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Speaker 1: It is a Tuesday all star lineup. Nick Wright, Greg

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Speaker 1: Olsen stop by one hour from now. The Herd hierarchy.

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Speaker 1: It is Veterans Day. Thank you to the men and

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Speaker 1: women who so nobly serve our country.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Jmex. We have a show today.

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Speaker 1: There's some questions on what we all watched last night.

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Speaker 1: It was it was a rough way you did. I

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Speaker 1: made sure I got a nap. I wanted to stay

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Speaker 1: up late. Halfway through that game, I'm like, well, why

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Speaker 1: did I for this? It's unwatchable, but it does create

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Speaker 1: a lot of interesting scenarios that packers schedule pretty dicey

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Speaker 1: going forward. Now that's Chicago's legit, so let's start with

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Speaker 1: this is Green Bay's problem, A Jordan Love issue, a

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Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur issue, injuries to wide receivers and tight end issue.

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Speaker 1: Well whatever, They've regressed in almost every offensive category three

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Speaker 1: straight weeks. I don't feel like Matt Lafleur has a

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Speaker 1: ton of trust for Jordan Loves. I mean, how many

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Speaker 1: yards passing in the first half? Thirty nine six completions. Now,

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love has great traits six four, two, twenty, good

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Speaker 1: arm moves. He would be the number one pick if

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Speaker 1: he came out today. Big strong kid with a big

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Speaker 1: time arm. Runs well. But I've seen Ben Johnson and

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Speaker 1: Caleb grow in eight to nine weeks. We're six years

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Speaker 1: in the Lafleur and Jordan Love, and you get these

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Speaker 1: weird stretches where it feels like they're grinding gears.

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Speaker 3: We've got six.

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Speaker 1: Years of these two. Don't tell me it's defense. Philadelphia defense,

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Speaker 1: middle of the pack. Carolina held him to thirteen points

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Speaker 1: last week. Now, usually if it's you know, a quarterback issue,

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Speaker 1: even bad quarterbacks or limited quarterbacks are good on script

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Speaker 1: like JJ McCarthy. Not Green Bay. Their offense is broken.

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Speaker 1: They haven't scored an opening drive touchdown since Week four

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Speaker 1: against Dallas. They can't even get the scripted stuff right.

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Speaker 1: So this offense is broken. Nothing's working. But you know

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Speaker 1: what I felt last night watching this game. I felt

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Speaker 1: like I was watching two quarterbacks who are dealing with

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Speaker 1: the same thing. Is that the difference between Hurtz and

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love and the elite guys is noticeable when they

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Speaker 1: don't have a run game. Kate Justin Herbert is on

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Speaker 1: a three game winning streak with the worst O line

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Speaker 1: in football on a third string running back. Mahomes won

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl with an average run game and a

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Speaker 1: blow average receiving corps.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Lamar Jackson wins twelve games a year.

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Speaker 1: Is he ever had a number one receiver? Good tight ends?

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts and Jordan Love, They're not that. Both last

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Speaker 1: year had an exceptional run game. You know where the

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Speaker 1: Packers and the Eagles run games are ranked this year,

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Speaker 1: twentieth twenty. First, these guys need more. There's about five

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks on the planet. Herbert's one of them. Mahomes, Lamar, Josh.

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Speaker 1: They don't need a run game. I mean, Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: got to an AFC Championship with no run game years ago.

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow got to a Super Bowl with a battle line.

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Speaker 3: That's not what these guys are.

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Speaker 1: They are good quarterbacks and good guys and good leaders.

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Speaker 1: They're not top five guys in the league, and top

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Speaker 1: five guys don't need as much can get to super

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Speaker 1: Bowls with completely flaw teams. That Burrow team that got

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Speaker 3: Go look at the Chargers O line right now.

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Speaker 1: That Justin Herbert is getting hit fifteen times three game

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Speaker 1: winning street. So I think reality with Jordan Love and

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts is when you give them a dominant run game. Man,

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Speaker 1: They're tough, they're thrown on play action, they're using their legs.

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Speaker 1: They're good franchise quarterbacks. There's about five guys at any

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Speaker 1: one time in my life in the planet that can

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Speaker 3: Coach is good, not great, incredibly rare.

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Speaker 1: That's Burrow esque, that's Lamar right, here's Matt Lafleuur after.

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Speaker 4: I don't sense any quick in there. Obviously, it's a

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Speaker 4: good football team that we won against, and we just

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Speaker 4: I thought our defense played really well. I thought we

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Speaker 1: Listen, Matt Lafleur is a good coach, is he? Andy

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Speaker 1: Reid probably not, Bill Parcells, Jimmy Johnson probably not good coach.

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Speaker 1: Jordan loves good quarterback. He's not great, he's good. And

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Speaker 1: fumbel issues, they're gonna win their division. They're gonna host

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Speaker 1: a playoff game. The problem for Green Bay is, oh,

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Speaker 1: Detroit's got a better roster in Chicago's legitimate. Go look

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Speaker 1: They are lost right now. All right. So I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you noticed this last night with Micah Parsons,

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Speaker 1: he didn't have a sack. He didn't have a quarterback hit.

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Speaker 1: Let me check the stats. Oh, it's the second straight

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Speaker 1: game no sacks, no quarterback hits. Remember when the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: traded him, the reaction was completely over the top. You

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Speaker 1: were only allowed one opinion. This is a heist for

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Speaker 1: the backers. Oh, they stole him from Jerry and the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: But there was this one singular voice in the American

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Speaker 1: tiny humble man, me who said, I get it.

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 1: I've seen mikead Get engulfed by good left tackles. What

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Speaker 1: are his playoff numbers? There's a way to go at Micah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: remember that. I was the one guy that raised his

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Speaker 1: hand and said I got I got a couple first

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Speaker 3: And Kenny Clark all right.

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Speaker 1: Green Bay last season through nine games, six and three,

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Speaker 1: Dallas this year through nine, three, five and one.

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Speaker 3: This is not the NBA.

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Speaker 1: We're amazing dunk a windmill dunk can super sed production.

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Speaker 1: It will define you. Dunks will define you. This is

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Speaker 1: the NFL, and Micah's rep has always been. He is

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Speaker 1: a splash player, a remarkable athletic splash player. He's not

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Speaker 1: good against the run right now, ed rushers, He's twenty

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Speaker 1: eighth in the league against the run. Miles Garrett is

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Speaker 1: elite at both TJ. Watt good against the run and

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Speaker 1: the pass. He's more versatile. Max Crosby good against the run,

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Speaker 3: That's not Micah.

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Speaker 1: I mean. The truth is, I was talking this summer

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Speaker 1: on a park bench all by myself, just me and

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Speaker 3: What would you do with Micah?

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Speaker 1: And he's And this GM said, you know the funny

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Speaker 1: thing about Micah when he got to Dallas. You know

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Speaker 1: they tried to make him a linebacker and drop him

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Speaker 1: into coverage. That didn't last very long because he couldn't

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Speaker 1: do it. This GM said, he doesn't have great eyes.

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Speaker 1: He's more the heat seeking missile. See the quarterback, get him,

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Speaker 1: see the ball, get it.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with that.

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Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence of the Seahawks jokes around this weekend. He said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: our defense in Seattle, for me is sea ball, get ball.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of an old expression in the NFL. Micah

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Speaker 1: is great to have in green Bay when they lead

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Speaker 1: games of the fourth order, but when they don't and

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Speaker 1: the offense dries up, He's not very good against the run,

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Speaker 1: and so Philadelphia at the end of a game can

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Speaker 1: try to run the clock down and just run at Micah.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's not worth the first round pick.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he doesn't have value on the right team.

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Speaker 1: Bill Poonian told me this year's ago, when your offense

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Speaker 1: need a left tackle than an edge rusher because you're

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Speaker 1: going to be leading games with six minutes to go

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Speaker 1: and they have to pass. The other guys have to pass.

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Speaker 1: So I like the move for green Bay, but this

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Speaker 1: idea made no sense for Dallas. No, I get it

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Speaker 1: Kenny Clark and two first, I get Kenny Clark's good player.

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Speaker 3: So Jerry Jones, remember after.

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Speaker 1: The the Micah trade that was panned by everybody, Jerry

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Speaker 5: Micah is special and we all know he is and

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Speaker 5: he can be disruptive, but we have huge amounts of

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Speaker 5: experience with the anecdotes that we've used on us for

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Speaker 5: the last four years. While he does make great plays,

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Speaker 5: there is also a way to approach playing against Micah,

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Speaker 5: as we know because we didn't exactly win the Super

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they tried them a linebacker. No, he wasn't that versatile.

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Speaker 1: You can run at him. He's great when green Bay's

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Speaker 1: offense is humming, but the last two weeks, green Bay's

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Speaker 1: have to in obvious downs throw.

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Speaker 3: They don't have to.

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Speaker 1: They can run, they can throw, they can do play

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Speaker 3: And you can run at him. So I can think

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Speaker 1: Love Micah great fit for the Packers, but the reaction

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Speaker 1: was so overwrought that Dallas got nothing from it to

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Speaker 1: pretty good when Dallas drafts an edge rusher with their

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Speaker 1: Eagles went and got Jalen Phillips, because they got two

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Speaker 3: So just saying there was a there was a.

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Speaker 1: Small, timid man, a humble man in the forest of

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Speaker 1: yelling and screaming. J Mack, you remember that day when

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Speaker 1: we just said slow down to first, Kenny Clark.

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Speaker 3: It's a very.

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Speaker 1: Nice package you could because you don't need a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You could move down in the first and get more

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Speaker 1: So I think that Micah last night no sacks, no

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Speaker 1: quarterback hits second week in a row.

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Speaker 6: Well, I you're my dear friend. I like you a lot.

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Speaker 7: I'll just stand by aside and say I disagree with

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Speaker 7: this take badly.

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Speaker 6: I won't.

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Speaker 7: I won't tell you that Micah is still the defensive

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Speaker 7: player of the year favorite, that he's starred in the

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Speaker 7: league in pressures that the Packers are going to be

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Speaker 7: fined defensively. I got questions about Jordan Love, but I

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Speaker 7: still think Packers won won that deal handling.

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Speaker 1: Herd hierarchy one hour from now?

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Speaker 1: A lot of Bears fans these days, a lot of

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Speaker 6: All right, Colin, let's start with the NBA.

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Speaker 7: Huge breaking news just before the show came on. Nico Harrison,

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Speaker 7: the embattled GM of the Dallas Mavericks, has been fired. Yes,

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Speaker 7: the man who delivered Luca to the Lakers. Thank you,

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Speaker 7: Nico Harrison. He got his walking papers this morning. From

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Speaker 6: Dallas is off to a brutal start this season. I

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Speaker 1: If Kyrie Irving doesn't get hurt, they wouldn't be as

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Speaker 1: rudder list And it may feel different because he didn't

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Speaker 1: get fired after the trade, right, But then when you

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Speaker 1: watch them now, and it's not just that they're losing,

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Speaker 1: They don't have a leader on the floor, and you

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Speaker 1: can't ask Cooper Flags. He should be in high school,

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Speaker 1: We're losing close games late. It's not that it's like

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Speaker 3: And now Nico's going to take the fall.

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Speaker 7: As you see on the screen, it's all been a disaster. Now, Listen,

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Speaker 7: it was a horrible trade. But Kyrie Irving, I believe,

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Speaker 7: you said, he's eighteen years old. Dallas Mavericks fans were

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Speaker 7: chanting fire Nico basically all season at home. Clay Thompson's

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Speaker 7: been a disaster. Yeah, Listen, sometimes the best laid plans

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Speaker 6: Sideways and we'll never get to find out. Youbot this

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Speaker 6: Kye and Ad would work.

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Speaker 1: When he made the move immediately after the Mavericks fell apart, right,

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Speaker 1: Like four guys got hurt and this year Kyrie gets hurt.

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Speaker 1: If they had the average number of injuries an NBA

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Speaker 1: The press would have pulled back. But new owners in Dallas,

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Speaker 1: The environment in the home arena is bad. Reportedly, the

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Speaker 6: It's just a tough spot. Cooper Flagg did look great

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Speaker 6: last night, by the way, in the loss' best game

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Speaker 7: All right, let's move on to the LA Chargers, Colin

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Speaker 7: very nice win over Aaron Rodgers a company on Sunday

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Speaker 6: They're looking to keep pace in the AFC West.

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Speaker 7: Obviously, the Broncos battle the Chiefs, and you know the Chargers.

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Speaker 7: They're hanging tough there. Justin Herbert Man, I'm worried about him.

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Speaker 7: Colin sacked five times, was hit nine times against the Steelers.

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Speaker 7: Had his ankle rolled up on that, you know, an

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Speaker 7: Here's Jim Harbaugh on the ankle injury suffered by.

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Speaker 6: Herbert Any concerned there at all. It's usc saits.

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Speaker 3: I do have an update on his physical status. He's

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Speaker 7: Oh love that guy. Obviously, Chargers have the Jags uh

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Speaker 1: But Jacky, Yeah, that's okay. Every week I tell you

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Speaker 1: I'm staying away from a game. Okay, So I Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: Green Bay last night. I'm staying away from that thing.

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Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago it was Denver Houston a

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Speaker 1: The Chargers all line is I'm not sure there's been

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Speaker 1: Everybody everybody PFF has them like last at their position.

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Speaker 1: It's you can win some home games over teams like that.

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Speaker 7: So remember they went to Tennessee a few weeks ago

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Speaker 7: then they give up a punt return touchdown. Herbert has

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Speaker 7: a pick six they don't cover. They did get the win.

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Speaker 7: This could be a close game. We'll see if Jacksonville

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Speaker 6: But I don't know. Do you really think the Chargers

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Speaker 7: And I asked, because of the injuries. I don't know

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Speaker 3: This is the difference.

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Speaker 1: This is really the difference between a star quarterback and

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Speaker 7: So I'm looking at the schedule, Colin. This is not

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Speaker 7: not been amazing. They went scoreless for the first three

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Speaker 7: quarters against lowly Miami.

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Speaker 6: This is where it gets interesting.

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Speaker 7: Yesterday Brian Dable was fired by the Giants. We know

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Speaker 7: where Brian Dabole was previously in Buffalo. He's created, didn't

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Speaker 7: create Josh Allen, but he was with him as he

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Speaker 7: rose to become a superstar. So is there a world

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Speaker 7: where the Bills move off of Joe Brady there oc

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Speaker 7: and bring in Brian Dable. Well, of course Sean McDermot,

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Speaker 7: who was asked about it, here's what he had to say.

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Speaker 10: Joe's a good coach, he really is. We've got a

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Speaker 10: really good offensive staff.

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Speaker 3: You know, they've had.

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Speaker 10: Really good games. They're gonna you're gonna have some some

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Speaker 10: games you want back, some play calls you want back.

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Speaker 10: Those happen. So it's it's how you respond to him.

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Speaker 10: And I'm fully confident in our offensive staff.

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Speaker 9: Would there be any consideration reaching out to him to

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Speaker 9: see if he had any interest in joining the staff.

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Speaker 3: In any way?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, no, I understand why you're asking that. Brian's a

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Speaker 10: great coach unfortunate to see that happen to him at

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Speaker 10: this point. That's that's not under any type of consideration.

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Speaker 1: I'd hire Brian Dable. I'd say, here's a couple, HUNDI.

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Speaker 1: I want you to look at our offense and I

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Speaker 1: just just tell me what you see.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and an advisor role, right, well, bring him on?

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Speaker 7: Is an advisor?

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Speaker 5: I like that?

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Speaker 7: Well, if I'm the Buffalo Bills oce, you know, think

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Speaker 7: about this, Colin. Let's say I was struggling here in

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Speaker 7: my role and you said we're going to bring on.

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Speaker 6: Someone as an advisor, Jamie love that we help you out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we may have somebody like doing that right now,

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Speaker 1: who knows well.

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Speaker 7: I would instantly fire up the old resume and see

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Speaker 7: what else is out there, because I know once you

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Speaker 7: do that, I think it's going to bring in some

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Speaker 7: a little panic to Buffalo. The problem is Dable knows

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Speaker 7: Alan well, he knows the head coach well. So this

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Speaker 7: is this is a tough spot for Buffalo and Colin,

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Speaker 7: let's be real, they better go all in here. I

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Speaker 7: still think the Bills at their full strength are the

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Speaker 7: best team in the AFC. I know you disagree. That's fine,

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Speaker 7: but I don't think. I don't think you mess around here.

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Speaker 7: If they screw up and cannot deliver against Tampa, I

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Speaker 7: think Brian Dable will be in some kind of role

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Speaker 7: on the Bills in two weeks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Buffalo is what I've watched. I watched

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Speaker 1: them get housed. I watched them lose to Atlanta, and

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Speaker 1: you beat Kansas City, though pretty handily at home game

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Speaker 1: of the Year circle it barely. I mean, they had

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Speaker 1: the greatest effort of the year and then the next

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Speaker 1: week they were bad before it, they were bad after it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, I so.

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Speaker 6: Who's the best team in the AFC?

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Speaker 1: Kung right now, Kansas City.

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Speaker 3: Maybe Baltimore four and five.

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Speaker 6: Baltimore right now is the best team?

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Speaker 2: Heard.

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Speaker 1: Hierarchy isn't standings. That's the other network. I don't do standings.

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Speaker 1: I do who the best team is now today?

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Speaker 6: If you had the Ravens at number one in the AFC,

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Speaker 6: in the Herd hierarchy, I'm out. I'm out.

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Speaker 1: You do the final two hour solo, No.

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Speaker 6: Way, I'm not standing for that.

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Speaker 1: College Jay Max with the News, Well that's the news,

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Speaker 1: and thanks for stopping by.

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Speaker 2: The Herd Line News So.

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Speaker 1: If you had to say, who are the ten most

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Speaker 1: important people in the NFL, and I'm counting everybody, you know, Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: Andy Reider way up there. You know, Jim Harbaugh is

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Speaker 1: gonna get votes, Josh Allen's gonna get votes.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Miles Garrett all all thirty one.

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Speaker 1: Other teams would want him if he was on the market,

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Speaker 1: and honestly, if you could could get him, most teams

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Speaker 1: would do it. How about Howie Roseman GM of the

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Speaker 1: Eagles top ten? Anybody watched Jalen Phillips last night? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: unlike Micah fifty two snaps, seven pressure, six tackles, two

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Speaker 1: quarterback hits in a Fumbel recovery. Why are the Eagles

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Speaker 1: the team that always makes moves like this an elite.

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Speaker 3: Pass rusher for a third round pick.

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Speaker 1: And if he doesn't re sign with them because he's

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Speaker 1: a free agent, they get a third round pick back.

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Speaker 1: I mean the Dodgers defer payments to stack their roster.

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Speaker 1: Your billionaire that owns a baseball team can do the

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Speaker 1: same thing, right the Eagles that made not in the trades.

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Speaker 3: Since training camp.

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Speaker 1: The gap in this league between how the Bengals operate

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Speaker 1: and how the Eagles operate. Is the gap between the

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Speaker 1: Pirates and the Dodgers. I mean, you just you can

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Speaker 1: defer payments. The Dodgers are doing it. Anybody could do it.

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Speaker 1: So I look at Howie Roseman. I think he's one

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Speaker 1: of the ten most important people in the league. Jalen

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Speaker 1: Phillips was a five star recruit in high school. Dominant player,

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Speaker 1: goes to UCLA, great player, gets banged up. He goes

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Speaker 1: to the Dolphins. Eight and a half sacks his rookie year.

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Speaker 1: He was available Mia. We were talking about it for

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Speaker 1: three weeks. Miami's gonna make moves. Why is it always

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Speaker 1: Howie Roseman? I mean, I mean Philadelphia is the best

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Speaker 1: team arguably over the last five years in the NFC.

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Speaker 1: We don't love the quarterback, we don't love the coach.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's Howie Roseman.

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Speaker 1: So and we're all products of our environment. And I

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Speaker 1: think this is the psychology that Howie Roseman gets. We're

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Speaker 1: all a products of our environment. There are a lot

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Speaker 1: of people listening or watching the show right now. You

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Speaker 1: are excellent at what you do. Your boss stinks and

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Speaker 1: your company stinks. If I put you the same person

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Speaker 1: man or woman in a better company, with a better boss,

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Speaker 1: you'd flourish, right, Because you go to work with a

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Speaker 1: bad company, you go to work with a bad boss,

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Speaker 1: You're you're just tread and water, right, We're when none

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Speaker 1: of us are born in a test tube. Our environments matter,

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Speaker 1: the people around us. So you take a Jalen Phillips,

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Speaker 1: he's just, you know, again, great pass rusher. When Miami leads,

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Speaker 1: that would be great. But in the fourth quarter when

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Speaker 1: he was there, Miami trailed a lot. So teams are

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Speaker 1: running against Miami. Now you put him in Philadelphia. Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: leads in the second half, then they can pin the

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Speaker 1: Ears back and Jalen Phillips can go after you. And

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Speaker 1: you're watching that game last night, he jumps off the television.

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Speaker 1: He's been a tremendous, tremendous player. Now he's in a

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Speaker 1: more uplifting, joyful, optimistic, positive environ or mint. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: hard to figure out, you know it. I just I'm

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Speaker 1: watching him. I'm like, why is it always Howie? Here's

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Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips on his big game last night at LAMBA.

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Speaker 3: I just felt super grateful.

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Speaker 11: It was the first time in a while that I've

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Speaker 11: gotten a little emotional before a game, just you know,

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Speaker 11: obviously this this stage, and you know coming here is

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Speaker 11: my first time a Lambeau walking out through that tunnel.

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Speaker 11: I mean, it doesn't get better than that. So yeah,

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Speaker 11: I'm definitely grateful. Felt amazing energy from the guys. It

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Speaker 11: was just an air of confidence, and you know, everybody

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Speaker 11: played together. We had we had a great game, honestly,

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Speaker 11: super gritty. So yeah, I'm just grateful to be here.

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Speaker 3: For sure.

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Speaker 1: Everybody went crazy on the Micah deal. This was a heist,

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Speaker 1: a third round pick for a potential rental player, or

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Speaker 1: you could sign him. He's a tremendous player. It's funny

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Speaker 1: in college he had some injuries. Did he like retire

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Speaker 1: briefly from football in college at UCLA? But I can

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Speaker 1: remember watching his high school tay unbelievable five star recruit.

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Speaker 1: He's always been a great player. And it was just

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Speaker 1: when Seattle went out and got Rashid Sahi the receiver,

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Speaker 1: It's like that is gonna pay dividends. John Snyder, great, GM,

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Speaker 1: you watched that game last night. I mean it's when

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Speaker 1: you can, like Miles Garrett's like this, when you can

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Speaker 1: turn the TV on and you're a casual. Let's say

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Speaker 1: you're a casual fan. You don't know all the defensive players.

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Speaker 1: You watched that game last night. There was a play

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Speaker 1: where he literally grabbed the defensive end I think we

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Speaker 1: showed it on the tape, pushed him over and made

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Speaker 1: the tackle to the running back. That is elite. That

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Speaker 1: is really really.

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Speaker 3: Hard to do. Yeah, here it is right there. That

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Speaker 3: is an incredible play.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and noon Easter. Not a Empacific.

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Speaker 7: This is one hundred and thirtieth field Artillery Pergate currently deployed.

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Speaker 6: Can't bear up, John.

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Speaker 1: Kawait, Bears fans, Chiefs fans, Thanks to all who honorably

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Speaker 1: serve our country. So listen, I'm not trying to start

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Speaker 1: something that's not how I roll. I'm America's honesty broker,

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Speaker 1: and honestly did the Lakers need lebron back last night?

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Speaker 1: Ruey Austin Reeves Luca Austin Reeves. Through eight games, he's

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Speaker 1: averaging thirty eight game It's the best he's ever been.

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Speaker 1: Ruey through eleven games, the best he's ever been. Field

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Speaker 1: goal percentage, three point percentage, DeAndre eight and is playing

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Speaker 1: with joy and effort. This is the Lakers' best offense

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Speaker 1: since Lebron joined in twenty eighteen. It's never and some

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Speaker 1: of it's JJ Reddick. He is amazing at creating space

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Speaker 1: for his players. They're number one in points, field goal percentage,

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Speaker 1: offensive rating. Lebron and remember Rob Polenka, Austin Reeves is

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Speaker 1: his guy. So if they moved him, it would have

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Speaker 1: to be it would have to be the deal.

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Speaker 3: Of the century.

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Speaker 1: You know, there have been times they've appreciated Lebron, but

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Speaker 1: Austin Reeves and Luca those are Polenka's guys, right, he

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Speaker 1: made the deal with Luca, he found Austin Reeves. That's

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Speaker 1: where the loyalty is. And this is the interesting thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm pro Lebron, but Lebron has always needed the ball

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Speaker 1: to play his best. That was great at twenty eight

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Speaker 1: it's not great at forty one. Lebron's also amazing at

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Speaker 1: elevating b players. Lucas now better than Lebron and Austin Reeves,

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Speaker 1: many would argue is.

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Speaker 3: An a minus player.

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Speaker 1: So Lebron dominating the ball, he can take the oxygen

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Speaker 1: out of the offense.

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Speaker 3: He can a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Right, he needs the ball it was fine when he

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Speaker 1: was the best player.

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Speaker 3: He's not. Luca's a much better offense a player now.

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Speaker 1: So and you got remember the loyalty in this organization.

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Speaker 1: Rob Polinka runs the show. Okay, the new guys are

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Speaker 1: baseball people, right, Rob runs the show. Just got a

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Speaker 1: contract extension. Luca is his guy, steal of the century

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Speaker 1: right in the trade.

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Speaker 3: And then Austin Reeves is his guy.

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Speaker 1: So that's that. And JJ Reddick is so good. He's

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Speaker 1: already a specialist at creating space. Rui's never played this

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Speaker 1: good to eleven games. He's been a hot and cold player.

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Speaker 1: Austin Reeves has never been this good. So here is

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Speaker 1: Luca just it feels like a very joyful, freed up offense.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's got space, you know, nobody, Nobody is taking the

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Speaker 1: ball and becoming a ball stopper. Good movement, excellent space.

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Speaker 1: Here's Luca on having Austin Reeves back.

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Speaker 12: That's great, h I was pushing him to get back.

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Speaker 12: I'm meeting him back, so it's always great to have

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Speaker 12: him back. He's an amazing player. So I mean, you

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Speaker 12: decide today just often missing four games is not I

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Speaker 12: don't know how much it was it's not easy to

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Speaker 12: just come back and perform the way he performs. So

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Speaker 12: propaps to him and we're happy to have him back.

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Speaker 1: You know, it looks like a bunch of kids having

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Speaker 1: fun and dad's been gone for a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: When Dad comes back, everything gets a little tight. Everybody's

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Speaker 1: shoulders get a little tight.

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Speaker 3: Am I wrong on this?

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Speaker 1: Austin Reeves and Ruie have never been this good to

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Speaker 1: start a season now again, JJ Reddick gets some, get

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Speaker 1: some credit, but he's not Phil Jackson yet. It just

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Speaker 1: it seems fairly obvious that Lebron at forty one, the

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Speaker 1: idea that he's gonna play off ball a lot. Lebron's

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Speaker 1: not an elite shooter. Lebron needs the ball. I'm just saying,

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Speaker 1: I'm not starting anything. I'm just I'm just I'm just

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Speaker 1: addressing what appears to be fairly obvious. If you're a

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Speaker 1: Laker and you've watched the game, look at the movement

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Speaker 1: in spacing.

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Speaker 3: It's unbelievable how clean it is.

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Speaker 6: I just pulled the pin on the grenade and chucked it.

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Speaker 6: But I'm not starting anything.

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Speaker 7: I'm not starting there's nothing. Listen, Colin settled down, take

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Speaker 7: a deep breath. It's Lebron probably the smartest basketball player

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Speaker 7: we've seen in the history of the NBA.

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Speaker 6: I mean, is that a stretch.

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Speaker 7: He's an absolute big brain genius out there.

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Speaker 3: But he does now he does have a style. You

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Speaker 3: know what.

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Speaker 7: We got to adapt our styles, my style coming onto

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Speaker 7: this show. I had my own radio show for like

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Speaker 7: five years. I want to run the show. I now

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Speaker 7: I got to play off you. You're the man, this

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Speaker 7: is your show. I gotta adapt my style. We all

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Speaker 7: have to change.

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Speaker 1: I don't think forty one year old superstars change.

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Speaker 6: Old dogs can't teach him new trick.

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Speaker 3: No, I think that's always been the thing.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, you can just PLoP into any offense, catch

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Speaker 1: and shoot. That's not Lebron Lebron. There are certain guys

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Speaker 1: that you know what they bring Westbrook energy, not efficiency,

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Speaker 1: but energy. Durant catch and shoot light in a shot clock.

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Speaker 1: Lebron needs the ball. Lebron's really smart. Elevates B level

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Speaker 1: players and in his prime was the best player on

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Speaker 1: the floor. Usually by a stretch. He's not the best

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Speaker 1: player on the Lakers. He's not the best player on

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Speaker 1: the Lakers in an offensive league. Luca is a much cleaner,

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Speaker 1: purer shooter.

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Speaker 7: So I'm trying to think of an example of someone

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Speaker 7: who was ball dominant in the NBA and needed to

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Speaker 7: pivot as they got older. And You're right, a lot

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Speaker 7: of these guys like Allen Iverson could never adjust. Your

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Speaker 7: game is your game, Carmelo Anthony could never adjust. I

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Speaker 7: need the ball, I need you know, Like, I'm just

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Speaker 7: gonna put faith in Lebron again.

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Speaker 1: Smart player.

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Speaker 3: I'm not doubting that all.

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Speaker 7: NBA last year, Like, I think it's gonna be okay.

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Speaker 7: And remember him and Luca and Reiths. There're gonna be

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Speaker 7: some plunky moments. I think they've played something like twenty

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Speaker 7: one games together.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 6: There haven't been many. So they're going to iron things out.

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Speaker 3: The schedule.

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Speaker 7: By the way, OKC Lakers Tomorrow night in the OKC

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Speaker 7: should be a good one. We know Luca owns Okac historically,

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Speaker 7: dating back to his MAVs days.

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Speaker 6: Lebron will not be at that one. He'll be right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: NFL schedule, Week ten, Week eleven, let's look it up.

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Speaker 1: Let's dial up the NFL schedule. I think the lines

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Speaker 1: are First of all, there's some unbelievable games. Seahawks Rams

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Speaker 1: could be the game of the year in the NFL.

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Speaker 7: And you're wedded to Seattle on that one, huh.

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Speaker 1: I get points with Seattle. I don't think the home

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Speaker 1: field's a big edge. The Rams are more efficient than Seattle.

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Speaker 1: I think I think Seattle's got I mean, though, those

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Speaker 1: are two of the top four or five rosters in

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Speaker 1: the league or better. Detroit at Philadelphia is a really

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Speaker 1: interesting game. Kansas City at Denver late afternoon, that's a

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Speaker 1: pretty interesting game. Keep your eye on this one. Bears

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Speaker 1: at Vikings. How do you do with that one? Well,

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Speaker 1: Bears are the better team. I looked at the line

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Speaker 1: on this. It is if the the wise guys think

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Speaker 1: that Kevin o'connen JJ McCarthy. You can see from the lines,

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Speaker 1: people don't buy the Bears. The guys in the desert

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Speaker 1: don't buy the Bears. They still, you know, they're like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's Ben Johnson, it's not you know. Despite all the

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Speaker 1: glowing numbers, the lines vary to me a little wonky

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Speaker 1: on the Bears Vikings. Bears could win this game the

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Speaker 1: way they're playing now comfortably.

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Speaker 7: I mean, just remember the Bears had scored I believe

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Speaker 7: seven points in the New York Giants through three quarters.

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Speaker 7: The Giants defense, who hasn't stopped anybody in weeks, so

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Speaker 7: I don't know. I mean, I would probably lean JJ

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Speaker 7: McCarthy in company in that one, but that's the probably

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Speaker 7: stay away. I still think the best bets of the

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Speaker 7: Patriots Thursday.

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Speaker 6: Night and the Dolphins in Madrid against Washington.

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Speaker 1: So far, at least, I've never bet a game played

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Speaker 1: in Madrid. I'm gonna I'm gonna kick that going, all right.

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Speaker 1: Hour two heard Hierarchy who is now the best team

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Speaker 1: in the league. It's not Philadelphia, it's not Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: They may be close.

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Speaker 3: Plus Nick right,