1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: source for the nation's best fantasy speculation and advice. Hello, 3 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: Welcome back through Fantasy Football Weekly with your host, faithful 4 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: narrator John mcgeza at the very creative handle on Social 5 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: John Lagaza, and my body and yours, mister Jake Trowbridge. Jake, 6 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 1: feels like a little bit of the quiet before the storm, right, 7 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: we had so much movement, so much action. The draft happens, 8 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: the snow globe gets shaken, and I was scrambling doing 9 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: ranks for moving players. And now this week things are 10 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: kind of settling. So we'll talk about some news and notes, 11 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: then some strength of schedule stuff that came out, and 12 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: everybody was really excited. How are you doing, my friend. 13 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: I'm doing good. 14 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 3: I'm trying to weed my way through some of this 15 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 3: white noise that happens this time of year. Though this 16 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: is the lull where you said it, there's not a 17 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 3: lot going on, but you know, voluntary OTAs are kicking off, 18 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 3: and this is guy where some of the weird offseason 19 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 3: narrative stuff, the fluff starts to come out that you 20 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 3: really gotta do well to sift through. So some of 21 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 3: the stuff I know we're going to talk about today 22 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 3: is actually impactful, and some of this other stuff out 23 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 3: there is just a little bit junkie. 24 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: I think the word fluff is really fitting. It's like 25 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 1: junk food. You could consume as much of it as 26 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: you want, but it might just be a negative right 27 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, a little satisfying as 28 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: you're getting your rumor on. But then, like you said, 29 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: is it actionable? And if you act on something that 30 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: it's not actual, you're only going to hurt yourself. I 31 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: try and tell myself this every year, whether it's baseball 32 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: spring training or NFL with these exhibition games, with the preseason, ignore, ignore, ignore, 33 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: just pay attention to health. I know sometimes there are 34 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: some signals in playing time, rotations and stuff, but I'll 35 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: be honest, I e betterrow sticking with my guns before 36 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: we dive in. Do you have a take on that, 37 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: because that's one of my most interesting questions for tried 38 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: and true you know, fantasy players and analysts, Well, how 39 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: do you treat the preseason? Do you even care? 40 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 3: I try to ignore it preseason unless it's something that 41 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 3: is so out of left field, like wow, I can't 42 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 3: believe that they trotted out Joe Burrow for an entire 43 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 3: preseason game. That must mean something, because otherwise they're just 44 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 3: insane to do that. Obviously, that's a silly hypothetical. But otherwise, no, 45 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 3: I don't. I know some of these guys are still 46 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 3: fighting for roster spots, but in general, the preseason has 47 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 3: gotten so shrunken down, I think, and it's become a 48 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: little bit less meaningful than it used to once upon 49 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 3: a time, with fewer games and all that stuff. So 50 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: I just try to, uh, as you said, avoid it 51 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 3: and not overreact. 52 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of these coaches, and bless their hearts, 53 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 1: you know, they're taking their job seriously and we want 54 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: them to do that, but some of them think they're 55 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 1: protecting state secrets during these exhibition games, and I think 56 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: it actually hurts them where we want some repetition and 57 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: like you mentioned, guys will be sitting. But then some 58 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: analysts overreact. Did you see this third string back got 59 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: first quarter run? Those are the notes that I'm trying 60 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: to ignore, because then you see these giant moves and 61 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: drafting markets. All right, how about the actual news it 62 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: did happen. Old Man Rogers is on the move. I 63 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: think we were pretty much on that. It felt like 64 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: a foregone conclusion, but we mentioned the meeting that was 65 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: not Well, it did happen. Aaron Rodgers does sign a 66 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: one year contract extension to return to the Steelers. Then 67 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: there was a semi cole in like the next day 68 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: or two, he says he's going to retire afterwards, this 69 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: is it. Well from all of us, mister Rogers, thank goodness, 70 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: but for the time being, for the time being, Jake, 71 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: you know, this does have drafting impact. I saw a 72 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: couple analysts say that Rogers, up to date in Best 73 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: Ball drafts or maybe even some dynasty stuff, was one 74 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: of the more undervalued players. Right because he's off the 75 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: board and now he's gonna start. What do you think 76 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: about Rogers and then his impact on the steel and 77 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: how you're treating him going forward. 78 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I think I said last week, John that 79 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 3: it was getting to a point where like they were 80 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 3: just waiting and waiting and waiting on him, and I 81 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 3: didn't really get the appeal of that. And even from fantasy, 82 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 3: I was thinking, is it really going to be that 83 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: much worse if they tried out? You know, the rookie 84 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 3: Drew Alaar or last year's rookie, Will Howard or whoever. 85 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 3: Would it be worse than what we saw from Rogers 86 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 3: last year, who was getting the ball out of his 87 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 3: hands as fast as possible to avoid anybody breathing on him. 88 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 3: And it was just really a downtick. For all those 89 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 3: fantasy pieces outside of like Kenny Gainwell, I will say 90 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 3: I'm a little more interested now that he has admitted 91 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 3: this is his last season, Like I think we could 92 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 3: have all assumed that, but a thank you for saying 93 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 3: that so we don't have to drag this out even 94 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 3: longer into another offseason. But also maybe if he knows 95 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 3: that it's really his last season, it gets him to 96 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 3: play with a little less you know, conservatism, Like he's 97 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 3: a little more loose with it. He's trying to and 98 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 3: his legacy on top. Maybe it just forces him to 99 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 3: up his game a tiny bit. So for the fantasy pieces, 100 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 3: I'm trying to talk myself into some of these guys 101 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 3: from that perspective, like. 102 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: Michael Pittman, DK Metcalf. 103 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 3: Maybe I'm around a little bit more on them, but 104 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 3: I think I'm probably the outlier and staying away from 105 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: most of these guys. 106 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: John Yeah, you really nailed it. The word for me 107 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: is aggression and something that Rogers was always known for 108 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: and that's not necessarily something we expect to drop off 109 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: with each right, because that's really a cerebral thing as 110 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: long as you have the arm talent, and that I 111 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: certainly think he does. Is because more about what you said, 112 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: they're really trying to avoid in taking hits, which they should, 113 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: but when it really starts to reflect onto the spreadsheet 114 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: and then onto the team, I think it really hurts you. 115 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: Rogers had a six air yard per tenth, Like that's 116 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: not going to cut it. One of my favorite stats 117 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: As we go, we'll get into some of my quarterback analysis. 118 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: I like percentage of throws to the sticks. I was 119 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: talking going to Mike Sando, and Sando has a real 120 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: great reputation in NFL circles. I think he might even 121 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: run with some GMS and stuff, and he would talk 122 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: about that all the time, and it really ranked me 123 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: because that really adds like a contextual element to efficiency. Right. 124 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: We want high completion rates and we want, you know, 125 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: deep targets, but not always what do we always want 126 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: the ball to go to the sticks that it was 127 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: at thirty three percent, so just a third of his 128 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: attempts last year went to the stick. Was So my 129 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: point is, Jake a low a dot like a low attempt, 130 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: it's not the end of the world providing it's getting 131 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: to the sticks because it means you're effective running. That 132 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: just wasn't the case with this pass game. So now 133 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: to the draft room itself. These are real time prices. 134 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: DK metcalf eightp. Seventy six. I won't bury the lead 135 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: for me. That feels very rich. Michael Pittman at one 136 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: oh six. All of a sudden, I'm like, maybe if 137 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,679 Speaker 1: Rogers is gonna get it out. We've seen Pittman operate 138 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: with some success at shorter and intermediate routes. Do you 139 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: have a take on either one of them, either both, neither? 140 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: What do you think? 141 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 3: I'm more into Pittman because he should be presumably the 142 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: shorter I doubt. I don't want to say dump off 143 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 3: because that is not what it's going to be necessarily, 144 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 3: but he will be the shorter pass guy. I would 145 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 3: like to see any of these guys be able to 146 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 3: catch the ball short and have massive yak potential. I 147 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 3: don't know that I see any of these guys having 148 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: both of those things unfortunately, but I would still be 149 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 3: more in on Michael Pittman, especially at that price. 150 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, metchalv is so interesting that he's got all the 151 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: yak on the deep target. So it really is very 152 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: much an all or nothing thing. I don't want to 153 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: say like on some tape guru, but just watching it 154 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: didn't really seem to click for me. He looked a 155 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: step slow, The continuity between the two didn't seem to 156 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: be there. Nice to have it back. Maybe that works. 157 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: We might have that same issue with Pittman. I think 158 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: Pittman is a better player right now apples to apples 159 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: that Metcalf. I think for fantasy purposes, at least maybe 160 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: if it was a real team, maybe I prefer Betcalf 161 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: for fantasy, especially with the price factored in. I think 162 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: Pittman's a really great play. My worry is also, what 163 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: does the quarterback back play look like if Rogers does 164 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: fall off, Because not only do we have this quarterback 165 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: that kind of plays slow, I mean, we liked it. 166 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: He doesn't run though. I like when quarterbacks run for 167 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: first downs because it does extend drives this Pittsburgh offense 168 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 1: from a macro standpoint on the passing side was just 169 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: really poor, you know, bottom five across the board no 170 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: matter how you slice it. I don't think I wanna 171 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: really invest too heavily in the Steelers. You could sell 172 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: me on Pittman, like you said, and I think I 173 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: might just want a one off it. If Pittman works 174 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: at the price, I'll take it. Metcalf feels like an overpay. Now, 175 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: I like to pick your brain for some of the 176 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: younger guys. How about this, Jeremy Bernard. I just say 177 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: it with that inflection, because I don't know much about 178 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: these players. He's the only one going inside the top 179 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: two hundred pick one eighty, and then it's Roman Wilson 180 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: two sixteen. So for would you agree, maybe Pittman is 181 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: the value and walk away. Do you think there's any 182 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: value in elite Pittsburgh stack? You know, best bowlers have 183 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: their you know, eye focused on that right now. 184 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, the best ball thing. 185 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 3: I understand, because you do want to pivot away from 186 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 3: what is Chalky sometimes and. 187 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: I get that. 188 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 3: For me, it's like Jeremy Bernard, the young guy in Dynasty. 189 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 3: I've been doing a lot of Dynasty drafts. Those rookie 190 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 3: drafts and he's going in the second round, and I 191 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 3: think that's fair because I think he's talented. But Aaron 192 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 3: Rodgers hasn't had the greatest track record of working really 193 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 3: well with these young receivers. He tends to have a 194 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 3: very long learning curve and a very short leash with 195 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 3: these guys. So I'm staying away from Jeremy Bernard for 196 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 3: a redraft. Like I said, maybe I'll dabble in best Ball, 197 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 3: but it's really Michael Pittman or bust. And I just 198 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 3: hope that Mike McCarthy is able to dial up a 199 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 3: heavier passing game that makes some of this seem foolish 200 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 3: to look back on right now, But that's still just hope. 201 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 2: It's not really a real I don't. 202 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: Think, man. I don't think there's a better point to make. 203 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: I want to move on after that. The learning curve 204 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: point with Rogers and the youngsters is huge. Plus can 205 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: that offense really carry three pass catchers? I don't know. 206 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: I only mentioned because Bernard's getting a lot of love, 207 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: which tends to happen with rookies. It's the end of Bay, 208 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: which means it's time to get crazy for these youngsters 209 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: and again, I don't mean to knock them. They might 210 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: be fine. Next big news note, I mean, if this 211 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: is not like the eye roll of the century wide 212 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: receiver on the Chiefs, Rashie Rice to be jailed for 213 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: probation violation. He'll miss OTAs and mini camp after knee surgery. 214 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: So there's like a little one to two skdoo did 215 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: a little left right punch. Here's the news. Recovery for 216 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: the procedures expected to take two months, which sets them 217 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: up for a return to football activities just in time 218 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: for the start of training camp. As always, Jake, nothing 219 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: to worry about. Don't worry, guys, it's okay. That's assuming 220 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: the fourth year pro is able to rehab properly whilst 221 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: while serving his sentence. I mean, there are so many 222 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: uncertainties here. One, he's going off at ADP twenty four. 223 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: I think we can figuret that he'll absolutely drop. So 224 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: let's start there, Jake, is there a price in where 225 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: that you'd be interested in Rashie Rice. Let's try out 226 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: to roll eyes anymore than I already did. 227 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 3: I will keep my eyes focused straight ahead as I 228 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 3: say this. I won't even consider him until round four. 229 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 3: That's the very first time that I would even look 230 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 3: in his direction, and it would there would have to 231 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 3: be a lot of things that go right from now 232 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 3: until the start of season when I start to get 233 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 3: to the point where I'm going to be drafting more 234 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 3: close to the season. If you're doing it right now, 235 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 3: I'm not even looking probably until round five at this 236 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 3: current moment. It's a matter of how many It's not 237 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 3: even just what's going to happen with his rehab, John 238 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 3: And yeah, can he rehab easily in that thirty day 239 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 3: span for jail, which seems to be a crucial time 240 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 3: span for his recovery. 241 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. 242 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: It's not the ritz Carlton. 243 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 3: He's not going to have access to all the full 244 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 3: rehab equipment and trainers and all that that he would otherwise. 245 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 3: So that is a concern. But also, and maybe I'm 246 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 3: overthinking this, I'm almost more concerned about what's potentially the 247 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 3: next thing that could happen. 248 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 2: Now, this is a series of events for this guy. 249 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 3: I know, we can make the argument that this infraction 250 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 3: was a small one. 251 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: It was a probation thing. 252 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 3: You know, it was marijuana usage, and you can say 253 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 3: maybe it was an extreme penalty for him, but it happened, 254 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 3: and he also knew that was part of the deal 255 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 3: and it still happened. So it just feels like one 256 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 3: negative decision after another with this guy, and I don't 257 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 3: want to have to deal with the headaches. Maybe in 258 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 3: season of is he gonna do something else that negatively 259 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 3: impacts his ability to be on the field. So that's 260 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 3: why I say, even starting at round four, as we 261 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 3: get closer, it's still gonna make me nervous, but I'll 262 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 3: at least start to consider it. I probably will just 263 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 3: avoid him. 264 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: This is me. 265 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 3: Talking big, like I would even draft him in round 266 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 3: four or round five, and I probably won't even do it. John, 267 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 3: If do you have a threshold in mind right now. 268 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: Where you do it is to push him down where 269 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: I'll have exactly zero percent. Just I have no confidence 270 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 1: in all this stuff bothers me. The Mahomes question was 271 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: like I had one eyebrow up and now he has 272 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: his own issue lower body, twitchy player who needs to 273 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: create instant separation with speedbursts. These are all things that 274 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: you know, take time to recover from. If they ever 275 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: come back, then you have I don't want to talk 276 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: bad about people, but you know what At the very least, 277 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: it's an objective and quantifiable failure of discipline, and if 278 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: you want to make that part of your analysis, I 279 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: think that's fair. The person who no, I don't think 280 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 1: the infraction itself is jailable or even worthy of suspension. However, 281 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: you know the rules on thin ice. It would have 282 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: been a good time to show your organization, your team 283 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: meets yourself that you could keep it clean, keep it 284 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: between the lines, take it serious for whatever it is 285 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: ninety days or whatever it is. So yeah, I don't 286 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: know if they have kettlebells or parachute training, you know, 287 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: in the county lock up, like who knows. So there's 288 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: just way too much going off for me. I'm not interested. 289 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: Oh man, if if the pick starts with a five, 290 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: meaning if we're into the fifties, maybe I will capitulate 291 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: because the potential still is tremendous when it matters the most. 292 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: At the end of the season. The reports on the 293 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: homes are really good. Apparently he's out like swinging golf 294 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: clubs on Instagram or something, but everyone says he looks 295 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: really you know, he looks good and he's on track. 296 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: So if he's gonna be back to full strength in 297 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: the double digit weeks. Maybe Rice is enticing, but I 298 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: don't know. And then you have the whole thing if 299 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: you're even okay with drafting these terrible people. All right, 300 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: last news note, it's out of Atlanta, and I think 301 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: the question right the headline would be how many quarterbacks 302 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: do you have? Jake? When you have two? Right? They 303 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: brought in to U two. I'm doing air quotes for 304 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: the audio people to back up Michael Pennix, except Tua 305 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: is going ADP twoh eight and Penis is going at 306 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: QB two thirteen. When asked about splitting first team reps 307 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: at falcon OTAs head coach Kevin Stebanski said, and I quote, 308 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: it's all very intentional. Well, that's a relief to know 309 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: that he meant to put the quarterback back there. Jake, 310 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. This is all of the kind of 311 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: coach speak that worries me. We don't know who's gonna 312 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: be the QB. What do you think about the Atlanta situation? 313 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: Do you think there's big value here? Do you draft 314 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: them both in let's say it's like a super flex league. 315 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: Let's say it's a super flex Best Bowl League. How 316 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: does it impact the Falcons talking about the quarterback game 317 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: there in the dirty dirty it bothers me. 318 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 3: I mean, this is one of those things that I 319 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 3: try not to get so up in arms about because 320 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 3: it's early. We're still in May and we're talking about 321 00:15:54,600 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 3: voluntary OTAs. Who's getting how many first team reps? This 322 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 3: seems to track actually, which what I had thought was 323 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 3: going to happen with this team. You bring in another 324 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 3: left handed quarterback super cheap, you're barely paying to anything. 325 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 3: You have still a little bit unproven young quarterback, and 326 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 3: Michael Pennix. It's not the worst decision to just say 327 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 3: we're gonna let you guys fight it out now. They 328 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 3: can say one thing that he was gonna be backing 329 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 3: him up, and that's maybe because you want to instill 330 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 3: some confidence in the younger guy. Or you can have 331 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 3: them split reps because you truly want to see what 332 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 3: you have in this quarterback that you've never coached before. 333 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 3: I just I don't like either of these guys. I 334 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 3: haven't liked either of these guys from a drafting perspective, 335 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 3: So this whole split not split thing, I don't really care. 336 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 3: All I care about is can both of these guys 337 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 3: make Drake London a sustainable fantasy asset, and I think. 338 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: They never can. 339 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 2: I think they both can. 340 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 3: So I'm completely fine with whoever gets the split because 341 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 3: somebody else is gonna be starting them for their fantasy team. 342 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: Okay, so I guess let me kick it back too quick. 343 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: So even if you're not in love with the QB situation, 344 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: it's not preventing you from paying up the premium, and 345 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: that I think is a big question, right, you need 346 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: to have confidence in the engine of the offense if 347 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna have two players going in the top whatever 348 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: eighteen overall, right, Bijon consensus number one or number two pick. 349 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: London is not going to get out of the second 350 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: round of any twelve teams drafts this year. So okay, 351 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: so you feel confident. I was actually thinking about that 352 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: with the best Bowl brain. Of course, right now, I 353 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: don't think I'm going with the quarterbacks, but maybe it 354 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: actually gives me some confidence to go further with London. 355 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: Worried that maybe if Pennix was bad or gets hurt, 356 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: you know, he goes down with the ship talking about 357 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: Drake London and maybe even Bijeon where hey having a 358 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: viable quarterback. Whatever you think about two, I think at 359 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: the very least he's a fantastic backup. Right if he 360 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: ends up as the two, I think he's a perfectly 361 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: crimulent backup in the end. So that should keep the 362 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: rest of the pieces afloat. What do you think about that? 363 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 1: Kind of a milk toast, kind of cop it out 364 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: a little bit, but what do you think about that 365 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: where maybe one plus one is three somehow? 366 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 3: Well, First of all, excellent use of the word cromulate. 367 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 3: I haven't heard anybody use cromulate, And yes, but I 368 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 3: do think that, yeah, what you're trying to project at 369 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 3: some level of confidence into the really high draft picks, 370 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 3: especially in your fantasy drafts, Drake London, I think it's 371 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 3: okay to go heavily target now Kyle Pitts. When we 372 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 3: start talking about Kyle Pitts, I think it's a different 373 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 3: discussion John. That's the guy where I just don't like 374 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 3: Pits in particular. 375 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 2: Anyways. 376 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 3: I think he was propped up massively by the games 377 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 3: that he got to play without Drake London last year. 378 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 3: I don't think the quarterback thing is an issue for him. 379 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 3: I don't think the quarterback thing is an issue for 380 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 3: Bjeon Robinson for different reasons. Bijeon's going to be Bejon, So like, 381 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 3: I don't think that the split between the quarterbacks is 382 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 3: the thing that we need to worry about for the 383 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 3: ancillary pieces. It's just if you want to draft these 384 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 3: quarterbacks are not from my perspective. 385 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't unless they make If there's the 386 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: definitive clean need Panicx's guy, we're gonna go with him 387 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: as the one and two is the backup, then I 388 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: might draft him later on because that uncertainty. Again, if 389 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: you're using super flex brain right now, we're best ball 390 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 1: stuff to get who could be the number one quarterback 391 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: for what we think is gonna be a winning team 392 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: with consensus, fantastic elite pieces around him. That smells like 393 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: a value to me, Especially with Tua going first. I 394 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: think I think that's misplaced. Not like I have a 395 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: strong take. The one thing I do is, and I 396 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: was thinking about this guy was getting too deep into 397 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: the wieze between number one and number two overall, Gibbs 398 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: and Bijon and Tua. You know when he put h 399 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: in the history books, the way he throws to the 400 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: running back, and imagine if Bijeon takes on that pass load, 401 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: he'd probably be the a one with a bullet, if 402 00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 1: that's possible to leave a guy like gives them the 403 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 1: So some interesting stuff, news and notes. We'll keep it up, 404 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: you know, we'll keep on top of everything. Let's switch 405 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: focus real quick. Let me shift gears and change my 406 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: spreadsheet tab. Let me take a quick break. I'm gonna 407 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: get right back to you, Jake. Hold on, all right, 408 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: let's pick it back up. I wanted to get into 409 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: some strength of schedule stuff, and I'm not going to 410 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: bury my own need here, Jake. I'm a quank guy, 411 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: I'm a better I'm a handicapper. I can't get into 412 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: the schedule stuff. We have such a difficult time predicting 413 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: Sunday on Saturday. The best handicappers, analyst, pundits, coaches, GMS players, 414 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: human beings cannot predict a single score twelve hours before kickoff, 415 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: let alone fifteen, sixteen, seventeen weeks out. So I'd like 416 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: to see the strength stuff, but maybe only because I 417 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: think it may influence markets. Now, I hope that didn't 418 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: burst your bubble. If you have a strong take, I'm 419 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: willing to concede talk to you about strength to schedule 420 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: even just to start how you digest it, what you're 421 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: looking for. 422 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have a strong opinion on strength to 423 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 3: schedule because there's so much year to year variance in 424 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 3: the NFL. Even teams that we can just maybe check 425 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 3: mark off as being bad. We're just like, well, it's 426 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 3: the Browns, the Browns are going to be bad. Well, 427 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 3: if it's the Jets, the Jets are going to be bad. 428 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 3: They could surprise us. There is massive overhauls happening with 429 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 3: these teams every offseason, So I don't want to be 430 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 3: so arrogant as to just be able to copy and 431 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 3: paste last year to this year. What I will say 432 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 3: is the strength and schedule stuff, for me is a 433 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 3: tiebreaker sometimes for some of these very closely valued players, 434 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 3: especially if you just look at like the first half 435 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 3: of the year's strength to schedule. I think that's more 436 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 3: important than the season as a whole, because I just think, again, 437 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 3: there's too much variance, too much injuries happen to be 438 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,959 Speaker 3: able to look at a week fifteen, this is what 439 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 3: we expect to happen in Week fifteen, that's so far 440 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 3: out John, we don't know, Like you said, we don't 441 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 3: know day to day, week to week most of the time. 442 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 3: But some of these, you know teams, you go, well, 443 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 3: they look like they really have an easy strength to schedule, 444 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 3: you know. I mean, I look at some of these 445 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 3: and like the Giants, for example, it's like kinda thank 446 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 3: god that the Giants look like they're going to be 447 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 3: okay in the first half of the of the year 448 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 3: from an offensive perspective, because they're playing without Malik Neighbors 449 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 3: potentially potentially for a couple of games to open up. 450 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 3: And I go, okay, they're playing the Cowboys, the Titans, 451 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: the Cardinals, the Commanders in that stretch. They have good 452 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 3: to great offenses that group, and the Giants defense is 453 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 3: presumably bad, So I go, okay, maybe a guy like 454 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 3: Isaiah Likely, who we've talked about a lot, as like 455 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 3: a tight end sleeper. It makes me even more confident 456 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 3: to go out and get him. But that's the kind 457 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 3: of stuff that I get into the weeds with. Not 458 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 3: a lot of this matters that much for my view. 459 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: There you go and totally redeem yourself, right, That's exactly 460 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Now. I had to go looking 461 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: for the Giants. They weren't. I didn't have them listed, 462 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: you know, for d chess. Here I listed the best 463 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: five in the bottom five, the Giants leaned in the middle. 464 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: And what you did is my favorite thing is add 465 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: nuanced and context of things that need them. And that's 466 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: a great pick a team that might kind of fall 467 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: by the wayside, and maybe as long as they're not 468 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: facing the most difficult teams you can get out in 469 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: front of picks at me, not say Iffy, but we 470 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: think we're taking a bit of a chance on So 471 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 1: I actually do like that. Now I want to I 472 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: like to expose my old scars, you know, for the public, 473 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: and but it's pertinent to the conversation and it has 474 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: to do with how unpredictable these things are. I had 475 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: to go back on the year because you know, we 476 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: mentally blocked these things out. So it's twenty twenty three 477 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: and I remember it. I remember very clearly because you 478 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: mentioned Cleveland and all of the best ball bros and 479 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: all of the schedule bros were going, you know, nuts 480 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: over who is indoors and who is playing who, and 481 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: to make sure you needed to make sure to avoid 482 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 1: the Jets and the Browns. They'd be playing in Super 483 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: Bowl week, Fantasy super Bowl week, and you couldn't possibly 484 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: you must avoid this at all costs. That game ended 485 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: thirty seven to twenty and was a fantasy circus. I'm 486 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: looking at it right now. Flacco went for over three 487 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: hundred and three. It was It was an absolute circus. 488 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: And like the game that you needed to win all 489 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: of the monies, you know, Trancibion out of Mantzi out 490 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 1: of Monster Game. It was just nuts. Yeah, Brecee Hall 491 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: went from like one hundred and ninety total yards. He 492 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: had twelve catches and two scores. Just really crazy stuff. 493 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: And I know all these things happened in the vacuum 494 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: and their independent events, but that's really my point is 495 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: I like how you did it. Don't go too crazy, 496 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: look at it, try and discern something without over overreaction, 497 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: and have it just you know, add a layer to 498 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: an already tough decision that I think is just the 499 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: perfect way to do this stuff. Now, how about the 500 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: teams that I mentioned, You know, at the top of 501 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: the bottom, so the hardest schedules, and this is by 502 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: win percentage. Last year, what you poked the very obvious 503 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: hole in we don't know a ton about defenses in 504 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: particular don't necessarily tend to carry over, which I find 505 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: very weird. In baseball, it's pitching. You would think that works. 506 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: I would think defense would be the thing that sticks right. 507 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: It's you're imposing the will of stopping. But it proves 508 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: mathematically to not be the case. Chicago Bears are at 509 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: the top and now have a quick note. So Chicago, 510 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: I really don't have much. I think they play a 511 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: balanced offense. I really wouldn't be too worried. Miami was next. 512 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: I think you have to worry rookie quarterback lack of weapons, 513 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: but also probably a parenthesise wheels up for Devid h 514 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: Chan because if they're gonna be playing from negative game scripts, 515 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: he's gonna catch one hundred and twenty balls. Then third 516 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: is Arizona. Hardest schedule for Arizona. I put a green 517 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 1: light for everybody because we saw what a fantasy circus 518 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: the desert turns into when Arizona is behind. So I 519 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: think those maybe places where you're saying, oh, maybe we 520 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,959 Speaker 1: do like the Cardinal offense because they're going to be 521 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: terrible predictably. So what do you think about that maybe 522 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: do you think I missed anything with the Bears? How 523 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: do you digest the toughest schedules? Take it wherever you like? 524 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 3: Yep, the toughest schedule thing is again more useful in 525 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 3: my opinion, front loaded to look at the front half 526 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,239 Speaker 3: of the season and say, Okay, how hard is this 527 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 3: thing truly going to be? 528 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 2: And you're not wrong? 529 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 3: Like there are now you looked at it differently with 530 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 3: like Arizona. For me, I actually went different and I said, 531 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 3: Arizona has a really hard strength of schedule. We know 532 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 3: that last year they were passing way more above average 533 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 3: than even the most pass heavy teams because they had 534 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 3: a decimated backfield, They had injuries kind of dealing with 535 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 3: you know, some of these players going out, Marv Harrison Junior, etc. 536 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 3: So when when Jacoby Brissett's passing forty times a game, 537 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 3: you go, well, that's fine for fantasy. So I understand 538 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 3: the playing from behind concept, but I honestly think that 539 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 3: they're just good enough now to where they're not going 540 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 3: to be playing from behind and get you the garbage 541 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 3: time that you want. So I'm actually staying away from 542 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 3: like Jacoby Brissett certainly is not going to be somebody 543 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 3: that I'm going after. But he's got his others. He's 544 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 3: holding out with a contract thing potentially, and there's some 545 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 3: other beij flags we have to worry about with him. 546 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 3: But it actually gives me pause about drafting Jeremiah Love. 547 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 3: I'd been really high on Jeremiah Love, thinking I know 548 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 3: he's a rookie, but I'll take him in, you know, 549 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 3: the second round and be happy. 550 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 2: I'm kind of scooted off of that just a little 551 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 2: bit with the hard. 552 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 3: Strength of schedule to start, because I don't know that 553 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 3: he's gonna be as dominant as you want and need 554 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 3: him to be right away. I don't care again, if 555 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 3: he's gonna get me a bunch of points in week twelve, 556 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 3: Am I gonna be patient enough to hold him and 557 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 3: not want to trade him away before that even happens. 558 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: I don't. 559 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 2: I don't think so, So I'm probably gonna not touch 560 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 2: him until round three. 561 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,239 Speaker 1: Now. Yeah, there's a couple of ways to look at that, 562 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: and I don't think I don't think you're wrong. I 563 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: think it's a it's the rational and very strong counter 564 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 1: to what I'm saying. Right One side of the coin 565 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: is negative game scripts and lots of passing. The other 566 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: side of the coin is defense is not so binary. 567 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 1: As you know, facing a good defense means behind points. 568 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: Sometimes facing a good defense, what does it really mean? 569 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: It means lots of disguise pressures, It means safety is 570 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: coming out of the backfield, and it means lots of 571 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: deceptive schematics that are very difficult for rookies to pick 572 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: up on. Right. These are all these are the reasons 573 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: why rookies fail. I've I've been joking about taking all 574 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: these backup veterans because they know where to stand. They 575 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: you know, and people laugh about that, but it's legit 576 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: the truth. You it's something that you were kind of 577 00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: hinting towards with Aaron Rodgers. The second you miss it 578 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: alignment or you miss a rotational call, you know, left split. 579 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: If he wants you over on the right hand side 580 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: to pick up a pressure coming that way and you 581 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: don't get it, your time is short here, Parter. So 582 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: I'm not pushing these guys up, and I just kind 583 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: of cold on the Cardinals. Maybe they'll bad strength to schedule. 584 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: The high strength of schedule in the pants and gets 585 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: you back on Michael Wilson. You could tell I've been 586 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: trying to target and identify late wideouts that could pop 587 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: because I've been more focused on getting my running backs early. 588 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: So if you could have been drafting and I'm trying 589 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: to get the muscle memory going, giving up good advice 590 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: for everyone, but stuff that works, you can't say, well, 591 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: take all the early whiteouts and all the early running backs. 592 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: You can't have both those things. Yeah, it'd be a 593 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: wonderful world if we could, but we can't do that. 594 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: So I've been looking for guys like that. How about 595 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: the flip side now, So off the schedules, I've got Cleveland. 596 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: They're gonna need this need to work out pretty good 597 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: for these duds like Cleveland Orleans, which I like because 598 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: I was kind of high on them. So when I 599 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: see that maybe the soft one, maybe I am acting 600 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: on it. Where a guy like Shuck, I think second 601 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: year I'm expecting some growth wouldn't hurt to be facing 602 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: Bay defenses. And the third was Cincinnati. Who I mean, 603 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: if you were wheels up on Cincinnati anyway, you should 604 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: have been. One note I had on Cincinnati that I 605 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: found kept popping up was the wide receiver three situation. Right, 606 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: everyone is very high on chasing Higgins, as they should be, 607 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: but like we've seen Yoshivas kind of do some work. 608 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: He goes mostly undrafted, and if they're gonna be a 609 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: thirty eight point a week team, again, I think everybody 610 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: could eat. So what do you think about those teams Cleveland, 611 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: New Orleans, Cincy or anything else you have to add 612 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: about the weakest schedules. 613 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 3: The Bengals is really interesting, and I think you're right. 614 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 3: I think also the other thing that we see sometimes 615 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 3: with these offenses, when they really get the chance to 616 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 3: dominate their opposition, which could very well happen with Cincinnati 617 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 3: especially proven that their defense should theoretically be better after 618 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 3: the investments that they made. Then you do start to 619 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 3: see towards the end of games some of these other 620 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 3: wide receivers just get more involved. Jamar Chase doesn't have 621 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 3: to go out there in the fourth quarter when they're 622 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 3: up by twenty points and do what he does. He 623 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 3: might want to just save himself, or the coaches rather 624 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 3: would probably want to save him a little bit. So 625 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 3: we even in situations like that, you could get some 626 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 3: garbage time from Yoshivas. I'm also looking now at Chase Brown, 627 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,479 Speaker 3: which is somebody who's maybe just been kind of a 628 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 3: name in the cloud. He's just been kind of this 629 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 3: sure whatever. He seems fine, at least from my perspective. 630 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 3: But now I'm going, well, if they have this easy 631 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 3: of a schedule, I should probably be. 632 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 2: Giving him better shrift. 633 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 3: I should be bumping him up just a little bit 634 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 3: more because they didn't add any real competition for him. 635 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 3: So Chase Brown is somebody who stands out to me 636 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 3: from the Bengals. I also do think, yeah, the Saints 637 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 3: should be fine. I was already heavily invested in Dialer Shuck, 638 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 3: so this was more of a s I have relief 639 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 3: when I saw this, And with the Browns again, I 640 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 3: look at the running back and I say, Okay, Quinn 641 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 3: Shawn Judkins. I've never been a huge believer, just because 642 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 3: I think his pass catching abilities are capped, his touchdown 643 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 3: scoring opportunities are a little capped. But the strength the 644 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 3: schedule does help that. So he is somebody that I'm 645 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 3: more comfortable drafting in you know, round four, round five, 646 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 3: than I was a month ago. 647 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: Love every bit of that. That was a really great 648 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: tease for next week. As we wrap up this edition 649 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: of the f FW. Jacob, it's the injury stuff because 650 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: Judkins is another one of those guys. He dissocated his 651 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: right ankle and fractured his fibula, So next week when 652 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: you'll be like, maybe we'll do it next week, if 653 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: not really coming soon all the injury guys during the year, 654 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: and how to treat him. So from Big John and 655 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: Cheek and all the lovely people here at f FW, 656 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: thank you and we'll see you next week. Have a 657 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: great weekend, everybody. Take care 658 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 2: You