WEBVTT - Slam Dunk Coaches

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the solid verbal ll that for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a man, I'm for.

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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<v Speaker 3>Edo Steak is that woo woom?

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<v Speaker 1>And then and Tye.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome back to the salid Verbo boys and girls. My

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<v Speaker 4>name is ty Hildebrand. That fine gentleman over there is

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<v Speaker 4>always back in his humble abode in the heart of

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<v Speaker 4>the Midwest, Chicago, Illinois. Dan Rubert Steed, Sir, how are you.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm good.

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<v Speaker 3>I just took a shower, as did you, And I

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<v Speaker 3>think we do our best shows when we are refreshed

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<v Speaker 3>and clean. And the shower is also a really good

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<v Speaker 3>place to brainstorm and to think on things. And so

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<v Speaker 3>I'm always so glad to get to California and record

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<v Speaker 3>and do all sorts of fun things in cal I'm not,

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<v Speaker 3>actually I'm not.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a lie.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not happy to record in California. It's a mess

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<v Speaker 3>in there. I do it on a card table. But

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<v Speaker 3>I'm always happy to get there to do California things.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm always happy to return because I have my

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<v Speaker 3>home setup and I truly feel like myself not in Illinois.

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<v Speaker 3>But in this specific room, with this specific equipment, with

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<v Speaker 3>all of my dongles, with all of my adapters, with

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<v Speaker 3>my computer, and everything's set up just so so this

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<v Speaker 3>If it's not a good show, it's purely intellectual because

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<v Speaker 3>I'm dumb and not creative. If it is a good show,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a large reason why.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, look, you told me what the concept for this

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<v Speaker 4>show is going to be. Mm hmmm. We're returning to

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<v Speaker 4>our roots in a sense because we came up with

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<v Speaker 4>the concept about five minutes before we hit the record button.

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<v Speaker 4>We've done this pretty much throughout the entire run here

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<v Speaker 4>of the solid verbal. It's kind of come up with

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<v Speaker 4>things on the fly. Yeah, this was your creation. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>we're talking about dunks today. We are, which is a

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<v Speaker 4>great word. It's a great word to say, yunk. It

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<v Speaker 4>has a lot of different meanings, a lot of different uses.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously the basketball dunking, the dunk tank. You can dunk

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<v Speaker 4>somebody in a pool like manually, you can dunk food

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<v Speaker 4>like dunk fries into some or you can dunk oreos,

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<v Speaker 4>or obviously you can dunk in football. You can dink

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<v Speaker 4>and dunk. Right, that's a strategy that you could employ.

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<v Speaker 4>But this sort of the timing of the show coincides

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<v Speaker 4>with the NBA Dunk Contest, which I watched zero seconds

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<v Speaker 4>up say and heard it was a disaster. Same Nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm still a dunking enthusiast. I am still somebody who

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<v Speaker 4>lowered the rim on my driveway basket growing up to

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<v Speaker 4>like you know, it depended when I was super young,

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<v Speaker 4>six feet seven feet, eight feet whatever and did like

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<v Speaker 4>my d brown cover my eyes. You know, I would

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<v Speaker 4>try to replicate all of those things. And I had

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<v Speaker 4>little brothers and I would just dunk on them all

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<v Speaker 4>day long. I'm not I don't love dunking on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that idea is kind of pass and stupid.

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<v Speaker 4>But nonetheless, once again, I love a good dunk. I

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<v Speaker 4>love a good dunk, and I want to evaluate the

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<v Speaker 4>jobs and potential of twenty twenty one first year head

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<v Speaker 4>co Your Shane Bemers, your Andy Avili your is that

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<v Speaker 4>plural for Andy Alos?

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<v Speaker 3>I believe that's his preference, that's his family's preference. And

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<v Speaker 3>across the across the country, Blake Anderson, guys that had

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<v Speaker 3>a year one situation Bert Beelima and not just figure

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<v Speaker 3>out how they did and what they did, and where

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<v Speaker 3>they progressed their program and where perhaps they took a

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<v Speaker 3>step back based on what the previous guy did, but

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<v Speaker 3>also just how high they can fly and just what

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<v Speaker 3>they would do, like Michael Scott.

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<v Speaker 2>You have no idea how high I can fly?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>What they would do in the open court with the ball,

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<v Speaker 3>not necessarily dunking, but if they're going for a fundamentally

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<v Speaker 3>sound layup, is that they're ceiling in terms of how

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<v Speaker 3>high they can fly tomahawk jam thinking they can dunk

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<v Speaker 3>but breaking it terribly and spraining an ankle.

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<v Speaker 4>What what is the the.

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<v Speaker 3>Literal and figurative height that we believe these coaches can

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<v Speaker 3>fly if everything adds up the way that they're intending.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I like this. I like this a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm already looking at the list of first year coaches

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<v Speaker 4>trying to figure out what Lance Ipold's doing. If he's

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<v Speaker 4>just got open floor in front of him, Sure, what

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<v Speaker 4>is Lance Liepold, Kansas doing? Open floor, all gas, no breaks?

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<v Speaker 1>What's he doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you go to basketball camp? By the way, No,

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<v Speaker 3>was that ever a thing you did. You never went

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<v Speaker 3>to basketball. You never even tried to get better at

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<v Speaker 3>basketball any on any level.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I you know what I was When I played

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<v Speaker 4>youth basketball. I was the guy who went and stood

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<v Speaker 4>in the corner and said pass me the ball, and

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<v Speaker 4>every now and again i'd hit a shines. My career

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<v Speaker 4>best for points and organized basketball was eight. I had

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<v Speaker 4>one eight point game. Oh that was the best I

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<v Speaker 4>ever did. I wasn't a rebounder. I wasn't a dribbler.

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<v Speaker 4>I was a good glue guy like I got along

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<v Speaker 4>with everybody on the team. I like to play defense.

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<v Speaker 4>I often went for the steal, but rarely got And

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<v Speaker 4>I just was not a scorer. I was more of

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<v Speaker 4>a more of just kind of like there to build

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<v Speaker 4>tea morale.

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<v Speaker 1>I was not good at basketball.

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<v Speaker 3>You sound more like glue means you're doing the little

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<v Speaker 3>things and making effort. If you're standing in the corner

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<v Speaker 3>not scoring, I'm not sure what you're holding around. I'd

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<v Speaker 3>run around, but my shot of choice was from the corner.

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<v Speaker 3>What I did in the open floor, and Mama h

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<v Speaker 3>will attest to this open floor. Nobody in front of me.

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<v Speaker 3>Went up there, bricked it on.

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<v Speaker 4>The first try.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not a dunk, this is a layup.

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<v Speaker 4>Got the rebound, put it in on the second attempt,

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<v Speaker 4>only to find out that the reason the floor was

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<v Speaker 4>open is because it was my own basket. I did

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<v Speaker 4>that off the.

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<v Speaker 3>Tip, off my own goal and own basket.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>No, The reason I asked about basketball camp is I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna set the standard here. The standard here is obviously

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<v Speaker 3>Nick Saban in the open floor doing whatever he wants,

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<v Speaker 3>like the greatest, don you know, doctor j Michael Jordan whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>I just remember in basketball camp, we would watch videos

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<v Speaker 3>while eating pizza and taters. That was the chosen food midday,

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<v Speaker 3>playing sports all to.

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<v Speaker 4>The two food groups.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure shout out Jack Hayley, rest in peace and his

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<v Speaker 3>camp at seasun cal State Northridge. But we'd watch these

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<v Speaker 3>VHS tapes of Michael Jordan in slow motion. They licensed music,

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<v Speaker 3>and it would just be Michael Jordan in slow motion,

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<v Speaker 3>dunking onlike zil' I was gonna sae asil junis Olgasciz,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm screwing up my my generations, but dunking on like

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<v Speaker 3>Kevin Willis with Berlin playing in the background.

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<v Speaker 4>So like the das, were they trying to show you

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<v Speaker 4>how to do the dunks? Or was it just kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like no motivation as you were eating your junk food.

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<v Speaker 3>Just buying time, just buying time to get these kids

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<v Speaker 3>out of the camp whatever. So that's so, that's the

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<v Speaker 3>the absolute apex is the Berlin take my breath Away,

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<v Speaker 3>Michael Jordan, visual and everything else. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>the bottom the baseline is like Philip Seymour Hoffman, and

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<v Speaker 3>along came Polly where he's just sweating and bricking and

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<v Speaker 3>yelling and confident with no reason Kobe. So that's I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know somewhere. Those are your bookends of this game.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're taking you have a list of first year coaches.

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<v Speaker 3>I looked into the analytics of where these teams improved

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<v Speaker 3>and fell off in terms of points for driving, offense

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<v Speaker 3>and defense. I also looked at how these teams finished

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<v Speaker 3>their regular season. Right, A lot of how we can

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<v Speaker 3>judge first year head coaches, which isn't entirely fair, can

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<v Speaker 3>be looked at in terms of how a team finished,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, how the motivation kept up. I know we

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<v Speaker 3>have housekeeping to go to, but those are the things

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to look at, and then we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>discuss their open floor ceiling.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeh, of course you have no idea how high I

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<v Speaker 2>can fly?

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<v Speaker 4>Guico Dan. Indeed, let's get into our game, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>So once again we are looking at I guess freshman coaches, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and the job that they did when they were merely freshmen.

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<v Speaker 3>Compromise, Sorry, that's my that's my singing.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So so there isn't a standard rubric ahead of where

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<v Speaker 3>we are going with the visual of them, what they're

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<v Speaker 3>doing in the open floor, attempting to dunk or finish emphatically.

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<v Speaker 3>But you have a list, We can have whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 4>I have a list.

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<v Speaker 3>This is my disclaimer. It's an especially or was an

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<v Speaker 3>especially difficult time to be a first year head coach,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think it will be for the time being

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<v Speaker 3>because of the timing of early signing day, because of

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<v Speaker 3>the number of transfers now because of eligibility coming off

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<v Speaker 3>of COVID. With the added eligibility, so there's all sorts

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<v Speaker 3>of different roster wrinkles that didn't really exist about five

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<v Speaker 3>years ago.

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<v Speaker 4>Roster wrinkles is going to be the name of our

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<v Speaker 4>emo band. Yeah, thank you. Oh I like that.

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<v Speaker 3>So with that caveat, with that disclaimer, obviously there's always

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<v Speaker 3>a reason, generally not a good one, why a new

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<v Speaker 3>coach is hired. Sometimes the previous guy did so well

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<v Speaker 3>at a place set up for success that they had

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<v Speaker 3>to hire a new guy. Not the case all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>So we are going to look out a number of

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<v Speaker 3>these guys replaced fired coaches, and there's a reason. So

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<v Speaker 3>you can't fully judge anybody on year one and sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>even year two. By year three you generally can. We've

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<v Speaker 3>already done a year two show. So now here is

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<v Speaker 3>our freshman evaluation for some reason, with how they would

0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:20.839
<v Speaker 3>do in the open floor dunking the ball. Where should

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<v Speaker 3>we start typing?

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<v Speaker 4>I want to start with Tennessee. I want to start

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<v Speaker 4>with Josh Hipel. Yes, Josh Hipel came in. He replaced

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<v Speaker 4>Jeremy Prewitt fairly late in the cycle. You'll recall the

0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:39.000
<v Speaker 4>prue and stuff exploded. Tennessee had gone three and seven

0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:43.520
<v Speaker 4>in twenty twenty, just wasn't a good campaign. Danny White

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<v Speaker 4>came up to Tennessee. He hired his guy in Josh

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<v Speaker 4>Hipel away from UCF. Tennessee went seven and six last season,

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<v Speaker 4>lost the Bowl game seven to five. Regular season second

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<v Speaker 4>order wins, which is a statistic that I like to

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<v Speaker 4>look at just to I don't know get Bill C's

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<v Speaker 4>take on things. Second order wins had Tennessee as an

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<v Speaker 4>eight win team, Okay, Josh Hypel. Tennessee is a really interesting,

0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:13.920
<v Speaker 4>I guess, starter case for us here because that is

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<v Speaker 4>a situation that I was not all that excited about.

0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:19.280
<v Speaker 4>I didn't really know what to make of that hire

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<v Speaker 4>to begin with. Maybe it's because I didn't know enough

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<v Speaker 4>about Josh Hypel. I don't know, but I think year

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<v Speaker 4>one was very promising. As I look at the SP

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<v Speaker 4>plus final standings from Bill c He's got Tennessee as

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<v Speaker 4>a top ten team. So I think of the way

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<v Speaker 4>that our thinking has evolved on Tennessee throughout the course

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<v Speaker 4>of the last year, and for me, I've come a

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<v Speaker 4>long ways, a long ways towards accepting this program as

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<v Speaker 4>maybe one that is now on the straight and narrow

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<v Speaker 4>about to pop in twenty twenty two. And definitely, definitely,

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<v Speaker 4>definitely I think beyond a shadow of a doubt better

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<v Speaker 4>now than it was when he got there. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>oh absolutely. And it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>When you look at what Tennessee was able to do

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<v Speaker 3>this past year, it was not a luck thing. They

0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:11.520
<v Speaker 3>started off a little bit shaky, but it wasn't a

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<v Speaker 3>crazy turnover margin year. It wasn't constantly playing teams with

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<v Speaker 3>beat up quarterbacks or.

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<v Speaker 4>Something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was solid progress And when you look

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<v Speaker 3>at what Tennessee was able to do as it relates

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<v Speaker 3>to the twenty twenty year, which again grain of salt,

0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:27.640
<v Speaker 3>they had the number three most improved defense in the

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<v Speaker 3>country or excuse me, number three most improved offense when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to points per drive, which is not surprising

0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:35.480
<v Speaker 3>when you look at some of the fireworks that the

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<v Speaker 3>balls were able to generate. The defense was slightly worse

0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:43.600
<v Speaker 3>and with how they finished winning three or five competitive

0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:46.760
<v Speaker 3>for a stretch against Alabama, but ultimately the tide runaway,

0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:51.280
<v Speaker 3>not competitive against Georgia, but certainly the Kentucky win upon

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<v Speaker 3>further reflection, you know, certainly impressive. So I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>how you come away anything but encouraged. And now look

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<v Speaker 3>it's Hendon Hooker and he was kind of a pre formed,

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<v Speaker 3>successful quarterback coming in to Tennessee, and the portal didn't

0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:08.000
<v Speaker 3>wasn't considered to be started. I think Joe Milton won

0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:12.080
<v Speaker 3>Milton initially Joe Milton. Yeah, so things sort of course corrected.

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<v Speaker 3>In Knoxville, they have what I think was a top

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<v Speaker 3>twenty class, you know, in the first full Josh Hypel

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<v Speaker 3>class eighth in the SEC. They do have, or at

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<v Speaker 3>least in this class, a quarterback of the future. I

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<v Speaker 3>believe his name is Tavian Jackson from Indiana. So I

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<v Speaker 3>think there is if I'm going to look at this

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<v Speaker 3>in the dunk context, dunk context that Josh Hypel is

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<v Speaker 3>going to confidently.

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<v Speaker 4>With, especially how you look at how he throws the.

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<v Speaker 3>Ball downfield, confidently go up for and succeed in dunking.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not going to be the prettiest and most emphatic,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think he can clear rim. Absolutely can clear

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<v Speaker 3>rim and not make a fool of himself with all

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<v Speaker 3>eyes on him like you did.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you able to get rim? Were you ever able

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<v Speaker 4>to get rim when you jumped? I think like grazing rim.

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<v Speaker 4>Nothing that I would could ever do that would be

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<v Speaker 4>impressive to people, like because I'm taller than you too.

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<v Speaker 4>So I was probably about six feet in high school.

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<v Speaker 4>But with the ball in my hands, I was not

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<v Speaker 4>soaring over people. It was like running super hard, unencumbered,

0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:23.760
<v Speaker 4>holding nothing. I could maybe graze rim or at least

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<v Speaker 4>the bars supporting the rim coming down I could get

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<v Speaker 4>That was about my limit. I could get net. Look

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<v Speaker 4>at you, I could get net and that was exciting. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>of course, Josh Hipel, I think can aspire to greater heights.

0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:42.800
<v Speaker 4>There's a little bit of flash there, a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>of flash there in the way he conducts his offense.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we're going to see more of it in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty two. I'm excited about that. Yeah, I'm excited

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<v Speaker 4>about that. The interesting thing will be in this marketplace,

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<v Speaker 4>in this world, in a world if Tennessee is a

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<v Speaker 4>destination job for Josh Hipel in a world in which

0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:09.479
<v Speaker 4>destination jobs don't exist, and that can be a difficult

0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:12.680
<v Speaker 4>place to navigate that if he gets an offer at

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<v Speaker 4>a bigger place or a comparable place because he doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>have Tennessee roots obviously going back to his time at

0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:21.240
<v Speaker 4>Oklahoma that didn't work out, it will be interesting to

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<v Speaker 4>see if he carries them to an SEC East Division

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<v Speaker 4>winning place, if he's long for Knoxville. But that's a

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<v Speaker 4>terrific problem to have. Oh, if you're a Boll fan,

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<v Speaker 4>I see this situation as an aliop. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>talking about a dunk contest grade alioop where there's a

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<v Speaker 4>windmill or a behind the back or any kind of antics.

0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:49.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm talking game used alioop makes a break down the

0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:53.600
<v Speaker 4>baseline point guard throws it up, catches it mid flight

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<v Speaker 4>two handed dunk, so more of a specialized dunker, more

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<v Speaker 4>of a specialized dunker, but there when he needs to

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<v Speaker 4>be able to throw it down if he has to. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>not necessarily with the glitz and glamour that you'd expect

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<v Speaker 4>of a dunk contest, or even in the open floor

0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:12.000
<v Speaker 4>right right where you can do whatever you want. But

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<v Speaker 4>I just I see it as an efficient dunk here

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<v Speaker 4>a rim roller. Yeah maybe because and I didn't think

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<v Speaker 4>this up because I just heard about the game. But

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<v Speaker 4>efficiency really was the name of the game for this

0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:24.160
<v Speaker 4>Tennessee offense.

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<v Speaker 1>They're very efficient.

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<v Speaker 4>So I see him as an efficient two handed dunker,

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<v Speaker 4>somebody who could definitely get to those heights. The question is,

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<v Speaker 4>is a two handed dunk standard two handed dunk in

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<v Speaker 4>the open floor as an ALI loop? Is that enough

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<v Speaker 4>to get you over the hump of the Georgia Bulldogs

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<v Speaker 4>like you're not winning any dunk contests against.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it is. It is my opinion that Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 3>to whatever extent, even having been blown out by the Dogs,

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<v Speaker 3>have slightly or respectably closed the gap. It's still pretty wide.

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<v Speaker 3>It's still pretty wide. But what the SEC East has

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<v Speaker 3>needed with Florida's inconsistencies with South Carolina falling off the map,

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<v Speaker 3>with Kentucky looking good but kind of having a ceiling

0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:11.680
<v Speaker 3>because of some poor offenses before last season, and Eliam

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<v Speaker 3>Cohen's gone the East and the top of the East

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<v Speaker 3>not necessarily winning the East, but that top group in

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<v Speaker 3>the East has definitely kept a place warm for Tennessee. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>because nobody is necessarily claiming it right now alongside the

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<v Speaker 3>dogs with now Florida starting over, let's go over to Auburn.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, what worries me a little bit about Auburn in

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<v Speaker 4>light of recent circumstances. You've seen the clip where they

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<v Speaker 4>take sort of a normal peon somebody who can't jump

0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:50.199
<v Speaker 4>like me frankly can't actually dunk. But they give them

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<v Speaker 4>a trampoline and they tell them run and jump on

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<v Speaker 4>the trampoline and that's going to give you the clearness

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<v Speaker 4>to get up to be above the rim Steve Carell style.

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<v Speaker 4>How high can you lie?

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<v Speaker 2>Dan?

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<v Speaker 4>And that's going to allow.

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<v Speaker 1>Them to dunk.

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<v Speaker 4>But we've all seen the clips where they put somebody

0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:10.440
<v Speaker 4>in that circumstance and they just short it goes wrong. Yeah,

0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:12.880
<v Speaker 4>they short it either they go a little bit long

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<v Speaker 4>and they maybe rack their head on the backboard, or

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<v Speaker 4>perhaps they just come up embarrassingly short. Right. Frankly, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know where we're at with Brian Harrison. I had

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of optimism for the start of the Brian

0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:30.080
<v Speaker 4>Harrison regime because bo Nix was playing better. We saw

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<v Speaker 4>what Auburn did on the road against Penn State. Granted,

0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:35.800
<v Speaker 4>Penn State maybe didn't end up being a world beater,

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<v Speaker 4>but that was still an awesome moment. Very early on

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<v Speaker 4>in the season, Auburn finished six and seven. Their second

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<v Speaker 4>order wins was six point seven, so they were pretty

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<v Speaker 4>much right where Bill c thought they should be. This

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<v Speaker 4>is on the heels of a six and five campaign

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<v Speaker 4>that got Gus Malson fired. Now, Gus Melson was on

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<v Speaker 4>the hot seat, not on the hot seat for a

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<v Speaker 4>good five years at Auburn. Right, six and five was

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<v Speaker 4>really just the culmination of a bunch of years where

0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:07.119
<v Speaker 4>he was sort of on a warm seat. But Brian

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<v Speaker 4>Harson to come in to start strong in the way

0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:13.000
<v Speaker 4>that they did, and then for it to sort of

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<v Speaker 4>peter out. And now all of this goofiness with respect

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<v Speaker 4>to the internal investigation nineteen guys transferring out, go back

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<v Speaker 4>and listen to the interview we did with Justin Ferguson

0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:27.600
<v Speaker 4>of Auburnobserver dot com and you can get more details

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<v Speaker 4>on what exactly is going on inside the ropes an

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<v Speaker 4>of Auburn. But I'm not sure, frankly, what's happening here

0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:38.760
<v Speaker 4>for Brian Harrison on an open floor.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he looks like he might have the ability

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<v Speaker 3>to dunk it but refuses to. Maybe his maybe his

0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:55.320
<v Speaker 3>dad was like, no hot dogging, no showboating, play the

0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:57.960
<v Speaker 3>game like it was meant to be played. And he

0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:01.720
<v Speaker 3>wears shorter shorts and and he's just going up for layups,

0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:05.240
<v Speaker 3>sometimes doing like going up for layup but pump faking,

0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:08.200
<v Speaker 3>so somebody trailing flies by him and then he goes

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<v Speaker 3>for like a very boring layup. And maybe that's reminiscent

0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:14.040
<v Speaker 3>of the lack of recruiting, the lack of flash on

0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:17.359
<v Speaker 3>the trail, guys leaving, and Brian Harson being stubborn of

0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:19.760
<v Speaker 3>just like I'm just going to do a jump stop

0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:22.359
<v Speaker 3>and put it in the hoop off of the backboard.

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<v Speaker 3>But I digress. The thing, the actual football things to

0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:34.239
<v Speaker 3>know about Brian Harrison as a freshman at Auburn. The

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<v Speaker 3>defense under Derek Mason who's now gone improved decently from

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<v Speaker 3>where it was in the In the final year of

0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:44.040
<v Speaker 3>the Gus mals on Are, it improved decently, especially upfront.

0:21:44.880 --> 0:21:47.280
<v Speaker 3>The offense did regress a bit, but I you know,

0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:49.560
<v Speaker 3>you can attribute some of that to Bo Nicks's injury

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<v Speaker 3>at the end of the season, and you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>offense not really having a consistent like you know, they

0:21:56.320 --> 0:21:58.400
<v Speaker 3>would pop against schools, they would pop for a half

0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:00.600
<v Speaker 3>against schools, and then they would just here, like in

0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:03.320
<v Speaker 3>the Texas A and M game. So overall, it did

0:22:03.359 --> 0:22:06.159
<v Speaker 3>regress a bit from where it had been, which was

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<v Speaker 3>a more talented place in terms of offensive skill. I

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<v Speaker 3>believe if you look at the entirety of that offensive

0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:15.960
<v Speaker 3>roster before the Brian Harson era, Auburn did lose four

0:22:16.000 --> 0:22:21.399
<v Speaker 3>of five. They were competitive, but also that notion of

0:22:21.400 --> 0:22:24.520
<v Speaker 3>being competitive includes kind of blowing the Alabama game, the

0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:29.560
<v Speaker 3>Mississippi State game like an ugly sort of competitive at times.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm going to stick with my stubbornly insisting on

0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:38.280
<v Speaker 3>a jump stop banked layup that there is there are

0:22:38.359 --> 0:22:45.960
<v Speaker 3>moments of fundamentally sound play, but ultimately the highs that

0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:50.480
<v Speaker 3>Brian Harson is realistically trying to get to are not

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<v Speaker 3>all that impressive.

0:22:52.359 --> 0:22:57.399
<v Speaker 4>I love the thought of running down open floor, pump

0:22:57.440 --> 0:23:00.840
<v Speaker 4>fake guy flies by, and it's really just a small

0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:01.840
<v Speaker 4>bank shot.

0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:04.600
<v Speaker 3>Just a little, little set shot, little bank shot.

0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:06.879
<v Speaker 4>Used to practice those back in the day. Dan of

0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:09.840
<v Speaker 4>anaa in house basketball. When I played on the Black

0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:13.000
<v Speaker 4>team and the Tan team, I was never particularly good

0:23:13.000 --> 0:23:15.280
<v Speaker 4>at any of them. You didn't even have team names.

0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:17.280
<v Speaker 3>He were just like, that's Tie, he's on the Tan team.

0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:18.880
<v Speaker 4>That's exactly what it was. I was on the Tan

0:23:19.000 --> 0:23:20.720
<v Speaker 4>team and I was on the Black team.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you need to come out West. We had leagues

0:23:25.560 --> 0:23:28.760
<v Speaker 3>that licensed bulls and hornets and all that stuff. Okay,

0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:30.160
<v Speaker 3>where are we going next?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm in agreement with you. By the way, I kind

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<v Speaker 4>of feel the same. I don't know what to make

0:23:34.160 --> 0:23:37.560
<v Speaker 4>a Harrison. I could go a thousand different ways. Let's

0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:44.639
<v Speaker 4>go to Illinois and Brett Beilamo. Okay, all right. They

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<v Speaker 4>went five and seven this past season with a four

0:23:50.160 --> 0:23:55.879
<v Speaker 4>point seven second order wins tally from Bill c Okay,

0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:58.040
<v Speaker 4>this is a little luck, a little bit of luck.

0:23:58.280 --> 0:24:01.480
<v Speaker 4>There was a two wins sixth season that got Lovey

0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:02.840
<v Speaker 4>Smith fired.

0:24:03.040 --> 0:24:07.840
<v Speaker 3>Excuse you, Houston, Texan NFL head coach Lovey Smith somehow

0:24:07.960 --> 0:24:09.040
<v Speaker 3>continue he.

0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:14.600
<v Speaker 4>Used Illinois's springboard. Of course, Yes, the Bilma hire was

0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:18.119
<v Speaker 4>always interesting. You know, he's a big personality. Folks are

0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:21.640
<v Speaker 4>familiar with Brett Bilma from his time at Wisconsin and Arkansas.

0:24:21.680 --> 0:24:24.520
<v Speaker 4>He's been around sport for a good long time, and

0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:29.640
<v Speaker 4>so him getting hired at Illinois was in a sense

0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:32.440
<v Speaker 4>of homecoming because he's from Illinois. He obviously coached for

0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:34.399
<v Speaker 4>a good long time in the Big Ten, but you

0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:38.760
<v Speaker 4>just never really sure what to expect when you put

0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:41.040
<v Speaker 4>a guy like that in a situation like Illinois. Now

0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:45.840
<v Speaker 4>Illinois Illinois, I thought was they were pesky this year. Man,

0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:48.560
<v Speaker 4>they were plucky. They had their moments to beat Penn

0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:51.480
<v Speaker 4>State and that weird penalty kick over like nine overtime

0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:55.000
<v Speaker 4>game whatever, it was a minute beat Minnesota. Yeap beat Minnesota, right,

0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:57.760
<v Speaker 4>And so it definitely felt like this this team was

0:24:57.800 --> 0:25:01.920
<v Speaker 4>playing with more organization than we had seen at any

0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:05.840
<v Speaker 4>point in the recent past. So I'm optimistic here that

0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:11.520
<v Speaker 4>this could also be a standard issue dunk type of situation.

0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:16.800
<v Speaker 4>At worst case, just a normal layup a normal lad.

0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:19.000
<v Speaker 4>Maybe they're not getting up there to the rim. But

0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:21.240
<v Speaker 4>Brett Bielmick. Can he run up to the backboard and

0:25:21.240 --> 0:25:25.760
<v Speaker 4>do a standard issue layup maybe with both hands? Okay,

0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:27.480
<v Speaker 4>you know he can do it right, he can do

0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:31.359
<v Speaker 4>it lefty Right. That's what I feel like we're looking

0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:33.800
<v Speaker 4>at here with Illinois. Maybe not the glitz and glamour,

0:25:34.200 --> 0:25:35.440
<v Speaker 4>but they can get the ball in the hoop.

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:39.480
<v Speaker 3>So I'm with you. I am optimistic. And if you

0:25:39.480 --> 0:25:41.439
<v Speaker 3>look at what Illinois was able to do in terms

0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:44.040
<v Speaker 3>of improvement from twenty twenty to twenty twenty one, the

0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:46.399
<v Speaker 3>offense and the results on the field in terms of

0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:52.280
<v Speaker 3>scoreboard activity was largely unchanged. The defense dramatically improved, especially

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:55.000
<v Speaker 3>in stopping big plays, which I think is crazy important

0:25:55.080 --> 0:25:57.760
<v Speaker 3>in taking a team to whatever that next level is.

0:25:57.800 --> 0:26:00.800
<v Speaker 3>You stop big plays, then you start cut spreads and

0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:03.920
<v Speaker 3>you start turning blowouts into closer losses, you start getting

0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:07.040
<v Speaker 3>offenses off the field. I think that's an extremely positive

0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:10.119
<v Speaker 3>step for Illinois. They ran the ball actually really well

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:12.320
<v Speaker 3>two years ago in Lovey Smith's final year when they

0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:14.240
<v Speaker 3>went two and six and sort of took a step

0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:15.840
<v Speaker 3>back on the ground. Last year they were a little

0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:18.600
<v Speaker 3>bit more predictable without really much of an aerial attack.

0:26:18.720 --> 0:26:22.600
<v Speaker 3>But I think Illinois in a pretty decent place. I

0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:24.960
<v Speaker 3>think it's a good sign with how they finished this season.

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:27.960
<v Speaker 3>So they won three of five, the losses were competitive,

0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:30.080
<v Speaker 3>and as we mentioned, they beat Minnesota and Penn State,

0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:32.600
<v Speaker 3>which I think is just it's a good sign in

0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:36.719
<v Speaker 3>terms of buy in. And they recruited what I think

0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:38.679
<v Speaker 3>they were finished twelfth in the Big Ten, and they

0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:41.000
<v Speaker 3>it's heavy focus on offensive line. They're trying to rebuild

0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:43.040
<v Speaker 3>things up front. And there was the whole quotes about,

0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, Brett bielamuck, you know, allegedly trashing what Illinois

0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:48.919
<v Speaker 3>had on the rosterun along the offensive line, but then

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:51.679
<v Speaker 3>he sort of walked it back and talked about improvement.

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:59.119
<v Speaker 3>I have Bart Bilima in the open floor obviously, as

0:26:59.480 --> 0:27:01.440
<v Speaker 3>there's gonna be a lot of mass and a lot

0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:05.080
<v Speaker 3>of momentum, as he'd like a confidence to somebody attacking

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:09.920
<v Speaker 3>the hoop. Yeah, yeah, I think he knows his limitations

0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:12.320
<v Speaker 3>in terms of what he can do soaring through the air.

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:18.119
<v Speaker 3>But I also think there is a borderline recklessness to

0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:22.679
<v Speaker 3>Burt Bilama in the open floor that somebody's going to

0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:26.359
<v Speaker 3>try and slide under him to take a charge. But

0:27:26.920 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 3>Illinois is the kind of team that they're gonna they're

0:27:30.080 --> 0:27:34.000
<v Speaker 3>gonna bank on that guy flinching or doing something that

0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:37.040
<v Speaker 3>ultimately it's going to be a blocking foul and that

0:27:37.760 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 3>Illinois will happily, you know, miss that open floor layup,

0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:44.480
<v Speaker 3>but get to the free throwed line and wear themes down,

0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:48.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, however, it whatever it takes, and so yeah,

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:51.480
<v Speaker 3>I think there's a there's going to be an efficiency

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:54.200
<v Speaker 3>to open floor Beilama in the air that he can

0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:55.920
<v Speaker 3>find under his feet.

0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I am.

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:00.560
<v Speaker 4>But it's in a good spot right it. It's better

0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 4>than it was. And definitely there's no way that you

0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:07.159
<v Speaker 4>can come out of the twenty twenty one campaign without

0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:10.320
<v Speaker 4>feeling better about where the team is headed. Yeah, Like,

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:14.240
<v Speaker 4>so much about basketball, especially if you're trying to play

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:18.280
<v Speaker 4>that h dribble drive game, is making sure that you

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 4>have somebody who can just get the ball in the hoop.

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 4>Doesn't matter if it's a dunk or if it's a layup,

0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:24.439
<v Speaker 4>but you just need somebody who's efficient at doing it,

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:26.840
<v Speaker 4>somebody who knows what they're doing, looks like they've been

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:31.119
<v Speaker 4>there before. Realma has been there before. He's gotten a

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:35.240
<v Speaker 4>great heights with all of the programs that he's coached,

0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 4>if only for a passing moment at Arkansas. So I

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:42.239
<v Speaker 4>feel pretty good about where it's at. Doesn't always need

0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 4>to be glitz and glamour, but I think he's going

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 4>to know what to do with the ball in the sands.

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:49.440
<v Speaker 3>And you remember, by the way, the process by which

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:52.320
<v Speaker 3>they hired Retioloma was a lot better than what it

0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 3>was hiring Lovey Smith when they fired Tim Beckman late

0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:57.840
<v Speaker 3>in the process after all those allegations. And so I

0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:00.080
<v Speaker 3>don't know if Lovey ever just got off on the

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 3>right foot and he was just sort of available and familiar,

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:08.400
<v Speaker 3>and so now Repulama available familiar. But also you know it,

0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:12.720
<v Speaker 3>the momentum of his hiring and his tenure thus far

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 3>has just made a lot more sense.

0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:16.640
<v Speaker 4>It's made a lot more sense. I know. There are

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 4>Arkansas people screaming out there. He went eight and five,

0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 4>you call those great heights. Okay, maybe I took a

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:24.040
<v Speaker 4>little bit of liberty there, but it's fit.

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 3>It's also fit, it's also place. It's also time in

0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 3>one's career. Yeah, it ended up disappointing at Arkansas, but

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 3>we also saw somebody at Arkansas right after him who

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:37.520
<v Speaker 3>scored on their own hoop a lat Tai Hillenbrandt and

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:41.480
<v Speaker 3>Chad Morris. So in retrospect, repulam not the absolute worst

0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:42.960
<v Speaker 3>that we've seen from Arkansas.

0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 4>So it's fine, moving on, Let's go to South Carolina

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:51.480
<v Speaker 4>and Shane Beemer. Let's I am excited to hear what

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 4>you have to.

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Say about Shane Biemer in South Carolina.

0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, Shane Beemer in year one went seven to

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 4>six h second order wins with six and four. So

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 4>what that tells me is that this wasn't necessarily spoken

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:08.959
<v Speaker 4>mirrors a little bit of luck, but maybe not as

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:11.480
<v Speaker 4>much luck as you would expect. And I say that

0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 4>because I recall when we did our SEC previews, we

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:20.120
<v Speaker 4>fully expected South Carolina to be a tire fire. Sure,

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 4>not only was the schedule brutal, but there was roster turnover.

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 4>We didn't know who was playing quarterback, Zebadiba Daya Nolan

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 4>was going to be the quarterback a Ga. We didn't

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:32.280
<v Speaker 4>find that out until like a week to three yeah,

0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:35.440
<v Speaker 4>before the season started. So it was like a whole thing.

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 4>They were trying to duct tape and chicken wire this

0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:42.080
<v Speaker 4>thing together pretty much from the second that Shane Biemer

0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 4>got on campus, yep, lo and behold. I mean they

0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:48.920
<v Speaker 4>end up putting together a really nice campaign, going to

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 4>a bowl game, he gets the Duke's Mayo dumped on him.

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 4>This is a great campaign. Now they got Spencer Rattler

0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:59.200
<v Speaker 4>coming in, which by any measure, is a huge win

0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:02.680
<v Speaker 4>for that program. Monel Caraf he's, you know, a quarter

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:05.000
<v Speaker 4>of what he was last season at Oklahoma. He's still

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 4>better than what they had. So there's a lot of

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 4>forward momentum here for Shampe Beemer. The question obviously is

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:15.920
<v Speaker 4>can he maintain it? Can he maintain it? Can he

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 4>continue to build a roster? Will he stay at South

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:24.480
<v Speaker 4>Carolina if they continue on the trajectory? Look, it's got

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:27.160
<v Speaker 4>to be asked. And has been at major programs. Yeah,

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 4>he was at Oklahoma, right, Georgia. Yeah, So what do

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:36.600
<v Speaker 4>you think of Beemer? Is this a temporary flash in

0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:40.280
<v Speaker 4>the pan that we saw right or is this the

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 4>start of something really special?

0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 3>Probably somewhere in between. I think the ceiling is pretty

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:51.040
<v Speaker 3>high for what South Carolina could be just geographically. I

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:53.800
<v Speaker 3>think they should be able to, especially with Shaneemer's personality

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:56.840
<v Speaker 3>and energy, be able to recruit. But well, Mushamp was

0:31:56.880 --> 0:31:59.040
<v Speaker 3>able to recruit Steve Spurry was able to recruit and

0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:01.880
<v Speaker 3>spray rhead South Carol that's at an all time high.

0:32:02.040 --> 0:32:05.160
<v Speaker 3>But where South Carolina is right now. So their defense

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:07.840
<v Speaker 3>got dramatically better. And so we always used to talk

0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:10.200
<v Speaker 3>about how well must champs South Carolina. The defense would

0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:11.920
<v Speaker 3>improve and the offense would fall off a cliff. Offense

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:14.120
<v Speaker 3>would improve, defense would fall off a cliff. So South

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:17.680
<v Speaker 3>Carolina's defense got dramatically better. The offense was definitely worse,

0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 3>but a lot of that can be attributed to health,

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:23.000
<v Speaker 3>and you know quarterbacks coming in and out and you

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:27.320
<v Speaker 3>know uncertainty week to week. They start what a usual receiver,

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 3>a high school quarterback in the bowl game, which was

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 3>ended up being very successful. To carryon, Joyner, I got

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 3>I remember these names. There's so many names to remember.

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 3>But South Carolina was good the last they weren't great,

0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 3>but you know, they beat Florida, they beat Auburn. You know,

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 3>these are the context of what Florida and Auburn were

0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:47.800
<v Speaker 3>at the end of the year is certainly worth talking about.

0:32:47.880 --> 0:32:50.600
<v Speaker 3>But they were competitive in that loss to Missouri and

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 3>from where they were especially early on in the year

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 3>and the lack of points scored. I think there's an energy.

0:32:55.560 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 3>I think there's an excitement. I think there's a buy in,

0:32:57.320 --> 0:33:00.120
<v Speaker 3>which is anything you everything you want from a guy

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:04.760
<v Speaker 3>taking over a program that was middling to not in

0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 3>a good place. And so Shane Beemer is the type

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 3>of open floor aggressor that I think is almost a

0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:16.480
<v Speaker 3>one man fast break. It's he is in such good

0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 3>shape and he is so excited that he's always pushing

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:22.480
<v Speaker 3>the ball, and so anytime the defense is sort of

0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:26.240
<v Speaker 3>lollygagging getting back, there's Shane Beemer turning it into a

0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 3>fast break, right. He's pushing the tempo, he's finding every

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:31.480
<v Speaker 3>little crease and every little advantage. Even if he is

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:33.920
<v Speaker 3>not the most athletic guy. You know, maybe he's the

0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:37.360
<v Speaker 3>one who's sort of crouching and ducking behind somebody on

0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:40.240
<v Speaker 3>an inbounds pass after a score basket and he's just

0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 3>doing the quick steal and putting it up. So I

0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:45.920
<v Speaker 3>don't think he's getting crazy high, but I think his

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:49.800
<v Speaker 3>effort and enthusiasm and how in shape of an open

0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 3>floor player gets him some easy buckets more and more

0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:56.600
<v Speaker 3>year over year in the open floor, not dunking, but

0:33:57.480 --> 0:34:00.239
<v Speaker 3>I think he's I think in tap backboard. You can

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:01.479
<v Speaker 3>get backboard during a layup.

0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:06.240
<v Speaker 4>Sure, one of those deals where he sort of kisses

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:09.200
<v Speaker 4>up against the glass and then just for just for

0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 4>the hell of it, touches the backboard to prove that.

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:16.840
<v Speaker 4>That's what I'm saying, he's tapping back Yeah. Yeah, I

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:20.120
<v Speaker 4>maybe working in the gym to try and get rim,

0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:22.560
<v Speaker 4>to try and get to the point where he can

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:23.480
<v Speaker 4>dunk a tennis ball.

0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:26.960
<v Speaker 3>So you're talking he's wearing those those shoes, the special

0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:27.920
<v Speaker 3>Jimmy shoes.

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:29.360
<v Speaker 4>From those work. Do they work?

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:33.360
<v Speaker 3>I never tried, but I have to assume yes, based

0:34:33.360 --> 0:34:37.120
<v Speaker 3>on the back pages of Inside Sports magazine, to which

0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:40.400
<v Speaker 3>I was a subscriber in nineteen ninety one. Probably, So

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:41.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to say yes.

0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 4>No again.

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 3>I anticipate he finished eleventh in the SEC this last

0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:50.359
<v Speaker 3>recruiting class, but that's twenty sixth nationally. They signed two

0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:53.319
<v Speaker 3>quarterbacks in this class, including a pretty highly rated one

0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:57.160
<v Speaker 3>in Brandon Davis from I'm in Delaware, the number one

0:34:57.160 --> 0:35:00.719
<v Speaker 3>player in Delaware to be sure, and T Bailey who

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:04.000
<v Speaker 3>decommitted from Oregon and is from somewhere in the South

0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:07.480
<v Speaker 3>think Alabama and ended up committing to South Carolina. So

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:10.880
<v Speaker 3>I think things are looking promising, especially with how you

0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:13.359
<v Speaker 3>know they were able to hit the portal and end

0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:14.400
<v Speaker 3>up with Spencer Rattler.

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 4>This is a guy who at some point in his

0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 4>life had lowered the rim to eight feet and so

0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:23.560
<v Speaker 4>he knows how to conduct himself around the rim and

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 4>he's working on getting up there at the ten foot level. Yeah,

0:35:29.239 --> 0:35:30.080
<v Speaker 4>wearing the shoes.

0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 1>I like that.

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:33.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I like wharing jump. There's a fearlessness to him.

0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:36.320
<v Speaker 3>There is in the open floor. It doesn't always result

0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:42.120
<v Speaker 3>in something extraordinary happening, but that goes a long way.

0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:48.839
<v Speaker 4>Steve Sarkisian in Texas, Dan all right, Steve Sarkisian took

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:51.319
<v Speaker 4>over for Tom Herman. Tom Herman went seven and three

0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:55.399
<v Speaker 4>and got fired. Yep, Steve Sarkisian takes over in twenty

0:35:55.440 --> 0:35:59.480
<v Speaker 4>twenty one, goes five and seven. Second order Wins say

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 4>that they were bit unlucky. Second Order Wins has them

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:05.680
<v Speaker 4>at about six and a half. So there are a

0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:08.440
<v Speaker 4>number of different ways that you can parse that. Texas's

0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:15.560
<v Speaker 4>problems are many and nonspecific. They need better quarterback play.

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:19.080
<v Speaker 4>Presumably they will get some of that with Quinnewers, but

0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:22.920
<v Speaker 4>we haven't seen much of quinnewers to actually rest on

0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 4>that fact, so we'll assume that he'll be good because

0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:28.919
<v Speaker 4>he was the number one overall prospers. We haven't seen

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:32.279
<v Speaker 4>any of Quinn. We haven't seen anything. Yeah, we don't

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:36.239
<v Speaker 4>even really have tape. So there's that component. There is

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:41.040
<v Speaker 4>a larger issue about the Texas defense too. For a

0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:43.040
<v Speaker 4>good long time now, and by good long time I

0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:46.719
<v Speaker 4>mean at least three four years, tackling has been a

0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:50.600
<v Speaker 4>problem mm hm. Tackling in the open field, not in

0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 4>the open field, just general toughness on defense has been

0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:57.399
<v Speaker 4>a bit of a concern for the Longhorns. They need

0:36:57.440 --> 0:37:00.680
<v Speaker 4>to get better. Talent is not an issue, but they

0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:02.800
<v Speaker 4>play a bit soft on defense and they need to

0:37:02.800 --> 0:37:06.040
<v Speaker 4>get better at that. That's been a concern. But that

0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:09.120
<v Speaker 4>being said, there is no doubt that there is talent

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 4>there as ever in the Great State of Texas. It's

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:16.919
<v Speaker 4>not just Quinn yours, Jean Robinson. We're still talking about

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:20.360
<v Speaker 4>Jon Robinson. He's coming back Jean Robinson at right. No

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:23.840
<v Speaker 4>think he has a choice. But yeah, Xavier Worthy I

0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:26.840
<v Speaker 4>think was a big time bright spot out wide for

0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:31.480
<v Speaker 4>that offense, emerging as a top target for Quin Yours.

0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:34.520
<v Speaker 4>Now going into the twenty two campaign. So they've got guys,

0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:38.040
<v Speaker 4>They've got plenty of talent there. It's just a matter

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:41.880
<v Speaker 4>of can Sark find a way to assemble the pieces

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:44.480
<v Speaker 4>and get this program feeling like it's moving to a

0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:47.800
<v Speaker 4>place with serious momentum. I don't know if we saw

0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:51.920
<v Speaker 4>that in twenty twenty two. I believe that Sark has

0:37:52.400 --> 0:37:56.840
<v Speaker 4>the know how, the experience, everything that you need to run.

0:37:56.680 --> 0:37:57.920
<v Speaker 1>A place like Texas.

0:37:57.920 --> 0:38:00.799
<v Speaker 4>Like he's been at Alabama, He's been at US, He's

0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:04.040
<v Speaker 4>been even at Washington. Right, He's been at places. He

0:38:04.200 --> 0:38:07.919
<v Speaker 4>knows what it takes to make a big time program tick.

0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:15.000
<v Speaker 4>Good players, great players, Yeah, great players help right? Yeah?

0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:22.240
<v Speaker 4>The question is can he now build sustainable success in Austin.

0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:25.839
<v Speaker 4>And I don't know if we have enough information at

0:38:25.840 --> 0:38:28.560
<v Speaker 4>this point to really gauge whether or not it's going

0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 4>to work.

0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:32.440
<v Speaker 3>It needs we do, because this is we have his

0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:37.080
<v Speaker 3>freshman year. That's what the show is. It's based on

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 3>that first year. Did you see enough did you see

0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:43.439
<v Speaker 3>enough kernels to say ooh, I can see what they're

0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:46.080
<v Speaker 3>going for now? Did you see enough colonels to say no?

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:48.279
<v Speaker 4>I didn't know if I say much?

0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well that so then say with your chest, I.

0:38:52.719 --> 0:38:56.600
<v Speaker 4>Am trying to be optimistic. I'm trying to be optimistic

0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:59.840
<v Speaker 4>because for as much hey as we've made on the

0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:03.200
<v Speaker 4>wh Texas is back, Texas is not back. Thing right,

0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:08.040
<v Speaker 4>I don't really want to dunk on Texas to keep

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:11.319
<v Speaker 4>it within the theme here. I want Texas to be back.

0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 4>I want Texas to be interesting. I want Texas going

0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:18.799
<v Speaker 4>into the SEC to suddenly change the dynamic, to make

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:21.200
<v Speaker 4>it harder for Nick Saban, make it harder for everybody

0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 4>on the West Side, like I want that storyline. But

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:29.000
<v Speaker 4>five and seven, man, I don't know, Like I kind

0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:30.840
<v Speaker 4>of hope that Sark would come in and you be

0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:34.880
<v Speaker 4>this quarterback whisper and either Casey Thompson or Hudson Card

0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:38.759
<v Speaker 4>or whoever would elevate their game and take it to

0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:43.279
<v Speaker 4>a different level, and Texas would be closer to back

0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 4>going into year two.

0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:48.919
<v Speaker 3>So I don't think Texas was necessarily unlucky. I think

0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:51.000
<v Speaker 3>what those second order wins when you look at the

0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:53.680
<v Speaker 3>stats and teams who put up this stat or that

0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:55.839
<v Speaker 3>stat during a game, they win the game. However, many

0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:59.919
<v Speaker 3>percentage of the time, I think Texas was just wildly inconsistent.

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:03.000
<v Speaker 3>I think they would put up a bomb quarter where

0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:05.760
<v Speaker 3>they were incredible. Bomb could be good or bad, I suppose,

0:40:05.760 --> 0:40:08.799
<v Speaker 3>but they could they put up a killer quarter and

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 3>scored twenty one points in the first quarter and then

0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:14.600
<v Speaker 3>just faded and just completely faded and strung together four

0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:17.279
<v Speaker 3>or five drives that went three and out quickly. And

0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:20.120
<v Speaker 3>so it was the inconsistency that I think so like

0:40:20.200 --> 0:40:23.680
<v Speaker 3>some of the underlying stats were there at times, but

0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:26.319
<v Speaker 3>the number of times at that offense went three and out,

0:40:26.400 --> 0:40:28.680
<v Speaker 3>or the number of times that defense just couldn't tackle

0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:31.759
<v Speaker 3>anybody or couldn't get into a passing lane. I just

0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:35.080
<v Speaker 3>if I'm going to look at the twenty twenty one

0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 3>season as a microcosm for what Sark could be. I

0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:41.480
<v Speaker 3>think he is going to string together more successful drives

0:40:41.480 --> 0:40:44.960
<v Speaker 3>on offense, and there wasn't much in terms of the defense.

0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:47.120
<v Speaker 3>There's talent on this defense. There will be more talent

0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:49.560
<v Speaker 3>on this defense. I'm with you that I think Pete

0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:52.240
<v Speaker 3>Kolkowski is a good defensive mind and coordinates a good defense.

0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:54.640
<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, I didn't even see like

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:57.239
<v Speaker 3>a half, right, I didn't see a half against a

0:40:57.239 --> 0:40:59.560
<v Speaker 3>good team where like HM, they've got it going like

0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:03.799
<v Speaker 3>that's that's the worry for me, that their offense is

0:41:03.800 --> 0:41:05.960
<v Speaker 3>going to play so quickly good or bad, that it's

0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:07.919
<v Speaker 3>going to put the defense in a bad spot. Look,

0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:10.000
<v Speaker 3>the recruiting class was incredible, but that's never been the

0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:13.000
<v Speaker 3>problem in Austin. You know, the receivers coming in, the

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:16.080
<v Speaker 3>offensive lineman coming in, certainly an improvement. Point in Quinn,

0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:19.800
<v Speaker 3>yours a talent improvement. We assume, we think, we hope,

0:41:20.400 --> 0:41:24.440
<v Speaker 3>but no, I think Sark when you know the offense

0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:27.799
<v Speaker 3>took a step back, the defense took a noticeable step back.

0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:29.839
<v Speaker 3>And the way that they finish their season, if that's

0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:32.120
<v Speaker 3>what if we're looking at buying, if we're looking at inspiration.

0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:33.000
<v Speaker 4>Now, these are not.

0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:35.879
<v Speaker 3>Sark's guys, so whatever that means. But they lose four

0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:38.879
<v Speaker 3>or five. Three of the losses were competitive, but that

0:41:39.040 --> 0:41:42.320
<v Speaker 3>includes like, oh they hung with Kansas, like cool, great.

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:44.399
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what you want to take away from

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:47.000
<v Speaker 3>almost being as good as Kansas, and they were not

0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:50.240
<v Speaker 3>competitive against Iowa State. That game was I think thirty

0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:54.799
<v Speaker 3>to seven. So the thing I'm taking away from this

0:41:55.320 --> 0:41:59.160
<v Speaker 3>Sark in the open floor is maybe dunking early or

0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:01.359
<v Speaker 3>being able to dunk when he was younger, and every

0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:03.440
<v Speaker 3>single time he now tries to dunk, he's pulling a

0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:07.000
<v Speaker 3>hamstring or like pulling up and like passing it off

0:42:07.040 --> 0:42:10.000
<v Speaker 3>to somebody else, or just settling for like I just

0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:14.319
<v Speaker 3>I think he can fly high. I think there are

0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:16.640
<v Speaker 3>too many things in the way for him to consistently

0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:17.320
<v Speaker 3>fly high.

0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:20.080
<v Speaker 2>You have no idea how high I can fly.

0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:23.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't have an idea because it's not about It's

0:42:23.239 --> 0:42:25.799
<v Speaker 3>not about what we think sark ceiling is in this case,

0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:29.719
<v Speaker 3>because we know what the ceiling could be hypothetically. I

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:32.560
<v Speaker 3>just think too many things are going to continually get

0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:34.440
<v Speaker 3>in the way at Texas that they might have a

0:42:34.440 --> 0:42:36.000
<v Speaker 3>ten to two season and go to a New Year

0:42:36.040 --> 0:42:38.040
<v Speaker 3>six game and follow it up with a seven and

0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:44.440
<v Speaker 3>five season. So I'm saying occasional impressive dunk, but the

0:42:44.480 --> 0:42:45.839
<v Speaker 3>hamstrings are always going to.

0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Be a factor.

0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:47.840
<v Speaker 4>Here, here's what concerns me.

0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:51.800
<v Speaker 3>And maybe he's ham strung. There you go by those

0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:55.319
<v Speaker 3>around him at Texas that seemed to ham string some.

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:59.160
<v Speaker 4>Other guys, pros pro Dan Rubinstein. Here's what concerns me.

0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:05.960
<v Speaker 4>Of course, yeah, you mentioned the inconsistency. Inconsistency is fine

0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:11.360
<v Speaker 4>if if we're talking about and I use this example

0:43:11.400 --> 0:43:15.080
<v Speaker 4>all the time. Your Notre Dame in year one under

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:18.560
<v Speaker 4>Brian Kelly, right, And I use this example a lot

0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:21.640
<v Speaker 4>because it's a great example to me of a team

0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:24.960
<v Speaker 4>that was wildly inconsistent but at least felt like it

0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:28.439
<v Speaker 4>was playing hard every game, at least felt like there

0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:33.400
<v Speaker 4>was some sort of theme, some sort of higher organizational structure.

0:43:34.080 --> 0:43:37.040
<v Speaker 4>Even if you didn't always see the results, you could

0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 4>at least sort of see.

0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:38.760
<v Speaker 1>The finish line.

0:43:38.800 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 4>You could see back then what kind of program he

0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:44.200
<v Speaker 4>was trying to build, and he was pretty successful at

0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:46.799
<v Speaker 4>doing it. I don't know if we have that kind

0:43:46.800 --> 0:43:50.879
<v Speaker 4>of vision after year one with Steve Sarkgian. I don't

0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:53.320
<v Speaker 4>know if we've gotten there. Maybe we'll get there in

0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:56.480
<v Speaker 4>near two. Maybe quinn Ewers will take that offense to

0:43:56.560 --> 0:43:59.520
<v Speaker 4>a different level, but certainly not on defense. Man Like,

0:43:59.560 --> 0:44:02.960
<v Speaker 4>on defense it was frustrating, and on defense there were

0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:05.080
<v Speaker 4>plenty of plays where it felt like guys were just

0:44:05.160 --> 0:44:08.000
<v Speaker 4>not playing that hard, right, And so that's worrying to me.

0:44:08.680 --> 0:44:09.960
<v Speaker 4>And I don't know if that's the kind of thing

0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:12.600
<v Speaker 4>that you can just fix with a full off season

0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:17.400
<v Speaker 4>with a new mantra. I don't know, but that's what

0:44:17.520 --> 0:44:20.440
<v Speaker 4>concerns me. I hope I'm wrong, but that's what I

0:44:20.480 --> 0:44:21.280
<v Speaker 4>worry about.

0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:24.520
<v Speaker 3>What was Brian Kelly's first year was twenty ten, twenty ten? Yeah,

0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:29.359
<v Speaker 3>so the twenty twenty ten Notre Dame team improved from

0:44:29.560 --> 0:44:32.279
<v Speaker 3>six and six to eight and five. But defensively, which

0:44:32.360 --> 0:44:35.359
<v Speaker 3>is where I think effort and caring and motivation comes from,

0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:37.759
<v Speaker 3>because tackling and defense is a lot about effort. Yep,

0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:41.480
<v Speaker 3>sixty fifth in twenty nine to thirteenth in twenty ten.

0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 4>There you go, yep, so effort?

0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:44:45.160 --> 0:44:47.319
<v Speaker 4>Are they playing harder? They not playing hard? There were

0:44:47.560 --> 0:44:50.920
<v Speaker 4>too many examples this past season where you just you

0:44:51.000 --> 0:44:53.600
<v Speaker 4>had a wonder about Texas. Yeah, are they playing hard?

0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:55.640
<v Speaker 1>Are their heads in this? What's going on?

0:44:55.719 --> 0:44:58.560
<v Speaker 4>And that I'm not saying that's a harbinger of what's

0:44:58.560 --> 0:45:00.840
<v Speaker 4>to come. I'm not saying and he's gonna short the

0:45:00.920 --> 0:45:03.480
<v Speaker 4>dunk and he's gonna land on his face. All I'm

0:45:03.520 --> 0:45:06.480
<v Speaker 4>saying is, like you said, watch out for the ham strings.

0:45:06.719 --> 0:45:11.480
<v Speaker 4>Hamstrings for the hamstrings. Okay, hammies. Okay, next coach, next coach.

0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:15.279
<v Speaker 4>Let's do a couple more here. Let's talk about jetfish.

0:45:15.719 --> 0:45:18.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh man, I would love to talk about a guy

0:45:18.680 --> 0:45:23.080
<v Speaker 3>wearing the special jumping shoes. This guy's putting in the work.

0:45:23.160 --> 0:45:26.600
<v Speaker 3>He's doing squats, he's jumping onto ledges all the time.

0:45:27.000 --> 0:45:31.520
<v Speaker 3>He it's it's the desire to dunk that appears to

0:45:31.600 --> 0:45:34.759
<v Speaker 3>be more pronounced than perhaps some of his compatriots on

0:45:34.800 --> 0:45:38.520
<v Speaker 3>this list. He is exhausting. He's five to seven. There

0:45:38.560 --> 0:45:42.840
<v Speaker 3>are spudwebbean, you know, tendencies here and this is also.

0:45:42.800 --> 0:45:44.879
<v Speaker 2>You have no idea how high I can fly.

0:45:45.760 --> 0:45:48.960
<v Speaker 3>But the work he's doing on his calves, yeah, I

0:45:48.960 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 3>think is unmatched. Continue Jetfish is doing some freestyle walking

0:45:52.800 --> 0:45:56.280
<v Speaker 3>just when he's out in the park with friends, jumping

0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:59.560
<v Speaker 3>up on benches, up on railings. It has proven that

0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:03.080
<v Speaker 3>he can be nimble, agile if he has to. Yeah,

0:46:03.160 --> 0:46:06.200
<v Speaker 3>you can see it. You can see the early trappings

0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:09.720
<v Speaker 3>of that with Jedfish. He definitely kicked up some dust

0:46:09.719 --> 0:46:11.839
<v Speaker 3>in year one, despite the fact that they only went

0:46:11.880 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 3>one in eleven.

0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:15.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they only went one and eleven. Now that was

0:46:15.280 --> 0:46:18.560
<v Speaker 4>an improvement from the and five campaign in twenty twenty.

0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:21.480
<v Speaker 4>You'll take the one, and you'll take a two point

0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:25.680
<v Speaker 4>six second order wins number for whatever that's worth. You'll

0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:26.919
<v Speaker 4>take it. It's better than one.

0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:28.840
<v Speaker 3>I agree, I agree, take it.

0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:32.600
<v Speaker 4>But it does feel like there is at least a

0:46:32.680 --> 0:46:37.160
<v Speaker 4>vibe here. There's a vibe guys like him. Recruiting has

0:46:37.200 --> 0:46:40.360
<v Speaker 4>been decent enough. They just picked up a four star yesterday,

0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:41.560
<v Speaker 4>right forget his name.

0:46:41.400 --> 0:46:43.200
<v Speaker 3>But Quarterback of the future. Yeah, I think he's from

0:46:43.239 --> 0:46:44.560
<v Speaker 3>Colorado quarterback yep.

0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:49.120
<v Speaker 4>So it just seems like people really like Jedfish for

0:46:49.239 --> 0:46:53.960
<v Speaker 4>whatever that's worth. The results weren't there, but the momentum

0:46:54.000 --> 0:46:57.200
<v Speaker 4>and the positivity is at least a change from where

0:46:57.239 --> 0:46:59.680
<v Speaker 4>Arizona's been over the last I don't know, three years now.

0:47:00.120 --> 0:47:03.840
<v Speaker 4>So taking that for what it is, it feels like

0:47:03.880 --> 0:47:07.400
<v Speaker 4>a situation where maybe he's got the layup down with

0:47:07.480 --> 0:47:11.080
<v Speaker 4>his strong side, he's working to get the layup going

0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:12.720
<v Speaker 4>with his left hand.

0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if jet Fish is ready or lefty. I'

0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:15.839
<v Speaker 1>have to look that one up.

0:47:15.880 --> 0:47:19.319
<v Speaker 4>But nonetheless, that's where we're at with this, just trying

0:47:19.360 --> 0:47:22.000
<v Speaker 4>to be more efficient at getting to two points when

0:47:22.000 --> 0:47:25.239
<v Speaker 4>it's there in front of you. Does anybody know if

0:47:25.360 --> 0:47:27.759
<v Speaker 4>Jetfish is ready or lefty? How would we know any

0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:28.000
<v Speaker 4>of that?

0:47:28.400 --> 0:47:31.200
<v Speaker 3>Look unless we watch I know Jim Harbaugh is righty

0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:34.640
<v Speaker 3>because I've seen him throw football as an NFL quarterback

0:47:34.680 --> 0:47:38.480
<v Speaker 3>and you know, warming up for games inexplicably. But as

0:47:38.520 --> 0:47:40.520
<v Speaker 3>a coach, I have no idea. I Jetfish is ready

0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:42.040
<v Speaker 3>or lefty, but I think what you bring up is

0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:44.320
<v Speaker 3>something interesting. I think he's gonna be able to jump.

0:47:44.400 --> 0:47:46.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't think he's gonna be dunking, but I think

0:47:46.160 --> 0:47:50.520
<v Speaker 3>he's gonna have variety in his finishes, reverses, right hand,

0:47:50.920 --> 0:47:55.640
<v Speaker 3>left hand, hesitations, floaters like. I think he's giving himself variety,

0:47:55.719 --> 0:48:00.200
<v Speaker 3>especially because of what UCLA and Arizona State currently look

0:48:00.280 --> 0:48:03.680
<v Speaker 3>like on the recruiting trail in southern California, Arizona on

0:48:03.719 --> 0:48:06.759
<v Speaker 3>the West coast whatever I think, Arizona. And so they

0:48:06.800 --> 0:48:09.680
<v Speaker 3>pick up the best receiver on the West coast in

0:48:09.719 --> 0:48:13.640
<v Speaker 3>this past class in I mean Tayo Torah McMillan. I

0:48:13.640 --> 0:48:15.759
<v Speaker 3>don't know how to pronounce his name yet, but he

0:48:15.880 --> 0:48:19.440
<v Speaker 3>was the jewel of Oregon's receiving core class. And so

0:48:19.480 --> 0:48:21.960
<v Speaker 3>when Mario Cristobal leaves, he ends up going to Arizona.

0:48:22.400 --> 0:48:25.640
<v Speaker 3>They hit the portal hard. I just you know, hiring

0:48:25.640 --> 0:48:27.560
<v Speaker 3>Don Brown. I think in year one now, of course

0:48:27.719 --> 0:48:29.960
<v Speaker 3>he leaves for the UMAs job, but I think what

0:48:30.080 --> 0:48:31.759
<v Speaker 3>he should be able to do on the trail and

0:48:31.800 --> 0:48:36.319
<v Speaker 3>in hiring assistants will continue to be impressive. And I

0:48:36.360 --> 0:48:39.520
<v Speaker 3>think that the height of what Arizona can be is

0:48:39.600 --> 0:48:43.239
<v Speaker 3>probably winning the South if things go terribly wrong for

0:48:43.360 --> 0:48:47.600
<v Speaker 3>places like Utah and USC and they can things can

0:48:47.640 --> 0:48:50.160
<v Speaker 3>go terribly wrong for basically everybody, So I think he

0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:53.160
<v Speaker 3>can put them in a position to do that. But

0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:58.560
<v Speaker 3>also dunking is probably Look, Arizona has won the South,

0:48:58.600 --> 0:49:02.200
<v Speaker 3>they flavor for Packed twelve titles once or twice, so

0:49:03.000 --> 0:49:07.120
<v Speaker 3>I am I'm optimistic. They got better on offense slightly.

0:49:07.160 --> 0:49:09.720
<v Speaker 3>They got better on defense with a very specific vision

0:49:09.760 --> 0:49:13.040
<v Speaker 3>of I don't know, just blitz every down. I don't know,

0:49:13.200 --> 0:49:14.720
<v Speaker 3>just send people, Just send people.

0:49:15.040 --> 0:49:15.600
<v Speaker 4>It can't be.

0:49:15.560 --> 0:49:17.799
<v Speaker 3>Worse than what we were doing in twenty twenty. So

0:49:18.520 --> 0:49:23.279
<v Speaker 3>I appreciate that, and I'm encouraged that Arizona will be

0:49:23.320 --> 0:49:26.440
<v Speaker 3>a Bowl team, a fun bowl team, which tells me

0:49:27.000 --> 0:49:31.600
<v Speaker 3>that Jedfish would be skilled in the air finishing in

0:49:31.600 --> 0:49:32.879
<v Speaker 3>a variety of ways.

0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:36.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm with you, Dan. By the way, I'm currently

0:49:36.680 --> 0:49:40.520
<v Speaker 4>watching a YouTube video here from the PAC twelve networks

0:49:40.760 --> 0:49:43.000
<v Speaker 4>trying to discern whether or not he writes with his

0:49:43.120 --> 0:49:47.760
<v Speaker 4>right hand, whether he's holding anything in his left hand,

0:49:48.440 --> 0:49:51.000
<v Speaker 4>how this is working. So we're gonna need to figure

0:49:51.040 --> 0:49:52.359
<v Speaker 4>this out. This is now going to be my off

0:49:52.360 --> 0:49:56.040
<v Speaker 4>season project. But regardless, I think I'm with you on

0:49:56.120 --> 0:49:59.960
<v Speaker 4>Jedfish right. I think I'm with you and good despite

0:50:00.200 --> 0:50:03.640
<v Speaker 4>the fact that that felt like a weird hire in

0:50:03.719 --> 0:50:06.359
<v Speaker 4>the very beginning, because wasn't that a situation where like

0:50:06.840 --> 0:50:12.320
<v Speaker 4>the president or somebody within that organization and that program

0:50:12.600 --> 0:50:15.600
<v Speaker 4>liked him more than the others, And it didn't feel Yeah,

0:50:15.920 --> 0:50:19.080
<v Speaker 4>didn't feel like it was a great fit at least

0:50:19.200 --> 0:50:23.520
<v Speaker 4>on the surface, but the results, at least under the surface,

0:50:23.640 --> 0:50:25.640
<v Speaker 4>appeared to be even though the wins aren't there yet.

0:50:25.719 --> 0:50:29.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they were competitive against Oregon until relatively close to

0:50:29.120 --> 0:50:31.160
<v Speaker 3>the end of that game. They gave some teams fits

0:50:31.400 --> 0:50:34.279
<v Speaker 3>and better than their record indicates. And I also think

0:50:34.520 --> 0:50:38.040
<v Speaker 3>he would be very smart to go after kids transfer

0:50:38.080 --> 0:50:41.319
<v Speaker 3>from the Midwest and saying, hey, Arizona, it's warm all

0:50:41.360 --> 0:50:43.359
<v Speaker 3>the time. We've got a bunch of attractive humans here

0:50:43.400 --> 0:50:46.440
<v Speaker 3>from southern California attending come on, come on down, come

0:50:46.480 --> 0:50:49.520
<v Speaker 3>on over, and so you can dip into Texas. It's

0:50:49.520 --> 0:50:53.239
<v Speaker 3>also like an underrated home field advantage if people show

0:50:53.360 --> 0:50:56.760
<v Speaker 3>up in that it's far away. Tucson's not the easiest

0:50:56.760 --> 0:50:59.200
<v Speaker 3>place to get to for all of these schools, like

0:50:59.280 --> 0:51:01.880
<v Speaker 3>a weird night games in the desert. I think it

0:51:01.920 --> 0:51:04.440
<v Speaker 3>can get like low key hostel in Tucson. In the

0:51:04.480 --> 0:51:07.400
<v Speaker 3>right circumstance, they'll rush the field before they lose, like

0:51:07.440 --> 0:51:10.800
<v Speaker 3>all sorts of things happen with Arizona games. So I

0:51:10.840 --> 0:51:13.000
<v Speaker 3>think there's like a secret home field advantage there in

0:51:13.000 --> 0:51:13.879
<v Speaker 3>the right circumstance.

0:51:15.040 --> 0:51:20.640
<v Speaker 4>Lance lpol at Kansas, Yeah, went two to ten. That

0:51:20.760 --> 0:51:22.759
<v Speaker 4>is an improvement by two games over the h to

0:51:22.880 --> 0:51:29.040
<v Speaker 4>nine campaign in twenty twenty. I love Lance Lipold. Uh Oh,

0:51:30.080 --> 0:51:32.759
<v Speaker 4>I am not able to be objective when it comes

0:51:32.800 --> 0:51:33.720
<v Speaker 4>to Lance Lightpold.

0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Hm.

0:51:34.680 --> 0:51:37.600
<v Speaker 4>I love the higher, I love the higher. This is

0:51:37.640 --> 0:51:41.560
<v Speaker 4>a serious football coach, a serious It's not a pr

0:51:41.680 --> 0:51:46.640
<v Speaker 4>stunt like when they hired Charlie Weiss or less Miles.

0:51:46.920 --> 0:51:49.720
<v Speaker 3>Right and David Beaty was inexperience and they took a chance.

0:51:49.760 --> 0:51:52.560
<v Speaker 3>But like Lance Leipold has won as a head coach. Yeah,

0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:53.680
<v Speaker 3>this is a serious guy.

0:51:54.239 --> 0:51:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

0:51:54.760 --> 0:51:56.440
<v Speaker 4>This is a serious guy who knows how to run

0:51:56.480 --> 0:51:59.880
<v Speaker 4>a football program. Now, Kansas is not without obvious to

0:52:00.000 --> 0:52:03.759
<v Speaker 4>dis advantages. It's still pretty much a basketball school, but

0:52:04.520 --> 0:52:06.840
<v Speaker 4>there's at least a glimmer of success back in the

0:52:06.840 --> 0:52:10.680
<v Speaker 4>man Gino era when Kansas proved that as a football program, Yeah.

0:52:10.480 --> 0:52:12.640
<v Speaker 1>They can go to an Orange Bowl right.

0:52:12.560 --> 0:52:18.040
<v Speaker 4>Like there, it's doable and perhaps even more doable looking

0:52:18.040 --> 0:52:21.719
<v Speaker 4>out ahead as Texas and Oklahoma are going to be

0:52:22.200 --> 0:52:25.920
<v Speaker 4>exiting stage right going over to the SEC. So it's

0:52:26.040 --> 0:52:29.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, there's an opportunity I think for Kansas to

0:52:29.520 --> 0:52:31.880
<v Speaker 4>try and just build something on the ground floor and

0:52:32.520 --> 0:52:34.880
<v Speaker 4>try to get respectable, try to get to the stage

0:52:34.920 --> 0:52:37.200
<v Speaker 4>where maybe they can get to a bowl game again.

0:52:37.239 --> 0:52:38.840
<v Speaker 1>I think it's there. I think it's doable.

0:52:39.280 --> 0:52:43.600
<v Speaker 4>It's really a talent issue at Kansas. They need talent.

0:52:44.560 --> 0:52:46.640
<v Speaker 4>They need to work on roster construction.

0:52:47.320 --> 0:52:54.160
<v Speaker 3>Yes, of course, roster wrinkles. Roster wrinkles. Kansas dramatically improved

0:52:54.160 --> 0:52:58.160
<v Speaker 3>on offense behind that young backfield at quarterback and running back,

0:52:58.239 --> 0:53:00.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, scoring all the points that they did, especially

0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:01.120
<v Speaker 3>later on in the season.

0:53:01.160 --> 0:53:01.919
<v Speaker 4>The Texas win.

0:53:02.280 --> 0:53:05.239
<v Speaker 3>Dramatically improve on offense, got worse on defense for sure,

0:53:05.320 --> 0:53:08.160
<v Speaker 3>which was kind of tricky based on where they were.

0:53:08.400 --> 0:53:10.160
<v Speaker 3>Defense is going to take a minute, but they were

0:53:10.200 --> 0:53:13.239
<v Speaker 3>competitive in those you know, they win what was it,

0:53:13.320 --> 0:53:15.560
<v Speaker 3>one of their last five games? I believe right, they

0:53:15.560 --> 0:53:17.879
<v Speaker 3>win one of their last five, But those last two

0:53:17.920 --> 0:53:22.279
<v Speaker 3>losses were competitive against TCU an incredibly down TCU, and

0:53:22.320 --> 0:53:25.000
<v Speaker 3>I would argue a pretty disappointing West Virginia back half

0:53:25.040 --> 0:53:27.640
<v Speaker 3>of the season, but still be in a place to

0:53:27.640 --> 0:53:30.440
<v Speaker 3>be competitive, have your team up for games to potentially

0:53:30.480 --> 0:53:32.640
<v Speaker 3>beat teams that are in what we believe to be

0:53:32.640 --> 0:53:37.360
<v Speaker 3>better spots as a program. So I'm I'm encouraged. I

0:53:37.400 --> 0:53:39.959
<v Speaker 3>don't know the heights that what I see as Lance

0:53:40.040 --> 0:53:43.319
<v Speaker 3>Lipold in the open floor is just going for it,

0:53:43.440 --> 0:53:46.920
<v Speaker 3>getting swatted, going for it, getting stripped, going for it,

0:53:47.000 --> 0:53:52.360
<v Speaker 3>getting blocked hard, but still attacking, still knowing that, you know,

0:53:52.480 --> 0:53:55.040
<v Speaker 3>maybe there is going to be pity, applause and pity

0:53:55.120 --> 0:53:57.239
<v Speaker 3>cheers when he finally does make a layup when they're

0:53:57.239 --> 0:53:59.319
<v Speaker 3>down thirty eight at the end of a game. But

0:53:59.360 --> 0:54:01.520
<v Speaker 3>he made the layup, and then maybe next game he's

0:54:01.560 --> 0:54:03.640
<v Speaker 3>making a couple of those layups, and maybe the next

0:54:03.680 --> 0:54:06.600
<v Speaker 3>game he's pump faking one of those guys who's swatting him.

0:54:06.840 --> 0:54:14.720
<v Speaker 3>So progress, fearlessness, experience, and resilience is what I'm seeing

0:54:14.880 --> 0:54:19.239
<v Speaker 3>Lance Leipold in the open floor. He's not Duncan. He's

0:54:19.280 --> 0:54:22.080
<v Speaker 3>probably not. He doesn't have a finger roll. But I

0:54:22.080 --> 0:54:24.719
<v Speaker 3>think there can be an efficiency and a resilience to

0:54:25.320 --> 0:54:27.680
<v Speaker 3>his attitude towards finishing at the hoop.

0:54:28.640 --> 0:54:31.880
<v Speaker 4>I agree with you. I also think that there is

0:54:32.000 --> 0:54:37.360
<v Speaker 4>reason for optimism because of Jalen Daniels. Sure their quarterback

0:54:37.719 --> 0:54:39.200
<v Speaker 4>m Is he related to.

0:54:39.200 --> 0:54:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Jaden Daniels, I don't believe.

0:54:41.160 --> 0:54:41.239
<v Speaker 2>So.

0:54:41.520 --> 0:54:45.920
<v Speaker 4>Both are from southern California, but pretty common last name. Yeah,

0:54:46.040 --> 0:54:48.440
<v Speaker 4>not to be confused with Jaden Daniels, who is transferring,

0:54:49.440 --> 0:54:52.160
<v Speaker 4>presumably not to Kansas. But Jalen Daniels is a guy

0:54:52.200 --> 0:54:55.919
<v Speaker 4>who I think folks are excited about. You know, saw

0:54:56.880 --> 0:55:01.720
<v Speaker 4>limited action, but in that limited action, it's pretty good. Yep.

0:55:04.080 --> 0:55:05.759
<v Speaker 1>So it just seems to me.

0:55:05.880 --> 0:55:09.520
<v Speaker 4>The fact that this is a guy who has been

0:55:09.560 --> 0:55:14.359
<v Speaker 4>there before, he knows the fundamentals. This is not a

0:55:14.400 --> 0:55:19.040
<v Speaker 4>Tomahawk jam situation. This is not a three sixty Ali

0:55:19.080 --> 0:55:22.560
<v Speaker 4>Oop situation. This is it?

0:55:22.600 --> 0:55:25.279
<v Speaker 3>Is it always Ali you? This is a I grew

0:55:25.360 --> 0:55:26.840
<v Speaker 3>up on the West coast, u East coast? Is it

0:55:26.880 --> 0:55:28.600
<v Speaker 3>ali Oop on the on the East coast?

0:55:28.600 --> 0:55:31.319
<v Speaker 4>Because I always heard Alley oop oh, I've done alley

0:55:31.360 --> 0:55:34.200
<v Speaker 4>oop oh. Okay, I didn't know it could be a

0:55:34.239 --> 0:55:38.959
<v Speaker 4>regional difference. He's not doing any of those frills. Lance

0:55:39.080 --> 0:55:41.000
<v Speaker 4>lpol just knows that you need five guys on.

0:55:40.960 --> 0:55:41.959
<v Speaker 1>The court at the same time.

0:55:42.360 --> 0:55:45.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, all right, let's start at square one. These are

0:55:45.320 --> 0:55:47.719
<v Speaker 4>the rules. A bucket is worth two points unless it's

0:55:47.719 --> 0:55:50.200
<v Speaker 4>worth three, unless it's worth one. Right, Like, he knows

0:55:50.280 --> 0:55:54.200
<v Speaker 4>the rules, and he knows all the things that you

0:55:54.280 --> 0:55:56.680
<v Speaker 4>need to in order to start building a basketball team.

0:55:56.880 --> 0:55:59.279
<v Speaker 4>It's not even about the dunk for Lance Lpole. This

0:55:59.320 --> 0:56:01.880
<v Speaker 4>is what Kansas needs. This is the kind of guy

0:56:01.920 --> 0:56:04.520
<v Speaker 4>that Kansas needs. They don't need the pr stunt. They

0:56:04.520 --> 0:56:08.040
<v Speaker 4>needs somebody who knows the freakin' rules. So I'm not

0:56:08.080 --> 0:56:09.920
<v Speaker 4>even gonna play the game with Lance Lightpold. I'm not

0:56:09.920 --> 0:56:11.879
<v Speaker 4>gonna worry about is he dunk and is he laying

0:56:11.960 --> 0:56:14.080
<v Speaker 4>it up? He just knows how many guys need to

0:56:14.080 --> 0:56:16.320
<v Speaker 4>be out there, and I think that's a great starting

0:56:16.320 --> 0:56:19.600
<v Speaker 4>point for Kansas. So I remained very optimistic about the program.

0:56:20.000 --> 0:56:22.279
<v Speaker 4>I think he will build this thing at least make

0:56:22.440 --> 0:56:25.319
<v Speaker 4>it look like it is somewhat organized. That will be

0:56:25.360 --> 0:56:29.960
<v Speaker 4>a huge market improvement from where it's been at I

0:56:29.960 --> 0:56:34.719
<v Speaker 4>think Lance Leipold at Kansas trying to hurl this Kansas

0:56:34.719 --> 0:56:35.840
<v Speaker 4>body towards the hoop.

0:56:36.200 --> 0:56:39.360
<v Speaker 3>He's torn in achilles, he's been poked in the eye,

0:56:39.800 --> 0:56:44.680
<v Speaker 3>and he's you know, ruptured a disc he's had. He's

0:56:44.719 --> 0:56:48.800
<v Speaker 3>definitely had plant or fasciitis issues. So he's he's hurling,

0:56:48.840 --> 0:56:52.400
<v Speaker 3>he's you know, rolling down the court with knee braces,

0:56:52.680 --> 0:56:56.720
<v Speaker 3>with ankle braces, with rexpecs. But he's out there, nothing's

0:56:56.800 --> 0:56:57.439
<v Speaker 3>keeping him down.

0:56:57.600 --> 0:56:59.759
<v Speaker 4>Is he the kind of guy in the pickup game

0:56:59.760 --> 0:57:03.960
<v Speaker 4>who is calling Fels hmmm?

0:57:05.360 --> 0:57:05.520
<v Speaker 2>No.

0:57:05.760 --> 0:57:08.279
<v Speaker 3>I think he is the one who is barreling over

0:57:08.360 --> 0:57:11.319
<v Speaker 3>people doing anything it takes to get to the hoop,

0:57:11.480 --> 0:57:13.799
<v Speaker 3>and is playing a little.

0:57:13.520 --> 0:57:17.520
<v Speaker 4>Bit too rough. Not Colin Fels, Okay, not Colline.

0:57:18.600 --> 0:57:20.520
<v Speaker 3>Interesting, he's the one saying I thought we were men

0:57:20.600 --> 0:57:24.479
<v Speaker 3>here as a men's game, the boys game.

0:57:24.600 --> 0:57:28.360
<v Speaker 4>Okay. Any other coaches you want to hit very quickly

0:57:28.400 --> 0:57:33.760
<v Speaker 4>Gus Melson yep. Malson went nine and four mm hmm

0:57:33.880 --> 0:57:35.680
<v Speaker 4>in year one at UCF. I think it was even

0:57:35.680 --> 0:57:39.240
<v Speaker 4>more impressive because he lost his quarterback, yeah, and was

0:57:39.280 --> 0:57:43.920
<v Speaker 4>sort of doing things on the fly. I'm more optimistic

0:57:43.920 --> 0:57:45.800
<v Speaker 4>about that than I was initially.

0:57:45.520 --> 0:57:48.160
<v Speaker 3>I think he can dunk. Yeah, I think Gus Malson's

0:57:48.200 --> 0:57:52.280
<v Speaker 3>dunking in Orlando. There's a lightness to Gus Melson, the

0:57:52.680 --> 0:57:56.240
<v Speaker 3>connections to high schools across the South, the local connections

0:57:56.240 --> 0:58:00.360
<v Speaker 3>to high schools in Florida and Central Florida, and has

0:58:00.400 --> 0:58:04.680
<v Speaker 3>that reputation of developing interesting offenses. I don't know, the

0:58:04.760 --> 0:58:07.680
<v Speaker 3>quarterback reputation probably isn't there. But I think it's going

0:58:07.760 --> 0:58:09.160
<v Speaker 3>to be a talented team. And you look at the

0:58:09.160 --> 0:58:16.360
<v Speaker 3>American songs, Sunny Dikes, Sons Songs, Sands Hall, I think

0:58:16.360 --> 0:58:20.520
<v Speaker 3>it's songs songs, Sonny Dikes, like I look, Luke Fickle's

0:58:20.520 --> 0:58:23.680
<v Speaker 3>gonna be around for at least a little bit. I

0:58:23.880 --> 0:58:26.800
<v Speaker 3>just the competition and the American To me, it's set

0:58:26.920 --> 0:58:28.240
<v Speaker 3>up pretty nicely.

0:58:28.400 --> 0:58:29.040
<v Speaker 4>Like Navy.

0:58:29.240 --> 0:58:30.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if they're ever getting back to an

0:58:30.680 --> 0:58:35.120
<v Speaker 3>interesting place to where they were. I'm kind of optimistic

0:58:35.160 --> 0:58:38.520
<v Speaker 3>that UCF can really solidify itself now. Houston is I

0:58:38.520 --> 0:58:40.960
<v Speaker 3>think certainly going to be in that conversation moving forward,

0:58:41.400 --> 0:58:46.800
<v Speaker 3>But I don't know. In like ECUs fine, Tulsa can

0:58:46.880 --> 0:58:49.320
<v Speaker 3>be fine. Like I don't know how much I'm threatened

0:58:49.560 --> 0:58:52.320
<v Speaker 3>by the totality of the American right now, and I

0:58:52.360 --> 0:58:53.880
<v Speaker 3>think UCF can challenge for it.

0:58:54.280 --> 0:58:57.760
<v Speaker 4>I think out. I think this is a dunk sort

0:58:57.760 --> 0:58:59.959
<v Speaker 4>of like we would see in the actual NBA Allso

0:59:00.080 --> 0:59:02.560
<v Speaker 4>Our Game, where yeah, guys are just running around duncan

0:59:03.640 --> 0:59:08.120
<v Speaker 4>guys are running around taking five steps without dribbling. Yeah,

0:59:08.160 --> 0:59:09.560
<v Speaker 4>and nobody's playing any defense.

0:59:10.120 --> 0:59:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:59:10.600 --> 0:59:13.880
<v Speaker 3>Ah, that's not fair. That's not fully in the NBA

0:59:13.920 --> 0:59:17.080
<v Speaker 3>All Star Game. No, I know, I'm saying to compare

0:59:17.160 --> 0:59:20.920
<v Speaker 3>to UCF where it's just wide open show body type dunks.

0:59:21.920 --> 0:59:24.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I'm that far with gusmels On.

0:59:24.440 --> 0:59:27.680
<v Speaker 3>I more look at Gus Melson as like he went

0:59:27.760 --> 0:59:30.360
<v Speaker 3>keto and lost forty five pounds and his vertical increased

0:59:30.400 --> 0:59:33.200
<v Speaker 3>by four inches. And in this case, I suppose the

0:59:33.560 --> 0:59:36.760
<v Speaker 3>bad fats and belly fats and subcutaneous fats are all

0:59:36.800 --> 0:59:40.680
<v Speaker 3>Auburn related. I don't know that's the weight he lost.

0:59:40.720 --> 0:59:42.960
<v Speaker 3>They're like, oh man, my vertical increased by four inches

0:59:43.000 --> 0:59:48.120
<v Speaker 3>since I left Auburn. That there is just a likeness

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<v Speaker 3>to Gus Melson.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>They still won games this year after losing Dylan Gabriel.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't always pretty. It was absolutely not always freety,

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<v Speaker 3>but what you see af the the offense was notice

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<v Speaker 3>worse from where it was when Dylan Gabriel and Josh

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<v Speaker 3>Hipel joined forces in twenty twenty. The defense was noticeably better.

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<v Speaker 3>They finished the year out winning four or five. They

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<v Speaker 3>were not competitive against SMU, but I mean, and those

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<v Speaker 3>four of the four wins were against bad teams. But

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<v Speaker 3>that's what you should do. You should beat bad teams,

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<v Speaker 3>even when you're beat up. So I'm high on UCF

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<v Speaker 3>and the gus bus to.

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<v Speaker 4>Get what he got out of Mikey Keene at a

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<v Speaker 4>moment's notice. Yeah, after Dylan Gabriel went down, I thought

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<v Speaker 4>it was actually quite impressive. Maybe the reputation isn't too

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<v Speaker 4>maybe the reputation is not there a quarterback. I agree, right,

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm not saying Mikey Keen is like a Heisman

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<v Speaker 4>front runner. I'm not. No, that's okay. They did a

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<v Speaker 4>good job with him, They did a good job maximizing

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<v Speaker 4>what they could get out of them. I'm high.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, take that out of contest context.

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<v Speaker 4>Final one here, Final one Vandy and clerk Lee, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>where are you at with Vanny and Clarkly? You were

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<v Speaker 4>very high in Clarkly. I was not Higan Clarkly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. Vandy's offense was decently better,

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<v Speaker 3>the defense was decently better. They lose their final five.

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<v Speaker 3>They gave a decent fight to Miszoo in a losing

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<v Speaker 3>effort in those last five games. I think it's just

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to take a while. It's I think he

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<v Speaker 3>is not dunking, but I think he can get to

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<v Speaker 3>a place where he is. He is a contributing member

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<v Speaker 3>of a fast break. He's not necessarily finishing strong, but

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<v Speaker 3>he's getting hockey assists. He's getting the ball to the

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<v Speaker 3>guy getting it to the ball who's dunking it. He

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<v Speaker 3>is a true glue guy, and so I think he

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<v Speaker 3>can turn Vandy into a decent contributing member of the SEC.

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<v Speaker 3>That might mean winning four games a year, it might

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<v Speaker 3>mean winning five to six and a half games a

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<v Speaker 3>year or something.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think he.

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<v Speaker 3>Can get this program because I think there is an

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<v Speaker 3>unusual amount of buy in in that there are not

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<v Speaker 3>that many Vandy guys who had the profile that clark

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<v Speaker 3>Lee had when he was at Notre Dame. That he

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<v Speaker 3>is not somebody who is looking to get the most

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<v Speaker 3>out of Andy and quickly flip it into another job.

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<v Speaker 3>He wants to build sustained success. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>a different approach than a lot of guys would have

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<v Speaker 3>at a place like Vandy. And so yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 3>he can turn he himself in the open floor. Is

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<v Speaker 3>not necessarily finishing strong, but is that is a glue

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<v Speaker 3>member of a fast break.

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<v Speaker 4>He's almost playing by different rules at Randy instead of

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<v Speaker 4>this being a game where he's trying to dunk. Maybe

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<v Speaker 4>he's just getting really good at playing horse. Maybe he's

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<v Speaker 4>got a specific shot that he knows is difficult, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and he can put an an O or an S

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<v Speaker 4>on the board to make things interesting along the way.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe it's you knoww he throws it down, bounces it

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<v Speaker 4>up for a basketball. Maybe he's got some sort of

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<v Speaker 4>weird angle. Maybe he's shooting back over the backboard. Have

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<v Speaker 4>you done that? You've done that right kind of of course,

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<v Speaker 4>So you're shooting back over it's a hard shot to make.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe Clark Lee is trying to get really good at one.

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<v Speaker 1>Of those gimmick type things.

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<v Speaker 3>He's running a full court press system. It's just where

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<v Speaker 3>lot yeah, a little bit different. He's playing by different

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<v Speaker 3>rules marching to his own drummer. He's at a place

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<v Speaker 3>like Vandy, which it's tough to win at Vandy. Yep,

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<v Speaker 3>it is tough to win. And I think to your point,

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<v Speaker 3>Vandy people are okay with that.

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<v Speaker 4>They're okay with that.

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<v Speaker 3>To a baseball school, they're okay with that.

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<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm. It's just gonna be a little different. Maybe

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<v Speaker 4>we don't grade this on the same skill. So I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not even thinking in terms of dunkstand. I'm thinking in

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<v Speaker 4>terms of is this a guy who can challenge when

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<v Speaker 4>we're horse and I think if you give him a

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<v Speaker 4>few years, which they have to do, he's a Vandy

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<v Speaker 4>gutta have to. I think that, yeah, I think that

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<v Speaker 4>he can get them playing better. We did see improvement

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<v Speaker 4>near one, he saw improvement. If we continue to see improvement,

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<v Speaker 4>then yeah, maybe we get to the point where we're

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<v Speaker 4>talking about, all right, maybe maybe we can dunk on

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<v Speaker 4>an eight foot rim. But for now, just getting the

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<v Speaker 4>ball in the hoop, making it look interesting, giving people

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<v Speaker 4>a reason to feel good about things.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's where we're at.

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<v Speaker 3>Quickly, Boise State, Utah State will hit Mountain West quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Blake Anderson's dunking. I just think he's going

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<v Speaker 3>to have Utah State in a good place. We saw

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<v Speaker 3>how often he won at Arkansas State. We see the

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<v Speaker 3>not the issues, but the up and down nature of

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<v Speaker 3>the Mountain West, with you know, Kaylin Debora leaving in

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<v Speaker 3>San Diego State still not being able to field an

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<v Speaker 3>offense no matter who their coach is, and San Jose

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<v Speaker 3>State going downhill, Hawaii going downhill. Like, there's just a

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<v Speaker 3>number of factors here that I think there's a vacuum

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<v Speaker 3>and Utah State, yes, there was. It was such an

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<v Speaker 3>incredible low with Gary Anderson being brought back in and

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<v Speaker 3>then leaving the way that he did. I think there's stability.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's excitement. I think they'll hit the they'll

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<v Speaker 3>continue to hit the portal hard. I have Blake Anderson

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<v Speaker 3>as an unsplashy, successful dunker in that specific gym.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, how about.

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<v Speaker 3>That Boise a little bit less so, But I think

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<v Speaker 3>there's a creativity to Boise and Andy avlos So. Boise's offense, Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>it regressed a bit, but the defense improved decently. They

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<v Speaker 3>won four of their last five to finish. I know

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<v Speaker 3>there's the roster is not I don't believe in an

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<v Speaker 3>amazing place. But I think Andy Avlos will utilize speed

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<v Speaker 3>and creativity to get to the hoop more often than

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<v Speaker 3>not and be an asset to a team that likes

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<v Speaker 3>to run.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, what's interesting to me is we don't have any

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<v Speaker 4>Tomahawk jams here.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have any. We don't don't have any.

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<v Speaker 4>Star studded dunkers in this I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think I think we could get an occasional flashy dunk

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<v Speaker 3>from Tennessee. I think we can get an occasional flashy

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<v Speaker 3>dunk from Texas. I think Tennessee will we'll be playing

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<v Speaker 3>above the rim more often than Texas.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 3>I yeah, I don't have a surefire. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>have UCF and Utah State as dunkers. But no, it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's there. There is a big man in both of

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<v Speaker 3>their ways. None of these guys are getting in the

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<v Speaker 3>dunk contest, at least not at this juncture. They could

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<v Speaker 3>get there, sure if Jed Fish keeps wearing the shoes,

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<v Speaker 3>who knows. But yeah, we're not there yet.

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<v Speaker 4>No, we're not. Can I say what you normally say?

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<v Speaker 1>Please?

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<v Speaker 4>Fun show? Yeah, that's my line. I know it was

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<v Speaker 4>a good show. It was a good show I had

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<v Speaker 4>for five minutes. Notice this is a pretty good Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I uh, I missed basketball camp. I was a good

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<v Speaker 3>little player, tie I was. Basketball is an incredibly fun

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<v Speaker 3>sport to be and I peaked when I was nine

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<v Speaker 3>or ten years old, to be clear. But it was

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<v Speaker 3>an incredibly fun sport to be way better than my

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<v Speaker 3>friends at that's bad English. I like I could cross

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<v Speaker 3>up my friends when I was in elementary school and

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<v Speaker 3>I could toy with them, And it's a really fun sport.

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<v Speaker 3>Like Baseball's pretty fun, but you need a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 3>Baseball's fun. Football's fund. You need a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 3>but you can torch people, you know, receiver or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Basketball is that one on one mentality where you could

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<v Speaker 3>really goof on your friends and toy with them.

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<v Speaker 4>And that was that was me. When I was nine

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<v Speaker 4>or ten, I had a basketball hoop out back. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that we're pretty certain was actually at eleven feet. Well

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<v Speaker 4>you're also a shorter guy. No no, no, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 4>no no, no, nothing to do with it. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 4>had friends who were very good at basketball. Oh okay,

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<v Speaker 4>we were all certain that the hoop was too high.

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<v Speaker 4>It could have been because the driveway was on a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit of an angle. That'll contribute, but it may

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<v Speaker 4>have been over ten feet. It was always tougher to

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<v Speaker 4>come to the tie home and play backyard basketball.

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<v Speaker 3>The thing you missed out on, well, that is a

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<v Speaker 3>nice home court advantage.

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<v Speaker 4>The eleven foot hoop.

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<v Speaker 1>It was huge. It was huge.

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<v Speaker 4>You can talk to mom h about. There was also

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<v Speaker 4>a power line that was in the way if you

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<v Speaker 4>shot from the left corner. Yeah, there was a power

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<v Speaker 4>line that got in the way, and so you had

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<v Speaker 4>a sort of like you had to rifle it to

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<v Speaker 4>get under the wire. You had to go like a

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<v Speaker 4>punch shot and go off, or you had a really

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<v Speaker 4>rainbow it, which was tough because you were playing uphill

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<v Speaker 4>to avoid the power lines.

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<v Speaker 3>The thing you missed out on by not concentrating on

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<v Speaker 3>basketball maybe I don't know, if you went to baseball camp,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what if you'd had any sports camp experience, sure,

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<v Speaker 3>but the cornerstone part for me of going to basketball

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<v Speaker 3>camp and you would have somebody host the camp, right

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<v Speaker 3>it would be the coach of a local team or

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<v Speaker 3>a player that's from the area or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>It was an easy way to make a buck. I

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<v Speaker 3>assume is the visiting speakers. So I went to Jack Haley,

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<v Speaker 3>who was like the thirteenth man on the Bulls, and

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<v Speaker 3>I went to his camp at a couple different local

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<v Speaker 3>schools and he would bring in the basketball players he knew,

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<v Speaker 3>but they wouldn't be and he did. Okay, he brought

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<v Speaker 3>in Dennis Rodman and that was rad. But other than

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<v Speaker 3>Dennis Rodman, it would be like Don McClain who was

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<v Speaker 3>like a very solid jumpshooter for UCLA and had a

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<v Speaker 3>solid NBA career, but like, there was nothing about Don

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<v Speaker 3>McClain's game that would really translate to like a nine

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<v Speaker 3>year old. There was nothing flashy or impressive about getting

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<v Speaker 3>a Don McClain signe basketball. But you'd get all these

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<v Speaker 3>guys speaking and maybe they're being paid whatever they were,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they was doing favors for their friends that

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<v Speaker 3>like you could have gone to like a laugh like

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<v Speaker 3>a Frano and Lynn Lafayette basketball camp, and you just

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<v Speaker 3>missed the lessons of like a random Patriot League shooting

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<v Speaker 3>guard or like calling in a favor and getting like

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<v Speaker 3>Dana Barrows to come speak out like your Lehigh basketball camp,

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<v Speaker 3>and like any of these guys. When you are that age, like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh man, this guy is the ten. The average is

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<v Speaker 3>four point eight points for the Philadelphia seventy six ers.

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<v Speaker 3>And they would come and they would like sometimes play

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<v Speaker 3>against other kids, and so then all the other campers

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<v Speaker 3>would watch, like oh when a kid would score a

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<v Speaker 3>basket over an NBA player, And there were I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>Michael Jordan has a camp and they're like those famous

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<v Speaker 3>videos of that too. But of going to like these

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<v Speaker 3>very regional camps, and like I went to a Lorenzo Romar,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Pepperdine UCLA.

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<v Speaker 4>Like he went.

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<v Speaker 3>He would like bring kids up and he's the coach

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<v Speaker 3>of Pepperdine and they would kill time where he would

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<v Speaker 3>just juke eleven year olds like fifty on your old

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<v Speaker 3>Lorenzo Romar, and everybody would have a blast watching these

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<v Speaker 3>kids trip all over the place. That was the formative

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<v Speaker 3>experience that you missed out on not going to basketball camp.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, any NBA player, even the guy who scores like

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<v Speaker 4>two points, oh man on the open floor with oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>nobody can testing a shot well.

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<v Speaker 3>Like also, these NBA players are not used to being

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<v Speaker 3>celebrated because they're the guys at some of these camps.

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<v Speaker 3>Right the seventh man, the ninth man or something like that,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they would have like a counselor rebound for

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<v Speaker 3>them as they would put up seventeen footers and make

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<v Speaker 3>all of them. Because they were NBA players shooting uncontested

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen footers and you're watching them, they're like, this guy

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<v Speaker 3>should be way more famous. He's hitting every seventeen footer

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<v Speaker 3>without anybody guarding him. Yeah, meanwhile, he's shooting a thousand

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<v Speaker 3>of them a day. So it was just it was

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<v Speaker 3>an incredible experience as.

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<v Speaker 4>A little one.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all send your kids to basketball.

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<v Speaker 4>Camp the halcyon days, Dan of Sports, I had to

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<v Speaker 4>look up fran O'Hanlon's name. I didn't. That was not

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<v Speaker 4>an easy poll for me. That's a deep cut, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a picture of it there. Nice.

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<v Speaker 4>Just got to do a few quick, free and easy

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<v Speaker 3>I'm learning about fran o'hanlin as we speak. He's been

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<v Speaker 3>the Lafayette coach since nineteen ninety five. Yeah, yeah, he

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, he was the Venezuelan League champion as

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<v Speaker 3>a coach in nineteen eighty three. He runs Venezuela shout

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<v Speaker 3>out Caracas. Oh my god, Odd, what a resume she's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna bring.

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<v Speaker 4>We should do as an off topic show, like an

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<v Speaker 4>old school sports episode, where either we bring on somebody

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<v Speaker 4>who runs just shout names at each other. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>somebody who runs a podcast on either the basketball, football

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<v Speaker 4>or soccer soccer baseball side and just talk talk it

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<v Speaker 4>out like in the early nineties.

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<v Speaker 3>We can just select a year. Yeah, we can just

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<v Speaker 3>select nineteen ninety four, nineteen ninety two and just discuss

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<v Speaker 3>the year in sports. Yeah, and every single story. Ninety

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<v Speaker 3>two would be nice because he got the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 1>Olympics. Ye, dream team stream team right, that was dream team.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Fran Ohnlin is or we have on Frano Handlin.

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<v Speaker 3>So he has been the coach for if my math

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<v Speaker 3>serves about twenty seven years. Yeah, Fran Ohnlin's tenure at

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<v Speaker 3>Lafayette is old enough to rent a car.

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<v Speaker 4>That's good for Fran. For that guy over there, my

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<v Speaker 4>good friend Dan Rubinstein. From myself, Tie hilden Brand, thanks

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<v Speaker 4>so much for downloading, listening, playing along with our madness

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