1 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: Hey, Daniel, do you know the concept of absolute zero? 2 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: I don't mean the vodka. I mean, like, you know, 3 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: the concept that there is the coldest possible temperature in 4 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: the universe. Yeah, And I think that's super awesome. I 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: love when there's something in physics that has an extreme 6 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: to it, like beyond this point is impossible to go 7 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: extreme physics. I feel like we should have a heavy 8 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: metal guitar sound there. Yeah. This podcast brought to you 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: by Mountain dew Rush, the physics dude. But you know, 10 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: I was asking because I was thinking about what is 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: the opposite of absolute zero temperature? Like is there a 12 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 1: maximum temperature in the universe the hottest thing ever or possible? Well, 13 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: if there's the hottest thing ever, it's probably somewhere here 14 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: in southern California. But it's a fascinating concept, Like is 15 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: there a point where after you pump in more energy, 16 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: it just doesn't get any hotter. It's it's an incredible idea. 17 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: It's too hot to handle, or two for the universe 18 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: to be handled, that's right, Yeah, or maybe, uh, you know, 19 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: after you pumping too much energy, like it just blows 20 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: up or it crosses a singularity or restarts the universe 21 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: and makes a glitch in the matrix or something. Well, 22 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: at some point when you hit some sort of um, 23 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: you know lights, be kind of maximum limit to the 24 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: in universe. Yeah, I think the physics police would pull 25 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: you over and be like, what are you doing? Explained 26 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: to us how this makes any sense? Um, your your 27 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: way too, You got it. You gotta cool it down 28 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: a little bit, leave a little room for the rest 29 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: of us to be attractive. That's right. Yeah, too much 30 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: sizzle exactly. Hi, I'm for Hey. I'm a cartoonists and 31 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: the creator of PhD comics. I'm Daniel. I'm a particle physicist, 32 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: a part time podcast host, and I've never created an 33 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: online comic. But I did once write a book about 34 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: all the things we don't know in the universe together 35 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: with Jorge, and it's filled with his hilarious comics. It's 36 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: called We Have No Idea. So you only podcast part time, Daniel, 37 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: that's right, only ninety hours a week. That's a part 38 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: time schedule. I have this podcast, I'm going to have 39 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: eighty nine other podcasts I also do. I thought you 40 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: were gonna say that's how much editing this podcast needs 41 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: to get it down to about how much research is 42 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: required to boil down all these incredible insights into just 43 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: one hour of time. Well, welcome to our podcast Daniel 44 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: and Jorge Explain the Universe, a production of I Heart Radio. 45 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: That's right, and into our podcast. We try to take 46 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: some topic of general interest, a question people ask every 47 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: that's something that everybody wants to know about the universe, 48 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: and break it down in a way that actually makes 49 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: sense to you and along the way maybe get you 50 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: to laugh. Yeah, so to be on the podcast, we're 51 00:02:55,440 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: doing part two in our unofficial informal series of Universal Extremes. 52 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: That's right. We thought it'd be fun to take you 53 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: out of your situation, to pull you out of your ordinary, 54 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: everyday life, or maybe you have a very exciting life 55 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: and think about the biggest, fastest, nastiest, hottest, wettest, craziest 56 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: things in the universe. Sorry, there's probably some skateboarders out there, 57 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: or some X Game athletes. They are like, you know, 58 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: my life is pretty extreme already. Man. They have no 59 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: idea there's somebody out there in the universe surfing on 60 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: black holes and riding the shock waves of supernova is 61 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: doing crazy tricks that nobody could have ever imagine. Yeah, 62 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: so a few weeks ago we did what is the 63 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: biggest thing in the universe? Then today we are tackling 64 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: the subject of what is the hottest thing in the universe? 65 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: Answer you, You are the hottest thing in the universe. Ye, 66 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: that's right. No, no, no, no, no, not me the 67 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: person listening to this. Right, that's right, you, our listener, 68 00:03:55,440 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: you are the hottest thing. You look great today. Uh yeah, 69 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: I don't need any flattery, but you know, it would 70 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: be nice to um pride the audience a little bit, 71 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: that's right. Not that we're spying on you, not that 72 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: we're stalking you on social media, but have you been 73 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: losing weight? You look great? Yeah, totally super hot. But 74 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: you know, the universe is filled with all sorts of 75 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: crazy stuff. Here on Earth we have some temperature variations, 76 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: but you know, even inside our Earth, the temperatures get 77 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: crazy hot, crazy high numbers that are sort of hard 78 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 1: to understand. And so we thought it'd be fun to 79 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: take a tour of the universe and to think about 80 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: all the hot places, like where in the universe does 81 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: it get hot? Where in the universe is the craziest, 82 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: hottest nastiest furnace that you can imagine. That's right. And 83 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: it's pretty cool to think. I think about these extreme 84 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: examples because it really kind of pushes your mind, right, 85 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: it sort of expands your understanding and your awareness of 86 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: how crazy thinks and get yeah, and I think you'll 87 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: be pretty surprised by the answer. I don't think that 88 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: what physicists think is a hot place in the universe 89 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: is the kind of thing that anybody would imagine. I 90 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: was kind of surprised when I doing some reading about this. 91 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: Oh wow, really, so the hottest thing in the years 92 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: is maybe the most unexpected it's unexpectedly hot. Yeah, that's right. 93 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: And when I was thinking about this topic, I was 94 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: thinking about how often in physics we have a term 95 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: that we use to describe something, which is also a 96 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: term in English. You know, like temperature is definitely something 97 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: we're aware of, right, you know what hot and cold means. 98 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: You touch things they burn you or they or they 99 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: freeze you or something. But sometimes in physics we create 100 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: technical definitions for things like temperature because we want to 101 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: understand it right. We want to describe it, like where 102 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: does temperature come from, how does it work? What makes 103 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: something hot? What makes something cold? But then this thing 104 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: happens where the technical definition we use in the scientific 105 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: community deviates a little bit from like the familiar term 106 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: that people use in their everyday life, and sometimes they 107 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: can even come into conflict. Is this one of these 108 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:54,239 Speaker 1: terms where physicists, Um, so who what? Who came first? Really? 109 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: The popular conception probably came first, right, Yeah, The concept 110 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: of temperature is age old, right. People have been talking 111 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: about people have been dropping hot coals in their toes 112 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: and screaming curse words and thousands of languages for thousands 113 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: of years, that's for sure. Um. And then people were 114 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: studying heat and thinking about like, you know, what is 115 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: heat and how does it transfer between things? And I 116 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: had no idea like is it a flow? Is it 117 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: a liquid? Is in this invisible this thing or that thing? 118 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: So the study of temperature is just a few hundred 119 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: years old, but the experience of it, right, the knowledge 120 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: of hot things and cold things, that's age old. Right. Yeah, Well, 121 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: let's get into the definition of temperature in in the episode, 122 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: but fort we were wondering what people thought out there, 123 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: all of you listening to this. What you guys thought 124 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: was is the hottest thing in the universe. Yeah, I 125 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: thought this would be interesting to see what people think 126 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: about it, and and I give them some a little bit 127 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: of extra time on this question. I prodded them to 128 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: think about it a little more deeply if they didn't 129 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: seem like they gave me an insightful answer right off. 130 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: So I walked around the campus of UC Irvine, and 131 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: I asked people, what's the hottest thing in the universe? 132 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: And you know, here I was obviously digging for compliments, 133 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: but nobody said me right, Nobody said you, Nobody, nobody. 134 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: Nobody gave me a compliment on how I look that day. 135 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: M Maybe it's just what you were wearing. If you 136 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: had worn something else. It's sandals and shorts every day 137 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: around here. So you So you walked around and asked 138 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: people what is the hottest thing in the universe? And 139 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: generally what what did people say? Right? Well, listen to 140 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: their responses and you can tell that's the hottest thing 141 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: in the universe our sun, like the center of it 142 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: or the surface or say all of it. Okay, Um, 143 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: probably like one of those big the big stars that 144 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: you see on the Twitter videos where it's like they 145 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: get bigger and they get bigger, and I don't know 146 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: what they're called, scary names, super super giant stars. Yeah, alright, 147 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: cool in the middle of some really dense star somewhere. Okay, 148 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: so you think the center of a star is hotter 149 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: than like it's surface, Yeah, okay, cool. I'd assume it's 150 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: not the Sun since you're asking me this, but I'll 151 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: say the sun since I can't think of anything else 152 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: in the whole universe. Um, I don't know, probably like 153 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: a planet. Okay, No, I don't know. Um, we'll call 154 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: it the I don't know, the center of a son. Center. 155 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: The sounds cool, called it. I don't think that's right, 156 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: because don't think that's right, because because some of the 157 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: plasmas they're saying are actually hotter than the sun that 158 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: we have here, so that can't be right. Uh. Okay, 159 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: the center the center of the university. Where is the 160 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: son of the universe? Okay, the Sun, our son? Cool, 161 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: like at the center of it, or on the surface 162 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: or somewhere in the middle, somewhere in the middle from okay, cool? 163 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: All right, So pretty much people said the sun. A 164 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: lot of people thought it was the sun. Yeah, yeah, 165 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: people thought it was the sun, and like that's pretty good, 166 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 1: Like the sun definitely a big hot thing, so not 167 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 1: a terrible answer, right, But I wanted people to think 168 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: a little more broadly, and sometimes I needled people. I 169 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: was like, you know, how about the whole universe? But 170 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 1: still people like, okay, maybe a different sun, like another star, 171 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: hotter sun. You know, I don't think we should be 172 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: insulting our son. I think our son looks great. I 173 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: don't want to do anything to disturb it. You know, 174 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: it's I've been operating billions of years beautiful, you know, 175 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: and it is sort of losing weight every day, isn't it. Yeah? Yeah, 176 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: exactly despite its brilliance, and people, I guess generally feel 177 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: like that must be so hot that any nothing could 178 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 1: be hotter, right. I see, So you were prodding them 179 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: to think bigger like the most people said the sun, 180 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 1: but then you would ask him like no, I mean 181 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: like the entire universe. Like I think for a minute, 182 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 1: like is the sound really the hottest thing? Isn't there 183 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: something else? Crazy? I like to think that if it 184 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: was me and somebody came and asked me about it, 185 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: and I've done no thinking or no research or whatever, 186 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: that I would say something like, I don't know, but 187 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: it must be something hotter than the sun, because I 188 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: have this feeling like there's always something crazy out there. 189 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: There's always something out there that blows our minds or 190 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: surprises us, or it's different or bigger or denser or nastier, 191 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: you know, or faster than we could ever imagine. You mean, 192 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: if so many appression on the street, do you imagine 193 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: that you will just say the most correct and clever, 194 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: cleverest thing possible. No, No, I don't imagine I would 195 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: have the answer. I think I would say, I don't know, 196 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: but it must be hotter than the sun, right, because 197 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: I can't imagine that the thing that's in our neighborhood 198 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: happens to be the hottest thing in the whole universe, 199 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: which is just so crazy. Big. Oh, I see you 200 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: think that. I see you think that maybe they weren't 201 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: thinking that there could be something harder than the sun. Yeah, 202 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: that seems to be what people have. That seems to 203 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: be the impression people have that the sun is basically 204 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: peak hotness. Well, maybe they didn't, just they weren't. They 205 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 1: weren't just thinking that our sun is the hottest. But 206 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: I think maybe they were thinking like the inside of 207 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: the sun that it can't possibly get any hotter than that. Yeah, 208 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: and you know they're not too far off. The sun 209 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: is pretty dang hot. But it's like orders of magnitude 210 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: colder than what we're gonna talk about. Well great, So 211 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: maybe first before we talk about like temperature and numbers 212 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: and how hot things are, let's talk about what those 213 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: numbers mean, so that when you hear like a really 214 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: big number, you can understand, like, what does that really 215 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: mean about what's going on in the side that thing, 216 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: Like what really is temperature? Like, let me ask you, Jorge, 217 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 1: how would you define temperature? How would I define um? 218 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: You know, I mean, I know the scientific answer, which 219 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: is related to like kinetic energy, but you know, I 220 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: think on an everyday basis, it's just sort of like 221 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: it's a feeling, you know. To me, I think it's 222 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: a feeling whether I feel hot or whether I feel 223 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: that something is hot, you know what I mean. Like, 224 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: it's to me, it's not an abstract number. It's more 225 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: like a feeling, and it could maybe be relative like 226 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: something if I feel hot and the person next to 227 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: me doesn't feel hot, then that's the difference of opinion. Yeah, 228 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: and our experience of temperature, You're right, it's definitely relative. Right, 229 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 1: what you feel is actually is the air or water 230 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: around me hotter or cold earth than I am right. 231 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: We don't have an absolute sense of temperature. You can 232 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: do that experiment where you put like, what, one finger 233 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: in a hot cup of water and another finger in 234 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: a cold cup of water, and then put them both 235 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: in a lukewarm cup of water, and then your two 236 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: fingers will send you two different messages when we'll say 237 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: this lukewarm water is actually hot, and the other one 238 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: will say, no, it's actually cold. Because what you're measuring 239 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: is the relative temperature to your finger, right, right, and 240 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: also the sense that you've adapted to it as well, right, 241 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 1: Like you get used to certain temperatures and so and 242 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: then they don't feel hot or they don't feel cold, 243 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, Like you jump in the pool, it 244 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: feels cold for a moment, and then you're you know, 245 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: your skin temperature change is a little bit, and you 246 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: get used to it and then it doesn't feel cold anymore. 247 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: So our experience of cold is mostly about relative temperatures, right, 248 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: It's it's actually about is heat being transferred to us 249 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: or is heat leaving our body? Right, And so it's 250 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: a very kind of feeling based kind of definition. But 251 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: I know that there's an official physics definition of it, right, 252 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: There is an official physics definition, but you know, it's 253 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 1: not really super well defined. It's it's a bit surprised, 254 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: but it's not something that exactly nail down. Like you 255 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: can define temperature for an infinite number of particles that 256 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: have been sitting in a box for an infinite amount 257 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: of time, and that's about it. Like everything else is 258 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: like sort of rough and hand wavy. What do you mean, Well, temperature, 259 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: way they define it is a measure basically of how 260 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: much energy is being stored in a system of particles, 261 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: but that those particles have to be an equilibrium. I mean, 262 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: you can't like have hot spots and cold spots and 263 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: needs to have all washed down, all the all the 264 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: edges and unevenness needs to have smoothed out. Because temperature, 265 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: in the physics point of view, is the description of 266 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: a distribution of the energy of particles in equilibrium after 267 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: everything has sort of calmed down. Um, you said a 268 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 1: lot of words there, Daniel said, I think what you're 269 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,599 Speaker 1: trying to say, is it's it's like an average temperature. 270 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: The thing about temperature is that there's sort of two 271 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: different ideas at play here, right. One is the quality 272 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: of temperature. This is the feeling that you were talking about, 273 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: the experience we have, right, which is really more about 274 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: like the transfer of heat between hotter things and colder things. 275 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: That's what we're experiencing, and that's also what thermometers are measuring. Right. 276 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: A thermometer gets into equilibrium with the thing it's measuring, 277 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: the heat transfers from it to the thermometer. But then 278 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: scientists spend a lot of time trying to understand, like 279 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: how does that arise? What is the microscopic property of something? 280 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: How does that property change when things get hot or cold? Right? 281 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: What is going on inside this stuff when it gets 282 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: hot and cold? How can we define temperature theoretically and 283 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: understand it rather than just measuring it? Right, That's what 284 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: physicists want to do. So they came up with a 285 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: way to define temperature, actually two different ways. At least. 286 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: One way is related to like the mean energy of 287 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: the particles, right, and the other is the relationship between 288 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: the energy of the system and its entropy. Okay, so 289 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: it gets kind of technical. But the thing to understand 290 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: about these definitions are you can't actually measure these theoretical 291 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: quantities directly and exactly right. You can't go in and 292 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: measure the energy of particles individually. What you can do 293 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: is measure the heat flow using thermometers. Right, So these 294 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: theoretical things are connected to what we measure, but they're 295 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: not exactly the same thing. And the other thing is 296 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: that these theoretical concepts, they only really make sense for 297 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: a system of particles in equilibrium because their statistical concepts. 298 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: So what that means is that the theoretical definition can 299 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: deviate from our intuitive experience of temperature. Some things, if 300 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: they're like if they're not an equilibrium or they don't 301 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: have enough particles to be called like a system, they 302 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: don't even really have a well defined temperature or one 303 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: that can be actually measured or practically measured. What do 304 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: you mean what doesn't have a temperature? Well, for example, 305 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: one particle, like a single particle, doesn't have a temperature, 306 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: Like what's the temperature a single particle? It's not defined 307 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: from for a for physics temperature, right, there's like, well, 308 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: you know person temperature, the kind of temperature you and 309 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: I talk about when we get into a pool. But 310 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: when we're talking about temperature from like a physics point 311 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: of view, a single particle doesn't have a temperature because 312 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: it's the property of a system. Right, But what if 313 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: your system only has one particle, then it doesn't have 314 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: a well defined temperature. What do you mean, what if 315 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: there's this cuban space that only has one particle. You 316 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: can't say that that cube as a temperature. You can't. 317 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: That's right, And it's even weirder systum situations that you 318 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: can't say have a temperature, like say you have wait, 319 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: what about two particles? How many particles you need to 320 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: have a temperature? That's not even well defined technically, you 321 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: need infinite number because you need to be in total 322 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: thermal equilibrium. That's the thing. Temperature is only well defined 323 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: for things in thermal equilibrium, which means there's no hot 324 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: spots and no cold spots. Everything is sort of even down, right, 325 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: You had an infinite amount of time for all the 326 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: hot and the cold to wash out, right, So you're 327 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: saying nothing. Technically, nothing can have a temperature because nothing 328 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: can be have infinite particles. Yeah, but you know, like 329 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: a drop of water has tended the twenty three or 330 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: so particles and it tended to one particles in it. 331 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: That's a good approximation of infinity. And so yes, you 332 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: can talk about the temperature of a drop of water. 333 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: You know, it's an excellent approximation of infinity. One particle, No, 334 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: two particles, no, five particles, no. How many particles do 335 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: you need before you can call a temperature that's not 336 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: even well defined? And then also how much do you 337 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: have to wait until you can claim that there's it's 338 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: an equilibrium? Right? That's right. So for people to who 339 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: don't know what I mean when I say equilibrium, take 340 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: for example, so you have like a bag of gas, 341 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: and that gas is that like ten degrees. You have 342 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: another bag of gas that's like, I don't know, ninety 343 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: degrees or something. Now those are both in equilibrium. They 344 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: have temperatures, right, so you put them together into another bag. Right, 345 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: what's the temperature of that new gas? What you might say, 346 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: I don't know the average of ten and ninety, Well 347 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: that's fifty, right, But until those wash shout and all 348 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: of smushes around, physicists say there is no temperature, like 349 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: you just can't define it. So that's frustrating, right, because 350 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: it can. It's like gets in your mind, like that 351 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. And you're right because you're using 352 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: like the temperature that you think about in English, right, 353 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: temperature is a word in English. We have defined this 354 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: other thing, you know, call it physics temperature, which is 355 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: very closely related to English temperature. Right, but it's not 356 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: exactly the same thing. And later on I'll give you 357 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: an example of something which physics says is super duper hot. 358 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: It has a huge high temperature value. But if we 359 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: drop doing it, you would freeze. Hm. There is no 360 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: true temperature technically, but you know, we can't work with ideals, 361 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: so we kind of approximate it. That's right, exactly, And 362 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: anything more than you know, a billion particles, it's not 363 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,239 Speaker 1: a big deal. It works fine, um, But for if 364 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: you want to talk about one particle, two particles, three particles, 365 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: there isn't really a definition of temperature. And I feel 366 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 1: like the whole this whole episode could have just been like, hey, 367 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: what is temperature? And we could I could spend an 368 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,719 Speaker 1: hour talking about this. I know that's a pretty hot 369 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: rabbit hole. Yeah, it's a hot topic. But um so, 370 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: so you're saying it's the mean energy, but I've heard 371 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: it's the mean kinetic energy. What's the difference. Well, kinetic 372 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: energy applies to speed, right, how fast are these particles 373 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: dipping around? And it makes a lot of sense intuitively 374 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: when you think about an object, like in a solid, 375 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: things are colder and things and they're not moving around 376 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: as much, maybe they're even trapped in a lattice, and 377 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: a liquid things are moving around more, which allows a 378 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: liquid to flow. In the gas, things are zipping around 379 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: really fast. Right, it's related to the speed. But particles 380 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: can store energy in other ways. It just don't. They 381 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: don't just have to move quickly. They can also like 382 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: spin or you know, they can vibrate if they have 383 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: complex chemical bonds, etcetera. So they can store energy in 384 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: other ways. So really, temperature is related to all the 385 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 1: ways a particle can store energy. The speed is a 386 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: great one, okay, Yeah, And it makes perfect and tutive sense. 387 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: And so as you're thinking about these things being hot 388 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: or cold, you know, think about them wiggling more right, 389 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: like the way temperature arises. The reason things are hot 390 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 1: is that the particles in them are wiggling more. And 391 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: that's also like why you get burned. You know, you 392 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: get burned because you touch something hot. Those particles are 393 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: wiggling a lot, so they're bouncing off your finger and 394 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: depositing a lot of energy, which is why your temperature 395 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: heats up. Right, it wiggles the particles in your finger. 396 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: That's how heat is transferred, right, Okay, cool, All right, 397 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: So that's a that's a definition of temperature. It only 398 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: took us twenty minutes to get here. I know these 399 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: things sometimes are surprisingly subtle. Yeah, but so let's get 400 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: into then, now the universe, and let's talk about like 401 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: the coldest thing and the hottest thing. But first let's 402 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: take a quick break. All right, we're talking about the 403 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: hottest thing in the universe, and so let's take a 404 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: tour of hotness in the universe. I feel like we're 405 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 1: back in the nineties. Remember that website Are You Hot 406 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: or Not? I think that website. Even mentioning that website 407 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: is sexual harassment for all of our listeners. Oh boy, Yeah, 408 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: the nineties were pretty frog with people made some bad 409 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: choices in the nineties. Yeah exactly, But no, I do 410 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: remember that website, not that I ever participated, And I 411 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: didn't objective by anybody in the internet. But I did 412 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: hear about that website from people. Oh I see, you 413 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: only heard about it, got it absolutely? All right, Well, 414 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: let's let's start with that in in on Earth. What 415 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: some of the hottest things on Earth? Right? Well, first 416 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: of all, let's clarify what we're talking about. Let's do 417 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: everything in celsius. Right, So for those listeners in the US, 418 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: you have to get calibrated. Remember zero twenty minutes talking 419 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: about celsius versus fahrenheits. We're not going to debate it. 420 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: We're just going for celsius um for the for the 421 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: world listeners, um. Zero degrees celsius is the temperature at 422 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: which water freezes, right, and a hundred degrees, of course 423 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: is where water boils. And you know, somewhere in the 424 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: middle is you and me, like our body is about 425 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: thirty seven degrees celsius, right, And you can have things 426 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: colder than zero celsius, right, that's right. Absolutely, you can 427 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: get down to like negative two hundred and seventy three degrees. 428 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: That's absolute zero, right, And that's where they're the particles 429 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: of molecules, the things in your thing have no kinetic energy. 430 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: The things in your thing? Is that a Dr Seu's 431 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: book about physics? The things in your things, the universal 432 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 1: things in your universe. Oh, the things that will wiggle 433 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: in your things. Um, exactly. Absolute zero is when things 434 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: are doing no more wiggling, right, They're just to rest. 435 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: There's no kinnetic energy. Yeah, no, Connecticut, you have masks. 436 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: You can have energy stored in the particles and atoms, 437 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: but it's just not moving. That's right, exactly, it's an 438 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: absolute zero. So that's a negative three degrees c. And 439 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: then zero is ice seven degree C is the human body. 440 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: And then the hottest person ever is point five degree c. 441 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: That's like the hottest anybody ever got? Um with a fever? Wait, 442 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: that's recorded in the history books. Yeah, exactly what happens 443 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: when you get hotter than forty six point five? Well, 444 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: I think your brain cooks and you turn into somebody's meal, 445 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: you know, Like, I don't think your brain can really 446 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: survive much more than that. But this is not a 447 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: biology podcast or a cannibalism podcast, right, um soum. So 448 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: that's the hottest fever and one has ever gotten and survived. 449 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: I think is the and survived exactly, yes, um, And 450 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: then the hottest place on Earth. You know, I think 451 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: there's a a tight race here because Death Valley. I 452 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: gotta give my props to Southern Califorment and Death Valley 453 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: is one of the hottest places on Earth, but it's 454 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: just edged out by this desert in Iran called the 455 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: Lute Desert, and it reached seventy one degree celsius, which 456 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: is really smoking hot. That's the temperature you would feel 457 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: if you were standing in this desert, exactly. And that 458 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: is the hottest temperature ever recorded on the surface of 459 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: the Earth. Is that the hottest air temperature? Do you 460 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Because there's definitely hotter things on Earth, 461 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: Like my frying pan is hotter than that. But you're saying, like, 462 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: if I just put a thermometer and hold it up 463 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: in the air, not touching anything or you know, not 464 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: touching any stoves, that's the hottest place you would feel 465 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: on Earth. Yeah. No, I think I'm composing an email 466 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: right now to the Guinstpoker World Records to consider your 467 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: frying pan to be the hottest place on Earth. Yeah. No, 468 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: you're right. We do create things on Earth that are hotter, 469 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: but the hottest naturally occurring air temperature. Man in the 470 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: caveats just to like, how did defy in the hottest 471 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: place on Earth. So it's air temperature, hottest air temperature 472 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: on Earth, barring any sort of like standing next to wildfire. 473 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: That's right exactly. UM is seventy one degreased C. And 474 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: you might think, well, that's pretty hot, right, but you 475 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: know it gets hotter, like even on the Moon. The 476 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: on the Moon, the the average the average daytime temperature 477 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: on the Moon is a hundred and one degreas C. 478 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 1: I'm just nodding along because that I'm used to fahrenheit. 479 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna take your word that that's pretty hot. 480 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: That's the boiling point of water, dude, Like you put 481 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: water on the Moon, like it just boils. It's crazy, right, Well, 482 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: it just it would boil. Um, it would boil anyway 483 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: because there's no atmosphere. Yeah, that's not surprising. Um on 484 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: Earth at our regular air pressure, a hundred is when 485 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: water would boil, yes, exactly. So you know two degrees 486 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: fahrenheit that's a pretty hot temperature for the surface of 487 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: the Moon. Um. And then here's this is one of 488 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: my favorite ones. The hottest temperature ever revived by a 489 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 1: living thing. That's a hundred and fifty one degrees celsius, right, 490 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: that's why. Yeah, that's like much hotter than the boiling 491 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: point of water. That means that whatever this thing is like, 492 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: it's uh, it really got fried. And that's of course 493 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: our friend the Tartar grade. These crazy little water bears 494 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: that can survive like outer space and being frozen. They're 495 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: like the hardiest thing on Earth right through tiny little 496 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 1: microscopic bugs. Right, yeah, exactly, And you should if you've 497 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: never heard of a Tartar grade, you should google them. 498 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: They're incredible. Yeah, scary looking though, I think they look friendly. 499 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: I'd like to have dinner with the targe. Really, have 500 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: you been a life size Tartar grade, you would have 501 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: run the other way immediately. They look like a big snuggle. 502 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: I mean they're look at the big pillow. I would 503 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: jump onto a Tartar grade and treat like a bean bag, 504 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: all right, So that that can to that's the heart 505 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: that they can survive a hundred and fifty degrees celsis. Yeah, 506 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: that's the hottest temperature ever survived by a living thing. 507 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: That's a pretty impressive record. Right, So you could put 508 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: this in boiling water and put it in boiling water 509 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: under pressure and it would still survive. That's right exactly. Um. 510 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: But then leaving the surface of the Earth, the hottest 511 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: spot of the hottest naturally occurring spot in the Solar 512 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: System is the surface of Venus, which is four hundred 513 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: and sixty degrees celsius. And that's because Venus is such 514 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: a thick cloud layer. It's basically basically climate change gone crazy. 515 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: All the carbodox in the atmosphere means it's a huge 516 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,479 Speaker 1: blanket and just soaks up the sun. That's why Venus 517 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: is hotter than mercury, because it just holds onto the 518 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: onto the Sun's energy and cooks and cooks and cooks 519 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,479 Speaker 1: cool And that's in our space. So um, well it's 520 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: on the surface of Venus, right, That's like the air 521 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 1: temperature if you were standing on Venus, that's right, if 522 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: you weren't cooking eggs, but you were just holding up 523 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: the thermometer in the surface of Venus, that's what you 524 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: ad measure, right, Okay, God, But then if you you know, 525 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: went to the Sun, like a lot of people said, Okay, 526 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: the sun is the hottest thing. Right. Well, it's true, 527 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: the Sun is really hot. If you jump to the 528 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: surface of the Sun, then it gets to like five thousand, 529 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: five hundred degrees celsius. Wow, that's a that's a lot. 530 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: Yeah it is. It's really hot. But you know, there 531 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: are places here in the Earth that are even hotter 532 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: than the surface of the Sun. Like we talked once 533 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 1: in the podcast episode about how the center of the 534 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: Earth is this crazy liquid iron. Right, Well, the center 535 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: of the Earth is six thousand degrees um celsius. So 536 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: that's hotter than the surface of the Sun. So the 537 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 1: molecules at the center of the Earth are moving faster 538 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: than the molecules in the on the surface of the Sun. Yeah, 539 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: that's right exactly. But the Sun is a huge variation. 540 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: Like the surface of the Sun is pretty hot, but 541 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,719 Speaker 1: the corona, like the atmosphere around the Sun is even hotter, 542 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: hotter than the surface. Yeah, it's weird hot. On the surface, 543 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: it's five thousand, five hundred degrees celsius, but the atmosphere 544 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: of the Sun, the corona, is a million degrees celsius. 545 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,239 Speaker 1: Just because things are moving faster, you know, they're just 546 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: more chaotic, you know, I don't even think it's that 547 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: well understood. Like the dynamics of the Sun, how that 548 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: all works is something that we're still really studying. In fact, 549 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: there's ending a probe right now to go like orbit 550 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: the Sun and try to make a bunch of measurements 551 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 1: because the Sun is a pretty big mystery. It has 552 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 1: this crazy magnetic field we don't understand, and uh, you know, 553 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 1: these crazy flares and it's a pretty big deal. So 554 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: people are trying to understand the Sun. We should do 555 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: a whole podcast episode about mysteries of the Sun. Wow. 556 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: So if you grew up in the Earth core and 557 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: then went to visit the surface of the Sun, you'd 558 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 1: be like, oh man, this is like minus five hundred 559 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: degrees celsius. That's right, you have to pack a jacket. 560 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: But first you have to get through the Sun's atmosphere 561 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: in a million degrees celsius. So that'd be pretty tough. 562 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,959 Speaker 1: Oh I see, really it goes from a million degrees 563 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: to five thousand degrees. Yeah, it's crazy, right, Like, how 564 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: can those two things co exist anywhere near each other? 565 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: And it doesn't really make sense. But I think a 566 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: lot of that is because the Sun is expelling all 567 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: this energy, right, and so the the gas the correct 568 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: in the corona gets heated up. But also I think 569 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: there's there's something going on here about the definition of temperature. Right. 570 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: The Sun's corona is not as dense as the surface 571 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: of the Sun, and some of these things that are 572 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: really hot are not actually very dense. Yeah, that's kind 573 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: of what I was alluding to earlier. Right, Like you 574 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: can if you take the temperature of something that doesn't 575 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: have a lot of particles or molecules in it, it 576 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: can still have a temperature, it just wouldn't have a 577 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: lot of things in it. Yeah, So we can have 578 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: a high temperature without having a lot of heat, right, Like, 579 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of heat to deposit on you. 580 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: If you put yourself in a box with a very 581 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: dilute gas that's really really hot, but there's not that 582 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: much gas in there, right, then it's not going to 583 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: cook you because it's not that much energy being deposited 584 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: on your body. For the energy deposit in your body, 585 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: the particles have to hit you and transfer their energy. 586 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: But if there's not that many particles, there's not that 587 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: much to do the cooking. Oh, I see both. Wait 588 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: when you say, temperature is the average kinetic energy. What 589 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: do you take the average of like particles? Do you 590 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: You know, you take the total energy and you divide 591 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: by the number of particles. What does it mean to 592 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: take the average? Yeah, it's act the property of the distribution. Actually, 593 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: so yeah, what we're looking for is the mean of 594 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: that distribution. Yeah, but you know that's a dangerous we 595 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: could we could go down that rabbit hole the definition 596 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: of temperature for another twenty minutes. Be careful. Well, I'm 597 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: still confused. I know it's tricky. It's tricky. Um, but 598 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: let's keep going. Um. Then you come back to on Earth, right, 599 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: and it turns out that we can generate things on 600 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: Earth that are even hotter than the corona of the 601 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: Sun for example. Um, when we still used to test 602 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: nuclear bombs, like on the surface of the Earth. At 603 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: the core of a nuclear explosion, you get up to 604 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: like ten to fifty million degrees celsius. Right, These are 605 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: crazy high numbers that are hard to even think about. Okay, 606 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: so that means that the molecules at the center of 607 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: the nuclear exupportion are moving super duper, duper, duper fast. Yeah, exactly, 608 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: super duper duper fast. And that number fifty million degrees celsius. 609 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: You know, that's comparable to like really hot astronomical stuff. 610 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: You know, like for example, when a supernova happens, right, 611 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: a star goes goes, no, it explodes. Well, that's a 612 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: similar temperature. Like it's fifty million degrees celsius um in 613 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: the gas that's expelled by the supernova. Right, that's when 614 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: I start collapses. Right, That's right, the star collapses and 615 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: then explodes um. And you know what's left is like 616 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: a little neutron star or a black hole in the center, 617 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: and the rest is all this gas that's that's spelled out. 618 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: That's a spewed out and that's a fifty million degrees celsius. Okay, cool. 619 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: This surprised me a little bit. It turns out that 620 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: like supernovas are not even the hottest thing out there 621 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: in space, even though they're hotter, you know than our sun, 622 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: and they're hotter than nuclear nuclear bombs going off. The 623 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: hottest thing that's out there in space is stuff like 624 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: the intercluster medium that's just like all this gas that's 625 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: between galaxies. You know how galaxies have a huge amount 626 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: of gas in the mixed stars, etcetera. But between the 627 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: galaxies is not totally empty. We did a whole podcast 628 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: episode about like how empty is space? And then there's 629 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: these tendrils of gas that connect the galaxies together, and 630 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: they're pretty thin. That's like not a whole lot of 631 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: stuff out there. You need like a thousand cubic meters 632 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: of space just to have one particle. But they are 633 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: really really hot, Like those particles are really moving and 634 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: the temperature never number you get is a hundred million 635 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: degrees celsius. Are they all moving in one direction, you know, 636 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: like wind? Or are they just sitting in place vibrating 637 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: really fast? I think there are currents because the reason 638 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: that this stuff is hot is that they're getting heated, right, 639 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: They're getting heated by like the black holes at the 640 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: centers of these galaxies that are pushing on them and 641 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: the crazy like you know, rubbing of of huge clouds 642 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: of gas that's spewing stuff out. So I think they're 643 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: getting the sources the galaxies that probably they're all spewing 644 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,479 Speaker 1: away from the galaxies, but they're probably our currents. As 645 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: these galaxies spin and things hit each other, it's probably 646 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: really complicated. So it's actually kind of in the empty 647 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: spaces between galaxies that we see some of the hottest 648 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: stuff in the universe. Yeah, and that's the weird thing. 649 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: It's it seems empty, and if you went out there 650 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: and like look for particles, you wouldn't find very many. 651 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: But if you have, you would get burned to a crisp. 652 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: You would not get burned to a crisp because there 653 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: are hardly any particles out there, And you can ask 654 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: a physicists like, hey, what's the temperature out here, and 655 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: they'd be like, m, it's a hundred million degrees celsius. 656 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: But if you got dropped there without a space suit, 657 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: you would not get burned. You would freeze. I see 658 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: there there are a lot of hot pins out there 659 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: in that space, but if you stood there, you wouldn't. 660 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: You would hardly feel them exactly. They're there, and they're 661 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: really hot, Yeah, they wouldn't. You wouldn't get hit by 662 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: enough of them to keep you warm, right, you would lose. 663 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: You would radiate all your heat into the pretty empty 664 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: space and freeze into a block a block of ice, right, 665 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: And you wouldn't get warmed up by the hundred million 666 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: degrees celsius plasma that surrounds you because it's hardly any 667 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: part of hitting you, all right, see, but the average 668 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: speed of those few that are there is a lot 669 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: there wouldn't exactly just wouldn't be enough to really burn 670 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: you or feel them exactly. Yeah. Wow. Right, so it's 671 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: zoom back to Earth because it turns out that here 672 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: on Earth we've created some pretty crazy hot stuff. And 673 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: that's not just your frying pan. But when we collide 674 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: particles at the Large Hadron Collider, we very briefly create 675 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: a situation where the particles have a huge amount of energy. Okay, 676 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 1: but again it's not about energy you're saying. You create 677 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: a situation where the particles are moving really really really fast. Yeah, 678 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: the particles are moving really really really fast. But you 679 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: don't really consider the temperature of a particle, right, So 680 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 1: if you say, like, well, what's the temperature of a 681 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: proton zooming around the Large Hadron Collider, we can't talk 682 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 1: about the temperature of one particle. But sometimes in the 683 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: Large Hadron Collider, we don't just collide protons. We take 684 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: big stuff like the nucleus of a gold atom or 685 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 1: lid atom, and we smash those together, and the reason 686 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: is that they're trying to break up the matter and 687 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: create this this condition that they think existed in the 688 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: early universe. It's called the cork gluon plasma. So when 689 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: you break the proton up and the corks and the 690 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: gluons have so much energy that they're not bound anymore. 691 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: They're just like floating around free. So you smash enough 692 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 1: particles together so you know, lead and uh and gold 693 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: atoms have hundreds of protons and neutrons in them. Then 694 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: very briefly you create this thing which they think is 695 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: in equilibrium, so you can define the temperature. It's like, 696 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: you know, bounced around for a few you know, bill 697 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: of seconds, and this thing they say, he gets to 698 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 1: five and a half trillion degrees celsius trillion with the 699 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: T trillion with the T exactly, Like that's a big number. Well, 700 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: let's get into now the hottest the absolute champion most 701 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: hot thing in the universe. But first let's take a 702 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: quick break. All right, Daniel, here we go. Here's the 703 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: answer to the question that we post at the beginning. 704 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 1: The hottest things in the universe, the absolute extreme most 705 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: hot things in the universe exactly, and here I think 706 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: we got to give some credit to the scientist for 707 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 1: coming up with names. Is you know, on this podcast 708 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: we're always poking fund of scientists for naming things in 709 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: a silly way. I think they did a great job here. 710 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: Because the maximum the temperature in the universe, the condition 711 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: of something being at the absolute maximum temperature. They call 712 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 1: it absolute hot, which I think is pretty cool. You mean, wait, 713 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: you're saying that there is a maximum temperature in the universe. 714 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: That's right, there is a maximum temperature, and it's a 715 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 1: crazy number, and it's kind of a hard thing to 716 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 1: think about, Like why would there be a maximum temperature? 717 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: You might think you can give an infinite amount of 718 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: energy to a particle, and that's true, right, Like you 719 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: take a single particle, you can dumb as much energy 720 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: as you want into it. You know, there's a state 721 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: of light issue. But we're not talking just about speed. 722 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 1: We're talking about the energy of the particles. No limit 723 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: to how much energy you can give a particle. But 724 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: now we're talking about a system of particles, so we're 725 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 1: talking about energy density. What happens when a bunch of 726 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: particles have a huge amount of energy. Well? Gravity, right, gravity? 727 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: Remember bends space, and it bends space when you have 728 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 1: particles with mass, but also it bends space and you 729 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 1: have energy density. Alright, gravity is not just something that 730 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 1: responds to mass, a response to energy. So what happens 731 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,959 Speaker 1: if you pour too much energy into a little blob 732 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: of space? Black hole? What? Yes, black hole? Right, there's 733 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 1: a maximum amount of energy you can have in a 734 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: certain in a volume of space. More energy than that 735 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: turns into a black hole. So you can't heat something 736 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: up past that. Wait to wait wait wait wait wait wait, 737 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,720 Speaker 1: So the I mean I would think that the maximum 738 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: temperature in the possible theoretically is when you have a 739 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: box of particles and every particle in it is moving 740 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: pretty much at the speed of light. Because you know, 741 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: temperature we said before is related to how fast things 742 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,720 Speaker 1: are moving. So what if every particle was moving close 743 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: to the speed of light. You're saying that's not possible 744 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,320 Speaker 1: or we wouldn't even get there. That's possible, it's just 745 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 1: not even that very hot because remember the speed speed 746 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 1: is not the limitation, right, Like, you can get particles 747 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: up to the speed of light without even having that 748 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: much energy. Okay, and not bad to the speed of light, 749 00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 1: just like close to the speed of light. But remember, 750 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 1: as you dump more energy into these particles, their speed 751 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: doesn't go up very much. That's why temperature is not 752 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 1: just the speed of the particles, it's their energy. Remember, 753 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 1: relativity separate speed and energy, and there's no limit to 754 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: how much energy you can put into an individual particles. 755 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: You have your box. You can keep pumping energy into 756 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 1: those particles. Their speed doesn't go very much, but their 757 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: energy increases. But you keep doing it. Eventually your box 758 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 1: turns into a black hole. Oh what point does it 759 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,439 Speaker 1: turn into a black hole? Are you ready for the number? 760 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: All right? For here's absolute hot is a billion trillion 761 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: trillion degrees celsius, billion trillion trillion degrees. Is there a 762 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 1: name for that, or it's called absolute hot, or more 763 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: technically it's called the plunk temperature. But wait, is it 764 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 1: a billion trillion trillion degrees or is it you know, 765 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: two point seventy three or four? It's just a round number. 766 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: Oh no, it's not exactly a billion trillion trillion degrees. 767 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: But the number, if you want to know the exact value, 768 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: is one point four one six times ten to the 769 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 1: thirty two kelvin. All right, that's like a hundred and 770 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: forty two million yadda kelvin's or a hundred and forty 771 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: two million quadrillion degrees kelvin. It's pretty hot. It's a 772 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 1: lot of YadA, it's a it's a lot of And 773 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 1: then you might ask like, well, you know, is that possible, 774 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 1: like that ever existed in the universe, And you know, 775 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 1: we don't think it's happening right now. There's nowhere in 776 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: the universe that's absolute hot right now. Um, but we 777 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 1: think that just after the Big Bang, like you know, 778 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: this this crazy moment when the universe was inflating, right 779 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: when they expanded really really rapidly. We think that just 780 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: before that that the universe was at the plunk temperature, 781 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: and that uh, you know, that's the absolute hottest moment 782 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 1: in the history of the universe. But there's a lot 783 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 1: of handwaving there because we really don't understand what happened 784 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 1: during the Big Bang and why did it cause inflation 785 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,240 Speaker 1: and not just all collapse into a black hole. Anyway, 786 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: there's a lot of questions about that, Okay, there is. 787 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,240 Speaker 1: So the main point is that there is an absolute 788 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 1: like if I take a if I heat something in 789 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: my frying pine forever. At some point it's gonna get 790 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: super hot, and at some point it's it's just gonna 791 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 1: turn into a black hole and it can't get any 792 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: harder or what. You cannot create a black hole on 793 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: your stovetop working, I'm sorry, No matter how long you 794 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: cook that bacon, it'll get black, it'll turn into charcoal, 795 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 1: not a black hole. But if you had like laser 796 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: beams and all sorts of stuff, and you could like 797 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: pour energy into a tiny area, then in principle, you 798 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: could create a black hole. Yes, well, how to First 799 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 1: of all, how do you know I don't have lasers 800 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 1: in my kitchen already? You're an impressive chef, and you're right. 801 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: I shouldn't have ruled anything out. I issue formal apology. Um, 802 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 1: But I mean basically, if you heat something out long 803 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: enough and you put enough energy into it, at some 804 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 1: point you're saying it's going to turn into a black 805 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 1: hole and then it can't get any harder or what happens. 806 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: Then we don't know what happens then, right, because then 807 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: it turns into like quantum gravity questions and we just 808 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: don't even have a theory, so we don't I mean 809 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: we don't know what's happening inside a black hole. If 810 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 1: you poor energy into a black hole, we don't know 811 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 1: what happens. Um. Basically, it's a huge question mark. So 812 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: it's sort of a breakdown of the definition of temperature. 813 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,720 Speaker 1: Like stuff definitely happens, things get crazy, or the universe 814 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: gets weirder, but it's not according to our definition of temperature. 815 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 1: Does that the number we define as temperature doesn't go 816 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: up anymore? So maybe calling it absolute hot is a 817 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: little premature, right because it really you've called it super 818 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: duper crazy hot, yeah, or like super duper I don't 819 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 1: know what happens after this hot is really sort of 820 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: more accurate, right, But we should have called it Jog's 821 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: frying pan hot. Yeah, there you go. Jore is black 822 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:47,839 Speaker 1: bacon hot exactly exactly. Okay, So that's a lot um 823 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 1: And you're saying that happened at the beginning of the universe, right, 824 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 1: like it. So the hottest thing in the universe ever 825 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 1: is the Big Band. Just once again, that's the answer 826 00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 1: for everything. The hottest thing in the universe is the 827 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 1: Big Bang, yes, as far as we know. Okay, but 828 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 1: that happened a while ago. But if we looked at 829 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 1: the universe. Now, what what would you say is the 830 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,399 Speaker 1: hottest thing, Well, the hottest thing recently is this cork 831 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: glue on plasma we create the at the large hage 832 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,280 Speaker 1: On collider. Right, that's five point five trillion degrees celsius. 833 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 1: That's hotter than we think, you know, most things in 834 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 1: the universe. Um, otherwise, like the inside of a neutron 835 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: star we think is about a hundred trillion degrees celsius, 836 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,240 Speaker 1: and that's probably the otherwise hottest thing in the universe, 837 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: like on a day to day basis, because you know, 838 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,320 Speaker 1: the large Hagron collider, these things exist for ten to 839 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 1: the might is twenty three seconds, so they don't really 840 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: stick around very long. But the intside of a neutron 841 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 1: star is super hot and very stable at a hundred 842 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: trillion degrees celsius. Wow, a cool and chili hundred trillion celsius, 843 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 1: which is what like fifty fahrenheit or how much is that? 844 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: I have no concept something like that, something like that. Yeah, exactly. Um, 845 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 1: don't pack any jackets. I don't think you'll need them 846 00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 1: because you won't be alive. That's right, Okay, cool, So okay, 847 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 1: so that's the hottest thing in the universe. It's the 848 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 1: big Bang ever and it's the inside of an intrance 849 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 1: star out there possibly right now. That's right, that is 850 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 1: the hottest place in the universe right now. All right, Well, 851 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: stay tuned for future episodes in our Extreme Physics series 852 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 1: will be tackling also the brightest thing in the universe 853 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 1: and maybe also the densest thing in the universe. We 854 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,720 Speaker 1: should also tackle like the funniest thing in the universe. 855 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 1: That's obviously that's this podcast like done. Yeah, but speaking 856 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: of funny things, yea, I have a request for you 857 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: from a listener. All right, we have a listener in 858 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 1: New Zealand who's a huge fan of limericks and often 859 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,959 Speaker 1: tells physics limericks to his class of ten and eleven 860 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 1: year olds where he teaches in New Zealand. Well, I 861 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: said a limerick in our podcast a few weeks ago. 862 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: We were talking about tacking on and uh, he noticed 863 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: that you didn't laugh at my limerick, so he sent 864 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 1: me a different physics rick to see if we can 865 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,439 Speaker 1: make you chuckle. All right, So here you go, you ready, 866 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 1: right right, all right? Hit me. There was a physicist 867 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: called Joe who wanted the whole world to know that 868 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 1: those stars that we say are far far away are 869 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: actually long long ago. Nice. That's cute. That's pretty cool. Yeah, 870 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: that's pretty cute. Thank you Ryan. Let's say with Jorge, 871 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 1: I thought it was somehow related to me. No. Um, Well, 872 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,760 Speaker 1: let's ask our our listener to send in one tailor 873 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 1: for you. But that's for Isaac Garmet from Coromandel, New Zealand. 874 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 1: So thanks for sending that in. Yeah. Great, And if 875 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,279 Speaker 1: you have any other limericks or ideas or questions for us, 876 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 1: maybe a banana related limerick for Jorge, send them in 877 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: two feedback at Daniel and Jorge dot com. We love 878 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 1: your emails. Great, thanks for listening and we hope you 879 00:44:49,320 --> 00:45:00,400 Speaker 1: enjoyed this. Tune in next time the hot person you. Yeah, 880 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 1: if you still have a question after listening to all 881 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 1: these explanations, please drop us a line. We'd love to 882 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,760 Speaker 1: hear from you. 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