1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're back 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: from Door County, Wisconsin, full of spotted cow at, cheese curds, 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: and newly friends with a goat named Natcho. It's Monday, 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: August twenty fifth, and on today show, we'll be talking 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: to Michelle Laflam, the senior manager for World Para Hockey, 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: about the first ever Women's Para Hockey World Championship, which 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: gets underway this week, why the sports open gender label 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: hasn't helped with the development of the women's game, and 9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: her ambitious goals looking ahead to the twenty thirty Paralympics. 10 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: Plus rising temps meet rising tempers, triple doubling and hat 11 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: tricking with speed, and it's time to hang another plaque 12 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: in the Good Game Hall of Fame. It's all coming 13 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: up right after this Welcome back slices, Happy Monday. Here's 14 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: what you need to know today. Let's start with the 15 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: NWSL where a new attendance record was set. On Saturday. 16 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: AFC welcomed a sold out crowd of forty ninety one 17 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: people to Oracle Park, home of the MLB's San Francisco Giants, 18 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: for their match with the Washington Spirit. The mark broke 19 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: the previous NWSL record of thirty five thousand, set during 20 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: a Chicago Stars BFC game at Wrigley Field in June 21 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: of last year. BAFC ended up losing the match three 22 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: to two, and the team is now winless in its 23 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: last six games, but not all bad news. In addition 24 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: to being the best attended NWSL game of all time, 25 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: the match also broke the attendance record for any US 26 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: women's pro sports league. Per ESPN, the NWSL now has 27 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: forty eight of the top fifty most attended games in 28 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: US women's pro sports history. Another record broken in the 29 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: NWSL this weekend, this time by the Chicago Stars. 30 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: Lude Mila. 31 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: The Brazilian striker, scored three goals in ten minutes in 32 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: the Stars game against the North Carolina Current JO on 33 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,559 Speaker 1: Friday to break the NWSL record for fastest hat trick 34 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: in league history. The game ended in a three to 35 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: three draw, with all six goals coming in the second half, 36 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: including Ludmila's equalizer in the eighty sixth minute. More on 37 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: WSL and an update to that heat delayed Casey Current 38 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: Orlando Pride game we told you about last week quick refresher, 39 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: which coincidentally is what the players and fans and attendance 40 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: needed that day. 41 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: But I digress. 42 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 3: So yeah. 43 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: Just over a week ago, a match between the Kansas 44 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: City Current and the Orlando Pride was delayed due to 45 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: extreme heat, with the start pushed back incrementally until the 46 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: match finally kicked off three and a half hours later 47 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: than intended. The game was initially slated to air on 48 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: CBS at three pm Local time four pm Eastern, one 49 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: of eleven regular season matches that CBS was set to 50 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 1: air on network television. Due to the delay, it ended 51 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: up just being streamed on CBS's website and app instead. 52 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: According to new reporting from The Athletic, midway through that 53 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: three and a half hour delay, League Commissioner Jessica Berman 54 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: threatened to find Kansas City due to a disagreement about 55 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: the delay and heat checks. Per the Athletic sources quote, 56 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: Berman told current owners in a phone call that the 57 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: team could be fined for breaking protocols by asking for 58 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: a heat check. After the league decided to go forward 59 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: with the game, Berman said, according to the sources, that 60 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: missing the scheduled broadcast window would cost the NWSL millions 61 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: of dollars end quote. The Athletics report notes that both 62 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: teams initially contacted the league at ten thirty am the 63 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: morning of the game to ask for a postponement, but 64 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: the League denied that request, per the Athletic sources, with 65 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: the game slated to kickoff at three pm local time, 66 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: the wet bulb globe temperature you remember, that's the heat 67 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: index measurement used to determine whether a game is allowed 68 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: to be played, was too high and rising. But about 69 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,119 Speaker 1: forty five minutes after the game was supposed to kick off, 70 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: officials took another reading and it came in at ninety 71 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: one point eight degrees fahrenheit, just below the threshold of 72 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: ninety two point three degrees where a game would be allowed. 73 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: But per the Athletic sources, a cloud was passing overhead 74 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: at the time of the reading, and staff on the 75 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: ground were certain that the temperature would. 76 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 2: Rise again after the cloud passed. 77 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: Kansas City's medical staff contacted league medical staff and advocated 78 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: for taking another reading fifteen minutes later, citing the passing cloud, 79 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: which the league's medical staff agreed to. Sure enough, when 80 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: the next reading was taken fifteen minutes later, the wet 81 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: bulb globe temperature had spiked to ninety five point six degrees, 82 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: triggering another delay. Per the Athletic It was at this 83 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: point that Berman contacted Kansas City owners, warning them that 84 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: they had broken protocol and would be fined, though it 85 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 1: is unclear if the league will follow through on that fine. 86 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: And there's more bad news out of that game. You 87 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: might remember we told you that Once the game finally started, 88 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: Pride star Barbara Banda left the pitch just fifteen minutes 89 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: in with an injury. While testing has revealed she suffered 90 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: what they called a full thickness evulsion of her right 91 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: adductor longest tendon aka a hip adductor tendon injury, and 92 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: now band has been placed on the season ending injury list. 93 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: She was the twenty twenty four NWSL Championship MVP, the 94 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: African Women's Player of the Year last year, and the 95 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: BBC's Women's Footballer of the Year. She's played a huge 96 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: which part in Orlando's success since she joined the team 97 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: in March of twenty twenty four, and of course for 98 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: their championship win last year. In a statement, Pride GM 99 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: Haley Carter said, quote, Barbara has been instrumental to our 100 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: success and losing a player of for caliber is heartbreaking 101 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: for the entire organization. 102 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: End quote. 103 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: Now, the excellent reporting from the Athletic on this game 104 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: is not likely the last we're going to hear about it, 105 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: with criticism of NWSL Commissioner Jessca Berman growing after fallout 106 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: from both this game and the Angel City Utah Royals 107 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: game back in May. That continued despite the on field 108 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: collapse of Savvy King. In fact, one fan on Blue 109 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: Sky reported that they brought a sign that read Berman 110 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: out to this past Saturday's Gotham game and that the 111 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: sign was confiscated. I think the criticism of Berman and 112 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: NWSL leadership this year has been fair, from scheduling issues 113 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: to the tone deaf unwell Supporters Group initiative, and more. 114 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: It feels like the league just hasn't quite been ready 115 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: for the moment. The incredible increased investment in women's sports 116 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: in general has been a blessing, but with it comes 117 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: a ton of response ability for leadership, whether be NWSL 118 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: players and coaches or WNBA players. There's been an uptick 119 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: and folks criticizing their leagues throughout this season's growing pains 120 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: with more teams, more games, longer seasons and more opportunities 121 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: for things like primetime slots and money making events. Commissioners 122 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: for both leagues and their support staff are going to 123 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: need to have to work that much harder to prioritize 124 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: player safety and center player health and wellness. That means 125 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: accounting for increased player security, being intentional about scheduling games 126 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: considering both weather and rest, and a lot more to 127 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: the WNBA. With two and a half weeks left in 128 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: the regular season, we have a little bit more clarity 129 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: on the playoff picture. In the last week, the Connecticut Sun, 130 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: Chicago Sky, and Dallas Wings have all been mathematically eliminated 131 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: from the postseason meantime. As of this recording, the Minnesota 132 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: Links remain the only team to have officially clinched so far. 133 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: That leaves nine teams fighting for seven spots. Behind the Links, 134 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: You've got the Atlanta Dream, Las Vegas Aces, Phoenix Mercury, 135 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: and the New York Liberty have fallen to fifth. 136 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: Also too early to start talking about the. 137 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty six draft, cuz with the teams being eliminated, 138 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: I'm already thinking about the Wings getting lazy for asy 139 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: paisy together again. In the pros, Paige Beecker's Asy Fud 140 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: on a team together again. Forget the amazing basketball, think 141 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: about the content, y'all. 142 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 2: But wait a minute. 143 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: If the Wings take Lauren Betts out of Ucla instead, 144 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: that could mean Azy Fudd's available for my Chicago Sky. 145 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: Forget Paisy now, I'm dreaming of Azy serving up Angel 146 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: in the post. Sorry, sorry, back to this season and 147 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: back to the top ranked Links with the FISA call 148 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: you're still out with injury. Forward Jessica Shepherd has been 149 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: stepping up in a big way for Minnesota. In the 150 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: team's ninety five ninety win over the Indiana Fever on Friday, 151 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: she recorded the fastest triple double in WNBA history, achieving 152 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: the feat in twenty two minutes. In comparison, Alyssa Thomas, 153 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: the WNBA's triple double Queen, recorded her fastest in twenty 154 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: eight minutes back in twenty twenty three. CBAS Sports Jack 155 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: Maloney has a great breakdown of Shepherd's historic night, which 156 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: we'll link to in the show notes. Collier has been 157 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: sidelined for the last seven games, with the Links going 158 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: a fine five and two in her absence, but on 159 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: Sunday night, she announced in og fashion that they wouldn't 160 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: have to win without her anymore. 161 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: Before Minnesota's Sunday night game against the. 162 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: Fever, the team put out a statement mirroring the famous 163 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan facts announcing his return to the NBA. 164 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: The letter read simply quote. 165 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: The following statement was released today by Nafisa Collier through 166 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Links social media team located in Minneapolis, Minnesota, 167 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: in response to questions about her injury status. 168 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 2: Quote unquote, I'm back with a crown emoji and. 169 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: The contact number in the corner of the statement for 170 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: any questions six one two MVP fee. You think she 171 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: hears those footsteps from Asia Wilson and Alissa Thomas, She 172 00:08:55,960 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: sure does. Great to see Nafisa Collier back. And speaking 173 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: of Alissa Thomas, wouldn't you know it, she got another 174 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: triple double soon. We're just gonna have to start telling 175 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: you when she doesn't get a triple double. The Phoenix 176 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 1: Mercury star tied her own single season triple double record 177 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: on Friday night, with her sixth of the year, recording 178 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: thirteen points, twelve rebounds, and sixteen assists in the Mercury's 179 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: eighty one seventy two win over the Golden State Valkyries. 180 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: In that game, Thomas, who is in her first season 181 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: with the Mercury following an eleven year run with the 182 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: Connecticut Sun, tied Phoenix's single game assist record as well. 183 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: Mercury fans flood at the stadium with MVP chants during 184 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: Thomas's impressive outing on Friday night, and they're right, we 185 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: better have her name on the MVP shortlist. We have 186 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: been remiss in not including her. I mean, just listen 187 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: to this stat. Thomas has more triple doubles in her 188 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: last nine games five than any other WNBA player has 189 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: in their entire career. Four for Sabrina and Escu to rugby, 190 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: where the Women's World Cup got underway on Friday, with 191 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: the tenth ranked US Eagles getting routed by host nation 192 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: and tournament favorite England sixty nine to seven, but in 193 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: front of more than forty two thousand fans, which made 194 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: it the best attended game in Women's Rugby World Cup history. 195 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: Next up for the US a chance to redeem themselves 196 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: another group stage match, this time against Australia next Saturday. 197 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: We'll link to the full Rugby World Cup schedule in 198 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: the show notes to tennis. The women's singles draw at 199 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: the US Open got underway on Sunday, with world number 200 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: one Arena Sablenka starting her tournament off with a win 201 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: over Switzerland's Rebecca Masarova. Another noteworthy game, Alexander Iala made 202 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: history becoming the first player representing the Philippines to win 203 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: a major singles match in the Open era, defeating Clara Tawson. 204 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: The first round continues today with Madison Keys, Taylor Townsend, 205 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: and Venus Williams all in action. We'll link to the 206 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: full US Open schedule in the show notes, and if 207 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: you missed it, be sure to check out my interview 208 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: with tennis legend Pam Shreiver live from the US Open 209 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: last week. She did a great job breaking down all 210 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 1: the favorites for this year tournament. 211 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: And I'll be back at. 212 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: The US Open tomorrow on Billy Jean Kings Sweet for 213 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: some more action and maybe another couple Honey juices. Honestly, 214 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: for the amount that I promote this drink, they should 215 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: be paying me Grey Goose call me slices. This weekend, 216 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: my super slice Hobby Brad and I rolled up to 217 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: Wisconsin for the official Dinah Tarassi retirement bench dedication. Brad 218 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: sister Becca and her family are wisconsinnight, so we crashed 219 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: at their place on Friday night, and then they made 220 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: the trek with us to Dora County on Saturday and 221 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: it was a gorgeous, not too hot, sunny, perfect day 222 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 1: for a celebration. I gave out some prizes, I cut 223 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: the big red ribbon and we watched as it was 224 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: put into place on the observation deck looking out at 225 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: the beach at Whitefish Dune State Park. 226 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 2: Got a shout out. 227 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: John from the park who helped us out all day 228 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: and installed it. He told me lots of folks have 229 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: checked in over the last month or so hoping to 230 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: see the bench when they were visiting the park, so 231 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: he's super excited that it's finely in place. Big shout 232 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: out to Sarah who also helped throughout the whole process, 233 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: and a huge thank you to Nacho the Goat and 234 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: his handlers. Nacho not only gamely war Dinah's number three 235 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: Mercury jersey, he also took photos with any and all passerby, 236 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: and he even took a little goat whiz on the 237 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: jersey as well, making it officially game worn. I have 238 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: to decide if I want to wash it before I 239 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: sent it to DT to sign, or if I should 240 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: give it to her appropriately covered in a little goat 241 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: sweat if you will. Some super slices made the trip 242 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: from pretty far places like Madison and Two Rivers and 243 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: hung out afterward at the hitching Boast for some beers 244 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: and snacks and chatted all things good game which was 245 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: super super fun. High fives especially to both Sarah's, Kelly 246 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: Whitney and Emily. I loved getting to hang with you 247 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: all and had a blast at the bench and at 248 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: the hitching post and just taking in all the sights 249 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: of Dori County. A video of the whole day is 250 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: soon to come. We got to take a quick break 251 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: when we come back. 252 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 2: It's Michelle Laflop. 253 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: We caught up with her last week ahead at the 254 00:12:53,880 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: inaugural Women's Para Hockey World Championships. Joining us now, she's 255 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: the Senior Manager for World Para Ice Hockey at the 256 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: International Paralympic Committee. Originally from Montreal, Canada and now based 257 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 1: in Germany, she's worked with the NHL's Ottawa Senators, Hockey Canada, 258 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: the Invictus Games, and the Pan and Para Pan American Games. 259 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: She has degrees in English, Russian and Fine Arts. Has 260 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: won the King Charles the Third Coronation Medal and the 261 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: IPC International Women's Day Award. She was recently named to 262 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: the Leaders Under forty class of twenty twenty five by 263 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: Leaders in Sport. 264 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: It's Michelle laflam Hi, Michelle Hi, Sarah, English, Russian and 265 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 2: Fine Arts. 266 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: I assume you also speak French based on that last 267 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: name in the Canadian roots. 268 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, originally from Montreal. So first language is French and 269 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 4: then just crushed English in college and Russian and university. 270 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, No, biggie, any other languages or are we 271 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: limited to those? 272 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 4: No? Sadly yeah, I've been in Germany for five years 273 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 4: now and it's just it's not getting it. 274 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: Do you want to hear my favorite German word, of course, please, 275 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: vulcan kratzer. 276 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 3: I'll take it. 277 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 2: It means means skyscraper, amazing, just love. 278 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: We're talking to ahead of the first ever Women's Para 279 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: Hockey World Championship, and before we get to that tournament, 280 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: I do want to clarify a couple of things. First, 281 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: we have seen the terms para ice hockey sled hockey, 282 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: sledge hockey. 283 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 2: That's all the same sport, right. 284 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 4: I'm so glad that you ask, especially if this is 285 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 4: in the US. So the official name of the sports 286 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 4: is para ice hockey. In twenty sixteen there was a rebrand, 287 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 4: so we went from sled sled hockey. 288 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 3: To para ice hockey. I always joke. 289 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 4: With Temusay that just like your centimeters and miles and 290 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 4: foot in inches, you'll eventually you'll catch on. But yeah, 291 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 4: it is the same sport, and it is para ice hockey. 292 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: For now, we're insisting on saying sled hockey, and we 293 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: will until we are stubbornly forced to change. I want 294 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: to talk about the history of women's para hockey. What 295 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: are some of the challenges that the sport has face 296 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: in the past. 297 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 4: Yes, I mean a lot of it comes from, I 298 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 4: want to say, I think good intention. So, for those 299 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 4: of you who don't know, pair of ice hockey at 300 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 4: the Paralympics has been an open sport. So basically what 301 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 4: it means is that it's not a mixed sport, so 302 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 4: it's not mandatory that men and women compete. 303 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 3: Together, but it is allowed. 304 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 4: So what's happened is that because there was this door 305 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 4: that was semi open. I don't think anything had been 306 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 4: done at the national level to really grow the sports 307 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 4: by focusing solely on women. So there was always that's 308 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 4: saying of like, well, women can make the team, they're 309 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 4: just not making the roster. I'm like, okay, fair enough, 310 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 4: but it's been it's been thirty years now, so can 311 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 4: we just relook at the situation and try to address 312 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 4: the problem, which is what we've been doing over the 313 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 4: last over the last five years. So yes, I think 314 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 4: one of the main issue was the fact that there 315 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 4: wasn't a real pathway for the women to grow as 316 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 4: an independent team. There was always this dream of maybe 317 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 4: they'll make the roster, but it's just when you look 318 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 4: at the number, it wasn't adding up. 319 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, So, like you said, it's open or co ed. 320 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: At the Paralympics, teams of historically been limited to seventeen players. 321 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: They can expand to eighteen if a woman is included, 322 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: but that hasn't happened very often, right. 323 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 4: No, so we've only ever had three. So the first 324 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 4: the first pair of ice hockey event at the Paralympics 325 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 4: was in nineteen ninety four, so three since nineteen ninety four, 326 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 4: and that's not enough. 327 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: And never never for the US led hockey team or 328 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: no hockey team at the senior national level. 329 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 4: That's right, So never at a World champ Never at 330 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 4: a World Cup or any of those those events. 331 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: No, okay, So since twenty twenty, you've led World Pair 332 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: of Ice Hockey's entire global operations, so grassroots development all 333 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: the way up to the Paralympic winner games, as the 334 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: only full time employee. When you took that job in 335 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, what was your primary assignment or. 336 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: What was the goal when taking the job. 337 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the goal was, here's the federation, let's go. 338 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 4: So basically, we did a strategic plan when I first started, 339 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 4: and one of the priority that we had determined was 340 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 4: development just in general. So we wanted to develop the 341 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 4: women's programs, we wanted to develop our officials, we wanted 342 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 4: to develop new nations that maybe weren't involved in pair 343 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 4: of ice hockey before. So just growing the sport in 344 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 4: general was very a key strategic point for us, and 345 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 4: this is what we've been going since then. Really, so 346 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 4: all of the markets that we can try to hit, 347 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 4: we're trying to target. 348 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: And that's on men's and women's side, correct, Yes, yeah, 349 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: So did you replace someone who was the only full 350 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: time employee or did World Pair of Ice Hockey just 351 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: not really have much infrastructure before you arrived. 352 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 4: So in twenty twenty, I did replace someone who went 353 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 4: on maternity leave. So she has a beautiful family now 354 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 4: and I was able to join in. At that time, 355 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 4: we were two staff, so one manager, one coordinator. Then 356 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 4: of course, good old COVID happened, and then we looked 357 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 4: at the bud and we looked at the finances and 358 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 4: we're like, okay, let's let's see. 359 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 3: What we can do. 360 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 4: And then the coordinator was moved to another sport and 361 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 4: she did fantastic in that new role, and it was 362 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 4: a sport that she really really liked, so it was 363 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 4: a perfect fit for her. And then I just took on, 364 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 4: you know everything, people, fine, Yeah. 365 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: Before we get to the first ever women's World Championship, 366 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the Para Ice Hockey Women's 367 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: World Challenge. So Team USA Para Hockey are the three 368 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: time champions of that event. They've won it every year 369 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: since the inaugural tournament back in twenty twenty two in 370 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: Green Bay, Wisconsin. Who competes in that World Challenge and 371 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: why was it maybe not enough? 372 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, So for us, what we did, like, once we 373 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 4: first established the fact that okay, we need to we 374 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 4: need we need a clear path to get to the Games, 375 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 4: a lot of the information that I think our members 376 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 4: were hearings were incorrect in their interpretation on how to 377 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 4: get to the Games. So we had to really change 378 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 4: the messaging and we had to start literally from scratch. 379 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 3: So we had the. 380 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 4: Option of continuing to hope and wait that national teams 381 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 4: would just appear and then we would have enough to 382 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 4: do a World Championships. And you know, again, we were 383 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 4: doing that strategy for thirty years and it wasn't working. 384 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 4: So we decided to just start small and expand right 385 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 4: because I think the first thing we needed to establish 386 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 4: was what is our market, what is our reality? 387 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 3: Where are the players? 388 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 4: Because there's no way that every sports in the world 389 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 4: have fairly equal amount of male and female athletes. 390 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 3: Except for pair of ice hockey. 391 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 4: Like that's there's no way that women in general just 392 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 4: gathered and decided, you know what, pair of ice hockey 393 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 4: is not for us, So we're just gonna step aside. 394 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 4: No I think the problem was that they didn't know 395 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 4: they could play. So the first thing we had to 396 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 4: do is show them that there's a sport for them 397 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 4: if they're interested in that sport. So that's why we 398 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 4: started with a Challenge. So we didn't have enough teams 399 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 4: to do a World Championships. We didn't have enough knowledge 400 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:05,239 Speaker 4: of the market of again where our athletes were. We 401 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 4: needed to share the information to our existing member that 402 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 4: this was a possibility if they wanted to join us 403 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 4: in that journey. So we started small. We started with 404 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 4: the Women's World Challenge. We said it's going to be 405 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 4: a sanctioned event, so we're going to follow the same 406 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 4: rules as we do at all of our events, but 407 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 4: it's not gonna be a World Championships. So with that 408 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 4: we were able to get USA and Canada. They raise 409 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 4: their hand first, and then when GB Great Britain heard 410 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 4: that this event was starting, then they started their programs, 411 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 4: so they went from zero to a full squad. Then 412 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 4: they competed as a third team, and then we just 413 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 4: told everybody in the world, hey, if you want to play, 414 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 4: we'll make a team of basically renegade athletes that want 415 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 4: to play. Right, So we got one athlete from Latvia 416 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 4: and one from Germany and two from Norway, and we 417 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 4: just assemble the team World. 418 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 3: So that's how the word got out that. 419 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 4: There was a sanctioned event annually that was happening that 420 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 4: women could play. We also went out and recruited all 421 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 4: female officials, so both on and off the ice, the 422 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 4: entire event was led by women. 423 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 3: So that's how we did it. 424 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 4: So we started by getting the word out and now 425 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 4: it's grown to the point where we can officially have 426 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 4: our first World Championship. 427 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: Okay, so I want to talk about the World Championship, 428 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: but I want to mention something. So my producer Alex 429 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: wrote a story for NBC Sports on her turf back 430 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, talking about starting to create this 431 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: Paralympic pipeline for women because of the restrictions around it 432 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: being quote unquote open or co ed, but that not 433 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: really in practice, allowing for very many women to play. 434 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: And to your point, it's almost like there's two problems. 435 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: One was they didn't necessarily think they could play at 436 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: all because they didn't see a lot of women and 437 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: because there weren't women making those final rosters. On the 438 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: other hand, there were women who were playing who were 439 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: running into issues with unclear rules. There was a Swedish 440 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: led hockey player who actually showed up at the two 441 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 1: thousand and six ter Reno Paralympics aiming to play with 442 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: her team and then was told she wasn't able to 443 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: because she was a woman, and she had been under 444 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: the impression that things had been opened, but at one 445 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: point during the nineties the. 446 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 2: Early two thousands, the sport had sort of. 447 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: Switched being only men, but hadn't really been updated to 448 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: the point where she was informed about that before arriving 449 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: at the game, so she had to kind of be 450 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: a cheerleader for her team despite having played with them. 451 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: That sparked this inquiry that allowed them to go back 452 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: to being mixed gender ahead of the twenty ten Vancouver Paralympics, 453 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: but still there were so few women competing that it 454 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: might as well have not been co ed right, which 455 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: leads us back to where you are. Where you're trying 456 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: to create this pipeline where you say, yes, you can play, 457 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: and we're going to make opportunities for you to play 458 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: in the women's space, so that you are guaranteed or 459 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: not guaranteed, but so that you have an option to 460 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: actually make a roster and compete, which brings us to 461 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: this incredible event that's happening for the very first time, 462 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: the Women's World Championships, just a few days in Slovakia. 463 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: So tell us about the Championships. 464 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: Why is this such a big thing, and how did 465 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: that women's development pathway that you started end up increasing 466 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: participation enough to allow for this to happen. 467 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, so really I can't stretch enough how big of 468 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 4: a deal it is, right. I mean, I'm looking at 469 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 4: the numbers and it's going to be a little less 470 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 4: than thirty years after the first ever men's World Championship, 471 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 4: and you know, I compare it with the ICHEF. I 472 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 4: think they had a sixty year gap between their first 473 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 4: men's World champ and their first women's World champ So, 474 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 4: you know, we're getting fifty percent. Thirty years is still 475 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 4: a big difference. Finally we get to, you know, put 476 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 4: an end to this and just say like no, we 477 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 4: now have officially annual Women's World Championship. So that is 478 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 4: amazing and also like a huge thank you to NPC Slovakia, 479 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 4: who is hosting that event. So they're the one who's 480 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 4: putting the event together on the ground, and there have 481 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 4: been great partners of ours and just the fact that 482 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 4: they're welcoming the world to beautiful Doney Cubin where we'll 483 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 4: be going, is just great. So I think when it 484 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 4: comes to you know, how we got there, it's going 485 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 4: to sound silly, but it's repetition, repetition, repetition, Like we 486 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 4: say the same thing to our members over and over 487 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 4: again for the last five years, and still every year 488 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 4: I get like, oh, really women can play, or like, oh, 489 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 4: this year is the first women World Challenge, Like. 490 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 3: Yes, yes it is. Please take notes or read the 491 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 3: minutes that we sent you. 492 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:21,239 Speaker 2: It is. 493 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 3: We are serious about this, please show up right. 494 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 4: So what's been great is that we've got new national 495 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 4: teams now because for the last when we were doing 496 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 4: the Women's World Challenge, we always had USA, Canada and 497 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 4: Great Britain. Now Norway has its own national teams, Australia 498 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 4: as its own national team that is joining the event. 499 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 4: And then we're also going to do a Team World 500 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 4: as well, because we want those athletes in Team Worlds 501 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 4: to go back to their countries and again share the word, 502 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 4: share the message that it's serious. 503 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 3: It is happening. I think one of. 504 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 4: The issue that we had in the past was that 505 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 4: there was always this narrative of like, yes, a women's 506 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 4: World Championship will come along the way, yes in the 507 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 4: near future, Like no, now it's real. So we said 508 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 4: it was going to happen five years ago, and we're 509 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 4: sticking to our timeline. So we're going to continue the messaging. 510 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 4: We're going to continue to say this is year one, 511 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 4: We're going to have another one next year and another 512 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 4: one after that. 513 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 3: Our goal is still to go to the. 514 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 4: Twenty thirty Paralympic Winter Games. It is very ambitious. Some 515 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 4: might say aggressive, but I'll take it because between now 516 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 4: and the time we need to do the application for 517 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 4: twenty thirty, basically we need to have eight national teams. 518 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 4: Now we're at five, so we're still again. We went 519 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 4: from zero team to three teams in a year, and 520 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 4: then we went from three teams to five teams in 521 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 4: three years. It's not impossible that we get to eight teams. 522 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 4: But we need the countries to again answer the call 523 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 4: and show up. 524 00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned the rise and participation just from the 525 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: increased kind of awareness, dedication, repetition to the point where 526 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: female athlete representation in pair of hockey rows from point 527 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 1: seventy six percent to twenty one point seventy five percent 528 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: in just three years. So nearly twenty two percent of 529 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: pair of ice hockey players. 530 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 2: Are now women. 531 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: After for so long it felt like they didn't even 532 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: realize that there was an opportunity for them to play, 533 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: So already well on the way to creating more opportunity, 534 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: more programs, more countries that could be represented for this 535 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: particular championship, this first one, USA, Canada, Great Britain, Norway, 536 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: Australia and a Team World So tell me about the 537 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: Team World team. 538 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, so Team Worlds we have athletes from literally everywhere 539 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 4: around the world. So we have athletes from Finland, Sweden, Korea, Germany. 540 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 4: France is there as well. So they all train either 541 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 4: with men or they trend by themselves in their own country. 542 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 4: For xyzad reason, they don't have a national women's teams program. 543 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 4: Because of that, they are registering as individual athletes under 544 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 4: their their their country. Then we get them together literally, 545 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 4: we announced their roster officially last week. We introduced them 546 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 4: to their teammates, so they started their WhatsApp group. We 547 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 4: introduced them to their coaches. So we're getting coaches from 548 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 4: national program as well. So we're getting the coach from Germany, 549 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 4: We're getting the head coach from Slovakia, We're getting the 550 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 4: head coach from Czech Ya. They're all coming in and 551 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 4: then it's going to be their team for the week, 552 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 4: win or lose. They probably some translators, yes, yes, a 553 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 4: lot of Google Translate, a lot of phone, a lot of. 554 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: Hand signals or I don't know how they're going to 555 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 1: come up with the ways to communicate with each other 556 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 1: on the ice in such a short time, but what 557 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: an incredibly fun way to be connected to people from 558 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: all over the world. 559 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's that's what's amazing about this this event, 560 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,719 Speaker 4: or just the women's pathway in general, is just all 561 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 4: the connection that those athletes are making. And that's something 562 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 4: I always tell the Adam leads and the coaches and 563 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,959 Speaker 4: the managers. It's like, as much as we want, you know, 564 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 4: I expect everybody to want to win, it's like you're 565 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 4: not just winning a medal this year, like you are 566 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 4: playing to make sure that the dream continues, to make 567 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 4: sure that in ten fifteen years from now, women won't 568 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 4: even question whether or not they can't play right because 569 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 4: it will already be a consistent event, will already be 570 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 4: in the games probably right, So like we won't people 571 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 4: to understand how much it means for the sport but 572 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 4: also for the future generations. Everything that we're doing this 573 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 4: year is going to have an impact for the next 574 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 4: duration of the sport. 575 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: Well, we'll keep an eye on that and we'll be 576 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: watching for you and your team, which is you, to 577 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: see what's next out of the world Pair of Ice Hockey. 578 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time and congrats on 579 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: getting this tournament up and running and I hope it's 580 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: an absolute blast and a thrill for everyone that gets 581 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: to compete and changes the landscape as we approach the 582 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: upcoming Olympics and Paralympics and the ones in the future 583 00:28:59,240 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: that you hope to compet. 584 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 3: Great, Thank you so much. 585 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: Thanks again to Michelle for taking the time. We got 586 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: to take another break. When we come back, it's time 587 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: to hang another plaque in the Good Game Hall of Fame. 588 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 2: Welcome back Slices. 589 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: It's time to open the door, or better yet, smash 590 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: it down to welcome in the latest inductee into the 591 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: Good Game Hall of Fame. Ah Yes, the Good Game 592 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, where we celebrate women's sports lore, the 593 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: kind of legendary stories that we should all know by heart, 594 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: just like we know about Kurt Shillings, Bloody Sock and 595 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: the break lights outside Dodger Stadium, as fans who left 596 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: early heard the roar for Kirk Gibson's legendary World Series 597 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: walk off Homer. Honestly, we got some catching up to 598 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: do when it comes to women's sports stories. So grab 599 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: another plaque and find a good place on the wall, 600 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: because today we've got another inductee. 601 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 2: The last place. 602 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: Dallas Wings may be struggling, but Page is still finding 603 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: a way to fly, and during a game last week 604 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: against the Los Angeles Sparks, the twenty three year old 605 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: guard set the WNBA single game rookie scoring record, recording 606 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: forty four points in the wings eighty one to eighty loss. 607 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: Little context on Becker's big night. Her forty four points 608 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: accounted for fifty five percent of Dallas's total, the fifth 609 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: highest percentage in WNBA history and highest mark any player 610 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: has achieved since two thousand and four, and Becker's efficiency 611 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: was off the charts. She shot seventeen of twenty one, 612 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: becoming the first WNBA player to shoot at least eighty 613 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: percent from the field while scoring forty or more points. Now, 614 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: it's worth noting that back in the league's inaugural season 615 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety seven, then first year WNBA player Cynthia 616 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: Cooper also scored forty four points in a game. But 617 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: given the Cooper was thirty four years old at the 618 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: time and had previously played professionally overseas for more than 619 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: a decade, the true rookie record was previously held by 620 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: Candice Parker, who scored forty points in her rookie season 621 00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight. 622 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 2: Hat's off to Page. 623 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: It's hard to believe that just a few months ago 624 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: she was cutting down the nets with her Yukon Huskies, 625 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: and since she's probably lost more games than the rest 626 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: of her career combined, but we know that brighter days ahead. 627 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: And one fun footnote to this, sitting court side to 628 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: watch Page break this record was star of Criminal Mind 629 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: Schamar Moore, one of two people that Paige had said 630 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: would be her top choice to come see her play now. 631 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: Page said that because she's a huge Criminal minds fan. I, 632 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: on the other hand, worked at a restaurant in La 633 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: in my twenties, and when Shamar Moore walked in, I 634 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: literally dropped all of the silver where I was holding 635 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: because he is so frickin' hot. 636 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 2: I don't think that's why. 637 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: Page wanted him to be there, but we all have 638 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: her own reasons for getting excited about Shamar Moore sitting 639 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: court side. Anyway, Congrats to Paige and welcome to the 640 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: Good Game Hall of Fame. We love that you're listening slices, 641 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: but we want you to get in the game every 642 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: day too, So here's our good Game play of the day. 643 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: Follow along as the inaugural Women's Para Hockey World Champion 644 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: and Ships get underway. The tournament starts tomorrow in Slovakia 645 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: and continues through Sunday. 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In a session 656 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: a little over a week ago, Women's Super League side 657 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: CHELSEAFC got some recovery work in by hurting sheep at 658 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: a farm near the club's training ground in the Netherlands. 659 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: The team posted a video from that session and it 660 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: is pure gold. It's no wonder that attacking third calls 661 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: them side QUESTFC. So good we'll link to it in 662 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: our show notes. We're glad to see Chelsea's players back 663 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: in action, aren't you. The flock or squad kicks off 664 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: the Super League slate on September fifth against Manchester City 665 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: from Stamford Bridge, and it's an afternoon start for us 666 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: here in the States, so it won't even be past 667 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: your bedtime. Sorry, I sheepishly had to ram that one in. Okay, Okay, 668 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: that was bad. Oh my gosh, you've heard enough. Oh 669 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: my god, I'm wooly sorry. Now it's your turn, rate 670 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: and review. Thanks for listening. 671 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 2: See you tomorrow. Good game, Michelle, Good game. Slices of Wisconsin. 672 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: You a full thickness evulsion of a right adduct or 673 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: longest tendon. 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