Speaker 1: Welcome back to Golden Hour, Susan. And guess who's with me?
Speaker 2: Jaffy. But here's what's special. Guess where we are? Yes,
Speaker 2: we're house phil She's in the next room recording. It's
Speaker 2: so weird. Usually I'm in Texas and she's in Philly.
Speaker 2: But this week we are both in Philadelphia. But today
Speaker 2: someone who isn't with us, who we wish were with
Speaker 2: us is I know.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine the three of us on the sofa
Speaker 3: right now?
Speaker 2: That would be It'd be crazy. Okay, our respect. You
Speaker 2: can hear her laugh. She is one of our most
Speaker 2: wonderful Bapsloor National alums and from my hometown Newton, Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: Juliana Pascaressa. Are you impressed, Juliana, I can say your
Speaker 2: last name.
Speaker 4: I'm super impressed.
Speaker 2: Outside I.
Speaker 1: Was exactly that I was just going to say, took
Speaker 1: the words out of my mouth. I'm impressed you said
Speaker 1: it perfectly. Okay, So before welcome Juliana. Before the reason
Speaker 1: I know your name, Juliana is we have to go
Speaker 1: over this. Your uncle Paul right is your uncle went
Speaker 1: to school Newton High School with my sister Debbie and
Speaker 1: all I grew up. I'm younger than my sister, Debbie
Speaker 1: was she passed away from But all I ever heard
Speaker 1: was Paul passed Rosa this and Paul passcrose to that.
Speaker 1: So next time you're talking to your uncle, I'd like
Speaker 1: to know my sister was a cheerleader at NUT and
Speaker 1: I I want to know what all the Paul this
Speaker 1: and Paul that was about. You see, if you can
Speaker 1: find out for me, please absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 4: I would say small world, but you know, my dad
Speaker 4: has eight siblings, so I feel like somebody, yeah, he's
Speaker 4: going to be So before.
Speaker 3: We start puising you to death, tell us how have
Speaker 3: you been? Where have you been?
Speaker 2: What have you been up to since all the things? Yeah?
Speaker 4: No, I mean I've it's been good. Life has been
Speaker 4: really great to me. A lot of newness, a lot
Speaker 4: of exciting stuff, some big changes, but I'm a New
Speaker 4: Yorker now. We go back to Boston a lot to
Speaker 4: visit my family. Mike knows, you know just how close
Speaker 4: and important my family is to me, So he's been
Speaker 4: awesome making the treks back a lot. We actually just
Speaker 4: got back to New York this morning.
Speaker 3: Can I interrupt? You said, Mike, Yeah you got back.
Speaker 2: Yes, but some of you were in two public relations
Speaker 2: of relationships since coming to a Bachelor World. We know
Speaker 2: how the first one ended, Yes, catch us up on
Speaker 2: the rest.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know, I mean I have to thank
Speaker 4: Bachelor Nation for this second on a little bit, because
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have met him if I wasn't in this
Speaker 4: kind of realm for a minute there. And I met
Speaker 4: Michael last summer at an event that I was invited
Speaker 4: to and he was actually he put on the whole
Speaker 4: event and we met and we stayed in touch, and
Speaker 4: you know, I was a little hesitant at first, just
Speaker 4: because of you know, everything I think I'd been through
Speaker 4: in the public you know world that I was kind
Speaker 4: of trying to figure out and navigate. And then you know,
Speaker 4: he he uh, he's stuck around. You know, he didn't
Speaker 4: let me go, which made me really happy, and you know,
Speaker 4: we've just been together ever since.
Speaker 2: Kind of It's Michael from New York. Michael's from New York.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why was he was he working the event or so?
Speaker 4: He's an executive producer, her director of experiential for you know,
Speaker 4: different brands, And so there was an event in the
Speaker 4: Hamptons that he, you know, put on start to finish
Speaker 4: and the management team that I was working with at
Speaker 4: the time had invited me to come stay in the
Speaker 4: house for the weekend, and so he was just there
Speaker 4: making sure everything was running smoothly, and that's where we met.
Speaker 2: I love it. Wow. So okay, so we'll we'll back
Speaker 2: up a little bit. But there's been So are you
Speaker 2: living now in New York and just going back and forth?
Speaker 4: Yes, so I moved full time to New York actually
Speaker 4: last month with him.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, come on, you got a spill.
Speaker 2: Hold on, Julie, I'm a hold up, your left hand
Speaker 2: is anything right?
Speaker 3: Are we married? Are we engaged?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 4: You know, I think that I'm like still learning to
Speaker 4: like what I'm comfortable sharing. But you know, there's a
Speaker 4: lot of really fun and exciting things coming up this
Speaker 4: year that I will, you know, keep everybody in the
Speaker 4: loop on.
Speaker 3: Okay, you look between the lines.
Speaker 2: You look so happy. That is for that is for sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Wow, I appreciate that too.
Speaker 4: I think you know, that's been something that my family
Speaker 4: and my friends have been saying to me a lot lately,
Speaker 4: just that I look so happy, and you know, I
Speaker 4: feel I feel so happy.
Speaker 2: So well, you did share. To be fair, We're not
Speaker 2: digging too deep, because you did share on a story
Speaker 2: that you were engagement ring shopping, which is why I
Speaker 2: thought maybe you'd like to hold up your left hand.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but I'm guessing. I'm guessing her hands are
Speaker 2: glued in her lap.
Speaker 3: Right now, leave her alone. The answer is mind your
Speaker 3: business for now.
Speaker 2: Just for now. Wow. Okay, So are.
Speaker 3: You working in New York?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so, I mean right now, I'm focused on me
Speaker 4: and my sister's clothing brand, Nice Girls Label.
Speaker 2: You know, I.
Speaker 4: Recently left my nine to five, so that's been kind
Speaker 4: of a big change for me too. But I feel,
Speaker 4: you know, really good about where things are going with that,
Speaker 4: and I'm still label. It's called Nice Girl's Label.
Speaker 3: Nice Girls Label. Let's get that out there.
Speaker 4: Yeah. My sister and I started it in honor of
Speaker 4: my grandmother. Her phrase was it's nice to be nice,
Speaker 4: and when she passed, we were like, how can we,
Speaker 4: you know, continue spreading that. And my sister and I
Speaker 4: like live and lounge wear, so we were like, let's
Speaker 4: do you know some basic crew necks and joggers. They're
Speaker 4: amazing quality, very comfortable and can you your yes, please
Speaker 4: send it. I'll send it to you.
Speaker 3: Guys, we got to drive this there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would love it. So are you online shop?
Speaker 4: Is it an online Yeah, it's it's Nice Girls label
Speaker 4: dot com. And yeah, we actually just did a new
Speaker 4: new launch a few days ago for the Saint Mary
Speaker 4: of Carmen's Italian Festa that happens down the lake in Newton.
Speaker 2: Down the lake, you got to explain to everybody what
Speaker 2: that means. Okay, well like Philly cheese, stay down, like,
Speaker 2: go ahead, what is it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's no Nantum Newton, And it is, you know,
Speaker 4: the Italian part of Newton. It's actually where I had
Speaker 4: my hometown. It's you know, where I spend a lot
Speaker 4: of my time. A lot of my favorite restaurants are there.
Speaker 4: My parcelon Love YOUU Tique is down there. It's just
Speaker 4: a it's an amazing community of people. It's in the
Speaker 4: festa is I want to say, it's like ninety ninety
Speaker 4: ninety two, ninety fifth Festa this year it's July fourteenth
Speaker 4: to the sixteenth, so wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Can I just tell you though, I was just at
Speaker 1: the Big Park there in Boston. We went to the
Speaker 1: Italian section for dinner. Yeah, I felt so at home.
Speaker 2: Were you in the North. I fell in love South End,
Speaker 2: North End? Where were you?
Speaker 3: North End?
Speaker 4: North End?
Speaker 2: I want to I want to see.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and next time you're there, if you haven't already,
Speaker 4: you have to go to Brico. It's our absolute favorite
Speaker 4: restaurant and their espresso martinis are top tier.
Speaker 1: Okay, because she's definitely Cathy has to come next time.
Speaker 1: My girlfriend said, didn't work out this time, but so.
Speaker 2: I was so Juliana. I The reason I wasn't in
Speaker 2: Boston with Susan and these other ladies, said, I know,
Speaker 2: is because I was in New Jersey judging the Miss
Speaker 2: New Jersey pageant for Miss America pageant, which happens in September,
Speaker 2: which was a lot of fun. But yeah, it was
Speaker 2: a plasma. I want to know though, just going back
Speaker 2: to your bachelor experience, because you're really good friends with
Speaker 2: Ali Joe, right, yeah, who else are you really good
Speaker 2: friends with? From your time?
Speaker 4: I talked to Ali Joe the most. You know, we
Speaker 4: kind of are on the same path with you know,
Speaker 4: our relationships moving in with each other. So it's really fun.
Speaker 4: And I was frequently going to Florida because I have
Speaker 4: some family down there and she's from you know, or
Speaker 4: she moved down to Fort Lauderdale, so we were always
Speaker 4: seeing each other. It was easy to hang out, but
Speaker 4: you know, mostly her. I mean, I stay in touch
Speaker 4: with a lot of the girls. I saw Alex at Coachella.
Speaker 4: I ran into Daisy and I'd say, you know, here
Speaker 4: and there. I talked to Parisa too, but Ali Joe
Speaker 4: is my number one girl that she's so sweet.
Speaker 3: Love her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So looking back, so looking back, just whatever you
Speaker 2: want to share.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you you are a beautiful, beautiful woman
Speaker 5: who clearly is on a very upwards running projectory trajectory,
Speaker 5: which would thrilled.
Speaker 2: But can you just kind of now that you're stepped
Speaker 2: away from it, your bats or experience, what would your
Speaker 2: overall comment be about it?
Speaker 4: You know, I think, truly, I feel like I did
Speaker 4: the best that I could. That the world is so
Speaker 4: new and it's so tough to naviate a really unique situation.
Speaker 4: I think I led with compassion to the best that
Speaker 4: I could, and I tried to give absolutely everybody grace,
Speaker 4: including myself. And I think challenging is the word. But
Speaker 4: I feel stronger, I feel more confident in myself, and
Speaker 4: you know, I'm thankful for the opportunity.
Speaker 1: And that experience helped that, am I right? I mean
Speaker 1: Kathy and I felt the same way coming off the show.
Speaker 3: It was like, wow, I'm good people, Yeah, yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm doing okay.
Speaker 1: Even if I didn't find love it or for your sake,
Speaker 1: it didn't work out, but what it told you about
Speaker 1: yourself and then to find the next person or the
Speaker 1: right person, you were ready, Like we have to be
Speaker 1: thankful for that Slory really.
Speaker 4: One percent, and you know, everything does happen for a reason, right,
Speaker 4: And I wouldn't be here today if I didn't have
Speaker 4: that experience. But I also think it kind of helped
Speaker 4: like on my pathway to even being able to consider
Speaker 4: and actually moving to New York because I'm so close
Speaker 4: and like so tied at the hip with my family,
Speaker 4: and I rely a lot and I always had on
Speaker 4: like their opinions, and like, you know, if there was
Speaker 4: a situation where I needed guidance, like you know, I
Speaker 4: leaned on them so much, and so in that like
Speaker 4: filming process, I had to truly rely on myself. And
Speaker 4: even afterwards, it's like they didn't know what I'd been through, right,
Speaker 4: And so I'm navigating emotions that they can't necessarily relate to. So, yeah,
Speaker 4: exactly to your point, I feel definitely confident in myself
Speaker 4: and I'm like, okay, I can do so.
Speaker 3: So you grew up right in front of.
Speaker 2: The right So Julieta, you would you say it doesn't
Speaker 2: seem like you're as much in the public eye now
Speaker 2: having been engaged to a lead. It sounds like you're
Speaker 2: more involved with your let your clothing line and your
Speaker 2: and Mike. How does it does it feel differently because
Speaker 2: your answer about your experience in Bachelor seems to be
Speaker 2: different than I mean, I was never a lad even
Speaker 2: you know it's not too late, but I've never been
Speaker 2: a lead. But I thinks and I've talked to a
Speaker 2: lot of leads and people who've been engaged, and they
Speaker 2: always seem to embrace it wholeheartedly and want to do
Speaker 2: the public deal, and you don't seem that way. Can
Speaker 2: you talk about that a little bit?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think going back to the way beginning,
Speaker 4: like my sister signed me up for it, it wasn't
Speaker 4: necessarily something that I was seeking out, and I didn't know,
Speaker 4: you know, you never know what can come from it, right,
Speaker 4: So I went in you know, I'm like, I'll say
Speaker 4: yes to kind of anything that resonates to me. But
Speaker 4: there's definitely a line that I draw between what I
Speaker 4: want in my future and what you know, I have
Speaker 4: to sacrifice to get there, and you know, some people
Speaker 4: do it all. I just think I've always been a
Speaker 4: bit more of a private person and I do really want,
Speaker 4: you know, marriage and a kids and a family, and
Speaker 4: I'm still navigating how much I'm comfortable sharing. And I
Speaker 4: found somebody that's not really in the public eye, so
Speaker 4: it's not like it's a usual regular part of our routine.
Speaker 4: But you know, he's he's a team player when I
Speaker 4: want to make a silly video and kind of like
Speaker 4: share behind the scenes of our life. But you know,
Speaker 4: I think right now it is I'm focused on my
Speaker 4: my real life, and I'm super supportive of anybody that
Speaker 4: chooses and can you know, do both. I find it
Speaker 4: super challenging.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but yeah.
Speaker 4: You know I do what resonates I think with me,
Speaker 4: and I always have. So I'm not just because I,
Speaker 4: you know, was sharing a part of my life and
Speaker 4: a lot of my life with millions of people that
Speaker 4: watched and supported it doesn't mean that I have to
Speaker 4: carry that responsibility on after the fact is kind of
Speaker 4: how I thought of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're being true to yourself. That's the most
Speaker 3: important thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kathy, it is, it is I I wanted. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it is a lesson that we all learned, some sooner
Speaker 2: than others. So I think you know Jihanna that I
Speaker 2: was on That's wor in Paradise last summer and Ali
Speaker 2: Joe left. I and I've talked a few times. I
Speaker 2: love her And for those of people who don't know,
Speaker 2: she and Sam missed each other by a day, and
Speaker 2: I know that she was very frustrated about what happened.
Speaker 2: Is she over that? Do you guys talk about that
Speaker 2: at all? What happened? Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we we've talked about it since the
Speaker 4: second she got her phone, you know, back in her hands.
Speaker 4: I think it was something that to her was so
Speaker 4: devastating and it was so sad as a friend to
Speaker 4: have her, you know, here, she put her life on hold.
Speaker 4: She was so excited, you know, it's another opportunity, and
Speaker 4: it felt you know, short lived for her and almost
Speaker 4: like you know, a false sense of hope with how
Speaker 4: kind of everything went down. So you know, it's a
Speaker 4: roller coaster of emotions, and everything happened so fast in
Speaker 4: this world behind the scenes, and decisions have to be made,
Speaker 4: so you know, it's hard to not take it personally.
Speaker 4: I'm sure from her shoes, but she's so happy now
Speaker 4: and her and Sam, you know, found.
Speaker 2: There, Susan. I just got to say, you and I
Speaker 2: so here we are a year later, Alice with Sam,
Speaker 2: This beautiful woman is Juliana's with Mighty. It's like I
Speaker 2: would put up with being tossed off a show. I'd
Speaker 2: be I'd be fine with being tossed off a boat.
Speaker 2: Pick whatever you want, and we can have if I
Speaker 2: had the right guy.
Speaker 3: Right, everything happens for a reason.
Speaker 1: For people come into your life for a reason, sometimes
Speaker 1: a season, but it's all about a learning experience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So what is the biggest lesson you learned?
Speaker 2: Two questions, Juliana, I want to know what, and again
Speaker 2: what of your comfortable sharing? What is the biggest lesson
Speaker 2: you learned in this whole bachelor experience? And then what
Speaker 2: is the biggest rumor that seems to perpetuate itself in
Speaker 2: this Bachelor nation land that is completely false?
Speaker 3: Like, just give us a little bit nip it in
Speaker 3: the butt.
Speaker 2: This is your chance to tell all you know.
Speaker 4: I think one of the biggest lessons that truly my
Speaker 4: dad has always shown me, but it was an opportunity
Speaker 4: for me is you know, grace and compassion and composure
Speaker 4: will take you farther than anything else in this world.
Speaker 4: There were times, especially towards the end of it airing,
Speaker 4: you know, towards the end getting closer to AFR, that
Speaker 4: I was so infuriated that I could have easily acted
Speaker 4: out of anger and tried to tear other people down
Speaker 4: based off of emotions. But you know, I can look
Speaker 4: back now and be happy that I didn't have to
Speaker 4: take anybody down because of you know, how I was feeling,
Speaker 4: and I had my helth. I held my head high
Speaker 4: the best that I could and just tried to really
Speaker 4: lead with love and make my family proud because that's
Speaker 4: how I was raised. And I think that I feel
Speaker 4: better about that. I think when you're mean to people,
Speaker 4: it might feel good in the moment, but afterward it
Speaker 4: doesn't sit well.
Speaker 2: Now, Okay, you don't have to answer this, but I'll
Speaker 2: be honest and I'm lost. Yeah, who are you going
Speaker 2: to tear up? And why? You know?
Speaker 3: I just we watched it, kath.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 4: I think truly it's you know it A lot of
Speaker 4: it came from my relationship with Grant, you know, the
Speaker 4: I don't want to say like lack of you know,
Speaker 4: honesty and authenticity, but I think that that's what I
Speaker 4: was feeling, and a lot of that. It did feel
Speaker 4: a lot of a like a one sided relationship, and
Speaker 4: that's such a tough thing to navigate, you know, alone.
Speaker 4: And and then I think, you know, some of it
Speaker 4: comes from some of the other girls and the things
Speaker 4: that they were saying or alluding to in podcasts and
Speaker 4: even at the the finale, you know, I mean, listen,
Speaker 4: I'm not in anybody else's shoes, and I do try
Speaker 4: to imagine what it's like to be in their shoes.
Speaker 4: But there are things that I just personally would have
Speaker 4: done differently because I know how it would have made
Speaker 4: me feel. And I don't think paring anybody down. I
Speaker 4: don't think it does anybody good.
Speaker 2: You're smart.
Speaker 3: What your father, if he's listening, you did a good job,
Speaker 3: really did. You're a lovely young woman, you really are,
Speaker 3: and you have a good hit on your shoulders. I
Speaker 3: like the way you think. For me, being kind is everything,
Speaker 3: even when it hurts totally, you're just be kind. You're
Speaker 3: the better person.
Speaker 2: Well, let me just say who's who? You know? We
Speaker 2: grow up in the same time, Juliana. But I come
Speaker 2: from the school of speak the truth and sometimes it
Speaker 2: does hurt. So I don't know, you know, can we
Speaker 2: find some middle ground here or am I just you know,
Speaker 2: like wrong, I don't know. Maybe wait, what do you mean?
Speaker 2: Say it?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 2: Say it how, Susan. I'm accused sometimes of Susan's and
Speaker 2: I get it. It's my delivery that. But sometimes I'll
Speaker 2: say what the truth is and Susan will say to me, well, yes, Kathy,
Speaker 2: it's true, but you don't need to say it, And I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, what just hurts somebody's feelings or something?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 2: But's true? You know?
Speaker 4: I will say one thing is I think that you know,
Speaker 4: my sister and I actually go back and forth on
Speaker 4: this a lot. Is because you know, we're the nice
Speaker 4: girl's label. That's what we're trying to promote. Kindness is key,
Speaker 4: you know, but there is. It doesn't mean that you
Speaker 4: can get pushed around. You know that you can be
Speaker 4: a strong person and say things how it is but
Speaker 4: sometimes it is in the delivery. But I think you're
Speaker 4: responsible for the intentions and the way that you say
Speaker 4: and act other people. You don't have, you know, control
Speaker 4: over how other people are going to perceive it or
Speaker 4: take it. I think a lot of it comes with
Speaker 4: the intention, and you know, you can be strong and
Speaker 4: you can say you're not gonna you know, You're not
Speaker 4: going to talk to me like that. I'm not going
Speaker 4: to take disrespect. But I'm also not gonna stoop low
Speaker 4: just to meet how you're making me feel.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't want to wait.
Speaker 2: How old are you, Juliana? Thirty? Great? I just got
Speaker 2: schooled by a thirty year old wonderful, Thanks Juliana.
Speaker 3: Because she wouldn't hear it from me. She heard it,
Speaker 3: but it means something.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, okay, so what's one of the biggest rumors?
Speaker 2: I just wanted the other part of that.
Speaker 3: What's one of the rumors?
Speaker 4: I don't really know. I mean, I'm not sure that
Speaker 4: there was there were there were rumors that I was
Speaker 4: like a mean girl, you know. I think that that
Speaker 4: is because feelings were hurt and they're things that I
Speaker 4: did say to your point, Kathy, like you know, I'm
Speaker 4: not going to just let somebody run their mouth over
Speaker 4: and over and over again.
Speaker 2: I will.
Speaker 4: I have a point where I'm just like listen, like
Speaker 4: let's just say it like it is, you know. And
Speaker 4: but I think, you know, that was really it. I
Speaker 4: think I got called maybe a mean girl. I think
Speaker 4: that there were rumors or things that people would say
Speaker 4: such as like, you know, I'm girlfriend material, I'm not
Speaker 4: wife material, or I'm infatuated and I'm kind of like,
Speaker 4: you know, trying to make you know, I would fall
Speaker 4: in love with anybody, and the reality is, you know,
Speaker 4: I outdate like anybody before for so long before.
Speaker 2: Going off in that way. I'm sorry somebody said you
Speaker 2: would run by me again, you would marry material.
Speaker 4: They were like saying that I was so you know,
Speaker 4: giggly and so happy and right off, like right from
Speaker 4: the beginning, like so you know, head over heels is
Speaker 4: what you know they were seeing on the screen that
Speaker 4: you know, I just wanted to win. You know, I
Speaker 4: would have done whatever it takes to like win, and
Speaker 4: I'm so easily. I'm somebody that easily follows in love.
Speaker 4: And you know, if you ask my friends and family,
Speaker 4: it's the complete opposite because I wouldn't give anybody the
Speaker 4: time of day, you know, for so many years before
Speaker 4: going on this show.
Speaker 3: It helped me.
Speaker 4: It helped open me back up to like the possibility
Speaker 4: of love. And it was so fun and everything was
Speaker 4: so you know, exciting and whatever, and I am a
Speaker 4: getting with you person.
Speaker 1: You feel a little chemistry, you're acting on it like
Speaker 1: that was a perfect moment to do with the hell
Speaker 1: with all those people?
Speaker 2: Also also Jilliana, I mean, come on, you all batsfor
Speaker 2: Nation ladies on the shows are You're all beautiful and
Speaker 2: talented and have gorgeous hair and you're what guy? Would
Speaker 2: you know? I'm be serious, like, you're all so beautiful,
Speaker 2: and I imagine with that comes a little bit why
Speaker 2: her not me? Totally? Totally?
Speaker 4: I'm sure you know, girls, I think just even now
Speaker 4: today with social media especially, everything is like a little
Speaker 4: bit of comparison, and you know, they see somebody living
Speaker 4: a life, why can't I live like that? Why don't
Speaker 4: I look like that? And you know it's tough as
Speaker 4: it is, but then you put you know, twenty beautiful
Speaker 4: girls up against each other in one room, It's like
Speaker 4: there's got to be some inner dialogue, like, oh, no,
Speaker 4: like she's got this and I don't, or she can
Speaker 4: talk do this and I can't. Like it's a tough environment.
Speaker 2: It is so Susan and I have done a couple
Speaker 2: of podcasts about dating app I have a question for
Speaker 2: you actually about dating n apps. Do you think that
Speaker 2: people your age obviously you're taken, but do you think
Speaker 2: it's easier or more difficult to find a really good
Speaker 2: relationship on a dating app?
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I mean, I don't know. I think
Speaker 4: it helps if, like because nowadays it's like where are
Speaker 4: people meeting when they're you know, trying to date.
Speaker 2: That I can tell you, Jilana. In my age, they're
Speaker 2: in it's called a rest home.
Speaker 4: But that's I think because chivalry is you know, it's
Speaker 4: like a man would like come up to you, or
Speaker 4: you could even go up to a guy and be like,
Speaker 4: you know, how's it going. You'd spark up a conversation.
Speaker 4: Now it's like if you're out at a bar, you
Speaker 4: know you're drinking with your friends. The you know, intention
Speaker 4: is unclear because a lot of people want different things
Speaker 4: right now. I had a conniption when I went back
Speaker 4: on the dating apps after Bachelor, for like a short
Speaker 4: stint because I hadn't really been on them ever before.
Speaker 4: And one of the options on I think it was
Speaker 4: Hinge was like, what are you looking for? And it
Speaker 4: was like the options were like long term, short term,
Speaker 4: and yeah, I was like what what? Why would you
Speaker 4: I was? I was like, what a short term even mean?
Speaker 3: You know, I mean decided yet it means Juliana.
Speaker 2: It means dinner, drinks, dinner, and flay sex. That's what
Speaker 2: short term.
Speaker 4: It's crazy though, like you know, it's just I mean,
Speaker 4: at least they're being straightforward, but why are you swiping
Speaker 4: on an app to get that? You know, at least
Speaker 4: put in the work and go out and you know,
Speaker 4: try and go up to a girl at a bar
Speaker 4: or something. You know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I want to know more about meeting Mikey. Can you
Speaker 1: tell me the dynamics so you at this place. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry to go backwards, but I'm so curious.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was the first ever, like I don't know
Speaker 4: if you want to call it, like an influencer weekend right,
Speaker 4: And I was with all these different people I'd never met.
Speaker 4: I remember begging the management team like please let me
Speaker 4: bring a friend, because like I don't know, like I'm
Speaker 4: going to be so awkward in this, you know, and
Speaker 4: everything was so new, and he and I I was
Speaker 4: like glued to his hip basically the whole weekend because.
Speaker 3: Well, you met him as soon as walking in it
Speaker 3: as I walked.
Speaker 4: In, Yeah, because I was one of the first.
Speaker 3: You're like, help me, I feel weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and he was you know.
Speaker 4: I mean I think there was the initial attraction for sure.
Speaker 4: He's very handsome, and he's also just very kind, and
Speaker 4: he was paying attention to me. You know, he was
Speaker 4: making sure I had everything I needed, making sure I
Speaker 4: was comfortable, and you know, just throughout the weekend, it
Speaker 4: was like, rather than kind of hanging out with all
Speaker 4: the other people that were there, which you know, they
Speaker 4: were all amazing, awesome people. I just think I was
Speaker 4: a little bit more like I like to be behind
Speaker 4: the scenes a bit. And you know, so they were
Speaker 4: all inside partying at one point and him and I
Speaker 4: were like out in the back deck kind of just
Speaker 4: like catching up getting or catching up I guess, getting
Speaker 4: to know each other.
Speaker 3: And did anybody notice did anybody say anything to you?
Speaker 2: Well, it's actually obvious. Yeah, like a few people did.
Speaker 4: And he actually told people that weekend. Some of the
Speaker 4: people that he had met before that were there. He
Speaker 4: was like, Oh, I'm I'm going to marry this girl.
Speaker 4: This girl is my wife.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. I said the same thing when I
Speaker 2: met my husband at a fraternity party, and I did so.
Speaker 2: Eighteen months later I was married. So this is a
Speaker 2: good sign. I'm liking this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, can I share something please?
Speaker 1: My medium Slight Psychic told me she keeps telling me,
Speaker 1: not once, not twice, a few times that I was
Speaker 1: gonna meet some kind of a producer that had a
Speaker 1: thing in his ear or something, not just a TV
Speaker 1: show where somewhere I'm at. It sounds like, sounds like
Speaker 1: she got my story.
Speaker 2: It's so awesome. Yeah, she didn't just get your story,
Speaker 2: she got the guy, Susan, That's.
Speaker 5: What I mean.
Speaker 2: Well worried about.
Speaker 4: He's thirty six, thirty six perfect.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And my mom has always, always, forever said to me,
Speaker 4: she's like, when you meet your person, it's all gonna
Speaker 4: just happen so fast, like I know it. You know,
Speaker 4: he's not from Boston. I don't even know if he's
Speaker 4: from Massachusetts. She's always that to me. So, like when I.
Speaker 2: Got the call, for the Bachelor.
Speaker 4: I was like, this is perfect. I was like, my
Speaker 4: mom was right, like, this is this is my person,
Speaker 4: you know?
Speaker 2: And I went and like all ready to go.
Speaker 4: And then I came back and I was like no,
Speaker 4: but didn't work. And she's like, don't give up, hope,
Speaker 4: because like my mom is so intuitive and she knows
Speaker 4: me of course, like the back of her hand. But
Speaker 4: she's like, no, no, no, that wasn't your person, Like
Speaker 4: you'll know when it's your person. And I did, you know.
Speaker 4: I think I just knew right away when I met mine.
Speaker 3: How long has it been?
Speaker 2: A year?
Speaker 4: Pretty almost a year?
Speaker 2: Two? Yeah? What is the best thing? What obviously then
Speaker 2: is I'm sure devastatingly good looks? What is what is
Speaker 2: you know when you meet someone like there's chemistry and
Speaker 2: that's usually becumets the're good looking. What is the personality
Speaker 2: trait that just so draws you to him? The character trait?
Speaker 4: I got to tell you it. I'll say one thing
Speaker 4: and then I got to say another thing. That's a
Speaker 4: little weird. But I think the first thing is he's
Speaker 4: very he's very caring, you know, he is he's aware,
Speaker 4: and he's always like got my back. But He's very
Speaker 4: just like intentional with what he does and always wants
Speaker 4: to make sure I feel like loved and looked after.
Speaker 4: And so I think that's like number one. You know,
Speaker 4: I noticed that right away. But the other thing I
Speaker 4: want to say that's like a little weird, is you know,
Speaker 4: he reminds me a.
Speaker 2: Lot of my dad, and that's weird.
Speaker 4: It's not okay, okay, but he's just like my dad
Speaker 4: has always made me feel like, oh my god, I
Speaker 4: am never going to front somebody that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't even know. He's just like
Speaker 4: anything good happened in my life, I'm calling my dad.
Speaker 4: Anything bad happened, I'm calling my dad. Like, you know,
Speaker 4: I moved out of my parents' house, but I was
Speaker 4: still going home every day at like six point thirty
Speaker 4: to walk my dog with my dad. Like I was, like,
Speaker 4: I he's my best friend and love. Yeah, and and
Speaker 4: Mike is just just like him. So my dad's still
Speaker 4: number one.
Speaker 2: But Mike is a parents met him. I'm assuming. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: they all get along.
Speaker 3: It's a year cat.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Is it Italian? Yes? He is?
Speaker 3: He is Michael.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry. I know Jewish people named Michael. I
Speaker 2: know do not own Michael place. That's it must be
Speaker 2: hard though in some ways to move to a new community.
Speaker 2: Susan and I've been talking about this, you know, do
Speaker 2: we when we were both fully retired? Like do I
Speaker 2: move to North Carolina? Do I move back to the
Speaker 2: East Coast? Like how do you feel about making your
Speaker 2: home in New York? And is it a permanent move
Speaker 2: to be in New York?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was something I never thought I would do.
Speaker 4: You know, I just I am just so close with
Speaker 4: my family. The thought of going away has never even
Speaker 4: rossed my mind. So you know, this is a permanent move.
Speaker 4: Mike does have a really beautiful four year old son,
Speaker 4: so so we're kind of tied down in New York.
Speaker 4: But like I said, we've been making so many trips
Speaker 4: back to Boston and it's.
Speaker 3: Close, you know.
Speaker 1: Okay, everyone, that's all for Part one with Juliana. Stay
Speaker 1: tuned for Part two coming out soon. Bye bye,