1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue, 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: Joe Grande and Marking, Craig Wasserman, the Pot Brothers at Law. 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: We're the world's number one podcast for everything cannabis. Hello, 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: welcome to Cannabis Talk one oh one. My name is Blue. 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: Alongside of me Craig Wasserman and Joe Brande. Hello, Blue, 6 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: and we have an amazing show. Fee guys, Joe, let 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: us know what's coo. Well, thank you guys all for 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: listening all around the world who really appreciate it. Feel 9 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: free to give us a call any time at one Graig, 10 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: can you say that insectively? 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Their flavors are amazing, 47 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: skinny weed connector and Callie effects feel the effects is 48 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: always going down. And Mr Craig wasaser, men can get 49 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: some news, brother, Can you break out some good news. 50 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: There's a lot of good cannabis news out there. Yeah, 51 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: well we got some good news and bad news. I 52 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: mean the good news is that, uh, a group of 53 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: view of Senators has unveiled the Cannabis Administration and an 54 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: Opportunity Act. Say that again, the cannabis Chuck Schumer, the 55 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: Democratic Party is putting forward the Cannabis Administration and Opportunity Act. 56 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: Is this the one that they went against Biden on 57 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: and they said, Okay, we're just gonna go for this yeh. 58 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: But but the sad news is every time the government 59 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: tries to, you know, move forward with legalization, they fuck 60 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: it up. Because I mean, it's it's you always hear 61 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: from the older generation, like our friend Matt Human who's 62 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: been doing political stuff for years, and like people bitched 63 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: about sixty four. A lot of stuff wrong with sixty four, 64 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: But it was a step. It was the first step 65 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: made it, you know, adult use, expunge people's records. But 66 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: it was still fucked up with the regulatory system and 67 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: the and the taxes, and it's got to be fixed 68 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: along the line somewhere otherwise the illegal markets never gonna 69 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: go away until you get bigger with the amount of 70 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: taxes that are going on here in California, UM and 71 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: at the federal level. Granted they want to take it 72 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: off the schedule list. You think that would be great. Yeah, 73 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: that should have happened already for good, that should have 74 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: already happened. But the problem some of the key points 75 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: of the new act that they're proposing twenty one and 76 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: over would be able to purchase it. Sales would be 77 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: limited to more to no more than ten ounces of pot. 78 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: That's what the article says, and I don't know if 79 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: that's ten ounces a day or ten ounces. You can 80 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: go to a store and only can get up to 81 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: ten ounces here in cal Here in California, you can 82 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: only get up to an ounce a day. Are you serious? 83 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: Unless you're medical? And no, correct, unless your medical, that 84 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: doesn't apply period. So now what's also real interesting is 85 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: so they're taking away the jurisdiction over cannabis, taking it 86 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: away from the US Drug Enforcement Agency, which sounds great, 87 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: but guess who it would be under. It would be 88 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: under the U s Food and Drug Administration one agency, 89 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: the Alcohol Tobacco Tax Trade Bureau under the Treasury Department three, 90 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives four. 91 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: It's now under four of les about mentality, So explosives 92 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: is going to be your extracts because they want to 93 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: make sure that they you know, they understand that it's 94 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: a good breakup. I don't agree they The tobacco is 95 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: because because it's the smoke and it's gonna go through 96 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: the distributions like Costco and everybody, like we've discussed in 97 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: the past. Not when it sounds like sounds like what 98 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: you said, it's gonna happen before that you only grand 99 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: thousand bucks or something like that, but it's five bucks. 100 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: But hey, podcast is that they're there, they are recording, 101 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: but you know, but we still I still got time. 102 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: I had three years, you know what I mean? And 103 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: you you don't think it's happen three years in Costco. 104 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: No no, we said no, no no, or some of 105 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: that was our bad when it was ladies, ladies, ladies, 106 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: can we move home? But diving into let's let's continue 107 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: diving into your story because the four what are the four? 108 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: But what are the four different categories? Because I want 109 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: to give that to you don't want to hear the 110 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: worst part is one of the worst things of the bill. 111 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: The foods for edibles, the smoke is for tobacco, the 112 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: explosive is for extraction, and the other one that you 113 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: set up Food and Drug Administration for regulation because its 114 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: Tobacco Tax Agency, right, which is gonna be grade Bureau 115 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: under the Treasury over state lines and no, no, what 116 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: get to my next point? So a lot of you know, 117 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: is ensuring that the states that still have it illegal 118 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: can continue to do that. Say what are you talking about? 119 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: Means you can't take it over state line, so there's 120 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: no interstate commerce. So once it goes federally legal, some 121 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: states can say no, Moss, we don't want to do that. 122 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: Are you sport to this bill? So that so that's horrible, 123 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: Well you think about it's almost as I say, it's wrong. 124 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: He made the decision to do it. Look what they 125 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: do with alcohol in the Bible Belt. No, you can't 126 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: buy alcohol on Sundays, you can't buy it after or 127 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: not not on this side of the border. But you 128 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: go on the other side of the boarder, you can 129 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: buy what you want and bring it home. My point 130 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: is it's like that with alcoholism. On my point to what, Well, 131 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: but that's that's different. Interstate commerce where the businesses can sell, 132 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: can be in California, can sell to any state in 133 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: the country. And if if that, if that isn't part 134 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: of the deal, I say that should be a deal breaker. 135 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: I got an email today from I think it was 136 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: Normal from Normal and it said we need your opinion 137 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: and it has a questionnaire about this new act. Are 138 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: these deal breakers? Two of them? Taxes? Deal breaker? E 139 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: commerce or not e commerce? Interstate commerce? To me, I 140 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: put deal breaker if you can't make it, so it's 141 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: legal in all fifty states, then you know it should 142 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: trump these backward asked states that still have it illegal 143 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: for absolutely no legitimate, reasonable reason. Bill should be off 144 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: the tables. What you're saying, yeah, But what bothers me 145 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: is it's even the Democrats who are coming forward with 146 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: these with with just a solution that you know it 147 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: might get the other politicians. That's what the problem is. 148 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: And the worst that well, they're doing this because it 149 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: gets those on the fence too. Maybe Okay, I'll let 150 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: it go through, I'll vote for it, I won't to 151 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: pose it. Why do you think that federal tax also 152 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: on top of everything scale of up to five percent 153 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: more each year for the next couple of years, so 154 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: we can go up to talk about enabling the illicit 155 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: market on top of up to an effective thirty eight 156 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: to forty seven percent effective tact that we have in 157 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: California under state rules. And it's funny because when people 158 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: read these headlines, you get this feeling Craig that oh 159 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: my god, look how great this is. It's gonna a 160 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: federal legal blue and look, why look at the headline, 161 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: but you don't read all these fucking details and you 162 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: don't hear how they're gonna tax the ship out of 163 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: this even more so, and then these other states aren't 164 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: gonna allow it, and then you're still breaking the law. 165 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: When you go into the Kansas it'll still and Idaho 166 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: it'll it'll dwarf the industry. I mean, it won't allow 167 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: the industry to explode and scale like it could if 168 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: you just federally make it legal, trump the state's law, 169 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: say if you want it legal, it's legal, set up 170 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: a regulatory program. Can they do that? You think? Does 171 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: your knowledge say? Yes, they can do something that makes 172 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: something federally legal. And no matter what the state says, 173 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: if the government says federally legalization period, can they do that? 174 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: Do you know, Mr lawyer? That's alcohol? Are alcohol? They 175 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: can do what they did with alcohol. State can't ban alcohol. 176 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: They can ban it. Well they say love it on 177 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: a certain day like they do in the and I 178 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: think that's what they're that's what they're alluding to in that. Well, No, 179 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: they're trying to get there. They're trying to get the 180 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: politicians who are for states rights. And so it's there's 181 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: a dichotomy because you have state rights, leave it up 182 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 1: to the states. Leave it up to the states. So 183 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 1: if you have that, if you have that, leave it 184 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: up to the states, which we've been preaching because all 185 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: the states but a few have said okay, that means 186 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 1: you gotta take the good with the bad. So one 187 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: state says no, then those people in that state should 188 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: vote those fuckers out of office. And it's almost the 189 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: way government works, right end life in general. You take 190 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: the good with your bad, even with your significant other 191 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: and everything, but sometimes as bad as too much, and 192 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: you gotta cut, like, I mean, this is it right, 193 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: you guys? It worth? Is it worth taking it off 194 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: the schedule list? So it's no longer a federal crime whatsoever. 195 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: They're kind of strong arm against right against all the 196 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: other crap out his bits about what what do you mean? 197 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: So just like you said no, go back to the 198 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: drawing board or or like in the sixty four, you know, 199 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: it gets past we have all this other bullshit that's 200 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: crappy about it. But people got out of jail, people 201 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: got their records e sponge, people have felonies, little down 202 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: to misdemeans. Misdemeans get completely wiped away. I mean, so 203 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: there's you know, it's it's a tough call, and do 204 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: you go back in like we have our friends that 205 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: have a ballot initiative. I don't know if it's gonna 206 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: hit in four, but it's gonna try to overturn the 207 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,119 Speaker 1: excise tax here in California. It's gonna streamline the regulatory 208 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: process until we gotta fix it. So why don't we 209 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: just do it right the first time. There's enough people 210 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: out here in this industry, the stakeholders, that we could 211 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: give them the advice to, but they don't come to us. Well, 212 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: because it's the lawmakers, right, It's these people sitting up there, 213 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: old fox, who sit there and go, I know what 214 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: we need to do. And it's terrible that it comes 215 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: back down to our voting rights, folks who were voting 216 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: to put up there, who we're putting up there to 217 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: make these decisions for us. How is it that forty 218 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: eight states I believe total, have either or adult in 219 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: some fashion or another. Yet the senators at the federal 220 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 1: level from those states, we should have a majority to 221 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: pass federal realization if their states wanted. Why are those 222 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: two fit senators from those states still not voting for it? Well, so, 223 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: so one of the one of the centers came out recently, 224 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: right and just started speaking on a lot of them 225 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 1: have well they're now they're starting to get behind cannabis 226 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: for the first time. One of them has just came 227 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: out and started speaking behind cannabis, which is, you know, 228 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: we have someone on the seat now that that's at 229 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: the table, that is that is pushing behind cannabis. Corey 230 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: Booker has been doing it for years and I don't 231 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: think he's that all behind this too. I don't know. 232 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: I haven't read into what his his take on this is, 233 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: but it's it's just ridiculous, is what it is. I mean, 234 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what else to say except just do 235 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: it right the first time. I mean, take California for example, 236 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: right now, after it was passed in sixteen, regulated in eighteen, 237 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: now we've got we still only have one third of 238 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: four eighty something cities that allow cannabis. Well ship, hold 239 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: that thought. It's Cannabis Talk one on one. We'll be 240 00:12:50,360 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: right back after this break. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk 241 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: one on one live here in studio and listen, Craig. 242 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: You know, I'm listening to everything you're seeing and I 243 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 1: still want to be I'm glad you were drawing back. No, 244 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: I'm still drawing back to the four different bureaus that 245 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: they're gonna issue it two which can we break down 246 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: those brews again, because I think Blue had a good 247 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: point on those bureaus of why, well they want everybody 248 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: to get involved. But yeah, who more bureaucratic. The funny 249 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: part is it does it. The funny part is California, 250 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: which is another story, just went from three regulatory agencies 251 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: to one. Right instead of having one for just we 252 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: had we had one for the for growing the c 253 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: d p h A, we had one for manufacturing the 254 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 1: cd pH and we had one the b c C 255 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: for retail distribution, transportation and the So now they've gone 256 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: down to one agents and they put them all together. 257 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: So it's all this is. It is more bureaucratic bullshit 258 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 1: about those four agencies. And before we do, do you 259 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: guys know how many things we have to go through 260 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: to get tomatoes or lettuce or oranges, alcohol even the alcohol. 261 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: So my point and my point is with cannabis, though 262 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: we're checking something that is you know, a plant that 263 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: people are gonna smoke, just like the food, and you 264 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,119 Speaker 1: have to pass and they're gonna eat it. And there 265 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: I really do and I know we have Craig and 266 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: I see that. But for it to go open eyes 267 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: for everybody. If they do these things right and you 268 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: break down those four things like Blue was mentioning, they 269 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: make sense to have a little bit more Like I 270 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: I really started to see when Blue said, why the 271 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: tobacco are suing? Why not only tobacco, but why the firearms? 272 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: The food? Like there's explosives. What were they beat their hands? See, 273 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: this is the dichotomy. Let's let's each one of them 274 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: talk about each one of them. They want to go 275 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: from one to four now, I mean, but but mind you, 276 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: as we talked about this at the federal level, every 277 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: state that has legalized it in some manner or another 278 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: already has these same agencies. We should have a cross 279 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: state people overseeing the cannabis in their state. It's already 280 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: being done. So we don't need a whole another level 281 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: of bureaucracy, but we need one level that keep your 282 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: hand federal play the federal hand out of the state. 283 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: If you want the federal hand out, but you also 284 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: want them I don't want to handle about them. We 285 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: have to come I wanted off the scheduled list. I 286 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: don't want the Feds. We all want, But the FEDS 287 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: have FEDERL they do. They don't have to come in 288 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: and regulate it. They need to just take it off 289 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: the schedule lists then walk away and walk away. There 290 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,359 Speaker 1: too much. Who's gonna test it? Who's gonna test for pesticides? 291 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: Already have that, Joe. All fifty states should be under 292 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: one though they're all mixed up. It just takes one 293 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: that states another already have the test, but they're all 294 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: in different things, but testing them placing a podcast. And 295 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: that's my point is that's why I'm saying, if we follow, 296 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: if they can put together, in my opinion, a true 297 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: system that follows. And I don't care if it's one, three, 298 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: four or five. But when I heard these four and 299 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: heard blue scenario of Y, which I wanted to dive 300 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: into again, that actually opened my eyes because I was 301 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: I was stuck on one. I liked one. But when 302 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: you said the four and I heard the reasons, that 303 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: makes more sense for all fifty states. Let's follow these regulations, right, 304 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,239 Speaker 1: and and that's how you can you can actually monetize 305 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: all four states, I mean all the States with those 306 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: four different ones, and I want to hear them again, though, 307 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: if you would we got the US Food Drug Administration 308 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: stop there, U S Food Administration, Why Food Administration? Edibles? 309 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: Would you agree not only edibles ready for this? Would 310 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: you agree with testing the pesticides on the plant like 311 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: they do with lettuce and vegm well, next, make it one. 312 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: But I agree that atize all of them and keep 313 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: them all, keep them all. Governments can do better. Did 314 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: you buy eat the food that you haven't had a 315 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: break out? Sometimes we do. We get a call back 316 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: on your food. So it happens. Let's just call it 317 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: what it is. It happens sometimes. But they have au 318 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: and that's happening with cannabis. It happens. But my point is, 319 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: and it goes through. That's all I'm saying. I'm I 320 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: don't know, I like it. What's the next one? The 321 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: next one is Alcohol, Tobacco and Tax Administration. Okay, so alcohol, 322 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: Tobacco and tax. The reason they're already set up for this, 323 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: why because they've already taken alcohol through the prohibition. They've 324 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: already taken tobacco through this process of distribution and monitoring. 325 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: What was what's going on with, So why not do 326 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: it with cannabis. It makes they have the structure, they 327 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: have the infrastructure to do it. And if they take 328 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: just want more tax money, well of course, but but 329 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: I think it's actually gonna be less. Let me tell you. 330 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: Let me tell you what. Let me tell you why. Okay, 331 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,239 Speaker 1: because you have all the states, you have all the 332 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: states right on it. So you have all the states 333 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: now going through one channel, which means that they can 334 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: bring down that tax amount versus just having it in 335 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: the one state. That's what I think. It makes sense 336 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: as well. I hope that's the case, and that's what 337 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: I'm hoping for. If everybody has a true this is 338 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: how we do it. But you're you're hoping that somehow 339 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: by instituting a federal tax is going to bring down 340 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: the tax and if we take away the other ones. 341 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: I've got some swamp land for you, brother, I got 342 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,959 Speaker 1: a bridge to I got I got something for you 343 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: down here. I know I'm saying what I'm hoping for. 344 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: Get it to the creg I hear you, But I'm 345 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: telling you what I'm hoping for and why I'm looking 346 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 1: at what you're saying and hearing what bluesse swamp swamp shorts, 347 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: not swamp swamp. And I don't disagree with the reasons 348 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 1: he's saying. Right, that's what I'm saying. I don't He's 349 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 1: absolutely correct. I think Blues making great points, right, No, absolutely, 350 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: I just I don't agree that we need these other agencies. 351 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: But but but why would the federal government let loose 352 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: of the hole that they already have of it being 353 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: illegal if they're not going to their share? I don't 354 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: disagree with that statement. So so I think it's that 355 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: what's the next one? And that's got to change? What's 356 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: the next one we've got? Um, I've never heard this 357 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: one before, but I'm assuming it's something to do with 358 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: the Trade Bureau under the Treasury Department, which would be 359 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: state lines. Acrossing the state lines. What call again Trade Bureau, 360 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: Trade bureau. It's under the Treasury Department, and that would 361 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: probably be transportation and trade dealing with money, right, doesn't 362 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: have to be across state lines. It's more of dealing 363 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: with money, the money part of it. Well, Tobacco Tax 364 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: and Trade Bureau Bureau under the Department of Treasury. Our 365 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: mission is to collect federal collects taxes as you can. 366 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: That's the taxes game. Look, they've got to eat though, listen. 367 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: In order to run all these programs and have all 368 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: these different entities in place, they gotta take the little more. Well, 369 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: look at this, here we go, and it's saying saying, 370 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: let we just see guys. The Alcohol and Tobacco Tax 371 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: and Trade Bureau UH, statutorially named the Tax and Trade 372 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: Bureau and frequently shortened to t t B, is the 373 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: bureau of the United States Department of the Treasury, which 374 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: regulates and collects taxes on trade and imports of alcohol, tobacco, 375 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: and firearms within the United States. So everything that they're 376 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: kind of using as well, this is the funnel that 377 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: also taxes. Um, those are the three. So that's what 378 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: it is. I don't disagree with that analysis at all. Well, 379 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: that's that's what I can see why they come into place. 380 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: I see why they come into play. If they're trying 381 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: to treat this like a tobacco, like a liquor, therefore 382 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: outstate treated like a tomato, and exactly and it should. 383 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: Well let's start with the alcohol because tomatoes. Listen, if 384 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: you start, if there became a heat, let me tell 385 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: you this. If there was a huge fad of people 386 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: smoking tomato leaves and it was getting them high or 387 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: it was giving them. Of course they would it would 388 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: be a different tax, or it would be illegal, you 389 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And it's been illegal forever, and 390 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: now they're trying to say, hey, it doesn't need to 391 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: be illegal. It actually is medical. It does help people. 392 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: It is an adult brand tax it just like you 393 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: do alcohol. Then you know as well. The problem is 394 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: that everything problem. This is the problem. This is the problem. 395 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 1: Get on the mic, French, you know you gotta speak please, 396 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: this is the problem. Though we are dealing with cannabis, 397 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: which for so many millions of people, it is a 398 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: true medication. We're not dealing with alcohol, which has no 399 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: medicinal value. With the medical under the medical acts though, right, 400 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: the medical under this act, the medical patients would mean zero. 401 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: But because they're not going to pay taxes on it, 402 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: and so they're out in the dust. No, no, what 403 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 1: you means. So they're not charging medical patients, Yes they are. 404 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,479 Speaker 1: What they're talking to the federal plan. Being a patient 405 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 1: wouldn't exempt you from paint, wouldn't exempt you from anything. 406 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: Your insurance companies will pick it up now Craig, No, 407 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: they're not. If they do, they should the way that 408 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: they'll do that only the only one we're gonna do it. 409 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: That happen right here on hing about the next could 410 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: happen in the next ten years. You don't believe that, 411 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: I believe they will. Okay, what's the next one? Go 412 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: to the next one. Then go to the next one. 413 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 1: Next the one is the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms 414 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: and Explosion. Just say, I'm right you go ahead, I 415 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: got you, I got your name. What's the last one? 416 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 1: Hard time? Yeah? So the other thing is this now 417 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: the last one explosives. Right, we're talking about, you know, 418 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: high pressure inside of these extraction labs that have highly 419 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: explosive materials inside of them, and they should be and 420 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: they should be monitored by an explosion for five years. Well, 421 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: thank god, you bootlegger blew your pockets of jack, you know. 422 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: But the point is this, The scrutiny a lab or 423 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: a volatile manufacturing lab has to go through in the 424 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: state of California is absolutely I mean, it's you need 425 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: bomb proof and I don't disagree if you're dealing with 426 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: volatile materials that which they are. Awks. That was that 427 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: was crazy. That was different. But we already have that 428 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: stuff in place. No, but we have it in place 429 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: for the states. Individual state now wants to work with 430 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: other states. So how are you going to do that 431 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 1: if you don't have the Feds involved? And how are 432 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: they not illegal? And step aside, everybody aside you have 433 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: what aren't you hearing? But they're not the right one. 434 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: General government is going to be better than the state legislature. 435 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: Hell no, let me tell you why, because the state 436 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,239 Speaker 1: has sucked it up. Let me tell you why they 437 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: sucked it up. Look at you think, no, I I 438 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: just think right now that if you look at historically, 439 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: our state's been sucking it up. You know, we have 440 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: all these complaints about what our state's done. We have 441 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: all these complaints what every state is doing, right, So 442 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: why do we have all these problems? But now let 443 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 1: me ask you. Are they all bitching about tobacco? Are 444 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: they all bitching about alcohol in the beginning? I bet 445 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: you they did because it wasn't standardized. And the problem 446 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: is that you've got a hundred different chiefs and all 447 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: these no and no Indians, you know what I mean. 448 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: And so the problem is we need more Indians and 449 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: then we need one chief, dude. And and in that 450 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: way I like them, we can push a real tribe. 451 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: Other than that, you know what I mean, we have 452 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: too many freaking you know, chief sheets. No Indians right now, 453 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,959 Speaker 1: every state's chief, and then that's get to get taken away. Bro. 454 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: That just doesn't matter. I do. If I you know what, 455 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: I want to know, you're attacking my friend right now. 456 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: If I want to get if I want to get, 457 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: hoo can handle it. If I'm not afraid of it. 458 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: I say that because hold on, do you remember sniffing 459 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: glue out of the bags doing that? I'm not eating 460 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: the paste, dude. I'll never forget sniffing glue so much. Dude. 461 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: I was looking at the microwave, but I see little 462 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: military men going across the micro I tripped up, so 463 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: I was like eight years old. Disagree that the Feds 464 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: are gonna do any better. Listen, the States. It's not 465 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: about whether or not they're going to do better or worse. 466 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: It's the fact that if they're if we wanted to 467 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: go there, then they got to get their beak wet, period. 468 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: And if we don't let them get their beak wet, 469 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: happen then ain't gonna has not how it should be. 470 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: But but it's the way the game works. So Frank, 471 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: you know yours he turned up pit? Or is your 472 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: power not on one of the other little red button 473 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: there we go? No, no, no, whether you go on, 474 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: there has to be a standard. And the only way 475 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a standard if the states were together. 476 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: He's the state's got to work together. I mean, I 477 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,479 Speaker 1: don't there's you know, like like every state has their 478 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: own rules and taxes on what you said, oil, you know, 479 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: they all have their own rules. But yeah, but but 480 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 1: but listen, we're talking about an elite at this point. 481 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: It's a federally illegal substance. And in fact it's it's 482 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: it's up there categories giving you the carrot. No, no, no, 483 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: they've got to make it better. But in the illegal market. 484 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: And you know what they're gonna. Listen, they're gonna, they're 485 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna damage the plane on the way up, 486 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: but they're not gonna crash it. So but the states, 487 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: the states states right now are crashing it. And let 488 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: me tell you why they're crashing it, because there's everybody's 489 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: in their pocket. They don't have control of their own backyard, 490 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: meaning there's all kinds of illegal activities still going on. 491 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: And why that's because they're too much taxes. How come 492 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: the federal government can't just see that, That's what they're saying, though. 493 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: Do we think in his lifetime? You don't think? Do 494 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: you think? I first, you think he'll be dead before 495 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: it really gets good. I'll bet you hope. I'll bet 496 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: you will, like I got a bet on that one 497 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: right now. Hold on, let's make a bet here. Well, 498 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: Craig be dead and bottle mind without to pay him. Yeah, 499 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: let's see my father right now is eight seven still 500 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,719 Speaker 1: hitting fast. I've got thirty seven years if we use 501 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: that as a game. Dude, you didn't live your life 502 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: like your father did that. It wasn't all beat up 503 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 1: like you. Yeah, he wasn't. He get sick less than 504 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: any of you. Motherfucker, he wasn't. I'm just saying, you 505 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: can bring yourself to your dad. I see your dad. 506 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: He could still hit a ninety mile an hour fastball. 507 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: You can't even hit my nuts, and I'm coming up 508 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: in two miles an hour. I can. I can get that. 509 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: I should hit hit those balls you hit him twice 510 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: with his list, what is that on your chin? It's 511 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: Cannabis Talk one on one. Will be right back after this. 512 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: Take a hit, get let sit back and enjoy Cannabis 513 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: Talk one on one right here with Blue, Joe Grande, 514 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: the Pot brothers at law Marking, Craig Wasserman, and Joe 515 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: Grande is about to give us something when he goes green. Well, 516 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: first off, Craig, that was a great story and I'm 517 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: glad we got all fired up about it. And I 518 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: think that's on the chain was a great way to 519 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: end it. By the way, but everything, Oh whoa, I 520 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: don't attack me because you're nuts are here. Because he 521 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: said he would hit those nuts. Yeah he did. It's 522 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: like that as a sound bite too, please because I 523 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: want that as my phone ring. I'll put your nuts 524 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: on my chat. Blue said that. Either way, I got 525 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: a good go green for you guys. But that was 526 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: great news, Craig, and and it was I mean, we 527 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: could The funny thing is that I could talk about 528 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: I can still talk about, you know, all the and 529 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: as we were just talking in the break, as friend 530 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: Chino was mentining all the other taxes, I think we 531 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: all want the same thing on that just to truck 532 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: when a truck leaves Nevada and it comes into California. Button, 533 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: by the way, don't don't fall that one off. But 534 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: when the truck leaves Nevada and Chicago comes into here, whatever, 535 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: when they come in, they're gonna hit that little pull 536 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: over and they're gonna pay the They're gonna weigh it. 537 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: They're gonna say, you're gonna pay you a little tax here. 538 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: But all these but but but with cannabis, they don't yet. 539 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: So the state tax is higher now. But once the 540 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: the Feds are are are controlling it for that state 541 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: and allowing that state to get their little beek wet, 542 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: and every time someone brings that cannabis through that state, 543 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: the price can go down. Why can't it go down 544 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: because more truckers coming from all over the state's gonna 545 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: go down to when Mexico brings it. Dog, just like 546 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: we're getting avocados from Mexico, Mexico will pay a little more. 547 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: Your wife only uses avocados from Mexico. Believe it, Senior. 548 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: You don't buy the California once because they're too expensively 549 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: and they're not even coming up. He's at the Dollar 550 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: Store going mihaw Craig, I'm getting us at avocados. Okay, 551 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: they had into gund day for me. Oh and tell 552 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: him he didn't say happy Birthday to me, that bastard 553 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: I did. She mentioned it again to day to me, 554 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: you can't even say hi. And I made a solid 555 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: call on the middle of night, like happy birthday, love 556 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: you wish I could be with you. Well, I got 557 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: a good one you guys. For you guys who move 558 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: forward on something that's going green. Fab five Freddy. If 559 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: you don't know who Fat five Freddie is, I want 560 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: to smack you in the forehead because bad five Freddie 561 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: is one of the hip hop legendary classics from MTV 562 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: and all the great stuff that he's done in the past. 563 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: But he's hooked up with b Noble Ink to team 564 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: up with Cure Leaf to launch be Noble Cannabis brand. 565 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: And you know, when cats like this get in the game, 566 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: it just makes me smiling happy. And he's an O 567 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: g older dude to launch b Noble brand in Massachusetts 568 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: and Maryland, so he's hitting up that East coast of 569 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: course that's where he's from. Uh. This partnership is part 570 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: of Cure Leaves rooted and good corporate social responsibility program 571 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: that seeks to help right the wrongs of the War 572 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: on drug which negatively affect people of color who were 573 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: disproportionately criminalized. I love that The Brown founded, founded by 574 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: well known visual artists, filmmaker, and hip hop pioneer Fab 575 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: five Freddie, is dedicated to raising awareness and creating much 576 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: needed funding for people facing the social equity problems that 577 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: they've been having in the cannabis related criminalizations problems that 578 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: they've had. But Nard Noble was sentenced to thirteen years 579 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: of hard labor after being arrested for possessing the equivalent 580 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: of two joints. Nard became a nation symbol for the 581 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: movement to reform unjust drug laws. In two thousand and seventeen, 582 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: after being released from prison seven years into his sentence. Folks, 583 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: did you hear me? Two joints and joints and served 584 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: seven years into his sentence which he probably got out 585 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: on good time and all the other set. But here's 586 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: a quote right here. My life restarted when I walked 587 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: out of prison with the cameras rolling on me and 588 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: I met fab Bernard Noble said, I'm excited to know 589 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: to be working with Cure Leaf and helping to educate, 590 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: inform and bring a high quality product to the people. 591 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: Noble said, can you imagine being pop with two joints, 592 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: of being hit like that? That's just uh, I mean. 593 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: And the sad part is is that this is this 594 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: is he's one of many, you know what I mean. 595 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: And and there's that's not talked about and swept under 596 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: the rug. This is just the the beginning of the 597 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: people to start coming out because we've been disproportioned and 598 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: and the the country is barely starting to recognize it. 599 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: And and and I'm not gonna say that these bigger 600 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: companies are finally getting the picture, but at least they're 601 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: taking the step to do it. And let me say 602 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: in that congratulations Curely, thank you for surely if he's 603 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: doing the right thing, and you're doing and as long 604 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: as you start doing the right thing, we're start giving 605 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: you props all the time. In addition, ten percent of 606 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: the proceeds of each being noble A products sold will 607 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: go to local organizations helping those affected by the war 608 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: on drugs. And this is a great quote right here. 609 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: We are incredibly proud of the team, this brand and 610 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: product to market are bringing with Bernard Nobles and Fat 611 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: five Freddie that is from Joe Bayerne Cure Leafs CEO. 612 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: Bernard's life optimizes the countless individuals who share his story 613 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: and his partnership serves as a reminder of the change 614 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: and opportunity that could help when people work together. And 615 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: that last line right there, when people work together is 616 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: the key element right there that we need to help 617 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: out and take out from black, brown, white, Asian everyone. 618 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: Let's work together and realize that there's people who this gentleman, 619 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: for instance, seven years in prison for two joints. I've 620 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: been outside today alone with Mr Craig Wasserman and he 621 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: smoked two joints in front of me today. True story. 622 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: It's crazy, true story that back when I started smoking cannabis, 623 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: it was two joints and go to fucking jail for 624 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: a long time filling it and you smoke literally, well 625 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: you probably smoke more, but two joints in front of 626 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: me today, which is crazy to think. Did you smoke 627 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 1: any other besides that? Nope, just those two on those brakes. 628 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 1: But still, so you know what, that's your h go 629 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: green segment purely, if you're doing the right thing blue, 630 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: if nobody else loves you. 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