WEBVTT - #426 Packers Unscripted: Final audition 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:21.240 M Hi, everybody, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:23.919 I am Mike Spofford, sitting next to the one and 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:26.960 only West Hodkowits were coming to you here from our 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:31.280 studios at lambeau Field and West. The preseason is almost over, 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:35.360 one game left to go. Next week it will be 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:38.960 the regular season. It will be more Packers Unscripted more often. 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:42.120 But before we get to that, we do have one 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:45.839 preseason game remaining against the Kansas City Chiefs Thursday night 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:48.839 at lambeau Field, after which the Packers will trim the 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:52.880 roster to fifty three players also build a ten player 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:56.800 practice squad over the weekend. As we head into this, 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:59.320 we know the starters are not going to play against 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:02.959 the Chiefs. The ask majority of your regulars are are 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:05.640 going to be on the sidelines. So who are some 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:08.600 of the guys to watch for to keep an eye 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:11.280 on here as the preseason wraps up? Well, it's really 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:13.640 interesting way because I know some people when you look 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:17.160 at the final preseason game, there's some trepidation. There's people 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:19.280 that get anxious. They just want to get to that opener. 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:22.560 I personally, and this is just maybe my own personality 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:25.240 coming out. But this is to me the most compelling 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:28.000 week of the entire season, probably other than if you 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:30.640 get to the playoffs or a week seventeen down the 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:33.520 line kind of matchup. And the reason is is because 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:37.160 you have ninety players on this roster right now, fifty 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:40.400 three will be on the roster going into Chicago, forty 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:42.840 six are gonna play. That's almost less than you know, 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:48.080 almost half. So the stakes are so high. And the 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:51.920 NFL there's no minor leagues that's an affiliate. You're either 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:54.400 in or you're out, or you're on a practice squad. 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:58.320 So seeing who steps up in these circumstances is always 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:01.640 the most compelling thing to me. Now beyond that, I 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:04.360 have to go back to the wide receivers, just because 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:07.680 it's been such a tight knit competition from beginning to end. 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:10.320 So I look at a guy like Darius Shephard trying 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:14.720 to make his final statement of this preseason. I look 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:16.920 at you know, if Alan Lazar doesn't play, that maybe 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:20.080 means more reps for Jamon Moore trying to still state 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:23.040 his case to be on this roster. If Jake Kumero play, 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:25.359 see if he can make a couple more catches here 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:27.480 and there, I think we're gonna see all three of 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:31.600 these quarterbacks, the backup quarterbacks Deshaun Kaiser, Tim Boyle, Manny Wilkins, 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:34.800 seeing which receiver that they can develop a poor with 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:38.399 and kind of get some momentum built that position. For me, Mike, 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.160 the receiver spot has been the one I followed this 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:43.520 entire camp, and I'm excited to see how it finishes 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:45.639 out on Thursday night. Yeah, and I think the one 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:47.280 that a lot of people are going to have their 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:50.000 eye on. You mentioned it at the backup quarterback spot, 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:54.799 Deshaun Kaiser, Tim Boyle, Manny Wilkins. Tim Boyle made as 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:57.680 strong a statement as he could in Winnipeg that he 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:00.240 should be the number two quarterback on this route Suster. 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:03.360 We don't know if the Packers are going to keep 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:05.600 two or if they're going to keep three. That's another 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:08.160 decision that will have to be made over the weekend. 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:13.000 Deshaun Kaiser brought up with reporters. He's perfectly aware of 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:16.160 the situation. He knows this is his first time of 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:18.959 his three years in the NFL that he's going into 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:21.239 the final preseason game and he doesn't actually have a 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:25.600 roster spot locked up. He has to convince the brass, 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:28.519 so to speak, that he should be on this fifty 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:31.600 three man roster. So it's a different circumstance, a different 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:35.440 situation for him as well. I'm not sure Matt Lafleur 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:38.160 did not reveal this week with reporters who's going to 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:40.280 start the game, whether it's going to be Boil, whether 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:43.080 it's going to be Kaiser. My guess is that it's 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:45.720 going to be Kaiser because Boyle got the start last week. 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:49.560 I think he probably goes back to Kaiser for this one. 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:53.640 But regardless if your Kaiser, you need to state your case. 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:56.280 If you're Boil, you need to follow up what you 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:59.160 did in Winnipeg and show that that one really, really 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:01.480 good quarter of a ball was not just some flash 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:03.600 in the pan. It's a great point. And the thing 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:05.960 that stands out to me most about this position in 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:09.320 particular is Brian Goodicin has talked a little bit about 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:11.760 it when he was addressing the media on Tuesday and 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:14.520 saying that you know, there's always times where you know 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:16.840 guys are gonna surprise you. Matt Lafleur touched on it too, 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:18.320 and you know a guy jumps off the page and 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:21.479 makes the roster. Quarterback to me is the position that 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:24.920 perfectly encapsulates that. In my time on the beat, I've 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:27.600 seen guys win their job. In that last preseason game, 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:30.640 Graham Harold did it. I think you look at Scott 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:33.520 Tolzien solidified himself and some of those matchups. Brett Hunley 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:35.919 did it a few times as well. And then you 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:38.280 also saw a guy like Vince Young who looked poised 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:40.719 to be that number two quarterback. Things kind of fell 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:43.160 apart in the preseason finale against Kansas City in two 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:46.520 thousand and thirteen and he was cut. So for Kaiser 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:49.280 and Boyle, Boyle said it perfectly, I mean, there can 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:51.080 be no let up. He doesn't care what his passer 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:53.680 rating is. He doesn't really care about what's going to 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.480 happen this weekend. He has one thing that he controls 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:58.440 and that's how he performs in this game on Thursday. 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.080 And for Kaiser, you were the huddle with him this week. 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:03.120 I mean he understands a sense of urgency that goes 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:05.240 along with us the media huddle, by the way, not 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:09.160 the huddle on the field. But he's a smart guy. 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:13.400 He knows what happened last week. He knows he needs 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:16.320 to be able to come out and and turn that 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:18.359 around and kind of rebuild some of that momentum and 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:20.480 show that he is the quarterback that the Packers traded 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.880 for last year and then lastly Manny Wilkins. I'm sure 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:25.799 it's kind of champing at the bit right now hoping 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:28.000 to get an opportunity as well. I mean, his his 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:31.279 chances have been kind of, you know limited here due 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:34.080 to the competition between Boyle and Kaiser. So yeah, I 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:35.520 think that all three of those guys are gonna have 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:37.919 a chance to ball out, and whoever comes out of 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:40.679 that most likely is going to be on this roster 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:42.600 in a couple of days. Yea, And those quarterbacks are 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:45.080 going to have a different voice in their helmet. Uh 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:47.640 as far as the play calling goes on Thursday night, 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:51.520 because Matt la Fleur told reporters he's stepping back from 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:54.280 the play calling for this final preseason game, which is 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:57.880 a common practice amongst head coaches who are play callers. 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:01.080 They like to in that final priest season game take 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:04.040 a little bit broader view, a different get a different 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:07.360 perspective during a game of their team. Matt Lafleur saying 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:09.839 he wants to see just how the whole operation is going, 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:14.520 how the communication is working between players, between coaches, from 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:17.760 players to coaches and all of that. So he's handing 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:20.839 off the play calling duties two quarterbacks coach Luke gets 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:24.920 for this game, and he specified he didn't choose offensive 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:28.080 coordinator Nathaniel Hackett simply because Hackett has called plays in 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:31.680 NFL games before. So this is an opportunity to for 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:34.159 Gets to spread his wings a little bit, get his 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:38.680 feet wet in um a new coaching duty, so they'll 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:42.120 be that dynamic as well. The quarterbacks position coach is 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:44.800 going to be the one calling the plays in the helmet, 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:47.839 but a lot of NFL coaches do this, and Matt 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:50.200 Lafleur even said two years ago when he was Sean 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:54.000 mcveigh's offensive coordinator with the Los Angeles Rams, what McVeigh 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:56.920 was the play caller that for two of the preseason games, 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:59.720 McVeigh handed off the play calling to him. So that's 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:03.880 how he got started with learning that whole aspect of things. 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:07.040 So a neat opportunity for Luke Getsy, but also uh 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:09.720 for Matt Lafleur as a first time a head coach 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:12.679 to step back a little bit and just see really 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:15.080 get a look at what he's built over the last 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:18.040 few months and where his team is before those roster 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:20.520 decisions are made. And that's important word you through in 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:23.080 their Mike team. This is the first time that Matt 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:26.560 Lafleur has been responsible for the entire operation offense, defense 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:28.800 and special teams. So one of the reasons I always 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:30.320 like this when Mike McCarthy would do it and he 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:32.640 would usually hand the reins of the offensive coordinator is 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:34.600 it not only allows him to look at the skill 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:37.080 position players and the offensive line, but it gives him 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:38.720 a chance to take a look at the defense. And 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:40.480 as much as you and I were just talking about 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:42.480 the position battles on the offensive side of the ball, 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:45.800 the stakes are even higher defensively, with you know, the 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:50.120 cornerback position, inside linebacker. There's so many different spots that 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.520 that guys want to prove themselves and Matt Lafleur wants 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.480 to get an eye on those guys as well. For 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:58.000 gets these perspective. This is incredibly valuable for him to 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:00.920 have this opportunity because he is a quarterback at heart, 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:03.320 and obviously he has the report that he does with 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:05.960 these guys in the quarterback room. But the fact that 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:07.400 now he's gonna be able to actually be in their 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:10.240 headset go through these plays that he's been installing with 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:12.560 him for the last couple of months. I think that's 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:14.280 going to be an interesting dynamic, and I'm sure the 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:16.160 quarterbacks are looking forward to being able to have that 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:18.080 sort of take on things as well. Yeah, well, a 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:20.400 couple other positions I want to talk about. You mentioned 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:25.360 one of them inside linebacker, because there's some uncertainty here 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:29.640 or in Burke's it sounds like his injury is not 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:33.000 necessarily long term. Yet there isn't a specific timetable on 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:36.320 exactly when he's going to be back from that chest injury. 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:39.000 We haven't really gotten any kind of definitive update on 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:42.720 Curtis Bolton and what's going on there so with his knee. 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.840 So you have Ty Summers the seventh round pick. You 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:48.959 have James Crawford the special teams as, you have Brady Sheldon. 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:52.120 It's a really interesting mix of guys and you don't 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:54.080 know who all is going to make this roster and 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:59.040 who isn't. Because out of this bunch, I thought Crawford 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:01.760 had the best bring through the o t a s 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:05.360 we We've seen Thy Summers come along and really show 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:08.560 up in the preseason games, but now Brady Sheldon in 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:11.320 this last preseason game also showed up and now he's 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:13.760 got something to build on here going into the fourth one. 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:18.280 So I'm not sure how this inside linebacker position is 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:22.240 necessarily going to shake out, and the injuries will factor 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:25.440 into it, but the Packers are going to be taken 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:27.520 a close look. I think at all three of these 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:30.480 guys in this final preseason game. They are And it's 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:33.439 not even really to me about even that second inside 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:36.120 linebacker spot right now, the guy that's in with Blake 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:39.160 Martinez and first and downs, first and second down situations, 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:41.960 to me, Mike, is the Packers trying to identify. Okay, 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:44.800 knock on wood. Blake Martinez plays every single snap you 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:46.920 want them to the season, But do you have somebody 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:49.080 on this roster that can handle that job, can handle 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:53.400 those responsibilities being the communicator in that inside linebacker room. 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:56.520 I think that's the task that Tye Summers, James Crawford, 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:58.400 and Brady Shelton have to step up to right now, 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:01.360 because without Martinez being in this game, they're probably all 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:03.319 going to get an opportunity here there to lead their 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:06.200 respective units. Who's going to step up to that challenge. 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.920 I really liked how to Tie Summers responded. Last week. 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.800 He had a rough outing against Baltimore. There were some 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:13.760 issues that he had late in the game against Houston, 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:16.160 but he chimont. He had ten tackles. Nobody else on 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:19.160 the defense had more than four, basically played the entire 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:21.760 game due to some of the situations they fell into. 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:25.480 Your heart hurts for Curtis Bolton. You hope he gets 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:27.800 another opportunity here to showcase what he's doing, because he 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:29.920 got off to a really good start. But the fact 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:31.440 of the matter is the Packers have a game to 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:33.560 play now and in a week and they need somebody 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:36.120 that's gonna be able to step into that role. Tie Summers, 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:39.080 Brandy Shelton, and James Crawford have to show in this 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:41.600 game that they can be accountable and do that and 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:44.760 not make the the Packers think about that waiver wire 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:47.240 this weekend. Yeah, and another spot, getting back to the 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.520 offensive side for a minute here before we move on 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:53.479 West at the running back position, Aaron Jones, Jamal Williams. 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:55.680 Both of those guys are going to go into the 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:59.720 regular season without having carried the ball in the preseason. Yeah, 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:03.679 Jones not playing. And I actually asked Matt Lafleur in 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:06.320 one of his press conferences this week about Jamal Williams, 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:08.480 because of all the time he had missed during camp, 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:11.280 is he going to, you know, get him into a 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:13.840 game here before the preseason's out and he's and he 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:16.000 said no, they don't really have any plans to play 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:20.720 Jamal Williams either. So how is how does this uh, 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:23.319 you know, settle itself with the third running back spot. 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:25.600 You've got Dexter Williams, the sixth round pick out of 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:29.280 Notre Dame. You've also got Trey Carson, who has carried 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:32.800 quite a bit of the load here in the preseason. 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:38.000 With Danny Vitally presumably on this roster, with the way 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:41.120 we've seen Matt Lafleur in this offense want to use 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:43.520 the fullback, and with what Vitality has done, even though 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:45.839 we missed some time in camp with an injury, with 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:48.280 what he's done on the practice field. If Danny Vitality 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:51.000 is on this team, and if you're keeping upwards of 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:54.319 potentially four tight ends, I'm not sure you can keep 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:59.200 more than three traditional running backs, which means between Dexter 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:02.280 Williams and Trey Carson, who are the guys really kind 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:04.080 of in the running for the number three spot, one 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:07.000 of them has to go. I agree because the Packers 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:08.400 that was one of the things last year is that 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:10.880 they were able to go a little deeper on tight end. 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:12.280 They were able to go a little bit more at 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:15.240 running back because they didn't have a fullback. I didn't 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:18.520 carry one through the final cuts, so vitally. The one 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:20.960 thing you really like about having vitality too is that 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:22.840 he can give you a guy that potentially could play 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:25.440 on third downs, could be accountable in pass protection, and 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:27.640 also really Flash is a pass catcher as long as 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:29.880 he's healthy. He's got that all around skill set. I 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:31.520 think he has a skill set that you really want 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:34.319 from the fullback position in two thousand nineteen. That being said, 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:36.560 I think last year in the past couple of seasons 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:38.600 have proven why you need a number three running back 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:41.960 as well. Aaron Jones and Jamal Williams their opportunities as 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:44.760 rookies came from being the guys that were sort of 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.360 working their way up the depth chart. So yeah, Dexter 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:49.800 Williams has flashed as a runner. I really think he's 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:53.000 very instinctive. I love what he does between the tackles, 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:55.240 but there's been some drops and there's been some past 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:58.720 protection issues. Trey Carson is sort of the antithesis of that. 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:01.280 I mean, he's been the guy that's and really strong 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:03.760 in terms of what he's done as a pass protector. 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:06.920 But the yardage in yards per carry aren't really um 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:08.960 you know, maybe what jump off the page to you. 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:10.920 So those two guys are and you know they're gonna 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:12.360 be running this thing right down to the wire. And 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:14.319 don't forget about Keith Ford too. This is a guy 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.960 who played in the NFL last season, and if he 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:18.839 has a couple of big carries in this game, that's 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:20.880 gonna make the Packers think about that as well. So 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:23.800 it is. It's gonna be a really interesting battle to 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:26.199 see all three of those guys and what they potentially 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:28.080 could do in this ball game. Yeah, all right, Well, 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:30.679 before we move on to what's going to be happening 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:34.400 this weekend at twelve sixty five here West Select Cousin 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:38.679 Subs locations are now offering delivery, whether you're ordering catering 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:41.319 or your favorite sub they're delivering right to you when 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:44.840 you order online at Cousin subs dot com. Cousin Subs, 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:49.040 we believe in better. Okay, So, the final preseason game 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:52.240 will end somewhere in the neighborhood of ten thirty PM 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:56.400 on Thursday. I'll try, I'll try to make sure that 0:13:56.480 --> 0:14:02.439 happens between then and three o'clock Central time on Saturday. 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:07.160 The Packers will have to trim their roster to fifty 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:11.120 three players. Now, this can happen a number of different ways. 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:14.559 And what I mean by that is there are guys 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:17.600 who are hurt who could go on injured reserve that 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:20.320 trims a roster spot. There will obviously be guys who 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:23.280 are released. There's always a chance you could see some 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:26.520 trades for a draft pick or something like that. All 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:28.880 those kinds of things could happen. But it all has 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:31.400 to happen by three o'clock on Saturday afternoon because the 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:33.720 Packers have to be at fifty three. And presumably you're 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:38.080 gonna see two players, Greg Roberts and Ibrahim Campbell go on, pup. Yes, 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:42.480 that's it's gonna be just a myriad of all these 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:44.680 different things happening that the Packers are gonna have to 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:47.400 start through. It was interesting though, because I went to 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:49.200 the locker room and I talked to a couple of 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:51.520 guys this week about what that experience has been like. 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:53.560 Robert Tony, and I thought was one of the guys 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:56.040 I really wanted to go to because his first two 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:59.440 seasons he got cut by the Detroit Lions and then 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:01.360 he ended up and the Packers roster and back to 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:03.160 back years. There are actually a very few of those 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:04.920 guys in the locker room if you really think about it. 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:07.040 Tremont Williams is one of them guys that have been 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:09.440 on both sides of that equation, and it's just so 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:11.480 one of the when I opened the show talking about 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:13.080 why this is such a compelling time of the year 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:15.720 for me, it's so interesting listen to what that day 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:19.040 is like for people, and in two thousand nineteen, everybody 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:21.320 wants to be on their phones, everybody wants to be connected. 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:25.240 Most of these guys are completely withdrawn. Tyler Lancaster spent 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:27.440 his morning the day he got cut last year in 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:30.120 the weight room at lambeau Field, eating breakfast, just around 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:32.160 the facilities, doing everything he could to keep his mind 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:34.400 off things until he ended up getting the bad news. 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:37.640 Robert Tanian and Jake Kumero. They went to a driving range, 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:40.160 they played video games and waited out the entire day 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:42.800 until both of them realized that they had made the team. 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:46.600 So it's just it's one of these things that you 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:48.520 put all your focus. Like I said with Tim Boyle, 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:50.920 everything is on this game on Thursday night, but as 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:53.640 soon as it ends, there's sort of this adrenaline dump 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:55.880 and now you're just kind of waiting to see exactly 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:58.120 what's going to happen. And to throw one more wrinkle 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:01.400 into that equation, Packers have a to prepare for on Thursday, 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:04.560 so it's gonna be cut your team, and then you 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:07.600 know you're running a hund twenty towards the Bears. Yeah, 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:10.440 with the shortened week, with the Packers opening the season 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:14.120 against the Bears in Chicago on next Thursday, everything gets 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:17.440 compressed and the other part that will be happening over 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:21.200 the weekend while the bulk of the team is going 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:25.160 to start its practice week on Sunday to prepare for 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:28.600 the trip to Chicago. You have I believe it's a 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:32.760 twenty hour waiver period from that three o'clock on Saturday 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:37.840 afternoon until eleven am Central Time on Sunday morning, that 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:40.640 all players who are not vested veterans who have been 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:43.480 released are on the waiver wire. Teams can make waiver 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:47.440 claims base and the claim order is essentially the same 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:50.240 as the draft order. So the Packers are twelve in 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:52.880 the waiver claim order, just as they had the number 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:56.160 twelve overall pick in the draft. And that's the other 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:58.920 thing that can factor in here, West is that guys 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:01.480 can make the team on Saturday, but then if the 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:06.080 Packers claim somebody and then they are awarded that claim, 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:08.200 that player has to go on the fifty three man 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:10.320 roster and then somebody else has to go. So a 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:13.040 player can make the team on Saturday and then find 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:15.600 out on Sunday that they aren't on the team. Then 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:20.600 what happens after that is after eleven am on Sunday, 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:23.840 then you can start signing guys to practice squad contracts, 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:26.719 and you could build up to a ten player practice squad. 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:30.439 Two of the veteran exemptions that are allowed on the 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:32.679 practice squad. So there there's gonna be a lot of 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:37.159 it's for is it okay? Because originally it was it 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:39.240 was two and now okay, so now they've increased it. 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:42.840 See I learned something. No, that's okay. But there will 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:46.360 be a lot of roster maschinations and everything going on 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:49.240 over the weekend at the same time that the team 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:51.280 is going to start preparing for this trip to Chicago. 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:53.119 It's going to be a total cluster. And the one 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:54.959 thing that's nice for the Packers is the Bears are 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:57.320 gonna be going through the exact same thing. It does 0:17:57.400 --> 0:17:59.359 make you wonder. For the most part, the Packers filled 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:01.919 their practice odd with guys that were with them in camp. 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:04.040 They'll bring in a few guys here and there. I 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:06.040 think this year, more than any other, it's probably gonna 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:07.840 be really important to be able to keep as many 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:10.359 in house guys as you can so they know the system, 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:12.320 so they can get right into practice on Sunday and 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:14.399 not let there be any kind of, you know, let down. 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:17.640 The other thing that's interesting too about this particular year. 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:20.040 You're absolutely right that is one of the most heartbreaking 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:22.360 things about the fifty three is the guys that lose 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:24.200 their jobs the next day. It happened to b. J. 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:26.439 Coleman in two thousand thirteen. He ends up being the 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:28.919 number two quarterback for a day, and then they went 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:31.040 and signed Seneca Wallace and then he was let go. 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:34.520 Miles White and two thousand and fifteen finally made the 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:37.399 initial roster on his third try, and then James Jones 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:39.760 comes in. The one thing that is nice though with 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:42.240 it isn't nice because I'm sure Brian Goodaquin would rather 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:45.000 just be able to designate players right now. But you know, 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:46.840 you're probably, you know, maybe going to carry through a 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:49.560 guy like Econimius st Brown through the final cuts and 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:51.280 then you can put them on I R. You can 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:53.840 designated a return. That's just an example. I'm not saying 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:56.440 that's what they're gonna do, depending on what the timeline 0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:58.920 is with Warren Burkes. So there is one thing that 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:01.000 if you do claim a player, that's another thing you 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:03.760 could potentially do is moving those guys to I R 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:06.520 and have him designated to return and having that flexibility, 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:09.199 right and as we know, it's it's the nature of 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:12.920 the Beast. But the way the injury situation and as 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:15.800 you say, the designated to return, the guys that aren't 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:18.400 necessarily out for the entire season but the Packers want 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:20.080