WEBVTT - Talking Hometowns with Bryan & Garrett 0:00:02.080 --> 0:00:06.039 What's up, everybody, Batch, our nation, Batch, our happy, our listeners. 0:00:06.040 --> 0:00:09.440 Welcome back to another episode. We have a good one 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:14.440 for you because I know you saw tonight's episode and Becca, 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:18.279 I don't even know where to start. I mean, we 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:20.760 have never seen anything like ever. No, this is very 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:24.120 very new in Bachelor territory. I mean usually hometowns it's 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:27.400 kind of the safe week, it's it's easy, it's standard. 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:32.360 This week was crazy crazy. I mean, Garrett and I 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:34.239 were just gasping the entire time we're watching it. So 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:36.400 we have much to dive into. We have some very 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:38.960 special guests because we needed help with this crazy We 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:41.760 needed help and so we needed to bring in the 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:44.760 main men in our lives to give a male perspective 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:47.400 on everything that just went down. So we've got drum 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:54.520 rolled mister Garrett and Briant. Yeah, it's bay Day. It's 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:58.640 a double date, double date. We need some clarity, some 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:03.360 some understand ending. We need this male perspective, so let's 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:07.840 get into it. Becca is the collective sigh of the group. 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:12.120 We got to talk about Victoria f and her hometown 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:16.240 because we haven't seen anything like it before and for 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:21.400 the first time ever, Rebecca, I have no words. I am. 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:24.039 I am silent, and thank god we have the men 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:27.000 here who can just give us the mal opinion because 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:30.360 I am so interested in what they have to say. 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:32.160 I am too, I mean, I will I will say 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:34.920 I have a few choice words for everything that we saw. 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:37.640 But I definitely want to get into Garrett and Brian's 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:41.080 opinion because men, I think, tend to look at things 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:44.520 in a different light, a different perspective. But we saw 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:47.680 a lot go down, like and don't just talk about Victoria. 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:50.480 I need to understand Peter from the male perspective because 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:53.680 I'm not getting it same. So who whoever wants to 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:58.720 dive in, by all means, good luck? Where to start? 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:06.040 This is a tough one. I just feel like she 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:10.840 just doesn't know how to express her exact feelings. I 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:15.280 feel like if she would have just told him, hey, listen, 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:17.560 you know what, people are going to talk shit. It 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:19.840 is what it is, like, I can't do anything about it. 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:23.200 I'm in love with you. Everybody has a past, like, 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:25.239 let's just move forward. And at the same time, I 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:27.839 don't know, I know you don't agree with me, but 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:31.400 what if they would have gone in? Peter assesses the situation, 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:33.040 goes in with the family. Yeah, I know it's a 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:35.160 big deal. Well, like gets a feel for how she 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:37.160 is with her family, all the love that comes from that, 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:40.480 and then maybe talk about it afterwards. But I feel 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:43.960 like that just ruined the night he left. I get it, 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:46.600 you know, you don't want to meet the family and 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:51.600 you know, have this looming over his head. But I 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:53.600 just think she just doesn't communicate well. I think if 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:56.040 she would have just been upfront and honest and maybe 0:02:56.600 --> 0:03:01.600 divulge exactly what happened, you know, whatever Marissa was set 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:04.080 talking about, you know, maybe given her side of the story, 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:07.120 I think she would have been in a better spot. 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:12.519 Like put yourself in this situation, Garrett. You've just been 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:19.680 dancing on stage offbeat because that's Peter. But Peter owns it. 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:22.560 You've been dancing on stage, singing the song. You're having 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:24.360 the time of your life. In the words of Peter, 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:29.000 this is unreal. Peter's having like he's on cloud nine. 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:32.840 The producers are like, hold on two seconds, like we 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:35.680 want we got something else for you. So your ex 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:38.760 comes up, approaches you and tells you something about this 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:41.839 girl that you've just had the time of your life 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:45.120 with you? Would you how do you handle that? Um? 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:48.400 I think depending on how my relationship was with my 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:51.600 ex and how truthful of a person she was, I 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:53.960 would take that into consideration and be like, what she's 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:56.000 telling me, you know it is coming from a good 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:58.360 place in her heart. So I'm gonna have to approach 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:02.000 that and ask Victoria f right questions and then approach 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:04.200 her and ask her, you know, like, what is this 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:06.680 I've heard about? You kind of explain yourself and then 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:09.680 you know, asked the right questions. And I don't know 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:12.840 if he asked the Peter didn't. Peter didn't ask the 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:16.400 right questions. He took what Mersas said to hard and 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:18.920 of course addressed with Victoria. But he doesn't sit down 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:20.840 and say like, hey, like what is she talking about it? 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:23.359 I don't even juicy details, even though eyes of you 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:26.560 or want the juicy details. But as Brian was saying, like, 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:29.040 he didn't ask it and she didn't even bring it up. 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:30.960 She just said I'm done and she just shuts down, 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:35.600 and I don't even know, if you want my real opinion, Yeah, 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:40.960 I wouldn't even have had her make it to the hometown. Yeah, 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:44.520 she walked away. If she walked away. I know that 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:47.640 I have, you know, two to three other great relationships 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:51.040 going on, and if somebody's acting this way, it's huge 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:53.559 red flags to me, it's totally off. I agree with Brian. 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:55.640 I think she should have or he should have gone 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:57.680 in there, met the family and gotten a field for 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:00.000 that and maybe like dove in more with some questions 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.520 and see how they react, see what they say about 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.760 her and her past relationships. But I agree with you. 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:08.919 I mean, obviously you know your ex. You know, maybe 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:10.520 she does have a good heart, maybe she is coming 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:11.880 from a good place, but at the same time she 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.200 has your ex. Could there be some type of jealousy 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:17.200 on her part where she's just stirring the pot and 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:20.279 now that has him all confused. I don't know. I 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:23.000 just think he I think he's done that a couple 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:26.160 of times this season, where he just takes somebody's word 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:29.320 for it, throws him all off, and then that, you know, 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:31.360 messes up relationship with other women. I think he should 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:34.760 just you know, take it at face value, you know, 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:36.839 interact with these women, and then you know, let it, 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:39.720 you know, leave all at hearsay to the side. I 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.040 don't know. I mean That's how I guess I would 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:43.839 handle it. I don't think I would have been able 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:45.760 to go and meet the family if I was Peter, 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:48.159 I would not have wanted because family is such a 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:52.520 big thing that if he was questioning where he's at 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:56.440 in that relationship, family adds this whole new layer, yeah, 0:05:56.480 --> 0:06:01.000 and just seriousness to the relationship that if he's already 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:03.960 on the fence like that, don't don't get that muddled. 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.760 I think that would be too hard, especially when you 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:08.720 have to go to the family now and put on 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:13.400 a face and get all excited and talk about like 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:15.720 you're dating history on the show and relive all these 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:17.440 special moments. But in the back of your mind you 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:19.800 have this like nagging why do you have to put 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:21.560 a face on? Why don't you just walk in there 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:23.680 and tell him exactly what is he going to go 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:25.680 meet mister Fuller and be like, hey, I just heard 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:28.680 that your daughter breaks relationships, But like, let's talk about 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:30.679 how great she is right now? Will you talk about 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:32.840 this season and how good it's been, but there's been 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:35.120 some issues addressed or whatever, and be like, you know 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.640 what her past relationships, like, what is she like as 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:39.640 a person? I think he should have the ability, like 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:42.800 the strength to compartmentalize and just be like, Okay, I'm 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:45.279 gonna walk in there. Our relationship has been good, like 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:46.719 you said at the end there, he's like I have 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:49.120 I'm very passionate about her. You know, I want to 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:51.640 keep her around, you know, you know, with Kelsey as 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:55.080 the other option. But but their relationship hasn't been good. 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:58.120 I think that's the thing. This is like a situation 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:00.840 where it's like, fool me once, shame on you, fool 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:03.279 me twice, shame on me. Peter has been fooled multiple 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:05.760 too many times to count when it comes to her. Yeah, 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:09.400 And every time you see them interact together, every dinner 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:12.920 that they have together, every moment, she always gets up 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:14.880 and walks away and cries and just leaves him and 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:17.120 can't talk things through, like and so it hasn't been 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:20.400 a great relationship. But he's attracted to her. He's like 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:22.480 he feels that chemistry and that passion, and I think 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:25.560 that's the only thing pulling him back, because that's something 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:29.960 you think maybe he's that's what attracts and to her 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:34.240 as far as crazy, maybe a little drama. Maybe she 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:36.680 wants Oh I want I want to change her. She's mysterious. 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:38.480 You know, I can't figure her out, like I want 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:40.559 to see what's going Are you looking for a wife 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:42.160 or a good time? I mean, do you really need 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:44.520 the Bachelor to find a crazy chick? I mean you 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:46.520 can do You can do that any day of the week. 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:49.760 I think it's so frustrating because you're watching this interaction, 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:51.720 Like I just want to say, I'm over it. That's 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:55.440 the title of this podcast. I'm fucking over it and 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:57.760 the words of a good friend. Can we just send 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:00.680 them all home and ship them to paradise? Like I am. 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:05.320 I am so over this. The interactions and the way 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:09.000 we're handling conflict and the way that Peter is navigating 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:12.600 these relationships. It is so frustrating because, especially in this episode, 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:17.120 you're sitting here and you're watching Peter literally answer his 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:19.960 own questions. He is saying, you're bad at communication, you 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:22.800 get up and run away. These problems continue to happen. 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:25.520 The writing is on the wall. If you won't read it, 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:29.000 it's like I don't. That's why I'm like searching for 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:33.360 the men, like what is it? Why can't Peter like 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:35.439 have an opinion and stick to it? Why is he 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:39.520 so easily swayed and manipulated by these women. To your point, 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:42.320 I think he answers his own questions because he breaks 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:45.040 the silence. So when he asked the question, she'll sit 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:46.840 there and kind of look at him saying I don't know, 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:49.280 and then it's silent, and then he answers it, and 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:51.720 so you get up, you walk away, and he starts 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:53.800 answering the question he just asked her, and I'm like, 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.920 just for her to answer and make her use her 0:08:56.920 --> 0:08:59.080 words rather than be like, I don't know. And then 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:01.480 he's like, Okay, well let me tell you, Yeah, I 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:04.400 have a question. So not even this week, but it 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.199 becomes much more apparent, I think. But even in their 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:10.440 interactions in the past. Last week, I kept saying, like, 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:12.760 she's not that into him. If you watch, like she's 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:14.920 always kind of trying to give him this out and 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:17.560 some sort of like yeah, I like you, but I 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.040 just don't know and I don't know what I want, 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:23.360 and she uses all these excuses. I truly, truly think 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:26.520 at the root of it is that she's really not 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:29.280 that into him, and she wants to be. She wants 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:32.600 to put on this facade for the show, because let's 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:34.240 be honest, if she was like, yeah, no I don't 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:36.520 like him, like, she'd get much more backlash, I think. 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:39.800 I mean she's already going to but for like, as 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:43.480 a man watching this, can you guys sense that? Yeah? Yeah? 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:44.960 And then I think she put it on him, like 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:48.240 she feels that she's trying harder than him, right, I mean, 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:51.319 I don't know what what what relationship she's living in, 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:53.920 but I mean obviously Peter was shocked when she said that. 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:55.960 She's like, what are you talking about? Like, have you 0:09:56.040 --> 0:10:00.040 not seen me trying? No, No, let's just call a 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:02.320 spade of spade. She's made it to the top four. 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:05.840 She's in running for the Bachelorette. I think that that's 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:08.520 where she's like, peace out, Like, I'm good. I've made 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:10.319 it as far as I need to come to be 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:13.720 the Bachelorette. Well, let me tell you something, Victoria f one. 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:17.559 To be the Bachelorette, you have to be able to 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:20.240 like have an opinion, to form a sentence, to be 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:23.720 able to make a declarative statement, to have a conversation, 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:27.160 to answer questions, to pull things out of people, and 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:29.800 to be able to communicate. None of these things I've 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:31.720 been able to sing see her do the only time 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:33.520 I've seen her form of sentences when she's singing the 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:40.719 lyrics to a country singer song. Can we can we 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:45.800 just realize how good the song was that Hunter Hayes 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:50.120 was singing. And it was very tellative of was that 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:54.040 the right word? Tellative? Very tent. I am like these 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:57.280 girls making it my own word place, very telling of 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:59.160 what I was going to go down. The best part, though, 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:01.640 I will say, is Peter and Victoria like behind the 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:04.040 stage dancing and he's singing the lyrics and he goes out, 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:06.400 I don't want crazy, and she's like, are you sure? 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:11.079 She like flips her head. I'm like, oh god, yeah, 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:14.240 like I've guess. I'm shocked that she's twenty six. I 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:16.080 really thought that she was younger, just the way that 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:20.600 she handles this relationship. But I just I just don't 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:23.080 get the red flags. All these red flags are waving 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:25.640 in front of you. I don't understand what you're trying 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:28.400 to hold on to this relationship with Victoria when you 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.080 have three other women, as you pointed out, Garrett, that 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.839 are into you that you don't have to struggle with, 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:35.920 You don't have to play hard to get that with 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:37.800 any like a lot of times I have as women 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:39.800 and men, you know you want something that you can't 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:41.839 have or you can't figure out yet it happened. I 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:44.280 think that's it. I literally think that's what it boils 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:46.800 down to, is him like trying to search down and 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:49.360 dig deep into like how he can get her to 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:51.960 almost like come out of her show, because I mean, 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:54.720 like the way we were still watching it, we felt 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:56.680 like she was a runner, right, Yeah, like she was 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:58.880 just running. She wasn't answering questions. And I think he's 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:01.520 just trying to please throw me a bone here, like 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:05.920 give me something, and I will say, and this is 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:09.920 a prop to Peter, just because this is a very 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:12.880 difficult situation. I when I was about to routte, at 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:15.360 least from my experience, I never wanted to say goodbye 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:17.680 to somebody that I still had questions about, because you 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:20.840 say goodbye and you always have that like nagging wonder 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:22.440 like what if in the back of your head. And 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:27.280 I think he's truly giving her all of these opportunities 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:30.480 to like still keep her around, to show him that 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:32.960 like she really likes him, She is going to open up, 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:36.360 She's gonna change whatever it might be, and I just 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:38.120 think he knows, like, Okay, if I were to send 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:40.600 her home at prior to any of this, he would 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:42.600 have still had those what ifs. He would have still wondered. 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:44.760 But like at the end of the day too, you 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:48.920 can only allow someone to do what they're doing and 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:52.280 treat you a certain way. So many times, if tears 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:56.719 were words, Victoria f would win a Pulitzer Prize. Now, 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.280 like that's the only way that she knows how to communicate. 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:02.400 I Oh, let me ask the men this in the room. 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:07.840 Were you shocked that Peter decided to let her come 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:10.439 back into this hotel room? And can we all just 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:14.199 pause and comment on the hotel room? It was I 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:16.320 don't know, I don't know what's happened with the budget 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:21.319 this year, but that was not it is I'm a 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:25.559 I'm a hotel snob. That was not okay. But were 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:28.200 you shocked one that he continued to have the conversation. 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:29.800 Maybe this goes to what you're saying back and you 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:32.679 needed those to answer those questions, So maybe that's why 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:34.560 he led her into the room. I would have looked 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:38.080 through the people and been like, not today, not today. 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:42.360 But were you shocked that he said he hasn't made 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:44.760 up his mind yet and is going going to let 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:49.079 her continue on the journey. I wasn't shocked. I think 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:52.000 it's because of not to be a dead horse. But 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:54.800 I think it's just the same thing, like he really 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:56.559 wants her to come out of the shell, and like 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.120 I think he's just chasing it. And he really didn't 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:01.599 get an answer in that exactly. But what would you 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:04.679 guys have done? Yeah, what would she wouldn't have made 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:06.760 it this far? No, No, I know, I'm just saying 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:08.920 like even if she did and that was the case 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.199 or whatever, like Rachel said, I would have look through 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:12.959 the people whom in like hell now. Yeah, but in 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:14.960 that moment when Peter is sitting and I still would 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:16.880 open the door and then told her we still have 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:20.800 yet to address why this issue even came about the 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:24.080 things that Marissa had said, Like in that entire conversation 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.600 when they're sitting there together, none of that was still 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:28.760 brought up, which is the real reason they got into 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:31.560 this in the first place. And so of course he's 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:33.640 still I'm sure if he's going to keep around, he's 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:36.160 going to still wonder about that. Yeah, I would have 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:41.240 demrioed her get the fuck out, like, yeah, be a 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:45.440 little bit more direct. It's so disrespectful to Peter and 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:47.400 even to the other women who are left. And I'm 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:49.840 not even a fan of that, you know, the ladies 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:52.160 this season, but it is it's just so disrespectful to 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:55.440 the process. And I get so because I'm looking around 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:57.880 this room and it worked for us, and so I 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:00.880 get very protective of how people navig gate this because 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:04.520 it was so real to us. And I guess I'm 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:07.360 frustrated on Peter's part because if you're saying that you 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:10.080 want a wife, and you say that you want these qualities, 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:11.600 and you look at your parents who have set this 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:14.560 beautiful example for you of love, and you see what 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:17.600 it takes to make a relationship work, why the hell 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:20.840 are you chasing after Victoria. She has not embodied any 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:22.960 of the qualities that you say that you want in 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:24.520 a wife, And I think that is what is so 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:27.480 frustrating to watch. What do you want? Do you want 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:29.360 a relationship? Do you want to chase? Do you want 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:32.200 a girlfriend? Or do you want somebody who's for forever? 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:34.520 And that's what we've been asking for weeks now. I 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:36.200 feel like every week I'm like, what do you want, Peter, 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:42.280 what do you want? And and I feel like in 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:44.840 the past it was I was questioning him because he 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.280 seems so wishywashy, you know, did he want to keep 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:49.560 a layer around? Did he believe Victoria Pee? Like all 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:53.240 these other things that leading up to it seemed big. 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:55.640 But now that we have this elephant in the room, 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.280 this seems huge, and it's yeah, you're still questioned, like 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:00.640 what do you want? At this point, this is endgame, 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:02.400 like you are going into the fantasy suits. You only 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.040 have two weeks left basically after this, Like you have 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:08.000 a huge decision to make, so you've got to figure 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:11.880 it out. You know. What's crazy. We've been talking about 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:14.120 and we I mean, I guess we've kind of talked 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:15.800 about Peter a little bit on the podcast too, but 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:19.400 we've been talking about these women and how you know, 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:22.400 they're just a lot and they're so dramatic, But we 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:25.240 really have to start talking about Peter and his decision making. 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:29.240 At this point, we've touched on it, but now Peter 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:32.320 is a bit of the problem. Victoria f shouldn't be 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:36.360 here and maybe some others as well, but I'm just 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:38.680 gonna focus on her at the moment, because she's the 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:42.120 problematic one at this point. I don't know if Peter 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:44.760 knows what he wants out of a relationship, which is 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:47.960 so sad because this beginning of this season, we're like, 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:51.680 Peter's gonna find love. He's ready for it, he deserves it. 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:54.800 This is what's missing in his life. But maybe he's 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:57.600 been single for a reason at this point of his 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:00.680 life this far, because he just doesn't know what he 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:03.440 wants well. And I think back to his relationship with 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:07.320 Hannah Hannah b because that's where obviously we first saw 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:10.080 him on her season and he felt so hard for her. 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:14.720 But Hannah Hannah said it like it was she would 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:17.240 call people out when she needed to, she knew what 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:20.240 she wanted. Well, obviously that didn't work out, but it 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:22.359 felt like she was much more assertive and I'm not 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:25.280 getting that with this group right now. And again, like 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:28.480 I'm confused of do you want someone that's more independent 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:30.639 and strong willed like that, or do you want somebody 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:32.480 that you can kind of take care of and be 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:36.240 the savior for. And Yeah, I don't think he truly knows. 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:38.720 I think he has said. What he has said is 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:42.600 that he wants somebody to love him exactly how much 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:44.440 love he put out for example with Aunt Hannah b 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:46.320 you know what I mean. And it's just it just 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:50.040 seems like this woman isn't ready Victoria Fuller, I'm talking 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:53.359 about it. She's not ready to pour out there those feelings, 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:54.800 Like I don't know if it's something to happen or 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:57.480 a past that she's quote unquote like a runner and 0:17:57.600 --> 0:17:59.879 just doesn't really give you all the answers. But I 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:03.240 think he's just searching for that answer. And I mean, yeah, 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:06.960 I think he could directly ask a little bit better, 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:10.560 like hey, look, you know this is what's told to me. 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:13.560 This is where you actually just give me a quick 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:16.280 little explanation. You tell me how much you're in love 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:18.440 with me, and you know, maybe we can move on, 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:21.400 you know, because what we have I feel is good. 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:24.240 But I guess like it's just like I don't know 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:26.680 if he's asking the right questions that and like, uh, 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:29.080 you know how she's a runner and he preaches like 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:32.800 he wants family and all that loyalty and it's like 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:35.280 do you want a wife when something gets tough and 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:40.280 just yeah, well when she said that in the conversation, 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:41.920 he's like, if it's like this, now, what is it 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:44.000 going to be like when we're married? And he's already 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:46.400 questioning it, and I think he I think, truly, deep 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:52.080 down Peter knows that her relationship with him is not right. Yeah, 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:55.080 I think he knows. I think it's just making that 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:57.800 a sort of decision making and standing by it that 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:02.320 he's struggling with. I think he's just really nice. And 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:05.200 you know what, I'm starting to realize, Hannah Bee would 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:08.879 have run all over him, forward, backwards, zig zag hop 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:12.920 scotch two, stepped all over him. Yeah, I think I 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:15.879 think that he loves the idea of that type of 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:19.080 woman because that's who his mom is. But when you 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:21.679 look at the four women that are left, they are 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:24.480 not barbed, and I just keep asking myself, what would 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:26.920 Barb do in this situation. That's why I'm thinking there's 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:30.080 no way Victoria F can go on any further, because 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:34.320 if for some reason, in an alternate universe, Peter and 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:36.879 Victoria F ended up together, Barb is going to be 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:39.440 watching this back and be like, hmm, this is not 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:41.840 for my son. There's no way. So I think that 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:46.800 that's why I'm just hoping it won't work. I do 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:50.159 want to say one thing, and I know Victoria FV 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:53.000