 --> 01:53:22,960
Speaker 3: gonna need to.

2495
01:53:23,000 --> 01:53:24,559
Speaker 2: GROW i know it never, happens but a little.

2496
01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:26,200
Speaker 5: Bit that's not how sports.

2497
01:53:26,240 --> 01:53:29,439
Speaker 3: Works you, know we do DO i had to pause

2498
01:53:29,479 --> 01:53:30,920
Speaker 3: there SO i didn't just, say do do you know

2499
01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:31,160
Speaker 3: what we?

2500
01:53:31,240 --> 01:53:33,240
Speaker 5: Do? Do you still? Said DO i?

2501
01:53:33,320 --> 01:53:34,760
Speaker 2: Know would you? Rather it's coming up?

2502
01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:37,240
Speaker 3: Next he's buck rising, Up jason fitz bucking fits On

2503
01:53:37,320 --> 01:53:37,880
Speaker 3: Fox Sports.

2504
01:53:37,960 --> 01:53:42,760
Speaker 2: Radio are you? Ready are you ready to do? This all,

2505
01:53:42,840 --> 01:53:44,800
Speaker 2: right let's let's play some.

2506
01:53:46,280 --> 01:53:51,280
Speaker 5: What you where did we get?

2507
01:53:51,320 --> 01:53:51,400
Speaker 6: It?

2508
01:53:51,400 --> 01:53:54,400
Speaker 8: Delay all, Right i'd say that was pretty, good. Guys

2509
01:53:54,479 --> 01:53:55,960
Speaker 8: i've heard you guys do. Better but it's.

2510
01:53:55,960 --> 01:53:56,240
Speaker 2: Okay.

2511
01:53:57,000 --> 01:53:59,840
Speaker 8: Uh i'm actually irrationally excited right now about this new

2512
01:54:00,040 --> 01:54:02,600
Speaker 8: wheel Of fortune style wheel that we have For would you?

2513
01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:05,120
Speaker 8: Rather it's, yeah we just wheeled it into the studio.

2514
01:54:05,160 --> 01:54:08,160
Speaker 8: Here it's, big it's, bright it's got, lights and it's

2515
01:54:08,160 --> 01:54:10,080
Speaker 8: gonna help us decide which questions ask you?

2516
01:54:10,160 --> 01:54:10,519
Speaker 5: For would you?

2517
01:54:10,640 --> 01:54:12,360
Speaker 8: Rather, so let's go ahead and give it a. Spin

2518
01:54:12,600 --> 01:54:13,000
Speaker 8: spin the?

2519
01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:15,960
Speaker 5: Wheel? Baby, Oh i'm so? Happy all?

2520
01:54:16,040 --> 01:54:19,840
Speaker 8: Right, so would you rather possess the power of invisibility

2521
01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:24,439
Speaker 8: but only while loudly humming circus? Music or you get super,

2522
01:54:24,439 --> 01:54:27,400
Speaker 8: strength but your muscles squeak like rubber ducks with every

2523
01:54:27,479 --> 01:54:27,960
Speaker 8: movement you?

2524
01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:34,280
Speaker 5: Make? Oh oh, no it would have to be.

2525
01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:38,480
Speaker 4: Invisibility you, know you'd get through the awkwardness of loudly

2526
01:54:38,840 --> 01:54:44,440
Speaker 4: making noises on occasion rather than just, yeah the circus

2527
01:54:44,560 --> 01:54:47,600
Speaker 4: music is, tough but like you, know we've all probably

2528
01:54:47,600 --> 01:54:49,680
Speaker 4: got a song playing in our heads at any given.

2529
01:54:49,720 --> 01:54:51,280
Speaker 5: Moment why not just externalize.

2530
01:54:51,320 --> 01:54:54,280
Speaker 4: That the idea of squeaking every time you move nothing

2531
01:54:54,360 --> 01:54:57,160
Speaker 4: pisses me off more than WHEN i come in from the,

2532
01:54:57,240 --> 01:55:01,160
Speaker 4: outdoors in you, know in the in the the, rain

2533
01:55:01,280 --> 01:55:04,680
Speaker 4: and there's still water or wet residue on the bottom

2534
01:55:04,720 --> 01:55:07,520
Speaker 4: of my feet And i'm squeaking down the. Hallway it's

2535
01:55:07,560 --> 01:55:10,240
Speaker 4: a plague for, you it's a plague for everybody else around.

2536
01:55:10,280 --> 01:55:12,760
Speaker 5: You, no that's. Terrible give me the invisibility in the circus.

2537
01:55:12,840 --> 01:55:15,880
Speaker 3: Music, no give me squeaky muscles on this, one because

2538
01:55:15,960 --> 01:55:18,800
Speaker 3: hear me. Out if you're invisible and all you have

2539
01:55:18,880 --> 01:55:23,080
Speaker 3: is circus music while you're, invisible, man that feels like

2540
01:55:23,120 --> 01:55:23,520
Speaker 3: a horror.

2541
01:55:23,520 --> 01:55:25,680
Speaker 2: Movie and we all know, That like like you live

2542
01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:26,080
Speaker 2: down In.

2543
01:55:26,080 --> 01:55:29,600
Speaker 3: Tennessee, man if you just start hearing random humming of

2544
01:55:30,320 --> 01:55:33,120
Speaker 3: like circus music but you don't see, anything you're just

2545
01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:33,600
Speaker 3: gonna start.

2546
01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:35,080
Speaker 2: Shooting that Means i'm gonna get.

2547
01:55:35,120 --> 01:55:38,320
Speaker 3: Shot i'm gonna die in that situation because people are

2548
01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:40,760
Speaker 3: gonna hear me and then they're just gonna start shooting

2549
01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:43,560
Speaker 3: in invisibility all of a. Sudden squeaky, Muscles, like at

2550
01:55:43,640 --> 01:55:45,440
Speaker 3: LEAST i still got the muscles, Right, like all, Right

2551
01:55:45,480 --> 01:55:47,440
Speaker 3: i'm announcing myself WHEN i walk, in and then you're

2552
01:55:47,440 --> 01:55:49,520
Speaker 3: gonna look at my big muscles Like i'm In i'm into.

2553
01:55:49,520 --> 01:55:52,800
Speaker 8: Squeak, yeah the humming kind of defeats the point of being,

2554
01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:54,680
Speaker 8: invisible but if you're in like a loud, AREA i

2555
01:55:54,680 --> 01:55:57,040
Speaker 8: feel like it could be. Valuable but, anyway let's spin

2556
01:55:57,080 --> 01:56:01,000
Speaker 8: the wheel. Again this wheel is. Amazing got stuck there

2557
01:56:01,040 --> 01:56:04,360
Speaker 8: for a. Second, yeah we got got a greased up.

2558
01:56:04,360 --> 01:56:07,360
Speaker 8: Again would you rather have to end every sentence with

2559
01:56:07,760 --> 01:56:11,960
Speaker 8: according to my calculations or begin every sentence with an

2560
01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:12,640
Speaker 8: evil villain?

2561
01:56:12,760 --> 01:56:17,760
Speaker 4: Laugh mary's off Off mike evil laugh makes makes it

2562
01:56:17,800 --> 01:56:18,560
Speaker 4: the evil laugh for.

2563
01:56:18,640 --> 01:56:20,040
Speaker 5: Me that was, ideal not.

2564
01:56:20,200 --> 01:56:24,520
Speaker 4: Evil, really that was absolutely an Off mike evil cackle back,

2565
01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:27,680
Speaker 4: there AND i already evil laugh like it's it's just

2566
01:56:27,720 --> 01:56:28,200
Speaker 4: a part of MY.

2567
01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:30,440
Speaker 5: DNA i wish THAT i could do something about.

2568
01:56:30,480 --> 01:56:32,440
Speaker 4: It apparently it sounds a bit like a friendly monster

2569
01:56:32,480 --> 01:56:35,200
Speaker 4: WHEN i, Laugh but uh, yeah give me the evil, Laugh,

2570
01:56:35,280 --> 01:56:35,800
Speaker 4: mary that was.

2571
01:56:35,880 --> 01:56:37,680
Speaker 8: Excellent it's the Arab, Ins that's what it.

2572
01:56:37,760 --> 01:56:38,360
Speaker 5: Is, Amen.

2573
01:56:38,440 --> 01:56:42,040
Speaker 3: HONEY i would take the evil laugh, also just because

2574
01:56:42,080 --> 01:56:43,920
Speaker 3: at the end Of i'm just imagining getting to a

2575
01:56:43,960 --> 01:56:47,320
Speaker 3: heated argument with somebody like you suck according to my,

2576
01:56:47,400 --> 01:56:49,040
Speaker 3: calculations like you're gonna get.

2577
01:56:49,120 --> 01:56:51,640
Speaker 2: Hit i'm out on that, one all.

2578
01:56:51,720 --> 01:56:53,320
Speaker 8: Right we got time for one more quick, one one

2579
01:56:53,320 --> 01:56:55,160
Speaker 8: more week quick. One all, right this one's. Good would

2580
01:56:55,160 --> 01:56:58,200
Speaker 8: you rather be followed everywhere by a mariachi band or

2581
01:56:58,240 --> 01:57:00,920
Speaker 8: have your life narrated? Loudly he, MIGHT i, add by

2582
01:57:00,960 --> 01:57:01,280
Speaker 8: a sports.

2583
01:57:01,320 --> 01:57:05,160
Speaker 3: Announcer the sports, announcer because if the mariachi's, Bad i'll

2584
01:57:05,200 --> 01:57:05,600
Speaker 3: never forget.

2585
01:57:05,640 --> 01:57:09,760
Speaker 4: Myself what buck sports announcer my ego would Just i'd be.

2586
01:57:09,800 --> 01:57:13,360
Speaker 3: Thrilled thanks for everybody for, watching for, Listening we appreciate

2587
01:57:13,440 --> 01:57:14,400
Speaker 3: you watching